April 22, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan wonders if the Washington Commanders are trying to disguise their choice for their second overall pick or if they just have no idea what they’re doing. And NFL insider Tom Pelissero drops by to clear up any confusion about who they will choose on Thursday night.
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Our two is going to be what seat no Connor?
Our two is going to be Jaden Daniels related. Okay,
if you are Jadendaniels, you dot dot dot are happy
to go to the commanders or hope someone trades up
for you. Well, the reason why this is kind of
bubbling right now, First of all, we don't have that
headline heading into Draft night on Thursday night. We assume
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Caleb Williams is going to go number one, Drake May
Jaden Daniels number two. Then the other one will go three.
JJ McCarthy will probably be in there. Somebody will trade
up to four or five. Michael Pennix. It feels like
is gaining momentum. Bo Nicks might be dropping a little bit.
But as far as drama here, not a lot, but
(01:24):
it feels like there's the potential for some drama that
Jade and Daniels, or at least his representatives, have presented
the possibility that he's upset that the Commander's brought in
four quarterbacks on the same day to work out if
I'm the number two overall pick. I don't want these
other players coming in and if I'm not the number
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two pick overall.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
This was last Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The store story started to come out because you brought
in these quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Are the commanders not sure right now?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I like that they're doing their due diligence. It makes
me nervous that they're still doing their due diligence. You know,
the Bears have decided on Caleb Williams. There's no drama there.
People have tried to manufacture stories. Oh he didn't want
to go there. Certainly sounds like he wants to go there.
In fact, he was on the Pivot podcast and had
this to say.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Now that I want to play at one place for
twenty years and chase one guy number twelve. I want
to place that loves ball, you know. That's all I've
heard about is Chicago so far, which is exciting for
me because LA was great, but there is probably double
digits of teams here.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's a big.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Pool of you know, so you have to be winning championships,
you have to be playoffs every year to have you know,
the fans and things like that show up. And so
one thing, you know, if it was Chicago's a place
that I've heard that they love ball, which is really
exciting for me. It's something that I'm looking forward to
and embracing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
If the Commanders had the number one pick, he'd probably
say all the same things. Man, they love ball here.
I can't wait to go there. I'm going to chase
number twelve, Tom Brady, but saying all the right things.
And I'm just surprised if you get a once in
a generational count, once in a generation talent and nobody
is offering to move up to get him.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That I find surprising.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, we've had teams go up to number two,
but going up to number one that you know, you
do the math and what it's going to take as
far as draft picks, and then you say is it
worth it? It's almost like it might be worth it,
but we're going to take maybe somebody who is a
B plus instead of Anus here and we'll live with that.
(03:39):
You don't want to give up everything you have, all
of your draft picks, and then you get a guy
then you can't help him out. But as far as
Jaden Daniels with the Commanders, I think the last time
I look at DraftKings, they had odds of who was
going to go number two and was it Drake may
or Jayden Daniels. And I think those odds have been
flip flopping a little bit here because they're not quite
sure what Washington's going to do. But we'll talk to
(04:02):
Tom pelsero NFL Network Insider about this, and a lot
of times the agents start to get involved. Now then
you start to give a little bit more of the
Somebody is saying something about somebody, or you could be
saying something about somebody else's talent. Somebody else's player and
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trying to get somebody to fall. GM's scouts sometimes will
leak something out there. You know, I'm here and I'll
go back to the NBA draft. On the night of
the NBA Draft, I had an agent come up to
me and he said, does Billis have his draft board there?
And I go, yeah, I'm sure he does. He goes, yeah,
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I'm curious where Brandon Roy is. I said, well, I
think he's like top five, maybe going to Portland. He goes,
I don't know about the knees. I go, well, what
do you mean. He goes, Now, he's got some bad knees.
So I said to Billis, I said, hey, ran into
this agent and he brought up Brandon Roy's knees and
then I think BILLI said, yeah, I think most people
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are aware of that. And it turned out that Brandon
Roy was a really good player but a short period
of time and had bad knees. But you get that
where somebody will say, hey, what are you hearing about,
and then if you say nothing, they'll go, oh, you
haven't heard about and then they'll give you something along
the lines of you should keep an eye on this.
So a lot of it is gossip. A lot of
(05:27):
it is to you know, ulterior motives. Nobody's being altruistic
to help me host the NBA Draft. It was, hey,
you know, you might put that out there that Brandon
Roy turned out. I think he was Rookie of the Year,
was a really good player, but then didn't last long.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yes, Paul, I'm looking back at some old draft coverage
and remember when Blake Bortles was taken by the Jaguars.
I think third overall, I'm looking at the draft, but
people are shocked on the set. I think one of
the analyst says, he was not in our plans at
all for them. They didn't even bring him in for
an interview. They didn't work him out. They hid Blake Bortles.
They had planned on him the whole time and talked
(06:04):
nothing about him. It's the thing you don't expect that
could happen. That's the best part about it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, we had him on after the draft and we
were just talking about, you know, how did that process
work that you didn't go in. He said, well, you know,
they did an interview with me and I said any
strange questions and he goes, well, they ask about my
girlfriend and at the time.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's when you were allowed to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I guess I'm going to use quotations to ask these
uncomfortable questions with your potential draft picks there.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He started out well and then all of a sudden
he sort of became who we thought he was. But
I remember, hey, would they go after Johnny Manzil? You know,
there was all this speculation and Jacksonville didn't tell anybody anything,
and then all of a sudden, they're taking Blake Bortles,
and then people had to go, wait, he'd play it
like Central Floord.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Wait where did he play?
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Everybody was scrammed because they're not thinking Blake Bortles is
going to go number three overall?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Didn't he throw thirty five touchdowns?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Paulie?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
What a weird career. His second year in the league,
he was had thirty five touchdown passes, then got worse.
But was it? Was it twenty seventeen they almost made
the Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Him when they lost to the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Yeah, that Miles jack play or they.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Should have won, They should have gone to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, twenty seventeen, they were two and one in the playoffs.
He had three touchdowns and no picks and they almost
went to the Super Bowl. His career was had one
more year. Basically, oh it is that a weird career.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But you didn't interview him like, you didn't work him out.
You didn't want to let anybody know anything. Sometimes you
can outsmart yourself, all right, Pole question for hour two
is what see o Connor? Yeah, we're gonna go with
Jaydeen Daniels. Are you happy to go with the Commanders
or would you hope somebody trades up for you? Well,
(07:53):
I think there's a relationship with Antonio Pearce from Arizona
State for Jade and Daniels. I think Antonio Pierce was
on HERM. Edwards staff, and so I think people are
kind of trying to connect the dots of hey, what
about the Raiders? Well, what do the Raiders have to
give up to go up to number two? And you
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know Tom Pelsara will set a straight on this, but
that's what I'm wondering. Do the Raiders do they want
to go up and get Jade and Daniels? Can they
go up and get him? And you kind of have
to go to two because if you go to three,
what happens if the Commanders go uh, I think we're
gonna take Jade and Daniels. Then you're like, uh, we're
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gonna take Drake may or JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You got to go up make sure you get your guy.
It's like the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The Vikings, Okay, they got two first round picks, they're
going to go up and get Okay, you're fine with
getting the fourth quarterback there, getting JJ McCarthy. But even
what Sean Payton said last week, and I say this
every draft, don't get a quarterback. Get your quarterback, because
if you go into that, I remember the Bengals took
Achille Smith, a nice player at Oregon, but it's like, hey,
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we got to get our quarterback, and Achille Smith wasn't
a good NFL quarterback. Hey we got a quarterback, Get
your quarterback. And I think that's what Sean Payton. Keep
in mind, when the Broncos brought in Sean Payton, they
had to give up a second round draft pick. I believe,
so they don't have that second round pick this year
you're trying to get a quarterback. It might you might
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prevent them from getting a quarterback because you can't trade
your second round draft pick here. But it feels like
Sean Payton and the Broncos now should be a player.
The Broncos uniforms are being released today, they're dropping today. Yeah,
have you seen any Have there been any leaks here?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
There's been a little purposeful leakage. Is it like to say,
you can't really see the stripes, it's all about the stripe.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Sounds like a problem that you have. What are you
suffering from purposeful leaking.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
After four hours? No, I haven't seen anything. I saw
some helmets, but it may have been one of those
bait things where they try to put out a fake count.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, who puts out a uniform where you go, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like a lot of it is you know, you're sort
of working in the context of what your uniforms look like.
Unless it's those throwbacks from the nineteen forties when the
Packers would have those or the Bears. All right, those
are unique, But I'm talking about your every every week uniforms.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, palling.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
A lot of people want the La Rams to go
back to their uniforms from the late seventies early eighties,
and they do, like in drips and drabs, they like
have throwback weeks and do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
There are these the gold pants? The yellow pants?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Gold pants? Kind of classic?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
This Vince Ferragamo, Yeah, the Faragama era.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Hmm, man great looking for.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It is Ferragamo, Garoppolo before Garoppolo.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Call great call Pastorinius.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I still think the Rams are taking a quarterback high. No,
I'm not high. I'm just saying I think they're going
to take them high up.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yes. So the Broncos are an interesting case study because
they've had some bad uniforms in their past, but they've
had good, good play with bad uniforms in the Lway days,
the later Lway days when they actually won it, and
the early and then when Manny was there. Their uniforms
are horrid, but they won. So it's very confusing. It
it makes you think their uniforms are better than they were.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They were horrible, no drama in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yet it's almost like uniforms don't impact how you win
or lose it all.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Whoa, whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You don't think did you ever play better when you
had a better uniform when you were younger?
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I do believe there is a whole like look good,
feel good, play good mentality.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I do believe that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I can remember my senior year in high school and
we got new uniforms, you know those ones that look
like hoosiers that you know, shiny pants. We got rid
of all of those things, really short shorts, and then
we had a little bit, you know, lower shorts and
a different shade of green for the mighty mighty comments.
And I remember putting those things on. We had black
(12:06):
high top converse. We were ready. We were ready. Come
and get some mister outside, mister inside, coming to your town.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I always thought that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers couldn't win
a Super Bowl with those copper pewter uniform Yeah. Did
they win it?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Two? Yeah, despite the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Uniforms, I guess, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But they they won it with Brady, didn't. They have
kind of the same uniform.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
There, kind of a little more orangey.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
If they went back, you'd have to go cream sickle
in the Super Bowl, Doug Williams, that'd be awesome. Yeah, Well,
Doug didn't get to the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The Jets new uniforms aren't really new, they're just repaired.
They're less awful, but they look more like eighties Jets uniform.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We're still trying to fix the Eagles. They got to
get the green, right, you know, it's it's there's black
and there's green, and it's dark green, and it's just
they need to they need to have Harold Carmichael Green back.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes, time, is that the Kelly green?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Is that the color that they referred to them?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Maybe right?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
The current Eagles colors are midnight green, black, white and silver. Yeah,
done work, big mess, No done a team? Yeah that
they could be even better? Correct them?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They had better green? Scott and Ohio, Hi, Scott, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Day? Good morning? How you guys doing great? Scott fantastic?
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Speaker 3 (13:29):
All right? Marvin hit the music.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Three players in NBA against Green were Scoring champ and
NBA All Defense in the same year. The logo one
time Mamba twice, mister Michael Jeffrey Jordan nine times.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Thank you, Scott, well done here? Yeah, Mike did it
what eight or nine times? Every year that he won
the scoring title, he was First Team All Defense? Jerry
West that happened? And who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Kobe? Kobe did it twice?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. We'll talk some football.
With Tom Pelsero. Why haven't the Bears announced that Caleb
Williams is their guy? They allowed to? And what's going
on with the commander is the number two pick as well?
We'll have that for you. Also, the NBA has announced
the NBA finalist here not surprised at the list. We'll
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talk about that as well. Back after this on The
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I'm watching the Duke story unfold right before our very eyes.
Their roster is changing rapidly and another transfer there.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I know they have a.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Couple of really good five star maybe the best player
in the country and Cooper Flag, but a lot of
turnover there. But John Shire, man, this is about nil.
It's changing now. I don't know if they would have
stayed if coach k was coaching there. Probably so John
Shire's losing his roster, turning it over. And that's surprising
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because players don't transfer from Duke, but they are now
and it's nil, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Yeah, we're reading a lot of local stories down there,
and they're having trouble putting their finger on the reason.
It could be playing time. It could be losing playing
time to the new draft class. There are some Nil
stories that are unbelievab about the numbers being to poach players.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, you know, they got one player's transferring to Baylor
and he was all acc roach and I guess if
they're gonna you know, from what I'm hearing, and I
don't know if this is factual, but just what I'm
hearing is Duke doesn't believe it has to pay with
others have to pay because it's Duke. But maybe that
is going to change. Tom Pelisero, NFL Network Insider, he'll
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be part of the draft night and he'll join us
coming up here in a little bit and get his
thoughts on a couple of things draft related. But yeah,
back to Duke. They have a couple of really high
end draft picks here that are coming in for one
and done. But that's the new you know, college basketball
landscape with nil? How long do you want to stay?
(17:23):
When am I going to get paid? Players are using
this is leverage to say, look, I'll stay if I
get or you guarantee me the things that are asked
for would probably blow your mind whether it's true or not.
But having somebody tell me what these kids ask for
or what they're representative ask for, because a lot of
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times the player doesn't want to go into the coach
and say coach, it's the representative who will say or
agent will say, hey, he'll stay if or if he
doesn't get this, he's going to go here, or they're
paying him here, he's going to go there. Hey, can
you guarantee that he's going to start? You ask for
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whatever you think you can get. Now you might be
turned down with ninety percent of it, but these players
know that they have leverage. Hey, I can go across
the street and play right now. It didn't used to
be that. So the deterren was do I really want
to transfer and sit out a year? Well, now it's changed.
Coaches can leave and coach right away. Now players can
(18:27):
leave and play right away. Yeah. Do you think any
of this has to do with Duke also looking to
go in a new direction on how they structure a
team and recruit kids.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, because they have two to one and donners coming in.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't know if they're getting transfer portal. But like
if I'm John Shire, I mean, these kids nowadays don't
look at Duke the way we did, where you're like,
oh man, you got an opportunity to go to Duke.
At one point people stop going, oh man, I got
to go to UCLA. Well, when you're not winning titles,
then all of a sudden they go, I have one
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to go to Georgetown. Hey, I want to you know,
be a fab fiver. I mean their kids, man, I
know they just got a saw headline. They got a
kid from Syracuse's transfer yes, yes, which is great. I
don't ultimately I don't know big picture exactly what that
means for the program, but.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
While they might be trying to change they did. They're
bringing in two of the top players in the country
and one is going to be one and done for sure.
But I'm i'm I'll be interest. I'll be interested to
see how they build rebuild that roster. And that's saying
a lot for Duke to rebuild a roster. Tom Pelso
joining us, He's a part of the NFL draft coverage.
(19:45):
That'll be uh well, they got all kinds of things
coming up. The coverage starts the twenty fifth, twenty six,
twenty seven tomorrow at eight Eastern on NFL Network. The
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special featuring Tom on. Tulane quarterback Michael Pratt, the perfect
prospect in this year's draft, who will have a number
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of a former high school teammate, late friend who passed away,
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spirit of Bryce and his late brother David alive. Tom
joins us on the program. Now, all right, Tom, let
me give you the poll question, seat and give Tom
(20:28):
the pole question at least for this second hour. If
you were Jaden Daniels, you were happy to go to
the commander's or you're hoping someone trades up.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
I would fairly say Jayden Daniels would love for someone,
specifically the Las Vegas Traiders to trade up. But Washington has,
let's say, demonstrated some inflexibility in terms of moving.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Out of that pick. It's an unique situation.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Obviously, barring the world collapsing tomorrow, Caleb Williams is going
to go number one to the Chicago Bears, which which
Washington atop the draft. They've thoroughly examined everybody. I know
that there are people there who really liked Drake may
JJ McCarthy impressed everybody who was at his pro day,
including the commanders, which is part of why they did
the unique thing last week with bringing all those quarterbacks
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plus Michael Pennix in for a group visit. Now, I'd
say there are not people within the league who were
calling our team doing this with quarterbacks. There's plenty of
teams who bring in the group visits the forty nine
ers or one of them. That's where Adam Peters, the
general manager, comes from. But with quarterbacks usually you want
to spend the maximum amount of time with them in
every facet of the building. I would point out there's
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only one player who got a ride from the airport
from dan Quinn. That was Jayden Daniels. Everybody else rode
the shuttle bus. So if you want to read into
the transportation the signals here, you would say it's pretty
clear that Jayden Daniels is going to be the guy.
And I would say within the league that would be
not necessarily the expectation, because until the pick's done, there's
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enough movie hearts here things can change. But I would
certainly say the most likely scenario when you talk to
people within the league is Jadeningals goes number two and.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know how this works. We're looking for a story.
Sometimes you create more of a story than there's really there.
Does Jade and Daniels want to go there? Was he
bothered that they brought in all these quarterbacks on the
same day to work out. And I don't know if
it's what's real or not in this situation, but I
got a factor in Antonio Pierce's relationship with Jayden Daniels
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going back to Arizona State. I think that's real. I
just don't know do the Raiders have enough? Well, first
of all, would the commanders be willing to listen? And
do the Raiders have enough to move up to number two?
Speaker 9 (22:40):
I can tell you the teams that have called Washington,
and this goes back to the Combine.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
This goes back to last month.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Every time people have called watched it about number two,
the answer has been, yeah, we're probably keeping the pick.
Now is there some type of an offer of you know,
Mike Ditkis style, here's our next three drafts. Maybe everybody's
got a price eventually here. But yeah, to think too,
Dad about the number of voices that are in that
room right now. For Washington, you got Josh Harris, who
is a new owner going through his first draft. He's
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been in every Combined interview, he's been at the visits,
He's intimately involved in the process. You got Bob Myers,
the former Golden State Warriors GM, who is at the
Combine and has been advising Josh Harris, going all the
way back to the coaching and GM search. You've got
Obviously Adam Peers, who's the GM Magic Johnson I guarantee,
(23:29):
has found a way to voice his opinion on what
should happen here. You've got dan Quinn, you got Kingsbury.
That's a lot of different people from different backgrounds that
are going to be weighing in on the topic here.
From Jane Daniel's perspective, you're right he was recruited Arizona State.
Antonio Pierce was a big part of that. James's mom,
who is very involved in his life and his career,
has been helping kind of steer things all along here.
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It's a little bit curious that he would want to
reunite with someone taking them back to the Arizona State
days since Arizona State did not end well for a
variety of reas and it was at LSU the Jaden
Daniels really found himself.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
But there's a comfort level there. He would like to.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Be in Las Vegas. It's just at this point, unless
you're going to pull a major lever here and try
to go full Eli Manning, it's just difficult to pull
this off. And for Washington, it seems like as they've
continued to go through this process, the arrows are pointing
toward them just taking Jade and Daniels making the best
of it in terms of getting him on board, Which
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is the other reason that if you're Jaden Daniels and
you've got any trepidation about going someplace in South Las
Vegas when you think you'd want the team to spend
as much time and have you meet with everybody and.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Sit down and go through the playbook and.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Whatever else, that didn't necessarily happen to the same extent
that Jayden Daniels or as people would want to. But
ultimately it's on Washington to make that pick, and the
signs keep pointing toward that being number two.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Why aren't the Bears publicly declaring that they're taking Kida Williams.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
I don't think they're really allowed to Dan. The NFL
frowns upon that. They like to have some level of drama,
even though there's not really a whole lot of drama.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
To be had.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well, what do I mean allowed to what?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Like?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
What would they get?
Speaker 10 (25:05):
It?
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Doesn't want The NFL wants the first time that it's
official to be on national TV.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I get it, I get it. But if I'm the Bears,
I want what's best for the Bears. In my fan base,
we believe in this guy. This is our guy, and
there we have no questions whatsoever. You know what, We're
going to play the game on Draft night, but this
is our guy. We want you guys to know instead
of having your fan base go and we should have
(25:31):
kept justin fieldser I don't know about this guy, like, uh,
you know, we should take Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Here's what I would tell you, And there are some
people within the league who who buy into Jayden Daniels
is going to be a better NFL player than Caleb Williams.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Cayl Williams, though, is the consensus top pick in this draft.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
I would tell you behind the scenes, everything that the
Bears have done for the past several months has been
with an eye toward we are building this thing for
Caleb Williams. You make an offensive coordinator change. You bring
in Shane Waldron's worked with different types of quarterbacks in Seattle.
They think that he's a really good fit for Caleb Williams.
You go, you signed DeAndre Swift, You trade for Keenan Allen.
(26:11):
You retain your offensive line coach Chris Morgan because he's
a really good run game, guys. You make sure you
got that in place. They've obviously built that defense. It's
a top ten caliber defense. And then you signal to
Caleb Williams that you're all in on him by trading
Justin Field for a sixth round pick early in the process,
rather than dragging that out to the draft. Now, could
(26:31):
they have just gotten on the phone and told Caleb
that as opposed to trade and away Justine Fields for
six probably that would have probably had the same effect here.
But what they've done over the last couple of months
here is when Caleb Williams came in for his visit,
they sent him out to dinner with a bunch of
their key players and make sure everybody was in a
good spot there. They've stayed in touch with Caleb Williams
via zoom since that day, going through just talking football
(26:55):
stuff with him. This is all clearly geared toward Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I get it. They're taking him. I just I said that.
I was told by a.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Source the Commissioner, or at least the Home Office, discourages
you from making this public. That's what this comes down to.
They just want that to be the first announcement. It's
the big night for the commissioner in the NFL. I
get that. I know you're short on time over under
quarterbacks in round one. If I set the number at
four and a half, now I'll set it five and
(27:26):
a half.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
I mean, that's the correct line right there, that's where
I would set it. I would take right now, sitting here,
I would say six quarterbacks going round one. And that's
in part because this is a unique class where if
you get beyond the first six, arguably seven, because there
are some people who have Spencer Rattler in their top six,
some have them ahead of Michael Pennis. There's really not
a whole lot of other guys. There is Michael Prad
(27:49):
you mentioned We've got a great feature coming on in
NFL three sixty tomorrow night. He's probably a late day too,
early Day three guy. I think Joe Milton, the guy
with the howitzer from Tennessee, he's going to get taken
late just based on trades, and that might be it.
That might be the only quarterbacks to get drafted other
than maybe there's somebody in the seventh because there's a
competition to sign him as a PFA and you don't
want to go down. The seat is take them late.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
But that's it.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
So you have more teams right now that need quarterbacks
than there are quarterbacks to be taken. So if you
go right down the list right now, all right, Caleb
Williams to the Bears, barring something totally unforeseen, at number one,
let's give the Commanders Jayden Daniels a two.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Somebody then takes in all likelihood.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Not necessarily one hundred percent because JJ McCarthy's in that
mix two, but somebody probably ends up with Drake may
at number three, whether that's the Patriots, the Giants, or
the Vikings in a trade up scenario. JJ McCarthy then
goes somewhere I would think between four and eleven, which
then still leaves the potentially of the Broncos, the Raiders,
some of the wild card teams like could the Rams
(28:48):
potentially take one as well. I think that there's a
lot of people within the league who believe if the
Raiders cannot go get Jayden Daniels, which by the way,
would be totally out of character for Tom to LESCo
to make a trade up, the general manager there appendix
is the guy who makes a lot of sense for
the Raiders and then bow Knicks.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
He's got a lot of fans around the league.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Let's say you're the Vikings and you get shut out,
you can't trade up, you miss out the Giants Tate McCarthy.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
And you're stuck.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
You might think, hey, we got not just number eleven,
we got number twenty three. Bow Knicks might be there,
And then the question is does a t are you
worried about a threat from a team like the Rams,
whose general manager Less Need played with bo Nix's dad
and is known forever Matthew Stafford's toward the end that
you feel like we need to get up ahead.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
You know.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
The Vikings are really, I think one of the fascinating
teams this entire draft, because yes, they signed Sam Darnold,
but they don't have another guy right now.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
They clearly want a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Everyone's been talking since they acquired the twenty third pick
that are right, they're gonna package him and move up,
but someone needs to be willing to move down for
you to move up if they get stuck there. I
really believe any of those other five guys are possibilities
for the Vikings to take, whether it is some at
some point in round one, or if they try to
get up there and take one at the top two.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I know you busy. Thanks for joining us, Tom, Thanks
all that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's Don Pelacero, NFL Network Insider, part of their draft coverage,
and tomorrow at eight eastern the Emmy winning series NFL
three sixty Draft Days Special featuring the two lane quarterback
Michael Pratt. We'll give you our best and worst of
the weekend. Coming up, Doug in North Carolina. Hi, Doug,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 10 (30:23):
Well, Dan, Wilmington, North Carolina. First off, and I have
to tell you that the best of the weekend is
our favorite son, Michael Jordan owned a car that won
Talladega yesterday. The worst of the weekend is on Friday,
our favorite son, Michael Jordan stabbed the city in the back.
We had plans to build a museum in downtown Wilmington,
(30:44):
Wilmington in his honor, Michael Jordan Museum. Everything was signed
and field, and on Friday he announced that he didn't
want to have it here in Wilmington. This is a
guy that and Polly may be able to say the
same thing about Chicago, but since he's left, he's shunned
this and he wants nothing to do with us, and
he's it feels like he's broken the hearts of a
lot of people here in Wilmington, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
MM, thank you, Doug. Yeah, I didn't know about the
Mike museum. How often do you turn down a museum
that's in honor of you?
Speaker 10 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
It was just announced on Friday. The new Hanover County
officials said they planned Michael Jordan museum will not go forward.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Did they run this by Michael before they announced that
they were going to have a museum?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Were they surprising him with it?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Guess what, Mike?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And he said, guess we got a museum.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Mike, can we have a bunch of memory, your memorabilia
to throw it to? Mm? No, it turns out you can't.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I appreciate that, but uh no, I'd rather you didn't.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Yeah, it's it's unclear why the family changed their mind
or refused to cooperate.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
He's been trying to sell his museum in Chicago for
a long time, but too many twenty three's all over
the place. Well, I hadn't sold his house's Yeah, that's
that's yeah, that's his museum.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, The news released to not state a specific reason
from the by the Jordan family decision.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Why do why do people not want to buy Michael
Jordan's house? I know there's a lot of twenty three.
Positive it is because you have to take down all
the twenty threes. I'm positive, But that's what you're buying.
You're buying Michael Jordan's house. Don't you want what comes
with Michael Jordan's house. Go into the bathroom and you
turn the two and the three for hot and cold water.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's like, good god, it's.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Down to fourteen to eighth. It was like twenty one million. Yeah,
there's no way around it. Like I'm looking at the pictures.
A non sports fan would know Michael Jordan's live here.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, But but you would think there would be a
fanatic out there that would go, I got Michael Jordan's house,
and I got stuff that goes along with that. You
got the basketball court there, and you know, granted the
gate has a big two and a three on it,
and he's.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Got a casino in one level, there's like a poker
playing room.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't know, Like if you bought is there another
athlete that like Shack's house, Shack's House in Orlando. I
don't know if that was up for sale, but it's
it's scaled to Shack. You can't be like Danny DeVito
and you you know, you buy the Shack House.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
How many seven foot billionaires are there?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't know if you have to be a billionaire, okay,
but still you have to buy a house. I heard
the story about Horace Grant when he played with the Magic.
He had a house in winter Park, but it was
for a six to nine guy, and then the person
who bought it had to lower like the countertops, and
(33:39):
you know it had to be you know, kind of
normalized with something like that. Yes, Marvin, And.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Why are there goggles at the gate.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
For Horace Grant?
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yes, dud And Joran's got that wagging tongue chandelier above?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
True?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You know that's not true. Does the doorbell you have
to push? It's like, guishy, can you press a doorbell?
It berates visitors, it tells them I'm better than you think.
Let's take a break. We'll give you our best and
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Speaker 11 (34:30):
I'm not I know who they are.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (34:34):
They were a constant like, oh are you going to
in high school? Are you going to Dave? Dave Matthews
was on tour every single summer, and the kids in
my high school that wore the shell necklaces, they were
gonna go see Dave Matthews.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I like Grateful Dave. You know, he's fun, good band.
It's a good time and Hall of Famer. I was
in a movie with him, Just Go with It out
in Hawaii. Got a chance to spend some time with him.
Very funny guy, very sharp guy. Got to see the
show a couple of times. So happy for Grateful Day.
If you ask Paul, I don't like.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
When people don't like a band and say they shouldn't
be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You
should acknowledge someone's success or fan base or whatever it
may be, because like there's some eras that some people
don't like. I'm looking at the list of bands that
are not in and there's a lot like Iron Maiden's
not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It
seemed like they had a very successful run.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Okay, wait, so why can't I not like a band?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
No, you cannot like a band, but you should look
at them objectively and say they should be in the
rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Like Mariah Carey is
not in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She
seems like she's really successful and I'm not a fan
of her work.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, yeah, I see.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So if you're looking at them objectively, you just have
to say they should be in.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
No, I'm saying, like, can you discuss someone and not
like them, Like I don't like Mariah Carey's music, But
if you look at like, almost like a judging for
the Basketball Hall of Fame, you may not be a
fan of a player, but like the work speaks for itself,
or the success speaks for itself. See and you love
the band. I love the band New Order a very
popular band in the new wave of Air of the eighties.
(36:14):
I'm sure a lot of people don't like them, but
their success stands for itself.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I'm confused that I have to respect a band
but not like a band.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Yeah, well, you know you can. Can you look at
a band objectively if you don't like their music.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, there's players in the Hall of Fame who I
don't like, but I understand that they're in the Hall
of Fame, then they should be I guess if that's
what you're saying. Yeah, I mean I usually judge these
kinds of things by what they did for music and
did they once their existence?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Were they either so tremendously.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Successful that that speaks for itself, or did they change
the direction of music once they it was going one
way and then they existed and now it splintered off
into another direction? That to me is always something that's like,
oh damn, that they were really really important by Sirvana
did this? Yeah, Nirvana would certainly be one of them,
or even maybe Tribe Coal Quest. That could be why
(37:09):
they got in. You know, there's a lot of different
artists that are like that New Order probably being one
of them.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I don't know if I can go by just what
they did for music. I mean, there's certain bands or
artists that I don't know if they changed anything, but
they added too. I mean, Foreigner didn't really change music.
They just had a bunch of hits and they're going
into the rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and I
don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, Paul, I'm going through this list. I'm just cringing
at certain names, like share very successful singing career, right, Yeah,
she'd never been nominated for the rock and Roll Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay, which is a travesty in itself.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Yeah, I think that's snarky.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, part of this is, like Mariah Carey's not rock
and roll. There's nothing rock and roll about her. It
should be labeled the music Hall of Fame. If it's
the rock and roll Hall of Fame, then there's a
lot of artists who shouldn't be in. Mariah Carey is
one of the most successful, is arguably the most successful
female artist of all time. Like, of course, of course
(38:14):
she needs to be in. It's crazy. But but when
we say rock and roll, she's not rock and roll. Yeah, yeah,
but that's it's that is dumb. Yeah, But that's the
problem I think people have. If you said music Hall
of Fame, nobody would argue with that. With Mariah Carey,
they wouldn't. But rock and roll they're like, well, she's
not rock and roll.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
No, she's not.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But these are the new inductees, you know, Chaer, Foreigner, Dave,
Matthew Ban.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't get too caught up in it.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I only get caught up when I feel like somebody
is not in and and Foreigner bothered me that they
weren't in. I just thought, you know, they cranked out hits.
Speaker 11 (38:53):
Yes, Mark Peter Frampton, I don't remember, but he had
a big live album.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Did he have anything else?
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Huge?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
One of the biggest albums of all time, Frampton Comes Alive.
Did he have a sustained greatness over his career? No,
but Frampton Comes Alive. That was a big deal.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Yeample Peter Frampton's like an NFL running back, running for
two thousand yards and not doing much else. Remember Chris
Johnson of the Titans. Yeah, he's Chris Johnson. Did Peter
Frampton invent that weird sound that's that? No?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Because well, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I think if you look and listen to Joe Walsh
on Rocky Mountain Way that he uses, I think that's
the same instrument.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Now I don't I don't.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Want to know.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
The talk box is that what it is? I don't
want to be told, you know, stay in my lane here.
But feels like Joe Walsh may have had that earlier
than Peter Frampton, who really popularized it most effectively. Really
is bon Jovi?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Where Where, Where Where?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Where?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
He's got Bora is all over that talk box. He's
got some vocal cord issues bon Jovi. He has for
a long time.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
I just saw there's a documentary coming out, four part
documentary on bon Jovi, I think on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Let's go just announced, and I think he's putting out
a new album.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
But Richie Sambora, I don't know if they're going out
on tour, but he's not going to be with them anymore.
They're behind the music was one of the best behind
the musics ever. That show on VH one.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Really, Oh god, was it?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Maybe it's just because I'm from Jersey, Oh my god,
it was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Was there drama?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
There was drama, yeah, and it was not not like
like the worst drum drugs and women.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's I don't.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Know, it's just funny that it's bon Jovi. It's the
best though.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Yeah, Yes, Paul Snead O'Connor nominated, didn't make it in
this year. Usually she was nominated, she passes away, and
you think they put her in this year?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, huh yeah, yes, Ton tear.
Speaker 11 (40:55):
A picture of the Pope on Sauray Night Live. That
may keep you out a little bit, shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Oh, I don't know. That sounds like rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's like the punk rock and roll is first ballot.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yes, yeah, let's go. Final hour on the way.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
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Pull question.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Our two is going to be what seat no Connor?
Our two is going to be Jaden Daniels related. Okay,
if you are Jadendaniels, you dot dot dot are happy
to go to the commanders or hope someone trades up
for you. Well, the reason why this is kind of
bubbling right now, First of all, we don't have that
headline heading into Draft night on Thursday night. We assume
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Caleb Williams is going to go number one, Drake May
Jaden Daniels number two. Then the other one will go three.
JJ McCarthy will probably be in there. Somebody will trade
up to four or five. Michael Pennix. It feels like
is gaining momentum. Bo Nicks might be dropping a little bit.
But as far as drama here, not a lot, but
(01:24):
it feels like there's the potential for some drama that
Jade and Daniels, or at least his representatives, have presented
the possibility that he's upset that the Commander's brought in
four quarterbacks on the same day to work out if
I'm the number two overall pick. I don't want these
other players coming in and if I'm not the number
(01:46):
two pick overall.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
This was last Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The store story started to come out because you brought
in these quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Are the commanders not sure right now?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I like that they're doing their due diligence. It makes
me nervous that they're still doing their due diligence. You know,
the Bears have decided on Caleb Williams. There's no drama there.
People have tried to manufacture stories. Oh he didn't want
to go there. Certainly sounds like he wants to go there.
In fact, he was on the Pivot podcast and had
this to say.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Now that I want to play at one place for
twenty years and chase one guy number twelve. I want
to place that loves ball, you know. That's all I've
heard about is Chicago so far, which is exciting for
me because LA was great, but there is probably double
digits of teams here.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's a big.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Pool of you know, so you have to be winning championships,
you have to be playoffs every year to have you know,
the fans and things like that show up. And so
one thing, you know, if it was Chicago's a place
that I've heard that they love ball, which is really
exciting for me. It's something that I'm looking forward to
and embracing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
If the Commanders had the number one pick, he'd probably
say all the same things. Man, they love ball here.
I can't wait to go there. I'm going to chase
number twelve, Tom Brady, but saying all the right things.
And I'm just surprised if you get a once in
a generational count, once in a generation talent and nobody
is offering to move up to get him.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That I find surprising.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, we've had teams go up to number two,
but going up to number one that you know, you
do the math and what it's going to take as
far as draft picks, and then you say is it
worth it? It's almost like it might be worth it,
but we're going to take maybe somebody who is a
B plus instead of Anus here and we'll live with that.
(03:39):
You don't want to give up everything you have, all
of your draft picks, and then you get a guy
then you can't help him out. But as far as
Jaden Daniels with the Commanders, I think the last time
I look at DraftKings, they had odds of who was
going to go number two and was it Drake may
or Jayden Daniels. And I think those odds have been
flip flopping a little bit here because they're not quite
sure what Washington's going to do. But we'll talk to
(04:02):
Tom pelsero NFL Network Insider about this, and a lot
of times the agents start to get involved. Now then
you start to give a little bit more of the
Somebody is saying something about somebody, or you could be
saying something about somebody else's talent. Somebody else's player and
(04:22):
trying to get somebody to fall. GM's scouts sometimes will
leak something out there. You know, I'm here and I'll
go back to the NBA draft. On the night of
the NBA Draft, I had an agent come up to
me and he said, does Billis have his draft board there?
And I go, yeah, I'm sure he does. He goes, yeah,
(04:43):
I'm curious where Brandon Roy is. I said, well, I
think he's like top five, maybe going to Portland. He goes,
I don't know about the knees. I go, well, what
do you mean. He goes, Now, he's got some bad knees.
So I said to Billis, I said, hey, ran into
this agent and he brought up Brandon Roy's knees and
then I think BILLI said, yeah, I think most people
(05:05):
are aware of that. And it turned out that Brandon
Roy was a really good player but a short period
of time and had bad knees. But you get that
where somebody will say, hey, what are you hearing about,
and then if you say nothing, they'll go, oh, you
haven't heard about and then they'll give you something along
the lines of you should keep an eye on this.
So a lot of it is gossip. A lot of
(05:27):
it is to you know, ulterior motives. Nobody's being altruistic
to help me host the NBA Draft. It was, hey,
you know, you might put that out there that Brandon
Roy turned out. I think he was Rookie of the Year,
was a really good player, but then didn't last long.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yes, Paul, I'm looking back at some old draft coverage
and remember when Blake Bortles was taken by the Jaguars.
I think third overall, I'm looking at the draft, but
people are shocked on the set. I think one of
the analyst says, he was not in our plans at
all for them. They didn't even bring him in for
an interview. They didn't work him out. They hid Blake Bortles.
They had planned on him the whole time and talked
(06:04):
nothing about him. It's the thing you don't expect that
could happen. That's the best part about it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, we had him on after the draft and we
were just talking about, you know, how did that process
work that you didn't go in. He said, well, you know,
they did an interview with me and I said any
strange questions and he goes, well, they ask about my
girlfriend and at the time.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's when you were allowed to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I guess I'm going to use quotations to ask these
uncomfortable questions with your potential draft picks there.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He started out well and then all of a sudden
he sort of became who we thought he was. But
I remember, hey, would they go after Johnny Manzil? You know,
there was all this speculation and Jacksonville didn't tell anybody anything,
and then all of a sudden, they're taking Blake Bortles,
and then people had to go, wait, he'd play it
like Central Floord.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Wait where did he play?
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Everybody was scrammed because they're not thinking Blake Bortles is
going to go number three overall?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Didn't he throw thirty five touchdowns?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Paulie?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
What a weird career. His second year in the league,
he was had thirty five touchdown passes, then got worse.
But was it? Was it twenty seventeen they almost made
the Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Him when they lost to the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Yeah, that Miles jack play or they.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Should have won, They should have gone to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, twenty seventeen, they were two and one in the playoffs.
He had three touchdowns and no picks and they almost
went to the Super Bowl. His career was had one
more year. Basically, oh it is that a weird career.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But you didn't interview him like, you didn't work him out.
You didn't want to let anybody know anything. Sometimes you
can outsmart yourself, all right, Pole question for hour two
is what see o Connor? Yeah, we're gonna go with
Jaydeen Daniels. Are you happy to go with the Commanders
or would you hope somebody trades up for you? Well,
(07:53):
I think there's a relationship with Antonio Pearce from Arizona
State for Jade and Daniels. I think Antonio Pierce was
on HERM. Edwards staff, and so I think people are
kind of trying to connect the dots of hey, what
about the Raiders? Well, what do the Raiders have to
give up to go up to number two? And you
(08:16):
know Tom Pelsara will set a straight on this, but
that's what I'm wondering. Do the Raiders do they want
to go up and get Jade and Daniels? Can they
go up and get him? And you kind of have
to go to two because if you go to three,
what happens if the Commanders go uh, I think we're
gonna take Jade and Daniels. Then you're like, uh, we're
(08:39):
gonna take Drake may or JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You got to go up make sure you get your guy.
It's like the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The Vikings, Okay, they got two first round picks, they're
going to go up and get Okay, you're fine with
getting the fourth quarterback there, getting JJ McCarthy. But even
what Sean Payton said last week, and I say this
every draft, don't get a quarterback. Get your quarterback, because
if you go into that, I remember the Bengals took
Achille Smith, a nice player at Oregon, but it's like, hey,
(09:09):
we got to get our quarterback, and Achille Smith wasn't
a good NFL quarterback. Hey we got a quarterback, Get
your quarterback. And I think that's what Sean Payton. Keep
in mind, when the Broncos brought in Sean Payton, they
had to give up a second round draft pick. I believe,
so they don't have that second round pick this year
you're trying to get a quarterback. It might you might
(09:32):
prevent them from getting a quarterback because you can't trade
your second round draft pick here. But it feels like
Sean Payton and the Broncos now should be a player.
The Broncos uniforms are being released today, they're dropping today. Yeah,
have you seen any Have there been any leaks here?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
There's been a little purposeful leakage. Is it like to say,
you can't really see the stripes, it's all about the stripe.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Sounds like a problem that you have. What are you
suffering from purposeful leaking.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
After four hours? No, I haven't seen anything. I saw
some helmets, but it may have been one of those
bait things where they try to put out a fake count.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, who puts out a uniform where you go, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like a lot of it is you know, you're sort
of working in the context of what your uniforms look like.
Unless it's those throwbacks from the nineteen forties when the
Packers would have those or the Bears. All right, those
are unique, But I'm talking about your every every week uniforms.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, palling.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
A lot of people want the La Rams to go
back to their uniforms from the late seventies early eighties,
and they do, like in drips and drabs, they like
have throwback weeks and do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
There are these the gold pants? The yellow pants?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Gold pants? Kind of classic?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
This Vince Ferragamo, Yeah, the Faragama era.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Hmm, man great looking for.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It is Ferragamo, Garoppolo before Garoppolo.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Call great call Pastorinius.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I still think the Rams are taking a quarterback high. No,
I'm not high. I'm just saying I think they're going
to take them high up.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yes. So the Broncos are an interesting case study because
they've had some bad uniforms in their past, but they've
had good, good play with bad uniforms in the Lway days,
the later Lway days when they actually won it, and
the early and then when Manny was there. Their uniforms
are horrid, but they won. So it's very confusing. It
it makes you think their uniforms are better than they were.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They were horrible, no drama in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yet it's almost like uniforms don't impact how you win
or lose it all.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Whoa, whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
You don't think did you ever play better when you
had a better uniform when you were younger?
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I do believe there is a whole like look good,
feel good, play good mentality.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I do believe that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I can remember my senior year in high school and
we got new uniforms, you know those ones that look
like hoosiers that you know, shiny pants. We got rid
of all of those things, really short shorts, and then
we had a little bit, you know, lower shorts and
a different shade of green for the mighty mighty comments.
And I remember putting those things on. We had black
(12:06):
high top converse. We were ready. We were ready. Come
and get some mister outside, mister inside, coming to your town.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I always thought that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers couldn't win
a Super Bowl with those copper pewter uniform Yeah. Did
they win it?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Two? Yeah, despite the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Uniforms, I guess, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But they they won it with Brady, didn't. They have
kind of the same uniform.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
There, kind of a little more orangey.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
If they went back, you'd have to go cream sickle
in the Super Bowl, Doug Williams, that'd be awesome. Yeah, Well,
Doug didn't get to the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The Jets new uniforms aren't really new, they're just repaired.
They're less awful, but they look more like eighties Jets uniform.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We're still trying to fix the Eagles. They got to
get the green, right, you know, it's it's there's black
and there's green, and it's dark green, and it's just
they need to they need to have Harold Carmichael Green back.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes, time, is that the Kelly green?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Is that the color that they referred to them?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Maybe right?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
The current Eagles colors are midnight green, black, white and silver. Yeah,
done work, big mess, No done a team? Yeah that
they could be even better? Correct them?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They had better green? Scott and Ohio, Hi, Scott, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Day? Good morning? How you guys doing great? Scott fantastic?
Got a stand of the day for you?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
All right? Marvin hit the music.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Three players in NBA against Green were Scoring champ and
NBA All Defense in the same year. The logo one
time Mamba twice, mister Michael Jeffrey Jordan nine times.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Thank you, Scott, well done here? Yeah, Mike did it
what eight or nine times? Every year that he won
the scoring title, he was First Team All Defense? Jerry
West that happened? And who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Kobe? Kobe did it twice?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. We'll talk some football.
With Tom Pelsero. Why haven't the Bears announced that Caleb
Williams is their guy? They allowed to? And what's going
on with the commander is the number two pick as well?
We'll have that for you. Also, the NBA has announced
the NBA finalist here not surprised at the list. We'll
(14:46):
talk about that as well. Back after this on The
Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm watching the Duke story unfold right before our very eyes.
Their roster is changing rapidly and another transfer there.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I know they have a.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Couple of really good five star maybe the best player
in the country and Cooper Flag, but a lot of
turnover there. But John Shire, man, this is about nil.
It's changing now. I don't know if they would have
stayed if coach k was coaching there. Probably so John
Shire's losing his roster, turning it over. And that's surprising
(16:17):
because players don't transfer from Duke, but they are now
and it's nil, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Yeah, we're reading a lot of local stories down there,
and they're having trouble putting their finger on the reason.
It could be playing time. It could be losing playing
time to the new draft class. There are some Nil
stories that are unbelievab about the numbers being to poach players.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, you know, they got one player's transferring to Baylor
and he was all acc roach and I guess if
they're gonna you know, from what I'm hearing, and I
don't know if this is factual, but just what I'm
hearing is Duke doesn't believe it has to pay with
others have to pay because it's Duke. But maybe that
is going to change. Tom Pelisero, NFL Network Insider, he'll
(17:01):
be part of the draft night and he'll join us
coming up here in a little bit and get his
thoughts on a couple of things draft related. But yeah,
back to Duke. They have a couple of really high
end draft picks here that are coming in for one
and done. But that's the new you know, college basketball
landscape with nil? How long do you want to stay?
(17:23):
When am I going to get paid? Players are using
this is leverage to say, look, I'll stay if I
get or you guarantee me the things that are asked
for would probably blow your mind whether it's true or not.
But having somebody tell me what these kids ask for
or what they're representative ask for, because a lot of
(17:44):
times the player doesn't want to go into the coach
and say coach, it's the representative who will say or
agent will say, hey, he'll stay if or if he
doesn't get this, he's going to go here, or they're
paying him here, he's going to go there. Hey, can
you guarantee that he's going to start? You ask for
(18:04):
whatever you think you can get. Now you might be
turned down with ninety percent of it, but these players
know that they have leverage. Hey, I can go across
the street and play right now. It didn't used to
be that. So the deterren was do I really want
to transfer and sit out a year? Well, now it's changed.
Coaches can leave and coach right away. Now players can
(18:27):
leave and play right away. Yeah. Do you think any
of this has to do with Duke also looking to
go in a new direction on how they structure a
team and recruit kids.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, because they have two to one and donners coming in.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't know if they're getting transfer portal. But like
if I'm John Shire, I mean, these kids nowadays don't
look at Duke the way we did, where you're like,
oh man, you got an opportunity to go to Duke.
At one point people stop going, oh man, I got
to go to UCLA. Well, when you're not winning titles,
then all of a sudden they go, I have one
(19:03):
to go to Georgetown. Hey, I want to you know,
be a fab fiver. I mean their kids, man, I
know they just got a saw headline. They got a
kid from Syracuse's transfer yes, yes, which is great. I
don't ultimately I don't know big picture exactly what that
means for the program, but.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
While they might be trying to change they did. They're
bringing in two of the top players in the country
and one is going to be one and done for sure.
But I'm i'm I'll be interest. I'll be interested to
see how they build rebuild that roster. And that's saying
a lot for Duke to rebuild a roster. Tom Pelso
joining us, He's a part of the NFL draft coverage.
(19:45):
That'll be uh well, they got all kinds of things
coming up. The coverage starts the twenty fifth, twenty six,
twenty seven tomorrow at eight Eastern on NFL Network. The
Emmy winning series NFL three sixty will air a draft
special featuring Tom on. Tulane quarterback Michael Pratt, the perfect
prospect in this year's draft, who will have a number
(20:06):
seven jersey and a believe in number seven tattoo number
of a former high school teammate, late friend who passed away,
Bryce Gouty So. The story features how Pratt keeps the
spirit of Bryce and his late brother David alive. Tom
joins us on the program. Now, all right, Tom, let
me give you the poll question, seat and give Tom
(20:28):
the pole question at least for this second hour. If
you were Jaden Daniels, you were happy to go to
the commander's or you're hoping someone trades up.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
I would fairly say Jayden Daniels would love for someone,
specifically the Las Vegas Traiders to trade up. But Washington has,
let's say, demonstrated some inflexibility in terms of moving.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Out of that pick. It's an unique situation.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Obviously, barring the world collapsing tomorrow, Caleb Williams is going
to go number one to the Chicago Bears, which which
Washington atop the draft. They've thoroughly examined everybody. I know
that there are people there who really liked Drake may
JJ McCarthy impressed everybody who was at his pro day,
including the commanders, which is part of why they did
the unique thing last week with bringing all those quarterbacks
(21:16):
plus Michael Pennix in for a group visit. Now, I'd
say there are not people within the league who were
calling our team doing this with quarterbacks. There's plenty of
teams who bring in the group visits the forty nine
ers or one of them. That's where Adam Peters, the
general manager, comes from. But with quarterbacks usually you want
to spend the maximum amount of time with them in
every facet of the building. I would point out there's
(21:39):
only one player who got a ride from the airport
from dan Quinn. That was Jayden Daniels. Everybody else rode
the shuttle bus. So if you want to read into
the transportation the signals here, you would say it's pretty
clear that Jayden Daniels is going to be the guy.
And I would say within the league that would be
not necessarily the expectation, because until the pick's done, there's
(21:59):
enough movie hearts here things can change. But I would
certainly say the most likely scenario when you talk to
people within the league is Jadeningals goes number two and.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know how this works. We're looking for a story.
Sometimes you create more of a story than there's really there.
Does Jade and Daniels want to go there? Was he
bothered that they brought in all these quarterbacks on the
same day to work out. And I don't know if
it's what's real or not in this situation, but I
got a factor in Antonio Pierce's relationship with Jayden Daniels
(22:27):
going back to Arizona State. I think that's real. I
just don't know do the Raiders have enough? Well, first
of all, would the commanders be willing to listen? And
do the Raiders have enough to move up to number two?
Speaker 9 (22:40):
I can tell you the teams that have called Washington,
and this goes back to the Combine.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
This goes back to last month.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Every time people have called watched it about number two,
the answer has been, yeah, we're probably keeping the pick.
Now is there some type of an offer of you know,
Mike Ditkis style, here's our next three drafts. Maybe everybody's
got a price eventually here. But yeah, to think too,
Dad about the number of voices that are in that
room right now. For Washington, you got Josh Harris, who
is a new owner going through his first draft. He's
(23:09):
been in every Combined interview, he's been at the visits,
He's intimately involved in the process. You got Bob Myers,
the former Golden State Warriors GM, who is at the
Combine and has been advising Josh Harris, going all the
way back to the coaching and GM search. You've got
Obviously Adam Peers, who's the GM Magic Johnson I guarantee,
(23:29):
has found a way to voice his opinion on what
should happen here. You've got dan Quinn, you got Kingsbury.
That's a lot of different people from different backgrounds that
are going to be weighing in on the topic here.
From Jane Daniel's perspective, you're right he was recruited Arizona State.
Antonio Pierce was a big part of that. James's mom,
who is very involved in his life and his career,
has been helping kind of steer things all along here.
(23:52):
It's a little bit curious that he would want to
reunite with someone taking them back to the Arizona State
days since Arizona State did not end well for a
variety of reas and it was at LSU the Jaden
Daniels really found himself.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
But there's a comfort level there. He would like to.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Be in Las Vegas. It's just at this point, unless
you're going to pull a major lever here and try
to go full Eli Manning, it's just difficult to pull
this off. And for Washington, it seems like as they've
continued to go through this process, the arrows are pointing
toward them just taking Jade and Daniels making the best
of it in terms of getting him on board, Which
(24:27):
is the other reason that if you're Jaden Daniels and
you've got any trepidation about going someplace in South Las
Vegas when you think you'd want the team to spend
as much time and have you meet with everybody and.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Sit down and go through the playbook and.
Speaker 9 (24:39):
Whatever else, that didn't necessarily happen to the same extent
that Jayden Daniels or as people would want to. But
ultimately it's on Washington to make that pick, and the
signs keep pointing toward that being number two.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Why aren't the Bears publicly declaring that they're taking Kida Williams.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
I don't think they're really allowed to Dan. The NFL
frowns upon that. They like to have some level of drama,
even though there's not really a whole lot of drama.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
To be had.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well, what do I mean allowed to what?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Like?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
What would they get?
Speaker 10 (25:05):
It?
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Doesn't want The NFL wants the first time that it's
official to be on national TV.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I get it, I get it. But if I'm the Bears,
I want what's best for the Bears. In my fan base,
we believe in this guy. This is our guy, and
there we have no questions whatsoever. You know what, We're
going to play the game on Draft night, but this
is our guy. We want you guys to know instead
of having your fan base go and we should have
(25:31):
kept justin fieldser I don't know about this guy, like, uh,
you know, we should take Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Here's what I would tell you, And there are some
people within the league who who buy into Jayden Daniels
is going to be a better NFL player than Caleb Williams.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Cayl Williams, though, is the consensus top pick in this draft.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
I would tell you behind the scenes, everything that the
Bears have done for the past several months has been
with an eye toward we are building this thing for
Caleb Williams. You make an offensive coordinator change. You bring
in Shane Waldron's worked with different types of quarterbacks in Seattle.
They think that he's a really good fit for Caleb Williams.
You go, you signed DeAndre Swift, You trade for Keenan Allen.
(26:11):
You retain your offensive line coach Chris Morgan because he's
a really good run game, guys. You make sure you
got that in place. They've obviously built that defense. It's
a top ten caliber defense. And then you signal to
Caleb Williams that you're all in on him by trading
Justin Field for a sixth round pick early in the process,
rather than dragging that out to the draft. Now, could
(26:31):
they have just gotten on the phone and told Caleb
that as opposed to trade and away Justine Fields for
six probably that would have probably had the same effect here.
But what they've done over the last couple of months
here is when Caleb Williams came in for his visit,
they sent him out to dinner with a bunch of
their key players and make sure everybody was in a
good spot there. They've stayed in touch with Caleb Williams
via zoom since that day, going through just talking football
(26:55):
stuff with him. This is all clearly geared toward Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I get it. They're taking him. I just I said that.
I was told by a.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Source the Commissioner, or at least the Home Office, discourages
you from making this public. That's what this comes down to.
They just want that to be the first announcement. It's
the big night for the commissioner in the NFL. I
get that. I know you're short on time over under
quarterbacks in round one. If I set the number at
four and a half, now I'll set it five and
(27:26):
a half.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
I mean, that's the correct line right there, that's where
I would set it. I would take right now, sitting here,
I would say six quarterbacks going round one. And that's
in part because this is a unique class where if
you get beyond the first six, arguably seven, because there
are some people who have Spencer Rattler in their top six,
some have them ahead of Michael Pennis. There's really not
a whole lot of other guys. There is Michael Prad
(27:49):
you mentioned We've got a great feature coming on in
NFL three sixty tomorrow night. He's probably a late day too,
early Day three guy. I think Joe Milton, the guy
with the howitzer from Tennessee, he's going to get taken
late just based on trades, and that might be it.
That might be the only quarterbacks to get drafted other
than maybe there's somebody in the seventh because there's a
competition to sign him as a PFA and you don't
want to go down. The seat is take them late.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
But that's it.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
So you have more teams right now that need quarterbacks
than there are quarterbacks to be taken. So if you
go right down the list right now, all right, Caleb
Williams to the Bears, barring something totally unforeseen, at number one,
let's give the Commanders Jayden Daniels a two.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Somebody then takes in all likelihood.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
Not necessarily one hundred percent because JJ McCarthy's in that
mix two, but somebody probably ends up with Drake may
at number three, whether that's the Patriots, the Giants, or
the Vikings in a trade up scenario. JJ McCarthy then
goes somewhere I would think between four and eleven, which
then still leaves the potentially of the Broncos, the Raiders,
some of the wild card teams like could the Rams
(28:48):
potentially take one as well. I think that there's a
lot of people within the league who believe if the
Raiders cannot go get Jayden Daniels, which by the way,
would be totally out of character for Tom to LESCo
to make a trade up, the general manager there appendix
is the guy who makes a lot of sense for
the Raiders and then bow Knicks.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
He's got a lot of fans around the league.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Let's say you're the Vikings and you get shut out,
you can't trade up, you miss out the Giants Tate McCarthy.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
And you're stuck.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
You might think, hey, we got not just number eleven,
we got number twenty three. Bow Knicks might be there,
And then the question is does a t are you
worried about a threat from a team like the Rams,
whose general manager Less Need played with bo Nix's dad
and is known forever Matthew Stafford's toward the end that
you feel like we need to get up ahead.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
You know.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
The Vikings are really, I think one of the fascinating
teams this entire draft, because yes, they signed Sam Darnold,
but they don't have another guy right now.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
They clearly want a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Everyone's been talking since they acquired the twenty third pick
that are right, they're gonna package him and move up,
but someone needs to be willing to move down for
you to move up if they get stuck there. I
really believe any of those other five guys are possibilities
for the Vikings to take, whether it is some at
some point in round one, or if they try to
get up there and take one at the top two.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I know you busy. Thanks for joining us, Tom, Thanks
all that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's Don Pelacero, NFL Network Insider, part of their draft coverage,
and tomorrow at eight eastern the Emmy winning series NFL
three sixty Draft Days Special featuring the two lane quarterback
Michael Pratt. We'll give you our best and worst of
the weekend. Coming up, Doug in North Carolina. Hi, Doug,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 10 (30:23):
Well, Dan, Wilmington, North Carolina. First off, and I have
to tell you that the best of the weekend is
our favorite son, Michael Jordan owned a car that won
Talladega yesterday. The worst of the weekend is on Friday,
our favorite son, Michael Jordan stabbed the city in the back.
We had plans to build a museum in downtown Wilmington,
(30:44):
Wilmington in his honor, Michael Jordan Museum. Everything was signed
and field, and on Friday he announced that he didn't
want to have it here in Wilmington. This is a
guy that and Polly may be able to say the
same thing about Chicago, but since he's left, he's shunned
this and he wants nothing to do with us, and
he's it feels like he's broken the hearts of a
lot of people here in Wilmington, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
MM, thank you, Doug. Yeah, I didn't know about the
Mike museum. How often do you turn down a museum
that's in honor of you?
Speaker 10 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
It was just announced on Friday. The new Hanover County
officials said they planned Michael Jordan museum will not go forward.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Did they run this by Michael before they announced that
they were going to have a museum?
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Were they surprising him with it?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Guess what, Mike?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And he said, guess we got a museum.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Mike, can we have a bunch of memory, your memorabilia
to throw it to? Mm? No, it turns out you can't.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I appreciate that, but uh no, I'd rather you didn't.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Yeah, it's it's unclear why the family changed their mind
or refused to cooperate.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
He's been trying to sell his museum in Chicago for
a long time, but too many twenty three's all over
the place. Well, I hadn't sold his house's Yeah, that's
that's yeah, that's his museum.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, The news released to not state a specific reason
from the by the Jordan family decision.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Why do why do people not want to buy Michael
Jordan's house? I know there's a lot of twenty three.
Positive it is because you have to take down all
the twenty threes. I'm positive, But that's what you're buying.
You're buying Michael Jordan's house. Don't you want what comes
with Michael Jordan's house. Go into the bathroom and you
turn the two and the three for hot and cold water.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's like, good god, it's.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Down to fourteen to eighth. It was like twenty one million. Yeah,
there's no way around it. Like I'm looking at the pictures.
A non sports fan would know Michael Jordan's live here.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, But but you would think there would be a
fanatic out there that would go, I got Michael Jordan's house,
and I got stuff that goes along with that. You
got the basketball court there, and you know, granted the
gate has a big two and a three on it,
and he's.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Got a casino in one level, there's like a poker
playing room.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't know, Like if you bought is there another
athlete that like Shack's house, Shack's House in Orlando. I
don't know if that was up for sale, but it's
it's scaled to Shack. You can't be like Danny DeVito
and you you know, you buy the Shack House.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
How many seven foot billionaires are there?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't know if you have to be a billionaire, okay,
but still you have to buy a house. I heard
the story about Horace Grant when he played with the Magic.
He had a house in winter Park, but it was
for a six to nine guy, and then the person
who bought it had to lower like the countertops, and
(33:39):
you know it had to be you know, kind of
normalized with something like that. Yes, Marvin, And.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Why are there goggles at the gate.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
For Horace Grant?
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Yes, dud And Joran's got that wagging tongue chandelier above?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
True?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You know that's not true. Does the doorbell you have
to push? It's like, guishy, can you press a doorbell?
It berates visitors, it tells them I'm better than you think.
Let's take a break. We'll give you our best and
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Speaker 11 (34:30):
I'm not I know who they are.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (34:34):
They were a constant like, oh are you going to
in high school? Are you going to Dave? Dave Matthews
was on tour every single summer, and the kids in
my high school that wore the shell necklaces, they were
gonna go see Dave Matthews.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I like Grateful Dave. You know, he's fun, good band.
It's a good time and Hall of Famer. I was
in a movie with him, Just Go with It out
in Hawaii. Got a chance to spend some time with him.
Very funny guy, very sharp guy. Got to see the
show a couple of times. So happy for Grateful Day.
If you ask Paul, I don't like.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
When people don't like a band and say they shouldn't
be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You
should acknowledge someone's success or fan base or whatever it
may be, because like there's some eras that some people
don't like. I'm looking at the list of bands that
are not in and there's a lot like Iron Maiden's
not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It
seemed like they had a very successful run.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Okay, wait, so why can't I not like a band?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
No, you cannot like a band, but you should look
at them objectively and say they should be in the
rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Like Mariah Carey is
not in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She
seems like she's really successful and I'm not a fan
of her work.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, yeah, I see.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
So if you're looking at them objectively, you just have
to say they should be in.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
No, I'm saying, like, can you discuss someone and not
like them, Like I don't like Mariah Carey's music, But
if you look at like, almost like a judging for
the Basketball Hall of Fame, you may not be a
fan of a player, but like the work speaks for itself,
or the success speaks for itself. See and you love
the band. I love the band New Order a very
popular band in the new wave of Air of the eighties.
(36:14):
I'm sure a lot of people don't like them, but
their success stands for itself.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I'm confused that I have to respect a band
but not like a band.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
Yeah, well, you know you can. Can you look at
a band objectively if you don't like their music.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, there's players in the Hall of Fame who I
don't like, but I understand that they're in the Hall
of Fame, then they should be I guess if that's
what you're saying. Yeah, I mean I usually judge these
kinds of things by what they did for music and
did they once their existence?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Were they either so tremendously.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Successful that that speaks for itself, or did they change
the direction of music once they it was going one
way and then they existed and now it splintered off
into another direction? That to me is always something that's like,
oh damn, that they were really really important by Sirvana
did this? Yeah, Nirvana would certainly be one of them,
or even maybe Tribe Coal Quest. That could be why
(37:09):
they got in. You know, there's a lot of different
artists that are like that New Order probably being one
of them.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I don't know if I can go by just what
they did for music. I mean, there's certain bands or
artists that I don't know if they changed anything, but
they added too. I mean, Foreigner didn't really change music.
They just had a bunch of hits and they're going
into the rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and I
don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, Paul, I'm going through this list. I'm just cringing
at certain names, like share very successful singing career, right, Yeah,
she'd never been nominated for the rock and Roll Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay, which is a travesty in itself.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Yeah, I think that's snarky.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, part of this is, like Mariah Carey's not rock
and roll. There's nothing rock and roll about her. It
should be labeled the music Hall of Fame. If it's
the rock and roll Hall of Fame, then there's a
lot of artists who shouldn't be in. Mariah Carey is
one of the most successful, is arguably the most successful
female artist of all time. Like, of course, of course
(38:14):
she needs to be in. It's crazy. But but when
we say rock and roll, she's not rock and roll. Yeah, yeah,
but that's it's that is dumb. Yeah, But that's the
problem I think people have. If you said music Hall
of Fame, nobody would argue with that. With Mariah Carey,
they wouldn't. But rock and roll they're like, well, she's
not rock and roll.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
No, she's not.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But these are the new inductees, you know, Chaer, Foreigner, Dave,
Matthew Ban.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't get too caught up in it.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I only get caught up when I feel like somebody
is not in and and Foreigner bothered me that they
weren't in. I just thought, you know, they cranked out hits.
Speaker 11 (38:53):
Yes, Mark Peter Frampton, I don't remember, but he had
a big live album.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Did he have anything else?
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Huge?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
One of the biggest albums of all time, Frampton Comes Alive.
Did he have a sustained greatness over his career? No,
but Frampton Comes Alive. That was a big deal.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Yeample Peter Frampton's like an NFL running back, running for
two thousand yards and not doing much else. Remember Chris
Johnson of the Titans. Yeah, he's Chris Johnson. Did Peter
Frampton invent that weird sound that's that? No?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Because well, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I think if you look and listen to Joe Walsh
on Rocky Mountain Way that he uses, I think that's
the same instrument.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Now I don't I don't.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Want to know.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
The talk box is that what it is? I don't
want to be told, you know, stay in my lane here.
But feels like Joe Walsh may have had that earlier
than Peter Frampton, who really popularized it most effectively. Really
is bon Jovi?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Where Where, Where Where?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Where?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
He's got Bora is all over that talk box. He's
got some vocal cord issues bon Jovi. He has for
a long time.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
I just saw there's a documentary coming out, four part
documentary on bon Jovi, I think on Hulu.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Let's go just announced, and I think he's putting out
a new album.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
But Richie Sambora, I don't know if they're going out
on tour, but he's not going to be with them anymore.
They're behind the music was one of the best behind
the musics ever. That show on VH one.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Really, Oh god, was it?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Maybe it's just because I'm from Jersey, Oh my god,
it was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Was there drama?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
There was drama, yeah, and it was not not like
like the worst drum drugs and women.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's I don't.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Know, it's just funny that it's bon Jovi. It's the
best though.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Yeah, Yes, Paul Snead O'Connor nominated, didn't make it in
this year. Usually she was nominated, she passes away, and
you think they put her in this year?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, huh yeah, yes, Ton tear.
Speaker 11 (40:55):
A picture of the Pope on Sauray Night Live. That
may keep you out a little bit, shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Oh, I don't know. That sounds like rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's like the punk rock and roll is first ballot.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yes, yeah, let's go. Final hour on the way.
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