July 24, 2024 • 48 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, the guys discuss Paul Finebaum's comments regarding Deion Sanders being a perfect fit for USC. And Senior NFL reporter Albert Breer stops by to break down Bill Belichick turning down the San Francisco 49ers, and the possibility of the NFL extending the regular season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I had a story yesterday. It was in the Washington
Post and the NFL Players Association got together with writers, reporters,
editors from the Washington Post talking about the possibility of
an eighteen game schedule, and I thought, Okay, this is
interesting that it comes out, and a lot of times
this story comes out, so both sides can kind of
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gather information here. How is the reaction going to be.
What's the reaction going to be? What are the players
going to say? Owners, GMS, coaches, everybody will have an opinion.
Because now you can bring that up. You're going to
have columns that are written on this. How can you
talk about player safety? And then you want to add
an eighteen game schedule? I agree, don't tell me about
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player safety if you want to add another game here.
But it's going to happen eventually. The question is how
do you fast track this? How do you expedite this?
Go back to the college football playoffs? Remember that mess
when I had the audacity to say, look, they're going
to move this up a couple of years. They got
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a contract. Yeah, they have a lottery ticket as well.
They broke the contract. As I reported, they were going
to break the contract because they realized how much money
would be made if you had a twelve team playoff.
All of a sudden you start to see numbers. Then
all of a sudden, you go, well, how do we
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have an addendum to that contract? How do we break
that contract? Are we going to be waiting until twenty
thirty when the collective Bargain Agreement is up? I don't
think so. But I did reach out to two sources
this morning and they basically said the same thing. I'll
paraphrase some of the things that I got, and it
had to do with posturing. A lot of posturing going on.
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Can't go to eighteen until well. They asked the players
what they want. They can ask for early negotiations now
the players, from what I'm told, it would have to
be a massive, massive offer, And from what I'm told,
players generally don't like the idea. Although I don't know
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if I believe in that, because if you can add
another paycheck here, the clock is ticking on how long
your career is. But posturing is the word that I
got from two sources on this that they don't expect
anything serious in terms of a discussion for a while,
but it came out yesterday. We have more than a
month before the season starts. Camp has opened up, so
(02:39):
now you have a topic. Now you can ask a question. Hey,
you want to go to Jets camp. You don't want
to ask about Aaron Rodgers' Egyptian vacation. You can ask
him about an eighteen game schedule or the San Francisco
forty nine ers. Instead of asking about Brandon Ayuk, you're
gonna ask about what about an eighteen game schedule? Who's
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the player rep for these teams? And asking them what
they think it's going to happen. The question is does
it happen before the Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in twenty thirty.
I would say they'll probably expedite this and that they'll
have Now I ask, okay, do you have to break
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a contract? They said, you can have an addendum to
a contract. But this is a story that's there. We're
not going to be surprised that they go to eighteen.
When we got to seventeen, I was told, you know,
we're going to eighteen. The question is when we're going
to eighteen. It's not a question of if but when
it's just like the college football playoffs four teams, Hey,
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what if we had twelve? What if we actually use
the bowl games that the bowl games would actually mean more?
How about this where you would go, the Orange Bowl
winner is going to play in the Sugar Bowl. So
now we're going to watch the Orange Bowl instead of
just oh that game and it doesn't mean anything, and
everybody goes away with some nice parting gifts. You've got
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to follow the money here. That's what's going on in
college athletics. It's all about the money. In the NFL,
they they're the standard bearer. It's all about money. Remember
college football was going to eight and I said, no, no, no,
they're going to twelve. They're going to twelve because they
did the math. The NFL, the NFL Players Association, they've
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done the math. They know an extra game, Now what's
that going to mean? What's that going to mean for
the networks? Does somebody bid even more? It comes down
to the money aspect. What do the players get, what
do the players want? And then how many more games
they are going to be international games? Because when we
went to seventeen, I was told this makes it so
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much easier to say to an owner, we're going to
have that game in another country. We're going to let
you have that. Whether it's Germany or it's Brazil. You
can have your fan base, you can have your game there,
and you know it's a home away from home game.
You're going to be able to set up your merchandise.
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That's going to be your other city, your other country.
And the owners, of course love that because it's once
again all about money, all right. Eight seven seven to three,
DP show email address, the dpat Danpatrick dot com twitter
handle at dp show. Some Olympic events do begin today
opening ceremonies or Fridays. You have soccer and rugby. I
(05:27):
think surfing is in Tahaiti. Whoa, I think they're doing
surfing in ta Heati, not in Paris. No, it would
be kind of tough to do surfing in Paris, but Tahati.
So they have soccer and rugby they have to kind
of play yes time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Is that insulting or is that just because of the
scheduling they have to do that before the opening ceremony
even begins.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
That there's games underway some of them seems wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, I think there's more matches, more games. They have
to spread it out a little bit more. You have
to be fair to the athletes. But I mean, it's
kind of like when you go to the Oscars luncheon
and then somebody gets their Academy award at the luncheon.
They don't even get that later that night, you know,
during the you know, the awards ceremony. Paul Skeens pitched
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great again last night, got his first career loss. Standing
ovation in Pittsburgh. NFL training camps are open and the
forty nine ers offered Bill Belichick a coaching gig. Okay,
got my attention with that, you know, the Niners dealing
with Brandon Ayuk and then apparently Kyle Shanahan reached down
to Bill Belichick and said, any job you want, we'll
(06:33):
have that clip from him coming up here in a
little bit. Seton what is the poll question today or
at least what are we going to go with? First hour?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah, we got a.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Couple that were kicking around. We could start with the
NFL adding an eighteenth game. Do you feel like that's
going to be within the next two years or post
two years.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I would say post two years, it'll be like three
or more. Yes, well, okay, so won't be this season
twenty four, They wouldn't do it in twenty five. I
don't think. No, I don't know. I don't know if
you could kind of. I don't know the logistics of
trying to get an eighteen game schedule and how that
(07:15):
works out with stadiums and bye weeks and travel and.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Do you think it has more to do with bye
weeks and travel or who's going to pay the most
to get that?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, it could be that too, because if I'm the NFL,
I want to keep it out there and just say, hey,
who's interested. Who would like to pony up extra money
for a football game or two? Remember when Peacock spent
over one hundred million dollars for a playoff game and
people said, why would you do that? Oh, you're going
(07:45):
to lose viewership. It was a smash hit for Peacock.
Smash it. This is what Amazon. I mean, You're going
to have all of these streaming services go, hey, I'll
pony up the money there. That's what the NFL wants. Yes,
will it be while we're doing this show? Yes, I
would say by twenty twenty seven, So twenty five twenty
(08:08):
twenty six. Is it the end of twenty twenty seven
or going into twenty two, going into twenty twenty seven?
How's that? So we would be here until Christmas Eve
of twenty twenty seven. They would have an eighteen game.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Schedule, so this would be your your calling it quit
going into twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It would be just before twenty twenty yes, right.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Yes, so we would have that twenty twenty seven fall. Yes,
of possibly this eighteenth game, we would have probably what
fifteen games maybe during that season?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Interesting? Yeah, yes too for our.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Last super Bowl Week could be President's Week of Shows
for an unprecedented time of the year, like third week
of February.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
We could be doing our last super Bowl Week of shows.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, we'll be off the air.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But if it's if it's the twenty six season into
and games or played the super Bowls played in twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Seven, I'm retiring December twenty fourth or twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Right, So we couldn't do a Super Bowl Week show
in twenty twenty eight. But I thought it was the
twenty twenty sixth season and we would do super Bowl
Week February of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Well, You're still not retired for ten months.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yet I might retire right now. Understandable most likely to
cause you to retire. God, am I doing the math.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Throm If it's the twenty twenty six season. The Super
Bowls played in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But it'll be twenty twenty seven season.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I thought I thought it was a twenty twenty six
sees they could do it as early as that possible.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, I said twenty twenty seven, and I'm retiring into it.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, then that would not factor into what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
For twenty seven to twenty twenty six, twenty twenty twenty
sis inch weekend.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, I can't get this done in the next two years.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
We'd have to take at least three years for them
to just he just ask me.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I don't know, just trying to do a poll question
like I'm supposed to.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Let's not very fast tracked. If it's gonna take at
least three years to get this figure.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Out, I'm supposed to be thirty thirty Compared to that,
it's fester that it'd be twenty thirty one by the
time they enacted this, so that would be a little faster.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Herry on.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
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free shipping. All right, So that's one pole question.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Wef Todd did send in one. Actually, this is really
funny because I think his sometimes his answers to his
own pole questions are really cracked me up. But there
was a story of the Canadian women's soccer team using
drones to fly over and spy on a practice.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, I saw the headline what we know about Canada
flying drones over Olympic soccer practices. The Canadian Olympic Committee
announced Tuesday it's sent home an assistant coach and an
analyst with the Canada's soccer club after accusations of spying
on New Zealand. So this is the women's team. Didn't
(11:20):
Canada win the gold last time around? The women? I
think they did. Yeah, I think they wanted penalties.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Canada was so innocent, nice and neutral, had they become
so terrible. What a terrible thing to do.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I don't know if this indicts the entire.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Went rogue, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Everybody was all in on that, but for someone to
think that that would be remotely excitable.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
How are we going to do today? How do you think?
We're thirteen minutes in and I'm really starting to question
how are going to do it? Okay, yes, yes, just.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
To give Canada a fair shake. The assistant coach that
was accused of this is British, not Canadian.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Now it makes sense, yes a lot. Now it makes sense.
All right. So they had two incidents of flying the
drone over where the two teams play tomorrow. Uh, the
head coach has made a decision not to coach in
that Thursday game. Here's my favorite Canada soccer staff undergo
(12:24):
mandatory ethics training.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, like right before, like today, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Know when, as soon as today. You know, all you
have to do is go into the ethics meeting and say,
don't use a drone over somebody's practice session. Okay, okay dismissed.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Yes, well, I'm reading Todd's pole question here flying a
drone over an Olympic teams practice in order to gain
an advantage. Is dot dot dot dot a brilliant use
of modern technology? Okay, if used sparingly or cheating on
an unacceptable I okay, if you sparingly?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Is don't invade every problem?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Funny, don't use several drones?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Maybe once?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And you wait, you just indicted Canada and now you're saying,
you know, if you use it sparingly.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
We pass around there, like you know, once or twice,
but don't have like a whole fleet of them overhead
every day of the practice.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Two incidents there? Do they need to do that with
New Zealand? But the coach don't sleep on New Zealand? Yeah?
Uh so the coach didn't get to coach on Thursday
opening match, and uh, I guess they sent home a
couple of staffers there.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Repression drone on and on about this story that somebody
ever fixed it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Should Wow, damn, we're fifteen minutes in.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's gonna be a long day for you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know if I can do it. I don't know.
I don't blame you. Gotta admit, what is the over
under where I just walk out today? If I said
two and a half hours anybody got the over PAULI.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
It doesn't have to be you the leaves.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It could be a mass exodus. Then it's just Todd
sitting over here somewhere.
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unless he has a truly great I know you're gonna
make it to Albert for sure, because you wouldn't leave
him hanging with us idiots after that. Depending on how
that goes, it's really anyone's guess.
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Speaker 5 (15:41):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Look, who's back, our favorite Monday morning quarterback. Senior NFL
reporter a Ohio state apologist, Albert Breer, back on the program.
How are you, Albert?
Speaker 10 (15:52):
I'm good? How you doing?
Speaker 11 (15:53):
I don't know if apologists is the right term. Maybe realist?
Speaker 12 (15:57):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Three years?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, all right? If he doesn't beat Michigan this year,
what happens?
Speaker 11 (16:06):
Yeah? I think you're right to bring up the different
circumstance now, where you know, we've all had that thought
in our head, like.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
What would like would you what would it feel like
to win.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
A national championship if he didn't beat Michigan, And that
always seemed unrealistic because generally, the team that loses that game.
Now there's been exceptions, but generally the team that loses
that game is out of the race for the national title.
That's not the case anymore. So I think it's a
little hard to answer that question. But you know, I think,
(16:38):
you know, like you look at the resources that that
have been sunk into this year, the amount of guys
that are coming back the three year losing straight to Michigan,
and even like the availability of somebody like Mike Vrabel,
which like if the season doesn't go the right way,
you know how these things can work. Guys can hover
over certain jobs, and you know the same way Jim
Harball once upon a time hovered over the Michigan job.
(17:00):
You know, I think Mike Vrabel could wind up hovering
over the Ohio State job. Just like a lot of
things at work. To put a lot of pressure on
Ryan going into the year, I think he's going to
do a great job. I think on balance, outside of
those three Saturdays, he has done a really good job.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
But there's no question there's a ton of pressure on him.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Plus if you don't meet Michigan this year and Jim
Harball is not even there, like you know it, just
like Sharon Moore is your new head coach there. But yeah,
a lot of pressure. I'm trying to think if there's
a coach who has more pressure on him this year,
I guess Caitlin de boor feel, you know, taking over
for Nick Saban. Can you think of any Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
Mike I was gonna say Mike McCarthy, I mean Nick
Sirianni in Philadelphia? I think one, Yeah, you know, and
I think that pressure was underscored by like we were
talking about him being fired twelve months after he made
the Super Bowl and they got rid of both of
his coordinators. And so now he's working with two guys
who won, who's had like you know, designs on being
(18:02):
a head coach and who's you know, interviewed for a
boatload of jobs, and you know, in Kellen Moore in
offense then on defense, Pctangio who you know, had a
little bit of a sideways experience last summer and and
was a head coach before. You know, it's just I think,
you know, you you you look at the circumstances facing
Sirianni there, the amount of money they've got sunk into
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this team, and the way that they've spent cash over cap,
and how how close they got two years ago, and
how ownership feels about that roster, and how there's a
track record there of having a quick trigger finger. They
did with Doug Peterson. You know, you could say they
did with Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly won ten games seriars
in a row. They go five and eleven, boom, he's gone.
You know, So you know, I think Nick Sirianni would
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be on the list of guys.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
Who have a lot of pressure on them.
Speaker 11 (18:52):
And the interesting thing is, I think with with these
teams in the NFC East, you know, we talked about
somebody hovering over a job. I mean, maybe the greatest
coach in of all time is hovering over an entire
division going into the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, I wondered about this. I said this last hour
that you have your coach and your quarterback in the
last year of their contracts.
Speaker 11 (19:13):
Yep, best receiver maybe best player in Michael Parsons with
two years left.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, but who's more likely to be back there next year?
Dak or Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
Dak?
Speaker 10 (19:28):
I think I'd say Dak.
Speaker 11 (19:30):
I mean, I think I think what they're wrestling with
with Dak again, like I sort of look at it
similar to like where the Rams were at the end
with Jared Goff, where they still liked Jared Goff, but
they had wrestled with how they paid him and his value,
And look like, I think in a weird way, they
(19:52):
both had proven right, you know, because the Rams went
out on a Super Bowl Stafford and now Golf has
completely revitalized his career and changed a narrative that followed
him around completely. You know, So in that circumstance, both
both Golf and the Rams somehow wound up being right.
I think that's possible in this situation too. You know,
(20:13):
where I don't think the Cowboys are wrestling with. Can
Dak Prescott, you know, win in the playoffs for US?
Can Dak Prescott be the answer for the next five years?
Can Dak Prescott remain you know? Within the top ten
or soak quarterbacks in the league. I think it's more
do we want to have this number on our books
affixed to this particular player. And that's why I think
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it was so hard the first time around, you know,
when they struggled and went through a franchise tag with
him and got to a second franchise tag with him
and finally signed him and cost themselves a lot of
money in the process.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
It's almost like they're doing that all over again.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
And you know, you do wonder like if there comes
a point when they say, all right, enough's enough, we're
going to just go into a go go into the
year and let him play out the contract, knowing it's
basically going to be impossible franchise him after the year.
So he's got almost an open almost a completely open
road to free agency if he wants.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
To take it.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it almost feels like there's this mutual agreement that
Dak's just going to play this year and then see
what happens when all's said and done, and if Dallas
is good, maybe Mike McCarthy stays. If not, you know,
Bill Belichick, come on down.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
It's weird because, like you know, I said, this.
Speaker 11 (21:25):
I've said this over the last couple of months when
people have asked me, like, which is the most urgent
of these situations? And again, you have your quarterback, your coach,
and your best player that you know I think I'll
want new contracts, right. I think it actually is none
of those three that's the most urgent. I think it's
Ceedee Lamb because cel Lamb's the one who has I
think showed over the last two months that he's willing
(21:46):
to push the envelope on this and he is going
into a contract year and the circumstances at his position
have changed, and the markets exploded. I mean, there's a
reason why the Dolphins were so aggressive with Jalen Waddle,
the Texans were so aggressive with Ico Collins, the lines
are so aggressive with i'm on Ross Saint Brown. You know,
like those teams did those deals early. That the Eagles
(22:07):
with Davante Smith, Like those teams did those deals early
because they knew Justin Jefferson was coming down the pike.
You know, now you have the Cowboys and nine are
sitting over here and it's like, sorry, price has changed,
you know what I mean? Like Justin Jefferson got paid
and now that number is thirty five and maybe you
don't have to give these guys thirty five million, but
they're gonna want something closer to it than what Waddell
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and Smith and Nico Collins and and I'm on Rossaint
Brown got. So that's a complicated one. And you know,
obviously he's not planning on showing up to camp and
has shown a willingness to to go to the mat
with the Cowboys to get what he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter,
the Belichick open invitation to join the Niners with Kyle Shanahan,
Kim Kawakami just kind of throws that out. Yeah, anybody,
anybody given a heads up that this was a possibility
prior to hearing that answer from Shanahan.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
I don't think anybody knows the relationship between the two
of them, would be surprised by that at all, that
Kyle would do that. Obviously they had an opening for
a defensive coordinator, but I also know like the way
both those guys.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
Think and there are I'm gonna.
Speaker 11 (23:25):
Try to say it's delicately without making them sound like egomaniacs.
I think that those two guys probably feel like there's
a small group of coaches who really really know what
they're doing, you know what I mean, and can coach
any position and are really good situationally and know how
to manage a team. And like, I think those two
guys view each other as peers in that way despite
(23:47):
the age difference.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
You know.
Speaker 11 (23:49):
And I think, you know, like Bill viewed Kyle's dad
that way, you know, and viewed him as being in
the same class. And so I think given the opportunity
to bring that sort of institutional knowledge and brain power aboard,
Kyle Shanahan was always going to do.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
It, you know.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
So, like whether it was his defensive coordinator or a
senior assistant or a consultant or whatever it was, those
guys have had enough conversations over the years. I mean,
those guys did the Jimmy Garoppolo deal one on one.
You know, those guys have had enough conversations over the
years where I think they've got a pretty good idea
of how the other one works. And you know, I
(24:28):
think Kyle, I think Kyle would have told you three
or four years ago. Like if Phil ever walks away
from doing when I jump jumping the chance to bring
him in here.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
The eighteen game schedule, yep, now it's out now, it's
it's up for you know grabs that we get to
talk about it. I did talk to you know, a
source this morning who said it's just a lot of
posturing and the players would have to get in his words,
a massive, massive deal. And I don't know, there's no
(24:57):
negotiations going on, but it's out there now and the commissioner.
Once the Commissioner kind of puts his holy water on it,
it feels like now, all of a sudden, it's open
for debate here. Yeah, we put the over under at
twenty twenty seven to go to eighteen. Then where would
(25:17):
you Because the Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in twenty thirty,
do you think they open it up or add an
addendum and we have eighteen game schedule in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
I think the key is there's an opt out. I
believe it's after twenty twenty nine in the broadcast deals.
So like to me, and you know how this stuff works, Dan, like,
I think they'd want to have this in place before then.
So when they're negotiating with the networks, and the streaming
services and everybody else. They're negotiating with a bigger piece
of real estate than they have right now, So I
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you know, my feeling is that they would probably want
to get this in place before negotiating the new broadcast deals,
assuming they'll opt out, and based on what we just
saw the NBA get, I'd say there's probably chance out
of one hundred that they do opt out after twenty
twenty nine. As for what it's going to take to
(26:11):
get eighteen games, I want to be really clear about this.
The players can the players cannot bargain away like off
season program stuff or anything like that owners don't care
about it anymore. I mean, I think it's just like
the owner's view those as opportunities to shut the lights
out and not pay bills for another three or four weeks.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Like they have to get the owners where it hurts,
and I think one of the ways that one of
the ways they can do that is to find a
way to get guys paid faster. And if I'm the players,
what I'm looking at is I'm saying I want loosening
of a loosing of the the rules on franchise tags
where you make it harder franchise tag a guy, not
(26:51):
saying get rid of them, but make it harder franchise
tag a guy. Right, and then I want to I
want guys to get to free agency earlier. Now, the
problem sometimes, the problem with this stuff sometimes can be
that the older players control the negotiation. So the older
players might be less concerned with a guy getting the
free agency after three years instead of four. But the
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reality is guys getting the free agency faster, guys getting
paid faster is.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
Going to help everybody. It's going to push the market
every which way.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
It's gonna I think, I think really impacts the chance
that they eventually get to more fully guaranteed contracts. So
I think it has to be something like that. It
has to be some measure of control over the workforce
that you're taking away from the owners. And I think
you know the ways that you do that is, you know,
you you find a way to make it easier for
guys to get the free agency, both through the numbers
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of numbers of years of service it takes to get there.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
And by maybe tearing down some of the walls.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
You know that the franchise tags create to star players
getting there.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Paulie brought this up years ago of a separate cap
for quarterbacks, and then that story came out I think,
you know, in the last six months or so that
and I don't know if they're running it up the flag.
Could you ever see where we separate the quarterback from
the rest of the roster when it comes to salary cap?
Speaker 10 (28:11):
Yeah, I just don't know how functionally that would work,
you know.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
I mean, I guess you have to do it like
a Larry Bird rule, like right, like where the NBA
if you if it's your own home I think the
rule was that, and I know there's still kind of
like there are offshoots of it, but like where you
can pay your own player or whatever you want. You know,
maybe it would be something like that, and you reward
a team for having a homegrown guy, or they're allowed
to pay a guy over a certain amount, and then
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the cap charges caps like say, all right, like you
can pay him whatever you want if you drafted and
developed him, right, and you can pay him sixty, but
we're only going to charge you for forty.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Maybe it'd be something like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
I think you have to get creative with it because
I do think like in the minds of a lot
of people working in the league, it does.
Speaker 10 (28:56):
It does help with competitive balance.
Speaker 11 (28:58):
The team with an only quarterback can't just low it up,
and then a team of an elite quarterback has to
build creatively and differently. You know, it challenges the teams
that have those guys. And you can say that, yes,
it's punishing teams for getting it right at quarterback, and
that's definitely true. Yeah, But the flip side of it is,
if the greater good is to have more teams closer
(29:20):
to five hundred, more teams at the end of the race,
at the end of the year, more teams.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
In it.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
Than you know, I think the way that it's set
up right now actually is probably a better solution.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Always great to talk to you. We'll keep bothering you
during the off season and during the regular season. He's
the Monday Morning quarterback Albert Breer. Thank you, Albert, all.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
Right, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I want to clarify something I said about usc UCLA
going into the Big Ten, and they're not going to
be afraid of a lot of these teams in the
Big Ten. I know that I didn't. You're in Oregon
and Washington into the equation there. Some people have pointed
that out. I'm just talking about the teams that are
in the Big Ten. Just like Texas and Oklahoma going
into the SEC. These are new opponents for them. And
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I'm looking at the Big Ten. It's just not formidable.
You have Michigan and Ohio State, and those two will
factor in for a national championship. Oregon, now, all of
a sudden, their sugar daddy is saying, I can't take
this money with me. Let's just spend this Nike money.
And you know I said this, I don't know when
we first had nil and collectives. I said, what is
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going to stop a billionaire from saying, here's twenty five
million dollars, I don't have any cap I mean, spend it,
go out and let's build a national championship. What would
stop a billionaire from doing that. SMU found their sugar daddy.
They got a billionaire. He's spending I think fifteen million
(31:00):
dollars maybe more on the football program. So SMU is
in a great area, rich area. They're spending money. SMU
football is on the way back. I mean, that's what
this is all about. It's about how much money you
can spend, who you bringing in and you don't have
(31:21):
a salary cap here, you can right in front of people,
you can try to buy a national championship. Now that
doesn't mean you're going to but SMU is back on
the map. Nobody talked about SMU football. Now all of
a sudden, they're spending money and the ACC now they
got a chance maybe to be you know, I'm not
(31:42):
gonna say formidable, but they're at least in the conversation.
If that's your alma mater. And you're like, I'm tired
of losing football games. I'm tired of being embarrassed every Saturday.
You're sixty years of age and you're like, you know what,
I'm going to spend some money. I'm going to give
this to the football collective and say here's twenty million dollars.
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Go ahead, do whatever you want, build me a winner.
And Phil Knight, I mean Phil's in his eighties. I
think he's probably saying, I've given you great accommodations here
now let's spend the money. Let's see what we can do.
Let's go into the big ten and spend some money.
It's going to happen. It probably is happening. You're just
(32:27):
not aware of it and trying to get a good
figure on what things cost. Now, remember when we talked
about how much is a good quarterback going to cost you?
And I said a million dollars in People like you
got to be crazy. I'm like, no, Now, all of
a sudden, million dollars, that might get you a good
wide receiver. What's the going rate for a running back? Now,
(32:51):
how about an offensive or defensive line? People thought I
was crazy when I said that's where I would build
my team. I'd spend my money on my offen offensive
and defensive line. I got you for three years, at
least three years, and now I don't worry about getting
to the passer or protecting the passer because I have
a great offensive line. Look at these teams that are
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competed for a national championship or won a national championship?
What do they have in common? Great offensive lines? Gotta
have it. I'd spend my money there. Then you're going
to get you know, you'll get a quarterback. You'll get
your wide receivers, You'll get your skill position players. Look
at Alabama, Look at Georgia. What did they do every year?
Great offensive line. Georgia did great offensive and defensive line
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as well. Texas A and M tried to do this.
They spent money, even though Jimbo said, no, they just recruited. No,
they spent money. They spent a lot of money. It
didn't work out. Speaking of college football, Ryan Day, Ohio
State head coach, making the rounds yesterday and he talked
about the expectations at Ohio State.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
We know what the expectation every time, you know, I've
you know, gone into a season at Ohio State. I
guess this is going to be my eighth season now,
you know six As the head coach, you know, you
expect to win every game. That's just what it is.
And if you don't think that's the case, try losing
a game at Ohio State. I mean, you're you're expected
to win them all. Yes, he's expected to beat Michigan.
You've lost three in a row. Now Jim Harbaugh is
(34:19):
no longer coaching there, and this makes it even more
of a hot seat for Ryan Day and Ryan day.
They've got you know, they got a great recruiting class.
They spent some money. They've got a couple of great receivers. Coman,
this has become wide receiver. You hasn't it. You know,
like Penn State used to be linebacker. You, this is receiver.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You at Ohio State because they're bringing in they got
one freshman coming in. Uh, I've heard about But Ohio
State will be good. But no, they will probably be great.
I think their co favorites for the national title with Georgia.
But it comes down to Michigan. But unlike previous year,
if you lost to Michigan, you weren't getting in the
(35:02):
college football playoffs. Now you are. You can have one loss.
It can be to Michigan. But now with twelve teams,
twelve schools, now you get a chance to salvage the
season because you may lose to Michigan. You could end
up winning the national title.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
Yes, Mark, so what if Ohio State and Michigan meet
again in the playoffs. There's no way he can lose
twice to Michigan.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
In the same year.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, no, no, that is the must wing.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
You're getting tarmacked.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yes, you're getting kiffined. That's when can you get Mike
Rabel on the phone place? Yes, yeah, it's that you
can't survive that, Yes, Todd, would it be unfair.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Of someone would have put him on the spot and say,
what would you tell fans if you were to lose
for the fourth year in a row against Michigan and
don't get the national championship?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Where do we go from here? With you and your
time at Ohig School?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
What do you think he's going to say? Tom?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I think it'd be a very difficult question for me.
They could say what they want. I can't worry about
what are other people saying. We're going to do our best.
We can't to win every.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Game because what I would say to you if you
said that to me is who people? I can't. I
can't think that way. I don't think that way now
that that's a loser mentality. We will win. We're going
to beat Michigan this year.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well makes you say that coach you lost the last
three year?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yes, but look we have a great team. Nounce up
to me to make sure that I coach a great team.
And you know, I'll give credit to the school up north.
They've played really well. That's a really good team. They
won the national championship, and uh, I expect that. I
expect us to win.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
And even if you do. When you didn't beat your mable,
thanks coach, not for associated press.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You you you talk a good game. You'd be in
those press conferences and you'd put up your your grubby
clammy hand going, hey, remember that time you did like
your question would be so long. Sometimes when you have
an answer or a question, it'll you tail off because
(37:02):
you know that you're just kind of not you should
have stopped.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I would have done that answer as answer asking and
the coach would be like, I don't know what you're asking,
what you're saying, did you just answer your own question?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
But you do. You do trail off sometimes when you
know that your answer is long, and then you just
I'm just gonna stop.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Thanks coach. Good look.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
St Out of the Day brought to you by Any America,
the official Trading Cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Well,
I know that Ohio State starts out with a pretty
rough schedule, Paulie, I'm warning the audience just listen to
what Ohio State is going to open up with.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Yeah, you want to embrace this historic football season with
a tough out of conference schedule, you'll get back on track.
Ohio State hosts Achron, they host Western Michigan, and then
they host Marshall. That's their entire.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Not to be confused with Georgia. Georgia opens up with.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Georgia has I think they start tough. But at one
point in the season, Georgia hosts you Mass oh u Mass, Okay,
like early November.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
There there can't be a betting line on Georgia against
hum Mess.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Right sometimes yeah, because that line would be in this
maybe in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Maybe they should open up with U Mess and then
they face what Texas.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
I got Georgia opening up with Clemson. Uh, neutral site
of course in Atlanta, Okay. Then a big one Tennessee
Tech at home, oh okay, now Tennessee Tennessee Tech. Then
a normal schedule.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Was mister mister Jennings was from East Tennessee State, wasn't he?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
The point guard, remember mister Jennings Marvin I don't Oh,
he's a big deal, a.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Little yeah, a little before March time.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, but he knows stuff that happened before he was born.
But East Tennessee, why do we let our kids off
that way where he goes, well, they wasn't born. There
are a lot of things that happened before you were born, true.
Speaker 13 (38:50):
That I know about. Yeah, but I just don't know
who that is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Mister Jennings. Google him, we'll do. Mister Jennings was his name?
East Tennessee State, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
SEC football does that fun thing in mid to late
November where they have a cupcake game in between a
couple of tough games. So after facing Tennessee, Georgia comes
home to.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Host UMass O twel game. Of course tickets sell. My
apologies to Georgia. I thought they opened with UMass so
they open up with Clemson.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You can't give you mass a head start.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, well, hey, U mass is gonna have a lot
of film. They're gonna have a lot of film on Georgia.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
If you're a U mass player, Honestly, I know what
you would say, but you can't really be looking forward
to that. Like, if you're a UMass player and you're
playing duke and basketball, what a great experience. You can't
really get hurt in basketball, your feelings can Yeah, you
can lose by sixty, yes, Mart.
Speaker 13 (39:41):
If you're like a wide receiver or a running back.
You want to play big because you know a bunch
of NFL scouts are going to be there. That's the
only reason why you want to play well.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
The leading rusher for U Mass is gonna have seven yards.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I guess I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I'll take. I'll put seven and a half. The leading
rusher for I'm gonna take.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Keep an eye on that one.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Somebody gonna scramble for nine.
Speaker 13 (40:04):
At least eleven.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yes, just tome I disagree that game can change in
a minute.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Man, that's not bad. Okay, I'm gonna give you a
PLoP there, we'll pause minute.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Seaton didn't even he didn't want to accommodate you there.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
That's okay. It's his birthday's chilling, that's right. I thought
that was kind of clever.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Seaton's not even here, He's he's He's probably googling Blink
one eighty two songs and no videos. He's going to
Blink one eighty two tonight. What's their big song? I'm sorry,
did you say what is their big song?
Speaker 5 (40:36):
You probably have five recognizable hits, like what's the.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Biggest song or my biggest one? Is probably all the
small things?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Small?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Was this a TV show theme song? Is this Malcolm
in the Middle?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I don't know, You're right.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's my age again? It was a big one. Damn,
it was a big one. Didn't they have an album
Anema of the State? They did? Wait, it didn't Blink
one eighty two? Do Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Sounds like the Malcolm in the Middle song?
Speaker 7 (41:12):
To me?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
What's my age again? You know that song? Rock show?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah? I probably know it. I just don't know it.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
There's a difference between a a great band and a
fun band and Blink one A two is a very
fun band, and you could like them without thinking they're
like all time greats.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
I think, yeah, yeah, they kind of have a thing
and they do it well when they do it good,
you know, yeah, yeah, it'll be fun. When you look
at like the set list of the songs they're playing,
pretty much almost everyone is like, oh, damn, that's right,
I remember that song.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Hm, it's pretty good. Okay, yeah, yeah. Did anybody google
Malcolm in the Middle theme music? I'm guessing it was
on a second Let me do that.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I'm being told by the back room guys. A song
called bossomy By They Might be Giants was a song
for Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Okay, checking sounded very similar, influenced by Blink on eighty two.
Maybe they Might Be Giants were essentially the Blinky two.
Oh okay, Larry, thank you nineteen eighty Thank you good morning.
If you're watching on peacock, thank you for downloading the app.
Operator Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls here Jacob
in Colorado, Hey Jacob.
Speaker 14 (42:21):
Good morning, gentlemen, monks for giving me a call this morning. Yep,
six ' four and according to my four daughters, snugly
three pounds. I got a boat name for you. Call
back to your sports center days. You can call your
boat booie.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, booie yeah. Okay. Shout out to Stuart Scott. Dirk
in Portland. Hi, Dirk, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (42:49):
There?
Speaker 12 (42:49):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
I just want to say a real quick happy birthday, Seaton.
I just got back, actually about three weeks ago. I
worked at a Blink one Edy two concert.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Man.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
I tell you it is out of your mind, energetic,
your pump is pumping. You're gonna have a fantastic time.
Happy birthday, all right.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Well, there's Dirk helping you out with Blink one eighty
two tonight. Heck you, Seaton got to see them when
he was a youngster. Now he gets to take his son. Yep,
see Blink one eighty two. Yep. Yeah. I was invited
to Earth Wind and Fire last night, and I believe
I saw them in the late seventies, and I wanted
(43:31):
to go. I just didn't know when they were going
to start, and so a friend of mine, he was
working the venue, said probably go on around eight thirty
or nine, and I thought, nah, oh yeah, two three,
here we go, Danny, remember changing, I'm a great band,
(44:02):
that's easily. They're closes, just great band. Yeah, two three four.
Commodorees as well, saw them back back in the day
as well.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Yes, Paul, did you know who was playing with Earth
Wind and Fire last night?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I did not.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Would this have affected if you knew Chicago? Okay, very
powerable with Peter Satara or without song Satara checkings.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, a lot of horns, a lot of horns involved
their different show, just saying yeah, Color My World Chicago.
Spend a lot of time holding on to somebody at
the high school dance the Color My World. No, No,
there's certain songs when they came on, like all of
(44:48):
a sudden, you're like a lifeguard on duty, and then
you're trying to find somebody who's drowning, and you turn
your attention to somebody like make a B line for
the slow dance. Yeah, and you know, you didn't really
slow dance. You just kind of hung on each other
and then went back and forth and back and like
(45:09):
a boat lightly rocking, and then and then the song
would end, and then you would just both go your
separate cever directions. I'd be like when Loue.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Everybody needs a little time away.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
That's what happens to until Stairway to Heaven comes on,
and then that's a See that's a tricky slow dance
song because then it starts to ramp up a little
bit and then you know, then it goes back down
to slow, so it's weird in between there. You got
to make a decision there, Yes, Marv, Wait.
Speaker 13 (45:42):
That's a song you play at it like at a
school dance. It to slow dance too.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Stairway to Heaven Yeah, yeah, well yeah we did, and.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Then it got awkward.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Well it always got awkward high school dance for me.
Speaker 13 (45:57):
I'm just talking about when the song ramped up, like,
oh what do we do now?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Well, that's where I just held on. It didn't matter
like I was like, like.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
You're at a bronco, like you're a cowboy.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I'm just just told noun. I'm just told nuns. Yeah.
And then you know you'd have the Catholic dances and
then the nuns you just didn't want to mess with
them because they meant business and they had these clickers.
Did your nuns have clickers? Think they'd be like they
wanted to get your attention back. Then they wore the
(46:29):
habits and I was scared to death of them because
I was like, man, this is this is not going
to end well with Sister Anne. The principal spanked me
in front of everybody in fifth grade, big big long paddle,
got up in front, whacked me a couple of times.
(46:50):
Can't get away with that? Now, what was going They
really did that? I got kicked out of class. I
was talking to Tina Klein and she was in chatterbox
and I just was talking to her and I was
told to go out in the hall. So I went
in the hall and this and the principal, Sister Anne
was walking down the home and she said, what are
(47:11):
you doing in the hallway. I said, oh, I'm just
coming back from the bathroom. And so she stood there
and she says, aren't you going to open the door?
I said, well, I got kicked out of class. And
then she said, well, which is it? I said, I
got kicked out of class. Took me into class and
I had to bend over in front of everybody. What
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and cracked me a couple of times. I had to
put my hands on my ankles and got whacked. It's
called the good old days now of them. Yeah, it's
just it's called good old fashioned discipline, is what it is.
Oh my god. And that's when you go home and
you tell your mom or dad and they go, yeah,
you probably deserved it, and be like, I got spanked
(47:58):
in front of the class.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, I was one generation past years. So we got
the option of detention suspension or swats they called them.
So it was either like a three day suspension you
go home, that's the biggie, or three swats and you
take the swats because it didn't get back to your parents.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I got my knuckles where you had to put them
on the desk and they took a ruler and they
got right on your knuckles, and it almost ruined my
jump shot. But you could assue I could have I
could have
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I had a story yesterday. It was in the Washington
Post and the NFL Players Association got together with writers, reporters,
editors from the Washington Post talking about the possibility of
an eighteen game schedule, and I thought, Okay, this is
interesting that it comes out, and a lot of times
this story comes out, so both sides can kind of
(00:26):
gather information here. How is the reaction going to be.
What's the reaction going to be? What are the players
going to say? Owners, GMS, coaches, everybody will have an opinion.
Because now you can bring that up. You're going to
have columns that are written on this. How can you
talk about player safety? And then you want to add
an eighteen game schedule? I agree, don't tell me about
(00:50):
player safety if you want to add another game here.
But it's going to happen eventually. The question is how
do you fast track this? How do you expedite this?
Go back to the college football playoffs? Remember that mess
when I had the audacity to say, look, they're going
to move this up a couple of years. They got
(01:10):
a contract. Yeah, they have a lottery ticket as well.
They broke the contract. As I reported, they were going
to break the contract because they realized how much money
would be made if you had a twelve team playoff.
All of a sudden you start to see numbers. Then
all of a sudden, you go, well, how do we
(01:32):
have an addendum to that contract? How do we break
that contract? Are we going to be waiting until twenty
thirty when the collective Bargain Agreement is up? I don't
think so. But I did reach out to two sources
this morning and they basically said the same thing. I'll
paraphrase some of the things that I got, and it
had to do with posturing. A lot of posturing going on.
(01:55):
Can't go to eighteen until well. They asked the players
what they want. They can ask for early negotiations now
the players, from what I'm told, it would have to
be a massive, massive offer, And from what I'm told,
players generally don't like the idea. Although I don't know
(02:16):
if I believe in that, because if you can add
another paycheck here, the clock is ticking on how long
your career is. But posturing is the word that I
got from two sources on this that they don't expect
anything serious in terms of a discussion for a while,
but it came out yesterday. We have more than a
month before the season starts. Camp has opened up, so
(02:39):
now you have a topic. Now you can ask a question. Hey,
you want to go to Jets camp. You don't want
to ask about Aaron Rodgers' Egyptian vacation. You can ask
him about an eighteen game schedule or the San Francisco
forty nine ers. Instead of asking about Brandon Ayuk, you're
gonna ask about what about an eighteen game schedule? Who's
(03:01):
the player rep for these teams? And asking them what
they think it's going to happen. The question is does
it happen before the Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in twenty thirty.
I would say they'll probably expedite this and that they'll
have Now I ask, okay, do you have to break
(03:22):
a contract? They said, you can have an addendum to
a contract. But this is a story that's there. We're
not going to be surprised that they go to eighteen.
When we got to seventeen, I was told, you know,
we're going to eighteen. The question is when we're going
to eighteen. It's not a question of if but when
it's just like the college football playoffs four teams, Hey,
(03:42):
what if we had twelve? What if we actually use
the bowl games that the bowl games would actually mean more?
How about this where you would go, the Orange Bowl
winner is going to play in the Sugar Bowl. So
now we're going to watch the Orange Bowl instead of
just oh that game and it doesn't mean anything, and
everybody goes away with some nice parting gifts. You've got
(04:02):
to follow the money here. That's what's going on in
college athletics. It's all about the money. In the NFL,
they they're the standard bearer. It's all about money. Remember
college football was going to eight and I said, no, no, no,
they're going to twelve. They're going to twelve because they
did the math. The NFL, the NFL Players Association, they've
(04:23):
done the math. They know an extra game, Now what's
that going to mean? What's that going to mean for
the networks? Does somebody bid even more? It comes down
to the money aspect. What do the players get, what
do the players want? And then how many more games
they are going to be international games? Because when we
went to seventeen, I was told this makes it so
(04:43):
much easier to say to an owner, we're going to
have that game in another country. We're going to let
you have that. Whether it's Germany or it's Brazil. You
can have your fan base, you can have your game there,
and you know it's a home away from home game.
You're going to be able to set up your merchandise.
(05:05):
That's going to be your other city, your other country.
And the owners, of course love that because it's once
again all about money, all right. Eight seven seven to three,
DP show email address, the dpat Danpatrick dot com twitter
handle at dp show. Some Olympic events do begin today
opening ceremonies or Fridays. You have soccer and rugby. I
(05:27):
think surfing is in Tahaiti. Whoa, I think they're doing
surfing in ta Heati, not in Paris. No, it would
be kind of tough to do surfing in Paris, but Tahati.
So they have soccer and rugby they have to kind
of play yes time.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Is that insulting or is that just because of the
scheduling they have to do that before the opening ceremony
even begins.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
That there's games underway some of them seems wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, I think there's more matches, more games. They have
to spread it out a little bit more. You have
to be fair to the athletes. But I mean, it's
kind of like when you go to the Oscars luncheon
and then somebody gets their Academy award at the luncheon.
They don't even get that later that night, you know,
during the you know, the awards ceremony. Paul Skeens pitched
(06:11):
great again last night, got his first career loss. Standing
ovation in Pittsburgh. NFL training camps are open and the
forty nine ers offered Bill Belichick a coaching gig. Okay,
got my attention with that, you know, the Niners dealing
with Brandon Ayuk and then apparently Kyle Shanahan reached down
to Bill Belichick and said, any job you want, we'll
(06:33):
have that clip from him coming up here in a
little bit. Seton what is the poll question today or
at least what are we going to go with? First hour?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah, we got a.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Couple that were kicking around. We could start with the
NFL adding an eighteenth game. Do you feel like that's
going to be within the next two years or post
two years.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I would say post two years, it'll be like three
or more. Yes, well, okay, so won't be this season
twenty four, They wouldn't do it in twenty five. I
don't think. No, I don't know. I don't know if
you could kind of. I don't know the logistics of
trying to get an eighteen game schedule and how that
(07:15):
works out with stadiums and bye weeks and travel and.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Do you think it has more to do with bye
weeks and travel or who's going to pay the most
to get that?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, it could be that too, because if I'm the NFL,
I want to keep it out there and just say, hey,
who's interested. Who would like to pony up extra money
for a football game or two? Remember when Peacock spent
over one hundred million dollars for a playoff game and
people said, why would you do that? Oh, you're going
(07:45):
to lose viewership. It was a smash hit for Peacock.
Smash it. This is what Amazon. I mean, You're going
to have all of these streaming services go, hey, I'll
pony up the money there. That's what the NFL wants. Yes,
will it be while we're doing this show? Yes, I
would say by twenty twenty seven, So twenty five twenty
(08:08):
twenty six. Is it the end of twenty twenty seven
or going into twenty two, going into twenty twenty seven?
How's that? So we would be here until Christmas Eve
of twenty twenty seven. They would have an eighteen game.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Schedule, so this would be your your calling it quit
going into twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It would be just before twenty twenty yes, right.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
Yes, so we would have that twenty twenty seven fall. Yes,
of possibly this eighteenth game, we would have probably what
fifteen games maybe during that season?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Interesting? Yeah, yes too for our.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Last super Bowl Week could be President's Week of Shows
for an unprecedented time of the year, like third week
of February.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
We could be doing our last super Bowl Week of shows.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, we'll be off the air.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But if it's if it's the twenty six season into
and games or played the super Bowls played in twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Seven, I'm retiring December twenty fourth or twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Right, So we couldn't do a Super Bowl Week show
in twenty twenty eight. But I thought it was the
twenty twenty sixth season and we would do super Bowl
Week February of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Well, You're still not retired for ten months.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yet I might retire right now. Understandable most likely to
cause you to retire. God, am I doing the math.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Throm If it's the twenty twenty six season. The Super
Bowls played in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But it'll be twenty twenty seven season.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I thought I thought it was a twenty twenty six
sees they could do it as early as that possible.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, I said twenty twenty seven, and I'm retiring into it.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, then that would not factor into what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
For twenty seven to twenty twenty six, twenty twenty twenty
sis inch weekend.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, I can't get this done in the next two years.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
We'd have to take at least three years for them
to just he just ask me.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I don't know, just trying to do a poll question
like I'm supposed to.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Let's not very fast tracked. If it's gonna take at
least three years to get this figure.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Out, I'm supposed to be thirty thirty Compared to that,
it's fester that it'd be twenty thirty one by the
time they enacted this, so that would be a little faster.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Herry on.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
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free shipping. All right, So that's one pole question.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Wef Todd did send in one. Actually, this is really
funny because I think his sometimes his answers to his
own pole questions are really cracked me up. But there
was a story of the Canadian women's soccer team using
drones to fly over and spy on a practice.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, I saw the headline what we know about Canada
flying drones over Olympic soccer practices. The Canadian Olympic Committee
announced Tuesday it's sent home an assistant coach and an
analyst with the Canada's soccer club after accusations of spying
on New Zealand. So this is the women's team. Didn't
(11:20):
Canada win the gold last time around? The women? I
think they did. Yeah, I think they wanted penalties.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Canada was so innocent, nice and neutral, had they become
so terrible. What a terrible thing to do.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I don't know if this indicts the entire.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Went rogue, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Everybody was all in on that, but for someone to
think that that would be remotely excitable.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
How are we going to do today? How do you think?
We're thirteen minutes in and I'm really starting to question
how are going to do it? Okay, yes, yes, just.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
To give Canada a fair shake. The assistant coach that
was accused of this is British, not Canadian.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Now it makes sense, yes a lot. Now it makes sense.
All right. So they had two incidents of flying the
drone over where the two teams play tomorrow. Uh, the
head coach has made a decision not to coach in
that Thursday game. Here's my favorite Canada soccer staff undergo
(12:24):
mandatory ethics training.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, like right before, like today, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Know when, as soon as today. You know, all you
have to do is go into the ethics meeting and say,
don't use a drone over somebody's practice session. Okay, okay dismissed.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Yes, well, I'm reading Todd's pole question here flying a
drone over an Olympic teams practice in order to gain
an advantage. Is dot dot dot dot a brilliant use
of modern technology? Okay, if used sparingly or cheating on
an unacceptable I okay, if you sparingly?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Is don't invade every problem?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Funny, don't use several drones?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Maybe once?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And you wait, you just indicted Canada and now you're saying,
you know, if you use it sparingly.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
We pass around there, like you know, once or twice,
but don't have like a whole fleet of them overhead
every day of the practice.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Two incidents there? Do they need to do that with
New Zealand? But the coach don't sleep on New Zealand? Yeah?
Uh so the coach didn't get to coach on Thursday
opening match, and uh, I guess they sent home a
couple of staffers there.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Repression drone on and on about this story that somebody
ever fixed it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Should Wow, damn, we're fifteen minutes in.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's gonna be a long day for you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know if I can do it. I don't know.
I don't blame you. Gotta admit, what is the over
under where I just walk out today? If I said
two and a half hours anybody got the over PAULI.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
It doesn't have to be you the leaves.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It could be a mass exodus. Then it's just Todd
sitting over here somewhere.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
You know, our two segment three, just after Albert Breer,
unless he has a truly great I know you're gonna
make it to Albert for sure, because you wouldn't leave
him hanging with us idiots after that. Depending on how
that goes, it's really anyone's guess.
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Speaker 5 (15:41):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Look, who's back, our favorite Monday morning quarterback. Senior NFL
reporter a Ohio state apologist, Albert Breer, back on the program.
How are you, Albert?
Speaker 10 (15:52):
I'm good? How you doing?
Speaker 11 (15:53):
I don't know if apologists is the right term. Maybe realist?
Speaker 12 (15:57):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Three years?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, all right? If he doesn't beat Michigan this year,
what happens?
Speaker 11 (16:06):
Yeah? I think you're right to bring up the different
circumstance now, where you know, we've all had that thought
in our head, like.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
What would like would you what would it feel like
to win.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
A national championship if he didn't beat Michigan, And that
always seemed unrealistic because generally, the team that loses that game.
Now there's been exceptions, but generally the team that loses
that game is out of the race for the national title.
That's not the case anymore. So I think it's a
little hard to answer that question. But you know, I think,
(16:38):
you know, like you look at the resources that that
have been sunk into this year, the amount of guys
that are coming back the three year losing straight to Michigan,
and even like the availability of somebody like Mike Vrabel,
which like if the season doesn't go the right way,
you know how these things can work. Guys can hover
over certain jobs, and you know the same way Jim
Harball once upon a time hovered over the Michigan job.
(17:00):
You know, I think Mike Vrabel could wind up hovering
over the Ohio State job. Just like a lot of
things at work. To put a lot of pressure on
Ryan going into the year, I think he's going to
do a great job. I think on balance, outside of
those three Saturdays, he has done a really good job.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
But there's no question there's a ton of pressure on him.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Plus if you don't meet Michigan this year and Jim
Harball is not even there, like you know it, just
like Sharon Moore is your new head coach there. But yeah,
a lot of pressure. I'm trying to think if there's
a coach who has more pressure on him this year,
I guess Caitlin de boor feel, you know, taking over
for Nick Saban. Can you think of any Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
Mike I was gonna say Mike McCarthy, I mean Nick
Sirianni in Philadelphia? I think one, Yeah, you know, and
I think that pressure was underscored by like we were
talking about him being fired twelve months after he made
the Super Bowl and they got rid of both of
his coordinators. And so now he's working with two guys
who won, who's had like you know, designs on being
(18:02):
a head coach and who's you know, interviewed for a
boatload of jobs, and you know, in Kellen Moore in
offense then on defense, Pctangio who you know, had a
little bit of a sideways experience last summer and and
was a head coach before. You know, it's just I think,
you know, you you you look at the circumstances facing
Sirianni there, the amount of money they've got sunk into
(18:24):
this team, and the way that they've spent cash over cap,
and how how close they got two years ago, and
how ownership feels about that roster, and how there's a
track record there of having a quick trigger finger. They
did with Doug Peterson. You know, you could say they
did with Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly won ten games seriars
in a row. They go five and eleven, boom, he's gone.
You know, So you know, I think Nick Sirianni would
(18:48):
be on the list of guys.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
Who have a lot of pressure on them.
Speaker 11 (18:52):
And the interesting thing is, I think with with these
teams in the NFC East, you know, we talked about
somebody hovering over a job. I mean, maybe the greatest
coach in of all time is hovering over an entire
division going into the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well, I wondered about this. I said this last hour
that you have your coach and your quarterback in the
last year of their contracts.
Speaker 11 (19:13):
Yep, best receiver maybe best player in Michael Parsons with
two years left.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, but who's more likely to be back there next year?
Dak or Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 12 (19:28):
Dak?
Speaker 10 (19:28):
I think I'd say Dak.
Speaker 11 (19:30):
I mean, I think I think what they're wrestling with
with Dak again, like I sort of look at it
similar to like where the Rams were at the end
with Jared Goff, where they still liked Jared Goff, but
they had wrestled with how they paid him and his value,
And look like, I think in a weird way, they
(19:52):
both had proven right, you know, because the Rams went
out on a Super Bowl Stafford and now Golf has
completely revitalized his career and changed a narrative that followed
him around completely. You know, So in that circumstance, both
both Golf and the Rams somehow wound up being right.
I think that's possible in this situation too. You know,
(20:13):
where I don't think the Cowboys are wrestling with. Can
Dak Prescott, you know, win in the playoffs for US?
Can Dak Prescott be the answer for the next five years?
Can Dak Prescott remain you know? Within the top ten
or soak quarterbacks in the league. I think it's more
do we want to have this number on our books
affixed to this particular player. And that's why I think
(20:35):
it was so hard the first time around, you know,
when they struggled and went through a franchise tag with
him and got to a second franchise tag with him
and finally signed him and cost themselves a lot of
money in the process.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
It's almost like they're doing that all over again.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
And you know, you do wonder like if there comes
a point when they say, all right, enough's enough, we're
going to just go into a go go into the
year and let him play out the contract, knowing it's
basically going to be impossible franchise him after the year.
So he's got almost an open almost a completely open
road to free agency if he wants.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
To take it.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it almost feels like there's this mutual agreement that
Dak's just going to play this year and then see
what happens when all's said and done, and if Dallas
is good, maybe Mike McCarthy stays. If not, you know,
Bill Belichick, come on down.
Speaker 10 (21:22):
It's weird because, like you know, I said, this.
Speaker 11 (21:25):
I've said this over the last couple of months when
people have asked me, like, which is the most urgent
of these situations? And again, you have your quarterback, your coach,
and your best player that you know I think I'll
want new contracts, right. I think it actually is none
of those three that's the most urgent. I think it's
Ceedee Lamb because cel Lamb's the one who has I
think showed over the last two months that he's willing
(21:46):
to push the envelope on this and he is going
into a contract year and the circumstances at his position
have changed, and the markets exploded. I mean, there's a
reason why the Dolphins were so aggressive with Jalen Waddle,
the Texans were so aggressive with Ico Collins, the lines
are so aggressive with i'm on Ross Saint Brown. You know,
like those teams did those deals early. That the Eagles
(22:07):
with Davante Smith, Like those teams did those deals early
because they knew Justin Jefferson was coming down the pike.
You know, now you have the Cowboys and nine are
sitting over here and it's like, sorry, price has changed,
you know what I mean? Like Justin Jefferson got paid
and now that number is thirty five and maybe you
don't have to give these guys thirty five million, but
they're gonna want something closer to it than what Waddell
(22:28):
and Smith and Nico Collins and and I'm on Rossaint
Brown got. So that's a complicated one. And you know,
obviously he's not planning on showing up to camp and
has shown a willingness to to go to the mat
with the Cowboys to get what he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter,
the Belichick open invitation to join the Niners with Kyle Shanahan,
Kim Kawakami just kind of throws that out. Yeah, anybody,
anybody given a heads up that this was a possibility
prior to hearing that answer from Shanahan.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
I don't think anybody knows the relationship between the two
of them, would be surprised by that at all, that
Kyle would do that. Obviously they had an opening for
a defensive coordinator, but I also know like the way
both those guys.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
Think and there are I'm gonna.
Speaker 11 (23:25):
Try to say it's delicately without making them sound like egomaniacs.
I think that those two guys probably feel like there's
a small group of coaches who really really know what
they're doing, you know what I mean, and can coach
any position and are really good situationally and know how
to manage a team. And like, I think those two
guys view each other as peers in that way despite
(23:47):
the age difference.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
You know.
Speaker 11 (23:49):
And I think, you know, like Bill viewed Kyle's dad
that way, you know, and viewed him as being in
the same class. And so I think given the opportunity
to bring that sort of institutional knowledge and brain power aboard,
Kyle Shanahan was always going to do.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
It, you know.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
So, like whether it was his defensive coordinator or a
senior assistant or a consultant or whatever it was, those
guys have had enough conversations over the years. I mean,
those guys did the Jimmy Garoppolo deal one on one.
You know, those guys have had enough conversations over the
years where I think they've got a pretty good idea
of how the other one works. And you know, I
(24:28):
think Kyle, I think Kyle would have told you three
or four years ago. Like if Phil ever walks away
from doing when I jump jumping the chance to bring
him in here.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
The eighteen game schedule, yep, now it's out now, it's
it's up for you know grabs that we get to
talk about it. I did talk to you know, a
source this morning who said it's just a lot of
posturing and the players would have to get in his words,
a massive, massive deal. And I don't know, there's no
(24:57):
negotiations going on, but it's out there now and the commissioner.
Once the Commissioner kind of puts his holy water on it,
it feels like now, all of a sudden, it's open
for debate here. Yeah, we put the over under at
twenty twenty seven to go to eighteen. Then where would
(25:17):
you Because the Collective Bargaining Agreement expires in twenty thirty,
do you think they open it up or add an
addendum and we have eighteen game schedule in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:28):
I think the key is there's an opt out. I
believe it's after twenty twenty nine in the broadcast deals.
So like to me, and you know how this stuff works, Dan, like,
I think they'd want to have this in place before then.
So when they're negotiating with the networks, and the streaming
services and everybody else. They're negotiating with a bigger piece
of real estate than they have right now, So I
(25:48):
you know, my feeling is that they would probably want
to get this in place before negotiating the new broadcast deals,
assuming they'll opt out, and based on what we just
saw the NBA get, I'd say there's probably chance out
of one hundred that they do opt out after twenty
twenty nine. As for what it's going to take to
(26:11):
get eighteen games, I want to be really clear about this.
The players can the players cannot bargain away like off
season program stuff or anything like that owners don't care
about it anymore. I mean, I think it's just like
the owner's view those as opportunities to shut the lights
out and not pay bills for another three or four weeks.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Like they have to get the owners where it hurts,
and I think one of the ways that one of
the ways they can do that is to find a
way to get guys paid faster. And if I'm the players,
what I'm looking at is I'm saying I want loosening
of a loosing of the the rules on franchise tags
where you make it harder franchise tag a guy, not
(26:51):
saying get rid of them, but make it harder franchise
tag a guy. Right, and then I want to I
want guys to get to free agency earlier. Now, the
problem sometimes, the problem with this stuff sometimes can be
that the older players control the negotiation. So the older
players might be less concerned with a guy getting the
free agency after three years instead of four. But the
(27:12):
reality is guys getting the free agency faster, guys getting
paid faster is.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
Going to help everybody. It's going to push the market
every which way.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
It's gonna I think, I think really impacts the chance
that they eventually get to more fully guaranteed contracts. So
I think it has to be something like that. It
has to be some measure of control over the workforce
that you're taking away from the owners. And I think
you know the ways that you do that is, you know,
you you find a way to make it easier for
guys to get the free agency, both through the numbers
(27:43):
of numbers of years of service it takes to get there.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
And by maybe tearing down some of the walls.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
You know that the franchise tags create to star players
getting there.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Paulie brought this up years ago of a separate cap
for quarterbacks, and then that story came out I think,
you know, in the last six months or so that
and I don't know if they're running it up the flag.
Could you ever see where we separate the quarterback from
the rest of the roster when it comes to salary cap?
Speaker 10 (28:11):
Yeah, I just don't know how functionally that would work,
you know.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
I mean, I guess you have to do it like
a Larry Bird rule, like right, like where the NBA
if you if it's your own home I think the
rule was that, and I know there's still kind of
like there are offshoots of it, but like where you
can pay your own player or whatever you want. You know,
maybe it would be something like that, and you reward
a team for having a homegrown guy, or they're allowed
to pay a guy over a certain amount, and then
(28:33):
the cap charges caps like say, all right, like you
can pay him whatever you want if you drafted and
developed him, right, and you can pay him sixty, but
we're only going to charge you for forty.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Maybe it'd be something like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
I think you have to get creative with it because
I do think like in the minds of a lot
of people working in the league, it does.
Speaker 10 (28:56):
It does help with competitive balance.
Speaker 11 (28:58):
The team with an only quarterback can't just low it up,
and then a team of an elite quarterback has to
build creatively and differently. You know, it challenges the teams
that have those guys. And you can say that, yes,
it's punishing teams for getting it right at quarterback, and
that's definitely true. Yeah, But the flip side of it is,
if the greater good is to have more teams closer
(29:20):
to five hundred, more teams at the end of the race,
at the end of the year, more teams.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
In it.
Speaker 11 (29:25):
Than you know, I think the way that it's set
up right now actually is probably a better solution.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Always great to talk to you. We'll keep bothering you
during the off season and during the regular season. He's
the Monday Morning quarterback Albert Breer. Thank you, Albert, all.
Speaker 10 (29:39):
Right, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I want to clarify something I said about usc UCLA
going into the Big Ten, and they're not going to
be afraid of a lot of these teams in the
Big Ten. I know that I didn't. You're in Oregon
and Washington into the equation there. Some people have pointed
that out. I'm just talking about the teams that are
in the Big Ten. Just like Texas and Oklahoma going
into the SEC. These are new opponents for them. And
(30:15):
I'm looking at the Big Ten. It's just not formidable.
You have Michigan and Ohio State, and those two will
factor in for a national championship. Oregon, now, all of
a sudden, their sugar daddy is saying, I can't take
this money with me. Let's just spend this Nike money.
And you know I said this, I don't know when
we first had nil and collectives. I said, what is
(30:37):
going to stop a billionaire from saying, here's twenty five
million dollars, I don't have any cap I mean, spend it,
go out and let's build a national championship. What would
stop a billionaire from doing that. SMU found their sugar daddy.
They got a billionaire. He's spending I think fifteen million
(31:00):
dollars maybe more on the football program. So SMU is
in a great area, rich area. They're spending money. SMU
football is on the way back. I mean, that's what
this is all about. It's about how much money you
can spend, who you bringing in and you don't have
(31:21):
a salary cap here, you can right in front of people,
you can try to buy a national championship. Now that
doesn't mean you're going to but SMU is back on
the map. Nobody talked about SMU football. Now all of
a sudden, they're spending money and the ACC now they
got a chance maybe to be you know, I'm not
(31:42):
gonna say formidable, but they're at least in the conversation.
If that's your alma mater. And you're like, I'm tired
of losing football games. I'm tired of being embarrassed every Saturday.
You're sixty years of age and you're like, you know what,
I'm going to spend some money. I'm going to give
this to the football collective and say here's twenty million dollars.
(32:04):
Go ahead, do whatever you want, build me a winner.
And Phil Knight, I mean Phil's in his eighties. I
think he's probably saying, I've given you great accommodations here
now let's spend the money. Let's see what we can do.
Let's go into the big ten and spend some money.
It's going to happen. It probably is happening. You're just
(32:27):
not aware of it and trying to get a good
figure on what things cost. Now, remember when we talked
about how much is a good quarterback going to cost you?
And I said a million dollars in People like you
got to be crazy. I'm like, no, Now, all of
a sudden, million dollars, that might get you a good
wide receiver. What's the going rate for a running back? Now,
(32:51):
how about an offensive or defensive line? People thought I
was crazy when I said that's where I would build
my team. I'd spend my money on my offen offensive
and defensive line. I got you for three years, at
least three years, and now I don't worry about getting
to the passer or protecting the passer because I have
a great offensive line. Look at these teams that are
(33:12):
competed for a national championship or won a national championship?
What do they have in common? Great offensive lines? Gotta
have it. I'd spend my money there. Then you're going
to get you know, you'll get a quarterback. You'll get
your wide receivers, You'll get your skill position players. Look
at Alabama, Look at Georgia. What did they do every year?
Great offensive line. Georgia did great offensive and defensive line
(33:37):
as well. Texas A and M tried to do this.
They spent money, even though Jimbo said, no, they just recruited. No,
they spent money. They spent a lot of money. It
didn't work out. Speaking of college football, Ryan Day, Ohio
State head coach, making the rounds yesterday and he talked
about the expectations at Ohio State.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
We know what the expectation every time, you know, I've
you know, gone into a season at Ohio State. I
guess this is going to be my eighth season now,
you know six As the head coach, you know, you
expect to win every game. That's just what it is.
And if you don't think that's the case, try losing
a game at Ohio State. I mean, you're you're expected
to win them all. Yes, he's expected to beat Michigan.
You've lost three in a row. Now Jim Harbaugh is
(34:19):
no longer coaching there, and this makes it even more
of a hot seat for Ryan Day and Ryan day.
They've got you know, they got a great recruiting class.
They spent some money. They've got a couple of great receivers. Coman,
this has become wide receiver. You hasn't it. You know,
like Penn State used to be linebacker. You, this is receiver.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You at Ohio State because they're bringing in they got
one freshman coming in. Uh, I've heard about But Ohio
State will be good. But no, they will probably be great.
I think their co favorites for the national title with Georgia.
But it comes down to Michigan. But unlike previous year,
if you lost to Michigan, you weren't getting in the
(35:02):
college football playoffs. Now you are. You can have one loss.
It can be to Michigan. But now with twelve teams,
twelve schools, now you get a chance to salvage the
season because you may lose to Michigan. You could end
up winning the national title.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
Yes, Mark, so what if Ohio State and Michigan meet
again in the playoffs. There's no way he can lose
twice to Michigan.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
In the same year.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, no, no, that is the must wing.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
You're getting tarmacked.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yes, you're getting kiffined. That's when can you get Mike
Rabel on the phone place? Yes, yeah, it's that you
can't survive that, Yes, Todd, would it be unfair.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Of someone would have put him on the spot and say,
what would you tell fans if you were to lose
for the fourth year in a row against Michigan and
don't get the national championship?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Where do we go from here? With you and your
time at Ohig School?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
What do you think he's going to say? Tom?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I think it'd be a very difficult question for me.
They could say what they want. I can't worry about
what are other people saying. We're going to do our best.
We can't to win every.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Game because what I would say to you if you
said that to me is who people? I can't. I
can't think that way. I don't think that way now
that that's a loser mentality. We will win. We're going
to beat Michigan this year.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well makes you say that coach you lost the last
three year?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yes, but look we have a great team. Nounce up
to me to make sure that I coach a great team.
And you know, I'll give credit to the school up north.
They've played really well. That's a really good team. They
won the national championship, and uh, I expect that. I
expect us to win.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
And even if you do. When you didn't beat your mable,
thanks coach, not for associated press.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You you you talk a good game. You'd be in
those press conferences and you'd put up your your grubby
clammy hand going, hey, remember that time you did like
your question would be so long. Sometimes when you have
an answer or a question, it'll you tail off because
(37:02):
you know that you're just kind of not you should
have stopped.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I would have done that answer as answer asking and
the coach would be like, I don't know what you're asking,
what you're saying, did you just answer your own question?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
But you do. You do trail off sometimes when you
know that your answer is long, and then you just
I'm just gonna stop.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Thanks coach. Good look.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
St Out of the Day brought to you by Any America,
the official Trading Cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Well,
I know that Ohio State starts out with a pretty
rough schedule, Paulie, I'm warning the audience just listen to
what Ohio State is going to open up with.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Yeah, you want to embrace this historic football season with
a tough out of conference schedule, you'll get back on track.
Ohio State hosts Achron, they host Western Michigan, and then
they host Marshall. That's their entire.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Not to be confused with Georgia. Georgia opens up with.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Georgia has I think they start tough. But at one
point in the season, Georgia hosts you Mass oh u Mass, Okay,
like early November.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
There there can't be a betting line on Georgia against
hum Mess.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Right sometimes yeah, because that line would be in this
maybe in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Maybe they should open up with U Mess and then
they face what Texas.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
I got Georgia opening up with Clemson. Uh, neutral site
of course in Atlanta, Okay. Then a big one Tennessee
Tech at home, oh okay, now Tennessee Tennessee Tech. Then
a normal schedule.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Was mister mister Jennings was from East Tennessee State, wasn't he?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
The point guard, remember mister Jennings Marvin I don't Oh,
he's a big deal, a.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Little yeah, a little before March time.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, but he knows stuff that happened before he was born.
But East Tennessee, why do we let our kids off
that way where he goes, well, they wasn't born. There
are a lot of things that happened before you were born, true.
Speaker 13 (38:50):
That I know about. Yeah, but I just don't know
who that is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Mister Jennings. Google him, we'll do. Mister Jennings was his name?
East Tennessee State, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
SEC football does that fun thing in mid to late
November where they have a cupcake game in between a
couple of tough games. So after facing Tennessee, Georgia comes
home to.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Host UMass O twel game. Of course tickets sell. My
apologies to Georgia. I thought they opened with UMass so
they open up with Clemson.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You can't give you mass a head start.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, well, hey, U mass is gonna have a lot
of film. They're gonna have a lot of film on Georgia.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
If you're a U mass player, Honestly, I know what
you would say, but you can't really be looking forward
to that. Like, if you're a UMass player and you're
playing duke and basketball, what a great experience. You can't
really get hurt in basketball, your feelings can Yeah, you
can lose by sixty, yes, Mart.
Speaker 13 (39:41):
If you're like a wide receiver or a running back.
You want to play big because you know a bunch
of NFL scouts are going to be there. That's the
only reason why you want to play well.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
The leading rusher for U Mass is gonna have seven yards.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I guess I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I'll take. I'll put seven and a half. The leading
rusher for I'm gonna take.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Keep an eye on that one.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Somebody gonna scramble for nine.
Speaker 13 (40:04):
At least eleven.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yes, just tome I disagree that game can change in
a minute.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Man, that's not bad. Okay, I'm gonna give you a
PLoP there, we'll pause minute.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Seaton didn't even he didn't want to accommodate you there.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
That's okay. It's his birthday's chilling, that's right. I thought
that was kind of clever.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Seaton's not even here, He's he's He's probably googling Blink
one eighty two songs and no videos. He's going to
Blink one eighty two tonight. What's their big song? I'm sorry,
did you say what is their big song?
Speaker 5 (40:36):
You probably have five recognizable hits, like what's the.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Biggest song or my biggest one? Is probably all the
small things?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Small?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Was this a TV show theme song? Is this Malcolm
in the Middle?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I don't know, You're right.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's my age again? It was a big one. Damn,
it was a big one. Didn't they have an album
Anema of the State? They did? Wait, it didn't Blink
one eighty two? Do Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Sounds like the Malcolm in the Middle song?
Speaker 7 (41:12):
To me?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
What's my age again? You know that song? Rock show?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah? I probably know it. I just don't know it.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
There's a difference between a a great band and a
fun band and Blink one A two is a very
fun band, and you could like them without thinking they're
like all time greats.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
I think, yeah, yeah, they kind of have a thing
and they do it well when they do it good,
you know, yeah, yeah, it'll be fun. When you look
at like the set list of the songs they're playing,
pretty much almost everyone is like, oh, damn, that's right,
I remember that song.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Hm, it's pretty good. Okay, yeah, yeah. Did anybody google
Malcolm in the Middle theme music? I'm guessing it was
on a second Let me do that.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I'm being told by the back room guys. A song
called bossomy By They Might be Giants was a song
for Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Okay, checking sounded very similar, influenced by Blink on eighty two.
Maybe they Might Be Giants were essentially the Blinky two.
Oh okay, Larry, thank you nineteen eighty Thank you good morning.
If you're watching on peacock, thank you for downloading the app.
Operator Tyler sitting by taking your phone calls here Jacob
in Colorado, Hey Jacob.
Speaker 14 (42:21):
Good morning, gentlemen, monks for giving me a call this morning. Yep,
six ' four and according to my four daughters, snugly
three pounds. I got a boat name for you. Call
back to your sports center days. You can call your
boat booie.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, booie yeah. Okay. Shout out to Stuart Scott. Dirk
in Portland. Hi, Dirk, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (42:49):
There?
Speaker 12 (42:49):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
I just want to say a real quick happy birthday, Seaton.
I just got back, actually about three weeks ago. I
worked at a Blink one Edy two concert.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Man.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
I tell you it is out of your mind, energetic,
your pump is pumping. You're gonna have a fantastic time.
Happy birthday, all right.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Well, there's Dirk helping you out with Blink one eighty
two tonight. Heck you, Seaton got to see them when
he was a youngster. Now he gets to take his son. Yep,
see Blink one eighty two. Yep. Yeah. I was invited
to Earth Wind and Fire last night, and I believe
I saw them in the late seventies, and I wanted
(43:31):
to go. I just didn't know when they were going
to start, and so a friend of mine, he was
working the venue, said probably go on around eight thirty
or nine, and I thought, nah, oh yeah, two three,
here we go, Danny, remember changing, I'm a great band,
(44:02):
that's easily. They're closes, just great band. Yeah, two three four.
Commodorees as well, saw them back back in the day
as well.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Yes, Paul, did you know who was playing with Earth
Wind and Fire last night?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I did not.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Would this have affected if you knew Chicago? Okay, very
powerable with Peter Satara or without song Satara checkings.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, a lot of horns, a lot of horns involved
their different show, just saying yeah, Color My World Chicago.
Spend a lot of time holding on to somebody at
the high school dance the Color My World. No, No,
there's certain songs when they came on, like all of
(44:48):
a sudden, you're like a lifeguard on duty, and then
you're trying to find somebody who's drowning, and you turn
your attention to somebody like make a B line for
the slow dance. Yeah, and you know, you didn't really
slow dance. You just kind of hung on each other
and then went back and forth and back and like
(45:09):
a boat lightly rocking, and then and then the song
would end, and then you would just both go your
separate cever directions. I'd be like when Loue.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Everybody needs a little time away.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
That's what happens to until Stairway to Heaven comes on,
and then that's a See that's a tricky slow dance
song because then it starts to ramp up a little
bit and then you know, then it goes back down
to slow, so it's weird in between there. You got
to make a decision there, Yes, Marv, Wait.
Speaker 13 (45:42):
That's a song you play at it like at a
school dance. It to slow dance too.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Stairway to Heaven Yeah, yeah, well yeah we did, and.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Then it got awkward.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Well it always got awkward high school dance for me.
Speaker 13 (45:57):
I'm just talking about when the song ramped up, like,
oh what do we do now?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Well, that's where I just held on. It didn't matter
like I was like, like.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
You're at a bronco, like you're a cowboy.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I'm just just told noun. I'm just told nuns. Yeah.
And then you know you'd have the Catholic dances and
then the nuns you just didn't want to mess with
them because they meant business and they had these clickers.
Did your nuns have clickers? Think they'd be like they
wanted to get your attention back. Then they wore the
(46:29):
habits and I was scared to death of them because
I was like, man, this is this is not going
to end well with Sister Anne. The principal spanked me
in front of everybody in fifth grade, big big long paddle,
got up in front, whacked me a couple of times.
(46:50):
Can't get away with that? Now, what was going They
really did that? I got kicked out of class. I
was talking to Tina Klein and she was in chatterbox
and I just was talking to her and I was
told to go out in the hall. So I went
in the hall and this and the principal, Sister Anne
was walking down the home and she said, what are
(47:11):
you doing in the hallway. I said, oh, I'm just
coming back from the bathroom. And so she stood there
and she says, aren't you going to open the door?
I said, well, I got kicked out of class. And
then she said, well, which is it? I said, I
got kicked out of class. Took me into class and
I had to bend over in front of everybody. What
(47:35):
and cracked me a couple of times. I had to
put my hands on my ankles and got whacked. It's
called the good old days now of them. Yeah, it's
just it's called good old fashioned discipline, is what it is.
Oh my god. And that's when you go home and
you tell your mom or dad and they go, yeah,
you probably deserved it, and be like, I got spanked
(47:58):
in front of the class.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, I was one generation past years. So we got
the option of detention suspension or swats they called them.
So it was either like a three day suspension you
go home, that's the biggie, or three swats and you
take the swats because it didn't get back to your parents.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I got my knuckles where you had to put them
on the desk and they took a ruler and they
got right on your knuckles, and it almost ruined my
jump shot. But you could assue I could have I
could have
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