April 24, 2024 • 40 mins
NFL Draft prospect Drake Maye joins the show to talk about his expectations for tomorrow’s NFL Draft. And NFL Draft analyst Matt Miller stops by to break down what we can expect tomorrow.
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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talk to Drake may here momentarily, we will talk to
Matt Miller ESPN Draft Animal. Is there a chance New
England is the team that's going to change the first
round of the draft, and that is that that pick,
that third overall is up for grabs because do you
want to bring in Drake Mang who may not be
ready to play right away? Do you want to build
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your team and then worry about your quarterback next year
or the year after that. Every year we talk a
lot of times, we talk about the quarterbacks who aren't
available last year at this time, what were we talking about.
Man if Caleb Williams was in this year's draft, Okay,
now he's in this year's draft. And then we'll have
some quarterbacks who are going to be available, and then
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you're going to have teams go, do we tank for
this guy? You know, is this guy worth trading up for?
Minnesota needs a quarterback, Denver needs a quarterback? The Raiders,
Seattle might be, the Rams might be. You have more
teams who need quarterbacks or at least are interested in quarterbacks,
then you do have actual quarterbacks. I spoke to a
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source last night who had high praise for spend Sir Rattler.
Remember when he was a thing, when he came out
of high school, he was a thing, and then all
of a sudden he wasn't and then kind of had
a reclamation season with South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But yeah, some positive.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't know if it's because it's you know, supply
and demand. Hey, well he's considering the quarterbacks are available. Yeah,
he's in the mix there. I don't know if he's
a franchise quarterback. But there was high praise for Spencer Rattler,
Bo Nix, Michael Pennix Junior, the third somebody's going up,
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somebody gets squarely. It happens every year where you go.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Man, I did not see that coming, but that's gonna happen. Yes, Pauline,
you can.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Never be hotter as a quarterback than when you're not available.
Remember years ago, I could find stories Christian Hackenberg at
Penn State when he's a freshman. If the draft for today,
Josh Rose in a freshman at UCLA, if the draft
for today, Yeah, if he went a year earlier, yeah, oh,
but he stayed around Sam Donald, Sam Donald and Donald
Kapla Williams. A year ago, there was not even a
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discussion whether he was the number one.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Pick of the draft.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
It was the biggest lock of the past five years.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And you still get these stories that come out. And
a story came out where might have been a GM
who said, hey, he reminds me of Prince, and I
go the musician, Yeah, you know, like do you want
that kind of player, that personality? I go, well, I
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don't know. Prince is one of the most talented musicians
of old time. Like was he different? Yes, but is
that a reason why if we're having a draft, would
I draft Prince?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I would. I draft him pretty high, But I don't
know where, Like we're really trying to reach with some
of these quarterbacks and go. You know that guy, I
mean he might be wearing dresses or you got his
fingernail polished. Can you play when you get on the field, yes.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Pa, No one Evers said Prince was too short to
be a star rocker. No, A lot of people. Some
people question it, but not the people who knew music.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, you know at the music combine. I mean he
tested pretty high. Yeah, that dude who crazy talent him?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
All right?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Drake may set to join us. He's partnered with Low's,
teaming up with them in the NFL. A local community
project in Detroit surprised a local contractor with an invitation
to go to the draft.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
By the way, Lowe's built the green.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Room there and you're going to get to go and
announce an NFL pick. So they surprised a local contractor
there and Drake may set to join us on the program.
Before we get started, give me your official height and
weight bisial.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Height and weight six four and a half two twenty
five right now, probably close two thirty when I get
closer to season, but twenty five right now?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Best athlete in the family.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Is I'm a mom?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Your mom?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, sir, Yeah, she was a great athlete in high school.
She doesn't show as much now, but she grabs some
clubs and uh, you know, played nine holes, she'll play eighteen.
But she she grabs some clubs, she'll she'll still beat
us us us us brothers. So it's it's pretty sad, but.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
About it with you and your brothers. Best athlete amongst
the three?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, myself. I think it's a pretty easy answer athletes,
But I'll take myself all right.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Uh, what's the best thing that's happened through this whole
process so far?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The best thing that's happened, you know, I think the
chances to reflect on my college years and how far,
how many different people, you know, kind of poured into
my life and being a chance to reflect and see
how many special people in my life and maybe this
moment special and to be here on Thursday with all
my my family and all my brothers coming into one
place and all my friends and family to enjoy one
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moment kind of reflect on that and kind of you
always dream of this and kind of coming to it
and realizing that it's about to happen. It's pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
What team did you grow up liking?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh, Panthers fan. He was Panthers fan. You know, we
got season tickets and you know, when Cam Newton came
and it was you know, it was the best thing ever.
So we are big Panthers fans.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Have you met Cam?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I have?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I have?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
He played I played him in seven on seven He
coached seven on seven team and we played him, you know,
growing up, and he had He has a good squad.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He's a big guy.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, it's huge. Yeah. I'm about six six four and
a six five and he's been like two inches tar
than me, probably like thirty pounds on me. So he's
a big dude.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
As far as other teams that you visit, give me
something interesting that you've been.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Asked instant I've been asked.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's a good question. Probably the most interesting they've been
asked is kind of why me. I think that's that's
always the most interesting. You know, you always start with
that and say, watch we draft you, And I think
it's one of those questions that hey kind of puts
you on the spot, but to kind of ready for it.
So I'm just ready to be kind of be the
guy and ready to kind of translate my game in
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the NFL. I'll fit in the NFL game a little more.
And I'm excited for that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, But when they say why you do, they want
to know if you want to start? Like is that
part of this too, that hey, I want to commit
and start or yeah, you know that we we'd prefer
somebody to come in and want to learn exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's why it's tricky. You kind of have to play
it both ways because obviously, you know, the competitor and me,
you want to go in there and start right away
and you know, be a be a be the gay,
the you know, the game one guy and the day
one starter. But the same time, that's not reality and
get you ready forever. So I'm just kind of ready
to compete that, you know, like I'm going to be
the starter and you know, up to their decision, but
I'm going to try to prove that I'm ready to
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be the starter. Other than that, you're ready, you know,
to learn and and uh, you know, wait until you
know I'm iron that job.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
What's it like to read the negative reviews.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, try not to. I think that's the you know,
the biggest fault of athletes in our space, especially how
base social media is nowaday. You know, so many, so
many fans out there that that don't like you, and
there's even more that that're a fan of you. So
try to enjoy the positives. And you know, unless it's
my coach or well, my family members or somebody in
an inner circle, you know, saying something negative about me
or someone I need to change, and that's you know,
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it's a different, you know, different subject than you know,
Joe smo works at Applebee's or something.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But do do your brothers look for the negative stuff
just to give you grief? To say, like, if you
were my brother, I'd be trying to find some things
to needle you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Would your brother stoop to that level?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No, we got real personally they would. But I think
my brothers have been three of my biggest supporters, So
I think, uh kind of much to get to this
stage in the NFL. There's so many people out there
that that aren't fans of you and saying, you know,
negative stuff. So I think if your brothers, you know,
I think it's a certain point.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Maybe in high school sports you get on for something,
but kind of on this stage, I think it's a
little bit past.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That favorite quarterback when you were growing up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Favorite quarterback Cam Newton was my first one, being a
big Panthers fan or Anon Rodgers. I was a big
Annon Rodgers fan.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Have you met Rogers?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm not, Nope, but I have not.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, let's go around the room. Has Drake met Michael Jordan? Todd,
I'll start with you.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'm gonna say no, Seaton. I got to know on
that one, Marvin. Yes, Paulie Drake played basketball.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
He's been in his presence before Michael Jordan's presence.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And his brother played on a national title. Yes, yes,
in North Carolina. I'm gonna say, yes, you've met Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I have met him.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
J all right, pretty mj oh, it's MJ. Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
If you call him your goat, he's got to be MJ.
Speaker 9 (11:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You don't call Michael Jordan, you call him the goat, MJ.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So what'd you talk about.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm met him at the halftime with one of the
basketball games. I'm not getting recruited. Coach Brown, you know,
brought me down there and very sweet.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's nice. That's a part of your NIL package. You
get to meet Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I was in high school. In high school before I
even uh committed, so I was committed Alabama at the time,
so getting to meet him, you know, getting to meet
him was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, what's that conversation like when you call Saban and
you say, coach, I'm not coming to Alabama.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah? Tough. Yeah. I tried it for a while. You know,
being with coach Saban, he's one of my favorite and
recruiting process, so having to tell him that I'm gonna
stay home was tough. But I think coach Savan understood
and shoot, you know, maybe they would have worked out
a little differently by the same time. You know, coach
Saban he's you know, I think he's the goat of
college football.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So he did. Okay he did. Okay, you're not all right?
Uh Draft night suit? You already got it picked up?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm simple, no swag, so I'm gonna keep it simple.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Okay, is there a light blue Carol? Is there a
Carolina blue in the suit?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I mean, you want to, you know, find out.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, because you might do like a New York Giants
blue or.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's that's a little too world closer to Duke. I
can't wear blue at all.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Or you could have like Patriot blue in there, yes,
that Navy.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
So if i'd wear any blue would be Carolina.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Do you know where you're going?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I wish I did, and I wish it was that easy. Nothing.
I'll know when I hear that phone ring.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But do you I mean, do you have an idea?
You know, have to tell me, but do you have
an idea?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't think I have an idea. Okay, all right?
And do you like the cold?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I don't mind it at all. Okay, you gotta play football.
Football is cold, wetter sport nowadays.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I just want to make sure. Do you plan on
hugging the commissioner or you're going to give like just
a firm hamshick.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Mmm.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I ain't thought about that one hugging him. Oh, I'm
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It strikes me as a hugger. You did. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Maybe maybe uh maybe like a like a dap and
a one arm around okay, you know a hug, a
two arm hug. It doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But don't treat him like your mom when you come home.
You know that when when I see the draft, guys
do that and they pick him up and we don't
need that.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
That'd be that'd be funny. We got I think pretty
cool though. Some of the big d linemen are off
the line, and I think that fits so all right.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You want to be the next Peyton Manning when it
comes to selling products. So here's your turn. You're you're
joining us on behalf of Low's. Let me hear Drake
may pitch Lows.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, first off Lows. You know it's a snow kind
of company. It was an easy fit for me. I
was excited when this opportunity came kind of right Off
the Bat was joining joined their home team as the
newest member, and ra Off the Bat them helping in
the community and got a community service event tomorrow. I'll
be helping out at I'll just give him back the community.
It means so much to me and kind of an
easy fit. You know. I grew up you know Loaws
right across the street in the neighborhood shopping center. And shoot,
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when we had our our we need our driveway extended,
we went to Lows to get a half court hoop
and uh you know, get ready to go. And we
had our our backyard. We had a long part forty
our backyard that we painted with Low's pain and we
did it all. So H think, you know, one of
the coolest things. I was here two weeks ago and
we came in the Lows and I did a you know,
kind of a pre draft, little draft shoot and it
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was awesome. We got we even surprised one of the
local pros at Low's, you know, with the chance to
go up on stage and announce a pick and just
stuff like that just means so much to me. And uh,
Low's is a great company and a partner of the NFL,
and little things like that go a long way. And
my family is you know, full surprises. We love surprising.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So that fit right in uh is the green room
built by Lows.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It is you had loads did it all, you know,
the draft stays did it all. So I got to
walk by it and preview all, you know, two weeks
ago and I get a little preview, And now walking
across the Thursday will be we'll be special, even more
special now that you know I got to see it
before and partner to the lows and know that they
all did the work.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So well, good luck, good luck with the giants and uh,
you know, we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Wait, you started thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You didn't you didn't react when I said good luck
with the giants there.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, shoot, you know, if you could throw an any team
in there now, I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Ready to play forever Carolina. You're not going to be playing.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
For Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I wish. So now it's got
to handle.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hey, good luck, congratulations, have fun Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Thanks, Dan, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Uh, Drake may Hey, he wishes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And a lot of times you'll get I'm hearing Okay,
I don't know you're who you're hearing from. That's always
dangerous because you can you can circle a comment or
a quote or opinion by saying, you know, I'm hearing
from who. I've had neighbors who want to talk sports
and they'll go, hey, you know what I'm hearing. I'll go,
who are you hearing it from? First of all, Hey,
(16:34):
the mailman Jimmy Lipper down the block and you're talking
to him. You know I'm hearing Yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is it that Cardinals pick of four? That's the real
wild Card.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think the Patriots at three now they may say, look,
we're set on our quarterback. We got our quarterback, and
we're not going to be up here in a position again.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
They are classic trader outers though nothing yes, well Belichick was,
Belichick was, yeh yeah, you know the Cardinals pick and
then you got the Chargers, and it feels like those
teams are you know, in business to move down?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Question is what's it cost to move up. We'll take
a break.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We'll talk NFL Draft with Matt Miller get his final
mock draft here. Also, we'll keep an eye on the
Reggie Bush story. We did hear from a former Heisman
Trophy winner who was at the reception, the ceremony this morning,
so it's already happened that Reggie got his Heisman back.
And we heard from a Heisman Trophy winner who said, yeah,
(17:34):
I was there, send us a picture and I go,
I'll be damn, they've already done this breaking news. Yes,
I love that. Yeah, I think there were like ten
to fifteen Heisman Trophy winners who showed up for this.
So we'll see if we can get more information for you.
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Speaker 2 (18:47):
Still a wild story this morning. Reggie Bush has already
gotten his heisman back. Had a ceremony this morning. Saw
a picture with him in the former Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch,
arm in arm and they're like, yeah, Reggie's back in
the I don't know how early this was that they
was everybody up early in Los Angeles to be able
to do this. Were they in Florida. Looks like it's
(19:10):
warm weather, but it's early, and Reggie got his heisman back.
I just want to know NCAA involved in this. To
what degree does it stop a defamation lawsuit? I will
bring you back the question and Reggie's answer when he
joined us in January when I asked him about that,
would you drop the defamation lawsuit if you get all
(19:31):
your records in the heisman back? So we'll have that
for you coming up. Matt Miller is a busy guy.
He's a draft analyst for the Mothership. He'll be part
of the broadcast there on ESPN and ABC kind enough
to join us. How close are the top quarterback let's
say the top four quarterbacks?
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Yeah? Pretty close. I think for me, Cal Williams is
far and away the best, and I think he's in
a tier by himself. Jayden Daniels says separated himself over
the last year, certainly, but definitely over the past few months,
I think as well. And then you have Drape May,
who some people like a lot. JJ McCarthy again, who
some people really really like. But I do think that
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they are much closer now than they were four months ago.
You know, like the last time we saw these guys
play football, they were not very closely raped. What happens
over the course of the process is guys interview.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Well.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
JJ McCarthy's pro day was one of the best pro
days that a quarterback has had in a couple processes,
and in the interview process also teams fall in love
with these guys and that over inflates their stock a
little bit. I think that's what we're seeing. If for
these quarterbacks go in the top six tomorrow night, and
I think they will, then we're looking at another draft
in which teams have fallen in love. Because we're in
(20:45):
this model of you go up and get your guy
or you wait for the next year. The second round
quarterback kind of dead, like the developmental quarterback is dead.
You either get a top ten pick or you sometimes
you get lucky with the bron party.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Where's the draft start?
Speaker 8 (21:03):
I think it starts at three. Caleb Williams is gonna
go first. That is the worst kept secret in the
world right now. I feel very strongly Jayden Daniels goes
number two, but I think there is room. I don't
know if they're top golfing in Detroit today that maybe
we can figure out exactly who's gonna go number two.
But I feel good about Jayden Daniels going to I
think they've smoothed over their differences. Three is where it
(21:23):
starts because New England could certainly stick and pick. They
could take Drake may They could run it back with
another Michigan quarterback. Jim Harbaugh says, Jim McCarthy's the greatest
Michigan quarterback of all time. If you believe that, then
you have to take him over Tom Brady. But I
think three is where it starts because they could take
one of those guys. They could do the kind of
crazy thing and take Marvin Harrison Junior, who is for
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a lot of people the best player in this draft.
Or they could trade back, and I think all those
scenarios are certainly on the table. The hard thing with
New England is we don't know who's really running the
show there. Is it Jonathan Kraft is it? John Mayo?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Elliott Wolf? Is kind of a consortium of people who
are calling the shots there, so it makes it difficult
to try to even know who to call, and also
to predict based on you know, maybe what they've done historically.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know if somebody's asked Jim Harball of this,
but I would say, Jim, you love JJ McCarthy, you
really love him, Well, why don't you trade Justin Herbert?
And then you'll get JJ McCarthy on his rookie deal?
And wouldn't that be better suited for building this team?
How do you think he would answer that question?
Speaker 8 (22:31):
I don't think he would. I think we would get
I'm sure you remember San Francisco forty nine ers era
Jim Harball was a lot different than Michigan era Jim Harball.
You would get the most sarcastic answer after he stared
and blinked at you for several seconds, making you feel
like you're the dumbest person on earth. He's really calmed
down in his old age. So I don't think you
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would answer. But that is a fair question. Hey, if
McCarthy's this good, why not trade Herbert? And I'm sure
his answer would be, you know, some type of pr
spin of he's the best in this draft, but Justin
would be, you know, the number one guy if he
were in it. But I know they're you know, early
on those those conspiracy theories definitely existed.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We're talking to Matt Miller, ESPN Draft expert. Give me
the team that could really like turn this sideways, and
maybe that's New England, but I don't. Is there another
team where you go, wow, that could really shake up
the first round?
Speaker 8 (23:25):
New England definitely is the one.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I think.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
The other right now is if the Minnesota Vikings don't
trade up to get the quarterback. You know, six weeks
ago they acquired the Houston Texas first round pick that's
number twenty three overall, so they're sitting here right now
picks eleven and twenty three. No team has ever acquired
a first round pick six weeks before the draft. It
just doesn't happen unless it's in the top three and
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you know you're getting a quarterback. So they really signaled
at that point we're open for business. We have two
first round picks. We want to go get a quarterback.
If they don't do that, it would be I think,
very surprising, very risky. If you you know, you're Minnesota
and you have the same grade on JJ McCarthy and
Bo Nicks, maybe you sit there at eleven, say hey,
JJ doesn't make it to us. Cool. You know, we'll
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take a corner or a defensive tackle and then at
twenty three we'll draft Bownicks. It's risky, but you could.
You could certainly do that, and I think we've we
saw this last year with Houston and Arizona being super aggressive,
but also they played the board really well to get
into the ideal positions to take their guys. And I'm
very curious to see if we see copycats tomorrow night
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of teams that think, hey, we'll trade back a couple
spots and then if we need to, we'll just move
back up. It's risky, but it makes it a lot
of fun if it works.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
And it feels like once again we have a plethora
of wide receivers, like top end wide receivers, but there
are a lot of draft experts scouts who don't want
to take a wide receiver in the top five or
even top ten. Where do you stand on that?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I think if it's an elite prospects like Marvin Harrison Junior,
then you do it. I would put the leak neighbors
and roll with Doings up there as well. They would
all three would have been the number one receiver last year,
no matter how you had it ranked, they would have
been drafted highly last year as well. I think guys
like Zay Flowers and Jackson Smith and Jig but Jordan
Addison would be probably drafted in the late teams to
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early twenties this year like they were last year. But
you know their draft stock would say about the same.
So I get the argument of, hey, this is a
position you can find value late. First look at Justin Jefferson.
You can find value in the second round. You have
aj Brown and Deebo Samuel and Rashid Rice. Last year,
I had a huge year for the Chiefs. This is
a second round pick, so you could certainly find that
value in round two. I think when it's a transcendent player,
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you know, like Jamar Chase was. When you can get
a player like that, it's worthy of the top ten pick.
But you certainly hear that, you know, of top ten
should be a quarterback, a tackle or a pass rusher.
You know that's that's really it. Now this year we're
going to see a lot of that. We're going to
see a lot of those guys early. But the expense
of wide receivers. Justin Jefferson's going to get like thirty
million dollars a year has made it to where if
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you can hit on one even in the top ten,
it's still a really good value.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Okay, I'm wondering about this with Justin Jefferson. You let
Kirk Cousins go. You got Jefferson there, he's going to
charge you. You know you're gonna it's gonna cost you
thirty million dollars. You're going to bring in a rookie
quarterback or maybe you have Sam Darnold there, are you
really threatening this year? What could you get for Justin
Jefferson that once again allows you to reset everything. If
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you're going to draft a quarterback, now I got to reset.
You got Addison there, you got a running back there,
got an offensive minded head coach. But what do you
do say, Look, we have the best receiver in football.
We're going to keep him and help out our rookie
quarterback at thirty milliye.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
That's the I think that's what they're going to do,
because your fan base would revolt if you traded a
twenty five year old best receiver in football. But that's
you know, in your hypothetical here, if you called the
Arizona Cardinals and said Hey, instead of taking a chance
on the best receiver in the draft, we would trade
you the best receiver in football. It's going to cost
you four overall. The Cardinals have twenty seven overall, so
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you're probably gonna want that, and I would want more
than that, though, I would want more than the two.
First for Justin Jefferson, even understanding that you're gonna have
to turn around and pay him.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, but I don't want to pay him thirty million.
I would rather take one of these other receivers that
it just I mean, we're looking at Dallas right now, Matt.
I mean they got to pay Dak because Jerry handled
this poorly. Cede Lamb should be locked up.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He's going to cost you even more. Micah Parson's going
to cost you thirty million c D. Lamb probably twenty
five or so, and then Dak's going to cost you
fifty five to sixty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You can't wait with that.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
You can't. Dallas is a poor blueprint for what anyone does.
I mean, it's terrible. Three you could argue the three
most important positions of football, and they have guys entering
the contract here at the same time. It's it's not
a good plan. I think Philadelphia is the model of
you draft good players and you pay them early, you know,
and there's a risk. We've seen that blow up, you know,
with Daniel Jones and Carson Wentz and some of the
(28:04):
some of the quarterbacks. I would argue they weren't good players,
they were just they were just paid because of you know,
sentimental value. But I think that's the idea is draft,
you know, draft Devon to Smith that when you realize
he's a hit, you pay him after that third year
because the salary cap is only going to continue to,
you know, go up at astronomical value, and guys are
gonna just want a bigger piece of that pie. So
I'm with you, don't do not look at Dallas if
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you're an aspiring general manager, don't look at what Dallas
has done. Or you know the New Orleans Saints teams
like that that every year they're trying to scramble to
figure things out because they've mismanaged either their salary cap
or the way that they do their contracts.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
What do you think Buffalo does.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
I think Buffalo would love to move heaven and Earth
to get Roma Doonze and I actually I completely agree
with this strategy. If you're Buffalo and you've gotten so
close to to taking over the AFC, but you can't
beat Mahomes and the Chiefs, you just can't do it
when it matters. So you've gotten that close, why not
go all in to try to do it? And I
(29:03):
don't know that a you know, pick at twenty eight
overall is going to be the difference for them. I
think now's the time you know that you're going to
be picking late in the first round every year because
you have Josh Allen and you have a good coaching
staff that it's always going to put a good defense
out there. How valuable is next year's pick number twenty
eight or twenty nine overall if you could take this
year's first, next year's first and get Aroma Dune, say
(29:23):
in the top ten, potentially, I think Buffalo is one
of the few teams really where you can make that
argument of you're close. You have the quarterback, you have
the infrastructure. What you need is like you were saying, Dan,
you need that rookie wide receiver. You need that guy
making five million dollars a year who could be one
of the top players at his position, So why not
go for broke? What do you have to lose? If
(29:44):
you're Buffalo, You've gotten you know, you've had leads. You
were up with thirteen seconds left in arrowhead like you're there,
So why not make that big play, the splash move,
you know, the Julio Jones type trade to go get
a roma dune.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Say give me your wild prediction for tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
That would be one the buffalo. Just I had a
scout text me this, The Buffalo is going big game
hunting when it comes to the wide receiver. So that
was something that I toyed with in my final mock draft.
I still think Michael Pennocks Junior is one of those things.
And I know you know a lot more people than
I do, but it's the one thing that I can't
stop hearing is that Michael Pinnox is going to go
(30:23):
in the top twenty. He's going to go a lot
earlier than people think. So I don't know if I'm
being told that, So that I'll hop on the Dan
Patrick Show and say it and teams will oh panic
and freak out that, oh my gosh, Michael Penock Junior
is going earlier. But a lot of folks are saying
that to the point that it's hard to tune it out.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I heard the same thing, you know. One of my sources,
whose a scout, said he just consumes football like we
love it. The injury doesn't the injuries don't scare us.
We loved what we saw, and I go, okay, because
I'm trying to figure this out, like who's really telling
you the truth and right? But I don't know if
anybody reacts to this. Matt if if all of a sudden,
(31:01):
Sean Payton's going, wait, what did Dan say? Now We're
going to have to go up and get in We
got to spend I don't know if anybody, if you,
are reacting to what we're saying. I got real concerns,
you know, for those gms and coaches, But I.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Know they you know, I'm not trying to brag about
this like they read the mock drafts because I get
the called, you know, like, hey, who do you have
us taking? I was at Michigan's prota and a GM
came up to me, and actually I felt bad. I
didn't recognize him because I was kind of in the bulment.
He's like, hey, who do you have us taking and
I was like, oh, oh yeah, okay, I have you
taken this player? And it was like okay. And so
(31:37):
maybe he just wanted to start a conversation that way.
But I do think that they I do know that
they read the mock drafts and they listen to the
intel because maybe, you know, maybe mel Kiper hasn't dug it.
That will actually help you. You know, know that you
have to jump someone.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
To get your player good to talk to. You know,
you're busy, have fun tomorrow and night. Thank you man,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst, part of ESPN's coverage.
Something's happening, something has to happen tomorrow night. I just
feel that way. Wow, oh we just got this. Am
I allowed to read this?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Tod Sure?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Okay, you know what, I'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This is from a former Heisman Trophy winner who was
at the ceremony this morning for Reggie Bush, and I'll
bring back part of the interview I did with Reggie
when I ask him, would you drop the defamation lawsuit
against the NCAA if they said, here's your Heisman and
your records back.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We'll have that for you coming up.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wap UH.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Just got this from Eric Crouch, former Heisman Trophy winner
quarterback at Nebraska. The Heisman winners didn't know about this
happening today. It was a surprise to us. The location
was Ponta verdre verdre Beach, Florida. Or is it Pontra
Vidra Vidra. Yeah, Ponta Vidra. I think that's the home
(33:13):
of the PGA, the Heisman Summit. I believe Reggie is
on his way back home now. It was exciting to
see him to get his trophy back today. Eric Crouch
and so Eric in a picture there with Reggie Bush.
So I guess they invited Reggie. Reggie knew he was
going to get the Heisman. Those showing up probably went, wait,
(33:34):
what's Reggie doing here? Or maybe you bring him in
a big surprise. He comes in. You know, he's got
the Heisman with him. Guys are sitting down having breakfast,
probably signing some autographs there, maybe playing some golf. Reggie
comes in he's got his suit on, bring the heisman in,
have all the heisman winners there. Because this wasn't one
(33:55):
of those Hey I'm hearing that this might happen. It was,
this happened, and now we're going to report on it.
That's what happened with the ESPN. It happened.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And then all of a sudden, it's like Reggie's getting
his heisman back.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Yes, what if Reggie was invited to the summit and
he's like, no, I'm not going to be around or
I'm not interest are not available, but they want to
do this big surprise, and then they got to ruin
the surprise on the phone. Is the only way to
make sure he Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't think he was surprised when he got there.
I think Reggie went there knowing he was getting his
heisman back. I don't think he was like, hun, going
to Florida. They want me to go to the Heisman Summit. Well,
why they won't give you your heisman back?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's food and drinks.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, it sounds like fun.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, No, I'm going to guess they say to REGI, Hey,
we're going to surprise the heisman winners, and uh, we're
happy to give your heisman back. I'm guessing that's what happened.
Eric in Pennsylvania. Good morning, Eric, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Hi? Six one two five. I just wanted to kind
of throw a scenario that old guy like me get
off my line, kind of guy, what's right? The rules
in place? They want their penny bang buscus. I got
to get out of here before they with Reggie and
(35:08):
all the players, nothing roles. In two thousand and four,
here's a kind of a similar thing to see, see
what you guys think. In two thousand and four, the
speed limit of my road was fifty five. I was
caught going seventy, so I was fined. He got points
twenty twenty four. The speed limits seventy on my road.
Do I get my points back? Do I get my
money back? I mean, it's just to me again, old
guy here just saying, why don't they just let it go?
(35:30):
I'm glad he's getting it, a guess, But when the
rules change and they weren't that way when you got it,
I mean, how do you I'll all of a sudden
say forget about it.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
So now I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Eric, he broke a rule and it cost USC dearly
cost him the Heisman trophy. Does the USC get the
national title back? I mean, those are the things that
I want to know. You want to give Reggie a trophy?
Go ahead, we all know what we saw. He was
the best player in college football. But USC lost it title,
(36:01):
They lost whatever fourteen wins Pete Carroll and then the
sanctions that were imposed on USC. I mean it decimated
the program, all right. So Reggie was on the show
back in mid January, and I asked him if he
would be willing to Now there's a defamation lawsuit going
on with the NC DOUBLEA. Now that doesn't have anything
(36:23):
to do with the heisman, but are the two combining
their efforts here to stave off a defamation lawsuit by
Reggie Bush? So I asked him, would he be willing
to drop his defamation lawsuit with the mc DOUBA in
return he gets his records and his heisman back.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
It's too late, it's too we passed.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
We way past that.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
We pass the But if they restore your records, then
you get the heisman.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
They're gonna have to do that anyway, that's gonna happen anyway.
All that's gonna happen anyway, because again, I don't know
if you heard what I said.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
A lie is a lie, right, and so if it's
a lie, then it's going to be exposed.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Right.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
We'll find out in his lawsuit, you know what I'm saying.
We'll find out who's really telling the truth. And that's
what's the most amazing part about it is.
Speaker 12 (37:13):
We've never young, We've never been able to do this
for so long, I've never been I haven't been able
to do this, which is you know, father's lawsuit against
the NCAA until they made that statement, you know.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
And so that's again, that's that's what you guys are
seeing now for the first time, you're seeing my story,
my case being tried in an official way, you know,
in the court of law, which is something that the
end of the way, has.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Never had to do.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
They never had to prove their case in the court
of law.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So that was January sixteenth of this past year. And
he sounded pretty confident there, right, Marvin working together, Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
I think the Heisman when they decided to do this,
alerted the NCAA and then said they didn't want any
part of it because the nca usually fights to the
death against things like this.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
But if they can fend off a defamation lawsuit, would
you be willing to swallow your pride and go okay?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
All right?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Knowing the NCAA, I think they would fight it for years.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
But just a new new regime, you know, Charlie Baker,
that's fair. So maybe you just have somebody who has
a different mindset, maybe a little more open minded to
this and willing to go okay.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
But the can of worms they may have opened. I mean,
if I'm Michigan Basketball.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
If I'm fab five, I'm like, hey, we'd liked our
banners back.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Lawyer up, Yes, this might be too harsh, But what
pride does the NCAAA currently have left?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Like, I'm not joking.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
They have conferences openly revolting saying we're just going to
form our own thing in the next couple of years.
That I mean they they are completely silent in all
matters other than their name being at the top of
the March Madness Tournament.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
NCAA strip usc of fourteen wins the games that Reggie
played in, including the national title game against Oklahoma. Reggie
filed the defamation lawsuit against the NC double A in
August of this past year. Yeah, it feels like there's
a little bit more to this, but all quiet on
(39:25):
the western frontier.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Yes, Lincoln Riley said he's going to get a national
title for USC football. It's under his watch. He's the coach. Yeah,
he can somehow get him a national title. They'll overlook
that it's from oh four.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, it gets celebrate have a parade, right, yeah they do.
Heck yeah, all right, more phone calls coming up. Final
hour and once again we got phone calls out to
a lot of people. I've heard from one source who
does believe that this is kind of a combo platter
with the heisman in the NC DOUBLEA to try to
(39:56):
stave off the defamation lawsuit. But that's what I I
would want to know with Reggie, because he sounded pretty
confident that no, it's too late. He said, well, now
that you have the heisman, is it too late? Can
you just say, Okay, we got what we wanted. You
admitted you made a mistake, and I get to have
my heisman.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yes, Tom, And he.
Speaker 9 (40:17):
Said they got to give it back to me anyway.
He's really he would double down with you. In that interview,
saying this is going to go forward, regardless of giving
me it back or not.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
All right, update our poll results have a new poll
question for the final hour the day before the day
of the draft. Todd's here, Satan, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly
in the back room, guys, Final hour this Wednesday, just ahead,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Wednesday, Our one flew By
had breaking news to start the show. According to ESPN,
Reggie Bush is getting his Heisman trophy back. First question
I had was is he dropping his defamation lawsuit against
the NCUBA, and more importantly, does USC get.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Its national title back?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But we got calls in to the nc DOUBLEA, Pete Carroll,
Reggie Bush, Fritzie is working feverishly to advance the store.
If we locate somebody willing to come on and talk
about it, I would love to have the NCUBA come on,
or at least a statement from them. Did they do
this in conjunction with the Heisman Trust? I would be
(00:47):
surprised if the Heisman Trust acted upon itself and acted
on its own and said, you know what, on further review,
we're giving Reggie his Heisman back. So also, Reggie joined
us in January of this year, January sixteenth, and I
did ask him, would you drop your defamation lawsuit? If
you get your collegiate records restored, you get your heisman.
(01:10):
As a settlement we'll have We'll bring back a portion
of that interview coming out.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
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England is the team that's going to change the first
round of the draft, and that is that that pick,
that third overall is up for grabs because do you
want to bring in Drake Mang who may not be
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your team and then worry about your quarterback next year
or the year after that. Every year we talk a
lot of times, we talk about the quarterbacks who aren't
available last year at this time, what were we talking about.
Man if Caleb Williams was in this year's draft, Okay,
now he's in this year's draft. And then we'll have
some quarterbacks who are going to be available, and then
(03:36):
you're going to have teams go, do we tank for
this guy? You know, is this guy worth trading up for?
Minnesota needs a quarterback, Denver needs a quarterback? The Raiders,
Seattle might be, the Rams might be. You have more
teams who need quarterbacks or at least are interested in quarterbacks,
then you do have actual quarterbacks. I spoke to a
(03:57):
source last night who had high praise for spend Sir Rattler.
Remember when he was a thing, when he came out
of high school, he was a thing, and then all
of a sudden he wasn't and then kind of had
a reclamation season with South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But yeah, some positive.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't know if it's because it's you know, supply
and demand. Hey, well he's considering the quarterbacks are available. Yeah,
he's in the mix there. I don't know if he's
a franchise quarterback. But there was high praise for Spencer Rattler,
Bo Nix, Michael Pennix Junior, the third somebody's going up,
(04:38):
somebody gets squarely. It happens every year where you go.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Man, I did not see that coming, but that's gonna happen. Yes, Pauline,
you can.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Never be hotter as a quarterback than when you're not available.
Remember years ago, I could find stories Christian Hackenberg at
Penn State when he's a freshman. If the draft for today,
Josh Rose in a freshman at UCLA, if the draft
for today, Yeah, if he went a year earlier, yeah, oh,
but he stayed around Sam Donald, Sam Donald and Donald
Kapla Williams. A year ago, there was not even a
(05:08):
discussion whether he was the number one.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Pick of the draft.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
It was the biggest lock of the past five years.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And you still get these stories that come out. And
a story came out where might have been a GM
who said, hey, he reminds me of Prince, and I
go the musician, Yeah, you know, like do you want
that kind of player, that personality? I go, well, I
(05:34):
don't know. Prince is one of the most talented musicians
of old time. Like was he different? Yes, but is
that a reason why if we're having a draft, would
I draft Prince?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I would. I draft him pretty high, But I don't
know where, Like we're really trying to reach with some
of these quarterbacks and go. You know that guy, I
mean he might be wearing dresses or you got his
fingernail polished. Can you play when you get on the field, yes.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Pa, No one Evers said Prince was too short to
be a star rocker. No, A lot of people. Some
people question it, but not the people who knew music.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, you know at the music combine. I mean he
tested pretty high. Yeah, that dude who crazy talent him?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
All right?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Drake may set to join us. He's partnered with Low's,
teaming up with them in the NFL. A local community
project in Detroit surprised a local contractor with an invitation
to go to the draft.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
By the way, Lowe's built the green.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Room there and you're going to get to go and
announce an NFL pick. So they surprised a local contractor
there and Drake may set to join us on the program.
Before we get started, give me your official height and
weight bisial.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Height and weight six four and a half two twenty
five right now, probably close two thirty when I get
closer to season, but twenty five right now?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Best athlete in the family.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Is I'm a mom?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Your mom?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, sir, Yeah, she was a great athlete in high school.
She doesn't show as much now, but she grabs some
clubs and uh, you know, played nine holes, she'll play eighteen.
But she she grabs some clubs, she'll she'll still beat
us us us us brothers. So it's it's pretty sad, but.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
About it with you and your brothers. Best athlete amongst
the three?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, myself. I think it's a pretty easy answer athletes,
But I'll take myself all right.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Uh, what's the best thing that's happened through this whole
process so far?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The best thing that's happened, you know, I think the
chances to reflect on my college years and how far,
how many different people, you know, kind of poured into
my life and being a chance to reflect and see
how many special people in my life and maybe this
moment special and to be here on Thursday with all
my my family and all my brothers coming into one
place and all my friends and family to enjoy one
(07:52):
moment kind of reflect on that and kind of you
always dream of this and kind of coming to it
and realizing that it's about to happen. It's pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
What team did you grow up liking?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh, Panthers fan. He was Panthers fan. You know, we
got season tickets and you know, when Cam Newton came
and it was you know, it was the best thing ever.
So we are big Panthers fans.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Have you met Cam?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I have?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I have?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
He played I played him in seven on seven He
coached seven on seven team and we played him, you know,
growing up, and he had He has a good squad.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He's a big guy.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, it's huge. Yeah. I'm about six six four and
a six five and he's been like two inches tar
than me, probably like thirty pounds on me. So he's
a big dude.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
As far as other teams that you visit, give me
something interesting that you've been.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Asked instant I've been asked.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's a good question. Probably the most interesting they've been
asked is kind of why me. I think that's that's
always the most interesting. You know, you always start with
that and say, watch we draft you, And I think
it's one of those questions that hey kind of puts
you on the spot, but to kind of ready for it.
So I'm just ready to be kind of be the
guy and ready to kind of translate my game in
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the NFL. I'll fit in the NFL game a little more.
And I'm excited for that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, But when they say why you do, they want
to know if you want to start? Like is that
part of this too, that hey, I want to commit
and start or yeah, you know that we we'd prefer
somebody to come in and want to learn exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's why it's tricky. You kind of have to play
it both ways because obviously, you know, the competitor and me,
you want to go in there and start right away
and you know, be a be a be the gay,
the you know, the game one guy and the day
one starter. But the same time, that's not reality and
get you ready forever. So I'm just kind of ready
to compete that, you know, like I'm going to be
the starter and you know, up to their decision, but
I'm going to try to prove that I'm ready to
(09:41):
be the starter. Other than that, you're ready, you know,
to learn and and uh, you know, wait until you
know I'm iron that job.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
What's it like to read the negative reviews.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, try not to. I think that's the you know,
the biggest fault of athletes in our space, especially how
base social media is nowaday. You know, so many, so
many fans out there that that don't like you, and
there's even more that that're a fan of you. So
try to enjoy the positives. And you know, unless it's
my coach or well, my family members or somebody in
an inner circle, you know, saying something negative about me
or someone I need to change, and that's you know,
(10:11):
it's a different, you know, different subject than you know,
Joe smo works at Applebee's or something.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But do do your brothers look for the negative stuff
just to give you grief? To say, like, if you
were my brother, I'd be trying to find some things
to needle you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Would your brother stoop to that level?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No, we got real personally they would. But I think
my brothers have been three of my biggest supporters, So
I think, uh kind of much to get to this
stage in the NFL. There's so many people out there
that that aren't fans of you and saying, you know,
negative stuff. So I think if your brothers, you know,
I think it's a certain point.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Maybe in high school sports you get on for something,
but kind of on this stage, I think it's a
little bit past.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That favorite quarterback when you were growing up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Favorite quarterback Cam Newton was my first one, being a
big Panthers fan or Anon Rodgers. I was a big
Annon Rodgers fan.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Have you met Rogers?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm not, Nope, but I have not.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, let's go around the room. Has Drake met Michael Jordan? Todd,
I'll start with you.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'm gonna say no, Seaton. I got to know on
that one, Marvin. Yes, Paulie Drake played basketball.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
He's been in his presence before Michael Jordan's presence.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And his brother played on a national title. Yes, yes,
in North Carolina. I'm gonna say, yes, you've met Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I have met him.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
J all right, pretty mj oh, it's MJ. Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
If you call him your goat, he's got to be MJ.
Speaker 9 (11:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You don't call Michael Jordan, you call him the goat, MJ.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So what'd you talk about.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I'm met him at the halftime with one of the
basketball games. I'm not getting recruited. Coach Brown, you know,
brought me down there and very sweet.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's nice. That's a part of your NIL package. You
get to meet Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I was in high school. In high school before I
even uh committed, so I was committed Alabama at the time,
so getting to meet him, you know, getting to meet
him was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, what's that conversation like when you call Saban and
you say, coach, I'm not coming to Alabama.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah? Tough. Yeah. I tried it for a while. You know,
being with coach Saban, he's one of my favorite and
recruiting process, so having to tell him that I'm gonna
stay home was tough. But I think coach Savan understood
and shoot, you know, maybe they would have worked out
a little differently by the same time. You know, coach
Saban he's you know, I think he's the goat of
college football.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So he did. Okay he did. Okay, you're not all right?
Uh Draft night suit? You already got it picked up?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm simple, no swag, so I'm gonna keep it simple.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Okay, is there a light blue Carol? Is there a
Carolina blue in the suit?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I mean, you want to, you know, find out.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, because you might do like a New York Giants
blue or.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's that's a little too world closer to Duke. I
can't wear blue at all.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Or you could have like Patriot blue in there, yes,
that Navy.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
So if i'd wear any blue would be Carolina.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Do you know where you're going?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I wish I did, and I wish it was that easy. Nothing.
I'll know when I hear that phone ring.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But do you I mean, do you have an idea?
You know, have to tell me, but do you have
an idea?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't think I have an idea. Okay, all right?
And do you like the cold?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I don't mind it at all. Okay, you gotta play football.
Football is cold, wetter sport nowadays.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I just want to make sure. Do you plan on
hugging the commissioner or you're going to give like just
a firm hamshick.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Mmm.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I ain't thought about that one hugging him. Oh, I'm
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It strikes me as a hugger. You did. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Maybe maybe uh maybe like a like a dap and
a one arm around okay, you know a hug, a
two arm hug. It doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But don't treat him like your mom when you come home.
You know that when when I see the draft, guys
do that and they pick him up and we don't
need that.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
That'd be that'd be funny. We got I think pretty
cool though. Some of the big d linemen are off
the line, and I think that fits so all right.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You want to be the next Peyton Manning when it
comes to selling products. So here's your turn. You're you're
joining us on behalf of Low's. Let me hear Drake
may pitch Lows.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, first off Lows. You know it's a snow kind
of company. It was an easy fit for me. I
was excited when this opportunity came kind of right Off
the Bat was joining joined their home team as the
newest member, and ra Off the Bat them helping in
the community and got a community service event tomorrow. I'll
be helping out at I'll just give him back the community.
It means so much to me and kind of an
easy fit. You know. I grew up you know Loaws
right across the street in the neighborhood shopping center. And shoot,
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when we had our our we need our driveway extended,
we went to Lows to get a half court hoop
and uh you know, get ready to go. And we
had our our backyard. We had a long part forty
our backyard that we painted with Low's pain and we
did it all. So H think, you know, one of
the coolest things. I was here two weeks ago and
we came in the Lows and I did a you know,
kind of a pre draft, little draft shoot and it
(15:08):
was awesome. We got we even surprised one of the
local pros at Low's, you know, with the chance to
go up on stage and announce a pick and just
stuff like that just means so much to me. And uh,
Low's is a great company and a partner of the NFL,
and little things like that go a long way. And
my family is you know, full surprises. We love surprising.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So that fit right in uh is the green room
built by Lows.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It is you had loads did it all, you know,
the draft stays did it all. So I got to
walk by it and preview all, you know, two weeks
ago and I get a little preview, And now walking
across the Thursday will be we'll be special, even more
special now that you know I got to see it
before and partner to the lows and know that they
all did the work.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So well, good luck, good luck with the giants and uh,
you know, we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Wait, you started thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You didn't you didn't react when I said good luck
with the giants there.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, shoot, you know, if you could throw an any team
in there now, I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Ready to play forever Carolina. You're not going to be playing.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
For Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I wish. So now it's got
to handle.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hey, good luck, congratulations, have fun Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Thanks, Dan, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Uh, Drake may Hey, he wishes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And a lot of times you'll get I'm hearing Okay,
I don't know you're who you're hearing from. That's always
dangerous because you can you can circle a comment or
a quote or opinion by saying, you know, I'm hearing
from who. I've had neighbors who want to talk sports
and they'll go, hey, you know what I'm hearing. I'll go,
who are you hearing it from? First of all, Hey,
(16:34):
the mailman Jimmy Lipper down the block and you're talking
to him. You know I'm hearing Yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is it that Cardinals pick of four? That's the real
wild Card.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think the Patriots at three now they may say, look,
we're set on our quarterback. We got our quarterback, and
we're not going to be up here in a position again.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
They are classic trader outers though nothing yes, well Belichick was,
Belichick was, yeh yeah, you know the Cardinals pick and
then you got the Chargers, and it feels like those
teams are you know, in business to move down?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Question is what's it cost to move up. We'll take
a break.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We'll talk NFL Draft with Matt Miller get his final
mock draft here. Also, we'll keep an eye on the
Reggie Bush story. We did hear from a former Heisman
Trophy winner who was at the reception, the ceremony this morning,
so it's already happened that Reggie got his Heisman back.
And we heard from a Heisman Trophy winner who said, yeah,
(17:34):
I was there, send us a picture and I go,
I'll be damn, they've already done this breaking news. Yes,
I love that. Yeah, I think there were like ten
to fifteen Heisman Trophy winners who showed up for this.
So we'll see if we can get more information for you.
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Speaker 2 (18:47):
Still a wild story this morning. Reggie Bush has already
gotten his heisman back. Had a ceremony this morning. Saw
a picture with him in the former Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch,
arm in arm and they're like, yeah, Reggie's back in
the I don't know how early this was that they
was everybody up early in Los Angeles to be able
to do this. Were they in Florida. Looks like it's
(19:10):
warm weather, but it's early, and Reggie got his heisman back.
I just want to know NCAA involved in this. To
what degree does it stop a defamation lawsuit? I will
bring you back the question and Reggie's answer when he
joined us in January when I asked him about that,
would you drop the defamation lawsuit if you get all
(19:31):
your records in the heisman back? So we'll have that
for you coming up. Matt Miller is a busy guy.
He's a draft analyst for the Mothership. He'll be part
of the broadcast there on ESPN and ABC kind enough
to join us. How close are the top quarterback let's
say the top four quarterbacks?
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Yeah? Pretty close. I think for me, Cal Williams is
far and away the best, and I think he's in
a tier by himself. Jayden Daniels says separated himself over
the last year, certainly, but definitely over the past few months,
I think as well. And then you have Drape May,
who some people like a lot. JJ McCarthy again, who
some people really really like. But I do think that
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they are much closer now than they were four months ago.
You know, like the last time we saw these guys
play football, they were not very closely raped. What happens
over the course of the process is guys interview.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Well.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
JJ McCarthy's pro day was one of the best pro
days that a quarterback has had in a couple processes,
and in the interview process also teams fall in love
with these guys and that over inflates their stock a
little bit. I think that's what we're seeing. If for
these quarterbacks go in the top six tomorrow night, and
I think they will, then we're looking at another draft
in which teams have fallen in love. Because we're in
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this model of you go up and get your guy
or you wait for the next year. The second round
quarterback kind of dead, like the developmental quarterback is dead.
You either get a top ten pick or you sometimes
you get lucky with the bron party.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Where's the draft start?
Speaker 8 (21:03):
I think it starts at three. Caleb Williams is gonna
go first. That is the worst kept secret in the
world right now. I feel very strongly Jayden Daniels goes
number two, but I think there is room. I don't
know if they're top golfing in Detroit today that maybe
we can figure out exactly who's gonna go number two.
But I feel good about Jayden Daniels going to I
think they've smoothed over their differences. Three is where it
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starts because New England could certainly stick and pick. They
could take Drake may They could run it back with
another Michigan quarterback. Jim Harbaugh says, Jim McCarthy's the greatest
Michigan quarterback of all time. If you believe that, then
you have to take him over Tom Brady. But I
think three is where it starts because they could take
one of those guys. They could do the kind of
crazy thing and take Marvin Harrison Junior, who is for
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a lot of people the best player in this draft.
Or they could trade back, and I think all those
scenarios are certainly on the table. The hard thing with
New England is we don't know who's really running the
show there. Is it Jonathan Kraft is it? John Mayo?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Elliott Wolf? Is kind of a consortium of people who
are calling the shots there, so it makes it difficult
to try to even know who to call, and also
to predict based on you know, maybe what they've done historically.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't know if somebody's asked Jim Harball of this,
but I would say, Jim, you love JJ McCarthy, you
really love him, Well, why don't you trade Justin Herbert?
And then you'll get JJ McCarthy on his rookie deal?
And wouldn't that be better suited for building this team?
How do you think he would answer that question?
Speaker 8 (22:31):
I don't think he would. I think we would get
I'm sure you remember San Francisco forty nine ers era
Jim Harball was a lot different than Michigan era Jim Harball.
You would get the most sarcastic answer after he stared
and blinked at you for several seconds, making you feel
like you're the dumbest person on earth. He's really calmed
down in his old age. So I don't think you
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would answer. But that is a fair question. Hey, if
McCarthy's this good, why not trade Herbert? And I'm sure
his answer would be, you know, some type of pr
spin of he's the best in this draft, but Justin
would be, you know, the number one guy if he
were in it. But I know they're you know, early
on those those conspiracy theories definitely existed.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We're talking to Matt Miller, ESPN Draft expert. Give me
the team that could really like turn this sideways, and
maybe that's New England, but I don't. Is there another
team where you go, wow, that could really shake up
the first round?
Speaker 8 (23:25):
New England definitely is the one.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I think.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
The other right now is if the Minnesota Vikings don't
trade up to get the quarterback. You know, six weeks
ago they acquired the Houston Texas first round pick that's
number twenty three overall, so they're sitting here right now
picks eleven and twenty three. No team has ever acquired
a first round pick six weeks before the draft. It
just doesn't happen unless it's in the top three and
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you know you're getting a quarterback. So they really signaled
at that point we're open for business. We have two
first round picks. We want to go get a quarterback.
If they don't do that, it would be I think,
very surprising, very risky. If you you know, you're Minnesota
and you have the same grade on JJ McCarthy and
Bo Nicks, maybe you sit there at eleven, say hey,
JJ doesn't make it to us. Cool. You know, we'll
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take a corner or a defensive tackle and then at
twenty three we'll draft Bownicks. It's risky, but you could.
You could certainly do that, and I think we've we
saw this last year with Houston and Arizona being super aggressive,
but also they played the board really well to get
into the ideal positions to take their guys. And I'm
very curious to see if we see copycats tomorrow night
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of teams that think, hey, we'll trade back a couple
spots and then if we need to, we'll just move
back up. It's risky, but it makes it a lot
of fun if it works.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
And it feels like once again we have a plethora
of wide receivers, like top end wide receivers, but there
are a lot of draft experts scouts who don't want
to take a wide receiver in the top five or
even top ten. Where do you stand on that?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I think if it's an elite prospects like Marvin Harrison Junior,
then you do it. I would put the leak neighbors
and roll with Doings up there as well. They would
all three would have been the number one receiver last year,
no matter how you had it ranked, they would have
been drafted highly last year as well. I think guys
like Zay Flowers and Jackson Smith and Jig but Jordan
Addison would be probably drafted in the late teams to
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early twenties this year like they were last year. But
you know their draft stock would say about the same.
So I get the argument of, hey, this is a
position you can find value late. First look at Justin Jefferson.
You can find value in the second round. You have
aj Brown and Deebo Samuel and Rashid Rice. Last year,
I had a huge year for the Chiefs. This is
a second round pick, so you could certainly find that
value in round two. I think when it's a transcendent player,
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you know, like Jamar Chase was. When you can get
a player like that, it's worthy of the top ten pick.
But you certainly hear that, you know, of top ten
should be a quarterback, a tackle or a pass rusher.
You know that's that's really it. Now this year we're
going to see a lot of that. We're going to
see a lot of those guys early. But the expense
of wide receivers. Justin Jefferson's going to get like thirty
million dollars a year has made it to where if
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you can hit on one even in the top ten,
it's still a really good value.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Okay, I'm wondering about this with Justin Jefferson. You let
Kirk Cousins go. You got Jefferson there, he's going to
charge you. You know you're gonna it's gonna cost you
thirty million dollars. You're going to bring in a rookie
quarterback or maybe you have Sam Darnold there, are you
really threatening this year? What could you get for Justin
Jefferson that once again allows you to reset everything. If
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you're going to draft a quarterback, now I got to reset.
You got Addison there, you got a running back there,
got an offensive minded head coach. But what do you
do say, Look, we have the best receiver in football.
We're going to keep him and help out our rookie
quarterback at thirty milliye.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
That's the I think that's what they're going to do,
because your fan base would revolt if you traded a
twenty five year old best receiver in football. But that's
you know, in your hypothetical here, if you called the
Arizona Cardinals and said Hey, instead of taking a chance
on the best receiver in the draft, we would trade
you the best receiver in football. It's going to cost
you four overall. The Cardinals have twenty seven overall, so
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you're probably gonna want that, and I would want more
than that, though, I would want more than the two.
First for Justin Jefferson, even understanding that you're gonna have
to turn around and pay him.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, but I don't want to pay him thirty million.
I would rather take one of these other receivers that
it just I mean, we're looking at Dallas right now, Matt.
I mean they got to pay Dak because Jerry handled
this poorly. Cede Lamb should be locked up.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He's going to cost you even more. Micah Parson's going
to cost you thirty million c D. Lamb probably twenty
five or so, and then Dak's going to cost you
fifty five to sixty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You can't wait with that.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
You can't. Dallas is a poor blueprint for what anyone does.
I mean, it's terrible. Three you could argue the three
most important positions of football, and they have guys entering
the contract here at the same time. It's it's not
a good plan. I think Philadelphia is the model of
you draft good players and you pay them early, you know,
and there's a risk. We've seen that blow up, you know,
with Daniel Jones and Carson Wentz and some of the
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some of the quarterbacks. I would argue they weren't good players,
they were just they were just paid because of you know,
sentimental value. But I think that's the idea is draft,
you know, draft Devon to Smith that when you realize
he's a hit, you pay him after that third year
because the salary cap is only going to continue to,
you know, go up at astronomical value, and guys are
gonna just want a bigger piece of that pie. So
I'm with you, don't do not look at Dallas if
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you're an aspiring general manager, don't look at what Dallas
has done. Or you know the New Orleans Saints teams
like that that every year they're trying to scramble to
figure things out because they've mismanaged either their salary cap
or the way that they do their contracts.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
What do you think Buffalo does.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
I think Buffalo would love to move heaven and Earth
to get Roma Doonze and I actually I completely agree
with this strategy. If you're Buffalo and you've gotten so
close to to taking over the AFC, but you can't
beat Mahomes and the Chiefs, you just can't do it
when it matters. So you've gotten that close, why not
go all in to try to do it? And I
(29:03):
don't know that a you know, pick at twenty eight
overall is going to be the difference for them. I
think now's the time you know that you're going to
be picking late in the first round every year because
you have Josh Allen and you have a good coaching
staff that it's always going to put a good defense
out there. How valuable is next year's pick number twenty
eight or twenty nine overall if you could take this
year's first, next year's first and get Aroma Dune, say
(29:23):
in the top ten, potentially, I think Buffalo is one
of the few teams really where you can make that
argument of you're close. You have the quarterback, you have
the infrastructure. What you need is like you were saying, Dan,
you need that rookie wide receiver. You need that guy
making five million dollars a year who could be one
of the top players at his position, So why not
go for broke? What do you have to lose? If
(29:44):
you're Buffalo, You've gotten you know, you've had leads. You
were up with thirteen seconds left in arrowhead like you're there,
So why not make that big play, the splash move,
you know, the Julio Jones type trade to go get
a roma dune.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Say give me your wild prediction for tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
That would be one the buffalo. Just I had a
scout text me this, The Buffalo is going big game
hunting when it comes to the wide receiver. So that
was something that I toyed with in my final mock draft.
I still think Michael Pennocks Junior is one of those things.
And I know you know a lot more people than
I do, but it's the one thing that I can't
stop hearing is that Michael Pinnox is going to go
(30:23):
in the top twenty. He's going to go a lot
earlier than people think. So I don't know if I'm
being told that, So that I'll hop on the Dan
Patrick Show and say it and teams will oh panic
and freak out that, oh my gosh, Michael Penock Junior
is going earlier. But a lot of folks are saying
that to the point that it's hard to tune it out.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I heard the same thing, you know. One of my sources,
whose a scout, said he just consumes football like we
love it. The injury doesn't the injuries don't scare us.
We loved what we saw, and I go, okay, because
I'm trying to figure this out, like who's really telling
you the truth and right? But I don't know if
anybody reacts to this. Matt if if all of a sudden,
(31:01):
Sean Payton's going, wait, what did Dan say? Now We're
going to have to go up and get in We
got to spend I don't know if anybody, if you,
are reacting to what we're saying. I got real concerns,
you know, for those gms and coaches, But I.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Know they you know, I'm not trying to brag about
this like they read the mock drafts because I get
the called, you know, like, hey, who do you have
us taking? I was at Michigan's prota and a GM
came up to me, and actually I felt bad. I
didn't recognize him because I was kind of in the bulment.
He's like, hey, who do you have us taking and
I was like, oh, oh yeah, okay, I have you
taken this player? And it was like okay. And so
(31:37):
maybe he just wanted to start a conversation that way.
But I do think that they I do know that
they read the mock drafts and they listen to the
intel because maybe, you know, maybe mel Kiper hasn't dug it.
That will actually help you. You know, know that you
have to jump someone.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
To get your player good to talk to. You know,
you're busy, have fun tomorrow and night. Thank you man,
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst, part of ESPN's coverage.
Something's happening, something has to happen tomorrow night. I just
feel that way. Wow, oh we just got this. Am
I allowed to read this?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Tod Sure?
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Okay, you know what, I'll take a break.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This is from a former Heisman Trophy winner who was
at the ceremony this morning for Reggie Bush, and I'll
bring back part of the interview I did with Reggie
when I ask him, would you drop the defamation lawsuit
against the NCAA if they said, here's your Heisman and
your records back.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
We'll have that for you coming up.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wap UH.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Just got this from Eric Crouch, former Heisman Trophy winner
quarterback at Nebraska. The Heisman winners didn't know about this
happening today. It was a surprise to us. The location
was Ponta verdre verdre Beach, Florida. Or is it Pontra
Vidra Vidra. Yeah, Ponta Vidra. I think that's the home
(33:13):
of the PGA, the Heisman Summit. I believe Reggie is
on his way back home now. It was exciting to
see him to get his trophy back today. Eric Crouch
and so Eric in a picture there with Reggie Bush.
So I guess they invited Reggie. Reggie knew he was
going to get the Heisman. Those showing up probably went, wait,
(33:34):
what's Reggie doing here? Or maybe you bring him in
a big surprise. He comes in. You know, he's got
the Heisman with him. Guys are sitting down having breakfast,
probably signing some autographs there, maybe playing some golf. Reggie
comes in he's got his suit on, bring the heisman in,
have all the heisman winners there. Because this wasn't one
(33:55):
of those Hey I'm hearing that this might happen. It was,
this happened, and now we're going to report on it.
That's what happened with the ESPN. It happened.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And then all of a sudden, it's like Reggie's getting
his heisman back.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Yes, what if Reggie was invited to the summit and
he's like, no, I'm not going to be around or
I'm not interest are not available, but they want to
do this big surprise, and then they got to ruin
the surprise on the phone. Is the only way to
make sure he Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't think he was surprised when he got there.
I think Reggie went there knowing he was getting his
heisman back. I don't think he was like, hun, going
to Florida. They want me to go to the Heisman Summit. Well,
why they won't give you your heisman back?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's food and drinks.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, it sounds like fun.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, No, I'm going to guess they say to REGI, Hey,
we're going to surprise the heisman winners, and uh, we're
happy to give your heisman back. I'm guessing that's what happened.
Eric in Pennsylvania. Good morning, Eric, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Hi? Six one two five. I just wanted to kind
of throw a scenario that old guy like me get
off my line, kind of guy, what's right? The rules
in place? They want their penny bang buscus. I got
to get out of here before they with Reggie and
(35:08):
all the players, nothing roles. In two thousand and four,
here's a kind of a similar thing to see, see
what you guys think. In two thousand and four, the
speed limit of my road was fifty five. I was
caught going seventy, so I was fined. He got points
twenty twenty four. The speed limits seventy on my road.
Do I get my points back? Do I get my
money back? I mean, it's just to me again, old
guy here just saying, why don't they just let it go?
(35:30):
I'm glad he's getting it, a guess, But when the
rules change and they weren't that way when you got it,
I mean, how do you I'll all of a sudden
say forget about it.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
So now I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Eric, he broke a rule and it cost USC dearly
cost him the Heisman trophy. Does the USC get the
national title back? I mean, those are the things that
I want to know. You want to give Reggie a trophy?
Go ahead, we all know what we saw. He was
the best player in college football. But USC lost it title,
(36:01):
They lost whatever fourteen wins Pete Carroll and then the
sanctions that were imposed on USC. I mean it decimated
the program, all right. So Reggie was on the show
back in mid January, and I asked him if he
would be willing to Now there's a defamation lawsuit going
on with the NC DOUBLEA. Now that doesn't have anything
(36:23):
to do with the heisman, but are the two combining
their efforts here to stave off a defamation lawsuit by
Reggie Bush? So I asked him, would he be willing
to drop his defamation lawsuit with the mc DOUBA in
return he gets his records and his heisman back.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
It's too late, it's too we passed.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
We way past that.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
We pass the But if they restore your records, then
you get the heisman.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
They're gonna have to do that anyway, that's gonna happen anyway.
All that's gonna happen anyway, because again, I don't know
if you heard what I said.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
A lie is a lie, right, and so if it's
a lie, then it's going to be exposed.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Right.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
We'll find out in his lawsuit, you know what I'm saying.
We'll find out who's really telling the truth. And that's
what's the most amazing part about it is.
Speaker 12 (37:13):
We've never young, We've never been able to do this
for so long, I've never been I haven't been able
to do this, which is you know, father's lawsuit against
the NCAA until they made that statement, you know.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
And so that's again, that's that's what you guys are
seeing now for the first time, you're seeing my story,
my case being tried in an official way, you know,
in the court of law, which is something that the
end of the way, has.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Never had to do.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
They never had to prove their case in the court
of law.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
So that was January sixteenth of this past year. And
he sounded pretty confident there, right, Marvin working together, Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
I think the Heisman when they decided to do this,
alerted the NCAA and then said they didn't want any
part of it because the nca usually fights to the
death against things like this.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
But if they can fend off a defamation lawsuit, would
you be willing to swallow your pride and go okay?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
All right?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Knowing the NCAA, I think they would fight it for years.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
But just a new new regime, you know, Charlie Baker,
that's fair. So maybe you just have somebody who has
a different mindset, maybe a little more open minded to
this and willing to go okay.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
But the can of worms they may have opened. I mean,
if I'm Michigan Basketball.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
If I'm fab five, I'm like, hey, we'd liked our
banners back.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Lawyer up, Yes, this might be too harsh, But what
pride does the NCAAA currently have left?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Like, I'm not joking.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
They have conferences openly revolting saying we're just going to
form our own thing in the next couple of years.
That I mean they they are completely silent in all
matters other than their name being at the top of
the March Madness Tournament.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
NCAA strip usc of fourteen wins the games that Reggie
played in, including the national title game against Oklahoma. Reggie
filed the defamation lawsuit against the NC double A in
August of this past year. Yeah, it feels like there's
a little bit more to this, but all quiet on
(39:25):
the western frontier.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Yes, Lincoln Riley said he's going to get a national
title for USC football. It's under his watch. He's the coach. Yeah,
he can somehow get him a national title. They'll overlook
that it's from oh four.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, it gets celebrate have a parade, right, yeah they do.
Heck yeah, all right, more phone calls coming up. Final
hour and once again we got phone calls out to
a lot of people. I've heard from one source who
does believe that this is kind of a combo platter
with the heisman in the NC DOUBLEA to try to
(39:56):
stave off the defamation lawsuit. But that's what I I
would want to know with Reggie, because he sounded pretty
confident that no, it's too late. He said, well, now
that you have the heisman, is it too late? Can
you just say, Okay, we got what we wanted. You
admitted you made a mistake, and I get to have
my heisman.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yes, Tom, And he.
Speaker 9 (40:17):
Said they got to give it back to me anyway.
He's really he would double down with you. In that interview,
saying this is going to go forward, regardless of giving
me it back or not.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
All right, update our poll results have a new poll
question for the final hour the day before the day
of the draft. Todd's here, Satan, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly
in the back room, guys, Final hour this Wednesday, just ahead,
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