BIG FACTS feat. Zillionaire Doe

Dallas’ own Zillionaire Doe pulls up to Big Facts to break down the new wave out of Dallas, his journey to signing with Yo Gotti’s CMG, and how he’s carrying on his father’s legacy while transitioning from the streets to music.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
A line from Revolt Studios and the atl It's time
for Big Facts, Big Bank, Baby.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
J, d J Scream and Zillionaire Though is here? Oh big?
What's up? What's up? What's up? Everything good?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Chilling man Bliss? How is life since the last time
we see you? Know, last time we seen you, you was
putting a lot of manifestation out there about where he
was trying to go.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
And now see like you a lot closer.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
I feel and you feel amazing, bro bless, grateful and
super super appreciative.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
So so what's the difference, because I know, like when
we start, what was that like two years ago?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
That was a year a little over yere a little over.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Like a year ago.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
That's when you guys were kind of first explaining to
us and presenting to the world the whole New Dallas movie.

Speaker 6 (01:12):
What's the difference in the New Dallas movement from then
to now?

Speaker 7 (01:16):
I mean from there and now, just like we.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
At that time, I was it was kind of really
just storting, you know what I'm saying. We were just
kind of starting. So now we didn't put in a
lot more work, cover a lot more ground.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Because I see a mirror even got his own, like
his own.

Speaker 7 (01:32):
It's going on for for hour us. You know what
I'm saying. It's a bunch of it's probably about something
eight of us. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and
it's going up for everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's all right.

Speaker 8 (01:42):
Moving around and like experience in different situations, like how
does the shift that your mindset, like not having to
be in the hood or in Dallas so much and
see it more of woman.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Like I tell you, I'm blissing. I'm grateful, I'm appreciative,
you know what I'm saying. Because I got friends, and
I got friends, and I got periods. They're stilled there,
you know what I'm saying. They're still going through what
I was saying that I was you know what I'm saying,
And it's like ship, I just try to like cheershre today.
You know what I'm saying, because I could be any work,
you know what I'm saying, doing anything. You know what
I'm saying. I'm here with y'all doing interview right now.

(02:10):
Like I said, I still got periods and I still
got friends. It is still in the hood and still
going through those struke.

Speaker 8 (02:15):
You balance that though, like because you gotta stay focused
and you gotta protect your energy, but you don't want
to just.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I mean, it's it's like it's like it's like that
everybody understand you know what I'm saying. It ain't really
It's just like ship. You know, Ship don't don't working.
You know what I'm saying. They proud and they heapy
for me.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I understand you know what I'm saying, and I hoigh
ert them when I can and ship, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
They happy for those though.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
They they'll be disappointing you if you understand.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
It exactly for Show.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
You got it exactly exactly, I'll be I'll be a fool.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
And they share they understand for show for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:49):
So what's some of the biggest circumstances of obstacles. Now
as you say, as the fan raises, you know what
I'm saying, everybodyaire Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Everybody they have his name is Zill.

Speaker 8 (03:00):
Yeah right, I'll show us some cash. Sitting your phone
out the blue.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You know what I say?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
You know, bro, Like I gotta say, Man, I feel like, bro,
see in life, I found my purpose in life early.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
You know what I'm saying. I feel like my purpose
in life is to help Uthers. You know what I'm saying.
So I like God put me in this position. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
So it's like, uh, I mean, anytime somebody come and
need anything, you know what I'm saying, I send it.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
You know what I'm saying heavily. You know what I'm saying.
I say, I found my purpose, my purpose just to
help Uthers. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
So I feel good. You know what I'm saying. When
someone called me, no matter what I'm you know what
I'm saying, no matter what it is. You know what
I'm saying, Like like got you know what I'm saying.
So it ain't really like like you say, Uh be real.

Speaker 8 (03:42):
Let me just say this real quick but make sure
you're protected yourself, no doubt you talked me about like that.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Please, but I want to I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta stop like this conversation and like just say this.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Okay. So last night we were in Magic, right, so
we were.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Getting ready to leave and like walk out of the door.
But his buddy had ordered some food, so, you know,
like normally niggas would have been like, okay, you know,
like we're finna be in a car, you know what
I'm saying, some shit like that, Like he froze the
whole shit, the whole situation. And we were waiting on
his friend's food and it come to find out the
waitress didn't put the food in or you know what

(04:17):
I'm saying, whatever, whatever, So his buddy was like, you know,
trying to figure out. His buddy was like, nah, I
don't want nothing because he ain't want to like hold
everybody up or whatever. But he was like, nah, like
if you want some food, like get some food, like
be chilling, Like we gonna wait till you get your
food because you wanted food, like, and most niggas would
have been like, man, come on, let's go, let's get
out of here da da d whatever, whatever. But he

(04:38):
wanted to make sure that like his people were straight
and that that really, like that really did a lot
for me last night because most niggas would have been
cognizant to take the time out to make sure that
their buddy that wanted food got food because the waitress
didn't put in the food because they were ready to.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Go type shit. So that like I had to.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Yeah, like I had that, Like I had to, I
had to speak on that because that's like that's a
big thing, like because most niggas wouldn't have done that,
like for real, like and that was that was nice
to me.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
That was dope.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Like that the thing is like, uh like my my,
my people that I got around, Like it's like, uh,
I got number like good people around, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
So like if that was me, he would have did
the same thing.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
So it's like I'm it's like, ship, I found they
should be at our love and lord, you know what
I'm saying, if you would have did the same thing
for me, So Broke hounk Ship, we gotta sit and
wait what it is?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the most surprising part about this
ship to you.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Like just like being in this moment.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I mean it's like i'd be I'd be surprised every day, bro,
because it's like, when I got started, you know what
I'm saying, expected for this ship to even get this
for at all, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So it's like, y'all look like y'all it's like.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Ship, I don't know, but I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I didn't Like when I first started this shot, I
really didn't believe in seeing I didn't believe you know
what I'm saying, everybody else seeing it, but me personally,
I didn't, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
every day I'm amazing, I just be like, damn, this
shit don't be far. I don't feel real, like you're
living inside your dream exactly. Ain't like sometimes it was
in New York the other day, I'm like, my niggah
billboard think uh his Albam Cole came up on a

(06:13):
billboard or that shit felt like a dream in the
middle of Times square hundred deep. I'm like, man, this
shit feels like fake, like wow, wow, chills, wow chills.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
That she was amazing, and she was like it should
be crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Like who was the first person like said your name
to make you like, damn this nigga know me?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know what I'm saying. As nigga that.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Would come up, man, bro, I was uh he fulled
me at one time. We uh, I pull up, fucking
my nigga. You know what I'm saying. He's so having
to be at the studio a future you know what
I'm saying. We outside chill in front of the studio
in the midst of that. You know what I'm saying,
futures have to pull up. You know what I'm saying.
Nigga walk in the studio. You know what I'm saying.
He walked right past us walking in the studio. About

(06:53):
fifteen minutes later and they come back outside, he walked
straight up on. I'm like, damn, z you know you've
been going crazy in the streets and it fucked me up,
blew my mind, fucking me up. You've been listening to
so so how do you remain just humble and grateful?
I mean, it's like, I'm just a humble person already,

(07:14):
you know what I'm saying. So it ain't really It's
just it's just I'm just humble I'm already humble.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Would you say the only thing changes the money? Legit
now for sure?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, hey yeah yeah y.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
Facts facts.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
But I think I think, I think the tree that
y'all sitting is making a lot of young niggas feel like, oh, nah, man,
we can get off the bush and.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Get some money exactly. That was.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
That was my whole goal and my whole purpose of
even getting into the music, you know what I'm saying.
Before I even started, that was kind of like my
goal and kind of I kind of wanted to like
change the world in a way, you know what I'm saying.
I grew around older people like you know what I'm saying.
You know, they instilled certain shit in to me, this type.
I listened to a certain type of music, and I
was growing and raised a certain way, you know what

(07:58):
I'm saying. So when I got into the game, the
game was kind on this type of time. But I'm like, now,
I kind of want to change the game, and I
also change the world in a way, you know what
I'm saying. And it's kind of like I see it
kind of working a little bit too.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
It is.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, you feel like you got an old soul
basically for sure, for sure like you bringing you bring
to the game with the O g's and still most
definitely most differently, so what part of Dallas you're from?
South Dellas, Okay, South Della Like, like who would we
be familiar with life from now?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
I don't know if y'all know, did sort of like
Big Took, Big Took, Yeah yeah, big yeah, Big tooktide
side the really uh, that's probably all that y'all might
be for that's probably person might be familiar.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Who the next nigga coming out of that we might
not know.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
About it out of Dallas. There's a bunch of that coming.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
My nigga head hunt or mirror my niggas is the
wizard uh my age and kind of hear me the
chum Uh. It's it's a let me see nigga, hear
me the chum my brother, hard headed, melli bro. It's
the whole movement right now. Like it's it's big my nigga,
huss me in keys. It's a bunch of niggas coming out.

(09:07):
It's even smore niggas that ain't even uh, they don't
really be running with us, but they in the city.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
They doing.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
They be seeing them. You know what I'm saying. They
like niggaamet u t TM two D. You know what
I'm saying. He just got in a rap scene, but
I saluted him. I like what he got going. Other
Nigga namet FtF Young. I was seeing him on Instagram
and shit, I bumped into the up there at the
gas station, like what he got going to salute to
Lucian boy.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So yeah, it's like do you see like you met,
like the ship that y'all doing, making other niggas kind
of feel laying to do that other.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Sh like yeah, because it's like you gotta understand, like
you know, nigga seen nigga seeing the work we put in,
niggas seen when we started.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'm saying, So it's kind of like shits. It's inspirational,
motivational showing nigga. Shit, we were just older, We were
just doing what y'all doing.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
You know what I'm saying. They seeing us over there.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
You know what I'm saying, They seeing this shit going
on them, So it's like it's motivational letting you know
it's possible, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
Yeah, give a niggas helpe showing him as possible.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
So what are some what are some other things like
that you have going on outside of the music that
would make other niggas feel comfortable to be entrepreneurs like
and understand that they don't have to just be rappers
type shit.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean, I'll be trying to Yeah, see, i'd be see,
first of all, before before I'm a rapper, I'm an
entrepreneur first. You know what I'm saying. I was an
entrepreneur for anything. You know what I'm saying. I start
the music, it is really just another business for me,
you know what I'm saying. Right because I'm an entrepreneur
for anything. It just so happened the music happened to work,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like, shit, Uh,

(10:35):
I'll be trying to explain to people out the time,
you know what I'm saying. It's like even within the
music business, so many different positions and roles that you
can play. Just learning the music business and make even
you can make even more money than being an extual order,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like, uh, I'll
be trying to explain to people sometimes, Like you know,
I always got to be a rapper, you know what
I'm saying, and just learned because most rappers don't even

(10:56):
know the actual business. Bro, if you actually know the business,
you know what I'm saying, you can generate more profits
than actual orders.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
You know what I'm saying. Because a lot of times
artiers don't even know the business. You know what I'm saying.
So it's like, uh uh are you seeing though? Like
it ain't?

Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know, it's plenty of It's plenty of roles that
you can play within the music business, you know what
I'm saying, Like just as much money, if not more,
you know what I'm saying. But uh, like me, I
ain't bess I said, I'm an entrepreneur for anything, I
bensed my money's all type of shit, you know what
I'm saying. Uh, before I even start rapping, I missed
my money's dogs trucks, you know what I'm saying. Closing lines, Uh,

(11:33):
I'm just I'm just I'm just a risk taker, you
know what I'm saying. An entrepreneur Like work or not,
she's still you know what I'm saying. They keep trying.
She's like I tried to music, she had no work.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
You think you you born like that or how did
that was? What was that? How was it instilled in? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Bro, my mama is a hustler of infamous US. My
dad's an infamous US.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
My big brother influence us. You know what I'm saying.
And it's like I'm right. I've seen everything firsthand. You
know what I'm saying. And my mama, husband and my daddy.
It's really in me.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I actually seen it though, like it was like shit nigga.
Nigga is born born with this shit. Yeah yeah, what's
some ship that you?

Speaker 7 (12:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
You got any regrets?

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I don't lie, bro, Like now I'll be looking back
on life and ship, like I'm saying, Nigga, you don't
regret none.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
You know what I'm saying. What God put a nigga
through whatever. You know what I'm saying, mistakes and Nigga
made in life or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
It's like it is what it is, like this shit
our guy's playing.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
You know what I'm saying. Nigga live and learn, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Keep pushing so there's nothing that you wish that you
could have done differently.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Man.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Only thing I wish bro is I started rapping earlier
was just starting for sure. I wish I started rapping early.
But like I say, it's our guy's playing. So shit,
it happened. Everything happened on gods tithing.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
You think you could start rapping earlier that had the
same mindset as you gotta knowing?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Uh, you know, I've been here, I was, I've been
always had the same mindset regarding you know what I'm saying.
But I just wish I would have started rapping early.
So all the information, all the things, you know what
I'm saying. Nigga know I would already knew it early,
you know what I'm saying. You know, Nigga would have
been falling where he was now. But like I say,
it's how God's playing, So it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Fact.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
So what was it that like actually got you started rapping?
Because I was reading somewhere that you started rapping after
the death of one of your friends.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:13):
So what happened with that?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
So boomb lem me big track a little bit. I
was so the zena ricause my pop start this day
back to the nineties.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
So I've been around music my whole life. You know
what I'm saying, Like I had so I grew up
in studio in it.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
I'm going, I'm a little nigga going to the shows,
my daddy, my big brother rap. You know what I'm saying.
And shit, I've been around music my whole life, but
it was nothing that I never wanted to do. You
know what I'm saying. Fast forward like twenty twenty two,
so uh October, my nigga, Uh, I was in La
on time. You know what I'm saying. My niggas out
there he rapped. He hear me like, pull up on

(13:51):
me some my video. Shoot this is and it I'm
saying I'm doing I'm doing. I happened to not pull
up on him. I missed, you know what I'm saying.
But before that, my big brother, me and my big
brother I placed some business. He big and me every
day like and you need to rap, I'm selling You're
gonna blow up over now. You're gonna be old nice
to Cis like we seen out. He begged me like
get on his knees like he.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Saw he saw this before you did.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, he saw it before me. You know what I'm saying.
This is my big brother. Like he he he seen
me since I was born. He instilled everything give me
and he showed me everything to how to tie my
shoe perfect. You know what I'm saying. He showed me
to shoot the basketball and everything. It's my big brother.
And by the time I'm eighteen, see what I'm saying, eighteen,
he's seen the start them in me and on the
rap shit.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
So he begging me to do it, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
But like I say, one until my nigga died, and
in like September twenty twenty two, I'm in the airport.
He I'm walking through the airports in La. Walking through
the airport. He's like, damn brother. Uh, I'm walking through
the airport. I heard somebody comment, I ain't little dough.
You know what I'm saying. Somebody comic little dog. Gotta
be somebody from the neighborhood, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm gonna turn around as my nigga. You know
what I'm saying, Like, damn brother, why he ain't put

(14:49):
up on me? This is and now I'm like, man,
I was big to him and being there. You know
what I'm saying, this is and then like, I'm gonna
connect you with my manager. Was with his manager at
the time at airport. I'm like, you need to start
rapping this and that. I'm like, man, whatever, you know
what I'm saying, shook his hand, walked off like love, Yeah, look,
you know what I'm saying, walked out, went to my terminal.
Next day, he DM me, you need to rap. You
know what I'm saying, youre gonna blow up me. You're
gonna do a tape bro until you need to rap.

(15:10):
You're gonna blow up this is and it. I'm like, bit,
you know what I'm saying. This isn't it. I'm still
just blowing them. I'm like just seeing bit, I ain't
really fin the rap though, I'm saying. Two days after that,
my nigga ended up passing away.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
You know what I'm saying. I've been doing bro since
I was four five years old.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
You know what I'm saying. Broke could have tell me
this shit fifteen years ago. You know what I'm saying.
So he ended up dying two days after he takes me.
So I took it as like this man, I took
it as like a sign from God, and I said,
I'm like, damn, Bro, just I had just seen Bro
just like crack, he just died.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
I don't know where I'm like, damn. What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I just wanted to kind of like leave a legacy
and impact on earth, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
So like wrapping, it's kind of like you paying homage
to him.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
For show, paying homage to him.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
And also know what I'm saying, Like I told you
my big brother beig me to wrap my dad. He
started this in the nineteen nineties. Yea, in the nineties.
This the music shit is my dad dream, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like I'm paying homage to
my dad being my whole family. My dad still here, y,
my dad. My dad still here for show. Yeah, I'll
be we take him on show doing shows.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Ship.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
He super happy, like this ship he didn't want to do, Like, hey,
get to see that.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Ship for it's still me doing it. Yeah, me with
the mic is me me right now?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm being how much in my pops I'm playing how much?
Really my whole family, you know what I'm saying because
my whole family is all this they rapping ship, my
big brother.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
So I'm paying how much to everybody?

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Who?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Who? Who is your inspiration? Like musical inspiration coming up?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
I mean I mean inspired her, nigga inspired, you know,
different eras, inspired by a lot of different people like
my nigga, a super super and inspired by my nigga. Uh,
my nigga got a Detroit nigga peas it bro my
big brother for sure.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
We sitting our place a ben in.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
One day, my big brother put this ship on his
nigga talking number cash cash ship, fly ship. I'm on it,
stay there and running up ninety six, just grinding this
type of ship.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Nigga. You know what I'm saying that nigga.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
You know, I'm probably about eighteen, just probably about seventeen eighteen,
just integrated, graduate and be rerable to put me on
this ship. And I was on this ship, ran up
so much money, this ship for real, real man ship,
real salute my nigga.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Pee y'all did something it.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, we got one in. We got one in for
show here. We got one in and it just ain't dropped.
But he just hear me the other day, like he
wanted to put me on his tape. You gonna send
me some ship, get on in for show, bro, big
inspiration and ship niggaspired by a lot of different people.
Jesus got it. You know what I'm saying. Futures little babies. Uh,
they can go on and on all the hustle, all
the hustlers.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, but it ain't gonna lie like when I first like.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh, I can't forget my nigga nip too A big,
big inspiration. Yeah, your money, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
When when we first met y'all and I first started
like listening to your stuff. Yeah, you kind of put
me in the mind of little Kekey from Houston.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
Okay, okay for show for show for show.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Who else they could pay you to? Like you remind
me like how people be like damn your style of man.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I mean I see a lot of people say nil.
Some peoples like Noil Payroll from Detroit.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Yeah got married.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Yeah they say Payroll.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Neil, say got you, jez You know what I'm saying,
little baby, who.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
You want to work with you and got you to
work with?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Man, I want to get on with all of mog
all the goat ship all the futures, baby motherfucking me?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Uh who else? U? Jesus all the all the street legends,
the name killed that Jesus ship.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
To ya kill Yeah yeah, yeah you kill killed that
bit I met. The first time I heard, I knew
what it was. The drip out the drip I heard that.
I knew what it was.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
They said anything else when I got big.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
So all y'all did, all y'all did that song with
with trapped to them?

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Trap?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, Trap, that's my big brother shot Trap. I
can't get trapped. That's my big brother. Like that nigga there,
I was a little nigga. Like I say, my daddy
had to stand there at the half. You know what
I'm saying, Trap, pull up for my big brother. He
you know what I'm saying. When he was nigga, his hottage.
You know what I'm saying, in his prime nigga, big
bro colin Nigga. He pulling up nigga video, shoot nigga whatever.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
So it's it's a little trapped feel.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
It's like my big brother never broke Calmon, nigga, whatever
you need done, I'm coming through for him, just love
for showing for show for shure.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
How the gotty play come together?

Speaker 8 (19:31):
How you think like you got on the radar and
the whole situation came together.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Uh, I mean I can't. I'm not exactly sure, but
I know my nigga ain't know Dame had just reached
that to me. Uh, I had, Bro. It's crazy cause
I'm seeing got It, like I probably sent got It
like two messages sent to my ship. I'm like, it's
the hoighest in the streets. Yeah, before like this the
highest in the streets. You know what I'm saying, This,

(19:55):
this and that. You know what I'm saying. And uh,
that was like in the top of like April twenty
twenty three.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Fast forward like December twenty twenty three. I dropped this
one video call Trap Store and shit, uh dropped the
bitch and know and my nigga, Damn had reached that
to me.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
It went from there when he reached out. Did you
think like, oh, Nigga, somebody playing or.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
Here y'all thinking this shit. I'm thinking that shit fake?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
You know what I'm saying. I literally, Bro, send him
My place of betis Nigga. Me and the bros. We
in that bitch are chilling. I just get a DM
I nowhere. I'm like, I'm looking at Nigga, pay A
and O. I see him just like, I'm like, man,
this shit fake shit.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
You know what I'm saying, Like sending.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
A nigga my number. He caught me like this and
that this is that I'm saying. Nigga.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Uh like YO were fucking with you know what I'm saying.
I sent him some He like, send me some unreleased music.
It's when I know it was real. Simple to unreleased music.
Boom nigga. Next day, the next day was Christmas Eve.
He texts me on December twenty third. Next day was
Christmas Eve, December twenty fourth. I mean the middle of
the mind shopping what I'm saying for my nieces and
my little sister ship before Christmas, missing me shopping. I

(21:04):
get a missage from Yo. Got him reciting one of
my lyrics that I had sent to him from the
from the unreleased music. I know it really yeah, I
know I knew it was real then.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
He was real then, But I think they said gott
in him opened up office down yall way right, supposed
he was supposed to on. They're still working on it now, Okay, Yeah,
there's a lot of talent down the lot, bro, So
you sign an artist yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for Shure eventually,
uh we were sent the work for show.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah it works for show.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
You're gonna you're gonna use your brain your dad brands.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah that's dope.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
That's dope, bro. Yeah yeah, does it feel good?

Speaker 8 (21:44):
It's inspider hood Like you know what I'm saying, that
was that was looking that she was the hood hope.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Now for sure, that was the whole you know what
I'm saying goal And you know what I'm saying, hustle
and motivating inspire from the start.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
So here y'all feel I feel amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's a different for hustlers though.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
See I'm finna ask you a question, like what's the
ups and downs of the music ship? But niggas already
went through the hustle down being an entrepreneural hustler.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
So this ship is like a cake.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Now, this is like taking care of it from a baby.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
This ship like bro, it's like you know what I'm saying,
sit niggas do for prophecis like different.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
You know what I'm saying. So this ship here, like
niggas ship don't even feel real.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
The ship the niggas cry about.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Nigga be like what I mean, I don't see how
niggas get in position what I'm saying and want to
jeopardize this ship, bro, because.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's like real ship.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Ship to this ship while you want, I'm doing whatever
I can to make sure nigga ship don't chrumbled. I
ain't trying to make no mistakes period.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Be around niggas who make a mistakes.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Man, I don't want to be around none of this ship. Nigga.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
I'm wailing Atlanta, Nigga doing a big fake interviews. Big
a man, hey man man, nigg bro broke the generation curse.
Now I've seen people now, my mom and my daddy
went jail, Fizz, my big brother Fizz. Right now, I'm saying, Nigga,
I haven't seen people tried and it don't work. You know,
I say, Nigga finally get the opportunity, God blessed nigg

(23:00):
Niggas can't suck.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Up it going for this ship. You'll be a damn
full damn like making it to the league and then stuff,
I understand why I'm doing that. Ship crazy crazy nigga, Man,
do you think do you think it's the people that
really don't come from that this stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Exactly, bro, because it's like they don't come from it,
so it's like they ain't seen the other side. So
they trying to the fascinating fascinated. You know what I'm saying,
And nigga, I didn't say. It's like you ain't seen
the other side, so you're trying to give it what's cool,
but you don't know what's cool.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Is this right here being on his couch on the
interview with.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Jay, That's cool, cool, cool, This is gonna keep you
here back big, thank.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Thank God, oh money.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
And then the world so fucked up.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Man. It's like one fall move bro, your ass Panela
Pears shoes. You should have got them, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Man.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Then as soon as you're gone, man, you out of sight,
out of mind.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Forgot about you.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Man, They get about you while you.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
Goes on.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
God, bro make a post.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
Nigga.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
People partying right back like a ship happened. It's right
at the club and you got Friday at twelve motherfucker
PM Nigga, they party, Nigga le PM to night Nigga
at the motherfucker club, like knowing heaven.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
It didn't happen. This ship crazy man, when you think,
how are you? I'm twenty four, okay, dawn off and.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That when you think this ship ship, this ship was
already shipp when you got you walked into the ship.
You walked in ship coming up though. What's some ship
you saw that you said? I never do that, man.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
It's a lot of ship I be saying, like, nigga
just be what I'm saying. Nigga get getting God put
in a position and niggas just do dumb ship bro,
Like you know what I'm saying, Fumber fumble the ball
like a lot of niggas just saying I ain't on it. Nigga,
gotta keep this ship going, nigger do this ship the
right way, you know what I'm saying. And she's a
lot of that goofy ship lamps niggagin with this ship.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Bro, what's some advice Your mom, your big brother, your
dad probably told you back then that you couldn't really
get that you get the whole harder.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
It's a lot of shit, bro, like my T Jones
and my T Jones. I just seen my mama texts
other day. Like I said, when I was young, broy
my T Jones on my ad, my mama beat my ad.
Nigga purple.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
I say, but now nigga older like nigga understands nigga
needed real tough love. You know what I'm saying. Disciplined.
You know what I'm saying. T Jones raising nigger correct
man is yes, ma'am and no ma'am. Yes, sir, no sir.
You know what I'm saying. And nigga T Jones don't
play this ship. You know what I'm saying. But I'm
glad she was like that because like I got you
know what I'm saying, friends, like I even got a

(25:49):
step brother. You know what I'm saying that we we
we kind of raised in the same household. But you
know what I'm saying, it's not my T Jones son,
So it's only so much she could do.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
You know what I'm saying. He ain't really get the same.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
This one is me. You know what I'm saying. I
went this he went these way. You know what I'm saying,
So I appreciate the discipline. You know what I'm saying,
teach as women.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Let you know, it's consequence show for show, I should
I used to wake me up and my ass for
some ship I might do that day, bulls ship, I
might be tied when you go to school, and so
I'm gonna whoop your ass in the morning.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
For sure, for nothing, for sure, Like this is a base.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah yeah, but it just lets you know, definitely you get.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Your ass spank. But that same ship go along with the.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Streets exactly anything. You know what I'm saying, it's fire,
you're hot, don't teach it. Don't touch his fire. That
ship hot, touch his fires, don't get burnt.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
It's a spanking ship. All go back.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I wonder why did they say that, Like now, people
parents don't supposed to be able to spank their kids.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
If I have kids right now, bro, I love I
love my kids. But the same time, I got a discipline.
You know I know that I can't.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
I'm teaching my kids right, I ain't gonna none of
that bullshit. And you know whooping what it.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Is they get they can get your jail for this ship.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
What it was, it was the parents like I don't know,
drunk some other ones that take everything out of they
the real kid.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
For the whole culture. But I feel like the people
that are.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Trying to put those initiatives in place are the people
that didn't have a well rounded household for sure.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
Because if you lived.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
In a house where you got your ass beat, but
you were also fed properly, you had clothes, you know
what I'm saying, You had love, You had all the
rest of the ship to go with that ass whooping
and even that ass whooping out, like you wouldn't understand.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Like that's a part of the that's a part of
the pie. That's a piece of the pie. Like you
need that because if you leave that part out, then
like you're gonna be missing something different.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Get with me now, whoop because I love you dah
for real.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
So what would you tell your younger self, like when
you first jumped out the port, what would you tell
your younger self?

Speaker 7 (28:07):
Man? Uh, I don't know, but I feel like, uh.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
I was already like bro, when I jump off the porch,
I'm already short, I'm cold, Like I told you I
was already nigga groown and you know what I'm saying,
So it ain't really much I could niggas already niggas
already cold. I just keep going, they keep going, you
know what I'm saying, Keep going, you know what I'm saying.
But like I bro I tell myself because I didn't
believe in myself as much, you know, jumping off the porch,
getting into the music. Beingun't believe in myself. You know

(28:35):
what I'm saying, I probably tell myself that you can
do it. You know what I'm saying. It's possible, You're
gonna be something I'm saying. At first, I'm like, I
didn't really, I didn't really have the confidence. I'm like,
believe when we met.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Y all in Dallas, you made us believers back then.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I really still.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Alady I had the year before we even got it,
before Staring Rapp, you know what I'm saying. So that
wasn't there wasn't enough to give you up. There wasn't
no confident on the rap ship.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Hey, let me let me ask you something. What's the
the most like.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Being in the rap game and being like from before
you was in the rap game, was on the outside
looking at exactly like on the inside looking out like
what's the most Let me see what I'm trying to say.
Thing that you like, it don't go like that like
you thought it went. You know, when you're getting some ship,
you think you go like that, but then you get
in like, nah, you don't go like that.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
So like me being me, I'm like, super loving, super genuine.
You know what I'm saying. Nigga, anybody come around, they
got to treat like family. You know what I'm saying.
Getting into the music business. You know what I'm saying,
Nigga meet niggas. You know what I'm saying. Once I
meet somebody, it's like, I'm like, it's like a bun
like family. You know what I'm saying. That's how I

(29:58):
I think. You know what I'm saying, because it's just
how I was raised. You know what I'm saying, Nigga,
raise I love shit. You know what I'm saying. So
nigga getting to the ship on the love shit. But
you know what I'm saying, the music business, it ain't
ain't it ain't really like it. You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's you know, but it's like shit, nigga. Uh, Nigga,
learn it. You know what I'm saying. It's kind of
like Nigga gotta protect his energy, protect his love, and
protect because I.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Know my heart.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
You know what I'm saying. Nigg got a big heart.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
So nigga getting into the business, I'm thinking it's like shit,
I'm knowing it. Ain't just liked it, but I'm i
ain't thinking it be as bad as it is, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
So I kind of got it. I'm to the point
now where I kind of like.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
I don't fuck on my niggas. You know what I'm saying,
fuck with my nigga. You know what I'm saying, because
I ain't trying to get around it. A lot of
niggas be weird.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't with the weird shit.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
I'm I'm on a genuine teo with this shit. You
know what I'm saying. I ain't on know, I ain't
compete with nobody. Nigga. I walk in and your your
shoes look good. I like your shoes. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Get an accomplishment and saying I ain't on the Hey,
you ain't with all the bullshit. So now I gotta
protect my energy, protect my love, and protect who I
even let it around.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
You know what I'm saying, is it is?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
It?

Speaker 8 (30:57):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Have you ran into?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Like you know how you be listen some motherfucker music
then you meet him, be like this ain't who I
was listening to.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know what I'm saying, It'd be like that, for sure.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'm thinking, like when I mean this dude, he finna
be the nigga, because you know, when you listen to
somebody the music, or watch somebody on TV, or watch
us on Big Face, you already drawing your mind like
how this person would be you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
But when you meet him, like oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
But sometimes you kind of heard through the music on
who you're kind of dealing with a little bit.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
But it'd be like this sometimes too.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
For sure, it be like how you deal with that?

Speaker 7 (31:31):
I mean, it's just like ship, you know, like, uh,
bro the thing about it? Bro, like me, bro, just
be you bro. You know what I'm saying, Like you
ain't being used to me? That's lame.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You know what I'm saying, so you training some in
your music and you ain't who you is, you know
what I'm saying in real life, Nigga kind of like
I ain't. I don't really feel you know what I'm saying,
because it's like ship. That to me, that's slang.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
But you blessed, you blessed, you blessed. It already already
have had you before you got in the music. So
you're potting to pass away your big brother. Everybody will
tell you rap. They were telling you to rap because
you already had that.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
So bro, just be you. You're gonna blow up.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Exactly, a lot of these niggas had to be somebody
else to blow up, and then they stuck in character.
So when they get in characters when they music, they
gotta be that way when the cameras on, and then
they go back to being themself. And we be looking
like that nigga who but that's who he is, their character.
We fell in love with the character.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
We talked about this ship every time.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's true, But I don't.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Take it no type of way because I be looking
at it like it's entertainment.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
I mean feeling I feel away because I feel like
I've been bamboozled.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't. I feel like you meet somebody that's rare.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's when you champion that rare person like you champion that.
That's what you do, like you kill that hurt my feelings,
bro urt some of that ship that some rappers. You
gotta think about it. Some of that ship can't be real,
no way. You know it can't be real. I know that.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
But I'm talking about the niggas that make me feel
like it's real.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
That ship hurts. Man, I don't give a That's an artist.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Man, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's an artist. Some niggas just wrapping their life and
some niggas are artists. You're entrepreneur first or anything.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
You see what I'm saying. That's the difference.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm doing this sh because it's another way of another
stream of income. Like I'm not a podcaster. It's just a.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Straight up, straight up you know what I'm saying. You
got niggas that are potcaster and get up when the
mic go out.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
There be some straight bitches. Yeah yeah, we just turned
the mic on to be us. We ain't got no damn.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
We asked a regular questions. You know what I'm saying ship.
I already want to add we was we was all
camera so so so regular ship. It's entertainment. How you're
looking at the phone or a TV screen? Us still up.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yard right this ship entertainment.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
Bro entertainment, business, entertainment industry.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
If you move out your city, what's your idea city
will move to? Man?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Probably like uh Miami's son. You know what I'm saying.
I like, I like, I like the palm trees and
the water and ship building.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
Ship. I probably moved to Miami.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
What city you get the most love? And what's the
city that sold you the first love outside of your city?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Birmingham, Birmingham, Olabama. Show Nigga out of love. You know
what I'm saying. Houston. You know what I'm saying, Nigger
get little like I love down love down there everywhere.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Getting in the Carolina money for show for show.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Carolina, for show love Timo.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
We might we might for shure Nigga Carolina for a
lot of money and a lot of biers of Carolina.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
They like to hustle for Show Carolina for sure.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
So let me ask you, just like on a on
a personal level, like outside of the music outside of
the entrepreneurship, outside of the hustling whatever, whatever. What are
some things that you like enjoy doing or that you
like to do, like in your spare time and when
you have free time away from work.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
So like, uh, going to the gym. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I wake up.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
I try to wake up every more and I'll not
be either. Go to the gym.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
You know what I'm saying. It's like it's like a therapy.
You know what I'm saying, me find ballets. You know
what I'm saying, because be so much going to the
nigga mind, I'm seeing the gym kind of like uh released, yeah, yeah,
Like it's like ballet you know what I'm saying, mentally, spiritually, physically, physically,
just hit me.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Part of meditation. The gym is a part of military.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Yeah, yeah, hear me feel better? You know what I'm saying.
I like U taking vacations too, you know what I'm saying,
going to the vacation.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yeah, I've been seeing you.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
I like them Islands and ship Black yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
For Shure for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah yeah yeah, So who behind them cameeron teen shuowing
you know how nigga.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Right there. You know it's about like you know how
need on trips. It might have somebody will them. Yeah,
you ever have somebody with you? You gotta girl.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yeah for shure, I got somebody with I can't show
you all up.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
What's the biggest misconception of ze? And that though like
where they got you fucked up at? They think this
way about you, But that ain't me.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I mean, uh, I don't know, Like I see, like
when we started, it wasn't as much it was likely.
It's been like, uh.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
A lot of like hatred. I don't know for what reason.
You know what I'm saying. It's like we're just trying to.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Niggas, like we're just trying to show the world that
it's possible, you know what I'm saying, and just motivating
inspired the world just you know what I'm saying, show
the word some different ship, you know what I'm saying.
But I guess some people just you know, they just
suck us and just got hatred in their heart to work.
I said, they see a young African American black men,
you know what I'm saying, succeeding and being success in life.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
They see the Jerry, they see the cars and the
clothes and shit, and they kind of get it miscon
screwed like you know. I mean, it's easy because you
don't know a nw You think a nigga just another rapper,
you know what I'm saying. But nigga not another rapper.
You know what I'm saying. Ygga really on some different
type shit. You know what I'm saying. Just seeing nigga
on Instagram. See a niggas got the money, you know
I'm saying, because it's the entertainment being and it got
the entertainer people. So they looking at the nigga got

(37:20):
the money, got the cars, got the clothes, and what
I'm saying, not really knowing nigga really on some on
something or the most type shit, you know what I'm saying.
So it be like, uh, you know nigga nigga posts
are this is a nigga. Uh now we be I
left popping. Somebody might re recording and put it on
TikTok on TikTok. Nigga got mother night, Jerry, this iss
and theg uh or what the crypto?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Where the land?

Speaker 7 (37:41):
You know what I'm saying they ain't showing y'all it,
you know what I'm saying. But Nigga got all of it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
You know, we on all it.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Got nigga plenty of properties, niggas, crypto nigga with all
that shit.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
You know, we own it all.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Serious entrepreneurs, entrepreneur first like this.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
So do you think that like the people that are
coming up with this hatred or whatever are doing it
because they don't have the capacity to be able to
think as far as you guys have been able to think.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean, really, what I think it is.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
You know what I'm saying, like people just be on
us is just you know, like some more rappers, there's
just some more upcoming rep they saying us got the
money to cause the year they bamboozle. They think they're
just throwing us in their boat. They think they just
another old rapper that's just another bamboos just popping it

(38:34):
and they see it. You know what I'm saying, But
we wave ahead, we wave around the cornor are looking
a way around. Substance to your ship, super A lot
of substance, A lot of substance.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
You know I'm saying We're gonna be here for a
long time rap ship just commercial for show for.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Rap bro.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Like my personality, you know what I'm saying, Like my character,
like I wouldn't like beginning, like I'm more like quiet.
You know what I'm saying with the camera shiit niggas
before I start rapping it, I don't even show I
don't even show cads, like I don't showcash on social
media what I'm saying. But I have to understand I'm saying,
it's the entertainment business, you know what I'm saying. So
I had to put my pride aside nigga and entertain

(39:10):
of people if I flash and the stacks of cash,
you know what I'm saying. And it worked exactly. But
that's not really who I. It's not like it's like
against what I stand for, against my religion, you know
what I'm saying. I'm raised against influence in my MoMA.
They don't even do social media all, you know what
I'm saying, So me doing it, it was kind of
like against you know what I'm saying, But it's like shit,
It worked though, so it is what it is, marketing

(39:32):
exactly exactly exactly.

Speaker 8 (39:34):
What's your weakness. So what's the thing that you think
that might get you off a focus a little bit? Like,
what's the one thing to get to you?

Speaker 7 (39:40):
I mean, I mean, I uh a far I as
a rapper and everything. I was an athlete. You know
what I'm saying, Nigga, I played pung or, I played motherfucking.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Me quarter back. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
So up here mentally, I'm mentally strong, bro, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm the type of I'm super dispine,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I'm not really
a person that's really like getting unfocused a side trick.
I'm kind of like I'm on top of it.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
You know what I'm saying. I cass myself drifting.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I'm getting myself because I got the mental toughness and
get myself back on. You know what I'm saying. I
cast myself getting doing too much. It is so I'm
apprecid with it, but I ain't. I ain't really getting
unfocused side tricking.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Ship they said any else when I got big, it's
easy for you to check yourself.

Speaker 7 (40:29):
Easy easy, you know what I'm saying. Easy for me
to check others too.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
My niggas when they ain't doing right, you know what
I'm saying, And they're gonna let you know, and you're
doing you need to get back, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
I've seen you drifting over her, get on your ass,
and you to be doing it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
How you deal with like in tightle minute hate amongst
your crew, like amongst niggas that come up with you
that you love.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
How you deal with me last, my person, my immediate circle.
You know what I'm saying. I really don't go through
that type of shit. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Me and my nigga have been through so much and
it's like ship nigga, nigga, It's like shit, I ain't
got nohing tight of people around me, you know what
I'm saying, And ship there like uh, like my immediate circle,
I ain't no hate, I ain't ain't none of that. Bro,
wou'd have been through our type of ship? You know
what I'm saying, nigga, my nigga's nigga, whatever, my nigga need.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
You know what I'm saying. My people ain't gonna even asks,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
But those still gonna I'm I'm over extend what I'm saying,
whether you need it or not.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
You know what I'm saying, this, this and that. You
know what I'm saying. Niggas like uh and when we
pull up.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
We want so it's like everything I'm doing, it's like
team I look, we got our look apart. You know,
I look be on one A course those nigga even
I'm I'm over extended.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
I'm over extended.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Real thing made me differently? My name though, your name whatever?
Show who the.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
One person in a circle you know, gonna keep it
all the way with you about the music that ain't it?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
This is my nigga, a mini my nigga MENI and
my manager, my brother. You know what I'm saying. He's
my manager now made of my manager. You know what
I'm saying. This is my brother sent three four years old.
I'm saying, Bro, gonna keep it at ou they even
know what it is, it ain't yeah for sure, no bro,
yeah bro, yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
So who's the Who's the one person out of the
crew that's gonna be like the life of the party
and that's gonna keep everybody's spirits up and ship.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
My nigga see me, I'm kind of like I'm like
enlightening it to it. Like nigga where you see those
always like whenever you see me, I'm good, energy positive,
You know what I'm saying. Nigga, If those you, if
I could walk in this room, big fixed podcasts and
my energy out, you gotta be something really wrong because
most I'm always bringing the uplifting, encouraging words, the love

(42:41):
and I'm saying the piece of hap it I'm right
the room with every time I'm saying you damn words
of Christmas for you, I'm saying how my dad was?

Speaker 7 (42:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
I was like I'm always that type of person with
my nigga sept hundred really like the life of the party.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Push yoursel I'm a Leeop Brok. Yeah you had birthday
in yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, July twenty three.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
My brother, Well, what Tonel sign is?

Speaker 7 (43:08):
What is honey?

Speaker 4 (43:09):
His birthday? Like November twelfth? I think so, yeah, November twelve? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Y'all nigga mad as hell before cut, You'll show.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
My first time they were doing something that big. You
know what I'm saying. I told you we had just started.
So yeah, it was like that was big. We never
did know ship like that.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
We literally just.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
One of the one of the one on one was
like explaining the vision then.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Like for sure, super big show to my nigga Baby
in the city. Yeah, while they cut the because you know,
so it was baby and he had it was like
twenty people on the sit.

Speaker 7 (43:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
It was the last one to go, so I guess
his sid had it had went over the time, so
so it was time for the next people to go on.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
He was trying. He was trying to let y'all headline it.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
One.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, shout. That's the that's the.

Speaker 7 (44:07):
Way. Good energy. Every time you see baby.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
What producer that you ain't work with that you want
to work with?

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (44:16):
I really uh I want to work with all the
you know, big producers.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I really kind of still be fucking around just with
the you know, when I first thought I was on YouTube,
you know what I'm saying, So my producer already be
fucking with me, the ones that I met off YouTube
and ship, you know what I'm saying. We just build
a relationship off the YouTube. Ship I got the information
out there. You know what I'm saying, I alt really
never worked with like no super big producers. A few
I have, But what I'm saying, I uh, I want
to over it out all a different producer.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
I'm open to I'm I'm an open minded person. What
I'm saying, I'm open to try new sounds, new ship.
You know what I'm saying. So I won't work, I'm
ready to work with whoever.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
What else you think y'all beside unity that you think
y'all crew brought to the game that wasn't here.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
Ship like the uh just just the culture ship, like
just the fly ship. You know what I'm I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Just you know, like I feel like, Nigga, we bring
that that that, like the Courture ship back to the game.
You know what I'm saying, Like the like just to
fly ship, you know what I'm saying, And just uh
that the Curture Shift. You know what I'm saying, We
I feel like we bring this ship back for Shure.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
I agree.

Speaker 8 (45:19):
What's something that's overrated, like in your new journey, something
that you might have wanted to get, like a committed
cars closed a particular place you visited and you got
there like, man, this ain't really all this cracked up
the beer.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I spent all this money on this and this really ain't.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
Let me see the money. Let me see there'll be
a lot of ship like that.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Uh what you get? It don't even matter no more?

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Be like it ain't like the cause for show that
ship did they was about the course stupid ship. Ever, Bro,
what I'm saying hard to appreciate that ships money.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
She don't want everybody seeing you this ship over it.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Like I'm straight on the court ship.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
What about the close?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Did you?

Speaker 5 (46:00):
I know you said you got every piece of Louis
Vaton that Louis Baton than done.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Like see the thing with the clothes, bro, it's it's
I understand the business like we were just doing video shooting.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
Shit you're saying.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I'm telling my people like at nigga, don't understand the
logistics of this ship, nigga, but don't understand the marketing.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
You know what I'm saying. This ship always manipulation.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta manipulate the world.
Neiblate the internet, you know what I'm saying. So Nigga's
like you spending five thousand on the clothes and ship.
But it's like what I'm saying, it's it's all an investment, bro,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like your images,
everything and this shit.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
For perception. It's a perception game. I said, they gotta
have your tools and have your shit together.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
So I was the close of the tools exactly, the
clothes of years. Holy shit is tools. You know I'm saying,
you gotta have your tools. You know what I'm saying.
Because it's a perception game. You know what I'm saying it.
But you know, if they don't see it, don't believe it.
You know what I'm saying. Like I told you before
I started the music, being when I first started, I
was showing a cash, I started showing a cash. I'm
talking the same shit. I got the clothes on everything,

(46:59):
I want you the casket.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
The different.

Speaker 7 (47:05):
So understand, I understand. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
As I've been doing this ship, Nigga, understand you know
what I'm saying the logistics of this ship.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Nigga, canto what I kind of.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I mean, I ain't gonna go there for what I'm saying,
I ain't gonna go there for. I ain't gonna go there.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
For I want the video. Collectively, y'all had a bunch
of this.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
Ship on the State of Little Baby, and we had
probably about three hundred.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
But it's like when you're dealing when you're dealing with
like niggas in the Internet world and ship like niggas
gotta it's some ship like monkey see Monkey do niggas
gotta see the believe.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Exactly like they're not.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
You can talk all the ship in the world. You're
gonna have all the setups in the world and all
that ship, but if.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
They don't see it, the world just the word they're not.
They're not gonna like respect it.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
They're not. They's just that's the world though.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
That's the world unless you rapping like j Cole Now yeah, yeah, yeah,
they type hopping it you exactly, Pubpet, you better go
out there see for sure what I'm saying. You gotta
go to b keep going big for show for shure,
But how do you outdo yourself when you do that.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I mean, it's like ship niggah, I don't know, like
nigga's doing it every time. Ship keep going had on
your time, I ain't half stipping with it, and I'm
doing every time I did about four three what I
did about three folks this week now three Louis fifteen
time what I'm saying, but it's gonna pay out though

(48:30):
it's it's not good, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Can you make sure ship?

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
You can't and you can't even.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Remake sometimes the nigga do you know what I'm saying,
But it's like every time it got like videos Louis
bottom White t Sometimes it depends on might do a show,
might do something like that, but every time on the
video we're coming new every time, Oh yeah, for sure
you got videos we're coming and on post you can
on the post, on the post we're coming.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
That's crazy man who said that, but not not niggas.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Niggas go for real two three years and be like damn,
you just had that.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
On niggas for years, like what this ship crazy?

Speaker 4 (49:03):
It's business though, you know what I'm saying, Like I say,
it's a business. So nigga, I spent five I ain't
no telling what I made this week. It ain't nothing
for me to be five dans and back into the business.
You know what I'm saying, it's business. I tell you
I'm an entrepreneural for anything.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Ship you're looking at all this ship, you ain't spending
that ship. You looking at this ship like she is marketing.
This is a part of it exactly, and that she's
gonna it's gonna make my show price go up.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
So I'm gonna get that.

Speaker 7 (49:24):
Ship going up.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
You know, the interactions on the on the you know
what I'm saying, on the social media to social media
prisons like all this ship, I play the part?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
You selected about your features, like can anybody just reach
out you and you'll do a feature like the Hustling
Way or.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
I mean, I'm really kind of selected. You know what
I'm saying, selected Nigga, Nigga, I'm saying, fucking with I
fuck with y'all.

Speaker 7 (49:43):
I'm selected. I ain't gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
You know, you gotta be fucking with the song to
do it.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
Gotta be fucking with yo, the song. You know what
I'm saying, give it now.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
If it's nigga, the biggest artist nigga in the world
in me, but if I ain't feeling the song like,
you know what I'm saying, I ain't really any figger nigga.
I'm a back Marrathonou. I ain't for the claps. I
ain't with all this Ship. I gotta feel it. I
feeling it, don't feel.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
It what it is?

Speaker 8 (50:05):
Ship?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
By that real, that's how you're gonna stay here.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
Yeah, I ain't. I ain't on the clasps. Ship. I
gotta feel it, feel it, you know, salut, Keep doing
what you doing.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Do love you.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
You know what I'm saying, Keep pushing. But I can't
feel it. I just can't feel it.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
So so so you will like just say it's like
a show. Somebody seeing your show.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
If you ain't feeling that state or feeling that sit
or feeling that promoter, would you turn the money down?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
You're going?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Man?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Come on, man, I told you I used to do
for private Nigga. They send that deposit nigga, come and
get this back in you where you.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
Come?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Really ship backyard University, We come to get that.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
But really, ship pull it up, pulling up?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
What's what's something?

Speaker 7 (50:47):
Ship?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Like one of the weirdest shows. Weirdest time you went in?
Remember one time we was doing the show we were
going to.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Spot the phone on work.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
She ain't even have a bathroom.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
It was like some outside ship. Brother, it was raining
me and my nigga mean it, I forgot. It was
somewhere somewhere in Alabama.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
It was like rain.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
It was like outside, Bro, it's probably. I'm like, man,
this ship here, I wasn't feel that shit at all.
It was like outside, but it was raining, so it
wasn't that many people there. It just felt so awkward
and it was raining and ship and it's outside, So
I'm like, man, this shit here feel funny as a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
What y'all do?

Speaker 4 (51:21):
We had to performed, Hey, you so shit. We gotta
give him a show, but it just like it just
didn't didn't feel right. This feels so awkward and funny.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Do you stay to night or you get the fuck
on right?

Speaker 4 (51:30):
In that record, Nigga, I touched down the hotel. I said,
when it's time to go to the show, that college
drive we hoppening in this truck going to the show.
Put on a great show. No matter how many people
ten or ten to other people, they put on the
bitch show.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
You know what I'm saying, Nigga, were getting back in
this truck. We're going to this room. We're gonna be
in his room. If I flight ain't it five six
in the morning, We're gonna be in his room until
it's time for this flight. You know what I'm saying,
were gone, Bro, I'm talking about I used to be
weird on that see them, Bro, I've been thinks. So
I watched Uh Geez and Coach k interview and I'm
seeing how they was guerrilla marketing. So now it's like, Uh,

(52:07):
I'm telling my nigga, seip honey, like niggatta leave it
out on the court. You know what I'm saying, Like
coach lead it out on the court. So really, niggas
gotta really start going to these CITs a few days.
You know what I'm saying, Nigga, you got a show
before we need to gone. I if we not there personally,
send somebody. You know what I'm saying, Nigga. I seen
g saying the niggas hit the barber shops everywhere, put

(52:28):
these posts. Got a guerrilla market you know what I'm saying,
Like ship nigga, Nigga leave it out on the court.
And if this ship don't work, it's the reason why
it's like sit niggas.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
We do everything we need to do.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
It's no reason why it shouldn't work, you know what
I'm saying. So, like, nigga gotta start doing that type ship.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Yeah, that's that's that's a metality of a hustler for
show exactly. Get the bad don't promoter make their money.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
For show for show. But now I've been thinking like that.
I'm saying, like a nigga just started, so a nigga
still learning, you know what I'm saying, figuring it out.
Our nigga gotta get on that gorilla marketing, guerrilla marketing.
What I'm saying, I told you my dad did the ship.
Seeing them call my daddy. We put up the gas station.
He got the flyers in the trunk. Every time we
stipe of the gas station. Bro we at the gas
station thirty forty minutes passing out CDs, putting posters up.

(53:10):
You know what I'm saying, I gotta take that with
out side as a kid. Nigga steal into my game
and I used to do it. You know what I'm saying.
Around the city the posters my ship dropped, But niggatta
take it globally around the world, Nigga doing these different
shows around.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
But it's the Internet. Now those everybody, I mean people,
you fuck up.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
It's like.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
On Internet, I think it's people following me. They follow
so many people, they might miss your ship, might not
see you ship.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
You know what I'm saying. So you'll get handicapped thinking
all the Internet out.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
I need they going in that grocery store.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
You can the Internet handicapping. I've been handicapped by the Internet.
But now I watched the G's interview, they should motivated me.
I'm like, hell no, Nigga put in their face, leave
it all on the court.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
The most priceless thing to think it was the Snowman
T shirt exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
It's day's walking around to this day with our T
shirts like dirty as fuck with holes and everything.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
But once you you ride down the street, you see it.
You know that's cheesy, Like exactly twenty years later, like,
let's watch.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
The interview too, though exactly Nigga did one birthday bad
come on birthday pass at all.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
That means you gotta do that type.

Speaker 7 (54:23):
You gotta do that type ship, you gotta do that type.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I did before that type.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Then I dropped that though out the helicopter that was
next to you.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Bro, what's nixt man? We just we're working, bro, every day.
You know what I'm saying. I got the project coming
up here. It'ster fourteen months. It dropped like three, it's
fourteen months. He it's fourteen months mixtape. You know what
I'm saying. We're just working and the end. Shit, what
every guy got in store for it? They got I
got him planing for ship. Our guys playing so well,

(54:55):
we're gonna get that movie. That movie it's on the
wait for Shure. I was really already, uh I Sposta
had a script writer, me Me Pusta met with him
and we we we owned that were working on the
show Center.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You want to do one about your life about it?

Speaker 4 (55:08):
I want to do one about my life. I want
to do one about like I told you, I was
born in the music. I've seen all different eras of Dallas,
you know what I'm saying, a lot of like Dallas,
we've been like kind of Uh. A lot of people
been like living on a rock. They don't know about
the history on Dallas, you know what I'm saying. But
I know about all the shit I can go get
my pops, he and ship. He can tell you about
all the different eras before I even can't. You know
what I'm saying, And it's like, shit, I want to go.

(55:30):
I want to do the like a movie on the
whole Dalla shit. You know what I'm saying. The shuttle world.
So you know what I'm saying, a lot of people
don't know about Dalla. This ship, Nigga, Dalla's been getting
money around the mother for me, I've been going on.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
So you know what I'm saying. Even with the music.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
It's been going on with the music, different different eraas
and on the music at Dallas. I want to just
go back and show the world this ship.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
What you think the biggest difference between Dallas.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
And Houston, Uh, the biggest difference between Dallas and Houston
born Dallas and Houston, Houston. You know they Dallas never
had a fucking uh never had a Hasshold label. It's
another Hassehold label in Dallas. I'm saying, Houston got plenty
of rebel lights, Switch has screwed up clicks.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
You know what I'm saying. You can go on and on.
You know what I'm saying. Dallas we we we kind
of we like we liked it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
On the music side, we lack a lot of shit,
you know what I'm saying, Like, uh, producers, motherfuck just
the whole ship.

Speaker 7 (56:20):
Were just behind on it, bro. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
So thing with my well the influence, I kind of
want nigga like you say, the label ship and they
want to I want to bring out It to Dallas, Bro.
You know what I'm saying, Like a nigga come out
here and ship nigga learning shit out here, you know
what I'm saying. Even like with what I'm saying the studio,
the quality of the studios in Dallas, not even a bus,
you know what I'm saying. So they want to bring
Outlet to the city. What we're missing over for you

(56:43):
to do it now, that's why it's super wide open.
It's super wide open. So they want to bring all
that to the city. For sure, we're missing a lot.

Speaker 8 (56:49):
What would you say to like, you know what I'm saying,
a youngster that was in the position that you was
in three or four years ago.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
You know what I'm saying in the mix, trying to believe,
but pushing forward.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Man, Bro, It's possible. You know what I'm saying, that
you can do it. You know what I'm saying, Nigga,
that was just there where you was. You know what
I'm saying, Nigga, Stay focused, nigga, and whatever you believe in.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
You know what I'm saying. If niggas, you can do it.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
If you want to be the president, Bro, you can
be the president nigga. Whatever you want to be, Bro,
I'm telling you, you can do it. Nigga's possible. You
know what I'm saying. Don't let nobody tell you. And
when you you got your business ideas, nigga, you know
you should have business idea in the air and somebody
starts saying, how what about It's gonna be hard.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
Stay away from them, con Bro. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
You don't need to be around them cond niggas because
if you believe in your head, you can do it.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
But when you had some.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Type of people rain, it's you know what I'm saying.
I always got niggative ship to say. You know what
I'm saying, Discourage you on your dream.

Speaker 7 (57:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Oh, you gotta stay away from those con you know
what I'm saying, and and you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
Believe though and dough Tea, you know what I'm saying.
You can do it.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
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success to you.

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Speaker 7 (58:20):
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Speaker 2 (58:23):
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