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May 24, 2024 41 mins

Dan considers the repercussions of the NCAA settling three federal antitrust lawsuits paving the way for schools to pay athletes directly. And he brings on college sports insider Pat Forde to break it down in easy to understand terms.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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hour two, let's recap hour one. First, Seaton, I.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Would love to Dan who had a better day yesterday?
College athletes or Scotti Scheffler. You're not going to believe this,
and I find this shocking, but fifty one percent of
the audience say Scotti Scheffler.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay, I find that shocking.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I think it's crazy that yesterday the NCAA and the
Five Conferences announced that they're finally going through after one
hundred years of doing this, have finally announced that they're
going to start paying players. Yeah, and it's kind of
with the.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, that's crazy. We're going to have more on this
coming up. Pat forty, who covers college athletics. In agreement
between the NCAA and all five Power five conferences, they're
settling three federal antitrust cases, paving the way for athletes
to be compensated for their contributions instead of being treated

(01:31):
as amateurs being paid for their athletic work through scholarships
for their education. The move comes from the nc DOUBLEA
so they can settle three anti trust cases. The NCAA
has to pay more than two point seven billion dollars
in damages over ten years to pass and current athletes,

(01:53):
sources said. The parties also have agreed to a revenue
sharing program to allow each school to show share up
to roughly twenty million dollars per year with its athletes.
All Division one athletes dating back to twenty sixteen are
eligible to receive a share as part of the settlement class.
I don't know how you divvy this up. I do

(02:14):
have a lot of questions. I don't have a lot
of answers. But let's say each school has roughly twenty
million dollars per year to pay its athletes. How do
I decide the starting quarterback or a gymnast. How about
the lacrosse team that wins the national title. The football
team has three wins, and I know revenue producing, you're

(02:39):
going to go with football and then basketball. The other
schools aren't going to be bringing in a large amount
of money. But how do you what if you're the
starting quarterback but then you lose your role and you're
on the bench. Are they paying you something commensurate to
be in the starting quarterback? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I'm curious how this, like, what effect it has if
any on competitive balance?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Does it help or does it hurt?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
If everybody's capped at twenty million, then yeah, it's definitely,
you know, skewed more towards the Alabamas of the world, say,
than a much smaller school.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
But I don't know, is it going to be that
far out of whack? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I don't know how that affects, you know that just
the competitive nature of sport.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
But you have the big ten schools, they're going to
earn about seventy million dollars a year, the SEC maybe
forty million, ACC maybe twenty million. I don't know what
the Big twelve is going to make. But you're going
to have these schools. That's why UCLA and USC were like, hey,
screw the travel we don't care. We can't pass up

(03:47):
this kind of payday. That's why you want to go
to the Big ten. They just signed that new deal.
NBC and Peacock involved in that, Fox involved in that.
And there's money, I think obviously with these schools. All right,
so pat forty will join us a little bit. We'll
talk about that. Oiler is over the Stars in double
overtime and Panthers at the Rangers. Game two coming up tonight.

(04:09):
Also the damn Marvin Sorry, let's get up the only
Cup playoffs Mavericks at the Timberwolves. That'll be Game two.
Celtics roll the Pacers one twenty six to one ten
Jalen Brown goes for forty. It doesn't matter to the
national media. Maybe to US fans, what are we waiting
for the Celtics to win the title? It's you know,

(04:32):
like Dallas Cowboys. Hey he won thirteen games, great, what
do you do in the postseason? Oh, we lost at
home to the Green Bay Packers. Doesn't matter. That'll be
the case with the Celtic no matter what they do
in their winning by impressive margins. They had a historically

(04:53):
great season. It doesn't matter. All we care about bottom
line did you win the title. Now, there's going to
be an asterisk besides the Celtics this year if they
do win, because you'll hear the following, Well, you know,
this team was banged up, and that team was banged up.
Tyre's Halliburton got hurt last night. Who knows what his

(05:15):
status is going to be. What's not like the Celtics
intentionally hurt players. The players just got hurt playing against
the Celtics, or they got hurt in a different series.
There will be that asterisk by this now, nobody put
one by the Bulls when they beat the Lakers their
first title, Magic it was hurt, they were banged up,

(05:38):
but nobody says, yeah, well Mike won his first one,
and they that Laker team wasn't great. That didn't come
up right. I mean, how old was Kareem back then?

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Were you nine?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
He was nine. But it's it's, you know, interesting how
we pick and choose. Now, Lebron went in a bubble. Okay,
everybody played in the bubble. They didn't have a home
court advantage. To me, it was tougher winning in the
bubble then it would have been if you had home
court advantage, which they would have had at damn media.

(06:13):
You can't trust them. Charles Barkley a lot of reaction yesterday.
That's all Charles, not me. That's Charles. I just I
pitch batting practice and I hope he swings for the
fences and he did. And you know what, some of
us have had gone scorched earth on our former employees
when we leave a company. Charles is going scorched earth

(06:35):
on his employers while he's still there. He's got another
year there. I mean, he's calling him out. He's liking
them to Boone's Farm and Mad Don in twenty twenty.
You know, here's he's got opus as you know, his
favorite wine and Inglenook and then he goes those are
good ones. Yeah they are, Yeah they are, but he

(06:58):
likened to what's going on that they've become boons Farm
also quality.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I've had Bon's Farm. I had a solid run in
high school of Mad Dog twenty twenty. Oh you did,
Oh boy?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Did I ever? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah that was like a weekend regular.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I go meet with everybody. We'd have a big box
full of it. Yeah. Yeah, I felt really icky when
I would do Mad Dog twenty Like I was really
down on my luck if I was known that. But
I felt a little better with Boon's Farm for some reason.
And your girlfriend could share the Boons farm because you
get strawberry Boons Farm. Everybody's having a good time, strawberry

(07:37):
Kiwi or something. Yeah, something like.

Speaker 8 (07:39):
Yeah, it's like drinking Steel Reserve when I was in college. Okay,
It's like, where did I go wrong in life? Don't
drinking Steel Reserve.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Although I drank Cold forty five when I was in college,
and you know, it's malt liquor, of course, but I
didn't feel like I was down on my luck. It
was like I got Cold forty five, you know. I
quickly learned though that they're other beers that were a
little bit you know, upgrade with that.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, Paul, I had a brief period at college where
in summer I live with a bunch of dudes and
we're drinking something called Cisco, and I looked it up
a couple years later and had got taken off the
market by the Surgeon General.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's not at Cisco.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I don't know what it tasted like or what, but
d that was a wild summer.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Damn. Yeah, I remember Cold forty five. Malt liquor and
Old English, and then you tried drinking those now and
my dad had Schlitz and Stros. Thus we never ever
stole this beer from the refrigerator. He even said, he goes,
you guys never take my beer, and we're like, no

(08:42):
drinking that Schlitz weedamand Stros blats only top shelf for
my dad.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Pulling back in the day, did.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
You guys have your own personal go to hangover cure?
Like college? Post college, did.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
You have a move?

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Now we're in drinks like water in an advail, But
in college we would go out and get like Chinese
food at ten am.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, I would just start drinking again hair of the Dog. Yeah,
I just go all right, I'm going back in. I
put my miner's helmet on. I'm going back in a
day drinking. Yes, I did a.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Lot of Chinese food, but I never had a hangover.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I would just go straight to dark Chinese food. Thank
you time. What's poll question for hour two? Sutan? It
might be basically what's your favorite hangover cure? As a
matter of fact, we should do that. I think a
good greasy burger always worked. Yeah, for some reason. Yeah,
that works like I'm gonna soak this up a little bit.
You know, what you learn later on in life is
that you have to take care of your hangover the

(09:43):
night before. You have to oh a preemptive strike.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yes, yes, you have to like chug a bunch of
water right before you go to bed.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
But who wants to do that?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
And I'm just saying that nobody wants to do that.
But if you do it, it does work. You know,
like instead of chugging that gatorade right when you wake up,
you have to do it right before you go to bed,
and you're going to wake up being like.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Wow, I'm not nearly as hungover as I thought I
was going to be. That's pretty good. I went to
a bachelor party in Atlanta, and I remember the next
morning I was in trouble and my friend had red
gatorade in his refrigerator and I got it and I
started drinking and all did it taste good? And then
all of a sudden, red gatorade came back up. Somebody,

(10:31):
a neighbor saw me and thought I was throwing up
blood and called the ambulance. So they get there and
I go, no, it was red gatorade. And there so
and I said, no, that here it is. It's red gatorade.
But if you saw it, you know I'm a vomitatorium
and I it looks like I'm throwing out blood. So
the neighbor, you know, she was being a good neighbor,

(10:54):
I guess, and I called called the ambulance or a
little too nosy. There's always one of those people in
your neighborhood being a good neighborhood ottun of mind your
own bus.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
They need to everybody's business.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, you know what, I'm just throwing up? Okay, leave
me alone?

Speaker 8 (11:11):
Yes, are you're overdosed on a lecture life basically you're okay,
you didn't have to stay.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, it's the sugar. I guess. I don't know, but
it was all of a sudden, You're it looked like
get right out of a horror movie where you would
have went, oh my god, what's happening over there?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh it is kind of entertaining, though in the moment
they're like, whoa.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
What did I just do?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
And I felt strangely better after throwing up with the
red gatorade, just a massive relief. Yes, And then all
of a sudden, you know, you're You're like heads looking
up and there's the ambulance there, and I'm going, who's sick?
What happened there? I go, oh, yeah. One time I
was in New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
I had I had stayed out essentially the entire night before,
and I didn't get back home until like probably like
six thirty in the morning. It was a long night,
and I'd made plans with the buddy of mine to
go to the warp tour that day, and he was
picking me up at like eight thirty or something. We

(12:16):
were going to take the train down and so I
wake up to him. I'd just gotten home. I'm seeing
quadruple of everything, and he's like, dude, get up. You're
not bailing on me, no way, Like get up. So
he drags me to down the shore. We go watch
these bands or whatever, and then we're on our way
home on the train and I pass out. I wake
up about four stops after our stop, my friend nowhere

(12:40):
to be found, and the police going smacking me, Get up,
Get up, and the conductor.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Being like he's been like this all time, Get up. Yeah,
not ideal. So then I'm stuck in this town four
stops away. I'm like, how the hell do I get home?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I called somebody, They come pick me up, my buddy,
I'm like, dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
How did you leave me? It was the worst. It
was the worst. Anyway. That was a surprising way to
wake up youth. That's wasted on the young. It is
Andrew in Washington. Hi Andrew, what's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (13:16):
Good morning, DP and Dana's Happy Meet Friday. I hope
you guys enjoy it. Hey, I do have a stat
of the day, but first I wanted to point out,
like you said after Game two, was Rick Carlisle in
the New York series, how he was arguing the calls
and sending videos to the NBA because he thought and
he did, and they did win that series, so he
thought he still have a chance. I don't feel that

(13:38):
this time around. He's talking about injuries and hippolaws and
not calls. So I don't really see that Indiana has
a chance to come back from O two in this series.
But my stat of the day is a Tim Kirchen
style stat of the day. All right, No, no good
news about the Las Vegas Athletics. They do have one
picture making history. Their reliever Mays Miller has thrown nineteen

(14:01):
o third scoreless innings with forty k's and no walks
overs last fifteen appearances. That makes Miller the first picture
with fewer than five walks and more than thirty five
k's in a scoreless fifteen games. Fans since at least
nineteen oh one, right stead out.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Of the day, SAT of the day be stat of
the day, stat of the day. Here comes that MO
stat of.

Speaker 10 (14:26):
The day.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Mike and Wisconsin. Hey Mike, what's on your mind?

Speaker 11 (14:34):
Lauren Fellas full question idea and I want to tell
you why I bring this up.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
So most impactful play.

Speaker 9 (14:42):
Caller of all time and.

Speaker 11 (14:45):
The reason I bring it up. I'm not a regular
season hockey guy playoff hockey. I'm all in so Stars oilers.
Last night, I'm watching double overtime, exactly what you're looking
for out of a playoff hockey game. But it just
felt like something was missing, and then it hit me.
Not having Doc Emrick on the call just brought that

(15:07):
excitement level down a couple notches for me. I think,
in my opinion, he's the exception to that you don't
tune in just for who's on the call.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, he did enhance whenever whatever game he called, it
was better. And that's the toughest sport to call. And
Mike was the best at doing that, which says and
I do miss him. I thought about him the other day.
I thought, you know, I should give him a call
just to see how he's doing. I can't imagine what
that's like. I mean, I had a little bit withdraw

(15:38):
when I left Sports Center, and then i'd watched Sports Center.
Then I stopped watching Sports Center, like that's part of
your life. It was eighteen years that I did it,
and then you're not doing it, and then you're watching,
and then you're going, no, I'm not gonna watch anymore.
I don't know what that's like for Mike. Marv Albert
who joined us last week. You know, fifty years, sixty
years calling games and then you're not, and what that

(16:01):
must be like.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, Paul and almost every play by place person we've
had on the show said, hockey, by far is the
toughest to do, between the names and the line changes
and the speed of the passing. Yeah, it's way different
than basketball.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
All right.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I'm not sure what happened yesterday with the mc DOUAA
deciding that colleges can finally pay athletes. What does it mean?
What's it mean? Not only for the athletes, What's it
mean for you? The fan? Pat forty from Yaoho's Sports
will join us, coming up next Dan Patrick's show.

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Speaker 2 (17:20):
YEA, more phone calls coming up. I saw this story yesterday,
five takeaways from the NCAA deciding that colleges can finally
pay athletes. USA Today went through the five and then
I go, Okay, I'm still trying to figure it out.
An agreement between the NCUBLEA and all five of the
Power Conferences settling three federal antitrust cases paved the way

(17:45):
for athletes to be compensated for their contributions instead of
being treated as amateurs, being paid for their athletic work
through scholarships and for their education. So I'm reading through
it and I immediately thought of Pat Forty from Yahoo Sports.
I'm gonna put it on him. Pat, explain this to
me as a football fan. What's it mean?

Speaker 5 (18:08):
It is a new day in college athletics, Dan, but
you know, this is kind of another step along the
way to a bunch of new days. But what it
basically means is that schools can actually themselves pay athletes.
That's the news dynamic here, as opposed to trying to
farm it out to a collective or pretending you're not

(18:29):
involved in who's going to get paid what, or just
flat out boosters paying athletes under the table, so we
have an institutionalized form of compensation for athletes. It's a
ton of money. The settlement is in the billions and
will be tens of billions going forward for the next
ten years.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, a few questions come to mind. Is there still
going to be ANIL.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
There will still be ANIL, and some of this may
actually be co ed nil money, but there will be
most likely be name, image and likeness opportunities for athletes
above and beyond whatever their quote unquote salary would be,
which would ostensibly be ANIL salary, but there will be
more available to them.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, are they university employees.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Not at this point, And that's kind of been one
of the needles the NCAA and college Athletics has been
trying to thread here of we don't want an employee
employer relationship. Let's see if we can find a way
to pay you guys without making it specifically that kind
of a deal.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Compensation for what your sport, the revenue that your sport.
How do I divvy up the starting quarterback or the
star of the lacrosse team that won a national title
to be determined, and.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
That will probably get dribbled down to be a institutional
decision of how the money gets distributed. The question there becomes, okay,
what's the title nine impact? If you're going to pay
the football team x, do you also have to pay
the women's basketball team this amount? Or you know, a
star women's volleyball player. So all of those details have

(20:14):
not been hashed out at all, but it's probably going
to be up to eat it each institution. Do you
want to pay up to twenty two million a year
in salary basically to players or do you want to
pay less than that? And then who gets it?

Speaker 7 (20:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
So the university, it's case by case of do you
want to spend all the money each year on your athletes? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:35):
That's at least. The theory right now is that this
will be school by school decision, and some schools going
to look your your Ohio State's, your Michigan's, your Alabama's,
et cetera, will be able to eat Texas easily be
able to spend the full twenty two million, and then
some you know, via outside an il if they want.
Other schools, the Mississippi States, the Iowa States, the Purdues

(20:58):
may say, ah, we're not going to go that far,
and then the big question is really how far down
the scale do you go for the schools outside of
the Power file.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Does this make it more likely or less likely that
college football is going to maybe have forty or fifty
teams that each year compete for a national title.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I think it's another step in that direction. You know
that this is a further economic thinning of the herd
if you will, and you know who can afford this
and who can't afford it. You know, there's only so
many players to go around. I mean, there's more players
than there is spots. So you should still theoretically be
able to have, you know, a Cincinnati or somebody from

(21:40):
outside of the Power five that can get players. But yeah,
if you're going to the best players are going to
be the highest paid players, and they're going to go
to the schools with the most money. So this is
going to continue probably the trend that we've seen of
consolidating the sport into US fewer number of contenders.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Athletes still get scholarships through this, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Athletes will still get scholarships. There's actually part of this
will probably be that there will be more scholarships, more
athletes on scholarship, but there will be roster limits now
everybody on the roster. If you cap a football roster
at ninety everybody can get a scholarship. Whereas supposed it
used to be eighty five baseball scholarships would have been

(22:21):
in short, short supply will go up, et cetera. That'll
probably be a school by school thing too of how
many scholarships you want to fund, but you can now
fund basically everybody who's on your roster.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Why would the NCAA settle.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Because they were going to lose for the ninety seventh
time in court? You know their record is the Washington
Generals basically in court, and so they were looking at
the possibility of another loss here and up to twenty
billion dollars if you believe the lawyers in potential damages.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Then how do you see this playing out with Alabama, Georgia, Michigan,
Ohio State? Like are they going to be separating even
even further from teams that are in their own conference?

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Probably? You know, I think, so we'll see, you know
that this will be an interesting kind of barrier. I
guess for schools to say, like, hey, Mississippi State, we
can we do this can we can we spend what
Alabama spends and try to get players. You know, they're
certainly have people who are willing to spend money, but
are you willing to spend the same amount or is

(23:30):
this a further area where they pull away? And then
ultimately the decision becomes is this just become a big
ten sec enterprise or even within those conferences is it?
You know, there's there's certain teams that don't want to
keep up or can't keep up. So this is a
real challenge for the ACC for the Big Twelve, for
the what's left of the Pac twelve, and then within

(23:53):
those power conferences, you know, does it become survival of
the fittest?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
And I'm wondering about college basketball, maybe there's a chance
players stay in college an extra year depending on the compensation.
Do you see that as a possibility here?

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Sure, Well, I think we've already seen that. You know,
we've seen some players, you know, especially I can think
of North Carolina Kansas who have stayed in school longer
than you might have expected because there's money to be
had there in their draft status isn't as secure. And
I think this will continue that probably on the football side,
as well. You look at Michigan's roster last year. You

(24:28):
had a number of guys who could have gone to
the NFL, but they stuck around because they were getting compensated.
And I think this will probably only reinforce that.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
And you go back to when Johnny Manziel was on
the cover of Time magazine that was eleven years ago
and the title was time to Pay College Athletes.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, no, I mean, look, this has been in the
works for a while, right. We have seen step by
step the NCAA's obstructionist viewpoint kind of just be whittled
away and eroded, and eventually it became indefensible and then
they started losing in court and everything is really snowballed
in the last five years. And yeah, the Johnny Manziel,

(25:05):
oh gosh, I had to get paid under the table
days are long gone.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Good to talk to you, Pat, have a good weekend.
Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Dan, Pat forty Yeah,
who's sports college football senior writer. Yeah. I'm not sure
about it either now, trying to figure it out short term.
Long term still feels like the haves and the have nots.
That makes me nervous. But if we're going to get
to what I've said for I don't know how many

(25:30):
years now, maybe forty fifty schools. You make it like
the Premier League? Can you have relegation? Can you make
it like the NFL? Can you keep schools in their
area and then you play one another and then each
year you change it up. So this team, you know,
in this part of the Big Ten is going to

(25:52):
play these teams and this part of the SEC. So
you know, there's a lot here and I think we're
going there. I just not sure when we get there,
how we get there.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, it feels a little bit like the historic nature
of the agreement is being lost in the confusion of
the details. Yeah, that's fair, you know, where it's like, Wow,
they agreed to do this, but how the hell are
they going to do this?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I don't know and they don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
But they agreed to do it, which is a massive
step forward or a massive step in a new direction
for sure. Whether you agree it's the right thing or
the you think it's the wrong thing, it's a massive step.
But they had to do it.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's not one of those where they go, you know
what for the betterment of athletes, you know, college sports
let's pay them. It's like we're gonna get sued. I
think we will. I think we need to correct. You
know what we're gonna We're gonna right or wrong here
what we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, Paul, I think scenes right. It doesn't feel real yet.
It feels court real and headline real. But I always
think to myself, so the NCAA and these big schools
will find a way to kick this down the road
a couple more years where it's gonna be like, we're
going to start this in twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, but there's money to be made. That's why schools
went to the Big Ten. That's why schools went to
the SEC. There's so much money to be divvied up.
You want to make sure. That's why you got schools
trying to get out of the ACC. Everybody is, you know,
it's ten for yourself. And I think that's what college
football is going to become. I think college basketball will

(27:23):
probably still be able to stay with March madness. Now.
I think they're going to expand more money, more schools,
more revenue, you got more content for TV partners. It
just feels that that's where we're headed. A couple of
phone calls in here Paul in North Carolina. Hi Paul,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (27:44):
Hey, good morning, Dan, Thanks for reaching out. Yeah, Hey,
I know my time is short, so I've got a
quick question. I want to say a great story. My
question is about the NBA media, right, so maybe you
can adjustice that for My story is, if there's companies
wanting to pay billions of dollars, why would the NBA
just not accept all of them and not eliminate canty.
That's my question. He can address that later. My story, Dan,

(28:06):
is that I want to tell you your voice has legal poll.
I'm in the restaurant business where I listen to your
show at all different times during the day. I was
coming home at a night on the interstate, go a
little fast and I probably should have got pulled over,
shuffled in my glove compartment looking for my stuff, and
as the CoP's gonna need he gets up to me
super quick. I've got your podcast on. He introduces himself,

(28:28):
and then he stops and he says, is that the
Dan Patrick Show? He said, yeah it is. He says, Wow,
that's my favorite show or radio show. Said yeah, mine too.
He said Okay, a couple quick tests for you, he said,
sixty three two fifteen. I said ding. He says, uh,
who's your favorite? Who's your favorite? Day Net? I said, man,
I love them all, but Fritzy, I really most of Fritzy.

(28:51):
He says, Okay, watch your hands one sure, I said,
not exactly. I said not exactly sure, but probably bigger
than Martin's. He says to me, He says, well, I
caught your speeding, but I've never caught anybody listen to
my favorite show. So have you ever talked to Dan?
Let him know his voice is legal? Pull and they
let me go. So thank you to.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Thank you, Paul, Thank you. Paul's awesome. Let's go pass
the test. I like that. I'm not sure about the TNT.
You know why the NBA, I mean, there's no loyalty
and they want to have more partners and streaming service.
I mean, I get it. It's unfortunate, but it's what

(29:32):
can you do for me?

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Now?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It's not what you did for me, it's as we
move forward. Hey, NBC is willing to spend this? Are
you willing to spend that? Oh you're not well? Thanks
for the memories here, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, if everybody's willing to give them billions,
why don't they just take them all? Well, you're paying
billions for some exclusivity. Once it keeps the more you
divvy up the pie, well, now that's the less I.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Want to pay. I don't want to pay that much more. Yeah,
And if you're TNT, you don't want to have like
the third third tier amount of games there. I mean,
you guys should get the best. And now you're gonna
be like, well, NBC took this, and ESPN took this,
Amazon took this. Here you go, TNT, you get this game,
these games, yeah, Paul.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
And that's what the NFL is gambling on. Right now.
You're gonna have to have five different subscriptions next year
to watch every NFL game. Three years ago, you needed
one subscription to watch every NFL game, and there may
be one of them is gonna lose. One of those
places is gonna get left out. People are like, I
can't subscribe to five things to watch all the games
when someone who's gonna pay a lot of money is

(30:38):
not gonna get Yeah, but it's.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Different with the NFL because of gambling and fantasy. You
don't have that In other sports, it's not as prohibitive
that you got to watch a game and gotta have
a bet on it. And I got fantasy players playing
in the game, So you will be more than likely
getting a streaming service subscription because you have to because
you want to watch your team, you want to bet

(31:00):
on the game, your fantasy team. I get it. The
other sports, that's not the case. It's not like I go, man,
I got to go out and get an Amazon subscription
for Thursday night football or for the NBA. Yeah, I'll
figure it out. I don't need to have to watch
every NBA game, but with the NFL, you feel like

(31:22):
you have to because these are standalone games. There, Dorsey
in North Carolina High dors what's on your mind is good, good, good.

Speaker 13 (31:33):
I've been watching baseball all my life, and I'm really
tired of I'm tired of calling for all the strikes horribly. Okay,
I am fired for about forty years, and if I
had did that, I'd never had a job. I turned
on the game and the first pitch I see is
three three inches outside and they call it a strike. Well,

(31:53):
I just read that Manfred's Manfred said he's not going
to do anything about making it happen in eighty five
that they get to automatic up.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Well, we're gonna get there. In fact, I'm going to
take a break, Doorsey, and we're going to talk about
this because we're going to get to and it's not
robotic umpires. The umpire will still be behind the plate.
It's you'll have a just like tennis. You'll have a
strike zone and they'll say the ball was in the
strike zone or it wasn't. Then they'll let the umpire know.

(32:23):
The Empire will say that's a strike or that's the ball.
You have to have the umpire there in case there's
a play at the plate. It's not like we're gonna
have robots out there on you know, first base, second base,
third base, or at home although it would be kind
of cool. You're out of here, I'm going to run
your leap. All right, let me take a break. We'll
come back. We'll talk about that more phone calls as well.

(32:44):
Brian Windhorst will join us coming up in a little
bit as well. Back after this, be sure to catch
the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at
nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio WAPP. Major Baseball says robot home plate
umpires are unlikely for twenty twenty five now and not

(33:07):
an actual robot. See I think that the description is wrong.
It's still going to be an umpire behind home plate,
but there will be a digital balls and strike system
that's in place, so you'll have an earpiece. And what
they've tried to do in the minor leagues is you'll
have this screen. They'll look and say, was the ball

(33:28):
inside the strike zone? You know, trying to get the
strike zone, you know for each player. Not every player
has the string saying you know, size strike zone. You know,
if Aaron Judge is there and jose L Tuva, there's
a different strike zone for them. But to be able
to do that, Baseball still looks like they have some
hiccups here in the technical aspect of this, and the

(33:50):
commissioner said that's what they're working on, so it wouldn't
be ready for twenty twenty five. You will still have umpires,
but you will also like tennis, they'll have a screen
somebody up above gonna look at it and you'll see
digitally where the ball was. Is it in the strike zone?
Part of the strike zone out of the strike zone,

(34:10):
then you just send you know, you'll signal down with
a ball, and the umpire will signal ball. Now it'll
be quick and I don't know if they do it
up on the screen as well. If you have a
jumbo tron, that's what I would do. You want to
show where it is, then nobody can argue that. Yeah, Paulie, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
They said there will be a behind home plate, like
an instantaneous S or B that would go up so
people could see it, and then a signal to the
person's so the umpire his actual act could be the same.
You put your hand out for a strike, and you
put it out like he may go a strike because
he's being told it's a strike and if he hears
nothing in his ear, that means it's a ball. One
of the reasons a couple of the issues with the

(34:50):
new system is that breaking balls that cut through the
zone or big curves that sweep, if it catches a
piece of the front end of the box that the
strike box, does that count. Does it need to be
the entire ball or even just a whiff of the ball.
The other thing that they're trying to figure out is
catchers that frame pitches. Baseball people say that is an art.

(35:12):
Catchers that frame a pitch and cheat it inside and
get them They baseball people don't want that out of
the game because that's taking away a catcher's talent and
one of the things they do. Manfred saying, that's a
toughie because.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Well, where the ball goes into the strike zone, is
it where it ends up or where you know it
enters the strike zone.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
That's what they're deciding. They're deciding whether pitches that break
drastically if they touch the box in any way, almost
like a you watch tennis, If it just catches one
hair of the line, that's it's in or out.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yes, ton, Now, our checks wings still subjective.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
With a check with the first a third base umpire,
is that going to be technology to see if the
batter broke his wrist?

Speaker 7 (35:54):
I wonder how that part.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Of that should still be first in third base? It
shouldn't change. I don't think so. I mean, I mean,
I guess they would have the technology to look where
the bat is, but I don't know how that registers
because they'll put something in the ball. I'm guessing that
will you know, decide if it's a ball or strike

(36:16):
by where it comes into the zone. It'll read where
that ball comes into the zone. I don't know if
they'll do that with bats, but you know they, for
the lack of a better description, robotic umpires are coming.
They just need to change the definition or description of
that because they're not robotic umpires. I don't know what
else they can come up with. So people don't think
you're going to have this, you know, this metal thing

(36:38):
out there going that is strike. You're out of here.
I guess that's not happening, but it sounds like that
with I don't We don't need robots on a baseball.
There's not going to be robots, there's yes.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
One other little announcement for Manfred is that Baseball is
going back to work with rawlings on baseballs. I didn't
really know they left. They were working with now chemical,
but they're going back to rollings to try to make
a tackier baseball so pitchers won't need to use anything
on their hands and they'll be able to grip it
and spin it better and have more control.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I thought baseball bunt rollings.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, but they were trying to collaborate on developing a
new type of baseball that had a little more grip,
not as.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Smooth, a little more tack. Yeah that's Rick in Florida. Hi, Rick,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (37:24):
All right? Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
I got a DBC story for you. Oh by the way,
five nine two ten.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Eight percent body fat kind good for you.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
So I worked for a very large Toyota store and
I'm sitting in my office to get a call from
the receptionist out front. She says there's a sheriff here
to see you, but he says, you're not in trouble.
I'm like, oh, geez, well let's go if I go
out there and he serves me with divorce papers from
my wife ex wife. Man, no idea was coming totally

(37:56):
out of the blue. That night after work, I go home,
I jump on my motorcycle, ride it down to a
watering hole in walks this woman with two people that
I knew from the bar, and I'm like, who is that?
Introduce us And here we are, seventeen years later married
and she's seventeen years younger than my ex wife.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh congratulations, Rick. I wasn't sure where he was going
with the story there, but the positive ending he got yeah,
a happy ending. DDC. Seaton just just showed us some
of the new merchandise there. The T shirts look great.
Dead Dad's Club. How about a T shirt of I

(38:38):
don't have a Father's Day?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Like we all celebrate.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, Like I don't have a dad, So I don't
have a Father's Day with my dad? Do we do we?
I mean, do we go all in on this? I mean,
it's it's just a way to honor. Of course, it
is a joke. I know. It's not a joke.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
It's more a nervous laughter or like you laugh in
the face of great pain, Like, well, what else am
I going to do?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I bet I gotta laugh at at this point. That's
what it is. I look at it. We're doing you
as service. You may not realize it, but we're doing
you a service. We're doing you a solid. Hey, I
lost my dad a long time.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's a way to bond with other people who are
in a similar situation.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's what it is. It's not I hope it doesn't
sound like this, Oh oh your dad died, dude. Oh yeah,
I'm like too, that's not what it is. Let's let's toast. No, Yeah,
it's more of a we're to gather on this. It's
a brotherhood. Yeah, come on, let's bond together.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Marvin's dad is not dead, but he's dead. To Marvin,
that's a little bit different accepted.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
And the shirts are cheaper than therapy.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah, you want to hide the pain, hide it with
a shirt.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Did you go through therapy h with your dad? With him?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Because of him. My wife was like, Marvin, you should
really go your Your wife does not sound like in
my story.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
She's like Marvin because her and my son, they don't
think me not having a dad is funny at all.
And I'm like, oh, I always had a day off,
and they're like, that is not funny.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I know. Marvin goes, man, I love Father's Day. I
don't know. I don't have a father that I have
to worry about always day off. Yeah, what are you
doing now? Whatever? Don't have to get in gifts? No, no,
no Sizzler today.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
The other three and sixty four days are not as fun.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah. I'm guessing your dad did not take you to Sizzler.
Huh did he?

Speaker 5 (40:46):
No?

Speaker 8 (40:46):
No, no, no, I'm saying I don't have to take my
dad to sizzling. O my dad took me.

Speaker 7 (40:51):
Dad did nothing.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Who maybe it Doesney therapy.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
He might be out there listening, watching, telling everybody that's
my son or not.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
Not never.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
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