June 24, 2024 • 47 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, Senior NFL Films producer Greg Cosell discussed the issues he's seen with Trevor Lawrence, NHL Network analyst Jason Demer broke down the highly anticipated Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final between the Oilers and Panthers, and co-host of "The Big Show with Rusic and Rose" Matt Rose stopped by to explain why despite it being over 30 years since a Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup, he is not cheering for the Edmonton Oilers tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You guys are awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I asking you deliver in terms of who you're rooting
for tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Just checking out the social media.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hit us up at DP show on Twitter at Ross Tucker,
NFL also want to talk to you on the phone
lines at eight seven seven to three DP show in particular,
by the way, if you're a Canadian listener but you're
not an Edmonton we want to talk to non Edmonton,
non Edmonton's and Alberta right, non Alberta.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Canadian callers.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Or if you're a true original, diehard Panthers fan and
you can prove it, we want to hear from you.
I'm actually surprised looking at my social media, looking at
Twitter or x whatever we're calling it. Thomas c k says,
I'm cheering for the Panthers because of Bob. Former flyer
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net My Chas Moseby says, not an Oiler fan, just
don't want to see Canada take the cup back.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
USA hockey is do or die.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Scott Hurd because I'm a San Jose Sharks fan, but
I'm rooting for Panthers because the new captain America in
Matthew Chacook and The Dan Lebotard Show.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Today might be their last show.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Zach Polvino says, a lot of Buffalo Sabers fans rooting
for Florida night, a lot of former Sabers players on
Florida's roster, so evidently there are reasons to be rooting
for the Panthers tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Not me, man, I am all in on the Oilers.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
In fact, if I was like a crazy rich guy,
which I'm not, this would be the type of night
that if the Oilers won, I want to like hop
on the private jet and go to Edmonton for the
next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Can you even imagine what it's going to be up
like up there the next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
There's no way people have to work tomorrow at Edmonton
if they win tonight, right, I mean they even make
They're so nice up there. They don't make you call
in stick right like I understand, Fritzy, Do you have
a Canadian accent?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah? Not really, That's the best I can give you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Again, Eh, we're going in? Eh? Is that Minnesota? I
don't even know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
They're related, There's like there's a little bit of relation there,
all right, so let's talk.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Here's why.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I've seen multiple people say that this is the biggest
Stanley Cup Final game ever.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Now that sounds like hyperbole. Let me give you some numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's the first time a team has come back from
three to zero to force a game seven since nineteen
forty five. We all know that no Canadian team has
won the Cup in thirty one years, and there hasn't
even been a game seven period since twenty nineteen. You
(03:08):
combine those three numbers, I think you can make an
argument that this is the most important, most impactful Stanley
Cup Final.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
By the way, I'm going to combine those three right there.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think I think I want to make that Marvin
and Paul, I think I want to make that the
stat of the day. Those three things combined.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Stat of the day, stat of the day, that beast
stat of the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Here comes that what stat of the day?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
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the official Trading Cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I mean,
does anybody want to argue, maybe on social media, maybe
you give us a call. Anyone want to argue that
they can think of a more important Stanley Cup final
game right now, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I think if I were a hockey true, I may
say a certain matchup of a great classic hockey franchises
would be a better.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Stanley Cup final.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
But if the Oilers win, this becomes sports historical, where
again they'll be treated differently than a normal Stanley Cup win.
It won't be treated It'll be compared to the Red
Sox and four, It'll be compared to, you know, the
great twenty eight to three Patriots versus the Falcons. It'll
be compared to those type of comebacks, which makes it
gives it more legs going.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Forward, which is a whole other thing.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Is it a comeback or a collapse? It's always a
combination of both. But tonight's game will determine I feel
like whether or not we frame it more as a
comeback or more as a collapse.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
Marv, you know what the nineteen ninety four Stanley Cup
Final Game seven, the Rangers versus the Canucks, Messia guaranteed
that they'd win Game seven, and up until that point,
the Rangers hadn't won a title in like fifty plus years.
And I only remember that because I was a kid
living here in Connecticut and.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It was a really big deal. That was a huge deal.
Speaker 9 (05:00):
The Rangers and the Knicks were both in the finals
in ninety four and so it was everywhere. So I
remember that specifically, But obviously I'm not a hockey guy either,
but just from personal experience, that was a big one too.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No question.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
The other thing is do you think because it's a
Game seven, it's more impactful than a one off? Meaning
is a Game seven a bigger deal than a Super.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Bowl or a Final four.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Basketball championship, college hoops or even like a World Cup
match is? Because they've been playing against each other for
six games already in a series, does that make the
game seven, the ultimate winner takes all a bigger deal
than if it's just two teams playing each other because
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they're both championship games.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
PAULI, Yeah, exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Like, if you compare this to the Patriots versus the Falcons,
imagine at the end of the third quarter, as the
Patriots are doing the comeback, they take a two day
break for us to anticipate the fourth quarter. We've had
since Friday, We've had the entire weekend to salivate for
this Monday night matchup.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
You get Game.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Seven, but you get days to prepare to tune in
and publicize it set.
Speaker 10 (06:10):
But I don't I don't know if I look at
it like that though, because imagine if in that Patriots
Falcons game, the Patriots had that comeback and that wasn't
Game seven, it was game one. It's like, okay, well,
good comeback.
Speaker 11 (06:23):
See again.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
Next time, we're gonna go to jump to game two
and then see what happens there, and then see what
happens game four. I think I think the one game
is much more, is much better than.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well so a game seven, though, has the build up
to get there, and it's like you accomplish something in
the series just to get it to three to three
game seven, and you've been building towards it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes see, isn't that what.
Speaker 10 (06:52):
You did the whole season in the whole playoffs too, Yeah,
build towards.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This one thing.
Speaker 10 (06:56):
Okay, you get to win tonight, not all right? Hey,
you know what those seven game series got. We could
still get back in this, you know what I mean.
It's like, I get that Game seven, you had to
each one three, but you just spent a whole season
and now a whole playoffs doing that is.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
One bigger than the other, or is it six and
one hand half dozen the other?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Fritzy, I think it's kind of six and one half
a dozan or the other. I understand Seam's point. I
totally agree. If someone had a great Game one or
Game five or whatever, it's not a deciding game. It's
not in sports lore anymore because that wasn't for the championship.
There's another If it's a tomorrow, it makes that game
not as special. So I and you're already forcing a
Game seven with the Super Bowls, and I think it
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has to be a deciding game. I know it's great
to have to build up in what happened in Game
two and this one got in a fight with this
one in game five, but you know it's.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Got to be a deciding game.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Paully, that could be debunked, though, I normally I think
Fritzy's totally right. Game seven is where you make history.
But if you go back to the eighty eight World Series,
the Dodgers versus the Oakland A's Kirk Gibson's home run
off Dennis Eckersley, that was game one.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, how about how about Mets Red Sox eighty six,
the Buckner game Game six.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
There's still another game, but they still had to play
game seven.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
If you ask someone casually, Kirk Gibson, Yeah, he hit
the walk off home run to win the World Series.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
That was game one.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But it's the most memorable play of that series, and
it happened in game one. But it's set the tone,
by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
The whole expression six in one hand, half dozen the other.
We're talking about eggs, right, What are we talking about there?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's what I always think it. Can it be anything?
Or is it eggs?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I guess you could probably put any item six of
one thing and half it does the other way.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They cancel each other out.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But can you can can anybody? Can any of us
hold six eggs in the hand? Is that pretty easy?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
We're doing that thing today.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know that I can hold six eggs in
my hand.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You have the biggest hands on the room, clearly.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't know that that's the case. First of all,
I have average hands. I'm out, we know that already.
I don't know that I'm far behind you there, Mark,
But I would just say someone came up with that
expression six and one hand, half dozen the other and nobody.
Not many people can actually get six eggs in their hands.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I think four would be the max in this room.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, and how do you get it without cracking the one?
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I remember remember Ben McDonald, the baseball pitcher. There was
like a I think he was on the cover of
Sports ullustrated. He could like hold six baseballs or something
crazy in his hand, that's how big his hand was. Again,
was not expecting to come up with this topic. But
I was expecting to go to Vicky who's in Boca
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at eight seven, seven to three DP show.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What's up? Vicky?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Please tell me you're a die hard, lifelong Panthers fan.
Speaker 12 (09:30):
Yes, good morning, Yes, absolutely original fan back in the
day when they were in it against the Avalanche. I
stood in line the original way you'd get tickets to
ticket Master, stood in line with my son in a
car seat, stood in line for the ticket, got the
two tickets the home game. You know, we got blown
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out of course, but I saw the cop It was awesome.
You know, here we are years later, but you know,
I got to say, you know, I got to think
that Scott, Melanie Vanbiesbrook, Joe Zanowski, those guys got to
be in the House tonight. You know, they got to
be saying, you know, you got to win it tonight,
and I think they're going to win it. I got
to be right behind them. There's so many people down
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here that are die hard just right along with me.
You know, we've been following them along last year, this year.
I mean, it's been great. It's been really fun to
just come along with them for the ride. And it's
been fun. And there's so many people, as you say,
coming back to the accent, there's so many people down
here from everywhere that you couldn't possibly capture one accent
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for the state of Florida. There's so many people even
from South America and Central America that you couldn't possibly
capture one accent for everything.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Oh, Vickie, I have a question for you real quick.
I'm going to keep you on here for a second.
We are all rooting for Edmonton because it's a better story,
because Canada hasn't had it in thirty one years the history.
Is there anything you can say to me, the dan Nets,
the five hundred radio stations, Peacock, everybody listening or watching
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right now, Is there anyway I want you to give
us your best pitch for why we should actually root
for the Florida Panthers instead of the Edmonton Oilers.
Speaker 12 (11:16):
Man, that's a tough one. I mean, you got it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You gotta get high stump, high stumped.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Go ahead, vicis if.
Speaker 12 (11:25):
This team plays hard and they play in your face,
you gotta have a lot of respect for a team
that's played really hard and in your face all season long.
And if they can follow that up tonight, then man,
you got to stand up and shake their hand and
go good game.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
All right, Vicky, thank you for the call on a.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Can I talk trying to say sail and scale on
a scale of one to ten, what would you grade
Vicky's sales job, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Yeah, she balked on that one even did the big setup.
You gave her a chance to think it through. She
could have just said, oh, I guess you guys don't
like America and drop the phone. She could have gone, oh, that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Would have been a good one.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
If you're gonna say, if you're gonna sell me on
the Panthers night, you have to you have to go
to national pride right like why you want Canada win?
Because it also does make it? Is it better or
worse for the NHL if Edmonton wins, Oh, better crosses over.
It crosses over for Dan. Yeah, but then you still
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have that every year you have that, can a Canadian
team win it? Whatever, Marv, I'm not feeling her sales
job there. No, I'm about to go with a three
three out.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Of ten Seaton.
Speaker 10 (12:41):
Yeah, maybe a four and a half.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, it's lower than that, because if you're ever selling
in life, if you're ever selling in life, you don't
start with Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I know.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
There's a lot of guys listening right now, better sales
guys and gals that they're driving their next account.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
They're driving for their next sale. Try this one. Walk
in there, like I gotta set a white wild what
are they called white?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Remember Chris buy the white wall tires? Yeah, coming there,
I got.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
The best mufflers, remember Chris Farley and Tommy Boyd?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Like, no, so good, it is so good.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Maybe somebody on you know, and even the people that
are saying on social media at DP show at Rostock
NFL that they're rooting for the Panthers, it's because like
there's former guys from their team that are on that
team now. You know the guy that said that you
know a lot of former Sabers or you know playoff Bob,
the goal used to be with the Flyers, which is interesting,
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by the way, I I, yes, I appreciate the loyalty
of those fans to the players that they used to
cheer for Paul, and.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Also, I think you could casually change who you're rooting
for if you're not invested in either of these teams.
When I was watching Patriots Falcons, I wanted the Falcons
to win that Super Bowl because it was original. The
Patriots had won a bunch, the Falcons never won. They
were winning, But once the Patriots were closing in on
a lead, I started wanting to see history. I wanted
to see them complete the comeback out of just sports history.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
No, okay, is that a sports history thing? Or is
it you're the producer of a three hour radio show
and you want to have a better topic the next day.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Very fair? That sounds selfish, it yes, it is.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
It's selfish.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
But I think if I was a casual fan, I
probably would have rooted more for the Falcons to hold
on to the lead. But once they gave it up,
You're like, oh my gosh, they're going to complete these acts.
You can dine out on it for years.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Court ball sounds like riffle ball. For the elite to
have tennis courts, it was like a park, and most
part it was a public park with three three like
bad green tennis courts.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's not elite Seaton.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Yeah, and it's like most of the parks that when
I grew up, nobody played tennis on them.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They were empty. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
Yeah, twenty four hours a day, and when you did
see somebody playing tennis, we'd be like, what are they
doing playing tennis?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's such a great point. They were always empty. All right,
I'm loving these calls. I'm loving these topics.
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Speaker 2 (16:48):
One of the true treasures in sports tonight, Game seven,
Winner take All Stanley Cup Final and the storylines are
just ridiculous. Thirty one years since a team from Canada
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has hoisted the Cup and we know how much they
love hockey. There's obviously a lot of other really good sports.
Over the weekend, we talked.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
About the soccer Scottie Scheffler, the Olympic Trials.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We also have the Aggies and the.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Volunteers in Game three for the National Championship College World
Series tonight. But I'm just telling you this is as
excite as I've been for a hockey game in a
long long time. I've heard people say, I've read people right,
read people right, yeah, that this is the biggest Stanley
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Cup Final game ever, biggest Stanley Cup Final game.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Of their lifetime. Let's talk about it with Jason.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Demarez does an excellent job, not only for NHL Network,
but had an incredible career. Exactly I think I have
this right. Exactly seven hundred games in the NHL, which
is very cool. He's played for the Panthers, his last
game was for the Oilers, and he is the man. Jason,
thanks so much for coming on the show. I really
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appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
What's going on Ross? How you doing? My maning?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Awesome? So exactly seven hundred That was that obviously by design?
Speaker 13 (18:27):
It was not, No, it was I ended up having
a pretty bad injury that kept me out for about
a year, and then I came back and Edmonton was
gracious enough to give me a tryout. I spent the
year in the minors, and then they gave me my
last game in the in San Jose where I started
my career, So it was incredible. I got to go
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out on my own sword and kind of choose the
way I wanted to end my career. What you know,
as athletes is so hard to do and we're not
always allowed that privilege. So for me, it was incredible
and I really do so grateful that I was given
that opportunity. So I have a little stock in both
teams right now, Panthers and Oilers, so it's it's tough
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for me to pick who I want to win.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, really, I want to get to that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And I'm curious your thoughts of what I've seen some
of your colleagues say about this being the most anticipated
end or the biggest Stanley Cup Final game ever or
in their lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Are you on board with that?
Speaker 11 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (19:30):
I just I do think especially this generation, and you
could even go back within this century, just because there's
so many incredible storylines, you know, the down three. There's
only two teams that have come back in the Stanley
Cup Finals. Both of them were nineteen forty five and
nineteen forty two, and only the Maple Leafs have done that.
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So typically when you're down three it's all but over.
They've managed to scratch and claw. You know, Connor McDavid's
having a historic year. It's you know, and you look
on the panther side, you know, Bobrovski was probably the
odds on favorite to win the con smythe and then
all of a sudden, Connor McDavid takes it from him.
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Paul Maurice, the head coach, hasn't won in his whole
career and this would be his second back to back
finals loss. So there's just so many incredible storylines and
obviously you touched on it. It's Canada, you know, it's Canada.
Speaker 11 (20:25):
This is our sport.
Speaker 13 (20:28):
It's been thirty years since there's been a Canadian team
to win Edmonton, forty years that they've won, so's it's
typically a sport that we should be winning every year.
And obviously the players that are within each organization are Canadian, American, European.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
So you know, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
But just to be in that building in game six
at Rogers' Place and to hear those fans how bad
they want it and the sound pales in comparison and
listen the Panthers Ammirant Bank. It's a great rink, really loud,
but it's nothing compared to Roger's Place in Canadian fans.
So it was just amazing to see. And they want
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this so bad, so it'd be great. I'd be happy
with either one. It's been a phenomenal series and it's
gonna be a barn burner tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So Jason, why do you think it's been thirty one years?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I mean, you are Canadian, You've played for Canadian teams
and teams in the States. Is there anything you can
put your finger on as to why none of the
Canadian teams have won it in so long?
Speaker 13 (21:32):
I mean, there's so many factors, like obviously the way
the organization has run, there's a lot of pressure in
Canada that potentially could hinder teams because media, as you know,
can be such a vacuum out there and they just
want the teams to win so bad and sometimes put
unwanted pressure in the players. And you know, honestly, I
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it's just one of those there's more American teams than
there is Canadian teams, so it really, you know, they're
kind of at odds but it for it to be
this long is pretty wild. So if we could see
this then pull this off, I mean not only a
historic comeback, but a historic comeback for a Canadian team
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being this long of a drought. I mean, there's something
poetic about it. So we're gonna we're gonna see what
they can do tonight. And obviously Connor Mcjesus McDavid is
going to have a big hand in that. So if
he could also get the points record for a single playoffs,
that would be pretty awesome as well. But it's like
I said, there's just so many different storylines at so
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many angles of this, and it being Canadian team first
time thirty years, I mean, it would be just so
such a beautiful ending to the season.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We're talking with.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Jason Demarez does a terrific job for NHL Network, covering
the entire league especially I guess I'm curious what happened Jason.
I filled in for Dan ten days ago. It was Friday,
June fourteenth, and it was three oh. The Panthers were
up and I said, you know what, They're not going
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to sweep him. I think the Oilers will get one.
I had Steve Levy on the show, I said, were
the Panther's just that much better? And he's like, yeah,
they are, Like they just have this well rounded team
and their goalie is better.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And how did it just flip like a switch like that.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
Well, you're obviously the Jinks. Well we figured that out.
I mean, no, it was wild. They were down three nothing.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
Chris Nablock comes out and says, you know, we still
have ten days of hockey left, and we're all.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
Sitting there like this guy's delusional.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
Like they're getting worked in every aspect of the game,
and you look at some of the underlying numbers and
they're actually out performing Florida for big chunks and they
kind of just found something in that room. They put
together in game near the end of game three, they
put together this Henry Brown' a Tsnmark line, and this
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line kind of just flipped the script and they got
started getting some great goaltending and it just seemed like
they game four, that building was rocking in Edmonton, and
it's like they just took that energy and they've just
been riding that for the last three games. And you
know how it is being a player momentum that people say,
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oh it's not a thing. It's it's game the game,
but momentum and confidence are different. But when you have
the confidence level higher than the other team, you're probably
gonna outperform them. And right now, it just seems like
the confidence for Edmonton is through the roof and they've
really caught Florida off guards. So they got to figure
something out soon Florida because the last game it just
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seemed like they've forgotten kind of how to play and
they're doing a lot of uncharacteristic things. So and usually
when I see that, being a former player and now commentating,
I'm like, well, when they're making the same mistake over
and over again, it's typically they're feeling the press.
Speaker 11 (25:00):
And their confidence levels are low.
Speaker 13 (25:02):
So that's a scary thought when you look at that,
because for huge parts of the season, this Florida teams
like the most consistent team and probably wire to wire,
one of the better teams in the league, if not
the best. So you think they're going to figure it out.
I do think they're going to have their best game
of the series tonight, but Edmonton is just on a
different level. So if they keep riding that momentum, I mean, again,
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it's just it's crazy to think, like, you know, I
was part of a reverse sweep. I unfortunately was the
guy that got reverse swept. And you never think it's
going to happen till it happens, and it's one of
the worst feelings, and the pressure gets so big and
inside that locker room and around because you're expected to win.
It's your up three nothing, it's you should win. Then
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you lose game four, you lose game five, and then
game six you're like, well, if we don't win this one,
the coin it's a coin flip and and everything's they're
coming downhill. So you got to think in that room,
there's a lot of doubt. And they got a twelve
those thoughts quick because otherwise it's going to be a
short night for them.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That is great stuff, Jason.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I'm curious, you know, with this being game seven, I'm
assuming this will be the best ratings for a hockey
game in a long, long time.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well, I was saying earlier in the show.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I've got tickets in the second row for the Hershey
Bears in the AHL That's where I live, and I
love It's a great the Giant Center in Central Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It's an awesome marinea. I love it, but I feel like.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
On some level TV doesn't do it justice to just
how fast you guys are flying around the ice. I
feel like, is there anything that could happen tonight or
anything that you have an idea that could help grow
the game even more from a television perspective.
Speaker 13 (26:54):
I mean, unless you're strapping a go pro to the
guys and many cameras, it's too hard. It's one of
the I always tell.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
People they should do that. Why not do that?
Speaker 11 (27:04):
It should just have cameras all over the place.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
And I mean you could maybe bring the camera closer
and have one of those, you know, on a wire,
kind of like the did in the NFL, where it's
just it's kind of traversing the whole rink. But I
don't know, it's it's one of those sports that you
know you need to be live just to feel it
and feel the energy. And I mean, listen, Connor McDavid's
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best player right now and maybe of all time, and
to watch him live is something special, just to just
to iso cam him. So I always tell people, if
you can get out to a game, that's always a
good way to kind of get you get you locked
in and and start. But it does it zero justice
on TV. It's a great product on TV. I love
what they do, but it's it's just a different animal
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when you're in person and one of those sports that
feel in the crowd and hearing the hits and the
boards and the puck hit the glass.
Speaker 11 (27:58):
It's just it's it's poetry.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Man.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
It's a great thing to watch and a great thing
to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait, did you say Connor McDavid might be the best
player of all time? I mean, you know, I knew
he's the best.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Player now, but we're talking like Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky,
Mario Lemieux.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Doesn't he need to win for us to make a
comment like that. He's really that good?
Speaker 13 (28:19):
Jason, He's I mean, I know I catch so much
flak for this, but and it could be recency biased,
but listen, he needs to win. He needs to put
it to have his name on a cup.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
But just.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
The level of the players now, the equipment that the technology, uh,
it's so much far advanced then it was back in
the day in years priors, and the Gretzkare and things
like that, and not to say that if you put
Gretzky and Lemieux in this era, whatuld they do as well?
Sure they'd probably they'd be up there. But for what
Connor is doing in this era and dominating this much,
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it just goes without saying, like, we haven't had a
player this dominant ever in such a long time. You
could say Sydney Crosby, but by winning, but just purely
on his own. He is just so talented and so incredible,
and I mean, what he's done in this playoff, in
this era, it just can't be denied. He's incredible. The
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things he does every game, it's it's I can't even
explain it. And we sit up there as analysts and
we played the game and I played against him and
felt what it was like to play against him, and
watching him every night in and night out. We just
sit up there every night we're like, this is a joke,
Like he's playing a video game and we're just we're
just players in this game, and he just does what
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he wants. So for him, I just I think right
now he's the best player in our game. I think
if he wins, I mean, he's in my top three already.
If he wins, I would probably, and he's still got,
you know, another eight to ten years, so I do
think he'll win again if he doesn't win tonight, and
by then, I mean it's hard to deny him. So
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I don't think records of Gretzky will be touched. But again,
he's shooting on guys that could even go down. The
butterfly wasn't even vented back then, which is when the
goalies go down in that little position, they just laid
down or kicked their legs out, So I mean it's
it was a little bit. I won't say it's easier
to score back then because the technology wasn't there, but
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it just was a different era of scoring and goaltenders
and defenders. So I do I kind of stand on
that that pedestal saying I do think Connor's up. He's
top three for me right now, and if he wins tonight,
I'd be hard not to say he's the greatest right
now and then given another eight to ten years.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jason, we showed a picture of your headshot. You got
no front teeth. Now I'm looking at you right now,
You've got a great smile, good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
How many of those are your own teeth.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
These four are not mine.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
They got fixed up and then parts of the couple
in the autumn. But uh yeah, I was sitting on
the dentist chair this offseason and getting these things fixed
and then I was like, well, I think I'm retired
because there's no way I'm letting these things get out.
I had enough of this, so I just said that's it.
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I called my wife and I was like, I think
I'm done. I was way too good now.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
So hockey hockey guys don't file retirement papers.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
They just send in their their dentist bill. Yeah, and
that's how that's how the league knows they're done.
Speaker 13 (31:32):
I said, I've submitted to insurance and I said, well,
I said, thanks, guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That is incredible, Jason, thanks so much the time man.
Check him out NHL Network and enjoy the game tonight.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
Thanks Ross iv A going on all right.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Absolutely, what awesome guy. That's one of the cool things
about the show. Was Number one, that Fritzy's incredible. But
I never talked to that guy before in my life.
Now I want to hang out with him.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He was it's so funny that he said that Connor McDavid,
it is like a video game, did I or did
I not say? On the pre show production, meaning that
Connor McDavid reminds me of me playing Sega Genna says NHL.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Ninety four back in when I was fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I mean that's what it reminded you that when he
has the puck and he's weaving in and out of guys,
you're not really supposed to do that other than on
the video game, and he's actually doing it.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
It's incredible, Marvin in every sport and even ones that
you don't know. So I saw a MESSI maybe twenty sixteen.
I don't know anything about soccer, but I knew he
was the best player, right, exact same thing with like
Connor McDavid, Like, I don't know anythink about hockey, but
after watching four about three or four minutes, Oh that's
the best player.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
How about you know we were talking about Usain Bolt
earlier and like how he's the fastest guy. You know,
that guy played seven hundred games in the NHL and
he's sitting up there with other NHL guys and they're
watching McDavid at being like this is a joke. This
is a joke that he's able to do whatever he
wants against guys.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It it is if you want. I mean, look, there's
a lot of reasons to watch tonight. That is a
big one.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I'm curious though about what he said, and we can
talk about this later. And I want to get to
some of the callers as well. Eight seven seven to
three DP show or maybe hit me up on social
at Ross Tucker NFL at DP show on Twitter or
whatever social platform. Is there anything they can do to
make the TV product? Why don't they put GoPros on
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the guy's helmets.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I mean, that feels like they could easily do that,
and then you'd have a better idea of just how
fast they're flying around the ice. Any ideas, Fritzy Seaton,
paul Y, Marvin, you got an idea?
Speaker 8 (33:43):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, put it on the stars.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Don't put it on the enforcers because you don't want
to see the fists coming at their faces during the show.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Why not? That's exactly what I want to see. But
you're talking, I'm not sure if the NHL does the
NHL want that. I don't think they even have that
many fights anymore. Doesn't seem to be not embracing the right.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
How about this, then, to implement cameras without messing with
the players. Put a camera on a referee and give
the fans a like an option, like a second screen
option to get the referees camera view.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I feel like they try that and it never like
it's just like so discombobulated. Jaunty, I feel like I
wanted on McDavid. Those cameras are so small.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Now, I want it on McDavid's helmet while he's weaving
in and out of these guys.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Let's make it more exciting to have a cameraman skating
on the ice amongst the action and just have his
head on a swim way.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Listen, if you've ever been to a live hockey game,
watching the refs is bananas. When they see the action
coming and they do that thing where they prop up
there butt, they prop up their butt on the side
of the window.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
So they don't get over Seaton especially I like too
when you see like a NHL ref get in the
middle of a fight and try and break it up
or whatever. And then you xtapose that to say the
NF official who just gets bumped slightly from behind and
they're like yellow flag comes out and you're like, dude,
come on, you know that. In the NFL, you know
the guy didn't mean to really hit you, you know
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what I mean. They're like the NFL refs are so
soft compared to the NHL one who gets right in
the middle of the fight.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
If you if you touch the ref in the NFL,
it's an automatic ejection. In the NHL, sometimes those guys
catching open hand when they like when they wipe their
face with the glove, like yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Because I was at Last Two days after I was
in Last Time for Dan, I went to Jason Kelsey's
charity golf tournament and I was talking with Eric Lindross
and John Leclair and I was telling them how I
always kind of wish I could have tried to be
a Goon defenceman. I think I could have been a
good Goon defenceman. Anyway, that's that's either here nor now.
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We got still a lot to get to. We got
what we learned today sports history. But let's find out
if the rest of Canada is rooting for the Oilers
or not. Matty Rose, the radio host up in Calgary,
well Joyce when we come back twenty minutes past the
hour here on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
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Speaker 3 (36:23):
The best American athletes look to punch their tickets to
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Speaker 2 (36:28):
The US Olympic team trials part of making Team USA.
We'll find out what the guys learned in about twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Here on the Dan Patrick Show, Ross Tucker, Meadhead, James
Vanderbeek filling in for Dan in the big chair. And
this is pretty cool because we wanted to get a
radio host on from Calgary because there's a big rivalry
with Calgary and.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Edmonton, and so they say, we got this guy.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Matt Rose, co host of The Big Show with Russick
and Rose on sports Net nine sixty in Calgary, the
radio home with they. I'm like, his name's Maddie. It's
George Russeck and Maddie Rose. I go on weekly during
the NFL season. No idea what he looked like, by
the way, until this second right now, and he looks
like he is straight out of Canadian radio host casting.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's unbelievable, Maddie. It's Ross Tucker. Nice to see you man.
Thanks for coming on my show for once, I guess
not really my show.
Speaker 14 (37:32):
Whatever, Yeah, well for today right, Yeah, that's how I
feel with George Leaves. It's it's all good.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
It's great to.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Talk to you man.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
It's been far too long. I'm excited for the NFL
to come back so we can start having you on
our show. But yeah, things are good. Thanks for having
me excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Are you in Calgary right now? Or are you in Okatokes?
Speaker 8 (37:51):
No Iami, Calgary? No Atlas today? No down in oak
Tot's getting our pizza.
Speaker 14 (37:56):
Downtown Calgary's where you'll find me today. I avoid all
these Oilers jerseys that are on the sidewalk there are there,
seriously keeps tons because a lot of people will move
from Edmonton down to Calgary just a few hours down
the road. You know, I'm obviously biased, but personally it's
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a better city. So people typically move from Edmonton down
to Calgary and not the other way.
Speaker 8 (38:22):
So yeah, we got a lot of.
Speaker 14 (38:23):
Edmonton fans around here wearing their jerseys very proudly.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
All right, So explain that it's a couple hours away.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Is it the only two cities in Alberta with NHL teams,
So I would say they probably hate each other, but
maybe not.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
You guys are just so nut. Do you guys hate anybody?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (38:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think we do.
Speaker 14 (38:46):
I think that there's a certain amount of like when
when someone new is coming into our country, you got
to treat them with respect. And we have this Canadian
identity that we have to uphold when we go abroad.
Speaker 8 (38:55):
But there are certainly very strong regional rivalries.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
People out here do not like Toronto and Eastern Canada
a whole time, and the Battle of Alberta is the
biggest sporting event that we have in our entire province.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
The whole country or the whole province gets together for it.
Speaker 14 (39:10):
When they played three to four games they'll play in
the regular season, when they played that playoff series a
couple of years ago, that both cities were just nuts.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Obviously that one didn't end well, to end too well
for the.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
Calgary fans, But yeah, it's one of those things that
kind of takes over our province for sure. Obviously Aki's
the big one up here, and those are the two
biggest teams that you'll see in these two demographics.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
We're talking with Matty Rose, co host of The Big
Show with Russik and Rose on Sportsnet nine to sixty
in Calgary. So you just got off the air, okay
a little bit ago, right, and I'm sure you took
a lot of calls and you're talking with all the fans.
They're really Flames fans for the most part in Calgary.
Are they rooting four or against the Oilers tonight.
Speaker 14 (40:00):
Well, we were doing a little giveaway on the show
today and our text topic was if the Oilers win tonight,
it'll be worse than blank.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
And we had all sorts of things.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
We had a lot of people call in about having
to remarry their ex wives.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
We had people talking about having their in laws moving permanently.
Speaker 14 (40:21):
Like this is not going to be good for Calgary
fans because it's one thing to have the Oilers win it,
it's another thing for the Flames to be in a
little bit of disarray right now. So if the Oilers
fans win, Flames says, don't really have anything to stand on.
There's nothing good that we've done. We got a bad
long term signing after the Kachuck trade, who's obviously the
superstar of the Panthers now, and just the way that
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everything is kind of snowballed since then, bad signings having
to trade away put and trade away their best goaltender
just last week. So who knows what the season's going
to be. And now you got the Oilers who might
win the championship. There's going to hold that over our heads.
That's going to be a little rock for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
But wait a minute, Maddie, it's been thirty one years
since a Canadian team has won the Cup. Don't you
guys want to bring the Cup home? Don't you have patriotism?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
And don't you want to see the Cup in Canada
for the I mean there's a lot of people that
are alive that have never seen the Cup.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
In Canada, myself included.
Speaker 14 (41:18):
And I would prefer it to be my team that
does that, because, like I said, I don't want to
have to deal with all of these fans being like
we were the first team to bring it back and
it was all us and you can thank us, and oh,
I don't want to deal with that all the time
when these guys have their ring if it goes that way.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
So That's one thing that I.
Speaker 14 (41:38):
Think a lot of people in Calgary are nervous about.
But I will say, like the family conversations have been
interesting of that exact.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
Kind of dichotomy.
Speaker 14 (41:47):
Do you want the Cup back in Canada or do
you want your biggest rival to be in Like I've
said before, if there's like Winnipeg or Ottawa that brings
a Cup back, like, I'm like, whatever, I don't really
there's no I will read there. But if it's Vancouver,
there's a rivalry. If it's Edmonton, there's a rivalry. If
it's Toronto, there's a rivalry. And I just don't want
those fan bases to have that extra achievement to hold
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over the head of Flames fans if they do do it.
Speaker 8 (42:14):
So that's what it all comes down to.
Speaker 14 (42:17):
But a lot of people, I will say, not a lot,
but there are certain amount of people who, even though
they're Flames fans, will be cheering for the Cup to
come back to Canada. It's tough for me because whenever
the Flames get eliminated, I try and find the team
in the States that has the most Canadians left on it,
which typically there's one that has like twelve or fifteen. Unfortunately,
this year, the Panthers, I think, only have two Canadians
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and the Oilers have all Canadians essentially.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
So that argument has also gone out of the window
for me.
Speaker 14 (42:44):
But some people are cheering for the Oilers. I just
can't do it as someone who has grown up with
the flame and.
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Sea on my chest.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
So what do you think like the rest of the
country or do you think like the people in Vancouver
or the people in Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island. I'm
trying to name as many random provinces. How about the
people in Hamilton, thunder up in what at right now?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
What about all the.
Speaker 8 (43:12):
All those people, all the ones out east?
Speaker 14 (43:14):
Saying it before Whistler, I think that a lot of
people will be cheering for the Cups come back to Canada.
There's a lot of guys from Ontario on the team,
so I'm sure there's a certain amount of that. I
find the Leafs fans once their team gets eliminated, they
generally just checked out of everything else anyways, So that
would be one thing that I'm kind of thinking with
that over there. But the Vancouver fans are like, if
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you think flights fans are down there. The Vancouver fans
are way worse because they actually lost to the Oilers
as part of this run and they didn't have their
best goalie.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
So they're saying to themselves, if we had our best goalie.
Speaker 14 (43:46):
Like they have that injury excuse, right, if we had
our best goalie, we could have been there, We could
have beat the Oilers. We would have definitely beat the Panthers.
And now they're watching the Oilers win it. So that's
another rivalry. Like BC and Alberta. There's certainly different points
of view that you'll see between those two provinces, so
there's a.
Speaker 8 (44:02):
Rivalry there as well. And when Vancouver lost to Edmonton,
that was big. But I think that even Vancouver.
Speaker 14 (44:08):
Fans and everyone out in BC is probably having a
pretty hard time coming to.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
Terms with how this has changed. Like they're up like
they were up three nothing two.
Speaker 14 (44:18):
This is supposed to be like a week ago, Like
we're not supposed to be here, This isn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
But blow in the hold.
Speaker 14 (44:25):
You got the best player on the planet and eventually
you can go video game mode and here's where you
end up.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
You just said that, Maddie, because I just had Jason
Demaerz from ANHL network on and he said, not only
is Connor McDavid the best player in the world right now,
he thinks he might be the best player.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Is that just from a former player's perspective or is
that how fans are thinking or is that just ridiculous
since he hasn't won a Cup yet.
Speaker 14 (44:54):
I like it kind of depends in my opinion, it
depends on how you want to look at the best
player every Obviously you have to win a Stanley Cup
to be the best player.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Of Gretz, he had a handful of them, but it's
very different now, like the way that.
Speaker 14 (45:08):
Connor has been able to dominate this league, where even
Sidney Crosby wasn't at this level for being kind of
head and shoulders ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 8 (45:18):
It's fascinating to watch. Like I didn't really get to
see Gritzky in his prime.
Speaker 14 (45:21):
I was like just a single year age when he
was retiring from the NHL.
Speaker 8 (45:26):
So there's obviously the era adjustments.
Speaker 14 (45:29):
Nowadays you have the salary caps with teams aren't nearly
as loaded as they could be back in the day.
Listen I certainly think he's in the conversation. The way
that he's produced points, the way he has broken Gritzky's
records is he's kind of gone throughout.
Speaker 8 (45:42):
The first half of his career here.
Speaker 14 (45:44):
The only thing he's been missing is the Stanley Cups
and a run like this, especially if they do end
up pushing this thing over the edge.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
This is the type of thing where you start to
wonder if it's.
Speaker 14 (45:56):
Almost like a down that breaks and now Connor's going
to constantly be back in the Cup final, irrelevant of what.
Speaker 8 (46:04):
His team around him is. Because I really didn't.
Speaker 14 (46:06):
Think this blue line was going to be good enough
to get the Oilers to the Stanley Cup Final. I
thought that they were to turnover prone, so they made
bad decisions under pressure. I didn't think they defended their
netlinder well enough. And sure enough, they've all found a
way to figure it out. And it's all based on,
for me, the fact that a lot of these players
believe that if they make a mistake, Connor can go
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out and fix that and get them right back into
a game which allows them to play a little bit
freer maybe, and to have that effect on everybody around
you is something pretty special and pretty important. It helps
that he's got Leon dry Settle, there's another top ten player,
but he also had top ten players around him his
entire career.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
By the time Connor's done, he very well could.
Speaker 14 (46:47):
Be named the best player. But it's so hard to
dustin eras and without the Stanley Cups, I just find
it hard to say that for Connor right now.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Maddie, really appreciate the time. Man, Thank you so much
for coming on the show. Good to see and talk
with you.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
This has been a pleasure.
Speaker 11 (47:01):
Man.
Speaker 8 (47:02):
We'll see you soon, hopefully chat soon. I cam thro
underway for the NFL and all that stuff.
Speaker 14 (47:07):
So enjoyed Game seven tonight and the start of everything
else we got, I guess the Olympics, although we're gonna
be cheering for different teams there.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
But there he is.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Matti Rose, co host of The Big Show with Russick
and Rose on Sportsnet nine to sixty in Calgary, the
radio home of the Calgary Flames. You know, he said
something that reminded me about Connor McDavid. It reminds me
a lot of Tom Brady. I'll tell you what that
is and we'll find out what everybody learned when we
return here thirty eight minutes past the hours to Dan
(47:38):
Patrick's show,
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
You guys are awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I asking you deliver in terms of who you're rooting
for tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Just checking out the social media.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hit us up at DP show on Twitter at Ross Tucker,
NFL also want to talk to you on the phone
lines at eight seven seven to three DP show in particular,
by the way, if you're a Canadian listener but you're
not an Edmonton we want to talk to non Edmonton,
non Edmonton's and Alberta right, non Alberta.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Canadian callers.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Or if you're a true original, diehard Panthers fan and
you can prove it, we want to hear from you.
I'm actually surprised looking at my social media, looking at
Twitter or x whatever we're calling it. Thomas c k says,
I'm cheering for the Panthers because of Bob. Former flyer
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net My Chas Moseby says, not an Oiler fan, just
don't want to see Canada take the cup back.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
USA hockey is do or die.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Scott Hurd because I'm a San Jose Sharks fan, but
I'm rooting for Panthers because the new captain America in
Matthew Chacook and The Dan Lebotard Show.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Today might be their last show.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Zach Polvino says, a lot of Buffalo Sabers fans rooting
for Florida night, a lot of former Sabers players on
Florida's roster, so evidently there are reasons to be rooting
for the Panthers tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Not me, man, I am all in on the Oilers.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
In fact, if I was like a crazy rich guy,
which I'm not, this would be the type of night
that if the Oilers won, I want to like hop
on the private jet and go to Edmonton for the
next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Can you even imagine what it's going to be up
like up there the next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
There's no way people have to work tomorrow at Edmonton
if they win tonight, right, I mean they even make
They're so nice up there. They don't make you call
in stick right like I understand, Fritzy, Do you have
a Canadian accent?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah? Not really, That's the best I can give you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Again, Eh, we're going in? Eh? Is that Minnesota? I
don't even know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
They're related, There's like there's a little bit of relation there,
all right, so let's talk.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Here's why.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I've seen multiple people say that this is the biggest
Stanley Cup Final game ever.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Now that sounds like hyperbole. Let me give you some numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's the first time a team has come back from
three to zero to force a game seven since nineteen
forty five. We all know that no Canadian team has
won the Cup in thirty one years, and there hasn't
even been a game seven period since twenty nineteen. You
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combine those three numbers, I think you can make an
argument that this is the most important, most impactful Stanley
Cup Final.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
By the way, I'm going to combine those three right there.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think I think I want to make that Marvin
and Paul, I think I want to make that the
stat of the day. Those three things combined.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Stat of the day, stat of the day, that beast
stat of the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Here comes that what stat of the day?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
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the official Trading Cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I mean,
does anybody want to argue, maybe on social media, maybe
you give us a call. Anyone want to argue that
they can think of a more important Stanley Cup final
game right now, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I think if I were a hockey true, I may
say a certain matchup of a great classic hockey franchises
would be a better.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Stanley Cup final.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
But if the Oilers win, this becomes sports historical, where
again they'll be treated differently than a normal Stanley Cup win.
It won't be treated It'll be compared to the Red
Sox and four, It'll be compared to, you know, the
great twenty eight to three Patriots versus the Falcons. It'll
be compared to those type of comebacks, which makes it
gives it more legs going.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Forward, which is a whole other thing.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Is it a comeback or a collapse? It's always a
combination of both. But tonight's game will determine I feel
like whether or not we frame it more as a
comeback or more as a collapse.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
Marv, you know what the nineteen ninety four Stanley Cup
Final Game seven, the Rangers versus the Canucks, Messia guaranteed
that they'd win Game seven, and up until that point,
the Rangers hadn't won a title in like fifty plus years.
And I only remember that because I was a kid
living here in Connecticut and.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It was a really big deal. That was a huge deal.
Speaker 9 (05:00):
The Rangers and the Knicks were both in the finals
in ninety four and so it was everywhere. So I
remember that specifically, But obviously I'm not a hockey guy either,
but just from personal experience, that was a big one too.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No question.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
The other thing is do you think because it's a
Game seven, it's more impactful than a one off? Meaning
is a Game seven a bigger deal than a Super.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Bowl or a Final four.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Basketball championship, college hoops or even like a World Cup
match is? Because they've been playing against each other for
six games already in a series, does that make the
game seven, the ultimate winner takes all a bigger deal
than if it's just two teams playing each other because
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they're both championship games.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
PAULI, Yeah, exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Like, if you compare this to the Patriots versus the Falcons,
imagine at the end of the third quarter, as the
Patriots are doing the comeback, they take a two day
break for us to anticipate the fourth quarter. We've had
since Friday, We've had the entire weekend to salivate for
this Monday night matchup.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
You get Game.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Seven, but you get days to prepare to tune in
and publicize it set.
Speaker 10 (06:10):
But I don't I don't know if I look at
it like that though, because imagine if in that Patriots
Falcons game, the Patriots had that comeback and that wasn't
Game seven, it was game one. It's like, okay, well,
good comeback.
Speaker 11 (06:23):
See again.
Speaker 10 (06:23):
Next time, we're gonna go to jump to game two
and then see what happens there, and then see what
happens game four. I think I think the one game
is much more, is much better than.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well so a game seven, though, has the build up
to get there, and it's like you accomplish something in
the series just to get it to three to three
game seven, and you've been building towards it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes see, isn't that what.
Speaker 10 (06:52):
You did the whole season in the whole playoffs too, Yeah,
build towards.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This one thing.
Speaker 10 (06:56):
Okay, you get to win tonight, not all right? Hey,
you know what those seven game series got. We could
still get back in this, you know what I mean.
It's like, I get that Game seven, you had to
each one three, but you just spent a whole season
and now a whole playoffs doing that is.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
One bigger than the other, or is it six and
one hand half dozen the other?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Fritzy, I think it's kind of six and one half
a dozan or the other. I understand Seam's point. I
totally agree. If someone had a great Game one or
Game five or whatever, it's not a deciding game. It's
not in sports lore anymore because that wasn't for the championship.
There's another If it's a tomorrow, it makes that game
not as special. So I and you're already forcing a
Game seven with the Super Bowls, and I think it
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has to be a deciding game. I know it's great
to have to build up in what happened in Game
two and this one got in a fight with this
one in game five, but you know it's.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Got to be a deciding game.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Paully, that could be debunked, though, I normally I think
Fritzy's totally right. Game seven is where you make history.
But if you go back to the eighty eight World Series,
the Dodgers versus the Oakland A's Kirk Gibson's home run
off Dennis Eckersley, that was game one.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, how about how about Mets Red Sox eighty six,
the Buckner game Game six.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
There's still another game, but they still had to play
game seven.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
If you ask someone casually, Kirk Gibson, Yeah, he hit
the walk off home run to win the World Series.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
That was game one.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But it's the most memorable play of that series, and
it happened in game one. But it's set the tone,
by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
The whole expression six in one hand, half dozen the other.
We're talking about eggs, right, What are we talking about there?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's what I always think it. Can it be anything?
Or is it eggs?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I guess you could probably put any item six of
one thing and half it does the other way.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They cancel each other out.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But can you can can anybody? Can any of us
hold six eggs in the hand? Is that pretty easy?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
We're doing that thing today.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know that I can hold six eggs in
my hand.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You have the biggest hands on the room, clearly.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't know that that's the case. First of all,
I have average hands. I'm out, we know that already.
I don't know that I'm far behind you there, Mark,
But I would just say someone came up with that
expression six and one hand, half dozen the other and nobody.
Not many people can actually get six eggs in their hands.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I think four would be the max in this room.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, and how do you get it without cracking the one?
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I remember remember Ben McDonald, the baseball pitcher. There was
like a I think he was on the cover of
Sports ullustrated. He could like hold six baseballs or something
crazy in his hand, that's how big his hand was. Again,
was not expecting to come up with this topic. But
I was expecting to go to Vicky who's in Boca
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at eight seven, seven to three DP show.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What's up? Vicky?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Please tell me you're a die hard, lifelong Panthers fan.
Speaker 12 (09:30):
Yes, good morning, Yes, absolutely original fan back in the
day when they were in it against the Avalanche. I
stood in line the original way you'd get tickets to
ticket Master, stood in line with my son in a
car seat, stood in line for the ticket, got the
two tickets the home game. You know, we got blown
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out of course, but I saw the cop It was awesome.
You know, here we are years later, but you know,
I got to say, you know, I got to think
that Scott, Melanie Vanbiesbrook, Joe Zanowski, those guys got to
be in the House tonight. You know, they got to
be saying, you know, you got to win it tonight,
and I think they're going to win it. I got
to be right behind them. There's so many people down
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here that are die hard just right along with me.
You know, we've been following them along last year, this year.
I mean, it's been great. It's been really fun to
just come along with them for the ride. And it's
been fun. And there's so many people, as you say,
coming back to the accent, there's so many people down
here from everywhere that you couldn't possibly capture one accent
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for the state of Florida. There's so many people even
from South America and Central America that you couldn't possibly
capture one accent for everything.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Oh, Vickie, I have a question for you real quick.
I'm going to keep you on here for a second.
We are all rooting for Edmonton because it's a better story,
because Canada hasn't had it in thirty one years the history.
Is there anything you can say to me, the dan Nets,
the five hundred radio stations, Peacock, everybody listening or watching
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right now, Is there anyway I want you to give
us your best pitch for why we should actually root
for the Florida Panthers instead of the Edmonton Oilers.
Speaker 12 (11:16):
Man, that's a tough one. I mean, you got it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You gotta get high stump, high stumped.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Go ahead, vicis if.
Speaker 12 (11:25):
This team plays hard and they play in your face,
you gotta have a lot of respect for a team
that's played really hard and in your face all season long.
And if they can follow that up tonight, then man,
you got to stand up and shake their hand and
go good game.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
All right, Vicky, thank you for the call on a.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Can I talk trying to say sail and scale on
a scale of one to ten, what would you grade
Vicky's sales job, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Yeah, she balked on that one even did the big setup.
You gave her a chance to think it through. She
could have just said, oh, I guess you guys don't
like America and drop the phone. She could have gone, oh, that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Would have been a good one.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
If you're gonna say, if you're gonna sell me on
the Panthers night, you have to you have to go
to national pride right like why you want Canada win?
Because it also does make it? Is it better or
worse for the NHL if Edmonton wins, Oh, better crosses over.
It crosses over for Dan. Yeah, but then you still
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have that every year you have that, can a Canadian
team win it? Whatever, Marv, I'm not feeling her sales
job there. No, I'm about to go with a three
three out.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Of ten Seaton.
Speaker 10 (12:41):
Yeah, maybe a four and a half.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, it's lower than that, because if you're ever selling
in life, if you're ever selling in life, you don't
start with Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I know.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
There's a lot of guys listening right now, better sales
guys and gals that they're driving their next account.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
They're driving for their next sale. Try this one. Walk
in there, like I gotta set a white wild what
are they called white?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Remember Chris buy the white wall tires? Yeah, coming there,
I got.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
The best mufflers, remember Chris Farley and Tommy Boyd?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Like, no, so good, it is so good.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Maybe somebody on you know, and even the people that
are saying on social media at DP show at Rostock
NFL that they're rooting for the Panthers, it's because like
there's former guys from their team that are on that
team now. You know the guy that said that you
know a lot of former Sabers or you know playoff Bob,
the goal used to be with the Flyers, which is interesting,
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by the way, I I, yes, I appreciate the loyalty
of those fans to the players that they used to
cheer for Paul, and.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Also, I think you could casually change who you're rooting
for if you're not invested in either of these teams.
When I was watching Patriots Falcons, I wanted the Falcons
to win that Super Bowl because it was original. The
Patriots had won a bunch, the Falcons never won. They
were winning, But once the Patriots were closing in on
a lead, I started wanting to see history. I wanted
to see them complete the comeback out of just sports history.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
No, okay, is that a sports history thing? Or is
it you're the producer of a three hour radio show
and you want to have a better topic the next day.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Very fair? That sounds selfish, it yes, it is.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
It's selfish.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
But I think if I was a casual fan, I
probably would have rooted more for the Falcons to hold
on to the lead. But once they gave it up,
You're like, oh my gosh, they're going to complete these acts.
You can dine out on it for years.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Court ball sounds like riffle ball. For the elite to
have tennis courts, it was like a park, and most
part it was a public park with three three like
bad green tennis courts.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's not elite Seaton.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Yeah, and it's like most of the parks that when
I grew up, nobody played tennis on them.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They were empty. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (15:17):
Yeah, twenty four hours a day, and when you did
see somebody playing tennis, we'd be like, what are they
doing playing tennis?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's such a great point. They were always empty. All right,
I'm loving these calls. I'm loving these topics.
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Speaker 3 (16:39):
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for Dan here in the Big Chair and we have.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
One of the true treasures in sports tonight, Game seven,
Winner take All Stanley Cup Final and the storylines are
just ridiculous. Thirty one years since a team from Canada
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has hoisted the Cup and we know how much they
love hockey. There's obviously a lot of other really good sports.
Over the weekend, we talked.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
About the soccer Scottie Scheffler, the Olympic Trials.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We also have the Aggies and the.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Volunteers in Game three for the National Championship College World
Series tonight. But I'm just telling you this is as
excite as I've been for a hockey game in a
long long time. I've heard people say, I've read people right,
read people right, yeah, that this is the biggest Stanley
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Cup Final game ever, biggest Stanley Cup Final game.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Of their lifetime. Let's talk about it with Jason.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Demarez does an excellent job, not only for NHL Network,
but had an incredible career. Exactly I think I have
this right. Exactly seven hundred games in the NHL, which
is very cool. He's played for the Panthers, his last
game was for the Oilers, and he is the man. Jason,
thanks so much for coming on the show. I really
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appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
What's going on Ross? How you doing? My maning?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Awesome? So exactly seven hundred That was that obviously by design?
Speaker 13 (18:27):
It was not, No, it was I ended up having
a pretty bad injury that kept me out for about
a year, and then I came back and Edmonton was
gracious enough to give me a tryout. I spent the
year in the minors, and then they gave me my
last game in the in San Jose where I started
my career, So it was incredible. I got to go
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out on my own sword and kind of choose the
way I wanted to end my career. What you know,
as athletes is so hard to do and we're not
always allowed that privilege. So for me, it was incredible
and I really do so grateful that I was given
that opportunity. So I have a little stock in both
teams right now, Panthers and Oilers, so it's it's tough
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for me to pick who I want to win.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, really, I want to get to that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And I'm curious your thoughts of what I've seen some
of your colleagues say about this being the most anticipated
end or the biggest Stanley Cup Final game ever or
in their lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Are you on board with that?
Speaker 11 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (19:30):
I just I do think especially this generation, and you
could even go back within this century, just because there's
so many incredible storylines, you know, the down three. There's
only two teams that have come back in the Stanley
Cup Finals. Both of them were nineteen forty five and
nineteen forty two, and only the Maple Leafs have done that.
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So typically when you're down three it's all but over.
They've managed to scratch and claw. You know, Connor McDavid's
having a historic year. It's you know, and you look
on the panther side, you know, Bobrovski was probably the
odds on favorite to win the con smythe and then
all of a sudden, Connor McDavid takes it from him.
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Paul Maurice, the head coach, hasn't won in his whole
career and this would be his second back to back
finals loss. So there's just so many incredible storylines and
obviously you touched on it. It's Canada, you know, it's Canada.
Speaker 11 (20:25):
This is our sport.
Speaker 13 (20:28):
It's been thirty years since there's been a Canadian team
to win Edmonton, forty years that they've won, so's it's
typically a sport that we should be winning every year.
And obviously the players that are within each organization are Canadian, American, European.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
So you know, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
But just to be in that building in game six
at Rogers' Place and to hear those fans how bad
they want it and the sound pales in comparison and
listen the Panthers Ammirant Bank. It's a great rink, really loud,
but it's nothing compared to Roger's Place in Canadian fans.
So it was just amazing to see. And they want
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this so bad, so it'd be great. I'd be happy
with either one. It's been a phenomenal series and it's
gonna be a barn burner tonight.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So Jason, why do you think it's been thirty one years?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I mean, you are Canadian, You've played for Canadian teams
and teams in the States. Is there anything you can
put your finger on as to why none of the
Canadian teams have won it in so long?
Speaker 13 (21:32):
I mean, there's so many factors, like obviously the way
the organization has run, there's a lot of pressure in
Canada that potentially could hinder teams because media, as you know,
can be such a vacuum out there and they just
want the teams to win so bad and sometimes put
unwanted pressure in the players. And you know, honestly, I
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it's just one of those there's more American teams than
there is Canadian teams, so it really, you know, they're
kind of at odds but it for it to be
this long is pretty wild. So if we could see
this then pull this off, I mean not only a
historic comeback, but a historic comeback for a Canadian team
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being this long of a drought. I mean, there's something
poetic about it. So we're gonna we're gonna see what
they can do tonight. And obviously Connor Mcjesus McDavid is
going to have a big hand in that. So if
he could also get the points record for a single playoffs,
that would be pretty awesome as well. But it's like
I said, there's just so many different storylines at so
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many angles of this, and it being Canadian team first
time thirty years, I mean, it would be just so
such a beautiful ending to the season.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We're talking with.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Jason Demarez does a terrific job for NHL Network, covering
the entire league especially I guess I'm curious what happened Jason.
I filled in for Dan ten days ago. It was Friday,
June fourteenth, and it was three oh. The Panthers were
up and I said, you know what, They're not going
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to sweep him. I think the Oilers will get one.
I had Steve Levy on the show, I said, were
the Panther's just that much better? And he's like, yeah,
they are, Like they just have this well rounded team
and their goalie is better.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And how did it just flip like a switch like that.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
Well, you're obviously the Jinks. Well we figured that out.
I mean, no, it was wild. They were down three nothing.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
Chris Nablock comes out and says, you know, we still
have ten days of hockey left, and we're all.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
Sitting there like this guy's delusional.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
Like they're getting worked in every aspect of the game,
and you look at some of the underlying numbers and
they're actually out performing Florida for big chunks and they
kind of just found something in that room. They put
together in game near the end of game three, they
put together this Henry Brown' a Tsnmark line, and this
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line kind of just flipped the script and they got
started getting some great goaltending and it just seemed like
they game four, that building was rocking in Edmonton, and
it's like they just took that energy and they've just
been riding that for the last three games. And you
know how it is being a player momentum that people say,
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oh it's not a thing. It's it's game the game,
but momentum and confidence are different. But when you have
the confidence level higher than the other team, you're probably
gonna outperform them. And right now, it just seems like
the confidence for Edmonton is through the roof and they've
really caught Florida off guards. So they got to figure
something out soon Florida because the last game it just
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seemed like they've forgotten kind of how to play and
they're doing a lot of uncharacteristic things. So and usually
when I see that, being a former player and now commentating,
I'm like, well, when they're making the same mistake over
and over again, it's typically they're feeling the press.
Speaker 11 (25:00):
And their confidence levels are low.
Speaker 13 (25:02):
So that's a scary thought when you look at that,
because for huge parts of the season, this Florida teams
like the most consistent team and probably wire to wire,
one of the better teams in the league, if not
the best. So you think they're going to figure it out.
I do think they're going to have their best game
of the series tonight, but Edmonton is just on a
different level. So if they keep riding that momentum, I mean, again,
(25:25):
it's just it's crazy to think, like, you know, I
was part of a reverse sweep. I unfortunately was the
guy that got reverse swept. And you never think it's
going to happen till it happens, and it's one of
the worst feelings, and the pressure gets so big and
inside that locker room and around because you're expected to win.
It's your up three nothing, it's you should win. Then
(25:46):
you lose game four, you lose game five, and then
game six you're like, well, if we don't win this one,
the coin it's a coin flip and and everything's they're
coming downhill. So you got to think in that room,
there's a lot of doubt. And they got a twelve
those thoughts quick because otherwise it's going to be a
short night for them.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That is great stuff, Jason.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I'm curious, you know, with this being game seven, I'm
assuming this will be the best ratings for a hockey
game in a long, long time.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well, I was saying earlier in the show.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I've got tickets in the second row for the Hershey
Bears in the AHL That's where I live, and I
love It's a great the Giant Center in Central Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
It's an awesome marinea. I love it, but I feel like.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
On some level TV doesn't do it justice to just
how fast you guys are flying around the ice. I
feel like, is there anything that could happen tonight or
anything that you have an idea that could help grow
the game even more from a television perspective.
Speaker 13 (26:54):
I mean, unless you're strapping a go pro to the
guys and many cameras, it's too hard. It's one of
the I always tell.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
People they should do that. Why not do that?
Speaker 11 (27:04):
It should just have cameras all over the place.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
And I mean you could maybe bring the camera closer
and have one of those, you know, on a wire,
kind of like the did in the NFL, where it's
just it's kind of traversing the whole rink. But I
don't know, it's it's one of those sports that you
know you need to be live just to feel it
and feel the energy. And I mean, listen, Connor McDavid's
(27:27):
best player right now and maybe of all time, and
to watch him live is something special, just to just
to iso cam him. So I always tell people, if
you can get out to a game, that's always a
good way to kind of get you get you locked
in and and start. But it does it zero justice
on TV. It's a great product on TV. I love
what they do, but it's it's just a different animal
(27:50):
when you're in person and one of those sports that
feel in the crowd and hearing the hits and the
boards and the puck hit the glass.
Speaker 11 (27:58):
It's just it's it's poetry.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Man.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
It's a great thing to watch and a great thing
to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait, did you say Connor McDavid might be the best
player of all time? I mean, you know, I knew
he's the best.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Player now, but we're talking like Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky,
Mario Lemieux.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Doesn't he need to win for us to make a
comment like that. He's really that good?
Speaker 13 (28:19):
Jason, He's I mean, I know I catch so much
flak for this, but and it could be recency biased,
but listen, he needs to win. He needs to put
it to have his name on a cup.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
But just.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
The level of the players now, the equipment that the technology, uh,
it's so much far advanced then it was back in
the day in years priors, and the Gretzkare and things
like that, and not to say that if you put
Gretzky and Lemieux in this era, whatuld they do as well?
Sure they'd probably they'd be up there. But for what
Connor is doing in this era and dominating this much,
(28:54):
it just goes without saying, like, we haven't had a
player this dominant ever in such a long time. You
could say Sydney Crosby, but by winning, but just purely
on his own. He is just so talented and so incredible,
and I mean, what he's done in this playoff, in
this era, it just can't be denied. He's incredible. The
(29:17):
things he does every game, it's it's I can't even
explain it. And we sit up there as analysts and
we played the game and I played against him and
felt what it was like to play against him, and
watching him every night in and night out. We just
sit up there every night we're like, this is a joke,
Like he's playing a video game and we're just we're
just players in this game, and he just does what
(29:37):
he wants. So for him, I just I think right
now he's the best player in our game. I think
if he wins, I mean, he's in my top three already.
If he wins, I would probably, and he's still got,
you know, another eight to ten years, so I do
think he'll win again if he doesn't win tonight, and
by then, I mean it's hard to deny him. So
(29:59):
I don't think records of Gretzky will be touched. But again,
he's shooting on guys that could even go down. The
butterfly wasn't even vented back then, which is when the
goalies go down in that little position, they just laid
down or kicked their legs out, So I mean it's
it was a little bit. I won't say it's easier
to score back then because the technology wasn't there, but
(30:20):
it just was a different era of scoring and goaltenders
and defenders. So I do I kind of stand on
that that pedestal saying I do think Connor's up. He's
top three for me right now, and if he wins tonight,
I'd be hard not to say he's the greatest right
now and then given another eight to ten years.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jason, we showed a picture of your headshot. You got
no front teeth. Now I'm looking at you right now,
You've got a great smile, good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
How many of those are your own teeth.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
These four are not mine.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
They got fixed up and then parts of the couple
in the autumn. But uh yeah, I was sitting on
the dentist chair this offseason and getting these things fixed
and then I was like, well, I think I'm retired
because there's no way I'm letting these things get out.
I had enough of this, so I just said that's it.
(31:17):
I called my wife and I was like, I think
I'm done. I was way too good now.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
So hockey hockey guys don't file retirement papers.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
They just send in their their dentist bill. Yeah, and
that's how that's how the league knows they're done.
Speaker 13 (31:32):
I said, I've submitted to insurance and I said, well,
I said, thanks, guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That is incredible, Jason, thanks so much the time man.
Check him out NHL Network and enjoy the game tonight.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
Thanks Ross iv A going on all right.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Absolutely, what awesome guy. That's one of the cool things
about the show. Was Number one, that Fritzy's incredible. But
I never talked to that guy before in my life.
Now I want to hang out with him.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He was it's so funny that he said that Connor McDavid,
it is like a video game, did I or did
I not say? On the pre show production, meaning that
Connor McDavid reminds me of me playing Sega Genna says NHL.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Ninety four back in when I was fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I mean that's what it reminded you that when he
has the puck and he's weaving in and out of guys,
you're not really supposed to do that other than on
the video game, and he's actually doing it.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
It's incredible, Marvin in every sport and even ones that
you don't know. So I saw a MESSI maybe twenty sixteen.
I don't know anything about soccer, but I knew he
was the best player, right, exact same thing with like
Connor McDavid, Like, I don't know anythink about hockey, but
after watching four about three or four minutes, Oh that's
the best player.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
How about you know we were talking about Usain Bolt
earlier and like how he's the fastest guy. You know,
that guy played seven hundred games in the NHL and
he's sitting up there with other NHL guys and they're
watching McDavid at being like this is a joke. This
is a joke that he's able to do whatever he
wants against guys.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It it is if you want. I mean, look, there's
a lot of reasons to watch tonight. That is a
big one.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I'm curious though about what he said, and we can
talk about this later. And I want to get to
some of the callers as well. Eight seven seven to
three DP show or maybe hit me up on social
at Ross Tucker NFL at DP show on Twitter or
whatever social platform. Is there anything they can do to
make the TV product? Why don't they put GoPros on
(33:30):
the guy's helmets.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I mean, that feels like they could easily do that,
and then you'd have a better idea of just how
fast they're flying around the ice. Any ideas, Fritzy Seaton,
paul Y, Marvin, you got an idea?
Speaker 8 (33:43):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, put it on the stars.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Don't put it on the enforcers because you don't want
to see the fists coming at their faces during the show.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Why not? That's exactly what I want to see. But
you're talking, I'm not sure if the NHL does the
NHL want that. I don't think they even have that
many fights anymore. Doesn't seem to be not embracing the right.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
How about this, then, to implement cameras without messing with
the players. Put a camera on a referee and give
the fans a like an option, like a second screen
option to get the referees camera view.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I feel like they try that and it never like
it's just like so discombobulated. Jaunty, I feel like I
wanted on McDavid. Those cameras are so small.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Now, I want it on McDavid's helmet while he's weaving
in and out of these guys.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Let's make it more exciting to have a cameraman skating
on the ice amongst the action and just have his
head on a swim way.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Listen, if you've ever been to a live hockey game,
watching the refs is bananas. When they see the action
coming and they do that thing where they prop up
there butt, they prop up their butt on the side
of the window.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
So they don't get over Seaton especially I like too
when you see like a NHL ref get in the
middle of a fight and try and break it up
or whatever. And then you xtapose that to say the
NF official who just gets bumped slightly from behind and
they're like yellow flag comes out and you're like, dude,
come on, you know that. In the NFL, you know
the guy didn't mean to really hit you, you know
(35:09):
what I mean. They're like the NFL refs are so
soft compared to the NHL one who gets right in
the middle of the fight.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
If you if you touch the ref in the NFL,
it's an automatic ejection. In the NHL, sometimes those guys
catching open hand when they like when they wipe their
face with the glove, like yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Because I was at Last Two days after I was
in Last Time for Dan, I went to Jason Kelsey's
charity golf tournament and I was talking with Eric Lindross
and John Leclair and I was telling them how I
always kind of wish I could have tried to be
a Goon defenceman. I think I could have been a
good Goon defenceman. Anyway, that's that's either here nor now.
(35:52):
We got still a lot to get to. We got
what we learned today sports history. But let's find out
if the rest of Canada is rooting for the Oilers
or not. Matty Rose, the radio host up in Calgary,
well Joyce when we come back twenty minutes past the
hour here on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
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Speaker 3 (36:23):
The best American athletes look to punch their tickets to
the Paris Olympics.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
The US Olympic team trials part of making Team USA.
We'll find out what the guys learned in about twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Here on the Dan Patrick Show, Ross Tucker, Meadhead, James
Vanderbeek filling in for Dan in the big chair. And
this is pretty cool because we wanted to get a
radio host on from Calgary because there's a big rivalry
with Calgary and.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Edmonton, and so they say, we got this guy.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Matt Rose, co host of The Big Show with Russick
and Rose on sports Net nine sixty in Calgary, the
radio home with they. I'm like, his name's Maddie. It's
George Russeck and Maddie Rose. I go on weekly during
the NFL season. No idea what he looked like, by
the way, until this second right now, and he looks
like he is straight out of Canadian radio host casting.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's unbelievable, Maddie. It's Ross Tucker. Nice to see you man.
Thanks for coming on my show for once, I guess
not really my show.
Speaker 14 (37:32):
Whatever, Yeah, well for today right, Yeah, that's how I
feel with George Leaves. It's it's all good.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
It's great to.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Talk to you man.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
It's been far too long. I'm excited for the NFL
to come back so we can start having you on
our show. But yeah, things are good. Thanks for having
me excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Are you in Calgary right now? Or are you in Okatokes?
Speaker 8 (37:51):
No Iami, Calgary? No Atlas today? No down in oak
Tot's getting our pizza.
Speaker 14 (37:56):
Downtown Calgary's where you'll find me today. I avoid all
these Oilers jerseys that are on the sidewalk there are there,
seriously keeps tons because a lot of people will move
from Edmonton down to Calgary just a few hours down
the road. You know, I'm obviously biased, but personally it's
(38:17):
a better city. So people typically move from Edmonton down
to Calgary and not the other way.
Speaker 8 (38:22):
So yeah, we got a lot of.
Speaker 14 (38:23):
Edmonton fans around here wearing their jerseys very proudly.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
All right, So explain that it's a couple hours away.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Is it the only two cities in Alberta with NHL teams,
So I would say they probably hate each other, but
maybe not.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
You guys are just so nut. Do you guys hate anybody?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (38:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think we do.
Speaker 14 (38:46):
I think that there's a certain amount of like when
when someone new is coming into our country, you got
to treat them with respect. And we have this Canadian
identity that we have to uphold when we go abroad.
Speaker 8 (38:55):
But there are certainly very strong regional rivalries.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
People out here do not like Toronto and Eastern Canada
a whole time, and the Battle of Alberta is the
biggest sporting event that we have in our entire province.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
The whole country or the whole province gets together for it.
Speaker 14 (39:10):
When they played three to four games they'll play in
the regular season, when they played that playoff series a
couple of years ago, that both cities were just nuts.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Obviously that one didn't end well, to end too well
for the.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
Calgary fans, But yeah, it's one of those things that
kind of takes over our province for sure. Obviously Aki's
the big one up here, and those are the two
biggest teams that you'll see in these two demographics.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
We're talking with Matty Rose, co host of The Big
Show with Russik and Rose on Sportsnet nine to sixty
in Calgary. So you just got off the air, okay
a little bit ago, right, and I'm sure you took
a lot of calls and you're talking with all the fans.
They're really Flames fans for the most part in Calgary.
Are they rooting four or against the Oilers tonight.
Speaker 14 (40:00):
Well, we were doing a little giveaway on the show
today and our text topic was if the Oilers win tonight,
it'll be worse than blank.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
And we had all sorts of things.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
We had a lot of people call in about having
to remarry their ex wives.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
We had people talking about having their in laws moving permanently.
Speaker 14 (40:21):
Like this is not going to be good for Calgary
fans because it's one thing to have the Oilers win it,
it's another thing for the Flames to be in a
little bit of disarray right now. So if the Oilers
fans win, Flames says, don't really have anything to stand on.
There's nothing good that we've done. We got a bad
long term signing after the Kachuck trade, who's obviously the
superstar of the Panthers now, and just the way that
(40:42):
everything is kind of snowballed since then, bad signings having
to trade away put and trade away their best goaltender
just last week. So who knows what the season's going
to be. And now you got the Oilers who might
win the championship. There's going to hold that over our heads.
That's going to be a little rock for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
But wait a minute, Maddie, it's been thirty one years
since a Canadian team has won the Cup. Don't you
guys want to bring the Cup home? Don't you have patriotism?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
And don't you want to see the Cup in Canada
for the I mean there's a lot of people that
are alive that have never seen the Cup.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
In Canada, myself included.
Speaker 14 (41:18):
And I would prefer it to be my team that
does that, because, like I said, I don't want to
have to deal with all of these fans being like
we were the first team to bring it back and
it was all us and you can thank us, and oh,
I don't want to deal with that all the time
when these guys have their ring if it goes that way.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
So That's one thing that I.
Speaker 14 (41:38):
Think a lot of people in Calgary are nervous about.
But I will say, like the family conversations have been
interesting of that exact.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
Kind of dichotomy.
Speaker 14 (41:47):
Do you want the Cup back in Canada or do
you want your biggest rival to be in Like I've
said before, if there's like Winnipeg or Ottawa that brings
a Cup back, like, I'm like, whatever, I don't really
there's no I will read there. But if it's Vancouver,
there's a rivalry. If it's Edmonton, there's a rivalry. If
it's Toronto, there's a rivalry. And I just don't want
those fan bases to have that extra achievement to hold
(42:11):
over the head of Flames fans if they do do it.
Speaker 8 (42:14):
So that's what it all comes down to.
Speaker 14 (42:17):
But a lot of people, I will say, not a lot,
but there are certain amount of people who, even though
they're Flames fans, will be cheering for the Cup to
come back to Canada. It's tough for me because whenever
the Flames get eliminated, I try and find the team
in the States that has the most Canadians left on it,
which typically there's one that has like twelve or fifteen. Unfortunately,
this year, the Panthers, I think, only have two Canadians
(42:38):
and the Oilers have all Canadians essentially.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
So that argument has also gone out of the window
for me.
Speaker 14 (42:44):
But some people are cheering for the Oilers. I just
can't do it as someone who has grown up with
the flame and.
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Sea on my chest.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
So what do you think like the rest of the
country or do you think like the people in Vancouver
or the people in Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island. I'm
trying to name as many random provinces. How about the
people in Hamilton, thunder up in what at right now?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
What about all the.
Speaker 8 (43:12):
All those people, all the ones out east?
Speaker 14 (43:14):
Saying it before Whistler, I think that a lot of
people will be cheering for the Cups come back to Canada.
There's a lot of guys from Ontario on the team,
so I'm sure there's a certain amount of that. I
find the Leafs fans once their team gets eliminated, they
generally just checked out of everything else anyways, So that
would be one thing that I'm kind of thinking with
that over there. But the Vancouver fans are like, if
(43:36):
you think flights fans are down there. The Vancouver fans
are way worse because they actually lost to the Oilers
as part of this run and they didn't have their
best goalie.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
So they're saying to themselves, if we had our best goalie.
Speaker 14 (43:46):
Like they have that injury excuse, right, if we had
our best goalie, we could have been there, We could
have beat the Oilers. We would have definitely beat the Panthers.
And now they're watching the Oilers win it. So that's
another rivalry. Like BC and Alberta. There's certainly different points
of view that you'll see between those two provinces, so
there's a.
Speaker 8 (44:02):
Rivalry there as well. And when Vancouver lost to Edmonton,
that was big. But I think that even Vancouver.
Speaker 14 (44:08):
Fans and everyone out in BC is probably having a
pretty hard time coming to.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
Terms with how this has changed. Like they're up like
they were up three nothing two.
Speaker 14 (44:18):
This is supposed to be like a week ago, Like
we're not supposed to be here, This isn't supposed to happen.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
But blow in the hold.
Speaker 14 (44:25):
You got the best player on the planet and eventually
you can go video game mode and here's where you
end up.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
You just said that, Maddie, because I just had Jason
Demaerz from ANHL network on and he said, not only
is Connor McDavid the best player in the world right now,
he thinks he might be the best player.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Is that just from a former player's perspective or is
that how fans are thinking or is that just ridiculous
since he hasn't won a Cup yet.
Speaker 14 (44:54):
I like it kind of depends in my opinion, it
depends on how you want to look at the best
player every Obviously you have to win a Stanley Cup
to be the best player.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Of Gretz, he had a handful of them, but it's
very different now, like the way that.
Speaker 14 (45:08):
Connor has been able to dominate this league, where even
Sidney Crosby wasn't at this level for being kind of
head and shoulders ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 8 (45:18):
It's fascinating to watch. Like I didn't really get to
see Gritzky in his prime.
Speaker 14 (45:21):
I was like just a single year age when he
was retiring from the NHL.
Speaker 8 (45:26):
So there's obviously the era adjustments.
Speaker 14 (45:29):
Nowadays you have the salary caps with teams aren't nearly
as loaded as they could be back in the day.
Listen I certainly think he's in the conversation. The way
that he's produced points, the way he has broken Gritzky's
records is he's kind of gone throughout.
Speaker 8 (45:42):
The first half of his career here.
Speaker 14 (45:44):
The only thing he's been missing is the Stanley Cups
and a run like this, especially if they do end
up pushing this thing over the edge.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
This is the type of thing where you start to
wonder if it's.
Speaker 14 (45:56):
Almost like a down that breaks and now Connor's going
to constantly be back in the Cup final, irrelevant of what.
Speaker 8 (46:04):
His team around him is. Because I really didn't.
Speaker 14 (46:06):
Think this blue line was going to be good enough
to get the Oilers to the Stanley Cup Final. I
thought that they were to turnover prone, so they made
bad decisions under pressure. I didn't think they defended their
netlinder well enough. And sure enough, they've all found a
way to figure it out. And it's all based on,
for me, the fact that a lot of these players
believe that if they make a mistake, Connor can go
(46:27):
out and fix that and get them right back into
a game which allows them to play a little bit
freer maybe, and to have that effect on everybody around
you is something pretty special and pretty important. It helps
that he's got Leon dry Settle, there's another top ten player,
but he also had top ten players around him his
entire career.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
By the time Connor's done, he very well could.
Speaker 14 (46:47):
Be named the best player. But it's so hard to
dustin eras and without the Stanley Cups, I just find
it hard to say that for Connor right now.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Maddie, really appreciate the time. Man, Thank you so much
for coming on the show. Good to see and talk
with you.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
This has been a pleasure.
Speaker 11 (47:01):
Man.
Speaker 8 (47:02):
We'll see you soon, hopefully chat soon. I cam thro
underway for the NFL and all that stuff.
Speaker 14 (47:07):
So enjoyed Game seven tonight and the start of everything
else we got, I guess the Olympics, although we're gonna
be cheering for different teams there.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
But there he is.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Matti Rose, co host of The Big Show with Russick
and Rose on Sportsnet nine to sixty in Calgary, the
radio home of the Calgary Flames. You know, he said
something that reminded me about Connor McDavid. It reminds me
a lot of Tom Brady. I'll tell you what that
is and we'll find out what everybody learned when we
return here thirty eight minutes past the hours to Dan
(47:38):
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