June 22, 2024 • 52 mins
Dan Patrick reacts to the Boston Celtics winning their 18th championship, beating the Dallas Mavericks in 5 games. Arkansas HC John Calipari joins Dan to explain the key moments and factors that led him to leave Kentucky for Arkansas. Plus, Dan reacts to the Lakers hiring JJ Redick as their new head coach.
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of the day coming up. Jalen Brown wins the finals MVP,
which is kind of sneaky.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There was a lot of talk about this, where who's
the leader, who's the best player on the team. Jason
Tatum is still the best player on the team. He's
always going to get your best defender, and as a result,
I thought Jalen Brown stepped up, and by stepping up,
it felt like he stood out and therefore he won
the MVP. The team still revolves around Jason Tatum. It's
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rare to have a championship team when your two best
players play the same position. It doesn't happen Normally. You
have your guard and your big man.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Maybe you have the guard and.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
A small forward, but you don't have two threes there
to all forwards. But Boston was able to do it
and go back a couple of years when they weren't
winning the title. They were getting there, they weren't winning it. Oh,
you got to blow it up. You're gonna have to
get rid of Jalen Brown. What could you get for
Jalen Brown. But Jalen Brown played great. It feels like
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he played above what people thought. Therefore he was more valuable.
Jason Tatum was wonderful last night. And if you look
at the numbers, I mean, those are impressive numbers. Those
are historical numbers when you're looking at the Boston Celtics.
But Jalen Brown the Finals MVP. Tatum at thirty one,
eleven and eight the first Celtic to have those numbers
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in an NBA Finals game since Larry Bird in nineteen
eighty six, and he averaged twenty five, ten and six
for the postseason.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, not yet.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Paul Pierce and Larry Bird are the only other players
who have done that for the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Wooday Stannaaday. This is the state of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I was waiting for something with the MAVs last night,
and I think that they basically gave you everything they
had in Game four. Boston's the better team, deeper team,
and really, if you look at how it's constructed, you
have to go back with some moves that were made.
And the most valuable player for the Celtics might have
been Dame Lillard because Dame Lillard goes to the Bucks.
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The Bucks make Drew holiday expendable holiday fills in whatever
the gray area was for Boston this year, ye had
Al Horford in there. They picked up christ tops Porzingis.
You know Washington didn't want him. They had to pay
part of his salary to send him to Boston. I mean,
there's so many things that happened. Derek White, Derek White
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trade with San Antonio. There's a Division two player. You
pick him up and you're.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Like that guy.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This guy's pretty good. That guy may plays hard. So
you have to have those players. It's just like Denver
last year. I can have Joker and Jamal, I gotta
have the other players. You can't win a championship with
just two players, two stars. You must have those guys
who are B players or C plus players. What do
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you need me to do, I'll do it. How long
do you need me to do it? I'll be in there,
I'll hustle. And that's what Boston had this year. It
just it worked. And I know that we want to
label was this a dynasty? I think they had the
chance to be a dynasty the last five years, six years.
Winning a title doesn't mean you're going to be a dynasty.
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I think we thought Milwaukee could be a dynasty. I
think we thought Denver could be a dynasty. Man, it's
tough and it's going to be tough for Boston. Again,
you can't get greedy, but we do get greedy as
fans because you got to go back to eight, the
last time they won a title, and that's a long
time ago. But they've had their opportunities and it's almost
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like they had like the Buffalo Bills, like they had
their opportunity, their window, and then they didn't capitalize on it.
Now with Boston, are they going to be a dynasty?
Wether two players are young, their two stars are young,
and because of that, you know, you give them a chance,
they're going to be the favorite. You know coming up
next year DraftKings already has them as the favorites. Then
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it's Denver, the Thunder, Timberwolves, Bucks in the maps. So
let's just look at the East. The only other competition
right now is the Bucks. Now you're almost guaranteed you're
going to be in the Eastern Conference finals again if
you just play relatively you know, consistent basketball. But for
Jason Tatum and we were wondering who benefited the most
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from winning a title. Well, certainly this guy, Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
It's a real feeling. I still hasn't really kicked in yet,
just trying, and I guess enjoyed a moment. I kept saying, Wow,
these last seven here's been a roller coaster up and down.
I had to listen on it about me and tonight
it was worth it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh my god, good for him, Good for him, Yes,
he did have to hear it. You get a max contract,
you're the best player on your team. We keep waiting
for you to win a title. First Team All NBA. Yes,
that goes along with the territory here. Now you're okay. Now,
Jason Chatum's on scholarship for a little while, Jalen Brown
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on scholarship, The Celtics on scholarship. Here, Brad Stevens take
a victory lap. And you did a wonderful job.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You go from coaching, go into the front office, and
you brought in in a sneaky way, Jeff Van Gundy
to help Joe Missoula as the head coach. Now Van
Gundy's going to go to the Clippers to be their
top assistant. I think he gets a ring for being
a consultant slash coach for the Celtics. I hope he does.
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And now he's going to go to the Clippers. The
Celtics gave him a lifeline because ESPN fired him and
all of a sudden he had to go back into coaching.
And now he's back in coaching and he'll go with
ty Loo and be the first assistant for the Clippers.
There a lot of people Joe Mizzoula benefited. We talked
about this when the playoffs started. If they don't win,
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they may make a change with their head coach. It's
like when Mike Budenholzer won a title with the Bucks,
he was going to get fired and eventually got fired,
but Joe Missoula was on the hot seat and he
was going to get the blame. He was going to
be the fall guy. It felt like Jalen Brown, your MVP,
talking about his teammate Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
We just take it one game at a time. You know,
we started this journey together. We both drafted here and
we both you know, have mate boss in our home.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Man.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
We just love getting after it, loved growing, love getting better,
tasting greatness. So I can't say enough about Jason Tatum, Man,
it sacrificed this year. His ability to just be selfless,
you know, really really showed in the finals, really showed
all playoffs. And I'm grateful, man, But I couldn't do
it without any of my teammates and JT How's my
brother for life?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yes, but it was a total team effort. If I said,
you know that Derek White and Drew Holliday, would they
have twenty rebounds?
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Combined. See your guards are getting twenty rebounds. And if
you watched the game last night, I kept saying, where's
Dallas's big men? Can you guys get some rebounds? Can
you keep some offensive rebounds? Can you keep it alive?
How about defensive rebounds? Boston is a better team. But
I don't know if I can go boy lack of
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effort on Dallas's part. I just think when you're third
best player is PJ Washington, you know you got to
strengthen the roster here. I don't know if Dallas is
going to get back. I think we saw some great
things from them. I think they would consider this a
good season, maybe great season that they got to the finals.
But if I'm looking at the West, you know, this
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next season. You're not gonna get back, I think playing
that kind of basketball because Denver got it just so
that it matched up. Minnesota was geared to beat Denver,
but Minnesota wasn't geared to beat Dallas, so you you know,
matchups are everything, you know. Meanwhile, Boston was geared up
to beat anybody. I kept thinking last night if Denver
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was in the finals, it'd be a whole lot.
Speaker 10 (09:30):
More entertaining watching this fire.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
That's I missed the Denver Nuggets so much this series.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Never more so than last night when I'm going.
Speaker 11 (09:40):
Like, I wanted to apologize that I've been taking you
guys for granted.
Speaker 10 (09:43):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm sorry. Joker's not around, He's not even in the
United States.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
Probably we get at Jamal Murray highlights.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, can we do something here? All right? What's
poll question we're going to go with.
Speaker 11 (09:56):
You know, I don't know that the Mavericks made many
adjustments either. I don't know that if Jason Kidd had
a great series or not, but they seem to stick
to this one game plan.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How many adjustments can you make?
Speaker 11 (10:08):
There has to be something more you can do than
like either all right, Kyrie, one of you, two guys
bring the ball up, will set a high screen for you,
do your best to get a shot off. There has
to be more of a game play. Everybody else stands
clear out. But they did what they did to get here.
And now you're saying, hey, you got to adjust. I
don't think they had. I mean it was checkers and
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chess here. There's gotta be something else you can do
other than well, we don't have the lob right now, Kyrie.
Just do you figure something out, Luca. You just if
Kyrie's not going to do it, then you do it.
There's got to be saying and if you're like right
like you said with the big man, like, hey, could
somebody just get a rebound? Just get one rebound? Just
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one we'll score. But you guys just help us out
on the boards.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Please. What's the poll question we're going to go with
first out?
Speaker 11 (10:56):
I think we're going to go with this is a
bit of a bigger topic. But who will this title
the most for it?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Okay? Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh, by the way, we just heard from Mike Breen
who was on the call. Brinievil jonas coming up in
an hour from now, he was working for the Mothership
in ABC.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
All right, see, we have to narrow this down to
four though, Okay, Okay, Jason Tatum obviously, Jylen Brown, same category, obviously, right,
Derek White, Okay.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
Al Horford.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Horford's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
We's got two NBA titles and he's got two NCAA titles.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is that right, Mark, He's got one NBA title.
Speaker 11 (11:40):
Oh, that was the one.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
That was the one last night. That's why it was
a big deal for We did it for Al.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, this one's for Hour.
Speaker 12 (11:50):
Thirty seven years old. He's been in fifteen playoff series
in his career and this is his first title for
big Al Horford.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay, Drew Holliday, that's his second second, right, he went
win with Milwaukes that.
Speaker 10 (12:05):
He's now gone into key piece territory.
Speaker 11 (12:08):
If you, if you want to that's gonna get him
another five five checks easily, another five contracts. Okay, if
you want to win, you bring a guy like me
in off the bench, No problem, I got you.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So, Joe Missoula, Tatum, basically Stevens. That's there's a lot
of people benefiting. Who do I think benefited the most?
Speaker 11 (12:28):
I feel like it's between Tatum, Brown, Missoula and Stevens.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But that's just me.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I would say Tatum because if you're going to be
labeled as one of the five to seven best players
in the game, you got to win a title here. Eventually,
you got to win a title. And you've gone to
the Eastern Conference finals, you've gone to the NBA Finals.
You haven't done well on the big stage in big games,
and now you finally did. I would say Jason Tatum,
and probably not a close second.
Speaker 12 (12:56):
Yes, PAULI dissent a little bit, a light dissensione Mizzoula
can get a new contract off this. He's established now,
but he has two off seasons and he's fired. They
clearly there's there's no longevity to winning a title. True,
ask Nick Nurse. He'll be out here. Joe Mizula will
not be the coach there in three years for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, and.
Speaker 12 (13:18):
Maybe our very last pie and Jason Tatum did a
clean up on Aisle five. You know, he's uncritiquable until
they don't advance to the finals next year. I look
at guys like Holiday and Horford that these are kind
of like on the cusp of being in the Hall
of Fame someday. Guys who are really borderline, it's not
an offensive statement to say they're borderline. But Drew Holliday
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two All Star appearances, you know, career average of sixteen points.
He may have snuck a ticket to the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
that that that's for the life.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, it's easier to get into the basketball Hall
of Fame than it is like the football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Certainly the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
They're they're more lenient and they're inclusive of what you
did with them or international play. I would say Tatum though,
because now you can validate, you can put that, you
can rubber stamp. Now you're one of the great Celtics
of all time. Gotta win titles. Gotta win titles, at
least a title like Paul Pierce. If he doesn't win
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a title, then Paul Pierce is just a great score.
He won a title, then all of a sudden, it's different, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
Yeah, I'm also go with Tatum. He's now in that
Giannis in Joker category where he won a title with
the team he was drafted by, which means a whole lot.
And now he's kind of on scholarship for a while
because look this whole dynasty talk. Relax because now we're
on year seven of Tatum and Brown. Told you they're
life young. They are like midlife crisis NBA, NBA.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't know if it's that.
Speaker 11 (14:48):
They definitely were at the you guys better do this quick.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
This year.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
Yeah, this year was a pivotal year for that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Kyrie is the one who is relatively young in life
but old in basketball because he came in at what nineteen,
Now he's thirty two. Now he's you know, he's mister Miyagi.
You know, he's got all this wisdom. Yeah, which I
had a jumper. Yeah, oh mister Miyagi could play. Yeah,
good handle, great hands. Wax On wax off. Absolutely. But Kyrie,
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you know, Kyrie, I think has got perspective now of
what happened and his role in that. He said, look,
he didn't embrace the Celtics. He didn't embrace Lebron Brooklyn
was terrible. He knows that. You know, the days are
running out. He had this to say about Luca after
the game. Did JB win finals?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
MVP?
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Yeah that was that was big time to see that
trophy in his hands. I think him and JT should
have split it. But you know, those two guys in particular,
have you know, almost been like students and as well
now becoming teachers in their own rights. So to see
them and accomplish that, I'm really proud, you know, and also
extremely motivated to get back to this position in the
next few years.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, my bad.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
He was talking about Tatum and Brown is former teammates
there and these guys, you know, six seven years into
their career and they're twenty six, twenty seven years of age.
You still got a window of opportunity here. And I
don't think the.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
East is great.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Let's say Paul George goes to the Sixers, all right,
now you got my attention. Are the Knicks going to
be able to be the Knicks that we saw in
the postseason, just healthier? What about the Bucks? What about
the heat? Is there an outlier there? But if I'm Boston,
I'm like, I'm good. Nobody scares me here, at least
not yet. Now you've got a chance to be in
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the Eastern Conference finals, maybe another NBA finals, And I
don't know if you can pencil in Denver because of
what happened. Can I pencil in Dallas, Can I pencil
in Oklahoma City? Houston's going to be, you know, a
team on the climb. So you probably got five or
six teams that are legitimately title contenders or at least
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they can get to the NBA Finals in the West.
In the East, it feels like it's Boston, and then
we take a step back. I don't even know if
there's a second team. I think you got to go
down to number three before you go. Okay, they got
a chance, but you do have the hangover all the time,
and then you're gonna get players who want to get paid.
Maybe they end up with other teams, you know, because
Denver had that problem. They lost some players, and to me,
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that was a big difference. You know, when you lose
Bruce Brown, like you lost a really valuable player, and
that happens sometimes. But I think what we saw very
impressive with Dallas. They were the best team during the
regular season and they showed that during the postseason.
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Speaker 2 (18:18):
Final hour in this Wednesday, we'll talk to Arkansas head
coach John Calipari. Sounds weird to say that. Also, Jamal Crawford,
Turner's Sports will join us. He's been working out Victor Weimbanyama.
I was surprised at that. Marvin Goes. I got some
social media pictures where Jamal Crawford's working out with the Victor.
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I go, let's get him on the show, so he'll
join us. Coming up here in a little bit. Celtics
prede is set for Friday. We'll have a game six
Friday in the Stanley Cup Final, the Oilers over the
Panthers five to three, and the passing of the Giants
Hall of Famer Willie Mays at the age of ninety three.
It's strange to say somebody is far greater than legendary,
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And to me, Willie Mays was not legendary. He was iconic.
And there's a difference in that. There's certain athletes in
certain sports. You can have a legendary career or you
can have an iconic career. And Willie Mays, as we've
talked about throughout the show, had an iconic career. It
wasn't just he was a spectacular baseball player. He was
bigger than just being a great baseball player. And he
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came in four years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier.
Willie did get some exposure in New York with the
New York Giants and then went to San Francisco and
played in that god awful Candlestick Park, Windy Candlestick Park.
Once again, greatest centerfielder ever, And you factor in the
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head coach at Arkansas. It sounds weird. Does it sound
weird to you? Or do you pass now that you're
the Arkansas head coach? You're You're fine with it sounds
sounds comfortable.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
No, it's comfortable. Look here's I've been at different jobs,
you know. I was at UMass eight years, Memphis nine years,
fifteen years at Kentucky it's dog years now, and I
loved it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And it was a great run.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
We helped a lot of families, won a lot of games,
won a lot of league championships, final fours, Elite eights,
national Titleswitch, I mean they needed to hear another voice.
I wasn't planning on this, but when it came along,
kind of like being a DESPN and then other opportunities
come along and you say, wait a minute, I got
to take advance this now.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Let me look.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And over a two or three day period, I'm like,
they're in the sec.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Two. They got great facilities.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
They have a great fan base, a great building that
seats twenty thousand, great home court, pretty good support as
you would know in this corner of Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
The what's here?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And then lastly, I got to hire my son. No,
he's not one of my top three guys, but he's in.
He's on court. He can go out and recruit a
little bit and get started. And so a lot of
good reasons, and I'm excited about it. Let me help
another thirty forty families. Then I'll go into doing a podcast.
How about we do that?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But did you did you jump before you were pushed?
Can can we be fair about the situation at Kentucky?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I don't think that was the case. But and again,
it had nothing to do with fans. Fans to a
nick game and they're playing bad. What are they doing
in the second quarter?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
They're doing?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I mean, fans are fans, Kentucky fans are engaged. They
were exactly what you want in a fan until you
lose a game you're not supposed to lose, and they're
still engaged. So it had nothing to do with that.
For me to do what I'm doing, I needed that tailwind. No, headwinds.
We needed to be able to move in what we
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were doing. And you know, as far as saying, well
they pushed you out, No, I don't think that was
the case.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But again, let.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
It be good for both. I mean, I had fifteen
great years there. Let Mark Popev fifteen great years. Let
me finish how I want to finish. Let me build
another program, Let's win another national championship, Let's help another
twenty five families.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Let me let me do this and you can.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
You and I've been when you didn't have gray hair,
but you we've been doing this a long time. And
whether I was at UMass, you and I you came
in and miss jump shots, whether I was at Memphis
and we were doing this in Kentucky over the years,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
When I was with the Nets, did we do anything? Yes,
Oh we did. Yeah, it was after I got fired.
Tell me, how do you feel now?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think I ask you why Kerry Kittles and not
Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah you did that. You've did that for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Okay, how does Arkansas know you're available? If you're happy
at Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
A good friend of mine, John Tyson, and I've been
friends for twenty years. Tyson Chicken, Yeah, twenty years, twenty
five years. Maybe tried to get me to take the
job when I was in Memphis in two thousand and seven. Maybe,
And at that time then if I left, I left
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players like they were there and my assistant wasn't going
to get the job.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I wasn't comfortable just leaving.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
And that was Derrick Rose, Antonio Anderson, Chris Douglas, Robert
Robert Dozer, Joey Dorsey. I can go on the guys
that I would have left. So he calls me on
a Thursday night. I'm at the Final four and he said, cow,
it's Johnny and I said what's up? And he said
(24:33):
I need you to meet with the AD And I
said what ad. They said, our a d at Arkansas.
And I said, okay, what are we meeting about. Well,
he wants to talk to you about candidates and the
job and what he's trying to do, and why don't
you meet with him? I said, okay, but I'm leaving
town at one o'clock on Friday, so we got to
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meet at eleven eleven thirty and I'll give him an hour. Well,
in the conversation, you can imagine. If you think this
is such a great job, why not you? And he said,
give me fifteen minutes to talk about you. And then
I looked at my watch and I said, I got
to go. I got a guy downstairs who I'm flying with,
and I got to get down there. And he said, well,
(25:19):
I'm not going to do anything till you tell me now.
And then we spent two days and I'll give you
the conversation that change me. Kelvin Sampson and I've been
friends for a long long time. I called Calvin to
check on Hunter, the ad who had been at Houston
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with him.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, he went crazy. I love him, He's the best.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
He says, he's at okay, okay, but I'm having a
hard time because I'm going to end up leaving players.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And Calvin went crazy, what if you leave?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
They can leave, they can go where they want, they
can go with you, they can go. Oh what are
you talking about? This isn't ten years ago? And then
he said the one that got me.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And if you stay, they can leave, they.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Can go somewhere else, they can go pro This is different.
And you know what, that got me to think in
a different way, and within thirty six hours, I said,
you know what, I want this new challenge. I want
to help a bunch of families. I want to bring
something to that state and that program that explodes the state,
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and let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Let's go do this.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Okay, you're recruiting philosophy at Kentucky was well known. Your
recruiting philosophy at Arkansas is going to be what.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I can't take seven freshmen until these rules change. Last
year our team was average age was nineteen four. The
team we played against and teams we played against were
twenty four twenty three. We played against twenty six year olds,
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so that's nineteen as a freshman. He's twenty six. So
I am still going to recruit the best freshmen, probably
take three or four, not seven. I can't take that many.
You would hope a couple kids will stay and I'll
bring in a couple transfers that are a little bit older.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I don't want to have twelve guys.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
You know who I'm doing this like back in the day,
a guy named Coach Smith, Dean Smith back in the
day recruited for ten, eleven, and twelve recruited specifically for
that spot.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Now there may be injuries.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
The guy may be better than everybody thought, he may
beat somebody out, but he's being recruited for ten eleven
and twelve. I want eight or nine guys on scholarship,
nil all that, and then I want ten eleven twelve.
We got nine on scholarship. We're adding ten eleven twelve
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and they'll be good players, but they're not going to be.
But it doesn't mean they can't beat somebody out. It's
just I'm doing it kind of like North Carolina in
the seven Should I say seventy five eighty eight? Well,
he was there till ninety he was doing it most
of his career.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, he's the Arkansas head coach John Caliperry.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Can I have your Kentucky admit? You have to say
that now because they don't have anyone who I am.
I know Arkansas head coach. He used to coach at Kentucky.
Let me tell everybody, I'm here with Dan Patrick. You
may not know him, but you're here with Dan Patty.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
We're both Hall of Famers coach, We're both we're both
Hall of famers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
All right? Can I have your Kentucky gear? It's gone already?
Wait yard sale. Uh come on, tag sail. Well, it
was in Mass. I sold, I sold it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I just threw it in my house on my bed
on couches, and all my friends and their kids came
over and take what you want. The best items were
the Kentucky shoes that had UK on them.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Gone. Gave a great there. Come on, I could have
put in the man cave.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
No, no, no, I got it's gone. It's it's uh.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Why don't you help my family? You're always talking about
helping others other families. What about mine? Why don't you
help my family?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Helped you?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, I paid you to come to U Mass, and
so I put I put on an aerial display, and
your you just can't acknowledge it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's okay, Clark Kellogg was there. Clark Kellogg is a
religious man who never lies, and he'll tell you the
truth what happened that day. Okay, So go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. Mock me goes living in denial, living in denial. Yeah,
that's what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
When Dan Hurley is entertaining the Lakers and vice versa,
your thought was.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I really like Danny, so I wanted what he wanted
for he and his family. But he's in an unbelievable
spot and he has a chance to keep that going.
The only thing I thought that maybe play a part
(30:34):
is in college basketball, at the end of every year,
every kid is a free agent.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
This is like being an NBA coach. Your season ends,
you don't have anybody in the contract. They're all able
to go and go and do what they want and
then the nil knowing how that's playing out, and Danny,
I know, And it was funny because Danny said, man
quit wine.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
And we're all making all the money. I'm more where.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I'm fine here at Arkansas. But what if I were
at UMass. What if Danny was still at Rhode Island,
He'd be saying that like to get guys to stay.
So that would have been the only reason that I
thought he would say, you know what, I don't want
to deal with this. Some guys have retired. I'm just
(31:22):
trying to be the best at this situation. The playpen
we're in, how do we have the best toys?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I mean, that's.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
It isn't what I'd want, more guardrails, you know, I
want kids to make money.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
You know high that is.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
But it's like, okay, let's get it organized. Let's get organized,
let's get guardrails. Let's figure out how this we don't
hurt kids by what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I wonder if we can get to a point
where you sign a two year deal to go to
college and can can can we do something that like
nil deals that your contract is for two years? Or
is there any give me a solution. You know you're saying,
let's solve it. Give me a solution.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
First of all, I've been saying for five years.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Now you're putting up ten fingers. That's ten. There you go,
that's fine. That's five.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Five Pittsburgh five years to play, Yins, five years to
play four, five years to play four, which is the way.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It was when you played back in the forties.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I mean you had five years to play for If
you got injured, you got an extra year. If you
got red shirted, you got an extra year. What if
you got hurt three different years? Buzzard luck, my man.
I don't know what to tell you. This is amateur
basketball right now. They just cleared Danca a player to
play football for his ninth year. So I'm playing in
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a game last year where the guy making the shots
is twenty six years old, should have been out of
school three years maybe four.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So let's get back. We can do that now. They said, well,
COVID and all stop. You're giving waivers to everybody five
years to play four solved sixty seventy percent of our problems.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know what would have solved a problem is somebody
guarded that guy during the.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Tray that truth.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Made flow shots and all that. Yeah, just like he
let's not go back to that because I'm still sick
over CoA.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
She's all way.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I told Hunter the aad here. You know, I'm still
hacked off over that game, he said. And I'm not happy.
He said, well, I'm happy. I'm happy it happened. Yeah,
you know so, but anyway, there's people look at Oakland's
happy it happened.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah. It's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
If you stay at the same school four years, you
get a fifth year.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
So now it rewards that. The guys that say, I'm deciding.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Okay, if that kid at Oakland still had another year
of eligibility, would you reach out to him to add
him to Arkansas?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I wouldn't do that to my good friend.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Oh you know, I'm not reaching out and doing that, Okay,
But he look. And I don't begrudge a kid to
take advantage of the rules. He should have been playing
because he was allowed to play.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
But it wasn't just him.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
There were by the way, he was twenty four. Coach,
you said twenty six.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
So who's in your ear? Because you wouldn't. I just
googled it, so Jack, Yeah, yeah, okay, But again shooters,
no shooters. So that's why you didn't know him. That's
why you did not know him, Like who's hey, who's
that guy out there? I wouldn't say you just so
you know. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
If they came to me and said I need you
to take a look at him, I already have, and
don't tell me to look more at him. I understand.
I saw him shoot three airballs, and you were telling
me he's a shoot.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Once again, that's lying. See now, anything you say, I
have to go, he's he lies. He lied about the
guy at Oakland Jack, who's twenty four, not twenty six. See,
once again, these things hurt you. I'm trying to help
your credibility. Here, tell the truth, free your mind and
the resk I'll follows.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I had to help me, that's why. But the other
side of it with the nil, I don't know now
that they've gone to where they are, how do you
reel it back in. I don't have the answer. How
do you say, well, we're not going to do as much,
or you got to sign a two year deal. I
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don't have that answer, but I do know five to
play fours the first and it's a solution that you
can do.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Did you change your number?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Because I was on vacation in Italy and I say,
I leave the country and you leave Kentucky and then
I never hear from you.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Did you change your number? Did you go big time?
I wouldn't have called you, but no, I didn't. You
didn't respond to me. You could have texted me. Oh
I didn't see you. Did Kentucky keep the phone? No,
it's my phone. Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I got my own phone. I got my own email.
I don't have a computer, but I got my own.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Would have been nice, though, on vacation, took time out
to say hey, I was I was there scouting?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah right, yeah, trying to where did you vacation in Italy?
I was Poolia. We're it's in the middle, Yeah, it's
in the middle. Family.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I'm an Italian citizen too. By the way, I'm a
dual citizen. I got a passport, all the stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I'm trying to get that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
My wife is Italian, so I'm trying to trying to
get Maybe you could help me on. This is where
you help out a family.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, I'm not. No, it's too hard and I'm not
I've done one time it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh, let's get Mark Pope on talking to somebody's gonna
go a little further this year?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Who goes further this year? Arkansas or Kentucky in the tournament? Here,
we're out of time. We're out of time. Thank you, coach,
always great to talk to you. Thanks guys, Dan always good.
Pank your hair a little bit. You're looking good.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Thank you, Thank you. You're still doing it. Yeah, looking good.
So he's got to look younger. Gotta look younger.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You guys are like a comedy trip over there.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Did the trip and then I'll look like coach cow.
Let's take a break here. Jamal Crawford is going to
join us coming up next? What's he doing with Victor Wembenyama?
And is JJ Reddick the right coach for the Lakers?
And he's portrayed in the series clipped on the La Clippers.
What's it like to watch a show where somebody's playing you?
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So we'll talk to Jamal Crawford next year on The
Dan Patrick Show.
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The big headline is the Lakers finally hired JJ Reddick.
It's a four year deal. We'll talk about that also.
The assistant coaches that fascinates me a whole lot more.
We'll talk about that strategy coming up. Celtics Parade later today,
and tonight it's the Panthers at the Oilers Gain six.
I want to go back to May twenty fifth of
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twenty twenty three, had JJ Reddick on and we were
talking about a variety of things, and I ask him
this question, where did this come from wanting to maybe
be a head coach?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
Well, I mean you certainly you certainly missed the competitive
side of professional basketball when you retire, and that's probably
the biggest hitch. I'm loving what I'm doing right now,
and I'm in a very fortunate situation that I can
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kind of wait and just see if there's anything that
materializes that's sort of a perfect fit. You know, I've
talked with teams now going on a year about assistant jobs,
and I'm interested in being a head coach. I don't
have to start as the head coach. I don't have
to start a new assistant. It doesn't matter to me.
It's more just about the fit and the people that are,
(40:16):
you know, at the organization.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So that's May twenty fifth of twenty twenty three, so
a little more than a year ago. He started flirting
with teams and vice versa. Then he had a podcast,
Then he became the lead analyst for the Mothership with
their coverage of the NBA. Jeff Van Gundy got kicked
to the curb, Mark Jackson got kicked to the curb.
Doris Burke and JJ came in. Then all of a sudden,
(40:40):
there was an exchange on first Take between JJ Reddick
and Steven A. Smith where JJ Reddick pointed out, do
people really want to be taught basketball? And he gave
a couple of things. He had a couple of references.
One was Zion Williamson and what he's doing with the
Pelicans the last twenty games playing point forward, and he
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said he got, you know, twenty thousand views. And then
there was another part where he criticized Doc Rivers with
the Milwaukee Bucks, and that got millions of views. So
his point was with Steven A, does anybody really care
about being taught basketball? And maybe maybe Lebron is listening
to that and going, wow, Okay, that guy is. He
(41:24):
knows basketball, he's sharp, and he's telling us things. And
then all of a sudden they start to do a podcast.
Now is it a coincidence that they started to do
a podcast after that? The fact that he then became
a candidate for the Lakers job was supposed to be
his job, and then all of a sudden, wait a minute,
Dan Hurley could be interested in the Lakers. Okay, forget
(41:46):
about JJ Reddick. Let's go all in on Dan Hurley.
And then all of a sudden, Dan Hurley said, no,
I'm standing to Connecticut. Let's go back in on JJ Reddick.
And it felt like it was always his job to lose,
and then he lost it and then he got it back.
But I'm curious who JJ Reddick is going to surround
himself with because when we talk about experience, we use
that a lot, and it's prevalent throughout the interviewing process.
(42:09):
When you're going to hire a head coach. Dan Campbell,
Lions head coach, had never even been a coordinator and
he got the job as the Lions head coach. Now
they hired a lot of veteran coordinators to help him.
Now that's what you need to do. Dean Sanders had
never been a coach at a Power five school before
going to Colorado. They had great recruiting, also a veteran
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coaching staff. He got somebody from the Alabama coaching staff
and primeterm turned one of the worst teams in college
football into a respectable team in one season. So the
Lakers are looking for that similar leap, that similar amount
of success first year with JJ Redick. It's a four
year deal, which means if he survives the four years,
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he's probably going to be coaching Anthony Davis and not
lebron James.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
What did they do with Brownie?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I was told yesterday, Now it's more likely that they're
taking Bronnie James, as if there was much doubt there,
but now it looks like you're going to be taking
Bronnie James, and you're going to surround yourself with maybe
Sam Cassell, who was a head coaching candidate here, maybe
Stan Van Gundy would be a guy you add to
your roster. I also thought it was interesting ironic that
(43:26):
the reason why Jeff van Gundy, at least one of
the reasons why he was let go by ESPN as
their analyst, was they were worried he was going to
take another head coaching job.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, he didn't take one, and he.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Was an assistant coach or he was a consultant with
the Celtics. Now he's an assistant coach with the Clippers.
But here's JJ Reddick taking the job less than a
year later. He's a head coach in the NBA. But
I want to know who he surrounds himself with because
JJ feels like the CEO. He's very knowledgeable. Everybody can
talk talk about that. He walks in. He looks like
(44:02):
he's playing the role in a movie of you're the
Lakers head coach. Now you have somebody you can put
out in front of the media. It goes back to
what I said yesterday that job is sort of the
cowboys job of the NBA. Everything is under the microscope everything,
and you got Lebron in there as well. So JJ
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has to be able to filter out all of the naysayers,
the criticism. It's gonna be there's gonna be so much
gossip here. There's gonna be like, I'm here, Oh what
about the other players?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Is he showing up? You know, preferential treatment to Lebron?
Do you continue your podcast with Lebron? Like that's a
big question, mark. Can you continue a podcast with Lebron
while coaching the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
While it would be great TV, great podcasting, great content,
if I'm the Lakers, I don't want my head coach
with his hat backwards, it's talking to Lebron.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
James. You got a job to do.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Entertain people by putting an entertaining product out on the floor,
not with your podcast.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't know what's in the language of the contract,
but that's what I would say. No, we want you
to be the head coach of the Lakers. I don't
need you to do it. It's like Doug Gottlieb is
coaching Wisconsin Green Bay Stevens Point while doing his radio show.
That's different. He can use that for publicity for his program.
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He'll need that publicity for his program, you know, putting
them on the map, He's already gotten publicity. The Lakers
don't need publicity, they don't need to have him do
this so they can have more people interested in the Lakers.
JJ Reddicks, who just coach the Lakers, be the CEO
of the Lakers. Now you bring in some really good
assistant coaches. Jared Dudley who's with the MAVs. He's somebody
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that they're going to try to bring in. Sam Cassell
with the Celtics, they're going to try to bring him in.
That's the important part of all of this to me,
because I need somebody who can coach or at least direct.
And then I had the underlings, the assistant coaches, who
are going to be able to do this day to day.
They're going to be doing the day to day process here.
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So and if I'm JJ Reddick, I'm not threatened by
these guys who might be there waiting to take my job.
If we win, then if I'm JJ Reddick, I win.
If we don't win, then I'm going to be vulnerable
no matter what. But if you bring in good assistant
coaches and you surround him, then I think you got
at least a head start here. It doesn't mean they're
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going to be good. I mean if you said, what
job would you take? Cleveland, Detroit or the Lakers. If
I'm JJ Reddick, I would have taken Detroit or Cleveland.
But it's because I have a chance to just be
a coach, not a thing like he's got to go
in there, he's got to be something like Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
You just coach Detroit. You just coach.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And you know his former teammate, Trajan Langdon, former Dukie,
is now running the Pistons.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
You fire Manti Williams.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I sent a note to the Danetz yesterday saying, how
is this possible? You got a guy who has five
more years, sixty five million dollars, and you surprise him,
blindside him, you rush in and fire him. And it's
a fellow Dukie, And here's JJ Reddick. And we keep
waiting for the Lakers. Are they going to sign this guy?
And then all of a sudden, I'm thinking, is JJ
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Reddick got cold feet? Here going well, I don't know,
wait a minute, here, maybe maybe the Pistons, you know,
a terrible team. I can go in and I can
learn how to coach. He has to be ready to
coach when you coach the Lakers. Now I get it.
You win then all of a sudden, you know your
legacy is firmly cemented. Well, not necessarily because you know,
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Frank Vogel won a title for him. I don't think
there's any statue. Is there a statue for Frank Vogel? Yeah,
checking it's probably in Orlando that they built it right
outside the But this is a legacy play as well.
You're coaching the Lakers. This is why Dan Hurley was
interested because JJ Reddick gave up a job that he
could do for the next ten years, be the analyst
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and all the NBA. It's a great gig, but it's
not as exciting as being on the floor being the
head coach, being the Laker head coach coaching Lebron.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yes see, I know that sometimes.
Speaker 11 (48:29):
I think like for us sitting here, you're like, man,
you're calling all the games. Is a great gig, like
sitting on this side of things. But if you're a
former player, you're like, well, I'll do that. I guess, yeah,
I'll do that.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
But I'd rather be coaching.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's exciting when I would go, you know, we take
the NBA show to the Western Conference Finals of the
NBA Finals, and like you're on the floor. Well, if
I'm a former player, I'm on the floor. But I
don't like just being on the floor. I want to
be on the floor doing something like coaching. And JJ
had a long, long career and played for a lot
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of different teams, a lot of different coaches, and you know,
obviously has coach K on speed dial if he wants
to talk to his former coach. There, Duke gets some ideas, thoughts,
and it's and it's winning the locker room too. It's
not just hey, you got a coach and you got
to win. Got to make sure everybody's happy as well. Wait, see,
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given preferential treatment to Lebron, you know how's AD feel
about this? What about the other player? He's got to
develop the roster. That's the key, Like you can plug
in Lebron. You know, twenty seven, seven and seven, Ad
is gonna if he plays, you know, more than seventy
five games again, and he gives you whatever, twenty six
(49:46):
twelve and you know, four three blocks.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Now it's the other guys that I'm worried about, because
that's where your success or your failure is going to
be a lot of teams that have two really good
players it's the player around them that make them a
playoff team, make them a title threat, and that's I
think that's the biggest thing that JJ Reddick's going to
have to do.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Win the locker room. And also, you know in game.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Changes, you know that that that they didn't they weren't
able to adapt in game That was the big knock
on Darbenham. You know, can you can you change something?
What are you doing? What's different here? Now he has
to do that as well. That's where you get people's attention, like, hey,
they're doing this, we're going to do this. Then all
of a sudden it's successful and you're going, all right,
I'm gonna listen to that guy.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yes, Mark, what.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
Should be the Lakers realistic goal for next season?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Not to play in the play in game? How about
we solidify a playoff spot. How about your the fifth seed?
Fourth seed? I think that would be a fair goal.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Second round of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yes, yes, Now that's not going to be the expectations.
It's going to be greater than that, because you're going
to go, all right, are welast year's team or we
the team the previous year when we went to the
Western Conference finals, you've got to figure out how good
you are and be realistic with that. And if this
is a four year deal, what is the plan, because
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you got to have a Lebron plan and then a
post Lebron plan, and I think that will be interesting.
And it feels like, you know, these coaches only last
two years there. If JJ Reddick lasts three years or more,
then he's solved Lebron ad and he's built something there
and there's a culture that's there. But this isn't easy.
(51:37):
This isn't easy at all. And I know it sounds
crazy to say I'd rather coach Cleveland or Detroit. It's
because it allows me to kind of go in and
learn on the job with a younger roster. Now Cleveland
is a playoff team. Detroit is a bad team. But
you get to go in and now we're together. We're
going to figure this out together and we're going to
become something. And it's not like Detroit's not a legacy.
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I mean, they've had great teams. But that's what I
thought that maybe he would go to Detroit or maybe
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Wog just said that DJ Reddick assigned a four year
deal with the Lakers. I'm like, I'm so fired up.
I'm like, I'm so ahead of this. He's going to
go to Detroit
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of the day coming up. Jalen Brown wins the finals MVP,
which is kind of sneaky.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I know.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There was a lot of talk about this, where who's
the leader, who's the best player on the team. Jason
Tatum is still the best player on the team. He's
always going to get your best defender, and as a result,
I thought Jalen Brown stepped up, and by stepping up,
it felt like he stood out and therefore he won
the MVP. The team still revolves around Jason Tatum. It's
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rare to have a championship team when your two best
players play the same position. It doesn't happen Normally. You
have your guard and your big man.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Maybe you have the guard and.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
A small forward, but you don't have two threes there
to all forwards. But Boston was able to do it
and go back a couple of years when they weren't
winning the title. They were getting there, they weren't winning it. Oh,
you got to blow it up. You're gonna have to
get rid of Jalen Brown. What could you get for
Jalen Brown. But Jalen Brown played great. It feels like
(02:15):
he played above what people thought. Therefore he was more valuable.
Jason Tatum was wonderful last night. And if you look
at the numbers, I mean, those are impressive numbers. Those
are historical numbers when you're looking at the Boston Celtics.
But Jalen Brown the Finals MVP. Tatum at thirty one,
eleven and eight the first Celtic to have those numbers
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in an NBA Finals game since Larry Bird in nineteen
eighty six, and he averaged twenty five, ten and six
for the postseason.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, not yet.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Paul Pierce and Larry Bird are the only other players
who have done that for the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Wooday Stannaaday. This is the state of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I was waiting for something with the MAVs last night,
and I think that they basically gave you everything they
had in Game four. Boston's the better team, deeper team,
and really, if you look at how it's constructed, you
have to go back with some moves that were made.
And the most valuable player for the Celtics might have
been Dame Lillard because Dame Lillard goes to the Bucks.
(03:35):
The Bucks make Drew holiday expendable holiday fills in whatever
the gray area was for Boston this year, ye had
Al Horford in there. They picked up christ tops Porzingis.
You know Washington didn't want him. They had to pay
part of his salary to send him to Boston. I mean,
there's so many things that happened. Derek White, Derek White
(03:55):
trade with San Antonio. There's a Division two player. You
pick him up and you're.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Like that guy.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This guy's pretty good. That guy may plays hard. So
you have to have those players. It's just like Denver
last year. I can have Joker and Jamal, I gotta
have the other players. You can't win a championship with
just two players, two stars. You must have those guys
who are B players or C plus players. What do
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you need me to do, I'll do it. How long
do you need me to do it? I'll be in there,
I'll hustle. And that's what Boston had this year. It
just it worked. And I know that we want to
label was this a dynasty? I think they had the
chance to be a dynasty the last five years, six years.
Winning a title doesn't mean you're going to be a dynasty.
(04:43):
I think we thought Milwaukee could be a dynasty. I
think we thought Denver could be a dynasty. Man, it's
tough and it's going to be tough for Boston. Again,
you can't get greedy, but we do get greedy as
fans because you got to go back to eight, the
last time they won a title, and that's a long
time ago. But they've had their opportunities and it's almost
(05:03):
like they had like the Buffalo Bills, like they had
their opportunity, their window, and then they didn't capitalize on it.
Now with Boston, are they going to be a dynasty?
Wether two players are young, their two stars are young,
and because of that, you know, you give them a chance,
they're going to be the favorite. You know coming up
next year DraftKings already has them as the favorites. Then
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it's Denver, the Thunder, Timberwolves, Bucks in the maps. So
let's just look at the East. The only other competition
right now is the Bucks. Now you're almost guaranteed you're
going to be in the Eastern Conference finals again if
you just play relatively you know, consistent basketball. But for
Jason Tatum and we were wondering who benefited the most
(05:47):
from winning a title. Well, certainly this guy, Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
It's a real feeling. I still hasn't really kicked in yet,
just trying, and I guess enjoyed a moment. I kept saying, Wow,
these last seven here's been a roller coaster up and down.
I had to listen on it about me and tonight
it was worth it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh my god, good for him, Good for him, Yes,
he did have to hear it. You get a max contract,
you're the best player on your team. We keep waiting
for you to win a title. First Team All NBA. Yes,
that goes along with the territory here. Now you're okay. Now,
Jason Chatum's on scholarship for a little while, Jalen Brown
(06:29):
on scholarship, The Celtics on scholarship. Here, Brad Stevens take
a victory lap. And you did a wonderful job.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You go from coaching, go into the front office, and
you brought in in a sneaky way, Jeff Van Gundy
to help Joe Missoula as the head coach. Now Van
Gundy's going to go to the Clippers to be their
top assistant. I think he gets a ring for being
a consultant slash coach for the Celtics. I hope he does.
(06:59):
And now he's going to go to the Clippers. The
Celtics gave him a lifeline because ESPN fired him and
all of a sudden he had to go back into coaching.
And now he's back in coaching and he'll go with
ty Loo and be the first assistant for the Clippers.
There a lot of people Joe Mizzoula benefited. We talked
about this when the playoffs started. If they don't win,
(07:23):
they may make a change with their head coach. It's
like when Mike Budenholzer won a title with the Bucks,
he was going to get fired and eventually got fired,
but Joe Missoula was on the hot seat and he
was going to get the blame. He was going to
be the fall guy. It felt like Jalen Brown, your MVP,
talking about his teammate Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
We just take it one game at a time. You know,
we started this journey together. We both drafted here and
we both you know, have mate boss in our home.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Man.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
We just love getting after it, loved growing, love getting better,
tasting greatness. So I can't say enough about Jason Tatum, Man,
it sacrificed this year. His ability to just be selfless,
you know, really really showed in the finals, really showed
all playoffs. And I'm grateful, man, But I couldn't do
it without any of my teammates and JT How's my
brother for life?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yes, but it was a total team effort. If I said,
you know that Derek White and Drew Holliday, would they
have twenty rebounds?
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Combined. See your guards are getting twenty rebounds. And if
you watched the game last night, I kept saying, where's
Dallas's big men? Can you guys get some rebounds? Can
you keep some offensive rebounds? Can you keep it alive?
How about defensive rebounds? Boston is a better team. But
I don't know if I can go boy lack of
(08:44):
effort on Dallas's part. I just think when you're third
best player is PJ Washington, you know you got to
strengthen the roster here. I don't know if Dallas is
going to get back. I think we saw some great
things from them. I think they would consider this a
good season, maybe great season that they got to the finals.
But if I'm looking at the West, you know, this
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next season. You're not gonna get back, I think playing
that kind of basketball because Denver got it just so
that it matched up. Minnesota was geared to beat Denver,
but Minnesota wasn't geared to beat Dallas, so you you know,
matchups are everything, you know. Meanwhile, Boston was geared up
to beat anybody. I kept thinking last night if Denver
(09:28):
was in the finals, it'd be a whole lot.
Speaker 10 (09:30):
More entertaining watching this fire.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
That's I missed the Denver Nuggets so much this series.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Never more so than last night when I'm going.
Speaker 11 (09:40):
Like, I wanted to apologize that I've been taking you
guys for granted.
Speaker 10 (09:43):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm sorry. Joker's not around, He's not even in the
United States.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
Probably we get at Jamal Murray highlights.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, can we do something here? All right? What's
poll question we're going to go with.
Speaker 11 (09:56):
You know, I don't know that the Mavericks made many
adjustments either. I don't know that if Jason Kidd had
a great series or not, but they seem to stick
to this one game plan.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How many adjustments can you make?
Speaker 11 (10:08):
There has to be something more you can do than
like either all right, Kyrie, one of you, two guys
bring the ball up, will set a high screen for you,
do your best to get a shot off. There has
to be more of a game play. Everybody else stands
clear out. But they did what they did to get here.
And now you're saying, hey, you got to adjust. I
don't think they had. I mean it was checkers and
(10:29):
chess here. There's gotta be something else you can do
other than well, we don't have the lob right now, Kyrie.
Just do you figure something out, Luca. You just if
Kyrie's not going to do it, then you do it.
There's got to be saying and if you're like right
like you said with the big man, like, hey, could
somebody just get a rebound? Just get one rebound? Just
(10:50):
one we'll score. But you guys just help us out
on the boards.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Please. What's the poll question we're going to go with
first out?
Speaker 11 (10:56):
I think we're going to go with this is a
bit of a bigger topic. But who will this title
the most for it?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Okay? Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh, by the way, we just heard from Mike Breen
who was on the call. Brinievil jonas coming up in
an hour from now, he was working for the Mothership
in ABC.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
All right, see, we have to narrow this down to
four though, Okay, Okay, Jason Tatum obviously, Jylen Brown, same category, obviously, right,
Derek White, Okay.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
Al Horford.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Horford's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
We's got two NBA titles and he's got two NCAA titles.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is that right, Mark, He's got one NBA title.
Speaker 11 (11:40):
Oh, that was the one.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
That was the one last night. That's why it was
a big deal for We did it for Al.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, this one's for Hour.
Speaker 12 (11:50):
Thirty seven years old. He's been in fifteen playoff series
in his career and this is his first title for
big Al Horford.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay, Drew Holliday, that's his second second, right, he went
win with Milwaukes that.
Speaker 10 (12:05):
He's now gone into key piece territory.
Speaker 11 (12:08):
If you, if you want to that's gonna get him
another five five checks easily, another five contracts. Okay, if
you want to win, you bring a guy like me
in off the bench, No problem, I got you.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So, Joe Missoula, Tatum, basically Stevens. That's there's a lot
of people benefiting. Who do I think benefited the most?
Speaker 11 (12:28):
I feel like it's between Tatum, Brown, Missoula and Stevens.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But that's just me.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I would say Tatum because if you're going to be
labeled as one of the five to seven best players
in the game, you got to win a title here. Eventually,
you got to win a title. And you've gone to
the Eastern Conference finals, you've gone to the NBA Finals.
You haven't done well on the big stage in big games,
and now you finally did. I would say Jason Tatum,
and probably not a close second.
Speaker 12 (12:56):
Yes, PAULI dissent a little bit, a light dissensione Mizzoula
can get a new contract off this. He's established now,
but he has two off seasons and he's fired. They
clearly there's there's no longevity to winning a title. True,
ask Nick Nurse. He'll be out here. Joe Mizula will
not be the coach there in three years for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, and.
Speaker 12 (13:18):
Maybe our very last pie and Jason Tatum did a
clean up on Aisle five. You know, he's uncritiquable until
they don't advance to the finals next year. I look
at guys like Holiday and Horford that these are kind
of like on the cusp of being in the Hall
of Fame someday. Guys who are really borderline, it's not
an offensive statement to say they're borderline. But Drew Holliday
(13:38):
two All Star appearances, you know, career average of sixteen points.
He may have snuck a ticket to the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
that that that's for the life.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, it's easier to get into the basketball Hall
of Fame than it is like the football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Certainly the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
They're they're more lenient and they're inclusive of what you
did with them or international play. I would say Tatum though,
because now you can validate, you can put that, you
can rubber stamp. Now you're one of the great Celtics
of all time. Gotta win titles. Gotta win titles, at
least a title like Paul Pierce. If he doesn't win
(14:16):
a title, then Paul Pierce is just a great score.
He won a title, then all of a sudden, it's different, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
Yeah, I'm also go with Tatum. He's now in that
Giannis in Joker category where he won a title with
the team he was drafted by, which means a whole lot.
And now he's kind of on scholarship for a while
because look this whole dynasty talk. Relax because now we're
on year seven of Tatum and Brown. Told you they're
life young. They are like midlife crisis NBA, NBA.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't know if it's that.
Speaker 11 (14:48):
They definitely were at the you guys better do this quick.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
This year.
Speaker 10 (14:52):
Yeah, this year was a pivotal year for that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Kyrie is the one who is relatively young in life
but old in basketball because he came in at what nineteen,
Now he's thirty two. Now he's you know, he's mister Miyagi.
You know, he's got all this wisdom. Yeah, which I
had a jumper. Yeah, oh mister Miyagi could play. Yeah,
good handle, great hands. Wax On wax off. Absolutely. But Kyrie,
(15:19):
you know, Kyrie, I think has got perspective now of
what happened and his role in that. He said, look,
he didn't embrace the Celtics. He didn't embrace Lebron Brooklyn
was terrible. He knows that. You know, the days are
running out. He had this to say about Luca after
the game. Did JB win finals?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
MVP?
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Yeah that was that was big time to see that
trophy in his hands. I think him and JT should
have split it. But you know, those two guys in particular,
have you know, almost been like students and as well
now becoming teachers in their own rights. So to see
them and accomplish that, I'm really proud, you know, and also
extremely motivated to get back to this position in the
next few years.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, my bad.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
He was talking about Tatum and Brown is former teammates
there and these guys, you know, six seven years into
their career and they're twenty six, twenty seven years of age.
You still got a window of opportunity here. And I
don't think the.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
East is great.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Let's say Paul George goes to the Sixers, all right,
now you got my attention. Are the Knicks going to
be able to be the Knicks that we saw in
the postseason, just healthier? What about the Bucks? What about
the heat? Is there an outlier there? But if I'm Boston,
I'm like, I'm good. Nobody scares me here, at least
not yet. Now you've got a chance to be in
(16:36):
the Eastern Conference finals, maybe another NBA finals, And I
don't know if you can pencil in Denver because of
what happened. Can I pencil in Dallas, Can I pencil
in Oklahoma City? Houston's going to be, you know, a
team on the climb. So you probably got five or
six teams that are legitimately title contenders or at least
(16:59):
they can get to the NBA Finals in the West.
In the East, it feels like it's Boston, and then
we take a step back. I don't even know if
there's a second team. I think you got to go
down to number three before you go. Okay, they got
a chance, but you do have the hangover all the time,
and then you're gonna get players who want to get paid.
Maybe they end up with other teams, you know, because
Denver had that problem. They lost some players, and to me,
(17:21):
that was a big difference. You know, when you lose
Bruce Brown, like you lost a really valuable player, and
that happens sometimes. But I think what we saw very
impressive with Dallas. They were the best team during the
regular season and they showed that during the postseason.
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Speaker 2 (18:18):
Final hour in this Wednesday, we'll talk to Arkansas head
coach John Calipari. Sounds weird to say that. Also, Jamal Crawford,
Turner's Sports will join us. He's been working out Victor Weimbanyama.
I was surprised at that. Marvin Goes. I got some
social media pictures where Jamal Crawford's working out with the Victor.
(18:39):
I go, let's get him on the show, so he'll
join us. Coming up here in a little bit. Celtics
prede is set for Friday. We'll have a game six
Friday in the Stanley Cup Final, the Oilers over the
Panthers five to three, and the passing of the Giants
Hall of Famer Willie Mays at the age of ninety three.
It's strange to say somebody is far greater than legendary,
(19:01):
And to me, Willie Mays was not legendary. He was iconic.
And there's a difference in that. There's certain athletes in
certain sports. You can have a legendary career or you
can have an iconic career. And Willie Mays, as we've
talked about throughout the show, had an iconic career. It
wasn't just he was a spectacular baseball player. He was
bigger than just being a great baseball player. And he
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came in four years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier.
Willie did get some exposure in New York with the
New York Giants and then went to San Francisco and
played in that god awful Candlestick Park, Windy Candlestick Park.
Once again, greatest centerfielder ever, And you factor in the
wins and Candlestick and he was still the greatest center
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mbusa dot com slash special offers. He is the new
head coach at Arkansas. It sounds weird. Does it sound
weird to you? Or do you pass now that you're
the Arkansas head coach? You're You're fine with it sounds
sounds comfortable.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
No, it's comfortable. Look here's I've been at different jobs,
you know. I was at UMass eight years, Memphis nine years,
fifteen years at Kentucky it's dog years now, and I
loved it.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And it was a great run.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
We helped a lot of families, won a lot of games,
won a lot of league championships, final fours, Elite eights,
national Titleswitch, I mean they needed to hear another voice.
I wasn't planning on this, but when it came along,
kind of like being a DESPN and then other opportunities
come along and you say, wait a minute, I got
to take advance this now.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Let me look.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And over a two or three day period, I'm like,
they're in the sec.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Two. They got great facilities.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
They have a great fan base, a great building that
seats twenty thousand, great home court, pretty good support as
you would know in this corner of Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
The what's here?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And then lastly, I got to hire my son. No,
he's not one of my top three guys, but he's in.
He's on court. He can go out and recruit a
little bit and get started. And so a lot of
good reasons, and I'm excited about it. Let me help
another thirty forty families. Then I'll go into doing a podcast.
How about we do that?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But did you did you jump before you were pushed?
Can can we be fair about the situation at Kentucky?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I don't think that was the case. But and again,
it had nothing to do with fans. Fans to a
nick game and they're playing bad. What are they doing
in the second quarter?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
They're doing?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I mean, fans are fans, Kentucky fans are engaged. They
were exactly what you want in a fan until you
lose a game you're not supposed to lose, and they're
still engaged. So it had nothing to do with that.
For me to do what I'm doing, I needed that tailwind. No, headwinds.
We needed to be able to move in what we
(22:26):
were doing. And you know, as far as saying, well
they pushed you out, No, I don't think that was
the case.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But again, let.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
It be good for both. I mean, I had fifteen
great years there. Let Mark Popev fifteen great years. Let
me finish how I want to finish. Let me build
another program, Let's win another national championship, Let's help another
twenty five families.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Let me let me do this and you can.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
You and I've been when you didn't have gray hair,
but you we've been doing this a long time. And
whether I was at UMass, you and I you came
in and miss jump shots, whether I was at Memphis
and we were doing this in Kentucky over the years,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
When I was with the Nets, did we do anything? Yes,
Oh we did. Yeah, it was after I got fired.
Tell me, how do you feel now?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think I ask you why Kerry Kittles and not
Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah you did that. You've did that for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Okay, how does Arkansas know you're available? If you're happy
at Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
A good friend of mine, John Tyson, and I've been
friends for twenty years. Tyson Chicken, Yeah, twenty years, twenty
five years. Maybe tried to get me to take the
job when I was in Memphis in two thousand and seven. Maybe,
And at that time then if I left, I left
(24:04):
players like they were there and my assistant wasn't going
to get the job.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I wasn't comfortable just leaving.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
And that was Derrick Rose, Antonio Anderson, Chris Douglas, Robert
Robert Dozer, Joey Dorsey. I can go on the guys
that I would have left. So he calls me on
a Thursday night. I'm at the Final four and he said, cow,
it's Johnny and I said what's up? And he said
(24:33):
I need you to meet with the AD And I
said what ad. They said, our a d at Arkansas.
And I said, okay, what are we meeting about. Well,
he wants to talk to you about candidates and the
job and what he's trying to do, and why don't
you meet with him? I said, okay, but I'm leaving
town at one o'clock on Friday, so we got to
(24:55):
meet at eleven eleven thirty and I'll give him an hour. Well,
in the conversation, you can imagine. If you think this
is such a great job, why not you? And he said,
give me fifteen minutes to talk about you. And then
I looked at my watch and I said, I got
to go. I got a guy downstairs who I'm flying with,
and I got to get down there. And he said, well,
(25:19):
I'm not going to do anything till you tell me now.
And then we spent two days and I'll give you
the conversation that change me. Kelvin Sampson and I've been
friends for a long long time. I called Calvin to
check on Hunter, the ad who had been at Houston
(25:40):
with him.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, he went crazy. I love him, He's the best.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
He says, he's at okay, okay, but I'm having a
hard time because I'm going to end up leaving players.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And Calvin went crazy, what if you leave?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
They can leave, they can go where they want, they
can go with you, they can go. Oh what are
you talking about? This isn't ten years ago? And then
he said the one that got me.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And if you stay, they can leave, they.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Can go somewhere else, they can go pro This is different.
And you know what, that got me to think in
a different way, and within thirty six hours, I said,
you know what, I want this new challenge. I want
to help a bunch of families. I want to bring
something to that state and that program that explodes the state,
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and let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Let's go do this.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Okay, you're recruiting philosophy at Kentucky was well known. Your
recruiting philosophy at Arkansas is going to be what.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I can't take seven freshmen until these rules change. Last
year our team was average age was nineteen four. The
team we played against and teams we played against were
twenty four twenty three. We played against twenty six year olds,
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so that's nineteen as a freshman. He's twenty six. So
I am still going to recruit the best freshmen, probably
take three or four, not seven. I can't take that many.
You would hope a couple kids will stay and I'll
bring in a couple transfers that are a little bit older.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I don't want to have twelve guys.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
You know who I'm doing this like back in the day,
a guy named Coach Smith, Dean Smith back in the
day recruited for ten, eleven, and twelve recruited specifically for
that spot.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Now there may be injuries.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
The guy may be better than everybody thought, he may
beat somebody out, but he's being recruited for ten eleven
and twelve. I want eight or nine guys on scholarship,
nil all that, and then I want ten eleven twelve.
We got nine on scholarship. We're adding ten eleven twelve
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and they'll be good players, but they're not going to be.
But it doesn't mean they can't beat somebody out. It's
just I'm doing it kind of like North Carolina in
the seven Should I say seventy five eighty eight? Well,
he was there till ninety he was doing it most
of his career.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, he's the Arkansas head coach John Caliperry.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Can I have your Kentucky admit? You have to say
that now because they don't have anyone who I am.
I know Arkansas head coach. He used to coach at Kentucky.
Let me tell everybody, I'm here with Dan Patrick. You
may not know him, but you're here with Dan Patty.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
We're both Hall of Famers coach, We're both we're both
Hall of famers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
All right? Can I have your Kentucky gear? It's gone already?
Wait yard sale. Uh come on, tag sail. Well, it
was in Mass. I sold, I sold it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I just threw it in my house on my bed
on couches, and all my friends and their kids came
over and take what you want. The best items were
the Kentucky shoes that had UK on them.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Gone. Gave a great there. Come on, I could have
put in the man cave.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
No, no, no, I got it's gone. It's it's uh.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Why don't you help my family? You're always talking about
helping others other families. What about mine? Why don't you
help my family?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Helped you?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, I paid you to come to U Mass, and
so I put I put on an aerial display, and
your you just can't acknowledge it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's okay, Clark Kellogg was there. Clark Kellogg is a
religious man who never lies, and he'll tell you the
truth what happened that day. Okay, So go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. Mock me goes living in denial, living in denial. Yeah,
that's what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
When Dan Hurley is entertaining the Lakers and vice versa,
your thought was.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I really like Danny, so I wanted what he wanted
for he and his family. But he's in an unbelievable
spot and he has a chance to keep that going.
The only thing I thought that maybe play a part
(30:34):
is in college basketball, at the end of every year,
every kid is a free agent.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
This is like being an NBA coach. Your season ends,
you don't have anybody in the contract. They're all able
to go and go and do what they want and
then the nil knowing how that's playing out, and Danny,
I know, And it was funny because Danny said, man
quit wine.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
And we're all making all the money. I'm more where.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I'm fine here at Arkansas. But what if I were
at UMass. What if Danny was still at Rhode Island,
He'd be saying that like to get guys to stay.
So that would have been the only reason that I
thought he would say, you know what, I don't want
to deal with this. Some guys have retired. I'm just
(31:22):
trying to be the best at this situation. The playpen
we're in, how do we have the best toys?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I mean, that's.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
It isn't what I'd want, more guardrails, you know, I
want kids to make money.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
You know high that is.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
But it's like, okay, let's get it organized. Let's get organized,
let's get guardrails. Let's figure out how this we don't
hurt kids by what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I wonder if we can get to a point
where you sign a two year deal to go to
college and can can can we do something that like
nil deals that your contract is for two years? Or
is there any give me a solution. You know you're saying,
let's solve it. Give me a solution.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
First of all, I've been saying for five years.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Now you're putting up ten fingers. That's ten. There you go,
that's fine. That's five.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Five Pittsburgh five years to play, Yins, five years to
play four, five years to play four, which is the way.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It was when you played back in the forties.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I mean you had five years to play for If
you got injured, you got an extra year. If you
got red shirted, you got an extra year. What if
you got hurt three different years? Buzzard luck, my man.
I don't know what to tell you. This is amateur
basketball right now. They just cleared Danca a player to
play football for his ninth year. So I'm playing in
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a game last year where the guy making the shots
is twenty six years old, should have been out of
school three years maybe four.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So let's get back. We can do that now. They said, well,
COVID and all stop. You're giving waivers to everybody five
years to play four solved sixty seventy percent of our problems.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know what would have solved a problem is somebody
guarded that guy during the.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Tray that truth.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Made flow shots and all that. Yeah, just like he
let's not go back to that because I'm still sick
over CoA.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
She's all way.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I told Hunter the aad here. You know, I'm still
hacked off over that game, he said. And I'm not happy.
He said, well, I'm happy. I'm happy it happened. Yeah,
you know so, but anyway, there's people look at Oakland's
happy it happened.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah. It's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
If you stay at the same school four years, you
get a fifth year.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
So now it rewards that. The guys that say, I'm deciding.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Okay, if that kid at Oakland still had another year
of eligibility, would you reach out to him to add
him to Arkansas?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I wouldn't do that to my good friend.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Oh you know, I'm not reaching out and doing that, Okay,
But he look. And I don't begrudge a kid to
take advantage of the rules. He should have been playing
because he was allowed to play.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
But it wasn't just him.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
There were by the way, he was twenty four. Coach,
you said twenty six.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
So who's in your ear? Because you wouldn't. I just
googled it, so Jack, Yeah, yeah, okay, But again shooters,
no shooters. So that's why you didn't know him. That's
why you did not know him, Like who's hey, who's
that guy out there? I wouldn't say you just so
you know. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
If they came to me and said I need you
to take a look at him, I already have, and
don't tell me to look more at him. I understand.
I saw him shoot three airballs, and you were telling
me he's a shoot.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Once again, that's lying. See now, anything you say, I
have to go, he's he lies. He lied about the
guy at Oakland Jack, who's twenty four, not twenty six. See,
once again, these things hurt you. I'm trying to help
your credibility. Here, tell the truth, free your mind and
the resk I'll follows.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I had to help me, that's why. But the other
side of it with the nil, I don't know now
that they've gone to where they are, how do you
reel it back in. I don't have the answer. How
do you say, well, we're not going to do as much,
or you got to sign a two year deal. I
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don't have that answer, but I do know five to
play fours the first and it's a solution that you
can do.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Did you change your number?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Because I was on vacation in Italy and I say,
I leave the country and you leave Kentucky and then
I never hear from you.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Did you change your number? Did you go big time?
I wouldn't have called you, but no, I didn't. You
didn't respond to me. You could have texted me. Oh
I didn't see you. Did Kentucky keep the phone? No,
it's my phone. Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I got my own phone. I got my own email.
I don't have a computer, but I got my own.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Would have been nice, though, on vacation, took time out
to say hey, I was I was there scouting?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah right, yeah, trying to where did you vacation in Italy?
I was Poolia. We're it's in the middle, Yeah, it's
in the middle. Family.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I'm an Italian citizen too. By the way, I'm a
dual citizen. I got a passport, all the stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I'm trying to get that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
My wife is Italian, so I'm trying to trying to
get Maybe you could help me on. This is where
you help out a family.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, I'm not. No, it's too hard and I'm not
I've done one time it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh, let's get Mark Pope on talking to somebody's gonna
go a little further this year?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Who goes further this year? Arkansas or Kentucky in the tournament? Here,
we're out of time. We're out of time. Thank you, coach,
always great to talk to you. Thanks guys, Dan always good.
Pank your hair a little bit. You're looking good.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Thank you, Thank you. You're still doing it. Yeah, looking good.
So he's got to look younger. Gotta look younger.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You guys are like a comedy trip over there.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Did the trip and then I'll look like coach cow.
Let's take a break here. Jamal Crawford is going to
join us coming up next? What's he doing with Victor Wembenyama?
And is JJ Reddick the right coach for the Lakers?
And he's portrayed in the series clipped on the La Clippers.
What's it like to watch a show where somebody's playing you?
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So we'll talk to Jamal Crawford next year on The
Dan Patrick Show.
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The big headline is the Lakers finally hired JJ Reddick.
It's a four year deal. We'll talk about that also.
The assistant coaches that fascinates me a whole lot more.
We'll talk about that strategy coming up. Celtics Parade later today,
and tonight it's the Panthers at the Oilers Gain six.
I want to go back to May twenty fifth of
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twenty twenty three, had JJ Reddick on and we were
talking about a variety of things, and I ask him
this question, where did this come from wanting to maybe
be a head coach?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
Well, I mean you certainly you certainly missed the competitive
side of professional basketball when you retire, and that's probably
the biggest hitch. I'm loving what I'm doing right now,
and I'm in a very fortunate situation that I can
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kind of wait and just see if there's anything that
materializes that's sort of a perfect fit. You know, I've
talked with teams now going on a year about assistant jobs,
and I'm interested in being a head coach. I don't
have to start as the head coach. I don't have
to start a new assistant. It doesn't matter to me.
It's more just about the fit and the people that are,
(40:16):
you know, at the organization.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So that's May twenty fifth of twenty twenty three, so
a little more than a year ago. He started flirting
with teams and vice versa. Then he had a podcast,
Then he became the lead analyst for the Mothership with
their coverage of the NBA. Jeff Van Gundy got kicked
to the curb, Mark Jackson got kicked to the curb.
Doris Burke and JJ came in. Then all of a sudden,
(40:40):
there was an exchange on first Take between JJ Reddick
and Steven A. Smith where JJ Reddick pointed out, do
people really want to be taught basketball? And he gave
a couple of things. He had a couple of references.
One was Zion Williamson and what he's doing with the
Pelicans the last twenty games playing point forward, and he
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said he got, you know, twenty thousand views. And then
there was another part where he criticized Doc Rivers with
the Milwaukee Bucks, and that got millions of views. So
his point was with Steven A, does anybody really care
about being taught basketball? And maybe maybe Lebron is listening
to that and going, wow, Okay, that guy is. He
(41:24):
knows basketball, he's sharp, and he's telling us things. And
then all of a sudden they start to do a podcast.
Now is it a coincidence that they started to do
a podcast after that? The fact that he then became
a candidate for the Lakers job was supposed to be
his job, and then all of a sudden, wait a minute,
Dan Hurley could be interested in the Lakers. Okay, forget
(41:46):
about JJ Reddick. Let's go all in on Dan Hurley.
And then all of a sudden, Dan Hurley said, no,
I'm standing to Connecticut. Let's go back in on JJ Reddick.
And it felt like it was always his job to lose,
and then he lost it and then he got it back.
But I'm curious who JJ Reddick is going to surround
himself with because when we talk about experience, we use
that a lot, and it's prevalent throughout the interviewing process.
(42:09):
When you're going to hire a head coach. Dan Campbell,
Lions head coach, had never even been a coordinator and
he got the job as the Lions head coach. Now
they hired a lot of veteran coordinators to help him.
Now that's what you need to do. Dean Sanders had
never been a coach at a Power five school before
going to Colorado. They had great recruiting, also a veteran
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coaching staff. He got somebody from the Alabama coaching staff
and primeterm turned one of the worst teams in college
football into a respectable team in one season. So the
Lakers are looking for that similar leap, that similar amount
of success first year with JJ Redick. It's a four
year deal, which means if he survives the four years,
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he's probably going to be coaching Anthony Davis and not
lebron James.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
What did they do with Brownie?
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I was told yesterday, Now it's more likely that they're
taking Bronnie James, as if there was much doubt there,
but now it looks like you're going to be taking
Bronnie James, and you're going to surround yourself with maybe
Sam Cassell, who was a head coaching candidate here, maybe
Stan Van Gundy would be a guy you add to
your roster. I also thought it was interesting ironic that
(43:26):
the reason why Jeff van Gundy, at least one of
the reasons why he was let go by ESPN as
their analyst, was they were worried he was going to
take another head coaching job.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, he didn't take one, and he.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Was an assistant coach or he was a consultant with
the Celtics. Now he's an assistant coach with the Clippers.
But here's JJ Reddick taking the job less than a
year later. He's a head coach in the NBA. But
I want to know who he surrounds himself with because
JJ feels like the CEO. He's very knowledgeable. Everybody can
talk talk about that. He walks in. He looks like
(44:02):
he's playing the role in a movie of you're the
Lakers head coach. Now you have somebody you can put
out in front of the media. It goes back to
what I said yesterday that job is sort of the
cowboys job of the NBA. Everything is under the microscope everything,
and you got Lebron in there as well. So JJ
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has to be able to filter out all of the naysayers,
the criticism. It's gonna be there's gonna be so much
gossip here. There's gonna be like, I'm here, Oh what
about the other players?
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Is he showing up? You know, preferential treatment to Lebron?
Do you continue your podcast with Lebron? Like that's a
big question, mark. Can you continue a podcast with Lebron
while coaching the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Now?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
While it would be great TV, great podcasting, great content,
if I'm the Lakers, I don't want my head coach
with his hat backwards, it's talking to Lebron.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
James. You got a job to do.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Entertain people by putting an entertaining product out on the floor,
not with your podcast.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't know what's in the language of the contract,
but that's what I would say. No, we want you
to be the head coach of the Lakers. I don't
need you to do it. It's like Doug Gottlieb is
coaching Wisconsin Green Bay Stevens Point while doing his radio show.
That's different. He can use that for publicity for his program.
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He'll need that publicity for his program, you know, putting
them on the map, He's already gotten publicity. The Lakers
don't need publicity, they don't need to have him do
this so they can have more people interested in the Lakers.
JJ Reddicks, who just coach the Lakers, be the CEO
of the Lakers. Now you bring in some really good
assistant coaches. Jared Dudley who's with the MAVs. He's somebody
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that they're going to try to bring in. Sam Cassell
with the Celtics, they're going to try to bring him in.
That's the important part of all of this to me,
because I need somebody who can coach or at least direct.
And then I had the underlings, the assistant coaches, who
are going to be able to do this day to day.
They're going to be doing the day to day process here.
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So and if I'm JJ Reddick, I'm not threatened by
these guys who might be there waiting to take my job.
If we win, then if I'm JJ Reddick, I win.
If we don't win, then I'm going to be vulnerable
no matter what. But if you bring in good assistant
coaches and you surround him, then I think you got
at least a head start here. It doesn't mean they're
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going to be good. I mean if you said, what
job would you take? Cleveland, Detroit or the Lakers. If
I'm JJ Reddick, I would have taken Detroit or Cleveland.
But it's because I have a chance to just be
a coach, not a thing like he's got to go
in there, he's got to be something like Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
You just coach Detroit. You just coach.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And you know his former teammate, Trajan Langdon, former Dukie,
is now running the Pistons.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
You fire Manti Williams.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I sent a note to the Danetz yesterday saying, how
is this possible? You got a guy who has five
more years, sixty five million dollars, and you surprise him,
blindside him, you rush in and fire him. And it's
a fellow Dukie, And here's JJ Reddick. And we keep
waiting for the Lakers. Are they going to sign this guy?
And then all of a sudden, I'm thinking, is JJ
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Reddick got cold feet? Here going well, I don't know,
wait a minute, here, maybe maybe the Pistons, you know,
a terrible team. I can go in and I can
learn how to coach. He has to be ready to
coach when you coach the Lakers. Now I get it.
You win then all of a sudden, you know your
legacy is firmly cemented. Well, not necessarily because you know,
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Frank Vogel won a title for him. I don't think
there's any statue. Is there a statue for Frank Vogel? Yeah,
checking it's probably in Orlando that they built it right
outside the But this is a legacy play as well.
You're coaching the Lakers. This is why Dan Hurley was
interested because JJ Reddick gave up a job that he
could do for the next ten years, be the analyst
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and all the NBA. It's a great gig, but it's
not as exciting as being on the floor being the
head coach, being the Laker head coach coaching Lebron.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yes see, I know that sometimes.
Speaker 11 (48:29):
I think like for us sitting here, you're like, man,
you're calling all the games. Is a great gig, like
sitting on this side of things. But if you're a
former player, you're like, well, I'll do that. I guess, yeah,
I'll do that.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
But I'd rather be coaching.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's exciting when I would go, you know, we take
the NBA show to the Western Conference Finals of the
NBA Finals, and like you're on the floor. Well, if
I'm a former player, I'm on the floor. But I
don't like just being on the floor. I want to
be on the floor doing something like coaching. And JJ
had a long, long career and played for a lot
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of different teams, a lot of different coaches, and you know,
obviously has coach K on speed dial if he wants
to talk to his former coach. There, Duke gets some ideas, thoughts,
and it's and it's winning the locker room too. It's
not just hey, you got a coach and you got
to win. Got to make sure everybody's happy as well. Wait, see,
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given preferential treatment to Lebron, you know how's AD feel
about this? What about the other player? He's got to
develop the roster. That's the key, Like you can plug
in Lebron. You know, twenty seven, seven and seven, Ad
is gonna if he plays, you know, more than seventy
five games again, and he gives you whatever, twenty six
(49:46):
twelve and you know, four three blocks.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Now it's the other guys that I'm worried about, because
that's where your success or your failure is going to
be a lot of teams that have two really good
players it's the player around them that make them a
playoff team, make them a title threat, and that's I
think that's the biggest thing that JJ Reddick's going to
have to do.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Win the locker room. And also, you know in game.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Changes, you know that that that they didn't they weren't
able to adapt in game That was the big knock
on Darbenham. You know, can you can you change something?
What are you doing? What's different here? Now he has
to do that as well. That's where you get people's attention, like, hey,
they're doing this, we're going to do this. Then all
of a sudden it's successful and you're going, all right,
I'm gonna listen to that guy.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yes, Mark, what.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
Should be the Lakers realistic goal for next season?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Not to play in the play in game? How about
we solidify a playoff spot. How about your the fifth seed?
Fourth seed? I think that would be a fair goal.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Second round of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yes, yes, Now that's not going to be the expectations.
It's going to be greater than that, because you're going
to go, all right, are welast year's team or we
the team the previous year when we went to the
Western Conference finals, you've got to figure out how good
you are and be realistic with that. And if this
is a four year deal, what is the plan, because
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you got to have a Lebron plan and then a
post Lebron plan, and I think that will be interesting.
And it feels like, you know, these coaches only last
two years there. If JJ Reddick lasts three years or more,
then he's solved Lebron ad and he's built something there
and there's a culture that's there. But this isn't easy.
(51:37):
This isn't easy at all. And I know it sounds
crazy to say I'd rather coach Cleveland or Detroit. It's
because it allows me to kind of go in and
learn on the job with a younger roster. Now Cleveland
is a playoff team. Detroit is a bad team. But
you get to go in and now we're together. We're
going to figure this out together and we're going to
become something. And it's not like Detroit's not a legacy.
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I mean, they've had great teams. But that's what I
thought that maybe he would go to Detroit or maybe
he was having second thoughts. But as soon as I
said that, I think PAULI sent me a note Yeah,
Wog just said that DJ Reddick assigned a four year
deal with the Lakers. I'm like, I'm so fired up.
I'm like, I'm so ahead of this. He's going to
go to Detroit
Speaker 3 (52:20):
And then he's going to the Lakers.
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