August 6, 2024 • 41 mins
The San Francisco 49ers appear ready to move on from WR Brandon Aiyuk. And Miami Dolphins Head Coach, Mike McDaniel drops by to talk some pigskin as the NFL preseason heats up.
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It feels like with some of these other sports. Now
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some events. Canoeing is in there. You also have the discus.
Three on three was yesterday with the United States team
the women's team. They finished with the bronze. Surfing pole
vaulting was awesome yesterday. So we'll recap everything that happened
and preview what's going to happen later on today and tonight.
Team USA is favored by twenty seven against Brazil. This
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is the men's team, and I'm a curious the over
unders here point totals checked with DraftKings because much has
been made about Jason Tatum not playing well. I got
over unders for Anthony Edwards, Lebron, James, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry.
They didn't have one available for Jason Tatum. I hope,
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I hope the news media can survive if Jason Tatum
doesn't play or doesn't play that much. But over under
right now, Kevin Durant, expected to have a big day
against Brazil, is over under his fifteen and a half.
Although I get that feeling Anthony Edwards. The deeper we
get into this, the more important he's going to become.
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And it feels like, and he even said this when
they started, that he felt like he was the go
to guy on this team. But Lebron at fourteen and
a half points, Steph Curry twelve and a half points
and Anthony Edwards thirteen and a half points. I was
watching the women's three on three yesterday and I couldn't
help but chuckle out loud. I was watching with Marvin
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and we've talked about this before, where there are a
lot of people who started watching the WNBA maybe women's basketball,
just because of Caitlin Clark. Therefore, whatever happened to Caitlin Clark,
that's pretty much their introduction to women's basketball. Now, I'm
not speaking for everybody, but I'm speaking for a lot
of people who in the media didn't watch the WNBA.
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The physicality in the three on three tournament yesterday with
Team USA rivaled anything with the NBA. Now there's no
fast breaks, it says three on three, it's physical. You're
setting picks, you're getting knocked down going for rebounds, loose ball,
and you know, there was a bronze medal at stake
for Team USA. If you watch that, then you'll realize
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the physicality that is in women's basketball, and it's been
there for quite some time. It's just if you only
watch Caitlin Clark at IOWA, nobody was physical with her
unless you know it was deep into the tournament where
they tried to get physical with her. You couldn't put
a body on her, and you didn't have you know,
athletes as many athletes in college basketball facing Caitlin Clark,
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but watching the three on three with other countries Team USA,
it's physical. Yah, it's not you know, we're out there
just kind of slow dance in here. It's physical. You're
getting knocked down. And I loved it because it meant
something to them yesterday the Team USA winning the bronze.
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I guess we can frame this as breaking news or
the potential for breaking news. The forty nine ers are
looking at the Browns and Patriots as a destination for
Brandon Ayuk. Now this was reported Bay Area Sports, NBC
bay Area and came out overnight, and now you have
the Niners. Brandon Nyuk is still there with the Niners
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in camp. He has a chance to double his salary.
He can also reject if he doesn't want to go
to the Patriots or the Browns, or the Steelers or
the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He can do that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's twenty six. This is his big chance to get
a big contract here. Now you're looking at the Browns
and the Patriots. Patriots According to DraftKings are expected to
have the worst offense in football this year. Steelers also
one of the worst offenses in football. The Browns are
still an enigma because, well, you have Deshaun Watson, you
have that ownership group. They just paid Amari Cooper and
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according to the report, Amari Cooper would probably go to
San Francisco and you'd basically be swapping receivers. One who's
thirty one who's twenty six. But Brandon Nyuk is a
better receiver, more dangerous receiver because he can beat you downfield.
Amari Cooper's already gotten paid. Brandon Nyuk wants to get
trade once to get paid. But we did think about this.
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If you're Brandon Nayuk, how important is the winning part
of this? Or you just want to get paid. Now
I understand if you're twenty six, you haven't been paid.
You want to get paid. You can worry about a
super Bowl. He's already been to a super Bowl. You
want to get paid first. This might be your only
chance at a big contract. But he can say if
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he doesn't want to go to the Patriots, and why
would you because your numbers are going to suffer. They
don't even know who they're I mean is Drake May's
not going to be your starting quarterback. But then you're
going to have a situation where if he goes to Cleveland, Okay,
got a chance, good offense, maybe Deshaun Watson kind of
revisits what he used to be as a quarterback. There,
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got a good defense. They made something out of nothing
last year when Deshaun was not available, got injured. But
that's the news right now that Brandon Ayuk and this
feels like this is something that could happen by the
end of the week because this is dragged on. You've
got to get to the point where you get him
in cam But it is a real report that there
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is a framework in place of what it's going to
take now. Only I think the only compensation we've heard
is the Browns would include Amari Cooper their wide receiver.
A Marii Cooper I think had twelve hundred yards last
year with different quarterbacks. That's pretty remarkable season considering everything
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that happened with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You lose your running back.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Amari Cooper was really good and helped keep afloat that
team and give them a legitimate go to guy when
Joe Flacco was in there. But that's what we know
right now that the framework is in place for Ayuk
to be traded. But if you're Ayuk and you know what,
San Francisco, I'm going to look at it this way.
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The report came out of the Bay Area, If it
came out of New England or came out of Cleveland,
then it's different from me. This feels like the Niners
are passing on some information to let everybody know you're
open for business, and also, here's your chance last call
for Brandon Nyuk instead of this is coming from the
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Steelers camp or the Patriots camp, the Browns camp that
somebody there broke this. No, this is San Francisco saying
we're moving on from Brandon n Ayuk because you can't afford him,
because you're gonna have to pray play paid rock perty
and you're not gonna be able to do that. But
you're paying Bosa Deebo, Christian McCaffrey, Kittle compensated. Trent Williams
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still has to be paid. But you know, this is
a situation sort of like Kansas City Chiefs with Tyreek Hill.
At some point you have to say it does not
make financial sense to keep him as great as he is,
and they benefited. I think Mahomes became a or showed
again that how great he is as a quarterback, became
an even better quarterback without Tyreek Hill because he spread
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the offense instead of I'm going to just focus on
Tyreek Hill. Now, Tyreek Hill is a wonderful weapon to have,
but it felt like Mahomes was able to be a
quarterback again and truly spread the wealth there. With brock Purty,
I think he needs all the help he can get,
and he certainly would want that going into this next contract,
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brock Purty makes less than a million dollars a year,
He's going to get over fifty million dollars. There's always
going to be casualties here, financial casualties here. I also
wondered about this. Let's say Brandon Nayuk gets upwards of
thirty million dollars a year, Well, you know who's on
the clock, Ceedee Lamb and the Cowboys. As the price
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continues to go up. This could have been solved a
long time ago, unless they don't want to solve it.
Same thing with Dak Prescott. Unless they don't want to
solve it. But the prices keep going up here, and
I'm sure Cede Lambs Camp's going waye or Jamar Chase
same thing. Wait a minute, what's he getting? And this
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all started with Justin Jefferson, But Brandon Aiyuk is going
to probably double his salary at least with whoever you
know takes him if he wants to go, because once again,
he doesn't have a no trade claw. I think it's complicated.
I don't know enough about it other than he can
reject wherever the Niners you know, are trying to trade
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him to. If there's a deal and he goes, I
don't want to go to the Patriots, then he doesn't
have to go to the Patriots. But at some point,
what do the Niners do if he decides to stay,
He plays and then he plays out. You know this
last year?
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All right?
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The Chiefs have locked up Harrison, Butker we'll talk about
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Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You know, Justin Tucker is the guy we always think
of and he's well compensated and should be. But Harrison
Butker is right there with what Justin Tucker is getting
with the Kansas City Chiefs. Simone Biles wrapped up her
Paris vacation, and Noah Lyles cruises in the two hundred
meters semi finals there and really entertaining pole vaulting.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That was a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Paulie's like NBC right now, pole vault You know that
it's always very cryptic when Paulie will say peacock two
minutes ago, snug, hurry, yes, and we'll be like, I'm okay,
all right, flipping over there, good TV.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It's funny because if you do hurry, you're like, okay,
let me go see you discus, Okay.
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do you have for me, Seaton. If you are Brandon Ayuk,
where are you playing?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Where do you want to play? Browns? They might be
the best team of the bunch of new teams.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah right, well I have to start my looking at
the quarterback. New England doesn't know who they're going to
be starting. Well, they're not going to start Drake May.
But I don't even know if he's going to start
this year. Everything that I've read is he is. He
is well behind.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's tough too, is that Drake May is in camp
trying to get used to things, and he's got Joe
Milton stand next to him, who has got an absolute
cannon for an arm. The dude is like seven feet tall,
and you're like, why is that guy not playing more?
He's not exactly so he's not exactly seven feet on, nor
does he literally have Canada for his arm. However, both
of those things you could convince me are true, and
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you're like, I got to stand next to this guy
and try.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
To figure this out.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Dang, he's because he's an impressive quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, but it isn't. Jacoby Brissette still in New England.
He is, Yes, for like the eighty seventh year, not
the eighty seventh year he was back. Yeah, well he's
going to be your starter. Jacoby Brissett is going to
be your starter, and then they're going to have to
decide at some point, like I don't know what the
stability is. Got a new head coach there, they don't
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have many offensive weapons. Do I want to go to
New England? I guess if they're paying me, do I
want to go to Pittsburgh? See, I thought the Commanders
was going to be the place that he would end up,
which would have been great for Jaden Daniels. But Cleveland,
the fact that they squeezed down eleven wins last year
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was amazing given what happened with losing Chubb, losing Watson,
and they hung in there, and then you're going to
go in and you're going to replace samri Cooper. I
guess that's probably the best scenario here.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I don't know if there's an outlier where somebody goes
We're not gonna say anything yet, because once again, this
is the story's emanating from the Bay Area, from the Niners,
and therefore no other local markets or reporters are talking
about their specific team, And I think that's really the
interesting part of this. If it came from the Patriots,
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you know, then I'd be a little more curious of
how that information got out, as opposed to this is
the Niners letting everybody know they're ready to move on
from Brandon Nyuk.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All right, so poll question seeking anything else?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, Well we could keep running through some of those
teams if you want. He could always stay with the Niners,
Brandon Nyuk could it's possible for less money? For less money, yeah,
significantly less money, right.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But a chance to play in big games, great offense.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Still be what fourth and line for the ball, fifth
in the line for the ball?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Make less money? Yeah, but you're not. You're not gonna
be double covered. You're always you know, gonna have single
coverage here. No, but everybody knows the ball's not going to.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Just kidding, he's he's a really good What about the Steelers?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I thought that, but I don't know if they're willing
to pony up money that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
You could certainly use it with those quarterbacks. That doesn't
seem like.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
A bad place to play. Yeah, Pittsburgh, that organization, but
the offense isn't supposed to be good this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Again, I mean I like pickings, but I need a
little bit more. You got a good tight end, so
that to me seems like a good place. I just
don't know if everybody's willing to pay twenty five to
thirty million dollars, and that's what it's probably gonna cost
Brandon to get Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Have a certain amount of desperation there, Yeah, to get
them dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Huh yes, yes, yeah, all. Let me take a break.
We'll settle on a poll question. We'll talk to Mike McDaniel,
the Dolphins head coach. He'll join us. Coming up, there
was something that came up, a new sentence put in
the rule book regarding cheat motion and it has a
lot to do with the Miami Dolphins offense. We'll talk
to coach about that. Coming up, your phone calls, Settle
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the head coach of the Miami Dolphins and of course
a star receiver with Yale. Although I am looking at
the stats and I can't find any stats from you.
When you're a wide receiver at Yale. I got a
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great picture here, Mike. I mean you're jacked here.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, well you didn't. You didn't look up the blocking statistics.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Hmmm, now, special teams tackles, maybe.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Friendships made that.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm gonna have to take your word on that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, if you were looking at the player comp like
wide receiver who best resembles your wide receiving skills when
you were at Yale, Somebody in the NFL who plays
the way you played?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well, Uh, it's interesting you asked that. No one's ever
asked me that and then, and I know exactly the answer.
The the antithesis of every receiver that is in a
receiving core of mind. So like I utilized all of
the known Like I I was a I would body
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catch and and get no yak and a lot of
the things that I was incapable of doing. You know
that that drove my my scouting. Uh uh as the
as I became a professional coach. So quite literally, Uh,
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if they're on our team, they don't share commonalities with
how I play, because that's I knew what I didn't want,
which was great.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Who was your idol growing up?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well? Uh, I thought it was fortuitous that that my
mom named me Michael because Michael Jordan was the end all,
be all and and will continue to be. If I
ever meet him, I'll probably uh need a trust fall catcher.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Wait in Miami, Mike's and Mike's in Florida. You haven't
met Jordan.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I'm not that big a deal. Quite honestly, most most
people you know in public approached me with I T questions.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You ever have to show your ID to get in
the building, any building?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know? So in my mind, I do, I think
you know? I I don't really really do. I don't
really put thought or give justice to uh, like, you know,
being a head coach. How much I'm on TV and
then like Hard Knocks, there's uh so people do recognize me.
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I'm just always surprised by it continually.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Uh if you weren't coaching, what would you be doing?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Well? I knew from a very young age that I
needed to be passionate about something I dabbled for. I
wanted to be a coach my entire really childhood, with
exception to I think it was sixth grade. I had
about eight months where I was like, I'm gonna be
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an archae that architect. You know, I think, I I
it would have to be something that I was passionate about,
and so I was always going to go into football.
I made sure that I wasn't just single minded, uh,
you know, and I was fortunate enough to go to
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Yale University and I tried a summer internship in in business,
and then ultimately it came down I wanted to be
really good at something, and in business I couldn't. I'm
I'm too empathetic, so like I could see myself like, nah,
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you know, I don't need that much percentage. And that's
I think there's a threshold on how good you can
be in business, So I don't. I really don't know.
Maybe a hand.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Model, Okay, let me see the hands. Yeah, obviously didn't
get in a lot of use at Yale. So yeah,
they're they're looking pretty hot there.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I mean that that that that was hurtful. No, they
they did. I was, I was really I took I
took a lot of reps, you know, I just uh,
I was a selfless player and made sure that I
did all the non point of attack routes in games.
Not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He's the Yale legend who led the team in Friendships.
Mike McDaniel joining us on the program, I'd explain this
cheat motion and what happened yesterday and why are we
calling it cheat motion?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Well, I think that's a phrase Quinn by uh my
longtime work associate Kyle Shannan. We have we have another
phrase for it, but that's for another time. But you know,
I think the one thing I've always enjoyed with football
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is is, like, you know, along the process when I
was the grunt worker on the staff and trying to
find value with it within a football team. Uh, it
always made sense to me that that you're your problem
solving issues and that leads to advent or uh. You know,
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so being alongside you know, the Shanahans for my entire
career and being you know in different opportunities whereas a
coach of a position within the offense and you know,
just problem solve or problem solutions or solutions to problems.
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So like with fast guys, Uh, you know, one of
the one of the tools defenses uses re route. So
you know, I think last offseason watching motion out of
the backfield and you know, I think it was actually
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this week last year where we were in a joint practice,
and we tried it out for the first time to
problem solve some of the reroute things we're anticipating.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And this is Tyreek Hill. This is the Tyreek Hill rule.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Well, you know, actually the first person to do it
was alec Ingold. Yeah, so we did it with alec
Ingold and then and then it was like, wow, that
was cool. I bet Tyreek could do that really fast.
You know, That's kind of how it went. But you know,
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I think when we first got here in two thousand
and twenty two, you know, Tyreek, we did you know,
timing motions where you know, it was from the other side,
the other side of the ball, but you'd go across
the formation and we would start doing the some of
the routes, the deep fifteen to twenty yard routes that
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we've been doing systematically since I got into the NFL
in two thousand and five. So you know that that
was new. Then when you have certain types of football
players that are willing to try new things and fail
at it first and not get down, and you know,
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you're able to kind of press the envelope and solve
some problems through a little creativity.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm looking at the resume. So Broncos, Texans, California, Redwood, Sacramento,
Mountain Lions, Redskins, Redskins, Browns, Falcons, Niners, Niners, Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's quite a resume.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, I'm the oldest young guy, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You're working with all of these guys. So you had
Sean McVay, you had and you had Matt Lafleur. Which
person did you learn the most from from those three?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Absolutely Kyle Shanahan. He he was like he set the
table for all of us. He hired all of us
in in Washington by way of his his father, and
he he kind of trained us in the way that
he was. He was trained and and was very uh
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you know, it was cool. Like at the time, Uh,
some some of his buddies at the Washington Post didn't
think it was that cool that they called us the
fun bunch, but it was, you know, that kind of
set a foundation. And during during that time, you know,
in twenty twelve, we drafted Robert Griffin third and we
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had never done zone reads. So we we were all together,
you know, challenging the threshold of our own knowledge. We
didn't like outsource any experts. We kind of had to
problem solve and uh, you know with with with Kyle
and then his father, you know, being the ultimate bosses.
So you know, I think it was our formative foundation
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that I think you can see still today of how
we kind of go about our business.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is it possible that Tyreek Hill can be overpaid?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean see, fortunately, fortunately, my my job specifically is
to maximize players' skills, which ultimately maximizes their market value.
And then I just dust my hands off and leave
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it to Chris career the GM.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Okay, could he be underpaid?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I think yeah, not anymore.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
You know. I mean I don't really have a good
answer for any one of those, so I could pretend
to answer it or just outwardly say I'm gonna dodge
whatever you're saying. I'm so done with talking about money.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, like totally cow.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
What are the expectation levels like for this team this year?
I mean, everybody wants to win to Super Bowl? But
can you have tiers of expectations thereof we want to
get here, we want to get here, we hope to
get here.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah? No, I think you you know, first, you know,
I set set goals early, and and you know, as
we get together as a team on this year it
was April fifteenth, taxa. And you know the first one
is to establish and maintain a daily standard. You know,
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I think one thing that we try to do here
that that has gained momentum every year here and uh,
guys really taken to is is that you have you
have to. It's about doing the things that day. It's
about being present and and really attacking that day and
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then stacking that and that anything worthwhile is you're you're
you're honing your skills. And you know, I mean you
can go down the line of anyone that was ever
great and talk about deliberate practice and et cetera, et cetera.
So it's doing that then you know, then you win
the division to get a home playoff game, you win
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the conference, and you win the super Bowl. One thing
that that I think of expressed that I think the
players understand is like a lot of times people put
ceilings on their ultimate results or whatever simply by being
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afraid to be bold. You know, we we we know
that everyone says that can you go about your daily
daily life to be all in with that type of
mindset to do something like that, and in that process
you get the most out of yourself, and if it's
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short of what your goals were, be strong enough to
learn from that and press forward. But don't out of fear, hesitation,
or you know, play it safe by not being all in.
So you know, I think all is on the table
for our expectations inside the building. But what's what what
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I'm comfortable with that is because people's entire focus is like,
all right, well you're producing today if you even want
to sniff those.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, provide action with those words today, final thirty second shift.
The current NFL coaches ran the forty yard dash? Where
would you end up?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So, if you could, if you could bracket the people
in my in my age group, right, and you know,
pending there's an off season surgery. I know, Matt Lafleur
like tears, you know, Pops's achilles or tears as pack
every year or something, I'd probably in the age bracket.
(30:27):
I'd probably finished last of that of the younger guys.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Real.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
But yeah, I mean I when I say that I'm
an extreme person, like I work and then I'm a
dad and I literally so I do. I don't. I'm
saving working out till when everyone's saying to me, you
should work out, and I think I'm getting pretty close,
but I haven't got there yet.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But you can take Andy Reid.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Yeah, yes, and and like now don't I mean I am,
I'm youthful, an exert exuberant, so you know I will
I will be able to hold my own but specifically
with people that are older than me.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, you're sneaky athletic is what you are.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yes, very very sneak, very very sneaky, sneaky.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Great to finally have you on. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Okay, Well, in the words that I gave our owner
Steve Ross in my initial interview interview, like what took
you so long?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
No, we reached out.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I mean what for two years? We reached down three
favorite show with Sports Center mikey three in my favorite
show of Sports Center.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean we were told maybe in the off season
he'll talk to you.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Well, you need to get down to the bottom of
uh I have an email correspondence. Oh okay, you know what.
I need to walk that back. It's burning holes through
my face right.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Now, just saying you were always invited. Okay, well I
go to Yale games. Yeah, yes, you're the you're the guy. Yes,
that's so cool.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Quite honestly, it's it's very odd, but like I've known
you so much longer than you you've known me, ridiculous,
that is true. Yeah, you were like providing not enough
Bronco highlights for me for years.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I was I was the Tom Brady of Sports Center.
I got to do whatever I wanted to do, so
I chose not to do Bronco highlights because nobody cared
about them.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, that's a that's like a little soft flex there,
because I mean, if you get to be the Tom
Brady of something, you know, But I've always admired your
I'll say, I'll say it illustrious career.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Okay, and it is the pleasure of the year. Thank you,
open invite. Don't be a stranger.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yeah I won't, because where there's a stranger, there's danger.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Good luck. All right, don't you very much. We're all
counting on you, all.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Right, I'll I'll you need me. I'll be sweating here
in about ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Okay, thank you, coach.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
That is Mike McDaniel, former hand model and lead Yale
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It's tougher to lose twenty one in a row than
to win twenty one in a row. But the Chicago
White Sox have managed to do the nearly impossible. The
Major League record since nineteen hundred is held by the
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nineteen sixty one Philadelphia Phillies. They lost twenty three in
a row. All right, Mike McDaniel a lot of fun
And we did reach out to him in the last
two years and we were told, you know what, he'd
like to talk to Dan in the off season, and
I'm like, okay, And then we called again because I said,
(35:24):
it's not exactly the off season, but it's not actually
the season. So see if Mike McDaniel wants to come on.
Because I've seen other interviews. I know he's quirky, interesting, different, fun,
and I think he proved all of the above.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
He was excited to come on. Yes, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
I've been always wondering when I watched his ascendants because
he went from kind of a nobody four years ago
to doing a couple of press conferences to being the
Dolphins head coach. And I was like, does this guy
know more about football? What does he have? And after
that interview, I realized what he has. He's both engaging
and completely engage when he's talking to you. He was
talking to the guys and back before the interview is
(36:05):
getting set up, he was completely engaged. In talking to them.
He also feels like he's thinking on a little bit
different of a level. I don't know, it's a in
His tone is the opposite of most football coaches. He
feels like he's completely on your side and.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
With you well.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
As he said, he didn't want to talk money, tired
of talk money, doesn't care. That's you know up to
the GM that he's one of those guys who goes
into the lab and comes out with something and probably
takes great pride in Hey, Tyreek, cam here, I got
something for you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Hey to it, come here, got something point, Hey, we're
going to try this. You know what I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it does sound like he is speaking to the
players in their language. There and a lot of fun,
but you know, it comes down to you can be fun, interesting, quirky,
You can win some games. Got to win playoff games,
win your division, get a home playoff game, maybe get
to the conference champapionship, because that's how you're measured. And
(37:03):
the fact that you had Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur, Mike McDaniel,
Kyle Shanahan on one staff that's crazy offensive minds. I
don't even know what that must have sounded like when
they got together speaking their own language, and then all
of a sudden they're like, yeah, and then we do
the cheat motion, and then you know, it's basically sort
(37:25):
of the CFL. You know, they're talking about the cheat
motion and it's Tyreek Hill really is what it is
that you're trying to get your guy in motion so
he can get a little bit more of an advantage
on the defense. As if Tyreek Hill needs any more
of that, but this is something that they talked about
yesterday with the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
All right, we'll get to poll question Setan.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I've read, by the way, the cheat motion description.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Do you understand it? No?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Nope, No, I think I'm usually more of a better
visual learner than just reading something.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I don't think you have to stop.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think that's what the cheat motion is is your
guy can be in motion. He can be moving instead
of motion to stop. Now you have motion. You know,
the CFL does this all the time when they run
up to the line of scrimmage and then they got
a head start.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Any eligible backfield player who changes his stance does not
have to come to a complete stop prior to the snap,
as long as his actions are not abrupt, false start
or forward, which is illegal motion.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, So it feels like this is a we're gonna
let you be in motion. We're going to give you
an advantage.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
What you can run side to side, you just can't
run forward.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, So Tyreek Hill, if you watch, he's like, you know,
side to side, yes, Paum.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
I'm on NFL dot com and it explains it. It's
a non traditional motion. Usually when a receiver is going across,
he trots from one side to the other in a
kind of calm fashion. It's a very late motion. It's
done right before for the snap, but not so late
that it's a false start. So Tyreek Hill cuts right
and is going full speed like a sprint towards the sidelines,
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and then the ball is snapped. It feels like it's
illegal motion, but it's technically not.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, you had a money stat for me that you
said would blow my mind.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
We're discussing kickers versus running backs as far as what
they make, and Justin Tucker's gotten paid. Justin Tucker has
a big contract. He'll be done in a couple of years.
Derrick Henry has a decent sized contract and if that
plays out when Harrison. But when Justin Tucker and Derek
Henry's careers are over, they'll both made seventy.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Million dollars, assuming that Justin Tucker is not going to
get a new deal.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Yeah, and so he could be making more, but he
has three years left on his current deal that pays
him about five millionaire. But think about it, Derrick Henry
is the premier running back or one of them, of
our past ten years, and he'll make less probably than
Justin Tucker the kicker.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, but you know, these games come down to one position,
and I got one guy, two guys, three guys that
they can make a difference. And I got Justin Tucker
from sixty yards out. Like that's such a weapon to have,
and you coach differently. Now you're only asking your offense
to get into a certain range there and let him
(40:18):
take over. But I think just kickers being recognized. It
feels like kickers have always been, you know, they could
always be placed differently and sometimes an afterthought, and they
could be replaced.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
They're very replaceable. Felt like, oh that guy Dinny used
to be.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Now all of a sudden, some of these teams you
lock in on a guy Harrison Butker the fact that
he's more valuable than Isaiah Pacheco. Like, when you think
about it, who's going to make more money in their career?
Isaiah Pacheco, wonderful player, seventh round pick with the Chiefs.
But Harrison Butker is going to make more money than him.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
On the other side, you got someone like Derrek Henry
or any running back. They're getting beat up and their
knees destroyed. They only have a couple of years if
they're lucky in the league. And the kickers are so
protected running into roupping the kicker and they just sit
there with their jacket kicking into the net when they're
called upon. The pressure is more. But it seems a
little ridiculous that the prices would be similar for the
two positions.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, but who is going to affect the game more?
That's what you have to do.
Speaker 8 (41:21):
Say, Derrek Henry breaks one for eighty yards for a
touchdown that could end up being.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
The game winner. But what if he doesn't, then you
may lose. Thank you, Tom, Thank you fairpoint.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
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It feels like with some of these other sports. Now
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some events. Canoeing is in there. You also have the discus.
Three on three was yesterday with the United States team
the women's team. They finished with the bronze. Surfing pole
vaulting was awesome yesterday. So we'll recap everything that happened
and preview what's going to happen later on today and tonight.
Team USA is favored by twenty seven against Brazil. This
(01:20):
is the men's team, and I'm a curious the over
unders here point totals checked with DraftKings because much has
been made about Jason Tatum not playing well. I got
over unders for Anthony Edwards, Lebron, James, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry.
They didn't have one available for Jason Tatum. I hope,
(01:41):
I hope the news media can survive if Jason Tatum
doesn't play or doesn't play that much. But over under
right now, Kevin Durant, expected to have a big day
against Brazil, is over under his fifteen and a half.
Although I get that feeling Anthony Edwards. The deeper we
get into this, the more important he's going to become.
(02:02):
And it feels like, and he even said this when
they started, that he felt like he was the go
to guy on this team. But Lebron at fourteen and
a half points, Steph Curry twelve and a half points
and Anthony Edwards thirteen and a half points. I was
watching the women's three on three yesterday and I couldn't
help but chuckle out loud. I was watching with Marvin
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and we've talked about this before, where there are a
lot of people who started watching the WNBA maybe women's basketball,
just because of Caitlin Clark. Therefore, whatever happened to Caitlin Clark,
that's pretty much their introduction to women's basketball. Now, I'm
not speaking for everybody, but I'm speaking for a lot
of people who in the media didn't watch the WNBA.
(02:45):
The physicality in the three on three tournament yesterday with
Team USA rivaled anything with the NBA. Now there's no
fast breaks, it says three on three, it's physical. You're
setting picks, you're getting knocked down going for rebounds, loose ball,
and you know, there was a bronze medal at stake
for Team USA. If you watch that, then you'll realize
(03:07):
the physicality that is in women's basketball, and it's been
there for quite some time. It's just if you only
watch Caitlin Clark at IOWA, nobody was physical with her
unless you know it was deep into the tournament where
they tried to get physical with her. You couldn't put
a body on her, and you didn't have you know,
athletes as many athletes in college basketball facing Caitlin Clark,
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but watching the three on three with other countries Team USA,
it's physical. Yah, it's not you know, we're out there
just kind of slow dance in here. It's physical. You're
getting knocked down. And I loved it because it meant
something to them yesterday the Team USA winning the bronze.
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I guess we can frame this as breaking news or
the potential for breaking news. The forty nine ers are
looking at the Browns and Patriots as a destination for
Brandon Ayuk. Now this was reported Bay Area Sports, NBC
bay Area and came out overnight, and now you have
the Niners. Brandon Nyuk is still there with the Niners
(04:13):
in camp. He has a chance to double his salary.
He can also reject if he doesn't want to go
to the Patriots or the Browns, or the Steelers or
the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He can do that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's twenty six. This is his big chance to get
a big contract here. Now you're looking at the Browns
and the Patriots. Patriots According to DraftKings are expected to
have the worst offense in football this year. Steelers also
one of the worst offenses in football. The Browns are
still an enigma because, well, you have Deshaun Watson, you
have that ownership group. They just paid Amari Cooper and
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according to the report, Amari Cooper would probably go to
San Francisco and you'd basically be swapping receivers. One who's
thirty one who's twenty six. But Brandon Nyuk is a
better receiver, more dangerous receiver because he can beat you downfield.
Amari Cooper's already gotten paid. Brandon Nyuk wants to get
trade once to get paid. But we did think about this.
(05:09):
If you're Brandon Nayuk, how important is the winning part
of this? Or you just want to get paid. Now
I understand if you're twenty six, you haven't been paid.
You want to get paid. You can worry about a
super Bowl. He's already been to a super Bowl. You
want to get paid first. This might be your only
chance at a big contract. But he can say if
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he doesn't want to go to the Patriots, and why
would you because your numbers are going to suffer. They
don't even know who they're I mean is Drake May's
not going to be your starting quarterback. But then you're
going to have a situation where if he goes to Cleveland, Okay,
got a chance, good offense, maybe Deshaun Watson kind of
revisits what he used to be as a quarterback. There,
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got a good defense. They made something out of nothing
last year when Deshaun was not available, got injured. But
that's the news right now that Brandon Ayuk and this
feels like this is something that could happen by the
end of the week because this is dragged on. You've
got to get to the point where you get him
in cam But it is a real report that there
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is a framework in place of what it's going to
take now. Only I think the only compensation we've heard
is the Browns would include Amari Cooper their wide receiver.
A Marii Cooper I think had twelve hundred yards last
year with different quarterbacks. That's pretty remarkable season considering everything
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that happened with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You lose your running back.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Amari Cooper was really good and helped keep afloat that
team and give them a legitimate go to guy when
Joe Flacco was in there. But that's what we know
right now that the framework is in place for Ayuk
to be traded. But if you're Ayuk and you know what,
San Francisco, I'm going to look at it this way.
(06:57):
The report came out of the Bay Area, If it
came out of New England or came out of Cleveland,
then it's different from me. This feels like the Niners
are passing on some information to let everybody know you're
open for business, and also, here's your chance last call
for Brandon Nyuk instead of this is coming from the
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Steelers camp or the Patriots camp, the Browns camp that
somebody there broke this. No, this is San Francisco saying
we're moving on from Brandon n Ayuk because you can't afford him,
because you're gonna have to pray play paid rock perty
and you're not gonna be able to do that. But
you're paying Bosa Deebo, Christian McCaffrey, Kittle compensated. Trent Williams
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still has to be paid. But you know, this is
a situation sort of like Kansas City Chiefs with Tyreek Hill.
At some point you have to say it does not
make financial sense to keep him as great as he is,
and they benefited. I think Mahomes became a or showed
again that how great he is as a quarterback, became
an even better quarterback without Tyreek Hill because he spread
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the offense instead of I'm going to just focus on
Tyreek Hill. Now, Tyreek Hill is a wonderful weapon to have,
but it felt like Mahomes was able to be a
quarterback again and truly spread the wealth there. With brock Purty,
I think he needs all the help he can get,
and he certainly would want that going into this next contract,
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brock Purty makes less than a million dollars a year,
He's going to get over fifty million dollars. There's always
going to be casualties here, financial casualties here. I also
wondered about this. Let's say Brandon Nayuk gets upwards of
thirty million dollars a year, Well, you know who's on
the clock, Ceedee Lamb and the Cowboys. As the price
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continues to go up. This could have been solved a
long time ago, unless they don't want to solve it.
Same thing with Dak Prescott. Unless they don't want to
solve it. But the prices keep going up here, and
I'm sure Cede Lambs Camp's going waye or Jamar Chase
same thing. Wait a minute, what's he getting? And this
(09:15):
all started with Justin Jefferson, But Brandon Aiyuk is going
to probably double his salary at least with whoever you
know takes him if he wants to go, because once again,
he doesn't have a no trade claw. I think it's complicated.
I don't know enough about it other than he can
reject wherever the Niners you know, are trying to trade
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him to. If there's a deal and he goes, I
don't want to go to the Patriots, then he doesn't
have to go to the Patriots. But at some point,
what do the Niners do if he decides to stay,
He plays and then he plays out. You know this
last year?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
All right?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
E eight seven to seven three DP show email address
Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Jim Harbaugh
met with the media. We'll have that for you coming up.
He denied has any involvement in the cheating scandal there.
The Chiefs have locked up Harrison, Butker we'll talk about
that and the price tag for Placekickers.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You know, Justin Tucker is the guy we always think
of and he's well compensated and should be. But Harrison
Butker is right there with what Justin Tucker is getting
with the Kansas City Chiefs. Simone Biles wrapped up her
Paris vacation, and Noah Lyles cruises in the two hundred
meters semi finals there and really entertaining pole vaulting.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That was a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Paulie's like NBC right now, pole vault You know that
it's always very cryptic when Paulie will say peacock two
minutes ago, snug, hurry, yes, and we'll be like, I'm okay,
all right, flipping over there, good TV.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It's funny because if you do hurry, you're like, okay,
let me go see you discus, Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
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do you have for me, Seaton. If you are Brandon Ayuk,
where are you playing?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Where do you want to play? Browns? They might be
the best team of the bunch of new teams.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah right, well I have to start my looking at
the quarterback. New England doesn't know who they're going to
be starting. Well, they're not going to start Drake May.
But I don't even know if he's going to start
this year. Everything that I've read is he is. He
is well behind.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's tough too, is that Drake May is in camp
trying to get used to things, and he's got Joe
Milton stand next to him, who has got an absolute
cannon for an arm. The dude is like seven feet tall,
and you're like, why is that guy not playing more?
He's not exactly so he's not exactly seven feet on, nor
does he literally have Canada for his arm. However, both
of those things you could convince me are true, and
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you're like, I got to stand next to this guy
and try.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
To figure this out.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Dang, he's because he's an impressive quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, but it isn't. Jacoby Brissette still in New England.
He is, Yes, for like the eighty seventh year, not
the eighty seventh year he was back. Yeah, well he's
going to be your starter. Jacoby Brissett is going to
be your starter, and then they're going to have to
decide at some point, like I don't know what the
stability is. Got a new head coach there, they don't
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have many offensive weapons. Do I want to go to
New England? I guess if they're paying me, do I
want to go to Pittsburgh? See, I thought the Commanders
was going to be the place that he would end up,
which would have been great for Jaden Daniels. But Cleveland,
the fact that they squeezed down eleven wins last year
(12:53):
was amazing given what happened with losing Chubb, losing Watson,
and they hung in there, and then you're going to
go in and you're going to replace samri Cooper. I
guess that's probably the best scenario here.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I don't know if there's an outlier where somebody goes
We're not gonna say anything yet, because once again, this
is the story's emanating from the Bay Area, from the Niners,
and therefore no other local markets or reporters are talking
about their specific team, And I think that's really the
interesting part of this. If it came from the Patriots,
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you know, then I'd be a little more curious of
how that information got out, as opposed to this is
the Niners letting everybody know they're ready to move on
from Brandon Nyuk.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All right, so poll question seeking anything else?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, Well we could keep running through some of those
teams if you want. He could always stay with the Niners,
Brandon Nyuk could it's possible for less money? For less money, yeah,
significantly less money, right.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But a chance to play in big games, great offense.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Still be what fourth and line for the ball, fifth
in the line for the ball?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Make less money? Yeah, but you're not. You're not gonna
be double covered. You're always you know, gonna have single
coverage here. No, but everybody knows the ball's not going to.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Just kidding, he's he's a really good What about the Steelers?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I thought that, but I don't know if they're willing
to pony up money that kind of money.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
You could certainly use it with those quarterbacks. That doesn't
seem like.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
A bad place to play. Yeah, Pittsburgh, that organization, but
the offense isn't supposed to be good this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Again, I mean I like pickings, but I need a
little bit more. You got a good tight end, so
that to me seems like a good place. I just
don't know if everybody's willing to pay twenty five to
thirty million dollars, and that's what it's probably gonna cost
Brandon to get Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Have a certain amount of desperation there, Yeah, to get
them dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Huh yes, yes, yeah, all. Let me take a break.
We'll settle on a poll question. We'll talk to Mike McDaniel,
the Dolphins head coach. He'll join us. Coming up, there
was something that came up, a new sentence put in
the rule book regarding cheat motion and it has a
lot to do with the Miami Dolphins offense. We'll talk
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the head coach of the Miami Dolphins and of course
a star receiver with Yale. Although I am looking at
the stats and I can't find any stats from you.
When you're a wide receiver at Yale. I got a
(16:48):
great picture here, Mike. I mean you're jacked here.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah, well you didn't. You didn't look up the blocking statistics.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Hmmm, now, special teams tackles, maybe.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Friendships made that.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm gonna have to take your word on that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, if you were looking at the player comp like
wide receiver who best resembles your wide receiving skills when
you were at Yale, Somebody in the NFL who plays
the way you played?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well, Uh, it's interesting you asked that. No one's ever
asked me that and then, and I know exactly the answer.
The the antithesis of every receiver that is in a
receiving core of mind. So like I utilized all of
the known Like I I was a I would body
(17:44):
catch and and get no yak and a lot of
the things that I was incapable of doing. You know
that that drove my my scouting. Uh uh as the
as I became a professional coach. So quite literally, Uh,
(18:05):
if they're on our team, they don't share commonalities with
how I play, because that's I knew what I didn't want,
which was great.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Who was your idol growing up?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well? Uh, I thought it was fortuitous that that my
mom named me Michael because Michael Jordan was the end all,
be all and and will continue to be. If I
ever meet him, I'll probably uh need a trust fall catcher.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Wait in Miami, Mike's and Mike's in Florida. You haven't
met Jordan.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I'm not that big a deal. Quite honestly, most most
people you know in public approached me with I T questions.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You ever have to show your ID to get in
the building, any building?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know? So in my mind, I do, I think
you know? I I don't really really do. I don't
really put thought or give justice to uh, like, you know,
being a head coach. How much I'm on TV and
then like Hard Knocks, there's uh so people do recognize me.
(19:29):
I'm just always surprised by it continually.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Uh if you weren't coaching, what would you be doing?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Well? I knew from a very young age that I
needed to be passionate about something I dabbled for. I
wanted to be a coach my entire really childhood, with
exception to I think it was sixth grade. I had
about eight months where I was like, I'm gonna be
(19:59):
an archae that architect. You know, I think, I I
it would have to be something that I was passionate about,
and so I was always going to go into football.
I made sure that I wasn't just single minded, uh,
you know, and I was fortunate enough to go to
(20:22):
Yale University and I tried a summer internship in in business,
and then ultimately it came down I wanted to be
really good at something, and in business I couldn't. I'm
I'm too empathetic, so like I could see myself like, nah,
(20:42):
you know, I don't need that much percentage. And that's
I think there's a threshold on how good you can
be in business, So I don't. I really don't know.
Maybe a hand.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Model, Okay, let me see the hands. Yeah, obviously didn't
get in a lot of use at Yale. So yeah,
they're they're looking pretty hot there.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I mean that that that that was hurtful. No, they
they did. I was, I was really I took I
took a lot of reps, you know, I just uh,
I was a selfless player and made sure that I
did all the non point of attack routes in games.
Not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He's the Yale legend who led the team in Friendships.
Mike McDaniel joining us on the program, I'd explain this
cheat motion and what happened yesterday and why are we
calling it cheat motion?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Well, I think that's a phrase Quinn by uh my
longtime work associate Kyle Shannan. We have we have another
phrase for it, but that's for another time. But you know,
I think the one thing I've always enjoyed with football
(22:03):
is is, like, you know, along the process when I
was the grunt worker on the staff and trying to
find value with it within a football team. Uh, it
always made sense to me that that you're your problem
solving issues and that leads to advent or uh. You know,
(22:25):
so being alongside you know, the Shanahans for my entire
career and being you know in different opportunities whereas a
coach of a position within the offense and you know,
just problem solve or problem solutions or solutions to problems.
(22:48):
So like with fast guys, Uh, you know, one of
the one of the tools defenses uses re route. So
you know, I think last offseason watching motion out of
the backfield and you know, I think it was actually
(23:09):
this week last year where we were in a joint practice,
and we tried it out for the first time to
problem solve some of the reroute things we're anticipating.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And this is Tyreek Hill. This is the Tyreek Hill rule.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Well, you know, actually the first person to do it
was alec Ingold. Yeah, so we did it with alec
Ingold and then and then it was like, wow, that
was cool. I bet Tyreek could do that really fast.
You know, That's kind of how it went. But you know,
(23:47):
I think when we first got here in two thousand
and twenty two, you know, Tyreek, we did you know,
timing motions where you know, it was from the other side,
the other side of the ball, but you'd go across
the formation and we would start doing the some of
the routes, the deep fifteen to twenty yard routes that
(24:10):
we've been doing systematically since I got into the NFL
in two thousand and five. So you know that that
was new. Then when you have certain types of football
players that are willing to try new things and fail
at it first and not get down, and you know,
(24:30):
you're able to kind of press the envelope and solve
some problems through a little creativity.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm looking at the resume. So Broncos, Texans, California, Redwood, Sacramento,
Mountain Lions, Redskins, Redskins, Browns, Falcons, Niners, Niners, Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's quite a resume.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, I'm the oldest young guy, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You're working with all of these guys. So you had
Sean McVay, you had and you had Matt Lafleur. Which
person did you learn the most from from those three?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Absolutely Kyle Shanahan. He he was like he set the
table for all of us. He hired all of us
in in Washington by way of his his father, and
he he kind of trained us in the way that
he was. He was trained and and was very uh
(25:28):
you know, it was cool. Like at the time, Uh,
some some of his buddies at the Washington Post didn't
think it was that cool that they called us the
fun bunch, but it was, you know, that kind of
set a foundation. And during during that time, you know,
in twenty twelve, we drafted Robert Griffin third and we
(25:51):
had never done zone reads. So we we were all together,
you know, challenging the threshold of our own knowledge. We
didn't like outsource any experts. We kind of had to
problem solve and uh, you know with with with Kyle
and then his father, you know, being the ultimate bosses.
So you know, I think it was our formative foundation
(26:15):
that I think you can see still today of how
we kind of go about our business.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is it possible that Tyreek Hill can be overpaid?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean see, fortunately, fortunately, my my job specifically is
to maximize players' skills, which ultimately maximizes their market value.
And then I just dust my hands off and leave
(26:49):
it to Chris career the GM.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Okay, could he be underpaid?
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I think yeah, not anymore.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
You know. I mean I don't really have a good
answer for any one of those, so I could pretend
to answer it or just outwardly say I'm gonna dodge
whatever you're saying. I'm so done with talking about money.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, like totally cow.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
What are the expectation levels like for this team this year?
I mean, everybody wants to win to Super Bowl? But
can you have tiers of expectations thereof we want to
get here, we want to get here, we hope to
get here.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah? No, I think you you know, first, you know,
I set set goals early, and and you know, as
we get together as a team on this year it
was April fifteenth, taxa. And you know the first one
is to establish and maintain a daily standard. You know,
(27:52):
I think one thing that we try to do here
that that has gained momentum every year here and uh,
guys really taken to is is that you have you
have to. It's about doing the things that day. It's
about being present and and really attacking that day and
(28:14):
then stacking that and that anything worthwhile is you're you're
you're honing your skills. And you know, I mean you
can go down the line of anyone that was ever
great and talk about deliberate practice and et cetera, et cetera.
So it's doing that then you know, then you win
the division to get a home playoff game, you win
(28:35):
the conference, and you win the super Bowl. One thing
that that I think of expressed that I think the
players understand is like a lot of times people put
ceilings on their ultimate results or whatever simply by being
(28:56):
afraid to be bold. You know, we we we know
that everyone says that can you go about your daily
daily life to be all in with that type of
mindset to do something like that, and in that process
you get the most out of yourself, and if it's
(29:18):
short of what your goals were, be strong enough to
learn from that and press forward. But don't out of fear, hesitation,
or you know, play it safe by not being all in.
So you know, I think all is on the table
for our expectations inside the building. But what's what what
(29:40):
I'm comfortable with that is because people's entire focus is like,
all right, well you're producing today if you even want
to sniff those.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, provide action with those words today, final thirty second shift.
The current NFL coaches ran the forty yard dash? Where
would you end up?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
So, if you could, if you could bracket the people
in my in my age group, right, and you know,
pending there's an off season surgery. I know, Matt Lafleur
like tears, you know, Pops's achilles or tears as pack
every year or something, I'd probably in the age bracket.
(30:27):
I'd probably finished last of that of the younger guys.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Real.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
But yeah, I mean I when I say that I'm
an extreme person, like I work and then I'm a
dad and I literally so I do. I don't. I'm
saving working out till when everyone's saying to me, you
should work out, and I think I'm getting pretty close,
but I haven't got there yet.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But you can take Andy Reid.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Yeah, yes, and and like now don't I mean I am,
I'm youthful, an exert exuberant, so you know I will
I will be able to hold my own but specifically
with people that are older than me.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, you're sneaky athletic is what you are.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yes, very very sneak, very very sneaky, sneaky.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Great to finally have you on. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Okay, Well, in the words that I gave our owner
Steve Ross in my initial interview interview, like what took
you so long?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
No, we reached out.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I mean what for two years? We reached down three
favorite show with Sports Center mikey three in my favorite
show of Sports Center.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean we were told maybe in the off season
he'll talk to you.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Well, you need to get down to the bottom of
uh I have an email correspondence. Oh okay, you know what.
I need to walk that back. It's burning holes through
my face right.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Now, just saying you were always invited. Okay, well I
go to Yale games. Yeah, yes, you're the you're the guy. Yes,
that's so cool.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Quite honestly, it's it's very odd, but like I've known
you so much longer than you you've known me, ridiculous,
that is true. Yeah, you were like providing not enough
Bronco highlights for me for years.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I was I was the Tom Brady of Sports Center.
I got to do whatever I wanted to do, so
I chose not to do Bronco highlights because nobody cared
about them.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, that's a that's like a little soft flex there,
because I mean, if you get to be the Tom
Brady of something, you know, But I've always admired your
I'll say, I'll say it illustrious career.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Okay, and it is the pleasure of the year. Thank you,
open invite. Don't be a stranger.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yeah I won't, because where there's a stranger, there's danger.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Good luck. All right, don't you very much. We're all
counting on you, all.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Right, I'll I'll you need me. I'll be sweating here
in about ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Okay, thank you, coach.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
That is Mike McDaniel, former hand model and lead Yale
and Friendships.
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(35:02):
nineteen sixty one Philadelphia Phillies. They lost twenty three in
a row. All right, Mike McDaniel a lot of fun
And we did reach out to him in the last
two years and we were told, you know what, he'd
like to talk to Dan in the off season, and
I'm like, okay, And then we called again because I said,
(35:24):
it's not exactly the off season, but it's not actually
the season. So see if Mike McDaniel wants to come on.
Because I've seen other interviews. I know he's quirky, interesting, different, fun,
and I think he proved all of the above.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
He was excited to come on. Yes, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
I've been always wondering when I watched his ascendants because
he went from kind of a nobody four years ago
to doing a couple of press conferences to being the
Dolphins head coach. And I was like, does this guy
know more about football? What does he have? And after
that interview, I realized what he has. He's both engaging
and completely engage when he's talking to you. He was
talking to the guys and back before the interview is
(36:05):
getting set up, he was completely engaged. In talking to them.
He also feels like he's thinking on a little bit
different of a level. I don't know, it's a in
His tone is the opposite of most football coaches. He
feels like he's completely on your side and.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
With you well.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
As he said, he didn't want to talk money, tired
of talk money, doesn't care. That's you know up to
the GM that he's one of those guys who goes
into the lab and comes out with something and probably
takes great pride in Hey, Tyreek, cam here, I got
something for you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Hey to it, come here, got something point, Hey, we're
going to try this. You know what I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And it does sound like he is speaking to the
players in their language. There and a lot of fun,
but you know, it comes down to you can be fun, interesting, quirky,
You can win some games. Got to win playoff games,
win your division, get a home playoff game, maybe get
to the conference champapionship, because that's how you're measured. And
(37:03):
the fact that you had Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur, Mike McDaniel,
Kyle Shanahan on one staff that's crazy offensive minds. I
don't even know what that must have sounded like when
they got together speaking their own language, and then all
of a sudden they're like, yeah, and then we do
the cheat motion, and then you know, it's basically sort
(37:25):
of the CFL. You know, they're talking about the cheat
motion and it's Tyreek Hill really is what it is
that you're trying to get your guy in motion so
he can get a little bit more of an advantage
on the defense. As if Tyreek Hill needs any more
of that, but this is something that they talked about
yesterday with the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
All right, we'll get to poll question Setan.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I've read, by the way, the cheat motion description.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Do you understand it? No?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Nope, No, I think I'm usually more of a better
visual learner than just reading something.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I don't think you have to stop.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think that's what the cheat motion is is your
guy can be in motion. He can be moving instead
of motion to stop. Now you have motion. You know,
the CFL does this all the time when they run
up to the line of scrimmage and then they got
a head start.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Any eligible backfield player who changes his stance does not
have to come to a complete stop prior to the snap,
as long as his actions are not abrupt, false start
or forward, which is illegal motion.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, So it feels like this is a we're gonna
let you be in motion. We're going to give you
an advantage.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
What you can run side to side, you just can't
run forward.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, So Tyreek Hill, if you watch, he's like, you know,
side to side, yes, Paum.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
I'm on NFL dot com and it explains it. It's
a non traditional motion. Usually when a receiver is going across,
he trots from one side to the other in a
kind of calm fashion. It's a very late motion. It's
done right before for the snap, but not so late
that it's a false start. So Tyreek Hill cuts right
and is going full speed like a sprint towards the sidelines,
(39:09):
and then the ball is snapped. It feels like it's
illegal motion, but it's technically not.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, you had a money stat for me that you
said would blow my mind.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
We're discussing kickers versus running backs as far as what
they make, and Justin Tucker's gotten paid. Justin Tucker has
a big contract. He'll be done in a couple of years.
Derrick Henry has a decent sized contract and if that
plays out when Harrison. But when Justin Tucker and Derek
Henry's careers are over, they'll both made seventy.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Million dollars, assuming that Justin Tucker is not going to
get a new deal.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Yeah, and so he could be making more, but he
has three years left on his current deal that pays
him about five millionaire. But think about it, Derrick Henry
is the premier running back or one of them, of
our past ten years, and he'll make less probably than
Justin Tucker the kicker.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, but you know, these games come down to one position,
and I got one guy, two guys, three guys that
they can make a difference. And I got Justin Tucker
from sixty yards out. Like that's such a weapon to have,
and you coach differently. Now you're only asking your offense
to get into a certain range there and let him
(40:18):
take over. But I think just kickers being recognized. It
feels like kickers have always been, you know, they could
always be placed differently and sometimes an afterthought, and they
could be replaced.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
They're very replaceable. Felt like, oh that guy Dinny used
to be.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Now all of a sudden, some of these teams you
lock in on a guy Harrison Butker the fact that
he's more valuable than Isaiah Pacheco. Like, when you think
about it, who's going to make more money in their career?
Isaiah Pacheco, wonderful player, seventh round pick with the Chiefs.
But Harrison Butker is going to make more money than him.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
On the other side, you got someone like Derrek Henry
or any running back. They're getting beat up and their
knees destroyed. They only have a couple of years if
they're lucky in the league. And the kickers are so
protected running into roupping the kicker and they just sit
there with their jacket kicking into the net when they're
called upon. The pressure is more. But it seems a
little ridiculous that the prices would be similar for the
two positions.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, but who is going to affect the game more?
That's what you have to do.
Speaker 8 (41:21):
Say, Derrek Henry breaks one for eighty yards for a
touchdown that could end up being.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
The game winner. But what if he doesn't, then you
may lose. Thank you, Tom, Thank you fairpoint.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
You can't get that analysis anyplace else, only here. Jared
Payton will join us on loan from Chicago that'll be
coming up next hour,
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