May 25, 2024 • 36 mins
Dan talks to Adam Sandler about the start of production on "Happy Gilmore 2." Charles Barkley drops by to express his concern over the future of Inside the NBA on TNT. And Dan bring in college sports insider Pat Forde to break down the details of the NCAA settlement that has paved the way for schools to begin paying athletes directly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, there he is Adam Sandler joining us on the program. Sandmanny,
how are you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I buddy, do you want shades on? Like this or
like this?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think shades? Let's I mean, let's be a movie
star here, let's go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I feel I'm a European. I feel like I feel
like it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I missed you. I'm glad to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm in my trailer. I'm shooting a movie. It's all
going good. I'm in Italy, Italy.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah, okay, I brought I guess who I brought.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I brought lockroom.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Look uh, look at my favorite dog.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
There, miss your mess, your Danny.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Who are you with in Italy?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Family? My family brought the family. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
But I wake up in the morning and rewatch the
basketball games at Anthony Edwards had a of a series,
didn't he?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Last night was good?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And you're the one that told me that he's not
only a great basketball player, but when you put him
in the movie Hustle, that he could act. But how
did you realize Anthony Edwards could kind of hold his
own as an actor.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You know, I'm sorry it went out for a second,
but you were talking to that. I told you how
great he is. Yes, he was just such a funny sweetheart.
The only reason I'll take him off the chase I
look crazy. But the only reason we know of him
is Wancho played on the same team with him, and
when he read the script we were casting, a party goes,
(01:37):
you should use my friend Anthony. He's my teammate. He's great,
he would kill this, and so read with Jeremiah the director,
and Jeremiah's like, oh my god, he's like Paul Newman
or something. He just was like all charisma, came in
(01:58):
hang on one second day. Yeah he Oh, he definitely
had like made everybody by the way, every pro guy
when we were shooting the movie loved him. He just
got something carefree, cool thing about him, and he wants
to win and he and he's he's a badass.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Uh is this movie top secret or something?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You're there? Yeah, you got me, Sorry, Yes, I got you.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Who else is starring in this movie?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
The one I'm doing right now in Italy?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Uh, Clone Laura dernh Uh, it's it's no Bomback, No
bomback movie.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh so you guys were shooting in London now you're
in Italy exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, same movie, same movie. It's still going, man,
okay going, but it's going great. It's going great. We've
been having fun and we've been talking a lot of basketball,
because man, I'll.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Tell you, Europe's starting to know that basketball. Whenever I
go to.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Go out in Italy or in England, they all talk
to me about the Knicks, and they talk to me
about six ers and it was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
They know their stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And every everybody's starting to talk about Anthony Edwards being
a superstar.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I know he's big in America now right, everyone him?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah? Uh so how do you have time to work
on Happy Gilmore too? The script?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's not easy, man. We're going to get to it
in a in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I come home in a couple of weeks in the
Hurl that he flies out, and I and and and
then we get going on that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Can you get me? Can you give me a plot,
like a like a working plot here that you have no.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean I will right when I right when we
zero in.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Now we got we have some million things like I
told you, but I I just got to kind of
make it flow a little more. But I think it
might have to do with something with me being a
little older now and and and still trying to compete.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
With the youngsters.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh, so you're going to be I've been great to
get So you're gonna be playing golf in the movie?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I think so. I think so right right now, I
am yeah, it makes sense to me. But uh, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Hurley he was at the UH He went down to
the tournament this weekend and hung out with some of
the guys. He hung out with Daily a little bit,
and and Daily was selling up some great stories. It was,
we're ready, baby, we're excited.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is John Daily going to be in the movie?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I would like to think so is. But I love him.
I love him, I always did love him.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is Tiger going to be in the movie?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Ah, huh, I'll see what it is. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Is Tiger gonna be?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I forgot? I would love it. We'll see.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm gonna write, I'm gonna write all my dreams and
then you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But we're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'll let you. I'll let you go. I'll let you go. Yeah,
you're you're freezing up.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Uh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You love you too, all right. That's Adam Sandler joining
us from Italy. Yeah, happy you go more to.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
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Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, he's Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer T and T
inside the NBA, joining us on the program. How's morale? Charles?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Well, two things, Dan.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Number one, Mercedes is a great car, Okay, but don't
buy it if you can't afford it. Let's get that
out the way, all right, Only get a merced. Mercedes
is an amazing car. I've had a few in my life.
Don't buy it unless you can afford it. Stop trying
to impress other people. Morale sucks, plain and simple. You know,
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I just feel so bad for the people I work with. Dan,
you know, you know these people have families, and I
just really.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Feel bad for them right now.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
You know, these people I work with, they screwed this
thing up clearly, and we don't have zero I do.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
What's gonna happen? I don't feel good. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Especially when they came out yesterday and said we bought
college football, I was like, well, damn, they could have
used that money they buy the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But it says that TNT Sports added college football playoff
games and a five year deal they're licensing deal with ESPN.
Maybe that's why they're buying this because they don't, you know,
the money they were going to use on the NBA,
they got to do something with.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Yeah, that's what That's the first thing came to my mind.
We've never had college football, that never been involved with
college football, and I'm like, wait a minute, shouldn't we
be spending every dime we got to keep the NBA?
So morale sucks.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
To be honest with you, Dan, I was wondering about this.
I don't know if you guys have talked about this,
but you and Shaq and Kenny and Ernie, how about
just form a production company and continue to shoot, continue
to do the inside the NBA, hire the personnel, keep
the personnel there, continue to do it in Atlanta, and
then you're able to sell that to NBC, say or
(08:00):
Amazon and say here, you already got the best studio
show ready to go. Keep everybody in place. But you
guys own your own production company.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
Well, I've talked to the guys about everybody sign up
with my production company because I have my own production
company and I want to I would love to do
that if we lose it, but I have definitely had
Actually somebody suggested that.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
To me, to be honest with you on the internet.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
So why don't youalk Barkers, sign these three guys, four
guys total, this his production company and sell it. I'm like,
that's a great idea. Yeah, But like I said, you know,
we're just sitting back waiting on these people to figure
out what they're gonna do. You know, you know my
two favorite wines are Ingle Nook and Opus. And these
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clowns I work for they've turned us into Ripple and
booms for them in Thunderberg, Like, we got the best
studio show we want, we just and it's so funny.
We just want the best studio show. But these foods
turn us from Inglenook and Oprah's Enter down Boonee Farm
and Ripple.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're actually angry, I am, you know.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Dan, it's so interesting. I've been spending a lot of
time with the crew lately. I've actually they've been with
these guys who I spent time with. Their they bring
their newborns in, they bring their kids in. They'd come
in like when they were in high school and now
they're graduating for college. I mean, that's how long you know,
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Ernie's been there thirty two years, Kenny's been there twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I've been there twenty four. But think about that.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Some of these people I work with, they bought their
new boys there and they say, hello, old of us.
They bought them in in high school when they graduated,
and now they've already graduated from college. So yeah, I'm
angry people who are like, you know, they're part of
my family, to be honest with you. So and I
feel bad for those guys.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yea, but how did you guys screw it up? How
did TNT mess this up?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Well?
Speaker 7 (09:59):
I think the first thing is, you know, they came
out and said we didn't need the NBA. So I
think that probably pissed Adam off. I don't know that,
but I'm saying, like, you don't because you know, when
we merge, that's the first thing. Our boss said, we
don't need the NBA. But he don't need it. But
the rest of the people meet Kenny, Shack and Ernie
and the people who worked there, we need it.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
So it just sucks right now.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
And you know the thing that's interesting me Kenny Ernie
talk about in Shack all the time, like people walk
up to me.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I'm not even joking. Twenty times a day.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I'm like, dude, thank you for the kind words, but
I have a zero idea what's going to happen. Yeah,
you know, it's funny, like you can't go anywhere. And
then what's really frustrating I'm getting we all are getting
sent like five seven articles a day about we've already
lost it or we own life support. TNT's trying a
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fourth quarter comeback, and I don't know Bill Simmons, who
you know a big Bill Simmons fan. He's sending me,
he's sending they're sending us articles like it's already they've
already lost it, it's made it, it's over with.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I would listen to Mad Dog.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Russo the other day he's like, oh, the deal's over with,
it's already going to NBC.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
So I don't know what to believe. So it sucks
for the people, for all of us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Talking to Charles Barkley, the Hall of Famer TNT's inside
the NBA. Let me start with last night Kyrie Irving.
You know, he's had a quietly great year, like quite
off the court, played well on the court, and it's
almost like this resurgence maybe with Kyrie that now we
kind of rediscover his basketball talents there. What do you
(11:44):
what do you see when you see Kyrie now?
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Well, I think it's great that people seeing what a
great player he is instead of all the stuff that
was going on when he was in Brooklyn and things
like that, because he's an unbelievable player.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
You know, you know, Dan, I'm really glad.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
I went back and looked at a bunch of tape
on my two off days and said, you know, because
I was caught up in the excitement, I said, man
in Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota. But then when I went back
and looked at tape for two days, I was like, damn,
the Man's gonna win this series. And I still think
they're gonna win this series. They got a lot of
severe matchup. The big guy was scary about that game
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last night is they didn't make any shots.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I think they were six or like thirty from three.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
They're gonna get wide open threes because my biggest considered
a Minnesota. They got two issues that I don't like.
Number One, I don't think they can guard a good
three point shooting team because they played those two big guys.
And secondly, Carl Anton Town, who was a very good player.
I don't think he ever used his size to his advantage.
I think he shoots. I think he waited always shoot
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two many threes because he's the only player in the
NBA gonna have a size advantage every night. Every night
he plays. Is he playing that for a position? He's
gonna have a size advantage every single night. But I
saw him post up more against Denver and against the Sons,
and I've ever seen him in his career, and he
was very effective. But last night he went back to
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the guy that drives me crazy. He shot nine threes
and I'm like, damn, dude, you're seven feet tall.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
The guy you're playing against his six seven. Every time
you shoot the three.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
He's like, thank god, I ain't got I ain't got
to wrestle with this guy in the post.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
So that's why I like the MAVs.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
And but I tell you what, you know, the Celtics man,
they really miss Porzos, Gonzinger's, Gauzinga's, whatever his name is,
because they really miss him because he's the only guy
who posts up and he's the only one who shrinks
the floor for Jalen and Jason because you have to
guard him. The whole time. So that's going to be
a really good series. Rick Carlile and the patients have
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done a hell of a job. And they gave a
game away. Man, I was so pissed watching that game
the other night. Out gave that game away.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, you know, back to Dallas. I was surprised that
they dominated in the paint. Dallas dominated Minnesota in the paint.
They outscored them sixty two to thirty eight in the paint.
So you got those big guys, but they don't play big.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It doesn't matter how big you're off. You don't play big.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
And the way they play defense, they play that drop
where the guy just bags up.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
You know what it's like.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
It's like when I'm betting on football and your team
gets the lead and they play that damn prevent defense
and the other team gets a back door cover. That
pisses that day, and that pisses me off every time
I'm watching football. I'm like, good, we got the lead.
We can't lose the game. All we got to do
is stop him one more time. And they play that
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prevent defense. I call it prevent from winning. And when
the guy drops, when the guy drops, he's useless. He
does nothing. He don't stop either play. He doesn't stop
the lob Totop, Luca or Kyrie from scoring. Now, the
problem that Wolve's gotten now is they're probably gonna double
that going forward because you know, in every game you
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make adjustments. Now, what that's gonna do is open up
Dallas three point shooting. They didn't make any in Game one,
but they gonna get the same shots they got in
Game two they got in Game one.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Just saw this. The Cavaliers have fired their head coach, JB.
Bicker Steph. I guess far.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
They had a nice season, you know what.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I'm so disgusted with these punk ass NBA players today.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
The same thing happening to Darvinham and Frank Vogel.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You know, it's always somebody else's faults. Bernie, his dad,
Bernie is a great guy. But he didn't deserve to
get fired. You know, they wait, his second best player
was out. You know, so, man, this is the NBA today.
The players take no responsibility, zero responsibility. But that's the
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third fire. And like Frank Vogel, Darwin Ham and now Bickerstell.
But you know, you know when I end up. When
I interviewed for a couple of jobs, uh, for a
general manager, I wanted complete control.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, when did you when's
the last time you interviewed for front.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I've interviewed for three front office jobs in the last
not it's been probably about five to seven years. But
I want a complete control because I know because as
a general manager or president of basketball operations, you get
to fire like four guys before people realize you're the problem.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I do, I do?
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I think, I think. I think being the president or
the gym is the best job because you're the one
who picking the players and you're the one who making trades.
But I think you get to scapegoat at least three,
more likely four coaches because people never say, say, who'll
put this crappy ass together? It's easier to fire the
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coach and you get to hide out behind closed doors.
So that's when I like when I in the interview
for those jobs, I'm like, yeah, this is a job
I want because I got great job security before people realize, like, wait,
you're the head coach. You get away with murder. You
get to make all these bad trades and bad decisions.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
But if you.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Fire the coach, the kind of shot clock like starts
on you again. So that's the best job in sports,
being a gym in the NBA or president of basketball operations.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
What were the teams that you interviewed with.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I'd rather not say that because I don't want people
to know I was talking about coaches behind their back.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
To be honest with.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You, okay, what about if somebody said, right now to you, do.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You it's probably too It's probably too late for me now.
It's probably too late because I want to do that
in my fifties.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
I'm six. I just turned sixty one, so I probably
wouldn't do it now. To be honest with you, well, shit,
I might not have a job.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What I'm saying, you got a lot of free time,
perhaps coming up.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Hey, Hey, you know what, Dan, Hey, I love you.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
You know when I put my resume on Lincoln the
other day, they call me back and says, you've never
had a real job.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I said, you don't have a resume.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
That's what I said when I put When I put
my tough on Lincoln the other day, they're like, have
you ever had like a real job?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I said, nope.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Waite. When you're growing up, did you work like at
Dairy Queen or Pizza Hut or any of those places.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
No, I'm in a small town then a couple thousand people.
There's no dairy Queen and none all that stuff in Leeds, Alabama.
I've never you know, That's what's really funny. And I'm
lucky and bliss. I want to make that clear. I've
actually never had a real job. Dan, can you believe that?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Good for you?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Good for you? Lucky? Hey, I'm lucky.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, you're going to go wire to wire without having
a job in your life. I was going to ask you,
I hope. So the five I could make an argument
the five best players in the world are not from
the United States, right, So I could I could give
you Luca, I could give you Yo Kicch, I could
give you Jannis, I could give you Shay Gilgis, and
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I could give you Joe l m beat easily.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
And you know what's funny about that. I've been pushing
the NBA for the last you know, the All Star
Game sucks. I've been pushing for the last probably seven years,
the United States against the world.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Are there enough good players?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Though?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
With the world. Now, I gave you five. I gotta
get about.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
You didn't mention Rudy Gobert. He's not from this country.
Who else I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I see that's the problem. I think we're top heavy.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah, we are top heavy, but you know there's some
other players. I mean, I don't have the list in
front of me, but you know, like I say, Pastoral, Yes, Pastoral,
Lori Markinen, Lauri Marknen.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
We up to step up to I mean, think about it, Dan,
we got seven rounds. You know what. I think the
NBA is afraid of that the United States would lose.
I know I do. It's like, yo, man, the All
Star Game sucks.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So I could get like Franz Wagner.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Oh yeah, both for the Wagner brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, sure, they're All Stars now, damn.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Jo Come on, man, we got to know and I
think I think, I think Adam. You know, I love Adam.
I love him a lot. He's a great dude, Adam. So,
but I think they afraid that the United States would lose.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
This goes back to you guys in the Dream Team,
because if I go back that this is thirty two
years ago for the Dream Team and the impact that
it had. And I remember David Stern saying that to
me that this will this is about globalization. This is
our best players. The world will be able to play
against our best players and then it will force them
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to go back to improve. And it turned out to
be true.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Well, that's's why I think David Stern is the greatest
commissioner ever.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
He made the NBA what it is today. It's a
global game.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
You know, when we go overseas and play, there's fifty
thousand people in these arenas. That's the genius of David Stearns.
He made to you know, when I talked, you know,
it's so crazy. You know, one of my favorite people
all time is Dirt Novitzky, and we had him on
the show a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He was great.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
He was great. He's just a great person though.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
And he was telling this story that the reason he
wears forty one is because of me, because you know,
on the Dream Team, I had number fourteen and Robert
Pack wouldn't give him fourteen, so he wore forty one.
And he told me, and I knew the story, and Dirk,
like I said, Dirk Man, it was just a good dude.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And you tried to get him to Auburn, didn't you.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I did. I tried to. Well, you know, it's so funny.
We were playing like Nike had always taken us to
different countries every year, and Dirk's got.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Like thirty one at halftime against us, like we NBA players,
we're all not prime.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He got.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I said, Yo, man, who's this damn skinny as white dude?
Speaker 7 (22:07):
He got like thirty thirty one at halftime, and Scotty
Pippen like I got him in the second half.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I got him, and Dirk Fin's was like fifty.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
And I was like, yo, man, who the hell aut you?
And he just just like I'm dirting the biscuit blah
blah blah he said. I said, yo, man, how much
money you want to come to Alburt. He's like no,
He's like, I got to go in the army. I said,
oh man, you should be tall, and it's not going
in the army. And I got I got all this
contact and everything, and Ikid called me like a couple
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months later and like he got drafted, and I was like,
oh man, that I would have loved him at Auburn,
but I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
See you work nil before nil.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Hey, brother, I just want I just I just want
all to be good. You imagine I didn't even mind
Dirk breaking all my records. He would have been great
at Auburn. Yeah, you know, we know what's crazy. And
I hate to say this about the guy because he
was a really good dude. But he passed away. Robert
tractor trailer. Yeah, people don't even realize is that the
Maths didn't even draft Dirk. And if you look at it,
(23:11):
and that's probably gonna go down. Like I said, Robert
was a great kid and a good player. But if
you look at it from a serious standpoint, that's probably
going to go down as one of the worst trades ever.
You know, that's gonna go down as one of the
worst trade evers. H But Robert was a good dude.
I hate talk about he passed away a few years ago.
Good dude, good player. But trading Robert tractor trailer for
(23:32):
dirt nubisky is gonna go down. That's got to be
one of the worst trades in the history of civilization.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well, you also had the one the Celtics did with
was that Joe Barry Carroll and they ended up getting
Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale for Joe Barry Carroll.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yeah that's a bad one too. That's a real bad one.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Also, the Sixers, they're what they got for you when
they traded you to Phoenix. That wasn't very good.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
They got four good players.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Mm. Nice, you're being You're being friendly, complimentary.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Damn, they got four players. Whatever you want, Dawn.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
He may need a few more good ones though.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, uh so what do you do today on an
off day in Minnesota?
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yeah, Dan, I need to talk to you about your show.
You got to start doing your show later. I'm not
used to getting up early, I would, Dan, I want
to tell you that before. We're like, damn, Dan, I'm
only up this early, right so this say, I'm going
right back to bed. Okay, but no, So I got
to do your show. I gotta do two podcasts. I
(24:38):
got one of my friends from Philly is a guy
named Mike Missanelli. I'm gonna do his podcast. And I
got a girl from Phoenix. Her name is Cameron. I'm
doing a podcast with her. And then, uh, I got
two friends I got to get together with today, Jesse
Ventura and I got.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Another friend who lives in named Ezra too. Wolo.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I hope I pronounce his name. Ezra is a really
good friend of mine. I forget I keep pronounced their
name name good to a relo.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think his name is he's a really good friend,
but you can't pronounce his name.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah, I don't know, I call it you know, you
know I think that he's some.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
More like defense Eze is easy.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Who in the hell is calling my room? Now? No?
See this is this is somebody. I don't know this.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You're under an aliens alias. Okay, Well, like if my
phone never rings in the room, no.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Shaq, no, no, Shaq would call me? First of all,
I have to I have to tell Shack all the time.
The dudes don't face time each other. He always face
times me. I'm like, dude, we're men. Men don't FaceTime
each other. That's stuff women do. Men don't FaceTime each of.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You know who does that all the time is Dan Levittard. Oh.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
I love Dan. You know you know I love Daing.
His mom is the sweetest lady in the world. His
dad or fat ass dad. Yeah, I want every time
I see him, I want to punch him in the face.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
I do. But his mom. His mom is a saint.
Miss Lord is a saint.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
But his fat ass daddy he takes shots to me
all the time.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I just want to punch him in the face. I
really want to punch him in the face.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Wait, you want to punch him in the face? Or
skip Bayless if you had to choose.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Oh, man, that's ass to like me to choose between
oatmeal Reason and white chocolate macadamiaough cookies. Both are my
two favorite cookies in the world. White Chokla macadamia or oatmeal.
Damn it probably be skipped Bayless. Okay, I'm gonna go
with the white chocolate macadamia That's the best cookie ever
(26:55):
created of it.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Reason, have somebody thank you forgetting them? Thank you forgetting them?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
No, Dan, you know I got man.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
I'm telling you, Man, you know I got love love
for you, and thank you. Thank you for having me
ted them nerves you worked with?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Charles says Hello, Yeah, yeah, wait.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Hey, who else you got on the show today?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Just really you?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Who else you got on the show today? Just you?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's okay, that's how good you are stand alone. I
don't want anybody to go I don't know if it
was Charles who said it, or you know, if it
was Steve Smith who said it. I don't know if
it was Chris Webber or no. Just you, Hey, Dan,
h we got the four guys you were traded for.
Will join us next hour.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Hey Dan, if you want me to buy your drinks
and take you to dinner, you better get to me
soon while I still got a job. But after that,
I'm not buying anything, any drinks or dinner once I
get fired.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Fair enough, fair enough, Thank you, Chuck.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Of course, brother be saved.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's Charles Barkley. We'll take a break.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick
Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I saw this story yesterday. Five takeaways from the NCAA
deciding that colleges can finally pay athletes. USA Today went
through the five and then I go, okay, I'm still
trying to figure it out. An agreement between the NCAA
and all five of the Power Conferences settling three federal
antitrust cases paved the way for athletes to be compensated
(28:32):
for their contributions instead of being treated as amateurs being
paid for their athletic work through scholarships and for their education.
So I'm reading through it and I immediately thought of
Pat Forty from Yahoo Sports. I'm gonna put it on him. Pat,
explain this to me as a football fan. What's it mean?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
It is a new.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Day in college athletics, Dan, but you know, this is
kind of another step along the way to a bunch
of new days. But what it basically means is that
schools can actually themselves pay athletes. That's the news dynamic here,
as opposed to trying to farm it out to a collective,
or pretending you're not involved in who's going to get
(29:16):
paid what, or just flat out boosters paying athletes under
the table. So we have an institutionalized form of compensation
for athletes.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
It's a ton of money.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
The settlement is in the billions and will be tens
of billions going forward for the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, a few questions come to mind. Is there still
going to be nil There.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Will still be anil and some of this may actually
be considered nil money, but there will be most likely
be name, image and likeness opportunities for athletes above and
beyond whatever their quote unquote salary would be, which would
ostensibly be anil salary, there will be more available to them.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, are they university employees.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Not at this point, And that's kind of been one
of the needles the NCAA and college Athletics has been
trying to thread here of we don't want an employee
employer relationship. Let's see if we can find a way
to pay you guys without making it specifically that kind
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Compensation for what your sport, the revenue that your sport.
How do I divvy up the starting quarterback or the
star of the lacrosse team that won a national title.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
To be determined, and that will probably get dribbled down
to be a institutional decision of how the money gets distributed.
The question there becomes, Okay, what's the title nine impact?
If you're going to pay the football team x, do
you also have to pay the women's basketball team this amount?
Or you know, a star women's volleyball player. So all
(30:58):
of those details of and hashed out at all, but
it's probably going to be up to eat each institution.
Do you want to pay up to twenty two million
a year in salary basically to players, or do you
want to pay less than that? And then who gets it? Oh,
so the university.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
It's case by case of do you want to spend
all the money each year on your athletes?
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah, that's at least The theory right now is that
this will be school by school decision, and some schools
you going to look your your Ohio State's, your Michigan's,
your Alabama's, etc. Will be able to eat Texas easily
be able to spend the full twenty two million. And
then some you know, via outside anil if they want,
other schools, the Mississippi States, the Iowa States, the Purdues
(31:43):
may say, ah, we're not going to go that far.
And then the big question is really how far down
the scale do you go for the schools outside of.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
The power file.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Does this make it more likely or less likely that
college football is going to maybe have forty or fifty
teams that each year compete for a national title.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
I think it's another step in that direction. You know
that that this is a further economic thinning of the herd.
If you will, and you know who can afford this
and who can't afford it? You know there's only so
many players to go around. I mean, there's more players
than there is spots. So you should still theoretically be
able to have you know, a a Cincinnati or or
(32:25):
somebody from outside of the Power five that can get players.
But yeah, if you're going to the the best players
are going to be the highest paid players, and they're
going to go to the schools with the most money.
So this is going to continue probably the trend that
we've seen of consolidating the sport into US fewer number
of contenders.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Athletes still get scholarships through this.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, athletes will still get scholarships. There's actually part of
this will probably be that there will be more scholarships,
more athletes on scholarship, but there will be roster limits.
Now everybody on the roster if you have if you
cap a football roster at ninety, everybody can get a scholarship.
Where as opposed it used to be eighty five, Baseball
scholarships would have been in short, short supply will go up,
(33:10):
et cetera. That'll probably be a school by school thing
too of how many scholarships you want to fund, But
you can now fund basically everybody who's on your roster.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Why would the NCAA settle because they were.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Going to lose for the ninety seventh time in court.
You know, their record is the Washington Generals basically in court,
and so they were looking at the possibility of another
loss here and up to twenty billion dollars if you
believe the lawyers in potential damages, then.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
How do you see this playing out with Alabama, Georgia, Michigan,
Ohio State? Like are they going to be separating even
further from teams that are in their own conference?
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Probably? You know, I think so, we'll see. You know
that this will be an interesting kind of barrier. I
guess for schools to say, like, hey, Mississippi.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
State, we can we do this?
Speaker 8 (34:05):
Can we can we spend what Alabama spends and try
to get players? You know, they're certainly have people who
are willing to spend money, but are you willing to
spend the same amount or is this a further area
where they pull away? And then ultimately the decision becomes
is this just become a big ten SEC enterprise or
(34:25):
even within those conferences?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (34:27):
You know, there's certain teams that don't want to keep
up or can't keep up, so This is a real
challenge for the ACC, for the Big Twelve, for the
what's left of the Pac twelve, and then within those
power conferences, you know, does it become survival of the fittest?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I'm wondering about college basketball, maybe there's a chance
players stay in college an extra year depending on the compensation.
Do you see that as a possibility here?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Sure, well, I think we've already seen that.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
You know, we've seen some players, you know, especially I
can think of a North Carolina Kansas who have stayed
in school longer than you might have expected because there's
money to be had there in their draft status isn't
as secure. And I think this will continue that probably
on the football side as well. You look at Michigan's
roster last year. You had a number of guys who
(35:14):
could have gone to the NFL, but they stuck around
because they were getting compensated. And I think this will
probably only reinforce that.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You go back to when Johnny Manzel was on the
cover of Time magazine that was eleven years ago and
the title was time to Pay college Athletes.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
Yeah, no, I mean, look, this has been in the
works for a while, right. We have seen step by step,
the NCAA's obstructionist viewpoint kind of just be whittled away
and eroded, and eventually it became indefensible and then they
started losing in court and everything is really snowballed in
the last five years. And yeah, the Johnny Manziel, oh gosh,
(35:51):
I had to get paid under the table days are
long gone.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Good to talk to you, Pat, have a good weekend.
Thanks for joining us. Thank you Dan, Pat forty Yeah,
who's sports College football senior writer.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, there he is Adam Sandler joining us on the program. Sandmanny,
how are you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I buddy, do you want shades on? Like this or
like this?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think shades? Let's I mean, let's be a movie
star here, let's go. Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I feel I'm a European. I feel like I feel
like it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I missed you. I'm glad to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm in my trailer. I'm shooting a movie. It's all
going good. I'm in Italy, Italy.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah, okay, I brought I guess who I brought.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I brought lockroom.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Look uh, look at my favorite dog.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
There, miss your mess, your Danny.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Who are you with in Italy?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Family? My family brought the family. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
But I wake up in the morning and rewatch the
basketball games at Anthony Edwards had a of a series,
didn't he?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Last night was good?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And you're the one that told me that he's not
only a great basketball player, but when you put him
in the movie Hustle, that he could act. But how
did you realize Anthony Edwards could kind of hold his
own as an actor.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You know, I'm sorry it went out for a second,
but you were talking to that. I told you how
great he is. Yes, he was just such a funny sweetheart.
The only reason I'll take him off the chase I
look crazy. But the only reason we know of him
is Wancho played on the same team with him, and
when he read the script we were casting, a party goes,
(01:37):
you should use my friend Anthony. He's my teammate. He's great,
he would kill this, and so read with Jeremiah the director,
and Jeremiah's like, oh my god, he's like Paul Newman
or something. He just was like all charisma, came in
(01:58):
hang on one second day. Yeah he Oh, he definitely
had like made everybody by the way, every pro guy
when we were shooting the movie loved him. He just
got something carefree, cool thing about him, and he wants
to win and he and he's he's a badass.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Uh is this movie top secret or something?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You're there? Yeah, you got me, Sorry, Yes, I got you.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Who else is starring in this movie?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
The one I'm doing right now in Italy?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Uh, Clone Laura dernh Uh, it's it's no Bomback, No
bomback movie.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh so you guys were shooting in London now you're
in Italy exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, same movie, same movie. It's still going, man,
okay going, but it's going great. It's going great. We've
been having fun and we've been talking a lot of basketball,
because man, I'll.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Tell you, Europe's starting to know that basketball. Whenever I
go to.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Go out in Italy or in England, they all talk
to me about the Knicks, and they talk to me
about six ers and it was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
They know their stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And every everybody's starting to talk about Anthony Edwards being
a superstar.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I know he's big in America now right, everyone him?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah? Uh so how do you have time to work
on Happy Gilmore too? The script?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's not easy, man. We're going to get to it
in a in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I come home in a couple of weeks in the
Hurl that he flies out, and I and and and
then we get going on that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Can you get me? Can you give me a plot,
like a like a working plot here that you have no.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean I will right when I right when we
zero in.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Now we got we have some million things like I
told you, but I I just got to kind of
make it flow a little more. But I think it
might have to do with something with me being a
little older now and and and still trying to compete.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
With the youngsters.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh, so you're going to be I've been great to
get So you're gonna be playing golf in the movie?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I think so. I think so right right now, I
am yeah, it makes sense to me. But uh, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Hurley he was at the UH He went down to
the tournament this weekend and hung out with some of
the guys. He hung out with Daily a little bit,
and and Daily was selling up some great stories. It was,
we're ready, baby, we're excited.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is John Daily going to be in the movie?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I would like to think so is. But I love him.
I love him, I always did love him.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is Tiger going to be in the movie?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Ah, huh, I'll see what it is. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Is Tiger gonna be?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I forgot? I would love it. We'll see.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm gonna write, I'm gonna write all my dreams and
then you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But we're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'll let you. I'll let you go. I'll let you go. Yeah,
you're you're freezing up.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Uh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You love you too, all right. That's Adam Sandler joining
us from Italy. Yeah, happy you go more to.
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Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, he's Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer T and T
inside the NBA, joining us on the program. How's morale? Charles?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Well, two things, Dan.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Number one, Mercedes is a great car, Okay, but don't
buy it if you can't afford it. Let's get that
out the way, all right, Only get a merced. Mercedes
is an amazing car. I've had a few in my life.
Don't buy it unless you can afford it. Stop trying
to impress other people. Morale sucks, plain and simple. You know,
(06:36):
I just feel so bad for the people I work with. Dan,
you know, you know these people have families, and I
just really.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Feel bad for them right now.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
You know, these people I work with, they screwed this
thing up clearly, and we don't have zero I do.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
What's gonna happen? I don't feel good. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Especially when they came out yesterday and said we bought
college football, I was like, well, damn, they could have
used that money they buy the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But it says that TNT Sports added college football playoff
games and a five year deal they're licensing deal with ESPN.
Maybe that's why they're buying this because they don't, you know,
the money they were going to use on the NBA,
they got to do something with.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Yeah, that's what That's the first thing came to my mind.
We've never had college football, that never been involved with
college football, and I'm like, wait a minute, shouldn't we
be spending every dime we got to keep the NBA?
So morale sucks.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
To be honest with you, Dan, I was wondering about this.
I don't know if you guys have talked about this,
but you and Shaq and Kenny and Ernie, how about
just form a production company and continue to shoot, continue
to do the inside the NBA, hire the personnel, keep
the personnel there, continue to do it in Atlanta, and
then you're able to sell that to NBC, say or
(08:00):
Amazon and say here, you already got the best studio
show ready to go. Keep everybody in place. But you
guys own your own production company.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
Well, I've talked to the guys about everybody sign up
with my production company because I have my own production
company and I want to I would love to do
that if we lose it, but I have definitely had
Actually somebody suggested that.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
To me, to be honest with you on the internet.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
So why don't youalk Barkers, sign these three guys, four
guys total, this his production company and sell it. I'm like,
that's a great idea. Yeah, But like I said, you know,
we're just sitting back waiting on these people to figure
out what they're gonna do. You know, you know my
two favorite wines are Ingle Nook and Opus. And these
(08:49):
clowns I work for they've turned us into Ripple and
booms for them in Thunderberg, Like, we got the best
studio show we want, we just and it's so funny.
We just want the best studio show. But these foods
turn us from Inglenook and Oprah's Enter down Boonee Farm
and Ripple.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're actually angry, I am, you know.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Dan, it's so interesting. I've been spending a lot of
time with the crew lately. I've actually they've been with
these guys who I spent time with. Their they bring
their newborns in, they bring their kids in. They'd come
in like when they were in high school and now
they're graduating for college. I mean, that's how long you know,
(09:31):
Ernie's been there thirty two years, Kenny's been there twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I've been there twenty four. But think about that.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Some of these people I work with, they bought their
new boys there and they say, hello, old of us.
They bought them in in high school when they graduated,
and now they've already graduated from college. So yeah, I'm
angry people who are like, you know, they're part of
my family, to be honest with you. So and I
feel bad for those guys.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yea, but how did you guys screw it up? How
did TNT mess this up?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Well?
Speaker 7 (09:59):
I think the first thing is, you know, they came
out and said we didn't need the NBA. So I
think that probably pissed Adam off. I don't know that,
but I'm saying, like, you don't because you know, when
we merge, that's the first thing. Our boss said, we
don't need the NBA. But he don't need it. But
the rest of the people meet Kenny, Shack and Ernie
and the people who worked there, we need it.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
So it just sucks right now.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
And you know the thing that's interesting me Kenny Ernie
talk about in Shack all the time, like people walk
up to me.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I'm not even joking. Twenty times a day.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I'm like, dude, thank you for the kind words, but
I have a zero idea what's going to happen. Yeah,
you know, it's funny, like you can't go anywhere. And
then what's really frustrating I'm getting we all are getting
sent like five seven articles a day about we've already
lost it or we own life support. TNT's trying a
(10:57):
fourth quarter comeback, and I don't know Bill Simmons, who
you know a big Bill Simmons fan. He's sending me,
he's sending they're sending us articles like it's already they've
already lost it, it's made it, it's over with.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I would listen to Mad Dog.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Russo the other day he's like, oh, the deal's over with,
it's already going to NBC.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
So I don't know what to believe. So it sucks
for the people, for all of us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Talking to Charles Barkley, the Hall of Famer TNT's inside
the NBA. Let me start with last night Kyrie Irving.
You know, he's had a quietly great year, like quite
off the court, played well on the court, and it's
almost like this resurgence maybe with Kyrie that now we
kind of rediscover his basketball talents there. What do you
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what do you see when you see Kyrie now?
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Well, I think it's great that people seeing what a
great player he is instead of all the stuff that
was going on when he was in Brooklyn and things
like that, because he's an unbelievable player.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
You know, you know, Dan, I'm really glad.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
I went back and looked at a bunch of tape
on my two off days and said, you know, because
I was caught up in the excitement, I said, man
in Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota. But then when I went back
and looked at tape for two days, I was like, damn,
the Man's gonna win this series. And I still think
they're gonna win this series. They got a lot of
severe matchup. The big guy was scary about that game
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last night is they didn't make any shots.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I think they were six or like thirty from three.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
They're gonna get wide open threes because my biggest considered
a Minnesota. They got two issues that I don't like.
Number One, I don't think they can guard a good
three point shooting team because they played those two big guys.
And secondly, Carl Anton Town, who was a very good player.
I don't think he ever used his size to his advantage.
I think he shoots. I think he waited always shoot
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two many threes because he's the only player in the
NBA gonna have a size advantage every night. Every night
he plays. Is he playing that for a position? He's
gonna have a size advantage every single night. But I
saw him post up more against Denver and against the Sons,
and I've ever seen him in his career, and he
was very effective. But last night he went back to
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the guy that drives me crazy. He shot nine threes
and I'm like, damn, dude, you're seven feet tall.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
The guy you're playing against his six seven. Every time
you shoot the three.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
He's like, thank god, I ain't got I ain't got
to wrestle with this guy in the post.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
So that's why I like the MAVs.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
And but I tell you what, you know, the Celtics man,
they really miss Porzos, Gonzinger's, Gauzinga's, whatever his name is,
because they really miss him because he's the only guy
who posts up and he's the only one who shrinks
the floor for Jalen and Jason because you have to
guard him. The whole time. So that's going to be
a really good series. Rick Carlile and the patients have
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done a hell of a job. And they gave a
game away. Man, I was so pissed watching that game
the other night. Out gave that game away.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, you know, back to Dallas. I was surprised that
they dominated in the paint. Dallas dominated Minnesota in the paint.
They outscored them sixty two to thirty eight in the paint.
So you got those big guys, but they don't play big.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It doesn't matter how big you're off. You don't play big.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
And the way they play defense, they play that drop
where the guy just bags up.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
You know what it's like.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
It's like when I'm betting on football and your team
gets the lead and they play that damn prevent defense
and the other team gets a back door cover. That
pisses that day, and that pisses me off every time
I'm watching football. I'm like, good, we got the lead.
We can't lose the game. All we got to do
is stop him one more time. And they play that
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prevent defense. I call it prevent from winning. And when
the guy drops, when the guy drops, he's useless. He
does nothing. He don't stop either play. He doesn't stop
the lob Totop, Luca or Kyrie from scoring. Now, the
problem that Wolve's gotten now is they're probably gonna double
that going forward because you know, in every game you
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make adjustments. Now, what that's gonna do is open up
Dallas three point shooting. They didn't make any in Game one,
but they gonna get the same shots they got in
Game two they got in Game one.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Just saw this. The Cavaliers have fired their head coach, JB.
Bicker Steph. I guess far.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
They had a nice season, you know what.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I'm so disgusted with these punk ass NBA players today.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
The same thing happening to Darvinham and Frank Vogel.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You know, it's always somebody else's faults. Bernie, his dad,
Bernie is a great guy. But he didn't deserve to
get fired. You know, they wait, his second best player
was out. You know, so, man, this is the NBA today.
The players take no responsibility, zero responsibility. But that's the
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third fire. And like Frank Vogel, Darwin Ham and now Bickerstell.
But you know, you know when I end up. When
I interviewed for a couple of jobs, uh, for a
general manager, I wanted complete control.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, when did you when's
the last time you interviewed for front.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I've interviewed for three front office jobs in the last
not it's been probably about five to seven years. But
I want a complete control because I know because as
a general manager or president of basketball operations, you get
to fire like four guys before people realize you're the problem.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I do, I do?
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I think, I think. I think being the president or
the gym is the best job because you're the one
who picking the players and you're the one who making trades.
But I think you get to scapegoat at least three,
more likely four coaches because people never say, say, who'll
put this crappy ass together? It's easier to fire the
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coach and you get to hide out behind closed doors.
So that's when I like when I in the interview
for those jobs, I'm like, yeah, this is a job
I want because I got great job security before people realize, like, wait,
you're the head coach. You get away with murder. You
get to make all these bad trades and bad decisions.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
But if you.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Fire the coach, the kind of shot clock like starts
on you again. So that's the best job in sports,
being a gym in the NBA or president of basketball operations.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
What were the teams that you interviewed with.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I'd rather not say that because I don't want people
to know I was talking about coaches behind their back.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
To be honest with.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You, okay, what about if somebody said, right now to you, do.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You it's probably too It's probably too late for me now.
It's probably too late because I want to do that
in my fifties.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
I'm six. I just turned sixty one, so I probably
wouldn't do it now. To be honest with you, well, shit,
I might not have a job.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What I'm saying, you got a lot of free time,
perhaps coming up.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Hey, Hey, you know what, Dan, Hey, I love you.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
You know when I put my resume on Lincoln the
other day, they call me back and says, you've never
had a real job.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I said, you don't have a resume.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
That's what I said when I put When I put
my tough on Lincoln the other day, they're like, have
you ever had like a real job?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I said, nope.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Waite. When you're growing up, did you work like at
Dairy Queen or Pizza Hut or any of those places.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
No, I'm in a small town then a couple thousand people.
There's no dairy Queen and none all that stuff in Leeds, Alabama.
I've never you know, That's what's really funny. And I'm
lucky and bliss. I want to make that clear. I've
actually never had a real job. Dan, can you believe that?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Good for you?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Good for you? Lucky? Hey, I'm lucky.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, you're going to go wire to wire without having
a job in your life. I was going to ask you,
I hope. So the five I could make an argument
the five best players in the world are not from
the United States, right, So I could I could give
you Luca, I could give you Yo Kicch, I could
give you Jannis, I could give you Shay Gilgis, and
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I could give you Joe l m beat easily.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
And you know what's funny about that. I've been pushing
the NBA for the last you know, the All Star
Game sucks. I've been pushing for the last probably seven years,
the United States against the world.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Are there enough good players?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Though?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
With the world. Now, I gave you five. I gotta
get about.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
You didn't mention Rudy Gobert. He's not from this country.
Who else I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I see that's the problem. I think we're top heavy.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah, we are top heavy, but you know there's some
other players. I mean, I don't have the list in
front of me, but you know, like I say, Pastoral, Yes, Pastoral,
Lori Markinen, Lauri Marknen.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
We up to step up to I mean, think about it, Dan,
we got seven rounds. You know what. I think the
NBA is afraid of that the United States would lose.
I know I do. It's like, yo, man, the All
Star Game sucks.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So I could get like Franz Wagner.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Oh yeah, both for the Wagner brothers.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, sure, they're All Stars now, damn.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Jo Come on, man, we got to know and I
think I think, I think Adam. You know, I love Adam.
I love him a lot. He's a great dude, Adam. So,
but I think they afraid that the United States would lose.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
This goes back to you guys in the Dream Team,
because if I go back that this is thirty two
years ago for the Dream Team and the impact that
it had. And I remember David Stern saying that to
me that this will this is about globalization. This is
our best players. The world will be able to play
against our best players and then it will force them
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to go back to improve. And it turned out to
be true.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Well, that's's why I think David Stern is the greatest
commissioner ever.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
He made the NBA what it is today. It's a
global game.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
You know, when we go overseas and play, there's fifty
thousand people in these arenas. That's the genius of David Stearns.
He made to you know, when I talked, you know,
it's so crazy. You know, one of my favorite people
all time is Dirt Novitzky, and we had him on
the show a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
He was great.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
He was great. He's just a great person though.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
And he was telling this story that the reason he
wears forty one is because of me, because you know,
on the Dream Team, I had number fourteen and Robert
Pack wouldn't give him fourteen, so he wore forty one.
And he told me, and I knew the story, and Dirk,
like I said, Dirk Man, it was just a good dude.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And you tried to get him to Auburn, didn't you.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I did. I tried to. Well, you know, it's so funny.
We were playing like Nike had always taken us to
different countries every year, and Dirk's got.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Like thirty one at halftime against us, like we NBA players,
we're all not prime.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He got.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I said, Yo, man, who's this damn skinny as white dude?
Speaker 7 (22:07):
He got like thirty thirty one at halftime, and Scotty
Pippen like I got him in the second half.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I got him, and Dirk Fin's was like fifty.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
And I was like, yo, man, who the hell aut you?
And he just just like I'm dirting the biscuit blah
blah blah he said. I said, yo, man, how much
money you want to come to Alburt. He's like no,
He's like, I got to go in the army. I said,
oh man, you should be tall, and it's not going
in the army. And I got I got all this
contact and everything, and Ikid called me like a couple
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months later and like he got drafted, and I was like,
oh man, that I would have loved him at Auburn,
but I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
See you work nil before nil.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Hey, brother, I just want I just I just want
all to be good. You imagine I didn't even mind
Dirk breaking all my records. He would have been great
at Auburn. Yeah, you know, we know what's crazy. And
I hate to say this about the guy because he
was a really good dude. But he passed away. Robert
tractor trailer. Yeah, people don't even realize is that the
Maths didn't even draft Dirk. And if you look at it,
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and that's probably gonna go down. Like I said, Robert
was a great kid and a good player. But if
you look at it from a serious standpoint, that's probably
going to go down as one of the worst trades ever.
You know, that's gonna go down as one of the
worst trade evers. H But Robert was a good dude.
I hate talk about he passed away a few years ago.
Good dude, good player. But trading Robert tractor trailer for
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dirt nubisky is gonna go down. That's got to be
one of the worst trades in the history of civilization.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well, you also had the one the Celtics did with
was that Joe Barry Carroll and they ended up getting
Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale for Joe Barry Carroll.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yeah that's a bad one too. That's a real bad one.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Also, the Sixers, they're what they got for you when
they traded you to Phoenix. That wasn't very good.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
They got four good players.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Mm. Nice, you're being You're being friendly, complimentary.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Damn, they got four players. Whatever you want, Dawn.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
He may need a few more good ones though.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, uh so what do you do today on an
off day in Minnesota?
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yeah, Dan, I need to talk to you about your show.
You got to start doing your show later. I'm not
used to getting up early, I would, Dan, I want
to tell you that before. We're like, damn, Dan, I'm
only up this early, right so this say, I'm going
right back to bed. Okay, but no, So I got
to do your show. I gotta do two podcasts. I
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got one of my friends from Philly is a guy
named Mike Missanelli. I'm gonna do his podcast. And I
got a girl from Phoenix. Her name is Cameron. I'm
doing a podcast with her. And then, uh, I got
two friends I got to get together with today, Jesse
Ventura and I got.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Another friend who lives in named Ezra too. Wolo.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I hope I pronounce his name. Ezra is a really
good friend of mine. I forget I keep pronounced their
name name good to a relo.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think his name is he's a really good friend,
but you can't pronounce his name.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah, I don't know, I call it you know, you
know I think that he's some.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
More like defense Eze is easy.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Who in the hell is calling my room? Now? No?
See this is this is somebody. I don't know this.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You're under an aliens alias. Okay, Well, like if my
phone never rings in the room, no.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Shaq, no, no, Shaq would call me? First of all,
I have to I have to tell Shack all the time.
The dudes don't face time each other. He always face
times me. I'm like, dude, we're men. Men don't FaceTime
each other. That's stuff women do. Men don't FaceTime each of.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You know who does that all the time is Dan Levittard. Oh.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
I love Dan. You know you know I love Daing.
His mom is the sweetest lady in the world. His
dad or fat ass dad. Yeah, I want every time
I see him, I want to punch him in the face.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
I do. But his mom. His mom is a saint.
Miss Lord is a saint.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
But his fat ass daddy he takes shots to me
all the time.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I just want to punch him in the face. I
really want to punch him in the face.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Wait, you want to punch him in the face? Or
skip Bayless if you had to choose.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Oh, man, that's ass to like me to choose between
oatmeal Reason and white chocolate macadamiaough cookies. Both are my
two favorite cookies in the world. White Chokla macadamia or oatmeal.
Damn it probably be skipped Bayless. Okay, I'm gonna go
with the white chocolate macadamia That's the best cookie ever
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created of it.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Reason, have somebody thank you forgetting them? Thank you forgetting them?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
No, Dan, you know I got man.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
I'm telling you, Man, you know I got love love
for you, and thank you. Thank you for having me
ted them nerves you worked with?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Charles says Hello, Yeah, yeah, wait.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Hey, who else you got on the show today?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Just really you?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Who else you got on the show today? Just you?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's okay, that's how good you are stand alone. I
don't want anybody to go I don't know if it
was Charles who said it, or you know, if it
was Steve Smith who said it. I don't know if
it was Chris Webber or no. Just you, Hey, Dan,
h we got the four guys you were traded for.
Will join us next hour.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Hey Dan, if you want me to buy your drinks
and take you to dinner, you better get to me
soon while I still got a job. But after that,
I'm not buying anything, any drinks or dinner once I
get fired.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Fair enough, fair enough, Thank you, Chuck.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Of course, brother be saved.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's Charles Barkley. We'll take a break.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick
Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I saw this story yesterday. Five takeaways from the NCAA
deciding that colleges can finally pay athletes. USA Today went
through the five and then I go, okay, I'm still
trying to figure it out. An agreement between the NCAA
and all five of the Power Conferences settling three federal
antitrust cases paved the way for athletes to be compensated
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for their contributions instead of being treated as amateurs being
paid for their athletic work through scholarships and for their education.
So I'm reading through it and I immediately thought of
Pat Forty from Yahoo Sports. I'm gonna put it on him. Pat,
explain this to me as a football fan. What's it mean?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
It is a new.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Day in college athletics, Dan, but you know, this is
kind of another step along the way to a bunch
of new days. But what it basically means is that
schools can actually themselves pay athletes. That's the news dynamic here,
as opposed to trying to farm it out to a collective,
or pretending you're not involved in who's going to get
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paid what, or just flat out boosters paying athletes under
the table. So we have an institutionalized form of compensation
for athletes.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
It's a ton of money.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
The settlement is in the billions and will be tens
of billions going forward for the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, a few questions come to mind. Is there still
going to be nil There.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Will still be anil and some of this may actually
be considered nil money, but there will be most likely
be name, image and likeness opportunities for athletes above and
beyond whatever their quote unquote salary would be, which would
ostensibly be anil salary, there will be more available to them.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, are they university employees.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Not at this point, And that's kind of been one
of the needles the NCAA and college Athletics has been
trying to thread here of we don't want an employee
employer relationship. Let's see if we can find a way
to pay you guys without making it specifically that kind
of a deal.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Compensation for what your sport, the revenue that your sport.
How do I divvy up the starting quarterback or the
star of the lacrosse team that won a national title.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
To be determined, and that will probably get dribbled down
to be a institutional decision of how the money gets distributed.
The question there becomes, Okay, what's the title nine impact?
If you're going to pay the football team x, do
you also have to pay the women's basketball team this amount?
Or you know, a star women's volleyball player. So all
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of those details of and hashed out at all, but
it's probably going to be up to eat each institution.
Do you want to pay up to twenty two million
a year in salary basically to players, or do you
want to pay less than that? And then who gets it? Oh,
so the university.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
It's case by case of do you want to spend
all the money each year on your athletes?
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Yeah, that's at least The theory right now is that
this will be school by school decision, and some schools
you going to look your your Ohio State's, your Michigan's,
your Alabama's, etc. Will be able to eat Texas easily
be able to spend the full twenty two million. And
then some you know, via outside anil if they want,
other schools, the Mississippi States, the Iowa States, the Purdues
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may say, ah, we're not going to go that far.
And then the big question is really how far down
the scale do you go for the schools outside of.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
The power file.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Does this make it more likely or less likely that
college football is going to maybe have forty or fifty
teams that each year compete for a national title.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
I think it's another step in that direction. You know
that that this is a further economic thinning of the herd.
If you will, and you know who can afford this
and who can't afford it? You know there's only so
many players to go around. I mean, there's more players
than there is spots. So you should still theoretically be
able to have you know, a a Cincinnati or or
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somebody from outside of the Power five that can get players.
But yeah, if you're going to the the best players
are going to be the highest paid players, and they're
going to go to the schools with the most money.
So this is going to continue probably the trend that
we've seen of consolidating the sport into US fewer number
of contenders.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Athletes still get scholarships through this.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
Yeah, athletes will still get scholarships. There's actually part of
this will probably be that there will be more scholarships,
more athletes on scholarship, but there will be roster limits.
Now everybody on the roster if you have if you
cap a football roster at ninety, everybody can get a scholarship.
Where as opposed it used to be eighty five, Baseball
scholarships would have been in short, short supply will go up,
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et cetera. That'll probably be a school by school thing
too of how many scholarships you want to fund, But
you can now fund basically everybody who's on your roster.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Why would the NCAA settle because they were.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Going to lose for the ninety seventh time in court.
You know, their record is the Washington Generals basically in court,
and so they were looking at the possibility of another
loss here and up to twenty billion dollars if you
believe the lawyers in potential damages, then.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
How do you see this playing out with Alabama, Georgia, Michigan,
Ohio State? Like are they going to be separating even
further from teams that are in their own conference?
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Probably? You know, I think so, we'll see. You know
that this will be an interesting kind of barrier. I
guess for schools to say, like, hey, Mississippi.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
State, we can we do this?
Speaker 8 (34:05):
Can we can we spend what Alabama spends and try
to get players? You know, they're certainly have people who
are willing to spend money, but are you willing to
spend the same amount or is this a further area
where they pull away? And then ultimately the decision becomes
is this just become a big ten SEC enterprise or
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even within those conferences?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (34:27):
You know, there's certain teams that don't want to keep
up or can't keep up, so This is a real
challenge for the ACC, for the Big Twelve, for the
what's left of the Pac twelve, and then within those
power conferences, you know, does it become survival of the fittest?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I'm wondering about college basketball, maybe there's a chance
players stay in college an extra year depending on the compensation.
Do you see that as a possibility here?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Sure, well, I think we've already seen that.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
You know, we've seen some players, you know, especially I
can think of a North Carolina Kansas who have stayed
in school longer than you might have expected because there's
money to be had there in their draft status isn't
as secure. And I think this will continue that probably
on the football side as well. You look at Michigan's
roster last year. You had a number of guys who
(35:14):
could have gone to the NFL, but they stuck around
because they were getting compensated. And I think this will
probably only reinforce that.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You go back to when Johnny Manzel was on the
cover of Time magazine that was eleven years ago and
the title was time to Pay college Athletes.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
Yeah, no, I mean, look, this has been in the
works for a while, right. We have seen step by step,
the NCAA's obstructionist viewpoint kind of just be whittled away
and eroded, and eventually it became indefensible and then they
started losing in court and everything is really snowballed in
the last five years. And yeah, the Johnny Manziel, oh gosh,
(35:51):
I had to get paid under the table days are
long gone.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Good to talk to you, Pat, have a good weekend.
Thanks for joining us. Thank you Dan, Pat forty Yeah,
who's sports College football senior writer.
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