August 6, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan wants to know how it’s possible that Jim Harbaugh knew nothing about what his coordinators were allegedly doing at Michigan. And Jarrett Payton, son of the late, great Bears RB Walter Payton, stops by to talk some Bears football and Caleb Williams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio hour two on this Tuesday, Come on in
stay a while. Niners could be on the verge of
trading Brandon n Ayuk. The question is to where right now?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The leaders in the clubhouse appear to be the Patriots,
Patriots and the Cleveland Browns. Now, we do know that
the Cleveland Browns would appear to be offering Amari Cooper
in return. I don't know what else is involved in
this right now, but Bay Area NBC Bay Area Sports
is the first to report this that Brandon Nyuk is available,
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but he can turn down any trade if he doesn't
want to go to New England. He doesn't have to.
He's twenty six years of age. He's going to double
his money here and a chance to get paid and leave.
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go with an hour two seegn o' connor.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, right now, we got up there off of the
rumored Brandon Ayuk trade. If you were Brandon Ayuk. Where
would you want to play Brown's Commander's Patriots Steelers? Right now,
the Steelers have forty four percent of the vote, followed
by about twenty six percent with the Browns Patriots in
last place.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
There. Yes, yes, not going to be a good year,
certainly offensively with that team. And by all accounts, Drake
May is not ready to play in the NFL, which
that used to be the norm. But you know, in
today's college football, you know formations and philosophies, offensive minded
head coaches, Your quarterbacks are usually ready to play at
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some point during their first year. But with Drake May,
I don't know if JJ McCarthy is ready to play.
That's the way it used to be, but that's not
the case anymore. It almost feels like, wait, you're not
ready to play your first year as a first round
draft pick. That's almost like when you get to your
sophomore year in college in basketball. Wait, you're not going
to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think I'm going to work on my mid RG
jumper and stay around. Yes, Martin, did C J. Stroud
ruin this for everyone? Yeah? But if you go back
to Cam Newton's rookie year, Cam ruined it for a
lot of rookie quarterbacks. Cam was unbelievable. People forget how
that was just different. And when you're with Cam Newton
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and you see somebody that big, who's that athletic, You're like,
I mean, that's the quarterback. And if you said he was,
if you put him up next to Miles Garrett or
any of these guys, where you go, that's that's just
not right. That's different. But he was different.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
C J.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Stroud just proved he was a great quarterback. And I
think a lot of times what happens with Ohio State
quarterbacks or Alabama quarterbacks, it used to be where'd go?
I don't know. Did the receivers make him great? And
we saw this.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
With c J.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Stroud because I always say, give me a game, that's
a big game, and how did you do in that
big game? And same with justin fields And look, I'm
I'm in on. I'd buy that stock. I know a
lot of people wouldn't, but I think with good coaching,
consistent coaching, justin fields can be dynamic. And this is
where and I was told this by somebody who covers
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the Steelers yesterday, you know they're going to go with
Russell Wilson to start, because it's easier to go with
Russ and then go to Justin Fields instead of the
other way. Now that depends on Russell Wilson's health as well,
because he's been banged up in training camp. But they're
going to do their best. It's Russ's job, and then
Justin Fields will be there. He'll come in from the
bullpen and it might be he comes in and then
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he stays in, or maybe it's just one of those,
Hey we need a little boost on offense. Go in
there and try to give us a little bit of
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be able to sign up. Jim Harbaugh. He got in
front of the media yesterday and of course he was
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asked about the Michigan situation that he left and now
Michigan under investigation by the NCAA for the cheating scandal.
Here is the Chargers head coach, Jim Harball.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with
that lesson. I've raised my family on that lesson. I
have preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached.
No one's perfect. If you stumble, you apologize, and you
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make it right. I do not apologize. I did not participate,
was not aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So
for me, it's back to work and attacking with an
enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, all right, he put it out there. He didn't stumble,
didn't cheat, didn't know anything about it, wasn't complicit in
any of this. He certainly wasn't vague there, and I
respect that. I mean, that's what we want. We want
somebody's going to say I was not involved. Now, the
first question you're going to have, or at least I
think you will, is the same one I did. You
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had no idea what your coordinators were doing. You had
no idea that somebody was getting this information, no idea
that somebody was going on the road representing your university,
not officially, you know, in a surreptitious way, but you
had no idea about that. So when somebody comes back
with all this information and gives it to your defensive coordinator,
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you never wonder where you got the information. That's the
first thing I thought of, And then the second thought was,
how do you not know something of that magnitude. There's
a lot of things that go on, and I've said,
it's hard to look at a coach and go, wait,
you didn't know that was going on. And I understand
part of the reason why you might know is they
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don't want you to know. But in a situation like that,
where somebody's on the road in disguise, getting information and
giving that information, does that coach who gets that information?
Because it feels like those coaches are under fire here,
the coaches who are still there at Michigan are under fire.
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Jim didn't know anything about that. That's what's surprising about it,
because it feels like Jim Harbaugh is omnipresent and he
knows everything that's going on there or that he should. Now,
that's a lot of people to keep an eye on,
keep track of. But if you're getting information where somebody's
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going on the road to cheat and it's working, somebody
is going to want to know something about Hey, you
know what they do this? I noticed this? Yeah, where'd
you see that? Which is what I would ask coach,
been doing my homework here. You know, I got some
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sources working on you know, don't worry. I get I
get one point. I have to know, well, where are
you getting this information? How are you getting this information?
It's it's his staff, it's his coaching staff, and they're
the ones that are being named in this NCAA investigation.
But Jim came out and said it, and uh, you know,
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truly believes it. So we'll take him at facebage. Now,
keep in mind, as I said before, when Jim was Adam,
he was going to fight this, and then all of
a sudden, when they were going to get to court,
what happened? It all dissipated. Why So there's still questions there.
Do I think they cheated? Yes? How much did it
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help them? I don't know, but it is there and
it's going to continue to be there during this investigation. Now,
maybe there's no postseason ban, but that's what the NC DOUBLEA,
from what I'm told, is going to go for. They're
going to go for maybe or one or two year
postseason ban for Michigan. Now when is that no idea?
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Once again, I've had great sources with the Big Ten.
The Big Ten is not involved in this. It's the
NC DOUBLEA. So that's why I haven't gotten the information
that I was hoping to get. But those on the
inside know that I'm at least asking those questions if
they can help me out move this forward. Yeah, Pong,
whether you believe or not.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
What did you guys think of Harbaugh's strategy yesterday in
dealing with this?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, what else is his strategy going to be? I mean,
he's going to come out and he's going to attack.
He's not there at Michigan anymore. He's he's with the Chargers. Hey,
I don't know anything about this, and I'm going to
guess that those coaches are probably going to protect him
and not say anything about this. But he didn't say
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that somebody didn't do it. He didn't know anything about.
Now maybe it's semantics there. But do I think Jim
feels like something happened? Yeah, did Jim know? I'm guessing
that he didn't, taking his word, but I mean I
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would be surprised. I would be if he did not
know what was going on, because once again, if you're
going to go to that degree, there has to be
the reward with the risk that goes along with that.
And that's what I don't understand. You know, It's like spygate.
Did they need to do that against the Jets? No
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they didn't, but they did the fleet gate. Did they
really need to go that far? No, they didn't. But
then you do, and then all of a sudden you
double down, and then that's when people go, Okay, now
we're coming after you. I don't know if that's going
to be the case here, but do I think there's
other schools in the Big ten that would certainly like
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to see Michigan investigated. Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The Olympic headlines there simoone Biles wraps up Paris. You
had no Alliles, he'll be competing in the gold in
the two hundred meters. It was a fun day yesterday.
And the fact that you can watch it live is
what makes it great. So you had armand duplantis he
is the armund Armando. He won the pole vault, so
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his nickname is Mondo. So he won his second consecutive
Olympic gold medal, set the world record the distance between
his gold medal in first and then second place with
Sam Kendrick's of Team USA who got the silver. So
between first and second that differential was larger than the
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differential between second place and eleventh place. So this is
a guy that everybody expected to win. The question is
would he win by a lot? How much would he
win by? We also won gold in women's surfing Carolyn Marx,
and then we were watching discus the Team USA's Valerie Allman.
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She won again and second consecutive. It's always interesting when
you see the shot put or the discus and you go,
at one point, did they go, how about we spin
a couple of times, because I'm going to guess the
first person to throw the shot put probably just stood
there and went. Or if you're going to do the discus,
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you just go like one spin, two spin. She's an athlete,
and she did a couple of spins and she blew
everybody away. But who came up with the you know what,
I'm gonna put the shot put under under my chin
and then I'm gonna spin and then I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I do love the idea that these things started with
somebody sitting around board being like, how far do you
think I could throw this? That to me seems like
the origin of all of them. And then at some
point somebody right was like, nah, dude, you don't overhand
throw it. If I pick it up and spin with it,
I could probably throw it further. But it's a little wobblie.
What if I used my chin to hold it and
spun and then how far do you think I could
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throw it?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Then? But who came up with the shot put? To
begin with? Some like you have to make a shot
erry bored Grecian? No, No, it wasn't somebody an ancient
Greece just walking along going I don't know, I'm gonna
you think I could throw this? I'm gonna pick up
this cannon ball. Maybe that's where it started with cannonballs.
How much is a cannon ball way compared to let's
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say shot put sixteen pounds? Checking, yes, damn it, just
throw it over. We need to shoot this thing, and
then the discus did somebody like, how do you come
up with that? Where you go, you know what, I
got this thing and then you hold it and then
you spin and then you throw it and it's kind
of like a saucer.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hey had Dionysus throw that thing over here?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Dionysus I had the shot put starting in Scotland in
eighteen sixty six, the first recorded putting of the shot competition.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
They called it okay, but somebody had to make this
thing where they go, hey, hey, Angus, throw that thing
over here. Hey, Seamus, come over here, stir quick. I
can't it's sixteen pounds. Put it under your chin and
throw it. And then somebody's on the other end, probably
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trying to catch it, and they're like, no, no, don't
catch it. No, trying to track down you know, the javelin. No, no, no, no,
just let it fall, let it fall. Dang you see
the hole That means in the ground. You really hucked
that thing, hey bee, as you know, Yeah, Paul I
got the discus.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
As being og Olympic Games. Way back in the day
in Greece, it was like the plates that they used
at tables. People would throw them and hence became the discus.
It went away for years, and then in the eighteen
seventies in Germany a gymnastics teacher started bringing back the discus,
and then it became Olympic gif it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Somebody had to make the discus. Somebody had to go,
you know what, we used to throw plates.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I have Christian George kohl Rosch of Germany who created
the discus.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, but once again is somebody creating some kind of
thing to hold throw whatever? Now? Like what is new
now that would compare to the discus or the shot
put even the javelin? Who went you know what, Tommy,
why don't you take this poll and then just throw
it as far as you can? There certain events where
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you go who came up with this? And why?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
My wife's mad. I keep throwing the dishes and breaking
the dishes. So I created the discus. Why didn't they
call it the dish because they broke break condish? Stay
with are you kidding me? There's no response on the
other side the discus? Thanks ton, Yeah, poem.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
I have the javelin going back to seven o eight BC,
which is a great time for throwing. I heard as
part of the pentathlon and used to hold the javelin
and with like a little wrap around it on your
hand and it would slide out. The javelin was thrown
for distance and there was a target at the other
end for the second part of the competition.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But who decided this that's the thing where you go,
you know what, I got this event? How about we
do this like hurling. You guys understand hurling in college?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I did. You know.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
What's my favorite though, is that some of these events,
when it's over, the competitor has a chance to keep going.
Like if you're in the shot put and you've already one,
you can get one more turn. Mono de Plantis he
had already won the pole vault, and this competitor said
go for the Olympic record. He's like, all right, crank
it up.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah. It was a pretty good moment there. I mean
it took a long time, but it was a good
moment there where he's going for the Olympic record. It
was fun, fun yesterday. All right, we'll talk to Jared Payton,
Bolder's son and get his thoughts on the Bears situation.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Here.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Caleb Williams expectation level and Steve McMichael, the former Bear,
going into the Hall of Fame over the weekend. All right,
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later today against Brazil. Is that right? They're big favorites.
I think twenty seven point favorites there in that game
and the over under. Let's see Kevin Durant fifteen and
a half, Lebron James fourteen and a half, Anthony Edwards
thirteen and a half, and twelve and a half four
mister throwback, Steph Curry. Nothing on Jason Tatum because I
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was curious because I don't know how much playing time.
There was no over under for Jason Tatum. Today he's
off the board, which is pretty crazy because god forbid,
it's a close game and Jason Tatum doesn't play. Did
anybody get upset when they benched Joel embiid?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
They were happy?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yes, now, but you know, here's an MVP. Jason Tatum's
on an MVP. Joel emb got binged. Did anybody get
upset about that he didn't get any playing time? What's
Steve Kurr doing? He is a radio host, businessman, he's
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a motivational speaker. He's Jarret Payton, former NFL and CFL
running back played at the u and a co host
of WGN radio's The Beat program, son of the Hall
of Famer Walter Payton. Good to see you again, Bud.
How you doing.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
What's going on, sir? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
How's morale in Chicago? If I said, Bears fans you
should feel this way, how do you think they would feel?
Speaker 9 (19:12):
I think super excited about what's to come.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I think maybe.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Don't use the word super Let's just say excited because
super sounds like super Bowl excited here.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Well, I mean if you talk to some fans though, Dan,
that's they're just hoping for something that is going to.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I don't know, just out of the box a little bit.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
I think that we're excited because offensively, Dan, we were
in a place right now where we haven't never been
before with a quarterback that has the potential to to
have those special abilities that are similar to me. I'm
just saying this to me of Patrick mahomes ask of
watching some of the clips and watching some of the practices, right,
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he's got that feel. And then offensively, you have weapons
on the outside as well that you can throw to.
And DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and DeAndre Swift in
the backfield, so there's a lot of optimism for what
the future could look like. My issue is I feel
like we've been here before, and I think that's the
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hardest part for Bears fans is that we've had the
quarterback before that we think is the guy and we
get over our skis and I think we got to
taper it back a little bit and understand that Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is still a rook that's no fun, Jered, I know fun.
They won't go with that.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But we have to change it up, Dan, We have to.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
We have to here in Chicago taper back expectations just
a little bit. We can be excited, but let's let
this young man grow and can we? And I think
what Ryan Poles has done is he's built a roster.
He's changed this roster around. These are his guys now,
and we're at a place where I feel like we
actually have some stability and some foundation to build on.
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Probably my biggest issue and biggest concern is the offensive line.
Can they find a way to be able to stay
healthy there to give Caleb Williams the opportunity to throw
the football. We've seen what the other side looks like
and when Justin Fields was here running for his life
and that's just not going to do it and cut
it for the future. If you're we're talking about a
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division that has gotten a lot stronger.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, let's handicap the division Lions number one. Yes, Where
do the Bears rank with the Packers? I mean that's
what that's the unknown.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
If you're looking at you know, Jordan Love and what
he did this past season, I think you got to
give the edge to to that team up in Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You have to.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
But still I think we're we're on the cusp. But defensively,
that's what I love.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I love the.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
Fact that defensively this Bears defense has the has the
ability to pick up where they left off this past season,
and with a lot of young guys, especially on the
back end of that defense, the swagger is there.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That's what I love.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
I love the swagger being there because when you think
about Chicago Bears football, you think about defense, tough, nose,
hard nos run after you hit you hard.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
That's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
So I think they're probably third if I had, if
I had to say in my opinion, and then Minnesota
being last.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Where were you on Justin Fields a year ago.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
I'm still the biggest Justin Fields fan. I will always be.
I always felt in my heart that he had something special.
I don't believe in just in my opinion that the
Bears did right by him by making sure the pieces
were around him, developing him like he probably should have been.
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And when I look at other quarterbacks in the NFL,
especially these young ones, it's about who's coaching you as well,
and and and for for Justin some of this was
his fault. Some of it was, you know, the organization
maybe giving him the right pieces or teaching him the
way that he needs to. But he said it Dan
in that one interview last season where he was like, dude,
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I just got a lot going on, Like it's too
much going on in my head. How do you find
a way with a player that is telling you that,
How do you slow down the game for him to
make the game easier?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And I just don't think they were able to do that.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
And hence the reason why he's gone now and and
with the with the Steelers, and I'm hoping that this
is his opportunity like that he gets he gets out
of Chicago, he clears his head, and he gets an
opportunity to become that player that he hoped that he
was going.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
To be here.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I'm with you on Justin Fields. I would buy
the stock. I just think you have to have consistency
in the coaching offensive coach, head coach, and if I
put Justin Fields on that roster this year with the
Chicago Bears, we would probably be seeing something a whole
lot different than what we saw in the preceding years.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Yeah, I think so. I think it was just it's
a lot of pressure. I think that's the reason why
I say taper it back just a little bit, because
we know it's going to get even more on Caleb Williams,
the first overall pick for an organization and a city
that is just starving for a franchise quarterback like starving there.
They're salivating at the mouth like they're about to eat
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deep dish pizza here in Chicago. Dan, that's how That's
how excited fans are right now.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
He's Jared Payton, radio host in Chicago and a co
host of WGN radio's The Beat, and of course son
of Hall of Famer Walter Payton. You were at the
Hall of Fame ceremony coming up this past weekend, Uh,
pretty emotional for a variety of reasons, I'm sure, but uh,
how did you process everything being in Canton again?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (24:51):
It was it was a I've been having a hard
time explaining what the week was like in Canton because
at the hotel I was staying at, there was just
a bunch goats with gold jackets down the lobby, grazing
talking to one another, and it's just like you got
to take your phone out and just take videos. But
thirty one years ago, I was there as a twelve
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year old and my sister was eight, and I was
inducting my father into the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
and we go back. This is actually my third time back.
I went back when Erlaker went in to cover it
for WGNTV, and then I go back this time with
my kids.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
My son's twelve and my daughter's eight.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
So yeah, it's just my mom was there for the
first time since you know, ninety three, and I mean
the reason why I was there was emotional.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Steve Mongo McMichael has become like.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
A father to me over the years, and the fact
that I got a chance, you know, his battle with
als that he came to me and said, listen, I
want you to do this for me. Speaks volumes to
our friendship and also.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
To just the person that he is.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
And I was honored, and I know that there's just
not a lot of people dan that have done this twice.
I think Papa Bear Pallace did it twice. I think
I know Al Davis did it twice. To be in
that rarefied air of doing two induction speeches is pretty cool,
and also being the first son to induct his father,
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so there's a lot of history there for me. But
the cool part was seeing Mango get in and then
also being around all the other goats and hearing them
talk to me about my dad, and then also hearing
like Tony Dungee and Tony Biselli talking to my son saying.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know what your grandpa was.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
I was out on the field to watch him, and
then Tony Bisselli, I said, man, I just want to
I wish he was here, and Tony goes, no, we
wish he was here, Like you don't understand. We wish
that he was around so we could sit and just
watch him and talk to him. And it showed me
the respect level that my dad had in the NFL
and also amongst the greats.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And you were with Devin Hester in Miami. Weren't you
part of your college career.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Yeah, I was with Devin and I was also roommates
with Andre Johnson. Andre and I came in the same
year in ninety nine. So it was this. This is
how I know I'm getting old. It's not only about
putting getting Steve into the Hall of Fame, but my
old teammates are now going into the Hall of Fame.
And so to see those guys with their gold jackets
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and know that I was a part of their journey. Man,
it there was all the fields in Canton over the week.
It was pretty cool, did you know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Andrey Johnson was like, it feels like those who were
playing with him and against him, said it was different.
It was like a grown man against you know, high schoolers.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, we were actually there.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
We were talking about that as the rain was falling
down at the hall and we were sitting underneath the
hall and they didn't know what was going on, how
they if they were going to get the ceremony off,
and what they were going to do. We were all
just talking about and I told Patrick Willis, I said
when I saw the VHS tape that they sent to
the house of all the commits that year that was
coming out with me, that a lot of guys were
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on there.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Clinton port is, Philip you Cannon.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
But when you turned on the film and you saw
Andre Johnson, it was it was something different.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The ball would leave out of screen and then all you.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Would see is this big, huge dude run underneath it
and catch like a ninety yard bomb. And I was like,
I knew from the moment that he stepped onto the
football field that he was different. And you could just
tell by his built too when he walked into a room.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He was just different.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What's the coolest thing behind you?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh? Probably this.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
My dad's the replica of the Lombardi Trophy. It's probably
the coolest thing other than that. Up behind me is
also my first touchdown that I scored with the Titans
against the Texans, So I keep that one close to
me as well. And then the one hundred also my dad,
the NFL one hundred. That the thing that they had
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kind of a little sculpture that they had that's up
there as well.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So we'll check in with you during the season, I'm
sure there's going to be headlines coming out of Chicago,
hopefully some good ones there. Jared, it's always great to
talk to you.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Always great to talk to you. Dan.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Jared Payton radio host and former NFL CFL running back
and also co host of WGN radio is the Beat program,
and of course son of Hall of Famer Walter Payton.
You imagine being twelve years of age, then you're up
there in Kenton introducing your dad, and then full circle
you go back and your son is twelve as you're
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there as well, introducing inducting Steve McMichael as well. Pretty
cool stuff there, all right, some phone calls here coming up. People,
been on hold for a little while. Andrew and Washington,
Hi Andrew, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Good Moore and.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
DP and danf thanks for taking my call. Hey what
you can say about Jared Payton? Good ass dude, for sure.
Hey about Mike McDaniels. I love that he said that
he's just a coach and the dad. He doesn't have
time to work out, and he seems like the most humble,
smartest guy in the room. Maybe he came up with
a new T shirt idea of soft flex. So anyways,
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I do have a quick stat of the day. So
last night Elie de la Cruz went into the game
in an O for thirteen slump. He certainly broke out
of that slump by helping the Reds beat the Barland
ten to three. But he also had four.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Extra base hits in the game, which is the youngest
Reds player since nineteen oh one to have four extra
base hits in one game. And also he joined two
other Reds, one of them one of your favorites, Joe
Morgan and the other one, Eric Davis, as the only
Reds with twenty home runs in over fifty stolen bases
in the season.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Out of the Day.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Of the Day, stan Today, out Today Today.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
This is the style today Stata the Day brought to
you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program.
Ellie Delacruz joining Joe Morgan. Joe did it twice where
he had at least twenty homers and at least fifty
stolen bases. Eric Davis one of the more underrated players
I ever saw nineteen eighty six eighty seven, he was
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able to do it as well. But Ellie Delacruz, He's
only twenty two years of age. He's a whole lot
of fun to watch the Fats in Winnison, Wisconsin. Hey, Fats, Hey,
what's going on?
Speaker 11 (31:34):
Dan Quick saying about Mike McDaniels.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
He's the it guy. You said he was the it guy.
Speaker 12 (31:41):
Why don't you think he doesn't want to talk about money?
They're paying him sixty two thousand.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
Dollars a year to coach that team. Anyway, I heard
the things this past week about Eli Manning and he's
first ballot Hall of Famer, And you know what, being
a Packers fan, both of those champion chips went through
Lambeau Field, including Farg's last game as a Packer. Those
two victories are much much, much more impressive than the
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neutral game Super Bowl victories over.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
The goat, and.
Speaker 12 (32:16):
TA tell you what, he took care of the goat
the Super Bowls, but those two Super Bowl runs went
through Lambeau. You have to give that guy credit. First
ballot Hall of Famer, no question.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I don't know if I would agree with that, Fats,
but thank you. I think beating the Patriots twice in
the Super Bowl, Yes, going to Lambeau. Although we've seen
is Lambeau that great home field advantage that it should
be when it comes to the postseason, because it hadn't
been with Aaron Rodgers. I don't even know what Farbe's
record was. Didn't Michael Vick went into Green Bay and
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beat farv at Lambeau.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yes, Paul, if David Tyree doesn't hold on to the football,
is Eli Manning in the Hall of Fame? No, it's
that tenuous that first ballots aren't that tenuous. Yeah, I
don't think he This is not an insult to Eli Manning.
It's a proper look at it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes, I like Eli, like everyone does, whether he's on
the show or I see him in person. My job
is to be objective, not to sit here and route
Eli's going to go in the Hall of Fame. Do
I think he's first ballot? No, I don't, But that's
I'm not trying to disparage him. I'm just being honest
to the other quarterbacks who were first ballant Hall of famers. Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yes, See that season the Giants first beat the Patriots.
They about halfway through the season, people wanted Eli Manning
benched and Tom Coughlin fired.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, and they went on to beat an undefeated team.
They were ten and six, they struggled to the finish line.
Were they great during the postseason? Absolutely, But you know,
these these seasons come down to a Hall of Fame
career can come down to a couple of plays for people.
Either you did it or you didn't do it. And
it's amazing, but yes, it can come down to that.
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If Russ doesn't throw that interception, we may look back
on Russell Wilson and say, well, through that interception, if
he had had that other Super Bowl, if Russell Wilson
beat New England that second Super Bowl, there's no doubt,
no doubt, hall of famer. I don't know if he
might play himself out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yeah, Paul phil Simms, I think people mostly remember him
as a very good Giants quarterback. If he had two rings,
he flies into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, Well, he wasn't the quarterback of the second one, right.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
So that if he was the quarterback of that second one,
even if he has an off game like Peyton Manning
had in this second he gets in phil Simms regular season.
His regular season stats and winning percent is are drastically
better than Eli Manning's.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Phil Simms was a better quarterback. Yeah, but by one
little hook of not play well, he got hurt and
Jeff hound Stetler played in that game. It was a
defensive minded scheme that they had at bellich Check dreamed
up shut down the Buffalo Bills. They won that that
Super Bowl. But you're right, it comes down to that.
If Phil Simms is the quarterback, that's two Super Bowls
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he plays in New York, he'd be in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yes, Mark Matt Ryan's probably another guy. If they beat
the Patriots, he's probably young.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
He's an MVP. He might still be a Hall of Famer.
But yeah, you're right. If he beats New England, there's
no doubt he's a Hall of Famer. All right, let
me take a break. More phone calls coming up. We're
back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
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Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (35:42):
Occasionally, DraftKings will send over some fun numbers, numbers that
I didn't think of thinking about or asking you guys about,
but they sent this one over. How many NFL games
will go into overtime in the regular season, total. What
do you think the over under is DraftKings upcoming season
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number of NFL games that will go into overtime Paul
seven and a half, Todd nine and a half, Marvin
six and a half, Seaton.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Five.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
The number of NFL games that will go into overtime
in the regular season, according to DraftKings nineteen and a half. Wow,
does it feel like it? No, but I think there's
a lot more that go into overtime. And then you
realize how many regular season games will end in a tie? Well,
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they say, will any regular season game end in a tie? Yes?
Is minus four hundred, No is plus three hundred. How
about this over under receiving yards tyreek kill? Anybody want
to take a guess over under tyreek kill. I will
say that I was surprised at this number. Marvin fourteen
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hundred yards, all right, paulie fifteen twenty five, Todd sixteen
o eight, Seaton twelve hundred, thirteen seventy five. So Marvin,
I'm going to give you credit there. Travis Kelcey, he's
in love over under receiving yards Paul.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Eight sixty, Todd seven ninety six, Seatin.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Uh eight fifty one, Marvin nine hundred. Oh I got
you nine hundred. And the last one the guy who
is not sixty, the guy who's not happy with his quarterback.
In Las Vegas, Davante Adams over underpassing yards two fifty,
(38:01):
Todd Deavante Adams over under receiving yards. I should say
receiving yards.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I'm gonna say seven three, seven thirty three.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Alright, say Seaton, I'll go eight fifty, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Eleven Paul three hundred with the Raiders, a thousand with
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
One thousand yards receiving for DeVante Adams. I don't think
he's going to end up on the Jets. I like
how Aaron Rodgers blamed the media for making that a
big story. Then he's being interviewed in Vegas and he goes, oh, yeah,
there was this guy that I just wanted to, you know,
get rid of, and then yeah, it'd be great to
play with DeVante again, and then everybody ran with it.
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Now it's the media's fault because they ran with something
instead of him saying, you know what, I play in
New York. He plays with the Raiders, and I had
a great time with him with the Green Bay Pack.
Like Aaron can't knew that it's like. But let me
make it a little more complicated than it needs to be.
But yeah, I think he blamed somebody, a member of
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the Las Vegas media that blew that out of proportion.
All right, here's something for you. Which rookie quarterback started
the most games in college and who started the least
number of games in college? So, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,
Drake May, Michael Pennix, Junior Jay J. McCarthy. Which rookie
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quarterback out of that group started the most games in college? Todd,
I'm gonna say Drake May started the most. You can
say without saying I'm gonna say, I guess I could
just say May, Drake May. Seat O'Connor, I'm gonna say,
Michael Pennix, you did play a lot of games at Indiana,
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Marvin Drake May. All right, Paula, give the answer.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Drake May played the fewest amount of games in college
twenty six starts. Michael Pennix played six years of college
football at forty five starts.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Who started the least number of games?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Okay, Drake May, but the most of all, the most
the most. Yeah, Jaden Daniels two different colleges, five seasons,
sixty five starts in college, which I didn't know was possible.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
So he edged out Michael Pennicks junior.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Kayla Williams is at thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
J J.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
McCarthy's at thirty three.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So who played the.
Speaker 13 (40:36):
Most Jaden Daniels Jaden Daniels d most starts, Yeah yeah,
Pennix had the most seasons, fewer starts.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
International recording artist pit Bull is purchasing the naming rights
to Florida Internationals Football Stadium. Okay, He's going to pay
the school one point two million dollars per year for
the next five years. He's gonna change it to pitt
poll Stadium. Yeah yeah, world wine, worldwide, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
The pit Bull he buying releasing that.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oh all right, I'll give you two hours in the books,
only one more to go, Todd Seaton, Marv Pauli, yours truly,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio hour two on this Tuesday, Come on in
stay a while. Niners could be on the verge of
trading Brandon n Ayuk. The question is to where right now?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The leaders in the clubhouse appear to be the Patriots,
Patriots and the Cleveland Browns. Now, we do know that
the Cleveland Browns would appear to be offering Amari Cooper
in return. I don't know what else is involved in
this right now, but Bay Area NBC Bay Area Sports
is the first to report this that Brandon Nyuk is available,
(00:34):
but he can turn down any trade if he doesn't
want to go to New England. He doesn't have to.
He's twenty six years of age. He's going to double
his money here and a chance to get paid and leave.
One of the more potent offenses in the NFL. Stat
of the day is always brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. Pull
question from hour one and what are we going to
(00:55):
go with an hour two seegn o' connor.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, right now, we got up there off of the
rumored Brandon Ayuk trade. If you were Brandon Ayuk. Where
would you want to play Brown's Commander's Patriots Steelers? Right now,
the Steelers have forty four percent of the vote, followed
by about twenty six percent with the Browns Patriots in
last place.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
There. Yes, yes, not going to be a good year,
certainly offensively with that team. And by all accounts, Drake
May is not ready to play in the NFL, which
that used to be the norm. But you know, in
today's college football, you know formations and philosophies, offensive minded
head coaches, Your quarterbacks are usually ready to play at
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some point during their first year. But with Drake May,
I don't know if JJ McCarthy is ready to play.
That's the way it used to be, but that's not
the case anymore. It almost feels like, wait, you're not
ready to play your first year as a first round
draft pick. That's almost like when you get to your
sophomore year in college in basketball. Wait, you're not going
to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I think I'm going to work on my mid RG
jumper and stay around. Yes, Martin, did C J. Stroud
ruin this for everyone? Yeah? But if you go back
to Cam Newton's rookie year, Cam ruined it for a
lot of rookie quarterbacks. Cam was unbelievable. People forget how
that was just different. And when you're with Cam Newton
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and you see somebody that big, who's that athletic, You're like,
I mean, that's the quarterback. And if you said he was,
if you put him up next to Miles Garrett or
any of these guys, where you go, that's that's just
not right. That's different. But he was different.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
C J.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Stroud just proved he was a great quarterback. And I
think a lot of times what happens with Ohio State
quarterbacks or Alabama quarterbacks, it used to be where'd go?
I don't know. Did the receivers make him great? And
we saw this.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
With c J.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Stroud because I always say, give me a game, that's
a big game, and how did you do in that
big game? And same with justin fields And look, I'm
I'm in on. I'd buy that stock. I know a
lot of people wouldn't, but I think with good coaching,
consistent coaching, justin fields can be dynamic. And this is
where and I was told this by somebody who covers
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the Steelers yesterday, you know they're going to go with
Russell Wilson to start, because it's easier to go with
Russ and then go to Justin Fields instead of the
other way. Now that depends on Russell Wilson's health as well,
because he's been banged up in training camp. But they're
going to do their best. It's Russ's job, and then
Justin Fields will be there. He'll come in from the
bullpen and it might be he comes in and then
(03:40):
he stays in, or maybe it's just one of those,
Hey we need a little boost on offense. Go in
there and try to give us a little bit of
a lift. Good morning, if you're watching on Peacock, thank
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(04:02):
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be able to sign up. Jim Harbaugh. He got in
front of the media yesterday and of course he was
(04:24):
asked about the Michigan situation that he left and now
Michigan under investigation by the NCAA for the cheating scandal.
Here is the Chargers head coach, Jim Harball.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with
that lesson. I've raised my family on that lesson. I
have preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached.
No one's perfect. If you stumble, you apologize, and you
(04:58):
make it right. I do not apologize. I did not participate,
was not aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So
for me, it's back to work and attacking with an
enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, all right, he put it out there. He didn't stumble,
didn't cheat, didn't know anything about it, wasn't complicit in
any of this. He certainly wasn't vague there, and I
respect that. I mean, that's what we want. We want
somebody's going to say I was not involved. Now, the
first question you're going to have, or at least I
think you will, is the same one I did. You
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had no idea what your coordinators were doing. You had
no idea that somebody was getting this information, no idea
that somebody was going on the road representing your university,
not officially, you know, in a surreptitious way, but you
had no idea about that. So when somebody comes back
with all this information and gives it to your defensive coordinator,
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you never wonder where you got the information. That's the
first thing I thought of, And then the second thought was,
how do you not know something of that magnitude. There's
a lot of things that go on, and I've said,
it's hard to look at a coach and go, wait,
you didn't know that was going on. And I understand
part of the reason why you might know is they
(06:26):
don't want you to know. But in a situation like that,
where somebody's on the road in disguise, getting information and
giving that information, does that coach who gets that information?
Because it feels like those coaches are under fire here,
the coaches who are still there at Michigan are under fire.
(06:50):
Jim didn't know anything about that. That's what's surprising about it,
because it feels like Jim Harbaugh is omnipresent and he
knows everything that's going on there or that he should. Now,
that's a lot of people to keep an eye on,
keep track of. But if you're getting information where somebody's
(07:10):
going on the road to cheat and it's working, somebody
is going to want to know something about Hey, you
know what they do this? I noticed this? Yeah, where'd
you see that? Which is what I would ask coach,
been doing my homework here. You know, I got some
(07:30):
sources working on you know, don't worry. I get I
get one point. I have to know, well, where are
you getting this information? How are you getting this information?
It's it's his staff, it's his coaching staff, and they're
the ones that are being named in this NCAA investigation.
But Jim came out and said it, and uh, you know,
(07:53):
truly believes it. So we'll take him at facebage. Now,
keep in mind, as I said before, when Jim was Adam,
he was going to fight this, and then all of
a sudden, when they were going to get to court,
what happened? It all dissipated. Why So there's still questions there.
Do I think they cheated? Yes? How much did it
(08:15):
help them? I don't know, but it is there and
it's going to continue to be there during this investigation. Now,
maybe there's no postseason ban, but that's what the NC DOUBLEA,
from what I'm told, is going to go for. They're
going to go for maybe or one or two year
postseason ban for Michigan. Now when is that no idea?
(08:35):
Once again, I've had great sources with the Big Ten.
The Big Ten is not involved in this. It's the
NC DOUBLEA. So that's why I haven't gotten the information
that I was hoping to get. But those on the
inside know that I'm at least asking those questions if
they can help me out move this forward. Yeah, Pong,
whether you believe or not.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
What did you guys think of Harbaugh's strategy yesterday in
dealing with this?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, what else is his strategy going to be? I mean,
he's going to come out and he's going to attack.
He's not there at Michigan anymore. He's he's with the Chargers. Hey,
I don't know anything about this, and I'm going to
guess that those coaches are probably going to protect him
and not say anything about this. But he didn't say
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that somebody didn't do it. He didn't know anything about.
Now maybe it's semantics there. But do I think Jim
feels like something happened? Yeah, did Jim know? I'm guessing
that he didn't, taking his word, but I mean I
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would be surprised. I would be if he did not
know what was going on, because once again, if you're
going to go to that degree, there has to be
the reward with the risk that goes along with that.
And that's what I don't understand. You know, It's like spygate.
Did they need to do that against the Jets? No
(10:00):
they didn't, but they did the fleet gate. Did they
really need to go that far? No, they didn't. But
then you do, and then all of a sudden you
double down, and then that's when people go, Okay, now
we're coming after you. I don't know if that's going
to be the case here, but do I think there's
other schools in the Big ten that would certainly like
(10:22):
to see Michigan investigated. Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The Olympic headlines there simoone Biles wraps up Paris. You
had no Alliles, he'll be competing in the gold in
the two hundred meters. It was a fun day yesterday.
And the fact that you can watch it live is
what makes it great. So you had armand duplantis he
is the armund Armando. He won the pole vault, so
(10:50):
his nickname is Mondo. So he won his second consecutive
Olympic gold medal, set the world record the distance between
his gold medal in first and then second place with
Sam Kendrick's of Team USA who got the silver. So
between first and second that differential was larger than the
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differential between second place and eleventh place. So this is
a guy that everybody expected to win. The question is
would he win by a lot? How much would he
win by? We also won gold in women's surfing Carolyn Marx,
and then we were watching discus the Team USA's Valerie Allman.
(11:34):
She won again and second consecutive. It's always interesting when
you see the shot put or the discus and you go,
at one point, did they go, how about we spin
a couple of times, because I'm going to guess the
first person to throw the shot put probably just stood
there and went. Or if you're going to do the discus,
(11:57):
you just go like one spin, two spin. She's an athlete,
and she did a couple of spins and she blew
everybody away. But who came up with the you know what,
I'm gonna put the shot put under under my chin
and then I'm gonna spin and then I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I do love the idea that these things started with
somebody sitting around board being like, how far do you
think I could throw this? That to me seems like
the origin of all of them. And then at some
point somebody right was like, nah, dude, you don't overhand
throw it. If I pick it up and spin with it,
I could probably throw it further. But it's a little wobblie.
What if I used my chin to hold it and
spun and then how far do you think I could
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throw it?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Then? But who came up with the shot put? To
begin with? Some like you have to make a shot
erry bored Grecian? No, No, it wasn't somebody an ancient
Greece just walking along going I don't know, I'm gonna
you think I could throw this? I'm gonna pick up
this cannon ball. Maybe that's where it started with cannonballs.
How much is a cannon ball way compared to let's
(13:01):
say shot put sixteen pounds? Checking, yes, damn it, just
throw it over. We need to shoot this thing, and
then the discus did somebody like, how do you come
up with that? Where you go, you know what, I
got this thing and then you hold it and then
you spin and then you throw it and it's kind
of like a saucer.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hey had Dionysus throw that thing over here?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Dionysus I had the shot put starting in Scotland in
eighteen sixty six, the first recorded putting of the shot competition.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
They called it okay, but somebody had to make this
thing where they go, hey, hey, Angus, throw that thing
over here. Hey, Seamus, come over here, stir quick. I
can't it's sixteen pounds. Put it under your chin and
throw it. And then somebody's on the other end, probably
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trying to catch it, and they're like, no, no, don't
catch it. No, trying to track down you know, the javelin. No, no, no, no,
just let it fall, let it fall. Dang you see
the hole That means in the ground. You really hucked
that thing, hey bee, as you know, Yeah, Paul I
got the discus.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
As being og Olympic Games. Way back in the day
in Greece, it was like the plates that they used
at tables. People would throw them and hence became the discus.
It went away for years, and then in the eighteen
seventies in Germany a gymnastics teacher started bringing back the discus,
and then it became Olympic gif it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Somebody had to make the discus. Somebody had to go,
you know what, we used to throw plates.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I have Christian George kohl Rosch of Germany who created
the discus.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, but once again is somebody creating some kind of
thing to hold throw whatever? Now? Like what is new
now that would compare to the discus or the shot
put even the javelin? Who went you know what, Tommy,
why don't you take this poll and then just throw
it as far as you can? There certain events where
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you go who came up with this? And why?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
My wife's mad. I keep throwing the dishes and breaking
the dishes. So I created the discus. Why didn't they
call it the dish because they broke break condish? Stay
with are you kidding me? There's no response on the
other side the discus? Thanks ton, Yeah, poem.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
I have the javelin going back to seven o eight BC,
which is a great time for throwing. I heard as
part of the pentathlon and used to hold the javelin
and with like a little wrap around it on your
hand and it would slide out. The javelin was thrown
for distance and there was a target at the other
end for the second part of the competition.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But who decided this that's the thing where you go,
you know what, I got this event? How about we
do this like hurling. You guys understand hurling in college?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I did. You know.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
What's my favorite though, is that some of these events,
when it's over, the competitor has a chance to keep going.
Like if you're in the shot put and you've already one,
you can get one more turn. Mono de Plantis he
had already won the pole vault, and this competitor said
go for the Olympic record. He's like, all right, crank
it up.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah. It was a pretty good moment there. I mean
it took a long time, but it was a good
moment there where he's going for the Olympic record. It
was fun, fun yesterday. All right, we'll talk to Jared Payton,
Bolder's son and get his thoughts on the Bears situation.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Here.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Caleb Williams expectation level and Steve McMichael, the former Bear,
going into the Hall of Fame over the weekend. All right,
so we'll settle on pull question for hour two. Your
phone calls always welcome. We'll get to those coming out
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later today against Brazil. Is that right? They're big favorites.
I think twenty seven point favorites there in that game
and the over under. Let's see Kevin Durant fifteen and
a half, Lebron James fourteen and a half, Anthony Edwards
thirteen and a half, and twelve and a half four
mister throwback, Steph Curry. Nothing on Jason Tatum because I
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was curious because I don't know how much playing time.
There was no over under for Jason Tatum. Today he's
off the board, which is pretty crazy because god forbid,
it's a close game and Jason Tatum doesn't play. Did
anybody get upset when they benched Joel embiid?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
They were happy?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yes, now, but you know, here's an MVP. Jason Tatum's
on an MVP. Joel emb got binged. Did anybody get
upset about that he didn't get any playing time? What's
Steve Kurr doing? He is a radio host, businessman, he's
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a motivational speaker. He's Jarret Payton, former NFL and CFL
running back played at the u and a co host
of WGN radio's The Beat program, son of the Hall
of Famer Walter Payton. Good to see you again, Bud.
How you doing.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
What's going on, sir? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
How's morale in Chicago? If I said, Bears fans you
should feel this way, how do you think they would feel?
Speaker 9 (19:12):
I think super excited about what's to come.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I think maybe.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Don't use the word super Let's just say excited because
super sounds like super Bowl excited here.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Well, I mean if you talk to some fans though, Dan,
that's they're just hoping for something that is going to.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I don't know, just out of the box a little bit.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
I think that we're excited because offensively, Dan, we were
in a place right now where we haven't never been
before with a quarterback that has the potential to to
have those special abilities that are similar to me. I'm
just saying this to me of Patrick mahomes ask of
watching some of the clips and watching some of the practices, right,
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he's got that feel. And then offensively, you have weapons
on the outside as well that you can throw to.
And DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and DeAndre Swift in
the backfield, so there's a lot of optimism for what
the future could look like. My issue is I feel
like we've been here before, and I think that's the
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hardest part for Bears fans is that we've had the
quarterback before that we think is the guy and we
get over our skis and I think we got to
taper it back a little bit and understand that Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is still a rook that's no fun, Jered, I know fun.
They won't go with that.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But we have to change it up, Dan, We have to.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
We have to here in Chicago taper back expectations just
a little bit. We can be excited, but let's let
this young man grow and can we? And I think
what Ryan Poles has done is he's built a roster.
He's changed this roster around. These are his guys now,
and we're at a place where I feel like we
actually have some stability and some foundation to build on.
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Probably my biggest issue and biggest concern is the offensive line.
Can they find a way to be able to stay
healthy there to give Caleb Williams the opportunity to throw
the football. We've seen what the other side looks like
and when Justin Fields was here running for his life
and that's just not going to do it and cut
it for the future. If you're we're talking about a
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division that has gotten a lot stronger.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, let's handicap the division Lions number one. Yes, Where
do the Bears rank with the Packers? I mean that's
what that's the unknown.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
If you're looking at you know, Jordan Love and what
he did this past season, I think you got to
give the edge to to that team up in Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You have to.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
But still I think we're we're on the cusp. But defensively,
that's what I love.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I love the.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
Fact that defensively this Bears defense has the has the
ability to pick up where they left off this past season,
and with a lot of young guys, especially on the
back end of that defense, the swagger is there.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
That's what I love.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
I love the swagger being there because when you think
about Chicago Bears football, you think about defense, tough, nose,
hard nos run after you hit you hard.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
That's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
So I think they're probably third if I had, if
I had to say in my opinion, and then Minnesota
being last.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Where were you on Justin Fields a year ago.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
I'm still the biggest Justin Fields fan. I will always be.
I always felt in my heart that he had something special.
I don't believe in just in my opinion that the
Bears did right by him by making sure the pieces
were around him, developing him like he probably should have been.
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And when I look at other quarterbacks in the NFL,
especially these young ones, it's about who's coaching you as well,
and and and for for Justin some of this was
his fault. Some of it was, you know, the organization
maybe giving him the right pieces or teaching him the
way that he needs to. But he said it Dan
in that one interview last season where he was like, dude,
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I just got a lot going on, Like it's too
much going on in my head. How do you find
a way with a player that is telling you that,
How do you slow down the game for him to
make the game easier?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And I just don't think they were able to do that.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
And hence the reason why he's gone now and and
with the with the Steelers, and I'm hoping that this
is his opportunity like that he gets he gets out
of Chicago, he clears his head, and he gets an
opportunity to become that player that he hoped that he
was going.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
To be here.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I'm with you on Justin Fields. I would buy
the stock. I just think you have to have consistency
in the coaching offensive coach, head coach, and if I
put Justin Fields on that roster this year with the
Chicago Bears, we would probably be seeing something a whole
lot different than what we saw in the preceding years.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Yeah, I think so. I think it was just it's
a lot of pressure. I think that's the reason why
I say taper it back just a little bit, because
we know it's going to get even more on Caleb Williams,
the first overall pick for an organization and a city
that is just starving for a franchise quarterback like starving there.
They're salivating at the mouth like they're about to eat
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deep dish pizza here in Chicago. Dan, that's how That's
how excited fans are right now.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
He's Jared Payton, radio host in Chicago and a co
host of WGN radio's The Beat, and of course son
of Hall of Famer Walter Payton. You were at the
Hall of Fame ceremony coming up this past weekend, Uh,
pretty emotional for a variety of reasons, I'm sure, but uh,
how did you process everything being in Canton again?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Dan?
Speaker 9 (24:51):
It was it was a I've been having a hard
time explaining what the week was like in Canton because
at the hotel I was staying at, there was just
a bunch goats with gold jackets down the lobby, grazing
talking to one another, and it's just like you got
to take your phone out and just take videos. But
thirty one years ago, I was there as a twelve
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year old and my sister was eight, and I was
inducting my father into the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
and we go back. This is actually my third time back.
I went back when Erlaker went in to cover it
for WGNTV, and then I go back this time with
my kids.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
My son's twelve and my daughter's eight.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
So yeah, it's just my mom was there for the
first time since you know, ninety three, and I mean
the reason why I was there was emotional.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Steve Mongo McMichael has become like.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
A father to me over the years, and the fact
that I got a chance, you know, his battle with
als that he came to me and said, listen, I
want you to do this for me. Speaks volumes to
our friendship and also.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
To just the person that he is.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
And I was honored, and I know that there's just
not a lot of people dan that have done this twice.
I think Papa Bear Pallace did it twice. I think
I know Al Davis did it twice. To be in
that rarefied air of doing two induction speeches is pretty cool,
and also being the first son to induct his father,
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so there's a lot of history there for me. But
the cool part was seeing Mango get in and then
also being around all the other goats and hearing them
talk to me about my dad, and then also hearing
like Tony Dungee and Tony Biselli talking to my son saying.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know what your grandpa was.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
I was out on the field to watch him, and
then Tony Bisselli, I said, man, I just want to
I wish he was here, and Tony goes, no, we
wish he was here, Like you don't understand. We wish
that he was around so we could sit and just
watch him and talk to him. And it showed me
the respect level that my dad had in the NFL
and also amongst the greats.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And you were with Devin Hester in Miami. Weren't you
part of your college career.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Yeah, I was with Devin and I was also roommates
with Andre Johnson. Andre and I came in the same
year in ninety nine. So it was this. This is
how I know I'm getting old. It's not only about
putting getting Steve into the Hall of Fame, but my
old teammates are now going into the Hall of Fame.
And so to see those guys with their gold jackets
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and know that I was a part of their journey. Man,
it there was all the fields in Canton over the week.
It was pretty cool, did you know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Andrey Johnson was like, it feels like those who were
playing with him and against him, said it was different.
It was like a grown man against you know, high schoolers.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, we were actually there.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
We were talking about that as the rain was falling
down at the hall and we were sitting underneath the
hall and they didn't know what was going on, how
they if they were going to get the ceremony off,
and what they were going to do. We were all
just talking about and I told Patrick Willis, I said
when I saw the VHS tape that they sent to
the house of all the commits that year that was
coming out with me, that a lot of guys were
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on there.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Clinton port is, Philip you Cannon.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
But when you turned on the film and you saw
Andre Johnson, it was it was something different.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The ball would leave out of screen and then all you.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Would see is this big, huge dude run underneath it
and catch like a ninety yard bomb. And I was like,
I knew from the moment that he stepped onto the
football field that he was different. And you could just
tell by his built too when he walked into a room.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He was just different.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What's the coolest thing behind you?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh? Probably this.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
My dad's the replica of the Lombardi Trophy. It's probably
the coolest thing other than that. Up behind me is
also my first touchdown that I scored with the Titans
against the Texans, So I keep that one close to
me as well. And then the one hundred also my dad,
the NFL one hundred. That the thing that they had
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kind of a little sculpture that they had that's up
there as well.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So we'll check in with you during the season, I'm
sure there's going to be headlines coming out of Chicago,
hopefully some good ones there. Jared, it's always great to
talk to you.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Always great to talk to you. Dan.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Jared Payton radio host and former NFL CFL running back
and also co host of WGN radio is the Beat program,
and of course son of Hall of Famer Walter Payton.
You imagine being twelve years of age, then you're up
there in Kenton introducing your dad, and then full circle
you go back and your son is twelve as you're
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there as well, introducing inducting Steve McMichael as well. Pretty
cool stuff there, all right, some phone calls here coming up. People,
been on hold for a little while. Andrew and Washington,
Hi Andrew, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Good Moore and.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
DP and danf thanks for taking my call. Hey what
you can say about Jared Payton? Good ass dude, for sure.
Hey about Mike McDaniels. I love that he said that
he's just a coach and the dad. He doesn't have
time to work out, and he seems like the most humble,
smartest guy in the room. Maybe he came up with
a new T shirt idea of soft flex. So anyways,
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I do have a quick stat of the day. So
last night Elie de la Cruz went into the game
in an O for thirteen slump. He certainly broke out
of that slump by helping the Reds beat the Barland
ten to three. But he also had four.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Extra base hits in the game, which is the youngest
Reds player since nineteen oh one to have four extra
base hits in one game. And also he joined two
other Reds, one of them one of your favorites, Joe
Morgan and the other one, Eric Davis, as the only
Reds with twenty home runs in over fifty stolen bases
in the season.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Out of the Day.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Of the Day, stan Today, out Today Today.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
This is the style today Stata the Day brought to
you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program.
Ellie Delacruz joining Joe Morgan. Joe did it twice where
he had at least twenty homers and at least fifty
stolen bases. Eric Davis one of the more underrated players
I ever saw nineteen eighty six eighty seven, he was
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able to do it as well. But Ellie Delacruz, He's
only twenty two years of age. He's a whole lot
of fun to watch the Fats in Winnison, Wisconsin. Hey, Fats, Hey,
what's going on?
Speaker 11 (31:34):
Dan Quick saying about Mike McDaniels.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
He's the it guy. You said he was the it guy.
Speaker 12 (31:41):
Why don't you think he doesn't want to talk about money?
They're paying him sixty two thousand.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
Dollars a year to coach that team. Anyway, I heard
the things this past week about Eli Manning and he's
first ballot Hall of Famer, And you know what, being
a Packers fan, both of those champion chips went through
Lambeau Field, including Farg's last game as a Packer. Those
two victories are much much, much more impressive than the
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neutral game Super Bowl victories over.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
The goat, and.
Speaker 12 (32:16):
TA tell you what, he took care of the goat
the Super Bowls, but those two Super Bowl runs went
through Lambeau. You have to give that guy credit. First
ballot Hall of Famer, no question.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I don't know if I would agree with that, Fats,
but thank you. I think beating the Patriots twice in
the Super Bowl, Yes, going to Lambeau. Although we've seen
is Lambeau that great home field advantage that it should
be when it comes to the postseason, because it hadn't
been with Aaron Rodgers. I don't even know what Farbe's
record was. Didn't Michael Vick went into Green Bay and
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beat farv at Lambeau.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yes, Paul, if David Tyree doesn't hold on to the football,
is Eli Manning in the Hall of Fame? No, it's
that tenuous that first ballots aren't that tenuous. Yeah, I
don't think he This is not an insult to Eli Manning.
It's a proper look at it.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes, I like Eli, like everyone does, whether he's on
the show or I see him in person. My job
is to be objective, not to sit here and route
Eli's going to go in the Hall of Fame. Do
I think he's first ballot? No, I don't, But that's
I'm not trying to disparage him. I'm just being honest
to the other quarterbacks who were first ballant Hall of famers. Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yes, See that season the Giants first beat the Patriots.
They about halfway through the season, people wanted Eli Manning
benched and Tom Coughlin fired.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, and they went on to beat an undefeated team.
They were ten and six, they struggled to the finish line.
Were they great during the postseason? Absolutely, But you know,
these these seasons come down to a Hall of Fame
career can come down to a couple of plays for people.
Either you did it or you didn't do it. And
it's amazing, but yes, it can come down to that.
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If Russ doesn't throw that interception, we may look back
on Russell Wilson and say, well, through that interception, if
he had had that other Super Bowl, if Russell Wilson
beat New England that second Super Bowl, there's no doubt,
no doubt, hall of famer. I don't know if he
might play himself out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yeah, Paul phil Simms, I think people mostly remember him
as a very good Giants quarterback. If he had two rings,
he flies into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, Well, he wasn't the quarterback of the second one, right.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
So that if he was the quarterback of that second one,
even if he has an off game like Peyton Manning
had in this second he gets in phil Simms regular season.
His regular season stats and winning percent is are drastically
better than Eli Manning's.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Phil Simms was a better quarterback. Yeah, but by one
little hook of not play well, he got hurt and
Jeff hound Stetler played in that game. It was a
defensive minded scheme that they had at bellich Check dreamed
up shut down the Buffalo Bills. They won that that
Super Bowl. But you're right, it comes down to that.
If Phil Simms is the quarterback, that's two Super Bowls
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he plays in New York, he'd be in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yes, Mark Matt Ryan's probably another guy. If they beat
the Patriots, he's probably young.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
He's an MVP. He might still be a Hall of Famer.
But yeah, you're right. If he beats New England, there's
no doubt he's a Hall of Famer. All right, let
me take a break. More phone calls coming up. We're
back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
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Speaker 2 (35:42):
Occasionally, DraftKings will send over some fun numbers, numbers that
I didn't think of thinking about or asking you guys about,
but they sent this one over. How many NFL games
will go into overtime in the regular season, total. What
do you think the over under is DraftKings upcoming season
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number of NFL games that will go into overtime Paul
seven and a half, Todd nine and a half, Marvin
six and a half, Seaton.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Five.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
The number of NFL games that will go into overtime
in the regular season, according to DraftKings nineteen and a half. Wow,
does it feel like it? No, but I think there's
a lot more that go into overtime. And then you
realize how many regular season games will end in a tie? Well,
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they say, will any regular season game end in a tie? Yes?
Is minus four hundred, No is plus three hundred. How
about this over under receiving yards tyreek kill? Anybody want
to take a guess over under tyreek kill. I will
say that I was surprised at this number. Marvin fourteen
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hundred yards, all right, paulie fifteen twenty five, Todd sixteen
o eight, Seaton twelve hundred, thirteen seventy five. So Marvin,
I'm going to give you credit there. Travis Kelcey, he's
in love over under receiving yards Paul.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Eight sixty, Todd seven ninety six, Seatin.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Uh eight fifty one, Marvin nine hundred. Oh I got
you nine hundred. And the last one the guy who
is not sixty, the guy who's not happy with his quarterback.
In Las Vegas, Davante Adams over underpassing yards two fifty,
(38:01):
Todd Deavante Adams over under receiving yards. I should say
receiving yards.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I'm gonna say seven three, seven thirty three.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Alright, say Seaton, I'll go eight fifty, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Eleven Paul three hundred with the Raiders, a thousand with
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
One thousand yards receiving for DeVante Adams. I don't think
he's going to end up on the Jets. I like
how Aaron Rodgers blamed the media for making that a
big story. Then he's being interviewed in Vegas and he goes, oh, yeah,
there was this guy that I just wanted to, you know,
get rid of, and then yeah, it'd be great to
play with DeVante again, and then everybody ran with it.
(38:48):
Now it's the media's fault because they ran with something
instead of him saying, you know what, I play in
New York. He plays with the Raiders, and I had
a great time with him with the Green Bay Pack.
Like Aaron can't knew that it's like. But let me
make it a little more complicated than it needs to be.
But yeah, I think he blamed somebody, a member of
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the Las Vegas media that blew that out of proportion.
All right, here's something for you. Which rookie quarterback started
the most games in college and who started the least
number of games in college? So, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels,
Drake May, Michael Pennix, Junior Jay J. McCarthy. Which rookie
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quarterback out of that group started the most games in college? Todd,
I'm gonna say Drake May started the most. You can
say without saying I'm gonna say, I guess I could
just say May, Drake May. Seat O'Connor, I'm gonna say,
Michael Pennix, you did play a lot of games at Indiana,
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Marvin Drake May. All right, Paula, give the answer.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Drake May played the fewest amount of games in college
twenty six starts. Michael Pennix played six years of college
football at forty five starts.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Who started the least number of games?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Okay, Drake May, but the most of all, the most
the most. Yeah, Jaden Daniels two different colleges, five seasons,
sixty five starts in college, which I didn't know was possible.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
So he edged out Michael Pennicks junior.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Kayla Williams is at thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
J J.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
McCarthy's at thirty three.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So who played the.
Speaker 13 (40:36):
Most Jaden Daniels Jaden Daniels d most starts, Yeah yeah,
Pennix had the most seasons, fewer starts.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
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Speaker 4 (41:11):
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