July 30, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan thinks NFL teams would benefit more from controlled scrimmages than preseason games. And 3x Olympic gold medal winning Team USA Head Basketball Coach Mike Krzyzewski drops by to weigh in on the current squad and the state of basketball in the US.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's our two on this Tuesday. The great
Mike Skryzhevsky, he was there with the Dream Team. He
was there with Bob Knight in nineteen eighty four and
he will join us coming up in a little bit. Also,
you have women's gymnastics today, the finals for the gold
medal at Stake, more swimming, rugby, surfing, and they're postponing
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the triathlon now it looks like Wednesday because they have
some problems with the well, the water and the Send River.
Kind of a small problem there with the pollution that
you have there. We're going to talk to Jay Busby.
He is a writer for Yahoo's Sports. He's there covering
this event. But you know, they used to use the
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river back and I think nineteen hundred for a lot
of events, and then all of a sudden it got
worse and worse, and then they've spent over a billion
dollars to clean up the river for a couple of
events here, and I don't think there's a backup plan
for these events that are going to be in the
river at the Olympics. Eight seven seven three DP show
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email address dpadanpatrick dot com Twitter handle. A DP show
poll question for hour two is going to be what seed?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No counter? Yeah, we just put up there?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Should the NFL ad in game interviews with the coaches?
Right now, eighty eight percent of the audience say no,
I don't think we get anything out of it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But I'm not sure if Okay, let's look at from
the NFL's perspective, why would the NFL do this? If
you think you're not giving your audience something, You're doing
a disservice to the coaches, to the flow of the game,
to the broadcasters, and we at home watching the games
aren't getting anything out of this. There has to be
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a reason why they're doing this. I'd be curious about that. Todd,
why don't you send a note to Mike Florio just
say what is the NFL hoping to get out of
these in game interviews with the coaches? Because we don't
get anything from the interview prior to the game normally,
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or at halftime when they're walking off and you get
two questions at the you know the most, that's it? Yeah, Seden.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Is it the NFL requiring it or is it a
TV network saying Okay, fine, we'll pay you fifteen billion
dollars to have a Thursday night game, but what we
need you to do is get us access, sort.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Of like when Fox said, hey, we'll carry the All
Star Game. We have to have it mean something. So
whichever league wins that means you're representative in the World
Series gets home field advantage.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
To me, it seems much more likely that rather than
I don't know that Roger Goodell is like, you know,
what I want to see more when I watch is
more coaches interviews. I think it's more likely that the
networks are like, Okay, fine, you're going to charge us
all this money than we need all of this stuff
in return, and you're the guy who's going to do
it for us.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think that's a valid point. But you know, there's
a lot of things the NFL does that I don't understand,
but I'm sure the bottom line has to do with money.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
All those fails, well, it clearly has more to do
with the money than what fans want.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, because I don't know if we when's the last
time you go, wow, I learned something. If I'm a coach,
why would I tell you what second half adjustments we're
going to make hey, bad turnover there in the final seconds. Yeah,
it was how do you prevent turnovers in this Like
it's a really tough job because you're going to get
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a coach. Chances are you might get the coach who's losing,
might not be in a great mood, and then he's
got to stand there and you get to ask, you know,
one or two questions.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes, Tom, I've gotten to the point where I'm less
interested and entertained by what the coach is going to say,
and more about how rude they might be, where they
have like one foot in the locker room, and just
how cold they can actually be.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The reporters, well, as long as they don't go coach,
tell me about one of my pet peeves when it
comes to interviewing, Tell me about just to ask the question.
But I don't envy the sideline reporters. And now is
the interview coming from up above, from the broadcast booth
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down to the coach or is it going to be
a sideline reporter asking the coach right there in front
of you, Because now the coach has to put on
a headset, perhaps turn to the camera. The game is
going on. You should be, you know, talking to your
quarterback like I'm just I'm surprised. I just can't imagine
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a coach going yeah, uh waiting for my close up?
When are you guys going to interview me? Yes? Bar?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Do you think they'll do the same thing as the NBA,
where right after the first and third quarters they'll go
to each coach for one interview, and so right after
right after the first quarter ends, they grab the coach
and they talk to the coach during the commercial break,
and then they'll play it as the second quarter starts.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't want that. I mean, I I want you
on the sidelines in the moment if we're going to
do it, and then do it that way, I want
to know, you know, third and eight game on the line. Uh, coach,
what are you calling here? Or what do you think?
I mean? Do I want at the end of the
first quarter, it's like, well, how would you sum up
how your team play?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's going to go overwhelm with the coaches in the
fourth quarter? Hey, hey, hold on, hold.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
On, yes time, and at least, even if.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's a silly or poor question, at least put it
in the form of a question, as you were alluding
to before. You can't just say tough first half, coach
and then stick the microphone.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's not a question, thank you, coach. What went wrong there?
That's my favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, what went wrong in the first half, coach.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Let's see it's thirty to six?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, what do I start? But I love that you
think they're going to download you on everything they're going
to talk about, coach. What's the message you'd have done?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But at the same time, though, the idea that like
the coach is like, I don't have time for this
thirty second interview. I've got to get back into what
to what.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't have time. Come on, I'm trying to get
into the locker room. Rights, I have time. I don't
have time thirty seconds. I gotta yell at my team,
Yeah you got I gotta go yell at my team
is what I gotta do. Uh. I gotta take a
leak is what I gotta do. I don't want to
be answering a question. He here, Jill only scored a
lot more points than Oh it has to be dread.
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When you know, all of a sudden they get a
hold of the sideline reporter. Uh, yeah, who's okay? You
want me to talk to Belichick. Okay, okay, and then
you're just trying to hold on for dear life. But
the NFL wants this, or the networks want this, and
maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Eight seven seven three DP
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show email address dpat dan Patrick dot twitter handle at
DP show some numbers from draft kings with the favorite
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I also had who will lead the NFL in sacks
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Watt is your favorite, followed by Micah Parsons and Miles
Garretter Tide, Max Crosby, and johnsh Allen. What do we Football? Is?
Two days away Thursday, Thursday, Hall of Fame game ready
to go. And I thought maybe Caleb Williams was going
to be able to get in there for the Bears
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and get a few reps. Here is the Chicago Bears
number one overall pick.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I think I'm on track to be ready exactly where
you know I need to be and where they want
me to be. I'm excited every day I wake up
and one of some I'm new and so you know,
getting ready for you know, the season, preseason and these
you know, these these next practices. Very excited, Uh, still progressing,
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but we're we're towards the install right now for this
for this portion, which is very exciting to think that,
you know, not too long ago, I didn't know really
anything about this offense, and now you know, I know
a lot more than I did then. So progressing, excited
and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I would like to see him in there for
a couple of plays, and quarterbacks will talk about that,
especially when you're younger, of just getting that feel and
it might be for one series, but just getting that
feel where it's real and you know, then you get
that out of the way. I know, you don't want
to put him out there too long, but it feels
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it seems like he wants to be out there. Maybe
two series that I don't think it's going to make
or break Caleb Williams, but just to get out there,
get that feel it's your team, and then you kind
of take that with you. Then you go to the
sidelines and you know, you build on that, just that feeling.
I think that's really important. But most of these quarterbacks
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don't play. Nobody wants to play in preseason, and if
they reduce it by one more game, when they add
an eighteenth game, there's going to be less and less
involved in this. And I still believe you could accomplish
more by having controlled scrimmages against other teams. You could
bring in fans, you could you could you know, have
a home and away, you know that you can share
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at the gate because they're going to charge you, But
then you have controlled scrimmages and make your players accessible
to your fans. I think to me, it's a smarter
way to do this.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I know the owners want to pack in their stadiums
and get parking in concessions. I understand all of that,
but I think that the looking at the benefits from
a player or coach. I think the scrimmage is usually
when you're going against another team and are a couple
of times, and maybe you don't face them during the
regular season, but you get a chance to actually do
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some things in a game where you can stop practice
and say hey, we're going to run this again, to
have your your defense out there again. It's a controlled scrimmage.
When we watch preseason and look I'm all in favor
of these players who are trying to make the roster,
because that's what preseason is about. It's I'm a long shot.
I didn't get drafted. This is my only chance here,
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and you get a big stage to do that on
and you know a lot of guys depend on that.
So I certainly understand that. But as far as is
my team going to benefit from this, or if I
had Caleb Williams in a controlled scrimmage against the Atlanta Falcons, Okay,
be out there for a couple of series. We can
control what we're doing here, and you know, if you
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want to make sure that he doesn't get hurt, okay,
put on a you know, the red jersey there and
go out there and just take a couple of snaps.
Just get used to the feeling of that. I think
that's really the important part of this. Dan in Los Angeles, Hi, Dan,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (11:02):
I think?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Am I on there?
Speaker 9 (11:03):
That's Sam not Dan?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh? Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
I probably didn't say Clai enough. I was going back
to the sideline reporter. Oftentimes, if you notice in the NFL,
it's a really young, good looking, beautiful woman. I know
it's very shallow of us guys to think that way.
But I think it's hard for a coach to be
rude to someone like Aaron Andrews when she's staring at
you and asking you a question. That's oftentimes they feel
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kind of obligated. Well, I can't be short and mean
to this young lady because then I'm going to look
like a jerk. So I think that's kind of the
strategy they use as well.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, I'm sure that Aaron would have some war stories
there to tell you that these coaches, like coaches, get
into the game. They're not sitting there going wow, yeah,
I'm knee deep in all of this strategy. All there's
Aaron Andrews, she's pretty I'll talk to her. They're coaching
a game. The tension that's involved in this, there's only
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seven of these games during the regular season, and you
get caught up in it, rightfully, So it I'd like
to know how this is going to play out because
I I don't like it, but then I might be
in the minority once this starts. But asking the question
how many questions do I get? I get one, I'll
get two. Can I ask about a play like are
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there boundaries here. I don't know. It just seems like
it's a little looser than I would like. Let me
see Patrick in North Carolina. Then we'll take a break.
Mike shues Chef's keeble join us.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. Six ' three
and a surprising soft on s just down here walking
the mail route. Shout out Seaton and I want the
answers instead of these pointless NFL coaches questions or women's badminton.
I really want to know what you think the addition
of Justin Turner, it's our Mariner's lineup is going to
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mean what people want to know these days.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I didn't even know Justin Turner was on Toronto to
be traded. That's one of those where I went, all right,
Justin Turner, all right, still in the news there, But
thank you Patrick. I don't have an opinion yet, but
I will I will shortly. No hot take on Justin
Turner being traded. Mariner's fighting for that wildcard spot, weather
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making some moves, Randy A. Rosarina, they move right there.
Yeah it is, yes, Yes.
Speaker 10 (13:28):
Paul and Marlins are twenty six games out of first
right now in July. Okay, thirty nine and sixty seven.
But what about the Mariners. Yeah, oh I'm sorry, I
was uh Blue Jays by the way, thirteen games out.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, they had that all that young talent and it
hasn't paid off. Mariners are tied with the Houston Astros.
I like what the M's are doing. And bonus, we
found out what the Marlins are not doing this year.
All right, will take a break. Mike Kazhevski will join
us coming up next.
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
Hall of Fame Coach Special Advisor to NBA basketball operations
and won five titles at Duke. A time Coach of
the Year. Mike Krzyzewski back on the program, good morning, coach,
How you doing.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Good morning. Yeah, It's always good to spend time with you.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I was wondering about with all the Olympic teams that
you had, how do you divvy up playing time to
keep everybody happy.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Well, the only way everyone's going to be happy is
if we win. That's what I would tell each team.
The only thing anyone will ask ask you, did you win?
And so don't get caught up in minutes, shots or whatever.
Just be consumed with winning. And we actually had each
guy pledged that they would do anything that we wanted
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them to do to win. And then I tried to
get into like a nine man rotation sometimes ten, and
I pretty much had a starting unit the whole time
and four of the five championships, and then another unit,
not a complete unit. I never sub five for five,
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and Dan, I thought, I think a big thing is
for the really tough games, you have to have a
closing unit that would be a a nation of the
two and that formula will work really well. And I
mean guys like Tayshaun Prince, Michael Red, Carlos Boozer, even
Anthony Davis. They didn't play that much Anthony when he
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was a young player. And they're going to be two
or three guys who either won't play or will not
play that that much. But I think you got to
get to that quick.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
When you're building a roster, though, and you're playing a
different style of basketball. How much does that factor in
of international play as opposed to NBA play, Yeah, big time.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
You know, there's a huge difference in how the game's
administer You know, the ball's different. I know you as
a shooter or a profess shooter, you would have to
have time to get it. There's two more panels, it's
different color, it feels different, and so really getting accustomed
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to the nuances of the of the game are really important.
And I think a key thing is not to be positioned.
You know, one thing about our country, we have probably
the most positionless players. In other words, like a closing
unit in London for me was Durant, Kobe, Lebron, Carmelo
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and Chris Paul and Chris didn't play the point Kobe
or Lebron would have it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think I could have coached those guys to a
gold I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Well, you could have coached them. That doesn't mean you
would have won with them.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I would have. I think I would have coaching.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Them would But anyway, I think I never got caught
up in position, except like the big guy if you
were facing usually Serbia had really strong big guys. We
had to have a really tough center in there at
that time.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The mentality of Cod be versus Michael Jordan Uh in
practice at the Olympics, Uh, is there a discrepancy, Like
is there similarities that they sort of attacked when they
when they came in that practice was a game to them.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Now, I think they're probably two of the most similar
great players in the history of our game. I mean
in one day. Really you know, they were just super talented,
but they were also incredibly prepared and uh, I don't
think anybody was any more competitive than those two guys,
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you know, So they were that all the time. That
was their personality and when they were on the court
and it meant something, Uh, in practice or in a game,
they were all business. You know. They they wanted to
be great, not good. I mean, they wanted to win,
but uh, and they wanted moments. They were never afraid
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of a moment. They craved moments. I knew that more
about Kobe because he was on two of our teams
and I was the head coach, and if it was
a tough moment, he smiled like, all right, this is
what I prepared for. That other stuff was pretty easy,
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but this is this is who makes me, and he
came through. All the time.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
What Olympic team had the biggest impact on you, whether
it was coaching or personally.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Well, you know, I was an assistant on the Dream Team,
so I saw the magnificence of those guys and their
professionalism and how they brought the NBA culture at that
time into the Olympics. The teams I coached, starting with
the Beijing team to thousand and eight, the first team
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is always a little bit more special because you haven't
done it before, and we had not done it for
a while as a country. And then a number of
those guys, then five of them played again in twelve,
and then we won the World Championships in Istambul and
ten Durant was the star and we had a lot
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of young players and five guys from that team. We're
on the twenty twelve teams. So a keyword that Jerry Colanguell,
who ran USA Basketball and I embraced, was continuity. And
those guys gave it, and that's what Lebron is giving
right now. And Kevin Anthony Davis, Steph. You know a
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lot of people don't realize Steph was part of two
of our world championships in ten and fourteen, so he
understands international ball and he wants to win a gold medal.
Having those four veterans is huge h as far as
the continuity.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Aspect, talking to Mike Skushevsky go back to the Dream
Team and it felt like there was like tangible moments
where Bird and Magic and everybody else realized that all
of a sudden, Mike was the new sheriff in town
and that there was almost this begrudging handoff of that
guy's the best player in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, you know they weren't at the same age at that,
you know they you know, Jordan was more in his prime,
although he's always in his prime, and that's I shouldn't
even said that. You know, he was Jordan then, and uh,
where Larry has really had a lot of back problems then,
and Magic had been all out for a year, and
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so they not that they were at his level at
that time that if they were in their prime, all
three of them. Take those three guys to start any team.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
If you could pick one of those three, that one
would go to Duke when you were there.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Oh, I take it, any of them?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Know, you got it, you got first pick?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yeah, Well, who's going to stay for four years?
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, Jordan only stayed stayed for three. I wish he
had only stayed for one at Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
How about they're going to all stay for three years? Magic,
Larry or Mike.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
I can't pick one. Yeah, I can't pick one. I
love all three of those guys, Like you're talking about
three of at least in the top six or seven
in the history of the game. I mean, uh, Magic
is probably the best point guard ever. You know, Jordan
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may be the best player ever. Look, Kobe's right there
in Lebron and Larry was just unique, you know, like
he's and you talk about being a competitor. There aren't
as many players like that anymore. I'm telling you why,
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I don't know. I don't know, And not that there
isn't talent. But yeah, like I don't know if you
I saw something yesterday where the salaries and these guys
deserve it. Of our Olympic team for next year, the
guys on it are something like five hundred million dollars.
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When you combine for the year, you know, the twelve
guys on the Dream Team, it was thirty five million,
so for the whole team. And and so I don't
know if there there was you didn't just play for money.
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They love the game, and I wish we would have
I think we have a number of guys who love
the game, but in youth basketball and even college, but
I'm not sure the love of the game is the
impetus to be good all the time. Yeah, like Durant,
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Durant loves the game. Durant, if he's walking by a Jimmy,
he's got to go in and shoot, you know, he's
got to play every every day. And I wish that
I would see that more, you know, in the young
players now again, not that is there are players like that,
but it was almost like everyone was like that during
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that time period.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
When you look at the development of other countries, and
I don't know if if we need to kind of
reassess what we're teaching at the high school level, AAU level,
because what's happening. You know, you can make an argument
the four or five best player in the world didn't
play in the United States. Is that a concern, Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
And actually I'm working with the NBA now and one
of our committees is a Global Development Committee, and we're
about just over a year old, and we're trying to
change the One is to unify the game. Like the
game is played in many different ways in our country. Internationally,
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if you're in France or Italy, you play the game
the same. You know, there are four quarters, ten minutes.
You know, the men's college basketball was the most outline
of all of them, you know. And then many people
don't play with a shot clock. Many states don't have
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a shot clocks. And that's a mistake because you have
to learn to play the game you wanted to play
the game as that plays and play. So we're trying
to unify that and change how the American the young
American players being taught and coached. They play a lot
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of games, but they don't practice a lot. And you'd
be shocked and pleasantly shocked in like France, Germany, Lithuania,
of these countries from young age on, these kids are
really coached well and they're brought up the right way.
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Ours is still dan. Ours is based on a scholastic
system where you know, in other words, like for men's
college basketball, it's crazy you can practice twenty hours a
week in season and then you can't practice at certain times.
Then in the summer you can practice four hours a week.
(27:01):
You gotta be kidding me, like that has what the
hell's happening? You know, Like if a kid is playing
the piano or is in acting and he wants to
work sixty out he or she wants to work sixty
hours a week, no one's stopping them from doing. I
(27:22):
think it's the next once they get all this stuff.
Whenever they get the stuff done, whether they're contracted employees
or whatever they are, the next lawsuit is going to be.
You mean, I can't be coached more than twenty hours.
I mean, it's stupid, it really is. It's so so bad,
(27:46):
and we're trying to we're doing some things to try
to change that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Talking to Mike Shruszewski, the Hall of Famer Special Advisor
to NBA Basketball operations. Is Cooper Flag good enough to
make the Olympic team?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Not right now, but he will be, you know, hopefully
no injuries or whatever. You know, He's not only talented,
he has he has a love of the game. And
he is a competitive kid. I mean, he is as
competitive as any freshman that has come into Duke. And
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I'm not saying he's more competitive than some of the
elite guys we had, but as competitive and and he
has a game that translates. He doesn't have a position.
He's just a damn good basketball player and a winner.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Speaking of competitors, Christian Latner isn't in the Basketball Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
He's in the he is as a member of the
Dream Team.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Now I'm talking about individually. Why hasn't he had his
day just college career a loan.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Well, he's in the college basketball.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Hall of Fame, but the one in Springfield where yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
It's very difficult to uh get into this Naismith Basketball
Hall of Fame, and uh uh if I'm not sure
anybody's who's done it just with the college career. Uh.
In fact, that's why we started, just in the turn
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of this century, we started, Uh uh, the College Basketball
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Uh yeah, but college coaches get in there, so not many.
I mean, there's one of the top five college players
of all time? Would you say?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I agree? So, uh one, I'm sure he's been nominated,
and you go and through the selection process and you
know you uh, if they're the things would be given
more to an NBA player consideration than a collegiate player.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
And so that competition then is with probably somebody who
had a fifteen to eighteen year career. You know, it
was all NBA five times. And but I agree with you.
I mean, Christian was the winningest player we've ever had
(30:26):
a duke. He was the most competitive.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And don't you just want to hear that speech when
he gets inducted.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yeah, it'd be a good one. And I can just
say I'm coming up and he said, Yeah, this is
a great honor and I want to thank Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And he should.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah. Yeah. Are you only saying that because you want,
you know, him to be recognized. Yeah, to be recognized.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm surprised Moore don't recognize me in their whole Like
when Jordan was up there, I thought I'd give a
shout and get a shout out from him. I mean,
he roasted everybody. I thought he would give me a
shout out. But yeah, I guess that's partial for why
I went.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, well Christian, you know, Christian really understood the game.
And uh he he does some coaching now and in
camps and clinics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But he had a long NBA career as well. I
mean it wasn't decorated, but still.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Which takes away then from the consideration. In other words,
if it's a cut a continuance of the exces h
and so it doesn't add that you were in the NBA,
it's were you an All Star? Were you all? Did
you know? Did you make the first team defensive teams?
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Like?
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Uh, it's very difficult to get into the Naismith Hall
of Fame, it really is. And and uh, that doesn't
that's not a knock on Christian. Obviously, I love Christian
and he made me a hell of a coach.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, he helped you get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Coach he did, you know? As for a coach to
get in, we got a lot of help from a
lot of players.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I was wondering about when the Lakers were talking to
Dan Hurley. Yeah, and you were advising the Lakers. I
believe H just insulting.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Rob Polinka and I are friends. But no, I wasn't consulting.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh so you didn't have any say in Dan Hurley
or JJ.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
No I talked. I never talked to the Lakers about
Danny and Danny and actually has on the phone with
Danny last night for about an hour about uh, changing
college basketball and his family.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
There need to change it. He's winning coach.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
No, No, you have to always look at improving it.
But no, I talked to Polenka, you know, Rob and
JJ during that part process. Of course I did you know. Uh,
it'd be that would be wrong if I didn't. But
I wasn't a consultant. Okay, yeah, I mean that that
(33:12):
that's taken it a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Far, giving you a little too much credit. There Is
there anything interesting in the office? Is this like the
main office where you have all the awards and like
people can come in and see how great you are.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
This is my conference room. You know I still work
at Duke. If you should come in my office, I
don't have all that busy stuff that you have on
your desk. I have really like accomplishments. Your desk is
a wanna be. You know, my desk is a be.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay. If I come in your office, I would probably
steal something. We have cameras, it doesn't matter. I'm out
the door. I'm gonna maybe I would take your high
school jersey. Didn't you leave the city of Chicago and school,
so you probably had that framed there in your office.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Just a Catholic league.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, but you still led the Catholic League in scoring?
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Right, But no, I don't have any high school things up. Okay,
I have West Point things us a duke and uh
my office is pretty pretty neat. And you're you're invited
to come at any time.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Anytime, anytime, anytime.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
You have to have somebody in the office with you
while you're here.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well why not you?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
No, Well I may not be here, I got so
I say any time. Yeah, and anytime you could you
could come.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
In, okay, and I.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Could where you would get lost in memories of all
the being the nostalgic person that you are.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Do you think I would openly weep if I was
in your office and soul.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
From from joy I can't believe this happened? Okay, And
that happened, and that happened. I'm getting I'm getting emotional
just thinking about it, right, Coach, I didn't realize Yeah
he did all that. Yeah, you think it would walk
out in wonderment.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, I'm glad you're doing well and I always going
to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
So, by the way, I'm headed off to Napa. I
host a vwine celebration there. It's raised in the last
twenty five years one hundred and sixty million to fight cancer,
and we're going to raise probably twelve to fifteen million
this weekend. It's a great grade event in Napa Valley.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's a little late notice for me to go, but
I know what you're doing, Like, is this a fake invite?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Yeah? Do you do you ever drink wine?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes? I do?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Okay, ye, specials like red white cabs.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You know. Yeah. Wait did you say South bron No, oh,
I thought you said South Bronx. I'm like Bronx.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Do you do your bottles have quarks?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yes? They do? Okay, but you can get like Australia.
I mean they have the twist off and there's nothing
wrong with that, Coach.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
No, In fact, that shows me, you know a little
bit more than I thought you know about.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Wine, Thank you, coach. And you know who you should.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Get on the show. Who really who was a great
friend and really knows whine from coaches is Pop Greg Popovich.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He doesn't. I've been trying for twenty years to get Pop.
He doesn't do this stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah he's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh I hear that, but I'll never know that. So
I'm going to take care of you great. Yeah, put
in a good word for me. We'll talk just wine.
I won't talk anything else other than why.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
He'll knock your socks off with wine.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Save travels to NAPA And thanks again for the faux invite.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
And you know, I'm going to take a picture pictures
of my office and send them.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
That'd be nice. That'd be nice, coach.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
It'd be like a wish list the dream. Yeah, yeah,
like you know those places that you have not visited before. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Winners, Yeah, yes, you're right, thank you, coach. That's Mike
Skushevski won three gold medals his team USA's head coach.
Sounded like an invitation, but not really an invitation. Invitation,
yea invitation.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
But you want to go right there?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I just figured that that's that's what he's kind of
doing to you.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, I think you'd want to go.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
But if you're around.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Now, he knows that I know a little bit about wine.
Uh maybe next time.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I got a friend who's in the wine business, he said,
Greg Popovich is an investor in an Oregon winery, and uh,
I guess Chardonnay and Pinot noir. They make a private
label just for him. So I'd love to talk wine
with pop. And I remember being at an NBA finals
(38:09):
and some players who played for him went out to
dinner with some people who worked on the NBA show
with me, and they're like, man, you would love It's
like with Belichick, Man, you would love Pop And I go, yeah,
I guess, God, No, he's fun. Man, he's fun. He
just doesn't like the media. I go, well, that doesn't
bode well for me, but yeah, that'd be great. It's
(38:31):
like when we said we'd have Belichick on only to
talk about the Naval Academy, and we almost got him
just because we weren't going to talk about anything else
the Naval Academy. We reached out to Mike Florio because
I said, who asked for this in game interview with
the coaches? And Florio says, according to what he's found out,
(38:53):
the fans wanted this for the NFL things. Yeah, so
the fans wanted this. No, the networks wanted this. The
fans are going to have to just accept it. The
new NFL on sidekick rules are locked and loaded now,
so we know exactly what it's going to be.
Speaker 10 (39:12):
Paul, Yeah, these have been rumored for a while, but
they're official, and they're kind of tough. On side kicks
are illegal before the fourth quarter. That was not part
of the initial rumored and yeah, rule change. The team
must be losing to kick an on side kick and
that's another one that was rumored but not locked in.
(39:33):
And then the team must announce their intention to kick
an on side kick ahead of time.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But okay, what kind of onside kick is? Is this
going back to the traditional on sidekick.
Speaker 10 (39:44):
It's closer, it's not the full run up like it
used to be, but this is the way to keep
it technically in the game, but de emphasize it to
the point of you have to be losing and it
has to be the fourth quarter and you have to
broadcast it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We're gonna have an on side kick.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
Remember the Saints in the Super Bowl. Who knows if
they're winning or losing at the time, but you would
remove the option of us a double surprise on side
kick because you're winning.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well, they did it to start the second half, and
that's surprised everybody watching that and it won a Super
Bowl for the Sames.
Speaker 10 (40:16):
What We've been watching football a long time. I cannot
ever remember a rash of injuries on the on side
kick that caused everyone to freak out, and now the
play is basically on life support.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well, it does feel like it's right for an injury,
because if I get to do the run up and
you're there waiting for a ball, you know, and then
you're going to hit a blocker. I mean it feels
I'm surprised there haven't been a lot of injuries on
on side kicks. But if I have to stand here
and I don't get a runner up a run up there, yeah, ton.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
And if you're going to do a run play on
third and three or longer, you have to let the
defense know that it's going to be run.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Then it's not the case.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Ton.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's ridiculous, every one of those things, and we were
just talking about the on side kick.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
That's all ridiculous. All three of those elements.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Were once again, that's why you're the Minister of humor.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
We're gonna run here.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
We're just talking about the onside Kickton. No, well, I'm
in a surprise and just talking about the onside Kickton
Final hour on this Tuesday Straight Ahead
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's our two on this Tuesday. The great
Mike Skryzhevsky, he was there with the Dream Team. He
was there with Bob Knight in nineteen eighty four and
he will join us coming up in a little bit. Also,
you have women's gymnastics today, the finals for the gold
medal at Stake, more swimming, rugby, surfing, and they're postponing
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the triathlon now it looks like Wednesday because they have
some problems with the well, the water and the Send River.
Kind of a small problem there with the pollution that
you have there. We're going to talk to Jay Busby.
He is a writer for Yahoo's Sports. He's there covering
this event. But you know, they used to use the
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river back and I think nineteen hundred for a lot
of events, and then all of a sudden it got
worse and worse, and then they've spent over a billion
dollars to clean up the river for a couple of
events here, and I don't think there's a backup plan
for these events that are going to be in the
river at the Olympics. Eight seven seven three DP show
(01:09):
email address dpadanpatrick dot com Twitter handle. A DP show
poll question for hour two is going to be what seed?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No counter? Yeah, we just put up there?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Should the NFL ad in game interviews with the coaches?
Right now, eighty eight percent of the audience say no,
I don't think we get anything out of it.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But I'm not sure if Okay, let's look at from
the NFL's perspective, why would the NFL do this? If
you think you're not giving your audience something, You're doing
a disservice to the coaches, to the flow of the game,
to the broadcasters, and we at home watching the games
aren't getting anything out of this. There has to be
(01:55):
a reason why they're doing this. I'd be curious about that. Todd,
why don't you send a note to Mike Florio just
say what is the NFL hoping to get out of
these in game interviews with the coaches? Because we don't
get anything from the interview prior to the game normally,
(02:15):
or at halftime when they're walking off and you get
two questions at the you know the most, that's it? Yeah, Seden.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Is it the NFL requiring it or is it a
TV network saying Okay, fine, we'll pay you fifteen billion
dollars to have a Thursday night game, but what we
need you to do is get us access, sort.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Of like when Fox said, hey, we'll carry the All
Star Game. We have to have it mean something. So
whichever league wins that means you're representative in the World
Series gets home field advantage.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
To me, it seems much more likely that rather than
I don't know that Roger Goodell is like, you know,
what I want to see more when I watch is
more coaches interviews. I think it's more likely that the
networks are like, Okay, fine, you're going to charge us
all this money than we need all of this stuff
in return, and you're the guy who's going to do
it for us.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think that's a valid point. But you know, there's
a lot of things the NFL does that I don't understand,
but I'm sure the bottom line has to do with money.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
All those fails, well, it clearly has more to do
with the money than what fans want.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, because I don't know if we when's the last
time you go, wow, I learned something. If I'm a coach,
why would I tell you what second half adjustments we're
going to make hey, bad turnover there in the final seconds. Yeah,
it was how do you prevent turnovers in this Like
it's a really tough job because you're going to get
(03:37):
a coach. Chances are you might get the coach who's losing,
might not be in a great mood, and then he's
got to stand there and you get to ask, you know,
one or two questions.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes, Tom, I've gotten to the point where I'm less
interested and entertained by what the coach is going to say,
and more about how rude they might be, where they
have like one foot in the locker room, and just
how cold they can actually be.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The reporters, well, as long as they don't go coach,
tell me about one of my pet peeves when it
comes to interviewing, Tell me about just to ask the question.
But I don't envy the sideline reporters. And now is
the interview coming from up above, from the broadcast booth
(04:18):
down to the coach or is it going to be
a sideline reporter asking the coach right there in front
of you, Because now the coach has to put on
a headset, perhaps turn to the camera. The game is
going on. You should be, you know, talking to your
quarterback like I'm just I'm surprised. I just can't imagine
(04:41):
a coach going yeah, uh waiting for my close up?
When are you guys going to interview me? Yes? Bar?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Do you think they'll do the same thing as the NBA,
where right after the first and third quarters they'll go
to each coach for one interview, and so right after
right after the first quarter ends, they grab the coach
and they talk to the coach during the commercial break,
and then they'll play it as the second quarter starts.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't want that. I mean, I I want you
on the sidelines in the moment if we're going to
do it, and then do it that way, I want
to know, you know, third and eight game on the line. Uh, coach,
what are you calling here? Or what do you think?
I mean? Do I want at the end of the
first quarter, it's like, well, how would you sum up
how your team play?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's going to go overwhelm with the coaches in the
fourth quarter? Hey, hey, hold on, hold.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
On, yes time, and at least, even if.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's a silly or poor question, at least put it
in the form of a question, as you were alluding
to before. You can't just say tough first half, coach
and then stick the microphone.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's not a question, thank you, coach. What went wrong there?
That's my favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, what went wrong in the first half, coach.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Let's see it's thirty to six?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, what do I start? But I love that you
think they're going to download you on everything they're going
to talk about, coach. What's the message you'd have done?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But at the same time, though, the idea that like
the coach is like, I don't have time for this
thirty second interview. I've got to get back into what
to what.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't have time. Come on, I'm trying to get
into the locker room. Rights, I have time. I don't
have time thirty seconds. I gotta yell at my team,
Yeah you got I gotta go yell at my team
is what I gotta do. Uh. I gotta take a
leak is what I gotta do. I don't want to
be answering a question. He here, Jill only scored a
lot more points than Oh it has to be dread.
(06:34):
When you know, all of a sudden they get a
hold of the sideline reporter. Uh, yeah, who's okay? You
want me to talk to Belichick. Okay, okay, and then
you're just trying to hold on for dear life. But
the NFL wants this, or the networks want this, and
maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Eight seven seven three DP
(06:58):
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Watt is your favorite, followed by Micah Parsons and Miles
Garretter Tide, Max Crosby, and johnsh Allen. What do we Football? Is?
Two days away Thursday, Thursday, Hall of Fame game ready
to go. And I thought maybe Caleb Williams was going
to be able to get in there for the Bears
(07:41):
and get a few reps. Here is the Chicago Bears
number one overall pick.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I think I'm on track to be ready exactly where
you know I need to be and where they want
me to be. I'm excited every day I wake up
and one of some I'm new and so you know,
getting ready for you know, the season, preseason and these
you know, these these next practices. Very excited, Uh, still progressing,
(08:08):
but we're we're towards the install right now for this
for this portion, which is very exciting to think that,
you know, not too long ago, I didn't know really
anything about this offense, and now you know, I know
a lot more than I did then. So progressing, excited
and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I would like to see him in there for
a couple of plays, and quarterbacks will talk about that,
especially when you're younger, of just getting that feel and
it might be for one series, but just getting that
feel where it's real and you know, then you get
that out of the way. I know, you don't want
to put him out there too long, but it feels
(08:44):
it seems like he wants to be out there. Maybe
two series that I don't think it's going to make
or break Caleb Williams, but just to get out there,
get that feel it's your team, and then you kind
of take that with you. Then you go to the
sidelines and you know, you build on that, just that feeling.
I think that's really important. But most of these quarterbacks
(09:05):
don't play. Nobody wants to play in preseason, and if
they reduce it by one more game, when they add
an eighteenth game, there's going to be less and less
involved in this. And I still believe you could accomplish
more by having controlled scrimmages against other teams. You could
bring in fans, you could you could you know, have
a home and away, you know that you can share
(09:27):
at the gate because they're going to charge you, But
then you have controlled scrimmages and make your players accessible
to your fans. I think to me, it's a smarter
way to do this.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I know the owners want to pack in their stadiums
and get parking in concessions. I understand all of that,
but I think that the looking at the benefits from
a player or coach. I think the scrimmage is usually
when you're going against another team and are a couple
of times, and maybe you don't face them during the
regular season, but you get a chance to actually do
(10:00):
some things in a game where you can stop practice
and say hey, we're going to run this again, to
have your your defense out there again. It's a controlled scrimmage.
When we watch preseason and look I'm all in favor
of these players who are trying to make the roster,
because that's what preseason is about. It's I'm a long shot.
I didn't get drafted. This is my only chance here,
(10:23):
and you get a big stage to do that on
and you know a lot of guys depend on that.
So I certainly understand that. But as far as is
my team going to benefit from this, or if I
had Caleb Williams in a controlled scrimmage against the Atlanta Falcons, Okay,
be out there for a couple of series. We can
control what we're doing here, and you know, if you
(10:46):
want to make sure that he doesn't get hurt, okay,
put on a you know, the red jersey there and
go out there and just take a couple of snaps.
Just get used to the feeling of that. I think
that's really the important part of this. Dan in Los Angeles, Hi, Dan,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (11:02):
I think?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Am I on there?
Speaker 9 (11:03):
That's Sam not Dan?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh? Okay, that's all right.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
I probably didn't say Clai enough. I was going back
to the sideline reporter. Oftentimes, if you notice in the NFL,
it's a really young, good looking, beautiful woman. I know
it's very shallow of us guys to think that way.
But I think it's hard for a coach to be
rude to someone like Aaron Andrews when she's staring at
you and asking you a question. That's oftentimes they feel
(11:29):
kind of obligated. Well, I can't be short and mean
to this young lady because then I'm going to look
like a jerk. So I think that's kind of the
strategy they use as well.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, I'm sure that Aaron would have some war stories
there to tell you that these coaches, like coaches, get
into the game. They're not sitting there going wow, yeah,
I'm knee deep in all of this strategy. All there's
Aaron Andrews, she's pretty I'll talk to her. They're coaching
a game. The tension that's involved in this, there's only
(11:59):
seven of these games during the regular season, and you
get caught up in it, rightfully, So it I'd like
to know how this is going to play out because
I I don't like it, but then I might be
in the minority once this starts. But asking the question
how many questions do I get? I get one, I'll
get two. Can I ask about a play like are
(12:22):
there boundaries here. I don't know. It just seems like
it's a little looser than I would like. Let me
see Patrick in North Carolina. Then we'll take a break.
Mike shues Chef's keeble join us.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call. Six ' three
and a surprising soft on s just down here walking
the mail route. Shout out Seaton and I want the
answers instead of these pointless NFL coaches questions or women's badminton.
I really want to know what you think the addition
of Justin Turner, it's our Mariner's lineup is going to
(12:57):
mean what people want to know these days.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I didn't even know Justin Turner was on Toronto to
be traded. That's one of those where I went, all right,
Justin Turner, all right, still in the news there, But
thank you Patrick. I don't have an opinion yet, but
I will I will shortly. No hot take on Justin
Turner being traded. Mariner's fighting for that wildcard spot, weather
(13:22):
making some moves, Randy A. Rosarina, they move right there.
Yeah it is, yes, Yes.
Speaker 10 (13:28):
Paul and Marlins are twenty six games out of first
right now in July. Okay, thirty nine and sixty seven.
But what about the Mariners. Yeah, oh I'm sorry, I
was uh Blue Jays by the way, thirteen games out.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, they had that all that young talent and it
hasn't paid off. Mariners are tied with the Houston Astros.
I like what the M's are doing. And bonus, we
found out what the Marlins are not doing this year.
All right, will take a break. Mike Kazhevski will join
us coming up next.
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Speaker 1 (14:26):
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
Hall of Fame Coach Special Advisor to NBA basketball operations
and won five titles at Duke. A time Coach of
the Year. Mike Krzyzewski back on the program, good morning, coach,
How you doing.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Good morning. Yeah, It's always good to spend time with you.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I was wondering about with all the Olympic teams that
you had, how do you divvy up playing time to
keep everybody happy.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Well, the only way everyone's going to be happy is
if we win. That's what I would tell each team.
The only thing anyone will ask ask you, did you win?
And so don't get caught up in minutes, shots or whatever.
Just be consumed with winning. And we actually had each
guy pledged that they would do anything that we wanted
(15:28):
them to do to win. And then I tried to
get into like a nine man rotation sometimes ten, and
I pretty much had a starting unit the whole time
and four of the five championships, and then another unit,
not a complete unit. I never sub five for five,
(15:51):
and Dan, I thought, I think a big thing is
for the really tough games, you have to have a
closing unit that would be a a nation of the
two and that formula will work really well. And I
mean guys like Tayshaun Prince, Michael Red, Carlos Boozer, even
Anthony Davis. They didn't play that much Anthony when he
(16:13):
was a young player. And they're going to be two
or three guys who either won't play or will not
play that that much. But I think you got to
get to that quick.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
When you're building a roster, though, and you're playing a
different style of basketball. How much does that factor in
of international play as opposed to NBA play, Yeah, big time.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
You know, there's a huge difference in how the game's
administer You know, the ball's different. I know you as
a shooter or a profess shooter, you would have to
have time to get it. There's two more panels, it's
different color, it feels different, and so really getting accustomed
(17:01):
to the nuances of the of the game are really important.
And I think a key thing is not to be positioned.
You know, one thing about our country, we have probably
the most positionless players. In other words, like a closing
unit in London for me was Durant, Kobe, Lebron, Carmelo
(17:26):
and Chris Paul and Chris didn't play the point Kobe
or Lebron would have it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think I could have coached those guys to a
gold I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Well, you could have coached them. That doesn't mean you
would have won with them.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, I would have. I think I would have coaching.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Them would But anyway, I think I never got caught
up in position, except like the big guy if you
were facing usually Serbia had really strong big guys. We
had to have a really tough center in there at
that time.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The mentality of Cod be versus Michael Jordan Uh in
practice at the Olympics, Uh, is there a discrepancy, Like
is there similarities that they sort of attacked when they
when they came in that practice was a game to them.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Now, I think they're probably two of the most similar
great players in the history of our game. I mean
in one day. Really you know, they were just super talented,
but they were also incredibly prepared and uh, I don't
think anybody was any more competitive than those two guys,
(18:40):
you know, So they were that all the time. That
was their personality and when they were on the court
and it meant something, Uh, in practice or in a game,
they were all business. You know. They they wanted to
be great, not good. I mean, they wanted to win,
but uh, and they wanted moments. They were never afraid
(19:02):
of a moment. They craved moments. I knew that more
about Kobe because he was on two of our teams
and I was the head coach, and if it was
a tough moment, he smiled like, all right, this is
what I prepared for. That other stuff was pretty easy,
(19:26):
but this is this is who makes me, and he
came through. All the time.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
What Olympic team had the biggest impact on you, whether
it was coaching or personally.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Well, you know, I was an assistant on the Dream Team,
so I saw the magnificence of those guys and their
professionalism and how they brought the NBA culture at that
time into the Olympics. The teams I coached, starting with
the Beijing team to thousand and eight, the first team
(20:02):
is always a little bit more special because you haven't
done it before, and we had not done it for
a while as a country. And then a number of
those guys, then five of them played again in twelve,
and then we won the World Championships in Istambul and
ten Durant was the star and we had a lot
(20:24):
of young players and five guys from that team. We're
on the twenty twelve teams. So a keyword that Jerry Colanguell,
who ran USA Basketball and I embraced, was continuity. And
those guys gave it, and that's what Lebron is giving
right now. And Kevin Anthony Davis, Steph. You know a
(20:48):
lot of people don't realize Steph was part of two
of our world championships in ten and fourteen, so he
understands international ball and he wants to win a gold medal.
Having those four veterans is huge h as far as
the continuity.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Aspect, talking to Mike Skushevsky go back to the Dream
Team and it felt like there was like tangible moments
where Bird and Magic and everybody else realized that all
of a sudden, Mike was the new sheriff in town
and that there was almost this begrudging handoff of that
guy's the best player in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, you know they weren't at the same age at that,
you know they you know, Jordan was more in his prime,
although he's always in his prime, and that's I shouldn't
even said that. You know, he was Jordan then, and uh,
where Larry has really had a lot of back problems then,
and Magic had been all out for a year, and
(21:48):
so they not that they were at his level at
that time that if they were in their prime, all
three of them. Take those three guys to start any team.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
If you could pick one of those three, that one
would go to Duke when you were there.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Oh, I take it, any of them?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Know, you got it, you got first pick?
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yeah, Well, who's going to stay for four years?
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Yeah, Jordan only stayed stayed for three. I wish he
had only stayed for one at Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
How about they're going to all stay for three years? Magic,
Larry or Mike.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
I can't pick one. Yeah, I can't pick one. I
love all three of those guys, Like you're talking about
three of at least in the top six or seven
in the history of the game. I mean, uh, Magic
is probably the best point guard ever. You know, Jordan
(22:55):
may be the best player ever. Look, Kobe's right there
in Lebron and Larry was just unique, you know, like
he's and you talk about being a competitor. There aren't
as many players like that anymore. I'm telling you why,
(23:15):
I don't know. I don't know, And not that there
isn't talent. But yeah, like I don't know if you
I saw something yesterday where the salaries and these guys
deserve it. Of our Olympic team for next year, the
guys on it are something like five hundred million dollars.
(23:37):
When you combine for the year, you know, the twelve
guys on the Dream Team, it was thirty five million,
so for the whole team. And and so I don't
know if there there was you didn't just play for money.
(23:59):
They love the game, and I wish we would have
I think we have a number of guys who love
the game, but in youth basketball and even college, but
I'm not sure the love of the game is the
impetus to be good all the time. Yeah, like Durant,
(24:21):
Durant loves the game. Durant, if he's walking by a Jimmy,
he's got to go in and shoot, you know, he's
got to play every every day. And I wish that
I would see that more, you know, in the young
players now again, not that is there are players like that,
but it was almost like everyone was like that during
(24:44):
that time period.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
When you look at the development of other countries, and
I don't know if if we need to kind of
reassess what we're teaching at the high school level, AAU level,
because what's happening. You know, you can make an argument
the four or five best player in the world didn't
play in the United States. Is that a concern, Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
And actually I'm working with the NBA now and one
of our committees is a Global Development Committee, and we're
about just over a year old, and we're trying to
change the One is to unify the game. Like the
game is played in many different ways in our country. Internationally,
(25:29):
if you're in France or Italy, you play the game
the same. You know, there are four quarters, ten minutes.
You know, the men's college basketball was the most outline
of all of them, you know. And then many people
don't play with a shot clock. Many states don't have
(25:52):
a shot clocks. And that's a mistake because you have
to learn to play the game you wanted to play
the game as that plays and play. So we're trying
to unify that and change how the American the young
American players being taught and coached. They play a lot
(26:17):
of games, but they don't practice a lot. And you'd
be shocked and pleasantly shocked in like France, Germany, Lithuania,
of these countries from young age on, these kids are
really coached well and they're brought up the right way.
(26:39):
Ours is still dan. Ours is based on a scholastic
system where you know, in other words, like for men's
college basketball, it's crazy you can practice twenty hours a
week in season and then you can't practice at certain times.
Then in the summer you can practice four hours a week.
(27:01):
You gotta be kidding me, like that has what the
hell's happening? You know, Like if a kid is playing
the piano or is in acting and he wants to
work sixty out he or she wants to work sixty
hours a week, no one's stopping them from doing. I
(27:22):
think it's the next once they get all this stuff.
Whenever they get the stuff done, whether they're contracted employees
or whatever they are, the next lawsuit is going to be.
You mean, I can't be coached more than twenty hours.
I mean, it's stupid, it really is. It's so so bad,
(27:46):
and we're trying to we're doing some things to try
to change that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Talking to Mike Shruszewski, the Hall of Famer Special Advisor
to NBA Basketball operations. Is Cooper Flag good enough to
make the Olympic team?
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Not right now, but he will be, you know, hopefully
no injuries or whatever. You know, He's not only talented,
he has he has a love of the game. And
he is a competitive kid. I mean, he is as
competitive as any freshman that has come into Duke. And
(28:23):
I'm not saying he's more competitive than some of the
elite guys we had, but as competitive and and he
has a game that translates. He doesn't have a position.
He's just a damn good basketball player and a winner.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Speaking of competitors, Christian Latner isn't in the Basketball Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
He's in the he is as a member of the
Dream Team.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Now I'm talking about individually. Why hasn't he had his
day just college career a loan.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Well, he's in the college basketball.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Hall of Fame, but the one in Springfield where yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
It's very difficult to uh get into this Naismith Basketball
Hall of Fame, and uh uh if I'm not sure
anybody's who's done it just with the college career. Uh.
In fact, that's why we started, just in the turn
(29:24):
of this century, we started, Uh uh, the College Basketball
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Uh yeah, but college coaches get in there, so not many.
I mean, there's one of the top five college players
of all time? Would you say?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I agree? So, uh one, I'm sure he's been nominated,
and you go and through the selection process and you
know you uh, if they're the things would be given
more to an NBA player consideration than a collegiate player.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
And so that competition then is with probably somebody who
had a fifteen to eighteen year career. You know, it
was all NBA five times. And but I agree with you.
I mean, Christian was the winningest player we've ever had
(30:26):
a duke. He was the most competitive.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
And don't you just want to hear that speech when
he gets inducted.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yeah, it'd be a good one. And I can just
say I'm coming up and he said, Yeah, this is
a great honor and I want to thank Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And he should.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah. Yeah. Are you only saying that because you want,
you know, him to be recognized. Yeah, to be recognized.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm surprised Moore don't recognize me in their whole Like
when Jordan was up there, I thought I'd give a
shout and get a shout out from him. I mean,
he roasted everybody. I thought he would give me a
shout out. But yeah, I guess that's partial for why
I went.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, well Christian, you know, Christian really understood the game.
And uh he he does some coaching now and in
camps and clinics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But he had a long NBA career as well. I
mean it wasn't decorated, but still.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Which takes away then from the consideration. In other words,
if it's a cut a continuance of the exces h
and so it doesn't add that you were in the NBA,
it's were you an All Star? Were you all? Did
you know? Did you make the first team defensive teams?
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Like?
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Uh, it's very difficult to get into the Naismith Hall
of Fame, it really is. And and uh, that doesn't
that's not a knock on Christian. Obviously, I love Christian
and he made me a hell of a coach.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, he helped you get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Coach he did, you know? As for a coach to
get in, we got a lot of help from a
lot of players.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I was wondering about when the Lakers were talking to
Dan Hurley. Yeah, and you were advising the Lakers. I
believe H just insulting.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Rob Polinka and I are friends. But no, I wasn't consulting.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Oh so you didn't have any say in Dan Hurley
or JJ.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
No I talked. I never talked to the Lakers about
Danny and Danny and actually has on the phone with
Danny last night for about an hour about uh, changing
college basketball and his family.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
There need to change it. He's winning coach.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
No, No, you have to always look at improving it.
But no, I talked to Polenka, you know, Rob and
JJ during that part process. Of course I did you know. Uh,
it'd be that would be wrong if I didn't. But
I wasn't a consultant. Okay, yeah, I mean that that
(33:12):
that's taken it a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Far, giving you a little too much credit. There Is
there anything interesting in the office? Is this like the
main office where you have all the awards and like
people can come in and see how great you are.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
This is my conference room. You know I still work
at Duke. If you should come in my office, I
don't have all that busy stuff that you have on
your desk. I have really like accomplishments. Your desk is
a wanna be. You know, my desk is a be.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay. If I come in your office, I would probably
steal something. We have cameras, it doesn't matter. I'm out
the door. I'm gonna maybe I would take your high
school jersey. Didn't you leave the city of Chicago and school,
so you probably had that framed there in your office.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Just a Catholic league.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, but you still led the Catholic League in scoring?
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Right, But no, I don't have any high school things up. Okay,
I have West Point things us a duke and uh
my office is pretty pretty neat. And you're you're invited
to come at any time.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Anytime, anytime, anytime.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
You have to have somebody in the office with you
while you're here.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well why not you?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
No, Well I may not be here, I got so
I say any time. Yeah, and anytime you could you
could come.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
In, okay, and I.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Could where you would get lost in memories of all
the being the nostalgic person that you are.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Do you think I would openly weep if I was
in your office and soul.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
From from joy I can't believe this happened? Okay, And
that happened, and that happened. I'm getting I'm getting emotional
just thinking about it, right, Coach, I didn't realize Yeah
he did all that. Yeah, you think it would walk
out in wonderment.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, I'm glad you're doing well and I always going
to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
So, by the way, I'm headed off to Napa. I
host a vwine celebration there. It's raised in the last
twenty five years one hundred and sixty million to fight cancer,
and we're going to raise probably twelve to fifteen million
this weekend. It's a great grade event in Napa Valley.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's a little late notice for me to go, but
I know what you're doing, Like, is this a fake invite?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Yeah? Do you do you ever drink wine?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes? I do?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Okay, ye, specials like red white cabs.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You know. Yeah. Wait did you say South bron No, oh,
I thought you said South Bronx. I'm like Bronx.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Do you do your bottles have quarks?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yes? They do? Okay, but you can get like Australia.
I mean they have the twist off and there's nothing
wrong with that, Coach.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
No, In fact, that shows me, you know a little
bit more than I thought you know about.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Wine, Thank you, coach. And you know who you should.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Get on the show. Who really who was a great
friend and really knows whine from coaches is Pop Greg Popovich.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He doesn't. I've been trying for twenty years to get Pop.
He doesn't do this stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah he's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh I hear that, but I'll never know that. So
I'm going to take care of you great. Yeah, put
in a good word for me. We'll talk just wine.
I won't talk anything else other than why.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
He'll knock your socks off with wine.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Save travels to NAPA And thanks again for the faux invite.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
And you know, I'm going to take a picture pictures
of my office and send them.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
That'd be nice. That'd be nice, coach.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
It'd be like a wish list the dream. Yeah, yeah,
like you know those places that you have not visited before. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Winners, Yeah, yes, you're right, thank you, coach. That's Mike
Skushevski won three gold medals his team USA's head coach.
Sounded like an invitation, but not really an invitation. Invitation,
yea invitation.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
But you want to go right there?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I just figured that that's that's what he's kind of
doing to you.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, I think you'd want to go.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
But if you're around.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Now, he knows that I know a little bit about wine.
Uh maybe next time.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I got a friend who's in the wine business, he said,
Greg Popovich is an investor in an Oregon winery, and uh,
I guess Chardonnay and Pinot noir. They make a private
label just for him. So I'd love to talk wine
with pop. And I remember being at an NBA finals
(38:09):
and some players who played for him went out to
dinner with some people who worked on the NBA show
with me, and they're like, man, you would love It's
like with Belichick, Man, you would love Pop And I go, yeah,
I guess, God, No, he's fun. Man, he's fun. He
just doesn't like the media. I go, well, that doesn't
bode well for me, but yeah, that'd be great. It's
(38:31):
like when we said we'd have Belichick on only to
talk about the Naval Academy, and we almost got him
just because we weren't going to talk about anything else
the Naval Academy. We reached out to Mike Florio because
I said, who asked for this in game interview with
the coaches? And Florio says, according to what he's found out,
(38:53):
the fans wanted this for the NFL things. Yeah, so
the fans wanted this. No, the networks wanted this. The
fans are going to have to just accept it. The
new NFL on sidekick rules are locked and loaded now,
so we know exactly what it's going to be.
Speaker 10 (39:12):
Paul, Yeah, these have been rumored for a while, but
they're official, and they're kind of tough. On side kicks
are illegal before the fourth quarter. That was not part
of the initial rumored and yeah, rule change. The team
must be losing to kick an on side kick and
that's another one that was rumored but not locked in.
(39:33):
And then the team must announce their intention to kick
an on side kick ahead of time.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But okay, what kind of onside kick is? Is this
going back to the traditional on sidekick.
Speaker 10 (39:44):
It's closer, it's not the full run up like it
used to be, but this is the way to keep
it technically in the game, but de emphasize it to
the point of you have to be losing and it
has to be the fourth quarter and you have to
broadcast it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We're gonna have an on side kick.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
Remember the Saints in the Super Bowl. Who knows if
they're winning or losing at the time, but you would
remove the option of us a double surprise on side
kick because you're winning.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well, they did it to start the second half, and
that's surprised everybody watching that and it won a Super
Bowl for the Sames.
Speaker 10 (40:16):
What We've been watching football a long time. I cannot
ever remember a rash of injuries on the on side
kick that caused everyone to freak out, and now the
play is basically on life support.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well, it does feel like it's right for an injury,
because if I get to do the run up and
you're there waiting for a ball, you know, and then
you're going to hit a blocker. I mean it feels
I'm surprised there haven't been a lot of injuries on
on side kicks. But if I have to stand here
and I don't get a runner up a run up there, yeah, ton.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
And if you're going to do a run play on
third and three or longer, you have to let the
defense know that it's going to be run.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Then it's not the case.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Ton.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's ridiculous, every one of those things, and we were
just talking about the on side kick.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
That's all ridiculous. All three of those elements.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Were once again, that's why you're the Minister of humor.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
We're gonna run here.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
We're just talking about the onside Kickton. No, well, I'm
in a surprise and just talking about the onside Kickton
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