August 2, 2024 • 41 mins
FOX Sports Radio Network weekend host and former NFL OL, Rich Ohrnberger drops by to talk some pigskin. And Chicago Bears beat writer, Kevin Fishbain joins the show to report on Caleb Williams and the Bears after last night’s Hall of Fame game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two this meet Friday, Dan and the dan
Ets Dan Patrick Show. Morale is high. Just went over
the menu with Tyler, went out and inspected the trigger grills.
We're good to go. Beer brine, buffalo chicken wings, smoked
potato salad. Who has it better than we do? No, no, no, no,
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no no. Who has it better than we do? Nobody?
I guess we got the recipe from the official grill
Master of the Buffalo Bills. He's known as the CEO
of Steak, an official position. Yes, I think our friends
at Miller Lte providing us with the recipe there. I
don't know if he's under the salary cap there with
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the Buffalo Bills. Is the official grill master of the Bills,
the CEO of Steak. Now, it feels like he gave
himself that name, right. I don't know if somebody said, man,
you're the CEO of steak and all of a sudden
he's got his nickname there. But that's our meat Friday,
and looks pretty good. Lot of wings out there. We
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got about one hundred buffalo wings, all right. Few things
to get to check in with the Chargers and the
Chicago Bears. Simone Biles, this is the way you go out.
If you go out, you win the individual and the
team gold and you're twenty seven years of age. Katie
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beat the Texans last night, New Kickoff unveiled, mixed reviews,
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former NFL offensive linemen Rich Hornberger, joining us on the
program because we got some headline, or at least potential headlines.
The Chargers justin Herbert diagnosed with a planter fanaciitis injury
and he's in a walking boot. They're hopeful he'll be
ready for week one. Rich, thanks for joining us. What's
the level of concern? What should be the level of
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concern for Charger fans.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Pretty high, pretty high. I heard you and the Danetz
talking about this earlier, and one of your guys suffered
from planner fasciitis. I dealt with this in my playing
career as well at one point, and it's excruciating. It's
one of those things where it could nag you for
a long time. And with a quarterback like Justin Herbert,
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who doesn't stand like a statue in the pocket, who
is going to get outside the pocket and create who
I'm sure Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh are going to
incorporate some level of planned QB run in this offensive
scheme this year. They're going to have to rely on
his lower body two to help this offensive one, especially
when you look at some of the paltry running stats
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they had last year. That's something they want to build
upon this year in twenty twenty four. So this should
be a huge concern for Chargers fans. Now, there's a
gradient of severity with any injury. We don't know exactly
how severe this is, but they are using an abundance
of caution here, putting him in a walking boot to
make sure to immobilize the ankle on the foot as
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best they can and This is one of those injuries
where you can't just like train your way through it.
You got to wait for the inflammation to come down
and then slowly get yourself back incorporated into playing full speed.
And like I said, at any point, if you aggravate
this again, it can put you right back to the
starting line. So this is a big concern.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Right now, how's Jim Harbaugh doing so far?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'll tell you right now. Weird works and Jim Harbaugh
he's a weird guy, and I dig it. I think
that Jim Harbaugh is doing a great job instituting his
culture really fast. Also, if you really look around this
team in a lot of ways, they've kept some of
the leaders on offense and defense, but he's cleared the decks.
I mean, this team is vastly different overall than it
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was last year from a personnel standpoint. So he is
trying to build this thing from the ground up. And
I do mean from the ground up. I mean five
wins is unacceptable for a team that has a quarterback
with as much potential as Justin Herbert. And like I said,
like that quirky vibe that he puts out. I think
you know gen z as they're making their way to
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the NFL and the generation behind them. They're into quirky
and they're into people trying to meet them where they are.
And I think Jim Harbad does a great job. He's
worked with young athletes his whole life. Obviously in the
college ranks. He had that stint with the forty nine Ers,
which was brief but successful. So I think this is
one of the best hires that the Chargers have had
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in two decades. I'm really excited to see what it
looks like this season.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What's the level of hope, Maybe hope isn't the best word.
What's the level of success that Charger fan should expect better.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Than last year?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, that could be six wins.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, yeah, Rome wasn't built to today, Dan, You know,
it takes time. Football is a brick by bricks sport.
And when you lose names like Austin Eckler and Keenan
Allen and Mike Williams and even Gerald Everett, who all
were you know, huge security blankets in some ways, but
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the go to guys for Justin Herbert over the course
of his time as the Chargers quarterback, and you're restarting,
essentially with some of the guys left over from last year,
some of the guys who didn't perform as well, like
Quinton Johnson who had a slow start he caught on
at the end of the season, or Joshua Palmer who
was out for a good stretch with injury, but then
got in there and he contributed. He finished with just
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over five hundred yards. They bring in Lad McConkey, who
is a great route runner. He can sort of play
inside and outside. But you know, you're dealing with all
new and so we don't know what to expect. And
in the backfield too. Gus Edwards comes in. You hope
that he can continue some of that success generating touchdowns.
He had thirteen last year with Baltimore. He was, you know,
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a four plus yards per carry guy. So so look,
there are things around this offense that makes sense. And
like I said, they kept some of the familiar faces
on the defense too, like Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa,
who Mack had the best season of his career with
seventeen sacks last year, but him and Bosa haven't played
a full season together yet as Chargers because there's injuries,
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situations and Derwin James. You know, he's a stud, you know,
making a ton of tackles, but his pass coverage is
if he look, they're every position group you go to,
there's good and there's bad. And so Jim Harbaugh and
Greg Roman on the offensive side especially, have their work
cut out for them. We'll see what happens. But I
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would expect them to be better than last year. But
I wouldn't put our expectations like, hey, wild card or
playoff birth. I think there's a lot of work to
be done here.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
How important is it to be on part or better
than the Rams being in the same building.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
It's very important.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's super important, Dan, You've seen it. Both the Rams
and the Chargers have struggled with their home crowds. Many
times you see takeovers when Strong visiting fan bases who
many of which live in LA or many of which
would love to spotlight or circle a vacation game in
the middle of the colder months elsewhere in the United States,
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and they'll pick that destination in LA and they'll go
support their team. And so when the Steelers play in LA,
you see a lot of terrible towels, you know what
I mean? When shoot, when the Vikings play in LA
I mean the skull chance rained down, So it's pretty
impressive what's happened in that building. But yeah, when you're playing,
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you know, alongside a team that has been so recently
successful as the Los Angeles Rams, and even they're struggling
to re establish their fan base from you know, two
and a half decades ago, it's yeoman's work for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Talking to Rich Ornberger, co host of Big Rich TD
and Fletch on San Diego Sports seven sixty, Also, you
played with the Patriots. Do you have a favorite Belichick
or Brady story that you're allowed to tell you is?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, well plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well we're in trouble now, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they're both retired or I guess
Bill's on a vacation. Yeah, but Tom's retired. One of
my favorite memories, and I just recently told this story
for the first time publicly. It wasn't a good memory
at the time, but it turned into a great story
was Bill he puts the fear of God into you.
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When you're a rookie, you know, any mistake you feel
like could be the mistake that gets you shoved right
out the door. And I was a fourth round draft
pick in two thousand and nine. And I woke up
one morning not to the sound of my alarm, but
to the sound of like birds chirping and the warm
New England sun on my face. And I'm like, oh
my god, I'm late. I'm late. I can't believe it.
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And so there's a squad meeting happening in ten minutes
and I'm fifteen minutes away. So I throw on a
pair of sweats, I sprint down to my garage. I
hop in the car and I am just flying through
this neighborhood trying to get to work. Well, so anyways,
I'm rounding a bend and I'm looking at the car
and at the clock on the dashboard, and I'm not
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a math guy, Dan, but I'm doing some quick mental
I'm not getting there in time. I see a church
van at the red light in front of me, and
I go, I'm going to hit this van. I need
an excuse to be late to work today. So I like,
at maybe ten miles per hour, I'm creeping into it.
But I bump bumpers with this church van in front
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of me, and he pulls. You know, he's making a
right hand turn, so he pulls over to the right.
I pull over behind him, and I'm like, you know,
completely sweaty and just hyper, and I'm just like, oh
my gosh. You know. I called up the team assistant, Bears.
I was like, hey, you know, Bear's Nigerian. I don't
know if you ever heard of him, but he worked
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with Bill for all those years. And I say, hey, Bears,
I'm not going to make it in on time. I
got into an accident and blah blah blah, this and that,
and he goes, hey, take your time, we get it.
You know, just when you get in here, check in
with me. I'm like, okay, okay. I hang up the
phone with him. Out from the front seat of the
car of the church van I hit was this white
bearded man who worked for a church. He looked like
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father time. This guy was one hundred years old, and
he's slowly making his way to my driver's side door,
and I rolled down the window. I'm like, no, no, no,
stay where you are, sir. I'll come out. As I'm
saying a torrential downpour on this poor old man who
I just intentionally rear ended to have an excuse not
to be way to the building. So I hop out
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of the car. We exchange information. I give him every
single dollar in my pocket. I think I had, you know,
like it was like a handful of cash. One I
think I gave him my social Security number. I'm like,
whatever you need, sir, you call me, we'll sort it out.
I'm late for work. If you don't mind, I'm just
gonna I'm gonna get out of here. Is that cool?
And he was like, it's okay, young fella. Just take
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your time wherever you're going, and God bless you. And
I'm like, I am going to help. So So I
drive to the building and my offensive line coach meets
me in the hallway and he dressed me like I've
never been spoken to before in my life. I mean,
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it was a mother effort this And I can't believe
you if you worked at IBM and instead of being
this spoiled football player, you'd be thrown out on your
head with a fern and a laptop usob this and that.
Dante Scarneki a scary dude when he was angry. So
he goes, now, now get an offensive line meeting room,
and you wait for me. So I go in there.
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The whole team arrives, we're going through a normal day
of meetings. He doesn't really address it other than to
say that I let down the whole team, the whole group.
And he was right, you know, accountability is an important thing.
Later in the day, I'm walking past Bill in one
of these long corridors in the Patriots hallways, and I mean,
you can't avoid him. There's no doors to duck into.
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I couldn't pretend I was reading something. I mean, we're
coming at each other and he's making direct eye contact
with me and Dan that is I mean, you can
feel that in your loins. I mean, it's scary stuff.
So he stops in the hallway and he goes, hey.
I'm like hey. He goes, yea, all right. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I'm good. We're about to go out to practice. He goes, okay, good,
he goes, you relate today. I go, yeah, I'm so sorry.
I had a car accident. He's like, yeah, I know,
I saw it. And I was like, you saw it,
and he goes and he just shakes his head and
I say, okay, well, I apologize. It will never happen again.
You know this and that, and he doesn't say a word.
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He just goes okay, and he just walks past me,
and somehow I got out of it continued my career
with them. But that was one of those first first
moments where I was like, oh, oh, this is different
from anything I've done before, Like there's no getting away
with anything. You have to be accountable every day. And
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so it's a fun story to tell. But I thought
I thought I was going to be back in Nassau
County on Long Island cutting DELI meets again. I thought
my career was over. But you know, I digress.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Where you are going to Hell, I'm going to Hell.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I'm for sure. I mean, that was inexcusable. Dan.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, absolutely, Thank you for welcoming us to San Diego,
San Diego Sports seven sixty and we'll stay in touch.
Thank you, Rich.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That sounds great, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's Rich Hornberger. He's a co host of Big Rich
TD and Fletch in the Afternoon, San Diego Sports seven sixty.
Former NFL Penn State Guard. That's good story to tell
and live to tell about it while you go to Hell.
Seaton update the poll results. Do we have a new
one for an hour two, we'll check in with the
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Chicago Bears. Coming up. Happy to do that.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Okay, the new kickoff is way better, better, but hokey
or worse? Do you want to guess what the results are?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm gonna say the second one.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
For have it better but worse? Second place is worse.
Thirty six percent of the vote say that this is worse.
Only fifteen percent say.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Wait, wait, how could it be worse? I'm going to
kickoff exactly? How could it pot?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I think because people are like one pre programmed to
look at something that's different than what they're used to
and be like, I don't like this, that's todd Uh yeah,
And I also think it's kind of like the cool
thing to do right now is.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Be like this is stupid. What happened to the football
I used to know? Like, I think it's way better.
What's the pole question for hour two? Uh? You know what,
we're efforting a pole customer. Okay, that's fair enough. Let's
take a break. We'll check in with the Bears. Last night,
didn't get see Kleb Williams. I was hoping now he's
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going to play in the preseason. I don't know when.
Number of plays but he's going to play and uh,
we'll check in with them after the game last night.
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Speaker 2 (16:35):
That was a great story about Bill Belichick the Patriots.
Rich Hornberger, who played for the Patriots now works in
San Diego. You're going to be late. And as he's
telling me the story because he's a rookie and I'm thinking, okay,
he said, there's a church van in front of him,
and I'm thinking, all he gotta do is bump it.
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And then you got an accident quotation marks, and I
of an excuse as to why you're going to be late.
But to think about doing that and then seeing Belichick
in the hall, and you could tell that Bill probably
wasn't buying that excuse, but he was going to accept
it and to be able to live to tell about it.
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Pretty good story, all right. Eight seven seven three DP
show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP
show Amani Toomor, former wide receiver. He was on the
Craig Carton show Fox Sports One had this to say
about Caleb Williams, the rookie quarterback with the Bears, earning
respect in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
He's Russell Wilson two point zero.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Uhh, this is not going to go over well if
you came.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
In the locker room.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I've been here.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I've been in this locker room for eight years, like
you said, And you know someone he's going to come
in who hasn't played one snap right talking. You know,
we're wearing the fingernail polish.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You know.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Now he's going to come in here and tell me
we've been here, We've been through the struggle that I
need to clean up.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
No, how about rookie how about you clean up after me?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
How about that?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Don't give me this crap.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I feel like rookies should earn their respect.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Sure, just because you got drafted number one doesn't mean
nothing to me because I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
If you're good. That's a Monie tumor. And Kevin Fishbing,
senior writer for The Athletic, he covers the Chicago Bears.
Why is Caleb Williams so polarizing?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Well, Dan, For one thing, if Caleb Williams becomes Russell
Wilson two point zero Bears fans would be thrilled. They'd
have statues of him lining Lake Michigan, that'd be a
pretty good thing to happen. You know, Caleb, as you know,
I mean, you saw it, you followed it. There were
so many stories and reports about his career at USC
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that we're polarizing. I don't think he's polarizing in Chicago.
He certainly doesn't seem polarizing at all in the locker room.
You know, when that story was told, it was safety
Kevin Bayer, who's been in the league for a long time,
and he was telling it as a compliment. He was
saying how he was impressed by it, and look, there's
going to be things that a rookie is going to
do that Caleb's going to do that A lot of
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rookies don't do. But there are a whole lot of
rookies like Caleb Williams, Dan, and I think as long
as he plays well, he's going to earn a lot
of respect in that building and outside the building as well.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What is a reasonable expectation level, let's say in Chicago
and let outside of Chicago, what do you think are
they similar in the expectations for the Bears.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, it's interesting for this year, Dan, because I think CJ.
Stroud said, I don't want to say it was unreasonable,
but that was historic what he did last year. So
now people see them think, well, if CJ. Stroud can
do with the Texans, why can't Caleb Williams do that
with Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and this group with
the Bears. But we still have to understand he's a rookie, Like,
there's going to be defenses he's never seen before. There's
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gonna be edge rushers coming at him. He's never seen
that speed before. I think in Chicago I think in
that building, they're very excited, but they know this is
not like you know, the but they're not making Super
Bowl run this year. Nobody's expecting that. I think you
go doing nine games, ten games this year. If Caleb
is protecting the football, making big plays with his arm
and his legs, and you see the glimpses of this
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guy's going to be a star, you can start having
a lot of fun with twenty twenty five expectations. I
think that's kind of the way that they are looking
at it because they know it's you, Andrew Luck, RG three,
Russell Wilson, se just Stroud. That's the end to the
list of you know, rookie quarterbacks who took their team
to the playoffs in the last decade, or maybe a
couple others here and there, but those are the big ones.
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So it's hard. It's going to be hard for cable Ins,
but I do think that they certainly see where he's going.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would caution, whether you're a Bear or not a
Bear fan, that don't look for a number of wins.
Look for a feel. Is your team threatening second half
of the season. Are you a tough out for teams?
Are you are you winning games on the road, are
you winning close games? Those are the things that are
really important. I would think said of saying, hey, we
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got nine wins, didn't make the playoffs, but we got
blown out a few times, or we didn't look like
we were a great team or good team at the
end of the year. I think that number gets that
the number can be deceiving with wins.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Well, and again, I mean this is another Bears thing.
Dan and Paul could talk about this for years. Right, Look,
this team won twelve games in twenty eighteen with miss Trubisky.
You know, they've won a lot of games with other,
you know, average middling quarterbacks. They have done that for decades.
So you're right, it's not for this town, for this city,
for this franchise. It's about seeing that the quarterback has
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that potential and then you can kind of build off that.
And you know, you look too at mis Trubisky and
Justin Fields and Jay Cutler, the guys who haven't worked here,
who had so much promise. It's a lot of those
close games. Were they able to come out and win
those games in the final minutes and they just those
guys just didn't do it enough and I think Caleb Williams,
he certainly has shown them that he's got the ability
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to do it. And that's one of the things. Right
if they go nine and eight and just miss the playoffs,
but he leads three comeback wins, and you see all
the great numbers, and you see all the talent, and
you see it's all there, you can feel really good
about where this is going.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Kevin Fishbain, senior writer for The Athletic covering the Bears.
But I wonder if this is true though, keV. If
you're a Bears fan, are you comparing yourself to the Packers?
Because the Packers got their quarterback, they got you know,
they got the future. The Bears got to get their
future as well.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I mean they're always comparing themselves to the Packers, and
that has not gone well for thirty years. They make
that comparison. Yeah, look, that's that's the problem. I mean,
it is everybody wants results right away, and what Jordan
Love did last year was sensational, and so Packers fans like,
we're good, we're set, We've got our guy, and Bears
fans like, well, hopefully at the end of this year
we can say the same thing. And look, Jordan Love
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might continue to be a great quarterback in camp Williams,
it might take him a year before he's on that echelon.
He might be there at the end of this sear.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That's what's also going to make this season top for
the Bears is they're right now, as exciting as their
offense looks, you can't really say they're anywhere better than
third in their own division. When you look at the
Packers and you look at Detroit, it's gonna be it's
gonna be a tough season for them, and with everything
they've got, and again that's why you know, it's just
building towards next year and the year after where they're
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still going to have cap space they're still gonna have
they still have another pick from Carolina for next year,
and they can kind of get onto that level.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I was surprised that they kept Eberflus. How well your
reaction to them not doing anything at the head coaching position.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, you know, it's when when you were around the
team a lot and you see the way that you
saw the way Ryan Poles and Matty Rufus worked together connected.
You can see the bond there between GM and head coach.
You can see the bond between the new team president
Kevin Warren. Certainly chairman George McCaskey is sick and tired
of having to continue to change things. But you had
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Jim Harbaugh, I mean, Bill Belichick's there, Pete Carroll, like
all these different things. It seemed like a perfect opportunity
for them. But there was so much respect in that
building for Matty Aberflus did last year.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Do you think Harball would have taken that job if offered, you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Know, I mean, I don't know how he would be
able to say no to Chicago and that franchise. Obviously
he's got the strong connection to it having played there
and the ability to have Caleb Williams that I don't
know how that would have worked. I don't know how
that would have worked with Kevin Warren, right, you know,
the two of them going back to their Big ten days.
I don't know how that would have worked. With the
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with the McCaskey family. That would have been a very
very interesting thing. And again, Dan, you know this, every
single year that Jim Harbaugh bears thing was a conversation.
I just it was hard to see if that it
would have ever worked. But I'm curious, Dan, what the
national perception of Matt Eberflus is going to be come
next Wednesday morning, after the first episode of Hard Knocks,
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you know, because I mean, many people outside Chicago really
know anything about this guy. And aside from you know,
there was some really shaky times at the beginning of
last season and he didn't look great. Things changed, The
defense got better, the team got better. He got a
lot more comfortable and a lot more confident. The players
really respect him, and I'm very interested to see what
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the Eberflutes persona looks like on HBON Tuesday. He's a
different guy. He just loves football, he just loves talking ball.
He's not he's not you know, he he's got a
little hard bought to him. But he's not these Sean
mcvay's Kyle Shanahan type. So it's he's just a little different.
I think fans might kind of think, I kind of
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like this guy. We we'll see, but that is that
in the moment, I wasn't surprised Eberfoo's was staying because
this franchise just hates being in this coaching cycle. But
this franchise has been in this quarterback cycle for so long,
and when you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Drive to go hand in hand, it feels like though
keV they do.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
And I mean you look, you go back, you know
you love right after you trade for j Cutler, right
and then you you know, you look at Matt Naggi,
he's here, he and he inherits Mitch Trubisky. Right then
he drafts Justin Fields and he's fired along with Ryan Pace.
So then the next regime inherits Justin Fields. So if
you like, they obviously want this to work for myriad reasons,
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but just to be able to keep GM head coach
quarterback aligned as long as they can is so important.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Before I let you go, how surprised would you be
of Justin Fields is the starting quarterback for the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I mean I would if he's had surprise Dan. We
all know he's got talents, we all know he's got
physical abilities. I think you know there it seems like
more of a health thing with Russell Wilson. I mean, look,
I saw Russell Wilson in person last year when the
Broncos came back from let's see like multiple touchdowns down
at Soldier Field, and he looked like the Russell Olds.
And you know, I think there are things that Justin
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Fields can do at Justin's best that are Russell Wilson esque,
But there are certain things we talk about the fourth quarter,
you know, that was what Fields could not do as
a time as a Bear, was win those games when
it mattered most late in the games. And that's what
Russell Wilson's on his entire career. So I think of
Russell Wilson's healthy, it should be Russell Wilson. But I
think a lot of Bears. Man, Everyone's very interested to
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see what Field's career amounts to because we all know
the physical abilities are there, but there was a lot
else that just wasn't coming together.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Great to talk to you, Thank you, Kevin, Thanks for
joining us. Thanks Dan, Kevin Fishbein, senior writer for The
Athletic covering the Chicago Bears. I'm higher on Justin Fields,
I think than a lot of people are, but he
didn't have any stability there when it came to coaching,
and now you're with Mike Tomlin, so there's no excuse
for that. But you know, Kevin's right with Russell Wilson.
(27:43):
Russ is still at his peak, and you had you're
an underdog, and he was the quarterback I could pick,
you know. Watching him in that Super Bowl against New England,
he was unbelievable. The Patriots did not have an answer
until they had an answer when they needed to at
the goal line. But in that game, he was tremendous.
(28:07):
He was unbelievable out playing Brady. That's saying a lot,
but he was clutch. And then all of a sudden
it just evaporated, like gets weird. And I don't know
any other analogy of It's like a band can't come
up with a hit anymore. That Russ all of a sudden,
it was like where's where's When are we gonna let
(28:28):
Russ cook? We're letting him cook? He can't cook. I mean,
he's a short order cook at McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Wait wait, wait, where's the filet mignon? No that's not here. Yes, chef, No,
not necessarious chef. He's a cook, yes, poem.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
It does feel like stats lie sometimes because Russ Wilson
in Seattle's first nine years was awesome. His last year
in Seattle people thought was bad. He threw for twenty
five touchdowns and six picks on paper. That sounds like
a really nice season. Yeah, last year in Denver he
was he threw for twenty six touchdowns and eight pick
Like a Bears fan.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Would kill Fisk, you would you take that?
Speaker 9 (29:03):
But it felt like he had a very bad season
last year, not even.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, your coach doesn't like you. I mean, how awkward
is that that you show up and you know your
coach does not like you. And Sean Payton didn't make
any secret of that. He just I got to move on.
I want to move on. He didn't want to deal
with Russ two point zero of the different Russ than
(29:28):
maybe what we saw in Seattle, and Sean Payton was
not going to put up with it. He's like, no, no,
we're not doing this. Yes one.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Does he need another All Pro season or two to
make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I brought this topic up. I don't know if it
was last year or the year before. Is he playing
himself out of the Hall of Fame? I mean he's decorated.
I think if you win that other Super Bowl Hall
of Fame, no matter what went to two one one,
(30:02):
I think an All Pro or a Pro bowler eight
or nine times, okay, probably probably a Hall of Famer
right now. But I do think there is the possibility
could play his way out. Let's say if he had
two bad seasons in Pittsburgh he gets bened for Justin Fields.
(30:26):
I don't know. Maybe a lot of it's what have
you done for me lately? You don't go back through
the scrap book and go, oh, that's right.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's like if I say Russell Wilson Hall of Famer,
what is your reaction, Todd, I'll say it to you,
Russell Wilson, hall of Famer. Not yet setan no, Marvin, no, PAULI,
no doubt. That would be a yes. Yes, Okay, that's
a no, no doubt. Gwen Stefani, Yes, yes either the yes,
(31:00):
she's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yes, he's one play away from having two rings. His
regular season stats and winning percentage is drastically better than
Eli Manning. I mean, his stats blow Eli Manning's out
of the water. His win loss percentage as a starter
blow him.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Out of the water.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
And he's one play away from matching him in Super Bowls.
I know his last name's not Manning, which hurts him.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well see Eli playing in New York and the Manning
name and he beat the Patriots twice. That's it. I
don't think anybody could tell you any other numbers with Eli.
I don't think they would know, you know, if he
was a guy who was really a five hundred career
winning percentage.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Yes, isn't the Manning name kind of overrated as far
as that's the reason why he's getting in Archie's not in.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, but Arch didn't put up. Arch played for bad teams.
But you guys said the last name, but he didn't win. Well,
I'm saying, you know, Arch is established it. He was
a Heisman Trophy candidate. Peyton, you know, reinvented the position
and Eli won two tied, so we knew. And you're
right about expectations. I was told when Eli was coming
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out of college he would be better than Peyton. I
was told by an NFL scout, He'll be better than
Peyton because he was more athletic. I mean, he was
just everything about him. He was a better athlete than
his brother and had a calm disposition, and I was like, Wow,
he's going to be better than Peyton. That's saying a lot, Yes, Pauline,
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just to.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
Compare it, Eli Manning in his career, like you said,
he was a five hundred starter exactly one seventeen and
one seventeen. He threw three hundred and sixty six touchdowns.
ELI with two hundred and forty four picks. Russell has
three hundred and thirty four touchdowns with less than half
the amount of picks, only one oh six. And Russ
as a starter is one fifteen and seventy two. And
this is just regular season. But that's really not close.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
God, if he beats the Patriots, then there's no it's
over early. It's it's yes. He would he would have
been a Hall of Famer after Seattle.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Eli's eight and four in the playoffs and all of
his wins were on Super Bowl runs. He never won
a playoff game in which he didn't want to said.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Two years where he won eight games.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
He was four and oh in two years and lost
four other times in the playoffs. Didn't even advance Russell.
Wilson is nine and seven as a playoff quarterback. Yeah,
super Bowl pair. I think this year and next year
really big for USS.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I do.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And look, you got stability at the head coaching position,
and you got a really good defense. He got some
weapons on offense. I hope he does well I do,
because you don't want to see somebody fall off just
like that. You know, sometimes it's injury with with Russ,
(33:52):
it's it's more of the mental part of this that
kind of fell off. But you know, Paul, he's right,
these numbers are deceiving. If I I put if I
said this quarterback had these numbers, and I gave you
Russell Wilson's numbers from last year, you'd go, all right,
that's pretty good. And how many franchises would take those
numbers that he put up? But we looked at it
(34:14):
as an abject failure there in Denver. They were a mess.
And if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and I said, hey,
Mike Tom, we're gonna plug those numbers in at that position,
he'd be like, sign me up. I'm great. I mean,
you're fine with that if you're a Steeler head coach
with your quarterbacks, absolutely all right. Let me take a break.
(34:37):
Let me see. Oh, Paul Finbaum, he's going to join
his top of the hour. I forgot all about that.
He's been on fire, all right, not literally, Let's take
a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
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Speaker 2 (34:58):
Mike Trout's been shut down for the season again. He's
going to be a Hall of Famer. You know, it
was one of those we were talking about this before
the show started. Could he play his way or injure
his way out of the Hall of Fame? And I
don't think so. I think the resume is too good. Plus,
when your career's cut shorter, limited because of injuries, it's different.
(35:22):
I mean this is kind of like a Ken Griffy
junior start those first eight to ten years, Like Albert
Poohols had probably the greatest first ten years of a career,
then didn't do much after that and Griffy was injured
as well. Trout's got three MVPs. I mean that alone
going to put you in the Hall of Fame. It's
(35:42):
just it's not that I feel sorry for him, because look,
he wants to stay with the Angels, He's making a
lot of money. It's just more frustrating that you don't
get to see, Like in all sports, we want to
see the best players. You want to see them play
in big games, and we won't get that. With Mike Trout,
it's just not going to happen. And you start to
(36:05):
think about greats of the game and he's being mentioned
with Mickey Mantle and legendary players, and yes he was
on that meteoric rise, but you know, being available, I
mean that's you got to be available, and he hasn't
been available, and these injuries again, they start to compile,
(36:27):
and now do you have to change positions for him?
What can you expect out of him? Is there going
to be a load management with him? I think they're
locked in for maybe five more years something like that
with his contract. Yeah, but you know we had a
glimpse of him in the playoffs against Camp. Other than that,
I mean, what is your Mike Trout moment? He was
(36:50):
always one of those players and there's certain players where
your dad would say, we're gonna go see him play
because that's how you play the game. I mean I
did that with Mike kids, Derek Jeter's last year. I
said we're gonna go to a game at Yankee Stadium
and you can see Derek Jeter. Now, my daughters didn't
really care. They're young and they're like, all right, what
are we watching? I go, just watch how he handles himself,
(37:13):
and you're like. They're like. My wife goes, wait, how
he handles himself? Like she thought, like he's handling himself,
and I go, no, how he carries himself. So I'm
trying to explain something that I think is simple, but
it's not. When you go watch how you know his demeanor?
And they were like, and he had a base hit
and he's leading out first. My wife goes like, is
(37:37):
that his demeanor? Like, what is he doing? I'm going, now,
my son understands baseball, but my girls didn't and my
wife didn't, but they were game. I mean, it was
a beautiful afternoon, and we went to see Derek Jeter
because that's that's the way you play the game. Kids.
How was your day, man, we saw somebody with great demeanor,
Yes we did. He leads the lead demeanor. Dad, Yeah,
(38:02):
I go, oh my gosh. But I said, one day
you'll be able to tell your kids that you went
to see Derek Jeter. And then my oldest daughter, smart ass,
goes yeah, and we got to see his demeanor. I said,
you're right, you are right. There's a lot of things
going on this weekend. I'm watching the Olympic golf. Tommy
(38:23):
Fleetwood doing well, John Rahm doing well. But Olympic golf
coming up this weekend. As you slider your way into
Slider Sunday. Thanks to King Sawaan so Adeki Matsuyama, John Rahm,
is Ander Schoffley, Tommy Fleetwood, they're the favorites here to
take home the gold. Paul Skeens gets the start on Sunday.
(38:44):
He was plus twelve hundred to win the nationally Rookie
of the Year and starting the All Star Game and
six and one record. He is now behind Chris Sale
to win the cy Young Wow. So Sale plus one
twenty schemes is at plus one fifty. USA Basketball. We've
got Puerto Rico and uh okay, so they got my
(39:09):
South Sudan Serbia. They got Puerto Rico and uh Puerto
Rico has who is it Alvarado with the Pelicans Okay,
and they got some guy who played at the l
s u Waters. Yeah, Olympic gold medal match. Is it
(39:31):
gonna be joker? If he wins, then he faced Is
he going to face Carlos Alcarez for the gold? That's
pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't know if you're joker. Do you go, oh God,
that kid again? Not you again? And Olympic Surfing in
Tahiti semi finals will take place. Okay? Is there a
lot of a lot of things going on this weekend?
Speaker 8 (39:56):
Yes, Paul?
Speaker 9 (39:57):
Did you want to quickly play how much do the
Los Angeles Angels? Oh, Mike trout game or the next
six games?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Well, let me do that while I say this about
sliding into slider Sunday kings Hawaiian and there's no wrong
way to slider into a slider Sunday. Enjoy the weekend
with family and friends with King Hawaian recipe inspiration at
kings Hawaiian dot com. Okay, how much do the Angels Omo?
Mike Trump?
Speaker 9 (40:18):
Mike Trott is under contract for six more seasons, completely guaranteed,
no way out. What do they owe him total honey
over the next six years?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So six times? I'll say two and thirty two million dollars?
Give that to you.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
It's two twenty three?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Oh I.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Transposed? What is it? I mixed up transport three and
the two in the How much of a bargain was
that contract? Huh wow? Final hour on the way, Paul, Finebaum.
He's going to join us. He got a new contract.
Did he SPN. We'll talk to him. It is to
meet Friday. The Tragger girls fired up. So are we
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got wings? We got beers coming up too. Final hour
after this
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two this meet Friday, Dan and the dan
Ets Dan Patrick Show. Morale is high. Just went over
the menu with Tyler, went out and inspected the trigger grills.
We're good to go. Beer brine, buffalo chicken wings, smoked
potato salad. Who has it better than we do? No, no, no, no,
(00:26):
no no. Who has it better than we do? Nobody?
I guess we got the recipe from the official grill
Master of the Buffalo Bills. He's known as the CEO
of Steak, an official position. Yes, I think our friends
at Miller Lte providing us with the recipe there. I
don't know if he's under the salary cap there with
(00:47):
the Buffalo Bills. Is the official grill master of the Bills,
the CEO of Steak. Now, it feels like he gave
himself that name, right. I don't know if somebody said, man,
you're the CEO of steak and all of a sudden
he's got his nickname there. But that's our meat Friday,
and looks pretty good. Lot of wings out there. We
(01:08):
got about one hundred buffalo wings, all right. Few things
to get to check in with the Chargers and the
Chicago Bears. Simone Biles, this is the way you go out.
If you go out, you win the individual and the
team gold and you're twenty seven years of age. Katie
Ledecki also twenty seven years of age, the most medals
buy an Olympic female swimmer thirteenth medal, and the Bears
(01:30):
beat the Texans last night, New Kickoff unveiled, mixed reviews,
and Mike Trout out for the season. We'll talk about
that coming up in a little bit. We say good
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Sports seven sixty and one of the radio hosts their
(01:54):
former NFL offensive linemen Rich Hornberger, joining us on the
program because we got some headline, or at least potential headlines.
The Chargers justin Herbert diagnosed with a planter fanaciitis injury
and he's in a walking boot. They're hopeful he'll be
ready for week one. Rich, thanks for joining us. What's
the level of concern? What should be the level of
(02:16):
concern for Charger fans.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Pretty high, pretty high. I heard you and the Danetz
talking about this earlier, and one of your guys suffered
from planner fasciitis. I dealt with this in my playing
career as well at one point, and it's excruciating. It's
one of those things where it could nag you for
a long time. And with a quarterback like Justin Herbert,
(02:41):
who doesn't stand like a statue in the pocket, who
is going to get outside the pocket and create who
I'm sure Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh are going to
incorporate some level of planned QB run in this offensive
scheme this year. They're going to have to rely on
his lower body two to help this offensive one, especially
when you look at some of the paltry running stats
(03:01):
they had last year. That's something they want to build
upon this year in twenty twenty four. So this should
be a huge concern for Chargers fans. Now, there's a
gradient of severity with any injury. We don't know exactly
how severe this is, but they are using an abundance
of caution here, putting him in a walking boot to
make sure to immobilize the ankle on the foot as
(03:24):
best they can and This is one of those injuries
where you can't just like train your way through it.
You got to wait for the inflammation to come down
and then slowly get yourself back incorporated into playing full speed.
And like I said, at any point, if you aggravate
this again, it can put you right back to the
starting line. So this is a big concern.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Right now, how's Jim Harbaugh doing so far?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'll tell you right now. Weird works and Jim Harbaugh
he's a weird guy, and I dig it. I think
that Jim Harbaugh is doing a great job instituting his
culture really fast. Also, if you really look around this
team in a lot of ways, they've kept some of
the leaders on offense and defense, but he's cleared the decks.
I mean, this team is vastly different overall than it
(04:13):
was last year from a personnel standpoint. So he is
trying to build this thing from the ground up. And
I do mean from the ground up. I mean five
wins is unacceptable for a team that has a quarterback
with as much potential as Justin Herbert. And like I said,
like that quirky vibe that he puts out. I think
you know gen z as they're making their way to
(04:35):
the NFL and the generation behind them. They're into quirky
and they're into people trying to meet them where they are.
And I think Jim Harbad does a great job. He's
worked with young athletes his whole life. Obviously in the
college ranks. He had that stint with the forty nine Ers,
which was brief but successful. So I think this is
one of the best hires that the Chargers have had
(04:57):
in two decades. I'm really excited to see what it
looks like this season.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What's the level of hope, Maybe hope isn't the best word.
What's the level of success that Charger fan should expect better.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Than last year?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, that could be six wins.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, yeah, Rome wasn't built to today, Dan, You know,
it takes time. Football is a brick by bricks sport.
And when you lose names like Austin Eckler and Keenan
Allen and Mike Williams and even Gerald Everett, who all
were you know, huge security blankets in some ways, but
(05:38):
the go to guys for Justin Herbert over the course
of his time as the Chargers quarterback, and you're restarting,
essentially with some of the guys left over from last year,
some of the guys who didn't perform as well, like
Quinton Johnson who had a slow start he caught on
at the end of the season, or Joshua Palmer who
was out for a good stretch with injury, but then
got in there and he contributed. He finished with just
(06:01):
over five hundred yards. They bring in Lad McConkey, who
is a great route runner. He can sort of play
inside and outside. But you know, you're dealing with all
new and so we don't know what to expect. And
in the backfield too. Gus Edwards comes in. You hope
that he can continue some of that success generating touchdowns.
He had thirteen last year with Baltimore. He was, you know,
(06:22):
a four plus yards per carry guy. So so look,
there are things around this offense that makes sense. And
like I said, they kept some of the familiar faces
on the defense too, like Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa,
who Mack had the best season of his career with
seventeen sacks last year, but him and Bosa haven't played
a full season together yet as Chargers because there's injuries,
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situations and Derwin James. You know, he's a stud, you know,
making a ton of tackles, but his pass coverage is
if he look, they're every position group you go to,
there's good and there's bad. And so Jim Harbaugh and
Greg Roman on the offensive side especially, have their work
cut out for them. We'll see what happens. But I
(07:07):
would expect them to be better than last year. But
I wouldn't put our expectations like, hey, wild card or
playoff birth. I think there's a lot of work to
be done here.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
How important is it to be on part or better
than the Rams being in the same building.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
It's very important.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's super important, Dan, You've seen it. Both the Rams
and the Chargers have struggled with their home crowds. Many
times you see takeovers when Strong visiting fan bases who
many of which live in LA or many of which
would love to spotlight or circle a vacation game in
the middle of the colder months elsewhere in the United States,
(07:47):
and they'll pick that destination in LA and they'll go
support their team. And so when the Steelers play in LA,
you see a lot of terrible towels, you know what
I mean? When shoot, when the Vikings play in LA
I mean the skull chance rained down, So it's pretty
impressive what's happened in that building. But yeah, when you're playing,
(08:10):
you know, alongside a team that has been so recently
successful as the Los Angeles Rams, and even they're struggling
to re establish their fan base from you know, two
and a half decades ago, it's yeoman's work for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Talking to Rich Ornberger, co host of Big Rich TD
and Fletch on San Diego Sports seven sixty, Also, you
played with the Patriots. Do you have a favorite Belichick
or Brady story that you're allowed to tell you is?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, well plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well we're in trouble now, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they're both retired or I guess
Bill's on a vacation. Yeah, but Tom's retired. One of
my favorite memories, and I just recently told this story
for the first time publicly. It wasn't a good memory
at the time, but it turned into a great story
was Bill he puts the fear of God into you.
(09:08):
When you're a rookie, you know, any mistake you feel
like could be the mistake that gets you shoved right
out the door. And I was a fourth round draft
pick in two thousand and nine. And I woke up
one morning not to the sound of my alarm, but
to the sound of like birds chirping and the warm
New England sun on my face. And I'm like, oh
my god, I'm late. I'm late. I can't believe it.
(09:31):
And so there's a squad meeting happening in ten minutes
and I'm fifteen minutes away. So I throw on a
pair of sweats, I sprint down to my garage. I
hop in the car and I am just flying through
this neighborhood trying to get to work. Well, so anyways,
I'm rounding a bend and I'm looking at the car
and at the clock on the dashboard, and I'm not
(09:54):
a math guy, Dan, but I'm doing some quick mental
I'm not getting there in time. I see a church
van at the red light in front of me, and
I go, I'm going to hit this van. I need
an excuse to be late to work today. So I like,
at maybe ten miles per hour, I'm creeping into it.
But I bump bumpers with this church van in front
(10:18):
of me, and he pulls. You know, he's making a
right hand turn, so he pulls over to the right.
I pull over behind him, and I'm like, you know,
completely sweaty and just hyper, and I'm just like, oh
my gosh. You know. I called up the team assistant, Bears.
I was like, hey, you know, Bear's Nigerian. I don't
know if you ever heard of him, but he worked
(10:39):
with Bill for all those years. And I say, hey, Bears,
I'm not going to make it in on time. I
got into an accident and blah blah blah, this and that,
and he goes, hey, take your time, we get it.
You know, just when you get in here, check in
with me. I'm like, okay, okay. I hang up the
phone with him. Out from the front seat of the
car of the church van I hit was this white
bearded man who worked for a church. He looked like
(11:02):
father time. This guy was one hundred years old, and
he's slowly making his way to my driver's side door,
and I rolled down the window. I'm like, no, no, no,
stay where you are, sir. I'll come out. As I'm
saying a torrential downpour on this poor old man who
I just intentionally rear ended to have an excuse not
to be way to the building. So I hop out
(11:23):
of the car. We exchange information. I give him every
single dollar in my pocket. I think I had, you know,
like it was like a handful of cash. One I
think I gave him my social Security number. I'm like,
whatever you need, sir, you call me, we'll sort it out.
I'm late for work. If you don't mind, I'm just
gonna I'm gonna get out of here. Is that cool?
And he was like, it's okay, young fella. Just take
(11:43):
your time wherever you're going, and God bless you. And
I'm like, I am going to help. So So I
drive to the building and my offensive line coach meets
me in the hallway and he dressed me like I've
never been spoken to before in my life. I mean,
(12:04):
it was a mother effort this And I can't believe
you if you worked at IBM and instead of being
this spoiled football player, you'd be thrown out on your
head with a fern and a laptop usob this and that.
Dante Scarneki a scary dude when he was angry. So
he goes, now, now get an offensive line meeting room,
and you wait for me. So I go in there.
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The whole team arrives, we're going through a normal day
of meetings. He doesn't really address it other than to
say that I let down the whole team, the whole group.
And he was right, you know, accountability is an important thing.
Later in the day, I'm walking past Bill in one
of these long corridors in the Patriots hallways, and I mean,
you can't avoid him. There's no doors to duck into.
(12:45):
I couldn't pretend I was reading something. I mean, we're
coming at each other and he's making direct eye contact
with me and Dan that is I mean, you can
feel that in your loins. I mean, it's scary stuff.
So he stops in the hallway and he goes, hey.
I'm like hey. He goes, yea, all right. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I'm good. We're about to go out to practice. He goes, okay, good,
he goes, you relate today. I go, yeah, I'm so sorry.
I had a car accident. He's like, yeah, I know,
I saw it. And I was like, you saw it,
and he goes and he just shakes his head and
I say, okay, well, I apologize. It will never happen again.
You know this and that, and he doesn't say a word.
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He just goes okay, and he just walks past me,
and somehow I got out of it continued my career
with them. But that was one of those first first
moments where I was like, oh, oh, this is different
from anything I've done before, Like there's no getting away
with anything. You have to be accountable every day. And
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so it's a fun story to tell. But I thought
I thought I was going to be back in Nassau
County on Long Island cutting DELI meets again. I thought
my career was over. But you know, I digress.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Where you are going to Hell, I'm going to Hell.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I'm for sure. I mean, that was inexcusable. Dan.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, absolutely, Thank you for welcoming us to San Diego,
San Diego Sports seven sixty and we'll stay in touch.
Thank you, Rich.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That sounds great, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's Rich Hornberger. He's a co host of Big Rich
TD and Fletch in the Afternoon, San Diego Sports seven sixty.
Former NFL Penn State Guard. That's good story to tell
and live to tell about it while you go to Hell.
Seaton update the poll results. Do we have a new
one for an hour two, we'll check in with the
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Chicago Bears. Coming up. Happy to do that.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Okay, the new kickoff is way better, better, but hokey
or worse? Do you want to guess what the results are?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm gonna say the second one.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
For have it better but worse? Second place is worse.
Thirty six percent of the vote say that this is worse.
Only fifteen percent say.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Wait, wait, how could it be worse? I'm going to
kickoff exactly? How could it pot?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I think because people are like one pre programmed to
look at something that's different than what they're used to
and be like, I don't like this, that's todd Uh yeah,
And I also think it's kind of like the cool
thing to do right now is.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Be like this is stupid. What happened to the football
I used to know? Like, I think it's way better.
What's the pole question for hour two? Uh? You know what,
we're efforting a pole customer. Okay, that's fair enough. Let's
take a break. We'll check in with the Bears. Last night,
didn't get see Kleb Williams. I was hoping now he's
(15:40):
going to play in the preseason. I don't know when.
Number of plays but he's going to play and uh,
we'll check in with them after the game last night.
We're back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (16:35):
That was a great story about Bill Belichick the Patriots.
Rich Hornberger, who played for the Patriots now works in
San Diego. You're going to be late. And as he's
telling me the story because he's a rookie and I'm thinking, okay,
he said, there's a church van in front of him,
and I'm thinking, all he gotta do is bump it.
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And then you got an accident quotation marks, and I
of an excuse as to why you're going to be late.
But to think about doing that and then seeing Belichick
in the hall, and you could tell that Bill probably
wasn't buying that excuse, but he was going to accept
it and to be able to live to tell about it.
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Pretty good story, all right. Eight seven seven three DP
show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP
show Amani Toomor, former wide receiver. He was on the
Craig Carton show Fox Sports One had this to say
about Caleb Williams, the rookie quarterback with the Bears, earning
respect in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
He's Russell Wilson two point zero.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Uhh, this is not going to go over well if
you came.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
In the locker room.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I've been here.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
I've been in this locker room for eight years, like
you said, And you know someone he's going to come
in who hasn't played one snap right talking. You know,
we're wearing the fingernail polish.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You know.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Now he's going to come in here and tell me
we've been here, We've been through the struggle that I
need to clean up.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
No, how about rookie how about you clean up after me?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
How about that?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Don't give me this crap.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I feel like rookies should earn their respect.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Sure, just because you got drafted number one doesn't mean
nothing to me because I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
If you're good. That's a Monie tumor. And Kevin Fishbing,
senior writer for The Athletic, he covers the Chicago Bears.
Why is Caleb Williams so polarizing?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Well, Dan, For one thing, if Caleb Williams becomes Russell
Wilson two point zero Bears fans would be thrilled. They'd
have statues of him lining Lake Michigan, that'd be a
pretty good thing to happen. You know, Caleb, as you know,
I mean, you saw it, you followed it. There were
so many stories and reports about his career at USC
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that we're polarizing. I don't think he's polarizing in Chicago.
He certainly doesn't seem polarizing at all in the locker room.
You know, when that story was told, it was safety
Kevin Bayer, who's been in the league for a long time,
and he was telling it as a compliment. He was
saying how he was impressed by it, and look, there's
going to be things that a rookie is going to
do that Caleb's going to do that A lot of
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rookies don't do. But there are a whole lot of
rookies like Caleb Williams, Dan, and I think as long
as he plays well, he's going to earn a lot
of respect in that building and outside the building as well.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
What is a reasonable expectation level, let's say in Chicago
and let outside of Chicago, what do you think are
they similar in the expectations for the Bears.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, it's interesting for this year, Dan, because I think CJ.
Stroud said, I don't want to say it was unreasonable,
but that was historic what he did last year. So
now people see them think, well, if CJ. Stroud can
do with the Texans, why can't Caleb Williams do that
with Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and this group with
the Bears. But we still have to understand he's a rookie, Like,
there's going to be defenses he's never seen before. There's
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gonna be edge rushers coming at him. He's never seen
that speed before. I think in Chicago I think in
that building, they're very excited, but they know this is
not like you know, the but they're not making Super
Bowl run this year. Nobody's expecting that. I think you
go doing nine games, ten games this year. If Caleb
is protecting the football, making big plays with his arm
and his legs, and you see the glimpses of this
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guy's going to be a star, you can start having
a lot of fun with twenty twenty five expectations. I
think that's kind of the way that they are looking
at it because they know it's you, Andrew Luck, RG three,
Russell Wilson, se just Stroud. That's the end to the
list of you know, rookie quarterbacks who took their team
to the playoffs in the last decade, or maybe a
couple others here and there, but those are the big ones.
(20:34):
So it's hard. It's going to be hard for cable Ins,
but I do think that they certainly see where he's going.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would caution, whether you're a Bear or not a
Bear fan, that don't look for a number of wins.
Look for a feel. Is your team threatening second half
of the season. Are you a tough out for teams?
Are you are you winning games on the road, are
you winning close games? Those are the things that are
really important. I would think said of saying, hey, we
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got nine wins, didn't make the playoffs, but we got
blown out a few times, or we didn't look like
we were a great team or good team at the
end of the year. I think that number gets that
the number can be deceiving with wins.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Well, and again, I mean this is another Bears thing.
Dan and Paul could talk about this for years. Right, Look,
this team won twelve games in twenty eighteen with miss Trubisky.
You know, they've won a lot of games with other,
you know, average middling quarterbacks. They have done that for decades.
So you're right, it's not for this town, for this city,
for this franchise. It's about seeing that the quarterback has
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that potential and then you can kind of build off that.
And you know, you look too at mis Trubisky and
Justin Fields and Jay Cutler, the guys who haven't worked here,
who had so much promise. It's a lot of those
close games. Were they able to come out and win
those games in the final minutes and they just those
guys just didn't do it enough and I think Caleb Williams,
he certainly has shown them that he's got the ability
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to do it. And that's one of the things. Right
if they go nine and eight and just miss the playoffs,
but he leads three comeback wins, and you see all
the great numbers, and you see all the talent, and
you see it's all there, you can feel really good
about where this is going.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Kevin Fishbain, senior writer for The Athletic covering the Bears.
But I wonder if this is true though, keV. If
you're a Bears fan, are you comparing yourself to the Packers?
Because the Packers got their quarterback, they got you know,
they got the future. The Bears got to get their
future as well.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I mean they're always comparing themselves to the Packers, and
that has not gone well for thirty years. They make
that comparison. Yeah, look, that's that's the problem. I mean,
it is everybody wants results right away, and what Jordan
Love did last year was sensational, and so Packers fans like,
we're good, we're set, We've got our guy, and Bears
fans like, well, hopefully at the end of this year
we can say the same thing. And look, Jordan Love
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might continue to be a great quarterback in camp Williams,
it might take him a year before he's on that echelon.
He might be there at the end of this sear.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That's what's also going to make this season top for
the Bears is they're right now, as exciting as their
offense looks, you can't really say they're anywhere better than
third in their own division. When you look at the
Packers and you look at Detroit, it's gonna be it's
gonna be a tough season for them, and with everything
they've got, and again that's why you know, it's just
building towards next year and the year after where they're
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still going to have cap space they're still gonna have
they still have another pick from Carolina for next year,
and they can kind of get onto that level.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I was surprised that they kept Eberflus. How well your
reaction to them not doing anything at the head coaching position.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, you know, it's when when you were around the
team a lot and you see the way that you
saw the way Ryan Poles and Matty Rufus worked together connected.
You can see the bond there between GM and head coach.
You can see the bond between the new team president
Kevin Warren. Certainly chairman George McCaskey is sick and tired
of having to continue to change things. But you had
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Jim Harbaugh, I mean, Bill Belichick's there, Pete Carroll, like
all these different things. It seemed like a perfect opportunity
for them. But there was so much respect in that
building for Matty Aberflus did last year.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Do you think Harball would have taken that job if offered, you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Know, I mean, I don't know how he would be
able to say no to Chicago and that franchise. Obviously
he's got the strong connection to it having played there
and the ability to have Caleb Williams that I don't
know how that would have worked. I don't know how
that would have worked with Kevin Warren, right, you know,
the two of them going back to their Big ten days.
I don't know how that would have worked. With the
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with the McCaskey family. That would have been a very
very interesting thing. And again, Dan, you know this, every
single year that Jim Harbaugh bears thing was a conversation.
I just it was hard to see if that it
would have ever worked. But I'm curious, Dan, what the
national perception of Matt Eberflus is going to be come
next Wednesday morning, after the first episode of Hard Knocks,
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you know, because I mean, many people outside Chicago really
know anything about this guy. And aside from you know,
there was some really shaky times at the beginning of
last season and he didn't look great. Things changed, The
defense got better, the team got better. He got a
lot more comfortable and a lot more confident. The players
really respect him, and I'm very interested to see what
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the Eberflutes persona looks like on HBON Tuesday. He's a
different guy. He just loves football, he just loves talking ball.
He's not he's not you know, he he's got a
little hard bought to him. But he's not these Sean
mcvay's Kyle Shanahan type. So it's he's just a little different.
I think fans might kind of think, I kind of
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like this guy. We we'll see, but that is that
in the moment, I wasn't surprised Eberfoo's was staying because
this franchise just hates being in this coaching cycle. But
this franchise has been in this quarterback cycle for so long,
and when you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Drive to go hand in hand, it feels like though
keV they do.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
And I mean you look, you go back, you know
you love right after you trade for j Cutler, right
and then you you know, you look at Matt Naggi,
he's here, he and he inherits Mitch Trubisky. Right then
he drafts Justin Fields and he's fired along with Ryan Pace.
So then the next regime inherits Justin Fields. So if
you like, they obviously want this to work for myriad reasons,
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but just to be able to keep GM head coach
quarterback aligned as long as they can is so important.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Before I let you go, how surprised would you be
of Justin Fields is the starting quarterback for the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I mean I would if he's had surprise Dan. We
all know he's got talents, we all know he's got
physical abilities. I think you know there it seems like
more of a health thing with Russell Wilson. I mean, look,
I saw Russell Wilson in person last year when the
Broncos came back from let's see like multiple touchdowns down
at Soldier Field, and he looked like the Russell Olds.
And you know, I think there are things that Justin
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Fields can do at Justin's best that are Russell Wilson esque,
But there are certain things we talk about the fourth quarter,
you know, that was what Fields could not do as
a time as a Bear, was win those games when
it mattered most late in the games. And that's what
Russell Wilson's on his entire career. So I think of
Russell Wilson's healthy, it should be Russell Wilson. But I
think a lot of Bears. Man, Everyone's very interested to
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see what Field's career amounts to because we all know
the physical abilities are there, but there was a lot
else that just wasn't coming together.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Great to talk to you, Thank you, Kevin, Thanks for
joining us. Thanks Dan, Kevin Fishbein, senior writer for The
Athletic covering the Chicago Bears. I'm higher on Justin Fields,
I think than a lot of people are, but he
didn't have any stability there when it came to coaching,
and now you're with Mike Tomlin, so there's no excuse
for that. But you know, Kevin's right with Russell Wilson.
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Russ is still at his peak, and you had you're
an underdog, and he was the quarterback I could pick,
you know. Watching him in that Super Bowl against New England,
he was unbelievable. The Patriots did not have an answer
until they had an answer when they needed to at
the goal line. But in that game, he was tremendous.
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He was unbelievable out playing Brady. That's saying a lot,
but he was clutch. And then all of a sudden
it just evaporated, like gets weird. And I don't know
any other analogy of It's like a band can't come
up with a hit anymore. That Russ all of a sudden,
it was like where's where's When are we gonna let
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Russ cook? We're letting him cook? He can't cook. I mean,
he's a short order cook at McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Wait wait, wait, where's the filet mignon? No that's not here. Yes, chef, No,
not necessarious chef. He's a cook, yes, poem.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
It does feel like stats lie sometimes because Russ Wilson
in Seattle's first nine years was awesome. His last year
in Seattle people thought was bad. He threw for twenty
five touchdowns and six picks on paper. That sounds like
a really nice season. Yeah, last year in Denver he
was he threw for twenty six touchdowns and eight pick
Like a Bears fan.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Would kill Fisk, you would you take that?
Speaker 9 (29:03):
But it felt like he had a very bad season
last year, not even.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, your coach doesn't like you. I mean, how awkward
is that that you show up and you know your
coach does not like you. And Sean Payton didn't make
any secret of that. He just I got to move on.
I want to move on. He didn't want to deal
with Russ two point zero of the different Russ than
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maybe what we saw in Seattle, and Sean Payton was
not going to put up with it. He's like, no, no,
we're not doing this. Yes one.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Does he need another All Pro season or two to
make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I brought this topic up. I don't know if it
was last year or the year before. Is he playing
himself out of the Hall of Fame? I mean he's decorated.
I think if you win that other Super Bowl Hall
of Fame, no matter what went to two one one,
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I think an All Pro or a Pro bowler eight
or nine times, okay, probably probably a Hall of Famer
right now. But I do think there is the possibility
could play his way out. Let's say if he had
two bad seasons in Pittsburgh he gets bened for Justin Fields.
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I don't know. Maybe a lot of it's what have
you done for me lately? You don't go back through
the scrap book and go, oh, that's right.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's like if I say Russell Wilson Hall of Famer,
what is your reaction, Todd, I'll say it to you,
Russell Wilson, hall of Famer. Not yet setan no, Marvin, no, PAULI,
no doubt. That would be a yes. Yes, Okay, that's
a no, no doubt. Gwen Stefani, Yes, yes either the yes,
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she's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yes, he's one play away from having two rings. His
regular season stats and winning percentage is drastically better than
Eli Manning. I mean, his stats blow Eli Manning's out
of the water. His win loss percentage as a starter
blow him.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Out of the water.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
And he's one play away from matching him in Super Bowls.
I know his last name's not Manning, which hurts him.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well see Eli playing in New York and the Manning
name and he beat the Patriots twice. That's it. I
don't think anybody could tell you any other numbers with Eli.
I don't think they would know, you know, if he
was a guy who was really a five hundred career
winning percentage.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Yes, isn't the Manning name kind of overrated as far
as that's the reason why he's getting in Archie's not in.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, but Arch didn't put up. Arch played for bad teams.
But you guys said the last name, but he didn't win. Well,
I'm saying, you know, Arch is established it. He was
a Heisman Trophy candidate. Peyton, you know, reinvented the position
and Eli won two tied, so we knew. And you're
right about expectations. I was told when Eli was coming
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out of college he would be better than Peyton. I
was told by an NFL scout, He'll be better than
Peyton because he was more athletic. I mean, he was
just everything about him. He was a better athlete than
his brother and had a calm disposition, and I was like, Wow,
he's going to be better than Peyton. That's saying a lot, Yes, Pauline,
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just to.
Speaker 9 (32:34):
Compare it, Eli Manning in his career, like you said,
he was a five hundred starter exactly one seventeen and
one seventeen. He threw three hundred and sixty six touchdowns.
ELI with two hundred and forty four picks. Russell has
three hundred and thirty four touchdowns with less than half
the amount of picks, only one oh six. And Russ
as a starter is one fifteen and seventy two. And
this is just regular season. But that's really not close.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
God, if he beats the Patriots, then there's no it's
over early. It's it's yes. He would he would have
been a Hall of Famer after Seattle.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
Eli's eight and four in the playoffs and all of
his wins were on Super Bowl runs. He never won
a playoff game in which he didn't want to said.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Two years where he won eight games.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
He was four and oh in two years and lost
four other times in the playoffs. Didn't even advance Russell.
Wilson is nine and seven as a playoff quarterback. Yeah,
super Bowl pair. I think this year and next year
really big for USS.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I do.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And look, you got stability at the head coaching position,
and you got a really good defense. He got some
weapons on offense. I hope he does well I do,
because you don't want to see somebody fall off just
like that. You know, sometimes it's injury with with Russ,
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it's it's more of the mental part of this that
kind of fell off. But you know, Paul, he's right,
these numbers are deceiving. If I I put if I
said this quarterback had these numbers, and I gave you
Russell Wilson's numbers from last year, you'd go, all right,
that's pretty good. And how many franchises would take those
numbers that he put up? But we looked at it
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as an abject failure there in Denver. They were a mess.
And if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and I said, hey,
Mike Tom, we're gonna plug those numbers in at that position,
he'd be like, sign me up. I'm great. I mean,
you're fine with that if you're a Steeler head coach
with your quarterbacks, absolutely all right. Let me take a break.
(34:37):
Let me see. Oh, Paul Finbaum, he's going to join
his top of the hour. I forgot all about that.
He's been on fire, all right, not literally, Let's take
a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (34:58):
Mike Trout's been shut down for the season again. He's
going to be a Hall of Famer. You know, it
was one of those we were talking about this before
the show started. Could he play his way or injure
his way out of the Hall of Fame? And I
don't think so. I think the resume is too good. Plus,
when your career's cut shorter, limited because of injuries, it's different.
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I mean this is kind of like a Ken Griffy
junior start those first eight to ten years, Like Albert
Poohols had probably the greatest first ten years of a career,
then didn't do much after that and Griffy was injured
as well. Trout's got three MVPs. I mean that alone
going to put you in the Hall of Fame. It's
(35:42):
just it's not that I feel sorry for him, because look,
he wants to stay with the Angels, He's making a
lot of money. It's just more frustrating that you don't
get to see, Like in all sports, we want to
see the best players. You want to see them play
in big games, and we won't get that. With Mike Trout,
it's just not going to happen. And you start to
(36:05):
think about greats of the game and he's being mentioned
with Mickey Mantle and legendary players, and yes he was
on that meteoric rise, but you know, being available, I
mean that's you got to be available, and he hasn't
been available, and these injuries again, they start to compile,
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and now do you have to change positions for him?
What can you expect out of him? Is there going
to be a load management with him? I think they're
locked in for maybe five more years something like that
with his contract. Yeah, but you know we had a
glimpse of him in the playoffs against Camp. Other than that,
I mean, what is your Mike Trout moment? He was
(36:50):
always one of those players and there's certain players where
your dad would say, we're gonna go see him play
because that's how you play the game. I mean I
did that with Mike kids, Derek Jeter's last year. I
said we're gonna go to a game at Yankee Stadium
and you can see Derek Jeter. Now, my daughters didn't
really care. They're young and they're like, all right, what
are we watching? I go, just watch how he handles himself,
(37:13):
and you're like. They're like. My wife goes, wait, how
he handles himself? Like she thought, like he's handling himself,
and I go, no, how he carries himself. So I'm
trying to explain something that I think is simple, but
it's not. When you go watch how you know his demeanor?
And they were like, and he had a base hit
and he's leading out first. My wife goes like, is
(37:37):
that his demeanor? Like, what is he doing? I'm going, now,
my son understands baseball, but my girls didn't and my
wife didn't, but they were game. I mean, it was
a beautiful afternoon, and we went to see Derek Jeter
because that's that's the way you play the game. Kids.
How was your day, man, we saw somebody with great demeanor,
Yes we did. He leads the lead demeanor. Dad, Yeah,
(38:02):
I go, oh my gosh. But I said, one day
you'll be able to tell your kids that you went
to see Derek Jeter. And then my oldest daughter, smart ass,
goes yeah, and we got to see his demeanor. I said,
you're right, you are right. There's a lot of things
going on this weekend. I'm watching the Olympic golf. Tommy
(38:23):
Fleetwood doing well, John Rahm doing well. But Olympic golf
coming up this weekend. As you slider your way into
Slider Sunday. Thanks to King Sawaan so Adeki Matsuyama, John Rahm,
is Ander Schoffley, Tommy Fleetwood, they're the favorites here to
take home the gold. Paul Skeens gets the start on Sunday.
(38:44):
He was plus twelve hundred to win the nationally Rookie
of the Year and starting the All Star Game and
six and one record. He is now behind Chris Sale
to win the cy Young Wow. So Sale plus one
twenty schemes is at plus one fifty. USA Basketball. We've
got Puerto Rico and uh okay, so they got my
(39:09):
South Sudan Serbia. They got Puerto Rico and uh Puerto
Rico has who is it Alvarado with the Pelicans Okay,
and they got some guy who played at the l
s u Waters. Yeah, Olympic gold medal match. Is it
(39:31):
gonna be joker? If he wins, then he faced Is
he going to face Carlos Alcarez for the gold? That's
pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't know if you're joker. Do you go, oh God,
that kid again? Not you again? And Olympic Surfing in
Tahiti semi finals will take place. Okay? Is there a
lot of a lot of things going on this weekend?
Speaker 8 (39:56):
Yes, Paul?
Speaker 9 (39:57):
Did you want to quickly play how much do the
Los Angeles Angels? Oh, Mike trout game or the next
six games?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Well, let me do that while I say this about
sliding into slider Sunday kings Hawaiian and there's no wrong
way to slider into a slider Sunday. Enjoy the weekend
with family and friends with King Hawaian recipe inspiration at
kings Hawaiian dot com. Okay, how much do the Angels Omo?
Mike Trump?
Speaker 9 (40:18):
Mike Trott is under contract for six more seasons, completely guaranteed,
no way out. What do they owe him total honey
over the next six years?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So six times? I'll say two and thirty two million dollars?
Give that to you.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
It's two twenty three?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Oh I.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Transposed? What is it? I mixed up transport three and
the two in the How much of a bargain was
that contract? Huh wow? Final hour on the way, Paul, Finebaum.
He's going to join us. He got a new contract.
Did he SPN. We'll talk to him. It is to
meet Friday. The Tragger girls fired up. So are we
(41:00):
got wings? We got beers coming up too. Final hour
after this
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Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
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