August 8, 2024 • 42 mins
NFL insider Sal Paolantonio breaks down the most intriguing story lines as we barrel headlong into the start of the season. And Marvin wins the DP Show shot put contest to celebrate the Olympics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour in this Thursday, Man, what a busy show.
Talk to Dwayne Wade. In the first hour, Charles Barkley
talks some football with Lewis Riddicks, South Palantonio, the mothership
on the Philadelphia Eagles. He'll join us coming up here momentarily.
Quincy Hall yesterday in the four hundred awesome and you
have the men's two hundred meter finals, so you have
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Noahllyles trying to go one hundred and two hundred and
the women's four hundred meter hurdle final.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Men's won ten hurdles.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You got basketball later today, Serbia getting sixteen against Team
USA and the women's team is a seventeen point favorite
against Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Eight seven seven three.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
DP Show Email address dpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle
ADP Show. Just got word that Rowdy Gaines, who is
the voice of Olympic swimming with Dan Hicks. The three
time gold medalist, will retire after the twenty twenty eight
Games in Los Angeles, but his voice is synonymous with
men's swimming and does a wonderful job with Dan Hicks.
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Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of the program. Speaking of the Olympics,
you can experience them like you've never seen them before,
Primetime in Paris, Tonight, NBC and Peacock. It's interesting how
we look at an Olympics. When we do well, when
Team USA does well, we go Man, these Olympics have
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been great. You could still have good Olympics. And maybe
we don't do great, but it can still be a
good Olympics. There's great storylines, but it certainly helps when
Team USA does well. Man, these are great Olympics so far,
But what do we have? Forty eight hours left with competition?
And I think for the most part successful Olympics. I know,
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kind of a rough start there with the opening ceremony.
A couple of swimmers got sick during the triathlon. Did
you see where there was a guy who was in
the triathlon who was trying to prepare for E cole
I and that he was sort of ingesting E cole
I leading up to his event.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
To build up his tolerance.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I guess I don't think that's like the Olympic spirit
of how did you prepare? I basically, you know, sipped
on some sewer water for a little while. I'm ready
to go. Seaton poll question for the final hour is
going to be what it's not recommended, by the way,
it is not the FDA does not recommended.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's not against the rules, but it's not recommended.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Josh Allen is sticking up for his teammates or happy
Stefan Diggs is in Houston right now, sixty nine percent
of the audience say that he is sticking up for
his teammates rather than slamming. Okay, Stefan Diggs. We also
have who would want as your starting quarterback? Russell Wilson
or justin fields right now with seventy eight percent of
the vote.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You want to guess, is that what you were? Justin fields?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, justin fields over Russ.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
This is what happens. Players know before anybody else does.
The Pittsburgh Steeler players see justin fields and they have
no loyalty to Russell Wilson, like they want to win.
Who can help us win, who can take us to
the next level. We're in the most competitive division in football,
and they're seeing justin fields out there and they're not
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seeing Russell Wilson, And all of a sudden you start
to talk, and then everybody else starts to talk, and
all of a sudden, you're going No, Justin Fields does
something that Russ maybe used to do but doesn't do anymore.
Mike Tomlin has no loyalty. He doesn't have loyalty to
Russell Wilson. In fact, he had this to say, He's
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open for business at the quarterbacking position.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Would you still categorize us as a quarterback competition?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
If it is, how do you wait?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
What happens in the practice field here versus what happens
in a stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Very much is a competition.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens
in acte setting because it's more game like.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's open for business here. Once again, they're not invested
financially invested in either of these quarterbacks. Both of these
quarterbacks need this as kind of a jumping off spot.
Again for Justin Field's second chance. For Uss, here's a
third chance for you from Seattle to Denver to here,
and then where do you go from here? If you
want to get another payday. It's hinging on what happens today.
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By the way, I'm watching Officer and a gentleman last night,
very end of the movie.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Obviously, yes, of course, so at the.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Very end of the movie, and I'm immediately looking at
Lou Gossip Junior, who won an Academy Award for that,
and I'm thinking Mike Tomlin when I hear Mike play
Mike Tomlin again, and I for some reason, I was
channeling Lou Gossip Junior.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Would you still categorize this as a quarterback competition? If
it is, how you wait, what happens in the practice
field here versus what happens in a stadium.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Very much is a competition.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens
in a practice setting because it's more game like.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, drop and give me fifty Mayo, Nase, watch your
d R. Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's a fun movie, you know, except for what happens
to is his partner, David.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
David Keith, I would say fun. Uh, I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Does the movie hold up, Paul, Yeah, because we've been
we've been having these moments here where like Seaton said,
The Usual Suspects doesn't hold up the last time he
watched it, and then he watched it again, he goes.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You know, secondly, I think, yeah, I loved it when
I first saw it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I did too, Yeah, loved mister McManus.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
All right, we'll get to finister. Who got flicked the
cigarette in that movie? Stephen Baldwin. He actually got flicked
by the other character. He got hit in the eye
with a cigarette in in the movie, But in real life,
character's name was Redfoot who hit any Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
South Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL for Sports Center.
He is a popular guy and a special new edition
of South Pald's successful book How Football Explains America. You
got contributions, conversations, a lot of influences here, Bill Belichick,
Bence Lombardi, Paul Brown, Bill Parcells, Joe Namath and the
(06:27):
Manning family. South palachining us on the program. All right,
let me start with your Philadelphia Eagles. How did we
get to this point where story comes out? How last
year was a mess? And as we move forward, where
are we with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Well, I think people dan are still trying to figure
out the forensics of what happened in twenty and twenty three.
I mean that the collapse never seen anything like it
before what exactly happened. Congratulations to my colleagues at ESPN
dot com, Tim mcmadison, Jeremy Fowler. I think they did
a good job of really uncovering a lot of new
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information there. But the bottom line is where does the
team go from here and how do they fix it?
How do they repair the relationship between the head coach
and the franchise quarterback. It's going to be a fascinating season.
As a guy who used to wear number eighty one
used to say, get your popcorn ready, Dan, get it ready.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But why the split?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Why is it that the head coach and the quarterback
aren't on or weren't on the same page at the
end of last year.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
You know, it looks like it's x's and o's only
approach on offense. Jalen Hurts. You know, give Jalen Hurts
a little bit of credit here. He's had five different
play callers in his ear since he became the full
time starter. Doug Peterson, Nick Sirianni, Shane Steik, Brian Johnson
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and now Kellen Moore. Five guys. And you know in
year two that they were together with Shane Stike and
calling the plays. They went to the Super Bowl where
three points away from beating Patrick Mahomes in the Super
Bowl last year. You know, they made major changes on
offense and defense, and the offense didn't evolve. Obviously, the
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proof is in the film study. You know, I'm on
the Matchup show. We do a lot of film study
at NFL Films in preparation for that show. And we
also saw it happen in real time. Jalen Hurts brooding
on the sidelines, this guy yappen at that guy. Guys
not wanting to talk to the press after the game
because they didn't want to say something they shouldn't. So
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it happened in real time, and now we're beginning to understand.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Why Jalen Hurts a great quarterback.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
Yes, he's a great quarterback. He's a great quarterback for
this time you were just talking about justin fields. Dan,
We're in a blitzing league. Number one two. Dan, We're
in a league where the highest percentage of games ended
in one score. It's a one score league. It's a
blitzing league. Your quarterback has to be able to you know,
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ski off peacet He's got to be able to make
second reaction throws in second reaction plays. Why do you
think Justin Fields is raising eyebrows and wowing people at Latrobe, Pennsylvania,
at Steelers camp is because he can move like Russell
Wilson used to be able to move. You just made
that comment. That's clear to everybody. You have to have
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a quarterback to get away from the pass rush. The
pass rush has never been more relentless. There's never been
more blitzing in the National Football League. The pass rushers
have never been at a greater premium. They send waves
of bodies after the quarterback. He's got to be able
to run in the first quarter and the fourth quarter.
You look at these Super Bowls, they're all one in
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the fourth quarter. Why did the Niners lose in overtime
Because Brock Purty couldn't get away from Chris Jones. That's
the bottom line. The Niners didn't hold up in their
past protection. So yes, short answer, yes, Jalen Hurts is
a great quarterback for this time in the NFL, and
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he's perfect for what's going on in the league right now.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
How does the NFC East play out, Well.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Here's an interesting thing about the NFC East. Man So
the league, because it's a one score league, and because
teams are overdrafting quarterbacks and missing so much on quarterbacks.
We've never had this much upheaval in the NFL back
to back years where you had near seventy different quarterbacks
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start an NFL game. And now you have a league
where in the off season you had seventeen new offensive coordinators,
sixteen new defensive coordinators, sixteen half the league, including four
new defensive coordinators in the NFC East. Now I've been
covering the NFC East for thirty two years, I can't
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remember a time we had four new defensive coordinators in
the same division in the NFC East like this, if
you're a quarterback, you got to be able to really
study film. Cliff Kingsbury just talked about Jaden Daniels really
being a film study rat and the fact that he's
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very impressed with him in the classroom. And there's a
reason for that. He's got Mike Zimmer coming at him,
he's got Vic Fangio, he's got a new defense in
Shane Bowen in New York. So these quarterbacks in this
division have to be ready for anything at all times,
all four quarters, for every week of the season. And
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I think it's really important right now to have a
quarterback in this division who can get out of the
way of the rush, and I think that's what sets
up the Eagles really well.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We're talking to South paler Antonio, ESPN national correspondent covering
the NFL Sunday NFL Countdown and NFL Live Fantasy Football. Now,
tell us a little bit about the book, the special
new edition of your book, How Football Explains America.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Yeah, thanks for mentioning the book, Dan, I appreciate. I
sent you guys some copies and I'm you know, it's
still August. Get on the beach.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You read it.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
You know, it was really popular when it came out,
and the Triumph Books, my publisher, said hey, let's update
it and re release it. The bottom line is that
the book tries to discover how and why the game
was created and how it evolved through different cultural influences
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in the country, the immigrant influence at the turn of
the century, the military influence in the United States, African
American culture's influence, the influencer television and the sixties, all
through the decades, and how football also influenced those decades
and those events. So we try to take a big
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view of why the game changed and how or why
it was created.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is there kind of a an X marks the spot
of when football became America's pastime? Can you pinpoint a time, moment,
event year.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
People have different answers for that right. Some people say,
you know, Mark Bowden's great book on the Giants and
the Baltimore Cults, and how much of that was you know,
the signpost to make football a television event. Other people
say it was Nameth Super Bowl three. Bottom line to me,
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it was the Packers in the sixties, the way that
Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr the Green Bay Packers dominated
the game and made it appointment viewing on CBS television
right after, right before sixty minutes, and how you know,
it was just the place you went to see sports,
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especially the NFL. I think was very, very big. I
think that was an important point too.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, because Joe Namath made it more than just a
football game. He's probably the first guy who made it
more than just Hey, it's this underdog. Now you had
David versus Goliath. Nobody was given the AFL credit. Who's
this guy, Joe Namath, brash guy, good looking guy.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Now all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It just felt like the ground swell was different than
here comes the Packers sweep or bart Star to you know,
Boyd Dowler, No.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Namath was super important. I mean, Sports Illustrated is about
to put out the fifty most important games in NFL history.
And the editors asked me to write the blurb on
the first Monday night football game, the Jets versus the
Rounds with Joe Namath. And the way I wrote the blurb, Dan,
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I hope the editors don't get mad, I'm giving it
away a little bit. I said, wait, what did my
old man just tell me? I get to stay up
at nine o'clock and I get to watch NFL football
and oh, by the way, it's the messiah Joe Namath
on television on my television set at night. I get
to stay up after the Waltons and watch football.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
At you know. But the thing is about Nameath.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He didn't have a great career, but he went into
the Hall of Fame because he won that one game.
Because if you look, Lenny Dawson was a better quarterback
than Joe Namath. If you look at the numbers, team
success in my opinion, but Joe went in that game
was so important. That's why I think he went into
the Hall of Fame because he beat the Colts.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sure, it's like saying Jimmy Hendrix is a better guitar
player than George Harrison, but hey, Harrison goes into the
whole thing. But you know, Namath is the only quarterback
to win Super Bowl MVP without throwing a touchdown. Passing
a Super.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Bowl yeah, sixteen to seven the final there, yeah, yeah,
who was it, Mats Matt Snell scored the touchdown?
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Matt Snell? Correct?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Or correct Johnny sample with those with those interceptions on the.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Back of the end zone number twenty four.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, And I always felt bad the impact that had
on Johnny Unitas as well and Earl Morrile because the
Colts were the big, bad, you know, but slower. You
know that the Jets were the sleeker. And I love
the AFL.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Love the AFL, oh God, absolutely loved it. But you
know this the contrast between Bart Starr. He was John
Glenn in a crew cut and then here comes Joe Namath,
and it was it was like the sixties writ large.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But you have the AFL. The NFL is like the
AFL now, just like the NBA is a lot like
the ABA was. So these these secondary leagues are you're
not as good as us? They ended up adopting a
lot of that. And if you watch the AFL, it
was a passing league. Yeah, they were up and down
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the field.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It was great.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah. You know, I went to the Long Island Arena
to watch the nets and I could never have my game,
sort of feel like Julia Servings. So I chose Billy Paultz.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Who was the thumper?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Was that his name or Wopper Wopper Mopper thumper, Billy Poltz. Uh,
we'll talk to you during the season. Great to catch
up with you again. Good luck with the book. It's
How Football Explains America From South pal Antonio.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Thank you, buddy. Okay you Dan Soupal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Watching the AFL now, I grew up Cleveland Browns fan,
and because we had Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly. But to
be able to watch the AFL when I went to
move to Cincinnati and the Bengals got their franchise and
we didn't go to watch the Bengals, we watched the
team the Bengals were playing.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
God, I love the AFL. It was just you were
bombing they were throwing deep loved it all right, Well
take a break, come back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (19:12):
He's a guy with small hands but a big heart.
How about a round of applause for Marvin he won
the shot put contest here? Yeah, Mark, Wow, big shoulders there, Yeah,
big shoulders carrying a show. We did the shot put
the last two hours. We needed an hour in between
to recover. You guys, are your shoulders are going to
be on fire later on going to be Yeah, they're
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on fire now.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So Seaton got the silver, Marv the gold, and Paulie
and I agreed that we tied for the bronze.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Didn't the high jumpers do this the last Olympics where
they're like, uh, we both tied, Okay, let's hug it out.
We didn't want to put off so Todd, Oh, yeah,
I didn't want to. I didn't want to get that
shot put again. Sixteen pound shot put. Todd respectable the
second time around. First time around was not good, not good.
Went you dribbled it about maybe three.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Feet though very much in the last place.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes you were, Yes, you were, but respectably last once again,
your last in this event.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You're still one of the best in the world.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Personal best, Yes, I threw your personal best are yeah,
personal records.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Uh. Todd wants to provide Olympic themed meat Friday. So
we're trying to come up with recipe inspirations for Tyler
tomorrow on the trigger. Do you have some these?
Speaker 10 (20:28):
We did the onion rings and the gold you competators,
how about medallions of beef.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Met old and medallions of beef. Okay, butterfly steaks, steaks
presented in butterfly fashion.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
That's kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I think it's I think it's shrimp. I thought they
butterfly your steak, right, I think they I think they
do that with the shrimp. I don't know if they
do with that with this steak salad. One thousand island dressage.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Wheaties.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Can you do anything with leading me? Sprinkle it on
the on something and a bad mutton.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Mutt mutton well mutton letuce and tomato sandwich muttains.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
All right, Thank you to uh Luke and Charlotte Luke.
Thanks for holding bud. What do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (21:19):
Hey, guys, return of the steeple chase apologists here. I
just wanted to give you guys props for keeping up
the good word talking.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
About the best event in the world.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
What an electric race it was last night, had one
of the front runners getting a face full of track
in the last two hundred meters USA slipping the silver
medal in there. It's everything you could have dreamed for.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Thanks, have a good week.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Thank you Luke. Yeah, we've come in.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It feels like every morning and we're like we just
noticed some event and Todd goes, you know that one
where you jump over something and then you there's a
puddle of water and I go this steeple chase.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
He said, yeah, why are they landed like a little
foot pile of water. It's so bizarre. Chico in Baltimore,
Hey Chico, Hey Dan.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
These Olympics, some of them, don't you know that they
should remove skateboarding and remove stuff like mountain climbing.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
And I mean mountain tming and mountains that yeah, removed that,
remove breakdancing and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, they're trying to get younger audiences. That's why they
went to the X Games events because they the Olympics
were getting too old, they were aging out. And to
get a younger audience, a bigger audience than you have
to have, you have to have more than just swimming
in gymnastics. You want to make sure that you have
other events there. And if it's you know, snowboarding, the
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different types of events that they have there, even skateboarding
now Seeton, you may think differently because this is you know,
a fringe kind of counterculture type sports that you know,
the the skateboarders that do they want to be in
the Olympics. Is important to be in the Olympics with skateboarding,
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even break dancing. Every host country gets to have a
couple of events that they want to put in, Like
lacrosse is going to be in the LA Olympics. It's
not in all the Olympics, but you get a couple
that you want to put in. Your thoughts on skateboarding
in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Oh yeah, I think it's awesome, absolutely, and I mean honestly,
I think if you're going to have, uh, I don't
a room for synchronized swimming or swim dancing whatever they're
calling it now, which is very impressive to think that
those people are doing that while swimming.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
However, swansing, they're swansing.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I mean, we can make room for people to do
that on skateboards too.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm fine with it. But I know what the philosophy
is of the IOC. They need to get younger, have
younger audiences care about the Olympics, because the Olympics where well,
my mom and dad want to see the Olympics. It
might not be as important to younger kids, but it
is with the gymnastics is really important. Swimming as big
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as well, but it's the other kind of peripheral sports
that you're going to have people who might watch that
wouldn't normally watch now. I remember when it felt like
the Olympics were trying to adopt some of the X
Games events, and there were participants in the X Games
who did not want the Olympics to adopt or you know,
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kind of absorb their event or their sport.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, Seed, there's always going to be that sort of
like counter culture nature to it, right, and like a
certain street level fashion sense to it that will always
be there. However, sports like skateboarding in particular, their popularity
sort of ebbs and flows, and like once a decade
it gets really popular and then goes away for another
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eight years or something. So in order for people to
really make a living skateboarding, you kind of need you
can't depend on the X Games because the X Games
is eventually going to run out of cash too, you know.
I mean even you see how it's downsized over the
years now, it's really not nearly the same as what
it was. So if you need money flowing into that sport,
and every four years you can have a reminder that, yeah, nigeh.
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Houston is still killing it, then that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I remember when the X Games were hatched.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I was at the Mother ship and all of a sudden,
I remember talking to one of the executives and he
even said, he goes, I came up with this idea.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And he said, what's the idea, he goes.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Which probably doesn't interest you, but it's gonna it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
To your kids.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I said, okay, and then he started to explain the
X Games, and then I go, all right. I didn't
think that it would grow in metastasized to what it became,
because it there was a time when the X Games
felt like it was rivaling the Olympics, you know, certainly
here in the United States, but then you had all
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these other countries that wanted to be involved in the
X Games, and now you have Winter Acts, Summer Acts,
and it was a big deal. But I just remember,
you know, I'm never good on those ideas. When they go, hey,
you know what we're thinking of doing, I'll be like, yeah,
good luck with that.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Ninety five, yeah yeah, wow, And I was, you know,
that was the peak of my Sports Center days, and
I just remember it felt like ESPN couldn't do anything wrong.
That whatever ESPN was going to do, Remember, they had
the like the Lumberjack games where they were throwing.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Awesome, they're cutting down trees.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And they're throwing knives and whatever they were doing, and
I go, sure, people will watch, And I think that
was successful for a while. Paulie and I during the
commercial break, we were trying to pinpoint when the NFL
sort of grabbed the baton from baseball and maybe college
basketball and said, no, no, we're see you. We're the
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sport America's pastime. And you could probably pinpoint at least
the breadcrumbs start with Joe Namath in Super Bowl three
guaranteeing that they were going to beat the big bad
Baltimore Colts and they were seventeen to eighteen point underdogs there.
And Joe Namath was different than anybody else. He had
the white shoes, you know, a fur length of a
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full length fur coat, had the long hair, had you know,
haircut style like the Beatles, and the way through the
football he was always, you know, with beautiful women, so
he became more than just a football player. It became
this social feeling, this wave that kind of hit the
NFL and then they pulled off the upset. So if
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you start there, then you had the Kansas City Chiefs
they ended up winning the Super Bowl the next year.
Then it felt like, Okay, the AFL is here, Now
what's the NFL going to do?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And you could.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Probably go from that to nineteen eighty four with Dan
Marino if that sounds that he was that was different
than anything we'd ever seen, Like Joe Namath was stylistic.
Dan Marino changed the game, He changed the sport by
his you know, five wide doesn't need a running back
and he's just going to carve you up. And he
(28:17):
just threw the ball differently than anybody else. So if
you kind of start there, then I get the eighty
five Bears, I get the Giants in eighty six. Now
all of a sudden, I've got some momentum. I've got storylines.
You got to have the draft in there, mel Kiper's
in there, Chris Berman's in there. Fantasy football was taking
off in the early eighties, and it just felt like
(28:39):
there was a five or six year window where it
was like, we've got everything we need. Now make sure
you get as much exposure TV wise.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, Martin Madden Football Game.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, Yeah, that's a big call too. Yeah, there's there's
a handful of people that you can say, you know,
they help bring the game into the forefront, changed the game.
But I would start with name it because I remember
watching the NFL growing up, and you know, Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders,
you can put them in there as well.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It became more of a spectacle than just watching.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Three yards in a cloud of dust or new stadiums.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Dallas had that new stadium had the hole in the roof.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I mean we were like, oh my god, why would
you build a stadium and then have a hole in
the roof so God can see the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I was like, sure, why not.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Didn't know he loved the Cowboys, but apparently he does
pretty good line.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah it is Green Bay Packers, just Vince Lombardi. They
were dominant.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Jerry Kramer came out with Instant Replay and that was
kind of behind the scenes where we haven't really read something.
North Dallas forty book that came out kind of gave
you really the dirty details of what goes on in
professional football. So there was you know, there were a
variety of characters, storylines, teams, events, moments, and you put
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it all together and then the NFL has never looked back.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah. Mark NFL films also with the Sables.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Good call back to back Blue Blue. Yeah, NFL films
was huge because we didn't get to see all the games.
If you didn't watch Monday Night Football where Howard Cosell
would do the highlights and that was must see. I
got to stay up until Howard was done with the
highlights and then all of a sudden, all right, time
to go to bed. Didn't get to see the second half,
(30:35):
but your team might have been on the halftime highlights
with Howard goes sou You're like, we made it. The
Bengals made it. Pauli said that there is a career
NFL career that just came to an end. He said,
it's a very odd career to quantify. One of the
(30:55):
more fascinating NFL careers is over.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Okay, I'll give you a series of hints. Okay, this
player played for six teams, one team twice, so you
could characterize him as a journeyman.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
However, this quarterback also had a season his second season
in the league. He threw for twenty seven touchdowns and
only two picks, one of the greatest seasons stat wise
in NFL history, twenty seven to two.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So not Nick Foles it's Nick Foles.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
Six teams, a backup for most of his career, different places.
He also has a Super Bowl MVP versus Tom Brady. Yeah,
he's not even in danger at all of sniffing the
Hall of Fame. No, but he's what a fascinating career.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, go toe to toe with Tom Brady, lived
to tell about it. But I think when Chip Kelly
was there and his offense and Nick Foles embraced it
and vice versa, and that was pretty impressive showing yes, Mark.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The crazy part about that is that may have been
Tom Brady his best Super Bowl performance.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
He threw for five hundred yards. They didn't punt. That's
the one Bill threw. Oh do you think Belichick threw
that one? Belichick threw that one. That's a loss on Bill,
not on Tom. Accurate.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, can we say that, yeah, but yeah, Nick Foles,
that's pretty fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
M Would you say he had a great career? Great? No,
but interesting? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I think he would say he had a great career though, right,
I mean not great in this sense that we're talking
about like Joe Montana great, but like hell, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
He had fifty eight career starts. I did well, he was.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
His record is winning percentages five hundred courtse But of
all of the quarterbacks who went against Tom Brady, did
anybody have better numbers than Nick Foles? Because Eli didn't
have great eight numbers. He had great moments. I don't
(33:02):
know if he had huge numbers there.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Pauline Fowles was twenty eight to forty three three seventy three,
three touchdowns and a pick us Tom.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Brady and a touchdown reception. Correct, Brady did not catch
a pass, but one was thrown to him that day.
Oh my god. Twenty eight to forty eight five.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
The Eagles Trada by the way, Yes, yeah, Brady was
twenty eight to forty eight, five hundred and five yards,
three touchdowns, no.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Pick, Yeah, thankes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
When you're down on the field and I'm we're setting
up because I'm handing out the Super Bowl Trophy right
after that to the Eagles, and you're watching Brady go
back to pass and he gets sacked and uh, it
happened so fast in front of you. But when you're
watching on TV, you're like Tom, you can see the rush.
(33:51):
When you're down on the field. I'm right behind Brady
in the end zone. And it happens so quick.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's just it's.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Mind boggling that you're he's seeing what he sees. We
see it because we're up above and we're looking at it, going, oh,
he's wide open. Tom's doing it well.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
They all do it in real time and it's moving
real fast, and I remember, God, don't give Brady another shot.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And even then we still thought he could still win
that game against the Eagles, just like against the Giants
when he had one more shot and he was trying
to throw it to Gronk in the end zone. Watching
the game from the sidelines is fascinating, just because TV
does not do it justice. It slows everything down, it
keeps it in frame focus here down there on the field,
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and you're like, who's he throwing it to? And I
remember being on the sidelines when Eli has the pass
to Mario Manningham right in front of me, and I'm going,
I don't know how he possibly saw that, and that
he caught it as well, Like it was just wild
because you see the ball and I who's he throwing it?
(35:01):
And then all of a sudden it's perfectly placed. Whatever
they get paid, they're worth it. We'll take a break,
last call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in
store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern,
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Speaker 2 (35:24):
Last Call for phone Calls, What we learn, What's in
store tomorrow? The Great Bob Costas will stop by the
program close up Sean Pierre eight seven to seven, three
DP show, Big Track and Field Day. A little bit
later on, we'll, of course recap everything tomorrow. BMCAA. Well,
did they hammer Jim Harball or the memory of Jim Harball,
(35:46):
because Jim Harball now with the Chargers. I don't know
if this four year punishment is really going to matter
to Jim Harball. Why don't they say to Jim Harball,
if and when you come back to college football, it's
four years now.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Now it's a punishment. Now you won't come back.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
But at least you're saying something that could impact him,
as opposed to this doesn't impact him. I don't know
is this going to hurt his legacy that what he
did in twenty twenty one where recruiting violations like the
Big One is the cheating scandal Connor Stallions, that's the
one we care about, not this one. This was during
the title season. This happened, That's what we care about.
(36:28):
But the NCAA, all right, you're kind of punishing him,
but then you're kind of not. Let's see Eddie and Ohio.
Hi Eddie, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (36:41):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Now Dpno, Hey, so, I guess I'm the second biggest
Steeplechase fan because I heard the biggest calling earlier. But
the steeple chase was actually a horse race in the beginning,
and the water hazard was meant to some when the
horse riders would have to navigate you know, small rivers
(37:04):
or creeks or stuff like that on their fight from
one steeple to be another. One reason I know any
of this is because when I was running in high school,
I claimed I was going to be the first person
in history to ever catch the people until I did
my research and found out if you're not actually chasing anything.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Thank you, Eddie, Greg and Sarasota. Hi Greg, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You brought up Howard Cosell, the great voice of NFL passed,
and I just wish you could come back from the
grave and just call one dolphin.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
Game for me.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Could you imagine two tongos by loop? Thank you, Greg. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Cosell always like almost like Stephen A does with Michael Olawa, Candy.
Who is the other name that steven A would slavo?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Can't play download, can't play outside, can't play.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But Howard cose I think a lot of what steven
A does, or I shouldn't say a lot, but some
of it is sampling what Howard Cosell did and how
he did it. Having an opinion. You know, Howard was
had opinions on everything. It wasn't just sports, and so
does steven A. But stare bitch eighte syllables. I remember
(38:22):
doing an NBA draft with steven A and we're trying
to sum up what the Portland Trail Blazers were doing,
and he basically said, I got nothing to say. I
don't know what the Blazers are doing and I don't
know if they do either. And I'm going, wait, we're
supposed to be giving analysis on this. You can't just
tap out. But I remember he was like, I don't
(38:43):
know what they're doing. Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Brian in California, Hi, Bry what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (38:50):
Five? Yeah. I was listening to the comparison and looking
back on Nick Foles's career on how many different examples
he had to go through, and I got the no
risk it, no biscuit arions quote for that guy. But
I was wondering if you would as his career anywhere
(39:11):
near Dan Marino's because he has a ring and Dan doesn't.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
No, no, I would take Dan Marino's career even Nick
winning a Super Bowl against Tom Brady. Dan Marino changed
the position. How many quarterbacks in history have changed the position.
Peyton certainly did, Dan Marino certainly did. Now you can
(39:36):
say Joe Montana because of the West Coast offense, but
that's Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. How many quarterbacks did
Brett Farv change it from being sort of that hey
gunslinger type. I guess Tom Brady change it, made a
running game out of his passing game.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Are there five to seven, maybe seven to ten quarterbacks
who changed and Dan Marino there was nothing like that.
There was nobody like Dan Marino. And he was brash
his second year. I mean, you're throwing for five thousand yards.
That was unheard of Hey, we're gonna have everybody up
(40:21):
five wide. You know, we're going to pass the ball
and we're going to continue to do it. And back
then it wasn't just short passes. Duper and Clayton were
going deep and it was fun. This day in sports
history Paul.
Speaker 10 (40:31):
Nineteen or three. Joe McGinty, speaking of sore shoulders of
New York, pitched two complete games in one day. He
won them both, and ninety two the Dream Team clinched
the gold medal. They beat Croatia one seventeen eighty five.
Bonus coverage Fritzy nineteen ninety eight, Paul Malader got his
five hundredth stolen base.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeh, Molly all back Halder expert Todd, Fritz Todd.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
What'd you learn today?
Speaker 10 (40:54):
Charles Barkley would argue that Jason Tatum's game is better
than bam lebron Nkd's.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
He's also worried about the Serbia game game the shift
to do see No Connor, Charles has no idea what's
going on either?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah with TNT after this year, Marvin Chuck is not
working every night, No, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour in this Thursday, Man, what a busy show.
Talk to Dwayne Wade. In the first hour, Charles Barkley
talks some football with Lewis Riddicks, South Palantonio, the mothership
on the Philadelphia Eagles. He'll join us coming up here momentarily.
Quincy Hall yesterday in the four hundred awesome and you
have the men's two hundred meter finals, so you have
(00:26):
Noahllyles trying to go one hundred and two hundred and
the women's four hundred meter hurdle final.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Men's won ten hurdles.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You got basketball later today, Serbia getting sixteen against Team
USA and the women's team is a seventeen point favorite
against Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Eight seven seven three.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
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ADP Show. Just got word that Rowdy Gaines, who is
the voice of Olympic swimming with Dan Hicks. The three
time gold medalist, will retire after the twenty twenty eight
Games in Los Angeles, but his voice is synonymous with
men's swimming and does a wonderful job with Dan Hicks.
(01:09):
Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of the program. Speaking of the Olympics,
you can experience them like you've never seen them before,
Primetime in Paris, Tonight, NBC and Peacock. It's interesting how
we look at an Olympics. When we do well, when
Team USA does well, we go Man, these Olympics have
(01:31):
been great. You could still have good Olympics. And maybe
we don't do great, but it can still be a
good Olympics. There's great storylines, but it certainly helps when
Team USA does well. Man, these are great Olympics so far,
But what do we have? Forty eight hours left with competition?
And I think for the most part successful Olympics. I know,
(01:51):
kind of a rough start there with the opening ceremony.
A couple of swimmers got sick during the triathlon. Did
you see where there was a guy who was in
the triathlon who was trying to prepare for E cole
I and that he was sort of ingesting E cole
I leading up to his event.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
To build up his tolerance.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I guess I don't think that's like the Olympic spirit
of how did you prepare? I basically, you know, sipped
on some sewer water for a little while. I'm ready
to go. Seaton poll question for the final hour is
going to be what it's not recommended, by the way,
it is not the FDA does not recommended.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's not against the rules, but it's not recommended.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Josh Allen is sticking up for his teammates or happy
Stefan Diggs is in Houston right now, sixty nine percent
of the audience say that he is sticking up for
his teammates rather than slamming. Okay, Stefan Diggs. We also
have who would want as your starting quarterback? Russell Wilson
or justin fields right now with seventy eight percent of
the vote.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You want to guess, is that what you were? Justin fields?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, justin fields over Russ.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
This is what happens. Players know before anybody else does.
The Pittsburgh Steeler players see justin fields and they have
no loyalty to Russell Wilson, like they want to win.
Who can help us win, who can take us to
the next level. We're in the most competitive division in football,
and they're seeing justin fields out there and they're not
(03:22):
seeing Russell Wilson, And all of a sudden you start
to talk, and then everybody else starts to talk, and
all of a sudden, you're going No, Justin Fields does
something that Russ maybe used to do but doesn't do anymore.
Mike Tomlin has no loyalty. He doesn't have loyalty to
Russell Wilson. In fact, he had this to say, He's
(03:43):
open for business at the quarterbacking position.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Would you still categorize us as a quarterback competition?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
If it is, how do you wait?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
What happens in the practice field here versus what happens
in a stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Very much is a competition.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens
in acte setting because it's more game like.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's open for business here. Once again, they're not invested
financially invested in either of these quarterbacks. Both of these
quarterbacks need this as kind of a jumping off spot.
Again for Justin Field's second chance. For Uss, here's a
third chance for you from Seattle to Denver to here,
and then where do you go from here? If you
want to get another payday. It's hinging on what happens today.
(04:26):
By the way, I'm watching Officer and a gentleman last night,
very end of the movie.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Obviously, yes, of course, so at the.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Very end of the movie, and I'm immediately looking at
Lou Gossip Junior, who won an Academy Award for that,
and I'm thinking Mike Tomlin when I hear Mike play
Mike Tomlin again, and I for some reason, I was
channeling Lou Gossip Junior.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Would you still categorize this as a quarterback competition? If
it is, how you wait, what happens in the practice
field here versus what happens in a stadium.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Very much is a competition.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens
in a practice setting because it's more game like.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, drop and give me fifty Mayo, Nase, watch your
d R. Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's a fun movie, you know, except for what happens
to is his partner, David.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
David Keith, I would say fun. Uh, I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Does the movie hold up, Paul, Yeah, because we've been
we've been having these moments here where like Seaton said,
The Usual Suspects doesn't hold up the last time he
watched it, and then he watched it again, he goes.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You know, secondly, I think, yeah, I loved it when
I first saw it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I did too, Yeah, loved mister McManus.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
All right, we'll get to finister. Who got flicked the
cigarette in that movie? Stephen Baldwin. He actually got flicked
by the other character. He got hit in the eye
with a cigarette in in the movie, But in real life,
character's name was Redfoot who hit any Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
South Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL for Sports Center.
He is a popular guy and a special new edition
of South Pald's successful book How Football Explains America. You
got contributions, conversations, a lot of influences here, Bill Belichick,
Bence Lombardi, Paul Brown, Bill Parcells, Joe Namath and the
(06:27):
Manning family. South palachining us on the program. All right,
let me start with your Philadelphia Eagles. How did we
get to this point where story comes out? How last
year was a mess? And as we move forward, where
are we with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Well, I think people dan are still trying to figure
out the forensics of what happened in twenty and twenty three.
I mean that the collapse never seen anything like it
before what exactly happened. Congratulations to my colleagues at ESPN
dot com, Tim mcmadison, Jeremy Fowler. I think they did
a good job of really uncovering a lot of new
(07:10):
information there. But the bottom line is where does the
team go from here and how do they fix it?
How do they repair the relationship between the head coach
and the franchise quarterback. It's going to be a fascinating season.
As a guy who used to wear number eighty one
used to say, get your popcorn ready, Dan, get it ready.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But why the split?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Why is it that the head coach and the quarterback
aren't on or weren't on the same page at the
end of last year.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
You know, it looks like it's x's and o's only
approach on offense. Jalen Hurts. You know, give Jalen Hurts
a little bit of credit here. He's had five different
play callers in his ear since he became the full
time starter. Doug Peterson, Nick Sirianni, Shane Steik, Brian Johnson
(08:03):
and now Kellen Moore. Five guys. And you know in
year two that they were together with Shane Stike and
calling the plays. They went to the Super Bowl where
three points away from beating Patrick Mahomes in the Super
Bowl last year. You know, they made major changes on
offense and defense, and the offense didn't evolve. Obviously, the
(08:25):
proof is in the film study. You know, I'm on
the Matchup show. We do a lot of film study
at NFL Films in preparation for that show. And we
also saw it happen in real time. Jalen Hurts brooding
on the sidelines, this guy yappen at that guy. Guys
not wanting to talk to the press after the game
because they didn't want to say something they shouldn't. So
(08:47):
it happened in real time, and now we're beginning to understand.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Why Jalen Hurts a great quarterback.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
Yes, he's a great quarterback. He's a great quarterback for
this time you were just talking about justin fields. Dan,
We're in a blitzing league. Number one two. Dan, We're
in a league where the highest percentage of games ended
in one score. It's a one score league. It's a
blitzing league. Your quarterback has to be able to you know,
(09:17):
ski off peacet He's got to be able to make
second reaction throws in second reaction plays. Why do you
think Justin Fields is raising eyebrows and wowing people at Latrobe, Pennsylvania,
at Steelers camp is because he can move like Russell
Wilson used to be able to move. You just made
that comment. That's clear to everybody. You have to have
(09:40):
a quarterback to get away from the pass rush. The
pass rush has never been more relentless. There's never been
more blitzing in the National Football League. The pass rushers
have never been at a greater premium. They send waves
of bodies after the quarterback. He's got to be able
to run in the first quarter and the fourth quarter.
You look at these Super Bowls, they're all one in
(10:03):
the fourth quarter. Why did the Niners lose in overtime
Because Brock Purty couldn't get away from Chris Jones. That's
the bottom line. The Niners didn't hold up in their
past protection. So yes, short answer, yes, Jalen Hurts is
a great quarterback for this time in the NFL, and
(10:24):
he's perfect for what's going on in the league right now.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
How does the NFC East play out, Well.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Here's an interesting thing about the NFC East. Man So
the league, because it's a one score league, and because
teams are overdrafting quarterbacks and missing so much on quarterbacks.
We've never had this much upheaval in the NFL back
to back years where you had near seventy different quarterbacks
(10:54):
start an NFL game. And now you have a league
where in the off season you had seventeen new offensive coordinators,
sixteen new defensive coordinators, sixteen half the league, including four
new defensive coordinators in the NFC East. Now I've been
covering the NFC East for thirty two years, I can't
(11:17):
remember a time we had four new defensive coordinators in
the same division in the NFC East like this, if
you're a quarterback, you got to be able to really
study film. Cliff Kingsbury just talked about Jaden Daniels really
being a film study rat and the fact that he's
(11:37):
very impressed with him in the classroom. And there's a
reason for that. He's got Mike Zimmer coming at him,
he's got Vic Fangio, he's got a new defense in
Shane Bowen in New York. So these quarterbacks in this
division have to be ready for anything at all times,
all four quarters, for every week of the season. And
(11:58):
I think it's really important right now to have a
quarterback in this division who can get out of the
way of the rush, and I think that's what sets
up the Eagles really well.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We're talking to South paler Antonio, ESPN national correspondent covering
the NFL Sunday NFL Countdown and NFL Live Fantasy Football. Now,
tell us a little bit about the book, the special
new edition of your book, How Football Explains America.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Yeah, thanks for mentioning the book, Dan, I appreciate. I
sent you guys some copies and I'm you know, it's
still August. Get on the beach.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You read it.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
You know, it was really popular when it came out,
and the Triumph Books, my publisher, said hey, let's update
it and re release it. The bottom line is that
the book tries to discover how and why the game
was created and how it evolved through different cultural influences
(12:55):
in the country, the immigrant influence at the turn of
the century, the military influence in the United States, African
American culture's influence, the influencer television and the sixties, all
through the decades, and how football also influenced those decades
and those events. So we try to take a big
(13:17):
view of why the game changed and how or why
it was created.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is there kind of a an X marks the spot
of when football became America's pastime? Can you pinpoint a time, moment,
event year.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
People have different answers for that right. Some people say,
you know, Mark Bowden's great book on the Giants and
the Baltimore Cults, and how much of that was you know,
the signpost to make football a television event. Other people
say it was Nameth Super Bowl three. Bottom line to me,
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it was the Packers in the sixties, the way that
Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr the Green Bay Packers dominated
the game and made it appointment viewing on CBS television
right after, right before sixty minutes, and how you know,
it was just the place you went to see sports,
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especially the NFL. I think was very, very big. I
think that was an important point too.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, because Joe Namath made it more than just a
football game. He's probably the first guy who made it
more than just Hey, it's this underdog. Now you had
David versus Goliath. Nobody was given the AFL credit. Who's
this guy, Joe Namath, brash guy, good looking guy.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Now all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It just felt like the ground swell was different than
here comes the Packers sweep or bart Star to you know,
Boyd Dowler, No.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Namath was super important. I mean, Sports Illustrated is about
to put out the fifty most important games in NFL history.
And the editors asked me to write the blurb on
the first Monday night football game, the Jets versus the
Rounds with Joe Namath. And the way I wrote the blurb, Dan,
(15:12):
I hope the editors don't get mad, I'm giving it
away a little bit. I said, wait, what did my
old man just tell me? I get to stay up
at nine o'clock and I get to watch NFL football
and oh, by the way, it's the messiah Joe Namath
on television on my television set at night. I get
to stay up after the Waltons and watch football.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
At you know. But the thing is about Nameath.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He didn't have a great career, but he went into
the Hall of Fame because he won that one game.
Because if you look, Lenny Dawson was a better quarterback
than Joe Namath. If you look at the numbers, team
success in my opinion, but Joe went in that game
was so important. That's why I think he went into
the Hall of Fame because he beat the Colts.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Sure, it's like saying Jimmy Hendrix is a better guitar
player than George Harrison, but hey, Harrison goes into the
whole thing. But you know, Namath is the only quarterback
to win Super Bowl MVP without throwing a touchdown. Passing
a Super.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Bowl yeah, sixteen to seven the final there, yeah, yeah,
who was it, Mats Matt Snell scored the touchdown?
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Matt Snell? Correct?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Or correct Johnny sample with those with those interceptions on the.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Back of the end zone number twenty four.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, And I always felt bad the impact that had
on Johnny Unitas as well and Earl Morrile because the
Colts were the big, bad, you know, but slower. You
know that the Jets were the sleeker. And I love
the AFL.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Love the AFL, oh God, absolutely loved it. But you
know this the contrast between Bart Starr. He was John
Glenn in a crew cut and then here comes Joe Namath,
and it was it was like the sixties writ large.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But you have the AFL. The NFL is like the
AFL now, just like the NBA is a lot like
the ABA was. So these these secondary leagues are you're
not as good as us? They ended up adopting a
lot of that. And if you watch the AFL, it
was a passing league. Yeah, they were up and down
(17:29):
the field.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It was great.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah. You know, I went to the Long Island Arena
to watch the nets and I could never have my game,
sort of feel like Julia Servings. So I chose Billy Paultz.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Who was the thumper?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Was that his name or Wopper Wopper Mopper thumper, Billy Poltz. Uh,
we'll talk to you during the season. Great to catch
up with you again. Good luck with the book. It's
How Football Explains America From South pal Antonio.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Thank you, buddy. Okay you Dan Soupal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Watching the AFL now, I grew up Cleveland Browns fan,
and because we had Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly. But to
be able to watch the AFL when I went to
move to Cincinnati and the Bengals got their franchise and
we didn't go to watch the Bengals, we watched the
team the Bengals were playing.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
God, I love the AFL. It was just you were
bombing they were throwing deep loved it all right, Well
take a break, come back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (19:12):
He's a guy with small hands but a big heart.
How about a round of applause for Marvin he won
the shot put contest here? Yeah, Mark, Wow, big shoulders there, Yeah,
big shoulders carrying a show. We did the shot put
the last two hours. We needed an hour in between
to recover. You guys, are your shoulders are going to
be on fire later on going to be Yeah, they're
(19:34):
on fire now.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So Seaton got the silver, Marv the gold, and Paulie
and I agreed that we tied for the bronze.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Didn't the high jumpers do this the last Olympics where
they're like, uh, we both tied, Okay, let's hug it out.
We didn't want to put off so Todd, Oh, yeah,
I didn't want to. I didn't want to get that
shot put again. Sixteen pound shot put. Todd respectable the
second time around. First time around was not good, not good.
Went you dribbled it about maybe three.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Feet though very much in the last place.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes you were, Yes, you were, but respectably last once again,
your last in this event.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You're still one of the best in the world.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Personal best, Yes, I threw your personal best are yeah,
personal records.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Uh. Todd wants to provide Olympic themed meat Friday. So
we're trying to come up with recipe inspirations for Tyler
tomorrow on the trigger. Do you have some these?
Speaker 10 (20:28):
We did the onion rings and the gold you competators,
how about medallions of beef.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Met old and medallions of beef. Okay, butterfly steaks, steaks
presented in butterfly fashion.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
That's kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I think it's I think it's shrimp. I thought they
butterfly your steak, right, I think they I think they
do that with the shrimp. I don't know if they
do with that with this steak salad. One thousand island dressage.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Wheaties.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Can you do anything with leading me? Sprinkle it on
the on something and a bad mutton.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Mutt mutton well mutton letuce and tomato sandwich muttains.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
All right, Thank you to uh Luke and Charlotte Luke.
Thanks for holding bud. What do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (21:19):
Hey, guys, return of the steeple chase apologists here. I
just wanted to give you guys props for keeping up
the good word talking.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
About the best event in the world.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
What an electric race it was last night, had one
of the front runners getting a face full of track
in the last two hundred meters USA slipping the silver
medal in there. It's everything you could have dreamed for.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Thanks, have a good week.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Thank you Luke. Yeah, we've come in.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It feels like every morning and we're like we just
noticed some event and Todd goes, you know that one
where you jump over something and then you there's a
puddle of water and I go this steeple chase.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
He said, yeah, why are they landed like a little
foot pile of water. It's so bizarre. Chico in Baltimore,
Hey Chico, Hey Dan.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
These Olympics, some of them, don't you know that they
should remove skateboarding and remove stuff like mountain climbing.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
And I mean mountain tming and mountains that yeah, removed that,
remove breakdancing and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, they're trying to get younger audiences. That's why they
went to the X Games events because they the Olympics
were getting too old, they were aging out. And to
get a younger audience, a bigger audience than you have
to have, you have to have more than just swimming
in gymnastics. You want to make sure that you have
other events there. And if it's you know, snowboarding, the
(22:44):
different types of events that they have there, even skateboarding
now Seeton, you may think differently because this is you know,
a fringe kind of counterculture type sports that you know,
the the skateboarders that do they want to be in
the Olympics. Is important to be in the Olympics with skateboarding,
(23:04):
even break dancing. Every host country gets to have a
couple of events that they want to put in, Like
lacrosse is going to be in the LA Olympics. It's
not in all the Olympics, but you get a couple
that you want to put in. Your thoughts on skateboarding
in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Oh yeah, I think it's awesome, absolutely, and I mean honestly,
I think if you're going to have, uh, I don't
a room for synchronized swimming or swim dancing whatever they're
calling it now, which is very impressive to think that
those people are doing that while swimming.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
However, swansing, they're swansing.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I mean, we can make room for people to do
that on skateboards too.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm fine with it. But I know what the philosophy
is of the IOC. They need to get younger, have
younger audiences care about the Olympics, because the Olympics where well,
my mom and dad want to see the Olympics. It
might not be as important to younger kids, but it
is with the gymnastics is really important. Swimming as big
(24:05):
as well, but it's the other kind of peripheral sports
that you're going to have people who might watch that
wouldn't normally watch now. I remember when it felt like
the Olympics were trying to adopt some of the X
Games events, and there were participants in the X Games
who did not want the Olympics to adopt or you know,
(24:27):
kind of absorb their event or their sport.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yeah, Seed, there's always going to be that sort of
like counter culture nature to it, right, and like a
certain street level fashion sense to it that will always
be there. However, sports like skateboarding in particular, their popularity
sort of ebbs and flows, and like once a decade
it gets really popular and then goes away for another
(24:50):
eight years or something. So in order for people to
really make a living skateboarding, you kind of need you
can't depend on the X Games because the X Games
is eventually going to run out of cash too, you know.
I mean even you see how it's downsized over the
years now, it's really not nearly the same as what
it was. So if you need money flowing into that sport,
and every four years you can have a reminder that, yeah, nigeh.
(25:13):
Houston is still killing it, then that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I remember when the X Games were hatched.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I was at the Mother ship and all of a sudden,
I remember talking to one of the executives and he
even said, he goes, I came up with this idea.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And he said, what's the idea, he goes.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Which probably doesn't interest you, but it's gonna it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
To your kids.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I said, okay, and then he started to explain the
X Games, and then I go, all right. I didn't
think that it would grow in metastasized to what it became,
because it there was a time when the X Games
felt like it was rivaling the Olympics, you know, certainly
here in the United States, but then you had all
(25:57):
these other countries that wanted to be involved in the
X Games, and now you have Winter Acts, Summer Acts,
and it was a big deal. But I just remember,
you know, I'm never good on those ideas. When they go, hey,
you know what we're thinking of doing, I'll be like, yeah,
good luck with that.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Ninety five, yeah yeah, wow, And I was, you know,
that was the peak of my Sports Center days, and
I just remember it felt like ESPN couldn't do anything wrong.
That whatever ESPN was going to do, Remember, they had
the like the Lumberjack games where they were throwing.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Awesome, they're cutting down trees.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And they're throwing knives and whatever they were doing, and
I go, sure, people will watch, And I think that
was successful for a while. Paulie and I during the
commercial break, we were trying to pinpoint when the NFL
sort of grabbed the baton from baseball and maybe college
basketball and said, no, no, we're see you. We're the
(26:58):
sport America's pastime. And you could probably pinpoint at least
the breadcrumbs start with Joe Namath in Super Bowl three
guaranteeing that they were going to beat the big bad
Baltimore Colts and they were seventeen to eighteen point underdogs there.
And Joe Namath was different than anybody else. He had
the white shoes, you know, a fur length of a
(27:20):
full length fur coat, had the long hair, had you know,
haircut style like the Beatles, and the way through the
football he was always, you know, with beautiful women, so
he became more than just a football player. It became
this social feeling, this wave that kind of hit the
NFL and then they pulled off the upset. So if
(27:41):
you start there, then you had the Kansas City Chiefs
they ended up winning the Super Bowl the next year.
Then it felt like, Okay, the AFL is here, Now
what's the NFL going to do?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And you could.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Probably go from that to nineteen eighty four with Dan
Marino if that sounds that he was that was different
than anything we'd ever seen, Like Joe Namath was stylistic.
Dan Marino changed the game, He changed the sport by
his you know, five wide doesn't need a running back
and he's just going to carve you up. And he
(28:17):
just threw the ball differently than anybody else. So if
you kind of start there, then I get the eighty
five Bears, I get the Giants in eighty six. Now
all of a sudden, I've got some momentum. I've got storylines.
You got to have the draft in there, mel Kiper's
in there, Chris Berman's in there. Fantasy football was taking
off in the early eighties, and it just felt like
(28:39):
there was a five or six year window where it
was like, we've got everything we need. Now make sure
you get as much exposure TV wise.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, Martin Madden Football Game.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, Yeah, that's a big call too. Yeah, there's there's
a handful of people that you can say, you know,
they help bring the game into the forefront, changed the game.
But I would start with name it because I remember
watching the NFL growing up, and you know, Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders,
you can put them in there as well.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It became more of a spectacle than just watching.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Three yards in a cloud of dust or new stadiums.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Dallas had that new stadium had the hole in the roof.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I mean we were like, oh my god, why would
you build a stadium and then have a hole in
the roof so God can see the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I was like, sure, why not.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Didn't know he loved the Cowboys, but apparently he does
pretty good line.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah it is Green Bay Packers, just Vince Lombardi. They
were dominant.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Jerry Kramer came out with Instant Replay and that was
kind of behind the scenes where we haven't really read something.
North Dallas forty book that came out kind of gave
you really the dirty details of what goes on in
professional football. So there was you know, there were a
variety of characters, storylines, teams, events, moments, and you put
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it all together and then the NFL has never looked back.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah. Mark NFL films also with the Sables.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Good call back to back Blue Blue. Yeah, NFL films
was huge because we didn't get to see all the games.
If you didn't watch Monday Night Football where Howard Cosell
would do the highlights and that was must see. I
got to stay up until Howard was done with the
highlights and then all of a sudden, all right, time
to go to bed. Didn't get to see the second half,
(30:35):
but your team might have been on the halftime highlights
with Howard goes sou You're like, we made it. The
Bengals made it. Pauli said that there is a career
NFL career that just came to an end. He said,
it's a very odd career to quantify. One of the
(30:55):
more fascinating NFL careers is over.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Okay, I'll give you a series of hints. Okay, this
player played for six teams, one team twice, so you
could characterize him as a journeyman.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
However, this quarterback also had a season his second season
in the league. He threw for twenty seven touchdowns and
only two picks, one of the greatest seasons stat wise
in NFL history, twenty seven to two.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So not Nick Foles it's Nick Foles.
Speaker 10 (31:22):
Six teams, a backup for most of his career, different places.
He also has a Super Bowl MVP versus Tom Brady. Yeah,
he's not even in danger at all of sniffing the
Hall of Fame. No, but he's what a fascinating career.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, go toe to toe with Tom Brady, lived
to tell about it. But I think when Chip Kelly
was there and his offense and Nick Foles embraced it
and vice versa, and that was pretty impressive showing yes, Mark.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The crazy part about that is that may have been
Tom Brady his best Super Bowl performance.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
He threw for five hundred yards. They didn't punt. That's
the one Bill threw. Oh do you think Belichick threw
that one? Belichick threw that one. That's a loss on Bill,
not on Tom. Accurate.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, can we say that, yeah, but yeah, Nick Foles,
that's pretty fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
M Would you say he had a great career? Great? No,
but interesting? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I think he would say he had a great career though, right,
I mean not great in this sense that we're talking
about like Joe Montana great, but like hell, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
He had fifty eight career starts. I did well, he was.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
His record is winning percentages five hundred courtse But of
all of the quarterbacks who went against Tom Brady, did
anybody have better numbers than Nick Foles? Because Eli didn't
have great eight numbers. He had great moments. I don't
(33:02):
know if he had huge numbers there.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Pauline Fowles was twenty eight to forty three three seventy three,
three touchdowns and a pick us Tom.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Brady and a touchdown reception. Correct, Brady did not catch
a pass, but one was thrown to him that day.
Oh my god. Twenty eight to forty eight five.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
The Eagles Trada by the way, Yes, yeah, Brady was
twenty eight to forty eight, five hundred and five yards,
three touchdowns, no.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Pick, Yeah, thankes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
When you're down on the field and I'm we're setting
up because I'm handing out the Super Bowl Trophy right
after that to the Eagles, and you're watching Brady go
back to pass and he gets sacked and uh, it
happened so fast in front of you. But when you're
watching on TV, you're like Tom, you can see the rush.
(33:51):
When you're down on the field. I'm right behind Brady
in the end zone. And it happens so quick.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's just it's.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Mind boggling that you're he's seeing what he sees. We
see it because we're up above and we're looking at it, going, oh,
he's wide open. Tom's doing it well.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
They all do it in real time and it's moving
real fast, and I remember, God, don't give Brady another shot.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And even then we still thought he could still win
that game against the Eagles, just like against the Giants
when he had one more shot and he was trying
to throw it to Gronk in the end zone. Watching
the game from the sidelines is fascinating, just because TV
does not do it justice. It slows everything down, it
keeps it in frame focus here down there on the field,
(34:39):
and you're like, who's he throwing it to? And I
remember being on the sidelines when Eli has the pass
to Mario Manningham right in front of me, and I'm going,
I don't know how he possibly saw that, and that
he caught it as well, Like it was just wild
because you see the ball and I who's he throwing it?
(35:01):
And then all of a sudden it's perfectly placed. Whatever
they get paid, they're worth it. We'll take a break,
last call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in
store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern,
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Speaker 2 (35:24):
Last Call for phone Calls, What we learn, What's in
store tomorrow? The Great Bob Costas will stop by the
program close up Sean Pierre eight seven to seven, three
DP show, Big Track and Field Day. A little bit
later on, we'll, of course recap everything tomorrow. BMCAA. Well,
did they hammer Jim Harball or the memory of Jim Harball,
(35:46):
because Jim Harball now with the Chargers. I don't know
if this four year punishment is really going to matter
to Jim Harball. Why don't they say to Jim Harball,
if and when you come back to college football, it's
four years now.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Now it's a punishment. Now you won't come back.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
But at least you're saying something that could impact him,
as opposed to this doesn't impact him. I don't know
is this going to hurt his legacy that what he
did in twenty twenty one where recruiting violations like the
Big One is the cheating scandal Connor Stallions, that's the
one we care about, not this one. This was during
the title season. This happened, That's what we care about.
(36:28):
But the NCAA, all right, you're kind of punishing him,
but then you're kind of not. Let's see Eddie and Ohio.
Hi Eddie, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (36:41):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Now Dpno, Hey, so, I guess I'm the second biggest
Steeplechase fan because I heard the biggest calling earlier. But
the steeple chase was actually a horse race in the beginning,
and the water hazard was meant to some when the
horse riders would have to navigate you know, small rivers
(37:04):
or creeks or stuff like that on their fight from
one steeple to be another. One reason I know any
of this is because when I was running in high school,
I claimed I was going to be the first person
in history to ever catch the people until I did
my research and found out if you're not actually chasing anything.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Thank you, Eddie, Greg and Sarasota. Hi Greg, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You brought up Howard Cosell, the great voice of NFL passed,
and I just wish you could come back from the
grave and just call one dolphin.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
Game for me.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Could you imagine two tongos by loop? Thank you, Greg. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Cosell always like almost like Stephen A does with Michael Olawa, Candy.
Who is the other name that steven A would slavo?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Can't play download, can't play outside, can't play.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But Howard cose I think a lot of what steven
A does, or I shouldn't say a lot, but some
of it is sampling what Howard Cosell did and how
he did it. Having an opinion. You know, Howard was
had opinions on everything. It wasn't just sports, and so
does steven A. But stare bitch eighte syllables. I remember
(38:22):
doing an NBA draft with steven A and we're trying
to sum up what the Portland Trail Blazers were doing,
and he basically said, I got nothing to say. I
don't know what the Blazers are doing and I don't
know if they do either. And I'm going, wait, we're
supposed to be giving analysis on this. You can't just
tap out. But I remember he was like, I don't
(38:43):
know what they're doing. Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Brian in California, Hi, Bry what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (38:50):
Five? Yeah. I was listening to the comparison and looking
back on Nick Foles's career on how many different examples
he had to go through, and I got the no
risk it, no biscuit arions quote for that guy. But
I was wondering if you would as his career anywhere
(39:11):
near Dan Marino's because he has a ring and Dan doesn't.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
No, no, I would take Dan Marino's career even Nick
winning a Super Bowl against Tom Brady. Dan Marino changed
the position. How many quarterbacks in history have changed the position.
Peyton certainly did, Dan Marino certainly did. Now you can
(39:36):
say Joe Montana because of the West Coast offense, but
that's Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. How many quarterbacks did
Brett Farv change it from being sort of that hey
gunslinger type. I guess Tom Brady change it, made a
running game out of his passing game.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Are there five to seven, maybe seven to ten quarterbacks
who changed and Dan Marino there was nothing like that.
There was nobody like Dan Marino. And he was brash
his second year. I mean, you're throwing for five thousand yards.
That was unheard of Hey, we're gonna have everybody up
(40:21):
five wide. You know, we're going to pass the ball
and we're going to continue to do it. And back
then it wasn't just short passes. Duper and Clayton were
going deep and it was fun. This day in sports
history Paul.
Speaker 10 (40:31):
Nineteen or three. Joe McGinty, speaking of sore shoulders of
New York, pitched two complete games in one day. He
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the gold medal. They beat Croatia one seventeen eighty five.
Bonus coverage Fritzy nineteen ninety eight, Paul Malader got his
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