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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Friday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show.
It's a Meat Friday, The Underrated Blt, a smoked BLT
sandwich on the trigger, along with beer, battered onion rings,
and Honor of Fritzy and the Olympics as well. Eight
seven seven to three DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot
Com Twitter handle a DP show. Future Hall of Famer
(00:26):
J J Lot will join us coming up. I think
he goes in the same year as Tom Brady does,
so we'll talk to J. I think Matt Ryan is
up for the same year as well, with JJ and
Tom Brady, Bob Constace a little bit later on as well.
We got football coming up tonight, Texans Steelers. That got
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a whole lot more interesting in my opinion, because Justin Fields,
I'd like to see how many reps he gets, how
he does, how they showcase him. So I'm really curious
about that Falcons against the Dolphins. Michael Pennix Junior the third,
I'm really curious how many reps are you getting? Probably
twenty twenty five, maybe a little bit more. And the
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Eagles versus the Ravens. So some football coming up tonight.
The big news yesterday team USA survives down seventeen and
now they faced France for the gold. Steph Curry was unbelievable.
He had thirty six, but it took a herculean effort
from the entire team, well everybody but Jason Tatum apparently,
but Lebron and Katie and Joel Embiid were great. Devin
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Booker had a big three as well, but it took that.
So on one hand, you can go, wow, they came
back from seventeen down, or you can do what I did?
How did you get down seventeen to begin with? And
as many games as I watched the Joker play, I've
never seen him more emotional than yesterday. Even when they
were winning an NBA championship, he was far more emotional yesterday.
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What that game meant to him Because every seas, no
matter how it ends, for Denver, what does jokers say,
can't wait to get back home? Well, now he's back home.
Now he's with his players, he's representing his country, and
it meant so much to him. Got in foul trouble,
wasn't dominating. Lebron guarded him in the fourth quarter and
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Team USA lives for another day and a chance to
win the goal, all right, eight seven to seven three
DP Show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter
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Thank you for downloading the app and our radio affiliates
Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio as well. Poll question for hour
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two is going to be what set no O'Connor right now?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We got up there, Dan, would you rather? This is
shocking to be would you rather blow a lead or
not have a chance?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Seventy four percent of the audience would rather not have
a chance than blow a lead. And then we also
have up there the BLT is overrated or underrated? Oh
right now? Sixty percent of the old audience are correctly
saying it's underrated. It is underrated, Well forty almost forty
almost forty one percent saying it's overrated.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, that's blasphemy. Yeah, I think the grilled cheese sandwich
and peanut butter and jelly, I mean those are underrated.
You know, I know, we got all these big sandwich companies,
you know, Subway and Jersey all of that. Sometimes it
comes down to something really simple, you know, Mom. I
think I'm going to have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich,
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or how about a grilled cheese sandwich with some tomato soup. BLT.
I don't need to add anything other than just a
BLT and the love of my mother. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
BLT though, is like a luxury sandwich though, when someone
fires one up in the morning, like, oh, toasted bread,
and that's a luxury sam.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, all right, so that's our pole question for hour
two there. Yeah, we're gonna keep those two up. I believe, Okay.
J J Watt NBA today on CBS studio analyst and
former teammate Andre Johnson going into the Hall of Fame.
He's joining us on the program. Are you eligible the
same year as Tom Brady? Is that what? Twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
First things first, Blt's trash.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's say goodbye to JJ Watt, JJ
good luck this upcoming season here. Wow, Wow, it's trash.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It's just it's just a it's not a superior sandwich.
I agree with you on peanut butter and jelly. I
agree with you on grilled cheese. I just I don't
see the appeal of the BLT. The bacon implies that
you are interested in something unhealthy and delicious. The lettuce
goes in direct contrasts to that because there's no point
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to it. So if we're going unhealthy, let's just go
all in. The bacon, egg and cheese far far superior
to the BLT.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, I'll agree with you on that. I just
we were talking about underrated bacon, you know, and egg sandwich.
I mean, that's no one said that's underrated BLT. Correct,
it's underrated.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I think it's perfectly rated because you don't really ever
think about it. And if you got one, sure I'll
eat it. But I mean, it's not what I'm going
to order now. My wife went to North Carolina and
there's this place called I believe it's called Merrick's there
that they're famous for their BLT. I suppose if you
stack enough bacon on there, you can make an argument.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
A slab there. Do you go in the same year
as Tom Brady?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I don't know. I don't I'm hopefully I'd like to
go in someday. That would be very cool.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I would make plans that weekend if I were you.
I'm just saying you might be in Canton and with
the wife and kid, just I would make plans there
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Last weekend was my first time first time being there.
It was really really cool. It was really special. I
got to see obviously Andre and celebrate him, and see
a bunch of guys I grew up watching and playing
again thankfully, Patrick Willis and Dwight Freeney and Devin Hester,
Julius Peppers. It was really really cool to see those guys.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
But who's the one player former player where you went,
Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Can tell you this definitively. I'm still trying to get
my mom to pull up the picture. But when I
was I believe I was like fourteen or fifteen years old.
I was in the Atlanta airport. I was a huge
Miami Hurricanes fan growing up, massive Hurricanes fan, so obviously
Andre first of all, but Devin Hester was walking through
the airport with his Miami Letterman jacket on, and my
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mom and dad I was like, I gotta go get
a picture. So I have a photograph of me in
the Atlanta airport with Devin Hester in his Hurricanes jacket,
and so he came off stage at the Hall of
Fame speech this past weekend, and the people around me said,
I've never seen you fan out like that. I ran
up to him and I said, Devin, I gotta get
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a picture with you. And I took a picture with him,
and so I'm waiting for my mom to give me
the picture. We're going to put him side by side.
Because that was cool for me.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That would have been awesome if you did have it
when you were fourteen or fifteen and you showed him,
you would have freaked him out. He would have been, well, yeah,
that's you when you're fourteen or fifteen, and you were
probably still bigger than Devin Hester at fourteen or fifteen.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I can't tell you how cool it was. Also, I'm
a kid growing up in Wisconsin as a Miami Hurricanes fan.
It was a pretty big rarity, I feel like. But
they were they were the cat's pajamas back then. Man,
they were unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Did you want to go to the U?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Oh? Yeah? I filled out the online questionnaire that you
can fill out the school's website, and a couple of
weeks later in the mail, I got like the standard,
you know, bulletproof letter that they send everybody with Larry
Coker's autographed at the bottom. I thought Larry Coker himself
sent me that letter, and I was like, holy shit,
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I mind you. I'm like, I'm on the freshman team.
I just filled out and I was like, I'm going
to Miami, guys, I don't know what to tell you school.
I showed everybody the next day. You didn't realize they
weren't interested in a no star recruit from Wisconsin. Dad,
I don't know what. I don't know what they were thinking.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You didn't realize it was a form letter that had
no idea.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yes, you could have got me with a lot of
internet scams back then, because I would book mine and
sinker that I was going to be a Cane.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
When did you get a star or two stars? Or
were you ever like a two or three star recruit?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Got two? I got two on one and I think
I was zero on the other.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I honestly don't know. I believe it was two stars
is what I got. I remember my first offer. My
first offer was the University of Wyoming. My dad it
was this is incredible. He literally flew out to Wyoming,
put my tape on the desk of the coach and
flew home. He was like, because I mean, I'm thankful
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to him. And so the coaches they flew us out
there and we went out there for a visit to
Wyoming and they offered me and I was blown away.
And we look at this board and had his board
with like fifteen d ns on it, and they were like,
we're offering all fifteen these guys. The first four that
accept are coming here. I'm just going to tell you
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that's how that's how it's going to work. And at
the time, you know, I'm I'm like, I don't know
if I'm going to get another offer. My Dad's like,
I don't know if you're going to get another offer.
And so you start to get the wheels turning. But
then the process kind of took off as it was.
But I'll never forget getting that first offer, flying out
to Wyoming and being out there. I believe it's clar
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Laramie Lara, Yeah, Laramie.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Did you go out there during the winter.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
No, No, it was not during the winter.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, it's a little bit different than Wisconsin winter. Just
just letting you know, yes, and you spend.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
A lot of time out there and big big Laramie guy.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
One time I went out to uh Wyoming in the winter.
Don't need to go back again. No one and done
and uh the wind was in a little bit beautiful,
but it was unbelievably cold. He's jj waantt NFL today
on CBS. You probably did track and field growing up,
Like what Olympic sport would you have been good on?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
So my dad held the high school shotput record at
my school and I never did track and field. I
went out for it in seventh grade, saw how much
running you had to do, and I literally did not
go back for day two. This is brutal. It's just brutal.
So my senior year of high school, I decided, I'm
gonna see if I can break my dad's record. I've
never thrown shot put, never done it. Thankfully, went out
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there and did break it, won the state championship, and
then my brothers each broke my record after that, but
they each did it for four years. They did the
whole thing. So I would say shotput would really love
to throw the hammer. I think that would be such
a cool event to whip the hammer around and throw it.
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Other than that, I don't think I have much m'ch's
going on in the Olympics. I think everybody's pretty pretty incredible.
I can tell you the one I would suck at
the most, and that would be water polo.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Would you die.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That you could not put Like if you were trying
to torture me and get information out of me, throw me
in a water polo match, that sounds like I would.
I would die. Yeah, I would absolutely die.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It would be weird to see with floaties on while
you're doing waterbole. Hey, that's a violent sport men and women.
I mean, they go at it there. I remember talking
to one of the US women's member team members shit
scratches all over her body, and I said, if.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
I was treading water and you like wrestled me, I
would have the biggest panic attack you could ever had.
Like think about that, Like you're treading water, fighting for
your life, and all of a sudden somebody just climbs
on your back, like no, get out of here, man.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Second most important position in football today is what.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Wow, that's a really good question, very very I mean,
I've never been asked it, and it's so hard because
there's nothing that affects it in such an individual way
as the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But the left tackle used to be really important edge work. Yeah,
I mean now wide receiver is whe is wide receiver
the second most important position.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I feel like you, I feel like you do have
to have a guy to get the ball too, because
the quarterback. Yeah, I would because you can. You can
try to eliminate an elite pass rusher with chip blocks
and everything. So it also depends on who he's got
helping them out. But I would say, if you're only
taking one guy and you're not taking everything else around him,
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I would say, yeah, it's probably a receiver to give
his quarterback somebody to throw it to. I can tell
you the second toughest position to play, and that's cornerback.
By far. Cornerback is such a difficult position to play
in the National Football League, especially with all the rules
that they put in place now that I have so
much respect for those guys, that position is brutal.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But if you could start your team with your brother
or Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Yeah, that's a tough one in today's league. You got
to score the points, man, you gotta score the points.
You're trying to you're trying to trap me into a
headline where I don't take my brother here. Yeah, yeah,
that was tricky. You're a you are a veteran of
the game. That was impressive.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And you're taking justin Jefferson, your words, not mine, Your
words not mine. Enjoy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Do you do?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You miss hitting somebody.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Every now and then? Every now and then, for sure,
for sure a guy cut me off in line the
other day, and yeah, you know, you definitely wish you'd
get some of that aggression out.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You should be allowed one blind side, you know a year.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Well, you just it would be great. That's the beauty
of it, man. And sometimes you just get to let
it fly and you don't get that experience like you know,
I've it is. It is a beautiful thing. But yes, yeah,
there's definitely times where you miss just a perfect, clean hit,
nothing better.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
What was the biggest transition going into doing studio work
at CBS.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Some of it is, uh, finding the line of lockero
and talk that you can like bring, you know, like,
and also finding the knowledge level that you should bring
to the table because you you can't go, you know,
so deep into the weeds about things that are going
on in the games and some of the tactics, which
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you can do obviously when we're in the back room
or the greenroom, Me and coach Kauer are sitting there
talking about schemes and things. It's unbelievable. But you bring
that to the air and you might lose some people
pretty quickly. So there's a fine line that you have
to find between educating the fans and keeping them in
and also going too far.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, because sometimes you can speak a language for your
fellow football players and that's not your job. Your job
is to speak your language, but translated so we can
understand it. And that's sometimes tricky for our former athletes.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, it's definitely tricky. I specifically remember there was something
that we were talking about with We're leading up to
the Mahomes playing against the Ravens, and we were talking about,
you know how he likes to scramble out the B
gap and then you know sometimes he'll go deep out
the back of the pocket. And they were like, are
we one hundred percent sure that the fans know you
know the B gap? And I was like, I think
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there's a large majority of fans that do. And they
were like, but does everybody? And so that's had I
had to say. That gap there between the tackle and
the center, you know, like you just can't sometimes you
have to switch it up.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
How's your soccer club doing?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
We start up on Monday. We got our first match
on Monday from the new season. Very much looking forward
to it. We're in the championship. Last time we're in
the championship, we won it and nearly set a record
for points, So very much looking forward to this season.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
All right, before we let you go, let's play the
JJ benching game. How much is JJ benching right now?
One rep? Todd four five or forty five? Seat O'Connor,
JJ Watt one rep.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I'm gonna save four, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
He's taking it light, so three seventy five.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
All right, Paulie, he's been doing a lot of legwork
this summer. I noticed, good job, are you kid. I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go four to thirty five.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
No spotter, Paulie checks out your pictures on Instagram, which
it's creepy, see but it's creepy when he goes, oh,
look at JJ, Look how you'm working on. I'm going
to go for twenty five.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I actually have a bench today, so I could I
could tell you, but I'm not going to one rep
max it. I would say at the peak of my career,
I would say four forty five was probably about right.
But right now today I would say I'm probably about
four fifteen. I think I put up four fifteen today.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
All right, about a round of apart for four or fifteen?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
How about your dan? What are we putting up?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh? God, if you gave me four reps, I could
probably do four fifteen like combined.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Okay, so we're looking at we're looking at one one hundred. Yeah,
a rep for four reps?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, right around there.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
If somebody, if somebody slapped cash on the table and said, Dan,
you're today, we need you to bench the most you
can possibly bench for one rep. What do you think
you're putting up? Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, today wouldn't be good because I've had one rotator
cuff done and then I have the other shoulder that
has to be scoped. So this would be leg day today.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Okay, I squat? What do we squat? Me?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well, I have a I have a replacement me, so
I don't. I don't want that to pop out. How
about calves? Maybe we do calfday. I haven't had anything
happen to my calves but you know I'm a warrior.
I left it all out on the field. That's why
I have all these surgeries. You can relate to that there.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. Yeah, I mean you
use the Rotaar company as an excuse. I rotear cuff Bengne,
but still here putting it up. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, congratulations and once again thank you. Make make plans
for is that August of twenty twenty eight, Pauline that Yeah,
don't take a European vacation that weekend? Yeah? Are you
do you want to go enjoy those? Do you want
to go before Brady or after Brady?
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:04):
I mean I think that anybody who's around Brady is
going to be overshadowed that that at that time he
is going to it'll be that'll be really cool. I mean,
the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Maybe pop him right in the Sternham just a just
a pop, maybe a four um.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Make a memory. You would be you would be remembered.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yes, And I'm gonna guess there are probably a couple
of guys up on the day us would probably go yeah,
oh yeah, we'll get him all the defensive kinds of
be like yeah, but did you ever get Brady.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Uh. This is a big point of controversy between us.
I got him for one in the playoffs, which they
don't count on official stats, so the stat book says zero,
the actual playoff stats says half. But if you watch
the play I got the whole it's a it's a
whole thing. But I mean, guy's got seven rings. He
doesn't give a shouts.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know, but we do because you got one hundred
and fourteen and a half sacks.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
My halfs are very very discussed, a very much discussed
point in the meeting rooms. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I'm not big on the half no, no.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So it's either all or nothing. But you're just what
if two people hit them at the exact same.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'm going to give you both the sack.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Oh you're giving both foals?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Oh I like that. I thought you were going to
go with it. Okay, I like that. All right? Do
you give you three guys at him to all three
get it? Sure? Oh? I like that, But now I
don't like because I'm retired. Numbers would just destroy mine.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
My best of the family. Great to talk to you,
good luck with the upcoming season.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Always enjoyable. Thank you guys. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's JJ Watt NFL Today on CBS and Future Hall
of Fame. Let me take a break. You know, I
don't like list you don't know. You know, I don't
like rankings when it's coming to the NFL Who's best,
top ten and top five? But there have been a
few lists that came out and we thought we'd have
our good buddy from Pro Football Focus, Steve Pommelzola on
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so we could separate fact from fiction, because this whole
thing where Tyreek Hill is the number one ranked player
according to players is absolutely stupid because Patrick Mahomes wins
championships and until somebody does something different, Patrick Mahomes is
the number one player in the NFL. We'll see if
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Steve agrees with me right after this.
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saw where Jerry Jones he said, I Jerry's just gonna
stop talking. I mean it's great for us, it's content,
But he says he has no urgency to get a
contract done with CD Lamb. CD Lamb then replied on
social media, Lol, it just feels like the longer this goes,
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the more expensive it is. But once again, he's a
billionaire and I'm not. Steve Palozzolo maybe can explain the
logic here. With the Dallas Cowboys, Steve Pro Football Focus,
Head of Football Pro production and check the mic podcast. Also,
he's going to be the new co host of that
with the thirty third Team, So it's always great to
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have Steve back on to offer up his expertise. What
is Jerry doing with CD Lamb, Like, what's the logic here?
In your opinion?
Speaker 11 (23:26):
Jerry had a quote a couple of weeks back basically saying,
I know what I'm doing. I'm just creating some buzz,
which isn't the best football decision, right, Like we always
talk about this through the lens of salary cap and
the price. Jerry's looking at it. Maybe from a business perspective, Hey,
everybody's talking about the Cowboys, that's okay, But clearly from
a football perspective, letting Dak go right to the final hour,
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letting CD Lamb, letting Michaeh Parsons go to the final hour,
I don't think is going to be the best actual
football salary cap driven decision.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, and I wondered about this logic and not the
first to bring it up. But the more I you know,
hear Jerry talking people talking about the Cowboys, Micah Parsons,
Jack Prescott, Ceddee Lamb, it seems like that is priority
number one. Is I want you talking about my team
and maybe we get around to being a super Bowl
caliber team at some point. Where does Pro Football Focus
(24:21):
have Cedee Lamb ranked in the top let's say wide receivers.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
I mean, for me, I think he's in that top
four to five. I mean I think I think you've
got Tyreek Hill, justin Jefferson, guys like Jamar Chase aj Brown.
But what Ceedee Lamb did last year, you know they
have slowly taken away some of his friends over the
last couple of years, Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup getting hurt,
and Ceedee Lamb stepped up. He can win on the inside,
he can win on the outside. He was obviously Dak's
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go to guy. Last year, I think Ceedee Lamb showed
he could be in that top five conversation for receivers.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Second most important position in football.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
It's receiver. Obviously quarterback one. It's it's receiver though, and
the market has started to show that the more twenty
million dollar plus players in the NFL, guys getting up
over thirty million dollars a year. It's a passing league.
And when you have that number one difference maker at
receiver makes a huge impact.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The NFL. The players had their top one hundred ranking
there somehow Aaron Rodgers made the list even though he
was in for four plays last year. Like it's it's
hard for me to take it seriously, but then people do.
And then Tyreek Hill was number one. I love Tyreek Hill,
nobody like him. But Patrick Mahomes is the most valuable
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player in the league. He wins championships. It's I use
the same logic when I voted for MVP in the NBA.
Karl Malone might have had a great year, Charles Barkley
may have had a great year. Mike was always going
to win a championship in my mind, and I can't
take I mean, that's value. There's nobody more valuable than
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Do you agree?
Speaker 11 (25:55):
I completely agree.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
I think Mahomes is in that Tom Brady echelon of Hey,
this is the best player until you know, somebody says
otherwise or they retire. So the players list, though, is interesting.
They vote during the season, and who knows what their
criteria is, but you know during the season if they
voted around Week fourteen or fifteen. Remember the Chiefs offense
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wasn't doing so hot last year. This was before we
saw them go on that run, you know, in the playoffs.
I also don't know how much the players are factoring
in positional value. I mean, if we were just listing
who are we going to start a team with, you're
going to have eight or ten quarterbacks first, before we
even get to your first receiver or edge rusher. So
I think the criteria who knows what it actually is
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for the players. They're just kind of writing names down
on a list and you know wherever it shows up
at the end.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think if they voted right after the Super Bowl,
we know how this would end up. It would be
Patrick Mahomes. But look, Tyreek Hill was wonderful. Justin Jefferson
in there, Trent Williams would be in there. You know what,
give me your top five best players going into this season.
Speaker 11 (27:02):
Yeah, I'm going to refer to the PFF Top fifty.
We did this a few weeks ago over at PFF
dot com. We had Mahomes number one. We have Miles
Garrett number two, Cleveland Browns edge rusher. I think there's
other edge rushers in his league, but I think Miles
Garrett has separated himself above the guys like Micah Parsons, TJ. Watt,
sorry JJ, Nick Bosa, and some others. We have Trent
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Williams number three, who you mentioned the tackle from the Niners.
We have Justin Jefferson number four. I think that's where
the players had Justin Jefferson a little bit too low.
I think he's in that Tyreek Kill discussion as a
one A, one B type of receiver. And then I
have Micah Parson's number five in the PFF fifty. So
you know that was that was how we did it,
and it was we tried to. We tried to list
it at PFF from you know, taking positional value out
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of it. So we still put Mahomes up there. But
if you're if you're just listing quarterbacks, you'd have Josh
Allen up there. I'd have Joe Burrow, guys like Lamar Jackson,
but taking position out of it, those are the top five.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Most underrated NFL players going into this Give me five.
Speaker 11 (28:03):
Five underrated players going into the season. I think looking
through our list here, I think Sauce Gardner from the Jets.
He doesn't get targeted a whole lot, and I saw
the the NFL Executive Rankings a few weeks ago, saying, hey,
Sauce Gardner, you didn't love Sauce Gardner. I think he's
shut down. I think he's about to break the bank
for corners, you know, when he hits the market in
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a couple of years. I think Antoine Winfield, the safety
out from the Bucks, single handedly winning games last year
with a forced fumble at the goal line, making big
plays and coverage. His teammate Tristan Wurf's with the box.
He's not underrated anymore. He just got paid. He's getting
his thirty million. But what Wurfs did last year playing
going from right tackle to left tackle after three years
playing right tackle a lot of times it takes a
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little time to transition to the other side. He didn't
need any time to transition to the other side. And
I'm gonna say I'm monro Saint Brown because I'm going
to the thirty third team in the Saint Brown Brothers podcast.
They're doing a great job over there. A manra look
the money is starting to talk and say, hey, he's
not underrated anymore. But he has just done such a
good job. He's got that list of all the receivers
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that were drafted ahead of him, and he just goes
out there and continues to produce as one of the
best lot receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Is Brandon Ayuk worth a couple of first round picks?
Speaker 11 (29:18):
I wouldn't say a couple. I think one. I think
one is fair. I'm in the world where a first
round pick and a thirty million dollar contract I think
is probably worth it if you're a desperate team. I mean,
if you're the New England Patriots that needs a number
one wide receiver. And if you look at the Patriots
in particular, I know they he just turned them down.
But when you have a rookie quarterback and you saw
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what a number one receiver did for rookie rookie contract
quarterback Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia, a rookie contract quarterback to
in Miami when he got Tyreek Hill. Teams that are
desperate for a true number one I think need a
guy like Brandon Ayuk and that's probably worth a one
plus the thirty million.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Who's more desperate, Cleveland or Pittsburgh.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
I'd say Pittsburgh at this point. I love the rest
of their roster. I think Pittsburgh's also just more equipped
to spend the money on receiver because they have one
of the cheapest quarterback situations in the NFL. They have
Russell Wilson for pennies on the dollar, they have Justin
Fields for almost nothing, and then presumably next year, hey,
maybe they'll draft someone. They're probably not breaking the bank
for a quarterback in the coming years, so Pittsburgh can
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handle one of those thirty million dollar contracts at receiver.
Plus they just lost Deontay Johnson. So if you can
get a guy like Auk to pair with George Pickens,
that's how you elevate of Russell Wilson or a Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
How talented is the Bears roster?
Speaker 11 (30:36):
I think it's middle of the pack to maybe lower
half of the league. I think they've made great strides
since Ryan Poles has taken over a ton of good additions.
I still worry a little bit about the defensive side
of the ball. They played well down the stretch after
they traded for Montez Sweat from Washington. Still worry a
little bit about their pass rush, some inconsistency on the
back end. Love what they've done on the offensive side
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of the ball, though, I think bringing Keenan Allen in
as high volume slot receiver, drafting Roma Dunes in the
first round to pair with Caleb Williams, the offense absolutely
moving in the right direction. My big question is can
the defense keep up with what they did down the
stretch last year.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I know we spend way too much time talking about
Aaron Rodgers in the offense. I would like people to focus.
I wish they would on the Jets defense in just
how good that defense is, because that might be the
cornerstone of their success this year in my opinion, your thoughts, I.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Mean, going back to what I said about sas, Gardner
is one of the most underrated players. If we go
back just three years, the Jets had one of the
worst defenses in the NFL. They were getting wrecked. Sauce
Gardner comes in locks down one side, the pass rush
gets better. I mean, I do believe all three levels
the Jets do have a fantastic defense. It kind of
got overshadowed last year the to last two years by
just how bad the quarterback play has been. But yeah,
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if Rogers and the offense are just pretty good and
the Jets defense is just a fraction of what they've
been the last couple of years. They have a chance
to make a move because that pass rush is fee
range at linebacker. Love what they do, what they have
at corner. The Jets defense is definitely one of the
best in the league.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So the new co host of Check the Mic podcast
with the thirty third Team, tell the audience about that.
Speaker 11 (32:13):
Yeah, my co host Sam Monson and I we've been
at PFF almost since the beginning. Sam's been there almost
seventeen years. I've been there almost thirteen years. It was
just a great opportunity for us. We've been podcasting together
for over ten years and had a great opportunity to
go to the thirty third team start to Check the
Mic podcast. Work together going forward, and you know, we
hope the fans, listeners, our viewers will come with us.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Awesome. Thank you for all your contributions. We'll stay in
touch with you. Congrats on the new job. Thank you, Steve,
Thanks Dan. That's Steve Polozolo, Pro Football head of Football
Product co host of Check the Mic Podcast thirty third Team.
All right, we'll take a break. We'll get to more
phone calls coming up right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (33:05):
Bob Costas will join us in about a half hour
from now. He was over in Paris for a little
while while Michael's was over there as well, So we'll
talk to Bob here in a little bit. Phone calls
as well. Eight seven seven three DP show a lot
of things coming up this weekend. So you got the
Olympic basketball golden medal? You guys want to take a
guess the point spread? Just got it? Team USA versus
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France point spread gold medal. Yes, Paul to twelve and
a half, Todd seven and a half, Seaton fourteen and
a half, Marvin thirteen and a half. I got sixteen
and a half, sixteen and a half Team USA. Yes. Time,
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Poy and I have.
Speaker 12 (33:55):
A proposal that we'd like to run by the group.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
And wait, wait, wait, hold on, is this to try
to get rid of the pie to the face coming
up in an hour?
Speaker 13 (34:04):
I call it that that I know we're supposed to
each get a pie because we said that the USA
had to win every game by at least six. But
we were looking at doing something double and nothing based
on the odds you just shared with us. Paul will
be Team USA and he's all in on the Americans
winning by at least seventeen points, and if he's right,
no pies for him. And I will say that either
France will win or they will or USA will win
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by sixteen or less. Loser obviously gets two pies when
we return for break, winner doesn't get any pies.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Okay, I'm gonna let Marvin and Seaton decide this. I
mean I can cast the tie breaking vote by a Seaton.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I'm sorry run over the proposal again.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
It's basically a double or nothing.
Speaker 13 (34:44):
If the USA wins by seventeen or more, Paul gets
no pies.
Speaker 12 (34:49):
And I get two pies.
Speaker 13 (34:50):
If France wins, or if USA wins by sixteen or less.
If USA wins by sixteen or less, I will get
no pies and Paul will get two pies.
Speaker 12 (34:58):
It's just basically a double or nothing.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
That splitting between you guys, So one of you two
is getting two pies.
Speaker 12 (35:04):
One will get no pies, the other will get two pies.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Kind of keeping stand right now, they both have a
pie coming up today, So.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
It could either be right now, one that you both
get one yes, or.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Gets doubled and one doesn't get any Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Oh man, Marvin, what are your thoughts on that? I
was kind of looking forward to both of you guys
getting hit in the face of the pie.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Now both of them are getting it. Yeah, oh, double
or nothing? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
All right? Unanimous? There you go, got pies coming up.
That saved your tough decision, Dan, Yes, it did so.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Olympic basketball gold medal, You got that men's table tennis
gold medal match. China's got to be in there, right
China they dominate all the time. In fact, it's going
on right now. I got the women's shot put final.
Could I'm assuming they're going to throw it farther than
we did, farther than Marvin did. Marvin ended up winning,
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oh without question? Yeah, yeah, you dominated there. The women's
weightlifting final is also going to take place. I think
China and Russia Bulgaria are some of the favorites there.
How about the Pirates at the Dodgers Paul's schemes, it's
going to be pitching. Is he pitching this weekend? Saturday?
(36:22):
I know the Pirates at the Dodgers, but he's six
and one era under two might be a Saturday for
Paul's schemes against the Dodgers. By the way, the Padres
are knocking at the door here. Things starting to get
really really interesting here, certainly in the National League and
with the wild card. But those are just some of
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the items.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yes, Paul, Paul skians on Saturday at the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Okay, so you know what slide into your weekend with
all of these sporting events and King Sawaiian. They want
you to get together with family and friends, enjoy the
weekend by making every Sunday a slighter Sunday. George and Texas,
Good morning, George Woods on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (37:03):
Hey Dan, I got a question for Paul. Okay, when
the show if or when the show ends, would you
consider resurrecting the Leisurement that was.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
A little side show that mcloven and I did at
NBC that would be separate from this That wouldn't have
anything to do with what this building does going forward,
So if we ever did anything with that, it would
be separate.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
But no, no, I wouldn't have do anything to do
with this building. Shawn and New York. Kay, Shawn Woods
on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Hi, then, thank you for predicting the time to call
me personally. Sure six two two h five. So I
was watching Hard Knocks of the Bears. I was very
impressed with what I saw IF and the new dynamic
office of weapons they have. I really have no dog
in this fight, and my team is a dolphin, So
I was pretty different towards the Bears going in. Ebersleece
(37:55):
hadn't really been on my radar. But I'm buying into
the hype that is the Bears as a surprise threat.
So I'm willing to take a pie to space bets
as far as it takes to get one of the
then nets to take me on. So I'll start with
winning the divisions. The Bears will win the over the
Lions and Packers.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Any takers, anybody won a piece of Sean. He's got
the Bears winning the division over the Lions and the Packers, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I don't want to come off as anti Bears. I'm
pro Bears, but I'm pro realism. I think the Detroit
Lions are really tough still, and the Bears winning ten
games will be a huge accomplishment. While still losing the division.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Are you taking sewn up on his bet? Of course? Okay,
you got yourself. You got to take her here. Thank you, Sean.
Let me see Matt in North Carolina. Good morning, Matt.
What's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Good morning Dan?
Speaker 9 (38:45):
How are you guys today?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Great? Great, Matt, quick quick.
Speaker 9 (38:49):
I just want to talk about the unabashed patriotism of
the American athletes at the Olympics. That's we have so
much turmoil going on here at home. It is just
wonderful to see how much love and dedication they do have.
Was the United States? Would they get abroad and win
win medals?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
And it's just.
Speaker 9 (39:10):
It makes your heart feel good for the United States.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I love it, you know. I can wrap myself
in the flag just like everybody else. I like seeing it.
But then I'm in the content business. And if you
would have said Serbia would have won yesterday, I would
have said great, But I've got talking points. I got
content with that. It's different the fact the team USA
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if they lost, what it would mean Serbia playing for gold,
Joker playing for gold, what would mean for his career?
Steve Kerr coming back home, Lebron getting the bronze. Like
I'm always looking at the storyline. Not necessarily I want
Team USA to win. I do, but I also have
to look at this with my job, my job, with
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Serbia winning that gold medal would have been a lot
more interesting today because Team USA they can't lose. They
got the most talent, they're better than the Dream Team.
They got Lebron, they got step they got KD, they
got everything. But then they end up with the bronze
so as much as I but I love seeing sort
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of the secondary sports, for the lack of a better description,
where you get athletes who don't get center stage. You know,
Lebron and Steph and KD. They're always on center stage.
The steeple chase, you get your moment. That's what's awesome.
Somebody who's winning wrestling or judo, whatever, weightlifting, that's where
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it's fun. That's where you get to see the emotion.
But then you've got Scotti Scheffler who has everything and
he's reduced to tears. It does hit you. Djokovic he's
got everything now he has a gold medal. So those
are great storylines, not necessarily US based storylines, but we're
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looking for content here, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
Yeah, you could definitely see, like how much it means
to people. Nicole Joke, who shows no emotion you know,
I mean he was a he had it and one
at the end of the first half, I mean, and
he was yelling and screaming. He didn't show an ounce
of emotion when they won the NBA title.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
He win his parade, you know, the biggest winner. Biggest
winner by far, not even close. I'm going to tell
you in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 12 (41:22):
Well that's a tease.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yes, all right, Seacrest, Yes, thank you, Todd. Bob Costas
will join us. We'll see if Bob agrees with me.
The big winner of the Summer Games in Paris. Two
hours down, one more to go, two pies to go
in the final hour on this Meet Friday, back after
this Dan Patrick Show.