June 17, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan resolves not to talk about New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers until August. And he discusses the repercussions of Chicago Sky F Angel Reese relentless criticism of Caitlin Clark.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend.
Belated Happy Father's Day all you fathers out there. Stat
of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the
official trading cards to The Dan Patrick Show. Spent a
lot of time first hour talking about what happened at
the US Open over the weekend. Also, two sweeps were
(00:25):
avoided as both teams favorites were humiliated. When you think
about it, Edmonton won eight to one over the Panthers,
and I just said, let's make these touchdowns. So that's
eight touchdowns time seven fifty six, fifty six to seven.
That's humiliated, humiliating, And you had the Celtics at one
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point they were down by forty eight. This is what
always amazes me with teams. Now you got to just
wipe it clean. It's like it never happened. You just
move forward. It's not like anything carries over unless it
is the we figured this out, or there's momentum there
a little bit. But you can have eight goals. You
don't go, hey, let me save one of those. Can
(01:08):
I use one of those in Game five? Or Boston
or down forty eight Dallas. Everybody's scoring. Hey, why don't
we slow down? Maybe save some of these for Game five?
Game five tonight, and the Mavericks are getting six and
a half points against the Celtics in Boston. Seaton poll
question from hour one will clean those up? And then
what are we going to go with an hour two?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Our one we got up there? The US Open will
be remembered for Bryson winning or Rory losing. Right now,
about sixty two percent of vote have Rory losing. And
then we have who's more back in it Dallas or Edmonton.
Edmonton running away with that one, Dallas not getting a
lot of love.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, but what if Dallas wins tonight? They would be
more back in it?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
They would Yeah, yeah, that would make it at least interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Still feels like there's a foregune conclusion, certainly with the
Celtics beating Dallas Edmonton. Uh, maybe your guess is as
good as mine, I would think Florida, you know, all
of a sudden, they'll be like, all right, we had
our bad game. And this happens a lot of times
when you're watching in a series, a seven game series
(02:16):
where you're going to have a bad game, a bad night.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's not our night. That's what it is. That's what
it was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And at least we get a little bit more sports
coming up this week. Yes, Marv, you.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Know the line changes for Florida really wasn't going. Thank
you for playing. Thank you know the Ford check in there,
that power play, didn't you take advantage of? I didn't
know what a power play was until yesterday. No, I'm playing, Okay,
but when I started working at ESPN, I did not
know the NHL or hockey had three periods.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, that's that's impressive. Did you think it was halftime
At the end of the first period?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I was like, why do they keep going back to
the locker room? Yeah? The first period, I was like,
Mike Marven's three periods, the game's over.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oh what sport do we know the least about? It's
hockey for you, Marv? Yes, okay, Todd, what about you
that you know the least about?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Probably golf out of the main sports that I order, racing.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
For sure, Okay, seton. What about you know the least
about in terms of just how it works? Yeah? Or
the players? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know a lot of rules
in any form of car racing. Okay, hockey though I could.
I could definitely. If you ask me to explain certain
things about hockey right now, I'd.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Be like, I'm not really sure. And has something to
do with that line, I think, yeah, go ask your mom. Yes, Todd,
I'm actually going to.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
Remove golf and say soccer, because especially when I hear
Seatan talk about it and you could be talking another
language half.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
The time, I don't get a lot of things that
happen on the pitch.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
Okay, Paul, I think I could fake it with hockey
without actually knowing all the rules. Like I know what
icing is when it's like a balk. I still am
not sure with my eyeball that I know what a
balk is in baseball. When I'm watching rugby and I
like to watch it on TV, I don't know what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, but that's not a main snow like cricket's not
a main sport. I've watched cricket. I still don't know
what's going on now because I'll be like yeah, and
then somebody just said, what are you doing, Like you
know that's a wicket or something like that.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Whatever it is, I.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Would say with hockey, like McDavid was on a breakaway
and someone went under his legs with his hockey stick
and kind of kind of hooked him back but didn't
hook him hard. And I was like, why is that
not a penalty? Why is that not hooking or why
isn't that something? And the guy the analyst said, well,
it wasn't hard enough. So it's hard for me as
eyeballs to know what's a penalty and what's not in hockey.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
See, yes, there are moments that like a dude will
get checked into the boards, he'll pick himself up, collect himself,
then skate all the way down the ice and smash
another guy between the legs with his stick. And the
analysts are like, well, it was more of a slash,
not as much of a spear, so it's not that
big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
If it was a spear, then it would be that's dirty,
you can't do that. But a slash, it's not that
big of a deal. Alrighty, well, welcome to the program.
Already in progress, as you can tell. The remaining up
one O on Ukraine by the way, New Euros just oh,
I'm taking England to win.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, it's coming home. Yeah, yes, what's the euros?
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I thought there was a form of money when you're transferring.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Thank you, Tom, Let's get our two going. Yeah yeah uh.
Speaking Speaking of which, Charles Barkley.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Had an announcement. I go, wait a.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Minute here, NBA TV guest analyst, and all of a sudden,
Charles Barkley says the following.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
I have made the decision myself. No matter what happens,
next year is going to be my last year on television,
and I just want to say thank you to my
NBA family. You guys been great to me. My heart
is full with joy and gratitude. But I'm pass the
baton at the end of next year. I hope the
(06:04):
NBA stays with TNT, But for me personally, I wanted
you guys to hear from me because I'm not doing
any more interviews.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Don't y'all be calling me.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Nobody calling me.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
I'm not talking about this again, but I wanted to
tell my NBA and NBA TV and TNT family that
I'm not going to another network. But next year I'm
gonna just retire after twenty five years, and I just
want to say thank you, and I wanted y'all to
hear from me first.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Okay, how many believe that Charles will retire after next season? Fritzi,
I do not.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I think if someone throws crazy money at him, he
would continue to do his things.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Ain't Seaton, What do you think I'm going to say
a brief hiatus.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Brief hiatus?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, ask Reggie Miller, who joins this next hour. Yes, Marv,
it's going to be a Jordan retirement. Ooh year and
a half with the Wizards. Oh come back with the Bulls.
Oh So's retirement. Oh okay, okay, Paulie.
Speaker 8 (07:04):
I believe Charles meant what he said the other night.
In his head. I think he means it. I think
he's very frustrated. When he was on our show a
couple of weeks so, he seem very sad, angry and
frustrated about the situation. He does have a family where
the producers and stuff. I think Charles is also maybe
doing a little negotiating on behalf of TNT to keep
them in the mix for the NBA simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But I don't know if he's saying that it's going
to be no matter what happens, He's still retiring. So
it's not Hey, TNT is going to stay in the
mix with the NBA. It sounds like Charles is saying,
no matter what happens, I hope it stays there, but
I'm going to retire. Charles says a lot of things,
(07:50):
and there are times when I go, I don't believe that,
you believe that.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
This one felt like, you know, maybe that that is true. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I was a little disappointed that he's kind of taken
a you know, maybe a cue from me about announcing
your retirement, and then all of a sudden, He's going
to do one more year, and then I'm doing three
more years. So I don't know, just felt like this
was a message sent directly to me. Now, oh yeah,
he You're gonna milk this retirement here, So am I
(08:21):
I'm going to own it for the next year.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yes if I Madam Silver, and I'm not overstating this,
I don't let that happen. Adam Silver's job is the
good of the league, and there's no one who's better
for the good of league and including players more important
to the good of league than Charles Barkley to be
part of whatever broadcasts are going on. I don't care
what Nework it is. I'll watch Charles if he's on,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, but he said he doesn't want to work at ESPN. Yeah,
I think you could.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Stay keep everybody together, as we've talked.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
About, and then you just sort of outsourced the show
and you know, whoever one of these partners, and you say,
we want to keep everybody, keep everybody in Atlanta, and
we want you to buy our show. I don't know
if those kind of negotiations are going on. I think
you'd be crazy if you didn't at least have a
fact finding mission to see can we keep this show
(09:11):
intact and the value of that if you don't have
Charles in there. Draymond Green wants to be a TV personality,
but I don't. Draymond Green's not appointment programming for me
tune in to watch. I mean, I'm tuned in just
to see the pregame show or the halftime show, our
post game show. That says a lot about the entertainment
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value factor here, But Draymond Green is not I mean
he might sit in that chair, he's not replacing Charles Barkley,
and I love Jamal Crawford. Nobody's going to replace Charles Barkley,
no one. He is John Madden to his sport. There
will be somebody who will sit in there. There'll be
somebody who's entertaining, but nobody is going to be Charles.
He's the most valuable person in TV right now. I
(10:00):
just don't know if you walk away from that and
he's got you know, he's got commercial endorsements, does that
stay if he's gone. But he seemed frustrated, angry, and
I think I even asked it sounds like you're angry,
and he said I am. But he was angry because
he was trying to protect everybody at TNT and he's
(10:22):
not able to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yes, it's like sometimes the business the TV gets in
the way of great TV.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, he had the politics and maybe
he just he's done. I mean he's twenty five years.
That's a long time, long time and he survived too. Like,
there's nobody who has the longitude or latitude to have
opinions the way Charles does. Stephen A is close to that,
(10:49):
Pat McAfee is close to that. But they've all taken
cues from Charles. I mean, Charles gave us hot takes
before we knew what hot takes were. When you think
about it, he had hot it just nobody was going
to label that a hot take. He would say, I
don't do hot takes. It's just that's his opinion. Nowadays
(11:10):
those are hot takes.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah. Pull now.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
While I hope he doesn't retire. If he is going
to retire, Charles has no filter. Now, imagine next year,
with no job to worry about. In one more year
on the air, what he's like on air if he
has think you're.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
All change, PAULI, but I don't.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
It might be even more wide open.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't even think it matters to him. I really don't.
I don't think he's tried to be anything. I don't
think when he goes on the air he's trying to
be anything a lot of times, and a lot of people,
not a lot of people, but people I've worked with
have a personality. Once they go on TV, that's not
who they are. They have to almost put on a
uniform or a mask to go. That's who I am
(11:47):
when I get on TV. But they're not that way
when they're not Charles is that's Charles. You're around Charles,
that's the way he is that's the beauty of Charles.
When you're with him. He's Charles Berkley. He doesn't change.
So I hope it's not true, but it sounds like
it is now a lot of times you say things
(12:10):
in the moment, you're frustrated, you're angry, and.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Then you walk it back a little bit. Yeah, Pauline, all.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Right, here's the bigger question for us as a show.
Charles said at the second half of the clip, nobody
call me. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
I'm not doing any interviews. Can we call Charles?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I said to Fritzie, Hey, just maybe text Charles, just say, hey,
you're probably talking about every other show but ours. Dan
thinks you were talking about every other show but ours?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Is that right? Charles like, then it's okay. Did you
get a hold of Charles.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I have not heard back, but we did a gentle, professional,
finessed way of a post.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Okay, are interest in having a moneties up for it?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
What was the tone?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
How do you ask somebody who said, don't ask me
to come on any show.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Oh, I think I said, congratulations on a great career,
playing into the fact that believing what he said, I
said although you made it clear you don't want to
talk to anybody, and then I just continued with my pitch.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Ok okay, Yeah, you could have thrown in there that, hey,
Dan doesn't believe you're talking about his show.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're talking about all the other shows, which I think
is fair. Yeah. I do feel like it's a fair assumption.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Gota admit he's been on this show more than any
other show in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yes, Marv, do.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You make an offer to Chuck or any other show
a weekly appearance after next season? Like, name your price?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Well, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
No, No, I'm s.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Marve.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You're not getting paid. Yeah, hey, but we got Barkley. Yeah,
I don't have McAfee money here that I can go. Hey,
you want a million dollars here, you go Aaron Rodgers
or Nick Saban, Which it's great business strategy. I know
everybody's like, well, that not being journalistically, but I said,
Pat mcabee's not trying to be a journalist.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
He's an entertainer. Now he's gonna pay you to come
on his show.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Good for him. Got the coin, got a lot of
mileage out of it. All right, let me take a break.
I got phone calls to get to best and Worst
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
More phone calls coming up, Best and Worst of the weekend.
We will give you hours coming up. A couple of
phone calls here. We'll talk about the WNBA game yesterday
with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and had an incident there.
I don't know if people watched the game or they
just saw the incident. And everybody has an opinion about this,
(15:30):
so we will give you our thoughts on that coming up.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Tim and Jersey. Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (15:38):
Hi Dan? Hi Dan. It's a question. Last week's Seaton
was off for an important event to him. I assume
that he brought it up with you to make sure
that he could take the day off. I'm curious if
it was an excused absence.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It was, it was an excused absence, Thank you, Tim.
I'm Robert Salah, and I said that Seton could have
the day off. I don't know if we have unexcused
days off here, but for the most part, everybody tells
me that they're going to take a day off and
I approve it.
Speaker 12 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
See, this isn't exactly the kind of job where you
just like hit your PTO kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm just, you know what, I'm gonna call him sick today.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
We don't typically do that morning of like a you
know what, I burn a couple of personal.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Days because we don't have that many people here. We
have twelve people, you know total on the show. We
can't afford to lose somebody, and if we do, then
I have to have somebody who's able to fill in
as a camera operator or a director. Danetz can't do that.
The chair is just empty. But Seaton asked for the
day off, or at least a portion of the day.
(16:48):
His sun was graduating from eighth grade, and I said yes.
So it's not an Aaron Rodgers situation where Aaron was
doing something and it was an unexcused absence. And I
can't get caught up in Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And I know I'm missing out on clicks and I
get all that. I got a how about I wait
till August? Yeah, I just I can't do that to
this audience where oh my god, Aaron Rodgers, Oh my god,
Aaron Rodgers. I'm bored by it. I just want to
(17:26):
see him play the other stuff. I couldn't care less. Okay,
he's there, he's not there. Where is he?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well? What was he doing?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I don't care. I'm assuming he's going to be there
to start this season. He is under contract, he's getting
paid fifty million dollars. I'm assuming that he's going to
be good there. Yeah, Paul, back.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
To Seaton going to his son's eighth grade graduation. That's
a pretty traditional one. That's definitely one. A bunch of
years ago, my daughter had a I wasn't even first grade.
What's before first grade? Like kindergarten, kindergarten graduation or stepping
forward ceremony? How long has that been in play? Where
like there's a fifth grade one that you go to seventh, eighth,
ninth grade or fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I don't remember now. I remember eighth grade with my
kids was kind of a big deal. Now you're going
into high school, it seems like a big deal, but
not you know, graduating from kindergarten or daycare.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
They had like the things the hats in the flat
hats in kindergarten for my daughters, camps, caps and gowns.
They had little diplomas.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Fifth grade's a new one. That's not necessary.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I remember I had a kindergarten one when I was
a kid, and I don't know, I guess it was fun.
I don't really know, but fifth grade seems pretty unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, in eighth grade, that's fun. You're going into high school.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Even eighth grade is kind of unnecessary, but It's like,
it's nice you are taking a big step, like moving
from middle school to high school. You're a teenager now, like, well,
I can talk my way into that, although it is
kind of unnecessary.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Yes, Todd, would that have been a tough sell for
you back in the mothership days to miss sports center
because of the kids kindergarten graduation?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
That might have been tough. I had to walk into
the well. I worked at State there.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I worked at night, So unless the graduation was at
eleven o'clock at night, then I didn't miss anything. I mean,
there are times when I should have missed work for things,
but I didn't. It's like, Nope, I'm dedicated to my
job here, not my family. Yes, did Todd just take
a subtle shot at me for taking that day off? Well,
(19:33):
why didn't you just turn and ask him?
Speaker 6 (19:35):
No, I've missed many days for various reasons at all.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I was just wondering if you were in that situation
when you had a host sports center, if something came
up and it was something that was meaningful for you,
would you have been How would you have handled that?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I missed a sports center when my youngest daughter was born.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Yeah, Paul, you know at our daughter's fifth grade graduation.
We went to it. I'm with my wife and yeah,
we had the day off, and she goes, well, we
have to go get fly I'm like, excuse me, she
was we had to go get a bouquet of flowers.
All the kids are getting flowers from their parents, Like,
all the girls are getting flowers. And you walked in
this auditorium, you would have thought there was a Miss
America pageant. Fifth grade graduation somewhat expected for a child.
(20:12):
That's I know, it's a nice day and every like that.
But if your kid's not graduate from fifth grade, then
the we have you have issues.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I think, yeah, someone expected you know, or if you
didn't think your kid was going to graduate from fifth
grade and you have a celebration that I'm okay with
that if your shocked bite you're saying yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
like I'll be Damn, let's have a party. You graduated?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Did really? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I remember my youngest brother when he graduated from high school.
We were like, damn, Dave graduated from high school. Let's
have a party.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
We had.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
We had the under I.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Had a friend in eighth grade who didn't show up
to graduation and it's like, oh, you know, the actual
graduation ceremony at your eighth grade to go to high school.
And it's like, oh, are you sick you Nope, what happen?
He didn't graduate?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Oh held back ooh ooh yeah, see it is.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It's funny to see kids like, you know, they're being
sort of tough before the graduation.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Finally one more day I could get out of this school.
And by the end of the day they're like, ye,
but you've always been really cool. Best and Worst of
the weekend todd.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Best of the weekend Luca twenty two points in the paints,
more than all the Celtics combined in the three quarters
that he played. Friday Night, NBA Finals Game four, Luca
forced four turnovers, held the Celtics to two of nine
shooting when he was the primary defender. So shout out
to Luca for best.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Of the weekend. Worst.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Also Game four, Friday night in Dallas, Jason Tatum's minus
thirty three on.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
The floor gave him a dubious record.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Teytum became the first play with two NBA Finals games
of minus thirty or worse. The other happened in Game
two against Golden State back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Seat O'Connor, best and worst. My best of the weekend.
Stolen bases are back. Red Sox stole nine against the
Yankees last night. That was awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I love that people are stealing bases again. My even
more bester though, Brooks Koepka all growed up too, congratulating
Bryson Deshamba. Welcome to the two timers club, champ. Look
at these guys, how by guns.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well they are on the lib tour together, all right,
fell Maybe money does then they're all making a ton
of money over there.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Not bad, alrighty, Marvin, what about you?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Best of the weekend? Tim Hardaway Junior hitting five threes
all beat garbage time. Those were his first points of
the playoffs, which is wild to say. I was not
expecting that. Other best of the weekend Gunner Henderson. He's
second in the majors with twenty two home runs, only
behind Aaron Judge. Let's go Orioles forty seven to twenty four.
(22:48):
I mean, look, I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
All right, Paul beston Worst of the week.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Great baseball name, Gunner Henderson, Now that's a great basketball name.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Or quarterback name Gunner.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Yeah yeah, Best of Weekend Bryson d Chambeau, whether he
won or not, how he handled himself all weekend. I
don't know if it's like some media plan or his
team or about helping the live tour, but either way,
the way he participated with the fans all weekend, I
think it's going to rub off and people are going
to see how he did that, and more golfers will
do that. It's like Phil Mickelson used to do that
ten years ago and worked for him for years. Worst
(23:20):
of the Weekend. If the Charles Barkley thing is true
and he does retire, I'm be legitimately bummed out. Great
television doesn't come that often, and unpredictable television even less so.
And Charles was both.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
He's going to need an outlet, and we'll give him
that outlet. So we'll bother him. We'll try to be respectful.
He said, I don't want to do any interviews, but
I'm going to retire after next season. Well, I told
Fritzy just kind of, you know, tread lightly and then
just say still like tab you on the show. You know,
when you get comfortable with your decision and we could
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talk about it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yes, Mart, is this.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Like when George Cloney left Er and they were like,
well that's it for Er. Like when a big star
leaves the TV show, does the TV show just keep
going on without him? Oh?
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Good player? Come.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I didn't think George Clooney on E or was going
to come up today. It's pretty good, though, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
It's real good.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He was not.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
About four years before he left. People thought he was
risking it because there was a successful show. I never
watched it, so, oh, it's a good show first five years.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, and Julianna Marguley's later left years later. Her last
scene was going to meet George Clooney. His character came
back for one day and it was a bomb show.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Okay, all right, yeah yeah, but I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I was working, so I didn't get to
see a lot of those shows that were in prime time.
Speaker 12 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Paul David Crusoe left NYPD Blue after season one like
it was a kind of breakout show, already too big
for this bliss. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, it's like Chevy Chase left Saturday Night Live after
what a year, year and a half something like that,
And I was like, oh my god, Chevy Chase is
going to go make movies, and it's like, okay, I
was never a Chevy Chase fan.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Shelley Long when she left Cheers, Paulie brought.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Up like three I think she did like three seasons. Yeah,
Christy ally easy transition though, Yeah, bridge the gap really
nicely for me.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah. Any who, Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (25:21):
Morning morning, Dan and the guys man quick question man
before I get to my worst and worser And with
Fritzie out of a couple of Fridays ago and marving
out a Friday ago and seating last week, I'm just
curious that Paulie's uh spinning the wheel of relegation this week.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Oh for a day off?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
M Yeah, well you know they Marvin was getting surgery
Seaton out of graduation. I took a mental health day
on Friday. I was like, you know what, I think
I need to take a day off. Yeah, it's like,
you know what, I'm gonna take a day off here, Todd.
You don't need a day of if you've had a
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couple of days off.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
I had a day off about a month ago for
my son's college graduation.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, yeah, so you know when it comes up. Doesn't
happen often. Paul, He's like cal Ripkin Jr. He's an
iron man. It just for the most part, he's going
to be here no matter what. I don't know if
you've ever been sick on this show, sick out, I
don't know if you've been sick, I don't remember.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
None of us really stick out. I mean, none of
us really. Todd Todd's at worst Todd would stick out.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That's why this class wall is in between us, because
the guy doesn't stick out.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, Todd kind of surgery's out. Oh yeah, he's surgery's out.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
It's usually something somewhat significant. If I'm not going to
be in the chair.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, huh, happened.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Paul just took an hour off. He does his hours
at a time. I got a flight to catch r Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Well that's right. Yeah, yeah, left to go to the airport.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
But now that someone decided after a dental procedure they
felt compelled to come back that same day, then the
bars changed immntally for all of us.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yes, yes, Marvin, I might have wrapped up most valuable
dan in with that move right there.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
The meds were on the way, and I was like,
you know what, let me just come back stop by.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
No, No, I thought, I'm kind of I'm probably going to
try to get a surgery in the back room at
some point and leave for three or four segments and
voluntary surgery.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Okay, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That youthful enthusiasm of Marvin's was cute. Yeah, but call
me in ten years and see if you're still hustling
back to get in after your mouth surgery.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, I mean the show wasn't on. I'm unemployed in
ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, in three years and four years,
you're going to be unemployed.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Year two. I would have done the same thing year eighteen.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm probably taken in my day.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Paulie brought up something on the twelve to fifteen podcast,
by the way, on the gambling podcast Watching the US Open,
having listened there, you know, hosted the podcast there with
bad Larry Shane Irving Dylan, the graphics guy. Dylan had
the US Open going into a playoff. He had that bet,
he had Scotty Scheffler missing the cut and he had
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that and then all of a sudden, the cut line
moved and Scheffler made made the cut. They actually sometimes
know what they're doing, not often, but they're really entertaining
either way. But on the twelve to fifteen podcast, Paulie
brought up that he has actually worked with me longer
than Fritzie has by a week. But Todd always mentions
(28:32):
how long he's worked with me, and Paulie said, I
started working with Dan a week before Fritzie did, but.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Then I had a hiatus. I left for two and
a half years in the two thousand and four to
five sixth region, but I started one or two weeks now.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Now it was your minor league baseball stretch, Jordan this. Yes, you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Had to leave to then come back, Hey go yeah, yes,
Todd would still be well.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
No, Paul started, Paul started earlier, but Todd has worked
with you longest.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Todd had a lapse when we left ESPN.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, did the new show. Yeah, he wouldn't come. I
don't know that. It was two and a half years there.
It felt like that lapse. Is a lapse, Yeah, is
a lapse. Yes, I think Todd's still technically correct. He's
done more shows with me.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
He hasn't been with me longer right, because Paulie's been
there a week longer.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
And started a week longer.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Tod's been here more days, he had cumulative more day
because there are days when he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Really if you're starting these days like blocks, Todd's he's
the highest of all.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's a game of Djenga, and if I pull one out,
then it all comes coming down.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
And that in three bucks will get me on the
Q train.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And meanwhile, I'm the junior member and I've worked with
you for twenty years, almost eighteen nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, and Marvin's worked with me five years?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Has it been that long?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Sce?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, I'll hear like two and some change. Yeah, but
you worked in the back I did. Yeah, well you
you laid cable in here, didn't you?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I did?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
And then you answered phones and did some things like that.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
In the words to see and O'Connor, what a world?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
What a world? What a world?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
You're like, Hey, let's just put Marvin out there. He
knows how to run the board.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well, once again, when McLevin left and I go, I
don't know who we're going to get, and then all
of a sudden seat goes what about Marvin?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I go, what about Marvin.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, we like him, he knows the show, got good
sports knowledge and gives us a younger voice there, and
people can't hate him as much as they did mclove
and so yeah, that sounds like a good good choice
there turned out there's something about this seat though, really,
Oh yeah you think that? Oh so you think that
(30:50):
people now dislike you as much as they did mc club.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, I don't know if it's as much as mclovin,
but the uptick is noticeable, the sizeable, sizeable.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Well, I do ask you to speak more.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I'm down, glad, I'm dealing with it now all these
years in as opposed to if this.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Is starve things about me, I couldn't care less. Yes, Todd,
but the scene get enough credit.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
That might have been one of the greatest ideas in
the history of this show when he said, how about Marvin,
if you think about it, you made a list of
all of our conteu abutions I know, including myself. That
was a very wise, big deal that instantly fixed the
whatever problem or whatever you want to call the situation
of one of the dan Nets leaving well.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Why don't you just say something to see it in
your Facebook or something. I want to put it on face.
Just put seat, man, you really appreciate it. I will
have a private movea seat later, but for now, I
think the world should know. We're going to take a
break and give you our thoughts on the Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark moment yesterday that everybody is talking about.
(31:54):
Your phone calls is well, and Reggie Miller would join
us in a half hour back after this.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Be sure to catch the I Have edition of The
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Speaker 2 (32:07):
Wapp Well, it happened again. Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark
had another moment here. Now everybody has an opinion on it.
I don't know if people watch the game, but Caitlin
Clark National TV, CBS standalone noon Eastern on Sunday, you
got the sports world they're watching, or at least the
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opportunity to see it. A couple of weeks ago was
on ABC, so you got a national audience there, and
then all of a sudden, everybody has an opinion. So
Caitlin Clark is driving to the hoop and Angel Reese
trying to block the shot ends up hitting Caitlyn Clark
in the head or going across her face. Now, Angel
(32:50):
Reese's teammate blocked the shot, and everybody thought, well, here
we go again. Now Angel rees doesn't like Caitlin Clark.
You have to factor that in. I think or people
have factored that in. I should say that is she
doing this? Would she have done this to somebody else?
I don't know that. Do I think it's a basketball move?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I do?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I mean it was poor defense on her part to
let Caitlyn Clark beat her, and she had a bad angle,
went try to block it and was not even close
to blocking it, and then you know, her arm forearm
came down and hit Caitlin Clark, and everybody kind of said,
you know, Caitlin Clark has taken the high road, and
she said, it is what it is. I mean, it's
a hard foul. Should it have been upgraded to a flagrant?
(33:35):
I understand. Now you can't factor in that. Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese don't have a good relationship, and Angel
Reese has mocked Caitlyn Clark, has roughed up Caitlin Clark.
A couple of times, But that shouldn't factor in if
it's a flagrant one or not. Can you call it yes,
did they upgrade it, yes, But this is what people
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are going to take. They're going to take just that
play there. Caitlyn Clark played well one. You know, they're
doing okay. That's you know, she's had two of her
last three games have been pretty good. And I said
that that she needed to have a little bit of
time off, some rest, and you would see playing her,
they would be playing their best basketball at the end
of the year. And that's what's going to happen with
Caitlyn Clark. And they're going to play against Chicago in
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two weeks.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You have a rivalry here. Angel Reese wants to be
Draymond Green. She's more Dylan Brooks, like she's trying to
be an instigator. She goes out of her way to
criticize Caitlin Clark. So if you factor all of this in,
you know, that's when people have opinions that aren't basketball related.
(34:41):
I'm watching it. I think that Angel Reese has been
very good this year. Angel Reese stays in the news.
If Angel Reese was going into the WNBA and Caitlin Clark.
No one would care. She'd be like, oh, okay, that
woman's really good on the offensive boards. I mean that's
really what she is. She's really really good offensive reed better.
(35:03):
She's a double double every game and doing it in
her rookie season. But it's there comments that preferential treatment
for Caitlin. Then that's when everybody starts to factor in.
You know, is it white versus black jealousy? That WNBA
just doesn't like Caitlin Clark. They're all envious of her
everything that she gets. I understand there's all these storylines here.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I try to keep it to what I see on
the floor.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You know, the basketball part of this, Kennedy Carter hip
checking her, I would have I would have ejected her
from the game.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It's not a basketball play. Is it physical? Yes? Does
Caitlin flop? Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Are they tired of seeing that? Where you draw these
fouls in college, you're not going to get those in
the w NBA, all of them. Then you had the
Olympic snub she wasn't snubbed. Now, I still think she'll
end up on the team. I don't think it's the
best thing for her because she won't play. So when
people say, oh, you missed an opportunity to she'd be
growing the game, she wouldn't be because she wouldn't be playing.
(36:09):
If you're the twelfth person on the roster, how much
you're gonna play unless it's in blowouts? And now you're
going to put her in. I just don't know if
she's going to be welcomed on that team. I think
they want her to earn it. And if you look
at some of these players, I mean it took Kelsey
Plumb what four years.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
She wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
She was the all time leading scorer in college, and
then she came out she averaged like eight points. Sabrina
I and askue you, No, you had to get acclimated
to the league.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
And I think that's what the players want.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You have to kind of earn your way and do
I think she's one of the twelve best players.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
She's not.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And I said that, and I've said it before and
I'll continue to say it.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
It doesn't mean that she won't be. She's just not
right now.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
But everybody had an opinion on Angel Reese, and Angel
Reese is stirring this up. So while she doesn't, Angel
Reese always comes off as the victim and she's leaning
into being, you know, the bad guy here.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
She is a post game for Inside. I mean, I
think we were playing really hard.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I think we went out really strong a lot of times,
and we didn't get a lot of calls. And going
back and looking at the film, I've seen a lot
of calls that weren't made. I guess some people got
a special.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Whistle's special whistle. She's referring to Caitlin Clark. Look, this
is business, she's creating business. If you watch her play,
there's nothing exciting about her game. There's nothing that stands out.
She's just a really good, solid player. But there's no signature.
There's nothing about her game where you go, oh my,
gon't you see that? She just plays hard and I
(37:48):
commend her for that. But Caitlin got all of this exposure.
She's getting endorsements because she's unique. It's like Steph Curry's unique,
Tiger Wood's unique. But everybody gets it just because Hey,
I'd put in ten years in the w NBA or
the PGA Tour or the NBA. It doesn't work that way.
It's supply and demand. Do they want to buy your shoes?
(38:11):
Or do they not? Do they want to play your basketball?
Do they want to play with the Wilson I mean,
that's what this is about. It's not I'm better than her.
Maybe you are, but that doesn't mean you get an endorsement.
Hey you're better than her. Does that mean somebody's going
to buy your shoes? And the answer is no.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yes, if you're the WNBA, are you happy with this
press because this is better than no press at all?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yes, it's not always pretty social media. It's ugly, but
people are kind of using Caitlin Clark for their agenda
and that's the unfortunate part of it. And she's damned
if she does damned if she does it. You know,
you have people, people in the media criticizing her. You know,
(38:58):
why don't you know, stand up, take us stand When
Tiger and Michael Jordan ever took a stand made Michael
famously said Republicans by tennis shoes as well, Tiger wasn't involved,
you know, people wanting to be involved politically. Maybe Caitlyn
Clark just wants to play basketball. Ye know, she doesn't
want to be a lightning rod. She wants her game
(39:19):
to speak for herself and for the most part, she's
taken the high road with this. Angel Reese needs Caitlyn Clark.
Caitlin Clark does not need Angel Reese. We notice Angel
rees win when she plays against Kaitlyn Clark no other time.
I mean you might accidentally go oh oh, so that's
the woman.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
So maybe Caitlin gets some joy out of this. By
the end of the season, they're not a really good team,
not even a good team, but they're playing better and
she's playing better. Next year is when I want to
see how she plays and does she play differently.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
Yeah, Paully, I was watching the game of my daughters,
and as soon as the play happens, it was not
the biggest play in the world world when Reese hit
her in the head on the try to block. But
I knew it when I saw it, Like, oh man,
the people like you said, who are I call them
agenda opportunists. They see a play and they use it
and they don't watch the game and they use it
as an agenda to push whatever. And there's lots of
(40:15):
different angles of this. They're not going to get into
all the different angles, but there's lots of them, and
in every direction.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, and there's you know, race is certainly front and center.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Yeah, and people use one play from a game they
didn't watch to push something that's kind of real. But
that play was not the biggest play of the world.
It wasn't even the roughest play of the game.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's just they don't like it. You know, Angel Armies
doesn't like Kitlyn Clark. Go back to when she won
a national title. She didn't celebrate with her teammates. She
mocked Caitlyn Clark. So there's jealousy there. I certainly see
that with her. I don't know about the league, but
I do think that she's benefited. The WNBA has benefited
(40:54):
from Kitlin Clark and the publicity. She's the one that
has to answer these questions though.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
After games
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Final hour in the way Reggie Aloisius Miller Junior the
Third will stop by his thoughts on Charles Barkley announcing
his retirement and this Dallas win tonight and do the
Lakers have a coach by maybe tomorrow
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend.
Belated Happy Father's Day all you fathers out there. Stat
of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the
official trading cards to The Dan Patrick Show. Spent a
lot of time first hour talking about what happened at
the US Open over the weekend. Also, two sweeps were
(00:25):
avoided as both teams favorites were humiliated. When you think
about it, Edmonton won eight to one over the Panthers,
and I just said, let's make these touchdowns. So that's
eight touchdowns time seven fifty six, fifty six to seven.
That's humiliated, humiliating, And you had the Celtics at one
(00:46):
point they were down by forty eight. This is what
always amazes me with teams. Now you got to just
wipe it clean. It's like it never happened. You just
move forward. It's not like anything carries over unless it
is the we figured this out, or there's momentum there
a little bit. But you can have eight goals. You
don't go, hey, let me save one of those. Can
(01:08):
I use one of those in Game five? Or Boston
or down forty eight Dallas. Everybody's scoring. Hey, why don't
we slow down? Maybe save some of these for Game five?
Game five tonight, and the Mavericks are getting six and
a half points against the Celtics in Boston. Seaton poll
question from hour one will clean those up? And then
what are we going to go with an hour two?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Our one we got up there? The US Open will
be remembered for Bryson winning or Rory losing. Right now,
about sixty two percent of vote have Rory losing. And
then we have who's more back in it Dallas or Edmonton.
Edmonton running away with that one, Dallas not getting a
lot of love.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, but what if Dallas wins tonight? They would be
more back in it?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
They would Yeah, yeah, that would make it at least interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Still feels like there's a foregune conclusion, certainly with the
Celtics beating Dallas Edmonton. Uh, maybe your guess is as
good as mine, I would think Florida, you know, all
of a sudden, they'll be like, all right, we had
our bad game. And this happens a lot of times
when you're watching in a series, a seven game series
(02:16):
where you're going to have a bad game, a bad night.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's not our night. That's what it is. That's what
it was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And at least we get a little bit more sports
coming up this week. Yes, Marv, you.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Know the line changes for Florida really wasn't going. Thank
you for playing. Thank you know the Ford check in there,
that power play, didn't you take advantage of? I didn't
know what a power play was until yesterday. No, I'm playing, Okay,
but when I started working at ESPN, I did not
know the NHL or hockey had three periods.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, that's that's impressive. Did you think it was halftime
At the end of the first period?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I was like, why do they keep going back to
the locker room? Yeah? The first period, I was like,
Mike Marven's three periods, the game's over.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oh what sport do we know the least about? It's
hockey for you, Marv? Yes, okay, Todd, what about you
that you know the least about?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Probably golf out of the main sports that I order, racing.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
For sure, Okay, seton. What about you know the least
about in terms of just how it works? Yeah? Or
the players? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know a lot of rules
in any form of car racing. Okay, hockey though I could.
I could definitely. If you ask me to explain certain
things about hockey right now, I'd.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Be like, I'm not really sure. And has something to
do with that line, I think, yeah, go ask your mom. Yes, Todd,
I'm actually going to.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
Remove golf and say soccer, because especially when I hear
Seatan talk about it and you could be talking another
language half.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
The time, I don't get a lot of things that
happen on the pitch.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
Okay, Paul, I think I could fake it with hockey
without actually knowing all the rules. Like I know what
icing is when it's like a balk. I still am
not sure with my eyeball that I know what a
balk is in baseball. When I'm watching rugby and I
like to watch it on TV, I don't know what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, but that's not a main snow like cricket's not
a main sport. I've watched cricket. I still don't know
what's going on now because I'll be like yeah, and
then somebody just said, what are you doing, Like you
know that's a wicket or something like that.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Whatever it is, I.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Would say with hockey, like McDavid was on a breakaway
and someone went under his legs with his hockey stick
and kind of kind of hooked him back but didn't
hook him hard. And I was like, why is that
not a penalty? Why is that not hooking or why
isn't that something? And the guy the analyst said, well,
it wasn't hard enough. So it's hard for me as
eyeballs to know what's a penalty and what's not in hockey.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
See, yes, there are moments that like a dude will
get checked into the boards, he'll pick himself up, collect himself,
then skate all the way down the ice and smash
another guy between the legs with his stick. And the
analysts are like, well, it was more of a slash,
not as much of a spear, so it's not that
big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
If it was a spear, then it would be that's dirty,
you can't do that. But a slash, it's not that
big of a deal. Alrighty, well, welcome to the program.
Already in progress, as you can tell. The remaining up
one O on Ukraine by the way, New Euros just oh,
I'm taking England to win.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, it's coming home. Yeah, yes, what's the euros?
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I thought there was a form of money when you're transferring.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Thank you, Tom, Let's get our two going. Yeah yeah uh.
Speaking Speaking of which, Charles Barkley.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Had an announcement. I go, wait a.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Minute here, NBA TV guest analyst, and all of a sudden,
Charles Barkley says the following.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
I have made the decision myself. No matter what happens,
next year is going to be my last year on television,
and I just want to say thank you to my
NBA family. You guys been great to me. My heart
is full with joy and gratitude. But I'm pass the
baton at the end of next year. I hope the
(06:04):
NBA stays with TNT, But for me personally, I wanted
you guys to hear from me because I'm not doing
any more interviews.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
Don't y'all be calling me.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Nobody calling me.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
I'm not talking about this again, but I wanted to
tell my NBA and NBA TV and TNT family that
I'm not going to another network. But next year I'm
gonna just retire after twenty five years, and I just
want to say thank you, and I wanted y'all to
hear from me first.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Okay, how many believe that Charles will retire after next season? Fritzi,
I do not.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I think if someone throws crazy money at him, he
would continue to do his things.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Ain't Seaton, What do you think I'm going to say
a brief hiatus.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Brief hiatus?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, ask Reggie Miller, who joins this next hour. Yes, Marv,
it's going to be a Jordan retirement. Ooh year and
a half with the Wizards. Oh come back with the Bulls.
Oh So's retirement. Oh okay, okay, Paulie.
Speaker 8 (07:04):
I believe Charles meant what he said the other night.
In his head. I think he means it. I think
he's very frustrated. When he was on our show a
couple of weeks so, he seem very sad, angry and
frustrated about the situation. He does have a family where
the producers and stuff. I think Charles is also maybe
doing a little negotiating on behalf of TNT to keep
them in the mix for the NBA simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But I don't know if he's saying that it's going
to be no matter what happens, He's still retiring. So
it's not Hey, TNT is going to stay in the
mix with the NBA. It sounds like Charles is saying,
no matter what happens, I hope it stays there, but
I'm going to retire. Charles says a lot of things,
(07:50):
and there are times when I go, I don't believe that,
you believe that.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
This one felt like, you know, maybe that that is true. Now.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I was a little disappointed that he's kind of taken
a you know, maybe a cue from me about announcing
your retirement, and then all of a sudden, He's going
to do one more year, and then I'm doing three
more years. So I don't know, just felt like this
was a message sent directly to me. Now, oh yeah,
he You're gonna milk this retirement here, So am I
(08:21):
I'm going to own it for the next year.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yes if I Madam Silver, and I'm not overstating this,
I don't let that happen. Adam Silver's job is the
good of the league, and there's no one who's better
for the good of league and including players more important
to the good of league than Charles Barkley to be
part of whatever broadcasts are going on. I don't care
what Nework it is. I'll watch Charles if he's on,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, but he said he doesn't want to work at ESPN. Yeah,
I think you could.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Stay keep everybody together, as we've talked.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
About, and then you just sort of outsourced the show
and you know, whoever one of these partners, and you say,
we want to keep everybody, keep everybody in Atlanta, and
we want you to buy our show. I don't know
if those kind of negotiations are going on. I think
you'd be crazy if you didn't at least have a
fact finding mission to see can we keep this show
(09:11):
intact and the value of that if you don't have
Charles in there. Draymond Green wants to be a TV personality,
but I don't. Draymond Green's not appointment programming for me
tune in to watch. I mean, I'm tuned in just
to see the pregame show or the halftime show, our
post game show. That says a lot about the entertainment
(09:36):
value factor here, But Draymond Green is not I mean
he might sit in that chair, he's not replacing Charles Barkley,
and I love Jamal Crawford. Nobody's going to replace Charles Barkley,
no one. He is John Madden to his sport. There
will be somebody who will sit in there. There'll be
somebody who's entertaining, but nobody is going to be Charles.
He's the most valuable person in TV right now. I
(10:00):
just don't know if you walk away from that and
he's got you know, he's got commercial endorsements, does that
stay if he's gone. But he seemed frustrated, angry, and
I think I even asked it sounds like you're angry,
and he said I am. But he was angry because
he was trying to protect everybody at TNT and he's
(10:22):
not able to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yes, it's like sometimes the business the TV gets in
the way of great TV.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, he had the politics and maybe
he just he's done. I mean he's twenty five years.
That's a long time, long time and he survived too. Like,
there's nobody who has the longitude or latitude to have
opinions the way Charles does. Stephen A is close to that,
(10:49):
Pat McAfee is close to that. But they've all taken
cues from Charles. I mean, Charles gave us hot takes
before we knew what hot takes were. When you think
about it, he had hot it just nobody was going
to label that a hot take. He would say, I
don't do hot takes. It's just that's his opinion. Nowadays
(11:10):
those are hot takes.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah. Pull now.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
While I hope he doesn't retire. If he is going
to retire, Charles has no filter. Now, imagine next year,
with no job to worry about. In one more year
on the air, what he's like on air if he
has think you're.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
All change, PAULI, but I don't.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
It might be even more wide open.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't even think it matters to him. I really don't.
I don't think he's tried to be anything. I don't
think when he goes on the air he's trying to
be anything a lot of times, and a lot of people,
not a lot of people, but people I've worked with
have a personality. Once they go on TV, that's not
who they are. They have to almost put on a
uniform or a mask to go. That's who I am
(11:47):
when I get on TV. But they're not that way
when they're not Charles is that's Charles. You're around Charles,
that's the way he is that's the beauty of Charles.
When you're with him. He's Charles Berkley. He doesn't change.
So I hope it's not true, but it sounds like
it is now a lot of times you say things
(12:10):
in the moment, you're frustrated, you're angry, and.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Then you walk it back a little bit. Yeah, Pauline, all.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Right, here's the bigger question for us as a show.
Charles said at the second half of the clip, nobody
call me. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
I'm not doing any interviews. Can we call Charles?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I said to Fritzie, Hey, just maybe text Charles, just say, hey,
you're probably talking about every other show but ours. Dan
thinks you were talking about every other show but ours?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Is that right? Charles like, then it's okay. Did you
get a hold of Charles.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I have not heard back, but we did a gentle, professional,
finessed way of a post.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Okay, are interest in having a moneties up for it?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
What was the tone?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
How do you ask somebody who said, don't ask me
to come on any show.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Oh, I think I said, congratulations on a great career,
playing into the fact that believing what he said, I
said although you made it clear you don't want to
talk to anybody, and then I just continued with my pitch.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Ok okay, Yeah, you could have thrown in there that, hey,
Dan doesn't believe you're talking about his show.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're talking about all the other shows, which I think
is fair. Yeah. I do feel like it's a fair assumption.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Gota admit he's been on this show more than any
other show in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yes, Marv, do.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You make an offer to Chuck or any other show
a weekly appearance after next season? Like, name your price?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Well, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
No, No, I'm s.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Marve.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You're not getting paid. Yeah, hey, but we got Barkley. Yeah,
I don't have McAfee money here that I can go. Hey,
you want a million dollars here, you go Aaron Rodgers
or Nick Saban, Which it's great business strategy. I know
everybody's like, well, that not being journalistically, but I said,
Pat mcabee's not trying to be a journalist.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
He's an entertainer. Now he's gonna pay you to come
on his show.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Good for him. Got the coin, got a lot of
mileage out of it. All right, let me take a break.
I got phone calls to get to best and Worst
of the weekend. Once you saw that you liked, you
didn't like, We're just getting started here and we'll come
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
More phone calls coming up, Best and Worst of the weekend.
We will give you hours coming up. A couple of
phone calls here. We'll talk about the WNBA game yesterday
with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and had an incident there.
I don't know if people watched the game or they
just saw the incident. And everybody has an opinion about this,
(15:30):
so we will give you our thoughts on that coming up.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Tim and Jersey. Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (15:38):
Hi Dan? Hi Dan. It's a question. Last week's Seaton
was off for an important event to him. I assume
that he brought it up with you to make sure
that he could take the day off. I'm curious if
it was an excused absence.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It was, it was an excused absence, Thank you, Tim.
I'm Robert Salah, and I said that Seton could have
the day off. I don't know if we have unexcused
days off here, but for the most part, everybody tells
me that they're going to take a day off and
I approve it.
Speaker 12 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
See, this isn't exactly the kind of job where you
just like hit your PTO kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm just, you know what, I'm gonna call him sick today.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
We don't typically do that morning of like a you
know what, I burn a couple of personal.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Days because we don't have that many people here. We
have twelve people, you know total on the show. We
can't afford to lose somebody, and if we do, then
I have to have somebody who's able to fill in
as a camera operator or a director. Danetz can't do that.
The chair is just empty. But Seaton asked for the
day off, or at least a portion of the day.
(16:48):
His sun was graduating from eighth grade, and I said yes.
So it's not an Aaron Rodgers situation where Aaron was
doing something and it was an unexcused absence. And I
can't get caught up in Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And I know I'm missing out on clicks and I
get all that. I got a how about I wait
till August? Yeah, I just I can't do that to
this audience where oh my god, Aaron Rodgers, Oh my god,
Aaron Rodgers. I'm bored by it. I just want to
(17:26):
see him play the other stuff. I couldn't care less. Okay,
he's there, he's not there. Where is he?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well? What was he doing?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I don't care. I'm assuming he's going to be there
to start this season. He is under contract, he's getting
paid fifty million dollars. I'm assuming that he's going to
be good there. Yeah, Paul, back.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
To Seaton going to his son's eighth grade graduation. That's
a pretty traditional one. That's definitely one. A bunch of
years ago, my daughter had a I wasn't even first grade.
What's before first grade? Like kindergarten, kindergarten graduation or stepping
forward ceremony? How long has that been in play? Where
like there's a fifth grade one that you go to seventh, eighth,
ninth grade or fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I don't remember now. I remember eighth grade with my
kids was kind of a big deal. Now you're going
into high school, it seems like a big deal, but
not you know, graduating from kindergarten or daycare.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
They had like the things the hats in the flat
hats in kindergarten for my daughters, camps, caps and gowns.
They had little diplomas.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Fifth grade's a new one. That's not necessary.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I remember I had a kindergarten one when I was
a kid, and I don't know, I guess it was fun.
I don't really know, but fifth grade seems pretty unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, in eighth grade, that's fun. You're going into high school.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Even eighth grade is kind of unnecessary, but It's like,
it's nice you are taking a big step, like moving
from middle school to high school. You're a teenager now, like, well,
I can talk my way into that, although it is
kind of unnecessary.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Yes, Todd, would that have been a tough sell for
you back in the mothership days to miss sports center
because of the kids kindergarten graduation?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
That might have been tough. I had to walk into
the well. I worked at State there.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I worked at night, So unless the graduation was at
eleven o'clock at night, then I didn't miss anything. I mean,
there are times when I should have missed work for things,
but I didn't. It's like, Nope, I'm dedicated to my
job here, not my family. Yes, did Todd just take
a subtle shot at me for taking that day off? Well,
(19:33):
why didn't you just turn and ask him?
Speaker 6 (19:35):
No, I've missed many days for various reasons at all.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I was just wondering if you were in that situation
when you had a host sports center, if something came
up and it was something that was meaningful for you,
would you have been How would you have handled that?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I missed a sports center when my youngest daughter was born.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Yeah, Paul, you know at our daughter's fifth grade graduation.
We went to it. I'm with my wife and yeah,
we had the day off, and she goes, well, we
have to go get fly I'm like, excuse me, she
was we had to go get a bouquet of flowers.
All the kids are getting flowers from their parents, Like,
all the girls are getting flowers. And you walked in
this auditorium, you would have thought there was a Miss
America pageant. Fifth grade graduation somewhat expected for a child.
(20:12):
That's I know, it's a nice day and every like that.
But if your kid's not graduate from fifth grade, then
the we have you have issues.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I think, yeah, someone expected you know, or if you
didn't think your kid was going to graduate from fifth
grade and you have a celebration that I'm okay with
that if your shocked bite you're saying yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
like I'll be Damn, let's have a party. You graduated?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Did really? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I remember my youngest brother when he graduated from high school.
We were like, damn, Dave graduated from high school. Let's
have a party.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
We had.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
We had the under I.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Had a friend in eighth grade who didn't show up
to graduation and it's like, oh, you know, the actual
graduation ceremony at your eighth grade to go to high school.
And it's like, oh, are you sick you Nope, what happen?
He didn't graduate?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Oh held back ooh ooh yeah, see it is.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It's funny to see kids like, you know, they're being
sort of tough before the graduation.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Can't wait.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Finally one more day I could get out of this school.
And by the end of the day they're like, ye,
but you've always been really cool. Best and Worst of
the weekend todd.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Best of the weekend Luca twenty two points in the paints,
more than all the Celtics combined in the three quarters
that he played. Friday Night, NBA Finals Game four, Luca
forced four turnovers, held the Celtics to two of nine
shooting when he was the primary defender. So shout out
to Luca for best.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Of the weekend. Worst.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Also Game four, Friday night in Dallas, Jason Tatum's minus
thirty three on.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
The floor gave him a dubious record.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Teytum became the first play with two NBA Finals games
of minus thirty or worse. The other happened in Game
two against Golden State back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Seat O'Connor, best and worst. My best of the weekend.
Stolen bases are back. Red Sox stole nine against the
Yankees last night. That was awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I love that people are stealing bases again. My even
more bester though, Brooks Koepka all growed up too, congratulating
Bryson Deshamba. Welcome to the two timers club, champ. Look
at these guys, how by guns.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well they are on the lib tour together, all right,
fell Maybe money does then they're all making a ton
of money over there.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Not bad, alrighty, Marvin, what about you?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Best of the weekend? Tim Hardaway Junior hitting five threes
all beat garbage time. Those were his first points of
the playoffs, which is wild to say. I was not
expecting that. Other best of the weekend Gunner Henderson. He's
second in the majors with twenty two home runs, only
behind Aaron Judge. Let's go Orioles forty seven to twenty four.
(22:48):
I mean, look, I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
All right, Paul beston Worst of the week.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Great baseball name, Gunner Henderson, Now that's a great basketball name.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Or quarterback name Gunner.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Yeah yeah, Best of Weekend Bryson d Chambeau, whether he
won or not, how he handled himself all weekend. I
don't know if it's like some media plan or his
team or about helping the live tour, but either way,
the way he participated with the fans all weekend, I
think it's going to rub off and people are going
to see how he did that, and more golfers will
do that. It's like Phil Mickelson used to do that
ten years ago and worked for him for years. Worst
(23:20):
of the Weekend. If the Charles Barkley thing is true
and he does retire, I'm be legitimately bummed out. Great
television doesn't come that often, and unpredictable television even less so.
And Charles was both.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
He's going to need an outlet, and we'll give him
that outlet. So we'll bother him. We'll try to be respectful.
He said, I don't want to do any interviews, but
I'm going to retire after next season. Well, I told
Fritzy just kind of, you know, tread lightly and then
just say still like tab you on the show. You know,
when you get comfortable with your decision and we could
(23:53):
talk about it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yes, Mart, is this.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Like when George Cloney left Er and they were like,
well that's it for Er. Like when a big star
leaves the TV show, does the TV show just keep
going on without him? Oh?
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Good player? Come.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I didn't think George Clooney on E or was going
to come up today. It's pretty good, though, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
It's real good.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
He was not.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
About four years before he left. People thought he was
risking it because there was a successful show. I never
watched it, so, oh, it's a good show first five years.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, and Julianna Marguley's later left years later. Her last
scene was going to meet George Clooney. His character came
back for one day and it was a bomb show.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Okay, all right, yeah yeah, but I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I was working, so I didn't get to
see a lot of those shows that were in prime time.
Speaker 12 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
Paul David Crusoe left NYPD Blue after season one like
it was a kind of breakout show, already too big
for this bliss. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, it's like Chevy Chase left Saturday Night Live after
what a year, year and a half something like that,
And I was like, oh my god, Chevy Chase is
going to go make movies, and it's like, okay, I
was never a Chevy Chase fan.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Shelley Long when she left Cheers, Paulie brought.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Up like three I think she did like three seasons. Yeah,
Christy ally easy transition though, Yeah, bridge the gap really
nicely for me.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah. Any who, Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (25:21):
Morning morning, Dan and the guys man quick question man
before I get to my worst and worser And with
Fritzie out of a couple of Fridays ago and marving
out a Friday ago and seating last week, I'm just
curious that Paulie's uh spinning the wheel of relegation this week.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Oh for a day off?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
M Yeah, well you know they Marvin was getting surgery
Seaton out of graduation. I took a mental health day
on Friday. I was like, you know what, I think
I need to take a day off. Yeah, it's like,
you know what, I'm gonna take a day off here, Todd.
You don't need a day of if you've had a
(26:01):
couple of days off.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
I had a day off about a month ago for
my son's college graduation.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, yeah, so you know when it comes up. Doesn't
happen often. Paul, He's like cal Ripkin Jr. He's an
iron man. It just for the most part, he's going
to be here no matter what. I don't know if
you've ever been sick on this show, sick out, I
don't know if you've been sick, I don't remember.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
None of us really stick out. I mean, none of
us really. Todd Todd's at worst Todd would stick out.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That's why this class wall is in between us, because
the guy doesn't stick out.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, Todd kind of surgery's out. Oh yeah, he's surgery's out.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
It's usually something somewhat significant. If I'm not going to
be in the chair.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, huh, happened.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Paul just took an hour off. He does his hours
at a time. I got a flight to catch r Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Well that's right. Yeah, yeah, left to go to the airport.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
But now that someone decided after a dental procedure they
felt compelled to come back that same day, then the
bars changed immntally for all of us.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yes, yes, Marvin, I might have wrapped up most valuable
dan in with that move right there.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
The meds were on the way, and I was like,
you know what, let me just come back stop by.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
No, No, I thought, I'm kind of I'm probably going to
try to get a surgery in the back room at
some point and leave for three or four segments and
voluntary surgery.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Okay, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That youthful enthusiasm of Marvin's was cute. Yeah, but call
me in ten years and see if you're still hustling
back to get in after your mouth surgery.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, I mean the show wasn't on. I'm unemployed in
ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, in three years and four years,
you're going to be unemployed.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Year two. I would have done the same thing year eighteen.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm probably taken in my day.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Paulie brought up something on the twelve to fifteen podcast,
by the way, on the gambling podcast Watching the US Open,
having listened there, you know, hosted the podcast there with
bad Larry Shane Irving Dylan, the graphics guy. Dylan had
the US Open going into a playoff. He had that bet,
he had Scotty Scheffler missing the cut and he had
(28:10):
that and then all of a sudden, the cut line
moved and Scheffler made made the cut. They actually sometimes
know what they're doing, not often, but they're really entertaining
either way. But on the twelve to fifteen podcast, Paulie
brought up that he has actually worked with me longer
than Fritzie has by a week. But Todd always mentions
(28:32):
how long he's worked with me, and Paulie said, I
started working with Dan a week before Fritzie did, but.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Then I had a hiatus. I left for two and
a half years in the two thousand and four to
five sixth region, but I started one or two weeks now.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Now it was your minor league baseball stretch, Jordan this. Yes, you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Had to leave to then come back, Hey go yeah, yes,
Todd would still be well.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
No, Paul started, Paul started earlier, but Todd has worked
with you longest.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Todd had a lapse when we left ESPN.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, did the new show. Yeah, he wouldn't come. I
don't know that. It was two and a half years there.
It felt like that lapse. Is a lapse, Yeah, is
a lapse. Yes, I think Todd's still technically correct. He's
done more shows with me.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
He hasn't been with me longer right, because Paulie's been
there a week longer.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
And started a week longer.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Tod's been here more days, he had cumulative more day
because there are days when he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Really if you're starting these days like blocks, Todd's he's
the highest of all.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It's a game of Djenga, and if I pull one out,
then it all comes coming down.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
And that in three bucks will get me on the
Q train.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And meanwhile, I'm the junior member and I've worked with
you for twenty years, almost eighteen nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, and Marvin's worked with me five years?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Has it been that long?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Sce?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, I'll hear like two and some change. Yeah, but
you worked in the back I did. Yeah, well you
you laid cable in here, didn't you?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I did?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
And then you answered phones and did some things like that.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
In the words to see and O'Connor, what a world?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
What a world? What a world?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
You're like, Hey, let's just put Marvin out there. He
knows how to run the board.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well, once again, when McLevin left and I go, I
don't know who we're going to get, and then all
of a sudden seat goes what about Marvin?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And I go, what about Marvin.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, we like him, he knows the show, got good
sports knowledge and gives us a younger voice there, and
people can't hate him as much as they did mclove
and so yeah, that sounds like a good good choice
there turned out there's something about this seat though, really,
Oh yeah you think that? Oh so you think that
(30:50):
people now dislike you as much as they did mc club.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, I don't know if it's as much as mclovin,
but the uptick is noticeable, the sizeable, sizeable.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Well, I do ask you to speak more.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I'm down, glad, I'm dealing with it now all these
years in as opposed to if this.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Is starve things about me, I couldn't care less. Yes, Todd,
but the scene get enough credit.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
That might have been one of the greatest ideas in
the history of this show when he said, how about Marvin,
if you think about it, you made a list of
all of our conteu abutions I know, including myself. That
was a very wise, big deal that instantly fixed the
whatever problem or whatever you want to call the situation
of one of the dan Nets leaving well.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Why don't you just say something to see it in
your Facebook or something. I want to put it on face.
Just put seat, man, you really appreciate it. I will
have a private movea seat later, but for now, I
think the world should know. We're going to take a
break and give you our thoughts on the Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark moment yesterday that everybody is talking about.
(31:54):
Your phone calls is well, and Reggie Miller would join
us in a half hour back after this.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Be sure to catch the I Have edition of The
Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Wapp Well, it happened again. Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark
had another moment here. Now everybody has an opinion on it.
I don't know if people watch the game, but Caitlin
Clark National TV, CBS standalone noon Eastern on Sunday, you
got the sports world they're watching, or at least the
(32:29):
opportunity to see it. A couple of weeks ago was
on ABC, so you got a national audience there, and
then all of a sudden, everybody has an opinion. So
Caitlin Clark is driving to the hoop and Angel Reese
trying to block the shot ends up hitting Caitlyn Clark
in the head or going across her face. Now, Angel
(32:50):
Reese's teammate blocked the shot, and everybody thought, well, here
we go again. Now Angel rees doesn't like Caitlin Clark.
You have to factor that in. I think or people
have factored that in. I should say that is she
doing this? Would she have done this to somebody else?
I don't know that. Do I think it's a basketball move?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I do?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I mean it was poor defense on her part to
let Caitlyn Clark beat her, and she had a bad angle,
went try to block it and was not even close
to blocking it, and then you know, her arm forearm
came down and hit Caitlin Clark, and everybody kind of said,
you know, Caitlin Clark has taken the high road, and
she said, it is what it is. I mean, it's
a hard foul. Should it have been upgraded to a flagrant?
(33:35):
I understand. Now you can't factor in that. Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese don't have a good relationship, and Angel
Reese has mocked Caitlyn Clark, has roughed up Caitlin Clark.
A couple of times, But that shouldn't factor in if
it's a flagrant one or not. Can you call it yes,
did they upgrade it, yes, But this is what people
(33:56):
are going to take. They're going to take just that
play there. Caitlyn Clark played well one. You know, they're
doing okay. That's you know, she's had two of her
last three games have been pretty good. And I said
that that she needed to have a little bit of
time off, some rest, and you would see playing her,
they would be playing their best basketball at the end
of the year. And that's what's going to happen with
Caitlyn Clark. And they're going to play against Chicago in
(34:19):
two weeks.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
You have a rivalry here. Angel Reese wants to be
Draymond Green. She's more Dylan Brooks, like she's trying to
be an instigator. She goes out of her way to
criticize Caitlin Clark. So if you factor all of this in,
you know, that's when people have opinions that aren't basketball related.
(34:41):
I'm watching it. I think that Angel Reese has been
very good this year. Angel Reese stays in the news.
If Angel Reese was going into the WNBA and Caitlin Clark.
No one would care. She'd be like, oh, okay, that
woman's really good on the offensive boards. I mean that's
really what she is. She's really really good offensive reed better.
(35:03):
She's a double double every game and doing it in
her rookie season. But it's there comments that preferential treatment
for Caitlin. Then that's when everybody starts to factor in.
You know, is it white versus black jealousy? That WNBA
just doesn't like Caitlin Clark. They're all envious of her
everything that she gets. I understand there's all these storylines here.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I try to keep it to what I see on
the floor.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You know, the basketball part of this, Kennedy Carter hip
checking her, I would have I would have ejected her
from the game.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It's not a basketball play. Is it physical? Yes? Does
Caitlin flop? Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Are they tired of seeing that? Where you draw these
fouls in college, you're not going to get those in
the w NBA, all of them. Then you had the
Olympic snub she wasn't snubbed. Now, I still think she'll
end up on the team. I don't think it's the
best thing for her because she won't play. So when
people say, oh, you missed an opportunity to she'd be
growing the game, she wouldn't be because she wouldn't be playing.
(36:09):
If you're the twelfth person on the roster, how much
you're gonna play unless it's in blowouts? And now you're
going to put her in. I just don't know if
she's going to be welcomed on that team. I think
they want her to earn it. And if you look
at some of these players, I mean it took Kelsey
Plumb what four years.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
She wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
She was the all time leading scorer in college, and
then she came out she averaged like eight points. Sabrina
I and askue you, No, you had to get acclimated
to the league.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
And I think that's what the players want.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You have to kind of earn your way and do
I think she's one of the twelve best players.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
She's not.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And I said that, and I've said it before and
I'll continue to say it.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
It doesn't mean that she won't be. She's just not
right now.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
But everybody had an opinion on Angel Reese, and Angel
Reese is stirring this up. So while she doesn't, Angel
Reese always comes off as the victim and she's leaning
into being, you know, the bad guy here.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
She is a post game for Inside. I mean, I
think we were playing really hard.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I think we went out really strong a lot of times,
and we didn't get a lot of calls. And going
back and looking at the film, I've seen a lot
of calls that weren't made. I guess some people got
a special.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Whistle's special whistle. She's referring to Caitlin Clark. Look, this
is business, she's creating business. If you watch her play,
there's nothing exciting about her game. There's nothing that stands out.
She's just a really good, solid player. But there's no signature.
There's nothing about her game where you go, oh my,
gon't you see that? She just plays hard and I
(37:48):
commend her for that. But Caitlin got all of this exposure.
She's getting endorsements because she's unique. It's like Steph Curry's unique,
Tiger Wood's unique. But everybody gets it just because Hey,
I'd put in ten years in the w NBA or
the PGA Tour or the NBA. It doesn't work that way.
It's supply and demand. Do they want to buy your shoes?
(38:11):
Or do they not? Do they want to play your basketball?
Do they want to play with the Wilson I mean,
that's what this is about. It's not I'm better than her.
Maybe you are, but that doesn't mean you get an endorsement.
Hey you're better than her. Does that mean somebody's going
to buy your shoes? And the answer is no.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yes, if you're the WNBA, are you happy with this
press because this is better than no press at all?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yes, it's not always pretty social media. It's ugly, but
people are kind of using Caitlin Clark for their agenda
and that's the unfortunate part of it. And she's damned
if she does damned if she does it. You know,
you have people, people in the media criticizing her. You know,
(38:58):
why don't you know, stand up, take us stand When
Tiger and Michael Jordan ever took a stand made Michael
famously said Republicans by tennis shoes as well, Tiger wasn't involved,
you know, people wanting to be involved politically. Maybe Caitlyn
Clark just wants to play basketball. Ye know, she doesn't
want to be a lightning rod. She wants her game
(39:19):
to speak for herself and for the most part, she's
taken the high road with this. Angel Reese needs Caitlyn Clark.
Caitlin Clark does not need Angel Reese. We notice Angel
rees win when she plays against Kaitlyn Clark no other time.
I mean you might accidentally go oh oh, so that's
the woman.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
So maybe Caitlin gets some joy out of this. By
the end of the season, they're not a really good team,
not even a good team, but they're playing better and
she's playing better. Next year is when I want to
see how she plays and does she play differently.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
Yeah, Paully, I was watching the game of my daughters,
and as soon as the play happens, it was not
the biggest play in the world world when Reese hit
her in the head on the try to block. But
I knew it when I saw it, Like, oh man,
the people like you said, who are I call them
agenda opportunists. They see a play and they use it
and they don't watch the game and they use it
as an agenda to push whatever. And there's lots of
(40:15):
different angles of this. They're not going to get into
all the different angles, but there's lots of them, and
in every direction.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, and there's you know, race is certainly front and center.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Yeah, and people use one play from a game they
didn't watch to push something that's kind of real. But
that play was not the biggest play of the world.
It wasn't even the roughest play of the game.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's just they don't like it. You know, Angel Armies
doesn't like Kitlyn Clark. Go back to when she won
a national title. She didn't celebrate with her teammates. She
mocked Caitlyn Clark. So there's jealousy there. I certainly see
that with her. I don't know about the league, but
I do think that she's benefited. The WNBA has benefited
(40:54):
from Kitlin Clark and the publicity. She's the one that
has to answer these questions though.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
After games
Speaker 2 (41:03):
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