August 7, 2024 • 40 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP talks to NBC Track and Field analyst Ato Bolden about the action we've seen in the Olympics thus far. Chris Simms explains why he likes to see rookie QBs play early. And the man that creates the NFL HOF busts, Blair Buswell discusses the oddest request he's ever received.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This guy has been a well busy man.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Auto Bolden, four time Olympic medalist, a silver, three bronze.
Now it's good to see you. You have a silver
and three bronze. If I said you could have one
gold but you can't have your silver and three bronze,
would you take the one gold over a silver and
three bronze yesterday?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Okay, absolutely, okay, absolutely, I love my medals, but to
be able to say that you're Olympic champion has a.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Nice ring to it, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, what if I said one gold or four silvers?
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Still the gold? Still the gold?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay? Do you want the one or the two hundred?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You want to be in this sport?
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Yeah, you want.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
You want the sexy events, the mile and then not
that the other ones aren't great, but those are the
ones that are reviewed.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You had the lean by Noah Lyles and and you're
you're taught to do this. I don't know how often
you practice that lean with your chest as opposed to
your head or your hands or whatever. But explain that
to us as a former uh, you know, world track
Uh star of what you do with the tape and
how often you practice that. Oh, we lost him, Auto,
(01:34):
can you hear me? And we'll see if we can
get him once again. Thought it was a great question,
and I thought maybe he was taking time. Yeah, there's
there this way.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's always gonna be this way. It's
always gonna be this way.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's never changed in ours.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, we'll try it again. Here, we'll uh, we'll reset
with Auto Bolden by the way eight seven seven three
DPS show email address DP Atdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handlelydp
show a Seaton Poll question as we wait to get
Auto Bolden back.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Yeah, we got a few of them up here. Let's
see would you rather have one gold or four silvers?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
Eighty percent of the audience are taking the gold medal? Okay,
who pulled out of the proposed trade patriots or Brandon Ayuk.
That's a seventy four percent Brandon Ayuk situation.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And whose career would you rather have?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Three six Mafia or Diane Warren?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Three six Mafia winning with sixty seven percent? What that
is just a slight to the great Diane Warren. Okay,
But that's again, that's taking the gold medal.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I would still take the four silver. You know,
if I said it was over four Olympics, I'd still
take the silvers over one gold. Four Olympics is definitely different. Yes,
that is true. That is true. Also a little bit
later on, we'll talk to the man who is responsible
for the sculpting of the Hall of Fame bust at
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the Pro Football Hall of Fame, So that'll be coming up.
The White Sox win front runner Marvin has his White
Sox hat on. They've ended the streak at twenty one games, right,
and now no one cares about the White Sox. You win,
now you're irrelevant. If you're going to be in it,
be in it to win it, and that is win
it with the worst losing streak in baseball history. But
(03:26):
stand up, they ended up Yeah, I know they ended
up winning, and now nobody's gonna care about the White Sox. Yes, Mark, the.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
Play by play guy, do you think that's his you know,
signature saying south side stand up?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He's been waiting to say that for two months. Well,
he doesn't sound that excited when he says it. Here
is how it sounded last night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Everybody deserves a win after this streak.
Speaker 8 (03:52):
This could do it out to left field coming in,
Ben attending, and.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The streak is over.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
After twenty one l's in a row, the White Sox
come to the West Coast and get their first win
in a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Say it with me, south Side stand up?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Okay, that's become a little bit of a thing with
the White Sox. I think south side stand up? Yeah, yeah, okay,
I think all season they have a little bit. And
I don't know if everybody is on board in White
Sox fandom with south side stand up.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I don't know if it was convincing outside. Yeah,
Conley walked to the existing stand. You've been sitting for
a month and you're all cramped up. South side home
stand up. The father son combination Larry and Gavin Sheets
now now tied for the all time losing streak. So
(04:49):
you got the father's son situation here. Gavin Sheets plays
for the White Sox. His dad, Larry played for the
nineteen eighty eight Orioles, who also lost twenty one games
in a row. Neither of them did did anything really
during their twenty one game losing streaks, But Gavin Sheets
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and Larry Sheets father son Combo both played on teams
that lost twenty one consecutive games.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
Steat of the day, Stall of a day, Statata Day,
Stantata Day.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
This is the state of the day that will never
be broken, That will never that's a record that will
never be broken. You got father son and they're both
going to lose twenty one consecutive games for separate franchises.
Pretty amazing. But the White Sox winning last night, and
(05:50):
they did so, beating the Oakland A's to end their
losing streak at twenty one games in a row. Also
nearly had a no hitter last night. Frambourg Valdez nearly
had a no hitter one out away from his second
career no hitter. When this happened, Fadder goes, there's a
swing and a high fly ball.
Speaker 10 (06:10):
Dude about to write la parmit is. There goes the
no hitter and the Rangers are.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Off the last yep they came with it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I guess Corey Seeker's done that twice now with two
ounts where he broke up. He also broke up a
no hitter back in twenty sixteen. Matt Moore is uh
auto back with us, Yes, I am alrighty, my really buddy,
uh Paris Hotel WiFi guys, Okay, let me go back
to leaning at the tape. Noah Lyles ends up winning
(06:49):
the gold fastest man in the world. Tell us about
the process of that. When you're a sprinter, it's.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Not the sort of thing that you would practice very often,
but certainly leading into a championship setting. It's something that
as a coach you go over with your appet Hey,
remember the difference between gold and silver, bronze and no
metal might be the lead. It's always been the case.
I've seen a lot of people online going, oh no,
it's the foot at speed skating. Oh no, you can
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win by a nose. That would be horse racing. In
our sport, it's the torso the first tour, so that
touches that left side of the finish line, that's the
person who wins. So there, I saw the photo. There's
about two inches when you blow it up between Noah
and Kashane Thompson of Jamaica at that point zero zero
five seconds on the clock. That's the difference last Sunday
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night between gold and silver.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
How long do you think you saying Bolt's record time
in the Olympics will stand.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
They're not getting anywhere near that record for well. The
one hundred be the record. I think it's gonna last
a little longer. No, if he wasn't doubling, I would
I think you have maybe a chance to get a
little closer to it. He's put one two away from
it now with his nineteen point three one American record.
I think those two hundred later record will go first.
The hunter is going to take a little longer.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
No, I think he.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Improves his start maybe. And to Shane Thompson certainly of Jamaica,
who got the silver medal, has a chance at down
the world And just.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The build of you saying bold like that's how rare
is that in sprinting that you have somebody who what
is he? Six two sixty three?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
No, are you saying it's six five? To have somebody, Yeah,
To have somebody at six five be the Olympic champion,
the world record holder and greatest ever is unheard of
in the in the past, I mean Carl Lewis, Olympic
Christie and the generation before Bolts. Those guys were tall
at six two or six three, but six ' five
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he's an anomaly because he has you know, he has
those big old legs which can cover so much ground,
but he also has amazing turnover for somebody who you know,
like me, is only tide nine.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We get caught up in speed in other sports like football,
like Tyreek kill Like, okay, you know where I'm going
with this period. Tyreek Hill have world class speed.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Tyreek Hill has world class speed. He's one of the
few guys that I look at him when announcers on
a Sunday say that's world class feed. I go, yep,
that is world class speed. You can probably the world
class speed in the NFL. Actually, on like one hand,
maybe two, there's a lot of guys that get, you know,
getting lauded with, oh yeah, that's world class speed. World
class feed is not the ability to just hit a
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top end speed. The world class speed means you hit
it and then you're able to hold it at eighty
meters into that one hundred meters dash. No allows what
was not yet decelerating. And that's what's making that what's
made him special, and that's why he has the Olympic
goal huddle.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But if Tyreek Hill and Noah Lyles did a sixty
meter dash.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It wouldn't be pretty. Tyreek tried to sixty a couple
of years ago, and no, he's not training for it,
and his body's been beat by the NFL and he
has to be a lot bulk here. And I get
all of that. I coach a ton of football players.
But Tyreek ran sixty seven. Know what, this year ran
sixty four. That may not seem like a lot in
terms of the mass, but it's that's a that's a
(10:20):
that's a.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Butt wooman forty yard dash?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Same thing? If they ran forty.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
No, obviously it would be a little closer. And no,
it's not, you know, the greatest starter ever, So no,
it would be a little closer. And maybe if they
ran ten times Tyre, you know, Tyreek would get closed
once or twice.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He's a auto Bolden. He'll be on the call Track
and Field on NBC. Four time Olympic medalist. The peripheral
vision that you have to have, Like how important is
that in certain races of being able to see what's
on the side of you.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It's important. But the thing about peripheral vision is the
faster you are going, the more it can lie to you.
So if I'm standing still. My peripheral vision can be
one hundred percent trusted. I have a sense of if
somebody is ahead of me, or even with me, or behind.
When you're running at twenty seven miles an hour like
Noah was last Sunday night in that one hundred meter final,
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it can deceive you. And sometimes you think somebody's ahead,
they're actually behind. It can be a little confusing when
you're going that fast. So sprinters are thought, okay, you can.
I mean, your periperal vision will be there, but don't
take it as gospel. It's almost like your spiper mirror
in your car, you know, ochetune or your mirror close
to him. Their fear like that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
What's coming up this week that we should keep an
eye on.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I think the thing now that that amazing f fifteen
hundred meter run I was had last night, I think
the thing that everybody's looking forward to now is men
scorns meter finals night, And of course Sidney magloughlin of
Ronie versus Femcoble of the Netherlands, the two best of
all time in the four hundred meter hurdles. Not that
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the men's four hundred meter hurdles isn't going to be
great because in that race you have the three best
of all time and American Ride Benjamin is undefeated in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What's it like getting in the starting blocks hundred meters?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I say that, I mean, look, I have kids, and
I remember the birth of my kids, as we all do.
But I also remember all my Olympic finals, particularly in
one hundred, and to see it last Saturday for the
women and last done for the men reminded me of
how special a moment it is. It's you and the
other seven fastest people in the world, There's a helicopter above,
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the entire stadium is hushed, and you know that you
are going to be remembered for the rest of your
life by how you do in this one race. It's
why vote, it's a megastar. It's why Carl Lewis is
revered everywhere he goes Michael Johnson obviously in the two
and the four. But it is a very special moment
and not one that you ever ever forget.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But put us in that moment of what do you
what do you hear? Aside from the gun going on,
if I.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Can think back that far, it's been a while since
my last music final, you hear yeah, a little bit
of the crowd. What I used to try to hear
was my own inner thoughts, saying, you know, respond well
to the gun. Be patient in your dry phase, which
is that first twenty or thirty when guys still have
their head down looking at the track, kind of pushing
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their way through the first part of the race. And
then you always want to tell yourself, don't panic, don't
be tense, relax your way all the way through. And
that's what Noah did. A Noah had a masterclass in
it last Sunday night on my Instagram. Your viewers and
listeners can go to it. I broke it down kind
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of zero to one hundred. Why Noah won, it's because
he didn't panic, because at one point he was last
in the race. In fact, at ten twenty thirty and
forty meters one was in dead last. But he ran
the last six seats faster than anybody else, and that's
why he's dealing the champion.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Do neighborhood dads ever want to race you.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
All the time. It's like boxing and sprinting. If you're
like the heavy league champions were, like they see you,
they put their hands up. When people know you're a
sprinter or an ex sprinter, used to be one of
the world's fastest men, They're like, okay, you want to race,
how fast you can run out? It's like, okay, guys,
all right, all right, take it easy there.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Just line them all up, you know, charge them, make
it like a fantasy camp. You know, five hundred dollars.
I'm going to raise you, and then we're gonna put
this to bed. Okay, Okay, I got it, I got it.
Thanks for joining us as always. Hope you having fun
over there. It sounds great and uh we look forward
to talking to you again.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
I'm having a ball. Thanks for having you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Thank you, buddy, Auto Bolden, four time Olympic medalist, world
champ and Hall of Famer College We're gonna take a break.
Chris Sim's gonna join us. We'll talk some football with him.
We'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (15:49):
Always great to see Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live
co host and of course the contributor to Football Night
in America. Been a while since we've seen you. A
lot to catch up here, but let me start with
the I guess still in the headlines with Brandon Ayuk.
Not a question of if, but more like when and where?
What do you think happens in this situation?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:12):
I think ultimately I'm with you. I think that the
forty nine ers and Brandon Ayuk. I do think they're
gonna part ways, right. I don't think it's going to
be like, I don't think it's a guarantee.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
We heard Shanahan yesterday say he's still open to keeping Ayuk,
and I think that if he doesn't get the right
deal for a guy who's a first round pick and
certainly a number one receiver. Then you know he'll bite
the billet and deal with the situation. But I mean, yeah,
we're far down the road where obviously, hey, go out there,
see if you can find a deal, find a trade partner.
(16:43):
There are teams willing to trade for Brandon Ayuk, right.
I think the big thing too is what teams is
he's willing to go to, because he has power in
this situation. But it does seem inevitable that it's going
to happen here.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But the Niners were preparing for this. They drafted wide
receivers and it's almost as if it was a foregone
conclusion that either Debo or Ayuk was going to go.
But I can't blame Brandon Ayuk for wanting to get paid.
I think we look at it and go, why would
you go at age twenty six from a Super Bowl
contender to maybe a team, Well, he's not going to
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go to the Patriots. But Steelers are the Browns.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yeah, Steelers, Browns, right, Commanders are probably in that conversation
as well as one of the teams you hear about. Yeah,
it's it's I think more about he wants to be
paid where he just thinks he deserves.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
To be paid.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
And I think that's the big conversation with some of
these guys out there, right, I mean, from all due
accounts of what you hear from people around the league,
a little bit right there was hey, wait, I want
this much money. I want this much money, and then
Aman Ross, Saint Brown and AJ Brown side dude deals
and all of a sudden, the line of demarcation or
what he wanted as far as his new contract changed,
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So I think that changed things as well. The forty
nine ers have a lot of other contracts they're trying
to balance out here. But that's a big question to me, Dan,
and I think it's a little bit with CD Lamb. Listen,
I'm a guy that would sit here and tell you
AJ Brown, Chase Jamar, Chase Tyreek Kill Justin Jefferson. They're
in another class in my opinion, from the rest of
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the NFL. So I don't think anybody should be paid
quite that. But I think that's where really it's, you know,
the rubber hits the road. There is ayutes mad and
he thinks he should be paid up in that category
or somewhere close to it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
We saw the situation unfold overnight ESPN article and the
Eagles that looking back on what happened last season, they
had a great start, they had a terrible finish. Now
you're hearing the relationship between quarterback and coach is not great.
I don't know if it's salvageable. You're bringing a new
offensive coordinator. Where are the Eagles right now in the
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pecking order of teams in the NFC given what we
just read about, Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well, listen to the NFC.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
I don't think has a ton of I would call
super Bowl caliber type of football teams.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Right.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
We got a lot of playoff teams, But I think
when you get into super Bowl caliber teams, the Eagles
are certainly on that short list. Come on, it's an
all star team. It's arguably the best O line in football.
It might be the best duo receivers in football. The
D line's probably the best in football.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
The rest of their defense ain't bad either, So they
got a lot of stuff there that that should not
be acceptable. With the way that you're ended last year,
I think the big thing is, and you hear a
lot of this and listen, I don't know the exact story.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But yeah, there's been issues.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
There is issues, whether it's with how players feel about
Jalen Hurts in the locker room or even Nick Sirianni
in the locker room, there's definitely issues there. So where
there's smoke, there's fire, and I think everybody around the
league kind of knows that, right, Jalen Hurts is not
loved by everybody in the locker room, certainly not. And
I think that Nick Sirianni has some of that same
stuff there in the locker room as well that they're
(19:53):
dealing with. But their big thing from last year, Dan
was the other coordinators. That was the issue, right Nick
Sirianni moving on to the Indianapolis Colts, he is one
of the best offensive mines in football, and they certainly
had a guy there in Brian Johnson who was not
ready for NFL football offensive coordinator duty. And then we
know on the defensive side of the ball it was
really the same issue. So I expect a better team
(20:15):
this year because Vic Fangio is as good as it gets,
and then of course we know we got Kevin Winslow there.
I do think it's a step up, right, Kellen Moore sorry,
Kevin Winslow.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
We don't want him.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
No old school. Yeah, it's just weird that a quarterback
goes to the line of scrimmage and he and his
wide receiver decide they're going to go rogue here with
a game on the line in Seattle that you know.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
That was highlight so speaks so a lot, right, yes, right, yes, yeah,
like I.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Would if I ever did that right and did it.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I played the few games that I did with John Gruden,
you would know before I got off the sideline that
I did something wrong and that he would lay into me.
I mean even I remember I was on the phone
with my dad. My dad was at shock. I can't
even imagine doing that. If I did that with ourselves,
Oh my gosh, I don't know if I've been on
the Giants the next day, right, So, yeah, that's certainly
(21:09):
a disconnect between coach, quarterback and maybe culture altogether.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
There in Philadelphia last year.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We're talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co
host Football Night in America analyst as well. It's gotten
to the point where we look at these quarterbacks and
we're like, yeah, you should start. And it didn't used
to be that way. You needed one two, maybe even
three years before you got in. Now it's c J.
Stroud kind of changed things. I'm not going to say
ruin things, but certainly changed the expectations for Caleb Williams
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and maybe Jaden Daniels this year.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Well one, I'm one that's in favor of always playing
the guy right as long as you feel like he's
somewhat physically and mentally ready to take it, take on
the challenge. To me, the game reps they can't be
emulated in practice no way, right, So that to me
is the most important thing. Definitely, there are cases that
now and then, right Drake may would about being a
(22:02):
guy up in New England where I go, I don't
know if I feel that way.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
There's mechanical issues, there's decision making issues him.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Might do him some good to sit on the bench
for a year, work on some of those things and
see what the NFL game is all about. But the
rest of the crew, that's why I love them so much.
Coming out in the draft, I thought they were about
his NFL ready as I had seen in a while.
As far as a group of quarterbacks and know how
to play the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Jayde and Daniels Caleb Williams. We know no doubt they're
gonna start.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
It's the other two guys that I think it's It's dicey, right,
you get the bow Knicks. Hey, there's some real talent
and competition there. Jared Sidham's a hell of a player.
He's got starting quarterback caliber traits there, right, But we
know ultimately Sean Payton's gonna want to get his guy.
Bow Nix looks like he could be Drew Brees junior.
All right, So there's that situation. And then who's the
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fourth I'm missing.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
J McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's another one, very similar.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
And Sam Darnold started caliber talent, right, I mean, the
forty nine ers were thoroughly impressed by him last year,
so he's capable of running that offense up there and
making it look good. But I still think ultimately you're
gonna see Kevin McCarthy somewhere in the early part of
the season, if not to start the season when it's
all said and done.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I had a pro personnel person tell me that the
Jets talent level is elite, like that their defense elite.
I mean, there's a lot of great things about the Jets.
But why do I have this question mark on how
good they can be?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I think we got to see the old line, right,
you got to see it to believe it. I think
that's the first thing. We haven't seen a good old
line there in New York on either team and quite
some time. Is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Still who he thinks he is?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I have questions about that. His last year in Green
Bay was not very good, right.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
I mean it is so, and then that last year
not playing at all either, and then being the age
he is and the injury he had, I certainly question that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
To a degree. But everything else, Dan, I mean, it's
top notch there. I mean, we know they got.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Pretty good talented receiver, they got decent tight ends, a
stable of running backs, and the defense is as talented
as it gets in football at all three levels.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
To me.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
The other part with the Jets, Dan, is is scheme.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
It is scheme.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
You know they play that Seattle scheme on defense is
very good, but it doesn't necessarily create turnovers and win
games for them sometimes like Cleveland Browns defense did last year.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Right, They're multiple, they do crazy stuff.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
They had some games their offense played like craft, but
you went, oh my gosh, the defense is gonna win
the game by themselves, and they did that the Jets
because they're so simple there. I wish they were a
little more creative. I think they could get more out
of the defense as far as playmaking. And then of
course we know Nathaniel Hackett and the offense is certainly
a question mark two.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
It's like big time talent, but I'd like to see
a little first before you know, we start pounding the
Super Bowl chant here.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
When do you make your Super Bowl picks?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Probably late August, right like that, right before the that
week before the regular season.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But I've definitely been thinking about it lately.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I certainly have we brought this up on the show.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I did.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Is Eli Manning going to be a first ballot Hall
of Famer?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (25:17):
I don't think he is a first ballot Hall of
Famer type talent. I certainly think he's a Hall of Famer.
But to me, like I'm old school and that first
ballots are like guys where it's like they're in a
special Oh, ray Lewis, we don't have to think about it,
Lawrence Taylor, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
John Elway, what come on, get out of here. You're
in your own special room.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Eli Manning, damn good, We know that, right, But there's
a lot of other things on his resume that I
think you could sit there and go, well, that's not
first ballot Hall of Fame worthy.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Can you be objective? And with the following question who
had a better career Eli or your father?
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Well, you know, I think Eli had a better career
is he got to play in that second Super Bowl
would win it right where my dad, of course had
was hurt in Week fourteen and nineteen ninety and then
they went on and won the Super Bowl with Jeff Hosteller.
So I think that kind of gives the edge to
Eli Manning.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, your dad was a better regular season quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I think my dad was a better talent and a
better player. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
I don't know if his career was good, but I
think when you get into the talent and the player,
and maybe the the talent he had around him on offense,
Like most people my age, can't name one receiver that
played for my dad. Right, you go through the Eli
Manning Giants and you go, damn, it's one All star
after another wide receiver. So there are some things there
that's good conversation. Eli's career is better. But I do
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think Dad was a better player.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I do.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
But if David Tyree drops that ball, is Eli Manning
a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, that's a good question. I don't know, b be
right on the line, who would be? Well, he certainly
shouldn't have been the MVP of the Super Bowl. I
know that, sure, somebody on that defense. It's the greatest.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Offense we ever saw ever.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Absolutely, yes, and you know seventeen to fourteen with Brady
and Randy Boss and Wes Welker and crew, that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But U we know Eli certainly had to clutch Gene.
There's no question in that.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Luke Keighley is up for the Hall of Fame, first
ballot Hall of Famer. I think he's Yeah, I do.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I do now because again, Luke Keighley, how many years
did we go through and go, well, the best linebacker
in football is Luke Keigley. Oh, the second best linebacker
is Luke Keighley. That to me, it like jumps out
to you when when you go through a period of
time and there's no doubt you're the one or two
or three best at your position for a consistent or
consistent period of time. That to me is when you
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start talking about first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, it's tricky, and I agree with you. There's certain
players that you say their name and you go all
Hall of Famer, right, And I don't know if that's
the litmus test for who is a first ballot Hall
of Famer. If I just say this name and you respond,
does that mean you're a first ballot Hall of Famer?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I think it usually is. I mean, you know, there
might be a little nuance every now and then, but.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
I think the ones that hit you in the face,
and it goes back to like the Dion Sanders right,
like upper Room that he talks about, I do agree
with him.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
There there's a hall of fame within the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Dion Sanders, Peyton Manning, right, Tom
Brady was in there, right, They're in a little different
class than some of those other people I saw in
the Hall of Fame When I go there and walk
the brown and I.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Don't have any problem if we had a different shade
of gold jacket for first ballot Hall of Famer, Like I.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Think it should be gold.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
It should be a goal literally have a little gold
in it, like the Notre Dame helmet or something.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You gotta suckle some gold down there. They get that
to be in the special room.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I think if you're a first ballot Hall of Famer,
you deserve to be singled out so then people realize
we're all Hall of famers. That guy's a first ballot
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I would agree with that one hundred percent. I would yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Again, you know, there's certain players that just were above
and beyond right, and I think we've named a few
of them throughout time where yeah, I mean again, if
you hear stories about my dad playing the Eagles back
in the day, the first five meetings were like Reggie White,
Reggie White, how do we stop Reggie White? Reggie White,
that's first ballot Hall of Famer? And when I played
against ray Lewis and the Baltimore Ravens, it was a
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very similar conversation.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I always thought Ed Reid was more valuable than ray Lewis.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Well, it's a good conversation. I mean again, there's another guy.
There's no doubt we're talking about right in his own room.
First ballot, Ed was Ed and Troy Polamalo during that
time when you played quarterback, were torture for quarterback because
you were like, wait, why are they here?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
They should be doing this? What is he doing? Are
they telling him to do this? Or is he just freelancing?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Right?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
So they had great instincts and they really knew offense
and what the offense was trying to do.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Really really special player.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Good to talk to you, Bud. We'll talk to you soon,
Thank you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Alright, buddy'd be good. Say how to the guys?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Chris says, high guns. Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live,
co host and contributor to Football Night in America.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (30:18):
He's Blair bust Well, Pro Football Hall of Fame leads
sculptor forty one years doing this. Blair, I mean you
got to put a T in your last name.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
This is what you do.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's bust Well, not bust Well.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, what we're bucking at? That's right?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, where are you right now?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I'm in Utah. I'm in Pleasant Girlve, Utah, my studio.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And then you're surrounded by so who's behind you some
of these busts. There is that John Madden behind you.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, you see, I've got Ronnie Lott, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith,
Shannon Sharp, Ed Reid.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Shouldn't they be in the Hall of Fame? Blair?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
These are yeah, these are my replicas.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh okay, do you have replicas of every bust that
you've sculpted?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Nod selected ones.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
How did you get the John?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Wow? Great story. I was a running back at b
Y U had some you know, great teams with Mark Wilson,
Jim mcvaan, Steve Young, Andy Reid. My senior year, at
the annual sports Award banquet, I was awarded this Student
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Athlete Award for what I did outside the game. I
didn't play much, but and I did a sculpture of
Jim McMahon and Danny Age. We were all seniors together.
So I've been up a couple of times during the night.
And the guest speaker that night was Bill Walsh, who
had just won his first Super Bowl with the forty
nine ers. After the banquet. He came and grabbed me
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and asked me if I would considered doing a sculpture
of he and Eddie de barbelow the owner as a
gift for winning the Super Bowl, And of course I
jumped on that.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
He took me.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
It had me come down to the forty nine ers
first preseason game and they both post for me. But
the season didn't start in nineteen eighty two, that was
a strike year, so coach flew me out to Youngstown,
Ohio to give the bronze to Eddie, and Eddie had
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me sit down and he was thanked me up and
down and said, now, what do you want to do
with this talent? And I said, my dream is to
work for the NFL, especially the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
He reached over, picked up the phone, called Pete Elliott,
the director of the Hall, and said, I have a
young man you need to meet. I'll send him right over.
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That was forty two years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well good for you. Okay, let's say Luke Keikley next
year gets into the Hall of Fame. When does the
process start for you? It's like, let's do Eli Manning.
So Eli Manning's going in the Hall of fame and
then what is the When does the process start for you?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't know anything before anybody else does. So once
they're announced who they are, I meet him at the
weekend of the Super Bowl along with the staff of
the Hall of Fame. Then we all get together and
the staff will explain what to expect the next six months.
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And during that time we measure them for their gold jacket,
their ring, and their bust. So I have a chart
and I fill out the chart and I take kind
of mugshots of different angles. Now I know who they are,
I get ahold of their teams, and I get as
many pictures are like because they have to agent back
when they played and so a different expressions, different hairstyles,
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different ages. And so when they come to my studio,
I get it started from those pictures and measurements, so
that when they come it's already kind of things are
in the right place, the right size. So now we
have a picture board. They walk in and I say, okay,
do you want to bite someone's set off? Do you
want to be happy you're there? Or somewhere in between
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you and what hairstyle do you want to be? So
we've got to play that back and forth until they
we decide what they want to do. They sit down
and we spend the day talking.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Okay, give me the honest request you've had from a
Hall of Fame inductee.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
The artist, Well, Brandy Moss came in. It was they
were doing sixty thing and he came in looking at
the board and he said, mister Buzzwell, I was looking on.
Disney pulls out a picture of him with this afro.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's this bag, and I just got no, did he
really want an afro that big?
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Oh? He just wanted to shop. Okay, So we ended
up doing corn rolls.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But didn't Dion want to have his bandana on?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah? Yeah, but that's that was set a long time ago.
If Paul Brown doesn't have a hat, and Landry and
and Bud Grant and Joe Gibbs, there's no you know,
we're not doing new rags and skull caps.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, Landry's hat, that would have been awesome though, Blair. Yeah,
maybe a removable hat.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, I did tell I told Dion, I said I
wish I could, But I tell you what, when you
get your coffee of the bust, you can change the
color of that dewer egg every night if you want to.
And so at the induction he turned and said, this
is looking pretty good, but there's something missing and the
command and wraps around the head.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
What's the toughest part of an inductee to get right?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well, the likeness of the eyes and the expression, and
you know that's that's a fun part, but it's it's
also the toughest.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Who has final approval.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Me?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But you pause there, Blair, are you sure you.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Well? I run it by the inductee and their wives.
I guess their wives have the final say and yeah,
so they I'll run it by when I get out
the clay ready and and and then they'll say, you know,
they want to change this or that, or you know,
can can you trim the beard a little bit more?
Or whatever?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Did far of one facial hair?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I can't remember. He was debating whether he's going to
be smiling or the intense look. I remember that we
were working on the intense look and his wife walked
in and says, you've got to be smiling. So I mean,
that's always going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And then do you measure the gap between the teeth
for Michael straighthand to get it right there.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Well, I got a lot of you know, the press
from New York kept asking how are you going to
do the gap? And I said, it's real tough. I
take a little wire loop and I go like that
and I'm done.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Just a little hole in there?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
How many hours for each one?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I don't start and then finish it and then go
on to the next one. I'm doing them all at
the same time, so I give myself about two months
to do. I do about three or four a year,
and I've got a great team that I've trained to
do the rest of them. Tommy takes every the two weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
How much would it cost if I was going to
have one of me done?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Lot?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, Well let me get Let's go around the room.
How much do you think Blair is gonna charge me?
Hall of Fame broadcaster Todd How much do you think?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I'm going to say?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
One hundred and twenty five thousand dollars? One hundred and
twenty five Do you see La Marina? Look how amazing
those things are just ahead. Just the head is not
a bodie. It's got six figures for that, Okay, seating?
How much does Blair charge. The Ed Reid bust is
unbelievableed red is awesome. It's phenomenal. Ed Reid the oldest
looking young football player I ever saw.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Absolutely fantastic. Okay, I'm gonna say twenty five, twenty five,
k Marvin, I'm gonna say fifty fifty. Paully, twenty five
is a good gas. I'm gonna go even twenty maybe.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, he's been.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Doing this forty one years.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I've been doing I wanted forty one years.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
He's the lead sculptor for the Hall of Bame.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I'm the lead broadcaster for America. Okay, Blair, what's the answer.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
It's somewhere between the twenty five and fifty.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I think I should do it. Do you have
time to do this? Blair?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
What do you think I have to do that?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Okay, I think I got to do this, Blair?
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Can can?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Can we talk about these?
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
But we can?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
We can maybe make something happen here.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Got a lot of stories to share, Okay, all.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Right, I I could even come visit now. I'll do
nude too, if that helps you get in. Oh no,
no nudes, okay, because I do a full body if
you wanted me to like, you know, the David. I'll
be the Daniel. Okay, yeah, would you guys pony up
some money though, for this sculpture, for our sculpture of you.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Yeah, we can help pay for your sculpture, yes, Dan,
it would be an honor.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's a team effort. How about a go fund me
for being crowdfund it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, crowdfund Let's see
what we can do. Thanks for being a good sport Blair.
And now I'm serious about doing this? Are you serious
about doing this?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Well, we just got to fit it in somewhere, got
a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
But well, why don't you skip a Hall of Fame
class and just say that you're well, thanks for joining us,
thanks for sharing, Thank you all right, and add the tea.
Add the tea. Blair bust Well bust Well Pro Football
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Hall of Fame Lead sculptor and been doing it for
forty one years for the Hall of Fame.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This guy has been a well busy man.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Auto Bolden, four time Olympic medalist, a silver, three bronze.
Now it's good to see you. You have a silver
and three bronze. If I said you could have one
gold but you can't have your silver and three bronze,
would you take the one gold over a silver and
three bronze yesterday?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Okay, absolutely, okay, absolutely, I love my medals, but to
be able to say that you're Olympic champion has a.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Nice ring to it, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, what if I said one gold or four silvers?
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Still the gold? Still the gold?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay? Do you want the one or the two hundred?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You want to be in this sport?
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Yeah, you want.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
You want the sexy events, the mile and then not
that the other ones aren't great, but those are the
ones that are reviewed.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You had the lean by Noah Lyles and and you're
you're taught to do this. I don't know how often
you practice that lean with your chest as opposed to
your head or your hands or whatever. But explain that
to us as a former uh, you know, world track
Uh star of what you do with the tape and
how often you practice that. Oh, we lost him, Auto,
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can you hear me? And we'll see if we can
get him once again. Thought it was a great question,
and I thought maybe he was taking time. Yeah, there's
there this way.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's always gonna be this way. It's
always gonna be this way.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's never changed in ours.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, we'll try it again. Here, we'll uh, we'll reset
with Auto Bolden by the way eight seven seven three
DPS show email address DP Atdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handlelydp
show a Seaton Poll question as we wait to get
Auto Bolden back.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Yeah, we got a few of them up here. Let's
see would you rather have one gold or four silvers?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
Eighty percent of the audience are taking the gold medal? Okay,
who pulled out of the proposed trade patriots or Brandon Ayuk.
That's a seventy four percent Brandon Ayuk situation.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And whose career would you rather have?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Three six Mafia or Diane Warren?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Three six Mafia winning with sixty seven percent? What that
is just a slight to the great Diane Warren. Okay,
But that's again, that's taking the gold medal.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I would still take the four silver. You know,
if I said it was over four Olympics, I'd still
take the silvers over one gold. Four Olympics is definitely different. Yes,
that is true. That is true. Also a little bit
later on, we'll talk to the man who is responsible
for the sculpting of the Hall of Fame bust at
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the Pro Football Hall of Fame, So that'll be coming up.
The White Sox win front runner Marvin has his White
Sox hat on. They've ended the streak at twenty one games, right,
and now no one cares about the White Sox. You win,
now you're irrelevant. If you're going to be in it,
be in it to win it, and that is win
it with the worst losing streak in baseball history. But
(03:26):
stand up, they ended up Yeah, I know they ended
up winning, and now nobody's gonna care about the White Sox. Yes, Mark, the.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
Play by play guy, do you think that's his you know,
signature saying south side stand up?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He's been waiting to say that for two months. Well,
he doesn't sound that excited when he says it. Here
is how it sounded last night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Everybody deserves a win after this streak.
Speaker 8 (03:52):
This could do it out to left field coming in,
Ben attending, and.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The streak is over.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
After twenty one l's in a row, the White Sox
come to the West Coast and get their first win
in a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Say it with me, south Side stand up?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Okay, that's become a little bit of a thing with
the White Sox. I think south side stand up? Yeah, yeah, okay,
I think all season they have a little bit. And
I don't know if everybody is on board in White
Sox fandom with south side stand up.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I don't know if it was convincing outside. Yeah,
Conley walked to the existing stand. You've been sitting for
a month and you're all cramped up. South side home
stand up. The father son combination Larry and Gavin Sheets
now now tied for the all time losing streak. So
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you got the father's son situation here. Gavin Sheets plays
for the White Sox. His dad, Larry played for the
nineteen eighty eight Orioles, who also lost twenty one games
in a row. Neither of them did did anything really
during their twenty one game losing streaks, But Gavin Sheets
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and Larry Sheets father son Combo both played on teams
that lost twenty one consecutive games.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
Steat of the day, Stall of a day, Statata Day,
Stantata Day.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
This is the state of the day that will never
be broken, That will never that's a record that will
never be broken. You got father son and they're both
going to lose twenty one consecutive games for separate franchises.
Pretty amazing. But the White Sox winning last night, and
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they did so, beating the Oakland A's to end their
losing streak at twenty one games in a row. Also
nearly had a no hitter last night. Frambourg Valdez nearly
had a no hitter one out away from his second
career no hitter. When this happened, Fadder goes, there's a
swing and a high fly ball.
Speaker 10 (06:10):
Dude about to write la parmit is. There goes the
no hitter and the Rangers are.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Off the last yep they came with it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I guess Corey Seeker's done that twice now with two
ounts where he broke up. He also broke up a
no hitter back in twenty sixteen. Matt Moore is uh
auto back with us, Yes, I am alrighty, my really buddy,
uh Paris Hotel WiFi guys, Okay, let me go back
to leaning at the tape. Noah Lyles ends up winning
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the gold fastest man in the world. Tell us about
the process of that. When you're a sprinter, it's.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Not the sort of thing that you would practice very often,
but certainly leading into a championship setting. It's something that
as a coach you go over with your appet Hey,
remember the difference between gold and silver, bronze and no
metal might be the lead. It's always been the case.
I've seen a lot of people online going, oh no,
it's the foot at speed skating. Oh no, you can
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win by a nose. That would be horse racing. In
our sport, it's the torso the first tour, so that
touches that left side of the finish line, that's the
person who wins. So there, I saw the photo. There's
about two inches when you blow it up between Noah
and Kashane Thompson of Jamaica at that point zero zero
five seconds on the clock. That's the difference last Sunday
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night between gold and silver.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
How long do you think you saying Bolt's record time
in the Olympics will stand.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
They're not getting anywhere near that record for well. The
one hundred be the record. I think it's gonna last
a little longer. No, if he wasn't doubling, I would
I think you have maybe a chance to get a
little closer to it. He's put one two away from
it now with his nineteen point three one American record.
I think those two hundred later record will go first.
The hunter is going to take a little longer.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
No, I think he.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Improves his start maybe. And to Shane Thompson certainly of Jamaica,
who got the silver medal, has a chance at down
the world And just.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The build of you saying bold like that's how rare
is that in sprinting that you have somebody who what
is he? Six two sixty three?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
No, are you saying it's six five? To have somebody, Yeah,
To have somebody at six five be the Olympic champion,
the world record holder and greatest ever is unheard of
in the in the past, I mean Carl Lewis, Olympic
Christie and the generation before Bolts. Those guys were tall
at six two or six three, but six ' five
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he's an anomaly because he has you know, he has
those big old legs which can cover so much ground,
but he also has amazing turnover for somebody who you know,
like me, is only tide nine.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
We get caught up in speed in other sports like football,
like Tyreek kill Like, okay, you know where I'm going
with this period. Tyreek Hill have world class speed.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Tyreek Hill has world class speed. He's one of the
few guys that I look at him when announcers on
a Sunday say that's world class feed. I go, yep,
that is world class speed. You can probably the world
class speed in the NFL. Actually, on like one hand,
maybe two, there's a lot of guys that get, you know,
getting lauded with, oh yeah, that's world class speed. World
class feed is not the ability to just hit a
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top end speed. The world class speed means you hit
it and then you're able to hold it at eighty
meters into that one hundred meters dash. No allows what
was not yet decelerating. And that's what's making that what's
made him special, and that's why he has the Olympic
goal huddle.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But if Tyreek Hill and Noah Lyles did a sixty
meter dash.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It wouldn't be pretty. Tyreek tried to sixty a couple
of years ago, and no, he's not training for it,
and his body's been beat by the NFL and he
has to be a lot bulk here. And I get
all of that. I coach a ton of football players.
But Tyreek ran sixty seven. Know what, this year ran
sixty four. That may not seem like a lot in
terms of the mass, but it's that's a that's a
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that's a.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Butt wooman forty yard dash?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Same thing? If they ran forty.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
No, obviously it would be a little closer. And no,
it's not, you know, the greatest starter ever, So no,
it would be a little closer. And maybe if they
ran ten times Tyre, you know, Tyreek would get closed
once or twice.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He's a auto Bolden. He'll be on the call Track
and Field on NBC. Four time Olympic medalist. The peripheral
vision that you have to have, Like how important is
that in certain races of being able to see what's
on the side of you.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It's important. But the thing about peripheral vision is the
faster you are going, the more it can lie to you.
So if I'm standing still. My peripheral vision can be
one hundred percent trusted. I have a sense of if
somebody is ahead of me, or even with me, or behind.
When you're running at twenty seven miles an hour like
Noah was last Sunday night in that one hundred meter final,
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it can deceive you. And sometimes you think somebody's ahead,
they're actually behind. It can be a little confusing when
you're going that fast. So sprinters are thought, okay, you can.
I mean, your periperal vision will be there, but don't
take it as gospel. It's almost like your spiper mirror
in your car, you know, ochetune or your mirror close
to him. Their fear like that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
What's coming up this week that we should keep an
eye on.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I think the thing now that that amazing f fifteen
hundred meter run I was had last night, I think
the thing that everybody's looking forward to now is men
scorns meter finals night, And of course Sidney magloughlin of
Ronie versus Femcoble of the Netherlands, the two best of
all time in the four hundred meter hurdles. Not that
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the men's four hundred meter hurdles isn't going to be
great because in that race you have the three best
of all time and American Ride Benjamin is undefeated in
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What's it like getting in the starting blocks hundred meters?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I say that, I mean, look, I have kids, and
I remember the birth of my kids, as we all do.
But I also remember all my Olympic finals, particularly in
one hundred, and to see it last Saturday for the
women and last done for the men reminded me of
how special a moment it is. It's you and the
other seven fastest people in the world, There's a helicopter above,
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the entire stadium is hushed, and you know that you
are going to be remembered for the rest of your
life by how you do in this one race. It's
why vote, it's a megastar. It's why Carl Lewis is
revered everywhere he goes Michael Johnson obviously in the two
and the four. But it is a very special moment
and not one that you ever ever forget.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
But put us in that moment of what do you
what do you hear? Aside from the gun going on,
if I.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Can think back that far, it's been a while since
my last music final, you hear yeah, a little bit
of the crowd. What I used to try to hear
was my own inner thoughts, saying, you know, respond well
to the gun. Be patient in your dry phase, which
is that first twenty or thirty when guys still have
their head down looking at the track, kind of pushing
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their way through the first part of the race. And
then you always want to tell yourself, don't panic, don't
be tense, relax your way all the way through. And
that's what Noah did. A Noah had a masterclass in
it last Sunday night on my Instagram. Your viewers and
listeners can go to it. I broke it down kind
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of zero to one hundred. Why Noah won, it's because
he didn't panic, because at one point he was last
in the race. In fact, at ten twenty thirty and
forty meters one was in dead last. But he ran
the last six seats faster than anybody else, and that's
why he's dealing the champion.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Do neighborhood dads ever want to race you.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
All the time. It's like boxing and sprinting. If you're
like the heavy league champions were, like they see you,
they put their hands up. When people know you're a
sprinter or an ex sprinter, used to be one of
the world's fastest men, They're like, okay, you want to race,
how fast you can run out? It's like, okay, guys,
all right, all right, take it easy there.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Just line them all up, you know, charge them, make
it like a fantasy camp. You know, five hundred dollars.
I'm going to raise you, and then we're gonna put
this to bed. Okay, Okay, I got it, I got it.
Thanks for joining us as always. Hope you having fun
over there. It sounds great and uh we look forward
to talking to you again.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
I'm having a ball. Thanks for having you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Thank you, buddy, Auto Bolden, four time Olympic medalist, world
champ and Hall of Famer College We're gonna take a break.
Chris Sim's gonna join us. We'll talk some football with him.
We'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (15:49):
Always great to see Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live
co host and of course the contributor to Football Night
in America. Been a while since we've seen you. A
lot to catch up here, but let me start with
the I guess still in the headlines with Brandon Ayuk.
Not a question of if, but more like when and where?
What do you think happens in this situation?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:12):
I think ultimately I'm with you. I think that the
forty nine ers and Brandon Ayuk. I do think they're
gonna part ways, right. I don't think it's going to
be like, I don't think it's a guarantee.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
We heard Shanahan yesterday say he's still open to keeping Ayuk,
and I think that if he doesn't get the right
deal for a guy who's a first round pick and
certainly a number one receiver. Then you know he'll bite
the billet and deal with the situation. But I mean, yeah,
we're far down the road where obviously, hey, go out there,
see if you can find a deal, find a trade partner.
(16:43):
There are teams willing to trade for Brandon Ayuk, right.
I think the big thing too is what teams is
he's willing to go to, because he has power in
this situation. But it does seem inevitable that it's going
to happen here.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But the Niners were preparing for this. They drafted wide
receivers and it's almost as if it was a foregone
conclusion that either Debo or Ayuk was going to go.
But I can't blame Brandon Ayuk for wanting to get paid.
I think we look at it and go, why would
you go at age twenty six from a Super Bowl
contender to maybe a team, Well, he's not going to
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go to the Patriots. But Steelers are the Browns.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yeah, Steelers, Browns, right, Commanders are probably in that conversation
as well as one of the teams you hear about. Yeah,
it's it's I think more about he wants to be
paid where he just thinks he deserves.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
To be paid.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
And I think that's the big conversation with some of
these guys out there, right, I mean, from all due
accounts of what you hear from people around the league,
a little bit right there was hey, wait, I want
this much money. I want this much money, and then
Aman Ross, Saint Brown and AJ Brown side dude deals
and all of a sudden, the line of demarcation or
what he wanted as far as his new contract changed,
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So I think that changed things as well. The forty
nine ers have a lot of other contracts they're trying
to balance out here. But that's a big question to me, Dan,
and I think it's a little bit with CD Lamb. Listen,
I'm a guy that would sit here and tell you
AJ Brown, Chase Jamar, Chase Tyreek Kill Justin Jefferson. They're
in another class in my opinion, from the rest of
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the NFL. So I don't think anybody should be paid
quite that. But I think that's where really it's, you know,
the rubber hits the road. There is ayutes mad and
he thinks he should be paid up in that category
or somewhere close to it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
We saw the situation unfold overnight ESPN article and the
Eagles that looking back on what happened last season, they
had a great start, they had a terrible finish. Now
you're hearing the relationship between quarterback and coach is not great.
I don't know if it's salvageable. You're bringing a new
offensive coordinator. Where are the Eagles right now in the
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pecking order of teams in the NFC given what we
just read about, Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well, listen to the NFC.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
I don't think has a ton of I would call
super Bowl caliber type of football teams.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Right.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
We got a lot of playoff teams, But I think
when you get into super Bowl caliber teams, the Eagles
are certainly on that short list. Come on, it's an
all star team. It's arguably the best O line in football.
It might be the best duo receivers in football. The
D line's probably the best in football.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
The rest of their defense ain't bad either, So they
got a lot of stuff there that that should not
be acceptable. With the way that you're ended last year,
I think the big thing is, and you hear a
lot of this and listen, I don't know the exact story.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But yeah, there's been issues.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
There is issues, whether it's with how players feel about
Jalen Hurts in the locker room or even Nick Sirianni
in the locker room, there's definitely issues there. So where
there's smoke, there's fire, and I think everybody around the
league kind of knows that, right, Jalen Hurts is not
loved by everybody in the locker room, certainly not. And
I think that Nick Sirianni has some of that same
stuff there in the locker room as well that they're
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dealing with. But their big thing from last year, Dan
was the other coordinators. That was the issue, right Nick
Sirianni moving on to the Indianapolis Colts, he is one
of the best offensive mines in football, and they certainly
had a guy there in Brian Johnson who was not
ready for NFL football offensive coordinator duty. And then we
know on the defensive side of the ball it was
really the same issue. So I expect a better team
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this year because Vic Fangio is as good as it gets,
and then of course we know we got Kevin Winslow there.
I do think it's a step up, right, Kellen Moore sorry,
Kevin Winslow.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
We don't want him.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
No old school. Yeah, it's just weird that a quarterback
goes to the line of scrimmage and he and his
wide receiver decide they're going to go rogue here with
a game on the line in Seattle that you know.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
That was highlight so speaks so a lot, right, yes, right, yes, yeah,
like I.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Would if I ever did that right and did it.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I played the few games that I did with John Gruden,
you would know before I got off the sideline that
I did something wrong and that he would lay into me.
I mean even I remember I was on the phone
with my dad. My dad was at shock. I can't
even imagine doing that. If I did that with ourselves,
Oh my gosh, I don't know if I've been on
the Giants the next day, right, So, yeah, that's certainly
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a disconnect between coach, quarterback and maybe culture altogether.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
There in Philadelphia last year.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We're talking to Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co
host Football Night in America analyst as well. It's gotten
to the point where we look at these quarterbacks and
we're like, yeah, you should start. And it didn't used
to be that way. You needed one two, maybe even
three years before you got in. Now it's c J.
Stroud kind of changed things. I'm not going to say
ruin things, but certainly changed the expectations for Caleb Williams
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and maybe Jaden Daniels this year.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Well one, I'm one that's in favor of always playing
the guy right as long as you feel like he's
somewhat physically and mentally ready to take it, take on
the challenge. To me, the game reps they can't be
emulated in practice no way, right, So that to me
is the most important thing. Definitely, there are cases that
now and then, right Drake may would about being a
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guy up in New England where I go, I don't
know if I feel that way.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
There's mechanical issues, there's decision making issues him.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Might do him some good to sit on the bench
for a year, work on some of those things and
see what the NFL game is all about. But the
rest of the crew, that's why I love them so much.
Coming out in the draft, I thought they were about
his NFL ready as I had seen in a while.
As far as a group of quarterbacks and know how
to play the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Jayde and Daniels Caleb Williams. We know no doubt they're
gonna start.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
It's the other two guys that I think it's It's dicey, right,
you get the bow Knicks. Hey, there's some real talent
and competition there. Jared Sidham's a hell of a player.
He's got starting quarterback caliber traits there, right, But we
know ultimately Sean Payton's gonna want to get his guy.
Bow Nix looks like he could be Drew Brees junior.
All right, So there's that situation. And then who's the
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fourth I'm missing.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
J McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's another one, very similar.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
And Sam Darnold started caliber talent, right, I mean, the
forty nine ers were thoroughly impressed by him last year,
so he's capable of running that offense up there and
making it look good. But I still think ultimately you're
gonna see Kevin McCarthy somewhere in the early part of
the season, if not to start the season when it's
all said and done.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I had a pro personnel person tell me that the
Jets talent level is elite, like that their defense elite.
I mean, there's a lot of great things about the Jets.
But why do I have this question mark on how
good they can be?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I think we got to see the old line, right,
you got to see it to believe it. I think
that's the first thing. We haven't seen a good old
line there in New York on either team and quite
some time. Is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Still who he thinks he is?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I have questions about that. His last year in Green
Bay was not very good, right.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
I mean it is so, and then that last year
not playing at all either, and then being the age
he is and the injury he had, I certainly question that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
To a degree. But everything else, Dan, I mean, it's
top notch there. I mean, we know they got.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Pretty good talented receiver, they got decent tight ends, a
stable of running backs, and the defense is as talented
as it gets in football at all three levels.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
To me.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
The other part with the Jets, Dan, is is scheme.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
It is scheme.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
You know they play that Seattle scheme on defense is
very good, but it doesn't necessarily create turnovers and win
games for them sometimes like Cleveland Browns defense did last year.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Right, They're multiple, they do crazy stuff.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
They had some games their offense played like craft, but
you went, oh my gosh, the defense is gonna win
the game by themselves, and they did that the Jets
because they're so simple there. I wish they were a
little more creative. I think they could get more out
of the defense as far as playmaking. And then of
course we know Nathaniel Hackett and the offense is certainly
a question mark two.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
It's like big time talent, but I'd like to see
a little first before you know, we start pounding the
Super Bowl chant here.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
When do you make your Super Bowl picks?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Probably late August, right like that, right before the that
week before the regular season.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But I've definitely been thinking about it lately.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I certainly have we brought this up on the show.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I did.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Is Eli Manning going to be a first ballot Hall
of Famer?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (25:17):
I don't think he is a first ballot Hall of
Famer type talent. I certainly think he's a Hall of Famer.
But to me, like I'm old school and that first
ballots are like guys where it's like they're in a
special Oh, ray Lewis, we don't have to think about it,
Lawrence Taylor, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
John Elway, what come on, get out of here. You're
in your own special room.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Eli Manning, damn good, We know that, right, But there's
a lot of other things on his resume that I
think you could sit there and go, well, that's not
first ballot Hall of Fame worthy.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Can you be objective? And with the following question who
had a better career Eli or your father?
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Well, you know, I think Eli had a better career
is he got to play in that second Super Bowl
would win it right where my dad, of course had
was hurt in Week fourteen and nineteen ninety and then
they went on and won the Super Bowl with Jeff Hosteller.
So I think that kind of gives the edge to
Eli Manning.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, your dad was a better regular season quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I think my dad was a better talent and a
better player. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
I don't know if his career was good, but I
think when you get into the talent and the player,
and maybe the the talent he had around him on offense,
Like most people my age, can't name one receiver that
played for my dad. Right, you go through the Eli
Manning Giants and you go, damn, it's one All star
after another wide receiver. So there are some things there
that's good conversation. Eli's career is better. But I do
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think Dad was a better player.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I do.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
But if David Tyree drops that ball, is Eli Manning
a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Well, that's a good question. I don't know, b be
right on the line, who would be? Well, he certainly
shouldn't have been the MVP of the Super Bowl. I
know that, sure, somebody on that defense. It's the greatest.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Offense we ever saw ever.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Absolutely, yes, and you know seventeen to fourteen with Brady
and Randy Boss and Wes Welker and crew, that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But U we know Eli certainly had to clutch Gene.
There's no question in that.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Luke Keighley is up for the Hall of Fame, first
ballot Hall of Famer. I think he's Yeah, I do.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I do now because again, Luke Keighley, how many years
did we go through and go, well, the best linebacker
in football is Luke Keigley. Oh, the second best linebacker
is Luke Keighley. That to me, it like jumps out
to you when when you go through a period of
time and there's no doubt you're the one or two
or three best at your position for a consistent or
consistent period of time. That to me is when you
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start talking about first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, it's tricky, and I agree with you. There's certain
players that you say their name and you go all
Hall of Famer, right, And I don't know if that's
the litmus test for who is a first ballot Hall
of Famer. If I just say this name and you respond,
does that mean you're a first ballot Hall of Famer?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I think it usually is. I mean, you know, there
might be a little nuance every now and then, but.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
I think the ones that hit you in the face,
and it goes back to like the Dion Sanders right,
like upper Room that he talks about, I do agree
with him.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
There there's a hall of fame within the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Dion Sanders, Peyton Manning, right, Tom
Brady was in there, right, They're in a little different
class than some of those other people I saw in
the Hall of Fame When I go there and walk
the brown and I.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Don't have any problem if we had a different shade
of gold jacket for first ballot Hall of Famer, Like I.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Think it should be gold.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
It should be a goal literally have a little gold
in it, like the Notre Dame helmet or something.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You gotta suckle some gold down there. They get that
to be in the special room.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I think if you're a first ballot Hall of Famer,
you deserve to be singled out so then people realize
we're all Hall of famers. That guy's a first ballot
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I would agree with that one hundred percent. I would yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Again, you know, there's certain players that just were above
and beyond right, and I think we've named a few
of them throughout time where yeah, I mean again, if
you hear stories about my dad playing the Eagles back
in the day, the first five meetings were like Reggie White,
Reggie White, how do we stop Reggie White? Reggie White,
that's first ballot Hall of Famer? And when I played
against ray Lewis and the Baltimore Ravens, it was a
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very similar conversation.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I always thought Ed Reid was more valuable than ray Lewis.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Well, it's a good conversation. I mean again, there's another guy.
There's no doubt we're talking about right in his own room.
First ballot, Ed was Ed and Troy Polamalo during that
time when you played quarterback, were torture for quarterback because
you were like, wait, why are they here?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
They should be doing this? What is he doing? Are
they telling him to do this? Or is he just freelancing?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Right?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
So they had great instincts and they really knew offense
and what the offense was trying to do.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Really really special player.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Good to talk to you, Bud. We'll talk to you soon,
Thank you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Alright, buddy'd be good. Say how to the guys?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Chris says, high guns. Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live,
co host and contributor to Football Night in America.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
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Speaker 2 (30:18):
He's Blair bust Well, Pro Football Hall of Fame leads
sculptor forty one years doing this. Blair, I mean you
got to put a T in your last name.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
This is what you do.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's bust Well, not bust Well.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, what we're bucking at? That's right?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, where are you right now?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I'm in Utah. I'm in Pleasant Girlve, Utah, my studio.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And then you're surrounded by so who's behind you some
of these busts. There is that John Madden behind you.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, you see, I've got Ronnie Lott, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith,
Shannon Sharp, Ed Reid.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Shouldn't they be in the Hall of Fame? Blair?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
These are yeah, these are my replicas.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh okay, do you have replicas of every bust that
you've sculpted?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Nod selected ones.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
How did you get the John?
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Wow? Great story. I was a running back at b
Y U had some you know, great teams with Mark Wilson,
Jim mcvaan, Steve Young, Andy Reid. My senior year, at
the annual sports Award banquet, I was awarded this Student
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Athlete Award for what I did outside the game. I
didn't play much, but and I did a sculpture of
Jim McMahon and Danny Age. We were all seniors together.
So I've been up a couple of times during the night.
And the guest speaker that night was Bill Walsh, who
had just won his first Super Bowl with the forty
nine ers. After the banquet. He came and grabbed me
(32:07):
and asked me if I would considered doing a sculpture
of he and Eddie de barbelow the owner as a
gift for winning the Super Bowl, And of course I
jumped on that.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
He took me.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
It had me come down to the forty nine ers
first preseason game and they both post for me. But
the season didn't start in nineteen eighty two, that was
a strike year, so coach flew me out to Youngstown,
Ohio to give the bronze to Eddie, and Eddie had
(32:40):
me sit down and he was thanked me up and
down and said, now, what do you want to do
with this talent? And I said, my dream is to
work for the NFL, especially the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
He reached over, picked up the phone, called Pete Elliott,
the director of the Hall, and said, I have a
young man you need to meet. I'll send him right over.
(33:00):
That was forty two years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well good for you. Okay, let's say Luke Keikley next
year gets into the Hall of Fame. When does the
process start for you? It's like, let's do Eli Manning.
So Eli Manning's going in the Hall of fame and
then what is the When does the process start for you?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't know anything before anybody else does. So once
they're announced who they are, I meet him at the
weekend of the Super Bowl along with the staff of
the Hall of Fame. Then we all get together and
the staff will explain what to expect the next six months.
(33:44):
And during that time we measure them for their gold jacket,
their ring, and their bust. So I have a chart
and I fill out the chart and I take kind
of mugshots of different angles. Now I know who they are,
I get ahold of their teams, and I get as
many pictures are like because they have to agent back
when they played and so a different expressions, different hairstyles,
(34:08):
different ages. And so when they come to my studio,
I get it started from those pictures and measurements, so
that when they come it's already kind of things are
in the right place, the right size. So now we
have a picture board. They walk in and I say, okay,
do you want to bite someone's set off? Do you
want to be happy you're there? Or somewhere in between
(34:29):
you and what hairstyle do you want to be? So
we've got to play that back and forth until they
we decide what they want to do. They sit down
and we spend the day talking.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Okay, give me the honest request you've had from a
Hall of Fame inductee.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
The artist, Well, Brandy Moss came in. It was they
were doing sixty thing and he came in looking at
the board and he said, mister Buzzwell, I was looking on.
Disney pulls out a picture of him with this afro.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's this bag, and I just got no, did he
really want an afro that big?
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Oh? He just wanted to shop. Okay, So we ended
up doing corn rolls.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But didn't Dion want to have his bandana on?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah? Yeah, but that's that was set a long time ago.
If Paul Brown doesn't have a hat, and Landry and
and Bud Grant and Joe Gibbs, there's no you know,
we're not doing new rags and skull caps.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, Landry's hat, that would have been awesome though, Blair. Yeah,
maybe a removable hat.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, I did tell I told Dion, I said I
wish I could, But I tell you what, when you
get your coffee of the bust, you can change the
color of that dewer egg every night if you want to.
And so at the induction he turned and said, this
is looking pretty good, but there's something missing and the
command and wraps around the head.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
What's the toughest part of an inductee to get right?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well, the likeness of the eyes and the expression, and
you know that's that's a fun part, but it's it's
also the toughest.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Who has final approval.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Me?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But you pause there, Blair, are you sure you.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Well? I run it by the inductee and their wives.
I guess their wives have the final say and yeah,
so they I'll run it by when I get out
the clay ready and and and then they'll say, you know,
they want to change this or that, or you know,
can can you trim the beard a little bit more?
Or whatever?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Did far of one facial hair?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
I can't remember. He was debating whether he's going to
be smiling or the intense look. I remember that we
were working on the intense look and his wife walked
in and says, you've got to be smiling. So I mean,
that's always going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And then do you measure the gap between the teeth
for Michael straighthand to get it right there.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Well, I got a lot of you know, the press
from New York kept asking how are you going to
do the gap? And I said, it's real tough. I
take a little wire loop and I go like that
and I'm done.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Just a little hole in there?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
How many hours for each one?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I don't start and then finish it and then go
on to the next one. I'm doing them all at
the same time, so I give myself about two months
to do. I do about three or four a year,
and I've got a great team that I've trained to
do the rest of them. Tommy takes every the two weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
How much would it cost if I was going to
have one of me done?
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Lot?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, Well let me get Let's go around the room.
How much do you think Blair is gonna charge me?
Hall of Fame broadcaster Todd How much do you think?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I'm going to say?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
One hundred and twenty five thousand dollars? One hundred and
twenty five Do you see La Marina? Look how amazing
those things are just ahead. Just the head is not
a bodie. It's got six figures for that, Okay, seating?
How much does Blair charge. The Ed Reid bust is
unbelievableed red is awesome. It's phenomenal. Ed Reid the oldest
looking young football player I ever saw.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
Absolutely fantastic. Okay, I'm gonna say twenty five, twenty five,
k Marvin, I'm gonna say fifty fifty. Paully, twenty five
is a good gas. I'm gonna go even twenty maybe.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, he's been.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Doing this forty one years.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I've been doing I wanted forty one years.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
He's the lead sculptor for the Hall of Bame.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I'm the lead broadcaster for America. Okay, Blair, what's the answer.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
It's somewhere between the twenty five and fifty.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I think I should do it. Do you have
time to do this? Blair?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
What do you think I have to do that?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Okay, I think I got to do this, Blair?
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Can can?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Can we talk about these?
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
But we can?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
We can maybe make something happen here.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Got a lot of stories to share, Okay, all.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Right, I I could even come visit now. I'll do
nude too, if that helps you get in. Oh no,
no nudes, okay, because I do a full body if
you wanted me to like, you know, the David. I'll
be the Daniel. Okay, yeah, would you guys pony up
some money though, for this sculpture, for our sculpture of you.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Yeah, we can help pay for your sculpture, yes, Dan,
it would be an honor.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's a team effort. How about a go fund me
for being crowdfund it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, crowdfund Let's see
what we can do. Thanks for being a good sport Blair.
And now I'm serious about doing this? Are you serious
about doing this?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Well, we just got to fit it in somewhere, got
a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
But well, why don't you skip a Hall of Fame
class and just say that you're well, thanks for joining us,
thanks for sharing, Thank you all right, and add the tea.
Add the tea. Blair bust Well bust Well Pro Football
(40:47):
Hall of Fame Lead sculptor and been doing it for
forty one years for the Hall of Fame.
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