August 1, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan reminisces about the most dominant NFL defensive players like Reggie White, guys you tuned-in to see. And college football insider Andy Staples drops by to break down the many changes we’ll see next season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock that's a
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college football coming up. We'll kind of give you a
primer here for the upcoming season and some things that
you need to be aware of. Tony Dungeye in an
hour from now, Hall of Fame coach and the actor
Matt Damon has a new movie coming out called The Instigators,
coming out tomorrow. Katie Ledecki smokes the field in the
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fifteen hundred No surprise there, Team USA drops South Sudan
one O three to eighty six. You've got the Hall
of Fame game coming up tonight. The Texan's a one
point favorite against the Bears. So the backups versus the
backups and the Olympics Full slate again today and tonight.
Olympic golf is underway as we speak. All right, see
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poll question from last hour and what are we going
to go with an hour two?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, last hour day we have up there. How much
of the game do you plan on watching tonight? Texans
Bears Hall of Fame game? All of it, most of
it a passing glance or none?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The results are exactly in that order, just reversed right now.
Forty six percent of the audience say none, Wow, balanced
out by only four point two percent of the audience
watching all of it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, I won't watch all of it, but I'll certainly
do a drive by.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, passing glance thirty eight percent.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I mean, you have the Olympics going on, so you
have some competition there. But I think we're jones for football,
even if it is preseason, and even if it is
the backups who are playing. By the way, it's not
the new kickoff, it's the dynamic kickoff. The new dynamic
kickoff rule goes into effect coming up tonight, and to
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address the lowest kickoff return rate in NFL history during
the twenty twenty three season, they've created a new form
of a kickoff, and I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I'm optimistic. How about that.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't know if I'm excited, but I am optimistic
that you're going to have something that looks like it's fun,
something that has movement. Fewer touchbacks here, and I think
we can all benefit from that. Plus, you know the
number of players who grew up and this is what
their specialty was. I mean, look at the NFL, the
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history of the NFL. With great kick returners, we wouldn't
have them, including Devin Hester, who's going into the Hall
of Fame coming up this weekend, some of the other members.
Steve McMichael with the Chicago Bears. He's going into the
Hall of Fame. He certainly had his health issues and
don't know if he'll be able to attend the ceremonies,
but he is what a character. Had a chance to
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visit him and his wife in their apartment many many
years ago. Invited me up and he said, Hey, I
just want you to come on up here, have a beer,
and I want to tell you about Bears football. And
I went up there and spent about an hour with
him and his wife and their little dogs. And it
overlooked the lake, and I loved it. I thought he
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was just one, like it's one of those guys, and
he was charming, very respectful to his wife, and you know,
it was a gentleman. But then you watched him play
football and you're like he was an animal out there.
The number of sacks that he had as a defensive tackle. Now,
it used to be your defensive tackles. We didn't have
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edge rushers growing up. You had great defensive tackles. And
Steve McMichael was a great defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I don't know, did he.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Have what eighty sacks, Paulie, maybe more than the ninety
five sacks?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
OK, only about five defensive tackles in history they have
ninety plus.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I mean Alan Page was a great pass rusher.
Carl Eller was kind of an edge rusher. Back then
you had me and Joe Green. I mean, you had guys,
but we didn't call him edge rushers. You know a
lot of times your linebackers would blitz and get a sack,
like Derek Thomas. But Steve McMichael with that defense, I
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think is the whole front four. Paulie in the Hall
of Fame, you hat Dent Hampton, Steve McMichael and who
am I missing on your.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
They had more of a rotation of different guys there.
They didn't have well as William Perry was in the rotation.
There was a few other players in that mid eighties
Bears rotation on the defensive line.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
But their Super Bowl team, who was their other tackle?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I think Perry started, I got a chee.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh he did, Okay, yeah, but Steve McMichael, that Bears defense. Now,
that Bears defense wasn't as good as the Steel Curtain,
but it's up there as one of the greats of
all time, you know, probably a top five. But you know,
once again, it's generational. I go with the Purple people eaters,
you know, fearsome force them with the Rams Doomsday defense.
I mean, there's so many of the and it helped
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having a great nickname like Orange Crush, Randy gratischar going
into the Hall of Fame, first member of that defense
representing Denver going into the Hall of Fame. But you know,
I don't know if these are Hall of Famer, like
first ballot Hall of Famer, you hear their name. It's
more like you got to do a little homework on them.
Andre Johnson with the Texans as well, but who was
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the other one? Patrick Willis, Yeah, he's in, Like he's
a players player that there's certain players that go in,
or if you talk to players about certain players, they'd
be like Patrick Willis, man beast, he was awesome, consistent,
he was great, quietly awesome. Yes, yes, he was like
the guy you kind of forgot about him. But then
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forty nine ers came round. You're like, oh, that's right.
But when you are playing eight years and Paulie can
correct me on this, but eight years and you're all
pro five years, not Pro Bowl, but all Pro. You're
going into the Hall of Fame. Now, you might say, well,
you need to play more. I just know Patrick Willis
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was one of those guys that other players talked about.
And you know that's the fun part of this. We
can look at it and go, let me look at
the stats. Players don't look at the stats. Players just
look at players, and that's when you know, wow. And
I brought up Anias Williams played for the Cardinals, didn't
play for good teams, but they other players would say, God,
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that guy's great. Yes, Marv Dwight Freene's also going in,
Yes he is. And his coach Tony Dunjeu, Will Jones
coming up next hour. He had the spin move. I
don't know if anybody did anybody have the spin move
before Dwight Freeneye did, because it felt like that was
his signature move. Now, you know a lot of guys
use it, but Dwight Freeney was not big, came out
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of Syracuse, but fast, and it was a different type
of rusher that it wasn't a guy who was going
to overpower you.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He's going to blow by you. And now you see
a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know, these guys have slimmed down and you just
want to get that split second advantage on the tackle
and get the you know, cut the corner, turn the
corner and go get your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, and that Dwight Freene spin move is like the
kind of thing that you knew he was going to
do it and still couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah. Yeah, that's when you know you're great.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's like Reggie White, to me is the greatest defensive
lineman of all time. And that's I know, that's that's
a statement there. I just you had no answer for him.
Nobody ever did. And he he could just brute force
and smart's quickness. I mean all of those things. I
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mean me and Joe Green was wonderful. There's so many
great names. This is where you know, sometimes you disrespect
somebody by saying somebody is the greatest you've ever seen.
And there's just my opinion. Reggie White, he was must
see TV. It's hard to say a defensive lineman is
must see TV. But there are certain guys growing up
who became must see TV.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Lawrence Taylor was, but he wasn't a defensive lineman. Bruce Taylor,
Bruce Smith. You're always watching You're like, I'm watching that guy,
Alan Page, I always watched him. Aaron Donald. Of course
you're going to get that guy where you just go wow.
And sometimes when you watch a play, are you watching
the defensive lineman, You're watching offensive lineman, Like I know
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where the quarterback is going to be, so I watch
the game. I'm watching the offensive line because that tells
me everything that the quarterback is going to be able
to do. But I so many times you're watching a
defensive player, defensive lineman, and that's when it's like, that's
it's strange to say must see TV, and it's a
defensive lineman. All right, poll question for hour two is
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going to be what their seaton ol Connor By the way,
the Olympics. You can see them in primetime tonight on
NBC and Peacock. I have two for you, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Are you more interested in the start of the NFL
season or the college football season?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, hmm, I'm gonna say the NFL because I haven't
done enough homework on college football yet to look at
like certain schedules, when somebody plays, somebody transfers, how that's
going to affect the national championship. If you look at
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the Heisman Trophy candidates, you know they were transfers. Bo
Nicks was a transfer, Jaden Daniel's a transfer, Michael pennickx
junior was a transfer. These were the guys up for
the Heisman. Is that going to happen again this year?
You know Georgia's schedule, number of games on the road,
Texas their schedule. Florida might have the toughest schedule of anybody.
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So we'll talk some college football coming up, and Matt
Damon will join us in the final hour of the program,
and Tony Dungee will join us.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Top of next hour. All right, a couple of phone
calls in here.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Uh Paul and Iowa, Hi Paul, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Hey Dan Well, I have a heid of the face
offer related to the Hall of Fame game. But first,
there's a John Rothstein disciple on the Hall of Fame
game day. It's my job to remind you that Gordon
Hayward just retired and he had the greatest shot in
college basketball that never went in. He had a higher
difficulty than Chris Dncoin's shot, higher difficulty than Latner's shot.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, but they went in.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah they did.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
That's why it was the best.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That didn't go in.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
He had to cross, he had a guy in his face.
Besides the fact, to my hide the face, the Bears
are plus one to ZH five to not make the playoffs.
I would like to take that. I say the Bears
will not make the playoffs this year. Do I have
any takers? Go pack go?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well, they're not expected to make the playoffs, So going
out on a limb would be like saying, hey, I
think the Bears are going to make the playoffs. They're
in a really tough You got the Packers and the
Lions in that same division, you play them twice each.
I got a rookie quarterback, I got a coach who
might be in his last year, got a good roster,
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but it's going to take a while for that to gel.
Does anybody think the Bears will not make the playoffs?
And PAULI don't say they won't, just so you don't
get disappointed if you truly believe the Bears won't make
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
If I were betting, trying to be objective, I think
I would bet against it. Okay, I think eight wins
for any rookie quarterback is a really nice season, and
eight won't catch in.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, what would be a good season for the Bears?
And as a Bears fan, I'm gonna ask Tony Dungee
this because c J. Stroud has just changed our expectations
for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And it's not fair to Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
But c J.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stroud went into a worse situation than the Bears, and
that's Sandalot and he had one of the greatest rookie seasons,
if not the greatest rookie season. Now, don't forget Cam
Newton's rookie season. He was a tour de force. But
is nine wins a great year if you're a Bears fan,
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or even we remove that, and I'm not a Bears fan,
I can be objective. Nine wins going from seven to nine,
it's a big jump. I think nine is a would
be a really good year, and you might have your
coach come back. Now here's the tricky one. Do you
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want your head coach to come back? Because if you
win nine, Matt Eberflus will now get extended. So it's
like it's like the cowboy fan. Hey, if you do well,
Mike McCarthy comes back. Do you want Mike McCarthy to
come back.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
In the last fifteen years, the Bears have won nine
or more games three times. Okay, I would say that
nine wins is a massive win.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I would think so too. I think they're going to
be right there. I mean, I would lean towards them
making the playoffs. But maybe I'm overly optimistic about the
players that they brought in. And I do like Caleb Williams,
and you know, I can't deny that. You know he's
coming in and he feels different than a rookie quarterback.
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He didn't feel like Jaden Daniels or Drake May JJ McCarthy,
and he feels like, all right, I kind of know
what's going on here. Whether he does or not, he
certainly gives me that impression. Yeah, poem, I look at
it this way, and it's going to sound like a kapa.
But it's not so much the number of wins or
the stats. But at the end of the season, do
the Bears feel like they finally got a really good quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It doesn't have to be C.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
J Strous's numbers. I remember when Joe Burrow's first year
with the Bengals, he got banged up and he played
like nine or ten games, but he threw for thirteen
touchdowns and five picks, and it felt at the end
of the season the Bengals have found their guy for
the next ten years. And that feeling doesn't happen in
Chicago and has not in my lifetime, where you felt
like we are in good shape. It doesn't it to
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be Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning. It could be a B
plus quarterback, maybe an A quarterback future that would be fantastic. Yeah,
I'm okay not making the playoffs. I could be patient.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think at the end of the year. How are
you playing at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
How threatening are you at the end of the year,
instead of all this is going to be a win
for whoever faces us. Just so your competitive, you're threatening,
you're relevant, Like that's the important part. And maybe it's
putting too much pressure to say nine wins because players
will tell you and coaches will too. Jump from seven
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to nine that's a big jump, big jump.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes, I feel like everything that Paul just said is
exactly right. It's exactly right. Be patient. It's just not
realistic at all.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Is there a butt coming up?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Because number one overall picks don't get that. You don't
get like that somebody coming in with sort of like
that pedigree and that value and all of that stuff
and all of that hype. Playing at a big school
with nil and all this stuff and you're the number
one overall pick, you don't get. Let's just stay how
about a solid B plus that would be great.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That doesn't come with that. It's just not it's not
the real real world.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, once again, though, we're grading this on the scale
of the bar is really low in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right, I think the bar is is exactly right. Like, yes,
be patient let them. Hey, you know what a solid
B plus is great. That just doesn't seem to be
the real world.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Though.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I think the bar is set too high.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I think the expectation is so high that it shouldn't
be this high. But it is because they won seven,
and then they got the number one pick, okay, and
then they sprinkled in some upgrades. Here, it just feels like, Man,
I don't know ten eleven wins. I would put it
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at nine, but we'll talk to Tony. Dun'tee about that.
All right, We're gonna talk some college football coming up
right after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:04):
Anybody from the triathlon check into the hospital for e coli.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
That's what I was waiting for.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And figure, I don't know how long you normally have
to wait before you ingest whatever they ingested in the
send river. I'm watching and I'm going it almost look
like hazing in a fraternity. Like now you jump in
the water. Okay, that's part of the hazing there. I
don't even know who won the triathlon. Like, to be fair,
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we should at least mention who won the men's and
women's triathlons, just we spent a lot of time on
them jumping into the water there. All right, we'll get
to more phone calls coming up once again an hour
from now the actor Matt Damon, he's got a new
movie out, and top of next hour, Tony Dungee Hall
of Fame head coach will stop by as well. We
make way for the man who makes us smarter. When
it comes to college football, one of our favorites, Andy Staples,
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covers college football for on three Sports. Let's start with
Michigan here because it feels like there's a report about
a report about a potential report that Michigan could be
facing a postseason ban one or two seasons. Where do
we stand with this and what exactly are the allegations
that could be pending.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Well, so that's from Chris Ballast at our Michigan site,
The Wolverine and on three and basically this is the
Connor Stallion's case. This is the advanced scouting was Connor
Stallions and then his network of spies going around and
videoing people's signals so that he could then relay them
to Michigan coaches, which advanced scouting is against the rules
(18:37):
in college football. It was banned in the nineties as
a cost cutting measure, basically one of those if Toledo
can't do it, Michigan can't do it sort of things.
And so they get caught doing that last year. That's
tacked on to some other stuff that they'd already been
working on with Jim Harbaugh, which involved basically him getting
a cheeseburger for some guys that were already committed to
Michigan that wanted to come in and look at the
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campus during But all of that is now getting mashed
together and we're waiting to see what happens, and it
could take a long time. And basically what Chris reported
is that they're talking about potentially going after a postseason ban.
But it's such a preliminary stage here, like this is
going to take months, two years to get resolved. Michigan's
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gonna fight, like hell.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The most pressure is it in Alabama or in Michigan
With these new coaches.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
I think it's definitely more on Klein to board Alabama
than at Michigan because you knew Michigan was going to
lose so much to the draft. But I will say,
like Sharon Moore's first year, it's kind of a nice
spot to be in where everybody thinks Oregon and Ohio
State are going to rule the Big ten. Charon Moore's
got three first round guys on his defense, and Will
Johnson and Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant, and you bring
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Donald and Edwards back, You've got Colson lovel and really
get tight end. I don't worry about their offensive line
with Sharon Moore there, So like that's a good place
to be kind of sneaky. Hey, you're good, and you
still might make the playoff. Alabama, it's Nick Saban are tired.
Your job, Kalen de Bor is to come in and
be just as good as Nick Saban. No pressure, now,
I will say, since Kaylen de Bor got there, he's
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done everything right. It looks like they're going to operate
very similarly. Do they operated, you know, the way they
operated with Nick Saban? But man, it's a ton of pressure,
all right?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. So
no more divisions in the Big ten in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And that's because the standings of the college football playoffs
with the Big ten in the SEC, So Notre Dame
can't be higher than five at the end of the year, right,
that's right?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Okay, But well they could be ranked higher, but they're
only going to be the five seed. That's the best
they can do.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So they could be undefeated, but be the fifth seed
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Correct, correct, And it's there's so much mott.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Are they putting pressure on them to join a conference
by doing this?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I know? Actually it's the other way around. So they're
only a d Jack Swarb help design this format and
it's basically set up now where if Notre Dame goes
ten and two in most years, they're gonna make the playoff,
and for them, they're like, you know what, that's good
enough for us, because if you're in a conference, you
have to play a conference championship game. So it's essentially
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like playing a super first round playoff game against maybe
an even better team than you would have played. So
Jack Swarbrick the old idea Notre Dame just wired this
thing for the Irish.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, let's say you win the Big Ten? Are you
the fourth seed? Like, how does it work between the
SEC and the Big Ten? Of if you win the conference?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
If you win the conference, you can be one of
the top four seeds. So like we're assuming we don't know,
because like the ACC could have a great champ who's undefeated,
but more than likely your SEC or your Big Ten
champ that's one and two. Then the three and four
seeds also have to be conference champs. So like, let's
say Florida State wins the ACC and they're your three seed. Well,
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what if I don't know, Kansas State or Utah wins
the Big Twelve, but they're like the eleventh best team
in the country, doesn't matter, they're the four seed. Welcome
to college football. In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay, see, that's why I'm having you on because I
know we don't have college football for three weeks, so
I almost need three weeks as the primer to get
ready for this madness.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
It's gonna slap everybody in the face, especially like those
of us who are not the complete sickos like me
who just lived this three hundred and sixty five days
a year. The folks who have been watching the Olympics
and are they're like, Okay, canoe Slalom's over, let's check
out college football. You're gonna be like, what.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The hell is this?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Why your's schedule is gonna matter matter more? In the SEC? Well,
all conferences here, but.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Those the Yeah, the divisions are gone. So what you're
used to where like Georgia, when's the SEC East every year?
Well there is no SEC East now. So Georgia, you know,
maybe the best program in the SEC the last few years,
the unlucky draw. They've got to go to Alabama, to
Texas and two Ole miss which is just brutal Texas. Meanwhile,
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first year in the SEC, you think, okay, let's haze
the right. Nope, Nope, they got a pretty easy draw. Meanwhile,
Oklahoma the other new guy in the SEC. Their schedule
just sucks. Like Tennessee comes to them, they have to
go to Auburn the following week. Their last two weeks
of the season are Alabama comes to them and then
they go to LSU.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Ouch.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Last year, a Heisman race came down to guys who transferred,
so Jad and Daniels, Michael Pennix Junior, and bow Nick.
So we're looking at same scenario this season.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
We could see some guys who were transfers last year
who are you know, had that second year bump, like
Shador Sanders at Colorado. You know, remember he was the
Jackson State year before. They're changing offenses. They're hopeful that
through the transfer portal Live improved that offensive line. They
he got SA they give it fifty six sacks last year.
So if that happens again, Schador is not going to
be the Heisman race, but there's a good chance they
(24:01):
get better. You're gonna see his numbers improve. But you've
also got speaking of transfers, Riley Leonard, the new quarterback
at Notre Dame, Dylan Gabriel coming from Oklahoma to go
to Oregon. Like there's a bunch of guys in new
places who could put up some big, big numbers.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The over under for Colorado I think is five and
a half. I would have thought it would have been
higher that Dion got humbled last year, that he would
have loaded up. Why weren't they able to load up
the way? Maybe I don't. Doesn't just come down to
the money that they have to spend.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I think that's part of it. I also think he
recruits a little bit differently. He's very transfer portal oriented.
The best teams in college football still build their foundations
through high school recruiting. They get the best players out
of high school. That's what Georgia does, Ohio State does,
and then they supplement through the portal. Dion's gone almost
completely through the portal. He doesn't do in home visits.
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He doesn't do in school visits for the high school guys,
so it's a little bit different. Also, they don't have
the kind of money that a Georgia or in Ohio
State has.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
I do think they're going to be better than last year,
but better than last year might mean six and six
and they make a bowl game, not nine and three
and they win the Big.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Twelve I'm also wondering about this where we are with money,
because I said this a while ago that what's going
to stop a billionaire from just saying I want my
alma mater to be competitive. Here's twenty five million dollars, Like,
who's doing that? SMU, Well, that would be fun. They're trying.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
They are trying because SMU has actually gotten a little
bit back in the game now. Phil Knight and Nike, well,
it's more Phil Knight because he's not running Nike anymore.
But Phil Knight and Oregon probably the closest thing to that.
They have become a much better recruiting program than they
always were. But that doesn't mean they're getting everybody they want.
Like the other day, there was a guy that everybody
thought was going to go to Oregon. He picked LSG.
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So there are other rich people who like different schools,
and there's still competition for this sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But is there a big separated Ohio State reportedly spending
twenty million dollars? Mm hmm, what's Georgia's spending? What's what's
well Oregon? What's the what's that check?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Ohio State and Oregon are in very similar spheres here
Alabama and Georgia is same thing. They're very competitive. It's
like any other market. It's like it's like the market
for our jobs, Dan, Like the companies that employ us
know what people who do what we do make, and
so they're going to come in with competitive offers. But
they're not going to come in with stupid offers.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Okay, but what's the going rate for a quarterback?
Speaker 10 (26:44):
Well, the transfer this year a great quarterback or potentially
a potentially good court great, we're actually stretching if we
say great, but a potentially good quarterback in the transfer
portal this year was one point five million.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Dollars per year.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Okay, what's the shit?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I will point out, though, Dan, the franchise tag for
a good safety in the NFL's fourteen million.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What's the second highest price tag per position? It's either
offensive tackle or defensive tackle.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Because those are just the rarest of humans that those
humans don't just walk around among us. When you find one,
you make sure you pay and keep them.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Who has the rights to ut in the SCC Tennis, Yes.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
We've decided it's Tennessee that they were grandfathered in during
SEC media days when we saw the abbreviations. We saw
Tennessee was UT and Texas was tex which I think
that's fair. Tennessee's I believe a charter. Remember the conference
in Texas is the new guy, so they should get
hazed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh boy, I think Texas gonna if they're upset about
horns down, they gotta be upset about UT.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Horns down, by the way, not gonna be helped by
the SEC. They're like, we don't care. Their director officials
is like, don't care. Horns down them all you want.
Texas will get over and I think they'll be okay.
They're they're they're pretty good at football right now at Texas,
so I think they're okay with with whatever you want
to throw at them, as long as when you were
just throwing a touchdown passage.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Is Lincoln Riley possibly on the hot seat at USC.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
I don't think he's on the hot seat, dam because
he got this massive contract. I do think he's got
to get things turned around. Like their defense has got
to get better. He hired Danton Lynn from UCLA to
make that defense better. And I've said this for years,
you know, going back to Oklahoma, Like it's also a
global holistic thing with Lincoln Riley, like, you have to
practice in a way that allows your defense to be
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physical the laws, your offensive line to be physical the
way Georgia practice, the way Michigan practices, and that's not
been usc recently. I asked Lincoln Riley about that last
week and he said, you know, he and Dan Lynn
got together and said, here, we're gonna make sure we
have what we need, but we're going to see it
like they play the LSU Week one, we'll see if
they have done that.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Is college football looking at the NFL with their kickoff rule,
could we see maybe them adopting this.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
I would suspect if the NFL feels good about it,
if they like what they see that, I think you'll
see college football do it too, because you know, you
go back. Greg Ciano had a player when the first
time around at Rutgers, he had a player who was
paralyzed on a kickoff coverage team and said, we got
to get this play out of the game because it's
dangerous and if you look at the way the kickoff
had gone in college football, they hardly ever get returned anymore.
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So the way the NFL is going to do it
is probably going to generate more returns, probably generate a
more exciting play If that works, Yeah, I would imagine
college football. Trust copy.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It great to talk to you. We're thinking about going
to Ohio State Oregon. Oh oh man.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Have you been to a game at Austin yet?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I have not.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
It's so good. You will wonder how sixty thousand people
can possibly be that loud because they sound like one
hundred thousand and it's only sixty thousand.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Is there a quiet big stadium though?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Andy the Big House, And it's like they added a
new bank of suites that has helped keep the sound in.
But the way the Big House is built, those one
hundred ten thousand seats, it's the biggest stadium in the world,
but the architecture just makes it where it's not that loud. Meanwhile, again,
across the country, you've got sixty thousand set autsin like
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blowing your ears out.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
But those stadiums go up, Michigan goes down.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like if you'd go see the Seahawks play that, that's
like you're going to a premier league.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I mean it is Wow.
Speaker 11 (30:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I live in Gainesville, Florida, where you know the swamp
is straight up and down. I've had to run the
stadium steps there. It is brutal, but it is very vertical.
And the sound holes and that's a people forget. Like
every syce My stadiums allows a lot of it is
what the architect had to do in nineteen thirty when
they built it.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I think I know more than I did before I
had youh on, Andy, So I'm ready to go and
we'll talk to you during the season.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
That's Andy Staples on three Sports. Always love having him on.
There's a lot of things that maybe you just realized
for the first time. When it comes to Notre Dame.
They can be number one in the country, but they
can't be ranked seated fifth lower than fifth, and then
you don't have divisions in the SEC and the Big Ten,
and you're guaranteed that you're going to at least be
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the what third or fourth seeded team.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
There's a lot there's a lot of moving parts here.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And nobody has talked about changing the kickoff in college football,
but I do believe from what I've been told, we're
headed in that direction. If they like what they see
with the NFL, all right, we'll take a break, get
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Speaker 4 (31:48):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
Seaton told me I had to watch The Bear and
there's three seasons. And I started watching and I was like, no,
slow burn, and then all of a sudden, I liked it.
And now I'm taking a break. I'm in season three,
episode four. I have to take a break, Seaton. I
just they're wearing me down. They're just wearing me down.
(32:22):
I can't do it, and I know I'm in the
home stretch.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I just can't.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I can't do it right now. I don't have sympathy
for anybody. I'm tired of the Bear.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Season three is an appropriate place to feel that way.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, I'm just sort.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Of first two seasons are phenomenal, They're good. Somebody described
it. It might have been weeks. Our cameramen described season three
as they the writers of The Bear said we have
three seasons and the network said, no, you have four.
They're like, no, we have three, and they said, no,
you have fours. So they've kind of it feels like
they've stretched three to make four, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And then Fritzie is getting into streaming.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Believe it or not, he finally is getting into streaming
and he said, he goes, hey, have you seen Presumed Innocent?
And I go, wait a minute, is that like the
specter of it? You know, like a cinemax or something.
Speaker 9 (33:11):
That's what I usually like to watch. But this time
it's a Jake jilln Hall like murder mystery thing and
it's really was well done. I just finished the left
episode a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, no spoilers, but I did watch episode one last
night with Jake Jillen Hulk hucked.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
That's good. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I could kind of see what was happening before it
was happening, and then it happened, and I go, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I but I liked it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
First first episode was good and uh and once again
flipping through the channels, what do I see Bourne identity?
Bourne identity, Matt Damon's going to join us, doesn't matter
where it is in the movie, I stay with it.
And it's in Paris, so I'm thinking of the Olympics.
(33:55):
So Matt Damon Jason Bourne is in Paris looking for
his identity, and I'm thinking, here we are with the Olympics.
And he also played a rugby player in a movie, Invictus.
So we'll talk to Matt. Matt Damon coming out. I
gotta believe there's another Born movie has to be right.
I mean, I don't know if he can still be
(34:16):
the action star, but I don't. We got to come
up with a script Born retirement. But there was a movie. No, no,
I shouldn't say a movie. There was a script that
was in Hollywood, as we like to say, and it
was about two pitchers who pitched for the Yankees, Fritz
Peterson and Mike Kekech back in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
They were teammates.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
They swapped wives and they married them and for one
of the players it worked out, the other one it didn't.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
But they swapped families.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I had heard that Bett Affleck and Matt Damon
were trying to get that movie made.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yes, Marvin, they were pittures, but they were so they were.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I see what you did there, Okay, Todd, take that, yeah, yeah,
but imagine that, like, how does that come up in conversation?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You know, Mike, I think Sally's kind of cute. Well, Fritz,
that's interesting because I think Paulie's kind of cute too.
That's po l one, Paulie.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Yes, yes, Todd, it's a very very exciting story.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Could possibly be a real thing.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
This would have to have been made up.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I got to ask Matt Damon about that. Yes, paul
I'm reading a little about this. I've seen this story.
It's legendary, especially in the Northeast. But the families, the
two families, the Kekeches and Peterson's had been friends since
the late sixties. They hung out with each other quite
a bit. It was not a spur of the moment thing.
The two wives started discussing it as a joke, and
(35:56):
then a few months later it became a real thing,
and before the nineteen seventy three season, they agreed to
basically trade husbands. It was the wives now it.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Was another player thrown in like it was a straight
up trade or was there like a cash consideration.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I guess sibling to be named later. From what I'm reading.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Here, it was not the men who decided this or
initiate as the women. They wanted to trade husbands, and
they got it done. Well done by them right before
spring training so it didn't spill into the season distract
the team. They announced it in the clubhouse to the
other players. One of the guys was an All star Peterson.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, so this I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I don't know if that movie's gonna get made, but
I just like the fact that somebody thought about making
a movie about that.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yes, Ton, it's.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Fantastic what we like their son, but your daughter stays
with you. We're not taking the daughter. We don't want
that dog a dog in a nightmare, so you keep that.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Somebody from Great Britain won the men's version of the triathlon,
Alex Yee yee. And somebody from France won the women's
triathlon Cassandra Bogrand Bogrand bou Grand. Yes, there was an
(37:12):
unfortunate video as the triathletes are getting out of the
Sene River. Now they've been busting it for hours and
hours and hours, one of the athletes vomited. Yes, now
there they say in for the triathlons. That's not uncommon
in any way, but the timing of the visual and
the situation not pleasant. Yeah, yeah, I could understand this
(37:34):
time around swimming in that. By the way, Gordon Hayward
has announced his retirement and one All Star appearance he
made two hundred and seventy two million dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
About a round of applonts for Gordon Hamley.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Gordon had that terrible injury, almost had one of the
great shots in NCAA history against Duke and Butler Bulldogs.
Almost but two hundred and seventy two million dollars. Gordon Hayward.
Let me see Terry in New York. Hi, Terry, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (38:11):
How are you doing great?
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Terry?
Speaker 11 (38:14):
Okay, I got something for you from yesterday. Man, will
we in New York want you to notice I beloved
New York Giants.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Man.
Speaker 11 (38:22):
I enjoyed the Super Bowl in my teenage years, and
my twenties, and my thirties and my forties. Now I'm
in my fifties. This has yet to be determined. It's
six years left in this decade. I don't think any
other major sport in the last forty years have been
say they've won at least one championship in the last
(38:42):
four decades. Now, what else I want to tell you
is we have the best Super Bowl run in the
NFL history. We played the three, one, two and three seed,
which was Green Bay, Dallas, and New England Patriots. They
were to combined forty four in four. Oh, Dan, that'll
never happen again in our lifetime. And we beat all
(39:04):
three of them, and now there are three teams. Patriots
didn't lose any games till we played them.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, Terry, I did go on David Letterman that year
and say that the Patriots were going to lose to
the Giants in the Super Bowl. So you can't say
that I'm just jumping on that run that the Giants had.
I said it on Letterman. I remember PAULI saying, what
did you say? I said the Giants will beat the
(39:30):
Patriots and the Super Bowl. He goes, oh my god,
because did you say it just because.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
You're in New York?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I go, No, One in the audience at Letterman is
from New York. They're all tourists. So I wasn't playing
to people. Said, Oh, you're playing to a hometown crowd.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I go, no, not.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I thought that they could beat the Patriots. Dave even said,
have you been drinking Jesse and Georgia? Hi, Jess, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (39:54):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Jef Yes two answer two fifty.
Speaker 12 (39:57):
Soft soft Thanks guys, Thanks guys.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (40:02):
Let me tell you I was actually going to say
this is the time, since football is slow, for our
hot quarterback draft. But after hearing some of the back
and forth of everything that's going on, I had a
couple of suggestions. Yesterday all were talking about, you know,
how men usually have color blindness doing to the research
on the old Google, and Jimmy Jimmerson had an article
(40:22):
back in twenty nineteen that said that a coinciding ailment
that came along with the color blackness was tennis elbow.
And then also, I wanted to say that when you
asked Matt Damon about the you know script and you
know the movie he was going to do with the
flat a great title, Fritzy. Come on, dude, I'm surprised
(40:43):
you didn't come up with this great title for that
movie for those Jekie Pitchers and their families.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Te bawd.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
That's all I got. Well, thank you, thank you, Jesse,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I thought he was going to go, hey, Jazz, Matt
Damon if he ever thought about swapping with Ben Affleck.
I thought we were going there, and I'm like, no,
I don't. I don't think I'm going to go there. Yes,
Hunt or yes Paula.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
The name of the movie should just be one word trade.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Hmmm. I would just say swap.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Well, we'll see, we'll see if Matt Damon and Ben
Affle are going to make that movie about wife swamping
baseball pictures swamping. Tony Dungee joins us at the top
of the hour. Back after this final hour in this
Thursday
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Say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock that's a
streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. Talk some
college football coming up. We'll kind of give you a
primer here for the upcoming season and some things that
you need to be aware of. Tony Dungeye in an
hour from now, Hall of Fame coach and the actor
Matt Damon has a new movie coming out called The Instigators,
coming out tomorrow. Katie Ledecki smokes the field in the
(00:48):
fifteen hundred No surprise there, Team USA drops South Sudan
one O three to eighty six. You've got the Hall
of Fame game coming up tonight. The Texan's a one
point favorite against the Bears. So the backups versus the
backups and the Olympics Full slate again today and tonight.
Olympic golf is underway as we speak. All right, see
(01:09):
poll question from last hour and what are we going
to go with an hour two?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, last hour day we have up there. How much
of the game do you plan on watching tonight? Texans
Bears Hall of Fame game? All of it, most of
it a passing glance or none?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The results are exactly in that order, just reversed right now.
Forty six percent of the audience say none, Wow, balanced
out by only four point two percent of the audience
watching all of it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, I won't watch all of it, but I'll certainly
do a drive by.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, passing glance thirty eight percent.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I mean, you have the Olympics going on, so you
have some competition there. But I think we're jones for football,
even if it is preseason, and even if it is
the backups who are playing. By the way, it's not
the new kickoff, it's the dynamic kickoff. The new dynamic
kickoff rule goes into effect coming up tonight, and to
(02:03):
address the lowest kickoff return rate in NFL history during
the twenty twenty three season, they've created a new form
of a kickoff, and I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I'm optimistic. How about that.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't know if I'm excited, but I am optimistic
that you're going to have something that looks like it's fun,
something that has movement. Fewer touchbacks here, and I think
we can all benefit from that. Plus, you know the
number of players who grew up and this is what
their specialty was. I mean, look at the NFL, the
(02:38):
history of the NFL. With great kick returners, we wouldn't
have them, including Devin Hester, who's going into the Hall
of Fame coming up this weekend, some of the other members.
Steve McMichael with the Chicago Bears. He's going into the
Hall of Fame. He certainly had his health issues and
don't know if he'll be able to attend the ceremonies,
but he is what a character. Had a chance to
(03:04):
visit him and his wife in their apartment many many
years ago. Invited me up and he said, Hey, I
just want you to come on up here, have a beer,
and I want to tell you about Bears football. And
I went up there and spent about an hour with
him and his wife and their little dogs. And it
overlooked the lake, and I loved it. I thought he
(03:24):
was just one, like it's one of those guys, and
he was charming, very respectful to his wife, and you know,
it was a gentleman. But then you watched him play
football and you're like he was an animal out there.
The number of sacks that he had as a defensive tackle. Now,
it used to be your defensive tackles. We didn't have
(03:44):
edge rushers growing up. You had great defensive tackles. And
Steve McMichael was a great defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I don't know, did he.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Have what eighty sacks, Paulie, maybe more than the ninety
five sacks?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
OK, only about five defensive tackles in history they have
ninety plus.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I mean Alan Page was a great pass rusher.
Carl Eller was kind of an edge rusher. Back then
you had me and Joe Green. I mean, you had guys,
but we didn't call him edge rushers. You know a
lot of times your linebackers would blitz and get a sack,
like Derek Thomas. But Steve McMichael with that defense, I
(04:25):
think is the whole front four. Paulie in the Hall
of Fame, you hat Dent Hampton, Steve McMichael and who
am I missing on your.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
They had more of a rotation of different guys there.
They didn't have well as William Perry was in the rotation.
There was a few other players in that mid eighties
Bears rotation on the defensive line.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
But their Super Bowl team, who was their other tackle?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I think Perry started, I got a chee.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh he did, Okay, yeah, but Steve McMichael, that Bears defense. Now,
that Bears defense wasn't as good as the Steel Curtain,
but it's up there as one of the greats of
all time, you know, probably a top five. But you know,
once again, it's generational. I go with the Purple people eaters,
you know, fearsome force them with the Rams Doomsday defense.
I mean, there's so many of the and it helped
(05:15):
having a great nickname like Orange Crush, Randy gratischar going
into the Hall of Fame, first member of that defense
representing Denver going into the Hall of Fame. But you know,
I don't know if these are Hall of Famer, like
first ballot Hall of Famer, you hear their name. It's
more like you got to do a little homework on them.
Andre Johnson with the Texans as well, but who was
(05:38):
the other one? Patrick Willis, Yeah, he's in, Like he's
a players player that there's certain players that go in,
or if you talk to players about certain players, they'd
be like Patrick Willis, man beast, he was awesome, consistent,
he was great, quietly awesome. Yes, yes, he was like
the guy you kind of forgot about him. But then
(05:58):
forty nine ers came round. You're like, oh, that's right.
But when you are playing eight years and Paulie can
correct me on this, but eight years and you're all
pro five years, not Pro Bowl, but all Pro. You're
going into the Hall of Fame. Now, you might say, well,
you need to play more. I just know Patrick Willis
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was one of those guys that other players talked about.
And you know that's the fun part of this. We
can look at it and go, let me look at
the stats. Players don't look at the stats. Players just
look at players, and that's when you know, wow. And
I brought up Anias Williams played for the Cardinals, didn't
play for good teams, but they other players would say, God,
(06:41):
that guy's great. Yes, Marv Dwight Freene's also going in,
Yes he is. And his coach Tony Dunjeu, Will Jones
coming up next hour. He had the spin move. I
don't know if anybody did anybody have the spin move
before Dwight Freeneye did, because it felt like that was
his signature move. Now, you know a lot of guys
use it, but Dwight Freeney was not big, came out
(07:05):
of Syracuse, but fast, and it was a different type
of rusher that it wasn't a guy who was going
to overpower you.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
He's going to blow by you. And now you see
a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know, these guys have slimmed down and you just
want to get that split second advantage on the tackle
and get the you know, cut the corner, turn the
corner and go get your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, and that Dwight Freene spin move is like the
kind of thing that you knew he was going to
do it and still couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah. Yeah, that's when you know you're great.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's like Reggie White, to me is the greatest defensive
lineman of all time. And that's I know, that's that's
a statement there. I just you had no answer for him.
Nobody ever did. And he he could just brute force
and smart's quickness. I mean all of those things. I
(08:00):
mean me and Joe Green was wonderful. There's so many
great names. This is where you know, sometimes you disrespect
somebody by saying somebody is the greatest you've ever seen.
And there's just my opinion. Reggie White, he was must
see TV. It's hard to say a defensive lineman is
must see TV. But there are certain guys growing up
who became must see TV.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Lawrence Taylor was, but he wasn't a defensive lineman. Bruce Taylor,
Bruce Smith. You're always watching You're like, I'm watching that guy,
Alan Page, I always watched him. Aaron Donald. Of course
you're going to get that guy where you just go wow.
And sometimes when you watch a play, are you watching
the defensive lineman, You're watching offensive lineman, Like I know
(08:45):
where the quarterback is going to be, so I watch
the game. I'm watching the offensive line because that tells
me everything that the quarterback is going to be able
to do. But I so many times you're watching a
defensive player, defensive lineman, and that's when it's like, that's
it's strange to say must see TV, and it's a
defensive lineman. All right, poll question for hour two is
(09:08):
going to be what their seaton ol Connor By the way,
the Olympics. You can see them in primetime tonight on
NBC and Peacock. I have two for you, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Are you more interested in the start of the NFL
season or the college football season?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, hmm, I'm gonna say the NFL because I haven't
done enough homework on college football yet to look at
like certain schedules, when somebody plays, somebody transfers, how that's
going to affect the national championship. If you look at
(09:46):
the Heisman Trophy candidates, you know they were transfers. Bo
Nicks was a transfer, Jaden Daniel's a transfer, Michael pennickx
junior was a transfer. These were the guys up for
the Heisman. Is that going to happen again this year?
You know Georgia's schedule, number of games on the road,
Texas their schedule. Florida might have the toughest schedule of anybody.
(10:13):
So we'll talk some college football coming up, and Matt
Damon will join us in the final hour of the program,
and Tony Dungee will join us.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Top of next hour. All right, a couple of phone
calls in here.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Uh Paul and Iowa, Hi Paul, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Hey Dan Well, I have a heid of the face
offer related to the Hall of Fame game. But first,
there's a John Rothstein disciple on the Hall of Fame
game day. It's my job to remind you that Gordon
Hayward just retired and he had the greatest shot in
college basketball that never went in. He had a higher
difficulty than Chris Dncoin's shot, higher difficulty than Latner's shot.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, but they went in.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah they did.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
That's why it was the best.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That didn't go in.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
He had to cross, he had a guy in his face.
Besides the fact, to my hide the face, the Bears
are plus one to ZH five to not make the playoffs.
I would like to take that. I say the Bears
will not make the playoffs this year. Do I have
any takers? Go pack go?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well, they're not expected to make the playoffs, So going
out on a limb would be like saying, hey, I
think the Bears are going to make the playoffs. They're
in a really tough You got the Packers and the
Lions in that same division, you play them twice each.
I got a rookie quarterback, I got a coach who
might be in his last year, got a good roster,
(11:36):
but it's going to take a while for that to gel.
Does anybody think the Bears will not make the playoffs?
And PAULI don't say they won't, just so you don't
get disappointed if you truly believe the Bears won't make
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
If I were betting, trying to be objective, I think
I would bet against it. Okay, I think eight wins
for any rookie quarterback is a really nice season, and
eight won't catch in.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, what would be a good season for the Bears?
And as a Bears fan, I'm gonna ask Tony Dungee
this because c J. Stroud has just changed our expectations
for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And it's not fair to Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
But c J.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stroud went into a worse situation than the Bears, and
that's Sandalot and he had one of the greatest rookie seasons,
if not the greatest rookie season. Now, don't forget Cam
Newton's rookie season. He was a tour de force. But
is nine wins a great year if you're a Bears fan,
(12:37):
or even we remove that, and I'm not a Bears fan,
I can be objective. Nine wins going from seven to nine,
it's a big jump. I think nine is a would
be a really good year, and you might have your
coach come back. Now here's the tricky one. Do you
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want your head coach to come back? Because if you
win nine, Matt Eberflus will now get extended. So it's
like it's like the cowboy fan. Hey, if you do well,
Mike McCarthy comes back. Do you want Mike McCarthy to
come back.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
In the last fifteen years, the Bears have won nine
or more games three times. Okay, I would say that
nine wins is a massive win.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I would think so too. I think they're going to
be right there. I mean, I would lean towards them
making the playoffs. But maybe I'm overly optimistic about the
players that they brought in. And I do like Caleb Williams,
and you know, I can't deny that. You know he's
coming in and he feels different than a rookie quarterback.
(13:45):
He didn't feel like Jaden Daniels or Drake May JJ McCarthy,
and he feels like, all right, I kind of know
what's going on here. Whether he does or not, he
certainly gives me that impression. Yeah, poem, I look at
it this way, and it's going to sound like a kapa.
But it's not so much the number of wins or
the stats. But at the end of the season, do
the Bears feel like they finally got a really good quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It doesn't have to be C.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
J Strous's numbers. I remember when Joe Burrow's first year
with the Bengals, he got banged up and he played
like nine or ten games, but he threw for thirteen
touchdowns and five picks, and it felt at the end
of the season the Bengals have found their guy for
the next ten years. And that feeling doesn't happen in
Chicago and has not in my lifetime, where you felt
like we are in good shape. It doesn't it to
(14:28):
be Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning. It could be a B
plus quarterback, maybe an A quarterback future that would be fantastic. Yeah,
I'm okay not making the playoffs. I could be patient.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think at the end of the year. How are
you playing at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
How threatening are you at the end of the year,
instead of all this is going to be a win
for whoever faces us. Just so your competitive, you're threatening,
you're relevant, Like that's the important part. And maybe it's
putting too much pressure to say nine wins because players
will tell you and coaches will too. Jump from seven
(15:03):
to nine that's a big jump, big jump.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes, I feel like everything that Paul just said is
exactly right. It's exactly right. Be patient. It's just not
realistic at all.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Is there a butt coming up?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Because number one overall picks don't get that. You don't
get like that somebody coming in with sort of like
that pedigree and that value and all of that stuff
and all of that hype. Playing at a big school
with nil and all this stuff and you're the number
one overall pick, you don't get. Let's just stay how
about a solid B plus that would be great.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That doesn't come with that. It's just not it's not
the real real world.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, once again, though, we're grading this on the scale
of the bar is really low in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right, I think the bar is is exactly right. Like, yes,
be patient let them. Hey, you know what a solid
B plus is great. That just doesn't seem to be
the real world.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Though.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I think the bar is set too high.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I think the expectation is so high that it shouldn't
be this high. But it is because they won seven,
and then they got the number one pick, okay, and
then they sprinkled in some upgrades. Here, it just feels like, Man,
I don't know ten eleven wins. I would put it
(16:15):
at nine, but we'll talk to Tony. Dun'tee about that.
All right, We're gonna talk some college football coming up
right after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:04):
Anybody from the triathlon check into the hospital for e coli.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
That's what I was waiting for.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And figure, I don't know how long you normally have
to wait before you ingest whatever they ingested in the
send river. I'm watching and I'm going it almost look
like hazing in a fraternity. Like now you jump in
the water. Okay, that's part of the hazing there. I
don't even know who won the triathlon. Like, to be fair,
(17:31):
we should at least mention who won the men's and
women's triathlons, just we spent a lot of time on
them jumping into the water there. All right, we'll get
to more phone calls coming up once again an hour
from now the actor Matt Damon, he's got a new
movie out, and top of next hour, Tony Dungee Hall
of Fame head coach will stop by as well. We
make way for the man who makes us smarter. When
it comes to college football, one of our favorites, Andy Staples,
(17:54):
covers college football for on three Sports. Let's start with
Michigan here because it feels like there's a report about
a report about a potential report that Michigan could be
facing a postseason ban one or two seasons. Where do
we stand with this and what exactly are the allegations
that could be pending.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Well, so that's from Chris Ballast at our Michigan site,
The Wolverine and on three and basically this is the
Connor Stallion's case. This is the advanced scouting was Connor
Stallions and then his network of spies going around and
videoing people's signals so that he could then relay them
to Michigan coaches, which advanced scouting is against the rules
(18:37):
in college football. It was banned in the nineties as
a cost cutting measure, basically one of those if Toledo
can't do it, Michigan can't do it sort of things.
And so they get caught doing that last year. That's
tacked on to some other stuff that they'd already been
working on with Jim Harbaugh, which involved basically him getting
a cheeseburger for some guys that were already committed to
Michigan that wanted to come in and look at the
(18:59):
campus during But all of that is now getting mashed
together and we're waiting to see what happens, and it
could take a long time. And basically what Chris reported
is that they're talking about potentially going after a postseason ban.
But it's such a preliminary stage here, like this is
going to take months, two years to get resolved. Michigan's
(19:19):
gonna fight, like hell.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The most pressure is it in Alabama or in Michigan
With these new coaches.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
I think it's definitely more on Klein to board Alabama
than at Michigan because you knew Michigan was going to
lose so much to the draft. But I will say,
like Sharon Moore's first year, it's kind of a nice
spot to be in where everybody thinks Oregon and Ohio
State are going to rule the Big ten. Charon Moore's
got three first round guys on his defense, and Will
Johnson and Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant, and you bring
(19:48):
Donald and Edwards back, You've got Colson lovel and really
get tight end. I don't worry about their offensive line
with Sharon Moore there, So like that's a good place
to be kind of sneaky. Hey, you're good, and you
still might make the playoff. Alabama, it's Nick Saban are tired.
Your job, Kalen de Bor is to come in and
be just as good as Nick Saban. No pressure, now,
I will say, since Kaylen de Bor got there, he's
(20:11):
done everything right. It looks like they're going to operate
very similarly. Do they operated, you know, the way they
operated with Nick Saban? But man, it's a ton of pressure,
all right?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. So
no more divisions in the Big ten in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And that's because the standings of the college football playoffs
with the Big ten in the SEC, So Notre Dame
can't be higher than five at the end of the year, right,
that's right?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Okay, But well they could be ranked higher, but they're
only going to be the five seed. That's the best
they can do.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So they could be undefeated, but be the fifth seed
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Correct, correct, And it's there's so much mott.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Are they putting pressure on them to join a conference
by doing this?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I know? Actually it's the other way around. So they're
only a d Jack Swarb help design this format and
it's basically set up now where if Notre Dame goes
ten and two in most years, they're gonna make the playoff,
and for them, they're like, you know what, that's good
enough for us, because if you're in a conference, you
have to play a conference championship game. So it's essentially
(21:17):
like playing a super first round playoff game against maybe
an even better team than you would have played. So
Jack Swarbrick the old idea Notre Dame just wired this
thing for the Irish.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Okay, let's say you win the Big Ten? Are you
the fourth seed? Like, how does it work between the
SEC and the Big Ten? Of if you win the conference?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
If you win the conference, you can be one of
the top four seeds. So like we're assuming we don't know,
because like the ACC could have a great champ who's undefeated,
but more than likely your SEC or your Big Ten
champ that's one and two. Then the three and four
seeds also have to be conference champs. So like, let's
say Florida State wins the ACC and they're your three seed. Well,
(22:00):
what if I don't know, Kansas State or Utah wins
the Big Twelve, but they're like the eleventh best team
in the country, doesn't matter, they're the four seed. Welcome
to college football. In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay, see, that's why I'm having you on because I
know we don't have college football for three weeks, so
I almost need three weeks as the primer to get
ready for this madness.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
It's gonna slap everybody in the face, especially like those
of us who are not the complete sickos like me
who just lived this three hundred and sixty five days
a year. The folks who have been watching the Olympics
and are they're like, Okay, canoe Slalom's over, let's check
out college football. You're gonna be like, what.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The hell is this?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Why your's schedule is gonna matter matter more? In the SEC? Well,
all conferences here, but.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Those the Yeah, the divisions are gone. So what you're
used to where like Georgia, when's the SEC East every year?
Well there is no SEC East now. So Georgia, you know,
maybe the best program in the SEC the last few years,
the unlucky draw. They've got to go to Alabama, to
Texas and two Ole miss which is just brutal Texas. Meanwhile,
(23:08):
first year in the SEC, you think, okay, let's haze
the right. Nope, Nope, they got a pretty easy draw. Meanwhile,
Oklahoma the other new guy in the SEC. Their schedule
just sucks. Like Tennessee comes to them, they have to
go to Auburn the following week. Their last two weeks
of the season are Alabama comes to them and then
they go to LSU.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Ouch.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Last year, a Heisman race came down to guys who transferred,
so Jad and Daniels, Michael Pennix Junior, and bow Nick.
So we're looking at same scenario this season.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
We could see some guys who were transfers last year
who are you know, had that second year bump, like
Shador Sanders at Colorado. You know, remember he was the
Jackson State year before. They're changing offenses. They're hopeful that
through the transfer portal Live improved that offensive line. They
he got SA they give it fifty six sacks last year.
So if that happens again, Schador is not going to
be the Heisman race, but there's a good chance they
(24:01):
get better. You're gonna see his numbers improve. But you've
also got speaking of transfers, Riley Leonard, the new quarterback
at Notre Dame, Dylan Gabriel coming from Oklahoma to go
to Oregon. Like there's a bunch of guys in new
places who could put up some big, big numbers.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The over under for Colorado I think is five and
a half. I would have thought it would have been
higher that Dion got humbled last year, that he would
have loaded up. Why weren't they able to load up
the way? Maybe I don't. Doesn't just come down to
the money that they have to spend.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I think that's part of it. I also think he
recruits a little bit differently. He's very transfer portal oriented.
The best teams in college football still build their foundations
through high school recruiting. They get the best players out
of high school. That's what Georgia does, Ohio State does,
and then they supplement through the portal. Dion's gone almost
completely through the portal. He doesn't do in home visits.
(24:56):
He doesn't do in school visits for the high school guys,
so it's a little bit different. Also, they don't have
the kind of money that a Georgia or in Ohio
State has.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
I do think they're going to be better than last year,
but better than last year might mean six and six
and they make a bowl game, not nine and three
and they win the Big.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Twelve I'm also wondering about this where we are with money,
because I said this a while ago that what's going
to stop a billionaire from just saying I want my
alma mater to be competitive. Here's twenty five million dollars, Like,
who's doing that? SMU, Well, that would be fun. They're trying.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
They are trying because SMU has actually gotten a little
bit back in the game now. Phil Knight and Nike, well,
it's more Phil Knight because he's not running Nike anymore.
But Phil Knight and Oregon probably the closest thing to that.
They have become a much better recruiting program than they
always were. But that doesn't mean they're getting everybody they want.
Like the other day, there was a guy that everybody
thought was going to go to Oregon. He picked LSG.
(26:00):
So there are other rich people who like different schools,
and there's still competition for this sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But is there a big separated Ohio State reportedly spending
twenty million dollars? Mm hmm, what's Georgia's spending? What's what's
well Oregon? What's the what's that check?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Ohio State and Oregon are in very similar spheres here
Alabama and Georgia is same thing. They're very competitive. It's
like any other market. It's like it's like the market
for our jobs, Dan, Like the companies that employ us
know what people who do what we do make, and
so they're going to come in with competitive offers. But
they're not going to come in with stupid offers.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Okay, but what's the going rate for a quarterback?
Speaker 10 (26:44):
Well, the transfer this year a great quarterback or potentially
a potentially good court great, we're actually stretching if we
say great, but a potentially good quarterback in the transfer
portal this year was one point five million.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Dollars per year.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Okay, what's the shit?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I will point out, though, Dan, the franchise tag for
a good safety in the NFL's fourteen million.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What's the second highest price tag per position? It's either
offensive tackle or defensive tackle.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Because those are just the rarest of humans that those
humans don't just walk around among us. When you find one,
you make sure you pay and keep them.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Who has the rights to ut in the SCC Tennis, Yes.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
We've decided it's Tennessee that they were grandfathered in during
SEC media days when we saw the abbreviations. We saw
Tennessee was UT and Texas was tex which I think
that's fair. Tennessee's I believe a charter. Remember the conference
in Texas is the new guy, so they should get
hazed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh boy, I think Texas gonna if they're upset about
horns down, they gotta be upset about UT.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Horns down, by the way, not gonna be helped by
the SEC. They're like, we don't care. Their director officials
is like, don't care. Horns down them all you want.
Texas will get over and I think they'll be okay.
They're they're they're pretty good at football right now at Texas,
so I think they're okay with with whatever you want
to throw at them, as long as when you were
just throwing a touchdown passage.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Is Lincoln Riley possibly on the hot seat at USC.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
I don't think he's on the hot seat, dam because
he got this massive contract. I do think he's got
to get things turned around. Like their defense has got
to get better. He hired Danton Lynn from UCLA to
make that defense better. And I've said this for years,
you know, going back to Oklahoma, Like it's also a
global holistic thing with Lincoln Riley, like, you have to
practice in a way that allows your defense to be
(28:43):
physical the laws, your offensive line to be physical the
way Georgia practice, the way Michigan practices, and that's not
been usc recently. I asked Lincoln Riley about that last
week and he said, you know, he and Dan Lynn
got together and said, here, we're gonna make sure we
have what we need, but we're going to see it
like they play the LSU Week one, we'll see if
they have done that.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Is college football looking at the NFL with their kickoff rule,
could we see maybe them adopting this.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
I would suspect if the NFL feels good about it,
if they like what they see that, I think you'll
see college football do it too, because you know, you
go back. Greg Ciano had a player when the first
time around at Rutgers, he had a player who was
paralyzed on a kickoff coverage team and said, we got
to get this play out of the game because it's
dangerous and if you look at the way the kickoff
had gone in college football, they hardly ever get returned anymore.
(29:34):
So the way the NFL is going to do it
is probably going to generate more returns, probably generate a
more exciting play If that works, Yeah, I would imagine
college football. Trust copy.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It great to talk to you. We're thinking about going
to Ohio State Oregon. Oh oh man.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Have you been to a game at Austin yet?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I have not.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
It's so good. You will wonder how sixty thousand people
can possibly be that loud because they sound like one
hundred thousand and it's only sixty thousand.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Is there a quiet big stadium though?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Andy the Big House, And it's like they added a
new bank of suites that has helped keep the sound in.
But the way the Big House is built, those one
hundred ten thousand seats, it's the biggest stadium in the world,
but the architecture just makes it where it's not that loud. Meanwhile, again,
across the country, you've got sixty thousand set autsin like
(30:27):
blowing your ears out.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
But those stadiums go up, Michigan goes down.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like if you'd go see the Seahawks play that, that's
like you're going to a premier league.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I mean it is Wow.
Speaker 11 (30:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I live in Gainesville, Florida, where you know the swamp
is straight up and down. I've had to run the
stadium steps there. It is brutal, but it is very vertical.
And the sound holes and that's a people forget. Like
every syce My stadiums allows a lot of it is
what the architect had to do in nineteen thirty when
they built it.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I think I know more than I did before I
had youh on, Andy, So I'm ready to go and
we'll talk to you during the season.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
That's Andy Staples on three Sports. Always love having him on.
There's a lot of things that maybe you just realized
for the first time. When it comes to Notre Dame.
They can be number one in the country, but they
can't be ranked seated fifth lower than fifth, and then
you don't have divisions in the SEC and the Big Ten,
and you're guaranteed that you're going to at least be
(31:29):
the what third or fourth seeded team.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
There's a lot there's a lot of moving parts here.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And nobody has talked about changing the kickoff in college football,
but I do believe from what I've been told, we're
headed in that direction. If they like what they see
with the NFL, all right, we'll take a break, get
to your phone.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Calls coming up right after this.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
Seaton told me I had to watch The Bear and
there's three seasons. And I started watching and I was like, no,
slow burn, and then all of a sudden, I liked it.
And now I'm taking a break. I'm in season three,
episode four. I have to take a break, Seaton. I
just they're wearing me down. They're just wearing me down.
(32:22):
I can't do it, and I know I'm in the
home stretch.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I just can't.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I can't do it right now. I don't have sympathy
for anybody. I'm tired of the Bear.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Season three is an appropriate place to feel that way.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, I'm just sort.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Of first two seasons are phenomenal, They're good. Somebody described
it. It might have been weeks. Our cameramen described season three
as they the writers of The Bear said we have
three seasons and the network said, no, you have four.
They're like, no, we have three, and they said, no,
you have fours. So they've kind of it feels like
they've stretched three to make four, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And then Fritzie is getting into streaming.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Believe it or not, he finally is getting into streaming
and he said, he goes, hey, have you seen Presumed Innocent?
And I go, wait a minute, is that like the
specter of it? You know, like a cinemax or something.
Speaker 9 (33:11):
That's what I usually like to watch. But this time
it's a Jake jilln Hall like murder mystery thing and
it's really was well done. I just finished the left
episode a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, no spoilers, but I did watch episode one last
night with Jake Jillen Hulk hucked.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
That's good. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I could kind of see what was happening before it
was happening, and then it happened, and I go, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I but I liked it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
First first episode was good and uh and once again
flipping through the channels, what do I see Bourne identity?
Bourne identity, Matt Damon's going to join us, doesn't matter
where it is in the movie, I stay with it.
And it's in Paris, so I'm thinking of the Olympics.
(33:55):
So Matt Damon Jason Bourne is in Paris looking for
his identity, and I'm thinking, here we are with the Olympics.
And he also played a rugby player in a movie, Invictus.
So we'll talk to Matt. Matt Damon coming out. I
gotta believe there's another Born movie has to be right.
I mean, I don't know if he can still be
(34:16):
the action star, but I don't. We got to come
up with a script Born retirement. But there was a movie. No, no,
I shouldn't say a movie. There was a script that
was in Hollywood, as we like to say, and it
was about two pitchers who pitched for the Yankees, Fritz
Peterson and Mike Kekech back in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
They were teammates.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
They swapped wives and they married them and for one
of the players it worked out, the other one it didn't.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
But they swapped families.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I had heard that Bett Affleck and Matt Damon
were trying to get that movie made.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yes, Marvin, they were pittures, but they were so they were.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I see what you did there, Okay, Todd, take that, yeah, yeah,
but imagine that, like, how does that come up in conversation?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You know, Mike, I think Sally's kind of cute. Well, Fritz,
that's interesting because I think Paulie's kind of cute too.
That's po l one, Paulie.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Yes, yes, Todd, it's a very very exciting story.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Could possibly be a real thing.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
This would have to have been made up.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
I got to ask Matt Damon about that. Yes, paul
I'm reading a little about this. I've seen this story.
It's legendary, especially in the Northeast. But the families, the
two families, the Kekeches and Peterson's had been friends since
the late sixties. They hung out with each other quite
a bit. It was not a spur of the moment thing.
The two wives started discussing it as a joke, and
(35:56):
then a few months later it became a real thing,
and before the nineteen seventy three season, they agreed to
basically trade husbands. It was the wives now it.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Was another player thrown in like it was a straight
up trade or was there like a cash consideration.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I guess sibling to be named later. From what I'm reading.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Here, it was not the men who decided this or
initiate as the women. They wanted to trade husbands, and
they got it done. Well done by them right before
spring training so it didn't spill into the season distract
the team. They announced it in the clubhouse to the
other players. One of the guys was an All star Peterson.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, so this I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I don't know if that movie's gonna get made, but
I just like the fact that somebody thought about making
a movie about that.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yes, Ton, it's.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Fantastic what we like their son, but your daughter stays
with you. We're not taking the daughter. We don't want
that dog a dog in a nightmare, so you keep that.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Somebody from Great Britain won the men's version of the triathlon,
Alex Yee yee. And somebody from France won the women's
triathlon Cassandra Bogrand Bogrand bou Grand. Yes, there was an
(37:12):
unfortunate video as the triathletes are getting out of the
Sene River. Now they've been busting it for hours and
hours and hours, one of the athletes vomited. Yes, now
there they say in for the triathlons. That's not uncommon
in any way, but the timing of the visual and
the situation not pleasant. Yeah, yeah, I could understand this
(37:34):
time around swimming in that. By the way, Gordon Hayward
has announced his retirement and one All Star appearance he
made two hundred and seventy two million dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
About a round of applonts for Gordon Hamley.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Gordon had that terrible injury, almost had one of the
great shots in NCAA history against Duke and Butler Bulldogs.
Almost but two hundred and seventy two million dollars. Gordon Hayward.
Let me see Terry in New York. Hi, Terry, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (38:11):
How are you doing great?
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Terry?
Speaker 11 (38:14):
Okay, I got something for you from yesterday. Man, will
we in New York want you to notice I beloved
New York Giants.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Man.
Speaker 11 (38:22):
I enjoyed the Super Bowl in my teenage years, and
my twenties, and my thirties and my forties. Now I'm
in my fifties. This has yet to be determined. It's
six years left in this decade. I don't think any
other major sport in the last forty years have been
say they've won at least one championship in the last
(38:42):
four decades. Now, what else I want to tell you
is we have the best Super Bowl run in the
NFL history. We played the three, one, two and three seed,
which was Green Bay, Dallas, and New England Patriots. They
were to combined forty four in four. Oh, Dan, that'll
never happen again in our lifetime. And we beat all
(39:04):
three of them, and now there are three teams. Patriots
didn't lose any games till we played them.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, Terry, I did go on David Letterman that year
and say that the Patriots were going to lose to
the Giants in the Super Bowl. So you can't say
that I'm just jumping on that run that the Giants had.
I said it on Letterman. I remember PAULI saying, what
did you say? I said the Giants will beat the
(39:30):
Patriots and the Super Bowl. He goes, oh my god,
because did you say it just because.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
You're in New York?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I go, No, One in the audience at Letterman is
from New York. They're all tourists. So I wasn't playing
to people. Said, Oh, you're playing to a hometown crowd.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I go, no, not.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I thought that they could beat the Patriots. Dave even said,
have you been drinking Jesse and Georgia? Hi, Jess, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (39:54):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Jef Yes two answer two fifty.
Speaker 12 (39:57):
Soft soft Thanks guys, Thanks guys.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Dan.
Speaker 12 (40:02):
Let me tell you I was actually going to say
this is the time, since football is slow, for our
hot quarterback draft. But after hearing some of the back
and forth of everything that's going on, I had a
couple of suggestions. Yesterday all were talking about, you know,
how men usually have color blindness doing to the research
on the old Google, and Jimmy Jimmerson had an article
(40:22):
back in twenty nineteen that said that a coinciding ailment
that came along with the color blackness was tennis elbow.
And then also, I wanted to say that when you
asked Matt Damon about the you know script and you
know the movie he was going to do with the
flat a great title, Fritzy. Come on, dude, I'm surprised
(40:43):
you didn't come up with this great title for that
movie for those Jekie Pitchers and their families.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Te bawd.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
That's all I got. Well, thank you, thank you, Jesse,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I thought he was going to go, hey, Jazz, Matt
Damon if he ever thought about swapping with Ben Affleck.
I thought we were going there, and I'm like, no,
I don't. I don't think I'm going to go there. Yes,
Hunt or yes Paula.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
The name of the movie should just be one word trade.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Hmmm. I would just say swap.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Well, we'll see, we'll see if Matt Damon and Ben
Affle are going to make that movie about wife swamping
baseball pictures swamping. Tony Dungee joins us at the top
of the hour. Back after this final hour in this
Thursday
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