May 1, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes are talking Hall of Fame and wondering how many former MVP’s haven’t been elected (or even been on the ballot) to those hallowed halls. And he talks to podcasters James “Jomboy” O’Brien and Jake Storiale about their current partnership.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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coming up, Tyrese MAXI will hear from him and what
his mindset was as they came back in the final
thirty seconds last night. And now you get a game
six and fill it o games coming up tonight. It'll
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be the Heat at the Celtics Game five and the
Mavericks at the Clippers, and it looks like Kyrie Kawhi
Leonard will not be playing in that game. Mike Trout
out with knee surgery, out indefinitely, and I think the
initial report was it would not end his season, but
as far as getting to the playoffs, it looks like
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another year without a playoff appearance for Mike Trout. And
once you have three MVPs, how many MVPs haven't made
the Hall of Fame. I know that Dale Murphy won two,
Roger Maris won a Hall of Fame, or I won
an MVP not in the Hall of Fame. Juan Gonzalez,
he got caught up in the steroid report there.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Did Wan Gon have two MVPs?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Marvin Yeah, I think ninety six, ninety eight he won. Yeah,
and Dale Murphy I think went back to back. But
the number of MVPs who haven't made the Hall of Fame.
But here's Mike Trout. It was going to be a
Hall of Famer, but he's got three and I think
he was in the top five.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Eight times in the voting.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yes, Paulin, Yeah, Mike Trout has three. Mike Trout finished
second in the MVP four times.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh yeah, jeez, Well, I mean his.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Stretch from twenty twelve to twenty twenty is it's very
similar to Albert Poohols, and it's similar to that guys
like Joe Demaggio. Mean, it's really historical. There's like an
eight year window where Trout was untouchable.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But Poohols was playing in playoff games when he was
in Saint Louis totally got you know, World Series. So
that's the difference here. You see greatness, but you don't
get to see greatness when it matters the most, when
you're playing for championships. But last night seventy six ers
looked like it was over, like over over for the season,
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and then all of a sudden, Tyrese Maxi started a
heat up and he talked about his mindset after the game,
go out to.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
My mind right there. It was just final way survive,
like I said on the line, and you're like, you know,
I trust my work, I trust out of what I've
done all my life, and I just try to get
to a spider raise up and I side down.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And he did that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He did that twice, and he got found the four
point play and also getting over half court, pulling up
from the logo and hitting a three as well. But
if the Knicks make their free throws, it doesn't matter
what Tyree Smacksy does. The Knicks beat themselves. Last night
they gave they gave Tyree Smacksy an opportunity to beat
them last night. Jalen Brunson statistically had a wonderful night,
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but the last couple of minutes did not play well
at all.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And now you've.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Got four guys on the Sixers who played I think
over forty five minutes. You got a day's rest, and
then you go back home and you got to leave
and beat in there good or bad. I mean, he
had a triple double and nine turnovers as well. I
guess you can look at it and say, well, you
can rest all all summer long, play as hard as
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you can for as long as you can, and he's
going through an awful lot. But it felt like had
the Knicks won that game last night, we would have
a lot of questions about the Sixers and Joe Ellenbiid
moving forward. Do they want to stay with him? Does
he want to stay there? Tyrese Maxey is a star,
you know, but the question is is he your number
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one guy? Embiid is still when he's healthy, is dominant, unguardable,
but he's not healthy and Tyrese Maxey is ready to
take the baton here. The question is is Embiid fine
with that? Because they couldn't wait around for Joe ell
Embiid last night because he was turning the ball over,
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missing shots and the Knicks were taking advantage of him.
But MAXI that was a single handed I got this,
and the Knicks inexcusable.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Inexcusable.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You don't foul him when you should, and then you
foul him when you you shouldn't and that, and then
you know you're trying to get a playoff. Everybody knows
Brunson's gonna take it, and they did a good job
on him, but the crowd it's it's a coronation. We're
moving on until those final thirty seconds, and then all
of a sudden you go into overtime.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Next score, Brunson scores. Okay, whoo, we got by that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Then all of a sudden they're not going away. But
if the Knicks win on Thursday night or there is
a Game seven and they win that one, then maybe
you know, you lessen the feeling, the sting of this.
But if you don't, this is no longer a footnote.
It's one of those things that kind of hangs there
with you, and it feels like every playoff game after that,
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it'll be Hey, the Knicks are up by six with
thirty seconds ago. Yeah, but remember what happened against the Sixers.
It's just gonna kind of be there, and it happens
in the garden, and it happens again your arrival of
Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So the series now shifts to Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Cabs up three to two on the Magic And this
is how that game ended last night.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Wagner touring the basket books it up.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
What Py Mobley houck Py Mobley, truscraps a lose ball?
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Oh my goodness. One of the best defenders in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Who's it right there? Alle Git definitely stuffing you to.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Do Bally Sports Ohio with a block off with Evan Mobley.
You don't have many of those, but uh, very good defender.
Loved him coming out of USC. He's been a really
good player in the NBA. This final hour, our stat
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Speaker 3 (07:05):
That'll be coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Fritzy just sent me MVPs not in the Hall of Fame,
Zolio Verzies. Yeah, he played for Minnesota. Yeah, a short
stun Al Rosen, and Jim Konstanty. So those are three,
those three MVPs who didn't even make the ballot.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So that's different because Dale Murphy's not in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Todd, Yeah, Barry Bonds would be on that list.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's not the complete list of the
Hall of Fame. What I know, that's a complete list
of those that made me. I was aware of that
when I sent it.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I found it was fascinating that they didn't even make
the ballot.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, but I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So it was the MVPs who weren't in the Hall
of Fame, not MVPs who didn't make the ballot.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I just thought that was an interesting litt footnote. And
I understand you were looking for the full list, Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Was, That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
Yes, Marmin, does baseball have the most random MVP winners?
Like not like they weren't great players, but they're just
not Hall of Fame. Sorry, Kevin Mitchell has a MVP award,
and you're like, Kevin Mitchell's got MVP award, Terry Pendleton's
got an MVP award. In the NBA, if you're an MVP,
you're a top ten, fifteen to twenty player of all time?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Like you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Like the NFL
is the same thing, Like great players usually win the
MVP Award, but guys who just have great seasons.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The most random MVP in the NBA is who? Most
random MVP in football is who? Because there are a
lot of randos in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I've got the list of the NBA, and I
can't find someone I would even put on the list.
I mean, every name is an all time great. Maybe
the most random one would be David Robinson, and he's
a great player, but he won an MVP in the
mid nineties, and that's a tough sledding. I can't I
think of a like a B level player who won
an MVP in the NBA history.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Has an MVP not made the Hall of Fame in
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I'm assuming Dave Cowens is he's in Okay, then there's
nobody that's off the charts.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Yeah, and the only person that kind of might be
a question mark is Derek Rose, and it's only because
of injuries.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
See that, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What happened in college? Did they wipe that away? What
he did at Memphis? He did, Yeah, he was on
his way, but I don't know if i'd consider him
a Hall of Famer. Great start, but I don't know
if he's a Hall of famer. He's still playing.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah, Paul, if you looked at NFL MVPs that aren't
going to the Hall of Fame. The running back Sean Alexander,
the Sale Seahawks, I don't think he's going to the
Hall of Fame. He had two or three monster years.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Mark Moseley, the kicker for the Washington then Redskins.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yep, eighty two, nine eighty two, strike short and see.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They led the NFL in scoring and they gave it
to a kicker.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Nineteen eighty quarterback Brian's side with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Not in the Hall of Fame, not going to the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
There's a couple in the seventies like Bert Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He won an MVP.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Yes, he had a.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Monster year with the Colts in seventy six. Good looking
guy too.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Didn't they have Roger Carr?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Wasn't he the wide receiver like a sprinter that he
was maybe his go to guy, Roger Carr for some reason, Rando.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Here's one, Oh boy, Matt Ryan has an MVP. Appeared
in the Super Bowl twent on sixteen. He's I think
he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
But having an MVP got super Bowl big numbers if
it came.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Down to him or Philip Rivers, who goes in. Let's
Rivers never sniffed a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Matt Ryan in the media now that helps.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Philip Rivers never won an MVP. No, Wow, Rivers has
a lot of numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I don't if I'd put either in. At that position,
you got to be great. It's not like okay and
good career. Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
At that position, you don't make the Hall of Fame
with a all right, we had a good career, at
least nowadays because of the numbers that are put up,
because if I look at Bart Starr or Bob Greasy,
those are nice careers, but statistically they they didn't overwhelm you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Anybody else on that list.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Uh, Steve McNair won an MVP and O three.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
How about that rich Gannon two thousand and two, Oakland
Raiders of Famer.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me see, we'll get some phone
calls here.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Once again, Cavs win, and the Bucks win, The Bucks
win without Dame and Yannis, and you might be getting
those guys back with the Pacers up three too, Chris
tops Porzingis several games. Don't know exactly what that means,
but several games would mean at least tonight and then
maybe the next one. But if you know you're able
to put away the Miami Heat, now you get a
(12:06):
little bit of rest here.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, Pauline, does several mean two games? Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Two to three games? Three or more games?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay? Several? Many, numerous, few few.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
If I say Porzingis is out a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I'd say two, I mean two. If I'd said if.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
You said a few, that would mean three or more?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Feels like yes, Mark.
Speaker 10 (12:29):
Several, feels like seven. Severals more than a few, I
think so, yeah, and several more than a few, several
few like it. Several sounds serious.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Few. Now you're gonna be up for a few, several y,
several games.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Several sounds undefined.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
What is the uh? What's poll question? For the final hour?
Seedon that's not very good?
Speaker 9 (12:50):
Is Steve Nash a random MVP winner? Now, he won two,
almost won three, and he's a hall of famer because
of those, But he didn't he I don't know. You
don't think he's a hall of famer. No, no, I'm
not saying that. I'm just saying that maybe that those MVPs.
Oh no, he didn't deserve both of them were random. No,
they are themen Shacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are themen Shacks.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Yes, yeah, I'm kind of with seeing win Steve Nash
first won the MVP Award, Like Steve Nash, the guy
who was on the MAVs. Like, look, he had a
great he had a great year that first year.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But those aren't overwhelming numbers. No, he wasn't. But those
team and eleven, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
But I think the big thing was they had the
same team previously and he improved them by thirty wins.
So I think that's what made the difference, and that
team was loaded.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Did he improve them or did Did they change coaches
and that improved them both of them? Well, okay, but
those aren't those are big numbers there.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
He was fun to watch and he was an anomaly.
Though you're watching and you're going that, dude, he's pretty entertaining.
But they didn't get to an NBA finals, and granted
you had to run through San Antonio, but yeah, that
means Steve's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, Paul, I think Nash won his MVP's based off
story and style. His first eight years in the league,
he was a good player. I mean, he squeaked in
a couple of All Star Games at age twenty seven
and twenty eight. He finished runner up a couple times
for Most Improved Player, and then he just kind of
broke out at age thirty and led a league and
assists for six out of seven years.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
The fact that the Phoenix Suns had Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson,
and Steve Nash on the team at the same time,
if I said, hey, you know, take your pick, I'd
be like, go, you can take whoever you want.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I am.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I'm fine with take him one of the other two guys. Now,
kj's not a Hall of Famer. Jay Kidd is uh
and Steve is Christ in California. Hi, Chris, what's on
your rune?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Hey Christ?
Speaker 11 (14:55):
First time, long time yep five, then two thirty. Yes,
So you guys were just talking about Derek Rose and
it made me kind of wonder he wasn't still toiling
in obscurity with the Memphis Grizzly. He's at this point,
(15:15):
say his career ended years ago and all we remembered
was the good days with the Bulls. Do you think
he'd have a better chance at making the Hall of
Fame than now while he's, you know, kind of just
playing out the stream.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah? Probably so.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean he was a guy who wasn't a great shooter,
but he was take over a game. He you know,
Pearl Washington had a game where he wasn't a good shooter. Now,
I didn't become a good pro, but you couldn't stop
Pearl Washington in college. And Derek Rose had that kind
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of game and it translated into the NBA. I mean,
he was a great player, great player young early, but
then all of a sudd and he got hurt a
couple of times.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Ym Mark, Yeah, Derrick Rose played ten years after he
came back from the ACL to here.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, so that hurts, uh Tyler in Minnesota, Hi, ty
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I was going, hey, time, there's four.
Speaker 12 (16:17):
Hire's doing an TIRERAQ live look in. It looks like
he could have been qualified for the Day twenty five hundred.
There's no way that wasn't a prop tire text of
all Man, tell me the Wolf that's just going to
go and just get busted in four games. I can't
have a Minnesota sports fan think about championships anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
All Right, thank you, Tyler.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
If you said Minnesota beats Denver, I would not be shocked.
Denver is now. This is here's the difference with some
of these teams. Denver has a great starting five, you
could argue best starting five in basketball. They don't have
the bench that they had last year. That would be
my biggest concern if anybody gets nicked up, banged up,
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you know, to have to sit out a game. You know,
Timberwolf's gone talent, they got size, they got death. They
had the sixth man of the year, naz.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Reid fun name.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I remember watching the game. You know, it's one of
those I'm flipping through in Minnesota. I'm like, let me
see what we got here. Nas Reed looked like the
best player on the floor. Nazry and Hilton Reid the
third yep, I think.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
There were two before him.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, yes, quick quiz last time there was a pro
title in the four major sports in the state of Minnesota.
It's been a while. I think we're at like thirty two,
thirty three years. It's the state of Minnesota had a
title in the four major sports. The twins, Twins is correct,
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the Dan Gladden type team.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Dan Gladden, maybe Dan Gladden, Kent her Back, Tom Brunanski, Todd,
you should know everybody on that team.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Bumbo Rivera.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What of that Bumbo Rivera? I thought he before. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Once again, anything anything, anything prior to the nineties, your pretty,
I'm nineteen eighties.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're good. Harmon, Killerbrew, you and Tony Aliva.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Kirby Puckett, Chuck Knoblock, Greg gane, Greg Gangye, Chillie Davis, Oh.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Where is butch Winerger? That was also before the the.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Older Jack Morris on that team, Scott Ericson, Mark Guthrie
of the pen.
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(19:53):
As we welcome them to The Dan Patrick Show and
The Dan Patrick Show platform for podcast. Jimmy, let me
start with you. For those unaware of John Boy Media,
explain how all of this got started.
Speaker 14 (20:07):
Well, it started as the two of us just talking
Yankees together because I was living in California and he
was in Dallas and we were living with girlfriends at
the time and had no one else to talk Yankees about.
And then the Yankees were good in twenty seventeen, so
we got an audience because people wanted to tune in,
and from there it's just steamrolled and snowballed into anything
(20:29):
we really wanted to be and come and now we're
a company of fifty people with multiple shows and doing
stuff we never thought we'd be doing. So it's been
awesome to have an audience that has allowed us to
get to the spot.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
When did you guys go national?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
What was the moment where all of a sudden we
were hearing more about John Boy.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
Twenty nineteen was the moment where we started doing coverage
of the whole league, not just Yankees. And then we
had a couple things that ticked up and ticked up
and ticked up, and then the biggest one was, you know,
hopping on the astros cheating scandal of twenty nineteen and
making videos about that, and that got our name out
to a whole audience.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
We had been pretty big in the New York scene
up until that point, and.
Speaker 14 (21:12):
Then I think that helped us because we launched Talk
in Baseball, we brought Trevor Plue, a former player on,
and we were covering the whole league after that.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Jake, what was it about it with that astro scandal
where all of a sudden it started to resonate with people.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
When did you know you guys had something?
Speaker 15 (21:29):
Well, Man, I always say it should be like the
case study of new media, because The Athletic was on
it and it was behind a paywall, so you know,
everyone read the article and was like, oh, wow, astros
are cheating. Ooh, and then Jim posts the video and
you see a picture on the mounds like something's not
(21:51):
right here, and I don't know, I mean, there's so
many times in different sports things where you see the
video and it changes how you think and yeah, that
left sport.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, we consume video. We can understand video as opposed
to reading a story. Sometimes the story can be confusing
and then you're trying to visualize that you guys took
all the guest work out of it. It's like here
it is. Now you decide, when did you hear from
Baseball or the Astros or anybody else?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Lawyers?
Speaker 7 (22:21):
God, No, never heard from anyone, you know.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
Rosenthal reached out and he was, I would I'm always
nervous because people credit us for breaking the story, which
I used quotes because we did. Evan Drelich and Rosenthal
did years of grunt grunt work to get people on
the record. What I did is that just made it
tangible and shared the video proof. And Rosenthal actually reached
out and said, I was Actually, it was like weight
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off my shoulders to see us be backed because it
was kind of they were, you know, throwing that out
there and it could have been scoffed at and say, yeah, right,
who cares.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
So that was nice to hear from them.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
But MLB Astros we've never never reached out about that
or at that time.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now would you how would you label your site? Because
there's comedy in there. I mean, you're having fun, but
you guys should die hard baseball fans. So is it
a baseball website?
Speaker 14 (23:14):
Well, it started baseball for sure, We've grown into other areas.
We have guys that cover football, we have some lifestyle stuff.
We've even had like our own section of creating our
own sports in a warehouse that is more like reality
TV show, So we've been able to do everything we wants.
Definitely baseball Baseball Adjacent Adjacent is the like crux of
what we're doing. And then it's fan led, so we're
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not trying to be unbiased in any way. We're trying
to be very honest and let you know, you know
we're Yankees fans, so as people get upset about that,
but we're not going to hide it or change our thoughts.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
So it's fan led media.
Speaker 14 (23:50):
We used to say, but I don't know, it's uh analysis,
but taking ourselves pretty lightly, I think that would how
I would sum it up.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Courtesy of en Boy. We have two podcasts up at
Danpatrick dot com. Jimmy's Three Things and then there's Wake
and Jake. All right, Jake, so what can we expect
with your podcast?
Speaker 15 (24:11):
I'm Jake Ye and I man, I'm sports. I grew
up in Connecticut. I grew up with ESPN in the backyard.
I was like raised by old sports centers. So in
a way, like I'm taking you know, we're family that man.
I obviously we're so deep into baseball that I I
do lean into baseball. That's what a lot of people
look at us. But I'm I love sports man. So
(24:33):
I'm especially this time of year with NBA playoffs going,
with NHL playoffs going, Yukon hoisting another banner.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Obviously, I just love sports.
Speaker 15 (24:43):
So if someone's looking to talk sports and kind of
I'm a very I'm just a naturally friendly person.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
I like people.
Speaker 15 (24:50):
I think there's a lot of people that don't like
saying that. The a joke I make a lot is
like I'm the perfect last invite to a wedding because
I'm just like friendly. I'm gonna have a couple drinks,
dance a little bit. So it's kind of like that
with sports.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
He's gonna dance a lot. There's a lie at the end.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
There, Okay, and then Jimmy's three things.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So that's heavy baseball.
Speaker 14 (25:11):
Basically, I'm sitting down and talking to the audience. It's
just me in a room, and I like to deep
dive into whatever the biggest story is and really dive
into the weeds, and sometimes the audience is on a
journey with me. So I did a big one the
other day about the Mets not sliding into second base
to break up double plays when McNeil got mad, and
instead of just having the surface level reaction to it,
(25:34):
I like to actually go like, wait, does McNeil break
up double plays? And then oh, does do the Mets
break up double plays? And going really into the weeds.
So it's kind of watching a crazy baseball fan get
lost within weeds. And then I pull myself out and
move on to the next topic as quickly as I can.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So when Aaron Judge slides into second and he's got
his you know, the the mitt on his sliding mit
there ofn mit, you guys react to that.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Yeah, that's that's definitely one that you know.
Speaker 14 (26:02):
I'd like to go find all the footage of him
sliding when it's a double play, all the footage of
him sliding when he's just stealing second, is that a
different slide? What about a hustle doubles? Is the hand
up going there? So that's that's the type of stuff
that I do on Jimmy's Three Things.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But but is it you guys against the world when
it comes to your opinions, like do you want people
athletes to agree with you and people to agree with
you or would you rather stir it up and be
sort of We don't mind being villains here.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
I think we can have fun when we want.
Speaker 14 (26:32):
We don't really lean into being poking the bear just
to poke the bear. If I have an opinion that
I think will stir people up, I'll definitely do it.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
But we're not aiming for that.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
It's, uh, you know, I always tell you I couldn't
even dress up for Halloween. I can't not be myself,
so I can't do the whole I'm going to be
a contrarian just to.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Do it stuff.
Speaker 14 (26:53):
So it's you know, I really dislike the Rays. I
have fun poking that bear, but I truly don't like them.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Why all because I can't get into that.
Speaker 14 (27:03):
But I they just you know, they brag about not
paying their players any money and they all get injured
and they never actually won.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
When's the last time the Yankees won?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, well they win games.
Speaker 14 (27:18):
But I I the same thing about the Yankees too.
I think that's the other thing is everyone's like, well,
the Yankees stink, and we're like, we know, we we
we are well aware.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Do you want and let's say you could have a
current baseball player on your podcast.
Speaker 15 (27:35):
It's tough because we always juggle the are they going
to be real? Like Aaron Judge? Obviously we're Yankee fans,
and if we could get a real combo a Judge
and he's gonna let it eat with us like, that
would be awesome. But you know, Aaron Judge kind of
lives by the Yankee way and he gives he gives
the right answer. So that's we We always have a
lot of agencies talk about sending players our way, and
(27:57):
they're like, you.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Know, what do you want?
Speaker 15 (27:59):
We want the play who are gonna be real? Like,
let's let's chop it up and talk.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So you wouldn't want Geter on the podcast.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I'd be embarrassed of how that I would look.
Speaker 14 (28:09):
Him and Tory are the only two people I were
I've seen in the same room, and I kind of
melted like a little boy.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
So, Uh, I would love to have geter on.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
But I bet he's not gonna say anything.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
No, he's not. But for my just for like a
personal thing. Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 14 (28:23):
Business wise, I'd get Otani any day. I don't care
if he doesn't say anything that's gonna it's gonna lead
to some new new viewership.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What about a Rod who Rod?
Speaker 15 (28:34):
We've we we cross paths with Rod briefly.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (28:38):
We have a guy, Joe's McFly that that works at
our company. He's uh, he famously went viral the uh
when Devers clip Chapman Uh for that first time when
Devers was a kid. He's still like in commercials and
stuff for it. And he's he's pretty close with a Rod.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (28:55):
I talked to Rod, but you never know where that's
gonna land.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
They are the the co founders of John Boy Media
and there's two podcasts available, Jimmy's Three Things and Waken Jake.
The podcast so twice weekly for that when the Baseball Show.
Jimmy's Three Things where three things of the week that
he wants to talk about. It's great to have you
guys on board and have fun have fun with this.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Yes, thank you very much, appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That's the founder of John Boy Media, host of Jimmy's
Three Things podcast, Jimmy O'Brien, and Jake Storielli, co founder
of John Boy Media, host of Wakenjake podcast available at
Dan Patrick dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
And if you go back to.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
When we first really saw John Boy Media on the
national stage was with the Astros in the cheating scandal.
Because there were some really good baseball reporters who came
out with the story, but it felt like it was
a little more complex. John Boy Media just sort of said,
let's pair this down. Listen. You can hear them banging
(29:58):
on garbage cans. They you know, So the audio part
of it, the visual part of it, played such a
large role, and then you were able to go, oh,
john Boy Media. So they made a name for themselves
back with that cheating scandal.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yes, Paul, and we played the clip I remember on
the show that morning and it was almost like, oh,
you know what, if you accuse someone stealing something from
a song or an artist, you're like, well maybe, and
then you play him side by side. Like the article
in Sports Illustrated had lots of great detail on the
athletic about the science stealing. But John, Boy, when you
saw it, you're like, oh, there's no doubt, there's no doubt,
(30:32):
there's no benefit.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, when you're listening and then you hear it, you're like, oh, well,
it's so obvious. Let me get a couple of phone
calls in here, Steven in Valencia, Hi, Steven Woods, on
your mind today?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
ADP.
Speaker 16 (30:48):
Let me make sure I'm not getting any fuzz But yeah,
I wanted to stick with the MVPs. Not in the
Hall of Fame discussion, especially with baseball. Okay, I'm not
sure if it's been brought up, but a very classy gentleman.
I think you would love because he every time I've
had a chance to talk to him, he just makes
(31:08):
you feel like he remembers your conversations. And he's too
famous to do that. But it would be Don Newcombe.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, former pitcher. Yeah, good call. I
thought you were going to say Barry Bonds. You know,
he remembers all of your conversation, talks to the little
evil he is. Yeah, I think you'll get that random
MVP in baseball, but you don't get that in basketball
or football, at least modern day football from maybe the
(31:39):
late seventies early eighties. On basketball, the same way baseball,
you can have a magical year, like Roger Maris won
the MVP when he hit sixty one home runs, but
that was it. One Gonzales won two MVPs, but he
was involved in the the steroid reports that came out stories.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Yes, yes, Mark, and like George Bell and Ken Kaimanitty
had MVP awards.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, huh, they had a good year. Yeah, Ken Kamanity
that was under suspicion as well. Thanks. See did Roger
Merris win two MVPs?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I thought back to back because he went to them,
the Cardinals or Kansas City to the Yankees.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah, but you're right back to back.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Nineteen sixty with the Yankees, he was MVP nineteen sixty
one MVP with the Yankees, he hit thirty nine homers
to win it, and then he hit sixty one homers
to win.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
It, and then the year he hit sixty one. I
think Mickey Mantle hit fifty four home runs. Michel Cabrera
has two MVP's. See, I thought that Mike Trout and
Miguel Cabrera were similar. Now, Cabrera won a World Series,
but I mean Cabrera's offensive numbers are crazy, but two
(32:57):
MVPs and then he's not played with the Tigers anymore,
is he.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
No?
Speaker 8 (33:02):
I think he retired. He's got a triple crown.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean he's he had a That's where everybody said, oh,
he's the next Mike Trout's the next Mickey Mantle. Well, okay, maybe,
but I would aspire to be Miguel Cabrera because he
he did win a World Series title, a triple crown,
probably had a couple of batting titles. There, had five
hundred home runs, three thousand hits. That's where you you
(33:26):
kind of start there of great right handed hitters of
all time, where you want to get to that platform, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Cabrera played five years with Florida, then he went to
Detroit for the next fifteen or sixteen, and he had
seasons of three forty four, three thirty three forty eight,
three thirty eight, four batting titles in five seasons. Dang, nutty, dang. Yeah,
when he was at his peak. His bad seasons were
like two ninety four.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, because Trout, I think had ten home runs so
far this year eight were solo and he was batting
like two twenty So it wasn't, you know, the start
of a magical year here, but now out indefinitely.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, Paul Poolholse's numbers.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
People should just look at them every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Those ten years.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Oh god, I mean average and power. I mean yeah,
three fifty nine and forty three homers. I mean it
was different.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it was just you were looking and then but
the guy came out of nowhere. Now that's always what's amazing.
It's like, how did nobody spot this guy being this good?
Thirteenth rod draft?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I know? Yes.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Mark Cabrera also went to the World Series with the
Tigers in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Okay, okay, yeah, did some damage on bulldet That's pretty good. Yeah,
pretty good career.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Take a break, last call for phone calls what we
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Speaker 2 (34:56):
Davante Adams is the wide receiver for Las Vegas. He
of course, played in Green Bay and he talked recently
on the Rush podcast about not regretting leaving the Packers,
but didn't realize the quarterback who's still there in Green
Bay was this good.
Speaker 17 (35:14):
At the time when I was there, I hadn't necessarily
seen enough to say this is for sure what I
should do. But in hindsight, like we talked about, I mean,
a kid is all the man, I'm so happy for him,
and you know, I haven't really had a chance to
truly sit down and talk with him, but I just
I want to tell him at some point, like, you know,
I definitely don't regret changing, but I'm super proud of
(35:34):
what you've done. And you know, if there was a
way I could pull you over here and you know,
and drag you with me like that, you know that
would have been cool too, because you know, obviously we
saw what he did at the end of the year.
But I don't regret what I did. But at the
same time, it is definitely you look back on you like,
man that wake out a bull. Could he be the
next one?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm wondering why you don't see that in practice now.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I know you need to see it in game like situations,
but how many reps did he get with the first team,
and are you really keeping an eye on a backup
quarterback who most people probably thought, first of all, why
are you drafting him? And came out of a football
program that doesn't produce great quarterbacks, and now all of
a sudden, he's backing up Aaron Rodgers. But I think
(36:19):
at some point, as we've talked about, you probably had
DeVante Adams and a few others saying, I just don't
want to deal with the uncertainty here. I don't want
to deal with Aaron Rodgers drama every time I come
in here. Hey, he's made me great. I could be
a Hall of Fame wide receiver, but I'm going to
get paid and maybe I get less drama. Now you
(36:40):
go to the Raiders. Okay, you made the playoffs a
couple of times. I believe you don't have a quarterback.
Now they do have two tight ends and you have
him as wide receiver. You know they've got some pieces there.
If they get their quarterback. That quarterback comes in, it's
like all right, like this, it's sort of like you
(37:01):
know JJ McCarthy in Minnesota. Now I got a running back,
I got two wide I maybe have the best wide
receiver in football. Good tight end Jordan Addison another really
good wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I got a coach who's great with quarterbacks, and I
think that's why people are high on JJ McCarthy is
I think the fourth betting favorite for Rookie of the Year.
He's got weapons there, all right. Some phone calls in
Jacob and Florida speaking of the Vikings. Hi, Jake, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
How you doing da good?
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Jake?
Speaker 11 (37:38):
I just wanted to know what do you think of
the Vikings this year?
Speaker 8 (37:42):
And do you think this year's kind of.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
Make or break for Justin Jefferson's future over there?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well, he's going to sign a contract. It's going to
pay him thirty million dollars a year. I'm gonna guess
he will still maintain his status. Now, Sam Darnold's going
to start, I would think, although they'll probably be a
push later on this summer if JJ McCarthy shows that
he is who he's supposed to be. But Sam Darnell
(38:08):
probably makes the most sense. And you get an experienced
quarterback there, and you know Justin Jefferson will still get
his catches. But I wouldn't worry about that. Gus and
Virginia Beach. I guess what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Good morning. I don't have to talk to all of you boys.
Roman Dave Briel speaking of MVPs, he had that tremendous
season and then and then he was runner up to
OJ Simpson when the juice rushed for over two thousand yards,
so candidly that could have been a two time mvpre
(38:43):
and he's not in the hall.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
All right, Well, thank you, Gus.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, we were talking about quarterbacks from probably late seventies
early eighties on because the position changed as far as
the numbers that we now expect a quarterback to have.
But Roman Gabriel is a great quarterback for the Rams.
Just passed away recently. Quinton in Georgia, Hey Quinton, what's
(39:08):
on your mind?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 3 (39:11):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
First time?
Speaker 18 (39:14):
Long time? Change the subject club? Going back to you
were talking about those songs that Johnny Cash I've been
everywhere and just a little trivia about that song. That
song was actually written by an Australian country and Western
singer back in the fifties and the names of the
cities in that song were Australian songs. So can you imagine.
(39:37):
Can you imagine how that was? And then it was
recorded again in Britain and then a Canadian American country
and Western legend. Hank Snow recorded it first in the
States in nineteen sixty two or thereabouts. But my point
about calling this I doubt if they had a TA
proper they were probably rating those things off.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Okay, under the number of cities that Johnny Cash mentions in,
I've been everywhere, man. If I said seventy five cities,
who's taking the over? And I've been everywhere, man, anybody,
I'm taking this significantly under. Okay, Marvin, take it over
(40:22):
like eighty one? All right, God, under like sixty six, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm gonna accuse myself.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Okay, do you have the answer that ninety two towns cities?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You know, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota, Buffalo, Toronto, with God?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Would you learn today it wasn't nice too?
Speaker 10 (40:36):
You were drinking a forty three dollars double jack and
coca at the Bille Joel concert left Friday Night of
the Garden.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
Yes, seat no Connor, Rob Mcellenny more sincere than Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yes, I don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Marvin you said, Derek Rose is not a Hall of Famer. No,
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Eight seven seven three DP Show email address Tpadanpatrick dot Com,
Twitter handle the TP Show, get to your phone calls
coming up, Tyrese MAXI will hear from him and what
his mindset was as they came back in the final
thirty seconds last night. And now you get a game
six and fill it o games coming up tonight. It'll
(01:02):
be the Heat at the Celtics Game five and the
Mavericks at the Clippers, and it looks like Kyrie Kawhi
Leonard will not be playing in that game. Mike Trout
out with knee surgery, out indefinitely, and I think the
initial report was it would not end his season, but
as far as getting to the playoffs, it looks like
(01:23):
another year without a playoff appearance for Mike Trout. And
once you have three MVPs, how many MVPs haven't made
the Hall of Fame. I know that Dale Murphy won two,
Roger Maris won a Hall of Fame, or I won
an MVP not in the Hall of Fame. Juan Gonzalez,
he got caught up in the steroid report there.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Did Wan Gon have two MVPs?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Marvin Yeah, I think ninety six, ninety eight he won. Yeah,
and Dale Murphy I think went back to back. But
the number of MVPs who haven't made the Hall of Fame.
But here's Mike Trout. It was going to be a
Hall of Famer, but he's got three and I think
he was in the top five.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Eight times in the voting.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yes, Paulin, Yeah, Mike Trout has three. Mike Trout finished
second in the MVP four times.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh yeah, jeez, Well, I mean his.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Stretch from twenty twelve to twenty twenty is it's very
similar to Albert Poohols, and it's similar to that guys
like Joe Demaggio. Mean, it's really historical. There's like an
eight year window where Trout was untouchable.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But Poohols was playing in playoff games when he was
in Saint Louis totally got you know, World Series. So
that's the difference here. You see greatness, but you don't
get to see greatness when it matters the most, when
you're playing for championships. But last night seventy six ers
looked like it was over, like over over for the season,
(02:48):
and then all of a sudden, Tyrese Maxi started a
heat up and he talked about his mindset after the game,
go out to.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
My mind right there. It was just final way survive,
like I said on the line, and you're like, you know,
I trust my work, I trust out of what I've
done all my life, and I just try to get
to a spider raise up and I side down.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And he did that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He did that twice, and he got found the four
point play and also getting over half court, pulling up
from the logo and hitting a three as well. But
if the Knicks make their free throws, it doesn't matter
what Tyree Smacksy does. The Knicks beat themselves. Last night
they gave they gave Tyree Smacksy an opportunity to beat
them last night. Jalen Brunson statistically had a wonderful night,
(03:36):
but the last couple of minutes did not play well
at all.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And now you've.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Got four guys on the Sixers who played I think
over forty five minutes. You got a day's rest, and
then you go back home and you got to leave
and beat in there good or bad. I mean, he
had a triple double and nine turnovers as well. I
guess you can look at it and say, well, you
can rest all all summer long, play as hard as
(04:02):
you can for as long as you can, and he's
going through an awful lot. But it felt like had
the Knicks won that game last night, we would have
a lot of questions about the Sixers and Joe Ellenbiid
moving forward. Do they want to stay with him? Does
he want to stay there? Tyrese Maxey is a star,
you know, but the question is is he your number
(04:23):
one guy? Embiid is still when he's healthy, is dominant, unguardable,
but he's not healthy and Tyrese Maxey is ready to
take the baton here. The question is is Embiid fine
with that? Because they couldn't wait around for Joe ell
Embiid last night because he was turning the ball over,
(04:44):
missing shots and the Knicks were taking advantage of him.
But MAXI that was a single handed I got this,
and the Knicks inexcusable.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Inexcusable.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You don't foul him when you should, and then you
foul him when you you shouldn't and that, and then
you know you're trying to get a playoff. Everybody knows
Brunson's gonna take it, and they did a good job
on him, but the crowd it's it's a coronation. We're
moving on until those final thirty seconds, and then all
of a sudden you go into overtime.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Next score, Brunson scores. Okay, whoo, we got by that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Then all of a sudden they're not going away. But
if the Knicks win on Thursday night or there is
a Game seven and they win that one, then maybe
you know, you lessen the feeling, the sting of this.
But if you don't, this is no longer a footnote.
It's one of those things that kind of hangs there
with you, and it feels like every playoff game after that,
(05:47):
it'll be Hey, the Knicks are up by six with
thirty seconds ago. Yeah, but remember what happened against the Sixers.
It's just gonna kind of be there, and it happens
in the garden, and it happens again your arrival of
Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So the series now shifts to Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Cabs up three to two on the Magic And this
is how that game ended last night.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Wagner touring the basket books it up.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
What Py Mobley houck Py Mobley, truscraps a lose ball?
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Oh my goodness. One of the best defenders in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Who's it right there? Alle Git definitely stuffing you to.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Do Bally Sports Ohio with a block off with Evan Mobley.
You don't have many of those, but uh, very good defender.
Loved him coming out of USC. He's been a really
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the Houston Astros cheating.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That'll be coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Fritzy just sent me MVPs not in the Hall of Fame,
Zolio Verzies. Yeah, he played for Minnesota. Yeah, a short
stun Al Rosen, and Jim Konstanty. So those are three,
those three MVPs who didn't even make the ballot.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So that's different because Dale Murphy's not in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Todd, Yeah, Barry Bonds would be on that list.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's not the complete list of the
Hall of Fame. What I know, that's a complete list
of those that made me. I was aware of that
when I sent it.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I found it was fascinating that they didn't even make
the ballot.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, but I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So it was the MVPs who weren't in the Hall
of Fame, not MVPs who didn't make the ballot.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I just thought that was an interesting litt footnote. And
I understand you were looking for the full list, Yes, I.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Was, That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
Yes, Marmin, does baseball have the most random MVP winners?
Like not like they weren't great players, but they're just
not Hall of Fame. Sorry, Kevin Mitchell has a MVP award,
and you're like, Kevin Mitchell's got MVP award, Terry Pendleton's
got an MVP award. In the NBA, if you're an MVP,
you're a top ten, fifteen to twenty player of all time?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (08:22):
Like you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Like the NFL
is the same thing, Like great players usually win the
MVP Award, but guys who just have great seasons.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The most random MVP in the NBA is who? Most
random MVP in football is who? Because there are a
lot of randos in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I've got the list of the NBA, and I
can't find someone I would even put on the list.
I mean, every name is an all time great. Maybe
the most random one would be David Robinson, and he's
a great player, but he won an MVP in the
mid nineties, and that's a tough sledding. I can't I
think of a like a B level player who won
an MVP in the NBA history.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Has an MVP not made the Hall of Fame in
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I'm assuming Dave Cowens is he's in Okay, then there's
nobody that's off the charts.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Yeah, and the only person that kind of might be
a question mark is Derek Rose, and it's only because
of injuries.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
See that, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What happened in college? Did they wipe that away? What
he did at Memphis? He did, Yeah, he was on
his way, but I don't know if i'd consider him
a Hall of Famer. Great start, but I don't know
if he's a Hall of famer. He's still playing.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah, Paul, if you looked at NFL MVPs that aren't
going to the Hall of Fame. The running back Sean Alexander,
the Sale Seahawks, I don't think he's going to the
Hall of Fame. He had two or three monster years.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Mark Moseley, the kicker for the Washington then Redskins.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yep, eighty two, nine eighty two, strike short and see.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They led the NFL in scoring and they gave it
to a kicker.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Nineteen eighty quarterback Brian's side with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Not in the Hall of Fame, not going to the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
There's a couple in the seventies like Bert Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He won an MVP.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Yes, he had a.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Monster year with the Colts in seventy six. Good looking
guy too.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Didn't they have Roger Carr?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Wasn't he the wide receiver like a sprinter that he
was maybe his go to guy, Roger Carr for some reason, Rando.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Here's one, Oh boy, Matt Ryan has an MVP. Appeared
in the Super Bowl twent on sixteen. He's I think
he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
But having an MVP got super Bowl big numbers if
it came.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Down to him or Philip Rivers, who goes in. Let's
Rivers never sniffed a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Matt Ryan in the media now that helps.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Philip Rivers never won an MVP. No, Wow, Rivers has
a lot of numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I don't if I'd put either in. At that position,
you got to be great. It's not like okay and
good career. Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
At that position, you don't make the Hall of Fame
with a all right, we had a good career, at
least nowadays because of the numbers that are put up,
because if I look at Bart Starr or Bob Greasy,
those are nice careers, but statistically they they didn't overwhelm you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Anybody else on that list.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Uh, Steve McNair won an MVP and O three.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
How about that rich Gannon two thousand and two, Oakland
Raiders of Famer.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me see, we'll get some phone
calls here.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Once again, Cavs win, and the Bucks win, The Bucks
win without Dame and Yannis, and you might be getting
those guys back with the Pacers up three too, Chris
tops Porzingis several games. Don't know exactly what that means,
but several games would mean at least tonight and then
maybe the next one. But if you know you're able
to put away the Miami Heat, now you get a
(12:06):
little bit of rest here.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, Pauline, does several mean two games? Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Two to three games? Three or more games?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay? Several? Many, numerous, few few.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
If I say Porzingis is out a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I'd say two, I mean two. If I'd said if.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
You said a few, that would mean three or more?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Feels like yes, Mark.
Speaker 10 (12:29):
Several, feels like seven. Severals more than a few, I
think so, yeah, and several more than a few, several
few like it. Several sounds serious.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Few. Now you're gonna be up for a few, several y,
several games.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Several sounds undefined.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
What is the uh? What's poll question? For the final hour?
Seedon that's not very good?
Speaker 9 (12:50):
Is Steve Nash a random MVP winner? Now, he won two,
almost won three, and he's a hall of famer because
of those, But he didn't he I don't know. You
don't think he's a hall of famer. No, no, I'm
not saying that. I'm just saying that maybe that those MVPs.
Oh no, he didn't deserve both of them were random. No,
they are themen Shacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are themen Shacks.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Yes, yeah, I'm kind of with seeing win Steve Nash
first won the MVP Award, Like Steve Nash, the guy
who was on the MAVs. Like, look, he had a
great he had a great year that first year.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But those aren't overwhelming numbers. No, he wasn't. But those
team and eleven, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
But I think the big thing was they had the
same team previously and he improved them by thirty wins.
So I think that's what made the difference, and that
team was loaded.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Did he improve them or did Did they change coaches
and that improved them both of them? Well, okay, but
those aren't those are big numbers there.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
He was fun to watch and he was an anomaly.
Though you're watching and you're going that, dude, he's pretty entertaining.
But they didn't get to an NBA finals, and granted
you had to run through San Antonio, but yeah, that
means Steve's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, Paul, I think Nash won his MVP's based off
story and style. His first eight years in the league,
he was a good player. I mean, he squeaked in
a couple of All Star Games at age twenty seven
and twenty eight. He finished runner up a couple times
for Most Improved Player, and then he just kind of
broke out at age thirty and led a league and
assists for six out of seven years.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
The fact that the Phoenix Suns had Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson,
and Steve Nash on the team at the same time,
if I said, hey, you know, take your pick, I'd
be like, go, you can take whoever you want.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I am.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I'm fine with take him one of the other two guys. Now,
kj's not a Hall of Famer. Jay Kidd is uh
and Steve is Christ in California. Hi, Chris, what's on
your rune?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Hey Christ?
Speaker 11 (14:55):
First time, long time yep five, then two thirty. Yes,
So you guys were just talking about Derek Rose and
it made me kind of wonder he wasn't still toiling
in obscurity with the Memphis Grizzly. He's at this point,
(15:15):
say his career ended years ago and all we remembered
was the good days with the Bulls. Do you think
he'd have a better chance at making the Hall of
Fame than now while he's, you know, kind of just
playing out the stream.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah? Probably so.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean he was a guy who wasn't a great shooter,
but he was take over a game. He you know,
Pearl Washington had a game where he wasn't a good shooter. Now,
I didn't become a good pro, but you couldn't stop
Pearl Washington in college. And Derek Rose had that kind
(15:51):
of game and it translated into the NBA. I mean,
he was a great player, great player young early, but
then all of a sudd and he got hurt a
couple of times.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Ym Mark, Yeah, Derrick Rose played ten years after he
came back from the ACL to here.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, so that hurts, uh Tyler in Minnesota, Hi, ty
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I was going, hey, time, there's four.
Speaker 12 (16:17):
Hire's doing an TIRERAQ live look in. It looks like
he could have been qualified for the Day twenty five hundred.
There's no way that wasn't a prop tire text of
all Man, tell me the Wolf that's just going to
go and just get busted in four games. I can't
have a Minnesota sports fan think about championships anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
All Right, thank you, Tyler.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
If you said Minnesota beats Denver, I would not be shocked.
Denver is now. This is here's the difference with some
of these teams. Denver has a great starting five, you
could argue best starting five in basketball. They don't have
the bench that they had last year. That would be
my biggest concern if anybody gets nicked up, banged up,
(17:03):
you know, to have to sit out a game. You know,
Timberwolf's gone talent, they got size, they got death. They
had the sixth man of the year, naz.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Reid fun name.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I remember watching the game. You know, it's one of
those I'm flipping through in Minnesota. I'm like, let me
see what we got here. Nas Reed looked like the
best player on the floor. Nazry and Hilton Reid the
third yep, I think.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
There were two before him.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, yes, quick quiz last time there was a pro
title in the four major sports in the state of Minnesota.
It's been a while. I think we're at like thirty two,
thirty three years. It's the state of Minnesota had a
title in the four major sports. The twins, Twins is correct,
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the Dan Gladden type team.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Dan Gladden, maybe Dan Gladden, Kent her Back, Tom Brunanski, Todd,
you should know everybody on that team.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Bumbo Rivera.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What of that Bumbo Rivera? I thought he before. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Once again, anything anything, anything prior to the nineties, your pretty,
I'm nineteen eighties.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're good. Harmon, Killerbrew, you and Tony Aliva.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Kirby Puckett, Chuck Knoblock, Greg gane, Greg Gangye, Chillie Davis, Oh.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Where is butch Winerger? That was also before the the.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Older Jack Morris on that team, Scott Ericson, Mark Guthrie
of the pen.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, let me take a break speaking to Baseball
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Coming up, we'll talk about their podcasts that are on
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And I'm Joe Madden.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
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We're going to dive into what goes on in the
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Speaker 7 (19:18):
Baseball, cars, wind, whatever else we want to talk about.
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Speaker 2 (19:30):
Proud of the podcast platform that we have at Danpatrick
dot com. We have a couple of new podcasts up
there and they come from the co founders of john
Boy Media, Jimmy O'Brien, the founder of john Boy Media,
host of Jimmy's Three Things podcast, and Jake Storielli, co
founder of john Boy Media, host of Wake and Jake podcast.
(19:53):
As we welcome them to The Dan Patrick Show and
The Dan Patrick Show platform for podcast. Jimmy, let me
start with you. For those unaware of John Boy Media,
explain how all of this got started.
Speaker 14 (20:07):
Well, it started as the two of us just talking
Yankees together because I was living in California and he
was in Dallas and we were living with girlfriends at
the time and had no one else to talk Yankees about.
And then the Yankees were good in twenty seventeen, so
we got an audience because people wanted to tune in,
and from there it's just steamrolled and snowballed into anything
(20:29):
we really wanted to be and come and now we're
a company of fifty people with multiple shows and doing
stuff we never thought we'd be doing. So it's been
awesome to have an audience that has allowed us to
get to the spot.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
When did you guys go national?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
What was the moment where all of a sudden we
were hearing more about John Boy.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
Twenty nineteen was the moment where we started doing coverage
of the whole league, not just Yankees. And then we
had a couple things that ticked up and ticked up
and ticked up, and then the biggest one was, you know,
hopping on the astros cheating scandal of twenty nineteen and
making videos about that, and that got our name out
to a whole audience.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
We had been pretty big in the New York scene
up until that point, and.
Speaker 14 (21:12):
Then I think that helped us because we launched Talk
in Baseball, we brought Trevor Plue, a former player on,
and we were covering the whole league after that.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Jake, what was it about it with that astro scandal
where all of a sudden it started to resonate with people.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
When did you know you guys had something?
Speaker 15 (21:29):
Well, Man, I always say it should be like the
case study of new media, because The Athletic was on
it and it was behind a paywall, so you know,
everyone read the article and was like, oh, wow, astros
are cheating. Ooh, and then Jim posts the video and
you see a picture on the mounds like something's not
(21:51):
right here, and I don't know, I mean, there's so
many times in different sports things where you see the
video and it changes how you think and yeah, that
left sport.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, we consume video. We can understand video as opposed
to reading a story. Sometimes the story can be confusing
and then you're trying to visualize that you guys took
all the guest work out of it. It's like here
it is. Now you decide, when did you hear from
Baseball or the Astros or anybody else?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Lawyers?
Speaker 7 (22:21):
God, No, never heard from anyone, you know.
Speaker 14 (22:24):
Rosenthal reached out and he was, I would I'm always
nervous because people credit us for breaking the story, which
I used quotes because we did. Evan Drelich and Rosenthal
did years of grunt grunt work to get people on
the record. What I did is that just made it
tangible and shared the video proof. And Rosenthal actually reached
out and said, I was Actually, it was like weight
(22:45):
off my shoulders to see us be backed because it
was kind of they were, you know, throwing that out
there and it could have been scoffed at and say, yeah, right,
who cares.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
So that was nice to hear from them.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
But MLB Astros we've never never reached out about that
or at that time.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now would you how would you label your site? Because
there's comedy in there. I mean, you're having fun, but
you guys should die hard baseball fans. So is it
a baseball website?
Speaker 14 (23:14):
Well, it started baseball for sure, We've grown into other areas.
We have guys that cover football, we have some lifestyle stuff.
We've even had like our own section of creating our
own sports in a warehouse that is more like reality
TV show, So we've been able to do everything we wants.
Definitely baseball Baseball Adjacent Adjacent is the like crux of
what we're doing. And then it's fan led, so we're
(23:37):
not trying to be unbiased in any way. We're trying
to be very honest and let you know, you know
we're Yankees fans, so as people get upset about that,
but we're not going to hide it or change our thoughts.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
So it's fan led media.
Speaker 14 (23:50):
We used to say, but I don't know, it's uh analysis,
but taking ourselves pretty lightly, I think that would how
I would sum it up.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Courtesy of en Boy. We have two podcasts up at
Danpatrick dot com. Jimmy's Three Things and then there's Wake
and Jake. All right, Jake, so what can we expect
with your podcast?
Speaker 15 (24:11):
I'm Jake Ye and I man, I'm sports. I grew
up in Connecticut. I grew up with ESPN in the backyard.
I was like raised by old sports centers. So in
a way, like I'm taking you know, we're family that man.
I obviously we're so deep into baseball that I I
do lean into baseball. That's what a lot of people
look at us. But I'm I love sports man. So
(24:33):
I'm especially this time of year with NBA playoffs going,
with NHL playoffs going, Yukon hoisting another banner.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Obviously, I just love sports.
Speaker 15 (24:43):
So if someone's looking to talk sports and kind of
I'm a very I'm just a naturally friendly person.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
I like people.
Speaker 15 (24:50):
I think there's a lot of people that don't like
saying that. The a joke I make a lot is
like I'm the perfect last invite to a wedding because
I'm just like friendly. I'm gonna have a couple drinks,
dance a little bit. So it's kind of like that
with sports.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
He's gonna dance a lot. There's a lie at the end.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
There, Okay, and then Jimmy's three things.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So that's heavy baseball.
Speaker 14 (25:11):
Basically, I'm sitting down and talking to the audience. It's
just me in a room, and I like to deep
dive into whatever the biggest story is and really dive
into the weeds, and sometimes the audience is on a
journey with me. So I did a big one the
other day about the Mets not sliding into second base
to break up double plays when McNeil got mad, and
instead of just having the surface level reaction to it,
(25:34):
I like to actually go like, wait, does McNeil break
up double plays? And then oh, does do the Mets
break up double plays? And going really into the weeds.
So it's kind of watching a crazy baseball fan get
lost within weeds. And then I pull myself out and
move on to the next topic as quickly as I can.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So when Aaron Judge slides into second and he's got
his you know, the the mitt on his sliding mit
there ofn mit, you guys react to that.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Yeah, that's that's definitely one that you know.
Speaker 14 (26:02):
I'd like to go find all the footage of him
sliding when it's a double play, all the footage of
him sliding when he's just stealing second, is that a
different slide? What about a hustle doubles? Is the hand
up going there? So that's that's the type of stuff
that I do on Jimmy's Three Things.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But but is it you guys against the world when
it comes to your opinions, like do you want people
athletes to agree with you and people to agree with
you or would you rather stir it up and be
sort of We don't mind being villains here.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
I think we can have fun when we want.
Speaker 14 (26:32):
We don't really lean into being poking the bear just
to poke the bear. If I have an opinion that
I think will stir people up, I'll definitely do it.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
But we're not aiming for that.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
It's, uh, you know, I always tell you I couldn't
even dress up for Halloween. I can't not be myself,
so I can't do the whole I'm going to be
a contrarian just to.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
Do it stuff.
Speaker 14 (26:53):
So it's you know, I really dislike the Rays. I
have fun poking that bear, but I truly don't like them.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Why all because I can't get into that.
Speaker 14 (27:03):
But I they just you know, they brag about not
paying their players any money and they all get injured
and they never actually won.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
When's the last time the Yankees won?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, well they win games.
Speaker 14 (27:18):
But I I the same thing about the Yankees too.
I think that's the other thing is everyone's like, well,
the Yankees stink, and we're like, we know, we we
we are well aware.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Do you want and let's say you could have a
current baseball player on your podcast.
Speaker 15 (27:35):
It's tough because we always juggle the are they going
to be real? Like Aaron Judge? Obviously we're Yankee fans,
and if we could get a real combo a Judge
and he's gonna let it eat with us like, that
would be awesome. But you know, Aaron Judge kind of
lives by the Yankee way and he gives he gives
the right answer. So that's we We always have a
lot of agencies talk about sending players our way, and
(27:57):
they're like, you.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Know, what do you want?
Speaker 15 (27:59):
We want the play who are gonna be real? Like,
let's let's chop it up and talk.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So you wouldn't want Geter on the podcast.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I'd be embarrassed of how that I would look.
Speaker 14 (28:09):
Him and Tory are the only two people I were
I've seen in the same room, and I kind of
melted like a little boy.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
So, Uh, I would love to have geter on.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
But I bet he's not gonna say anything.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
No, he's not. But for my just for like a
personal thing. Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 14 (28:23):
Business wise, I'd get Otani any day. I don't care
if he doesn't say anything that's gonna it's gonna lead
to some new new viewership.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What about a Rod who Rod?
Speaker 15 (28:34):
We've we we cross paths with Rod briefly.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (28:38):
We have a guy, Joe's McFly that that works at
our company. He's uh, he famously went viral the uh
when Devers clip Chapman Uh for that first time when
Devers was a kid. He's still like in commercials and
stuff for it. And he's he's pretty close with a Rod.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (28:55):
I talked to Rod, but you never know where that's
gonna land.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
They are the the co founders of John Boy Media
and there's two podcasts available, Jimmy's Three Things and Waken Jake.
The podcast so twice weekly for that when the Baseball Show.
Jimmy's Three Things where three things of the week that
he wants to talk about. It's great to have you
guys on board and have fun have fun with this.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Yes, thank you very much, appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That's the founder of John Boy Media, host of Jimmy's
Three Things podcast, Jimmy O'Brien, and Jake Storielli, co founder
of John Boy Media, host of Wakenjake podcast available at
Dan Patrick dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
And if you go back to.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
When we first really saw John Boy Media on the
national stage was with the Astros in the cheating scandal.
Because there were some really good baseball reporters who came
out with the story, but it felt like it was
a little more complex. John Boy Media just sort of said,
let's pair this down. Listen. You can hear them banging
(29:58):
on garbage cans. They you know, So the audio part
of it, the visual part of it, played such a
large role, and then you were able to go, oh,
john Boy Media. So they made a name for themselves
back with that cheating scandal.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yes, Paul, and we played the clip I remember on
the show that morning and it was almost like, oh,
you know what, if you accuse someone stealing something from
a song or an artist, you're like, well maybe, and
then you play him side by side. Like the article
in Sports Illustrated had lots of great detail on the
athletic about the science stealing. But John, Boy, when you
saw it, you're like, oh, there's no doubt, there's no doubt,
(30:32):
there's no benefit.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, when you're listening and then you hear it, you're like, oh, well,
it's so obvious. Let me get a couple of phone
calls in here, Steven in Valencia, Hi, Steven Woods, on
your mind today?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
ADP.
Speaker 16 (30:48):
Let me make sure I'm not getting any fuzz But yeah,
I wanted to stick with the MVPs. Not in the
Hall of Fame discussion, especially with baseball. Okay, I'm not
sure if it's been brought up, but a very classy gentleman.
I think you would love because he every time I've
had a chance to talk to him, he just makes
(31:08):
you feel like he remembers your conversations. And he's too
famous to do that. But it would be Don Newcombe.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, former pitcher. Yeah, good call. I
thought you were going to say Barry Bonds. You know,
he remembers all of your conversation, talks to the little
evil he is. Yeah, I think you'll get that random
MVP in baseball, but you don't get that in basketball
or football, at least modern day football from maybe the
(31:39):
late seventies early eighties. On basketball, the same way baseball,
you can have a magical year, like Roger Maris won
the MVP when he hit sixty one home runs, but
that was it. One Gonzales won two MVPs, but he
was involved in the the steroid reports that came out stories.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Yes, yes, Mark, and like George Bell and Ken Kaimanitty
had MVP awards.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, huh, they had a good year. Yeah, Ken Kamanity
that was under suspicion as well. Thanks. See did Roger
Merris win two MVPs?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I thought back to back because he went to them,
the Cardinals or Kansas City to the Yankees.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah, but you're right back to back.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Nineteen sixty with the Yankees, he was MVP nineteen sixty
one MVP with the Yankees, he hit thirty nine homers
to win it, and then he hit sixty one homers
to win.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
It, and then the year he hit sixty one. I
think Mickey Mantle hit fifty four home runs. Michel Cabrera
has two MVP's. See, I thought that Mike Trout and
Miguel Cabrera were similar. Now, Cabrera won a World Series,
but I mean Cabrera's offensive numbers are crazy, but two
(32:57):
MVPs and then he's not played with the Tigers anymore,
is he.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
No?
Speaker 8 (33:02):
I think he retired. He's got a triple crown.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean he's he had a That's where everybody said, oh,
he's the next Mike Trout's the next Mickey Mantle. Well, okay, maybe,
but I would aspire to be Miguel Cabrera because he
he did win a World Series title, a triple crown,
probably had a couple of batting titles. There, had five
hundred home runs, three thousand hits. That's where you you
(33:26):
kind of start there of great right handed hitters of
all time, where you want to get to that platform, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Cabrera played five years with Florida, then he went to
Detroit for the next fifteen or sixteen, and he had
seasons of three forty four, three thirty three forty eight,
three thirty eight, four batting titles in five seasons. Dang, nutty, dang. Yeah,
when he was at his peak. His bad seasons were
like two ninety four.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, because Trout, I think had ten home runs so
far this year eight were solo and he was batting
like two twenty So it wasn't, you know, the start
of a magical year here, but now out indefinitely.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, Paul Poolholse's numbers.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
People should just look at them every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Those ten years.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Oh god, I mean average and power. I mean yeah,
three fifty nine and forty three homers. I mean it
was different.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it was just you were looking and then but
the guy came out of nowhere. Now that's always what's amazing.
It's like, how did nobody spot this guy being this good?
Thirteenth rod draft?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I know? Yes.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Mark Cabrera also went to the World Series with the
Tigers in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Okay, okay, yeah, did some damage on bulldet That's pretty good. Yeah,
pretty good career.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
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Speaker 2 (34:56):
Davante Adams is the wide receiver for Las Vegas. He
of course, played in Green Bay and he talked recently
on the Rush podcast about not regretting leaving the Packers,
but didn't realize the quarterback who's still there in Green
Bay was this good.
Speaker 17 (35:14):
At the time when I was there, I hadn't necessarily
seen enough to say this is for sure what I
should do. But in hindsight, like we talked about, I mean,
a kid is all the man, I'm so happy for him,
and you know, I haven't really had a chance to
truly sit down and talk with him, but I just
I want to tell him at some point, like, you know,
I definitely don't regret changing, but I'm super proud of
(35:34):
what you've done. And you know, if there was a
way I could pull you over here and you know,
and drag you with me like that, you know that
would have been cool too, because you know, obviously we
saw what he did at the end of the year.
But I don't regret what I did. But at the
same time, it is definitely you look back on you like,
man that wake out a bull. Could he be the
next one?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I'm wondering why you don't see that in practice now.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I know you need to see it in game like situations,
but how many reps did he get with the first team,
and are you really keeping an eye on a backup
quarterback who most people probably thought, first of all, why
are you drafting him? And came out of a football
program that doesn't produce great quarterbacks, and now all of
a sudden, he's backing up Aaron Rodgers. But I think
(36:19):
at some point, as we've talked about, you probably had
DeVante Adams and a few others saying, I just don't
want to deal with the uncertainty here. I don't want
to deal with Aaron Rodgers drama every time I come
in here. Hey, he's made me great. I could be
a Hall of Fame wide receiver, but I'm going to
get paid and maybe I get less drama. Now you
(36:40):
go to the Raiders. Okay, you made the playoffs a
couple of times. I believe you don't have a quarterback.
Now they do have two tight ends and you have
him as wide receiver. You know they've got some pieces there.
If they get their quarterback. That quarterback comes in, it's
like all right, like this, it's sort of like you
(37:01):
know JJ McCarthy in Minnesota. Now I got a running back,
I got two wide I maybe have the best wide
receiver in football. Good tight end Jordan Addison another really
good wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I got a coach who's great with quarterbacks, and I
think that's why people are high on JJ McCarthy is
I think the fourth betting favorite for Rookie of the Year.
He's got weapons there, all right. Some phone calls in
Jacob and Florida speaking of the Vikings. Hi, Jake, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
How you doing da good?
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Jake?
Speaker 11 (37:38):
I just wanted to know what do you think of
the Vikings this year?
Speaker 8 (37:42):
And do you think this year's kind of.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
Make or break for Justin Jefferson's future over there?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well, he's going to sign a contract. It's going to
pay him thirty million dollars a year. I'm gonna guess
he will still maintain his status. Now, Sam Darnold's going
to start, I would think, although they'll probably be a
push later on this summer if JJ McCarthy shows that
he is who he's supposed to be. But Sam Darnell
(38:08):
probably makes the most sense. And you get an experienced
quarterback there, and you know Justin Jefferson will still get
his catches. But I wouldn't worry about that. Gus and
Virginia Beach. I guess what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Good morning. I don't have to talk to all of you boys.
Roman Dave Briel speaking of MVPs, he had that tremendous
season and then and then he was runner up to
OJ Simpson when the juice rushed for over two thousand yards,
so candidly that could have been a two time mvpre
(38:43):
and he's not in the hall.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
All right, Well, thank you, Gus.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, we were talking about quarterbacks from probably late seventies
early eighties on because the position changed as far as
the numbers that we now expect a quarterback to have.
But Roman Gabriel is a great quarterback for the Rams.
Just passed away recently. Quinton in Georgia, Hey Quinton, what's
(39:08):
on your mind?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 3 (39:11):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
First time?
Speaker 18 (39:14):
Long time? Change the subject club? Going back to you
were talking about those songs that Johnny Cash I've been
everywhere and just a little trivia about that song. That
song was actually written by an Australian country and Western
singer back in the fifties and the names of the
cities in that song were Australian songs. So can you imagine.
(39:37):
Can you imagine how that was? And then it was
recorded again in Britain and then a Canadian American country
and Western legend. Hank Snow recorded it first in the
States in nineteen sixty two or thereabouts. But my point
about calling this I doubt if they had a TA
proper they were probably rating those things off.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Okay, under the number of cities that Johnny Cash mentions in,
I've been everywhere, man. If I said seventy five cities,
who's taking the over? And I've been everywhere, man, anybody,
I'm taking this significantly under. Okay, Marvin, take it over
(40:22):
like eighty one? All right, God, under like sixty six, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm gonna accuse myself.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Okay, do you have the answer that ninety two towns cities?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You know, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota, Buffalo, Toronto, with God?
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Would you learn today it wasn't nice too?
Speaker 10 (40:36):
You were drinking a forty three dollars double jack and
coca at the Bille Joel concert left Friday Night of
the Garden.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
Yes, seat no Connor, Rob Mcellenny more sincere than Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yes, I don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Marvin you said, Derek Rose is not a Hall of Famer. No,
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