April 19, 2024 • 50 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reveals how many quarterbacks will be taken in the first round of the NFL Draft after receiving some intel from a source. Former NBA G Jamal Crawford gives his thoughts on some of the biggest NBA Playoff matchups. Plus, Legendary Broadcaster Al Michaels tells us who he thinks is the greatest athlete of all time.
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Michaels a little bit later on, and former NBA guard
and a player that Marvin thinks is one of the
five most exciting players who have ever played basketball, Jamal Crawford.
Are you going to tell Jamal that you think he's
one of the top five most exciting players?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
You guys didn't say five, You guys said the most
exciting players. And he's in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, but you put him in the conversation of most
exciting players. Absolutely, Okay, all right, you're going to die
on that hill, aren't you You're going to be You're
going to be alone on that hill.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Love.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Jamal Crawford not one of the more dynamic, exciting players
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six days until the NFL Draft. Spoke to a source
last night and I said, what do you have for me?
And he said, at first I thought that Michael Pennix
and Bo Nix would not be in the first round.
I said, okay, that's information. And then he says, but
(02:00):
the more research I do, the more people I talk to,
we're probably having six quarterbacks taken in the first round.
And that means that Michael Pennix Junior and bow Knicks
are moving on up. And that's how he described this.
He said, you're first four. They're probably going to be
the first four depending on if somebody trade, somebody gets squirrely,
(02:22):
somebody moves up. But he thinks that those four quarterbacks
are going to be taken, probably in the first four picks.
So then my source said, you know the Raiders, you
got to consider them with Michael Pennix. You know, do
the Rams want to move up Denver? What do they do?
So bow Knicks and Michael Pennix, according to a source,
not initially in his first round, but he said, after
(02:44):
talking to some people, I truly believe there's going to
be six quarterbacks taken in the first round. Sean Payton,
Bronco's head coach, talked about taking the right quarterback.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
You'd say, man, it sure looks like we have to
draft a quarterback, and yet it's got to be the
right fit, the right one. And if we had the
tip sheets as to who everyone else was taking, to
be easier to answer that question. And so that's the
puzzle here.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I've been saying this for a long long time. Don't
take a quarterback. Take the quarterback for you, And that's
what Sean Payton is saying. GMS make this mistake and
sometimes what happens is nobody's telling you the truth. For
the most part, or at least publicly. Now privately, you
might get some indications here, like you know, we like
him if he's there, and you'll hear gms or you'll
(03:35):
hear fellow scouts that they'll count things, you know if
he's there. Well, even if he's there, that doesn't mean
you're taking him, but you know, trying to work your
way through the smoke screens is the interesting part. Six
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the Bulls at the Heat Kings at the Pelicans according
to DraftKings. I've got the Bulls getting one and a
half against Miami Miami without Jimmy Butler, and I've got
the Kings giving one and a half to the Pelicans
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in New Orleans. So those are the play in games
and the odds in the Eastern Conference, the imbalance in
the Eastern Conference. The Celtics are overwhelming favorites. Then it's
the Sixers. The Sixers were in the play in game.
Now they meet the number two Nicks and they're the
second favorite odds wise. Then it's the Bucks. Then it's
(05:02):
the Knicks, Calves, Pacers, and that's your East. The imbalance
of the Eastern Conference. Yes, seedons. Celtics have been in
first place all season. Yeah for years. It feels like
uh fair, yeah yeah, But this is one of those
there and we've talked about that, you know, this phenomenon
of we don't care what you do during the regular season.
(05:25):
You're one of those teams that we look at and
go what you do in the postseason? Dallas Cowboys, Hey,
thirteen wins, what are you going to do in the postseason?
The Celtics, Hey, great, great regular season, What are you
going to do in the postseason, and we've seen that
more and more Buffalo Bills. You know, Okay, great regular season,
what are you going to do in the playoffs? And
that's where we are, certainly with the Boston Celtics. It
(05:47):
feels like there's no excuse for them to not make
it to the NBA Finals. The question is how many
games will it take you to get there? How many?
How many losses would Boston have before they get to
the NBA Finals. I can't see too many. I mean,
that's a really good team and the East is all
banged up right now. The West, that's where it's going
(06:09):
to be a little more challenging here. And I give
the Lakers a puncher's chance here. It's not one of
those where and it feels like everybody said the same,
oh Lakers, no chance. Well you do have a chance.
I mean you got Lebron and a d you know,
you know a team that doesn't have a chance. The Warriors,
(06:30):
they don't have a chance. Actually true, they're out. Here's
Steve Kerr talking about the Golden State Warriors moving forward.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I think we can put together a very good team
and you know, start to transition, you know, towards the
next era because it's clearly in our sights. But at
the same time, Stephen, Draymond, and Clay and Chris, they're
all they're all still very good players. But as we
are right now, we're not a championship team. We know
that we're not even in the playoffs, so we can't
(06:59):
we can't say we're a title contendent.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's Golden State's head coach Steve Kerr on k NBR.
What's noncommittal. It's like everybody said the right thing after
they lost Steph saying, yeah, we want to have Clay back,
you know, Draymond, Hey, we want to have Clay back. Okay,
do you really feel that? And at what price? Like
you know, there has to be an asterisk by this, Hey,
we'd love to have him back. But everybody has to
(07:22):
say the right thing. Steve Kerr can't come out and say,
you know what, Clay is really falling off a cliff
or Clay, you know, Steph comes out and says something,
or Draymond. They do have They've sprinkled in some younger players,
so they could probably put it all back in the
blender one more time, which is what I would do.
(07:44):
I think this is an organization that's been very fair
to the players. When Clay went out with the injury,
they gave him, they extended him, They kept Draymond through
all of his nonsense. They paid Steph. You know, the
James Wiseman draft pick was terrible, but they have I
ate some pretty good picks. I'd keep it together. I'd
have one more run with this and I'd bring Clay
(08:05):
back for two more years. But it's not my money,
not my team, and I don't have to worry about
the luxury tax. But until you see some concrete evidence
of they truly want Klay Thompson back, and look, I
think he can still be a contributor. He's not the
second best player on your team, and I think you
(08:25):
can be fair to him. You want him to retire
a Golden State Warrior, you want Draymond to retire. I
get it. And this is what you franchises have to
deal with all the time when you have something special.
How long do you wait? Can you wait or do
you just ride it out and say, let's be fair
to those players. I've seen it both ways. I've seen
(08:48):
it work both ways. But with Golden State, I would
keep Clay. I would bring him back, Draymond. Hopefully you
get a chance to talk to him so he doesn't
go crazy again, stupid things again. I mean, Steve Kurrz
got a lot of work ahead of him to be
able to figure this out. What role because Clay didn't
(09:09):
go quietly to the bench, He went kind of pouting.
Now you've got to say to Clay, Clay, you're not
a starter on this team, but you're a contributor on
this team. Draymond may not be a starter, but you're
a contributor. Are you all in? But that would be
the approach I would have with Golden State, Yeah, Poem, I.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Could see the Warriors management being a little harsh with
Clay Thompson saying, look, we're going to need you to
take a big haircut here. We're going to give you
two years at a very low price, or you could
test the market, which I don't think he would like
to do. He played two years for them, I should
say he didn't play two years for them, and he
got his full salary. They paid him eighty million dollars
to not touch the ball for two years. They've been
(09:50):
more than fair to him. I know injuries happened, but
this guy has been well taken care of by that franchise.
I would be a little terse with him.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, I would just give him a dose of reality, yeah,
to say this is what I said this before. I
would go to Steph Curry. I'd say, Steph, me and you,
let's talk. What do you want? You tell me what
do you want or what do you not want? And
it stays between us, just you and me. Let's talk
(10:17):
about this because as we move forward, I want you happy.
You're the franchise and I want you to help me
make decisions that make this better for you. You want
Clay back? You want clay back at this price? Do
you want us to try to entertain a trade for Draymond?
Who would you like to see us bring in? Those
(10:39):
would be hard questions I would ask Steph Curry. I'd
give him the ultimate respect of saying, here you go,
you're going to help me be a GM here all right?
Poll question seton what are we going to go with today?
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Well, I was going to start with quarterbacks taken in
the first round of the NFL Draft, three or less,
four or more in the first round in the first round. Oh,
I mean I could do the first three picks or
four picks if you want, Well, I can't, that can't
be four more.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But how about we do five or less quarterbacks in
the first round? Five or less? Well, we know there's
going to be four.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's four gone conclusion. There's
no drama to that. Yeah. Yeah, so five you think
there'll be five? If I gave the over under five
and a half.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
Five and a half quarterbacks taken in the first round,
you're taking the over or under, Okay, and that's a push.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah. I guess based on the information I got last night,
I would say there's gonna be six quarterbacks taken in
the first round. Now, this this happens in a lot
of drops. Yeah, see four in the first four picks. Yeah,
seems excessive. It's never happened before, right, that has the
Cardinals taking one or trading out, right, they'll trade out?
Speaker 9 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, So Minnesota, the Raiders, the Giants, maybe Seattle. Like
there's a couple of teams where you go, Wow, didn't
expect them Broncos in there. Rams. Maybe there's always an
outlier where you go, I'll be damn. You know, they
went out and got him because somebody is seeing something
in one of these players and you go, we got
(12:19):
to go get him. And you saw this with Kansas
City years ago with Mahomes. They knew it. They went up,
they got him, and Sean Payton doesn't want that to
happen again because it happened to him when he was
in New Orleans. They were going to take Patrick Mahomes,
Kansas City went up, leapfrogged them, and then they ended
up taking Marshawn Lattimore.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Yes, points, and there could be a team that nobody
has taking a quarterback. What was it six five years
ago when Green Bay took Jordan Love, You know that
was a shocker, or the whole draft they were You
could look back at the mock drafts. They all had
wide receiver, wide receiver for Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well yeah, and I'm sure Aaron Rodgers had wide receiver,
wide receiver. To god, could you imagine that You're just
sitting there watching He's got his tequila three fingers, I
think are four fingers of tequila and he's looking now,
you guys know what that means with three fingers, four
fingers with tequila. So the poor when you say, oh,
(13:16):
you know, give me four fingers, I pick a line
on the glass and just pour it up. Yeah, but
that's kind of what it is. If you put your
four fingers up there, that's where the level is. When
you get four fingers.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Throw a thumb every once in a while, rough week.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Marvin's amount of tequila in his class is not as high.
We're starting like that. I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry
first Jamal Crawford. Now there's I know, but I feel
I still think that you needed to be, you know,
put in the corner and giving a time out. After
the Jamal Crawford thing, I mean, one of the top
five or ten most exciting players.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Of all time, no one puts Marvi in the corner.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I know, I'm gonna put Marvi in the corner.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, Paul, We're going to bring back the sound of
you and Marvin and Jamal Crawford because from what I recall,
we had the top five most exciting. And then I
throw out there, who's that next tier? And I figuredt
like Jason Williams White Chocolate and like other players like that,
and Marvin jumped in with Jamal Crawford. Can you make
the case at.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We even missed doctor J in the initial drive by,
like you know, it was one of those where, like
you know, Caitlin Clark is in their top five most
exciting or dynamic players. And then all of a sudden,
we're going, okay, who are the other players? Magic's in
there and Michael's in there. All of a sudden, it's
like people are going, uh, hello, how about doctor J. Yes,
(14:36):
Doctor J. Dominique Wilkin. I mean, there's so many players
who played the game at a not only a high level,
but an interesting exciting level. And Jamal Crawford wonderful shooter,
instant offense, not one. Give me the signature, Jamal Crawford.
Move moment for you, Marvin, all the great memories.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
See Jamal Crawford was what I like to call a
sound effects guy, Like, oh I saw Jamal Crawford have
been the topic key what crossover? Crossover jumper? Okay, we're
gonna go to YouTube. We're gonna you know what, radio
just doesn't do him justice.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Mark Price was more exciting. I just said it. Mark
Price crossover. I know, Mark Price crossover.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Wait Mark Price from Rutger, because you don't mean Mark
Price from the Cleveland Cavalia. Yes, Mike Price, Mark Price,
DeMarcus Price. I know DeMarcus Price.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, Jamal Crawford is going to be exciting to know
that you have him as one of the most dynamic
players who have ever played the game of basketball. Let's go. Yeah,
it's Friday's good stuffs, Friday. It is Friday, all right?
When when we come back, we're gonna play the quarterback
draft game? Okay?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Is that what we're going to do? Paul, I don't
know if we're already yet on this. Okay, we're workshopping.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, So is it a great draft or shake you draft?
Is that what we're playing?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I sent you a very bad draft and a very
good draft in the recent memory. There's a lot of
quarterbacks being taken.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
In okay, So twenty twenty versus twenty twenty one. Okay,
so that's good and really bad.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
And later we're playing a game we played it the
past two years where the four of us will pick
the quarterback and the team that drafts and keeps them
in the first round this year.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So who's not involved in this? If you say you
four are going to.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
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All right, let me take a break, all right, let
me get thank you. Got phone calls coming up. We'll
get to those as well. To meet Friday the great album,
Michael's gonna stop by the exciting Dynamic. Jamal Crawford is
going to join us as well. We're back after this.
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coming up, poll question Seaton before we get to Jamal Crawford.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Well, we're gonna throw up there player with the most
pressure in the NBA Playoffs, Damian Lillard, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brunts,
and Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, most pressure. Well, let me start there with Jamal Crawford,
the Turner Sports NBA analyst and three times sixth Man
of the Year. Award winner, Great to see you again.
Jamal player. Who has the most pressure on him in
the playoffs is.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Oh damn, that's a good one. I would say, I
will say the most pressure, but I will say is
the person who could probably change their legacy a lot more,
It's probably Kevin Durant. I think a lot of people
give him a lot of crap for the Golden State move,
even though he was the finals MVP. You know for
both years they won the championship. So I would love
(19:28):
to see those guys win it because I think for
a lot of people it would make him look, make
them look his career totally different.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
We don't even talk about the Phoenix Suns as being threatening.
Why is that?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Because they know so up and down throughout the year,
but they're really built for the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I see him with them now.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
When when Durant first came, they were using their individual
talents and it's more off the flow of the offense.
And then they went through a rocky patch where it
looked like there was more a little disjoin it. That
does seems like they're getting back. Bradley Bill has been great.
Is the third option. This time he's the first option.
Whise out there, I think is good for the playoffs.
They could have a deep, deep breath.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think Jason Tatum has the most pressure because they've
been to the finals before. They look like they got
an easy path in the Eastern Conference with everybody injured.
You know, we were waiting for the Joker to win
his title. He won his title. I would say Embiide
has a lot of pressure, but he's coming back after
the injury. But I would think the Celtics and Tatum
(20:27):
probably have as much pressure than anybody else.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
They've definitely set it up that way with Tatum accomplishes
so much at a young age, and then you look
at the Celtics. They're five and the top six terrific
all year always hit the Celtics. The biggest the plomment
could be themselves because when they're up fifteen or twenty,
they're like Mike Tyson, I'll knock you out balls topic
everything's working. When the tight games to make their reserve
(20:53):
back to kind of join the one on one and
the ball slows down, the game blogs down, and that's
their biggest Acidi killing me as trust with the game
for the Titans.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How much pressure is on Jalen Brunson. You played in
New York, what four or five years? They're playing Philadelphia,
they're the number two seed. How much pressure.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
I don't think there's a lot of pressure on them.
I think, honestly it'll be the other guys who step
up that can help him and help the team. If
I'm a team, I'm not letting rustlings play one on
one game after the game after it's crew to can
beat you. So I'm sure they'll see different coaches, bigger defenders,
double teams, and he has to get rid of the
ball from those. The other guys consistently make shots. I
(21:32):
ain't got to be the difference between the next making
a big runner out. They already overteeved the number two
seed with with their hurts.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Pressure on here.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We had a discussion on the show and we were
talking about the most entertaining players in NBA history. I
don't know if you heard about it, but I did
not hear about that. Okay, your your name came up, uh,
one of our dan Ets, Marvin. But in fact, here
was the here's the here's the conversation, Jamal. Just so
(22:03):
you know, full transparency, not trying to hide anything. This
is our back and forth?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yes, Martin not a great player, but entertaining Jamal Crawford, Yeah,
he's not in there. Jamal Crawford's not entertaining.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Not with these guys. I mean, you're gonna die on
that hill alone. Come to my funeral. No, Jamal's not
even gonna die on that hill with entertaining, entertaining. Great
Jamal Crawford was a great shooter, great ball handling, great shooter,
great shooter. Wasn't good enough to start, Okay, okay, So
(22:46):
who were you mad at? Are you mad at me?
Speaker 9 (22:50):
I'm not mad at at all, but I'm rolling with Marvin.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm okay, all right, So you're on the hill with Marvin. Okay,
this is what we did. So we had Tim Legler
on and he said, Aitlyn Clark's one of the top
five most entertaining players, and you're throwing in Kobe, you're
throwing in Mike, throwing in magic. Uh, doctor J. And
then Marvin brought up your name as the next group,
(23:16):
and I said, no that I didn't say that you
weren't great, but it's like, are you more entertaining than
Dominique Wilkins.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
No, No, that wouldn't entertained that all right, you can
see why you looked at them crazy after that list
of names.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And I get, yeah, okay, but I just want you
to know you were instant offense. Marvin is showing me
YouTube clips here reminding me Ali Oop to Blake Griffin
and breaking people down off the dribble. I got that.
Are you more entertaining than White Chocolate.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
No, I think we're in the same rare Okay, yeah,
I'm a White Sookler fan. I think you have some
of the best handles that. But I always say we're
in the same real stars to take.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay, uh, who else would you put in there? Most
entertaining players of like Vince Carter is in there, most entertained,
h Penny Hardaway Iverson. There are so many players that are.
I mean, it's not it's not a negative to not
make that, you know, top ten, Leves.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Yeah, Trace McGrady. I think Kitty
Shaq is entertainment like there was obviously Kobe's box Office,
and there's so many people. I think Mack mood Up
your roof is entertained. I think Nick fan Axel was.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
There's a lot of guys for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Days mock Mood. It felt like he had that first
crossover that I remember. I know Hardaway got credit for,
you know, having a great but mock Mood at the
when he was at LSU, he was scaring LEVI the
nation scoring.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
Yeah, I talked to Shack, he said at l s
U he looked at mack Mood. Chris Chris Jackson at
the time like a god. He was like, I was
scared to talk to him because he was that big
on campus.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Absolutely, but that was that was a crossover move.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yes, yes, this ball fakes after he shout it. The
way his quick release, the way he embarrassed the fingers
is foot work. He absolutely were most inertated.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What was it like though, when you go into a
game and you're expected to score and like, so there's
pressure that this is what you do. One of the
best six men in the history of the sport, but
that I got to turn it on as soon as
I get in while everybody else has been playing for
you know, a few minutes.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
It was definitely fun because you have that freedom, but
it was pressure. I look at it like maybe a
kickoff return guy. You know, he can run deep every
time they're just loaded up from the ends. All we
know he's gonna get back. You still have to.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Find your way.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
So for me, I was actually playing the game while
on the bench. I'm watching the game. Oh they're playing
this with this coverage. Oh okay, they're doing that. They
already took away from Chris took menition JJ. I have
to absolutely counter it before I have to use it.
So I was playing the mental game of putting myself
in the game while I was on the bench, and
I think that helped me have some success.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And then I tricked myself that I was Superman. Come in, Superman.
I'm gonna say that. I just had a heightened confidence.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
And for me, once I got in that role, Uh,
it's some magic happened at times.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
All right, Well, we wanted to have you on talk
a little NBA, but we also wanted to have you
on to make sure you understood that full you know,
transparency here that we called you a great player. I
just didn't have you as one of the most entertaining
players of all time.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
See, I have it flipped for me. I think I'm
more entertaining than great. So I think there's definitely an
entertaining volume there.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Wait, you want to be when I played? I okay, wait,
so you want to be entertaining not great?
Speaker 9 (26:55):
No, I think I was closer to entertaining than great.
I thought it wasn't great, but I think I was
really good at what I did, and I think I
was entertaining part. I think it's kind of denial. So
I'm on that hill with Marvin.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Maybe you could give him your Maybe you could give
him your New York Nick Jersey there behind you. That'd
be a nice parting gift that Marvin is dying on
the dying on that hill with you. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Hey, Jamal, I always say you were one of those
sound effects guys. Like when somebody's describing Jamal Crawford, a
krafft will go to the top of the key, hah,
what Like you were one of those guys.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
Mark, when I see people on the street, they try
to do my own move on me unpractices, move forever
they try to do.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I know it's coming, but that part is part of
the entertained to guy for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's great. Uh, You're one of our favorites. Thank you, Jamal,
Thanks for joining us. That's Jamal Crawford Turner, sports NBA
analyst and uh former sixth Man of the Year won
it three times. All righty, Marv, So I'm surprised. Would
you rather be more entertaining or great? Greater or entertaining
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or great? Yeah? Entertaining or greater or entertaining? Marvin? What
about you? Greater instead of entertaining or.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Yeah, Paulie, Sometimes great's about accomplishments and winning, right, It's
more and more of a judgment. Vince Carter was entertaining, Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Would you rather be Vince Carter or Tim Duncan. Everybody
was going there, Come on, we all know what Vince
Carter or Tim Duncan.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
I think you got to pick someone who won a
little less. Vince.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, but that's being great as opposed to being entertaining entertaining,
didn't win.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
I gotta go Tim Duncan because his name is still
out there.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So you don't want to be entertaining, Todd.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Clearly Paul doesn't want to be entertaining perman half for decades.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yea in everyday life, Todd, what about you?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I would be more entertaining and then maybe I get
cameos on TV shows and move reason. You could kind
of parlay that into other fun stuff away from the court,
because you're that interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Seeking What about you entertaining or great man?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Winning is pretty pretty great, Goda admit, but I think
I'd rather be entertaining.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So you'd rather be Vince Carter than Tim Duncan.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
When I look at like Alan Iverson, all of my
favorite players are the most entertaining guys, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Okay, who would be the point guard comp for would
you rather be Tony Park because I'd rather be Iverson
somebody who won Stockton didn't win, Yeah, Paul Joe.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Dumars or Allan Iverson, Alan Ison, but Mars has what
two titles?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, Isaiah Thomas. Although although Zeke was entertaining, yeah, but
he wasn't as entertaining. I mean, Iverson was, you know, unique.
But I think going back to would you rather be
Vince Carter Tim Duncan? What do we need to do
that to Tim?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
For?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I don't I think Tim. I think Tim would. Jimmy
would be fine with this. He would be like, yeah,
I take Vince Carter too, like Chauncey Billups.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Or Joe Flacco or Michael Vick.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, I think I might take Michael well.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Take way to off field, just the playing career and
not getting close to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You know, Michael Vick is like iverson is you know,
it's like man, that dude was different Joseph Joe Johnson, Yeah,
Joe Johnson or yes time.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
My test is, hey, that's Mike Vick over there, as
opposed to say, hey, Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Come over here with tips?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Who are you more excited to see if you run
into them in the street?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Is how I would decide something.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Like, okay, all right, whose career you'd want?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You're gonna get excited to get an autographrom what picture?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
With Steven Seattle on the topic, Hi Steve, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Well?
Speaker 11 (30:59):
I just want to and let's talk about most exciting duos.
And they were both great Sean Camp and Gary Payton
did playing together in the nineties for the Sonics. Doesn't
get much better than that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, Sean was entertaining and at times was the best
player on the floor. In fact, when the Bulls played
Seattle in the NBA Finals, there were two players on
the Bulls who said Shawn Camp's has player on the floor.
Didn't say it publicly, but they did say it privately.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
I know didn't say it. Number twenty three.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Mike was not going to say that, but yeah, Sean
Kemp was entertaining man, and there have been a lot
of those players, but entertaining or great. I was surprised
though that Jamal said that he's closer to being entertaining
than he is great. All right, let me take a break.
More phone calls coming up, and next hour he is
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entertaining and he is great. He's Al Michaels. He'll join
us on the program back after this.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
By the way, we mentioned Bob Yuker on the show.
Word got to Bob Yuker. Bob Yuker reaches out to
me and he said, what am I missing? And I
said nothing. We just mentioned your name and he said, oh,
is everything good? I go yeah, And I think he
thought I was checking in on him. I did it
one time and he said, are you checking on me
to see if I'm still alive? I said no, but
(32:31):
I'm glad you are. So the great Bob Uker did
reach out late yesterday. All right, we'll get to more
phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP show.
He's a Hall of Famer. He's Al Michaels Thursday Night
Football play by play on Amazon. Al great to see
again Hal's morale.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm so happy to fill this window of opportunity for you.
As always. It's so funny you mentioned Bob Yucker, and
I know when you promoted the fact that I was
going to be on the show, you called me Albino.
But that was the name Dennis Miller gave to me.
(33:10):
I much prefer Alfalfa, which is the name Bob Yuker
gave to me in nineteen eighty two and was stolen
by Howard Kosell.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, you go back to Yuker and the Miller like
commercials and how when he was on with Johnny Carson,
and like he was killing it when he was on
with Carson.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I think Johnny Carson actually said at one point, maybe
he wrote about it in a book that he put
Yuker I think in the top five of the people
he loved to interview. I think Don Rickles would be
in there too. I mean, Don Rickles is clearly the
funniest man I have ever met. And Bob Yuker, I
mean he's right in that pantheon. I mean, Yuker would
(33:51):
come you know, I think I've told you the story before,
but I was doing the game with Yucker and Cosell
in the early eighties, and you know, Howard wanted a
bunt in a situation where you'd never bunt, and Yuker's
trying to talk him off of it, but you know,
very softly and kindly, and Howard's going to play with
him again. And he says, all right, y you don't
(34:12):
have to be so truculent. You do know a truculent
means don't ship, and without hesitation, Yuker says, how and
of course if you had a truck and I borrowed it,
it would be a truculent. And not only was Yuker funny,
but Yuka was quick. He was you know, somebody would
say something in a second later. Bengo.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I love that he said, you know, catching a knuckleballs easy,
you just wait till it stops rolling, right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
And also, I mean he had so many grave lines.
You know, there was a five thousand dollars bonus that
was offered when he signed. He said, well, my father
couldn't afford that much. So I love Bob.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
You.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I just loved the guy.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Did you ever meet Johnny Carson?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I met him very briefly at a restaurant. I was
never on his show. Well, no, I would have loved
it at that point, but I know that, you know,
our good buddy Bob Costas. One of his the things
that he wanted to do before his career was over
to get on the Carson Show. And I think he
did that last week. But no, I just met him
once in a restaurant. End the story.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, let me set up the premise because we
thought of you, the most greatest player in sports history,
so we created, you know, a new phrase here, the
most greatest players, because we were talking about Wayne Gretzky.
You know, when you look at dominance in your sport,
eight Heart trophies, I mean, what he did is ruthian
(35:39):
in his sport. But if you were going to give
me your top five most greatest players in sports history,
you know, depending on whatever sport you want to pick, well.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know it's funny because ESPN at the end of
the twentieth century nineteen ninety nine, they did the thirty
for thirty and they picked the top one hundred athletes
of the twenty century. And I was on a panel
and I had to pick them one through one hundred.
It was hard because you know, there were so many.
I actually went with Jim Thorpe because there was no
(36:10):
television start of the century. Multiple Olympic medalist, gold medalist,
played professional baseball, played professional football. But you know, pre
television age, radio was still in its infancy. But you're
right about now. You mentioned the two people who I
thought about to Babe Ruth, who, of course, would you
know one year, I think nineteen twenty one, he had
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fifty nine home runs. So the league that I get
something by twenty four. So it was, you know, we
pretty much like Gretzky. Wayne was the same way. You know,
Wayne would lead the leading goals by a margin of
two and a half to one. So I put you know,
Wayne in there, Ruth. Certainly, now you get to basketball
and so many you know, I look, I go back
(36:52):
when I'm in high school. I saw Elgin Baylor play
Elgin Baylor. Was Michael Jordan Before Michael Jordan used to
games played so differently that point. So you had Michael,
I love you. Living in la I saw a ton
of Kobe, and I mean I got to put Kobe
right up there next to Michael. You can argue that
till your death is who was the better guy for
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the most part, would say Michael, but they were both
off the charge fantastic. I think for football there were
so many great quarterbacks, but I for my football player,
believe it or not, I put in Jerry Rice because
Rice did the same thing to the record book that
Gretzky and Ruth did. He was so much better than
everybody at that particular time. And while we're on the
(37:36):
subject of Gretzky, I have to say something to you, Dan,
because you know a lot of people obviously don't follow hockey,
but as a hockey maniac, Conor McDavid of the Edmonton Oilers,
without question the best player I've seen since Wayne. And
I know it's heresy to say is he better than Wayne?
But I ran into Grant Fewer, who was the goaliade
(37:58):
on those Edmonton teams in the eighty so he would know.
And I said to Grant, I said, Grant, I said,
it's heresy. Is McDavid better than Gretzky. He had a
great answer. He said, not yet. Oh well, he said,
he said, Wayne made everybody around him better. But McDavid
is I love what you know. I watch that like
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you know, on the NHL plus whatever it is network,
just to see him play anyway, So there you would
have me. And then if you're only talking about teams,
you know you're eliminating like boxers. I think Muhammad Ali
actually won that thing, by the way, if a if
a memory serves.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, Jordan won it?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Did Jordan win it? And where did I leave that
had to finish in the top of career?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
So I think Secretariat was up there. Wow, yes, and
all all people were so upset me because I hosted that.
Each week i'd reveal you know who was number seventeen.
And I remember when we revealed that secretary it was
one of the top fifty athletes of all time. Oh,
(39:03):
people went through the roof. Paul, you have the top five.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah, the top five ESPN's greatest North American athletes, Michael Jordan,
Babe Ruth, Muhammad Ali, Jim Brown, Wayne Gretzky. Then it
goes to Jesse Owens, Jim Thorpe.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I would put Jackie Robinson. There. I think Jackie is
the greatest athlete of all time for this reason. I'm
going to add importance there, what he went through to
do what he was doing. Baseball wasn't his best sport.
He could have played football. He played football at UCLA,
ran track, so he was also a basketball player at UCLA.
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So if I look at all four sports that he
might have been able to play professionally. And by the
way you played in baseball, you broke the color barrier.
You had teammates who didn't even want you on the
field at that time, and you became a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah. I mean, again, there's no question as to the
importance of Jackie Robinson and what he meant. But again,
you go into this barroom argument. And by the way,
why is it why is it called the bar room stayingway?
I mean, you're in the barroom, right, me in the
bar right. I always loved that phrasey barroom argument.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
And it's a barroom brawl.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
It's a bar it's a barroom brawl.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, bar brawl.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, where did that start? Yeah? I mean in terms
of significance and what he's meant to sports and what
he meant to in the sports intertwined with society and
and a lot of everything else. You know, Robinson is there,
but then a you know, somebody's got to be number one,
so pick your number one, and uh, Jordan's a good answer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I remember we were trying to get him to do
an interview. And this is right up to the very end.
We're trying to get Jordan to sit down and do
an interview. They want to put together his his moment,
and Mike didn't want to do it. And I remember
at the time, Tim Duncan was playing in the Ends
(41:01):
and he wanted to know who was going to be
the number one person. He gets done, he just beat
the Knicks. He comes into the interview room because I said, look,
if you win the NBA title, I'll tell you. He
gets he just won the title. He walks in, he
goes Who's number one? And I go, well, you guys
are He goes, no, who's number one? And I said
Michael Jordan and then he goes okay like that. For
(41:23):
some reason, he really wanted to know. But I you know,
Mike doesn't like reflecting back. He doesn't do a lot
of these interviews. I mean, he did the Last Dance,
and I think the Last Dance felt like it was
a reminder to those who think Lebron or Kobe, these
other modern day players are on his level. I think
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that's part of the reason why he did that documentary.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think he knew
at that point, because I mean, nobody really knew that
they were doing that, and they're they're behind the scenes
footage and the audio was you you watched it and went, Wow,
where'd they get that? How'd they do that? So he
knew what he had in mind for maybe his legacy.
(42:09):
But you're right, he did very few interws, as did Kobe.
Kobe didn't do that many interviews either during that period
of time, so they were very selective.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
He's al Michael was the Hall of Famer. Do you
remember your first NFL game that you called?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I certainly do so. I'm doing the Cincinnati Reds during
the baseball season, and then NBC called me in nineteen
seventy one, my first year was Cincinnati and said, can
you do a regional NFL game on October third, nineteen
seventy one. We want you to go to Minnesota and
do Buffalo against Minnesota, and in those years that the
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home team was blacked out, so it wasn't even shown
in Minneapolis. He only went to Buffalo. It's during the
baseball playoffs, which was why I got the job. He's
Kurt Gowdy and Jim Simpson were doing the that year,
so Jay Randolph moved to number one and I came
in to do the last game. So not only does
it only go to Buffalo, it doesn't even go to
(43:08):
the regular NBC station, It goes to a UHEF station
in Buffalo. So Minnesota wins the game nineteen to nothing.
Bud Gramt was the coach and in that game, OJ
Simpson was the running backs and al Cowlings was a
defensive lineman in that game. You can look it up.
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So that's how I broke in. And then two weeks
later I did the Buffalo at the Jets at Chase Stadium,
same kind of thing. New York is blackdown, it's during
the baseball postseason. So I go all the way back
to nineteen seventy one doing my first NFL game.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Toughest sport or how about the easiest sport to do?
Play by player?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
The easiest. Well, I built my career around baseball, So
it was so comfortable, and it's a different it's a
different sport to do. Obviously you have some time. It's
more relaxing and all, you know. So, I mean baseball
was easy for me, and then a ton of football.
You know, I've done nine hundred NFL games now and
probably a couple hundred college games, so you know, I
(44:15):
get how to do football. Hockey is the hardest, without question.
Hockey on radio is the hardest because if you're in
your car, you can picture a baseball game. This team
is back, this team's in the field. In football, this
team has the ball. This team is on defense. The basketball,
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you know a lot of turnovers. You know has the
ball in hockey, the change of possession is so quick
and so rapid, and people, you know, you don't get
to see, like if you have you're a fan of
the Rangers, but they're playing Winnipeg. You know, you know
who your guys are. You have no idea who the
other guys are. So I think you know guys who
(44:56):
do hockey on radio very well. A great deal of
respect for me because I think it's the toughest.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
How's your eyesight?
Speaker 3 (45:06):
My eyesight is pretty good. We're a daily contact lens
in my right eye.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
But you have to have a good eyesight to do
play by play, don't you You do?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Oh for sure. But again, these days, the coverage is
so great that I think very often you're calling the
game off the monitor because you can see the game
a lot better off the monitor than you can if
you're sitting in a high up Some of the broadcast
(45:37):
vantage points are great, like Kansas City, even New York.
You're kind of like right over the field and you
feel like you're right there. And then you get to
other places where you like in the top of the
upper deck. I remember Caniblestick Park when the forty nine
Ers played there. The football broadcast routh was so high.
I once said, I couldn't resist my I said, you're
(45:58):
actually looking down on the blimp. I mean, it was ridiculous.
So you had to call the game off the monitor.
And in those years, you know, I try to. You
try to do it both ways. I try to, you know,
watch how they're lined up with my naked eye, see
it the play begins, then do you go to the monitor,
bea You're going to see it a lot better off
the monitor.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, I always admired what Doc Emrick did to tremendous
but to do it on TV where it's so fast paced,
but you don't have to describe all the action because
you want to be fair to the audience that you
don't say everything that you see. But when it comes
to radio, and that's the tricky part of you can
(46:39):
see it, I don't have to say it. But what
am I going to say to kind of compliment what
you're watching? How difficult was that for you at any time?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Well, you know, I didn't do that much hockey because.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Any sport, though, like you're we get to see and
you assume your audience is knowledgeable, and then how much
do you tell them what they're actually seeing?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well, first of all, I mean there's there's a difference
between announcing a football you're on television and on radio.
On radio, you need to use every verb. Nobody can
see anything. On television. I talk about very often using
captions and ellipses. You see the play, you don't have
to necessarily use the verb because the verb becomes a
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visual to the fan. So in football, and same thing
basically in baseball, and roughly the same in basketball, hockey,
is a different animal because in hockey, you know, and
doc Emick had it down perfectly. He almost did a
radio call on television, not exactly, but you know, you
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want to keep up with the pace of the pace
of the game is so fast and back and forth
and change of possession, almost scoring. So it's pretty hockey
would be the closest to combining radio and television. The
other sports are vastly.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Differentould you rather be great or entertaining?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Well? I think I think they go hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Dan, Well, let's say you could be Vince carter YEP
or Tim duncan.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Good question. Hmmm, I'd like to be a hybrid. That's
not an answer. Ould no, no, who had well? Who
had the better career? I mean Jim, Yeah, for sure,
no question about it. And it's funny because you know
what reminded me of Tim Pete Samprass. And I remember
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once after Pete retired, and you know, Pete lives out
here and I played a lot of Goblin through the years.
We were walking down the fairway at one point a
couple of years after we retired, and he was a
little worried about becoming not as relevant in retirement. And
I said to him, you remind me of Tim Duncan.
I think you'll only be appreciate it to the fullest
(49:02):
extent after you're gone. And they were the same kind
of people, right, not necessarily gregarious, obviously are entertaining, but tremendous, tremendous.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
You didn't answer the question. Now you don't answer the question.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Vince Carter Duncan. What can I tell you? Yeah, Duncan
went Championships O. Vince was Vince was great to watch.
But you know, Duncan, I mean, what are you playing
the game for it? You're playing the game to win
the game, and you know, look at Duncan's record, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Great to talk to you, hopefully we didn't, you know,
slow down your golf game today.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Listen. I have to tell you one thing. The last
golf tip you gave.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Me Johnny Miller.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Johnny Miller, Johnny Miller. So it worked for about three holes.
But then the problem right now is when I try
to put it in my head, what I do is
I go Johnny.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Miller mill or slow down your swing? Yes, thank you, al,
great to talk to you, buddy man.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I'll be good.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
That's uh, that's al Michaels
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We did it. We made it to a Friday. It's
a meat Friday. It's hour one. What a great smell.
Got out of my car, walked into the tragerville and
there it was garlic bread, bacon, rosotto, smoked Tuscan chicken
otherwise known as mary meat chicken. Have you heard about this?
(00:25):
That if you want somebody to get engaged, you make
the merry meat chicken. It's that good. So we're whipping
that up on the triggers. Who has it better than
we do?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Nobody?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
All right, pull question, play of the day, stat of
the day, all of that coming up. The great Al
Michaels a little bit later on, and former NBA guard
and a player that Marvin thinks is one of the
five most exciting players who have ever played basketball, Jamal Crawford.
Are you going to tell Jamal that you think he's
one of the top five most exciting players?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
You guys didn't say five, You guys said the most
exciting players. And he's in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, but you put him in the conversation of most
exciting players. Absolutely, Okay, all right, you're going to die
on that hill, aren't you You're going to be You're
going to be alone on that hill.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Love.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Jamal Crawford not one of the more dynamic, exciting players
an NBA history, basketball history. All right, eight seven seven three.
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six days until the NFL Draft. Spoke to a source
last night and I said, what do you have for me?
And he said, at first I thought that Michael Pennix
and Bo Nix would not be in the first round.
I said, okay, that's information. And then he says, but
(02:00):
the more research I do, the more people I talk to,
we're probably having six quarterbacks taken in the first round.
And that means that Michael Pennix Junior and bow Knicks
are moving on up. And that's how he described this.
He said, you're first four. They're probably going to be
the first four depending on if somebody trade, somebody gets squirrely,
(02:22):
somebody moves up. But he thinks that those four quarterbacks
are going to be taken, probably in the first four picks.
So then my source said, you know the Raiders, you
got to consider them with Michael Pennix. You know, do
the Rams want to move up Denver? What do they do?
So bow Knicks and Michael Pennix, according to a source,
not initially in his first round, but he said, after
(02:44):
talking to some people, I truly believe there's going to
be six quarterbacks taken in the first round. Sean Payton,
Bronco's head coach, talked about taking the right quarterback.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
You'd say, man, it sure looks like we have to
draft a quarterback, and yet it's got to be the
right fit, the right one. And if we had the
tip sheets as to who everyone else was taking, to
be easier to answer that question. And so that's the
puzzle here.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I've been saying this for a long long time. Don't
take a quarterback. Take the quarterback for you, And that's
what Sean Payton is saying. GMS make this mistake and
sometimes what happens is nobody's telling you the truth. For
the most part, or at least publicly. Now privately, you
might get some indications here, like you know, we like
him if he's there, and you'll hear gms or you'll
(03:35):
hear fellow scouts that they'll count things, you know if
he's there. Well, even if he's there, that doesn't mean
you're taking him, but you know, trying to work your
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the Bulls at the Heat Kings at the Pelicans according
to DraftKings. I've got the Bulls getting one and a
half against Miami Miami without Jimmy Butler, and I've got
the Kings giving one and a half to the Pelicans
(04:40):
in New Orleans. So those are the play in games
and the odds in the Eastern Conference, the imbalance in
the Eastern Conference. The Celtics are overwhelming favorites. Then it's
the Sixers. The Sixers were in the play in game.
Now they meet the number two Nicks and they're the
second favorite odds wise. Then it's the Bucks. Then it's
(05:02):
the Knicks, Calves, Pacers, and that's your East. The imbalance
of the Eastern Conference. Yes, seedons. Celtics have been in
first place all season. Yeah for years. It feels like
uh fair, yeah yeah, But this is one of those
there and we've talked about that, you know, this phenomenon
of we don't care what you do during the regular season.
(05:25):
You're one of those teams that we look at and
go what you do in the postseason? Dallas Cowboys, Hey,
thirteen wins, what are you going to do in the postseason?
The Celtics, Hey, great, great regular season, What are you
going to do in the postseason, and we've seen that
more and more Buffalo Bills. You know, Okay, great regular season,
what are you going to do in the playoffs? And
that's where we are, certainly with the Boston Celtics. It
(05:47):
feels like there's no excuse for them to not make
it to the NBA Finals. The question is how many
games will it take you to get there? How many?
How many losses would Boston have before they get to
the NBA Finals. I can't see too many. I mean,
that's a really good team and the East is all
banged up right now. The West, that's where it's going
(06:09):
to be a little more challenging here. And I give
the Lakers a puncher's chance here. It's not one of
those where and it feels like everybody said the same,
oh Lakers, no chance. Well you do have a chance.
I mean you got Lebron and a d you know,
you know a team that doesn't have a chance. The Warriors,
(06:30):
they don't have a chance. Actually true, they're out. Here's
Steve Kerr talking about the Golden State Warriors moving forward.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I think we can put together a very good team
and you know, start to transition, you know, towards the
next era because it's clearly in our sights. But at
the same time, Stephen, Draymond, and Clay and Chris, they're
all they're all still very good players. But as we
are right now, we're not a championship team. We know
that we're not even in the playoffs, so we can't
(06:59):
we can't say we're a title contendent.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's Golden State's head coach Steve Kerr on k NBR.
What's noncommittal. It's like everybody said the right thing after
they lost Steph saying, yeah, we want to have Clay back,
you know, Draymond, Hey, we want to have Clay back. Okay,
do you really feel that? And at what price? Like
you know, there has to be an asterisk by this, Hey,
we'd love to have him back. But everybody has to
(07:22):
say the right thing. Steve Kerr can't come out and say,
you know what, Clay is really falling off a cliff
or Clay, you know, Steph comes out and says something,
or Draymond. They do have They've sprinkled in some younger players,
so they could probably put it all back in the
blender one more time, which is what I would do.
(07:44):
I think this is an organization that's been very fair
to the players. When Clay went out with the injury,
they gave him, they extended him, They kept Draymond through
all of his nonsense. They paid Steph. You know, the
James Wiseman draft pick was terrible, but they have I
ate some pretty good picks. I'd keep it together. I'd
have one more run with this and I'd bring Clay
(08:05):
back for two more years. But it's not my money,
not my team, and I don't have to worry about
the luxury tax. But until you see some concrete evidence
of they truly want Klay Thompson back, and look, I
think he can still be a contributor. He's not the
second best player on your team, and I think you
(08:25):
can be fair to him. You want him to retire
a Golden State Warrior, you want Draymond to retire. I
get it. And this is what you franchises have to
deal with all the time when you have something special.
How long do you wait? Can you wait or do
you just ride it out and say, let's be fair
to those players. I've seen it both ways. I've seen
(08:48):
it work both ways. But with Golden State, I would
keep Clay. I would bring him back, Draymond. Hopefully you
get a chance to talk to him so he doesn't
go crazy again, stupid things again. I mean, Steve Kurrz
got a lot of work ahead of him to be
able to figure this out. What role because Clay didn't
(09:09):
go quietly to the bench, He went kind of pouting.
Now you've got to say to Clay, Clay, you're not
a starter on this team, but you're a contributor on
this team. Draymond may not be a starter, but you're
a contributor. Are you all in? But that would be
the approach I would have with Golden State, Yeah, Poem, I.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Could see the Warriors management being a little harsh with
Clay Thompson saying, look, we're going to need you to
take a big haircut here. We're going to give you
two years at a very low price, or you could
test the market, which I don't think he would like
to do. He played two years for them, I should
say he didn't play two years for them, and he
got his full salary. They paid him eighty million dollars
to not touch the ball for two years. They've been
(09:50):
more than fair to him. I know injuries happened, but
this guy has been well taken care of by that franchise.
I would be a little terse with him.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, I would just give him a dose of reality, yeah,
to say this is what I said this before. I
would go to Steph Curry. I'd say, Steph, me and you,
let's talk. What do you want? You tell me what
do you want or what do you not want? And
it stays between us, just you and me. Let's talk
(10:17):
about this because as we move forward, I want you happy.
You're the franchise and I want you to help me
make decisions that make this better for you. You want
Clay back? You want clay back at this price? Do
you want us to try to entertain a trade for Draymond?
Who would you like to see us bring in? Those
(10:39):
would be hard questions I would ask Steph Curry. I'd
give him the ultimate respect of saying, here you go,
you're going to help me be a GM here all right?
Poll question seton what are we going to go with today?
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Well, I was going to start with quarterbacks taken in
the first round of the NFL Draft, three or less,
four or more in the first round in the first round. Oh,
I mean I could do the first three picks or
four picks if you want, Well, I can't, that can't
be four more.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But how about we do five or less quarterbacks in
the first round? Five or less? Well, we know there's
going to be four.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh yeah, I mean that's that's four gone conclusion. There's
no drama to that. Yeah. Yeah, so five you think
there'll be five? If I gave the over under five
and a half.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
Five and a half quarterbacks taken in the first round,
you're taking the over or under, Okay, and that's a push.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah. I guess based on the information I got last night,
I would say there's gonna be six quarterbacks taken in
the first round. Now, this this happens in a lot
of drops. Yeah, see four in the first four picks. Yeah,
seems excessive. It's never happened before, right, that has the
Cardinals taking one or trading out, right, they'll trade out?
Speaker 9 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, So Minnesota, the Raiders, the Giants, maybe Seattle. Like
there's a couple of teams where you go, Wow, didn't
expect them Broncos in there. Rams. Maybe there's always an
outlier where you go, I'll be damn. You know, they
went out and got him because somebody is seeing something
in one of these players and you go, we got
(12:19):
to go get him. And you saw this with Kansas
City years ago with Mahomes. They knew it. They went up,
they got him, and Sean Payton doesn't want that to
happen again because it happened to him when he was
in New Orleans. They were going to take Patrick Mahomes,
Kansas City went up, leapfrogged them, and then they ended
up taking Marshawn Lattimore.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Yes, points, and there could be a team that nobody
has taking a quarterback. What was it six five years
ago when Green Bay took Jordan Love, You know that
was a shocker, or the whole draft they were You
could look back at the mock drafts. They all had
wide receiver, wide receiver for Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well yeah, and I'm sure Aaron Rodgers had wide receiver,
wide receiver. To god, could you imagine that You're just
sitting there watching He's got his tequila three fingers, I
think are four fingers of tequila and he's looking now,
you guys know what that means with three fingers, four
fingers with tequila. So the poor when you say, oh,
(13:16):
you know, give me four fingers, I pick a line
on the glass and just pour it up. Yeah, but
that's kind of what it is. If you put your
four fingers up there, that's where the level is. When
you get four fingers.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Throw a thumb every once in a while, rough week.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Marvin's amount of tequila in his class is not as high.
We're starting like that. I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry
first Jamal Crawford. Now there's I know, but I feel
I still think that you needed to be, you know,
put in the corner and giving a time out. After
the Jamal Crawford thing, I mean, one of the top
five or ten most exciting players.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Of all time, no one puts Marvi in the corner.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I know, I'm gonna put Marvi in the corner.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, Paul, We're going to bring back the sound of
you and Marvin and Jamal Crawford because from what I recall,
we had the top five most exciting. And then I
throw out there, who's that next tier? And I figuredt
like Jason Williams White Chocolate and like other players like that,
and Marvin jumped in with Jamal Crawford. Can you make
the case at.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
We even missed doctor J in the initial drive by,
like you know, it was one of those where, like
you know, Caitlin Clark is in their top five most
exciting or dynamic players. And then all of a sudden,
we're going, okay, who are the other players? Magic's in
there and Michael's in there. All of a sudden, it's
like people are going, uh, hello, how about doctor J. Yes,
(14:36):
Doctor J. Dominique Wilkin. I mean, there's so many players
who played the game at a not only a high level,
but an interesting exciting level. And Jamal Crawford wonderful shooter,
instant offense, not one. Give me the signature, Jamal Crawford.
Move moment for you, Marvin, all the great memories.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
See Jamal Crawford was what I like to call a
sound effects guy, Like, oh I saw Jamal Crawford have
been the topic key what crossover? Crossover jumper? Okay, we're
gonna go to YouTube. We're gonna you know what, radio
just doesn't do him justice.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Mark Price was more exciting. I just said it. Mark
Price crossover. I know, Mark Price crossover.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Wait Mark Price from Rutger, because you don't mean Mark
Price from the Cleveland Cavalia. Yes, Mike Price, Mark Price,
DeMarcus Price. I know DeMarcus Price.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, Jamal Crawford is going to be exciting to know
that you have him as one of the most dynamic
players who have ever played the game of basketball. Let's go. Yeah,
it's Friday's good stuffs, Friday. It is Friday, all right?
When when we come back, we're gonna play the quarterback
draft game? Okay?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Is that what we're going to do? Paul, I don't
know if we're already yet on this. Okay, we're workshopping.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, So is it a great draft or shake you draft?
Is that what we're playing?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I sent you a very bad draft and a very
good draft in the recent memory. There's a lot of
quarterbacks being taken.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
In okay, So twenty twenty versus twenty twenty one. Okay,
so that's good and really bad.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
And later we're playing a game we played it the
past two years where the four of us will pick
the quarterback and the team that drafts and keeps them
in the first round this year.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So who's not involved in this? If you say you
four are going to.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
You're gonna judge it. Unless you would like to play.
We open to place. It's your show.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Okay, oh, it is my show. That's right, got my
name on it. By the way, if you want this hoodie,
not this exact one, because this is mine, you can
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I'll give this away, give it away, give it away,
give it away. Now, we'd have to come up with
a reason for me to give you the shirt off
(17:04):
my back, but I do it.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
What if you order today an item you selected randomly
to get the one off your.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Back, Well, I'd be more than happy to take this off,
autograph it and give it to a listener.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Sauce stain on there.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, I don't you know, I do have I might
have some stuff on here. I'm used, yeah, yes, show used.
All right, let me take a break, all right, let
me get thank you. Got phone calls coming up. We'll
get to those as well. To meet Friday the great album,
Michael's gonna stop by the exciting Dynamic. Jamal Crawford is
going to join us as well. We're back after this.
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coming up, poll question Seaton before we get to Jamal Crawford.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Well, we're gonna throw up there player with the most
pressure in the NBA Playoffs, Damian Lillard, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brunts,
and Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, most pressure. Well, let me start there with Jamal Crawford,
the Turner Sports NBA analyst and three times sixth Man
of the Year. Award winner, Great to see you again.
Jamal player. Who has the most pressure on him in
the playoffs is.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Oh damn, that's a good one. I would say, I
will say the most pressure, but I will say is
the person who could probably change their legacy a lot more,
It's probably Kevin Durant. I think a lot of people
give him a lot of crap for the Golden State move,
even though he was the finals MVP. You know for
both years they won the championship. So I would love
(19:28):
to see those guys win it because I think for
a lot of people it would make him look, make
them look his career totally different.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
We don't even talk about the Phoenix Suns as being threatening.
Why is that?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Because they know so up and down throughout the year,
but they're really built for the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I see him with them now.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
When when Durant first came, they were using their individual
talents and it's more off the flow of the offense.
And then they went through a rocky patch where it
looked like there was more a little disjoin it. That
does seems like they're getting back. Bradley Bill has been great.
Is the third option. This time he's the first option.
Whise out there, I think is good for the playoffs.
They could have a deep, deep breath.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think Jason Tatum has the most pressure because they've
been to the finals before. They look like they got
an easy path in the Eastern Conference with everybody injured.
You know, we were waiting for the Joker to win
his title. He won his title. I would say Embiide
has a lot of pressure, but he's coming back after
the injury. But I would think the Celtics and Tatum
(20:27):
probably have as much pressure than anybody else.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
They've definitely set it up that way with Tatum accomplishes
so much at a young age, and then you look
at the Celtics. They're five and the top six terrific
all year always hit the Celtics. The biggest the plomment
could be themselves because when they're up fifteen or twenty,
they're like Mike Tyson, I'll knock you out balls topic
everything's working. When the tight games to make their reserve
(20:53):
back to kind of join the one on one and
the ball slows down, the game blogs down, and that's
their biggest Acidi killing me as trust with the game
for the Titans.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How much pressure is on Jalen Brunson. You played in
New York, what four or five years? They're playing Philadelphia,
they're the number two seed. How much pressure.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
I don't think there's a lot of pressure on them.
I think, honestly it'll be the other guys who step
up that can help him and help the team. If
I'm a team, I'm not letting rustlings play one on
one game after the game after it's crew to can
beat you. So I'm sure they'll see different coaches, bigger defenders,
double teams, and he has to get rid of the
ball from those. The other guys consistently make shots. I
(21:32):
ain't got to be the difference between the next making
a big runner out. They already overteeved the number two
seed with with their hurts.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Pressure on here.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We had a discussion on the show and we were
talking about the most entertaining players in NBA history. I
don't know if you heard about it, but I did
not hear about that. Okay, your your name came up, uh,
one of our dan Ets, Marvin. But in fact, here
was the here's the here's the conversation, Jamal. Just so
(22:03):
you know, full transparency, not trying to hide anything. This
is our back and forth?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yes, Martin not a great player, but entertaining Jamal Crawford, Yeah,
he's not in there. Jamal Crawford's not entertaining.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Not with these guys. I mean, you're gonna die on
that hill alone. Come to my funeral. No, Jamal's not
even gonna die on that hill with entertaining, entertaining. Great
Jamal Crawford was a great shooter, great ball handling, great shooter,
great shooter. Wasn't good enough to start, Okay, okay, So
(22:46):
who were you mad at? Are you mad at me?
Speaker 9 (22:50):
I'm not mad at at all, but I'm rolling with Marvin.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm okay, all right, So you're on the hill with Marvin. Okay,
this is what we did. So we had Tim Legler
on and he said, Aitlyn Clark's one of the top
five most entertaining players, and you're throwing in Kobe, you're
throwing in Mike, throwing in magic. Uh, doctor J. And
then Marvin brought up your name as the next group,
(23:16):
and I said, no that I didn't say that you
weren't great, but it's like, are you more entertaining than
Dominique Wilkins.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
No, No, that wouldn't entertained that all right, you can
see why you looked at them crazy after that list
of names.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And I get, yeah, okay, but I just want you
to know you were instant offense. Marvin is showing me
YouTube clips here reminding me Ali Oop to Blake Griffin
and breaking people down off the dribble. I got that.
Are you more entertaining than White Chocolate.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
No, I think we're in the same rare Okay, yeah,
I'm a White Sookler fan. I think you have some
of the best handles that. But I always say we're
in the same real stars to take.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay, uh, who else would you put in there? Most
entertaining players of like Vince Carter is in there, most entertained,
h Penny Hardaway Iverson. There are so many players that are.
I mean, it's not it's not a negative to not
make that, you know, top ten, Leves.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Yeah, Trace McGrady. I think Kitty
Shaq is entertainment like there was obviously Kobe's box Office,
and there's so many people. I think Mack mood Up
your roof is entertained. I think Nick fan Axel was.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
There's a lot of guys for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Days mock Mood. It felt like he had that first
crossover that I remember. I know Hardaway got credit for,
you know, having a great but mock Mood at the
when he was at LSU, he was scaring LEVI the
nation scoring.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
Yeah, I talked to Shack, he said at l s
U he looked at mack Mood. Chris Chris Jackson at
the time like a god. He was like, I was
scared to talk to him because he was that big
on campus.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Absolutely, but that was that was a crossover move.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yes, yes, this ball fakes after he shout it. The
way his quick release, the way he embarrassed the fingers
is foot work. He absolutely were most inertated.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What was it like though, when you go into a
game and you're expected to score and like, so there's
pressure that this is what you do. One of the
best six men in the history of the sport, but
that I got to turn it on as soon as
I get in while everybody else has been playing for
you know, a few minutes.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
It was definitely fun because you have that freedom, but
it was pressure. I look at it like maybe a
kickoff return guy. You know, he can run deep every
time they're just loaded up from the ends. All we
know he's gonna get back. You still have to.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Find your way.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
So for me, I was actually playing the game while
on the bench. I'm watching the game. Oh they're playing
this with this coverage. Oh okay, they're doing that. They
already took away from Chris took menition JJ. I have
to absolutely counter it before I have to use it.
So I was playing the mental game of putting myself
in the game while I was on the bench, and
I think that helped me have some success.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And then I tricked myself that I was Superman. Come in, Superman.
I'm gonna say that. I just had a heightened confidence.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
And for me, once I got in that role, Uh,
it's some magic happened at times.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
All right, Well, we wanted to have you on talk
a little NBA, but we also wanted to have you
on to make sure you understood that full you know,
transparency here that we called you a great player. I
just didn't have you as one of the most entertaining
players of all time.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
See, I have it flipped for me. I think I'm
more entertaining than great. So I think there's definitely an
entertaining volume there.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Wait, you want to be when I played? I okay, wait,
so you want to be entertaining not great?
Speaker 9 (26:55):
No, I think I was closer to entertaining than great.
I thought it wasn't great, but I think I was
really good at what I did, and I think I
was entertaining part. I think it's kind of denial. So
I'm on that hill with Marvin.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Maybe you could give him your Maybe you could give
him your New York Nick Jersey there behind you. That'd
be a nice parting gift that Marvin is dying on
the dying on that hill with you. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Hey, Jamal, I always say you were one of those
sound effects guys. Like when somebody's describing Jamal Crawford, a
krafft will go to the top of the key, hah,
what Like you were one of those guys.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
Mark, when I see people on the street, they try
to do my own move on me unpractices, move forever
they try to do.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I know it's coming, but that part is part of
the entertained to guy for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's great. Uh, You're one of our favorites. Thank you, Jamal,
Thanks for joining us. That's Jamal Crawford Turner, sports NBA
analyst and uh former sixth Man of the Year won
it three times. All righty, Marv, So I'm surprised. Would
you rather be more entertaining or great? Greater or entertaining
(28:01):
or great? Yeah? Entertaining or greater or entertaining? Marvin? What
about you? Greater instead of entertaining or.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Yeah, Paulie, Sometimes great's about accomplishments and winning, right, It's
more and more of a judgment. Vince Carter was entertaining, Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Would you rather be Vince Carter or Tim Duncan. Everybody
was going there, Come on, we all know what Vince
Carter or Tim Duncan.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
I think you got to pick someone who won a
little less. Vince.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, but that's being great as opposed to being entertaining entertaining,
didn't win.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
I gotta go Tim Duncan because his name is still
out there.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So you don't want to be entertaining, Todd.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Clearly Paul doesn't want to be entertaining perman half for decades.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yea in everyday life, Todd, what about you?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I would be more entertaining and then maybe I get
cameos on TV shows and move reason. You could kind
of parlay that into other fun stuff away from the court,
because you're that interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Seeking What about you entertaining or great man?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Winning is pretty pretty great, Goda admit, but I think
I'd rather be entertaining.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
So you'd rather be Vince Carter than Tim Duncan.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
When I look at like Alan Iverson, all of my
favorite players are the most entertaining guys, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Okay, who would be the point guard comp for would
you rather be Tony Park because I'd rather be Iverson
somebody who won Stockton didn't win, Yeah, Paul Joe.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Dumars or Allan Iverson, Alan Ison, but Mars has what
two titles?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, Isaiah Thomas. Although although Zeke was entertaining, yeah, but
he wasn't as entertaining. I mean, Iverson was, you know, unique.
But I think going back to would you rather be
Vince Carter Tim Duncan? What do we need to do
that to Tim?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
For?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I don't I think Tim. I think Tim would. Jimmy
would be fine with this. He would be like, yeah,
I take Vince Carter too, like Chauncey Billups.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Or Joe Flacco or Michael Vick.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, I think I might take Michael well.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Take way to off field, just the playing career and
not getting close to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
You know, Michael Vick is like iverson is you know,
it's like man, that dude was different Joseph Joe Johnson, Yeah,
Joe Johnson or yes time.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
My test is, hey, that's Mike Vick over there, as
opposed to say, hey, Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Come over here with tips?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Who are you more excited to see if you run
into them in the street?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Is how I would decide something.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Like, okay, all right, whose career you'd want?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You're gonna get excited to get an autographrom what picture?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
With Steven Seattle on the topic, Hi Steve, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Well?
Speaker 11 (30:59):
I just want to and let's talk about most exciting duos.
And they were both great Sean Camp and Gary Payton
did playing together in the nineties for the Sonics. Doesn't
get much better than that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, Sean was entertaining and at times was the best
player on the floor. In fact, when the Bulls played
Seattle in the NBA Finals, there were two players on
the Bulls who said Shawn Camp's has player on the floor.
Didn't say it publicly, but they did say it privately.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
I know didn't say it. Number twenty three.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Mike was not going to say that, but yeah, Sean
Kemp was entertaining man, and there have been a lot
of those players, but entertaining or great. I was surprised
though that Jamal said that he's closer to being entertaining
than he is great. All right, let me take a break.
More phone calls coming up, and next hour he is
(31:52):
entertaining and he is great. He's Al Michaels. He'll join
us on the program back after this.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
By the way, we mentioned Bob Yuker on the show.
Word got to Bob Yuker. Bob Yuker reaches out to
me and he said, what am I missing? And I
said nothing. We just mentioned your name and he said, oh,
is everything good? I go yeah, And I think he
thought I was checking in on him. I did it
one time and he said, are you checking on me
to see if I'm still alive? I said no, but
(32:31):
I'm glad you are. So the great Bob Uker did
reach out late yesterday. All right, we'll get to more
phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP show.
He's a Hall of Famer. He's Al Michaels Thursday Night
Football play by play on Amazon. Al great to see
again Hal's morale.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm so happy to fill this window of opportunity for you.
As always. It's so funny you mentioned Bob Yucker, and
I know when you promoted the fact that I was
going to be on the show, you called me Albino.
But that was the name Dennis Miller gave to me.
(33:10):
I much prefer Alfalfa, which is the name Bob Yuker
gave to me in nineteen eighty two and was stolen
by Howard Kosell.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, you go back to Yuker and the Miller like
commercials and how when he was on with Johnny Carson,
and like he was killing it when he was on
with Carson.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I think Johnny Carson actually said at one point, maybe
he wrote about it in a book that he put
Yuker I think in the top five of the people
he loved to interview. I think Don Rickles would be
in there too. I mean, Don Rickles is clearly the
funniest man I have ever met. And Bob Yuker, I
mean he's right in that pantheon. I mean, Yuker would
(33:51):
come you know, I think I've told you the story before,
but I was doing the game with Yucker and Cosell
in the early eighties, and you know, Howard wanted a
bunt in a situation where you'd never bunt, and Yuker's
trying to talk him off of it, but you know,
very softly and kindly, and Howard's going to play with
him again. And he says, all right, y you don't
(34:12):
have to be so truculent. You do know a truculent
means don't ship, and without hesitation, Yuker says, how and
of course if you had a truck and I borrowed it,
it would be a truculent. And not only was Yuker funny,
but Yuka was quick. He was you know, somebody would
say something in a second later. Bengo.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I love that he said, you know, catching a knuckleballs easy,
you just wait till it stops rolling, right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
And also, I mean he had so many grave lines.
You know, there was a five thousand dollars bonus that
was offered when he signed. He said, well, my father
couldn't afford that much. So I love Bob.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
You.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I just loved the guy.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Did you ever meet Johnny Carson?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I met him very briefly at a restaurant. I was
never on his show. Well, no, I would have loved
it at that point, but I know that, you know,
our good buddy Bob Costas. One of his the things
that he wanted to do before his career was over
to get on the Carson Show. And I think he
did that last week. But no, I just met him
once in a restaurant. End the story.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, let me set up the premise because we
thought of you, the most greatest player in sports history,
so we created, you know, a new phrase here, the
most greatest players, because we were talking about Wayne Gretzky.
You know, when you look at dominance in your sport,
eight Heart trophies, I mean, what he did is ruthian
(35:39):
in his sport. But if you were going to give
me your top five most greatest players in sports history,
you know, depending on whatever sport you want to pick, well.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know it's funny because ESPN at the end of
the twentieth century nineteen ninety nine, they did the thirty
for thirty and they picked the top one hundred athletes
of the twenty century. And I was on a panel
and I had to pick them one through one hundred.
It was hard because you know, there were so many.
I actually went with Jim Thorpe because there was no
(36:10):
television start of the century. Multiple Olympic medalist, gold medalist,
played professional baseball, played professional football. But you know, pre
television age, radio was still in its infancy. But you're
right about now. You mentioned the two people who I
thought about to Babe Ruth, who, of course, would you
know one year, I think nineteen twenty one, he had
(36:31):
fifty nine home runs. So the league that I get
something by twenty four. So it was, you know, we
pretty much like Gretzky. Wayne was the same way. You know,
Wayne would lead the leading goals by a margin of
two and a half to one. So I put you know,
Wayne in there, Ruth. Certainly, now you get to basketball
and so many you know, I look, I go back
(36:52):
when I'm in high school. I saw Elgin Baylor play
Elgin Baylor. Was Michael Jordan Before Michael Jordan used to
games played so differently that point. So you had Michael,
I love you. Living in la I saw a ton
of Kobe, and I mean I got to put Kobe
right up there next to Michael. You can argue that
till your death is who was the better guy for
(37:14):
the most part, would say Michael, but they were both
off the charge fantastic. I think for football there were
so many great quarterbacks, but I for my football player,
believe it or not, I put in Jerry Rice because
Rice did the same thing to the record book that
Gretzky and Ruth did. He was so much better than
everybody at that particular time. And while we're on the
(37:36):
subject of Gretzky, I have to say something to you, Dan,
because you know a lot of people obviously don't follow hockey,
but as a hockey maniac, Conor McDavid of the Edmonton Oilers,
without question the best player I've seen since Wayne. And
I know it's heresy to say is he better than Wayne?
But I ran into Grant Fewer, who was the goaliade
(37:58):
on those Edmonton teams in the eighty so he would know.
And I said to Grant, I said, Grant, I said,
it's heresy. Is McDavid better than Gretzky. He had a
great answer. He said, not yet. Oh well, he said,
he said, Wayne made everybody around him better. But McDavid
is I love what you know. I watch that like
(38:18):
you know, on the NHL plus whatever it is network,
just to see him play anyway, So there you would
have me. And then if you're only talking about teams,
you know you're eliminating like boxers. I think Muhammad Ali
actually won that thing, by the way, if a if
a memory serves.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, Jordan won it?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Did Jordan win it? And where did I leave that
had to finish in the top of career?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
So I think Secretariat was up there. Wow, yes, and
all all people were so upset me because I hosted that.
Each week i'd reveal you know who was number seventeen.
And I remember when we revealed that secretary it was
one of the top fifty athletes of all time. Oh,
(39:03):
people went through the roof. Paul, you have the top five.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah, the top five ESPN's greatest North American athletes, Michael Jordan,
Babe Ruth, Muhammad Ali, Jim Brown, Wayne Gretzky. Then it
goes to Jesse Owens, Jim Thorpe.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I would put Jackie Robinson. There. I think Jackie is
the greatest athlete of all time for this reason. I'm
going to add importance there, what he went through to
do what he was doing. Baseball wasn't his best sport.
He could have played football. He played football at UCLA,
ran track, so he was also a basketball player at UCLA.
(39:37):
So if I look at all four sports that he
might have been able to play professionally. And by the
way you played in baseball, you broke the color barrier.
You had teammates who didn't even want you on the
field at that time, and you became a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah. I mean, again, there's no question as to the
importance of Jackie Robinson and what he meant. But again,
you go into this barroom argument. And by the way,
why is it why is it called the bar room stayingway?
I mean, you're in the barroom, right, me in the
bar right. I always loved that phrasey barroom argument.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
And it's a barroom brawl.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
It's a bar it's a barroom brawl.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, bar brawl.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, where did that start? Yeah? I mean in terms
of significance and what he's meant to sports and what
he meant to in the sports intertwined with society and
and a lot of everything else. You know, Robinson is there,
but then a you know, somebody's got to be number one,
so pick your number one, and uh, Jordan's a good answer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I remember we were trying to get him to do
an interview. And this is right up to the very end.
We're trying to get Jordan to sit down and do
an interview. They want to put together his his moment,
and Mike didn't want to do it. And I remember
at the time, Tim Duncan was playing in the Ends
(41:01):
and he wanted to know who was going to be
the number one person. He gets done, he just beat
the Knicks. He comes into the interview room because I said, look,
if you win the NBA title, I'll tell you. He
gets he just won the title. He walks in, he
goes Who's number one? And I go, well, you guys
are He goes, no, who's number one? And I said
Michael Jordan and then he goes okay like that. For
(41:23):
some reason, he really wanted to know. But I you know,
Mike doesn't like reflecting back. He doesn't do a lot
of these interviews. I mean, he did the Last Dance,
and I think the Last Dance felt like it was
a reminder to those who think Lebron or Kobe, these
other modern day players are on his level. I think
(41:45):
that's part of the reason why he did that documentary.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think he knew
at that point, because I mean, nobody really knew that
they were doing that, and they're they're behind the scenes
footage and the audio was you you watched it and went, Wow,
where'd they get that? How'd they do that? So he
knew what he had in mind for maybe his legacy.
(42:09):
But you're right, he did very few interws, as did Kobe.
Kobe didn't do that many interviews either during that period
of time, so they were very selective.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
He's al Michael was the Hall of Famer. Do you
remember your first NFL game that you called?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I certainly do so. I'm doing the Cincinnati Reds during
the baseball season, and then NBC called me in nineteen
seventy one, my first year was Cincinnati and said, can
you do a regional NFL game on October third, nineteen
seventy one. We want you to go to Minnesota and
do Buffalo against Minnesota, and in those years that the
(42:48):
home team was blacked out, so it wasn't even shown
in Minneapolis. He only went to Buffalo. It's during the
baseball playoffs, which was why I got the job. He's
Kurt Gowdy and Jim Simpson were doing the that year,
so Jay Randolph moved to number one and I came
in to do the last game. So not only does
it only go to Buffalo, it doesn't even go to
(43:08):
the regular NBC station, It goes to a UHEF station
in Buffalo. So Minnesota wins the game nineteen to nothing.
Bud Gramt was the coach and in that game, OJ
Simpson was the running backs and al Cowlings was a
defensive lineman in that game. You can look it up.
(43:30):
So that's how I broke in. And then two weeks
later I did the Buffalo at the Jets at Chase Stadium,
same kind of thing. New York is blackdown, it's during
the baseball postseason. So I go all the way back
to nineteen seventy one doing my first NFL game.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Toughest sport or how about the easiest sport to do?
Play by player?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
The easiest. Well, I built my career around baseball, So
it was so comfortable, and it's a different it's a
different sport to do. Obviously you have some time. It's
more relaxing and all, you know. So, I mean baseball
was easy for me, and then a ton of football.
You know, I've done nine hundred NFL games now and
probably a couple hundred college games, so you know, I
(44:15):
get how to do football. Hockey is the hardest, without question.
Hockey on radio is the hardest because if you're in
your car, you can picture a baseball game. This team
is back, this team's in the field. In football, this
team has the ball. This team is on defense. The basketball,
(44:35):
you know a lot of turnovers. You know has the
ball in hockey, the change of possession is so quick
and so rapid, and people, you know, you don't get
to see, like if you have you're a fan of
the Rangers, but they're playing Winnipeg. You know, you know
who your guys are. You have no idea who the
other guys are. So I think you know guys who
(44:56):
do hockey on radio very well. A great deal of
respect for me because I think it's the toughest.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
How's your eyesight?
Speaker 3 (45:06):
My eyesight is pretty good. We're a daily contact lens
in my right eye.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
But you have to have a good eyesight to do
play by play, don't you You do?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Oh for sure. But again, these days, the coverage is
so great that I think very often you're calling the
game off the monitor because you can see the game
a lot better off the monitor than you can if
you're sitting in a high up Some of the broadcast
(45:37):
vantage points are great, like Kansas City, even New York.
You're kind of like right over the field and you
feel like you're right there. And then you get to
other places where you like in the top of the
upper deck. I remember Caniblestick Park when the forty nine
Ers played there. The football broadcast routh was so high.
I once said, I couldn't resist my I said, you're
(45:58):
actually looking down on the blimp. I mean, it was ridiculous.
So you had to call the game off the monitor.
And in those years, you know, I try to. You
try to do it both ways. I try to, you know,
watch how they're lined up with my naked eye, see
it the play begins, then do you go to the monitor,
bea You're going to see it a lot better off
the monitor.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, I always admired what Doc Emrick did to tremendous
but to do it on TV where it's so fast paced,
but you don't have to describe all the action because
you want to be fair to the audience that you
don't say everything that you see. But when it comes
to radio, and that's the tricky part of you can
(46:39):
see it, I don't have to say it. But what
am I going to say to kind of compliment what
you're watching? How difficult was that for you at any time?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Well, you know, I didn't do that much hockey because.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Any sport, though, like you're we get to see and
you assume your audience is knowledgeable, and then how much
do you tell them what they're actually seeing?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well, first of all, I mean there's there's a difference
between announcing a football you're on television and on radio.
On radio, you need to use every verb. Nobody can
see anything. On television. I talk about very often using
captions and ellipses. You see the play, you don't have
to necessarily use the verb because the verb becomes a
(47:24):
visual to the fan. So in football, and same thing
basically in baseball, and roughly the same in basketball, hockey,
is a different animal because in hockey, you know, and
doc Emick had it down perfectly. He almost did a
radio call on television, not exactly, but you know, you
(47:45):
want to keep up with the pace of the pace
of the game is so fast and back and forth
and change of possession, almost scoring. So it's pretty hockey
would be the closest to combining radio and television. The
other sports are vastly.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Differentould you rather be great or entertaining?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Well? I think I think they go hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Dan, Well, let's say you could be Vince carter YEP
or Tim duncan.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Good question. Hmmm, I'd like to be a hybrid. That's
not an answer. Ould no, no, who had well? Who
had the better career? I mean Jim, Yeah, for sure,
no question about it. And it's funny because you know
what reminded me of Tim Pete Samprass. And I remember
(48:39):
once after Pete retired, and you know, Pete lives out
here and I played a lot of Goblin through the years.
We were walking down the fairway at one point a
couple of years after we retired, and he was a
little worried about becoming not as relevant in retirement. And
I said to him, you remind me of Tim Duncan.
I think you'll only be appreciate it to the fullest
(49:02):
extent after you're gone. And they were the same kind
of people, right, not necessarily gregarious, obviously are entertaining, but tremendous, tremendous.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
You didn't answer the question. Now you don't answer the question.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Vince Carter Duncan. What can I tell you? Yeah, Duncan
went Championships O. Vince was Vince was great to watch.
But you know, Duncan, I mean, what are you playing
the game for it? You're playing the game to win
the game, and you know, look at Duncan's record, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Great to talk to you, hopefully we didn't, you know,
slow down your golf game today.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Listen. I have to tell you one thing. The last
golf tip you gave.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Me Johnny Miller.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Johnny Miller, Johnny Miller. So it worked for about three holes.
But then the problem right now is when I try
to put it in my head, what I do is
I go Johnny.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Miller mill or slow down your swing? Yes, thank you, al,
great to talk to you, buddy man.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I'll be good.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
That's uh, that's al Michaels
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