June 10, 2024 • 49 mins
On today’s Dan Patrick Show, DP recaps Game 2 on the NBA Finals. What does Dallas need to do to come back in this series? Plus, Dan shares his reaction to Caitlin Clark reportedly getting left off the US Olympic team, and Jim Jackson explains how the Celtics are causing a matchup nightmare for the Mavs.
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Play the Day Question and of course Stats of the
Day all of that forthcoming, Danny Hurley, will he decide today?
Woade said it could happen his earliest today because it
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can't happen any earlier than that. But is it Connecticut?
Is it the Lakers? I said on Friday. If he
comes back home without an agreement, then I think he's
more than likely to be staying with Connecticut. I have
no inside knowledge on this, but I know how these
things work. You're out there, everything's great. They're telling you
all these things. There's one hundred million dollars there. It's
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all guaranteed. All you got to do is sign on
the dotted line. Hmmm, let me go back home and
think about it. That's not what you want. But maybe
maybe he just goes back home to say to his
wife and kids and dad and his mom, everything's good.
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address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it dp show. So
the Celtics over the maps one five to ninety eight,
and we know the numbers. Trying to come back from
a two to oh deficit doesn't bode well for the Dallas.
Mavericks ays, the series now goes to Dallas, but the
Celtics win it, and the Celtics have won their last
playoff series, six of them when taking a two to lead,
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and the first team to have five or more players
with at least thirty points through the first two games
in the NBA Finals. Last time this happened was nineteen
eighty seven Lakers. I believe she had Worthy and Byron Scott, Kareem,
Michael Cooper and Magic. You have a balanced attack here.
We said when the series started that Dallas had to
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have a third person. Well, they need a second person
because Kyrie has not played well at all. Now Luca's
getting you thirty and I said, it'll give you a
triple double. But that's not good enough if Kyrie is
not going to hit from three point range. The team
is two for seventeen. You just don't have a chance
against a Boston team that hasn't had to play great basketball.
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You had Christops Forzingis in game one, Drew Holliday game two,
Derek White in there. You're not even saying, hey, Tatum
and Brown, you got to put up big numbers. They
haven't done that yet. This is a balanced team. What
is underrated is their defense. They have a variety of
players who can guard a variety of players. Now, you're
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not going to stop Luca. You can only hope to
contain him. But they have stopped Kyrie, they have contained him. PJ. Washington,
you know you're going to need a superhuman effort by
Luca and Kyrie to try to come back and win
four the next five. But I'm not going to say
it's not possible. Because I've been doing this a long time.
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You can never say never. It's not something that I do.
But the odds are really, really, really long that you're
going to be able to do it because I now,
granted you can say, hey, Dallas has kind of been
in these games. Certainly last night they were in the game. Yeah,
they're in the game, but I never feel like they're
going to win the game. There's a difference in that
they're kind of there. If you're looking at the overall
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tone of the game, it's Boston and I'm still waiting
for maybe that team effort. And of course, if you
don't get it in game three, then pretty much say
good night here.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
All right?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Pull question Seaton if you watch too just how much
Luca and Kyrie have to work for every single shot?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
May they must be exhausted. I mean every single one
is like some kind of like isolation. Go this, go it,
cut in, cut back, dude that just to get a
fade away that maybe they hit man, they just must
be wiped.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, you could see and Paul texts this to us
last night in the group check text that he's gassed.
He was gassed. Now nine minutes to go. You could
see where Luca was like. Plus he didn't even go
down at the other end of the floor. He got
knocked down and then he's like, I'll get you guys
when you come back up here. But yeah, he's working
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a lot more and he's not healthy now. The ball
over a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, it's got to be tough too to be like
those two dudes and just look around and be like,
can one of you guys just hit a couple shots please?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, haven't had it yet. And granted you could look
at the margin of victory and go all right, you know,
hit a couple of threes, yes, but they're not hitting
those threes and it almost feels like sometimes they're too
wide open or they're they're so contested. It's one or
the other.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
There.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Meanwhile, with Boston, Drew Holidays wide open, they're like, all right,
we're gonna check Tatum and Brown. Let me see if
you can hit those big shots. And he has. Drew
Holliday played really well, has played really well. Throw in
Derek White playing great defense. I mean, it's just a
balanced attack. Now, poor zingis not sure. He says he's
playing in Game three. Got re injured again last night.
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But you know, now we got to see the best
of Dallas has to offer. Here is the Boston Celtics
head coach Joe Missoula on the individual players on Boston.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I'm really tired of hearing about one guy or this
guy or that guy, and everybody trying to make it
out to be anything other than Celtic basketball. And everybody
that plays stepped down that court tonight made winning plays
on both ends of the floorest the most important thing, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And then Jason Tatum. He was asked about Jason Kidd
talking about who's the best player on the Celtics, and
Jay Kidd said it was Jalen Brown. Where here's Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I've been there before and we didn't win, and it's
just like, you know, we're so close to what we're
trying to accomplish. Why would I let my ego or
full of my need to score all the points to
get in the way of that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, I'm fine with that. I don't know if Jay
Kid goes go down in my lab here, what can
I do? I'm going to create some controversy.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Wow, how about this.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm going to say Jalen Brown is the best player
on the Celtics. Okay, you could say that he is
playing the best on the Celtics. Maybe he's not the
best player because Ryan Scalabrini, former NBA player, joined us
on Friday and he does thee he's a Celtics analyst,
and he said, no, No, Jayson Tatum's the best player
because he's taken the best defender. Usually there's going to
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be two guys on him. Everybody else has the opportunity
to then have an easier way either to the hoop
or hitting jumpers there. So Jason Tatum, you know, Tatum
has had just a nice series so far, hasn't had
to do anything crazy, and Jalen Brown same way. You
haven't had to have a monster game out of anybody yet.
(07:41):
But you will but I think Jay Kidd trying to
get into the Celtics head of how about this, I'm
going to have those two they'll be rivals on the
same team. That'll do it. Maybe not, Yes, mar.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
This feels like if the Celtics pull out this championship,
it's going to be in ten years, Hey Tatum w MVP. Right, No, no, no,
Joe Holliday, dude, really it's gonna be like that, like
Iguadala that one year, not Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, but Boston's played well, but Boston's a better team
than Dallas. I think we get caught up in there's
wishful you know, reporting, wishful rooting. If you don't have
a dog in the fight, you're like, man, I'd like
to see Dallas Luca Kyrie. That'd be fun. Okay, Denver
would have been a better matchup with the Celtics. I
(08:28):
know it's only two games, but I said from the outset,
Boston is a better team and that's why they were
going to win.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes, that's going to be one of those things too.
When it's like Tatum's up for the Hall of Fame
and never won a finals MVP, that's where it comes
back where you're like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh we did that. We've done that to step Yeah. Yeah,
never won a finals. MVP Duran won those finals. MVP
Andre Gudala, Dude, I'm like, okay, alrighty okay. A couple
other things, the Front Open, Carlos Alcarez wins the French
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and at age twenty one, I think we open the
door and say, come on in tennis, can use you
since most of the players are either retiring, retired, or
on the verge of or following an injury with Joker,
but you know, you got somebody that may be likable, talented,
and at age twenty one, Scotty Scheffler won the Memorial.
(09:29):
Now we got the US Open, and we're getting into
this territory that we've only been in this territory once
in the last thirty years, and that is this golfer
versus the field. Scotty Scheffler is in the tiger category
at least in the neighborhood here for this year because
he's won five times. He had a couple of runner
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up finishes, and we of course, you know the debacle
at the PGA Championship in Louisville. But now we're getting
into that category, at least into the neighborhood where he like,
Tiger's there and he's on the front porch, and then
all of a sudden, you know, Scotty comes into the
me against the field. Hey, Scotty, not quite in the
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driveway yet, but you know, Tiger can see him and
he's waving to him. Scotty Scheffler's there. It's him or
the field. And we've only done that with Tiger. You
can go back, and they probably did it with Jack Nicholas.
Not many golfers in the history or at least modern
day history of golf, have been the me against the field.
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But Scotti Scheffler is certainly there. There is nothing exciting
about his game other than he wins. That's it. The
run is exciting, not his golf, And sometimes we get
caught up in that. We like style points. We like
the guy who, like people loved Phil Nicholson. He'd go
for it. You know, sometimes he'd do some he'd have
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some really bad decisions, but he's going for it. That's
the kind of guy we like. Scotty Scheffler, very pragmatic,
just hey, get all right, put in the middle of fairway,
put it on the green and ane right. Two putt
this time, Oh he made a birdie there, right all right,
And then you look up and you go, oh, he
did it again. He doesn't get style points, but he's
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not out there for style points. But he's won five
times so far this year. And now you got the
US Open coming up, British Open coming out.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Now, all of a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Sudden, you put yourself in that day. That's one of
the great seasons of all time. And you know we
joked sometimes where that guy could fall out of bed
and get on the first tee and shoot, you know,
seven under. Now we can say that guy can be arrested,
put in jail and go to the first team, like
you haven't been able to do that with anybody else.
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But you know it's not like he can fall out
of bed and shoot six under par. No, he can
get out of bed, get arrested, get out of jail,
and then shoot like five under par. Yes, balling.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Since March first, he started eight tournaments, he's won five.
The other three tied per second, tied for second, and
tied for eighth. After getting arrested before round Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The old after getting arrested, rested excuse you.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Guess how much money's made in the past three months,
just the past three months.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Fifteen million dollars, twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Stat of the day, SAT of the day, bus stat
of the day, stat of the day here.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Coming here comes that what stat of the day. And
just to prove that his wife did give birth to
a baby, he had the baby there at the memorial
there we got to see him holding his baby right
after picking up another whim. All right, any other poll
questions there setne con.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well, we had one on Friday. I think we asked
this series will be five games, a fewer, six games
or more? Okay, the audience went pretty overwhelmingly with six
or more.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm gonna throw that up there again today.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
See if it comes back to reality a bit.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay. You have the Danny Hurley decision, if he's going
to stay or if he's going to go USA basketball.
You haven't had the official official decision on Caitlin Clark's future.
We'll talk about that coming up. The future on the
Olympic team, whether she was snubbed or not, could she
be an alternate, and the possibility getting back on the team.
(13:23):
But some of the things that have been reported, and
then a lot of people have a lot of opinions
on this because Caitlin Clark right now not on the
Olympic team going to Paris. We'll take a break. We'll
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We'll get to your phone calls. We will give you
our best and worst of the weekend as well some
(15:23):
of the other sports that happen over the weekend. Hockey
the Panthers up one to zero and the Eiler Stanley
Cup Final Game two coming up tonight. And you had
tennis and maybe the reintroduction of twenty one year old
Carlos Alcarez who wins the French Open. Scottie Scheffler wins
the Memorial. That's five wins for him. And now we're
(15:43):
going into the US Open, speaking of which Tiger will
be in the field, the world's best playing for one
of the great trophies in all the sports, Golf's toughest test.
You can stream live coverage of the US Open and
that will start on Thursday, go through Sunday on NBC
and Peacock. Other items, you had the Celtics go up
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two games to none last night. Beating the Mavericks one
oh five ninety eight two of seventeen from three point
range is not going to get it done. Luca was great,
but not great enough. And you got to have a
supporting cast. Kyrie has to give you at least twenty
five at night has to and then you hope that
you have a third player because Boston. Boston really hasn't
(16:28):
tapped into their resources. Where you go, Tatum and Brown,
you guys got to get your fifty five or sixty
points here, They haven't needed that yet. It's a really
good offense, it's a balanced offense, but more importantly, they
play really really good defense. Danny Hurley expected to decide
today if he's going to take the job or not.
Reportedly going to meet with his team, and I think
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one way or another, he was not going to accept
the job or turn down the job while he was
in Los Angeles. He was going to come back and
announced to his team what he's going to do, whether
it's going to the Lakers, where's he's going to stick.
I did wonder if it was a leverage play. Still
wonder if it's a leverage play, but it might be
an offer that you can't refuse. And we'll keep an
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eye on that story as well. Eight seven seven three
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to Danica Irving. Her dad reached out to us Steve
and said that his daughter has been in a children's
hospital for six days now and she's had six spinal taps,
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she has a brain tumor, and she's been a big
fan of the show and actually loves Fritzy. So hopefully
she'll have a good day today. But Steve, thank you
for reaching out. And Danica go kick some ass today.
All right, see and update the poll results if you can.
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From the first hour.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Let's see then from the first hour, we've got a
repeat of a poll question we did last week. This
series will be five or fewer games, six or more.
Last time we asked this question, fifty three percent it's
six or more games. Okay, Right now sixty nine percent
they're saying five or fewer.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's a big switch. I'm still gonna say
six games. Celtics, We'll still I don't think it'll be
a sweep.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Not over until the first home games the team from.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
The road, thank you. Yeah, the series doesn't start until
the road team.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Wins till one home team road loose.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Something like that. Oh wait, Plus, you get all these
stats where you go, you know, the Celtics are eight
to no in NBA Finals whatever, and I go, you
can't give a stat that's based on history. Because Larry
Bird's not playing, or Bob Coosey's not playing, or Bill
Russell's not they have nothing to do with this series.
(19:01):
But you go, Oh, the Celtics had won their last
six playoff series when taking a two oh series lead.
They're eight to no all time in NBA finals when
taking a two oh series lead. That doesn't mean anything
right now, it sounds great, like, yeah, the Celtics always
win those games. Okay, they usually had the best team
when they did that, and these were different teams, different generations,
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different decades. But we like throw it all together as
if you know Jason Tatum and Jyalen Brown were on
those teams. It went eight to Oh, silly, what else
do you have?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
See?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
We've got a snarky one from Paul here. Worst decision
dot dot dot Dan Hurley if he takes the Lakers
job or USA Basketball leaven Caitlin Clark off the roster.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So the worst I don't I don't know if I
could say worst. I guess from the PR perspective, I mean,
there'd be more people upset nationwide if you know Caitlin
Clark's not going to play in the Olympics. Then Danny
Hurley takes the Laker job. Everybody's got an opinion right
now in Caitlyn Clark. I don't know if everybody's going
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to have an opinion on Danny Hurley, they might go, yeah,
he did, he won two titles. Now's the time he
had a leverage play. He took advantage of it, and
he's going to LA and he's going to get one
hundred million dollars guaranteed. Let's say, I mean, that sounds
like a pretty good decision on his part. Caitlin Clark
is pr That's where how can they leave her? Once again?
(20:33):
Everybody's you know, out together. He they don't want to
grow the game. I understand all of those things. I
don't think Caitlin Clark's one of the twelve best players
right now.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If you want to have popularity, she's number one. And
it's not even close. Team USA is dominating. They will
dominate again, they always dominate. It's a given they're going
to win the gold medal. Do you want to have
Caitlin Clark on the roster? And if you do, who
you take an off? And how do you tell that person? Hey,
we want to have the popular girl on and Caitlyn
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Clark has been playing basketball for almost ten consecutive months now.
She could use a break. I don't want to speak
on her behalf, but from what I've seen, she's gone
through an awful lot. I think this experience is going
to make her better. She even said, hey, good luck
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to the team. Now I got four more years here
and I can play in Los Angeles. She's only twenty two.
Everybody on the roster I think is at least twenty
six years of age, maybe twenty seven. And there's a
couple of players who might not be able to make
the roster due to injuries. Maybe there's still a chance
that she's on the team. This is what Team USA
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is probably worried about. Caitlyn Clark's on the bench and
she's not getting any run, and then the fans get upset.
Now that was reported by Christine Brennan, and they're basing
this off of, you know, basically, do you get along
with everybody? Does everybody like you? Here's some of the
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criteria with the committee. Evaluations are based on attitude, adaptability
to the international game, likelihood of contributing to team's success. Okay,
I guess Caitlin Clark could do all of that, but
who are you taking off? And people are going to
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bring up Christian Laytner made this okay? Nobody cared that
Christin Layner didn't play at all with the Dream Team.
His job was basically to pick up Duffel bags laundry.
They hazed him. And you know, if you're going to
play against Angola and you're going to get seven minutes, like,
nobody was like, what about Ladner? Nobody cared. It's different
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and that people keep trying to bring this up. It's
apples to oranges. It doesn't doesn't equate there, Caitlin Clark
is different. The most popular player in basketball right now, basketball,
all of basketball, everybody's talking about. Everybody's got an opinion.
You know, what's happened, how she's played. You know she
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should be on the Olympic team. There's jealousy. You know,
race plays a role, sexism play. I mean, everybody has
an opinion about her, and it's not fair to the sport.
And those who are better players than her right now
doesn't mean they're going to be and in you know,
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four years, she'll be on the Olympic team. But I
think we're caught up in, you know, just this magnitude
of we want to protect her, we want to hold her,
we want to hugger. Let her just be herself, let
her deal with it. Everybody wants to fight have an
agenda here, and so many people bringing in so many
different things where you're like, wow, I didn't see that
(24:00):
one coming. We're going to compare Caitlyn Clark to Elvis
Presley and I went, all right, didn't see that one coming,
and op ed in Tennessee. I think over the weekend
somebody brought that up, Caitlyn Clark and Elvis Presley, and
I went, okay, I don't see that one. But once again,
should she be on the team, I guess. But then
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who you're taking off? And she's not even the first players.
I said this before, Marique Ogoon Ballet should be on
that team if you're going to take somebody off, if
somebody can't play. She's had an unbelievable year and she's
earned it four time All Star. She's twenty seven. Might
be her only opportunity there, but we'll wait until it's official.
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But Caitlyn Clark responded to her being snubbed.
Speaker 11 (24:51):
Honestly, no disappointment. I think it just gives you something
to work for. You know, that's a dream, you know,
hopefully we'll have to be there. And I think it's
just a little more motivation. You remember that, and you know,
I hope playing four years or four years, come to
snack around, you know, I.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
Can be there.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, yeah, I mean she's saying all the right things
knowing you know how competitive she is. Uh, you know
she's going to use this as motivation, but her motivation
should be in the off season and getting bigger or stronger.
Understanding this had grind. And I think there's still a
(25:25):
chance she's going to make the Olympic roster. Yes, Mark,
If Kaylen.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Clark doesn't make the Olympic team, appointment viewing is going
to be July twentieth. The WNBA All Star Game is
going to be the WNBA All Stars against the US
national team. That's going to be one of those over
under Kayln Clark at least shot attempts because she's going
to put him up against the US team. If she
doesn't make the Olympic team.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
For sure, that'd be good her versus Tarazi. Oh no, boy,
see I wondered what role NBC would have played in this,
because if I'm NBC, now, you know, the former head
of sports there, Dick ever saw. It feels like Dick
would have probably found a way to get Caitlin Clark
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on that team because this is a TV show and
the Olympics are really about your daughters, your wife or
your mom. That's that's the brilliance of what Dick Eversaw
did with the Olympics, that he made it a family
atmosphere to watch. That's why, you know, gymnastics was so big,
swimming so big, one of these sports that you can
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identify with. Now you have this incredible talent star. But
she's not going to be in the Olympics. But I
don't think she's one of the twelve best players. Not
right now. Yeah, Paul, if.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I'm another country, I try to acquire before the deadline, Canada,
Netherlands one of those countries. I have no idea her lineages.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Maybe yeah, maybe check the family tree twenty three and meters.
All of a sudden, you know, got some country is
gonna claim she's Italian. Let's go come on in.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
Yeah, yes, Mart for the Dream Team in ninety two,
who was the guy was Jordan, the guy that you
had to have on the team, and everybody else was
just kind of, you know, a throwing.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well. It was a open up the scrap book, here's
your roster. You got Ewing and Mullen, you got Barkley,
you got Mike bird Stockton. You know, it was just like,
come on in, everybody, We're gonna go vacation in Barcelona. Mike,
you get to play golf every day, sometimes twice a day,
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even on game day, and let's go have some fun.
And that's really what it was. That that was the
changing of the guard in the NBA, because that's when
Magic and Larry and everybody else realized that, dude, right
there is the baddest man on the planet. And they
saw that when they did their pickup pickup games. That's
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when they saw. That's when they knew that was the
one thing that came out of the Dream Team from
the United States. What came out of the Dream Team
is what you're seeing now around the world and the
number of great players who aren't born here in the
United States. Does Caitlin Clark help you grow the game?
She does, But that's not you know, apparently a priority
with the team USA. They weren't concerned about that. Their
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goal is to win a gold medal. They're going to
win a gold medal. Maybe they find a spot for
her on the roster. Wes in Illinois, Hi Wes, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (28:34):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Dan?
Speaker 14 (28:36):
With Caitlin preface by saying, I just purchased my WNBA
pass yesterday, so I'll be much more knowledgeable in the
subject in the future. NBC, No matter what happens with Caitlin,
even you know, if injuries and she gets put on,
that'll be great. If she doesn't, NBC solves it in
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a moment by just throwing over in the commentator box.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, I don't know if she would do that. I
think she would need the time off, But hey, I
wouldn't rule anything out if you could bring her in
there as a commentator, a studio analyst could do that.
I would think that she would probably want some downtime there.
She certainly earned that. Luke and Charlotte, Hi Luke, what's
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on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (29:26):
Got a best and worst of the weekend. My best
is kind of a discovering college baseball kind of good
games over the weekend.
Speaker 15 (29:33):
It was glued to the TV.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
Worse of the weekend while I was watching the college
baseball my Oregon Ducks walking in five batters in a row,
five runs in a row, and then on top of that,
letting up a grand slam for a nine run inning.
It was tough to watch.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, it's hard to do. Where you walk five consecutive
batters with the bases loaded. That would be a walk
off of sorts there or walks off. Brent in Connecticut, Hi, Brent,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (30:06):
Well, everybody, Hey Fritzi, I'm just check it in to
see how you're right home on Friday? Was after having
your fair share of dip and doughnut burger. I didn't
hear if any has meat cleanup and walling for it
on a Friday. But I did spend Saturday in Montreal
with the f one rate that's possible. Will not have
made the international news.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, that's fair, Todd. Do you want to give us
an update?
Speaker 8 (30:25):
I made it safe and sound and no issues enough
to stop and got right home.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Okay, Well, there was some concern because you were loading
up if you know what I mean I did.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
I was double fisting a couple of burgers with donuts
as buns.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, we'll get some more phone calls coming up, and
it's the all new Dan Hurley Game and we'll give
you our best and worst of the weekend. We're back
after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
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Speaker 2 (31:03):
He's Turner NBA analyst and the fourth overall pick by
the MAVs in nineteen ninety two. Take me back to
the Dream Team. Latner got the spot on the roster.
Shaq was up for it, Zoe was up for it.
You were up for this. Yeah, did you get a
chance to try out for the Dream Team?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
No? You know, let me take you back further. So
the year before, we had the Pan Am game down
in Cuba, coach by gene Kdi Grant Hill was on
the team. That was Kristin Ladner, myself, Tracy Murray, Wild Walliams,
a bunch of us, right, Adam Keith back in the day.
So during that time, you know, we had a really
good team. I got hurt going into the metal round
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and I was the leading scorer for the team, so
I got hurt, so I didn't get a chance to play.
I figured Puerto Rico we lost to so we ended
up getting the bronze. So in my mind, I'm like,
you know, I had a little stretch fracture on my foot,
and my coach, Coach Randiers at the time in Ohio Sate,
was like, you're not playing, You're done, forget about it.
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I'm like, okay, whatever the Olympics is next year, I'm
good to go. The Olympics are there, fast forward, boom,
dream team comes, I'm like, are you kidding me? We're
going all pro? And then they're like that's all. I'm
trying to look at the roster and I'm like, well,
you know, they got a lot of big men already,
would Carl Malone and Patrick Ewing and David Robinson Barkley.
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They're not going to take another big man. Got to
be a guard. So I'm thinking in my mind, trying
to give myself an opportunity to get there, but unfortunately
it wasn't. It was Christian Electrician at the time, he
was AP Player of the Year I was UPI Player
of the Year. He had all the accolades, one of
the best college players ever. So you know, you can't
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really be too mad at that asp aspect because he
did have the pedigree with regards to being selected. But
it was tough at that time, and I thought I
had a really good shot being on the squad.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Coach K was on the committee too, which helped laden
her a little bit. Yeah, but Isaiah Thomas had a
little bit more of a beef that he got snubbed.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Your of course. Oh yeah, because of the John John
Stockton thing. You know, but it's never I mean, what's fair.
Think about it, and it's always something in some kind
of selection process, even if you go and you try out.
My sophomore year it was a Good Will Games and
the first time I ever got cut. Coach K was
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the coach. I made it to the final round. We
got a theme here. It only damn we got a
theme here. And I told Coach K about this later on,
I said, I'm still mad at you. But I thought
I played really well and didn't make the team, and
I was just scratching my head, like, how could I
not I got cut? I never got cut in my
life and that, you know, that just showed me that,
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you know, sometimes fits work, fit works better than the other.
But I thought Isaiah's was just a detriment to the
game of basketball. It's no way. But that had to
do more with he wasn't as like by of course
Michael and Scottie and maybe Charles at the time. I
don't know, but that that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay, what is factoring in with Caitlyn Clark not making
the women's Olympic roster in your mind.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Maybe all the noise around the season at the beginning,
kind of the vitrioll going back and forth, all of
that I think played a role into Now I can't
say that for sure, but being around the game and
being around committees, being around sports, it's like, do you
want to carry this baggage here? What if she doesn't play,
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if she's not playing as much? How much pressure is
that on the coaching staff on USA basketball? A lot
of that, But at the end of the day, too,
it goes back to it's a lot of women who
played this game that deserved to be on the team, Okay,
that have fought extremely hard to get this opportunity to
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play and for one not to be able to do
it because you want to implant Kate mccark for the future.
That's kind of unfair again. It goes back to that
word fair, unfair again. And I think it was so
much noise around Caitlyn Clark that I think the committee
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made a decision to pass on what would come with
it if Caatelyn didn't play, if Caitlyn didn't do this,
you know what I mean? And one way or the other,
it was going to cause some kind of controverty because
you think about if she was on and she got
put on before another young lady who's been there, think
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about the vitriol that comes from that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, it's tricky. You can say put her on because
she's grown the sport, she has a great resume, or
you can say she's not one of the twelve best
players right now in the WNBA, which is what I
That would be my opinion. She's not one of the
twelve best. But do I want to grow the game?
Like I don't want to be shortsighted on this because
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we've seen eyeballs on the WNBA. Can we take advantage
of that? Is that part of what the Olympic Committee
should be doing well.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Part of it should be you think about the committee
from the perspective, you put the twelve best players together,
flat out that's the job. But we all know from
a political perspective, it's not always the case. We talked
about that with the Dream Team. Okay, that is not
always the case with regards to putting the twelve best
players together. It's never been like that. It's always been
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something in there. And that's a choice that the WNBA
had to make it and that's the quandary that they
were faced with. I can imagine leading up to it,
the number of knockdown conversations and one side had this
plausible cause a to why Caitlyn should be there. The
other side had this on why she shouldn't, okay, And
at the end of the day, I think they took
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the path of least resistance, which was we can always
fall back on Caitlyn has a lot of times. She's
a rookie. She'll be able to play, you know, four
years from now. She's not one of the twelve best
players as of yet. But the marketing push for the
w NBA is still going to be there during the
regular season to promote the Indiana Fever. More importantly, Caitlyn.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Clark talking to Jim Jackson, Fox Turner NBA analysts played
fourteen seasons in the NBA. If Dan Hurley asked your
opinion this morning, should I stay or should I go?
You would say, if you want to be in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yes, is it with the I would say, you think hard.
What's the long term? What's the short term outlook for
you as a coach? Because here's the thing. The Lakers, Knicks, Celtics,
those are the three premium jobs. We know that you
got the bulls behind it, and you know Philadelphia and
so on. It's a lot of pressure that comes with that. Yeah,
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you're getting paid ten million plus dollars a year, eight years,
whatever it may be. But the expectation is to win now.
Ask Darvin Ham. Okay, expectation is to win now. I
don't care what they say. You got a short window
opportunity with Lebron James and then Anthony David. Is it
that you need to win now a year or two
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or are we building something out for the next seven
eight years of your contract on how we're going to
get our organization back to a premitted spot where we're
competing for a championship. I think that's very important. Now
you can take the quick hit and get the money,
but you can get the mono I think maybe at Yukon. Now,
the landscape you got to put this. Keep this in mind, Dan,
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the landscape of college basketball or college sports has shamed.
You're basically now in a pro system within the confines
of NCAA. The only difference is when you're dealing with
the NBA, you don't have to go out and raise money,
you don't have to go out and speak, you don't
have to do all these other things outside of dealing
(39:28):
with the board, the president at that university. You have
to deal with the GM and you have to deal
with the ownership in NBA. But that's what you're doing
in college. So what are your expectations. What's the franchise expectations?
And I think the Lakers gig with Lebron James it's
a tough gig for any coach, let alone a coach
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that hasn't spent time in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well, I wonder is it advantageous to have Lebron on
the roster. Like if you're Dan Hurley and you're thinking
about this and they're looking at big picture and Lebron's
going to be there for two more years? Do I
have to then you know we're taking Bronnie James? Does
he factor into this as well? Anthony Davis's future? The expectations.
You had a coach who went to the Western Conference
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finals and the next year gets fired. The West is stacked,
So there's is it a plus having Lebron there? If
you're Dan Hurley to take this job.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's a plus. It's a catch twenty two because you
want the best players to be on your team, and
Lebron is still one of the best. But it's a
certain amount of gravity that comes with that. If you
get on the batside of Lebron and he doesn't have
to verbally say it, then it's some consequences to that,
just like with any superstar of a team. Because it's
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a level of control that Dan Hurley is used to
having in college. Well, he can select his roster, he
understands what transfers to go get, he understands which freshman
to go recruit. Are you going to have some kind
of roster control? Are you going to be able to
pick your own staff? That was one of the issues
that was a big issue too. I remember when ty
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Lew and I do games for the Clippers. When he
had an opportunity to be a coacher, he interviewed and
it was before Frank Bogel. One of the big things
was one three year deal compared to other coaches getting
a five year deal. The more important part too with
that is that the Lakers wanted to pick his coaching
stat and Tyler was like, ho, look, or any coach
that won a championship will be like oldup, I've won
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a championship. I should have control over my coaching stat
And do you have a level a voice in the
room with roster construction, because you think about this, when
Frank Bogel was there, they changed the roster, brought in
Russell Westbrook and some other players that didn't fit. How
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Frank Bogel coach that wasn't his so he was forced
to coach a roster that didn't fit. So as a
as a coach, now you're behind a ball, what do
you do. You're trying to put these you know, round
sockings into a square hole knowing they don't fit. And
then at the end of the day, who's fault it?
It's the coaching. So it's a lot bigger decision and
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a lot more goes into it when you're with the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Man, is the MAVs situation fixable in the finals?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Well, you just can't go get more talent. You can't
do it at this point. I mean, you've been around
us to notice it's all about matchups.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, but they got her here with that talent.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, but but matchups, Okay, matchups. Playing against Minnesota is
different than playing against the Celtics. Why, Minnesota had Anthony
Edwards that can beat you off the dribble every now
and then, Mike Conley could get it, but that was it.
So when the ball was sprayed around, you didn't have
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Nikhil Walker, Alexander or Jay McDaniels beating you off the
dribble forcing you to help them. Now kicking it Boston,
when you put Chris Stops in, there has five players
on the court that when the ball rotates, you close out,
they drive you. You try to stop them, they kick it,
they drive it again, and they can either make a
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play for their teammates or make a shot. That's the
challenge that the Mavericks have facing this iteration of the
Boston Celtics is that you can't take everything away. So
that's why I say it goes back to matchups. Minnesota
masters up better with Denver, Dallas master up better with Minnesota.
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But this is a tough defensive matchup for the Mavericks
versus the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
If the Celtics win, who gets MVP.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Well, right now it looks like Jalen Brown, and not
just because what he's doing offensive, I think defense, he
has an impact on the game. And I'll give I'll
give a shout out to Jason Tatum for a level
of maturity as well, because then you know this, it's
a lot of pressure being in Boston and being the guy.
He's not shooting the ball particularly well, but he said
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throughout the course of the season that he's focused on
the team aspect of what we need to do to win,
and you can kind of see that and his deference
at times in the game to give it up to
Derek White, to give it up to Jaden Brown, to
Drew Holliday, and not overly force some sense. He's going
to pour some shot. That's just who he is and
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that's what superstars do. But he's not hanging his head,
because you know why, then they're winning, and he's maturity
understands that if he wants to walk in the room
with the rest of the grades, having one of those
things on his finger, yeah, gives him the key to
that door.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I remember the first time I went to the Boston Garden.
It was nineteen eighty three, I think, and I remember
seeing it on TV and I thought, God, it looks
so gorgeous, the parquet floor, and then I got to
the floor and I go, damn, this thing's all banged up,
and you know, there's there's gashes in it. There's pieces
of the wood taken out. What did you think when
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you first saw the Boston Garden, the original?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Hold up, have you seen the locker rooms?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I did. I was in the Lakers locker room when
they won the title, but it was high school. High
school locker rooms were I can't even call that a
locker room, Jim.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
It was a room with some chairs and some hugs. No, no,
he was a great part about the locker room. You
didn't know whether the shower was going to be hot
a cold, or a few glass and friends running around
to join you in the shower, some little rodents running around.
You had no idea, so they controlled you from that
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and then okay, you see that. Then you go to
the court. The court was put in pieces because of
the park, so we had those little screws that were
in the court. So that's why guys would go in
and I know I did. You would try to find
the dead spots because they were there as beautiful in
the aura of what it what it was a.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
You can say it.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
No, I can't say it. I can't say it, but
it was the nostalgic of being in the garden was awesome.
I mean it was just just you just felt history.
But man, the mechanics of it and the underiece of it, man,
it was. It was tough, bro. I mean you would
hit the ball, you hear go pump because it wouldn't
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bounce back up.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And the Celtics knew there were certain spots on the
floor that if they doubled you that you know, there
were dead spots on the floor. Like they were trying
to use it to their advantage. But I remember somebody
put a roll of quarters in between two pieces of
parquet because there was that much room in between the
spaces between. I went, damn, this this it looks a
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whole lot better on TV than it does in person.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
But a lot of those older I remember playing in Chicago,
I got a chance of playing a lot all the
old stadiums, except for Phoenix because American Airlines came in
in ninety two, so I didn't get a chance to
playing in the coliseum. I think it was I played
in markets where I played in Hemisphere. I played in Washington.
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The bulls go downstairs underneath. You know mad House on Madison,
you know the form, of course. But all of them
had their different quirks because they were just older building
you felt good about going in, especially the nostalgia of
a lot of them. But man, I look at these
locker rooms now in these stadiums and I'm like, are
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you kidding? The practice facilities are better, but which should be.
But I think that gave it a little kind of
nostalgia too, to a younger player coming in seeing these
old buildings and playing in them and just reliving some
sort of a little history through the eyes of a
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young twenty two to twenty three year old.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
God no, I couldn't wait to shoot at the Boston Garden.
It was just it was Austin you know.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
What I did when we played at the Spectrum. I
grew up a doctor j Fann, a Philly fan, sixer fan.
I went to the spot where Doc took off on
Cooper with the Roger Prad.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
But you didn't take off from there, did you not?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
But I went. I went. I've seen the play so
many times, and this is the beautiful thing about an
old building that has history. It's it's it's places, moments
that you see in your mind. So when I got there,
I envisioned the other side of the court. There was
Doc coming down, Cooper trying to get back, and he
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takes off. But also when God did the reverse layup
on the Lakers behind the rim. See that you can't
get because the history tells the story and you try
to go relive it as a young player in those
old buildings, I mean, unbelieved in the form, just doing
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the fast break with Magic Johnson to Byron Scott or
to Cooper Loop. You know what I mean. Those moments
man as raggedy as some may be, it's it's still
a beautiful thing when you're you're caught up into that history.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Always great to catch up with you. Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Always did I appreciate it? My friend enjoy Game three.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
That's Jim Jackson, Fox Turner, NBA analyst and fourteen year
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Play the Day Question and of course Stats of the
Day all of that forthcoming, Danny Hurley, will he decide today?
Woade said it could happen his earliest today because it
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can't happen any earlier than that. But is it Connecticut?
Is it the Lakers? I said on Friday. If he
comes back home without an agreement, then I think he's
more than likely to be staying with Connecticut. I have
no inside knowledge on this, but I know how these
things work. You're out there, everything's great. They're telling you
all these things. There's one hundred million dollars there. It's
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all guaranteed. All you got to do is sign on
the dotted line. Hmmm, let me go back home and
think about it. That's not what you want. But maybe
maybe he just goes back home to say to his
wife and kids and dad and his mom, everything's good.
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address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it dp show. So
the Celtics over the maps one five to ninety eight,
and we know the numbers. Trying to come back from
a two to oh deficit doesn't bode well for the Dallas.
Mavericks ays, the series now goes to Dallas, but the
Celtics win it, and the Celtics have won their last
playoff series, six of them when taking a two to lead,
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and the first team to have five or more players
with at least thirty points through the first two games
in the NBA Finals. Last time this happened was nineteen
eighty seven Lakers. I believe she had Worthy and Byron Scott, Kareem,
Michael Cooper and Magic. You have a balanced attack here.
We said when the series started that Dallas had to
(02:36):
have a third person. Well, they need a second person
because Kyrie has not played well at all. Now Luca's
getting you thirty and I said, it'll give you a
triple double. But that's not good enough if Kyrie is
not going to hit from three point range. The team
is two for seventeen. You just don't have a chance
against a Boston team that hasn't had to play great basketball.
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You had Christops Forzingis in game one, Drew Holliday game two,
Derek White in there. You're not even saying, hey, Tatum
and Brown, you got to put up big numbers. They
haven't done that yet. This is a balanced team. What
is underrated is their defense. They have a variety of
players who can guard a variety of players. Now, you're
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not going to stop Luca. You can only hope to
contain him. But they have stopped Kyrie, they have contained him. PJ. Washington,
you know you're going to need a superhuman effort by
Luca and Kyrie to try to come back and win
four the next five. But I'm not going to say
it's not possible. Because I've been doing this a long time.
(03:42):
You can never say never. It's not something that I do.
But the odds are really, really, really long that you're
going to be able to do it because I now,
granted you can say, hey, Dallas has kind of been
in these games. Certainly last night they were in the game. Yeah,
they're in the game, but I never feel like they're
going to win the game. There's a difference in that
they're kind of there. If you're looking at the overall
(04:04):
tone of the game, it's Boston and I'm still waiting
for maybe that team effort. And of course, if you
don't get it in game three, then pretty much say
good night here.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
All right?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Pull question Seaton if you watch too just how much
Luca and Kyrie have to work for every single shot?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
May they must be exhausted. I mean every single one
is like some kind of like isolation. Go this, go it,
cut in, cut back, dude that just to get a
fade away that maybe they hit man, they just must
be wiped.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, you could see and Paul texts this to us
last night in the group check text that he's gassed.
He was gassed. Now nine minutes to go. You could
see where Luca was like. Plus he didn't even go
down at the other end of the floor. He got
knocked down and then he's like, I'll get you guys
when you come back up here. But yeah, he's working
(05:01):
a lot more and he's not healthy now. The ball
over a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, it's got to be tough too to be like
those two dudes and just look around and be like,
can one of you guys just hit a couple shots please?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, haven't had it yet. And granted you could look
at the margin of victory and go all right, you know,
hit a couple of threes, yes, but they're not hitting
those threes and it almost feels like sometimes they're too
wide open or they're they're so contested. It's one or
the other.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
There.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Meanwhile, with Boston, Drew Holidays wide open, they're like, all right,
we're gonna check Tatum and Brown. Let me see if
you can hit those big shots. And he has. Drew
Holliday played really well, has played really well. Throw in
Derek White playing great defense. I mean, it's just a
balanced attack. Now, poor zingis not sure. He says he's
playing in Game three. Got re injured again last night.
(05:55):
But you know, now we got to see the best
of Dallas has to offer. Here is the Boston Celtics
head coach Joe Missoula on the individual players on Boston.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I'm really tired of hearing about one guy or this
guy or that guy, and everybody trying to make it
out to be anything other than Celtic basketball. And everybody
that plays stepped down that court tonight made winning plays
on both ends of the floorest the most important thing, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And then Jason Tatum. He was asked about Jason Kidd
talking about who's the best player on the Celtics, and
Jay Kidd said it was Jalen Brown. Where here's Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I've been there before and we didn't win, and it's
just like, you know, we're so close to what we're
trying to accomplish. Why would I let my ego or
full of my need to score all the points to
get in the way of that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, I'm fine with that. I don't know if Jay
Kid goes go down in my lab here, what can
I do? I'm going to create some controversy.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Wow, how about this.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm going to say Jalen Brown is the best player
on the Celtics. Okay, you could say that he is
playing the best on the Celtics. Maybe he's not the
best player because Ryan Scalabrini, former NBA player, joined us
on Friday and he does thee he's a Celtics analyst,
and he said, no, No, Jayson Tatum's the best player
because he's taken the best defender. Usually there's going to
(07:19):
be two guys on him. Everybody else has the opportunity
to then have an easier way either to the hoop
or hitting jumpers there. So Jason Tatum, you know, Tatum
has had just a nice series so far, hasn't had
to do anything crazy, and Jalen Brown same way. You
haven't had to have a monster game out of anybody yet.
(07:41):
But you will but I think Jay Kidd trying to
get into the Celtics head of how about this, I'm
going to have those two they'll be rivals on the
same team. That'll do it. Maybe not, Yes, mar.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
This feels like if the Celtics pull out this championship,
it's going to be in ten years, Hey Tatum w MVP. Right, No, no, no,
Joe Holliday, dude, really it's gonna be like that, like
Iguadala that one year, not Steph Curry.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, but Boston's played well, but Boston's a better team
than Dallas. I think we get caught up in there's
wishful you know, reporting, wishful rooting. If you don't have
a dog in the fight, you're like, man, I'd like
to see Dallas Luca Kyrie. That'd be fun. Okay, Denver
would have been a better matchup with the Celtics. I
(08:28):
know it's only two games, but I said from the outset,
Boston is a better team and that's why they were
going to win.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes, that's going to be one of those things too.
When it's like Tatum's up for the Hall of Fame
and never won a finals MVP, that's where it comes
back where you're like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh we did that. We've done that to step Yeah. Yeah,
never won a finals. MVP Duran won those finals. MVP
Andre Gudala, Dude, I'm like, okay, alrighty okay. A couple
other things, the Front Open, Carlos Alcarez wins the French
(09:06):
and at age twenty one, I think we open the
door and say, come on in tennis, can use you
since most of the players are either retiring, retired, or
on the verge of or following an injury with Joker,
but you know, you got somebody that may be likable, talented,
and at age twenty one, Scotty Scheffler won the Memorial.
(09:29):
Now we got the US Open, and we're getting into
this territory that we've only been in this territory once
in the last thirty years, and that is this golfer
versus the field. Scotty Scheffler is in the tiger category
at least in the neighborhood here for this year because
he's won five times. He had a couple of runner
(09:49):
up finishes, and we of course, you know the debacle
at the PGA Championship in Louisville. But now we're getting
into that category, at least into the neighborhood where he like,
Tiger's there and he's on the front porch, and then
all of a sudden, you know, Scotty comes into the
me against the field. Hey, Scotty, not quite in the
(10:10):
driveway yet, but you know, Tiger can see him and
he's waving to him. Scotty Scheffler's there. It's him or
the field. And we've only done that with Tiger. You
can go back, and they probably did it with Jack Nicholas.
Not many golfers in the history or at least modern
day history of golf, have been the me against the field.
(10:31):
But Scotti Scheffler is certainly there. There is nothing exciting
about his game other than he wins. That's it. The
run is exciting, not his golf, And sometimes we get
caught up in that. We like style points. We like
the guy who, like people loved Phil Nicholson. He'd go
for it. You know, sometimes he'd do some he'd have
(10:52):
some really bad decisions, but he's going for it. That's
the kind of guy we like. Scotty Scheffler, very pragmatic,
just hey, get all right, put in the middle of fairway,
put it on the green and ane right. Two putt
this time, Oh he made a birdie there, right all right,
And then you look up and you go, oh, he
did it again. He doesn't get style points, but he's
(11:13):
not out there for style points. But he's won five
times so far this year. And now you got the
US Open coming up, British Open coming out.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Now, all of a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Sudden, you put yourself in that day. That's one of
the great seasons of all time. And you know we
joked sometimes where that guy could fall out of bed
and get on the first tee and shoot, you know,
seven under. Now we can say that guy can be arrested,
put in jail and go to the first team, like
you haven't been able to do that with anybody else.
(11:43):
But you know it's not like he can fall out
of bed and shoot six under par. No, he can
get out of bed, get arrested, get out of jail,
and then shoot like five under par. Yes, balling.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Since March first, he started eight tournaments, he's won five.
The other three tied per second, tied for second, and
tied for eighth. After getting arrested before round Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The old after getting arrested, rested excuse you.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Guess how much money's made in the past three months,
just the past three months.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Fifteen million dollars, twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Stat of the day, SAT of the day, bus stat
of the day, stat of the day here.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Coming here comes that what stat of the day. And
just to prove that his wife did give birth to
a baby, he had the baby there at the memorial
there we got to see him holding his baby right
after picking up another whim. All right, any other poll
questions there setne con.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well, we had one on Friday. I think we asked
this series will be five games, a fewer, six games
or more? Okay, the audience went pretty overwhelmingly with six
or more.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm gonna throw that up there again today.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
See if it comes back to reality a bit.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay. You have the Danny Hurley decision, if he's going
to stay or if he's going to go USA basketball.
You haven't had the official official decision on Caitlin Clark's future.
We'll talk about that coming up. The future on the
Olympic team, whether she was snubbed or not, could she
be an alternate, and the possibility getting back on the team.
(13:23):
But some of the things that have been reported, and
then a lot of people have a lot of opinions
on this because Caitlin Clark right now not on the
Olympic team going to Paris. We'll take a break. We'll
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(15:23):
of the other sports that happen over the weekend. Hockey
the Panthers up one to zero and the Eiler Stanley
Cup Final Game two coming up tonight. And you had
tennis and maybe the reintroduction of twenty one year old
Carlos Alcarez who wins the French Open. Scottie Scheffler wins
the Memorial. That's five wins for him. And now we're
(15:43):
going into the US Open, speaking of which Tiger will
be in the field, the world's best playing for one
of the great trophies in all the sports, Golf's toughest test.
You can stream live coverage of the US Open and
that will start on Thursday, go through Sunday on NBC
and Peacock. Other items, you had the Celtics go up
(16:06):
two games to none last night. Beating the Mavericks one
oh five ninety eight two of seventeen from three point
range is not going to get it done. Luca was great,
but not great enough. And you got to have a
supporting cast. Kyrie has to give you at least twenty
five at night has to and then you hope that
you have a third player because Boston. Boston really hasn't
(16:28):
tapped into their resources. Where you go, Tatum and Brown,
you guys got to get your fifty five or sixty
points here, They haven't needed that yet. It's a really
good offense, it's a balanced offense, but more importantly, they
play really really good defense. Danny Hurley expected to decide
today if he's going to take the job or not.
Reportedly going to meet with his team, and I think
(16:52):
one way or another, he was not going to accept
the job or turn down the job while he was
in Los Angeles. He was going to come back and
announced to his team what he's going to do, whether
it's going to the Lakers, where's he's going to stick.
I did wonder if it was a leverage play. Still
wonder if it's a leverage play, but it might be
an offer that you can't refuse. And we'll keep an
(17:14):
eye on that story as well. Eight seven seven three
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to Danica Irving. Her dad reached out to us Steve
and said that his daughter has been in a children's
hospital for six days now and she's had six spinal taps,
(17:36):
has another one coming up today. She's seventeen years of age,
she has a brain tumor, and she's been a big
fan of the show and actually loves Fritzy. So hopefully
she'll have a good day today. But Steve, thank you
for reaching out. And Danica go kick some ass today.
All right, see and update the poll results if you can.
(17:57):
From the first hour.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Let's see then from the first hour, we've got a
repeat of a poll question we did last week. This
series will be five or fewer games, six or more.
Last time we asked this question, fifty three percent it's
six or more games. Okay, Right now sixty nine percent
they're saying five or fewer.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's a big switch. I'm still gonna say
six games. Celtics, We'll still I don't think it'll be
a sweep.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Not over until the first home games the team from.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
The road, thank you. Yeah, the series doesn't start until
the road team.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Wins till one home team road loose.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Something like that. Oh wait, Plus, you get all these
stats where you go, you know, the Celtics are eight
to no in NBA Finals whatever, and I go, you
can't give a stat that's based on history. Because Larry
Bird's not playing, or Bob Coosey's not playing, or Bill
Russell's not they have nothing to do with this series.
(19:01):
But you go, Oh, the Celtics had won their last
six playoff series when taking a two oh series lead.
They're eight to no all time in NBA finals when
taking a two oh series lead. That doesn't mean anything
right now, it sounds great, like, yeah, the Celtics always
win those games. Okay, they usually had the best team
when they did that, and these were different teams, different generations,
(19:26):
different decades. But we like throw it all together as
if you know Jason Tatum and Jyalen Brown were on
those teams. It went eight to Oh, silly, what else
do you have?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
See?
Speaker 4 (19:36):
We've got a snarky one from Paul here. Worst decision
dot dot dot Dan Hurley if he takes the Lakers
job or USA Basketball leaven Caitlin Clark off the roster.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So the worst I don't I don't know if I
could say worst. I guess from the PR perspective, I mean,
there'd be more people upset nationwide if you know Caitlin
Clark's not going to play in the Olympics. Then Danny
Hurley takes the Laker job. Everybody's got an opinion right
now in Caitlyn Clark. I don't know if everybody's going
(20:11):
to have an opinion on Danny Hurley, they might go, yeah,
he did, he won two titles. Now's the time he
had a leverage play. He took advantage of it, and
he's going to LA and he's going to get one
hundred million dollars guaranteed. Let's say, I mean, that sounds
like a pretty good decision on his part. Caitlin Clark
is pr That's where how can they leave her? Once again?
(20:33):
Everybody's you know, out together. He they don't want to
grow the game. I understand all of those things. I
don't think Caitlin Clark's one of the twelve best players
right now.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If you want to have popularity, she's number one. And
it's not even close. Team USA is dominating. They will
dominate again, they always dominate. It's a given they're going
to win the gold medal. Do you want to have
Caitlin Clark on the roster? And if you do, who
you take an off? And how do you tell that person? Hey,
we want to have the popular girl on and Caitlyn
(21:07):
Clark has been playing basketball for almost ten consecutive months now.
She could use a break. I don't want to speak
on her behalf, but from what I've seen, she's gone
through an awful lot. I think this experience is going
to make her better. She even said, hey, good luck
(21:28):
to the team. Now I got four more years here
and I can play in Los Angeles. She's only twenty two.
Everybody on the roster I think is at least twenty
six years of age, maybe twenty seven. And there's a
couple of players who might not be able to make
the roster due to injuries. Maybe there's still a chance
that she's on the team. This is what Team USA
(21:49):
is probably worried about. Caitlyn Clark's on the bench and
she's not getting any run, and then the fans get upset.
Now that was reported by Christine Brennan, and they're basing
this off of, you know, basically, do you get along
with everybody? Does everybody like you? Here's some of the
(22:09):
criteria with the committee. Evaluations are based on attitude, adaptability
to the international game, likelihood of contributing to team's success. Okay,
I guess Caitlin Clark could do all of that, but
who are you taking off? And people are going to
(22:31):
bring up Christian Laytner made this okay? Nobody cared that
Christin Layner didn't play at all with the Dream Team.
His job was basically to pick up Duffel bags laundry.
They hazed him. And you know, if you're going to
play against Angola and you're going to get seven minutes, like,
nobody was like, what about Ladner? Nobody cared. It's different
(22:54):
and that people keep trying to bring this up. It's
apples to oranges. It doesn't doesn't equate there, Caitlin Clark
is different. The most popular player in basketball right now, basketball,
all of basketball, everybody's talking about. Everybody's got an opinion.
You know, what's happened, how she's played. You know she
(23:17):
should be on the Olympic team. There's jealousy. You know,
race plays a role, sexism play. I mean, everybody has
an opinion about her, and it's not fair to the sport.
And those who are better players than her right now
doesn't mean they're going to be and in you know,
(23:37):
four years, she'll be on the Olympic team. But I
think we're caught up in, you know, just this magnitude
of we want to protect her, we want to hold her,
we want to hugger. Let her just be herself, let
her deal with it. Everybody wants to fight have an
agenda here, and so many people bringing in so many
different things where you're like, wow, I didn't see that
(24:00):
one coming. We're going to compare Caitlyn Clark to Elvis
Presley and I went, all right, didn't see that one coming,
and op ed in Tennessee. I think over the weekend
somebody brought that up, Caitlyn Clark and Elvis Presley, and
I went, okay, I don't see that one. But once again,
should she be on the team, I guess. But then
(24:22):
who you're taking off? And she's not even the first players.
I said this before, Marique Ogoon Ballet should be on
that team if you're going to take somebody off, if
somebody can't play. She's had an unbelievable year and she's
earned it four time All Star. She's twenty seven. Might
be her only opportunity there, but we'll wait until it's official.
(24:46):
But Caitlyn Clark responded to her being snubbed.
Speaker 11 (24:51):
Honestly, no disappointment. I think it just gives you something
to work for. You know, that's a dream, you know,
hopefully we'll have to be there. And I think it's
just a little more motivation. You remember that, and you know,
I hope playing four years or four years, come to
snack around, you know, I.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
Can be there.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, yeah, I mean she's saying all the right things
knowing you know how competitive she is. Uh, you know
she's going to use this as motivation, but her motivation
should be in the off season and getting bigger or stronger.
Understanding this had grind. And I think there's still a
(25:25):
chance she's going to make the Olympic roster. Yes, Mark,
If Kaylen.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Clark doesn't make the Olympic team, appointment viewing is going
to be July twentieth. The WNBA All Star Game is
going to be the WNBA All Stars against the US
national team. That's going to be one of those over
under Kayln Clark at least shot attempts because she's going
to put him up against the US team. If she
doesn't make the Olympic team.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
For sure, that'd be good her versus Tarazi. Oh no, boy,
see I wondered what role NBC would have played in this,
because if I'm NBC, now, you know, the former head
of sports there, Dick ever saw. It feels like Dick
would have probably found a way to get Caitlin Clark
(26:09):
on that team because this is a TV show and
the Olympics are really about your daughters, your wife or
your mom. That's that's the brilliance of what Dick Eversaw
did with the Olympics, that he made it a family
atmosphere to watch. That's why, you know, gymnastics was so big,
swimming so big, one of these sports that you can
(26:31):
identify with. Now you have this incredible talent star. But
she's not going to be in the Olympics. But I
don't think she's one of the twelve best players. Not
right now. Yeah, Paul, if.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I'm another country, I try to acquire before the deadline, Canada,
Netherlands one of those countries. I have no idea her lineages.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Maybe yeah, maybe check the family tree twenty three and meters.
All of a sudden, you know, got some country is
gonna claim she's Italian. Let's go come on in.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
Yeah, yes, Mart for the Dream Team in ninety two,
who was the guy was Jordan, the guy that you
had to have on the team, and everybody else was
just kind of, you know, a throwing.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well. It was a open up the scrap book, here's
your roster. You got Ewing and Mullen, you got Barkley,
you got Mike bird Stockton. You know, it was just like,
come on in, everybody, We're gonna go vacation in Barcelona. Mike,
you get to play golf every day, sometimes twice a day,
(27:37):
even on game day, and let's go have some fun.
And that's really what it was. That that was the
changing of the guard in the NBA, because that's when
Magic and Larry and everybody else realized that, dude, right
there is the baddest man on the planet. And they
saw that when they did their pickup pickup games. That's
(27:59):
when they saw. That's when they knew that was the
one thing that came out of the Dream Team from
the United States. What came out of the Dream Team
is what you're seeing now around the world and the
number of great players who aren't born here in the
United States. Does Caitlin Clark help you grow the game?
She does, But that's not you know, apparently a priority
with the team USA. They weren't concerned about that. Their
(28:22):
goal is to win a gold medal. They're going to
win a gold medal. Maybe they find a spot for
her on the roster. Wes in Illinois, Hi Wes, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (28:34):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Dan?
Speaker 14 (28:36):
With Caitlin preface by saying, I just purchased my WNBA
pass yesterday, so I'll be much more knowledgeable in the
subject in the future. NBC, No matter what happens with Caitlin,
even you know, if injuries and she gets put on,
that'll be great. If she doesn't, NBC solves it in
(28:57):
a moment by just throwing over in the commentator box.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, I don't know if she would do that. I
think she would need the time off, But hey, I
wouldn't rule anything out if you could bring her in
there as a commentator, a studio analyst could do that.
I would think that she would probably want some downtime there.
She certainly earned that. Luke and Charlotte, Hi Luke, what's
(29:22):
on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (29:26):
Got a best and worst of the weekend. My best
is kind of a discovering college baseball kind of good
games over the weekend.
Speaker 15 (29:33):
It was glued to the TV.
Speaker 12 (29:35):
Worse of the weekend while I was watching the college
baseball my Oregon Ducks walking in five batters in a row,
five runs in a row, and then on top of that,
letting up a grand slam for a nine run inning.
It was tough to watch.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, it's hard to do. Where you walk five consecutive
batters with the bases loaded. That would be a walk
off of sorts there or walks off. Brent in Connecticut, Hi, Brent,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (30:06):
Well, everybody, Hey Fritzi, I'm just check it in to
see how you're right home on Friday? Was after having
your fair share of dip and doughnut burger. I didn't
hear if any has meat cleanup and walling for it
on a Friday. But I did spend Saturday in Montreal
with the f one rate that's possible. Will not have
made the international news.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, that's fair, Todd. Do you want to give us
an update?
Speaker 8 (30:25):
I made it safe and sound and no issues enough
to stop and got right home.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Okay, Well, there was some concern because you were loading
up if you know what I mean I did.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
I was double fisting a couple of burgers with donuts
as buns.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, we'll get some more phone calls coming up, and
it's the all new Dan Hurley Game and we'll give
you our best and worst of the weekend. We're back
after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (31:03):
He's Turner NBA analyst and the fourth overall pick by
the MAVs in nineteen ninety two. Take me back to
the Dream Team. Latner got the spot on the roster.
Shaq was up for it, Zoe was up for it.
You were up for this. Yeah, did you get a
chance to try out for the Dream Team?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
No? You know, let me take you back further. So
the year before, we had the Pan Am game down
in Cuba, coach by gene Kdi Grant Hill was on
the team. That was Kristin Ladner, myself, Tracy Murray, Wild Walliams,
a bunch of us, right, Adam Keith back in the day.
So during that time, you know, we had a really
good team. I got hurt going into the metal round
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and I was the leading scorer for the team, so
I got hurt, so I didn't get a chance to play.
I figured Puerto Rico we lost to so we ended
up getting the bronze. So in my mind, I'm like,
you know, I had a little stretch fracture on my foot,
and my coach, Coach Randiers at the time in Ohio Sate,
was like, you're not playing, You're done, forget about it.
(32:10):
I'm like, okay, whatever the Olympics is next year, I'm
good to go. The Olympics are there, fast forward, boom,
dream team comes, I'm like, are you kidding me? We're
going all pro? And then they're like that's all. I'm
trying to look at the roster and I'm like, well,
you know, they got a lot of big men already,
would Carl Malone and Patrick Ewing and David Robinson Barkley.
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They're not going to take another big man. Got to
be a guard. So I'm thinking in my mind, trying
to give myself an opportunity to get there, but unfortunately
it wasn't. It was Christian Electrician at the time, he
was AP Player of the Year I was UPI Player
of the Year. He had all the accolades, one of
the best college players ever. So you know, you can't
(32:58):
really be too mad at that asp aspect because he
did have the pedigree with regards to being selected. But
it was tough at that time, and I thought I
had a really good shot being on the squad.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Coach K was on the committee too, which helped laden
her a little bit. Yeah, but Isaiah Thomas had a
little bit more of a beef that he got snubbed.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Your of course. Oh yeah, because of the John John
Stockton thing. You know, but it's never I mean, what's fair.
Think about it, and it's always something in some kind
of selection process, even if you go and you try out.
My sophomore year it was a Good Will Games and
the first time I ever got cut. Coach K was
(33:44):
the coach. I made it to the final round. We
got a theme here. It only damn we got a
theme here. And I told Coach K about this later on,
I said, I'm still mad at you. But I thought
I played really well and didn't make the team, and
I was just scratching my head, like, how could I
not I got cut? I never got cut in my
life and that, you know, that just showed me that,
(34:06):
you know, sometimes fits work, fit works better than the other.
But I thought Isaiah's was just a detriment to the
game of basketball. It's no way. But that had to
do more with he wasn't as like by of course
Michael and Scottie and maybe Charles at the time. I
don't know, but that that whole thing.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay, what is factoring in with Caitlyn Clark not making
the women's Olympic roster in your mind.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Maybe all the noise around the season at the beginning,
kind of the vitrioll going back and forth, all of
that I think played a role into Now I can't
say that for sure, but being around the game and
being around committees, being around sports, it's like, do you
want to carry this baggage here? What if she doesn't play,
(34:55):
if she's not playing as much? How much pressure is
that on the coaching staff on USA basketball? A lot
of that, But at the end of the day, too,
it goes back to it's a lot of women who
played this game that deserved to be on the team, Okay,
that have fought extremely hard to get this opportunity to
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play and for one not to be able to do
it because you want to implant Kate mccark for the future.
That's kind of unfair again. It goes back to that
word fair, unfair again. And I think it was so
much noise around Caitlyn Clark that I think the committee
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made a decision to pass on what would come with
it if Caatelyn didn't play, if Caitlyn didn't do this,
you know what I mean? And one way or the other,
it was going to cause some kind of controverty because
you think about if she was on and she got
put on before another young lady who's been there, think
(35:57):
about the vitriol that comes from that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, it's tricky. You can say put her on because
she's grown the sport, she has a great resume, or
you can say she's not one of the twelve best
players right now in the WNBA, which is what I
That would be my opinion. She's not one of the
twelve best. But do I want to grow the game?
Like I don't want to be shortsighted on this because
(36:23):
we've seen eyeballs on the WNBA. Can we take advantage
of that? Is that part of what the Olympic Committee
should be doing well.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Part of it should be you think about the committee
from the perspective, you put the twelve best players together,
flat out that's the job. But we all know from
a political perspective, it's not always the case. We talked
about that with the Dream Team. Okay, that is not
always the case with regards to putting the twelve best
players together. It's never been like that. It's always been
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something in there. And that's a choice that the WNBA
had to make it and that's the quandary that they
were faced with. I can imagine leading up to it,
the number of knockdown conversations and one side had this
plausible cause a to why Caitlyn should be there. The
other side had this on why she shouldn't, okay, And
at the end of the day, I think they took
(37:18):
the path of least resistance, which was we can always
fall back on Caitlyn has a lot of times. She's
a rookie. She'll be able to play, you know, four
years from now. She's not one of the twelve best
players as of yet. But the marketing push for the
w NBA is still going to be there during the
regular season to promote the Indiana Fever. More importantly, Caitlyn.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Clark talking to Jim Jackson, Fox Turner NBA analysts played
fourteen seasons in the NBA. If Dan Hurley asked your
opinion this morning, should I stay or should I go?
You would say, if you want to be in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yes, is it with the I would say, you think hard.
What's the long term? What's the short term outlook for
you as a coach? Because here's the thing. The Lakers, Knicks, Celtics,
those are the three premium jobs. We know that you
got the bulls behind it, and you know Philadelphia and
so on. It's a lot of pressure that comes with that. Yeah,
(38:21):
you're getting paid ten million plus dollars a year, eight years,
whatever it may be. But the expectation is to win now.
Ask Darvin Ham. Okay, expectation is to win now. I
don't care what they say. You got a short window
opportunity with Lebron James and then Anthony David. Is it
that you need to win now a year or two
(38:43):
or are we building something out for the next seven
eight years of your contract on how we're going to
get our organization back to a premitted spot where we're
competing for a championship. I think that's very important. Now
you can take the quick hit and get the money,
but you can get the mono I think maybe at Yukon. Now,
the landscape you got to put this. Keep this in mind, Dan,
(39:06):
the landscape of college basketball or college sports has shamed.
You're basically now in a pro system within the confines
of NCAA. The only difference is when you're dealing with
the NBA, you don't have to go out and raise money,
you don't have to go out and speak, you don't
have to do all these other things outside of dealing
(39:28):
with the board, the president at that university. You have
to deal with the GM and you have to deal
with the ownership in NBA. But that's what you're doing
in college. So what are your expectations. What's the franchise expectations?
And I think the Lakers gig with Lebron James it's
a tough gig for any coach, let alone a coach
(39:49):
that hasn't spent time in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well, I wonder is it advantageous to have Lebron on
the roster. Like if you're Dan Hurley and you're thinking
about this and they're looking at big picture and Lebron's
going to be there for two more years? Do I
have to then you know we're taking Bronnie James? Does
he factor into this as well? Anthony Davis's future? The expectations.
You had a coach who went to the Western Conference
(40:14):
finals and the next year gets fired. The West is stacked,
So there's is it a plus having Lebron there? If
you're Dan Hurley to take this job.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's a plus. It's a catch twenty two because you
want the best players to be on your team, and
Lebron is still one of the best. But it's a
certain amount of gravity that comes with that. If you
get on the batside of Lebron and he doesn't have
to verbally say it, then it's some consequences to that,
just like with any superstar of a team. Because it's
(40:48):
a level of control that Dan Hurley is used to
having in college. Well, he can select his roster, he
understands what transfers to go get, he understands which freshman
to go recruit. Are you going to have some kind
of roster control? Are you going to be able to
pick your own staff? That was one of the issues
that was a big issue too. I remember when ty
(41:08):
Lew and I do games for the Clippers. When he
had an opportunity to be a coacher, he interviewed and
it was before Frank Bogel. One of the big things
was one three year deal compared to other coaches getting
a five year deal. The more important part too with
that is that the Lakers wanted to pick his coaching
stat and Tyler was like, ho, look, or any coach
that won a championship will be like oldup, I've won
(41:30):
a championship. I should have control over my coaching stat
And do you have a level a voice in the
room with roster construction, because you think about this, when
Frank Bogel was there, they changed the roster, brought in
Russell Westbrook and some other players that didn't fit. How
(41:53):
Frank Bogel coach that wasn't his so he was forced
to coach a roster that didn't fit. So as a
as a coach, now you're behind a ball, what do
you do. You're trying to put these you know, round
sockings into a square hole knowing they don't fit. And
then at the end of the day, who's fault it?
It's the coaching. So it's a lot bigger decision and
(42:15):
a lot more goes into it when you're with the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Man, is the MAVs situation fixable in the finals?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Well, you just can't go get more talent. You can't
do it at this point. I mean, you've been around
us to notice it's all about matchups.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, but they got her here with that talent.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, but but matchups, Okay, matchups. Playing against Minnesota is
different than playing against the Celtics. Why, Minnesota had Anthony
Edwards that can beat you off the dribble every now
and then, Mike Conley could get it, but that was it.
So when the ball was sprayed around, you didn't have
(43:01):
Nikhil Walker, Alexander or Jay McDaniels beating you off the
dribble forcing you to help them. Now kicking it Boston,
when you put Chris Stops in, there has five players
on the court that when the ball rotates, you close out,
they drive you. You try to stop them, they kick it,
they drive it again, and they can either make a
(43:23):
play for their teammates or make a shot. That's the
challenge that the Mavericks have facing this iteration of the
Boston Celtics is that you can't take everything away. So
that's why I say it goes back to matchups. Minnesota
masters up better with Denver, Dallas master up better with Minnesota.
(43:44):
But this is a tough defensive matchup for the Mavericks
versus the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
If the Celtics win, who gets MVP.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Well, right now it looks like Jalen Brown, and not
just because what he's doing offensive, I think defense, he
has an impact on the game. And I'll give I'll
give a shout out to Jason Tatum for a level
of maturity as well, because then you know this, it's
a lot of pressure being in Boston and being the guy.
He's not shooting the ball particularly well, but he said
(44:15):
throughout the course of the season that he's focused on
the team aspect of what we need to do to win,
and you can kind of see that and his deference
at times in the game to give it up to
Derek White, to give it up to Jaden Brown, to
Drew Holliday, and not overly force some sense. He's going
to pour some shot. That's just who he is and
(44:37):
that's what superstars do. But he's not hanging his head,
because you know why, then they're winning, and he's maturity
understands that if he wants to walk in the room
with the rest of the grades, having one of those
things on his finger, yeah, gives him the key to
that door.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I remember the first time I went to the Boston Garden.
It was nineteen eighty three, I think, and I remember
seeing it on TV and I thought, God, it looks
so gorgeous, the parquet floor, and then I got to
the floor and I go, damn, this thing's all banged up,
and you know, there's there's gashes in it. There's pieces
of the wood taken out. What did you think when
(45:15):
you first saw the Boston Garden, the original?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Hold up, have you seen the locker rooms?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I did. I was in the Lakers locker room when
they won the title, but it was high school. High
school locker rooms were I can't even call that a
locker room, Jim.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
It was a room with some chairs and some hugs. No, no,
he was a great part about the locker room. You
didn't know whether the shower was going to be hot
a cold, or a few glass and friends running around
to join you in the shower, some little rodents running around.
You had no idea, so they controlled you from that
(45:54):
and then okay, you see that. Then you go to
the court. The court was put in pieces because of
the park, so we had those little screws that were
in the court. So that's why guys would go in
and I know I did. You would try to find
the dead spots because they were there as beautiful in
the aura of what it what it was a.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
You can say it.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
No, I can't say it. I can't say it, but
it was the nostalgic of being in the garden was awesome.
I mean it was just just you just felt history.
But man, the mechanics of it and the underiece of it, man,
it was. It was tough, bro. I mean you would
hit the ball, you hear go pump because it wouldn't
(46:37):
bounce back up.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And the Celtics knew there were certain spots on the
floor that if they doubled you that you know, there
were dead spots on the floor. Like they were trying
to use it to their advantage. But I remember somebody
put a roll of quarters in between two pieces of
parquet because there was that much room in between the
spaces between. I went, damn, this this it looks a
(47:01):
whole lot better on TV than it does in person.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
But a lot of those older I remember playing in Chicago,
I got a chance of playing a lot all the
old stadiums, except for Phoenix because American Airlines came in
in ninety two, so I didn't get a chance to
playing in the coliseum. I think it was I played
in markets where I played in Hemisphere. I played in Washington.
(47:28):
The bulls go downstairs underneath. You know mad House on Madison,
you know the form, of course. But all of them
had their different quirks because they were just older building
you felt good about going in, especially the nostalgia of
a lot of them. But man, I look at these
locker rooms now in these stadiums and I'm like, are
(47:50):
you kidding? The practice facilities are better, but which should be.
But I think that gave it a little kind of
nostalgia too, to a younger player coming in seeing these
old buildings and playing in them and just reliving some
sort of a little history through the eyes of a
(48:12):
young twenty two to twenty three year old.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
God no, I couldn't wait to shoot at the Boston Garden.
It was just it was Austin you know.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
What I did when we played at the Spectrum. I
grew up a doctor j Fann, a Philly fan, sixer fan.
I went to the spot where Doc took off on
Cooper with the Roger Prad.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
But you didn't take off from there, did you not?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
But I went. I went. I've seen the play so
many times, and this is the beautiful thing about an
old building that has history. It's it's it's places, moments
that you see in your mind. So when I got there,
I envisioned the other side of the court. There was
Doc coming down, Cooper trying to get back, and he
(49:01):
takes off. But also when God did the reverse layup
on the Lakers behind the rim. See that you can't
get because the history tells the story and you try
to go relive it as a young player in those
old buildings, I mean, unbelieved in the form, just doing
(49:22):
the fast break with Magic Johnson to Byron Scott or
to Cooper Loop. You know what I mean. Those moments
man as raggedy as some may be, it's it's still
a beautiful thing when you're you're caught up into that history.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Always great to catch up with you. Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Always did I appreciate it? My friend enjoy Game three.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
That's Jim Jackson, Fox Turner, NBA analyst and fourteen year
veteran in the NBA. Take a break, close up shop
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