Big Facts x Sammy Samm – Atlanta Rivalries, Street History & OG Growth

Atlanta legend Sammy Samm sits down with Big Facts to talk about the real history of ATL rivalries, including moments with Pastor Troy, Kilo, and others from the city’s early era. He speaks on facing incarceration, navigating loyalty, and evolving into a respected, grown OG with wisdom for the next generation.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big Bank, DJ Scream and Baby J with the number
one podcast industry, Big Facts.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Live from Revolt Studios. You know what it is, It's
time for Big Facts, Big Bank?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
What up? Baby J? What Up? DJ Scream?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm here, welcome in today a T L O G
real ATL legend, the one and only Sammy Sam is here.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
What use? What's up? What's up? What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Brother my daddy? Thank you for coming to see his mane.
Thank you for coming to see us.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah that was a good one, right yeah yeah, trying
to make come back, get a pension.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'll start for Sammy said, Man, Let's let's go back
to the beginning, beginning, beginning, Man, how did.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You get into music? Running around?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, that type of stuff. Well you want to know
how I really started rapping? Yeah, well it started with
I was a bad little kid in mechanical like we all.
And you can't say nothing about kids who bad these
day because we were bad. We just didn't have wasn't
bad as day us. Now it's gonna get batter, But
we were bad. I was a bad little kid running

(01:08):
around with Cannaville doing this and other, running the number
with the number guys, you know, doing all this stuff,
you know, just because I went no trucks, so the
car was a kid. But when we started getting older
and the raps started coming in the scene, I really
didn't like rap music there like that. And then right
them Sea came, you know, and right there, you know,

(01:29):
I had you know, it was like but right there
on Sea was like for me, like it was just
you know, so but at first I really wasn't feeling
around there. And see, so what was happening was I
was like seventeen when we was in Canneville and this
it was back in the eighties when it was off
the China, you know, money was everybody was getting money.
We thought we were getting a lot of money. You know,

(01:50):
everybody thought they were rich, had big Chinese you know,
you know, ankles on them.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
So so so so they said, Sam, we everybody going
to the They had a concert called the Fresh Vestal
all the biggest rappers, fat boys.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
You can anybody who was hired in the game with it,
they being right here, They're all gonna be in Atlanta
at the Omni. That's where we had the Omne saying
we got there. I don't straight y'all canna go I'm
i'm'a stay here now you got to go, you got
to go. We want to go there, So they got
me dressed. I really didn't want to go in it.
So I wasn't really feeling it. You know. I was

(02:27):
seeing the cry how everybody will crunk, you know, I
was liking that, you know, I'm feeling it. And then
Dougie Fresh came on and so I was like I
like that, like ud you know, I was listening to beautiful.
I wasn't really taking rapping mut like that cause I
really liked our old school back then on my Daddy
and them stuff. Oh Jay, you know, I was just
you know, tell the Pentograd and stuff. So anyway, long

(02:48):
story short, right there, all them acts came on stage
and right there and Seek came out, and the way
they came on stay you know how they come on.
You know, Broy won't come out of all that stuff.
You know, they just the crowd with I didn't even
know what I was. It's like that I'm screaming up chin.
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I got into me and that's what I said that.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I said, this is what I want to do, right
If I want to be a rapper, I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna do it like that. You know, I don't
want to be like every being rock kill good. All
the rappers were good.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Iicty.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
They were rapping though they were entertaining, and that's what
it made me came up with my cross now, you know,
because what happened was I couldn't when Atlanta got hot
with the rap guy. I couldn't do what they were
doing because base got hot and I didn't know how
to trump it like this.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
No, I didn't know how to.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I wasn't I really wanted, you know, I ain't couldn't
never catch it on. So I had to come up
with something, you know, like Rhyn with some killers on
the fanst you know, I had to come up. I
had to survive the booty shape. They didn't want to

(03:59):
hear out matter man, I know you got the drunk
on babe. I couldn't do nothing. And that's what because
I tried to come out like run them see them.
And right when I learned how to rap like run
you see them, then they switched the whole game to tackle.
And that's right there, and see really where they spied

(04:21):
me want to be a rapper. And and and after
seeing that, I start developing like I won't say what
other rappers and say. I won't say. I started feeling
like this, this is my act. If I do a
song and it's me and you and her on the
song together, y'all might not Verse might not make it

(04:42):
because this is how I started doing my shoulders. Like
if I come out who and I do the hook
in the first version, they crump, And if I try
to do this thing, they start dying. I stopped it.
Crank them ver. Yeah, you don't keep trying to rap.
Everybody do them songs and cry. That's a proud killer.
You know they can they them started looking out, they
ain't hunting them. Hold up DJ think this can't I'm

(05:05):
another one, you know, keeping crining, y'all. Right, Verse might
come on in my verse night. Might well keep the
show car that's my thing. Make them remember why he
got on stage right here. He was too much you
know What't be fighting to me because the rap indeed
day they got this. Now they too cool for me?
You know they too cool? You know you got really

(05:27):
if I'm looking at the rap guy, I ain't none
gonna lie to y'all.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I hate to say this, but it looks like the.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Women winning in me because crazy women cry they entertaining.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, they ain't entertaining.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
They can't. These guys can't do nothing now because they
can do that, y'all can do something. I get. That's
why I got a new album coming out, and I
ain't got and spining y'all by my age. I'm not
trying to be no rapper. I'm not trying to do
Little Die, not trying and do nothing. What I carried
back to do ain't for two things, to set the
music game straight. Well, even though a ghaist can show

(06:03):
you a ghyster rap or crump rap to show you
could do good music. And the thing all the thing
I came back for number one is I ain't got
my pitching. I ain't able to retire right now. I
ain't got nothing money then lay that because I ain't
finna work nout, you know. So I know, I know,
like like Michael join anybody, if I ain't got it,
I'm not even finna try to. You know, I'm not

(06:25):
gonna waste my time trying to drop something. You know what,
But I know what it? You know, like I got different,
you know, it's just you know what you like boots
on the ground country music whether I'm doing it, but
I'm doing it on another level, and it's gonna be
something else. I prompise you. They gonna say, man, this
old this old guy can't straight out the over timing

(06:45):
the wheelchair on y'all. I don't know what, because that's
all I think about it. I listened to the music
and I'm on what they on too, and I love
they music. It rappers out here who I really love,
you know. I like these young guys got love. But
y'all give me something different. Now y'all have gotten crump
on your music. Now give me something different. Don't keep
giving me your change and your money and you know,
and give me something different. Give me something different, son

(07:07):
to ride with? You know, Sonny, you know, you know.
And that's why when I was with Big On Records,
when I thirst, When when I got with Big On Records,
when I got Big On Record, that was a whole
other level. But me ain't big on because I ain't
never been no raffles. I had never made no big
hit himself with my aunt, but I wasn't no hit.

(07:28):
Jamaine Dupre then erased me uh her album when I
dropped with my aunt, you know, cause I was mad
at Jamaane the pre you know, just some some things
because he had made a song called Welcome to Atlanta.
He put a lot of New York God on it
and stuff. So I took it personal, you know, and
I hello, hello, Hello, you made you made? Yeah? First, No,

(07:52):
he hadn't made a Welcome to Atlanta, So no, no,
no the album that you said that he erased, that
you made with trying then how he rased me. That
wasn't mean somebody race. That's why I came and this
might free right, you know, I came like no, I
had distance, but you know we had got it. You know,
I was saving but I had came like you know,
I bad then I was. You know, I was out
of control. You know I was you know, no direspect

(08:13):
or nobody, but you know I was on drugs. I
was like, yeah, I wasn't. I was way faster to
I was calibated. You know, I was on another level.
You know, you wre I wasn't afraid of nobody. You know,
so a lot of people that want to deal with
me because my altitude. I really was thinking that I
was the realest you know, really not knowing I was
the craziest or you know, I could have got a

(08:36):
lot of money, a lot of opportunities. I blowed myself,
you know what I'm saying, just.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Because I said, at least you, at least you, at
least you had to like take accountability.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Nobody ain't never nothing hurt that hurt myself, you know,
like people think I'm crazy when I say something like that.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
When I say this, people think I'm crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Shit. When I went to prison, It's the best thing
could ever happened, because I wouldn't be right here today.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
I wouldn't be the man.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I would have never seen what I had to see,
you know, because I still was. I haven't got some
running from step there and all that, you know, but
I still wasn't in the right direction. Sometimes you could
be going down the road you don't supposed to be
going down, and God has just moved you. You know,
He just shot me down and let me see. He
let me see a lot of times. That's why I
went back and got the girl who I really know

(09:23):
and married her. You know, He just took me to
or stayed to show me everything in life. But then
I figured that ain't nobody there ship, How they come
how that, how that reality come to you? And then
how did it shape you moving forward? Because everybody who
I thought was a friend, you know how a nigga said,

(09:44):
you go to friends, you don't you go to friends?
You don't got no friends. But everybody who I thought
wasn't a friend was a friend. And everybody who I
thought was a friend wasn't a friend. And all the
people that I thought wasn't a friend stuck by me
all the way do really you know, they stuck by me.
And so when I started looking back, I looked that

(10:04):
back at what my baby mama went through living with me,
all that stuff, Uh, five four or five in the morning,
people not wanted with a chopper She because Sam not
the night I said they got from really ain't nobody
for real tonight. Didn't make it up and ain't be

(10:24):
halfloads anything I might say anything I can't get going,
then I can't go on.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know it's that.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
But she she she she lived with me through all.
She took that all the way to God Septate got
she just you know, she ain't that type of person,
you know what, and she she had she she dealt
with that then you got people like big Un took
a chat with me because nobody else would, and everybody
else asting like you know Sam, I well don't know

(10:53):
me anyway from the streets, you know. So when we started,
when we started doing our things, when we started doing
our things, ain't wh me in the studio at the
house one night. But the first night he took me
over there. We go to the house. He put me
in the studio with Fred. He said, that makes a
song or something. I'm gonna do something with some mess song.
I ain't know I was locked in and I ain't
know I was kidnapped. You know, I ain't know that

(11:14):
the day gates on. He had the key, the dope,
the studio here. He can't get out to them. Come on,
I ain't no we know, you know when I when
I do music like I can do four five songs
a day. I'm talking about complete songs, cause I get
it in the more I love music I listen. I
don't listen to rap music on my I listened to
country rock and roll, h and be jazz. I just

(11:37):
like me right, it's a good song. I look, I
can tell you about me. But anyway, lonst came that morning.
I said, damn man, he ain't know. I was still
wok here Fred still sleepy stuff, and I hadn't been
up for all night. I was locked in the cave.
I'm still so he man, what do you do? I shop?
I did, so you did a song? I did about
six on six of us six. H let me up

(12:01):
read in top so he said, listen, didn't underst what
I do? Like get going? Yeah, hey ben oo. The
word really set me back onto away from that that

(12:22):
that uh boot shaped music lord here well well, but
he still I had he had to have one, you
know what I'm saying. So I had to come up
with one. So I carried up with Ryan with some Killers. Yeah. Yeah,
well I I came up with that right, sending them
Acara of here. I already got some money. I'm voting
to be in my cale sending them yeah, and one

(12:44):
of my buddy tomorrow. Yeah, sir. We listened to the
hundred Mandu free based all Star compilation rioting were riding. Yes,
say you wanted to be on that? I said, I
ain't on that. He said, you'll be saying Ryan with
some Killers. I said. My next thought, show right, I said, sure.

(13:05):
Then I just thought that he gave me the idea.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's like it's like like sometimes you can get so
far caught up into like you can go like start eating,
like now I know how to eat on a special
you know. You know you can get don't you forget
where you came from your hood or like Rocky did.
And that's how I got you know, the knuckle up song.
You know, I never seen no fight. They say't knuckle

(13:29):
up without the chain. But I was locked up all
the time. But that from prison. He was like, no,
I ain't got y'all here. The promoter sam I said,
sell itself. You know, so I made that song. Y'all
won't believe it. This is how I do. I write
my own music. Let me tell you that I write this.
I've been through it with on a scene. But you

(13:49):
know how I get my real good music. I have
to go back to where I'm from, Like I go
to my hood, like smoking, hollering my cousin ernest in tone.
We'll sit down to bait on something. Then he'll play
an old school song. Listen to them say, oh yeah,
he said you ain't on that ship. I said that
I get on it and he'll help me. We'll make
I make a hook. We'll make it. But I I

(14:12):
capitalize on him, He'll be like, I'll be like, let
go in the studio do it like on knuckle up.
I said, let go do this knuckle up, go ahead,
I catch it that. He don't be killed about that
trap jumping. You know what I'm saying. But what I'm
saying there, that's how I get music. You know, anybody
she can say girl like this, Sam, I I she
can say that, I catch on that and I make it.

(14:36):
I take like you could say, well saying I don't
think that song motherfull? Thanks Sam, we want to fight you? Well,
I said like like he said, like old boy was
telling me out there and live. He said yes, saying
he said back and there I grow our lords. I said,
but Keilo on my favorite artist. I said that right,
killold good. You know what I'm saying and getting proper
to Kelo Keilo one back then I just went on that.

(14:57):
But Kelo one of the first singing raffles I had.
He was I had never heard it, you know, so
I thought it was gay being so over, you know,
but it was hot. You know how how that beef
stud that the first rap beef in Atlanta ever. Why
that beat man, I'm gonna tell you something right he else,

(15:18):
I'm gonna get to tell yourself now right here you
uh uh, I got to tell the truth about the
I'm mad that you know, but I'm still going to
give you props.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
But but but uh let me tell you some right.
He had all the right he had uh fabo yeah,
drama yeah, drama, Yeah, he had allio. But when he
brought Kello, we was at the night like on Moreland
An I never get kicked out of this man sixteen

(15:48):
I'm talking about. He was so out of control. Well
we got we was in the parking lot like we
park over here with a club, instance in that park
a lot and walk right, hey, hey, wanna put a
little stickers on people? When she by cocaine cutting out?
So Keto o to be doing right? He right, he
for the night in there with me.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
But right hein't gonna let the.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Arty do something. So I want you to meet him, Sam. Yeah,
I'll never forget about Kelo up. Yeah this' said something
saying and so killed like man, we all out here
all got way of me saying doing it out it
because it was with the beef starting. Hell right, he
started beef. He said, Man, I got we don't be
in the right. He's like, no, man, he going off.

(16:29):
So I said, I'm looking at it like a child,
you know, right you man? He said, honey, whatever you know?
Whatever they say back then he said, I said, man,
I don't even standing out that ship. He's nothing. So
I just said what I said, he said, this ship.
So we got in the club, right, he don't got steaks.
I wanted to introduce my art. He got up there

(16:50):
and he did the song Cocaine. It went out.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
He did it off the planet of rock beat. What
did the song? He started free styling. He said that
nigga Sam, that's Sam I talking.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm oh my god, Oh I ain't nobody then, excuse me, hen.
I couldn't get him right there right. I couldn't get
him back, man, because I got locked up the same

(17:21):
light my baby mama with some more budship. So I
had to go to jail for money.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Let him roll, let him marinate.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
On me, you know. So oh my god. Though, So
I'm me and Tim is t N S T in
S studio. Tim had the group Damage. We had Tim
and Sam studio, so Tim had the group, but I

(17:52):
am song car ain't nothing but a low ride, so
we couldn't do the song I'm in jail. So he
came up with he can't get no load, and they did.
Ain't getting no lower. So I mean tell you watch
I hear a quilo again a new song and hood
Damage trying to sound like Sam. Ain't I killed him?
Oh you just? I said, oh my god, I can't

(18:12):
get him back. He don'na drop two songs. They said,
any else to spell? When I got big fat.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
When I got out first. Then I'm gonna tell you something.
I will beef.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
See all y'all young raffers who beefing right now? I
want to let this be known. Y'all better let out
that crazy jump ro when we were beefing. Man, we
can beef each other, be in the same beauty. If
we anything, we'll get to fight him oufter to kill nobody.
We getting money, Hey, we get moneys. One time we
went in the bathroom and snorted together and came out
in You never y'all don't understand. It's about the man.

(18:49):
I'll let that cr How can you have forty million dollars.
They want to kill somebody. Oh why why you can't
let go somewhere you know. But the long story shot,
why this is how I Keilo took off. See Kelo
me and Maptor Trumpy wasn't nothing like me. She met
about Trumby's like, but me and Kelo beefle bigger, Yeah
people too. It was lit. Yeah, was pla nigga boy home.

(19:15):
But Kelo was not afraid. And see when Kelo hit
with this high, we really clai. I came back with
that song. I don't even but he had that he
was But listen, I ain't have but one song had
jack out. I had made that song. Uh, I ain't

(19:37):
nothing to play with. Uh that make a MC showy
on the MC had started. I had made and I
had got that the on the side. So we met
up at the night like they put on together right now.
I have a song called one on one time. I
used to do it at six the three sixth whatever
that was on the west side, the six self. But

(19:58):
the pat the crowd, but police couldn't do couldn't do
nothing to me in them club be cause they're like
hole in the wall. They couldn't old right cause they
were getting paid. But nine now they got thought. So
they told me, you know, do that song and go up,
gonna lock you ass up. Come, I always take I
got my sounds that I don't do it. But when
we got in that bathroom, so Kello walked me. Then

(20:19):
how big there? How big? I'll before well, well, well
me and big O them in the time right here,
you know we already be he come, Kello, don't walk me.
People don't even know. Stuff wrong with me now here
right now. It's on you running something. Yeah, you know,
I'm putting on the ad to take this anything from

(20:45):
go in the bathroom. I'm finna go on that. Gotta
kill you now, I gotta kill you. I got go
right in the bathroom. What's up, nega? What's say? You
got something over here? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I got something?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Let me crazy. You're gonna do that, all right, you're
gonna do y'all.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
So this ain't the song you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I ain't know about this on. I got this kid
right here.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
So everybody we come out, man, before I come out,
bare O saying them one saying yeah, So nigga, like,
what's up?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I said, We're gonna wait, man, because I ain't got
paid yet. I'm gonna tell him ain't wasn't on me,
you know. Then Helo went up about Boom that bore
cracking on good one, put it in value, and he
came out with that song. Was he coming out? That
came on? I ain't know what that's it far? Right now?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Anybody knows what Sam sal anybody? I know? Yeah? It
talking into an automatic for reality and that the real
I'm on that stoor.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
This here, Oh, you forgot y'all has just made an
agreement in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I gonna stay now. I gotta do six songs. The
first song I do, right, I don't even do this
song on this yere. I gotta get the crowd cracked
because I'm always thinking of a show. Right. You can't
come out plan give us a nigga back. You gotta
get your crop song first. So I come on there,
y'all already? Who got the paddle shack in here?

Speaker 6 (22:23):
I said, police, Yeah, cracking up? Tell it one on one,
two on two. They carry right up there while you state.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Again you couldn't get them. But it blowed me. It
made it look It made it look like cause I
didn't have no real comeback, but this song yeah too,
or so I ain't really didn't have had no combat,
but it made me look so hard like you really street.
They had to get him out of here. Yeah yeah

(22:58):
see that I blow your head. Yes, so it looked like,
oh man, sound he killed it, you know what him?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
So what he did or they gave me a mouth.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Up time to come back. And that's when I came
back with the Last Man, the last motherfucker's I said,
better roll out the red carpet. That's why I said that,
said Keo, I forgot the liberal we said. All they
were is to me out of forgot. But whatever. When

(23:28):
I came out with that, it's it set the battle
to well, me and Kelo got bad equal so well
we was on equal gown. All the thing happened. Then
Kelo made he made I ain't gonna say made mistake.
Well he signed to he had went and signed with
U outcad them or uh Dungeon family.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
That really when he didn't really mix with that.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know, they could have worked it, but it wasn't
really for you know, but when he did that, when
he did that, it really kind of slowed him up
a little bit. For me, and that's when I put
the rope. That's when I put the broke together. That's
when I came out. But that's when I came out.
Then I then then I made my ave and ride
with some killers with him duck take me in the

(24:10):
chair with me with the shot. It's that there I
did did like like now what I do Like Keilo
and my buddy we we we we friends called we
old men and we don't have fun in the game.
But what I do now, like I tried to show
up and support him, you know and whop and when
sometime he'll be show support me. But back looking back

(24:33):
then hit me and Hitbi was like it never turned
into it where we met each other somewhere and we
were like with some guns or we got into a phsical.
We know one time Greenside, he was with Greenshot. Greenshot
wanted to pay me to do it verse for it.
He had Jay got out of jail. I came over
to our hot then I came over there and doing

(24:53):
verse for then how he like play with me? He
like play with people I had crazy ire. I said, yeah, Keilo, man,
I like that, but I ain't gonna do it like
you want me to do. I don't do no like
sanging rap like you know I'm gonna do. Yeah. But Sammy,
I said, I started calling me Samon, He'll deal like

(25:16):
party you, Sammy, you're getting upset about.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
It this stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I said, man, be doing it, man, he but but
but he was wondering, here beef man, here beef man.
That was a hell of a beef like. We we
did that thing when I just got home and we
did that beach show up there. I'm show how he is.
You can never predict them. We just filled the show.

(25:38):
We was on Grid Street, sister clock the show and
we were talking about who won in the battle. We
were having fun. Left I said, I beat you. He said,
I beat you, sam I killed you. I said, yeah, crush.
You know we were just going. Then we're in the elevator,
so we talking and I said, boy, we had a
good show. Then, ain't no heart feeling time, you know,
time we got the show. The man I don't even know.

(26:01):
I ain't even know he's doing the song out there.
Anybody knows. I ain't even ready for me now four players, Yeah,
I ain't even this with this. The crowd all they
were waiting on. I gotta I have, man listen. I
thought it was old right now. I ain't even this
because we had me to try him me right here

(26:22):
in the tree. We had this like the folk. So
the morning I got I get a phone call by
you heard that that key on that new on the internet.
So I think he got a new song, so everybody.
So then one she called me one, she say, now
you heard kello this? I said, why, man, come on, man,
we had to show that like now. He don't think

(26:44):
he he ain't got no song. He in front of
he in front of the lamb son, he freestyted on
you showed when they said, yeah, Sam back at you.
He said he did that last night. He ain't no kill.
I said, oh my know. So I dropped a song

(27:04):
called Pokemon on the internet. Just I just a look
dropped so and the soft dough. I go, I create
pokemons by him? Right, So I don't never do it nowhere,
ripple tail. I don't never do it like now when
I be with him, cause you know, I had a
little meal. I always be with him, but I always
be helpy. But man, he don't give up hope to
be doing that. He or this is forever. He won't

(27:28):
let it go. Hey, how this ship start with you
in you in troo? Try no, try no, try hey man,
try really with me and Troy b there was a
lot of people who really took that be personal, you
know what, But it wasn't really personal because me and
Trout how I met Troy when Troy came into the
oot camp and we did that song with your labor

(27:49):
pull little ski Man and me, Troy and Loki. So
I'm thanking Trump all of the O. You know, I
don't know what. So we going out of town, Troy,
me and try already to get a You know, I
don't know none ain't history the man. I was in
priss like I always do over. I was in prison
and uh they say, you know he had him signed

(28:10):
with you on the person. They say, that's try Finn
to be on the basement with Tila. I said, oh
what now, y'all in the sea un cold the water
and everybody and this nigga know me, Oh, y'all mad?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
You know I ain't made man, but that I'm telling them.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know, I'm with my propos. Everybody looking at TV
in prison, you know how they be in the basement.
They do their free style and all. And they said,
we want to give a shout out, truy. I want
to give a shout out a big one, baby d.
They went to a commercial. I said, he ain't even
been he gonna say my name? Come back? How the

(28:46):
show go off with the commercial? I said, no, they
gotta come back. I don't know you man. They will
show hy video jumping off the building in Atlanta. Yeah,
the parachute. And I seen that guy damn big and
they got the reboy clashing. I know he ain't wearing
them rebok. I said, okay then and stole my bed.

(29:07):
Ain't I powered her? And when I got out. When
I got out, I messed with Dirty Wreck and Dirty
Reck me and Dirty Rect. But but his course was
rock over and rock and rock were like. He wanted
some artists and he was like he was like Dirty
Rat man. When I got out, Man, dir Rat, pull
up on me in a bit man, I had my man,
I have my Seve car. When I got Dirty Rat.

(29:29):
But he wasn't trying to do no music. He said, sir,
I don want to the gold Man with my cousin.
He really into the music. He rapped dary so rock
Rock was so little, you know, and I ain't really
I was like, I was looking at yeah, but why
well me and rock so Rock said.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I said, well, Rock, I'm put it to you like this.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You know, I'm this you know. He said, I don't
care what you do. Well, that's all I need to know.
So the first song I made that need Them Grow
might be like I went and got a little rep
from Diavelope. Yeah, got the aveloe. So rock got Rock

(30:14):
came in there one day. Rock came then up for
this true story. He seen, uh me and the rep
that's Diveloe study. He said, what got them in the study? Yeah?
Got that man that you really need you money, need

(30:34):
it man? You trip say you thank man. I know.
It's see that what y'all caught up in with the
streaks coming. Some niggas ain't like what you out like.
You know, nobody bill in them, all the Marnies, you
know what they do, man, they cool. So we we
made the abbe So I had the song step there,
So I said, Rod Sai, I'm gonna put step Dad

(30:55):
on them too. I said, I ain't put this ship
on them. That one called one way in one way out.
I said, not really put the step down on him
because uh uh, this don't fit this album, her fully
attack album, you know. So he said it was me
drove cause Droe album Fold that came out Birth all
the reason my ALM came out first, and Rock knowing

(31:16):
because him and Drove hanging out every Yeah you drove
mill x at that time. But see and he messed
with y'r turt too, turt over the over there too.
But look, me and Turn had the song rock and
Drove see drove hang with Rock. They were going out kid. Well,
I was in the studio all night. I had ok
by a car. They ain't never moved no gas, struck

(31:38):
this shit in the studio play there on the track.
You know, I just do music when I get you know,
I didn't like the music back then. And when Rock
they seen him you see my you know, and we dropped.
And when he dropped the album right, we got dropped.
We started getting hot out that song drove my bid
because we ain't released no single. They're like man the wall.

(32:00):
He grove my beer start looking up. But in Alabama
they were talking about step Daddy, which I don't know
on have them so because I wasn't ever listen to
my I'm telling me when I dropped man, when I dry,
I already knew the song we had them picked.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, I dropped everybody. I told her how I ride.
He'll tell you I ride like that.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm gonna be listening no Salmon, I ain't talking about
sh me. I'm just say, ain't gonna high I just like, no,
like listen to rap a lot.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
So they need so why they got there and growing
my beer.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
But in Alabama, Stepdadd had on twok off I'm talking
about he took off to the to the point where
when when I found out, I said, hey, Ron, he
put step Dad on there. Yeah, Man, I told you man,
that's it.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
He said, yeah, Man. I told any lady d J J. L.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Copper he was at a parament what in the west
end that record store yoused to be in the rest
I can't thank you temple And he said, hey, Man,
spoke from the university here on the top to you
on the top of the San Rock, said said folk
on the university. He want to talk, said where they
cut me? I said, telling meet us at Alphabean on

(33:08):
Caka Rock. They'll think meet us, said athlebe that seven o'clock,
they said, yeah. So when we got there, see, you know,
I ain't never do it with a little big country
like Universal four. So you know, I'm still rough, you know,
kind of rough. You know, I cover it over out
of all that God damn gold teeth like straight out
flee not tell me that I ain't nothing, but the locals,

(33:34):
I don't even think about nothing. So then now they
gotta god damn fold this be got my name and
on the paperwork already, you know, already know my name.
So rob over, they said, Sam Country. I said, I'm good, Rocky.
Whatever you want to do, he said, man, that what
you work for all your life going and uh do
your things? Said I strap they paying for me anyway,
They paying the money. So motherfucker got damn well, uh

(33:59):
Universal carry deal And I said, well, that's the only
thing I said.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
I said, you know, I'm distastic. That's why we came
to get.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
He was They said the country. They said that, uh uh,
how well, I went up the right Ryan b you
know that was last Adam's son, and they said it
ain't no more reason to the country like that. At
this time matter people were leaving too because they put
the side Cat Money Daddy, side Cat Money, Cad Money
was on the universe, but they weren't signed. Dad just

(34:30):
signed the dirty boy. You know, dirty boy. I'll hang
with the dirty boy. But anyway, the step Daddy man,
we planning. We're planning, right, man, I don't know that
motherfucker went. Man, I'm gonna tell you something another country.
You know, Well, I don't think we get credit for
that kind of stuff. Well, man, let me tell you
somebody that step Dad man I had did a show.

(34:51):
You know they got this way. You go on this
road in Vegas. You know, you go out to this desert. Yeah,
look I did a shower country folk a car or something. Man,
I almost started crying on things here a crowd of people,
you know, say your song.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
You know, then what you live for your whole life? There,
what you live for, even.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
When the money and this sighting, this the many people
hollering your names, you know, that's that's shit being so
much to your heart. It take a lot of ways.
So go back to what you were asking me, what
made me change? You know? I look at all that
ship on Stepdaddy flying to these you know, and what
I had going on and how I blew that to.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
I just still get it back. I got what made you?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
What you think like looking back in hindsight where you
think your mind was like back then to to even
funk all that ship up gone.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
This man, Let me tell you something. Let me tell
you that.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I mean, people get Some people do good music on drugs.
Some people you can get on drugs and do it.
Let me tell you some drugs not just draw too
much to it to fuck anything, you know what, So
sometimes you can't thank for yourself. You know, that's how
I felt about me. I felt like I don't care
who you were, you know, I feel like I'm somebody,

(36:08):
but I ain't got shit. You know, That's the only
thing about me. I just didn't have shit, but I had.
I tried to stand up like I had something, but
I didn't have now, but they were killing my opportunity.
That said, That's why I try to make when I
do an interview that I try to make people understand,
like these young folks, when you get it, it's easy
to lose. You know, you think a million dollar a
sudden and shit, man, I spent a million man may

(36:29):
and I ain't talking about ship. You tried a million
dollars man me. Hey man, that's why I say invest
your money, gets your bill or something. See, I ain't
have thating going on with some four who us and
you know, just you know, I wasn't there. I ain't
never do nothing fuck up. But it's just the point
of I didn't never succeed I thought I succeeded, but
I never succeeded because it was like I was doing

(36:51):
more than, more than more than the people that surround me.
So it feel like I have made it, but it
was so much potential to have so much more. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
See now you see I can't say it like that.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I know. Yeah, see like I feel like I'm the
king over these Yeah, but it ain't nobody to be killed. Yeah,
you know. Butt like I'm doing good, You're not doing
good because then you got people you got to take
care of too. You know, only real man, I don't
care who you is. You can not meddle with somebody
your family. They can be meal messed up in your family,

(37:25):
but if you straight help them, you gotta help. You
know what I'm saying. I'd rather help them than let
somebody hurt them, you know what I'm saying, and that's
that was my thing too.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I was a centerrello man. I always been a centerrello man,
because I give away, I give, I just take stuff personal,
you know, I give, I give away, you know. But
my my, my bigger mistake back then, like imvitament, you
uh met somebody, anybody who was about business. They weren't
one to deal with me because you say something on

(37:53):
like then, I ain't kill this hey, So who you
think all the time go there from all time, go
all time? Hit Man Simmons. Besides hit man, uh said,
I think that real hard. See the semi carried one.

(38:15):
You said, let's see you want I just say, got
the John because I say, le John besides something, I
ain't gonna say no nobody. I ain't gonna get nobody,
no goat because in this category here forced the music
busing that from crop the city back in all day,
I say, kelo me little John, right, hain't him all

(38:38):
them they're good, ain't no differrespect right here they were
before me anyway and everything. But what I'm telling you
here when we when we were out man, when when
when Le John came with the krump, you know Le
John took it to another level. I been doing crump,
I have been doing trap. Tell like T I t
I's a goat too. Now let me get them get
on my fun I forgot about you. You go to

(39:00):
your folk goats. I can't say nothing one of us
but for me just being who I am. Anybody, if
it will to y'all, he said, he gonna say I'm
the goat. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I just say I'm the goat because I went through
so much. Man.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I've been shot sixteen times, man in my life. You know,
I've been shoting the head and the face, in the hands.
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Look that's in the streets, you know. So that don't
make me go it, don't make me know.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I been through enough to know that it's trying to
do something right, you know, And that's all I've been
trying to do. Just do it.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
My new alb on the hBN.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Let me tell I got a new album. I want
to let y'all know that y'all gonna say I'm not
exaggerating that. Y'all ain't gonna.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Never hear me like that.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
This is the best of me. You're gonna ever hear
this every album I ever dropped been better than the
last album. This album out here on the top. It's
gonna be my go out the door album, you know what.
That's why I try to do it great. I hope
I get a Grammy house, but I'm pushing for something.
You know. I got few twelve producing, and I got

(40:03):
great up producing. I got trapped Faboa on a song,
and uh, I got King on a song with hein.
You know, I got mostly the old school, but my
producer is in the house. What do you think make
little John to go? When you say why, I say
that is cause you know a lot of Negas had

(40:24):
done KROP music, and from the shit all of us
doing KROP even though I've been doing krump oh le
John and them came. But the John took the John
took the Krop music everywhere world yeah, worldwide. So you
gotta get on the props for that he took. He like,
That's why I was so happy. That's why when I
did when he did the song with me, I'm gonna

(40:46):
tell you how people can be stupid. I got mad.
And because they had Pastor Troy on the song, this
can't do it like men. So I go on that song,
I go to the studio on back here my turkey
ticker right man, he bore y'all to move some face,

(41:08):
was like, I got a song for you. It's our
hit song. Don't worry about what. Let me shake that
laughing at tap you turn that leaven, tap man, you
turned the eleven. Tay said, give men lie with his

(41:28):
beliefs that that he should put you. He should put
you on, geek put them on, you know already, So
he's already I already did.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
So I'm really got damn man using my brain.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know, I ain't thanking nobody call looking at laughing
at you know, keeping about that laughing.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
My dumb man. I looked at the wards.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Come on, laft tap, I ain't tell my girl I
can turn right, I thought, because you make the undercisions,
because you're thinking where you're at. You're like, no, well
what you can be? And I could be like you said,
I wasn't where I could be, and I been making
dumb decision just bigger than everybody you knew. That's how

(42:13):
that ship goes like that. Does she give you a
false sense of goddamn validation like to losing Yeah, this,
God damn you losing cause I call you all back down.
You're gonna fall right. The people gonna still be the king,
all them same, don't them? Yeah? But but man, man,

(42:36):
what is the other opportunity you feel like you missed
that you look back on like, damn, man, I fucked
that up too. I really show you. They didn't even
gonna do good. But it's a group y'all. Y'all probably
never heard. They were called time Shirt right in the
hood John Due superfius. I'm talking about my stupid dad.
I got money from step dad, you know they call yourself.

(42:58):
But no, my well, he the one who they grew.
So he was paying me, you know, to come over
there and do songs with me and all that. But
well he wasn't never serious about it. He was paying
a lot of money to do stuff for them instead
of paying the DJ's chus you know whoever you got
to pay to get the songs. He just well, so
he was super file. And after this opportunity I missed,

(43:20):
if I was smart enough, I would have went on
and put them, got them and put them on my
sht you see, because now they were like thirty something,
they were you're real, You're on then and they what
they're doing now, they were doing did and they were super.
That's an opportunity that I blow because I was so
angrant of thinking that you know, I'm the man, you know,

(43:41):
like you know they long they paying me to be
on that ship they say they need else. I had
an opportunity to blow to brain new because at that
time univers will give me fifty thousand dollars for for
for for discovery, like an artist. I brand them and
they like them because they had some ARTISTY called a

(44:03):
small time ball or small Alabama out of Alabama, thirty
little just died. He would hang he just died over
by kroguls Oh on Morland Avenue. He just died here,
had a heart attack or something, you know, and dirty
and drove and in keilover them in Alabama. That's the bolts. Yeah,

(44:25):
but yeah, man, them them trying to serve. That's the
big opportunity I could have. Man, I could have win.
It blowed up and see something. That's how a lot
of people do. You know, they get so bid to
theyself they forget about it.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
That's why I'm gonna never do that, you know, never.
But ego, ego, you know, just you know it, don't
even be you hating on him. It just b They
ain't They ain't bigger, They ain't nothing to you, right man,
you shouldn't feel like you shouldn't feel like that. That's
what I learned too. See, I learned a lot of ship. Man.
That's why I say it's like right now, I got
a chance to recoup that when I got these young

(45:01):
boys now a poet and motor head and hell of them.
Oh my god, I tell anybody, Oh see see what
I what I'm trying to tell people this, not though
Simon Sam coming back with some stuff I learned. I listen,
I know what the street I deal with young folks.
I feed off them. If I'm gonna try to do

(45:22):
some music, I gotta feed off who buying music, you know,
And I feed off them, and a lot of stuff
they say be good stuff, you know. It's just they
be in their way, easy stuff, you know. But a
lot of music young folks got. Man, I'll be living
and that's what I feed off. And that's why I
say so they better be getting ready. The name of
the Airbence. I wasn't dead. They thought I wasn't dead.
I wasn't dead.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
They thought I was dead.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
They ain't. Looking back on the music industry, who you
think did it the best out of this whole city?
Like who if you look bad like I'm the city
or just out of the city, just from the city,
Like he was smart, that did it the best? Yeah? Man?
Who that who that is big flat red ship man?

(46:09):
That that did music? That that that didn't music? I
mean that did being in still you know, like rock
rock deady too, but rock ain't in the game or
you know, like you know, I mean, I mean, I've
been looking at a lot of rappers. I mean I
don't see no rappers uh right now? Now who who
came from our age? Who was a rapper? Who transition?

(46:32):
Transition right now? See, that's what I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to what I'm finna do. I'm gonna try
to make history that artists my age. Man. I appreciate
that though, to come back.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Main, that's the truth. Man. Let me tell you why
I was in prison and that new move out super Flyer. See,
it was so funny to be with fire. I didn't
like that little bit. I didn't like he was not
bad damn that you know. Then I was like, they

(47:04):
put this look cause I like you cause that was
me that little with me. Can't tell me ship I
shoot him that what tell you? I mean, you know
for it's pioneer, motherfucker do like like you know, motherfucker
who's a rapper? I mean that look that look you know,

(47:26):
like on trans City if you really want to get
to it, you know, I say, I say, uh uh
that transiting here outcasting Outcastle's goat. It's the goat. Really
really is the goat because they just got a duping
into the hall. Right. Really, I'm sorry about that guy.
I just spect you drink. I forgot now my mind

(47:48):
told you I ain't on drug no more. I can't
think that the drum wipe out on the drawer. I
mean told on myself. Yeah got my daddy. Hey man,
you should have seen how much that song there brought
controversy that step dad. What when I got When I

(48:11):
got to the wild Ward Sandy Son who they thought
I wore when man I got we were coming out man,
and they're like that you that we liked no music.
They said, yeah, they said that's him. I said, what
something is I'm gonna do step Daddy said, that's a

(48:31):
new Oh, you ain't gonna do that up. They thought
I trick daddy, trick, No trick Dad it was, but
it did in Florida one down. They started telling me
that I looked like j G Man that yeah, back then,

(48:54):
you know what to day all y'all need look all
of them. Everybody up the game right now. I mean,
I mean it's a lot of free promotion and all
that because you got the Internet, but never telling people
say no, I mean that's good that Internet and out,
but then that good for promotional. Don't be that just
dropping no album, putting it on, no hero, no saw

(49:16):
man promote that. Do y'all think that you that you
think you want to get on tip top and all this,
You still gotta do your footwork. You gotta get these
club djas and radio dj playing. It's still gonna ca
see somebody you think out there gonna blow you that Hey,
you said you said like the singing rap ship at
for you like man that ship? Hey, what's some other

(49:38):
ship that you've seen that you that that blew up
that you thought would never blow up? Like you know
how we be looking at some ship like like laughing
at it, like I never thought that blue. I'm thinking
no song. Oh, I'm telling you when I really I
sleep the prettyure for the first time, I said that
ship ain't going nowhere cold all in my mouth on

(50:02):
the bicycle that but that you blew, yeah yeah, all
the way up out of they shoulder.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
I don't remember when they showed. I looking at that,
I said, oh, he ain't going no.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
At the storm screeenz, but that ship blew all the
way hopped me up my wool, I was saying, I
said lost. That ship went out of here to this
day just like, uh, that dude say what that dude? Uh,
you don't remember that when they said hand on the ground,
pass on the ground, hand On, you don't remember that song.

(50:36):
It was a song called pass on the ground. Are
you talking about? Somebody had made the song. But the
dude downtown in Atlanta used to be down there. To
my the young boy be walking out and be talking
to this yere, you be cussing the lives. Look at
your pants on the ground hand on? Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know you up there. Yeah he was somebody. Damn yeah, man,

(50:58):
ship you will never done. Man, what you miss from
miss about the old Atlanta. I just miss how I
really miss how freed was, you know, like everybody free man.
I mean, you could do what you want to do.
We had a lot of opportunities, you know. But then
you know everybody if one hood, everybody had your unity.

(51:21):
You know, really the unity was grown. You couldn't come
in nobody Me and you can be in the same
hood and be fighting every day or shooting at but
nobody else couldn't come over there and do nothing to kill.
Now I gotta even if I see you see a
nigga do something that I don't know, we could be
got into it thirty minutes ago. Oh hell, Now, I
can't let you do nothing the same we together? How
the hood? I mean that the community even houses, not

(51:45):
the apartment everybody. You couldn't go in there community unless
you knew somebody or they come first gonna check you.
You know, That's the only thing I really missed about Atlanta.
You can go in the club, man, get crumped. You
can get put out the club saying you could be
one of my cousins from another neighborhood. Come over here
and get the fight with one of my boy ma'mna

(52:05):
help my bun up your hand cut how I walk?
Don't bring them back over here on TV. You don't
know what to do. Gotta get on your hand, car,
I gotta stay here with me with me.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Wo yeah, with your.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Hand That's what I really mean. You know what I mean?
And I miss how how how futher used to be?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Got? Damn?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Well, everybody knew everybody, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Like everybody was a star. Then the bo Yeah you
said the car got that new crew Jack nigga ain't
got no monch like you know Earl that he got
some new joy. You know, everything was something to talk about.
We were having fun, weren't Nobody wouldn't hate knowing each other.
Like now you could say you could see me pull

(52:48):
up in a new car, knowing last month I was
just sitting over there with no running with no shoes on.
But I just pull up in the new chain and
damn saying I got a new car. Didn't know there, man, man,
I stole that car, you know on that gonna give
me no credit? Know, So who the most legendary nigga
came out of the Cannabian beside you? The most nigga came.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
I got got in the.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Street legend right Lane, Yeah, I get Rock Lane, my boy,
right Rock and Lane was really the person who I
was to be Man Right he was, he was. He's
like two years older than me. But right was the
one who really helping everybody.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
He was rich. He was just out of control.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Y'all have a bunch of man. We had Kenny MANE
had Bi Jane Well, we had Nickson. Yeah, we had
Willie Jean Man. We had Man. We had a lot
of Booker from older don't steal over there, take over
from cannabill to that now pakro from they from silver

(53:59):
here bro the a Yeah, I ain't no you know
take off what got some money too? He give somebody
with my nigga getting it here will it's somebody them
ahead went to be an age and the son Yeah
I mean oh yeah any yeah yeah yeah, yeah, you
know yeah yeah, tru yeah yeah. He started getting the

(54:25):
trucking company and the basketball for oh yeah, who else
is somebody who missing? Man? Let's see who else that
was that ship that was coming by breakdown in the
can slip over the yeah slip yeah, yeah, you don't
really mess car. I used to sit we sitting there

(54:46):
paying me to wrap if we're sitting there and we
used to be able there call everybody can to me,
it was like they were beefing against big because they
don't care. They break down. Come from manwall to get
the tray down there like a figure dollar slab. Ten

(55:07):
dollars cut you to lead three three three boats all
at that thing on lock Man. The boy I had
that they cut off at nine. That nigga got everybody
we be walking around Mama the motherfucker niggas. But yeah, man,
the old Cay, you know, it's like all the old hood,
you know. I raised them Academy. I raised on mud

(55:28):
Drive by Kirk. I went to the corn you know,
and I just look at how everything changed, Like when
I go in that area, now that whole area different.
She used to be real fun. It don't look like
what what's some ship about the New Atlanta that you like? Well,

(55:48):
I'm trying to think too much. Damn traffic, I can't
get nowhere. Uh. The only thing I like about New Atlanta.
Police can't pull your from there there for nothing, but
how they used to do, how they can see you
and profile and pour over. Now I feel like showing
my id. I can do.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
I'm telling you the funny thing to me right now,
it's so funny to me that I got driver license,
all my license, all my life.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I never wanted drive because my name ain't never been
my name when I even if I ain't done that,
I don't give my real yes, but I got drive license.
Well that's that's that's another thing too about it about
the city man and road radship. Serious in the city now, yeah,
stay away. Now the white boy be telling me to
put put it over man for real, stop keep going man,

(56:45):
the city man. But but boy, it's Atlanta now, man,
Atlanta has came up to be really by Atlanta is
it's hot hot.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
But we got a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Where we're gonna get when we're gonna get the hit
man moving, man, let's do it. That's what we need.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
That what we do. We need to do another super flying.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
And let you be the nigga from the one. Yeah
let me yeah, well yeah, we need out. Who's gonna
tell them Cannabi a story. Let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I'll be glad to play the movie. I'll be glad
to do a movie.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
But I give them the real Canneby because we really
turned the Cannabi the wednew cause cannabill renal was killing
each other too, until the Miami boy came. This way
brought us back together because we refused. They didn't never
make no set up. And over that they refuse. They
that what brought up back together. We had to stick together.

(57:42):
Cause then when when they came, we had thirty eight
nine n sh nobody here got them doesn't cross called
grenade launchers.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
And six an't going to wall with one of them.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Look them nigga, them niggas. When them nigga came, even
though it was a bunch of bullshit, them nigga did
change it change the course of Atlanta. Like niggas started
really want money around that time. Niggas started got damn
I want to get fly, put on jeir and ship.
The nigga brought gold name we're gonna say he brought
gold to you, but they brought the greet the super grille.
The nigga going to get them real grills when them

(58:19):
nick came. Yeah, them nigga came with that money. They
took over all your baby mom apartments. Oh yeah, that
was over. They brought tricky. Yeah, nigga wasn't really getting
hold no money like that too. Yeah they they brought that. Yeah, yeah,
they were giving them a whole money. Yeah, I'm knocking up.

(58:43):
Man gave me money. Wow, bitch, the.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Boy got the boy set up.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
See Okameka ain't like that, but the okay like that
said them brought money. No man, boy brought money. But
they brought money for theirself. See they don't have the time.
They just cut off. When they cut all nigga, the
whole hooill still be stinky. Got these people think we
selling We got that. You're already about it now, world

(59:19):
back the man, everybody. It was so much slimy stuff
going old man, theigga give you a stack of money
like this, but then in the midst of drop that
bag in your car, Liah saying, but it's good to
see that you're still here, bro, still taking you know
what I'm saying. Cause nigga all the ship that the
nigga don't even do it. All the stuny nigga, hurt nigga.

(59:41):
Nigga don't live lid inla on the goddamn with that
still boy. And that's how you got to know it's God.
You know God preserves you for something. You got a reason.
It's something you here for you haven't done. You know.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
That's how I look at That's why I thank God
every day.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I ain't even go to church, so I don't feel
bad even say I ain't even go to church now,
because that's the only way them demons, they have to
stand outside and wait till I come out. Every standing
out that they're gonna be come. You can't go in
the demon's outside wait time I walk out. The fell.

(01:00:19):
We didn't do something real year, for sure, we got to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Hasn't been anybody like like pay homage to you, like
just reach out to you, like do music with You'll
just salute you, like from the younger generation anybody the city.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
You know where crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Why you said that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Look now, since I've been doing these podcasting and you know,
they gotta know on kind of album coming, you know,
it's like my.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
My face, I don't win. A dude I growed up with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I hadn't seen him in like a year or third years,
you know, And I went into the half the way
you boy, the fake halft, you know, one of them shots.
You know, I'm going there. One of my buddies on
it DJ l fits Sean Radio DJ Sean get them
shot out. I go in his spot, his spider on
on A I wrote. When I get in there, I
get out of truck. The dude standing here, the big dude,
you know, and he's looking at me, and I go

(01:01:06):
on in the stove. When I come back out the stove,
the dude say, man, you said him sign. I said, yeah,
I growed up with gonna call from home, he said,
he said, I stopped there. He said, my daughter told
me that you. I said, yeah, he said, she's fourteen.
What he said, yeah, he said, she don't know nothing
about this top can't stuf. I don't know. She told
me how? I said, well, you know my numb my

(01:01:27):
number one songbody. We stepped there her.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
And she said, I told him that I was your
biggest song. She said, gonna look at him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
But she's still flowing around. Yeah that you know that
high you know, get you got you got you you
on social media and ship too. Yeah, well you know
see I got you know, I just been doing this stuff.
I'm just really just trying to keep my face back
and knowing through the young folk. Yeah. But so with
my air drop, because it's gonna be amazing. How they

(01:01:59):
gonna be like, no, you know they're still in tune.
How he's still in tune because I ain't trying to
be like nobody. Ain't trying to rap like nobody. I'm
just trying to give us some people. Let people know
you could do some good music. No matter how you
do it, you could do some good music, differentest music,
the best music. So everybody trying to do the same,

(01:02:22):
you can't beat them. Nigga already hit him with the same.
Yeah here and now, Yeah, you can beat them being
yourself though. Yeah that's what I say, man, But yeah, man,
I appreciate I got to give a shot out big
O shout out to DJ Monte family. Yeah, they're my
family right now. But we don't do a lot of show.
We don't been out of town, we don't fall in there.

(01:02:45):
Only one I know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
He almost had a pleasing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Sprokes dealing with me. I won't tell y'all didn't want
funny story, you know, I like to tell this story
that how I knew it wasn't no joke. We go
to Afrobe One, met B and his son Big Corda
Carter Yon. Yeah, real, y were sitting in alphabele so

(01:03:10):
on the order of a fish and frieda and some something,
you little son, and uh they got some little stuff.
They got the whole tables around it, you know, with stuff.
So I'm there eating, we talking. So here they come
out the back old waitress with stuff burning frying on
the right there they walked down this stuff right. I said,

(01:03:30):
why that boy they gonna I said what I said
them them there are dirts, man, Jimmy bit coughed, Why
they're gonna eating some wide cat?

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Why telling this out?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Whoa he lose that weight now? And just opening up
a restaurant. Everybody go to the restaurant, boss, I go
into it all food. I found out about it. Uh.
I knew we were opening up a restaurant, but somebody
told me, man, you ain't been a big new restaurant.
They got good food, went over some good air food.

(01:04:07):
I've been going back and everything. Definitely pining this shot,
like you said, Shout out to the whole camp and
the whole crew. Man Jelly Man shouts out to the boy.
Yeah boy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Shout out, yeah boy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Shout out Grady, Tasha one two Joseph, shout out the
big pete all. Y'all boy, y'all know what's up, smooth,
we got something coming. Me and Black got some coming.
Some matter me with that parent that beatle weed put

(01:04:37):
us on. But sure, hey, we appreciate you pulling up. Man,
you know what I'm saying. Appreciate you know you're pining
there too. Now I know your grip, the grip and
man work with you please, yeah, for sure. So sure
we appreciate man be begging to get on them. Scream
you was on them. Yeah, I know. I don't know

(01:04:57):
how we were getting me on them. Man. We're coming soon, Man,
coming soon. Yeah, put put that ship in there. Bro.
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Much successful on your new album. Let's continue success to you.
Appreciate you pulling up. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It was always open like the church. Whenever you want
to pull up to let her know. Bron lead the
demons outside though said outside certain place that can't call
if I standing in the park like long time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Thank God.

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