June 6, 2024 • 54 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP reacts to reports that the Lakers are targeting UConn Head Basketball Coach Danny Hurley. UConn's Women's Head Basketball Coach Geno Auriemma joins the show to discuss the possibility of Hurley leaving and talk Caitlin Clark's first couple weeks in the WNBA. Plus, Hall of Famer Reggie Miller previews the start to the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, we didn't see that when coming Welcome to the
program hour one on this Thursday, Dan and the Dance
Dan Patrick Show. The Lakers do have a coach in waiting,
it's just probably not the coach we thought who would
be in waiting. If you're just waking up WOJ with
a WOJ bomb that Danny Hurley is being targeted as
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the next head coach of the LA Lakers here, we
thought it was JJ Reddick. We're waiting until the NBA
Finals is over and then he would assume that position.
Not so fast. So once again I guess being targeted
according to WOJ. Usually when WOJ says that, it feels
like the contract talks are a little bit further down
the road, and I'm guessing if Danny Hurley is looking
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at what would be compensatory for me what I did
at Yukon now going to the Lakers. Lakers have been
historically cheap with some of their coaches here, and they
lost out on Tyloo because they didn't want to pony
up what the Clippers were willing to pay. He might
look around and go, I want what Tyloo's getting, or
I want what Eric Spolster is getting. Is it going
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to be you know, twelve million dollars fifteen million dollars
a year. That's something that Connecticut would not be able
to match because they're a stage school, not a private school.
But this, this was a well kept secret in a
town that doesn't keep secrets very well. Didn't even hear
a hey, you know what's crazy. Here's a wild rumor.
You know what I heard from somebody who talked to
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somebody who talked to somebody. Well, we didn't have any
of that. But Danny Hurley and the LA Lakers are
engaged in talks, or at least that's what I want
to be fair with the wording on this. Woe just
said targeting Danny Hurley. Now, I want to take you
back to April seventeenth, and Danny Hurley was on the
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show and I talked to him about the possibility of
leaving yukon what would make you leave Connecticut?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Maybe just burnout at this point for me, just uh,
you know, pushing too hard and probably you know, just
breaking down at some point, just uh, because you just
can't keep up the intensity and and the energy and
and you know, the output.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And then maybe down the road, if I could grow
up a little bit mature, you know, matrorel a little
bit with the emotions, maybe the NBA, you know, down
down the road.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
So why do you want to do that? Why do
you want to do that to yourself? Go to the NBA?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Well, you know, I think college has become like the
G League. Uh, you know, yeah in a way.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I mean it's uh, you know, not that's obviously tongue
in cheek, but you know, a lot of the college
game has changed. You know, you you you, you win
the national championship, and obviously we're gonna do things. Go
to White, do these we have the parade, you do
these things. But you're basically right into free agency frenzy.
So you know, it's I'm more worried about burnout that
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I am going to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So there's a lot of elements here in play. And
you hear all the time Lebron not involved in the
coaching search. He I know, has given a stamp of
approval to what Danny Hurley has done at Connecticut. I
think he's already responded to the possibility of Danny Hurley
going to the Lakers, Danny Hurley and his staff Bill
Murray's son Luke, they have really kind of reprogrammed college
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basketball with their approach on recruiting to style offensively, and
maybe this is something the Lakers looked at and said,
this isn't a two year play, this is a seven
year play. This is about the Lakers, not Lebron and
not Anthony Davis. This is about us as we move
forward as a franchise.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Now we have a coach who who we believe.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
In in developing players, and Hurley is very good at
doing that and he sees what others don't see. Now
his style is always what's going to be the curious
part for me, because he talked about burnout. Now you
have eighty two games, and you're going to have eighty
two games under a microscope like you've never had before.
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Every you know, moment with Lebron or AD is going
to be amplified. You're not in stores Connecticut anymore. If
this does happen now you're with the Lakers, everything is
going to be magnified. Your style. We hear from Brian
Winhorst all the time. Wendy says Lebron loves to be coached. Okay,
you're going to be coached, and here you are at
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the end of your career and you got Anthony Davis.
They did not play Kate Lebron because that probably would
have been JJ Reddick JJ Reddick calling the finals, and
we thought, you know, this was just you know, mere formality.
He's going to do the NBA Finals once he's done
with his requirements with ESPN ABC, that he takes the
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Laker job. You didn't hear anything about any possibility with
Danny Hurley, and that is surprising, but I think it's awesome.
I think if Danny Hurley wants that challenge and he's
you know, he's lived and coached, grew up on the
East Coast, and I think he'd always said, you know,
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remember we talked to him about the Kentucky job, and
it's like, no, my wife, no, we would. She didn't
want to leave, you know, the Tri state area, and
that's something you know, I'm sure this is part of
the negotiation of convincing her to go out to Los
Angeles to take that job. But you know, given the
state of college basketball, nil transfer portal, I mean, it
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used to be ad control. Now you don't have any control.
I mean, he can try, but let's say it doesn't
work out, if he goes to the Lakers, and maybe
after four years, he can always go back to college basketball.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
So I get it. I understand it. It's the next
challenge for him.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I mean, if you're at Yukon, you're sad if this happens,
but you also have to say, hey, thank you. I mean,
gave you back to back national titles. So there's something
to be said for everybody involved in this. With the Lakers,
with what they're doing, why they're doing it, Lebron, how
does this work with him? Ad how does this work
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with him? And then Danny Hurley that style of what
you were doing at Connecticut. You know, he's like Mike
McDaniel with the Dolphins, like he's an innovator. He's trying
to come up with different concepts. This might be what
he runs, might be similar to the triangle offense as
far as this could be something that other teams try
to adopt, or you're trying to understand it. So many
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different options, and the offense has been great. You know,
they dominated college basketball, outscoring their opponents by what close
to two hundred points. It felt like and then you
went back to back titles. So that's the big news
today day. Once again, Woje's reporting that the Lakers are
targeting Dan Hurley. And you know, if I'm looking at
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what is going to be security guaranteed contract, you know,
six seven, eight years, you know it would take that.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
You want me to run your organization?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
All right, then you got to pay me, and they're
going to have to pay Danny Hurling stat of the
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Speaker 6 (07:43):
Well?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
How much value do you put in the chance to
repeat pretty rare in college basketball? That's a once in
a generation, once in a lifetime opportunity. I'm trying to
think of reasons that Dan Hurley would stay at Yukon
because jumping to the Lakers for a crazy amount of money,
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which we assume it would be, is almost like and
the stamp of approval from Lebron, you know, is.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Like just an insurmount. Why wouldn't you do that? Anybody
would do that?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I think the challenge, like everything about Danny Hurley
is a chip on his shoulder when he was playing
to when he was coaching, he still has a chip
on his shoulder, and he's probably going to say, all right,
you know, I'm the third most famous Hurley, my dad Bobby,
I'm going to be the most famous. And I think
that probably, you know, kind of feeds into who he
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is and his personality.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Now you go to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
As far as staying, you know, you stay, You've created something.
Now you are the face of college basketball. But I
don't know what motivates him, what makes him tick.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yes, well that is the thing too that I think
about is that he was sort of born and raised
in basketball as a lot of people have, and their
family is much more famous for college bass basketball then
for professional basketball. Right, it certainly won't be his last
job offer, although I don't know how many times the
Lakers come calling, But just knowing that, or at least
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thinking of him as a little bit of a college
basketball historian, the chance to three peat is pretty great.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I don't know what motivates him. Like for us,
you'd go, boy, that'd be awesome to three pete. You
know what would be more awesome to win a title
with the Lakers. One peating with the Lakers. Yes, just
one title, one pete. Yeah, nobody ever won peats.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
A singular pete with Lebron and the Lakers on his
way out.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, I'll do that all day. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock or streaming
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starting tonight. I wondered what the commissioner thinks of this
this morning where he's like, all right, yeah, all this
attention game won everybody excited?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Wait, what's woad? You're reporting the lake. At least it's basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You imagine if it was an Aaron Rodgers story and
then all of a sudden, everybody would be you know,
that would be suffocating you. But get ready for a
healthy dose here because it's the Lakers and it's Lebron
it's not like he's going to the Bobcats. He's going
to the Lakers. If that's the case, Wow, and he's
going Yeah, that is accurate though, Yes it's the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
It's not the Bobcats. It's Lebron and the Lakers. Ad Well, Lebron, Yeah,
he is.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I know's see if he wants to be coached too, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
It's kind of sad. I was just thinking, if Danny
Hurley leaves college basketball a true character and basically the
face of college basketball, Nick Saban leaves college football a
couple months ago, Jim Harbaugh leaves college football a couple
months ago, and they're all going pro. I went and
look back. This is kind of comparable to Nick Saban
when he was in the middle of his run at Bama.
Every year there was a rumor about him being looked
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at for the Cowboys job and it was never real.
You never found any reports, but there's always rumors. This
was the opposite. There was never rumors, just real.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, it's my job to think this way. Could this
be leverage for Danny Hurley with a new contract at Connecticut?
Could I just want to I got to look at
all angles here. Could it have started that way because
he's been looking for a contract extension all of a sudden.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
You know what's I.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Said I wouldn't take another college job, but I didn't
say I wouldn't go to the NBA. Right now, I
don't know if it's a leverage play. WOJ and Wendy
keep saying, Hey, this isn't a done deal yet they're
targeting him. Okay, I do have to look at sort
of what's been going on and is there a leverage play.
We taped an interview with Gino Oriema about forty five
(11:59):
minutes ago. I'm going to play it next hour, and
I'm going to tell you it's appointment listening.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
It is wild.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We touch on a variety of things, including a conversation
he had with Danny Hurley last night about taking.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
The Laker job.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
What are the odds that he spoke with Danny Hurley
last night not even knowing that Danny Hurley had been
talking or is talking or going to be talking to
the Lakers. He works down the hall from him. So, Gino,
the interview that we did last forty five minutes ago,
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it'll be next hour at this time, and it is
must listen radio.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
We do talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Caitlyn Clark, the treatment of Kitlyn Clark as well, and
he's got some things to say about college basketball and
certainly on the men's side of where we are right now.
But Gino Oriema, who just signed the contract extension with
the Yukon women five year OD, he'll join us coming up.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Yes, Marvin, do you think the Lakers need Hurley Moore
or the hur or Hurley needs the Lakers more the.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Lakers need Hurley. There's no great coaching candidates out there.
I mean, there's no marquee name where you go, Jerry
West or pat Riley or Phil Jackson. Danny Hurley, he's
on the short list of most famous coaches in America.
And what he's done wherever he's gone, he wins. I
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mean there's a horrorball feel to him of hey, I'm here,
I'm there, I'm there, and everybody's a winner. And Harball
coaches this raw, raw college type way and Danny Hurley
coaches that way as well. But it's it's pretty shocking though.
But I would say the Lakers, if the Lakers get
get somebody, you know, you want stability. It's not you know,
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who's the coach now, Well, he won't be coaching too
much longer.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
It's what I wondered about JJ Reddick. Would he be
a two year coach?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Because is Lebron going to play for two years and
then all of a sudden you change because you're going
to be in a rebuild Danny Hurley, and you know,
the Lakers aren't going, well, this would be good for us.
Five years down the road. They still think that they
can win, and rightfully so. And you have Lebron and
Ad and you should think you could win. But I
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think this is a bigger picture, bigger play for the
Lakers to say, we got a coach who's going to
have tenure, he's going to be respected, he's a bright mind,
and he's going to be the future, the current and
the future of our organization. But as far as Danny Hurley,
I mean, unless it's money, he could have stayed at
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Connecticut try for a three peak and you know, maybe
this is just you put it all in the blender
and you go, golle it's too good to pass up.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Yes, Marv stores Laguna Beach, same thing on a stage, Yeah,
it's all the same. Yes, don I know he just
won back to back titles.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
And we're not saying that Danny Hurley would be instantly
successful if he took the job. But is he going
to hear the same kind of things that JJ Reddick's
doing with Hey, he's never coached one game in the NBA.
Is Knowing going to state anything about Danny Hurley and
what he can do or not doing the pros?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
No? No, he proved it in college.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
You guys have proved that he's in college and then
there was a disaster in the pros well.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But I think because of that, because of what he's
did at Yukon, JJ Reddick hadn't coached at all. Danny
Hurley has coached young players and he's won back to
back titles. That's a pretty good resume to go into
the NBA. Now, we've had coaches. Jerry Tartanian didn't last
long when he went in to coach the Spurs. It
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was on this day, this is the anniversary of coach
k considering going in to coach the Lakers. There you
have Billy Donovan when Billy Donovan left Florida, Steve Spurrier
when he left Florida go to Washington, Nick Saban went
there's it's littered with that. But I think this is
a great hire by the Lakers. I love it now.
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If it happens, I think it's a great, great hire.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
I do.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And I think that's once again woje is saying this,
so is Windy. They're just they're targeting him now. It
feels like if WOJ is saying this, they're further down
the road. This is like woj is saying, hey, they're
targeting him, and then six six hours from now, it's like, yeah,
done deal, Yes, Seaton, you.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Know it's weird.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I bet that the one thing that might actually be
standing in the way of Dan Hurley taking this job
is lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yes, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I don't think he has any interest in moving a
portion of his family to Los Angeles. I think he
wants to stay right on the East Coast where he's
near his parents and he's near his family and.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
All the Jersey stuff they got going on. That's all real,
that's all very real. He wants to be right here.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's one of the biggest surprising parts of this, not
that he would be taking the job, interested that he
would leave the East Coast. All right, we'll take a
break once again, gino Oriama conversation we recorded a little
less than an hour ago. Reggie Miller will join us
as well as we preview Game one of the NBA
Finals just getting started. Who a lot to talk about
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Speaker 6 (18:05):
Fritzy has got a wild numerology. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'll get to this coming up in a little bit there,
but there's a numerology going on with the Lakers and
Danny Hurley and JJ Reddick. So we'll have that for
you coming up here in a little bit. Two hours ago,
we talked to Gino Oriema before we started our show live,
and we wanted to talk to him. He signed a
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contract extension, had some things to say about Caitlin Clark,
and then of course the Danny Hurley story falls into
our lap.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
So I tape.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The Geno interview and this is it in its entirety,
has not been edited, and it's just Geno being Geno
after signing a five year contract extension to stay as
the head coach of the Yukon Women. And I started
the interview by asking Geno his reaction to the Danny
Hurley to the Lakers.
Speaker 13 (19:01):
You know, this is really funny because I happened to
be with it at a thing with him last night,
and I have no idea what's going on, you know,
I have no idea where this is going or what's happening.
But I said, just leaned over and I said, hey,
I think you can win a lot of championships with
the Lakers, you know, more.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
So than a guy who's never coached.
Speaker 13 (19:23):
And he just looked at me, and you know, nodded
and we had a good laugh. And then this morning
I wake up and while off so I don't know
what's going on. And it'd be a bad day for
Yukon for sure if this happens, and it would be
a great, great day for Dan Hurley. And I'm sure
a bittersweet day for Dan Hurly.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, now you're being serious that you did bring this
up to him last night about the Lakers jump.
Speaker 13 (19:47):
Out of nowhere. I just leaned over and I said,
you know, I don't know why it came to me.
I don't know why, but I said it, and if
you ask him, I'll tell you. And I had no idea.
And I woke up this morning and somebody sent it
to me and I went, you got to be kidning me.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I know that he's talked about not going to another
college job that if he does go down the road
when he thinks he's mature enough to coach in the NBA.
This happened a lot quicker, But I'm wondering the state
at college basketball, certainly men's college basketball, GINO, Does that
make this decision a little bit more I guess palatable
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or easier when you think about him wanting to go
to coach the NBA instead of trying to go for
a three peat, all those are true.
Speaker 13 (20:31):
I think the state of college basketball is a mess
anyone who if anybody could manage it, though, it would
be Danny because he coaches this program like it's a
high school program, like he coached the Saint Benedicts. Their
player development program is second to none. But I do
think that being at Yukon and given the state of
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college basketball and the amount of money now that it's
going to take to be able to put together a
national championship team every single year, I think, and without
knowing where it's going.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
It's a charade.
Speaker 13 (21:09):
It's this idea of student athlete, student athlete welfare. Every
single thing that comes out of the NCAA's mouth about
student athlete welfare, mental health, it's book that has no
factor ever anymore. And I never want to hear anybody
out of those words associated with college basketball. There are
professional athletes just not called that, So you might as
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well go coach professional athletes where it's real. Now, if
Danny were to leave and somebody said to me, you know,
he just took this NBA job, I won't name any
particular city. I would say, you know, you're set up
for failure, but it's the Lakers. And if I don't
know the details of it, but if you're saying, hey,
I want a ten year to deal, I want the
same deal Brad Stevens got to Boston.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
It might be more than that.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Well, Dan, you know what, Hey, Andrea, his wife might
not like me, but it's crazy if he doesn't take it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But that's what surprised me though, Gino is he's an
East Coast guy. Yeah, and he'd have to convince her
to go out, you know, to Rodeo drive.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Yeah, well that part she might not. She might not,
you know, she might not argue with it. Maybe all
the other parts you might have a problem with.
Speaker 13 (22:22):
But yeah, yeah, it's a it's a huge family. It's
a huge family decision.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
No question about how many offers have you had and
let's say the last fifteen years, ten years.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Well they all came too late.
Speaker 13 (22:35):
But you know, one, two, three, four total, including you know,
between men's college basketball and NBA stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
What was the men's what was the NBA stuff?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I talked to a.
Speaker 13 (22:56):
Couple of people about being an assistant when I thought
this game was going where it's going, and I thought, well,
I wish I was younger, because it was at an
age where it's like, do I really have it in
me to be that and be fair to that for
one hundred and some games if you're lucky enough during
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the season. And I wouldn't be so pretentious enough to
think that I could go from where I am or
where I've been coaching women's basketball, and I listen, coaching
is coaching.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I get it.
Speaker 13 (23:31):
But the distance and the gap. I thought, you know what,
if I could be an assistant here for a couple
of years, three four years, I think I could do
this job. But it just came at the wrong time
in my career. But if I come earlier, I would.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Have done it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Talking to Gino Orima, the Hall of Fame head coach
with Connecticut and just signed a five year deal. Any
talk of retirement when you sat down with the family.
Now yet No, so you were signing extension. There was
no do I want to do it five more years?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
No, I'd already decided that I wanted to.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Now what pisses me off is that if I'd have
known that this was happening with Danny because I think
I gave them the old you know, AARP discount to
university because I thought they're going to have to pay
a lot of money to keep Hurly. Well, if he leaves,
I'm gonna be pissed and I'm going to rip up
that contract and I want to know one and I
want some of the money that they were going to
(24:28):
give him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So just call it the Hurley clause. If Hurley leaves,
then you want a Hurley clause.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
That's right.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
I'm envisioning the Hurley clause. And this might become, you know,
a commonplace in college sports.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know if you use it as leverage, but
you can always say, hey, I'll just coach the men's
team at Yukon if you're not going to give me
this kind of money.
Speaker 13 (24:45):
No, I would never do that, you know. I'd be
like moving your shortstop to second base. You'd screw up
both programs.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So no talk of retirement.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You're going to be what seventy five when this is
all said and done, supposedly.
Speaker 13 (24:57):
You know, but you know what really motivated me when
Pops signs his new deal.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So pop yeah, but Popovich with Wemben Yama I'm sure
he's like, you know what, let me hang around this
guy for a little longer.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Okay, well, I think I got a couple of guys
in my program that I want to hang around with
a couple a couple of years long. And I actually, seriously,
when Pop signed this deal, I said, you know what,
I'm going to go to my I D and said,
I want.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Half of that.
Speaker 13 (25:22):
He signed for ten years for eighty million or five
years for eighty million. I said, I've signed five years
for twenty million. But didn't play out.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
But actually did they played out exactly that way?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Actually, good, I saw where you said the WNBA they're
targeting Caitlin Clark. What do you mean by how she's
being guarded or you know, in force?
Speaker 13 (25:45):
I think yeah, I think you and I both know
the landscape that we live in today, both sports wise
and non sports wise. Right, we are in a red
blue and if you're red, you can't agree with blue,
and if you're blue, you can't agree with red, Whereas
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most things are in the middle. If you're a college player,
and you're a great college player, like Caitlin was, the
delusional fan base that follows her disrespected the WNBA players
by saying she's going to go in that league and
tear it apart. There were actually odds on what are like,
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she's third or fourth embedting odds of being MVP at
a WNBA. These people are so disrespectful and so unknowledgeable
and so stupid that it gives women's basketball a bad name. Okay,
so the kid was set up for failure right from
the beginning. So if you're a WNBA player, and I
believe me, I've coached the best and I've pissed them
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off a lot, and they let me know about it.
But they were tremendously disrespected and none of them are
going to say it. But human nature is okay, this
kid's coming into the league, and Diana said it best.
This kid's in for a rude awakening. And they all
jumped over her. But they didn't read the whole thing
that she said. But nobody's printing. You know, Diana Trassi
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was right. This kid's on the wrong team. She's got
the wrong skill set. They handled the physicality of that league.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
And she's a rookie.
Speaker 13 (27:19):
And if you're a WNBA player, if you're any kind
of player, you're gonna say I'm gonna make a statement. Targeted,
targeted by society, targeted by her looks, targeted by her reputation,
targeted by the disrespect that they've shown to the WNBA.
There's a huge target on this kid's back. I thought
Cameron Bring said something really smart. She said, now they're
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expecting this rookie class to be perfect. This rookie class
isn't even one of the best rookie classes in the
last ten years, but they've been put out to be
that because the way social media is today. So what
kind of impact is this rookie class having in a WNBA.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
How do you think Clark is handling this.
Speaker 13 (27:59):
I think she's hand and great. I think she talks
a lot and she gets a lot of back. So
she deserves everything she gets because she gives it as
good as she gets it. She's just not built for
the physicality of this league, and she's not freaking off
to get away from the physicality. So there's a lot
of learning curve, like Diana said, and when she gets it,
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she has elite skills that are going to really help her. Yeah,
but she needs to be on a better she needs
to be on a better team, and she needs to
be more experienced, and that will come. But for these
ridiculous fans who had her slotted as the next Diana
now through out of their mind, and and for these
people that are waiting outside the bus for the Chicago
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Sky team.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
What else?
Speaker 13 (28:43):
What it would become a third world soccer country that
when a soccer player gives up their own goal in
the World Cup, you're waiting for him in the bar
to shoot them, Like, what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
When Page Becker said she was coming back, you say what.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I said. I knew that.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
She's having too good a time here. Her impact here
is so great, her impact nationally is great, and she
doesn't want to be known as the greatest player ever
to play at Ukon without winning a national championship. And
I remind her that every day.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Does she have the bill to play in the WNBA? No? Okay?
Speaker 13 (29:30):
But her game is different. Her game is different than
Caitlin's in that she's more of a just a distributor,
get the ball, you know. Her game is more like
Sue Bird's game, all right, And not that Sue had
the physicality to play in that league.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
But obviously she's the best point guard ever.
Speaker 13 (29:56):
But I think her game, the subtleties of her game,
will translate however, her rookie year, she will get it
as bad as Caiton is getting it right now. Because
that's just the world, man, that's just the world. Then
you've got to learn to live with it. But yes,
she will have a target on her back as well.
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I just hope the social media thing, doesn't, you know,
envelop her like they've they've done to this kid. This kid,
she doesn't. This kid doesn't deserve all this. Nobody deserves
all this.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
And and how.
Speaker 13 (30:29):
About this, Dan, you and I have known each other
long enough, have you ever called the player on your
show a white We'll give someone the right to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I think McAfee would say, so that's the world. He
was trying to do it as a compliment. I guess
I think he was praising her. I don't know, Yeah
that's what he said.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I don't know, Yeah I didn't, okay.
Speaker 13 (30:55):
But just the fact that just the fact that we
live in a society where today you can't say that, Well,
if you look at society as a whole, there are
things that are being said that have never been allowed
to be said before. There was years ago when somebody
made a comment on TV or radar they lost their
job the next day. Well, we live in a society
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today where you can say anything, do anything and nothing,
just apologize and everything's okay.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Well right now sports is a reflection of that.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Keep fighting a good fight.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And sorry Hurley's taken away your headlines here with you
coming back?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Man, let me ask you something. Do you know something?
I don't know that he take the job.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
He's being targeted.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Woje said, wait, just walk down the hall and say, hey,
Danny taking a Laker job.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
You know my agent is his agent, Brett just and
just call him. No, I don't know. I'm not going
to do that.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Wait, you just asked me. You just asked me. You
can go get the answer here.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I Am going to go down the hall soon. What
the hell is going on here?
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Great to talk to you, Hey, congrats on the extension.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Thanks my man.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
That's geno Oriama unplugged, straight shooter.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Just the fact that he's with Danny Hurley last night
at an event and jokes with him about taking the
Lakers job and that he could win a couple of
championships there and Danny's got to bite his tongue like, wait,
does he know anything? And the fact that you're in
the basketball building, just walk down the hallway, Danny, you're
taking the Laker job. He's asking me what I know.
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I'm just reporting what Woje is reporting. People are going
to pick some things out of there, what he said
about Caitlin Clark. But if anybody's going to try to
argue with what he is saying about women's basketball, you're
not in his league. Because he's coached some of the
greats and he knows some can play in the WNBA,
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some can't.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
He said that she's on a bad team.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
She does have tremendous skill set, but she's physically not
built for this, at least right now. And he's being honest.
I've said this before. I need to see what she's
gonna be like next year, because now she knows every
time down the floor, there's gonna be an elbow, a forearm,
somebody's gonna bump you, somebody's gonna smack you, some stuff
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called some not. It's gonna happen. It is happening. I
do think maybe the last four or five six games,
you might see a different Caitlin Clark. It's been a
tough schedule, but they are out to be physical with her.
I mean, you're trying to win the game, you're gonna
be physical. Not to the point with you know, Kennedy
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Carter because there's no place in the game and she
should have been suspended. But there's going to be hard fouls.
Stuff that she got in Iowa that she's not gonna
get now you're not in Iowa anymore, and she knows that.
I think the less you say the better. Just take it,
learn from it, and then come back next year with
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a vengeance. All Right, We'll take a break. Fritzy has
six degrees of Lakers coming up. I do numerology. I
didn't know I needed it. I still don't know if
I need it, but I'll let you decide if you
need it. We'll have that for you coming up. Reggie
Miller in about forty minutes from now, as well. NBA
Finals starting tonight, and we'll get Reggie's thoughts on the possibility.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Of Danny Hurley coaching the Lakers. We're back after this.
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one of those where if you think the Lakers are
going to lose at home, this would be the game
that I would think because it would be all right,
we're waiting, they are on the road, not sure who's healthy,
(35:29):
who's playing, and then all of a sudden, Luca and
company they get going. Maybe Kyrie. Kyrie gets a rolling
as well. So that'll be coming up tonight. Reggie Miller,
the Hall of Famer, joining us on the program. Turner Sports,
NBA n List. All right, Danny Hurley to the Lakers
question Mark and your reaction is.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I like this coming out of the left field for
the Lakers.
Speaker 14 (35:55):
I think the prevailing thought, and from what everyone's been
talking about in reading, is that it was what JJ
Reddick's to lose, right, And I kind of like the
outside the box thinking from the Lakers here on Dan Hurley. Look,
the lasts scape of college basketball as we've known over
the last few years has changed because of Nil and
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I could see a lot of these coaches that are
the upper tier starting to look at the NBA a
little bit because of the changes, you know, coming down
in college athletics. I think this would be a great,
a fantastic hire for the Lakers if you could get
a chance to get Dan Hurley, because to me, not
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only is he a great Texes and O those guys,
but he is a development of men. And if you
watch any of their practices and see how they play,
their offense and their.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Defense is a lot like a pro offense.
Speaker 14 (36:55):
And you've got to be able to find players that
number one, are smart enough to be able to run it.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I think it would be a great hire. If Dan
Hurley is now, I don't know if he's looking for a.
Speaker 14 (37:06):
Bigger pay cut or a bigger payday from Yukon like
using this as leverage, But if he is serious about
coaching at the highest level, which is the NBA game,
this would be a fantastic leap for him. He has
nothing else to prove in college, back to back champions
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at Yukon, so he doesn't have anything to prove anymore.
The next step for him would be and how about this,
your first gig in a pro would.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Be the Lakers.
Speaker 14 (37:37):
Ye I mean, come on now, and coaching Lebron and
ad why not?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Okay, what's the down sign?
Speaker 14 (37:45):
It's the Lakers, And with that comes a lot of scrutiny.
Every single practice, every single game, every single press conference
becomes a big thing because number one, you're on the clock,
because you're on the clock because it's a countdown to
the of Lebron's career. He's probably going to retire a Laker,
So that takes a life and a meaning of its own.
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But again, there's always more plus size because you're playing
for a franchise with sixteen seventeen banners hanging in the rafters,
with all those Hall of Fame jerseys hanging up there
as well, that you can rely on. To me, there's
more pluses. I'm sure a lot of people in left
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field and be like, he has no NBA experience, what
is he doing? This is gonna be Rick Bettino and
John Calipari all over again. Maybe they're right, maybe so,
But I just think Dan Hurley would be a fantastic
fit for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Would Dan Hurley be better for Brownie James or Lebron James?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Maybe both.
Speaker 14 (38:51):
Look, there's no secret the Lakers in the second round
have what the fiftieth fifty second pick something like that.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I thank you, okay?
Speaker 14 (39:01):
And Lebron has made no secret that you also to
play with his son. I think you can achieve both
here as well as get Dan Hurley. Again, but this
is all about the bigger, the bigger James as opposed
to the smaller James.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Okay, but would you have a problem, as an established
veteran if Indiana would have brought in a college coach
like Brad Stevens would have left Butler, let's say at
the height of when he was there at Butler and
took over the Pacers, how would that go over with you,
Mark Jackson, the Davis Brothers, Rick Smith.
Speaker 14 (39:38):
If Brad Stevens would have had two championships behind him.
I mean, you can't fault what Dan Hurley has done.
And I think having those two back to back ships
and the success he's had a Yukon, I think that
gives him a little bit of a little bit of
a cacheme. If you're coming into the Lakers, and again,
if you if you watched Yukon, if you watch them playing,
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you've watched it is very sophisticated and I think it's
next level and I think that could be applied to
Lebron and aad and moving forward.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Can you explain that though, reg because I likened it
to the triangle offense that Phil had that he had
to get his players to buy in in Chicago and LA.
I don't know what this reincarnation of NBA offense, What
exactly is Dan Hurley teaching that can translate to the NBA.
Speaker 14 (40:32):
Well, his offense is a lot from the European teams.
He went over to Europe and really stole a lot
of their offense. It's a lot of cutting movie the
ball doesn't stick. And what I think in how it
can be applied and be great for the Lakers is
that you are going to be putting your two best
players Lebron an Ad with a shot slot running down.
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You're going to put them in actions to be successful.
And it's a lot like, as you mentioned, the triangle,
where it starts on one side, but your two players
have so much influence when the ball comes back to them.
Then being able to make a quick decision, which Lebron
and Ad do, and being able to score in traffic
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and make plays for others. Now they will have to
do a little bit more with a roster because they
don't have to find a little bit more shooting.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
That's something that the Lakers haven't had over the last
few years.
Speaker 14 (41:25):
They've got to find better shooting and probably an established
point guard to help run this offense as well.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
How do you think JJ Reddick feels today.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I don't think he's still out of the running here.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
These are just reports, but he was supposed to be
getting the job. It felt like a mere formality. Now
all of a sudden, you're getting dressed up for your
press conference and then they say, well, slow that down
a little bit, slow that down, don't put on the time.
Speaker 14 (41:51):
I think JJ has bigger things to think about with
the NBA Finals getting ready to start here for the
next two weeks or so.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
His head is kind of focused that way, but in
the back of his mind, sure, yes.
Speaker 14 (42:04):
I mean, now there's another player in the situation here,
and a guy, Dan Hurley, who's well established, who has
actually coached the team before. So yeah, I'm sure he's
not feeling great, but his name is still in the
running here.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
It's down with these two.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I would assume talking to Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer,
we have game one tonight in Boston. Dallas has been
a really good road team. What is the key to
being a really good road team?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
I think blocking out all the white noise.
Speaker 14 (42:35):
And you've got two guys on their team who really
don't care who can play at home, and it's just
as effective on the road, Luca and Kyrie. And it's interesting,
and I tell people this all the time. Luca has
played in more and bigger games overseas when he was
fifteen or sixteen turning pro in the EuroLeague.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
And if you've ever.
Speaker 14 (42:58):
Seen any of those those games and those fan bases
for those EuroLeague games, it makes our fans look like
Child's plays.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
So he's been in bigger environments.
Speaker 14 (43:12):
Yes, this is the NBA Finals and this is the
crowning jewel of basketball.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
But Luca has played in.
Speaker 14 (43:18):
Bigger games on the road in EuroLeague at a younger age,
so this is not going to face him. And with
Kyrie coming back to Boston, with everything that transpired on
his exodus, out him stopping on Lucky at center court
and all that, that just adds to the drama.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Kyrie won't be phased.
Speaker 14 (43:41):
And the rest of those Mavericks, they follow those two guys,
so I don't think being on the road is going
to phase them whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Do you think that Lebron really feels that Kyrie is
the most talented player, most gifted player, that he's more talented,
more gifted than Lebron is.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Yes, I mean.
Speaker 14 (44:04):
Obviously he played with him, he won a championship with him,
he saw him on an every day.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
But what does that mean gifted? I mean Lebron.
Speaker 14 (44:10):
Is in terms of ball handling, finishing, shooting, shot creating,
shot making.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I think he's adding all that into the mix here.
Speaker 14 (44:21):
Look, he's he's not six eight too, forty two thirty
and built like a tank, and you know has played
twenty one years. Lebron is a different breed too now.
But I think he's talking in terms of total package,
is ball handling and his shot making creating?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Is he more gifted than Steph?
Speaker 14 (44:45):
I think he's on the same level as Stefan in
terms of creativity with the basketball his shot making. Obviously,
Steph is to me a better shooter. But I would
put kind of re right up there.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
You know.
Speaker 14 (44:59):
I think in the comparison a lot of people are
saying is that he is a smaller version of Kobe Bryant.
I think a lot of people like to make that
comparison in terms of ball handling, being able to create
your own shot, being able to finish in difficult environments
in the paint, Kobe, Kyrie, even MJ a little bit.
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But though MJ wasn't handling like Kyrie, Kyrie is a
savant with the basketball.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Okay, how did the Celtics not win this series? French?
Speaker 14 (45:32):
Wow, it's theirs for the taking. But look to me,
this is all gonna come down to two things. How
does Celtics play Dallas in the pick and roll? Because
you only have three options. You're gonna blitz, you're gonna trap,
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you're gonna drop. Those are your only three options. And
which one all the three There's one that I would
do every single time, and that's blitz. I would blitz Luca.
I would blitz Kyrie and make those sinners, Dereck Lively,
Daniel Gafford, make them be playmakers. And if they find PJ. Washington,
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if they find Josh Green, if they find Derrick Jones
in the corner, and those dudes make shots, we were
gonna lose anyway. But if you drop or if you switch,
Luca and Kyrie are going to have a fields date.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
We've already seen the blueprint.
Speaker 14 (46:35):
We saw it versus OKC, and we certainly saw it
versus Minnesota when Rudy Gobert was trying to guard Luca
and the drop or you know, they were hard hedging
and we saw every single scenario and he destroyed them.
To me, blitz, get the ball out his hands and
make those sinners become playmakers.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
And if they make plays, they're gonna lose anyways.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
So be it wondering about this that I think Jokers
the best player in the world, but it felt like
he needed to win a title to have that official label.
And now you're the best player. If Luca wins the
title this year, now he hadn't won an MVP, but
it feels like he's on the verge of or people
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are waiting for him to be on the verge of
being the best player in basketball. Whether he is or not,
winning that title all of a sudden validates, authenticates you
would Luca be considered the best player in basketball if
Dallas wins the title.
Speaker 14 (47:34):
Daniel, and if you listen to Jason Kidd, he has
alluded and said this all along. He's like, the league
is actually giving you the keys to the kingdom, young man.
All you need to do is finished the job. And
by finishing the job, that's by winning the championship. And
think about the road that the Dallas Mavericks has has
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had to take to get to the NBA Finals. Maybe
to fifty plus win team in the Clippers, a fifty
plus win team and the number one seed OKC Thunder,
a fifty plus win team in Minnesota. Now you're going
against the juggernaut, the team that's tied with the most
NBA championships in the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
You're starting on the road once again. This is a
fourth seas series.
Speaker 14 (48:25):
That they will they will have started on the road
if they can find a way to win this. Yes,
he now becomes part of the face along with the Joker,
as the face of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
But you got to win the ship. You've got to
win the ship for that to happen.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
When you played in the NBA finals, I think Shack
was twenty seven, oh.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Man, now Kobe Wood nineteen or twenty, he was twenty one.
I think during the finals, damn you.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
Damn you.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
But here you go, here you go, here you go.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
You're going to make me feel a bad Yeah, theodo.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Okay, if I didn't face well, I haven't faced Shack.
You did Shack at twenty seven. What was that like
when you go into the finals and you know that
dude is he's omnipresident.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
He's there and he's not leaving.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
I'm telling you this. Larry Bird came to Mark Jackson
and I along with McCall al, was like, we have
no answer for Shock. We're not gonna have any answer
in this series.
Speaker 14 (49:31):
What we're gonna do, Sam Perkins, Rick Smit's, Dale Davis,
We're just we're just going to hack a Shack and
he's gonna have to make free throws. If you go
back and look and Paulie, I want you to look
this up as we're talking. I believe he averaged twenty
five to thirty free throws in that series. I believe
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Game one or Game two he may have shot forty
plus free throws. We were just gonna foul him, and
if he made free throws, great. We had no answers.
It was trying to stop the Rick Foxes, the Glitterizes,
the Kobe's everyone else. We felt then we had a shot,
but we had no answer because other than Willed, none
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of us played against Wilt, but really saw Will. He's
been the most dominant force in our game, and there
was no answer for him. So all we tried to
do was just hack a shacker.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
He averaged you know what he averaged in that series?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
Yeah, like thirty five eighteen five box.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
I think he averaged thirty eight and seventeen.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
I'll see, I'm look, I said thirty five and seventeen.
I'm sorry, shot thirty eight?
Speaker 6 (50:46):
What you said?
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Thirty eight thirty eighteen seventeen. How many blocks did he average?
Speaker 6 (50:50):
Ball three? Okay, only three?
Speaker 5 (50:52):
How many free throws did he average?
Speaker 8 (50:54):
Falling he shot? He attempted ninety three free throws in
six games, he shot thirty nine percent for the free
throw line.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
What's the most free throws he took in a game?
Reggie said he might have taken forty. I was at
those games.
Speaker 8 (51:10):
I have twenty two in a game.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
He shot.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
He didn't want a game two. Look at how many
free doll attempts did he shoot? Free door tempts?
Speaker 8 (51:19):
Not me, he didn't make twenty two in the whole playoffs.
I got Shack. Hold on, he attempted a hold on
this game.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Here, hold on, I'm telling you shot it might be right,
I don't. I remember he went to the line a
lot because I was at that series.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
But I'm telling you he shot throw.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
In game two, Shack was eighteen for thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
From the life, Thank.
Speaker 6 (51:49):
You, Regg.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
That's impossible to go eighteen of thirty nine.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Oh my, think about shooting thirty.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Well, no, if he could make free throws, then he
wouldn't have shot thirty nine free throws. The fact that
he couldn't is why he shot thirty nine free throws.
Speaker 6 (52:08):
Damn eighteen. Your son can shoot.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Better than Shaq did from the line, right, probably, Yes,
your wife could probably.
Speaker 6 (52:19):
Shoot better than Chack from the line.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
But We couldn't stop them down though.
Speaker 6 (52:26):
Oh no, oh my god. Shaq was only twenty six,
then twenty seven, twenty seven seven?
Speaker 5 (52:32):
Gee, what man? Those dudes should have stayed they could
have been well.
Speaker 14 (52:37):
They are considered one of the greatest duels of all time.
But just imagine if they would have stayed together a
few more games.
Speaker 6 (52:45):
Okay, we're talking. Best duo is Mike and Scotty.
Speaker 14 (52:51):
If you're going by Chips and and all that, you
got to put them up there. But I'm putting Kobe.
Kobe is shot man. They were different.
Speaker 5 (53:00):
I know I was.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Close to Okay, more dominating. Okay, who would scare you more?
You're going against Scotty and Mike or Shaq and Kobe.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
I went against them both, and they both beat my head.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
Okay, I will against them. Okay, But who would you
rather have faced?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
If I said you can pick you got Mike, and
you got Scottie, you got Shaq and Kobe.
Speaker 14 (53:24):
I still would want to face twenty seven year old
Shack and twenty one year old Kobe because he's still
a little green. Kobe was right. He grew into one
of the greatest of all time, but he was still
young when I faced him going against Mike and Scottie.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
They were they were already there, they were already at
the mountain top.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Great to talk to you. Always love you, man, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Who do you have?
Speaker 5 (53:56):
Who do you do have winning this NBA Finals? Uh?
Speaker 6 (54:00):
I have the Celtics, I have doubt.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
I have Dallas in six.
Speaker 6 (54:06):
Dallas is a great wether.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, if the Boston wins, then we finally put it
to bed and then we recognize this group for doing
something pretty incredible. If Dallas wins, you got the Kyrie story,
you got you got Luca's story, Jay kids store like it.
That's a better There's a lot more storylines I can
run with if Dallas wins. And then of course the
(54:29):
pressure that the MAVs winning puts on the Dallas Cowboys,
which is what everybody's going to jump to, that conclusion that.
Speaker 6 (54:37):
Yeah, yeah, come on, dad, Luca did it. Luca did it.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
That's up to you.
Speaker 6 (54:44):
All right, Thank you, reg We'll talk to you later.
Speaker 5 (54:47):
Appreciate your Theatore and my Dan Yet
Speaker 2 (54:49):
That's Reggie Miller, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports NBA analyst
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, we didn't see that when coming Welcome to the
program hour one on this Thursday, Dan and the Dance
Dan Patrick Show. The Lakers do have a coach in waiting,
it's just probably not the coach we thought who would
be in waiting. If you're just waking up WOJ with
a WOJ bomb that Danny Hurley is being targeted as
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the next head coach of the LA Lakers here, we
thought it was JJ Reddick. We're waiting until the NBA
Finals is over and then he would assume that position.
Not so fast. So once again I guess being targeted
according to WOJ. Usually when WOJ says that, it feels
like the contract talks are a little bit further down
the road, and I'm guessing if Danny Hurley is looking
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at what would be compensatory for me what I did
at Yukon now going to the Lakers. Lakers have been
historically cheap with some of their coaches here, and they
lost out on Tyloo because they didn't want to pony
up what the Clippers were willing to pay. He might
look around and go, I want what Tyloo's getting, or
I want what Eric Spolster is getting. Is it going
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to be you know, twelve million dollars fifteen million dollars
a year. That's something that Connecticut would not be able
to match because they're a stage school, not a private school.
But this, this was a well kept secret in a
town that doesn't keep secrets very well. Didn't even hear
a hey, you know what's crazy. Here's a wild rumor.
You know what I heard from somebody who talked to
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somebody who talked to somebody. Well, we didn't have any
of that. But Danny Hurley and the LA Lakers are
engaged in talks, or at least that's what I want
to be fair with the wording on this. Woe just
said targeting Danny Hurley. Now, I want to take you
back to April seventeenth, and Danny Hurley was on the
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show and I talked to him about the possibility of
leaving yukon what would make you leave Connecticut?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Maybe just burnout at this point for me, just uh,
you know, pushing too hard and probably you know, just
breaking down at some point, just uh, because you just
can't keep up the intensity and and the energy and
and you know, the output.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And then maybe down the road, if I could grow
up a little bit mature, you know, matrorel a little
bit with the emotions, maybe the NBA, you know, down
down the road.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
So why do you want to do that? Why do
you want to do that to yourself? Go to the NBA?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Well, you know, I think college has become like the
G League. Uh, you know, yeah in a way.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I mean it's uh, you know, not that's obviously tongue
in cheek, but you know, a lot of the college
game has changed. You know, you you you, you win
the national championship, and obviously we're gonna do things. Go
to White, do these we have the parade, you do
these things. But you're basically right into free agency frenzy.
So you know, it's I'm more worried about burnout that
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I am going to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So there's a lot of elements here in play. And
you hear all the time Lebron not involved in the
coaching search. He I know, has given a stamp of
approval to what Danny Hurley has done at Connecticut. I
think he's already responded to the possibility of Danny Hurley
going to the Lakers, Danny Hurley and his staff Bill
Murray's son Luke, they have really kind of reprogrammed college
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basketball with their approach on recruiting to style offensively, and
maybe this is something the Lakers looked at and said,
this isn't a two year play, this is a seven
year play. This is about the Lakers, not Lebron and
not Anthony Davis. This is about us as we move
forward as a franchise.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Now we have a coach who who we believe.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
In in developing players, and Hurley is very good at
doing that and he sees what others don't see. Now
his style is always what's going to be the curious
part for me, because he talked about burnout. Now you
have eighty two games, and you're going to have eighty
two games under a microscope like you've never had before.
(04:21):
Every you know, moment with Lebron or AD is going
to be amplified. You're not in stores Connecticut anymore. If
this does happen now you're with the Lakers, everything is
going to be magnified. Your style. We hear from Brian
Winhorst all the time. Wendy says Lebron loves to be coached. Okay,
you're going to be coached, and here you are at
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the end of your career and you got Anthony Davis.
They did not play Kate Lebron because that probably would
have been JJ Reddick JJ Reddick calling the finals, and
we thought, you know, this was just you know, mere formality.
He's going to do the NBA Finals once he's done
with his requirements with ESPN ABC, that he takes the
(05:03):
Laker job. You didn't hear anything about any possibility with
Danny Hurley, and that is surprising, but I think it's awesome.
I think if Danny Hurley wants that challenge and he's
you know, he's lived and coached, grew up on the
East Coast, and I think he'd always said, you know,
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remember we talked to him about the Kentucky job, and
it's like, no, my wife, no, we would. She didn't
want to leave, you know, the Tri state area, and
that's something you know, I'm sure this is part of
the negotiation of convincing her to go out to Los
Angeles to take that job. But you know, given the
state of college basketball, nil transfer portal, I mean, it
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used to be ad control. Now you don't have any control.
I mean, he can try, but let's say it doesn't
work out, if he goes to the Lakers, and maybe
after four years, he can always go back to college basketball.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
So I get it. I understand it. It's the next
challenge for him.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I mean, if you're at Yukon, you're sad if this happens,
but you also have to say, hey, thank you. I mean,
gave you back to back national titles. So there's something
to be said for everybody involved in this. With the Lakers,
with what they're doing, why they're doing it, Lebron, how
does this work with him? Ad how does this work
(06:23):
with him? And then Danny Hurley that style of what
you were doing at Connecticut. You know, he's like Mike
McDaniel with the Dolphins, like he's an innovator. He's trying
to come up with different concepts. This might be what
he runs, might be similar to the triangle offense as
far as this could be something that other teams try
to adopt, or you're trying to understand it. So many
(06:46):
different options, and the offense has been great. You know,
they dominated college basketball, outscoring their opponents by what close
to two hundred points. It felt like and then you
went back to back titles. So that's the big news
today day. Once again, Woje's reporting that the Lakers are
targeting Dan Hurley. And you know, if I'm looking at
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what is going to be security guaranteed contract, you know,
six seven, eight years, you know it would take that.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
You want me to run your organization?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
All right, then you got to pay me, and they're
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Speaker 6 (07:43):
Well?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
How much value do you put in the chance to
repeat pretty rare in college basketball? That's a once in
a generation, once in a lifetime opportunity. I'm trying to
think of reasons that Dan Hurley would stay at Yukon
because jumping to the Lakers for a crazy amount of money,
(08:04):
which we assume it would be, is almost like and
the stamp of approval from Lebron, you know, is.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Like just an insurmount. Why wouldn't you do that? Anybody
would do that?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I think the challenge, like everything about Danny Hurley
is a chip on his shoulder when he was playing
to when he was coaching, he still has a chip
on his shoulder, and he's probably going to say, all right,
you know, I'm the third most famous Hurley, my dad Bobby,
I'm going to be the most famous. And I think
that probably, you know, kind of feeds into who he
(08:36):
is and his personality.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Now you go to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
As far as staying, you know, you stay, You've created something.
Now you are the face of college basketball. But I
don't know what motivates him, what makes him tick.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yes, well that is the thing too that I think
about is that he was sort of born and raised
in basketball as a lot of people have, and their
family is much more famous for college bass basketball then
for professional basketball. Right, it certainly won't be his last
job offer, although I don't know how many times the
Lakers come calling, But just knowing that, or at least
(09:15):
thinking of him as a little bit of a college
basketball historian, the chance to three peat is pretty great.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I don't know what motivates him. Like for us,
you'd go, boy, that'd be awesome to three pete. You
know what would be more awesome to win a title
with the Lakers. One peating with the Lakers. Yes, just
one title, one pete. Yeah, nobody ever won peats.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
A singular pete with Lebron and the Lakers on his
way out.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, I'll do that all day. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock or streaming
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play of the day, stat of the day, all of
that coming forthcoming. And by the way, the NBA Finals
starting tonight. I wondered what the commissioner thinks of this
this morning where he's like, all right, yeah, all this
attention game won everybody excited?
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Wait, what's woad? You're reporting the lake. At least it's basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You imagine if it was an Aaron Rodgers story and
then all of a sudden, everybody would be you know,
that would be suffocating you. But get ready for a
healthy dose here because it's the Lakers and it's Lebron
it's not like he's going to the Bobcats. He's going
to the Lakers. If that's the case, Wow, and he's
going Yeah, that is accurate though, Yes it's the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
It's not the Bobcats. It's Lebron and the Lakers. Ad Well, Lebron, Yeah,
he is.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I know's see if he wants to be coached too, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
It's kind of sad. I was just thinking, if Danny
Hurley leaves college basketball a true character and basically the
face of college basketball, Nick Saban leaves college football a
couple months ago, Jim Harbaugh leaves college football a couple
months ago, and they're all going pro. I went and
look back. This is kind of comparable to Nick Saban
when he was in the middle of his run at Bama.
Every year there was a rumor about him being looked
(11:06):
at for the Cowboys job and it was never real.
You never found any reports, but there's always rumors. This
was the opposite. There was never rumors, just real.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, it's my job to think this way. Could this
be leverage for Danny Hurley with a new contract at Connecticut?
Could I just want to I got to look at
all angles here. Could it have started that way because
he's been looking for a contract extension all of a sudden.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
You know what's I.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Said I wouldn't take another college job, but I didn't
say I wouldn't go to the NBA. Right now, I
don't know if it's a leverage play. WOJ and Wendy
keep saying, Hey, this isn't a done deal yet they're
targeting him. Okay, I do have to look at sort
of what's been going on and is there a leverage play.
We taped an interview with Gino Oriema about forty five
(11:59):
minutes ago. I'm going to play it next hour, and
I'm going to tell you it's appointment listening.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
It is wild.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We touch on a variety of things, including a conversation
he had with Danny Hurley last night about taking.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
The Laker job.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
What are the odds that he spoke with Danny Hurley
last night not even knowing that Danny Hurley had been
talking or is talking or going to be talking to
the Lakers. He works down the hall from him. So, Gino,
the interview that we did last forty five minutes ago,
(12:37):
it'll be next hour at this time, and it is
must listen radio.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
We do talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Caitlyn Clark, the treatment of Kitlyn Clark as well, and
he's got some things to say about college basketball and
certainly on the men's side of where we are right now.
But Gino Oriema, who just signed the contract extension with
the Yukon women five year OD, he'll join us coming up.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Yes, Marvin, do you think the Lakers need Hurley Moore
or the hur or Hurley needs the Lakers more the.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Lakers need Hurley. There's no great coaching candidates out there.
I mean, there's no marquee name where you go, Jerry
West or pat Riley or Phil Jackson. Danny Hurley, he's
on the short list of most famous coaches in America.
And what he's done wherever he's gone, he wins. I
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mean there's a horrorball feel to him of hey, I'm here,
I'm there, I'm there, and everybody's a winner. And Harball
coaches this raw, raw college type way and Danny Hurley
coaches that way as well. But it's it's pretty shocking though.
But I would say the Lakers, if the Lakers get
get somebody, you know, you want stability. It's not you know,
(13:51):
who's the coach now, Well, he won't be coaching too
much longer.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
It's what I wondered about JJ Reddick. Would he be
a two year coach?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Because is Lebron going to play for two years and
then all of a sudden you change because you're going
to be in a rebuild Danny Hurley, and you know,
the Lakers aren't going, well, this would be good for us.
Five years down the road. They still think that they
can win, and rightfully so. And you have Lebron and
Ad and you should think you could win. But I
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think this is a bigger picture, bigger play for the
Lakers to say, we got a coach who's going to
have tenure, he's going to be respected, he's a bright mind,
and he's going to be the future, the current and
the future of our organization. But as far as Danny Hurley,
I mean, unless it's money, he could have stayed at
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Connecticut try for a three peak and you know, maybe
this is just you put it all in the blender
and you go, golle it's too good to pass up.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Yes, Marv stores Laguna Beach, same thing on a stage, Yeah,
it's all the same. Yes, don I know he just
won back to back titles.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
And we're not saying that Danny Hurley would be instantly
successful if he took the job. But is he going
to hear the same kind of things that JJ Reddick's
doing with Hey, he's never coached one game in the NBA.
Is Knowing going to state anything about Danny Hurley and
what he can do or not doing the pros?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
No? No, he proved it in college.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
You guys have proved that he's in college and then
there was a disaster in the pros well.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But I think because of that, because of what he's
did at Yukon, JJ Reddick hadn't coached at all. Danny
Hurley has coached young players and he's won back to
back titles. That's a pretty good resume to go into
the NBA. Now, we've had coaches. Jerry Tartanian didn't last
long when he went in to coach the Spurs. It
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was on this day, this is the anniversary of coach
k considering going in to coach the Lakers. There you
have Billy Donovan when Billy Donovan left Florida, Steve Spurrier
when he left Florida go to Washington, Nick Saban went
there's it's littered with that. But I think this is
a great hire by the Lakers. I love it now.
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If it happens, I think it's a great, great hire.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
I do.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And I think that's once again woje is saying this,
so is Windy. They're just they're targeting him now. It
feels like if WOJ is saying this, they're further down
the road. This is like woj is saying, hey, they're
targeting him, and then six six hours from now, it's like, yeah,
done deal, Yes, Seaton, you.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Know it's weird.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I bet that the one thing that might actually be
standing in the way of Dan Hurley taking this job
is lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yes, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I don't think he has any interest in moving a
portion of his family to Los Angeles. I think he
wants to stay right on the East Coast where he's
near his parents and he's near his family and.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
All the Jersey stuff they got going on. That's all real,
that's all very real. He wants to be right here.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's one of the biggest surprising parts of this, not
that he would be taking the job, interested that he
would leave the East Coast. All right, we'll take a
break once again, gino Oriama conversation we recorded a little
less than an hour ago. Reggie Miller will join us
as well as we preview Game one of the NBA
Finals just getting started. Who a lot to talk about
(17:13):
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Speaker 6 (18:05):
Fritzy has got a wild numerology. Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'll get to this coming up in a little bit there,
but there's a numerology going on with the Lakers and
Danny Hurley and JJ Reddick. So we'll have that for
you coming up here in a little bit. Two hours ago,
we talked to Gino Oriema before we started our show live,
and we wanted to talk to him. He signed a
(18:32):
contract extension, had some things to say about Caitlin Clark,
and then of course the Danny Hurley story falls into
our lap.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
So I tape.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The Geno interview and this is it in its entirety,
has not been edited, and it's just Geno being Geno
after signing a five year contract extension to stay as
the head coach of the Yukon Women. And I started
the interview by asking Geno his reaction to the Danny
Hurley to the Lakers.
Speaker 13 (19:01):
You know, this is really funny because I happened to
be with it at a thing with him last night,
and I have no idea what's going on, you know,
I have no idea where this is going or what's happening.
But I said, just leaned over and I said, hey,
I think you can win a lot of championships with
the Lakers, you know, more.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
So than a guy who's never coached.
Speaker 13 (19:23):
And he just looked at me, and you know, nodded
and we had a good laugh. And then this morning
I wake up and while off so I don't know
what's going on. And it'd be a bad day for
Yukon for sure if this happens, and it would be
a great, great day for Dan Hurley. And I'm sure
a bittersweet day for Dan Hurly.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, now you're being serious that you did bring this
up to him last night about the Lakers jump.
Speaker 13 (19:47):
Out of nowhere. I just leaned over and I said,
you know, I don't know why it came to me.
I don't know why, but I said it, and if
you ask him, I'll tell you. And I had no idea.
And I woke up this morning and somebody sent it
to me and I went, you got to be kidning me.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I know that he's talked about not going to another
college job that if he does go down the road
when he thinks he's mature enough to coach in the NBA.
This happened a lot quicker, But I'm wondering the state
at college basketball, certainly men's college basketball, GINO, Does that
make this decision a little bit more I guess palatable
(20:22):
or easier when you think about him wanting to go
to coach the NBA instead of trying to go for
a three peat, all those are true.
Speaker 13 (20:31):
I think the state of college basketball is a mess
anyone who if anybody could manage it, though, it would
be Danny because he coaches this program like it's a
high school program, like he coached the Saint Benedicts. Their
player development program is second to none. But I do
think that being at Yukon and given the state of
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college basketball and the amount of money now that it's
going to take to be able to put together a
national championship team every single year, I think, and without
knowing where it's going.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
It's a charade.
Speaker 13 (21:09):
It's this idea of student athlete, student athlete welfare. Every
single thing that comes out of the NCAA's mouth about
student athlete welfare, mental health, it's book that has no
factor ever anymore. And I never want to hear anybody
out of those words associated with college basketball. There are
professional athletes just not called that, So you might as
(21:31):
well go coach professional athletes where it's real. Now, if
Danny were to leave and somebody said to me, you know,
he just took this NBA job, I won't name any
particular city. I would say, you know, you're set up
for failure, but it's the Lakers. And if I don't
know the details of it, but if you're saying, hey,
I want a ten year to deal, I want the
same deal Brad Stevens got to Boston.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
It might be more than that.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Well, Dan, you know what, Hey, Andrea, his wife might
not like me, but it's crazy if he doesn't take it.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But that's what surprised me though, Gino is he's an
East Coast guy. Yeah, and he'd have to convince her
to go out, you know, to Rodeo drive.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Yeah, well that part she might not. She might not,
you know, she might not argue with it. Maybe all
the other parts you might have a problem with.
Speaker 13 (22:22):
But yeah, yeah, it's a it's a huge family. It's
a huge family decision.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
No question about how many offers have you had and
let's say the last fifteen years, ten years.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Well they all came too late.
Speaker 13 (22:35):
But you know, one, two, three, four total, including you know,
between men's college basketball and NBA stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
What was the men's what was the NBA stuff?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I talked to a.
Speaker 13 (22:56):
Couple of people about being an assistant when I thought
this game was going where it's going, and I thought, well,
I wish I was younger, because it was at an
age where it's like, do I really have it in
me to be that and be fair to that for
one hundred and some games if you're lucky enough during
(23:18):
the season. And I wouldn't be so pretentious enough to
think that I could go from where I am or
where I've been coaching women's basketball, and I listen, coaching
is coaching.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I get it.
Speaker 13 (23:31):
But the distance and the gap. I thought, you know what,
if I could be an assistant here for a couple
of years, three four years, I think I could do
this job. But it just came at the wrong time
in my career. But if I come earlier, I would.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Have done it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Talking to Gino Orima, the Hall of Fame head coach
with Connecticut and just signed a five year deal. Any
talk of retirement when you sat down with the family.
Now yet No, so you were signing extension. There was
no do I want to do it five more years?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
No, I'd already decided that I wanted to.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Now what pisses me off is that if I'd have
known that this was happening with Danny because I think
I gave them the old you know, AARP discount to
university because I thought they're going to have to pay
a lot of money to keep Hurly. Well, if he leaves,
I'm gonna be pissed and I'm going to rip up
that contract and I want to know one and I
want some of the money that they were going to
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give him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So just call it the Hurley clause. If Hurley leaves,
then you want a Hurley clause.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
That's right.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
I'm envisioning the Hurley clause. And this might become, you know,
a commonplace in college sports.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know if you use it as leverage, but
you can always say, hey, I'll just coach the men's
team at Yukon if you're not going to give me
this kind of money.
Speaker 13 (24:45):
No, I would never do that, you know. I'd be
like moving your shortstop to second base. You'd screw up
both programs.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So no talk of retirement.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You're going to be what seventy five when this is
all said and done, supposedly.
Speaker 13 (24:57):
You know, but you know what really motivated me when
Pops signs his new deal.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So pop yeah, but Popovich with Wemben Yama I'm sure
he's like, you know what, let me hang around this
guy for a little longer.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Okay, well, I think I got a couple of guys
in my program that I want to hang around with
a couple a couple of years long. And I actually, seriously,
when Pop signed this deal, I said, you know what,
I'm going to go to my I D and said,
I want.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Half of that.
Speaker 13 (25:22):
He signed for ten years for eighty million or five
years for eighty million. I said, I've signed five years
for twenty million. But didn't play out.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
But actually did they played out exactly that way?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Actually, good, I saw where you said the WNBA they're
targeting Caitlin Clark. What do you mean by how she's
being guarded or you know, in force?
Speaker 13 (25:45):
I think yeah, I think you and I both know
the landscape that we live in today, both sports wise
and non sports wise. Right, we are in a red
blue and if you're red, you can't agree with blue,
and if you're blue, you can't agree with red, Whereas
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most things are in the middle. If you're a college player,
and you're a great college player, like Caitlin was, the
delusional fan base that follows her disrespected the WNBA players
by saying she's going to go in that league and
tear it apart. There were actually odds on what are like,
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she's third or fourth embedting odds of being MVP at
a WNBA. These people are so disrespectful and so unknowledgeable
and so stupid that it gives women's basketball a bad name. Okay,
so the kid was set up for failure right from
the beginning. So if you're a WNBA player, and I
believe me, I've coached the best and I've pissed them
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off a lot, and they let me know about it.
But they were tremendously disrespected and none of them are
going to say it. But human nature is okay, this
kid's coming into the league, and Diana said it best.
This kid's in for a rude awakening. And they all
jumped over her. But they didn't read the whole thing
that she said. But nobody's printing. You know, Diana Trassi
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was right. This kid's on the wrong team. She's got
the wrong skill set. They handled the physicality of that league.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
And she's a rookie.
Speaker 13 (27:19):
And if you're a WNBA player, if you're any kind
of player, you're gonna say I'm gonna make a statement. Targeted,
targeted by society, targeted by her looks, targeted by her reputation,
targeted by the disrespect that they've shown to the WNBA.
There's a huge target on this kid's back. I thought
Cameron Bring said something really smart. She said, now they're
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expecting this rookie class to be perfect. This rookie class
isn't even one of the best rookie classes in the
last ten years, but they've been put out to be
that because the way social media is today. So what
kind of impact is this rookie class having in a WNBA.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
How do you think Clark is handling this.
Speaker 13 (27:59):
I think she's hand and great. I think she talks
a lot and she gets a lot of back. So
she deserves everything she gets because she gives it as
good as she gets it. She's just not built for
the physicality of this league, and she's not freaking off
to get away from the physicality. So there's a lot
of learning curve, like Diana said, and when she gets it,
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she has elite skills that are going to really help her. Yeah,
but she needs to be on a better she needs
to be on a better team, and she needs to
be more experienced, and that will come. But for these
ridiculous fans who had her slotted as the next Diana
now through out of their mind, and and for these
people that are waiting outside the bus for the Chicago
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Sky team.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
What else?
Speaker 13 (28:43):
What it would become a third world soccer country that
when a soccer player gives up their own goal in
the World Cup, you're waiting for him in the bar
to shoot them, Like, what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
When Page Becker said she was coming back, you say what.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I said. I knew that.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
She's having too good a time here. Her impact here
is so great, her impact nationally is great, and she
doesn't want to be known as the greatest player ever
to play at Ukon without winning a national championship. And
I remind her that every day.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Does she have the bill to play in the WNBA? No? Okay?
Speaker 13 (29:30):
But her game is different. Her game is different than
Caitlin's in that she's more of a just a distributor,
get the ball, you know. Her game is more like
Sue Bird's game, all right, And not that Sue had
the physicality to play in that league.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
But obviously she's the best point guard ever.
Speaker 13 (29:56):
But I think her game, the subtleties of her game,
will translate however, her rookie year, she will get it
as bad as Caiton is getting it right now. Because
that's just the world, man, that's just the world. Then
you've got to learn to live with it. But yes,
she will have a target on her back as well.
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I just hope the social media thing, doesn't, you know,
envelop her like they've they've done to this kid. This kid,
she doesn't. This kid doesn't deserve all this. Nobody deserves
all this.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
And and how.
Speaker 13 (30:29):
About this, Dan, you and I have known each other
long enough, have you ever called the player on your
show a white We'll give someone the right to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I think McAfee would say, so that's the world. He
was trying to do it as a compliment. I guess
I think he was praising her. I don't know, Yeah
that's what he said.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I don't know, Yeah I didn't, okay.
Speaker 13 (30:55):
But just the fact that just the fact that we
live in a society where today you can't say that, Well,
if you look at society as a whole, there are
things that are being said that have never been allowed
to be said before. There was years ago when somebody
made a comment on TV or radar they lost their
job the next day. Well, we live in a society
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today where you can say anything, do anything and nothing,
just apologize and everything's okay.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Well right now sports is a reflection of that.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Keep fighting a good fight.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And sorry Hurley's taken away your headlines here with you
coming back?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Man, let me ask you something. Do you know something?
I don't know that he take the job.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
He's being targeted.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Woje said, wait, just walk down the hall and say, hey,
Danny taking a Laker job.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
You know my agent is his agent, Brett just and
just call him. No, I don't know. I'm not going
to do that.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Wait, you just asked me. You just asked me. You
can go get the answer here.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I Am going to go down the hall soon. What
the hell is going on here?
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Great to talk to you, Hey, congrats on the extension.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Thanks my man.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
That's geno Oriama unplugged, straight shooter.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Just the fact that he's with Danny Hurley last night
at an event and jokes with him about taking the
Lakers job and that he could win a couple of
championships there and Danny's got to bite his tongue like, wait,
does he know anything? And the fact that you're in
the basketball building, just walk down the hallway, Danny, you're
taking the Laker job. He's asking me what I know.
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I'm just reporting what Woje is reporting. People are going
to pick some things out of there, what he said
about Caitlin Clark. But if anybody's going to try to
argue with what he is saying about women's basketball, you're
not in his league. Because he's coached some of the
greats and he knows some can play in the WNBA,
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some can't.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
He said that she's on a bad team.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
She does have tremendous skill set, but she's physically not
built for this, at least right now. And he's being honest.
I've said this before. I need to see what she's
gonna be like next year, because now she knows every
time down the floor, there's gonna be an elbow, a forearm,
somebody's gonna bump you, somebody's gonna smack you, some stuff
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called some not. It's gonna happen. It is happening. I
do think maybe the last four or five six games,
you might see a different Caitlin Clark. It's been a
tough schedule, but they are out to be physical with her.
I mean, you're trying to win the game, you're gonna
be physical. Not to the point with you know, Kennedy
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Carter because there's no place in the game and she
should have been suspended. But there's going to be hard fouls.
Stuff that she got in Iowa that she's not gonna
get now you're not in Iowa anymore, and she knows that.
I think the less you say the better. Just take it,
learn from it, and then come back next year with
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a vengeance. All Right, We'll take a break. Fritzy has
six degrees of Lakers coming up. I do numerology. I
didn't know I needed it. I still don't know if
I need it, but I'll let you decide if you
need it. We'll have that for you coming up. Reggie
Miller in about forty minutes from now, as well. NBA
Finals starting tonight, and we'll get Reggie's thoughts on the possibility.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Of Danny Hurley coaching the Lakers. We're back after this.
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that I would think because it would be all right,
we're waiting, they are on the road, not sure who's healthy,
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who's playing, and then all of a sudden, Luca and
company they get going. Maybe Kyrie. Kyrie gets a rolling
as well. So that'll be coming up tonight. Reggie Miller,
the Hall of Famer, joining us on the program. Turner Sports,
NBA n List. All right, Danny Hurley to the Lakers
question Mark and your reaction is.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I like this coming out of the left field for
the Lakers.
Speaker 14 (35:55):
I think the prevailing thought, and from what everyone's been
talking about in reading, is that it was what JJ
Reddick's to lose, right, And I kind of like the
outside the box thinking from the Lakers here on Dan Hurley. Look,
the lasts scape of college basketball as we've known over
the last few years has changed because of Nil and
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I could see a lot of these coaches that are
the upper tier starting to look at the NBA a
little bit because of the changes, you know, coming down
in college athletics. I think this would be a great,
a fantastic hire for the Lakers if you could get
a chance to get Dan Hurley, because to me, not
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only is he a great Texes and O those guys,
but he is a development of men. And if you
watch any of their practices and see how they play,
their offense and their.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Defense is a lot like a pro offense.
Speaker 14 (36:55):
And you've got to be able to find players that
number one, are smart enough to be able to run it.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
I think it would be a great hire. If Dan
Hurley is now, I don't know if he's looking for a.
Speaker 14 (37:06):
Bigger pay cut or a bigger payday from Yukon like
using this as leverage, But if he is serious about
coaching at the highest level, which is the NBA game,
this would be a fantastic leap for him. He has
nothing else to prove in college, back to back champions
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at Yukon, so he doesn't have anything to prove anymore.
The next step for him would be and how about this,
your first gig in a pro would.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Be the Lakers.
Speaker 14 (37:37):
Ye I mean, come on now, and coaching Lebron and
ad why not?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Okay, what's the down sign?
Speaker 14 (37:45):
It's the Lakers, And with that comes a lot of scrutiny.
Every single practice, every single game, every single press conference
becomes a big thing because number one, you're on the clock,
because you're on the clock because it's a countdown to
the of Lebron's career. He's probably going to retire a Laker,
So that takes a life and a meaning of its own.
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But again, there's always more plus size because you're playing
for a franchise with sixteen seventeen banners hanging in the rafters,
with all those Hall of Fame jerseys hanging up there
as well, that you can rely on. To me, there's
more pluses. I'm sure a lot of people in left
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field and be like, he has no NBA experience, what
is he doing? This is gonna be Rick Bettino and
John Calipari all over again. Maybe they're right, maybe so,
But I just think Dan Hurley would be a fantastic
fit for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Would Dan Hurley be better for Brownie James or Lebron James?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Maybe both.
Speaker 14 (38:51):
Look, there's no secret the Lakers in the second round
have what the fiftieth fifty second pick something like that.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I thank you, okay?
Speaker 14 (39:01):
And Lebron has made no secret that you also to
play with his son. I think you can achieve both
here as well as get Dan Hurley. Again, but this
is all about the bigger, the bigger James as opposed
to the smaller James.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Okay, but would you have a problem, as an established
veteran if Indiana would have brought in a college coach
like Brad Stevens would have left Butler, let's say at
the height of when he was there at Butler and
took over the Pacers, how would that go over with you,
Mark Jackson, the Davis Brothers, Rick Smith.
Speaker 14 (39:38):
If Brad Stevens would have had two championships behind him.
I mean, you can't fault what Dan Hurley has done.
And I think having those two back to back ships
and the success he's had a Yukon, I think that
gives him a little bit of a little bit of
a cacheme. If you're coming into the Lakers, and again,
if you if you watched Yukon, if you watch them playing,
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you've watched it is very sophisticated and I think it's
next level and I think that could be applied to
Lebron and aad and moving forward.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Can you explain that though, reg because I likened it
to the triangle offense that Phil had that he had
to get his players to buy in in Chicago and LA.
I don't know what this reincarnation of NBA offense, What
exactly is Dan Hurley teaching that can translate to the NBA.
Speaker 14 (40:32):
Well, his offense is a lot from the European teams.
He went over to Europe and really stole a lot
of their offense. It's a lot of cutting movie the
ball doesn't stick. And what I think in how it
can be applied and be great for the Lakers is
that you are going to be putting your two best
players Lebron an Ad with a shot slot running down.
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You're going to put them in actions to be successful.
And it's a lot like, as you mentioned, the triangle,
where it starts on one side, but your two players
have so much influence when the ball comes back to them.
Then being able to make a quick decision, which Lebron
and Ad do, and being able to score in traffic
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and make plays for others. Now they will have to
do a little bit more with a roster because they
don't have to find a little bit more shooting.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
That's something that the Lakers haven't had over the last
few years.
Speaker 14 (41:25):
They've got to find better shooting and probably an established
point guard to help run this offense as well.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
How do you think JJ Reddick feels today.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I don't think he's still out of the running here.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
These are just reports, but he was supposed to be
getting the job. It felt like a mere formality. Now
all of a sudden, you're getting dressed up for your
press conference and then they say, well, slow that down
a little bit, slow that down, don't put on the time.
Speaker 14 (41:51):
I think JJ has bigger things to think about with
the NBA Finals getting ready to start here for the
next two weeks or so.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
His head is kind of focused that way, but in
the back of his mind, sure, yes.
Speaker 14 (42:04):
I mean, now there's another player in the situation here,
and a guy, Dan Hurley, who's well established, who has
actually coached the team before. So yeah, I'm sure he's
not feeling great, but his name is still in the
running here.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
It's down with these two.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I would assume talking to Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer,
we have game one tonight in Boston. Dallas has been
a really good road team. What is the key to
being a really good road team?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
I think blocking out all the white noise.
Speaker 14 (42:35):
And you've got two guys on their team who really
don't care who can play at home, and it's just
as effective on the road, Luca and Kyrie. And it's interesting,
and I tell people this all the time. Luca has
played in more and bigger games overseas when he was
fifteen or sixteen turning pro in the EuroLeague.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
And if you've ever.
Speaker 14 (42:58):
Seen any of those those games and those fan bases
for those EuroLeague games, it makes our fans look like
Child's plays.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
So he's been in bigger environments.
Speaker 14 (43:12):
Yes, this is the NBA Finals and this is the
crowning jewel of basketball.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
But Luca has played in.
Speaker 14 (43:18):
Bigger games on the road in EuroLeague at a younger age,
so this is not going to face him. And with
Kyrie coming back to Boston, with everything that transpired on
his exodus, out him stopping on Lucky at center court
and all that, that just adds to the drama.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Kyrie won't be phased.
Speaker 14 (43:41):
And the rest of those Mavericks, they follow those two guys,
so I don't think being on the road is going
to phase them whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Do you think that Lebron really feels that Kyrie is
the most talented player, most gifted player, that he's more talented,
more gifted than Lebron is.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Yes, I mean.
Speaker 14 (44:04):
Obviously he played with him, he won a championship with him,
he saw him on an every day.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
But what does that mean gifted? I mean Lebron.
Speaker 14 (44:10):
Is in terms of ball handling, finishing, shooting, shot creating,
shot making.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I think he's adding all that into the mix here.
Speaker 14 (44:21):
Look, he's he's not six eight too, forty two thirty
and built like a tank, and you know has played
twenty one years. Lebron is a different breed too now.
But I think he's talking in terms of total package,
is ball handling and his shot making creating?
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Is he more gifted than Steph?
Speaker 14 (44:45):
I think he's on the same level as Stefan in
terms of creativity with the basketball his shot making. Obviously,
Steph is to me a better shooter. But I would
put kind of re right up there.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
You know.
Speaker 14 (44:59):
I think in the comparison a lot of people are
saying is that he is a smaller version of Kobe Bryant.
I think a lot of people like to make that
comparison in terms of ball handling, being able to create
your own shot, being able to finish in difficult environments
in the paint, Kobe, Kyrie, even MJ a little bit.
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But though MJ wasn't handling like Kyrie, Kyrie is a
savant with the basketball.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Okay, how did the Celtics not win this series? French?
Speaker 14 (45:32):
Wow, it's theirs for the taking. But look to me,
this is all gonna come down to two things. How
does Celtics play Dallas in the pick and roll? Because
you only have three options. You're gonna blitz, you're gonna trap,
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you're gonna drop. Those are your only three options. And
which one all the three There's one that I would
do every single time, and that's blitz. I would blitz Luca.
I would blitz Kyrie and make those sinners, Dereck Lively,
Daniel Gafford, make them be playmakers. And if they find PJ. Washington,
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if they find Josh Green, if they find Derrick Jones
in the corner, and those dudes make shots, we were
gonna lose anyway. But if you drop or if you switch,
Luca and Kyrie are going to have a fields date.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
We've already seen the blueprint.
Speaker 14 (46:35):
We saw it versus OKC, and we certainly saw it
versus Minnesota when Rudy Gobert was trying to guard Luca
and the drop or you know, they were hard hedging
and we saw every single scenario and he destroyed them.
To me, blitz, get the ball out his hands and
make those sinners become playmakers.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
And if they make plays, they're gonna lose anyways.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
So be it wondering about this that I think Jokers
the best player in the world, but it felt like
he needed to win a title to have that official label.
And now you're the best player. If Luca wins the
title this year, now he hadn't won an MVP, but
it feels like he's on the verge of or people
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are waiting for him to be on the verge of
being the best player in basketball. Whether he is or not,
winning that title all of a sudden validates, authenticates you
would Luca be considered the best player in basketball if
Dallas wins the title.
Speaker 14 (47:34):
Daniel, and if you listen to Jason Kidd, he has
alluded and said this all along. He's like, the league
is actually giving you the keys to the kingdom, young man.
All you need to do is finished the job. And
by finishing the job, that's by winning the championship. And
think about the road that the Dallas Mavericks has has
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had to take to get to the NBA Finals. Maybe
to fifty plus win team in the Clippers, a fifty
plus win team and the number one seed OKC Thunder,
a fifty plus win team in Minnesota. Now you're going
against the juggernaut, the team that's tied with the most
NBA championships in the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
You're starting on the road once again. This is a
fourth seas series.
Speaker 14 (48:25):
That they will they will have started on the road
if they can find a way to win this. Yes,
he now becomes part of the face along with the Joker,
as the face of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
But you got to win the ship. You've got to
win the ship for that to happen.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
When you played in the NBA finals, I think Shack
was twenty seven, oh.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
Man, now Kobe Wood nineteen or twenty, he was twenty one.
I think during the finals, damn you.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
Damn you.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
But here you go, here you go, here you go.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
You're going to make me feel a bad Yeah, theodo.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Okay, if I didn't face well, I haven't faced Shack.
You did Shack at twenty seven. What was that like
when you go into the finals and you know that
dude is he's omnipresident.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
He's there and he's not leaving.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
I'm telling you this. Larry Bird came to Mark Jackson
and I along with McCall al, was like, we have
no answer for Shock. We're not gonna have any answer
in this series.
Speaker 14 (49:31):
What we're gonna do, Sam Perkins, Rick Smit's, Dale Davis,
We're just we're just going to hack a Shack and
he's gonna have to make free throws. If you go
back and look and Paulie, I want you to look
this up as we're talking. I believe he averaged twenty
five to thirty free throws in that series. I believe
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Game one or Game two he may have shot forty
plus free throws. We were just gonna foul him, and
if he made free throws, great. We had no answers.
It was trying to stop the Rick Foxes, the Glitterizes,
the Kobe's everyone else. We felt then we had a shot,
but we had no answer because other than Willed, none
(50:17):
of us played against Wilt, but really saw Will. He's
been the most dominant force in our game, and there
was no answer for him. So all we tried to
do was just hack a shacker.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
He averaged you know what he averaged in that series?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
Yeah, like thirty five eighteen five box.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
I think he averaged thirty eight and seventeen.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
I'll see, I'm look, I said thirty five and seventeen.
I'm sorry, shot thirty eight?
Speaker 6 (50:46):
What you said?
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Thirty eight thirty eighteen seventeen. How many blocks did he average?
Speaker 6 (50:50):
Ball three? Okay, only three?
Speaker 5 (50:52):
How many free throws did he average?
Speaker 8 (50:54):
Falling he shot? He attempted ninety three free throws in
six games, he shot thirty nine percent for the free
throw line.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
What's the most free throws he took in a game?
Reggie said he might have taken forty. I was at
those games.
Speaker 8 (51:10):
I have twenty two in a game.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
He shot.
Speaker 5 (51:14):
He didn't want a game two. Look at how many
free doll attempts did he shoot? Free door tempts?
Speaker 8 (51:19):
Not me, he didn't make twenty two in the whole playoffs.
I got Shack. Hold on, he attempted a hold on
this game.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Here, hold on, I'm telling you shot it might be right,
I don't. I remember he went to the line a
lot because I was at that series.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
But I'm telling you he shot throw.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
In game two, Shack was eighteen for thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
From the life, Thank.
Speaker 6 (51:49):
You, Regg.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
That's impossible to go eighteen of thirty nine.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Oh my, think about shooting thirty.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Well, no, if he could make free throws, then he
wouldn't have shot thirty nine free throws. The fact that
he couldn't is why he shot thirty nine free throws.
Speaker 6 (52:08):
Damn eighteen. Your son can shoot.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Better than Shaq did from the line, right, probably, Yes,
your wife could probably.
Speaker 6 (52:19):
Shoot better than Chack from the line.
Speaker 5 (52:22):
But We couldn't stop them down though.
Speaker 6 (52:26):
Oh no, oh my god. Shaq was only twenty six,
then twenty seven, twenty seven seven?
Speaker 5 (52:32):
Gee, what man? Those dudes should have stayed they could
have been well.
Speaker 14 (52:37):
They are considered one of the greatest duels of all time.
But just imagine if they would have stayed together a
few more games.
Speaker 6 (52:45):
Okay, we're talking. Best duo is Mike and Scotty.
Speaker 14 (52:51):
If you're going by Chips and and all that, you
got to put them up there. But I'm putting Kobe.
Kobe is shot man. They were different.
Speaker 5 (53:00):
I know I was.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Close to Okay, more dominating. Okay, who would scare you more?
You're going against Scotty and Mike or Shaq and Kobe.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
I went against them both, and they both beat my head.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
Okay, I will against them. Okay, But who would you
rather have faced?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
If I said you can pick you got Mike, and
you got Scottie, you got Shaq and Kobe.
Speaker 14 (53:24):
I still would want to face twenty seven year old
Shack and twenty one year old Kobe because he's still
a little green. Kobe was right. He grew into one
of the greatest of all time, but he was still
young when I faced him going against Mike and Scottie.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
They were they were already there, they were already at
the mountain top.
Speaker 6 (53:51):
Great to talk to you. Always love you, man, I
appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Who do you have?
Speaker 5 (53:56):
Who do you do have winning this NBA Finals? Uh?
Speaker 6 (54:00):
I have the Celtics, I have doubt.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
I have Dallas in six.
Speaker 6 (54:06):
Dallas is a great wether.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, if the Boston wins, then we finally put it
to bed and then we recognize this group for doing
something pretty incredible. If Dallas wins, you got the Kyrie story,
you got you got Luca's story, Jay kids store like it.
That's a better There's a lot more storylines I can
run with if Dallas wins. And then of course the
(54:29):
pressure that the MAVs winning puts on the Dallas Cowboys,
which is what everybody's going to jump to, that conclusion that.
Speaker 6 (54:37):
Yeah, yeah, come on, dad, Luca did it. Luca did it.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
That's up to you.
Speaker 6 (54:44):
All right, Thank you, reg We'll talk to you later.
Speaker 5 (54:47):
Appreciate your Theatore and my Dan Yet
Speaker 2 (54:49):
That's Reggie Miller, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports NBA analyst
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