June 14, 2024 • 41 mins
Ross Tucker finishes off the week for Dan Patrick and reacts to Trevor Lawrence's gigantic extension with the Jaguars. Sports Illustrated Senior Writer Chris Mannix stops by to preview Game 4 of the NBA Finals. Plus, if the Danettes were in an eating contest, what would they eat?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know the funniest part of that open that you
guys put together every time I fill in, I don't
remember saying half those things, or maybe any of them.
Are we sure this isn't like AI generated and you guys,
I don't remember Vanessa Carlton. I don't really know who
Vanessa Carlton is. I don't remember the subject matter Djore.
(00:26):
I know what the subject matter Dajore is. Today we
are kicking off Father's Day weekend with a meet Friday.
You heard the man Ross Tucker filling in for Dan
here today on a meat Friday, which is pretty good
since you guys all call me meathead. James Vanderbeek. Great
to be back. I think it's probably been five or
six months since I've been in the big chair here,
(00:49):
one of my favorite things to do because the audience
is just incredible. I think most of you know by
now because I come on almost every week during the
football season. But former NFL offensive line I'm in five
team seven years. Not one of you remembers one memorable
thing from my playing career, but you know what, it
was enough to get me in this chair, so I
(01:10):
will take it. Forty five years old, haven't had to
get a real job yet, not really planning on getting one.
And yes, filling in for Dan. Being with the dan Nets,
especially on a meet Friday, is in fact as fun
as it looks. Paullie just surprised me in the morning meeting.
I'm already planning for what they're gonna have at lunch.
(01:33):
And the menu on a meet Friday. During the morning
meeting where we go over some of the topics, Pollie
brought out sausage and crispy bacon. It was like it
was like a sneak attack. Meet Friday breakfast, dessert. It's
a plate of morale to get the day gone. I
love it. What's on the menu for this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm glad you asked. We really catered it to what
you love. Handheld meats. We have both brats and Italian sausage.
I like Italian sausages, chili cheese dogs, a lot of
people love those. And a huge crock of barbecue bake
beans chock full of bacon as well.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Ooh, I love baked beans. And yes, I appreciate the
handheld because actually I'm not driving back to Pennsylvania for
the show. Today, I'll be driving back down to the
Jersey Shore where my family is, so probably even a
longer drive, but that will be awesome. I'll have several
of the handheld meets. You know what's not awesome, by
the way, what's going on with the hockey and NBA.
(02:32):
I mean the Stanley Cup Final. The Panthers beat the
Oilers last night. They're up three to zero. We've got
the Celtics taken on the Mavericks tonight. They're up three
to oho. This stinks. I mean, like, I don't really
care who wins these series. I grew up outside of Philadelphia.
I'm a Philly four for four fan, right so I
(02:54):
like the Sixers, the Flyers, the Phillies, the Eagles. I
just want these games to be competitive. I want these
series to be competitive. I love Game seven, like that
game seven Pacers Knicks, that was awesome. I want as
many close games as possible. I want as many close
series as possible for these finals, finals and final. I
(03:17):
love how the hockey calls the Stanley Cup Final not
the Stanley Cup Finals. To both have a really good
chance of being sweeps. Stinks. It's brutal is there anybody
out there that likes that is going to be a
sweet man? I'm assuming Florida Panthers fans and Celtics fans
they have to be the only people that are genuinely
happy this might be a sweep. PAULI.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, if you're a fan of the team that where
it's a grind to watch them in the title game
or the series, it's to get it over with. You're like, great,
get to the parade. It's like a stomach ache. But
if you're a national sports fan, it also makes these
these two finals, final and finals not that memorable. You know,
they won't be a one of the Oh look at
that all time great matchup between the Celtics and whomever
(03:58):
was in it. Games is memorable. Four games almost never memorable.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But Marv, what if I told you right now, I
guarantee your team is gonna win the series? Would you
rather the sweep in four or win it in seven.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I'm a glut for punishment, so I'm gonna say win
it in seven.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
No, wouldn't everybody wanted to win it in seven? If
you know your team's gonna still win, you would like
the drama. You would like a zillion people watching Game
seven and not knowing what's gonna happen. I feel like
even Celtics fans and Panthers fans, if they still knew
their team was gonna win, would rather there be more games.
Seat and you are a Celtics fan.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
But if there is no if you know your team's
gonna win, there is no drama, right yeah, So what
do we wait in the seven games where we know
we're gonna win?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Just do it in for right, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's kind of like a super Bowl that's a blowout.
While you could relax earlier, you could grab a beer
earlier if your team blows someone out in a super Bowl.
Remember back in the day when the Bills were getting
blown out in Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Every Super Bowl when I was growing up, from eighty
five to the Packers beat the until the Broncos beat
the Packers. Yeah, every Super bowls a bow.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The Bengals Niners is pretty good that Joe Montana to
John Taylor.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
We were showing a couple old Super Bowls on NFL
Network and they were over at halftime, like that one
with Doug Williams where they scored thirty five points. In
a quarter or something when.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The Bronco's up ten to nothing, yes, first of you,
wo and know first of you we're gonna chime in.
Yes they were.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
They were up ten to nine on the Giants, and
they were up ten to nothing on Washington and lost
badly in both of those games.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
PAULI had an interesting pole question yesterday.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
If you're say you're a Celtic THEND or a Panthers fan,
and you have tickets to Game five at home, do
you want.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The guaranteed sweep?
Speaker 6 (05:33):
What do you roll the dice on not knowing how
the series is gonna play out because you want to
go to Game five?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
If I have tickets for Game five, I roll the
dice because I probably also have tickets for Game seven.
What are the odds? I mean, look, we know there's
a sports books everywhere. They said odds on everything. What
are the odds? I mean, it's highly unlikely that either
one of these teams will blow it. I actually think
(05:59):
they opposite question is interesting, which is, let's pretend we're
MAVs fans or let's pretend we're Oilers fans. How important
is it to you guys that you don't get swept
or do you not really care? Do you almost just
want to get it over with at this point, because
you know, even if you win a token game four
(06:21):
like the Mavericks tonight or the Oilers tomorrow night, you're
still not gonna actually win this Yeries, You're just delaying.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
The inevitable, right, I think that's a good point. It's like,
if you're a Mavericks fan you get that win, is
it false hope or real hope? If you go back
to the four Alcs Yankees versus Red Sox, the Yankees
were killing them in the first three games they were
I think game three, the Red Sox lost like fifteen
to two to the Yankees or something, and the Red
Sox won Game four, and I remember the Boston media going, oh,
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we're delaying the inevitable. Can we get this over with?
They end up winning it one of the greatest comebacks
in sports history. But it's got to feel weird, Seaton.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I don't think it's about hope or delaying the inevitable
about pride.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
We didn't get swept. WHOA, I'll take the one win
all day because we didn't get swept. At least we
didn't get swept.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Certainly Seaton as a player. Definitely, that would be the mindset.
Hell yeah, I would be. I mean, watch tomorrow night,
watch those oilers come flying out of their skates. I
mean those guys. Those guys have so much pride. I
love hockey guys like they they will go down with
(07:31):
fist swinging. I mean they will go They will do
everything they can that They almost gave it a pretty
good run last night. They had those two, didn't McDavid
have two assists in the last period they made it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
They went from four to one to four to three. PAULI,
you played football. You played seven years eight years of football.
Were you ever shut out? And were you ever almost
shut out? And the difference between the.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Two, Yes, you know what so funny you say that.
I remember this and it still bothers me to this day.
I sometimes talk about it with my college teammate and roommate,
Kyle Brandt. Obviously, people know Angry runs Good Morning Football.
He was our running back. We lost to Colgate senior
(08:14):
year twenty eight. Nothing. The last drive of the game.
We got down to like the three yard line and
I don't know if we ran it three times and
threw it once or whatever. We didn't score, and it
was devastating. It was like so insulting, embarrassing. I will
(08:36):
say this though I tell the story sometimes when I
give like speaking engagements, there's like three minutes left in
the game, we're down twenty eight nothing. You learn a
lot in life about how you react to those situations.
I was trying to take out a Colgate kid every play, everybody,
because well, you have two choices, right, Like you stuck
your head between your your your legs and you think this, thanks,
(08:58):
we're gonna lose. You're like, the heck with these guys.
I don't care about these like they're gonna remember me.
They're gonna remember the Tucker. Remember that, Remember the Tucker.
They're gonna remember me for the rest of my life.
I'm gonna take I'll never forget. I cut this one
guy from the side pretty dirty, and our our offensive
line coach Dan Clayton staid, talk, you got to get
(09:21):
your head in front. I was like, yeah, no, that
was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So there's some future hedge fund manager with a limp
walking around right.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Now, probably probably watching the show that Tucker.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
That guy's a dirty player.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, as long as long as he still remember me,
he's probably watching the show like a lot of you
on Peacock or listening on all of our You guys
have remember remember the Tucker. We got about a zillion
radio stations Fox Sports Radio. Appreciate that. You can always
go to Danpatrick dot com. You can hit up at
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(09:58):
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a way you can engage with the show. Love those
of you that check us out a little bit later
on in the day via the podcast. I've got one
(10:21):
of those, the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. That's probably the
question I want to hear to start at eight seven,
seven to three DP Show. I want to know if
you're if you were the team that's down three to zero,
how important is it to you that you don't get
swept or is there part of you that just wanted
to be over with because the series is so disappointing
(10:45):
the fact that you're not going to be able to
get the championship is so disappointed. Does anybody feel that way.
The last thing I would say that I think is
really interesting. These leagues have to be losing a lot
of money. I mean, think about the extra for the networks,
the extra ad revenue. If it just goes to game
five or Game six or Game seven, there's a can
(11:08):
you imagine if like the Super Bowl ended at halftime,
you know, and they didn't have all the second half
of TV ads. It's gotta be so tempting for these
leagues to try to help it, help it in just
a little subtle way to get to Game five, six
or seven. Fritzy on the sweet thing.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And it's not just about pride not wanting to get swept.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
You want to win at least one game, but you
don't want them celebrating on your court. Whether you're a
fan or especially a player, with that bother you even more.
You got swept, and the Celtics are celebrating on the
Dallas floor, and the oh and the Panthers are celebrating
on the Oilers ice, it's got to make it even worse.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think there's part of that. But then on some level,
the flip side is it's like, Okay, yeah, they're celebrating
but they don't have any fans here. No one's like,
you know, it's not as cool of an experience for
the winning team if they do it on the road.
But you're right, there's a pride thing. It's like when
someone I'm on your logo at midfield, it's just kind
(12:02):
of a respecting I'm gonna say this. I don't think
they're both gonna get swept. I don't know if it's
the Mavericks tonight or I don't know if it's the
Oilers tomorrow night. I think one of those teams is
gonna step up and find a way to get a win.
By the way, Fritzy stepped up. In terms of our guests,
we'll have Chris Mannix to talk about all of this
(12:25):
NBA stuff at ten twenty am Eastern Time from Sports Illustrated.
After him, Darren Ravel, who a lot of you know,
sports business guy. Evident I didn't know this. Evidently, according
to Pauli, he's like the world's foremost expert on the
hot dogg eating contest. Paly. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Back in the day when we both all worked together
at ESPN, Darren used to go down to the Corny
Island for the Hot doggieting contest. He was like, you know,
the reporter there for the whole weekend. He's knee deep
in this, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So, by the way, for you guys, for the Dan Nets,
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also want to hear what food you would pick if
your life depended on an eating contest, if your life
(13:15):
depended on how successful or not you weren't. There's I
have two that are really tough to decide between that
I'll offer up when we come back. We also, by
the way of Steve Levy does the unbelievable job for ESPN,
especially on the hockey stuff. He'll join us eleven twenty
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(13:38):
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Yeah, we are rolling along here already on a meat
Friday edition of The Dan Patrick Show. I call it
when people ask me about filling in sometimes I call
it the fastest three hours in radio, because we just
started at nine.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm telling it's gonna be noon. I'm gonna be in
my car dipping Italian sausage in mustard, spicy mustard, of course,
trying to figure out how I'm gonna drink the beans
while I'm driving? That does that count as drinking and driving?
If you're drinking.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Beans, no, no alcohol.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I one are the chances I can drink beans on
the drive and not spill any you're want to drive home?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
How Come they never made cars where you know, when
you're in a those certain chairs on an airplane, your
tray comes out of the sidearm, y it goes across you.
If they made like SUVs where a tray went across
your lap, so you could eat either all parked fleet
or driving, I think that'd be a good option.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I've always wanted that I've always wanted the over the
top Sylvester Stallone thing where as he was driving the truck,
he's just coming down getting ready for bull like that
just a zillion times on his truck ride to Omaha.
I always thought, didn't he get like, wouldn't the one
arm get really over? Over usage?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
But that's that's armlessly.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. Remember when he turned his hat around. It was over, bro,
it was it was over when he turned his hat.
Don't even don't even try after he turned his hat around.
All right, So here's what we got. Okay, if you're
giving us a call eight seven seven to three DP Show,
or if you're hitting me up on social media at
(16:45):
Ross Tucker, NFL or US at DP show, we want
to know two things right now. We want to know
number one, how important it would be to you, as
the losing team fan that your team did not get wept,
as well as if you could only pick one food
item and your life depended on your place, success whatever
(17:12):
in an eating contest. What is the item that you
would pick and approximately how many do you think you
could eat. We are also going to get in this
Trevor Lawrence contract in a couple of minutes because that
is very, very interesting, Trevor Lawrence. If any of you
guys missed it yesterday, I want to say guys, I
mean guys and gals. I know there's a million amazing
(17:32):
ladies that listen or watch the show. He's now tied
with Joe Burrow for being the highest paid player in
NFL history, and I'm not sure that he's a top
ten quarterback. I think we can have that discussion. So
we're gonna do that momentary. But I gotta find out
from you guys, and I'll start with Fritzi. I almost
(17:53):
want to try to guess what Fritzie's would be. I'm
gonna guess, Fritzi, your item would be marshmallows. WHOA, that's
a tough one, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I'm gonna guess for Fritzi. And I think i'd bet
a week's pay on this little mini hot dogs.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I wrote down mini hot dogs and mini pizza bagels,
and I think I could eat about fifty mini hot.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Dogs a scene.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You eat it a second second, whole second, fifty maybe
seventy five.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I see like your your life depends on this fifty.
I call that Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
What's the time, what's the time.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
For how many minutes do you have to eat?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Is there a time?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Is there a clock?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Fifteen minutes? Fifteen minutes?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Okay, I think I can go seventy.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Five, I would hope, so goodness, I say one hundred.
That would be insane. I think I would something bad, right, Seaton,
of course, something bad can happen, but your life depends
on it. Setan, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
My initial reaction to this question was, well, I'm dead,
why because I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I can't eat that way. I just can't, Like I
really couldn't. You could put a whole bunch of things
in front of me, I'd be like, I have no
idea how many of those I could eat. But uh,
you know, maybe it's just because I've been, you know,
scarfing on it this morning.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But bacon, maybe I feel like I would need.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Things that I could that are small enough in size
that I could just eat a lot of them and
just keep going. Okay, you know what I mean, Like
bacon folds into a nice little, yeah, bite size morsel.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I think it would. Yeah, I mean like not to
go in like.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
A like a cartoon character. Right, Instead, you would fold
it almost like it's like a piece of gum.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, like a bite sized thing, and they take it.
The grease is a little concerning, not gonna oh.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, the grease is very down though, helps it go
down right, right, right right.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Marv, I'm gonna go General sous chicking.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh So, first of all, you never see those contests.
I always said General Sows? Is it Sows? How do
you pronounce the general's last name?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Freeze? I thought it was General Sao Sao?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
What did you say, Marv?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
sALS?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What am I saying?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Sos stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Not Sows.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's not general So's generals General Sad. I can eat, dude.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
We literally in college, I would say three out of
seven nights a week we would order General Sows. So
I don't even know which one it is. Now, General
Sows at like eleven thirty at night, Eat that at midnight.
I can't think of anything worse than just eating that
fried whatever breaded chicken at midnight. How much can you
(20:31):
take down, Marv oh Man, A ton?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Maybe like eleven.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Eleven what eleven pieces?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Eleven pieces? I'm like, I'm like seating. I'm not a
big like.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Orders now eleven pieces. That's called Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
We're not real men like you.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
My gosh die yes, correct, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
We're chucking theciation. Most importantly, when I get his rank,
correct General, When I get that out there, that's the
proper respect I have a So mostly is Soo is
the pronuncia?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's what I said, right, you were saying so I
was saying Soo. I think you said so You said so.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Don't play those punched in mind games with me.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I can't. I would think, hey, I need to know
you know what, During the break, we got to find
out why is it called General SAO's chicken? Right? Like?
Who is this general? That was like, hey, here's how
I want my chicken? Or I'm gonna kick you out
of the military, or.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He provided his troops a great uh you know orders
a chicken.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, why was it called General Soo's chicken?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
We're looking into it, Okay, PAULI, what's yours? I thought
about this. I could. I'm pretty decent this stuff eating big.
I would say, buffalo wings. You know, when I sit
there and eat twelve buffalo wings, it's a choice to
not go further. I could clearly go with twenty if I.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But again, think about how many people can't eat it? Like, yes,
I look at it, like what can you eat the
most compared to others?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh, I'm still gonna go buffalo wings. I'm gonna get
smoked in a professional competition, no pun but buffalo wings.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I could go to I collapse. We will talk about
this little bit later later with ravel. But two years
in a row, when I was playing for the Bills,
I went to the official buffalo wing eating contest. That is,
you know how they do it. They do it by weight.
It's not how many wings you eat. They bring out
like each thing is like fifteen pounds or ten pounds,
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and you eat as much as you can. You put
the bones back in and it's like, okay, he ate
eight pounds of meat. She ate twelve pounds. And both
years I was there, I don't remember her name, but
this woman, this like very very thin woman won. She
annihilated all these big dudes. It was unbelievably impressive. I'm
(22:49):
sure one of the listeners or somebody on social media
at DP show at Ross Tucker, NFL knows the answer.
All right, do you guys want.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
To get Sonia Thomas?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Sonia Thomas, Yeah, Legendia Thomas.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, a legend of a competitive eating Yes, she.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Is a She literally would sit there and crush ten
pounds of wings and go like this at the end,
like with a with a paper towel, like clean up
her mouth area and be done.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Marv Bigger Thomas legend in Buffalo Sonya or Thurmy Thurman?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
A question Thurman, But I feel like I'm more impressed
by what Sonya did that? Dermot. Oh, he's just a
pro football Hall of Fame running back.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The one you saw her in the United US Chicken
wing eating contest in Buffalo, New York, a good fifteen
years ago. She ate one hundred and eighty three wings
in twelve minutes. Yeah, they only do it in twelve minutes.
Seven point six pounds of wings.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yep, think about that, eight almost eight pounds of wings
in twelve minutes. All right, if you guys had to
guess what my what my food is? What would you guess?
I have two that I can't decide between, and they're
very different. Any we want to take a guess, gotta
be brats, fritzy.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Meatballs, like those small meatballs like you would see with spaghetti.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It was not giant meatballs.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Okay, anybody else want to guess, I don't think you'll
guess either one.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Yeah, I mean, bratze is gonna be the first one
for me too.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Sausage links, Nope, Polly not vegetable.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Both of them are are surprising. The top one scrambled
cheese eggs, and I think I'm top ten in the world.
I eat like I will make myself a dozen to
fifteen scrambled cheese eggs and eat them like on a
Sunday morning.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Like currently at this fighting weight.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, so I could have I could eat two dozen
scrambled cheese eggs without any question.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Like if you went to one of those hotels where
they have a continental breakfast.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The whole tray is scrambled cheese eggs. Be good TV ye,
all right, and then what do you think? The other
one is very different? The other one. I'm like somewhat
addicted to chocolate covered pretzels. Whoa chocolate cover? If you
brought over like a couple of bags of chocolate cover pretzels,
I could just keep going forever. I would actually like
to know how long I could go before I would
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actually say no more. It would be more of an
arm issue than a mouth or stomach issue, everything would
be all right. All right, let's get to uh, let's
get to this Trevor Lawrence story, because some of you
might have missed it. You know, it's June thirteenth, Paul.
You got the exact numbers, yea, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Lawrence five years, two hundred and seventy five million, thirty
seven million dollars signing bonus. The guaranteed money, which is
the most important thing, is two hundred million dollars, and
he gets one hundred and forty two million of it
in the first half of the contents.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So here's how it works. He's getting one hundred and
forty two million dollars no matter what. He gets two
hundred million dollars if he basically suffers a curR ending injury.
So two hundred million is guaranteed for injury. One hundred
and forty two million is guaranteed no matter what.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, he gets fifty five million, which ties with Joe
Burrow for the average annual salary of the highest in
the league. That passes Goff, Herbert Lamar, Jackson, Jalen Hurts
in Mahomes. He's ahead of all those guys.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's so weird because it feels like there's no in between,
there's no middle ground. The team either moves on from
you or they say, Yep, this is the guy we
want starting a quarterback for a long time, and they
pay them this type of money. I mean, I don't
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know if he is a top ten quarterback in the NFL.
He certainly did not play like one last year. And
what's so interesting to me about that is he's under
contract for two more years. I mean, he's got he
was he had the last year of his rookie contract
coming up, and then they had the fifth year option.
But these teams, I think, once they decide that this
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is what we're gonna do, this is who we're going
going with, they want to get It's almost like they
want to pay him as soon as possible before it
goes up even more. Because now the price just one
up for Tua, the price just one up for Jordan Love. Heck,
even guys like Dak and Matthew Stafford who are looking
for new deals are probably thrilled. Paulie.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Like you said, it seems like there's two directions for
a quarterback, especially a first round quarterback. You get to
year three, you either pick up the fifth year option,
and that's your franchise direction and you have to pay
the going rate, which is the next highest of all time.
Or you like Mitch Trubisky with the Bears or Jamis
Winston with the Bucks. They say we're moving on, and
we did three years. We gave it a try, and
we're moving on and going into the production. There's no
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middle ground for that second contract.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The only middle ground guy I can think of right
now is like Baker Mayfield. He signed three years, one
hundred mil. He's getting thirty three million year. Everybody else
it's like your fifty million plus or you're less than
ten million. I would love to know how many quarterbacks?
Can we look that up? Do we have a stat person?
How many quarterbacks are making between ten and forty million
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dollars a year? It cannot be very many. I want
to get some of the callers involved as well. Eight
seven seven three DP show and I'll check out your
social post to me as well. At Ross Tucker, NFL, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
PAULI Ross hear the football Analyst, Trevor Lawrence. His first year,
everyone gives a hall pass because an urban Meyer his
second year, four thousand yards, twenty five touchdowns, eight picks.
He's hit his stride. Last year he drops to twenty
one touchdowns and goes up to fourteen picks. Does he
feel like a guy worth two hundred fifty million dollars?
Speaker 9 (28:33):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
However, I think you could argue that a true franchise
quarterback in the NFL is still undervalued because you either
have one or you don't, and if you don't have one,
you have absolutely no chance. Trevor Lawrence proved last year.
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I guess two years ago now he could come from
behind and win a playoff game against a fellow young
star quarterback like Justin Herbert. And if people forget, he
and the Jags actually played pretty well in the divisional
round out in Kansas City. So Trevor Lawrence proved to
the Jags that year that he's capable of winning playoff
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games and being in the mix with guys like Mahomes,
even if he's not as good. Let's go to Andrew
who's in Washington? Take our first call to day eight,
seven to seven to three DP show Andrew what's up man?
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Hey Ross Tucker, Welcome to the Dan Paffick Show. Always
great to see in the big chair. Good morning, Dan
Ed's Happy Meet Friday to you all. You hit it
on the head. I'm not sure if Trevor Lawrence he
is not a top ten quarterback. A few weeks back,
maybe ten to fourteen days, Dan had Mike Tannenbaum on,
and Mike Tannonbaum said it was an easy choice Jordan
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Love all day. Now, he might have put Jordan Love
a little too high on his list, but again, you know,
he just set the bar even higher. Trevor Lawrence ranks
top ten in besides yearly salary now and guaranteed money
is his like sixty one giveaways in three seasons. That
runs him like twelfth all time. So yeah, he's up there.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And you know, and Andrew, you know what's funny, by
the way, and I appreciate the call. You know what's funny.
I had Greg Cosel the NFL Films legend. I have
him on the Ross Soccer Football podcast every week, and
I think it was last week or maybe the week before.
His exact quote, guys was we need to start to
lower the expectations for Trevor Lawrence. And his point was
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because he was the number one recruit in high school
for multiple years, because he won the National Championship at
Clemson as a true freshman, and because he was number
one overall pick, people talked about him like he's a
generational quarterback, like a once every twenty years guy. He's
not Josh Allen, He's not Mahomes. I mean, he's a
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good player. But I think Greg's point was that he
maybe got a little overhyped. I don't know that we are.
I mean, the Jaguars certainly aren't lowering the expectations at
this point with the contract that they just gave him.
We're not lowering the standards of the show. We're gonna
have Chris Mannix because we got to talk about the
NBA Finals, what to expect from the Mavericks tonight. Just
(31:24):
how good is this Celtics group. What's the latest with Luca?
I mean, people were just eviscerating Luca after Game three
a couple nights ago. We'll talk about it with Chris
Mannix from Sports Illustrated thirty eight minutes past the hour
here on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
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Speaker 2 (31:50):
WAP man, I love when friends or colleagues are listening.
General So's chicken is named for are So sung tongue
now usually transliterated as well. I'm not even gonna try
with that one, a formidable nineteenth century general who is
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said to have enjoyed eating it. Via NPR via My
Ross Tucker Podcast producer Jack Connell. Thank you Jack for
listening or watching on Peacock. Speaking of food, before we
get into the NBA stuff, we got to ask Chris Mannix,
who does an absolutely terrific job covering the NBA and
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has for a long time. You can check him out
on social media at SI. Chris mannis obviously doing it
for Sports Illustrated for a long time at this point. Chris.
Always good to talk with you, man, Always good to
see you. We're starting the show talking about food, of course,
because it's a meat Friday. We got Darren Ravello on
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a little bit later in the show to talk about
the hot dog eating contest. Let's say you had to
be in an eating contest and your life depended on it.
You had to win, you had to be a top
five or whatever. What food would you pick? Chris, compared
to other normal people.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
I mean, the short answer is pizza, because I could
go through a large pie faster I think anybody I know.
The more granular answer is the buffalo chicken sandwich from
the Fours in Boston. The fors is a kind of
famous sports bar in the Boston area, and at one
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point when I was living around there, I would eat
probably three or four of those a week. It's actually
called the Doug Flutie in Boston. It's named for, of course,
the great XBC quarterback, and I could probably hoover that
in about fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I actually just thought of something about these eating contests.
Would you have a couple beers ahead of time? Because
after I've had a couple of beers and I'm hungry,
I can eat like an absolute ravishing mad ma. So
it fills up your stomach a little bit. But man,
when you're hungry, you've had you've been drinking for a
couple hours, you can really eat.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Thoughts, Yeah, but I don't think that helps you in
the moment, right, Like, you get hungry after you know,
eight to ten beers and you get home, and the
idea of ordering like a whopper sounds like a good
one in the moment, though, you're just adding stuff to
your stomach, So the only thing I'd want is a
little bit of water to help wash that down.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
All right, let's get into the NBA stuff. Chris, thank
you by the way for humoring me.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
There.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I like it. Let's start with I guess the question
in my mind, which is are the Celtics just this
good or are the Mavericks kind of choking a little
bit here in the finals.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
I think it's more about the Celtics being this good.
I mean, going on a twelve and two run during
the conference playoffs, up three to nothing in this round.
You have to start with just how good they are.
They were, you know, historically good in some ways during
the regular season. Their point differential was fantastic. Their offense
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was you know, clicking at you know, in some areas
all time great rate. They were the most prolific three
point shooting team in the NBA. They were just I
think it was a fraction of a percentage from being
the number one team in efficiency in that area as well.
They they are great. They've got great offensive players, they've
got elite wing defenders. You really have to to go
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deep into the Celtics bench to find any real areas
of weakness and on top of all that, like they've
got the experience that comes with kind of you know,
going through the highs and lows of.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Being a contender in recent years.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
They lost in the finals two years ago, they lost
in the conference finals last year. They're kind of the
the the perfect combination of when talent and opportunity and
preparation kind of meat each other at one point.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How sustainable is this chrift? Like I don't know all
their contracts and what they've got for next year. I mean,
is this a group that's going to be able to
stay together the next few years?
Speaker 9 (36:10):
So the NBA has done a fantastic job of trying
to legislate dynasties out of the sport. Like, you know,
dynasties over the last twenty years have been fun to
talk about. Whether it's the Lakers dynasty in the early
two thousands, San Antonio had one that's spread out over
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twelve to fourteen years. Miami was a mini dynasty, most
recently Golden State. They make for great TV ratings, but
the NBA doesn't love them because the NBA, you know,
really going back to the days of David stern as
commissioner has sought NFL style parody, and look, this year
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is going to be the sixth year in a row
there has been a new NBA champion crowned, and that's
what the NBA loves like. They want new faces teams
in the finals every single year. All that being said,
the Celtics are as equipped as any team in recent
memory to run off two, maybe three championships.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
They're stars.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are under contract for the
long term. Jalen Brown just signed what was the richest
contract in NBA history last summer, and Jason Tatum is
about to sign what's going to be the richest contract
in NBA history this summer. Drew Holliday has an extension.
Christaps porzingis got an extension. Derek White's the one guy
(37:33):
who's only got one year left on his contract. But
if the Celtics win a championship, there's no doubt in
my mind that Wick grouse Beck and ownership in Boston
is going to extend him as well. So you've got
a bunch of guys in their twenties and early thirties. Yeah,
you gotta worry about Al Horford, who's thirty eight years
old and how long he can go. But this is
a window Russ that I think is open for two
(37:56):
or three more years.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Let's look at the other side of it, which is
Luka and the MAVs and Kyrie. What's going on here?
And do you think that the critique of Luca has
gone a little bit too far?
Speaker 9 (38:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
And look during Game three, I was on social media
tweeting that, you know, as great as Luca is on
the other end of the floor, defensively, it's oftentimes like
playing five on four, like he's just not engaged on
that end. And what the Celtics are doing, which very
few of the Western Conference contenders did, is they're attacking him.
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Like you watch these games and they're putting Luca in
a whole lot of actions, making him defend on that
end of the floor. They're doing the same thing to
Kyrie Irving, but I think Irving's having a little more
success defensively Lucas. It's just there's just not a lot
of effort on that end of the floor. And you
can say, look, he's been banged up. He assumes a
lot of the offensive burden. But in order for Dallas
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to be a consistent championship contender in order for them
to even win a championship over the next four or
five years, Luca has got to become more of a
two way player. He doesn't have to become a defensive stopper,
but he can't be a defensive liability, which he is
right now. Now Beyond Luca, there are other problems the
Mavericks have. Their supporting cast has been non existent. You
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look at some of the numbers for PJ. Washington, for
Derek Jones Junior, for Daniel Gafford, for Maxi Kleeber, for
Josh Green. None of these guys have been impact players.
Derek Lively was impactful last game for the first time
really all series. So you know, there's been an argument
that Luca and Kyrie are the greatest offensive backcourt in
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nb history. Even if you think they are, you can't
win at the highest level without your role players stepping up.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Look at Boston's role players.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
Drew Holiday has been fantastic. Derek White at sixteen points
in the last game. Sam Houser has shot lights out
in two of the three games of this series. The Celtics,
in addition to their stars showing up, are getting outstanding
performances from their role players, whereas Dallases have barely shown up.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You gotta check him out on social media. He is fantastic,
as you can tell. He is all over the NBA,
has been for a long time at SI. Chris Mannis
Chris really appreciate the time, man, Thank you so much.
You got it. Russ. Two interesting notes, by the way,
about the Celtics and Chris mannis number one. He was
a ball boy for them growing up for a long time,
(40:33):
which is always going to be a little interesting because
he's worked in the business so long now that you
disassociate with that for the most part. But it's interesting.
I grew up a huge Eagles fan. They never wanted me.
I never played for them, but now that I do
their preseason games and do other work for them, it
kind of comes back a little bit each year. Plus
(40:55):
it's hard, like all my family and friends are diehards,
and so it becomes a social thing, you know, it
becomes I want to have something to engage with with
my friends and family.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Pauli and Mannix was there in the early nineties working
equipment and he would go out and he would set
up the other team, the other team's locker room, the
other thing, the other team that was his designation. So
there's pictures of him. He's got where he's on the
court during warmups with his arm against Michael Jordan's back,
helping him work on shots, or because he called him
over and you're supposed to help out how they want.
It's weird. He's got pictures of him with like Ray
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Allen where he's pushing against his back, or he's got
stories about doing stuff with Alan Iverson. I mean, his
stories are fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
By the way, I at one point in my life
I was a part owner of the Boston Celtics. My
dad gave me like a piece of stock, remember that
used to be publicly traded. For Christmas. One year, I
got a share of Boston Celtics stocks. So I gotta
tell you, I'm feeling really good about winning this championship tonight.
Hopefully one hour down, two to go. Stay at Patrick
(41:57):
Show on a meet Friday,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know the funniest part of that open that you
guys put together every time I fill in, I don't
remember saying half those things, or maybe any of them.
Are we sure this isn't like AI generated and you guys,
I don't remember Vanessa Carlton. I don't really know who
Vanessa Carlton is. I don't remember the subject matter Djore.
(00:26):
I know what the subject matter Dajore is. Today we
are kicking off Father's Day weekend with a meet Friday.
You heard the man Ross Tucker filling in for Dan
here today on a meat Friday, which is pretty good
since you guys all call me meathead. James Vanderbeek. Great
to be back. I think it's probably been five or
six months since I've been in the big chair here,
(00:49):
one of my favorite things to do because the audience
is just incredible. I think most of you know by
now because I come on almost every week during the
football season. But former NFL offensive line I'm in five
team seven years. Not one of you remembers one memorable
thing from my playing career, but you know what, it
was enough to get me in this chair, so I
(01:10):
will take it. Forty five years old, haven't had to
get a real job yet, not really planning on getting one.
And yes, filling in for Dan. Being with the dan Nets,
especially on a meet Friday, is in fact as fun
as it looks. Paullie just surprised me in the morning meeting.
I'm already planning for what they're gonna have at lunch.
(01:33):
And the menu on a meet Friday. During the morning
meeting where we go over some of the topics, Pollie
brought out sausage and crispy bacon. It was like it
was like a sneak attack. Meet Friday breakfast, dessert. It's
a plate of morale to get the day gone. I
love it. What's on the menu for this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm glad you asked. We really catered it to what
you love. Handheld meats. We have both brats and Italian sausage.
I like Italian sausages, chili cheese dogs, a lot of
people love those. And a huge crock of barbecue bake
beans chock full of bacon as well.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Ooh, I love baked beans. And yes, I appreciate the
handheld because actually I'm not driving back to Pennsylvania for
the show. Today, I'll be driving back down to the
Jersey Shore where my family is, so probably even a
longer drive, but that will be awesome. I'll have several
of the handheld meets. You know what's not awesome, by
the way, what's going on with the hockey and NBA.
(02:32):
I mean the Stanley Cup Final. The Panthers beat the
Oilers last night. They're up three to zero. We've got
the Celtics taken on the Mavericks tonight. They're up three
to oho. This stinks. I mean, like, I don't really
care who wins these series. I grew up outside of Philadelphia.
I'm a Philly four for four fan, right so I
(02:54):
like the Sixers, the Flyers, the Phillies, the Eagles. I
just want these games to be competitive. I want these
series to be competitive. I love Game seven, like that
game seven Pacers Knicks, that was awesome. I want as
many close games as possible. I want as many close
series as possible for these finals, finals and final. I
(03:17):
love how the hockey calls the Stanley Cup Final not
the Stanley Cup Finals. To both have a really good
chance of being sweeps. Stinks. It's brutal is there anybody
out there that likes that is going to be a
sweet man? I'm assuming Florida Panthers fans and Celtics fans
they have to be the only people that are genuinely
happy this might be a sweep. PAULI.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, if you're a fan of the team that where
it's a grind to watch them in the title game
or the series, it's to get it over with. You're like, great,
get to the parade. It's like a stomach ache. But
if you're a national sports fan, it also makes these
these two finals, final and finals not that memorable. You know,
they won't be a one of the Oh look at
that all time great matchup between the Celtics and whomever
(03:58):
was in it. Games is memorable. Four games almost never memorable.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But Marv, what if I told you right now, I
guarantee your team is gonna win the series? Would you
rather the sweep in four or win it in seven.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I'm a glut for punishment, so I'm gonna say win
it in seven.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
No, wouldn't everybody wanted to win it in seven? If
you know your team's gonna still win, you would like
the drama. You would like a zillion people watching Game
seven and not knowing what's gonna happen. I feel like
even Celtics fans and Panthers fans, if they still knew
their team was gonna win, would rather there be more games.
Seat and you are a Celtics fan.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
But if there is no if you know your team's
gonna win, there is no drama, right yeah, So what
do we wait in the seven games where we know
we're gonna win?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Just do it in for right, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's kind of like a super Bowl that's a blowout.
While you could relax earlier, you could grab a beer
earlier if your team blows someone out in a super Bowl.
Remember back in the day when the Bills were getting
blown out in Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Every Super Bowl when I was growing up, from eighty
five to the Packers beat the until the Broncos beat
the Packers. Yeah, every Super bowls a bow.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
The Bengals Niners is pretty good that Joe Montana to
John Taylor.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
We were showing a couple old Super Bowls on NFL
Network and they were over at halftime, like that one
with Doug Williams where they scored thirty five points. In
a quarter or something when.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The Bronco's up ten to nothing, yes, first of you,
wo and know first of you we're gonna chime in.
Yes they were.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
They were up ten to nine on the Giants, and
they were up ten to nothing on Washington and lost
badly in both of those games.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
PAULI had an interesting pole question yesterday.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
If you're say you're a Celtic THEND or a Panthers fan,
and you have tickets to Game five at home, do
you want.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The guaranteed sweep?
Speaker 6 (05:33):
What do you roll the dice on not knowing how
the series is gonna play out because you want to
go to Game five?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
If I have tickets for Game five, I roll the
dice because I probably also have tickets for Game seven.
What are the odds? I mean, look, we know there's
a sports books everywhere. They said odds on everything. What
are the odds? I mean, it's highly unlikely that either
one of these teams will blow it. I actually think
(05:59):
they opposite question is interesting, which is, let's pretend we're
MAVs fans or let's pretend we're Oilers fans. How important
is it to you guys that you don't get swept
or do you not really care? Do you almost just
want to get it over with at this point, because
you know, even if you win a token game four
(06:21):
like the Mavericks tonight or the Oilers tomorrow night, you're
still not gonna actually win this Yeries, You're just delaying.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
The inevitable, right, I think that's a good point. It's like,
if you're a Mavericks fan you get that win, is
it false hope or real hope? If you go back
to the four Alcs Yankees versus Red Sox, the Yankees
were killing them in the first three games they were
I think game three, the Red Sox lost like fifteen
to two to the Yankees or something, and the Red
Sox won Game four, and I remember the Boston media going, oh,
(06:48):
we're delaying the inevitable. Can we get this over with?
They end up winning it one of the greatest comebacks
in sports history. But it's got to feel weird, Seaton.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I don't think it's about hope or delaying the inevitable
about pride.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
We didn't get swept. WHOA, I'll take the one win
all day because we didn't get swept. At least we
didn't get swept.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Certainly Seaton as a player. Definitely, that would be the mindset.
Hell yeah, I would be. I mean, watch tomorrow night,
watch those oilers come flying out of their skates. I
mean those guys. Those guys have so much pride. I
love hockey guys like they they will go down with
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fist swinging. I mean they will go They will do
everything they can that They almost gave it a pretty
good run last night. They had those two, didn't McDavid
have two assists in the last period they made it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
They went from four to one to four to three. PAULI,
you played football. You played seven years eight years of football.
Were you ever shut out? And were you ever almost
shut out? And the difference between the.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Two, Yes, you know what so funny you say that.
I remember this and it still bothers me to this day.
I sometimes talk about it with my college teammate and roommate,
Kyle Brandt. Obviously, people know Angry runs Good Morning Football.
He was our running back. We lost to Colgate senior
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year twenty eight. Nothing. The last drive of the game.
We got down to like the three yard line and
I don't know if we ran it three times and
threw it once or whatever. We didn't score, and it
was devastating. It was like so insulting, embarrassing. I will
(08:36):
say this though I tell the story sometimes when I
give like speaking engagements, there's like three minutes left in
the game, we're down twenty eight nothing. You learn a
lot in life about how you react to those situations.
I was trying to take out a Colgate kid every play, everybody,
because well, you have two choices, right, Like you stuck
your head between your your your legs and you think this, thanks,
(08:58):
we're gonna lose. You're like, the heck with these guys.
I don't care about these like they're gonna remember me.
They're gonna remember the Tucker. Remember that, Remember the Tucker.
They're gonna remember me for the rest of my life.
I'm gonna take I'll never forget. I cut this one
guy from the side pretty dirty, and our our offensive
line coach Dan Clayton staid, talk, you got to get
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was on purpose.
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question I want to hear to start at eight seven,
seven to three DP Show. I want to know if
you're if you were the team that's down three to zero,
how important is it to you that you don't get
swept or is there part of you that just wanted
to be over with because the series is so disappointing
(10:45):
the fact that you're not going to be able to
get the championship is so disappointed. Does anybody feel that way.
The last thing I would say that I think is
really interesting. These leagues have to be losing a lot
of money. I mean, think about the extra for the networks,
the extra ad revenue. If it just goes to game
five or Game six or Game seven, there's a can
(11:08):
you imagine if like the Super Bowl ended at halftime,
you know, and they didn't have all the second half
of TV ads. It's gotta be so tempting for these
leagues to try to help it, help it in just
a little subtle way to get to Game five, six
or seven. Fritzy on the sweet thing.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And it's not just about pride not wanting to get swept.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
You want to win at least one game, but you
don't want them celebrating on your court. Whether you're a
fan or especially a player, with that bother you even more.
You got swept, and the Celtics are celebrating on the
Dallas floor, and the oh and the Panthers are celebrating
on the Oilers ice, it's got to make it even worse.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think there's part of that. But then on some level,
the flip side is it's like, Okay, yeah, they're celebrating
but they don't have any fans here. No one's like,
you know, it's not as cool of an experience for
the winning team if they do it on the road.
But you're right, there's a pride thing. It's like when
someone I'm on your logo at midfield, it's just kind
(12:02):
of a respecting I'm gonna say this. I don't think
they're both gonna get swept. I don't know if it's
the Mavericks tonight or I don't know if it's the
Oilers tomorrow night. I think one of those teams is
gonna step up and find a way to get a win.
By the way, Fritzy stepped up. In terms of our guests,
we'll have Chris Mannix to talk about all of this
(12:25):
NBA stuff at ten twenty am Eastern Time from Sports Illustrated.
After him, Darren Ravel, who a lot of you know,
sports business guy. Evident I didn't know this. Evidently, according
to Pauli, he's like the world's foremost expert on the
hot dogg eating contest. Paly. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Back in the day when we both all worked together
at ESPN, Darren used to go down to the Corny
Island for the Hot doggieting contest. He was like, you know,
the reporter there for the whole weekend. He's knee deep
in this, all right.
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your life depended on an eating contest, if your life
(13:15):
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Yeah, we are rolling along here already on a meat
Friday edition of The Dan Patrick Show. I call it
when people ask me about filling in sometimes I call
it the fastest three hours in radio, because we just
started at nine.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm telling it's gonna be noon. I'm gonna be in
my car dipping Italian sausage in mustard, spicy mustard, of course,
trying to figure out how I'm gonna drink the beans
while I'm driving? That does that count as drinking and driving?
If you're drinking.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Beans, no, no alcohol.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I one are the chances I can drink beans on
the drive and not spill any you're want to drive home?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
How Come they never made cars where you know, when
you're in a those certain chairs on an airplane, your
tray comes out of the sidearm, y it goes across you.
If they made like SUVs where a tray went across
your lap, so you could eat either all parked fleet
or driving, I think that'd be a good option.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I've always wanted that I've always wanted the over the
top Sylvester Stallone thing where as he was driving the truck,
he's just coming down getting ready for bull like that
just a zillion times on his truck ride to Omaha.
I always thought, didn't he get like, wouldn't the one
arm get really over? Over usage?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
But that's that's armlessly.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. Remember when he turned his hat around. It was over, bro,
it was it was over when he turned his hat.
Don't even don't even try after he turned his hat around.
All right, So here's what we got. Okay, if you're
giving us a call eight seven seven to three DP Show,
or if you're hitting me up on social media at
(16:45):
Ross Tucker, NFL or US at DP show, we want
to know two things right now. We want to know
number one, how important it would be to you, as
the losing team fan that your team did not get wept,
as well as if you could only pick one food
item and your life depended on your place, success whatever
(17:12):
in an eating contest. What is the item that you
would pick and approximately how many do you think you
could eat. We are also going to get in this
Trevor Lawrence contract in a couple of minutes because that
is very, very interesting, Trevor Lawrence. If any of you
guys missed it yesterday, I want to say guys, I
mean guys and gals. I know there's a million amazing
(17:32):
ladies that listen or watch the show. He's now tied
with Joe Burrow for being the highest paid player in
NFL history, and I'm not sure that he's a top
ten quarterback. I think we can have that discussion. So
we're gonna do that momentary. But I gotta find out
from you guys, and I'll start with Fritzi. I almost
(17:53):
want to try to guess what Fritzie's would be. I'm
gonna guess, Fritzi, your item would be marshmallows. WHOA, that's
a tough one, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I'm gonna guess for Fritzi. And I think i'd bet
a week's pay on this little mini hot dogs.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I wrote down mini hot dogs and mini pizza bagels,
and I think I could eat about fifty mini hot.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Dogs a scene.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You eat it a second second, whole second, fifty maybe
seventy five.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I see like your your life depends on this fifty.
I call that Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
What's the time, what's the time.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
For how many minutes do you have to eat?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Is there a time?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Is there a clock?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Fifteen minutes? Fifteen minutes?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Okay, I think I can go seventy.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Five, I would hope, so goodness, I say one hundred.
That would be insane. I think I would something bad, right, Seaton,
of course, something bad can happen, but your life depends
on it. Setan, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
My initial reaction to this question was, well, I'm dead,
why because I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I can't eat that way. I just can't, Like I
really couldn't. You could put a whole bunch of things
in front of me, I'd be like, I have no
idea how many of those I could eat. But uh,
you know, maybe it's just because I've been, you know,
scarfing on it this morning.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But bacon, maybe I feel like I would need.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Things that I could that are small enough in size
that I could just eat a lot of them and
just keep going. Okay, you know what I mean, Like
bacon folds into a nice little, yeah, bite size morsel.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I think it would. Yeah, I mean like not to
go in like.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
A like a cartoon character. Right, Instead, you would fold
it almost like it's like a piece of gum.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, like a bite sized thing, and they take it.
The grease is a little concerning, not gonna oh.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, the grease is very down though, helps it go
down right, right, right right.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Marv, I'm gonna go General sous chicking.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh So, first of all, you never see those contests.
I always said General Sows? Is it Sows? How do
you pronounce the general's last name?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Freeze? I thought it was General Sao Sao?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
What did you say, Marv?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
sALS?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What am I saying?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Sos stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Not Sows.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's not general So's generals General Sad. I can eat, dude.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
We literally in college, I would say three out of
seven nights a week we would order General Sows. So
I don't even know which one it is. Now, General
Sows at like eleven thirty at night, Eat that at midnight.
I can't think of anything worse than just eating that
fried whatever breaded chicken at midnight. How much can you
(20:31):
take down, Marv oh Man, A ton?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Maybe like eleven.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Eleven what eleven pieces?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Eleven pieces? I'm like, I'm like seating. I'm not a
big like.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Orders now eleven pieces. That's called Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
We're not real men like you.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
My gosh die yes, correct, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
We're chucking theciation. Most importantly, when I get his rank,
correct General, When I get that out there, that's the
proper respect I have a So mostly is Soo is
the pronuncia?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's what I said, right, you were saying so I
was saying Soo. I think you said so You said so.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Don't play those punched in mind games with me.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I can't. I would think, hey, I need to know
you know what, During the break, we got to find
out why is it called General SAO's chicken? Right? Like?
Who is this general? That was like, hey, here's how
I want my chicken? Or I'm gonna kick you out
of the military, or.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He provided his troops a great uh you know orders
a chicken.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, why was it called General Soo's chicken?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
We're looking into it, Okay, PAULI, what's yours? I thought
about this. I could. I'm pretty decent this stuff eating big.
I would say, buffalo wings. You know, when I sit
there and eat twelve buffalo wings, it's a choice to
not go further. I could clearly go with twenty if I.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But again, think about how many people can't eat it? Like, yes,
I look at it, like what can you eat the
most compared to others?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh, I'm still gonna go buffalo wings. I'm gonna get
smoked in a professional competition, no pun but buffalo wings.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I could go to I collapse. We will talk about
this little bit later later with ravel. But two years
in a row, when I was playing for the Bills,
I went to the official buffalo wing eating contest. That is,
you know how they do it. They do it by weight.
It's not how many wings you eat. They bring out
like each thing is like fifteen pounds or ten pounds,
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and you eat as much as you can. You put
the bones back in and it's like, okay, he ate
eight pounds of meat. She ate twelve pounds. And both
years I was there, I don't remember her name, but
this woman, this like very very thin woman won. She
annihilated all these big dudes. It was unbelievably impressive. I'm
(22:49):
sure one of the listeners or somebody on social media
at DP show at Ross Tucker, NFL knows the answer.
All right, do you guys want.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
To get Sonia Thomas?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Sonia Thomas, Yeah, Legendia Thomas.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, a legend of a competitive eating Yes, she.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Is a She literally would sit there and crush ten
pounds of wings and go like this at the end,
like with a with a paper towel, like clean up
her mouth area and be done.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Marv Bigger Thomas legend in Buffalo Sonya or Thurmy Thurman?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
A question Thurman, But I feel like I'm more impressed
by what Sonya did that? Dermot. Oh, he's just a
pro football Hall of Fame running back.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
The one you saw her in the United US Chicken
wing eating contest in Buffalo, New York, a good fifteen
years ago. She ate one hundred and eighty three wings
in twelve minutes. Yeah, they only do it in twelve minutes.
Seven point six pounds of wings.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yep, think about that, eight almost eight pounds of wings
in twelve minutes. All right, if you guys had to
guess what my what my food is? What would you guess?
I have two that I can't decide between, and they're
very different. Any we want to take a guess, gotta
be brats, fritzy.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Meatballs, like those small meatballs like you would see with spaghetti.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It was not giant meatballs.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Okay, anybody else want to guess, I don't think you'll
guess either one.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Yeah, I mean, bratze is gonna be the first one
for me too.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Sausage links, Nope, Polly not vegetable.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Both of them are are surprising. The top one scrambled
cheese eggs, and I think I'm top ten in the world.
I eat like I will make myself a dozen to
fifteen scrambled cheese eggs and eat them like on a
Sunday morning.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Like currently at this fighting weight.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, so I could have I could eat two dozen
scrambled cheese eggs without any question.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Like if you went to one of those hotels where
they have a continental breakfast.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The whole tray is scrambled cheese eggs. Be good TV ye,
all right, and then what do you think? The other
one is very different? The other one. I'm like somewhat
addicted to chocolate covered pretzels. Whoa chocolate cover? If you
brought over like a couple of bags of chocolate cover pretzels,
I could just keep going forever. I would actually like
to know how long I could go before I would
(25:12):
actually say no more. It would be more of an
arm issue than a mouth or stomach issue, everything would
be all right. All right, let's get to uh, let's
get to this Trevor Lawrence story, because some of you
might have missed it. You know, it's June thirteenth, Paul.
You got the exact numbers, yea, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Lawrence five years, two hundred and seventy five million, thirty
seven million dollars signing bonus. The guaranteed money, which is
the most important thing, is two hundred million dollars, and
he gets one hundred and forty two million of it
in the first half of the contents.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So here's how it works. He's getting one hundred and
forty two million dollars no matter what. He gets two
hundred million dollars if he basically suffers a curR ending injury.
So two hundred million is guaranteed for injury. One hundred
and forty two million is guaranteed no matter what.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, he gets fifty five million, which ties with Joe
Burrow for the average annual salary of the highest in
the league. That passes Goff, Herbert Lamar, Jackson, Jalen Hurts
in Mahomes. He's ahead of all those guys.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's so weird because it feels like there's no in between,
there's no middle ground. The team either moves on from
you or they say, Yep, this is the guy we
want starting a quarterback for a long time, and they
pay them this type of money. I mean, I don't
(26:37):
know if he is a top ten quarterback in the NFL.
He certainly did not play like one last year. And
what's so interesting to me about that is he's under
contract for two more years. I mean, he's got he
was he had the last year of his rookie contract
coming up, and then they had the fifth year option.
But these teams, I think, once they decide that this
(26:58):
is what we're gonna do, this is who we're going
going with, they want to get It's almost like they
want to pay him as soon as possible before it
goes up even more. Because now the price just one
up for Tua, the price just one up for Jordan Love. Heck,
even guys like Dak and Matthew Stafford who are looking
for new deals are probably thrilled. Paulie.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Like you said, it seems like there's two directions for
a quarterback, especially a first round quarterback. You get to
year three, you either pick up the fifth year option,
and that's your franchise direction and you have to pay
the going rate, which is the next highest of all time.
Or you like Mitch Trubisky with the Bears or Jamis
Winston with the Bucks. They say we're moving on, and
we did three years. We gave it a try, and
we're moving on and going into the production. There's no
(27:38):
middle ground for that second contract.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The only middle ground guy I can think of right
now is like Baker Mayfield. He signed three years, one
hundred mil. He's getting thirty three million year. Everybody else
it's like your fifty million plus or you're less than
ten million. I would love to know how many quarterbacks?
Can we look that up? Do we have a stat person?
How many quarterbacks are making between ten and forty million
(28:03):
dollars a year? It cannot be very many. I want
to get some of the callers involved as well. Eight
seven seven three DP show and I'll check out your
social post to me as well. At Ross Tucker, NFL, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
PAULI Ross hear the football Analyst, Trevor Lawrence. His first year,
everyone gives a hall pass because an urban Meyer his
second year, four thousand yards, twenty five touchdowns, eight picks.
He's hit his stride. Last year he drops to twenty
one touchdowns and goes up to fourteen picks. Does he
feel like a guy worth two hundred fifty million dollars?
Speaker 9 (28:33):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
However, I think you could argue that a true franchise
quarterback in the NFL is still undervalued because you either
have one or you don't, and if you don't have one,
you have absolutely no chance. Trevor Lawrence proved last year.
(28:54):
I guess two years ago now he could come from
behind and win a playoff game against a fellow young
star quarterback like Justin Herbert. And if people forget, he
and the Jags actually played pretty well in the divisional
round out in Kansas City. So Trevor Lawrence proved to
the Jags that year that he's capable of winning playoff
(29:17):
games and being in the mix with guys like Mahomes,
even if he's not as good. Let's go to Andrew
who's in Washington? Take our first call to day eight,
seven to seven to three DP show Andrew what's up man?
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Hey Ross Tucker, Welcome to the Dan Paffick Show. Always
great to see in the big chair. Good morning, Dan
Ed's Happy Meet Friday to you all. You hit it
on the head. I'm not sure if Trevor Lawrence he
is not a top ten quarterback. A few weeks back,
maybe ten to fourteen days, Dan had Mike Tannenbaum on,
and Mike Tannonbaum said it was an easy choice Jordan
(29:52):
Love all day. Now, he might have put Jordan Love
a little too high on his list, but again, you know,
he just set the bar even higher. Trevor Lawrence ranks
top ten in besides yearly salary now and guaranteed money
is his like sixty one giveaways in three seasons. That
runs him like twelfth all time. So yeah, he's up there.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And you know, and Andrew, you know what's funny, by
the way, and I appreciate the call. You know what's funny.
I had Greg Cosel the NFL Films legend. I have
him on the Ross Soccer Football podcast every week, and
I think it was last week or maybe the week before.
His exact quote, guys was we need to start to
lower the expectations for Trevor Lawrence. And his point was
(30:37):
because he was the number one recruit in high school
for multiple years, because he won the National Championship at
Clemson as a true freshman, and because he was number
one overall pick, people talked about him like he's a
generational quarterback, like a once every twenty years guy. He's
not Josh Allen, He's not Mahomes. I mean, he's a
(30:59):
good player. But I think Greg's point was that he
maybe got a little overhyped. I don't know that we are.
I mean, the Jaguars certainly aren't lowering the expectations at
this point with the contract that they just gave him.
We're not lowering the standards of the show. We're gonna
have Chris Mannix because we got to talk about the
NBA Finals, what to expect from the Mavericks tonight. Just
(31:24):
how good is this Celtics group. What's the latest with Luca?
I mean, people were just eviscerating Luca after Game three
a couple nights ago. We'll talk about it with Chris
Mannix from Sports Illustrated thirty eight minutes past the hour
here on The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (31:50):
WAP man, I love when friends or colleagues are listening.
General So's chicken is named for are So sung tongue
now usually transliterated as well. I'm not even gonna try
with that one, a formidable nineteenth century general who is
(32:12):
said to have enjoyed eating it. Via NPR via My
Ross Tucker Podcast producer Jack Connell. Thank you Jack for
listening or watching on Peacock. Speaking of food, before we
get into the NBA stuff, we got to ask Chris Mannix,
who does an absolutely terrific job covering the NBA and
(32:33):
has for a long time. You can check him out
on social media at SI. Chris mannis obviously doing it
for Sports Illustrated for a long time at this point. Chris.
Always good to talk with you, man, Always good to
see you. We're starting the show talking about food, of course,
because it's a meat Friday. We got Darren Ravello on
(32:53):
a little bit later in the show to talk about
the hot dog eating contest. Let's say you had to
be in an eating contest and your life depended on it.
You had to win, you had to be a top
five or whatever. What food would you pick? Chris, compared
to other normal people.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
I mean, the short answer is pizza, because I could
go through a large pie faster I think anybody I know.
The more granular answer is the buffalo chicken sandwich from
the Fours in Boston. The fors is a kind of
famous sports bar in the Boston area, and at one
(33:34):
point when I was living around there, I would eat
probably three or four of those a week. It's actually
called the Doug Flutie in Boston. It's named for, of course,
the great XBC quarterback, and I could probably hoover that
in about fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I actually just thought of something about these eating contests.
Would you have a couple beers ahead of time? Because
after I've had a couple of beers and I'm hungry,
I can eat like an absolute ravishing mad ma. So
it fills up your stomach a little bit. But man,
when you're hungry, you've had you've been drinking for a
couple hours, you can really eat.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Thoughts, Yeah, but I don't think that helps you in
the moment, right, Like, you get hungry after you know,
eight to ten beers and you get home, and the
idea of ordering like a whopper sounds like a good
one in the moment, though, you're just adding stuff to
your stomach, So the only thing I'd want is a
little bit of water to help wash that down.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
All right, let's get into the NBA stuff. Chris, thank
you by the way for humoring me.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
There.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I like it. Let's start with I guess the question
in my mind, which is are the Celtics just this
good or are the Mavericks kind of choking a little
bit here in the finals.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
I think it's more about the Celtics being this good.
I mean, going on a twelve and two run during
the conference playoffs, up three to nothing in this round.
You have to start with just how good they are.
They were, you know, historically good in some ways during
the regular season. Their point differential was fantastic. Their offense
(35:10):
was you know, clicking at you know, in some areas
all time great rate. They were the most prolific three
point shooting team in the NBA. They were just I
think it was a fraction of a percentage from being
the number one team in efficiency in that area as well.
They they are great. They've got great offensive players, they've
got elite wing defenders. You really have to to go
(35:32):
deep into the Celtics bench to find any real areas
of weakness and on top of all that, like they've
got the experience that comes with kind of you know,
going through the highs and lows of.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Being a contender in recent years.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
They lost in the finals two years ago, they lost
in the conference finals last year. They're kind of the
the the perfect combination of when talent and opportunity and
preparation kind of meat each other at one point.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How sustainable is this chrift? Like I don't know all
their contracts and what they've got for next year. I mean,
is this a group that's going to be able to
stay together the next few years?
Speaker 9 (36:10):
So the NBA has done a fantastic job of trying
to legislate dynasties out of the sport. Like, you know,
dynasties over the last twenty years have been fun to
talk about. Whether it's the Lakers dynasty in the early
two thousands, San Antonio had one that's spread out over
(36:30):
twelve to fourteen years. Miami was a mini dynasty, most
recently Golden State. They make for great TV ratings, but
the NBA doesn't love them because the NBA, you know,
really going back to the days of David stern as
commissioner has sought NFL style parody, and look, this year
(36:50):
is going to be the sixth year in a row
there has been a new NBA champion crowned, and that's
what the NBA loves like. They want new faces teams
in the finals every single year. All that being said,
the Celtics are as equipped as any team in recent
memory to run off two, maybe three championships.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
They're stars.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are under contract for the
long term. Jalen Brown just signed what was the richest
contract in NBA history last summer, and Jason Tatum is
about to sign what's going to be the richest contract
in NBA history this summer. Drew Holliday has an extension.
Christaps porzingis got an extension. Derek White's the one guy
(37:33):
who's only got one year left on his contract. But
if the Celtics win a championship, there's no doubt in
my mind that Wick grouse Beck and ownership in Boston
is going to extend him as well. So you've got
a bunch of guys in their twenties and early thirties. Yeah,
you gotta worry about Al Horford, who's thirty eight years
old and how long he can go. But this is
a window Russ that I think is open for two
(37:56):
or three more years.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Let's look at the other side of it, which is
Luka and the MAVs and Kyrie. What's going on here?
And do you think that the critique of Luca has
gone a little bit too far?
Speaker 9 (38:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
And look during Game three, I was on social media
tweeting that, you know, as great as Luca is on
the other end of the floor, defensively, it's oftentimes like
playing five on four, like he's just not engaged on
that end. And what the Celtics are doing, which very
few of the Western Conference contenders did, is they're attacking him.
(38:33):
Like you watch these games and they're putting Luca in
a whole lot of actions, making him defend on that
end of the floor. They're doing the same thing to
Kyrie Irving, but I think Irving's having a little more
success defensively Lucas. It's just there's just not a lot
of effort on that end of the floor. And you
can say, look, he's been banged up. He assumes a
lot of the offensive burden. But in order for Dallas
(38:56):
to be a consistent championship contender in order for them
to even win a championship over the next four or
five years, Luca has got to become more of a
two way player. He doesn't have to become a defensive stopper,
but he can't be a defensive liability, which he is
right now. Now Beyond Luca, there are other problems the
Mavericks have. Their supporting cast has been non existent. You
(39:19):
look at some of the numbers for PJ. Washington, for
Derek Jones Junior, for Daniel Gafford, for Maxi Kleeber, for
Josh Green. None of these guys have been impact players.
Derek Lively was impactful last game for the first time
really all series. So you know, there's been an argument
that Luca and Kyrie are the greatest offensive backcourt in
(39:41):
nb history. Even if you think they are, you can't
win at the highest level without your role players stepping up.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Look at Boston's role players.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
Drew Holiday has been fantastic. Derek White at sixteen points
in the last game. Sam Houser has shot lights out
in two of the three games of this series. The Celtics,
in addition to their stars showing up, are getting outstanding
performances from their role players, whereas Dallases have barely shown up.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You gotta check him out on social media. He is fantastic,
as you can tell. He is all over the NBA,
has been for a long time at SI. Chris Mannis
Chris really appreciate the time, man, Thank you so much.
You got it. Russ. Two interesting notes, by the way,
about the Celtics and Chris mannis number one. He was
a ball boy for them growing up for a long time,
(40:33):
which is always going to be a little interesting because
he's worked in the business so long now that you
disassociate with that for the most part. But it's interesting.
I grew up a huge Eagles fan. They never wanted me.
I never played for them, but now that I do
their preseason games and do other work for them, it
kind of comes back a little bit each year. Plus
(40:55):
it's hard, like all my family and friends are diehards,
and so it becomes a social thing, you know, it
becomes I want to have something to engage with with
my friends and family.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Pauli and Mannix was there in the early nineties working
equipment and he would go out and he would set
up the other team, the other team's locker room, the
other thing, the other team that was his designation. So
there's pictures of him. He's got where he's on the
court during warmups with his arm against Michael Jordan's back,
helping him work on shots, or because he called him
over and you're supposed to help out how they want.
It's weird. He's got pictures of him with like Ray
(41:28):
Allen where he's pushing against his back, or he's got
stories about doing stuff with Alan Iverson. I mean, his
stories are fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
By the way, I at one point in my life
I was a part owner of the Boston Celtics. My
dad gave me like a piece of stock, remember that
used to be publicly traded. For Christmas. One year, I
got a share of Boston Celtics stocks. So I gotta
tell you, I'm feeling really good about winning this championship tonight.
Hopefully one hour down, two to go. Stay at Patrick
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