May 31, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan Patrick previews the NBA Finals between the Celtics and Mavericks and gives his thoughts on what Boston will need to do to win the title. Dan reacts to the latest headlines around the NFL, including Jaylen Waddle's extension and the Bears being the latest team to host Hard Knocks during training camp. Former NFL GM Mike Tannenbaum joins DP to discuss the expectations for Caleb Williams in his rookie season in Chicago.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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first hour. Congrats to the Dallas Mavericks going to the
NBA Finals as they dust off the Timberwolves, Luca and
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Dan Patrick Show Seaton Poll question for our one as
we close up shop with that, and what are we
going to go with an hour or two?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, we're just putting up there right now.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Player that will decide the finals Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum,
Luka Dancic, Kyrie Irving or other other.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yes, what do you think who is going to who
is going to decide? Yeah, I'll say Luca. I'll say Luca.
Is that in a good way or a bad way? Well,
I'm gonna say Luca. Is it his offense that in
(01:53):
a good way or his defense in a bad way.
I don't think it'll be defense. I think it's it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
If they let him go off like Minnesota did last night,
then he can change the series. But if they have
and they'll have better defenders on him, they'll have more
defenders on him, He'll have different looks pretty much, you know,
from quarter to quarter, certainly game to game. So I
would say, if Boston's able to neutralize him, you know,
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you might have Kyrie go off on a heater, but
you know, Luca is the one that can put up
fifty or sixty. Now, I would say how they play
defense on him will be, you know, will determine if
Boston's going to win the title or not, or Dallas
is going to win or lose.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
So I'd say Luca.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Boston has a lot of weapons and they you know,
it could be you know, Drew Holliday has a good night.
You know, certainly with Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, they have
experience of being here. Al Horford can shoot threes. I mean,
they do have players who have experience, and I think
he got to factor that in because we saw Minnesota
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they didn't have experience and it showed last night because
that's where you need to get out. You need to
get a step on the accelerators when you step on
the floor, and they did not. It's almost like they
were trying to shift gears but there was no clutch.
And Anthony Edwards had a good series, not a great
series as it ends in five. But I think Minnesota
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has a lot to be proud of to get to
this point, just like the Knicks. Now, although the Knicks
were under man they weren't healthy, but Minnesota surprised a
lot of people to do what you did to Denver
in Denver three times. Nobody does that until you guys
came along. You know, we'll slow the he's the next
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Michael Jordan. You know, we'll table that till next season.
Now it's going to be as Luca the best player
in the world. That'll be the conversation today. Nothing has
changed really with Luca except for now he's playing for
a title. As if what he did before there was
no validation of that. Now you're playing for a title,
well you got to be great. It's just like Joker. Yeah,
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people in the media that just thought, well, he's a
stat stuffer, and I go, no, he could if he
wanted to, then he should take twenty five shots a game.
If he really wanted to pat his stats, that's not
who he is. Luca can pad his stats and we
look at all, right, there's a triple double. Great, he
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does that every night. What he's doing now, this is
what he does. It's just people are now watching it.
Now it means more. Now you're gonna go to the
NBA finals. Now, all of a sudden, there's validation, just
like Joker. Once he won the title, then all of
a sudden it validated those MVPs yes, MARV.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Going into next season, does Anthony Edwards get real consideration
for MVP at the beginning of the season because.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Of the game run?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Who would have better odds between these two players, Anthony
Edwards Jalen Brunson. Who is going to be given more
consideration for MVP based off what we saw in the playoffs?
I would think Jalen Brunson MVP. That doesn't mean he's
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a better player than Anthony Edwards are more talented, it's
the value that he showed in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yes, yes, I'm gonna say a man only because his
team will probably have a better record than the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, it does help that Brunson plays in New York
as well, and that ground swell of coverage compliments and
he played well. I mean, he earned that right to
be an MVP candidate, absolutely, and even more so in
the postseason. But I would I'd be curious who has
better odds because Luca, to me, if he wins the
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title is going to be the odds on favor to
be the MVP next season, then you'll still have Joker
in there. If Tatum wins, then maybe Jason Tatum will
have better odds to win the MVP, and I'm looking
you know, there are some odds here, the odds to
win the finals MVP. It's Jason Tatum, then it's Luca,
then it's Jalen Brown. Kyrie Irving is a distant fourth.
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Here the Celtics are favored. Got a wait a week here,
Christops porzingis his availability. I'm expecting him to be playing
in the series in the finals. If you're Dallas, you
probably want to have this series start right now, like
this morning or late last night. Can we start the
NBA Finals. This is just a sampling of Luca in
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the first quarter last night.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Fourteen from Lucas going on here.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Gears on Monday night, oke delay Anderson controlled by them out.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
There goes another heat check from Luca chi Chigne. Another three.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's a fine flower.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He has over fired twenty points.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Reggie and Kevin Harland on the call. Here's Jason Kidd
after the game talking about Luca.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Well, he was definitely Luca magic mode and just thinking
about is he going to play all forty eight? You know,
why not if he's going like that again? I thought
he set the tone and then he just made it
easier for everybody else. And everybody else stepped up.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Jake Kid is monotone. Yeah, if he was going to
play forty eight way he was playing, and he could
have just stayed out there and then that would have
been great.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Boy.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
He was really impressive last night, wasn't he. That's Jay Kid.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But you know, it's fun to watch a surprising watch
from the first quarter when Luke out scores Minnesota twenty
to nineteen. But yeah, Boston will be ready. Boston will
be ready for Kyrie. I hope Boston's ready for Luca
as well, but I know the fans will be ready
for Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So that's what went on last night. Panthers over the Rangers.
They're up three to two and a chance to go
back to the Stanley.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Final.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I was watching, you know, I couldn't watch the basketball
game too long because it was over. It was twenty
nine points at a half time. I go, let's see
how my Panthers are doing. And they ended up beating
the Rangers. What a great series though, it feels like
everything over time one goal. It's been great and the
Bears hard knocks. Congratulations, Paul. The Bears are on hard
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knocks prior to the start of the season, not to
be confused with the Giants part of hard Knocks prior
to the start of the prior to the start of
the season.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Very exciting. Bears are very relevant in the off season.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yes, yeah, I like their chances.
Speaker 10 (08:38):
I do.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I'm on the hype train.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, how many rookie quarterbacks have made the postseason, Let's say,
in the last twenty years, because that's what we're asking
Caleb Williams to do. By the way, Mike Tannenbaum, former
front office executive in the NFL, Neil John is coming
up because the wide receiver market is being reset. It
feels like every week. And I'm curious because Jalen Waddle
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he got money that number one wide receivers get in Miami.
I was surprised, and justin Jefferson, he might be looking
for thirty three thirty four million dollars a year, maybe
thirty five million dollars a year. And you're going to
get to the point where do you pay him with
a rookie quarterback coming in or do you trade him?
(09:25):
And I thought they were going to trade him, And
prior to the draft, I thought that they were going
to go up and maybe go up to number two
and trade with Washington and take Daniels. I thought that
they were going to do that, but now you got
JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold. So trying to get something
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out of your rookie quarterback. But you know, here's another thing.
I think people look at the Bears and they go, well,
the Bears are bad. They had the number one pick. Well, no,
they made a great trade, and then they he got
the number one pick from Carolina, who is really bad.
The Bears weren't bad last year. At seven wins, you
can tackle on a couple more here, maybe squeeze in
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a wild card team. How many rookie quarterbacks have made
the postseason?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
They kind of led their team. Russell Wilson, he won
a playoff game as a rookie. Robert Griffin third got
the Redskins to the playoffs, Andrew Luck he didn't win.
Andy Dalton played a playoff game. This is recent history,
Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, of course, Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But how many of those quarterbacks played on teams that
were good before they got there. Russ goes to a
Seattle team that was good. Ben was on a Pittsburgh
team that was good, Andrew Luck not on a team
that was good.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Yeah, Paul, they weirdly, the Colts weren't that bad. They
lost Peyton Manning and they reverted back to awfulness. But
their roster wasn't bad.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
It was the Curtis Painter year. Ooh, no offense, and
the Cults weren't the bad like a bad roster okay.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Because the Bears, you know, they have a good roster.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's not elite, but you know, I thought that they
made some you know good You bring in Keenan Allen,
I'm assuming he's going to be good. You know that
you have wide receivers there, and I just feel like
you're giving Caleb Williams a head start more so than
you did justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Yes, Mark, Keenan Allen, he's always good, but he's always injured.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The health is the issue that's always where they go. Yes,
it's uh Keenan when healthy Allen? Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Can they have a winning.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Record based on a pretty tough division without having all
the other opponents in front of me on the Bear schedule?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Can you see them going at least nine and eight?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well you're not going to get into the playoffs going
eight and nine. So I see them winning nine games
this year.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Yeah, Paul, I'm in favor of the NFL moving to
eighteen games because it's so awkward to say nineteen. I
know in eight and nine. For that reason alone, I'm in.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Favor that I hate seventeen.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, he's a hell schmelth. I just want yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, we don't care about their health. They don't Oh,
give me an extra paycheck.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
We're gonna be nine to nine this year. Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yes, Ton, one year, you.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Get one more home game and then you get one
less home game.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well no, I think what happens is we're going around
the world. Okay, hey, you don't get that home game.
The NFL gets that home game. We're going to be
in Bartholona, We're going to be in Canada, We're going
to be in Brazil, Dublin, Munich, London.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They're not going to give you an extra home game, No, buddy,
no buddy.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know I saw this. Eminem has a new song.
When's the last time he put out a song? Is
this a record or is it a song? But it
I think he said that he wants to disappear.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
The song's name Houdini is he.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Puts something on social I saw a couple of days
ago about how he's like enough for my next act,
I'm going to make my career disappear or something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I thought he already did.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No, I'm saying that he he doesn't do much. I
mean does he does?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He tour? I see him more at sporting events than
I do on stage.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Has Ton, Can you get rappers block where you just
can't come up with all those lines anymore?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I think?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
I better wrap this up.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, well it'd be called writer's block, but I see
what you're doing with the rapper writers block. Yes, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
The new album is called The Death of Slim Shady. Oh,
and this single is Houdini.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Do we have a little bit of eminem?
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
We'll find it, okay. Yeah. I thought that might be
part of the segment, that we would play the song
and then we'd know.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
We're allowed to.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh were we allowed to?
Speaker 7 (13:47):
It's called m as they say.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Okay, so he's got a new song, get permission from Marshall.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I did hear the song it's it's like almost like
not a remake of one of his more popular songs,
but it sounds like an offshoot of it. A Top
Gun was just like the first Top Gun. This is.
This is like a classic eminem song with new lyrics.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Doctor Dre Yes, Doctor Dre's in it. Okay, well maybe
we could see if we get clearance there, Clarence Yes, Marmon.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Would you see him a concert?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Sure, he doesn't.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
He doesn't do much of anything really, so whenever I
see him, I saw him at Lions games. Like you said,
I see him more sporting events than I see him
do anything else.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Or at his daughter's wedding who just got married recently.
But I feel old. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I sure
i'd go see him.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
This new song, Houdini is a callback to his O
two single Without Me. It almost starts a similar way.
It samples Steve Miller bands Abracadabra bro. No one's doing
that these.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Days, no nobody?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Okay, So cert lean into more classic rock samples in
hip hop.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
We should or people should Yeah no, not really.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh okay, I got the Marshall Tucker Band. Here's Charlie
Daniels that never went down to Georgia featuring feet eminem
Yeah feet.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
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Speaker 6 (15:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I treat you guys so damn well I do. There
are times when I'm embarrassed that I treat you this well.
You can't show your face, No, I can't. My kids
even say you treat the DANTZ better than you treat us,
and I go, yeah, absolutely, we better out long. They
make me money, you guys, don't you take my money?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh buddy? All right, Well, talk some football. Mike Tannenbaum
will join us coming up. John Sally ooh, four time
NBA champ will join us in about an hour from now.
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
Rookie quarterbacks who made the playoffs since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Stroud did that last year, Brock perty in twenty twenty two.
How about Skyler Thompson with my Dolphins in twenty two two,
Mac Jones did it, Lamar Jackson, Connor Cook with the Raiders,
Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, RG three, Andrew Luck, TJ. Yates
with the Texans, and some of these they're filling in
for somebody who was injured, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Ben, Roethlisberger,
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Sean King, Todd Marinovich, Jim Everett, Peter Brock, Bernie Cosar,
Dan Marino. We're asking Caleb Williams to join that group.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I think he can.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Let's bring in Mike Tannenbon, former front office executive for
two NFL teams. You can find him on Get Up
Sports Center, NFL Live throughout this summer. Good to see you,
Mike T. Do you think Caleb Williams leads the Bears
to the playoffs this year?
Speaker 12 (17:43):
I don't dan, but I think he's gonna have a
great career. And I think we're playing such an enormous
amount of pressure on these young quarterbacks. You know, you
look most recently at guys like Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love.
They sat and now there are two of the younger,
bigger stars in our league. Obviously Mahomes is the best player.
And I think going back to like you mentioned Sanchez,
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like Mark was a meaningful part of what we did
at the Jets, but he was not the leader of
the of the band by any stretch. And I think
these guys are going to hit bumps in the road
and that's just part of the development. I look at
Caleb Williams beyond hard knocks stand I just want, like,
really worry it's the old coach Parcels, like, let's not
put him in Canton quite yet.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
If you were front office exec with the Bears, would
you have embraced hard knocks to give your team more,
you know, publicity exposure nationally, or because because you have
a rookie quarterback, you'd be like, nope, not this year.
Speaker 12 (18:41):
Yeah, you know, I lived it and the whole world
got to see what a shitty punt returner I am.
So that will live on forever. But look, the bottom
line is, you're the quarterback of the Chicago Bears. You're
like beyond Barack Obama. You must You're the most important
person from the state of Illinois for the foreseeable future,
and that's going to take some time. Like Dan, you know,
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look at you. You're a Hall of Fame broadcaster. You're
a hell of a lot better today than you were
the four years of your career. Like, there's just you
got to put your time in. And if I was
the Bears, I would have kicked and scream and said, hey,
we don't mind doing hard knocks, but not this year.
Let this kid grow, let them develop, let them, you
know again, make some mistakes without the eyes of the
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whole world seeing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I think they want the publicity there. And if
Mike was talking about being a kick returner, you can
google that Mike Tannenbaum returning punts and you don't have
a good laugh there. When you saw the Jalen Waddle deal,
your reaction was.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Smart, good young player, explosive touchdown score. You know that
market's only going up. I'm hard pressed to understand what
Minnesota's doing.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The day that Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 12 (19:49):
Graduates and goes to the Falcons, I fly to see
Justin Jefferson's agent, and I don't leave the room out
getting a deal done, and that market just continues to explode.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, I was curious Wattle. It felt like got number
one wide receiver money. And at what point does Tyreek
Hill go I need to renegotiate here.
Speaker 12 (20:09):
I actually think that's apples and oranges. I think Tyrek
Hill is going to ask for a new deal.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You know after this year.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
He has no guaranteed money, so I think regardless, like
I think Tyreek Kill's mindset is.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I love Wadel, but he's one A or one B,
whatever it is. I'm the guy here.
Speaker 12 (20:23):
I'm the best receiver in the NFL, and I'm gonna
wun thirty four to thirty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I'm glad that I have Robin. But I'm Batman.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Okay, speaking of Tyreek Hill. We had this discussion earlier today.
Let's say Tyreek Hill and Randy Moss were coming into
the NFL. Now you knew what their talents were, which
one would you take first in today's NFL Randy Moss
or Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 12 (20:47):
I'm always gonna take Moss just because there's things about
his game that are literally indefensible.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 12 (20:52):
I think with Tyrek Hill, who's a Hall of Famer,
I think you could try to jam him at the
line of scrimmage. You can put somebody over the top.
There's way at least slow down speed. But with Randy Moss,
it was kind of like with Gronk for all those years,
stand like red zone, like you know what's coming, and
literally it's indefensible what he could do in terms of
a high point in the ball. Like, So to me,
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like I would take Moss over Hill.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
But I'm watching when they had hard knocks during the
season with the Dolphins and they just had a camera
on Tyreek Hill. You can't cover him, like even trying
to get him off the line of scrimmage. Mike, it's
I just think he can beat you short long. He's
so quick. He's as fast as Randy Moss, or at
least close to it. I'm guessing now he doesn't have
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the height advantage, but he'm not afraid. You know, he's
gonna get it, and he can take it eighty yards
and you know the pass can be four yards and
he takes it eighty. It always felt like Randy, and look,
he was unbelievable, but he was a home run threat.
I need singles in doubles sometimes too, and it feels
like Tyreek Hill gives me both.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Yeah, look, I'd love to have either or both on
the team. But again I go back to Randy. Moss
to me is a little bit more like Gronk, Like,
no matter what we did with Gronk, we couldn't defend
him like just because of the size. And I think
Moss's ability to high point the ball, to me, is
what would separate the two.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
But again, I'm taking nothing away from tyer Kill.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
All right, let me go back to the wide receivers here, Jefferson.
I thought they might entertain trading him because if you're
gonna let Kirk Cousins go, now, I got Sam Darnold
and you're gonna get a rookie quarterback in there. Jordan
Addison is you know, a star in the making as well.
But Justin Jefferson thirty five million dollars a year wide
(22:40):
receivers that where we're starting out.
Speaker 12 (22:43):
Look, I think that's exactly the right, Dan. It's a
really fair point. If we were going to move on
from Cousins, maybe we blow the whole thing up. Take
JJ McCarthy and say, hey, you know, in two to
three years we're gonna be really good and run the
Detroit Lion play. Obviously they did not do that. So again,
like I think they're a little bit half pregnant, which
was if you're going to keep Jefferson, get the deal
done before aj Brown, DeVante Smith, now Jalen Waddell. And
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by the way, the big winner and all this to
me is Jamar Chase ccitting and Cincinnati dam with his
feed up and say hey, I'm gonna have my LSU
teammate do all the heavy lifting and I'm just going
to walk in and tell you know, the Brown family
I need ten percent more than.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You know whatever. You know, Justin Jefferson gets and we're
good to go.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Okay, where do you rank wide receiver on your priority
list as far as who you're paying and how much
you're paying.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
I'm not paying them as much, but for a different reason.
I think the position's super important, but it's also replaceable.
And let me give you a great example. If you
and I were running the Cowboys. First of all, I'm
shocked that that's that signed yet, like they've given him
a blank check, but he's going to be there. I'm
going to pay Micah Parsons before Cede Lamb just because
it's a lot harder to find Micah than it is
(23:52):
Cdee Lamb. Taking nothing away from Cede Lamb. But if
we were running a team, dam we can find a receiver,
and that's why I would consider.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Paying one too.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
And I think a good example of that is like
what Cincinnati's doing. They're gonna let t Higgins graduate. They
drafted Jermaine Burton the third round and hopefully in a
year he's going to replace Higgins. We saw San Francisco
take two receivers, Jacob Cowey in the fourth, they took
Ricky Kersel in the first round. Presumably they'll let you
know either Deebo Samuel or Brandon Ijuko at the end
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of the year.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Talking to Mike tan and baumb ESPN front office insider.
Let me go back to the Cowboys. Are they in
a good situation? If you're the GM of the Cowboys,
how do you feel about this season? With Ceedee, Lamb,
Dak and Micah Parsons all looking for new contracts.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
They're in a catastrophically terrible situation. Here's why.
Speaker 12 (24:40):
Dak Prescott's thirty one years old. He was second in
the league in the MVP, and he has no ability
to be franchised. So Dan, imagine if we were running
the Raiders, there's no price we would pay not to
go get Dak with some other really good pieces there.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
You know.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Now they have brocked hours DeVante Adams, So it's not
what you think he's worth, it's what he could get
in the market. And without them drafting a quarterback this year. Now, look,
maybe Trey Lance develops, but let's face it, that's a
long shot. You've essentially given him a blank check. I mean,
you have to get him signed. He's in the prime
of his career and there's absolutely nothing you can stop
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him from leaving at the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, and it feels like if they don't get I
just don't know why they're not paying him if if
Jerry's saying, well, let me see it one more time,
like give me the reason or logic. If you're the
GM and you go to Jerry, why aren't why don't
we have a deal with Deck? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (25:35):
I think there is an argument out there, and when
you talk to teams there's a little bit of a
sentiment of would you rather have Gardner Minshew at ten
million dollars a year and versus someone like you know,
Daniel Jones or Kirk Cousins between thirty five and forty
million or a year, meaning that being market is one
(25:55):
where it's say, you have so much of your resources
unless they are like a difference. Are are we better
off just going young? Or you know a Marcus Mariota
a Minshew type now to me, daft to me is
an a I know there's some postseason concerns, but he's
played really well and when you talk to people in
that building, his leadership and character is beyond reproach and
(26:17):
he has a personality that could withstand being you know,
basically like one of the highest profile positions in the sport.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, they keep waiting and the price tag keeps going up.
If I said you can have Jordan Love for the
next five years or Trevor Lawrence the next five years.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Oh, that's easy for me. It's Jordan Love. I'll put
it to you this way.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's easy. That's not easy.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's easy. Dan.
Speaker 12 (26:42):
If we were drafting NFL players, I think you and
I would agree we take Patrick Mahomes number one.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I'm taking Jordan Love number two. I've really been thinking about.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
This a lot, like who would you take before Jordan
Love in terms of youth ability? And I think his
future is limitless. And while well, I think Trevor Lawrence
has a ability, you know, at some point you know
this is the old Belichick like you should show greatness.
And I think what we've seen with Trevor Lawrence is
being shown being good B plus. But we've seen Jordan
(27:14):
Love in one year show greatness. He was arguably, over
the last half of the season, arguably the best quarterback
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So if we're having a quarterback draft, you're taking Mahomes
and then you're taking Jordan left one.
Speaker 12 (27:29):
Hundred percent, And I'm not even thinking about it. You
can have anybody else, but you give me Jordan Love.
I'm set for the next decade. High character, great ability,
been fully baked and developed, and I'm not looking back.
And by the way that team is loaded with young
skill players, I'm hard pressed to think that they're not
going to be right back where they were a year ago.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Deep in the NBC playerffs, look at you, Look at you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Mike Greenberg's probably crying right now because you're saying this
on my show and not on Get Up or First
Take with Steven A. ESPN's got to go, Hey, Mike,
t like, easy there, save the hot stuff for our shows.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
We'll get to that once the NBA files are over.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm sure new kickoff rules this year, do you draft differently?
Like what's the strategy from a front office executive with
the new kickoff rules?
Speaker 12 (28:20):
Yeah, it already impacted the draft. You know, talk to
a lot of teams about it. What's really interesting, Dan,
and again none of us know, but based on the
limited information we have from like the XFL and others,
you're looking at a little bit of a different body type.
It's really interesting. So for example, like we talked about
Tyreek Hill, the people that are there gravitate gravitating to
is someone like Cordrell Patterson, someone a little bit bigger, sturdier,
(28:43):
because I think what you're going to be seeing is
someone that has to break a tackle before you.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Get into space.
Speaker 12 (28:48):
And look, that's the speculation, but I'm not saying it's
gonna be him, but someone like a Deebo sand or
someone that's really physical, because this rule is designed to
have physicality in a small space so you don't have
that high speed impact. And I think if we're sitting
here around Halloween and talking about player X leading the
league and kickoff returns, I think it's gonna be somebody
(29:10):
that has the ability to break tackles.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Would you have Tyreek Hill go back if you're the Dolphins.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
If the game was on the line, I want the
ball in his hands one hundred percent of the time.
But I also have to be smart to know that
it's a seventeen game season, and let's face it, if
it's Week four and more on the road against an
NFC team, I'm not doing that. And I think, you know,
we got to remember. I know he's not a quarterback,
but last year, sixty six quarterbacks started a game, and
the health of your frontline players matter.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Great stuff. People in Green Bay love you.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, they'll buy me a beer next time in the town.
So I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Dan, Thank you. Mike.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
That's Mike tannebaumb ESPN front office executive and he speaks
from experience. He was a GM for a couple of
teams there. How about that with Jordan Love?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Okay? And he said, oh, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
When I said if you were taking Trevor Lawrence Jordan
Love and he goes, it's easy, I thought, well, he's
going to say Trevor Lawrence all of a sudden, Jordan Love.
I go ooh, okay, that's a one year performance from
Jordan Love. It's one of those where you go and
this is why I think that Green Bay wanted to
move on from Aaron Rodgers a year earlier. Is eventually
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you know what you have. It's just like when they
moved on from Brett fav they could see what they
had with Aaron Rodgers and then you're like, oh gosh,
you know Kansas City, you know you had, you know
a situation where you go, okay, Alex is going to
take us so far. Look at that guy when Justin
(30:45):
Herbert went to the Chargers and you saw him during
training camp and then you go, oh, my gosh, okay,
that guy's going to be your starter. The players see
it before everybody else does. But Jordan Love is the
second quarterback off the board with everybody in there, Joe Burrow,
mar Jackson. Wow, all right, you're welcome Green Bay. You're
(31:11):
welcome Wisconsin. Let me get a couple of phone calls
in here, Sean and Oregon. Hi, Sean, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
I heard you talking about the Bears earlier and you
said they have seven wins and they're pretty good team.
I mean, I doesn't even go together. I mean, they
not be one of the worst teams. But America doesn't
believe in the Bears, and we're not so sure that
Caleb Williams won't even be a bus with those guys,
and we're just not believers. Brother.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Okay, look, I'm not a Bears fan. I'm just telling
you what I think, and I think that with seven wins.
The reason why I say that they're, you know, a
respectable team with seven wins is normally having amber one pick,
you had two or three wins, so they're already ahead
of the game. They got the number one pick. They
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also got a number one wide receiver in one of
the greatest fleecing that we've seen in NFL history with
a trade and you got Caleb Williams. And no, I
don't know if he's going to be successful, but I am.
I'm assuming he's going to be respectables first year. You
got some talent there. It's great to have an offensive line,
(32:25):
some consistency with the head coach or offensive coordinator, which
hopefully he gets and uh, you know, you could be
an eight or nine win team.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Set the Bears had seven wins last season. Yeah, that
didn't feel like a respectable season. Well for the for
the team with the first pick. Overall, how many seven
win you know teams like that get. You know, I
have them as seven and ten last year, three and fourteen,
The year before six and eleven, eight and eight, eight
(32:58):
and eight, twenty eighteen, they were twelve and four. Man,
does that feel like a lifetime?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
It was a long time? Holy smokes. All right, I'm
just on.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I'm on the Bears bandwagon, and I can say that
I haven't been on the Bears bandwagon since Jim McMahon
was there.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I feel like Kayleb Williams has to start at eight
wins plus.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's a disappointment if he doesn't get to eight wins.
If you're matching what Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Did or CJ. Stroud?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Are the Bears as good as the Texans were going
into last season.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Or like if PFF grated the roster, Yes, we could check.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That, Yeah, because nobody had the Texans doing anything. You
had a rookie coach and a rookie quarterback and you
didn't know anybody on that team.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
The Texans were three thirteen and one when they drafted CJ.
Stroud and then the next year obviously made the playoffs.
The Bears had four more wins.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Let's take a break. More phone calls coming up, be short.
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Yeah?
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I don't know, like which, like what quadrant of Germany
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Dortmun is known for developing stars then they move on
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First soccer now?
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Hey, good morning Dan. Five to eleven triproduces. Hey, First
of all, there will be no ceasing to assist. I'm
going to give you the rights to the T shirt
in exchange for the prototype of my wife's size. Let's
go back to the Super Bowl. I'm a huge Chiefs fan.
We're watching the game. Some clown breaks through, gets some
Homes on the ground. I'm having a pritty like tirade.
(38:06):
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Speaker 14 (38:34):
Hey, guys, I gotta doing today?
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Good?
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Great?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (38:38):
You know a little earlier you're talking about Luca. Is
he the best? Is he not the best? I think
he was the best last year. He just didn't need
the credit because of where the team finished this year,
finishing with fifty wins, doing something that's never been done
in NBA history before thirty four, nine to nine. I
don't think there's a question as to whether he's the
best player in the NBA anymore. I think it's it's
hands down. But on a very serious note, I have
(38:59):
just taken a job teaching journalism in high school, first
time ever teaching the class, and I've got a question,
what would be your biggest piece of advice for a
new teacher in journalism.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Oh, Paulie, you're a teacher.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Yeah, I teach a journalism class. I would say, give
them real life examples of stuff that's going on now,
not stuff that happens sixty years ago. It'll engage them better.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
And also make sure they write every day.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know, musicians talk about whatever their instrument is, you
got to play it every day.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Writers write every day. Got to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Get into the habit sixty seconds where here's the top story.
Give me a sixty second recap or a two minute recap.
That would be just a little bit of advice. But
Paulie does teach students. I advise students with my broadcasting school.
But I always tell them, as a writer, be curious
(39:55):
and don't take you know, the first answer you get
or the first piece of inf Always always be willing
to question something. And when you interview people, short questions,
open ended, get people talking. The more they talk, the
better your column is going to be, your your article
is going to be, or your book is going to be.
(40:16):
You want people to talk. That's my goal when I
have people on, I want them to say things like
I would take Jordan Love as the second best quarterback,
give me the NFL.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Mike t gonna make some headlines with that one, and
he said it was easy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yes, well, but he was saying law with Trevor Lawrence.
And I still think, you know, that's that's a questionable take.
Though I'm waiting for Trevor to be something more. Jordan
Love is surprising us that he's something more. So there's
a difference.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
As opposed to Justin Herbert. I wait for Justin Herbert
to be great. Look at bron Perdy, Well, we had
no expectations for him. Final Hour, John Saling for NBA Titles.
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NBA Finals as they dust off the Timberwolves, Luca and
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we close up shop with that, and what are we
going to go with an hour or two?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, we're just putting up there right now.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Player that will decide the finals Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum,
Luka Dancic, Kyrie Irving or other other.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yes, what do you think who is going to who
is going to decide? Yeah, I'll say Luca. I'll say Luca.
Is that in a good way or a bad way? Well,
I'm gonna say Luca. Is it his offense that in
(01:53):
a good way or his defense in a bad way.
I don't think it'll be defense. I think it's it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
If they let him go off like Minnesota did last night,
then he can change the series. But if they have
and they'll have better defenders on him, they'll have more
defenders on him, He'll have different looks pretty much, you know,
from quarter to quarter, certainly game to game. So I
would say, if Boston's able to neutralize him, you know,
(02:17):
you might have Kyrie go off on a heater, but
you know, Luca is the one that can put up
fifty or sixty. Now, I would say how they play
defense on him will be, you know, will determine if
Boston's going to win the title or not, or Dallas
is going to win or lose.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
So I'd say Luca.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Boston has a lot of weapons and they you know,
it could be you know, Drew Holliday has a good night.
You know, certainly with Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, they have
experience of being here. Al Horford can shoot threes. I mean,
they do have players who have experience, and I think
he got to factor that in because we saw Minnesota
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they didn't have experience and it showed last night because
that's where you need to get out. You need to
get a step on the accelerators when you step on
the floor, and they did not. It's almost like they
were trying to shift gears but there was no clutch.
And Anthony Edwards had a good series, not a great
series as it ends in five. But I think Minnesota
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has a lot to be proud of to get to
this point, just like the Knicks. Now, although the Knicks
were under man they weren't healthy, but Minnesota surprised a
lot of people to do what you did to Denver
in Denver three times. Nobody does that until you guys
came along. You know, we'll slow the he's the next
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Michael Jordan. You know, we'll table that till next season.
Now it's going to be as Luca the best player
in the world. That'll be the conversation today. Nothing has
changed really with Luca except for now he's playing for
a title. As if what he did before there was
no validation of that. Now you're playing for a title,
well you got to be great. It's just like Joker. Yeah,
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people in the media that just thought, well, he's a
stat stuffer, and I go, no, he could if he
wanted to, then he should take twenty five shots a game.
If he really wanted to pat his stats, that's not
who he is. Luca can pad his stats and we
look at all, right, there's a triple double. Great, he
(04:23):
does that every night. What he's doing now, this is
what he does. It's just people are now watching it.
Now it means more. Now you're gonna go to the
NBA finals. Now, all of a sudden, there's validation, just
like Joker. Once he won the title, then all of
a sudden it validated those MVPs yes, MARV.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Going into next season, does Anthony Edwards get real consideration
for MVP at the beginning of the season because.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Of the game run?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Who would have better odds between these two players, Anthony
Edwards Jalen Brunson. Who is going to be given more
consideration for MVP based off what we saw in the playoffs?
I would think Jalen Brunson MVP. That doesn't mean he's
(05:10):
a better player than Anthony Edwards are more talented, it's
the value that he showed in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yes, yes, I'm gonna say a man only because his
team will probably have a better record than the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, it does help that Brunson plays in New York
as well, and that ground swell of coverage compliments and
he played well. I mean, he earned that right to
be an MVP candidate, absolutely, and even more so in
the postseason. But I would I'd be curious who has
better odds because Luca, to me, if he wins the
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title is going to be the odds on favor to
be the MVP next season, then you'll still have Joker
in there. If Tatum wins, then maybe Jason Tatum will
have better odds to win the MVP, and I'm looking
you know, there are some odds here, the odds to
win the finals MVP. It's Jason Tatum, then it's Luca,
then it's Jalen Brown. Kyrie Irving is a distant fourth.
(06:06):
Here the Celtics are favored. Got a wait a week here,
Christops porzingis his availability. I'm expecting him to be playing
in the series in the finals. If you're Dallas, you
probably want to have this series start right now, like
this morning or late last night. Can we start the
NBA Finals. This is just a sampling of Luca in
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the first quarter last night.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Fourteen from Lucas going on here.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Gears on Monday night, oke delay Anderson controlled by them out.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
There goes another heat check from Luca chi Chigne. Another three.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's a fine flower.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He has over fired twenty points.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Reggie and Kevin Harland on the call. Here's Jason Kidd
after the game talking about Luca.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Well, he was definitely Luca magic mode and just thinking
about is he going to play all forty eight? You know,
why not if he's going like that again? I thought
he set the tone and then he just made it
easier for everybody else. And everybody else stepped up.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Jake Kid is monotone. Yeah, if he was going to
play forty eight way he was playing, and he could
have just stayed out there and then that would have
been great.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Boy.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
He was really impressive last night, wasn't he. That's Jay Kid.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But you know, it's fun to watch a surprising watch
from the first quarter when Luke out scores Minnesota twenty
to nineteen. But yeah, Boston will be ready. Boston will
be ready for Kyrie. I hope Boston's ready for Luca
as well, but I know the fans will be ready
for Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So that's what went on last night. Panthers over the Rangers.
They're up three to two and a chance to go
back to the Stanley.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Final.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I was watching, you know, I couldn't watch the basketball
game too long because it was over. It was twenty
nine points at a half time. I go, let's see
how my Panthers are doing. And they ended up beating
the Rangers. What a great series though, it feels like
everything over time one goal. It's been great and the
Bears hard knocks. Congratulations, Paul. The Bears are on hard
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knocks prior to the start of the season, not to
be confused with the Giants part of hard Knocks prior
to the start of the prior to the start of
the season.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Very exciting. Bears are very relevant in the off season.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yes, yeah, I like their chances.
Speaker 10 (08:38):
I do.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I'm on the hype train.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, how many rookie quarterbacks have made the postseason, Let's say,
in the last twenty years, because that's what we're asking
Caleb Williams to do. By the way, Mike Tannenbaum, former
front office executive in the NFL, Neil John is coming
up because the wide receiver market is being reset. It
feels like every week. And I'm curious because Jalen Waddle
(09:05):
he got money that number one wide receivers get in Miami.
I was surprised, and justin Jefferson, he might be looking
for thirty three thirty four million dollars a year, maybe
thirty five million dollars a year. And you're going to
get to the point where do you pay him with
a rookie quarterback coming in or do you trade him?
(09:25):
And I thought they were going to trade him, And
prior to the draft, I thought that they were going
to go up and maybe go up to number two
and trade with Washington and take Daniels. I thought that
they were going to do that, but now you got
JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold. So trying to get something
(09:48):
out of your rookie quarterback. But you know, here's another thing.
I think people look at the Bears and they go, well,
the Bears are bad. They had the number one pick. Well, no,
they made a great trade, and then they he got
the number one pick from Carolina, who is really bad.
The Bears weren't bad last year. At seven wins, you
can tackle on a couple more here, maybe squeeze in
(10:09):
a wild card team. How many rookie quarterbacks have made
the postseason?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
They kind of led their team. Russell Wilson, he won
a playoff game as a rookie. Robert Griffin third got
the Redskins to the playoffs, Andrew Luck he didn't win.
Andy Dalton played a playoff game. This is recent history,
Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, of course, Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But how many of those quarterbacks played on teams that
were good before they got there. Russ goes to a
Seattle team that was good. Ben was on a Pittsburgh
team that was good, Andrew Luck not on a team
that was good.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Yeah, Paul, they weirdly, the Colts weren't that bad. They
lost Peyton Manning and they reverted back to awfulness. But
their roster wasn't bad.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
It was the Curtis Painter year. Ooh, no offense, and
the Cults weren't the bad like a bad roster okay.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Because the Bears, you know, they have a good roster.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's not elite, but you know, I thought that they
made some you know good You bring in Keenan Allen,
I'm assuming he's going to be good. You know that
you have wide receivers there, and I just feel like
you're giving Caleb Williams a head start more so than
you did justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Yes, Mark, Keenan Allen, he's always good, but he's always injured.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The health is the issue that's always where they go. Yes,
it's uh Keenan when healthy Allen? Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Can they have a winning.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Record based on a pretty tough division without having all
the other opponents in front of me on the Bear schedule?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Can you see them going at least nine and eight?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well you're not going to get into the playoffs going
eight and nine. So I see them winning nine games
this year.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Yeah, Paul, I'm in favor of the NFL moving to
eighteen games because it's so awkward to say nineteen. I
know in eight and nine. For that reason alone, I'm in.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Favor that I hate seventeen.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, he's a hell schmelth. I just want yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, we don't care about their health. They don't Oh,
give me an extra paycheck.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
We're gonna be nine to nine this year. Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yes, Ton, one year, you.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Get one more home game and then you get one
less home game.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well no, I think what happens is we're going around
the world. Okay, hey, you don't get that home game.
The NFL gets that home game. We're going to be
in Bartholona, We're going to be in Canada, We're going
to be in Brazil, Dublin, Munich, London.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They're not going to give you an extra home game, No, buddy,
no buddy.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know I saw this. Eminem has a new song.
When's the last time he put out a song? Is
this a record or is it a song? But it
I think he said that he wants to disappear.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
The song's name Houdini is he.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Puts something on social I saw a couple of days
ago about how he's like enough for my next act,
I'm going to make my career disappear or something like that.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I thought he already did.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No, I'm saying that he he doesn't do much. I
mean does he does?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He tour? I see him more at sporting events than
I do on stage.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Has Ton, Can you get rappers block where you just
can't come up with all those lines anymore?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I think?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
I better wrap this up.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, well it'd be called writer's block, but I see
what you're doing with the rapper writers block. Yes, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
The new album is called The Death of Slim Shady. Oh,
and this single is Houdini.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Do we have a little bit of eminem?
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
We'll find it, okay. Yeah. I thought that might be
part of the segment, that we would play the song
and then we'd know.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
We're allowed to.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh were we allowed to?
Speaker 7 (13:47):
It's called m as they say.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Okay, so he's got a new song, get permission from Marshall.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I did hear the song it's it's like almost like
not a remake of one of his more popular songs,
but it sounds like an offshoot of it. A Top
Gun was just like the first Top Gun. This is.
This is like a classic eminem song with new lyrics.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Doctor Dre Yes, Doctor Dre's in it. Okay, well maybe
we could see if we get clearance there, Clarence Yes, Marmon.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Would you see him a concert?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Sure, he doesn't.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
He doesn't do much of anything really, so whenever I
see him, I saw him at Lions games. Like you said,
I see him more sporting events than I see him
do anything else.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Or at his daughter's wedding who just got married recently.
But I feel old. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I sure
i'd go see him.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
This new song, Houdini is a callback to his O
two single Without Me. It almost starts a similar way.
It samples Steve Miller bands Abracadabra bro. No one's doing
that these.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Days, no nobody?
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Okay, So cert lean into more classic rock samples in
hip hop.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
We should or people should Yeah no, not really.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh okay, I got the Marshall Tucker Band. Here's Charlie
Daniels that never went down to Georgia featuring feet eminem
Yeah feet.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
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Speaker 6 (15:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I treat you guys so damn well I do. There
are times when I'm embarrassed that I treat you this well.
You can't show your face, No, I can't. My kids
even say you treat the DANTZ better than you treat us,
and I go, yeah, absolutely, we better out long. They
make me money, you guys, don't you take my money?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh buddy? All right, Well, talk some football. Mike Tannenbaum
will join us coming up. John Sally ooh, four time
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
Rookie quarterbacks who made the playoffs since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Stroud did that last year, Brock perty in twenty twenty two.
How about Skyler Thompson with my Dolphins in twenty two two,
Mac Jones did it, Lamar Jackson, Connor Cook with the Raiders,
Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, RG three, Andrew Luck, TJ. Yates
with the Texans, and some of these they're filling in
for somebody who was injured, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Ben, Roethlisberger,
(17:18):
Sean King, Todd Marinovich, Jim Everett, Peter Brock, Bernie Cosar,
Dan Marino. We're asking Caleb Williams to join that group.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I think he can.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Let's bring in Mike Tannenbon, former front office executive for
two NFL teams. You can find him on Get Up
Sports Center, NFL Live throughout this summer. Good to see you,
Mike T. Do you think Caleb Williams leads the Bears
to the playoffs this year?
Speaker 12 (17:43):
I don't dan, but I think he's gonna have a
great career. And I think we're playing such an enormous
amount of pressure on these young quarterbacks. You know, you
look most recently at guys like Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love.
They sat and now there are two of the younger,
bigger stars in our league. Obviously Mahomes is the best player.
And I think going back to like you mentioned Sanchez,
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like Mark was a meaningful part of what we did
at the Jets, but he was not the leader of
the of the band by any stretch. And I think
these guys are going to hit bumps in the road
and that's just part of the development. I look at
Caleb Williams beyond hard knocks stand I just want, like,
really worry it's the old coach Parcels, like, let's not
put him in Canton quite yet.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
If you were front office exec with the Bears, would
you have embraced hard knocks to give your team more,
you know, publicity exposure nationally, or because because you have
a rookie quarterback, you'd be like, nope, not this year.
Speaker 12 (18:41):
Yeah, you know, I lived it and the whole world
got to see what a shitty punt returner I am.
So that will live on forever. But look, the bottom
line is, you're the quarterback of the Chicago Bears. You're
like beyond Barack Obama. You must You're the most important
person from the state of Illinois for the foreseeable future,
and that's going to take some time. Like Dan, you know,
(19:02):
look at you. You're a Hall of Fame broadcaster. You're
a hell of a lot better today than you were
the four years of your career. Like, there's just you
got to put your time in. And if I was
the Bears, I would have kicked and scream and said, hey,
we don't mind doing hard knocks, but not this year.
Let this kid grow, let them develop, let them, you
know again, make some mistakes without the eyes of the
(19:22):
whole world seeing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I think they want the publicity there. And if
Mike was talking about being a kick returner, you can
google that Mike Tannenbaum returning punts and you don't have
a good laugh there. When you saw the Jalen Waddle deal,
your reaction was.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
Smart, good young player, explosive touchdown score. You know that
market's only going up. I'm hard pressed to understand what
Minnesota's doing.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The day that Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 12 (19:49):
Graduates and goes to the Falcons, I fly to see
Justin Jefferson's agent, and I don't leave the room out
getting a deal done, and that market just continues to explode.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, I was curious Wattle. It felt like got number
one wide receiver money. And at what point does Tyreek
Hill go I need to renegotiate here.
Speaker 12 (20:09):
I actually think that's apples and oranges. I think Tyrek
Hill is going to ask for a new deal.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You know after this year.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
He has no guaranteed money, so I think regardless, like
I think Tyreek Kill's mindset is.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I love Wadel, but he's one A or one B,
whatever it is. I'm the guy here.
Speaker 12 (20:23):
I'm the best receiver in the NFL, and I'm gonna
wun thirty four to thirty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I'm glad that I have Robin. But I'm Batman.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Okay, speaking of Tyreek Hill. We had this discussion earlier today.
Let's say Tyreek Hill and Randy Moss were coming into
the NFL. Now you knew what their talents were, which
one would you take first in today's NFL Randy Moss
or Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 12 (20:47):
I'm always gonna take Moss just because there's things about
his game that are literally indefensible.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 12 (20:52):
I think with Tyrek Hill, who's a Hall of Famer,
I think you could try to jam him at the
line of scrimmage. You can put somebody over the top.
There's way at least slow down speed. But with Randy Moss,
it was kind of like with Gronk for all those years,
stand like red zone, like you know what's coming, and
literally it's indefensible what he could do in terms of
a high point in the ball. Like, So to me,
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like I would take Moss over Hill.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
But I'm watching when they had hard knocks during the
season with the Dolphins and they just had a camera
on Tyreek Hill. You can't cover him, like even trying
to get him off the line of scrimmage. Mike, it's
I just think he can beat you short long. He's
so quick. He's as fast as Randy Moss, or at
least close to it. I'm guessing now he doesn't have
(21:40):
the height advantage, but he'm not afraid. You know, he's
gonna get it, and he can take it eighty yards
and you know the pass can be four yards and
he takes it eighty. It always felt like Randy, and look,
he was unbelievable, but he was a home run threat.
I need singles in doubles sometimes too, and it feels
like Tyreek Hill gives me both.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Yeah, look, I'd love to have either or both on
the team. But again I go back to Randy. Moss
to me is a little bit more like Gronk, Like,
no matter what we did with Gronk, we couldn't defend
him like just because of the size. And I think
Moss's ability to high point the ball, to me, is
what would separate the two.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
But again, I'm taking nothing away from tyer Kill.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
All right, let me go back to the wide receivers here, Jefferson.
I thought they might entertain trading him because if you're
gonna let Kirk Cousins go, now, I got Sam Darnold
and you're gonna get a rookie quarterback in there. Jordan
Addison is you know, a star in the making as well.
But Justin Jefferson thirty five million dollars a year wide
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receivers that where we're starting out.
Speaker 12 (22:43):
Look, I think that's exactly the right, Dan. It's a
really fair point. If we were going to move on
from Cousins, maybe we blow the whole thing up. Take
JJ McCarthy and say, hey, you know, in two to
three years we're gonna be really good and run the
Detroit Lion play. Obviously they did not do that. So again,
like I think they're a little bit half pregnant, which
was if you're going to keep Jefferson, get the deal
done before aj Brown, DeVante Smith, now Jalen Waddell. And
(23:07):
by the way, the big winner and all this to
me is Jamar Chase ccitting and Cincinnati dam with his
feed up and say hey, I'm gonna have my LSU
teammate do all the heavy lifting and I'm just going
to walk in and tell you know, the Brown family
I need ten percent more than.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You know whatever. You know, Justin Jefferson gets and we're
good to go.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Okay, where do you rank wide receiver on your priority
list as far as who you're paying and how much
you're paying.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
I'm not paying them as much, but for a different reason.
I think the position's super important, but it's also replaceable.
And let me give you a great example. If you
and I were running the Cowboys. First of all, I'm
shocked that that's that signed yet, like they've given him
a blank check, but he's going to be there. I'm
going to pay Micah Parsons before Cede Lamb just because
it's a lot harder to find Micah than it is
(23:52):
Cdee Lamb. Taking nothing away from Cede Lamb. But if
we were running a team, dam we can find a receiver,
and that's why I would consider.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Paying one too.
Speaker 12 (24:01):
And I think a good example of that is like
what Cincinnati's doing. They're gonna let t Higgins graduate. They
drafted Jermaine Burton the third round and hopefully in a
year he's going to replace Higgins. We saw San Francisco
take two receivers, Jacob Cowey in the fourth, they took
Ricky Kersel in the first round. Presumably they'll let you
know either Deebo Samuel or Brandon Ijuko at the end
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of the year.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Talking to Mike tan and baumb ESPN front office insider.
Let me go back to the Cowboys. Are they in
a good situation? If you're the GM of the Cowboys,
how do you feel about this season? With Ceedee, Lamb,
Dak and Micah Parsons all looking for new contracts.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
They're in a catastrophically terrible situation. Here's why.
Speaker 12 (24:40):
Dak Prescott's thirty one years old. He was second in
the league in the MVP, and he has no ability
to be franchised. So Dan, imagine if we were running
the Raiders, there's no price we would pay not to
go get Dak with some other really good pieces there.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
You know.
Speaker 12 (24:56):
Now they have brocked hours DeVante Adams, So it's not
what you think he's worth, it's what he could get
in the market. And without them drafting a quarterback this year. Now, look,
maybe Trey Lance develops, but let's face it, that's a
long shot. You've essentially given him a blank check. I mean,
you have to get him signed. He's in the prime
of his career and there's absolutely nothing you can stop
(25:17):
him from leaving at the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, and it feels like if they don't get I
just don't know why they're not paying him if if
Jerry's saying, well, let me see it one more time,
like give me the reason or logic. If you're the
GM and you go to Jerry, why aren't why don't
we have a deal with Deck? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (25:35):
I think there is an argument out there, and when
you talk to teams there's a little bit of a
sentiment of would you rather have Gardner Minshew at ten
million dollars a year and versus someone like you know,
Daniel Jones or Kirk Cousins between thirty five and forty
million or a year, meaning that being market is one
(25:55):
where it's say, you have so much of your resources
unless they are like a difference. Are are we better
off just going young? Or you know a Marcus Mariota
a Minshew type now to me, daft to me is
an a I know there's some postseason concerns, but he's
played really well and when you talk to people in
that building, his leadership and character is beyond reproach and
(26:17):
he has a personality that could withstand being you know,
basically like one of the highest profile positions in the sport.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, they keep waiting and the price tag keeps going up.
If I said you can have Jordan Love for the
next five years or Trevor Lawrence the next five years.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Oh, that's easy for me. It's Jordan Love. I'll put
it to you this way.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's easy. That's not easy.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's easy. Dan.
Speaker 12 (26:42):
If we were drafting NFL players, I think you and
I would agree we take Patrick Mahomes number one.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I'm taking Jordan Love number two. I've really been thinking about.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
This a lot, like who would you take before Jordan
Love in terms of youth ability? And I think his
future is limitless. And while well, I think Trevor Lawrence
has a ability, you know, at some point you know
this is the old Belichick like you should show greatness.
And I think what we've seen with Trevor Lawrence is
being shown being good B plus. But we've seen Jordan
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Love in one year show greatness. He was arguably, over
the last half of the season, arguably the best quarterback
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So if we're having a quarterback draft, you're taking Mahomes
and then you're taking Jordan left one.
Speaker 12 (27:29):
Hundred percent, And I'm not even thinking about it. You
can have anybody else, but you give me Jordan Love.
I'm set for the next decade. High character, great ability,
been fully baked and developed, and I'm not looking back.
And by the way that team is loaded with young
skill players, I'm hard pressed to think that they're not
going to be right back where they were a year ago.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Deep in the NBC playerffs, look at you, Look at you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Mike Greenberg's probably crying right now because you're saying this
on my show and not on Get Up or First
Take with Steven A. ESPN's got to go, Hey, Mike,
t like, easy there, save the hot stuff for our shows.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
We'll get to that once the NBA files are over.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm sure new kickoff rules this year, do you draft differently?
Like what's the strategy from a front office executive with
the new kickoff rules?
Speaker 12 (28:20):
Yeah, it already impacted the draft. You know, talk to
a lot of teams about it. What's really interesting, Dan,
and again none of us know, but based on the
limited information we have from like the XFL and others,
you're looking at a little bit of a different body type.
It's really interesting. So for example, like we talked about
Tyreek Hill, the people that are there gravitate gravitating to
is someone like Cordrell Patterson, someone a little bit bigger, sturdier,
(28:43):
because I think what you're going to be seeing is
someone that has to break a tackle before you.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Get into space.
Speaker 12 (28:48):
And look, that's the speculation, but I'm not saying it's
gonna be him, but someone like a Deebo sand or
someone that's really physical, because this rule is designed to
have physicality in a small space so you don't have
that high speed impact. And I think if we're sitting
here around Halloween and talking about player X leading the
league and kickoff returns, I think it's gonna be somebody
(29:10):
that has the ability to break tackles.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Would you have Tyreek Hill go back if you're the Dolphins.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
If the game was on the line, I want the
ball in his hands one hundred percent of the time.
But I also have to be smart to know that
it's a seventeen game season, and let's face it, if
it's Week four and more on the road against an
NFC team, I'm not doing that. And I think, you know,
we got to remember. I know he's not a quarterback,
but last year, sixty six quarterbacks started a game, and
the health of your frontline players matter.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Great stuff. People in Green Bay love you.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, they'll buy me a beer next time in the town.
So I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Dan, Thank you. Mike.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
That's Mike tannebaumb ESPN front office executive and he speaks
from experience. He was a GM for a couple of
teams there. How about that with Jordan Love?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Okay? And he said, oh, it's easy.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
When I said if you were taking Trevor Lawrence Jordan
Love and he goes, it's easy, I thought, well, he's
going to say Trevor Lawrence all of a sudden, Jordan Love.
I go ooh, okay, that's a one year performance from
Jordan Love. It's one of those where you go and
this is why I think that Green Bay wanted to
move on from Aaron Rodgers a year earlier. Is eventually
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you know what you have. It's just like when they
moved on from Brett fav they could see what they
had with Aaron Rodgers and then you're like, oh gosh,
you know Kansas City, you know you had, you know
a situation where you go, okay, Alex is going to
take us so far. Look at that guy when Justin
(30:45):
Herbert went to the Chargers and you saw him during
training camp and then you go, oh, my gosh, okay,
that guy's going to be your starter. The players see
it before everybody else does. But Jordan Love is the
second quarterback off the board with everybody in there, Joe Burrow,
mar Jackson. Wow, all right, you're welcome Green Bay. You're
(31:11):
welcome Wisconsin. Let me get a couple of phone calls
in here, Sean and Oregon. Hi, Sean, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 8 (31:20):
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
I heard you talking about the Bears earlier and you
said they have seven wins and they're pretty good team.
I mean, I doesn't even go together. I mean, they
not be one of the worst teams. But America doesn't
believe in the Bears, and we're not so sure that
Caleb Williams won't even be a bus with those guys,
and we're just not believers. Brother.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Okay, look, I'm not a Bears fan. I'm just telling
you what I think, and I think that with seven wins.
The reason why I say that they're, you know, a
respectable team with seven wins is normally having amber one pick,
you had two or three wins, so they're already ahead
of the game. They got the number one pick. They
(32:05):
also got a number one wide receiver in one of
the greatest fleecing that we've seen in NFL history with
a trade and you got Caleb Williams. And no, I
don't know if he's going to be successful, but I am.
I'm assuming he's going to be respectables first year. You
got some talent there. It's great to have an offensive line,
(32:25):
some consistency with the head coach or offensive coordinator, which
hopefully he gets and uh, you know, you could be
an eight or nine win team.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Set the Bears had seven wins last season. Yeah, that
didn't feel like a respectable season. Well for the for
the team with the first pick. Overall, how many seven
win you know teams like that get. You know, I
have them as seven and ten last year, three and fourteen,
The year before six and eleven, eight and eight, eight
(32:58):
and eight, twenty eighteen, they were twelve and four. Man,
does that feel like a lifetime?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
It was a long time? Holy smokes. All right, I'm
just on.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I'm on the Bears bandwagon, and I can say that
I haven't been on the Bears bandwagon since Jim McMahon
was there.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I feel like Kayleb Williams has to start at eight
wins plus.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's a disappointment if he doesn't get to eight wins.
If you're matching what Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Did or CJ. Stroud?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Are the Bears as good as the Texans were going
into last season.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Or like if PFF grated the roster, Yes, we could check.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That, Yeah, because nobody had the Texans doing anything. You
had a rookie coach and a rookie quarterback and you
didn't know anybody on that team.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
The Texans were three thirteen and one when they drafted CJ.
Stroud and then the next year obviously made the playoffs.
The Bears had four more wins.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Let's take a break. More phone calls coming up, be short.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
No basketball coming up this weekend, got a wait a
week before the NBA Finals start. Some of the other
events you got UFC coming up this weekend? The Chicago
Sky versus the Indiana Fever. It's Katelyn Clark and let's
see in three Chicago skot Yes, yes, yeah, scourging.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Yes, injuries, making history, getting no credit she's a double
double getting no credit?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah, Inner Miami, didn't they just lose. They just
suffer their first loss.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
They lose. They're not invincible. Okay against Saint Louis City
sc U s lcsc S s LC s C. Yeah,
I've got the all Seaton Champions League Final. It's versus
Real Madrid, who had Don playing in the Champion versus Goliath.
(35:17):
There is where is Dortmund? Seaton in Germany? A little
more specific than that, do you know where Dortmun.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Is a name?
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I don't know, like which, like what quadrant of Germany
it is? It's southeastern North all right.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Dortmun is known for developing stars then they move on
to other teams.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Like Real Madrid's big star this year is Jude Bellingham
and he came from uh Doan.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah, I've got that.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
Dortmund is a city in Germany's North Rhine Westphalia region.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Okay, it is in uh Holland from U Dortmund.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah, the Christian Polistics some time there, Okay, A bunch.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Of US guys Lewindownski Yeah, okay, look who knows their
soccer a little bit?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
First soccer now?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, hockey hockey. A's versus the Braves. Who's with me?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
That's essentially the real Madrid Jort of Major League Baseballs.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
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Harpy got the newest fan of the DP show here
born Wednesday night, little Margaret Anne at nineteen inches six
pounds four ounces hand size approaching Marvin. Okay, I just
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watching the show. Wanted to get some advice from the guys.
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Oh I can. I can hear their sleep when she sleeps?
If you can, that would be good advice. And once again,
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You have to put her first, and then you put
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(37:27):
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Speaker 13 (37:33):
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Speaker 2 (37:33):
Good luck, though, Eric and congratulations. Hank in Missouri, Hi, Hank,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (37:41):
Hey, good morning Dan. Five to eleven triproduces. Hey, First
of all, there will be no ceasing to assist. I'm
going to give you the rights to the T shirt
in exchange for the prototype of my wife's size. Let's
go back to the Super Bowl. I'm a huge Chiefs fan.
We're watching the game. Some clown breaks through, gets some
Homes on the ground. I'm having a pritty like tirade.
(38:06):
Might have been a profanity in there, and I might
have thrown something, but anyway, my wife Denise was on
the end of the couch, very calmly seeing Sack of
the day.
Speaker 13 (38:16):
Sack of the day.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Yeah, back of the day, Sack of the day.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay, So we could have Mahomes sprawled out with an
outline of him and have the sack of the day.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Jonathan in Texas, Hi, Jonathan.
Speaker 14 (38:34):
Hey, guys, I gotta doing today?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Good?
Speaker 14 (38:36):
Great?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (38:38):
You know a little earlier you're talking about Luca. Is
he the best? Is he not the best? I think
he was the best last year. He just didn't need
the credit because of where the team finished this year,
finishing with fifty wins, doing something that's never been done
in NBA history before thirty four, nine to nine. I
don't think there's a question as to whether he's the
best player in the NBA anymore. I think it's it's
hands down. But on a very serious note, I have
(38:59):
just taken a job teaching journalism in high school, first
time ever teaching the class, and I've got a question,
what would be your biggest piece of advice for a
new teacher in journalism.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Oh, Paulie, you're a teacher.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Yeah, I teach a journalism class. I would say, give
them real life examples of stuff that's going on now,
not stuff that happens sixty years ago. It'll engage them better.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
And also make sure they write every day.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know, musicians talk about whatever their instrument is, you
got to play it every day.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Writers write every day. Got to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Get into the habit sixty seconds where here's the top story.
Give me a sixty second recap or a two minute recap.
That would be just a little bit of advice. But
Paulie does teach students. I advise students with my broadcasting school.
But I always tell them, as a writer, be curious
(39:55):
and don't take you know, the first answer you get
or the first piece of inf Always always be willing
to question something. And when you interview people, short questions,
open ended, get people talking. The more they talk, the
better your column is going to be, your your article
is going to be, or your book is going to be.
(40:16):
You want people to talk. That's my goal when I
have people on, I want them to say things like
I would take Jordan Love as the second best quarterback,
give me the NFL.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Mike t gonna make some headlines with that one, and
he said it was easy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yes, well, but he was saying law with Trevor Lawrence.
And I still think, you know, that's that's a questionable take.
Though I'm waiting for Trevor to be something more. Jordan
Love is surprising us that he's something more. So there's
a difference.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
As opposed to Justin Herbert. I wait for Justin Herbert
to be great. Look at bron Perdy, Well, we had
no expectations for him. Final Hour, John Saling for NBA Titles.
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