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introduction Todd Fritz the Minister of Humor, and he has
done stand up around the world and not well. He
sang a couple of songs with Darius Rucker, a couple
of Hollan Oates songs. Didn't do that well either, beause.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You made dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'll be app still doing I'm still doing the introduction here. Okay,
get used to this San Diego, so I was still
introducing you. But you're very good at the supplying guests.
That's what you do. Known as a booker, not a producer.
You're just a booker. Still introducing you. Seaton O'Connor. He is, well,
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not really sure, but where he's really good at what
he does.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm not sure. He's director of operations, I think is
what he is.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Am.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I yeah, if anybody has surgery, you're the director of
operations around here. Marvin, don't call him Melvin or Mervin,
but uh, Marvin is in the front row and he
handles uh all the hardware here.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I chill.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, Paulie is the producer. Pauli's been with me for
a long long time.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Three of the four Fritzy Seaton, Paulie had been with
me since the ESPN days. Uh, Marvin, I don't think
was born when I was back at ESPN. Who when
I first started, when I first started, I've been married
almost as long as you've been alive.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So just try to put that in perspective there.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yes, Baum, if I remember right, our first Super Bowl
me you and Fritzy was San Diego and it was
a great one. We had a gazebo outside this huge
hotel in this pl area, and we had Bill Walton
came down on his bicycle. Yeah, we had Hugh Hefner
on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
That was our first sup Bowl together.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I asked Hugh Hefner if heaven will be a
disappointment for him, and he said yes, all right. Each
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smoked everybody in the fifteen hundred. I still believe that
they should honor her on the podium by the number
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of seconds that she finished ahead of the second place finisher.
So you put her on the podium, give her her
gold medal, and then she gets to stand there for
ten seconds, and then you bring second in third place
the silver in the bronze. I think that's only fair
to give people an idea of just how dominating that
she was with an Olympic record, USA hoops drops South
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Sudan one O three to eighty six. This time it counted.
They of course had a friendly and USA squeaked out
at one point win over South Sudan. It was different
this time around. I love watching Kevin Durant. When you
think about a guy who is just a basketball player
that he just loves playing ball, and he's there at
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the free throw line talking trash to the South Sudan
players like, you guys are soft man. I mean he's
saying it in colorful language. You guys are soft man.
You guys are soft man. And then he hits a
free throw. But there's something about Durant. Now he's way
too sensitive, but he is a bucket waiting to happen.
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I say way too sensitive because he gets caught up
in social media.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I think he likes it, but I also think that
it drives him crazy sometimes. But on the basketball floor,
I like a little bit of trash talking. I mean,
growing up in the era with Bird and Michael Jordan,
I mean, you just had some great trash talkers. And
then you see Kevin Durant is out there and he
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wants to let you know he's got your lunch today
and you saw that yesterday. But it's fun to watch that.
Anthony Edwards has a little bit of that. In fact,
Anthony Edwards trash talk Durant in the playoffs this past year.
But watching Durant, he's the guy that walks by the
gym and if somebody's in there shooting hoops, he would
walk in and shoot hoops. And there's an old school
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mentality about his approach to it. And he's the greatest
international player we've ever had. And it's just fun to
watch him because I do think he's underrated. I think
because he went to Golden State and he won. Therefore
you couldn't have won it without Steph and Draymond, which
is true, but he was still the MVP of the
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Finals twice. And he's just of unstoppable players in NBA history,
Kevin Durant is on the short list of guys that
he's just a bucket, you know, kareem to me is
the most unstoppable player of all time. Nobody could stop that,
no matter what, you couldn't stop the skyhook. We know
about Mike, you know there are other Will Chamberlain when
he played, but Kevin Durant mid range three even post
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up buckets constantly. So it's fun to watch him play
and this will probably be his last Olympics. But Team
USA drops South Sudan one O three to eighty six. Also,
much has been made about Jason Tatum. He got benched.
Oh my gosh, how's he going to come back from this?
What's Steve Kirk thinking? What are the agendas here? It's
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hard to get everybody in to a forty minute game.
It's ten minute quarters and everybody there is an All Star.
They all want to play, they all think they should play. Now,
Joe el Embiid got bench. I don't know what the
fallout is going to be from that. I mean, I
get it. Jason Tatum won a title, had a great year,
unbelievable year, but he didn't fit in with what they
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were up against against Serbia. It's okay, And then he
got to play against South Soudan, so I guess everything's okay.
But I was just I was surprised at the outrage
and the anger towards Steve Kerr, like.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
How could you humiliate him? And Jason Tatum was bothered
by it.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But if your common goal, we had Mike Skryzhevsky on
and coach k said when he coached he demanded a
pledge from his players whatever it would take to win
a gold medal. Not I gotta get touches, I got
to get playing time. And that's what surprised me a
little bit here and all Jason Tatum has to say
is I'm here to win a gold medal. I hope
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I get to play. I expect to play. I should play,
but I have to be a team player. And we
do have great players here. Would you rather have Jason
Tatum or Kevin Durant. I'll take Kevin Durant international, play
Kevin Durant every day if he's healthy, every day. And
I think that's where we get lost sometimes. Who's the
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right player at the right time against the right team.
That's all Steve Kerr is doing. His goal is not
to humiliate anybody, embarrass anybody. His goal is to put
the best team out there. And yes, it does sound
crazy that Jason Tatum can't get in against Serbia, but
Steve Kerr didn't put him in. Not the end of
the world. You know what's the end of the world.
When you lose that, that's when it's the end of
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the world. Not now you won, nobody can complain you
beat Serbia. Nobody can complain because you didn't get playing time.
If you lose, all right, maybe you can complain.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So USA drops out Sudan one o three to eighty six.
Hall of Fame game coming up tonight. Get ready for
those who probably aren't going to make the team, certainly
won't start the betting line according to DraftKings, Texans minus
one against the Bears over under at thirty one and
a half. Yes, I used to bet on preseason football.
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That's when I knew I had a problem. You know,
you never know you have a problem with gambling until
you go, oh, man, I'm watching this and I bet
on this. I was betting on preseason football. Preseason football's
main purpose is to get everybody back in shape, get
ready for the season, and then you're going to try
to round out your rosters. You got players who are
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trying to make the team. And really that's what preseason
football is about. It's the players who are going to
be the fiftieth man on your roster. There fifty third
man on your roster. But this is different now because
you're going to tune in for the kickoff tonight. You
may not tune in for anything else, you may only
tune in for the kickoff, because now all of a sudden,
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the NFL has revamped. It's a play, a play that
they were trying to take out of the game, and
you're doing that the weekend that Devin Hester of the
Chicago Bears is going into the Hall of Fame because
of the kickoff. And a man who should take a
little credit for Devin Hester going into the Hall of Fame,
Tony Dungee, the Colts head coach. He will join us
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a little bit later on. He opted to kick to
Devin Hester to open up that Super Bowl after all
week long, telling himself and his coaching staff whatever, we're.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Not kicking to Devin Hester.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Last second kick to Devin Hester takes it back for
a touchdown. So we'll talk to Tony Dungee a little
bit later on. The actor Matt Damon has a new
movie out. We'll have him join us a little bit
later on as well. But special teams coordinators will have
to workshop the strategies here. And I noticed that they've
named this it's the dynamic new kickoff rule. It's not
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like the new kickoff. It's called the dynamic here. It
is the new dynamic kickoff rule. Wow, that's a little
pretentious here. Can't we decide? Can't we wait until we
see if it's dynamic or not. But the NFL doing
its best to get rid of the kickoff. Now it's back,
and I think it'll be I think it'll be kind
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of a jarring visual there to start, and then you'll go, okay,
I kind of have this figured out. But most starters
are going to sit out tonight's Hall of Fame game,
and with very little that's on the line, it'll be
interesting to see how the league's devotion to keeping the
kickoff relevant in today's NFL plays out starting tonight. All right,
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what's the poll question for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
We've got one here that we're going to have to populate.
Paully sent this over off Katie Ledecki, the most dominant
athlete in the last fifty years. Obviously, there's individual athletes
there's team athletes, Katie Ledeki, it's like her, Usain Bolt,
Michael Phelps, there's some Olympic athletes that have been super dominant.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Okay, where how do we split?
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I guess the first question is how do we split
individual athletes and team athletes? Is it just along those lines?
Because some of those medals that you end up getting
in swimming are still swimming, are still.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Team Well, she broke her own Olympic record in the
fifteen one hundred meter freestyle, so that's twelve Olympic medals.
So she's tied with Jenny Thompson, Deretrres, and Natalie Kauflin.
So that's the most decorated female athlete in history. And
they happen to be all swimmers. So eight gold medals,
tied with Thompson. So I don't know if you can
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put her above these other female swimmers because they have
the same number. Also, you know what disciplines are you swimming?
She's really good at the fifteen hundred and eight hundred meters.
I think a lot of times when we watch swimming,
we like it when it's one hundred meters, fifty meters,
two hundred meters. Then it kind of resonates a little
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bit more because the race is over sooner there.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't know how long.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They've had the fifteen hundred meter freestyle in the Olympics
for women. I know that she's dominated, but to be
fair to the other swimmers, you know, Dere Torres was
an unbelievable sprinter, Natalie Coughlin and also Jenny Thompson. Ladeki
is unbelievable in her races the fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
She dominates.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know if that makes her better than these
other swimmers. In fact, it doesn't make her better than
these other swimmers. It makes her dominant like these other swimmers.
But I wouldn't put her up there as the greatest
women swimmer of all time because I mean, Derek Torres
nearly won a gold medal nearly fifty years of age.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
See, it feels like metal count though it's a way
of evening the score a little bit, because if you're
looking at world records and Olympic records, I think Katie
Ladeki is pretty high up there.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
But I don't know how many women swimmers compete in
the fifteen hundred as opposed to all the sprints to
be fair to this, it'd be like thee hundred meters
or somebody who's going to be in the eight hundred meters,
the number of quality athletes who are in those races
as opposed to the other ones. But I don't want
to diminish what she's done. I just want to make
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sure we separate that she's doing it in these events,
and these other swimmers were dominant in other events. You know,
a lot of sprinting events, but eight gold medals tied
with Jenny Thompson for the most by a female swimmer.
And I think it's just jarring to see somebody that
good at a race in the Olympics, where if you
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finish second, you are thrilled, even though you probably finished
ten to twelve seconds behind Katie Ladeci. Usually we're talking
about like a hundredth of a second, tenth of a
second a second, and now all of a sudden, you're going, uh,
Katie's finished. She can't go anywhere. She has to wait
till everybody finishes. You imagine she's just going, Look, can't
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get out, I can't get out of the want no,
can't do anything. Just stand there, you know, just applaud
and then all of a sudden, everybody finishes, and those
who finished second and third were like thrilled. It's like
finishing second or third to Secretariat at the Belmont, like
I was in the race I lost. That's where you say, oh,
yeah I finished second in the Belmont. You did, yeah,
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photo finish, not exactly. I mean they had photos at
the finish. It wasn't a photo finish. I finished like
I don't know, but yeah, I was back a little
waiits but I finished second. Yes, Mark, does.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Katie look like you say? Good race likes? I waited
for you. I saw you guys race. Yes, yes, she does,
even like you could see.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Well last night she looked over at the girl who
had won the silver and they were.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Like, yeah, we did it, Like look you two. Yeah
she still came a second, she still won the silver.
She was super stoked about it. And it's like, heck, yeah,
you did awesome. That was great.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But also, you know, when you think about it, you
you are really good at what you do.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
She's just really really good at what she does.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And you know, finishing second to Usain Bolt, there's no
shame in that. Hey you finished second, all right, you
finished second and you were a little ways back.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's okay, yes, Todd.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
How do you explain I could win by that much.
It's like a pitcher that can throw. Everyone throws up
the highest the can picture, say one hundred hundred five
miles an hour, and someone comes on and can throw
it one twenty five, one thirty. How do you explain
that of the best in the world, someone could be
that much better than everyone else on the planet.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't think somebody's going to throw one hundred and
twenty five miles an hour, But just to.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Make an analogy, what if someone in another sport could,
like do be that much better than the next best
person in the entire universe of that sport. It's just
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, I don't know if there's a comparison, like a
like a true comparison, not you know, one that you're
making up, but something we've actually seen happen. Where you go,
he or she is just that much better, like some
own Biles is just that much better. But it's not numbers.
Where you go, Oh my god, she blew everybody away.
She's just when she's on her game, when she's being
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some oone Biles, nobody is going to beat her, So
you don't see that very often.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yes, it's it's something like that she's on now, like
her sixth trick or something that she's invented. She's the
only one in the world at the time that they
were that could do them.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, when you reinvent or you know, not reinvent, you invent,
that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, when they name things after you.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Like right now, there isn't anybody who, at least in competition,
can do these things.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
All right, let me take a break. We'll get to
our poll question or at least pull questions. Matt Damon
got a new movie coming out, I believe tomorrow. Tony
Dunje will join us and we'll talk some college football
as well. So busy day here back after this and
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Speaker 3 (17:52):
Olympic golf is underway. Keeping an eye on that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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followed by Xander Shaffley, Deci Matsuyama, John Rahm, and Joaquin Neeman.
So the Olympic golf coverage has begun. A couple other
things here the three hundred point club for the Olympic players.
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Lebron James joined Kevin Durant and Carmelo Anthony's the only
team USA players to score three hundred points. Bam out
of Bayo was the big star yesterday beating South Suit
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Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yeah, we're still talking here about the more dominant athletes. Okay,
I was just looking at Michael Phelps. He has twenty
eight medals in the Olympics, twenty three of them are gold, yes,
and of the five that aren't gold, at least two
of those were team events. Sam means he's only had
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three times three races in the picks that were one
hundred percent on him that he didn't finish first. That's
a pretty good races out of twenty eight. Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't think anybody compares to him. I think he
is emeritus.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's unreal. Yeah, Usain Bolt. I haven't looked up his UH.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I would think the number of races that he entered
and the number of races where he won a gold medal,
he might be one hundred percent possible.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Plus to be the fastest man in the world for
more than four years. It's hard to do. Noah Lyle's
going to try to do that, but it's it's hard
to do, you know, stay that fast for that amount
of time, and Usain Bolt certainly has done that. I'd
love to know what he could run now if I
gave him like a month or two months to train.
Is it like Nolan Ryan Where Nolan Ryan I remember
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asking him how fast could you throw? I think he
was I think he was fifty or fifty five at
the time. Something he said, well, give me a couple
couple of week get it up there ninety five or so,
be like, yep, probably so, But yeah, I would say
Michael Phelps is different than everybody else.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
You know, Carl Lewis is probably up there too, yes,
just it might not hold to this day. Versatility though,
long jump, yeah, let's go. Yeahs awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, versatility with Carl Lewis certainly would be in the
conversation now I'm talking about American athletes that when you
think track and field, well, Jesse Owens you would think
obviously with what he did, where he did it, when
he did it. Yeah, and then Carl Lewis certainly would
come to the forefront as well.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
And he was Jesse Owens also like he didn't just
do the one hundred meters two hundred meters.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
He was a long jumper, a long jump or two.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And that's what Carl Lewis was, you know, trying to
replicate who else.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Carl Lewis certainly had the aura around him too though
of like this is the guy I know he had
a rivalry with Ben Johnson, but he was still Carl
Lewis was larger than life.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Anybody else that you would put in there.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Just looking at Olympic athletes. Mark Spitz, Yeah, that was
a big deal. In seventy two, that was a big deal.
I think seven Races, seven golds had that famous Sports
Illustrated cover photo.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That was a big deal.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
You know, we probably shouldn't have waited this long to
say her name. But Jackie Joiner Cursey.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yes, she was a boss.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Yes, a lot of these people too, A lot of
these athletes. You see, they were in at least four Olympics.
The longevity of that is just incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yes, yeah, and she was underrated.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Jackie Joyner I got a chance to do a feature
on her many obviously many many years ago. But what
a sweetheart, with just a nice person and her brother
Mal They were just really really nice people who happened
to be really really good athletes. There what other pole
questions are we looking at?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Let's see we got here one here from Todd about
the game tonight New Hall of Fame. Go, okay, how
much you plan on watch?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, normally we don't watch the kickoff. Now I'm watching
the kickoff because they're kickoff. It was meant to go
into they were hoping it go into the end zone,
new rules.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Curiosity, yes, sort of dominating.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And look, I would still love to see Caleb Williams
play just a little bit. It's not the end of
the world, right, just a couple of series out there.
But I you know, I understand it that. But guaranteed
this will happen in September where a coach will say, yeah,
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we're just not ready. You know, we're kind of sloppy
here in September. Okay, how about we get rid of
the sloppy plays, or you know, we learn a little
bit more in August, so when you get into September
you're ready to actually play. There's nobody like Belichick and
Brady because they would use September and say, hey, this
is our preseason. Well, you have the luxury of having
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Brady and Belichick. Nobody else has that luxury.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Yes, I don't think there's anything worse you could do
for Caleb Williams. Then trot him out on August first
and see what he looks like Publicly, I would just say,
going out there and then we will spend the next
four weeks dissecting every single throw he.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Made, every play I don't know. It looked a little
shaky there. He looked. There's no way that he's gonna
look good enough.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
All you need to do is hand it off a
couple of times and have a pass out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
That's it. Just go out there, no, just have a
little taste of it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Here's Aaron Rodgers at his press conference talking about not
playing in the preseason.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's Roberts's decision. I've never told him I don't want
to play in the preseason. There's a lot of thoughts
about whether there's any particular game from it. Yeah, we
used to play all the time, and the question we played,
you know, ten to fifteen in the first one, and
a quarter and a half in the second one, in
the third quarter and the third one, and then sometimes
you know, Tennessee would always play their guys shoot. Sometimes
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through a third quarter we would play and maybe a
series or two. Now nobody wants to play. They don't
want to play their guys. It's different to combat that.
Now we've done all these practices with other teams, so
we have three of those. I'm assuming those will be
like our super heavy days, and then it'll be like
the preseason for us.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
If you decide if.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
He wants me to play against the Giants, I'll strap
it up and look court of that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, and I mentioned that before.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's the new preseason for the Veterans, where you're out
in a controlled scrimmage against another opponent. I get it,
and you can probably accomplish more. I just thought, you know,
if you're the NFL, you're in the entertainment business. Don't
you want to trot out the number one overall pick?
Like if this was the WNBA, what would we be saying, Well,
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it's entertainment. You got put Caitlin Clark on the team.
All right, this is entertainment. I'd like to see Caleb
Williams out there playing just a little bit there. I
know the league can't say to teams, hey, we need
you to play him a little bit here. But we're
not tuning into a controlled scrimmage like the we will tonight.
But the Texans are favored by one against the Bear.
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Speaking of the Texans, Andre Johnson, they're a great wide
receiver going into the Hall of Fame. Do you think
it's a case of God, I know the franchise was
so bad, we have to put somebody in from that franchise,
and he was a really good player on a bad team.
And I mean who were the great quarterbacks that he had?
(25:28):
I mean, obviously TJ. Yates, but who were the great
quarterbacks that Andre Johnson had. It's like Anias Wilson Williams
with Arizona. You probably never tuned into a game to
see him, but if you like, he's a players player,
Andre Johnson is a players player. Anas Williams is a
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players player. Where they go, Man, that guy was great,
bad team, but man, that guy was great. And I
think Andre Johnson holds all the receiving records there. I
think he had over fifteen hundred yards receiving maybe four
four times, over one hundred catches maybe four times. Playing
for like the degree of difficulty to do what he
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was doing with who he was doing it with.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yes, Marvin Got, David Carr, pro bowler, Matt Schaub, Okay,
guys okay, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah, he didn't catch a lot of balls in the postseason.
That he's kind of like the almost like a Mike
Trout situation. He was in the playoffs twice twy eleven,
twenty twelve, and that was really it he doesn't have
postseason moments.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, I don't know if that hurts you as much
in the NFL as it does in other sports, where
we want to see what you do on the big stage.
I don't know if anybody even realized that Andre Johnson
played in very few playoff games. Quarterbacks. You do that
no other position. I mean, when's the last time you
did that for like a running back or wide receiver,
defensive player. Yeah, but how many Super Bowls did he plan? Quarterbacks?
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That's how you're graded there. But you know, David Carr,
he was a number one overall pick. He was the
Texan starter for much of Johnson's first four seasons in Houston.
He was a good car, a good quarterback there.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
He was.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Let me see what else do we have there?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Oh man, that's funny. Buff Maybe his office of line
failed him, Yes, really did. Nobody was sacked more than
David Carr. That's not fair. Nobody in there. What first?
What three seasons? Four seasons? I think he averaged fifty
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seven secs. It might have been sixteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I imagine going back to pass and you're just saying, okay,
which one of these guys is going to sack me.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Not am I going to get sacked? It's like which one?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I think he got sacked like sixty five times one season.
Kind of hard to go back there with a lot
of confidence there he could have been a good quarter back.
How about that? Maybe that's a better way to put it. Uh, yeah,
yeah it is. What what else do you have?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Well, we're gonna put up I think we're gonna put
up both of those for the first hour.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Okay, yeah, okay, So recapping, maybe we.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Can also ask how much Tony Dungee, Uh, how much
credit he gets?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
What if Dester?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
What if Devin Hester shouts out Tony Dungee that at
the Hall of Fame, because.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Tony will be there, it's an all time burn.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But if Devin Hester gets up there and maybe at
the end he goes and you don't what one person
that I'd like to thank help me get into the
Hall of Fame, Uh, Tony Dungee, the cold said coach, Tony,
thank you, thank you, and uh you know, here's what
Tony did for my career.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We'll play the highlight from the super Bowl. Coach, can
you introduce me? Can you give the speech?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Or Okay, I gotta ask Tony Dongee, how much credit
do you take for Devin Hester going into the Pro
Football Hall of Fame because he did kick to him
in the Super Bowl. I just if Devin Hester was
born ten years later, he wouldn't be in the Hall
of Fame. I mean, you think about it. They've done
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their best to get rid of the kickoff.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The Bears did try to use him as a wide receiver,
and look, I did applaud that because I wanted to
see him get more touches and if they were going
to kick away from him on a kickoff, at least
I got somebody who was a playmaker there. But yeah,
here we are trying to bring back the kickoff, kind
of trying to bring back the kickoff. A couple of
phone calls in here, got our play of the day
coming up as well. Kenny in California. Hi, Kenny, what's
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on your mind?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Danny? I have been very intrigued by Duran kd all
time great. I agree with you in terms of he
may not get the all time recognition, dude him going
to the Warrior. Yeah, but I couldn't believe it. You know,
in the Mothership had this pull the top one hundred
athletes may have had the basketball players they had Kevin
(30:08):
Garnett and this was over the last twenty four and
a half years. They had Garnett and Dwayne Wade ahead
of Drand And you know, you always ask people, well,
who are you going to take out of your top tens?
You can take Jerry and Oscar. I want to know
who your top ten is.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
It's too fluid right now because I don't know where
I would put. Look, I'm trying to avoid putting in
fifteen people into my top ten because that's normally what happens.
Do I think that Jerry West will stay in there?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't. Do I think Oscar is going to stay
in there? I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You almost have to look at these lists and say,
all right, prior to nineteen eighty and then move on
from there, because Wilton there, Bill Russell's going to be
in there, Oscar and Jerry would be in there. You
can put Elgin Baylor in there. But then the game changed,
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and I think I want to be fair to them
because what Oscar?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oscar played for really bad teams. Then later in his
career he goes to the Bucks, they win a title,
Jerry never won titles. He won one title, but you know,
most of the time he's the best player or second
best player on the floor. When they faced the Celtics,
you know, Wilt, what he did? You know when he
did it, how he did it. And I know we say, well,
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who was he playing against? He could only play against
who he's playing against?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Bill Russell.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Bill Russell would have a hard time playing in today's
NBA just because his size. I mean, he was six ' nine,
he was athletic, but you know, would he be Ben Wallace?
He wasn't an offensive player, unbelievable team player, defense, But
I don't I mean, let's be honest about this, Bob Coosey. See,
(32:02):
I just want to be fair. And yes, you have
today's athletes who are better, but they should be better,
travels better, I mean nutrition and everything like that. So
I think if you're going to do this, and when
you're ranking court like even quarterbacks like Bart Starr's numbers today,
you go that guy's in Hall of Fame or Bob Greasy,
(32:23):
I mean even Johnny united Is who invented the two
minute drill, Like you got to be even Joe Namath,
Joe Namath had more interceptions and touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You know, looking at.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Some of these players when they played, trying to be
fair to them with you know, their contemporaries, and it's
really hard to do. And I always do you know,
we do a disservice to this, do I think as
Durand is a top ten player, boy, he's pretty close.
I mean he's top fifteen. But I do think it'll
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hurt him that it looks like he was trying to
hold on to Steph and Clay and Dre and get
a couple of timeitols, but he was the best player
when he was with them. I mean, it wasn't one
of those Karl Malone and Steve Nash trying to join
the Lakers, Gary Payton win a title.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
He was.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I mean, he's great, but he's a top five I
think bucket and.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I don't even know what my top five.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
If somebody said, well, what's your top five, Kareem is
number one, and it's not even close because no one
ever figured that out.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
The skyhook, but there's so many other great scores.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But I just think Duran Durant, I just love the
attitude that he has and I missed that attitude Anthony
Edwards trying to bring that back a little bit. Mike
always talked trash, Bird always talk talk trash, but they
backed it up and I loved that because that's what basketball.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
When you play, you're chirpin. I mean you're chirpin with everybody,
including friends, Yes, especially friends.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yes, might even yell at my team mates, but I
just think when you're Kat's Katie's a lot of fun.
Here is South Sudan, but you need that guy on
your team to act like that because it is South
Sudan and everybody else is probably like going at South
Sudan to Durant.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It doesn't matter. What's that mean? It's awesome you're playing.
Then play the day up next.
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but one hundred twenty two consecutive.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
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believe Simone Biles and Katie Ladeci are both twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
More likely to continue Katie Ladecci in her sport at
twenty seven or Simone Biles in her sport at twenty seven. Now,
if I'm Katie Ladeci, I may just come back for
the fifteen hundred meters be like, uh, I'm just gonna
do one race here.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You know, I'm not even going to practice, I'm not
working out.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I'm gonna come back.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I'll be out of shape, I'll still dominate the fifteen
hundred meters Simone Biles, Like you know, these women events
therefore young, the young. I mean, it's it's hard to
be in your close to your thirties and still be
at the top of your game. Now you see that
with the men. You know, women mature earlier, bodies changing earlier.
(37:16):
But Katie Ledeki and Simone Biles at age twenty seven
feels like Katie could still do it, maybe at another Olympics,
but then she might just pick one event I don't
know if Simone Biles would say, let me just do
one or let me just do the team. Feels like
once you're in you're going to want to do more,
(37:37):
certainly Simone Vials, but both you know, established their legacies.
There's nothing to add to your legacy. I guess the
only risk you have is if you don't win or
don't look great anymore, like going out like this. You
can't go out any better than both of these, you
know olympians. But at age twenty seven, up take the
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results from the pole question first down, re seat, no
counter yea day we put up there. How much of
the game do you plan on watching tonight? Bears Texans?
Speaker 7 (38:07):
We got this one from the to double d Okay,
it's your options are in true Todd fashion, all of it,
most of it a passing glance or none, all of it,
most of it are passing clutch or none. Where do
you fall on that? Then I'm gonna go passing glance? Yeah,
I'm going to see what the kickoff does to me?
Is that what your most interested in sign is the kickoff?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
And then I'm always curious of that second, third or
fourth string quarterback. And then there'll be somebody who will
be pointed out tonight of Oh, I didn't know he
was on that team, and now I'm going to watch
I didn't know that is it Will Shipley, who was
at Clemson running back, may have led the acc in
rushing and touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
He's on the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I didn't realize that, So probably not get to get
a lot of playing time during the regular season. But
let's say KWin Barkley. I'm curious about Michael Pennix Junior,
the third with Kirk Cousins, you're not going to put
him out there. Here's Arthur Blank, the owner of the Falcons.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
Listening to our coaching staff on our personnel department. They
really made a decision Michael was going to be available
at number eight. They's sort an extraordinary talent our. Kirk
Cousins is our franchise quarterback, who's our starting quarterback, and
he seems to be doing great from a medical standpoint.
His attitude, his leadership culturally personally with our players the
(39:33):
coaching staff has been nothing short of outstanding. You know,
I know age does kind of creep up. I can
speak to myself personally on that a little bit. I
know what that means. And you know, Kirk will be
thirty six to start of the season, and so we
have we hope and pray he's got you know, three
to four great years in front of him, maybe beyond that.
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Arthur Blank's eighty one. So Michael pennixs you're going to
put him out there. I don't know who else they
have who's their third string quarterback, because that's what this
comes down to. It's third, second, third, fourth string quarterback.
And your goal is to go out there and not
get hurt if you're somebody who expects to play during
the regular season the other guy, because you're going to
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be facing players who are trying their best to just
make the roster. You're going out there and it's like,
all right, let me just go out there and not
try to do anything stupid.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yes, Marvin, what if.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
Pennic Junior tears it up during the preseason, is Kirk
still going to be your starter?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes, because he'll be tearing it up in the preseason
and then you'll go, well, it's the preseason. It's like
JJ McCarthy, the report's out of Minnesota. He's struggling against
the first team defense. If he was lighting up the
first string defense, then you got a real big problem
in Minnesota. Man, he is crushing the first team defense.
(40:53):
He should be struggling. Yes, yes, I don't know why
everybody's alarmed that JJ McCarthy could be struggling against the
first team defense.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I expect him to.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Unless he just hands off like I don't know, forty times,
like you did at Michigan. That's not that's a shot.
That's not that's not fair. Tony Dungee a little bit
later on, and Matt Damon