July 3, 2024 • 47 mins
Talkin' Jake reacts the the Brewers' trade for RHP Aaron Civale and ponders what the San Francisco Giants could do at the trade deadline, which teams are the best fits for Jazz Chisholm, could the Cubs or Nats be buying or selling, some home run derby rules, and potential Dodgers and Brewers plans!
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0:00 Intro
1:40 Milwaukee Trades for Civale
8:05 The Giants are LOCKS to Buy at the Deadline?
14:15 Where is Jazz Chisholm a Good Fit?
21:00 Cubs Should Sell
24:25 Nationals Have Awesome Trade Pieces
29:35 Home Run Derby
32:30 Are These Dodgers Arms Available?
37:20 Toronto Blue Jays Could Trade THESE Pitchers!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Awaken Jake myself BBD as we
are heading to Fourth of July weekend. Happy fourth, enjoy it.
Be safe. A couple Roman candlefights in my day that
I wish I could have back. Thank God nobody got hurt,
but boy was I scared. Maybe I'll talk about that
(00:20):
more later. Maybe I won't be smart, have fun, have
a couple good drinks. Why not stay away from the fireworks,
watch them, protect your dogs, put them in a bathtub. Okay,
we are going to go over obviously, America's GM Jim
Bowden has an article. I'm half joking, I'm half not.
(00:41):
He did some mailbag stuff and I think it's at
the new Angle before I just become his guy. I
guess I'm wearing my cult member T shirt today on
the YouTube, and I think I belonged to the Cult
of Jim. There was a trade that happened Aaron Sava
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to the Milwaukee Brewers. Not a ton to break down there,
but I do think it'll ease into the conversation a
little bit where I don't know if I'm giving out
grades or maybe emoji reaction faces to some of Jim
Bowden's some of Jim Bowden's stances because I you know,
you guys have heard me fall in love with America's
(01:21):
GM Jim Bowden. There's some a couple interesting points that
got brought up, a couple I disagree with, a couple
I agree with, and a couple that tilted my head.
And you know, that's kind of why I live to
get my head tilted. If you don't know, there's a
trade that happened this morning. Aaron Savali, the sieve Connecticut guy.
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He was traded to the Milwaukee Brewers. Absolutely, they've been
looking for starting pitching help for a while. The twenty
nine year old that has a year and a half
left hasn't been great for Tampa this year. Five ones.
And if you are in the prospect capital world, or
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I guess if you're in the basic prospect capital world,
this is kind of a might be a tough one
for Tampa fans to swallow because last year they traded
for Aaron Savali. The rais right, the Rays are in
it every year. They added Aaron Savali two and a
half years at the time, they traded one of the
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top first base prospects, Kyle man Zardo, to the Cleveland Guardians.
He was called up for a cup of coffee. This
year hasn't done too much. He's still twenty three years old.
We'll see if Kyle Menzardo is a factor in this
season or future seasons for the guard Dogs. Aaron Savali,
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on the other hand, kind of looked. I think when
the trade happened last year, we were like, wow, Guardian
to raise there's two good pitching organizations to be a
part of for the East windsor Connecticut Northeastern grad and
he he was kind of shoving with Cleveland. Uh, he
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had thirteen starts to the tune of a two three
four last year, seventy seven innings pitch. He went to
Tampa and struggled last year and his final ten starts
a five thirty six ERA, So in Tampa he had
a five seventeen ERA over twenty seven starts. In Cleveland
he was a three seven seventy RA guy over seventy
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six starts, So tough for the Sieve. Aaron Savali, who
definitely doesn't like being called that, so if you see him,
don't But yeah, I think it's always interesting as we
head into the scope of trade season of everyone hunting
top prospects and who's gonna get traded. You know, one
of the one of the guys mentioned in Jim Bowden's
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article was Sammy Bissalo, the big catching prospect. I think
he's like a top fifteen prospect. Those guys don't get
traded a lot. Man Like, if you're trading one of
those guys, it's it's for a heavy duty piece, which, hey,
let's see what happens. I mean, if a Garrett Crochet goes,
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that's a guy who's been one of the best pitchers
in the American League. Did like some commentarian notes on it.
But here's the point. Aaron Savali is a starting pitcher
that's getting paid five million dollars this year. It's on
the low end. He's in his arbitration years. There's not
a lot of I mean not a lot of free
agent pitchers that get signed for less than that. He
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is underachieving, so the price tag isn't at his high
value that he got traded at last year. A two
three four, a guy who's twenty eight years old looking
like he's on the up, that you traded for a
top prospect. He got traded for Gregory Barrio. If I
looked at Brewer's Top thirty prospects, expecting to see him
at twenty or so not listed.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Good news, Bad news for you. He's already been moved
to the Ray's Top Prospects list, number nineteen. Okay, so
twenty ish. I don't know, you know, comparing orgs, I
don't know where he was on their list.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Maybe he was thirty one. Either way, the point is
h Gregory barrio So, hey, I'm not a scout. Sometimes
things click for guys. He is a speed player. It
looks like because he only has uh seven minor league
home runs in two hundred and forty five games. He
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does have seventy two stolen bases. But these are his
career minor league stats, which reminder, you know, not a
ton of guys that have worse minor league stats than
their major league stats. Maybe that's an app someday two
sixty four batting average, three to twenty two, on base
A three third, six A six, fifty seven ops. So
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you gotta really pick it. It looks like he does
have the speed. He had thirty two stolen bases in
the minor leagues. I say, why am I giving Gregory
Barrios's scouting report. I don't know, maybe the race sees something.
Maybe this guy will be Jose Cabiero in a couple
of years. The point is to get a MLB serviceable
starting pitcher with some upside who hasn't been pitching that great,
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Like the Brewers got an MLB starter, a guy that
a year ago was viewed as, I don't know, a
good three. I think Aaron Savali we would have said
that's a good potential three starter. Uh So the fact
the Brewers could get that for someone who wasn't on
their top thirty list, potentially the Ray's nineteenth prospect. Now,
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uh just a reminder as deadline season approaches that to
get deals done, if it's not for something high caliber,
high caliber, high caliber, you don't have to put the
chips all in. The fun fact that I read from
America's GM Jim Bowden the Orioles were stoked when they
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traded for Corbin Burns. They didn't give up a top
seven prospect of their Now, I know the Orioles are
playing with a different version of house money than every
other team pretty much, but think about that top seven
Corbyn Burns one year so years the timeline you guys
already know that you're listening to show. And hey, Gregory
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Barrios three twenty five batting average this year seven ninety six. Ops.
The light bulb has clicked. We'll see him tormenting the
Yankees in three years. And good for the Brewers because
they had another player mentioned in this article that I
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was like, Oh, that's such Brewers nation. But Arenzvali is
like dirty Brewers. I like that a lot. Let's get
into it because the article, if you want to read
it on the Athletic is answering thirty MLB trade deadline questions.
We will not be going through them. It was also
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a grab bag of questions to America's GM Jim Bowd
and that they sorted through and tweaked slightly for the
appropriateness of it. And I want to start with the
one that I initially as I was looking for things
to talk about today, the one that got a reaction
out of me. It was about the San Francisco Giants,
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and it was about a player as a fit for them.
Let me start with the Giants. The Giants have kind
of been out of sight, out of mind for me.
If I'm just being honest. The Dodgers are the Dodgers.
The San Diego Padres have been one of the teams
of the last month that everyone's like, yeah, I mean,
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this team traded for Dylan Cec right before the season.
This team added a lot of veterans, some that have
contributed in an amazing way in profar even guys like David
Peralta that I haven't really clicked yet, but at least
you're trying something. And Jackson Merrill remember when I did
rookies not being able to really contribute spoiler, He's our
all jm NL center fielder. So that coming to fruition
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along with the Luisa Rise trade, the first big trade
of the year, the Padres felt all in. We've always
loved their high end talent. Something about shilt seems to
have leveled that team off a little bit. And maybe
it was just getting rid of this whatever happened there
last year. I mean, that would be a really bad,
weird thirty for thirty, just so much talent. The wins
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just never happened until the very end of the season.
It was literally like one week too late. Anyways. The
San Francisco Giants, I mean, I've had them behind the Diamondbacks.
Like I know I have a little bias there, But
the Diamonbacks did it last year where they were under
five hundred in August and turned it on. The Dbacks
have been playing a better brand of baseball. I've talked
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about Monty turning it on. They got Perdomo back for
a bit. Corbyn Carroll had as bad of a start
as he could have. Now they haven't fully kicked in
a gear. But I don't know if you believe if
we put out a general pull, if we went out
on our talking baseball right now and we said, who
do you believe in the rest of the way Diamondbacks
are Giants. It's probably coming back worst case sixty percent,
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Diamondbacks highest seventy five percent. I don't know fan voting,
who knows how that goes down. The point is the
Diamonbacks did it last year. They have a lot of talent.
You believe in the Giants. Ever since that magical season
that was really fueled by incredible bullpen and an mvpsh
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effort from Buster Posey and a couple high performing veterans,
I've had the Giants kind of out of side, out
of mind. I've been looking for landing spots for Matt Chapman.
I mean maybe even my Yankees. And Matt Chapman has
been balling out lately that I've had the Giants soft selling,
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like if they can get something for their pieces. You know,
Matt Chapman's got an opt in contract that if you
could get something for him, I don't know. I had
the Giants selling, and Jim Bowden America's GM on the
pulse of it, he stated they're two and a half
games out of the wildcard spot. Little deceptive because most
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of the National League is although there's starting to be
a gap that's opening up. He said, there's any doubt.
I don't think there's any doubt that they're going to
be buyers at the deadline. So okay, that's a little
more hot to trot than I've been coming in about
the Giants, Like, don't get me wrong, I see the
other side of it, like if they're in the mix,
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this is a team that thought they were in on Korea,
and judge, every time I say that, it feels super backhanded.
I'm sorry, Giants fans, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I agreed to terms.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I thought they were Giants too, so I don't mean
that to come off as rude as it sounds that
the investment Uh Blake Snell, which you know, he's been
banged up and it hasn't been pretty, but he's still
getting paid this year. Uh, they traded for Robbie Ray,
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Like I know, we look at that as face value
and like, hey, Mariners and Giants did a move. They
you know, Robbie Ray's gonna come pitch for them. That's
a lot of money. That's adding one hundred mili. One
hundred mili contract.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I don't know exactly how much is left, but I
think over one hundred for for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So when you think about that Jung Huli out for
the season, that was one hundred mili contract they brought
in so lair at the buzzer, the Giants chips are
really on the table. That if this is where I
love going to a front office's mindset. The San Francisco
Giants see that two and a half games out, they
see their chips on the table, they say, we're still
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in this dance that I think the San Francisco Giants
are going to be trying to buy unless the I
was gonna say that the ceiling drops out the floor
would drop out. That's what would get you so okay.
So that was the first thing that changed my mindset.
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America's GM Jim Bowden got me. So what emoji? Would
that be? Kind of an eyebrow raise? We'll see. Now,
who are they going to add? The name that's thrown
out here? And I believe this is yeah, this is
from Jim and he is following up. There were questions
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about this guy earlier in the article, so he's kind
of continuing the convo a little bit. Jazz Chisholm getting
thrown in the mix. Now we've the Marlins. They're the
only team that we have confirmed is selling. So I
think we've been grabbing onto that. I mean, we just
did some Yes Network stuff that it was like, the
Marlins are the only team that has really sold, they
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will sell more. And Jazz Chism's that kind of a
funky point. He's he's been playing well and mostly he's
been on the field, which has been one of Jazz
Chism's bigger questions. At eighty two games this year, it's
his third most games played in a season, right around
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league average, hitting slightly above fourteen stolen basis, seven caught stealings.
Don't love that Jazz Chishm is a solid, contributing tools
e ballplayer that maybe there's more in there. He's twenty
six years old. We've been sometimes tough on Jazz. There's
been a couple quotes out there that are bizarre. I'll
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throw Jimmy's name in the mix here, but I think
it's just as bizarre that Jazz Chishm has that interview
where he said he never practiced with the team, and
he's playing that off like a cool thing, and it's
kind of like time out. It's been a couple of
years since I played team sports, definitely never approached the
major league level. But you know, I think the Yankees
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tell it, they practice together, they hit together.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think every I know there's not like during the
season like practices like like you think of with like
high school sports.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But it was bizarre. Jazz gets a weird target because
he was the MLB The Show cover athlete. Which did
he deserve it? Does he have a cool name? Yes?
Is he talented?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Are there a lot more it goes into MLB The
Show covers, then people probably assume, yeah, because you're getting
agencies and how much are we going to pay, and
they need to promote the game and all of that that.
You know, we probably get too caught up in that stuff.
But Jazz Chisholm right now is hitting pretty close to
his career numbers. He's a career one oh three ops plus.
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He has a one o four ops plus. This year
he has ten homers fourteen steels. So if you're looking
for a guy that can play some middle infield, America's
GM Jim Bowden says he still thinks his best position
is second base, which is funny because Jazz did tell
us he was gonna win a Gold Glove out there. Hey,
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maybe it will. I'll stop being skeptical.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
The metrics are torn on his center field play, but
potentially acceptable. He grated out very well his the full
year we got to see at second, So I think
a lot of people are excited about that possibility because
he was so good at second.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And well, you know, you could spin that in a
couple different directions. It's a versatility, or is it. He's
not great in centerfield, he's still new to it that Like,
I don't know, I viewed that more as a plus
that he could potentially play some outfield or some second base,
maybe shortstop in a pinch. I think that's a good
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thing for a left handed hitting guy who's twenty six,
who's stolen some bags, who's hit some home runs, who's
getting paid two million dollars this year and is under
team control through twenty twenty six. I think Jazzism would
be on the table. I'd be interested to see if
a team would bite. There have been some whispers, you know,
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about who he is as a person that I don't
know if teams would take a chance on Jazz. We've daydreamed,
and this is we do this in every sport, that
if you fall in the right organization, like whether it's
the NBA and a guy lands on the heat, you're like, okay,
like that, don't be surprised if that guy balls out.
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If it's you know, in baseball, we'd say with a
lot of pitchers, if they show up on the Brewers,
the Rays, the Guardians, the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Lot, I mean a lot of talented players both sides
of the ball, it's like you're one adjustment, one piece
of advice away from it all just clicking. Which Jazz
is certainly at an age where oh that extra judgement
he'll fully go because the talent is very much in there.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And also, like you know, I'm I'm still very much.
I know analytics don't support this, but you know, the
team around you matters. That the Marlins have not been
a talented team. Well, Jazz has been there, and yet
they made the postseason last year, especially hitting wise, at
least that whether you're daydreaming on him just being in
a better lineup, I think you can get more numbers
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out of it, or you know, if there's some veteran
leaderships some of these teams like the Dodgers, who you know,
there's a lot of alpha dogs in that locker room.
Like for whatever you're looking for, you think you're the
most talented dude in the room. Go look at sho Hey,
you know you got MVP trophies. How versatile are you?
Go talk to Mooky. You don't talk about consistency in
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the game. Go talk to Freddy about to cross sixty
war saw that on Talking Baseball. Dave Roberts really well
liked and Jose McFly tricked him for info. Once that
Jazz Chisholm to San Francisco. I did a head tilt
because San Francisco's needed something like whether it's Correa or Judge,
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you know, the big signings. They've also done a lot
that before the season. We're like, wow, like this added
up quick with Snell, Chapman, Solaier at the buzzer. My god,
the Robbie Ray trade. There's a sneaky massive offseason. Uh.
In that San Francisco lineup. We always have a little
giggle because you look at it and you know our guy,
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Elliott Ramo says balling out Lamont Way Junior only moves
the needle so much, although he's a contributing player. Patrick Bailey,
Matt Chapman, Micro. It's my running joke for a little
bit was the San Francisco Giants have seven to seven
hole hitters. Jazz Chisholm would be a little spark and
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flash to that organization and lineup that I would buy
into it. So America's GM Jim Bowden won me over
on both fronts on this one. I think Jazz would
be a fit in San Francisco, and I think the
Giants are buying because they have a lot more chips
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on the table, I guess than I assumed. While still
being a part of this messy National League Wildcard race?
What else did I like? And maybe I should do
the other side of this because there were some likes
and dislikes the Cubbies. They've been a problematic team for
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me all year because I wasn't in love with them.
Cubs fans kind of got loud with me a few times.
I've talked about my struggle with their front office that
it seems like they believe in themselves more than the players.
Sometimes someone asked, and they asked hastily if the Cubs
would be selling because they stink their words not mine
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and JB fought back on that AGM JB and he
was like, no, I think I think the Cubs, he says,
I doubt that they sell. In fact, if they have
an opportunity to improve the bullpen, upgrade offensively a catcher
or at the middle of the order of the bat,
I think they will. But I don't see them parting
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with any of their top tier prospects. Man, my JK
sniff test with the Cubs has kind of been on
the nose the past couple of years. I think they're below,
probably below where they should be, Like they shouldn't be
last in the NL. Central, and they are twelve games back,
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and they are a couple days away from there being
some buffer from them really being in last place. The
Cubs cannot be buying even for like you know, we
talk about the two and a half year trades or
the year and a half trades where you get a
guy for next year. I really don't think the Cubs
can be looking at it like that. I think They're
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gonna be much more interesting on the Cody Bellinger front,
which that would be an interesting trade because you might
have to add some player to be named later stuff
if he opts into his contract. That gets funky pretty quick.
I know, we went through the Cubbies the other day.
I think it was talking baseball. They don't have as
many true trade pieces as you think. I do agree
they won't like break up their core because you know,
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him and Augusts on what's looking like a fantastic contract now.
Tyjone is under contract, Seya's under contract, Ian Happ is
under contract for a couple of years. That they believe
in that core, which is fine, and I like a
lot of those guys I just named hell Jamo and
Ian Happ are some of my favorite baseball players. I've
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come across on and off the field, but I don't
know there's something to be said to also like the
core ain't working, and I think they do have a
lot of top prospects on the way. And I've been
saying this a lot lately. They haven't been to a
true postseason since twenty seventeen and that was a very
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different Cubs roster. So I've kind of disagree with America's
GM Jim bouting there, and maybe I'm the melty face.
I like sending that one, and that's kind of how
I feel about the Cubs man because I they should
be running that division in the are running laps around him,
even though they stole their manager. Tough to know what,
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no comment, Keep it moving. Let's see what did I like?
This is a quick one. It was more credit to
the emailer than America's GM, unless he got this right.
Are Nationals? They just called up James Wood. We're hype
for that big man, big man on the field. Three
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six seven boys him, O'Neil Cruz and judge. How about baseball? Huh?
Six seven position players? Used to be a day when
they said that did not work. They found out if
you're big enough and you put that bat on the ball,
it goes little analytics. They said, and I'm with JB
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on this that the Nationals next year. Next year, they've
got some young pitching, they've got some young hitting. You know,
this is a team that has deep wallets. Is Corbyn's
contract up? Didn't we look that up up? And we
were shocked.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think it's either this year or next year. It's
it's done. It's just hard to believe we're.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Here crazy because it feels like we talked about this
is it and we talked about the extra year forever.
So they've got some money coming off the books. I
also left there was a there's a graphic going around
the internet that was the six highest paid pitchers this
year have made six starts. It's like, sure'ser Cole.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, we're beIN h I don't know if Verlanders on
the list.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, but it was. It was one of the slight
head tilt.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Is Robbie Ray making enough to be on there? He
hasn't pitched.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh So they said Lane Thomas was a year and
a half and we talked about Lane Thomas rumors last year.
I don't think he fits their timeline. I mean The
only other thing would be if there would be a
weird Lane Thomas extension that came out that was like
four for eighty and everyone just golf clapped and was like, sure,
I guess he's good.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You guys work for each other. That's nice.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
This worked out right. We took a chance on you.
He came over from the Cardinals. We kind of let
you lead off when you were bad, and it's paid off.
They said again, the writer deserves a credit here, sorry, Jim.
That the Nationals would be a great team to trade
with if you need an outfielder, because they also have
relievers that if you can do the Lane Thomas and
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a reliever trade, whether that's Finnegan or Harvey or whoever
you like down there, that that'd be a great pairing.
Jim gave them Golf Collaps. The team he threw out
the Kansas City Royals. I don't know, I've heard I've
heard crazier things. The only counter to that that about
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En didn't acknowledge in this email, but he did in
the next one, was that the Royals are and it is.
It's funny. This new wild card just creates totally different
scope that the Royals have had a great first half.
They've had moments where they've been one of the best
teams in the AL. They've felt really good out in said,
and it's tough to argue against. He's like, they're probably
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the third place team in the Central. It depends how
you feel about the Twins. The Twins that have kind
of done really well in that division traditionally.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Probably top to bottom. True talent guard dogs have been great.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That it's funny if you're the Royals, who don't have
the biggest farm system right now, like they've called up
all their guys. It was Wit, it was Pascenttino, it
was Melenda's, it was Singer, a couple other pitchers. The
Royals operate a little differently that I could very much
see them getting involved at the deadline. Prospect capital wise,
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they might come up a little thin to some other
teams that, yeah, I wouldn't rules something like that out.
I would say my head tilt in that email was
any team as we start getting closer to the deadline
needs an outfielder. Every team can use a reliever. That
the Nats will be a sexy team to trade with,
and it's I think it's a great year for them
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to trade.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah. I think back on some some moments we've had
talking to Trevor Ploof where he's advocated for like, hey,
like don't fully bottom out or anything at least, whether
that's even not buying, Like good for these young guys
to be in a competitive environment, which they currently are
the one to an eight stretch and they're the fourth
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from last place team in the NL, right, but they're in,
They're in the mix. Well, Like, yeah, I don't I
don't necessarily want to see them bottom out trade everybody,
or I don't see them trading everyone they could. There
was a while earlier in the year thinking selfishly about
the Yankees and that they might need bullpen that I
was like, oh, I hope they do when they trade
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all the relievers, because they have you could kind of
talk yourself into anybody in that group. So I think
some number of their relievers will go.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And other bodies I'll be interested to see as we
find out other teams needs or maybe the injury pops up.
Right handed hitting Lane Thomas outfielder. Uh can be a
top of the lineup guy, could be a middle of
the lineup guy plus a reliever. I like that A lot.
Uh my next note here, this was just me. This
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is separate from the article and it's not really even
about trades. So okay, waken Jake. I had a home
run derby shower thought the other day because they're trying
a new format this year and that's kind of cool,
Like they're always tinkering a little bit, and I think
the biggest problem recently is now that they've just gone
straight clock is guys are just getting gassed that by
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the final round the product is like it's not good.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, and I think it's because it's the dude of
the rule has been like wait till it lands and
just nobody does. Yeah. This is that you get a
max number of swings and bonus swings.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah. We're always tinkerrent, and.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think they like that it's going to eliminate that
conversation and the gast and all that.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I two weird home run derby thoughts that, you know,
depending how silly we get with this in future years.
One was celeb shot where like, you know how players
could take a time out and I still think they
get a time out if a player takes their time
out and they have a teammate who gets one swing
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and if they hit a homer, maybe it's two points
or maybe it's just one point.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know. That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'd watch that teammate gets one swing, and then building
off of that idea was a home run derby tag
team where the guys can just sub in and sub out,
almost running clock, so like it would be Stanton and Judge,
and it'd be like Judge, you go for twelve swings,
you get tired, Stanton comes in. So I don't know,
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it's just a little out. I wasn't planning on having
any of these thoughts, and here I was thinking about
it that I don't know. I think that'd be some
good funk to the home run derby. I think we're
closer to Celeb Shot than Tag Team.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But celeb shot where it's like clock stops. It's like
you can create a little fanfare. Right guy comes up
and they get three swings for you, like for free.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm trying to you know, Gunner is the first guy
to sign up this year. If Gunner's you know, adly
you get two swings, be sick.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Probably you could get some of these guys that don't
really want to do the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right right, like you know, we always say, like Judges.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
He said he's not doing it unless it's back in
New York.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And schedule that MLB. But yeah, I'm trying to think
would be the next Yankees. Yankees have a home run
Derby guy en Route Domingez, if he was sick, if.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
He if he feels like he's good for Sodo's not
going to do it this year, but he did it
just two years ago and said he likes it so
that it fixed his swing that year.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Toto Judge tag team Homern Derby. That's what I'm talking about.
Back to America's GM, just a thought. Cubs not selling.
Talked about my misery with that. NAT's attention, Chaz me
kind of believing in San Francisco. We'll wrap up with
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some pitching and it's both ends of the spectrum. I
will start with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Someone wrote in
and whenever I can talk about warehouse adjacent Gavin Stone,
I love it because Gavin Stone has been killing it
this year. And the question was our team's asking specifically
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for landon nac Gavin Stone or Bobby Miller in potential
trades with the Dodgers. I laughed because the answer was absolutely,
because they're a group of talented young pitchers. I think
my head tilt moment from America's GM was again, this
was a good one for me. I like getting in
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other people's shoes. I like thinking if I was in
the Dodgers front office, what I would be thinking. Think
about the Dodgers farm system that's been stacked for a
bunch of years, and they've made a lot of trades.
They've traded for big pieces. They held on to these guys.
That means they really like these guys and these guys
have made it to the show that they're I don't
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want to say all in on these guys, because for
the right trade or the right piece, you're gonna have
to move something. But the fact that these guys are
the ones that made it to the major league level,
that means the Dodgers held on to them through Max
schures or trade turner trades. You know, they've held on
to these guys through some significant talks. And the other
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part that continued my head tilt, they're paying a lot
of guys. This has been a conversation for us as
Yankee fans, as we convince ourselves that we're signing Juan Soto.
If you've got Soto on whatever, his contract's gonna land
at Judge on whatever contract, his is gonna land at
Garrett Cole on his We know where Judge's contract landed
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Cole in Judge, those are big boy ones. Was that
the highest paid for a pitcher.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And a hitter certainly at the time they signed, right.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yamamoto, I think beat Garrett at least for total money.
Stanton still getting paid some real chunks of kish DJ's contract.
It starts to thin out a little more. Carlos rode On,
that's that's a real contract. Yeah, that we've talked about
the Yankees on talking Yanks being like, hey, if if
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we're gonna sign, if we're gonna sign Juan Soto, then
you need Austin Wells at catcher to be cost fishing
Luise Heal, Clark Schmidt breaking out his young pitchers, Volpi
obviously Di Mingez, like you need these young players to
be a part of it because he just can't pay
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at every position. The payroll adds up pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, Like they we talk about wanting them to do
one of these Braves extensions on Domingez vulpy whatever, get it,
get it done, keep them cheap for longer. Organizational philosophies
like keep them as cheap as they can be until
you have to pay them for real or let them go.
So it kind of makes sense. Yeah, I that they
do these big deals.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I guess for me, even like Landon Knack, who's newer
to the party than the other two. He's had six
starts this year, thirty innings, just a two zero eight.
You know, if Crochet ends up on the table for
the Dodgers, sure you you know, I'd like to think
one of those guys has to get in there, although
they do have other prospects. But I guess in Dodgers' land,
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if you're a Dodgers fan, let me know. But I
I guess for me that was like, oh, like those
guys have kind of passed the point where they would
be big pieces of a trade because they're here. Gavin
Stone might be an all star. Let me double check
the stats.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Got a shot. I mean in I guess not in
the case of Knack, because you just got here and
has been really good six starts, but the other two
that they've like gotten them to the big leagues in
the first place, and like, let them struggle and figure
things out, like Gavinson, last year's numbers ain't pretty thirty one.
Let them figure it out.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
For this year thirty one innings a ninety RA. Last year,
I didn't know a guy like that. This year fifteen
starts at two seven to three. Awesome for him, awesome
for us. Yeah, we need to get on the Gavinstone train,
but on the Collinstone train.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I hope he's in Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I think Texas.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I then calm, He'll probably be in Texas.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Right, that's good, turns into a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Col'll probably be there anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
He ends up places the last note for today as
we get everyone ready for the fourth of July. Make
sure you guys are subscribed and all the fun stuff.
The Toronto Blue Jays, who you know, there was some
Vlad stuff in there. I'm dodging that for now. I
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saw a Vlad Houston rumor, and boy did I puck
her up for a minute. I don't see that happening.
Houston's needs are pitching. They've been hitting enough, but the
Toronto Blue Jays have pitching, which I thought it was interesting.
The original question was about Kevin Gossman going back to
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the Braves. Oddly specific, but fun. Gossman's in a real
tough stretch right now that his e RA is four
seven five. In his recent games, he's been really getting hit.
I texted Jolly and Foolish and I said, what's up
with Kevin Gosman. No response for a little too long,
So screw both of them. And then Foolish said, I
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put Gosman on my foolish top fifty and that's what
got him. He's like, okay, I was hoping for some
actual information from either of you, geeks, and you gave
me nothing, So they're on my shit list. Kevin Gossman
is thirty four years old. He is on the book
the next two years for twenty three million, and he's
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been pitching poorly. That's a tough ask. Remember when we
talked about Verlander and he was done with the Tigers
and Houston got him for free, and then it changed
their whole trajectory as a franchise. I haven't Yeah, I mean,
Gossman's at that point where people wouldn't really be offering
much for him. In fact, they'd probably be asking Toronto
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to eat some of the money, which you know, if
you're Toronto, that risk reward just does seem worth it
unless you think Gossman is completely cooked, which he doesn't
look completely cooked. That's the part that's been thrown me off.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, Like he's had good starts this year.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, he had a couple stretches.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
So I don't think. I don't believe Toronto's of the
mindset like they're gonna like fully redo this thing. Maybe
they are, and then it becomes interesting, But yeah, I
think they're gonna they think sometime the next two years
Gosman will be of use to them for what they'd
get compared to what they'd get back for him trading
him right now.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, just the shot of him being average and not
having to pay off his contract or something like that,
never mind him being potentially good. Uh where Bowden head
tilt Bowden? So maybe it's not an emoji episode. It's
it's America's GM turning my head? He said. However, I
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would have more interest in his teammates, And this is
what threw me off at first, And maybe he just
did this, And no, it's not alphabetical order, he says, Barrios,
Bassett or Kakuchi. If the Blue Jays make them available.
Barrios is on the money or on the books for
very real money, which I mean, we just talked about
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former Cy Young winner Robbie Ray getting traded. That sure,
that could be on the table, but I mean we're
talking through twenty twenty eight. It's basically nineteen mil, nineteen mil,
twenty five, twenty five. We just talked about where Kevin
Gossman is at, and Kevin Gossman had a streak there
that he was one of the best pitchers in baseball.
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Brios has been really good. He had the one hiccup
year in twenty twenty two, so probably need to put
that in my rear view. Last year he was a
three six five. This year he's a three six three. Wow.
Giving up the most homers huh in the AL this
year and baseball I think nineteen Yeah, I guess that
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was my first Like, Jose Barrios isn't getting traded because
this is another case of I think Toronto believes in
themselves the next few years and they want Jose Burrios
to be good. I think it's another case of trade calculator.
Teams aren't gonna give for the four years of Barrios.
Teams aren't gonna give up big prospects because then you
have to pay them.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
And I think I believe Barrios after next year has
an opt out, so or maybe the year after. So
it's like, if that trade works out awesome for you
and you and he's a good version, then he's opting
out of the last two of that. I think. So
memory serves on what his contract is.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
That's where you say Kakuchi has made sense for a
little while now. Final year of his contract ten mils,
so when you're trading for him, you might only have
to pay four of that if you even want to
pay it these days with trades. Has the potential of
being very solid, high strikeouts. He's got the arm talent.
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Last year thirty two starts more strikeouts than innings pitch
to three eight six. This year he's at four eight
more strikeouts than innings pitched. I think he's a little
bit of a pitching coach's dream. Besides the sleepy thing,
remember when that article came out it's sleeps. Was it
like fourteen hours a day or something.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Or at least like the night before his starts just
a little much. It was just a lot of sleep.
It's kind of rude.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, if the Blue Jays stay where they are at
the bottom of the Al East, I would expect you, say,
Kakuchi to go and Okay, so he's performing decently, he's
not killing it. He's making double of what Savali was like.
I don't think you'd have to give up a top
ten prospect?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, straight up, rental.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
And go look at your team's top ten prospects list
year in, year out. How many of them become good
major leaguers.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Go look at your team's top ten prospect lists from
four years ago. It's a fun game to play.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It is a fun game to play for baseball nerds
like us, So go enjoy it. Kakuchi, that's a person
that could be had for a very stomachable price tag.
And then the one to make it full circle, Aaron
Savali to the Brewers. That really, uh hit me in
my gut. He had Chris Bassett to the Brewers and
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that just felt that just felt right. Someone asked, who
do you think the Brewers were trade for, and he said,
let's go with Chris Bassett limited no trade cross clause,
free agent after twenty twenty five, twenty two million per year,
so the Brewers would have to be willing to pay
that next year, but bast.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It gave him a better prospect to eat it all that.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, a steady is as steady does. With Chris Bassett,
that I was a little worried about him because he
got off to a slow start this season. But I
can butterknife that pretty pretty quick because after his two starts,
Chris Bassett this year fifteen starts, eighty eight innings to
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a two seven six era. Chris Bassett's really good. He's
one of those guys that throws like six pitches. So
there's a lot of hitters nowadays that game plan for
like two pitches and try to figure that out. Bassett
with that collection of pitches, how consistent he's been, how
many innings he's eaten, You can mark him in for
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two years. Chris Bassett is the definition of Milwaukee hot.
Like Chris Bassett walks around Milwaukee six ' five, good pitcher,
good bank account. Oh yeah, Chris Bassett. That that was
my final head tilt. We'll see if the Brewers go
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that direction, uh, Because again they're so good at coaching
pitching and bringing up young guys that them paying twenty
two million for Chris Bassett next year. That might not
be appealing to them as an organization. It's like we
talked about with the Giants and trading for Robbie Ray.
That can affect your next grouping of moves and just
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some more Chris Bassett love just because he's really good.
Since twenty twenty one, hundred eighteen games started, which is
close to the max. Looks like he might have missed
a month worth of starts in twenty twenty one. He's
had a three two eight man. He throws innings almost
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seven hundred since then, two hundred last year, a buck
eighty the year before. If he's on the table I
guess my final head tilt for you is with that
money number, I think a big market team Chris Bassett
would have a lot more appeal for where Milwaukee I
don't think they'd want to stomach that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, I don't know if I love the fit in
Milwaukee specifically just because the contract number is in a
weird spot, but in general, to get an ace money
wise at that a guy who can be an ACE
level at that press point, you get a year and
a half, So it's not a long term commitment if
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age catches up or it doesn't go right for one
reason or another.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
I mean, depending depending where he's at coming into the postseason,
it wouldn't be crazy to think about him as a two.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
The easily can be the number two, a game two
starter in a postseason.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Some of these last Yankee rotations heading into the postseason
so per usual. The people in America's GM fuel me
some head tilt moments. There's been a lot of trade
deadline talk on here, and there's gonna be more because
it's July. It's coming up All Star Game. We've got
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a couple of fun episodes lined up too. Should be
a foolish month. I haven't seen Jolly in a while.
Maybe I'll pit those fools against each other for ignoring
my text.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
He loves trade stuff, Prolly loves trade stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
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Speaker 2 (47:10):
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Hello, and welcome to Awaken Jake myself BBD as we
are heading to Fourth of July weekend. Happy fourth, enjoy it.
Be safe. A couple Roman candlefights in my day that
I wish I could have back. Thank God nobody got hurt,
but boy was I scared. Maybe I'll talk about that
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more later. Maybe I won't be smart, have fun, have
a couple good drinks. Why not stay away from the fireworks,
watch them, protect your dogs, put them in a bathtub. Okay,
we are going to go over obviously, America's GM Jim
Bowden has an article. I'm half joking, I'm half not.
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He did some mailbag stuff and I think it's at
the new Angle before I just become his guy. I
guess I'm wearing my cult member T shirt today on
the YouTube, and I think I belonged to the Cult
of Jim. There was a trade that happened Aaron Sava
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to the Milwaukee Brewers. Not a ton to break down there,
but I do think it'll ease into the conversation a
little bit where I don't know if I'm giving out
grades or maybe emoji reaction faces to some of Jim
Bowden's some of Jim Bowden's stances because I you know,
you guys have heard me fall in love with America's
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GM Jim Bowden. There's some a couple interesting points that
got brought up, a couple I disagree with, a couple
I agree with, and a couple that tilted my head.
And you know, that's kind of why I live to
get my head tilted. If you don't know, there's a
trade that happened this morning. Aaron Savali, the sieve Connecticut guy.
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He was traded to the Milwaukee Brewers. Absolutely, they've been
looking for starting pitching help for a while. The twenty
nine year old that has a year and a half
left hasn't been great for Tampa this year. Five ones.
And if you are in the prospect capital world, or
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I guess if you're in the basic prospect capital world,
this is kind of a might be a tough one
for Tampa fans to swallow because last year they traded
for Aaron Savali. The rais right, the Rays are in
it every year. They added Aaron Savali two and a
half years at the time, they traded one of the
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top first base prospects, Kyle man Zardo, to the Cleveland Guardians.
He was called up for a cup of coffee. This
year hasn't done too much. He's still twenty three years old.
We'll see if Kyle Menzardo is a factor in this
season or future seasons for the guard Dogs. Aaron Savali,
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on the other hand, kind of looked. I think when
the trade happened last year, we were like, wow, Guardian
to raise there's two good pitching organizations to be a
part of for the East windsor Connecticut Northeastern grad and
he he was kind of shoving with Cleveland. Uh, he
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had thirteen starts to the tune of a two three
four last year, seventy seven innings pitch. He went to
Tampa and struggled last year and his final ten starts
a five thirty six ERA, So in Tampa he had
a five seventeen ERA over twenty seven starts. In Cleveland
he was a three seven seventy RA guy over seventy
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six starts, So tough for the Sieve. Aaron Savali, who
definitely doesn't like being called that, so if you see him,
don't But yeah, I think it's always interesting as we
head into the scope of trade season of everyone hunting
top prospects and who's gonna get traded. You know, one
of the one of the guys mentioned in Jim Bowden's
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article was Sammy Bissalo, the big catching prospect. I think
he's like a top fifteen prospect. Those guys don't get
traded a lot. Man Like, if you're trading one of
those guys, it's it's for a heavy duty piece, which, hey,
let's see what happens. I mean, if a Garrett Crochet goes,
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that's a guy who's been one of the best pitchers
in the American League. Did like some commentarian notes on it.
But here's the point. Aaron Savali is a starting pitcher
that's getting paid five million dollars this year. It's on
the low end. He's in his arbitration years. There's not
a lot of I mean not a lot of free
agent pitchers that get signed for less than that. He
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is underachieving, so the price tag isn't at his high
value that he got traded at last year. A two
three four, a guy who's twenty eight years old looking
like he's on the up, that you traded for a
top prospect. He got traded for Gregory Barrio. If I
looked at Brewer's Top thirty prospects, expecting to see him
at twenty or so not listed.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Good news, Bad news for you. He's already been moved
to the Ray's Top Prospects list, number nineteen. Okay, so
twenty ish. I don't know, you know, comparing orgs, I
don't know where he was on their list.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Maybe he was thirty one. Either way, the point is
h Gregory barrio So, hey, I'm not a scout. Sometimes
things click for guys. He is a speed player. It
looks like because he only has uh seven minor league
home runs in two hundred and forty five games. He
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does have seventy two stolen bases. But these are his
career minor league stats, which reminder, you know, not a
ton of guys that have worse minor league stats than
their major league stats. Maybe that's an app someday two
sixty four batting average, three to twenty two, on base
A three third, six A six, fifty seven ops. So
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you gotta really pick it. It looks like he does
have the speed. He had thirty two stolen bases in
the minor leagues. I say, why am I giving Gregory
Barrios's scouting report. I don't know, maybe the race sees something.
Maybe this guy will be Jose Cabiero in a couple
of years. The point is to get a MLB serviceable
starting pitcher with some upside who hasn't been pitching that great,
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Like the Brewers got an MLB starter, a guy that
a year ago was viewed as, I don't know, a
good three. I think Aaron Savali we would have said
that's a good potential three starter. Uh So the fact
the Brewers could get that for someone who wasn't on
their top thirty list, potentially the Ray's nineteenth prospect. Now,
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uh just a reminder as deadline season approaches that to
get deals done, if it's not for something high caliber,
high caliber, high caliber, you don't have to put the
chips all in. The fun fact that I read from
America's GM Jim Bowden the Orioles were stoked when they
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traded for Corbin Burns. They didn't give up a top
seven prospect of their Now, I know the Orioles are
playing with a different version of house money than every
other team pretty much, but think about that top seven
Corbyn Burns one year so years the timeline you guys
already know that you're listening to show. And hey, Gregory
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Barrios three twenty five batting average this year seven ninety six. Ops.
The light bulb has clicked. We'll see him tormenting the
Yankees in three years. And good for the Brewers because
they had another player mentioned in this article that I
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was like, Oh, that's such Brewers nation. But Arenzvali is
like dirty Brewers. I like that a lot. Let's get
into it because the article, if you want to read
it on the Athletic is answering thirty MLB trade deadline questions.
We will not be going through them. It was also
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a grab bag of questions to America's GM Jim Bowd
and that they sorted through and tweaked slightly for the
appropriateness of it. And I want to start with the
one that I initially as I was looking for things
to talk about today, the one that got a reaction
out of me. It was about the San Francisco Giants,
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and it was about a player as a fit for them.
Let me start with the Giants. The Giants have kind
of been out of sight, out of mind for me.
If I'm just being honest. The Dodgers are the Dodgers.
The San Diego Padres have been one of the teams
of the last month that everyone's like, yeah, I mean,
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this team traded for Dylan Cec right before the season.
This team added a lot of veterans, some that have
contributed in an amazing way in profar even guys like David
Peralta that I haven't really clicked yet, but at least
you're trying something. And Jackson Merrill remember when I did
rookies not being able to really contribute spoiler, He's our
all jm NL center fielder. So that coming to fruition
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along with the Luisa Rise trade, the first big trade
of the year, the Padres felt all in. We've always
loved their high end talent. Something about shilt seems to
have leveled that team off a little bit. And maybe
it was just getting rid of this whatever happened there
last year. I mean, that would be a really bad,
weird thirty for thirty, just so much talent. The wins
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just never happened until the very end of the season.
It was literally like one week too late. Anyways. The
San Francisco Giants, I mean, I've had them behind the Diamondbacks.
Like I know I have a little bias there, But
the Diamonbacks did it last year where they were under
five hundred in August and turned it on. The Dbacks
have been playing a better brand of baseball. I've talked
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about Monty turning it on. They got Perdomo back for
a bit. Corbyn Carroll had as bad of a start
as he could have. Now they haven't fully kicked in
a gear. But I don't know if you believe if
we put out a general pull, if we went out
on our talking baseball right now and we said, who
do you believe in the rest of the way Diamondbacks
are Giants. It's probably coming back worst case sixty percent,
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Diamondbacks highest seventy five percent. I don't know fan voting,
who knows how that goes down. The point is the
Diamonbacks did it last year. They have a lot of talent.
You believe in the Giants. Ever since that magical season
that was really fueled by incredible bullpen and an mvpsh
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effort from Buster Posey and a couple high performing veterans,
I've had the Giants kind of out of side, out
of mind. I've been looking for landing spots for Matt Chapman.
I mean maybe even my Yankees. And Matt Chapman has
been balling out lately that I've had the Giants soft selling,
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like if they can get something for their pieces. You know,
Matt Chapman's got an opt in contract that if you
could get something for him, I don't know. I had
the Giants selling, and Jim Bowden America's GM on the
pulse of it, he stated they're two and a half
games out of the wildcard spot. Little deceptive because most
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of the National League is although there's starting to be
a gap that's opening up. He said, there's any doubt.
I don't think there's any doubt that they're going to
be buyers at the deadline. So okay, that's a little
more hot to trot than I've been coming in about
the Giants, Like, don't get me wrong, I see the
other side of it, like if they're in the mix,
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this is a team that thought they were in on Korea,
and judge, every time I say that, it feels super backhanded.
I'm sorry, Giants fans, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I agreed to terms.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I thought they were Giants too, so I don't mean
that to come off as rude as it sounds that
the investment Uh Blake Snell, which you know, he's been
banged up and it hasn't been pretty, but he's still
getting paid this year. Uh, they traded for Robbie Ray,
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Like I know, we look at that as face value
and like, hey, Mariners and Giants did a move. They
you know, Robbie Ray's gonna come pitch for them. That's
a lot of money. That's adding one hundred mili. One
hundred mili contract.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I don't know exactly how much is left, but I
think over one hundred for for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So when you think about that Jung Huli out for
the season, that was one hundred mili contract they brought
in so lair at the buzzer, the Giants chips are
really on the table. That if this is where I
love going to a front office's mindset. The San Francisco
Giants see that two and a half games out, they
see their chips on the table, they say, we're still
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in this dance that I think the San Francisco Giants
are going to be trying to buy unless the I
was gonna say that the ceiling drops out the floor
would drop out. That's what would get you so okay.
So that was the first thing that changed my mindset.
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America's GM Jim Bowden got me. So what emoji? Would
that be? Kind of an eyebrow raise? We'll see. Now,
who are they going to add? The name that's thrown
out here? And I believe this is yeah, this is
from Jim and he is following up. There were questions
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about this guy earlier in the article, so he's kind
of continuing the convo a little bit. Jazz Chisholm getting
thrown in the mix. Now we've the Marlins. They're the
only team that we have confirmed is selling. So I
think we've been grabbing onto that. I mean, we just
did some Yes Network stuff that it was like, the
Marlins are the only team that has really sold, they
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will sell more. And Jazz Chism's that kind of a
funky point. He's he's been playing well and mostly he's
been on the field, which has been one of Jazz
Chism's bigger questions. At eighty two games this year, it's
his third most games played in a season, right around
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league average, hitting slightly above fourteen stolen basis, seven caught stealings.
Don't love that Jazz Chishm is a solid, contributing tools
e ballplayer that maybe there's more in there. He's twenty
six years old. We've been sometimes tough on Jazz. There's
been a couple quotes out there that are bizarre. I'll
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throw Jimmy's name in the mix here, but I think
it's just as bizarre that Jazz Chishm has that interview
where he said he never practiced with the team, and
he's playing that off like a cool thing, and it's
kind of like time out. It's been a couple of
years since I played team sports, definitely never approached the
major league level. But you know, I think the Yankees
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tell it, they practice together, they hit together.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think every I know there's not like during the
season like practices like like you think of with like
high school sports.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But it was bizarre. Jazz gets a weird target because
he was the MLB The Show cover athlete. Which did
he deserve it? Does he have a cool name? Yes?
Is he talented?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Are there a lot more it goes into MLB The
Show covers, then people probably assume, yeah, because you're getting
agencies and how much are we going to pay, and
they need to promote the game and all of that that.
You know, we probably get too caught up in that stuff.
But Jazz Chisholm right now is hitting pretty close to
his career numbers. He's a career one oh three ops plus.
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He has a one o four ops plus. This year
he has ten homers fourteen steels. So if you're looking
for a guy that can play some middle infield, America's
GM Jim Bowden says he still thinks his best position
is second base, which is funny because Jazz did tell
us he was gonna win a Gold Glove out there. Hey,
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maybe it will. I'll stop being skeptical.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
The metrics are torn on his center field play, but
potentially acceptable. He grated out very well his the full
year we got to see at second, So I think
a lot of people are excited about that possibility because
he was so good at second.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And well, you know, you could spin that in a
couple different directions. It's a versatility, or is it. He's
not great in centerfield, he's still new to it that Like,
I don't know, I viewed that more as a plus
that he could potentially play some outfield or some second base,
maybe shortstop in a pinch. I think that's a good
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thing for a left handed hitting guy who's twenty six,
who's stolen some bags, who's hit some home runs, who's
getting paid two million dollars this year and is under
team control through twenty twenty six. I think Jazzism would
be on the table. I'd be interested to see if
a team would bite. There have been some whispers, you know,
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about who he is as a person that I don't
know if teams would take a chance on Jazz. We've daydreamed,
and this is we do this in every sport, that
if you fall in the right organization, like whether it's
the NBA and a guy lands on the heat, you're like, okay,
like that, don't be surprised if that guy balls out.
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If it's you know, in baseball, we'd say with a
lot of pitchers, if they show up on the Brewers,
the Rays, the Guardians, the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Lot, I mean a lot of talented players both sides
of the ball, it's like you're one adjustment, one piece
of advice away from it all just clicking. Which Jazz
is certainly at an age where oh that extra judgement
he'll fully go because the talent is very much in there.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And also, like you know, I'm I'm still very much.
I know analytics don't support this, but you know, the
team around you matters. That the Marlins have not been
a talented team. Well, Jazz has been there, and yet
they made the postseason last year, especially hitting wise, at
least that whether you're daydreaming on him just being in
a better lineup, I think you can get more numbers
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out of it, or you know, if there's some veteran
leaderships some of these teams like the Dodgers, who you know,
there's a lot of alpha dogs in that locker room.
Like for whatever you're looking for, you think you're the
most talented dude in the room. Go look at sho Hey,
you know you got MVP trophies. How versatile are you?
Go talk to Mooky. You don't talk about consistency in
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the game. Go talk to Freddy about to cross sixty
war saw that on Talking Baseball. Dave Roberts really well
liked and Jose McFly tricked him for info. Once that
Jazz Chisholm to San Francisco. I did a head tilt
because San Francisco's needed something like whether it's Correa or Judge,
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you know, the big signings. They've also done a lot
that before the season. We're like, wow, like this added
up quick with Snell, Chapman, Solaier at the buzzer. My god,
the Robbie Ray trade. There's a sneaky massive offseason. Uh.
In that San Francisco lineup. We always have a little
giggle because you look at it and you know our guy,
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Elliott Ramo says balling out Lamont Way Junior only moves
the needle so much, although he's a contributing player. Patrick Bailey,
Matt Chapman, Micro. It's my running joke for a little
bit was the San Francisco Giants have seven to seven
hole hitters. Jazz Chisholm would be a little spark and
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flash to that organization and lineup that I would buy
into it. So America's GM Jim Bowden won me over
on both fronts on this one. I think Jazz would
be a fit in San Francisco, and I think the
Giants are buying because they have a lot more chips
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on the table, I guess than I assumed. While still
being a part of this messy National League Wildcard race?
What else did I like? And maybe I should do
the other side of this because there were some likes
and dislikes the Cubbies. They've been a problematic team for
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me all year because I wasn't in love with them.
Cubs fans kind of got loud with me a few times.
I've talked about my struggle with their front office that
it seems like they believe in themselves more than the players.
Sometimes someone asked, and they asked hastily if the Cubs
would be selling because they stink their words not mine
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and JB fought back on that AGM JB and he
was like, no, I think I think the Cubs, he says,
I doubt that they sell. In fact, if they have
an opportunity to improve the bullpen, upgrade offensively a catcher
or at the middle of the order of the bat,
I think they will. But I don't see them parting
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with any of their top tier prospects. Man, my JK
sniff test with the Cubs has kind of been on
the nose the past couple of years. I think they're below,
probably below where they should be, Like they shouldn't be
last in the NL. Central, and they are twelve games back,
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and they are a couple days away from there being
some buffer from them really being in last place. The
Cubs cannot be buying even for like you know, we
talk about the two and a half year trades or
the year and a half trades where you get a
guy for next year. I really don't think the Cubs
can be looking at it like that. I think They're
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gonna be much more interesting on the Cody Bellinger front,
which that would be an interesting trade because you might
have to add some player to be named later stuff
if he opts into his contract. That gets funky pretty quick.
I know, we went through the Cubbies the other day.
I think it was talking baseball. They don't have as
many true trade pieces as you think. I do agree
they won't like break up their core because you know,
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him and Augusts on what's looking like a fantastic contract now.
Tyjone is under contract, Seya's under contract, Ian Happ is
under contract for a couple of years. That they believe
in that core, which is fine, and I like a
lot of those guys I just named hell Jamo and
Ian Happ are some of my favorite baseball players. I've
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come across on and off the field, but I don't
know there's something to be said to also like the
core ain't working, and I think they do have a
lot of top prospects on the way. And I've been
saying this a lot lately. They haven't been to a
true postseason since twenty seventeen and that was a very
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different Cubs roster. So I've kind of disagree with America's
GM Jim bouting there, and maybe I'm the melty face.
I like sending that one, and that's kind of how
I feel about the Cubs man because I they should
be running that division in the are running laps around him,
even though they stole their manager. Tough to know what,
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no comment, Keep it moving. Let's see what did I like?
This is a quick one. It was more credit to
the emailer than America's GM, unless he got this right.
Are Nationals? They just called up James Wood. We're hype
for that big man, big man on the field. Three
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six seven boys him, O'Neil Cruz and judge. How about baseball? Huh?
Six seven position players? Used to be a day when
they said that did not work. They found out if
you're big enough and you put that bat on the ball,
it goes little analytics. They said, and I'm with JB
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on this that the Nationals next year. Next year, they've
got some young pitching, they've got some young hitting. You know,
this is a team that has deep wallets. Is Corbyn's
contract up? Didn't we look that up up? And we
were shocked.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think it's either this year or next year. It's
it's done. It's just hard to believe we're.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Here crazy because it feels like we talked about this
is it and we talked about the extra year forever.
So they've got some money coming off the books. I
also left there was a there's a graphic going around
the internet that was the six highest paid pitchers this
year have made six starts. It's like, sure'ser Cole.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, we're beIN h I don't know if Verlanders on
the list.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, but it was. It was one of the slight
head tilt.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Is Robbie Ray making enough to be on there? He
hasn't pitched.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh So they said Lane Thomas was a year and
a half and we talked about Lane Thomas rumors last year.
I don't think he fits their timeline. I mean The
only other thing would be if there would be a
weird Lane Thomas extension that came out that was like
four for eighty and everyone just golf clapped and was like, sure,
I guess he's good.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You guys work for each other. That's nice.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
This worked out right. We took a chance on you.
He came over from the Cardinals. We kind of let
you lead off when you were bad, and it's paid off.
They said again, the writer deserves a credit here, sorry, Jim.
That the Nationals would be a great team to trade
with if you need an outfielder, because they also have
relievers that if you can do the Lane Thomas and
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a reliever trade, whether that's Finnegan or Harvey or whoever
you like down there, that that'd be a great pairing.
Jim gave them Golf Collaps. The team he threw out
the Kansas City Royals. I don't know, I've heard I've
heard crazier things. The only counter to that that about
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En didn't acknowledge in this email, but he did in
the next one, was that the Royals are and it is.
It's funny. This new wild card just creates totally different
scope that the Royals have had a great first half.
They've had moments where they've been one of the best
teams in the AL. They've felt really good out in said,
and it's tough to argue against. He's like, they're probably
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the third place team in the Central. It depends how
you feel about the Twins. The Twins that have kind
of done really well in that division traditionally.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Probably top to bottom. True talent guard dogs have been great.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That it's funny if you're the Royals, who don't have
the biggest farm system right now, like they've called up
all their guys. It was Wit, it was Pascenttino, it
was Melenda's, it was Singer, a couple other pitchers. The
Royals operate a little differently that I could very much
see them getting involved at the deadline. Prospect capital wise,
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they might come up a little thin to some other
teams that, yeah, I wouldn't rules something like that out.
I would say my head tilt in that email was
any team as we start getting closer to the deadline
needs an outfielder. Every team can use a reliever. That
the Nats will be a sexy team to trade with,
and it's I think it's a great year for them
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to trade.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah. I think back on some some moments we've had
talking to Trevor Ploof where he's advocated for like, hey,
like don't fully bottom out or anything at least, whether
that's even not buying, Like good for these young guys
to be in a competitive environment, which they currently are
the one to an eight stretch and they're the fourth
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from last place team in the NL, right, but they're in,
They're in the mix. Well, Like, yeah, I don't I
don't necessarily want to see them bottom out trade everybody,
or I don't see them trading everyone they could. There
was a while earlier in the year thinking selfishly about
the Yankees and that they might need bullpen that I
was like, oh, I hope they do when they trade
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all the relievers, because they have you could kind of
talk yourself into anybody in that group. So I think
some number of their relievers will go.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And other bodies I'll be interested to see as we
find out other teams needs or maybe the injury pops up.
Right handed hitting Lane Thomas outfielder. Uh can be a
top of the lineup guy, could be a middle of
the lineup guy plus a reliever. I like that A lot.
Uh my next note here, this was just me. This
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is separate from the article and it's not really even
about trades. So okay, waken Jake. I had a home
run derby shower thought the other day because they're trying
a new format this year and that's kind of cool,
Like they're always tinkering a little bit, and I think
the biggest problem recently is now that they've just gone
straight clock is guys are just getting gassed that by
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the final round the product is like it's not good.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, and I think it's because it's the dude of
the rule has been like wait till it lands and
just nobody does. Yeah. This is that you get a
max number of swings and bonus swings.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah. We're always tinkerrent, and.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I think they like that it's going to eliminate that
conversation and the gast and all that.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I two weird home run derby thoughts that, you know,
depending how silly we get with this in future years.
One was celeb shot where like, you know how players
could take a time out and I still think they
get a time out if a player takes their time
out and they have a teammate who gets one swing
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and if they hit a homer, maybe it's two points
or maybe it's just one point.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know. That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'd watch that teammate gets one swing, and then building
off of that idea was a home run derby tag
team where the guys can just sub in and sub out,
almost running clock, so like it would be Stanton and Judge,
and it'd be like Judge, you go for twelve swings,
you get tired, Stanton comes in. So I don't know,
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it's just a little out. I wasn't planning on having
any of these thoughts, and here I was thinking about
it that I don't know. I think that'd be some
good funk to the home run derby. I think we're
closer to Celeb Shot than Tag Team.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But celeb shot where it's like clock stops. It's like
you can create a little fanfare. Right guy comes up
and they get three swings for you, like for free.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm trying to you know, Gunner is the first guy
to sign up this year. If Gunner's you know, adly
you get two swings, be sick.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Probably you could get some of these guys that don't
really want to do the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right right, like you know, we always say, like Judges.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
He said he's not doing it unless it's back in
New York.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And schedule that MLB. But yeah, I'm trying to think
would be the next Yankees. Yankees have a home run
Derby guy en Route Domingez, if he was sick, if.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
He if he feels like he's good for Sodo's not
going to do it this year, but he did it
just two years ago and said he likes it so
that it fixed his swing that year.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Toto Judge tag team Homern Derby. That's what I'm talking about.
Back to America's GM, just a thought. Cubs not selling.
Talked about my misery with that. NAT's attention, Chaz me
kind of believing in San Francisco. We'll wrap up with
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some pitching and it's both ends of the spectrum. I
will start with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Someone wrote in
and whenever I can talk about warehouse adjacent Gavin Stone,
I love it because Gavin Stone has been killing it
this year. And the question was our team's asking specifically
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for landon nac Gavin Stone or Bobby Miller in potential
trades with the Dodgers. I laughed because the answer was absolutely,
because they're a group of talented young pitchers. I think
my head tilt moment from America's GM was again, this
was a good one for me. I like getting in
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other people's shoes. I like thinking if I was in
the Dodgers front office, what I would be thinking. Think
about the Dodgers farm system that's been stacked for a
bunch of years, and they've made a lot of trades.
They've traded for big pieces. They held on to these guys.
That means they really like these guys and these guys
have made it to the show that they're I don't
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want to say all in on these guys, because for
the right trade or the right piece, you're gonna have
to move something. But the fact that these guys are
the ones that made it to the major league level,
that means the Dodgers held on to them through Max
schures or trade turner trades. You know, they've held on
to these guys through some significant talks. And the other
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part that continued my head tilt, they're paying a lot
of guys. This has been a conversation for us as
Yankee fans, as we convince ourselves that we're signing Juan Soto.
If you've got Soto on whatever, his contract's gonna land
at Judge on whatever contract, his is gonna land at
Garrett Cole on his We know where Judge's contract landed
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Cole in Judge, those are big boy ones. Was that
the highest paid for a pitcher.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And a hitter certainly at the time they signed, right.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yamamoto, I think beat Garrett at least for total money.
Stanton still getting paid some real chunks of kish DJ's contract.
It starts to thin out a little more. Carlos rode On,
that's that's a real contract. Yeah, that we've talked about
the Yankees on talking Yanks being like, hey, if if
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we're gonna sign, if we're gonna sign Juan Soto, then
you need Austin Wells at catcher to be cost fishing
Luise Heal, Clark Schmidt breaking out his young pitchers, Volpi
obviously Di Mingez, like you need these young players to
be a part of it because he just can't pay
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at every position. The payroll adds up pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, Like they we talk about wanting them to do
one of these Braves extensions on Domingez vulpy whatever, get it,
get it done, keep them cheap for longer. Organizational philosophies
like keep them as cheap as they can be until
you have to pay them for real or let them go.
So it kind of makes sense. Yeah, I that they
do these big deals.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I guess for me, even like Landon Knack, who's newer
to the party than the other two. He's had six
starts this year, thirty innings, just a two zero eight.
You know, if Crochet ends up on the table for
the Dodgers, sure you you know, I'd like to think
one of those guys has to get in there, although
they do have other prospects. But I guess in Dodgers' land,
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if you're a Dodgers fan, let me know. But I
I guess for me that was like, oh, like those
guys have kind of passed the point where they would
be big pieces of a trade because they're here. Gavin
Stone might be an all star. Let me double check
the stats.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Got a shot. I mean in I guess not in
the case of Knack, because you just got here and
has been really good six starts, but the other two
that they've like gotten them to the big leagues in
the first place, and like, let them struggle and figure
things out, like Gavinson, last year's numbers ain't pretty thirty one.
Let them figure it out.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
For this year thirty one innings a ninety RA. Last year,
I didn't know a guy like that. This year fifteen
starts at two seven to three. Awesome for him, awesome
for us. Yeah, we need to get on the Gavinstone train,
but on the Collinstone train.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I hope he's in Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I think Texas.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I then calm, He'll probably be in Texas.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Right, that's good, turns into a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Col'll probably be there anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
He ends up places the last note for today as
we get everyone ready for the fourth of July. Make
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The Toronto Blue Jays, who you know, there was some
Vlad stuff in there. I'm dodging that for now. I
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saw a Vlad Houston rumor, and boy did I puck
her up for a minute. I don't see that happening.
Houston's needs are pitching. They've been hitting enough, but the
Toronto Blue Jays have pitching, which I thought it was interesting.
The original question was about Kevin Gossman going back to
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the Braves. Oddly specific, but fun. Gossman's in a real
tough stretch right now that his e RA is four
seven five. In his recent games, he's been really getting hit.
I texted Jolly and Foolish and I said, what's up
with Kevin Gosman. No response for a little too long,
So screw both of them. And then Foolish said, I
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put Gosman on my foolish top fifty and that's what
got him. He's like, okay, I was hoping for some
actual information from either of you, geeks, and you gave
me nothing, So they're on my shit list. Kevin Gossman
is thirty four years old. He is on the book
the next two years for twenty three million, and he's
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been pitching poorly. That's a tough ask. Remember when we
talked about Verlander and he was done with the Tigers
and Houston got him for free, and then it changed
their whole trajectory as a franchise. I haven't Yeah, I mean,
Gossman's at that point where people wouldn't really be offering
much for him. In fact, they'd probably be asking Toronto
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to eat some of the money, which you know, if
you're Toronto, that risk reward just does seem worth it
unless you think Gossman is completely cooked, which he doesn't
look completely cooked. That's the part that's been thrown me off.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, Like he's had good starts this year.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, he had a couple stretches.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
So I don't think. I don't believe Toronto's of the
mindset like they're gonna like fully redo this thing. Maybe
they are, and then it becomes interesting, But yeah, I
think they're gonna they think sometime the next two years
Gosman will be of use to them for what they'd
get compared to what they'd get back for him trading
him right now.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, just the shot of him being average and not
having to pay off his contract or something like that,
never mind him being potentially good. Uh where Bowden head
tilt Bowden? So maybe it's not an emoji episode. It's
it's America's GM turning my head? He said. However, I
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would have more interest in his teammates, And this is
what threw me off at first, And maybe he just
did this, And no, it's not alphabetical order, he says, Barrios,
Bassett or Kakuchi. If the Blue Jays make them available.
Barrios is on the money or on the books for
very real money, which I mean, we just talked about
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former Cy Young winner Robbie Ray getting traded. That sure,
that could be on the table, but I mean we're
talking through twenty twenty eight. It's basically nineteen mil, nineteen mil,
twenty five, twenty five. We just talked about where Kevin
Gossman is at, and Kevin Gossman had a streak there
that he was one of the best pitchers in baseball.
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Brios has been really good. He had the one hiccup
year in twenty twenty two, so probably need to put
that in my rear view. Last year he was a
three six five. This year he's a three six three. Wow.
Giving up the most homers huh in the AL this
year and baseball I think nineteen Yeah, I guess that
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was my first Like, Jose Barrios isn't getting traded because
this is another case of I think Toronto believes in
themselves the next few years and they want Jose Burrios
to be good. I think it's another case of trade calculator.
Teams aren't gonna give for the four years of Barrios.
Teams aren't gonna give up big prospects because then you
have to pay them.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
And I think I believe Barrios after next year has
an opt out, so or maybe the year after. So
it's like, if that trade works out awesome for you
and you and he's a good version, then he's opting
out of the last two of that. I think. So
memory serves on what his contract is.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
That's where you say Kakuchi has made sense for a
little while now. Final year of his contract ten mils,
so when you're trading for him, you might only have
to pay four of that if you even want to
pay it these days with trades. Has the potential of
being very solid, high strikeouts. He's got the arm talent.
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Last year thirty two starts more strikeouts than innings pitch
to three eight six. This year he's at four eight
more strikeouts than innings pitched. I think he's a little
bit of a pitching coach's dream. Besides the sleepy thing,
remember when that article came out it's sleeps. Was it
like fourteen hours a day or something.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Or at least like the night before his starts just
a little much. It was just a lot of sleep.
It's kind of rude.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, if the Blue Jays stay where they are at
the bottom of the Al East, I would expect you, say,
Kakuchi to go and Okay, so he's performing decently, he's
not killing it. He's making double of what Savali was like.
I don't think you'd have to give up a top
ten prospect?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, straight up, rental.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
And go look at your team's top ten prospects list
year in, year out. How many of them become good
major leaguers.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Go look at your team's top ten prospect lists from
four years ago. It's a fun game to play.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It is a fun game to play for baseball nerds
like us, So go enjoy it. Kakuchi, that's a person
that could be had for a very stomachable price tag.
And then the one to make it full circle, Aaron
Savali to the Brewers. That really, uh hit me in
my gut. He had Chris Bassett to the Brewers and
(43:21):
that just felt that just felt right. Someone asked, who
do you think the Brewers were trade for, and he said,
let's go with Chris Bassett limited no trade cross clause,
free agent after twenty twenty five, twenty two million per year,
so the Brewers would have to be willing to pay
that next year, but bast.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It gave him a better prospect to eat it all that.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, a steady is as steady does. With Chris Bassett,
that I was a little worried about him because he
got off to a slow start this season. But I
can butterknife that pretty pretty quick because after his two starts,
Chris Bassett this year fifteen starts, eighty eight innings to
(44:05):
a two seven six era. Chris Bassett's really good. He's
one of those guys that throws like six pitches. So
there's a lot of hitters nowadays that game plan for
like two pitches and try to figure that out. Bassett
with that collection of pitches, how consistent he's been, how
many innings he's eaten, You can mark him in for
(44:26):
two years. Chris Bassett is the definition of Milwaukee hot.
Like Chris Bassett walks around Milwaukee six ' five, good pitcher,
good bank account. Oh yeah, Chris Bassett. That that was
my final head tilt. We'll see if the Brewers go
(44:47):
that direction, uh, Because again they're so good at coaching
pitching and bringing up young guys that them paying twenty
two million for Chris Bassett next year. That might not
be appealing to them as an organization. It's like we
talked about with the Giants and trading for Robbie Ray.
That can affect your next grouping of moves and just
(45:11):
some more Chris Bassett love just because he's really good.
Since twenty twenty one, hundred eighteen games started, which is
close to the max. Looks like he might have missed
a month worth of starts in twenty twenty one. He's
had a three two eight man. He throws innings almost
(45:31):
seven hundred since then, two hundred last year, a buck
eighty the year before. If he's on the table I
guess my final head tilt for you is with that
money number, I think a big market team Chris Bassett
would have a lot more appeal for where Milwaukee I
don't think they'd want to stomach that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, I don't know if I love the fit in
Milwaukee specifically just because the contract number is in a
weird spot, but in general, to get an ace money
wise at that a guy who can be an ACE
level at that press point, you get a year and
a half, So it's not a long term commitment if
(46:14):
age catches up or it doesn't go right for one
reason or another.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
I mean, depending depending where he's at coming into the postseason,
it wouldn't be crazy to think about him as a two.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
The easily can be the number two, a game two
starter in a postseason.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Some of these last Yankee rotations heading into the postseason
so per usual. The people in America's GM fuel me
some head tilt moments. There's been a lot of trade
deadline talk on here, and there's gonna be more because
it's July. It's coming up All Star Game. We've got
(46:50):
a couple of fun episodes lined up too. Should be
a foolish month. I haven't seen Jolly in a while.
Maybe I'll pit those fools against each other for ignoring
my text.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
He loves trade stuff, Prolly loves trade stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Hey, have a fun weekend, be safe and now enough
bebes tell him about Dan Weaken.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
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