August 20, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan and the Danettes discuss the possibility of NFL player taking over the US Flag Football Team for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles. And NFL insider Dianna Russini drops by to break down what we can expect from the New York Jets with Aaron Rodgers, and says she is sold on the Houston Texans as a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hour two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan
Ens Dan Patrick Show come on in stay a while.
The Minister of Humor Fritzi is here. Seaton, Marv Paulie
and yours truly. Day two in the main Cave. Got
a pull question from our one. We'll clean that up.
Got one for hour two. We'll check in with NFL
reporter insider Diana Russini.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
She will join us.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She's spent some time with Bo Nix and Sean Payton.
Is Bonick's going to be the starter in Denver. She's
been bouncing around training camp. So we'll talk to Diana
Russini here in a little bit. All right, Seaton, poll
question from our one, and then what are we going
to go with our two?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, we have up there which coaching style, work's best,
criticism and tough love or support and encouragement right now?
The support and encouragement part winning sixty five percent? OK,
that's interesting, all right?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Uh Russell put up there.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Also put up there if I had to pick one
to make the Pro Bowl, Jaden Daniels, Drake may Bow Nicks, Caleb.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Williams, no Drake May.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You don't have to take one one representative from every team,
because then maybe he would have a shot. He might start,
Which is kind of surprising because I think most analysts
were saying that he needed probably the most work of
the you know, the first round quarterbacks here. Talent wise,
he has that, but I don't know if he's going.
(01:35):
If Belichick was there, I don't think Drake May would
be in contention to start.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, see right now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Unfortunately, Drake May has three point two percent of the votes. Okay,
he is very much in lasts. Okay, let me get
through the details here. Each seven to seven three DP show,
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, we say good
morning to our radio affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio, Fox
Sports Radio as well. Justin Herbert back to practice. Cleared
to practice. Jaden Daniels would be the starter for the Commanders.
(02:04):
And there's talk that NFL players in the Olympics, and
this is flag football.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So I don't know how this came up that we
felt the need to have NFL players play flag football,
but there's been a real push with the NFL and
the NFL Players Association. The NFL will be involved in this,
and you're going to have players who strictly play flag
football who we're going to have a problem with the
(02:34):
NFL trying to bigfoot to get in here. But if
you can put big names in there in the Olympics,
I don't know if you're going to get Patrick Mahomes
wanting to play or Tyreek Hill wanting to play. But
if you're the Olympics and you're NBC, You're like, the
more names we can get in here, the better off
we're going to be. I just don't know where this
(02:55):
push came from. That flag football in the Olympics will
watch it. I just didn't know where the initiative was
kind of hatched, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
There's a statement by Jeff Miller from the NFL said
a number of players have shown interest in the twenty
twenty eight Olympics to participate. One of them was Patrick
Mahomes that said, if I own the Kansas City Chiefs,
I love my country. I love my country, but I
don't love my country enough to let Patrick Mahomes play
any side football.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, but isn't there something in the NBA the NBA,
the owners can't prevent their players from playing in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yees a basketball. Yeah, it comes off.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Mark Cuban couldn't do it with Luca And I don't
know if the NFL is going to have to adopt
that because NBA players have been playing in the Olympics
for quite some time. Now. Did you see Anthony Edwards, man,
he is he's a quote machine. He said Michael Jordan
was the only NBA player with skill in older generations.
(03:54):
He did an interview with the Wall Street Journal. So
here's Anthony Edwards or the Timberwolves, and he said he
can't speak on it because he didn't see it. He
wasn't born.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Then.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Everybody tells me that it was tougher back then. I
don't think anybody had skill. Back then, Jordan was the
only one that really had skill, you know what I mean.
So that's why when they saw Kobe, they were like,
oh my god. But now everybody has skill. So you
might have some old school folks who would say, you know,
(04:26):
Bird and Magic seem to have some skill there. You know,
the game has changed the game. You could be an enforcer,
you could be you know, we had power forwards back then.
The center mattered and he played on the low post,
So it's a different game. As far as the skill,
you know, just running and jumping is not the only
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skill in basketball.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Do I think that there are far more talented the
big men are far more skilled versatile. Absolutely, But I
would think there's probably a couple of players that were
playing in say the eighties or nineties, that you would say, yeah,
they've got a lot of a lot of town. Like
last night, Look, Vince Carter seemed to have a lot
(05:09):
of skill a little bit, Tracy McGrady had a lot
of skill. Penny Hardaway had a lot of skill.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Yes, Mark, But even in Jordan's era, Isaiah Thomas is
one of those guys where his name doesn't get brought
up enough. He would be averaging, He'd be He'd be
Shay Gilders Alexander, He'd be putting up thirty a night
in his NBA, shooting more threes, getting the ball in
his hand, more possessions. Isaiah Thomas would go off in
this era.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I think Magic would be unstoppable in today's game.
Bird would he would be even better in today's game.
I just I feel like the ability, you know, Bird
wasn't taken more than three threes a game. Now it's open, Hey,
how many do you want to take? You can take ten.
Nobody's complaining. It's not a bad shot anymore. The philosophy
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of basketball has changed. It's you can have a two,
We're going to take a three. But I think we
get caught up in running and jumping, and that's the
skill set, and that's the problem that Anthony Edwards is
falling victim too.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yes, Paul, yeah, I think you're absolutely right. People think
that skill means jumping and speed. But then if you
look at two of the best players in the league,
Nicola Jokic, he does not jump a lot, he does
not run a lot. He's just a chess player out there.
And then Steph Curry. You can make the case that
he's not a physical freak. He's a skilled ballplayer, but
his skill is finding his own shot. So I don't
(06:35):
know what Anthony Edwards is. I think he's US athleticism
in steap skill.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Maybe well yeah, because he's looking at Jordan and Kobe
and they were very similar. Vince Carter was, as you know,
athletic as them, maybe not as good as them, but
still athletic. I think we get caught up in like
we forget what is basketball can be. I'm a good passer,
I'm a good rebotter, i can block a shot, I
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can get my shot. I'm a really good deep shooter.
There's a variety of ways that you can display skill
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, I think physicality is often a replacement for skill.
You're not as skilled, but you're a super physical player,
so you don't need a lot of skill to do
sort of force your way through something right that would
take skill takes a lot of technique. So and I
don't necessarily think that even say with Vince Carter, athleticism
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also isn't skill. Being able to run and jump high
doesn't mean that you're a skilled player. It means that
you're super athletic. So those are those are very different things.
Like I would say that Steph is super skilled, Kyrie
is crazy skilled.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. Yeah, And maybe in that.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Era that Anthony Edwards is referring to the skill set
there were a few people here and there, but it
wasn't quite.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
What the league is today in terms of skill.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, I look at Luca and Luca is skilled at scoring,
but you know he's not fast, he can't jump, he
doesn't play good defense. And then the Joker, he's not fast,
he doesn't jump it. Basketball is so much more mental
than people really believe. Those guys want to believe.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes they are.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's your definition of skill. There's athletic and then there's skill.
And I think Anthony should probably go back and watch
more video before he says something like this, because while
Jordan was extremely athletic, he wasn't the only athletic guy
back then. He just stood out because Mike would stand
out now if he was playing, we'd be like, wow,
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he's six six and he's dominating.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Yes, Marvin, that's why we put Lebron and Michael Jordan
up there at the top of the list, upper echelant
because they were athletic and skilled. There's plenty of guys
that are just athletes and it's like, all right, he's
the eighth pick in the draft and he average four
points a game. Well we're getting because he can running, jump,
what else can he do?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right?
Speaker 7 (09:01):
But there's other guys where it's like Luca and Joker
they're skipped. But Lebron and Jordan, they were athletic and skilled.
They can both pass the ball and do everything anything
they wanted to do with the basketball, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But Steph Curry, he doesn't do other things. Well, he
just does one thing better than anybody in the history
of the sport. Because he's not a defender. You're not fast,
can't jump. Uh, not a great passer. Underrated ball handler, yes,
underrated ball handling absolutely, But he's the greatest shooter in
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the history of the game. Yes, Michael Jordan today would
be Joe Johnson.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
By your time, I had just explore what he would
be that guy.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
You're like, oh, yeah, he's nice, Joe Johnson, Joseph Joe Johnson.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah he's nice. Yeah, So that's Anthony Edwards. In an
interview with The Wall Street Journal, Michael Jordan the only
NBA player with skill in older generations. All right, poll
question for hour two is going to.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Be not Seaton.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't know what it is about this chair that
just makes you want to say stupid stuff to see
what's action.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Sometimes I just entertain.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I'm like, wait, is mc lovin here you saying
something stupid?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So what what's pole question for hour two?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We just put up there the who would be a
pro bowler of these quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, okay, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Bo Nicks, Caleb Williams.
Right now, the early voting has Caleb Williams at about
fifty four percent of the vote, Jaden Daniels about twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, I could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'd probably agree with that. I have to look at
the talent around you, because I don't know. I think
Bo Nicks is going to be a good quarterback for Denver,
but I don't know. You know what weapons they have. Uh,
the Bears have weapons they have They have a tight
end and two receivers that he's gonna throw to and
a good running back. He I mean, that's all you
(11:09):
can ask for rookie quarterback. Give me some weapons. He
certainly has the weapons. Jayden Daniels. H McLaurin is a
great talent. You know. I don't know how many weapons
they have, but I do think that he is probably
gonna rush for seven hundred yards this year, you know,
(11:30):
maybe maybe even more than that. Uh with Washington, Drake May,
I don't know if he's going to start. Bo. I
think it's gonna be good. Michael Pennix Junior, the third
is not going to play, at least not yet. Who
else did I I leave out anybody there? Uh. JJ
McCarthy's done for the year as well. That's still a
(11:51):
great mystery. It's like, no play, wasn't it didn't get hit,
and you know, just wear and tear. I would think
that you would be able to spot wear and tear
when you do your physical you go in there and
they check you out. I would think that they would say,
you know what, we got some issues here, slight tear,
(12:12):
maybe some fraying. You know, I have that in my shoulder.
Went for an MRI and they're like, yeah, you know
you're going to need it scoped. Well, if you don't
go in then you probably don't know what you know
is looming in there. For JJ McCarthy, I was just
kind of surprised it came out of nowhere because I
thought PAULI even said, did he get hit in the game?
I go, no, They said it might have just been
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the turf and maybe just overall wear and tear on that.
But you got justin Herbert back clear do practice and
Jayden Daniels announced as the starter for the Commanders USC
has Caleb Williams successor Miller Moss is going to be
the starter I think he's thrown six touchdown passes and
(12:55):
all six came in the Holiday Bowl. Does that sound right?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
For?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
He was awesome in the Holiday Bawl for Miller Moss.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And we're already coming up, like you know, if he's good,
he's going to be Massome. And then we come up.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
I think you got something there?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, what do you think Tom?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
We got to go?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
That's a share?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know, get some USC colors there and uh I
print those up, get on that seat.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Yes, Mark, did Randy Moss copyright Moss? You got Moss. Yeah,
but he didn't get Mawsome at least I don't think.
I don't want another cease and to sist. You know,
we still have that letter that we got from the
Tom Brady's camp. Oh my goodness when we received that
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and I was like, oh my god, we're going we're
going down like he We're gonna get sued by Brady
because we did Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We did it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Before he did it, and then he came in and
you know, had these big lawyers. We didn't know how
powerful the lawyers were until McLevin, being a law NERD goes, uh,
you don't want to mess with them. You don't want
to mess with them, Paul, he's got the cease and desist. Yeah,
I got the actual letter. I'm gonna maybe get Tom
to sign it someday and put.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
On my wall.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
It's Latham and Watkins and Mcluby goes, oh no, not them,
like they've got a rep Yeah. Yeah. It was sent
to us by registered mail, both FedEx and the UPS.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
They sent it twice, by the way. Yeah, and it says, well.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I didn't want to be served, you know, you have
to be here like they serve your papers. And I'm
like hiding. I'm like, I don't want I don't want that.
And there came back again. Their letter to us. It
just it has all their it has their firm affiliate offices.
They've got twenty worldwide offices. It's like they're throwing it
in our face right out of the way. Yeah, and
then it says two Dan Patrick custom shirts at all,
(14:49):
which means all of us, this firm represents quarterback and
six times Super Bowl champion Tom Brady and his intellectual
property matters. It has come to our attention that you
were selling T shirts and violation of mister Brady's intellectual rights.
We immediately we appreciate your enthusiasm for Mister Brady has
recent moved to Tampa Bay and requests that you us
immediately stopped selling all merchandise.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, didn't they say his name is Tom?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
As you know, mister Brady recently announced we joined Tampa Brady.
Mister Brady's first name is Tom and where's number twelve?
He recently filed for a trade bark for Tampa Bay,
even though it was after us, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
After us, we came up with it. Yes, didn't we
find it at least for a few seconds.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Pretty cool?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Well we got this note from Tom Brady, you immediately
were in Oh no.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, absolutely. I think Seaton and Ben Paulie might have
been like this. School mc loveman was like, these guys
are serious, and I just kept thinking, I'm gonna get
sued by Tom Brady over Tampa Bay. And then I
forget who said, Hey, we came up with it, let's
go back after him. I go, no, no, no, no,
(15:55):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Going to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We were gonna be the falls of lawsuits. Yeah, we'll
be the big underdog and come after you. I remember
when we heard from the Masters with a T shirt.
We didn't get a cease and desist. I don't think
just a hey, stop stop doing that. And we're like, okay,
that's why they're like, stop doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Stop doing anything with the colors green, yellow, anything with
flowers or trees, anything with grass, anything with a golf
club or ball, anything.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
T shirt. That was a great T shirt. And they
even admitted, you know, the lawyer goes, look, it's too good,
and I said, well, okay. He said, you got it.
You gotta stop. It's too good. And I said, okay, yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's funny that we at the end of the Tom
Brady lawsuits mail it says we appreciate remedying this immediately
and I would like an email letter and email back
this week.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
They weren't kidding around. They wanted it like immediately.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Remember when we had there was somebody from the Big
twelve came in and we had the a T shirt.
Somebody sent in and it was the Baylor Bear doing
the Heisman pose, or maybe it was somebody from the Heisman.
I forget there's somebody from the Heisman. I think they
came in.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That was RG three.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That was the RG three shirt and that wasn't ours,
but it was somebody else's and they were like, oh,
contraband hanging on the wall.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
They immediately keyed into Okay, So whoever that is, we're
suing them great like that.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh like, we don't want our inventory to be too popular.
We just wanted to, you know, not fall into the
wrong hands there you know somebody who might be representing
that product. All right, let me take a break. We'll
talk to Diana Russini, NFL Insider. Always great to talk
to her. And some baseball with Tim Kirchin. Coming up
next hour. Baseball's floating out a minimum six inning pitching rule,
(17:52):
and we'll talk to Tim about that, also about the
possibility of Shoheu Tani going fifty to fifty or back.
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Speaker 2 (18:43):
Seating Update the poll results, because I'm going to ask
Diana Orsini the same question.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
If you had to pick one to make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Right now, we have Caleb Williams with about fifty five
percent of the vote, followed by Jaden Daniels at about
twenty four, Bo Nix and Drake May long shots.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, let's bringing Diana Rassini, the Athletics senior n F insider,
co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with our
buddy Chase Daniel. And let me start there. Who do
you think has the best chance to be a Pro
Bowl quarterback this year?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Well, I want to go with the people who know football,
and those are head coaches who I've been talking to
over the last week, Some coaches that I was even
talking to over the weekend as they were waiting to
go out and play their own games, and they had
the Bears game on and they were checking Caleb Williams out.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
And he is.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
As advertised in terms of being ready for this offense,
being pro ready. And look, we spent the entire offseason
singing his praise. Is highlighting how good of a player is.
It was a short thing that Chicago was going for him.
Probably about a week before the combine was when the
conversations really started to pick up that they were definitely
(19:55):
going to go with Caleb. And it was very difficult
to find an organization that didn't believe that Caleb was
the best quarterback of this class. So the fact that
he's already been able to start working towards being a
starter and a ready one and one that is good
to probably have a lot of success this season, especially
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with the way they built the Chicago Bears team. My
vote is for Caleb. But it is so good to
be back, Dan. I feel like it's been a while.
Ye last time. The last time we chatted, I think
I was still at ESPN. I think I was in
stephen A's office with a cowboy hat on and a
cigar in my mouth. And if I recall, well, I
think we were talking about what the New York Jets
(20:36):
were selling to Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay and essentially,
come here, you can win a Super Bowl, We'll give
you everything. So two years later, two kids later, we
are back.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay, if you gave the Jets a do over, where
or am I starting? Would they keep Aaron Rodgers? Would
they still go after Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah? This has always been a great decision, the way
they've orchestrated this, or choreograph, the way this all came together.
At the time I was on television, I was writing
that the New York Jets are brilliant. They're doing what
they should be doing. An organization that hasn't won a lot,
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that hasn't had a lot of success, is handing over
the keys to a guy who knows how to do it,
a guy who understands how to win, how to run
a hard practice, how to win in big moments, and
how to lead a locker room. Give the keys to
Aaron Rodgers made all the sense in the world. But
what I didn't see in the moment, as someone covering
that team pretty closely, was that when you hand the
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keys to Aaron Rodgers, then all the rules go out
the window too. And I think the team ran into
a lot of issues, not just in the off season,
but during that time when they were trying to build
what they were going to be and Aaron say at
times became a problem because that's not exactly what the
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head coach wanted to do. It's not what the GM
wanted to do all the time. So once the toothpaste
was out of the bottle, there that it was hard
to get it back in.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So, yeah, he brought in players who you know, he's
not a good GM. Yeah, you know the players that
he wanted brought in.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, he wanted players that he was comfortable with. And
it's not like I ever saw that list that he
handed over to the Jets that he shared with them
that most of them made sense to me at the time.
This is, you know, Aaron wants to be comfortable. He
wants to be around guys that he's played with before.
With the exception of Odell Beckham Junior, I think that
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was really the only one on the list that he
had never played with. But the Jets granted a lot
of those wishes, not all of them, a lot of them.
Remember David Bactiari was on that list that never worked out,
and look, Alan Wizard's having a better camp now, but
that obviously didn't work out great last year. He wasn't
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doing much. Nathaniel Hackett is a really important element. Granted
he was hired before Rodgers became a Jet officially, but
obviously there were conversations being had Nathaniel Hackett's not getting
the offensive coordinator job for the New York Jets if
Aaron Rodgers isn't telling Woody this is what I want
right that he wanted his play caller there, and it
still makes all the sense in the world. This offseason,
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the Jets looked into adding another offensive coach, though they
talked to Arthur Smith. There was a time where they
wanted to bring Arthur Smith in to assist with perhaps
some of the play calling that they thought wasn't as
sharp as they wanted to be, that maybe Nathaniel Hackett
was losing his fastball, but that didn't work out. Obviously,
(23:55):
Arthur Smith now in Pittsburgh and he's got his own
set of challenges as we speak.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I know you spent some time with Sean Payton and
bo Nicks seems to be picking up Sean's system, which
isn't easy for anybody to pick up, but he seems
to be thriving. When does Sean make the call on
who's his starting quarterback?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Yeah, I expect Boonicks to be named the quarterback over
the next few days. Sean hasn't done any media, I think,
since their preseason game, so I'm expecting when he steps
up to the microphone, most likely tomorrow, I would see
I could see that possibly happening. Look, I spent two
days around them and Dan. There's when you stop by
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a lot of different camps, you can there's a vibe
there is. It's not made up, you can feel it
on the ground. And the vibes in Denver were extraordinary,
from the head coach to the quarterback. And yet the
stars of the camp from my perspective, was actually the
Denver Broncos defense. Yes, bo Nicks and Sean Payton appear
(24:59):
to be a marriage meant to be. Sean Payton joined
my podcast Scoop City, and normally I like to have
my guests on for about ten minutes. Sean was on
with us for forty minutes, and that's not because I
ask good questions. It's because he talks a lot, and
when he's happy, he talks plenty, and he is glowing
about what bow Nicks has been able to do. And
(25:21):
a lot of it has to do with his experience
in college. Obviously, he's twenty four years old, he's had
sixty one starts, He's had the most experience in going
back to even that draft process, I recall, you know,
lots of GM sharing with me and even guys that
were doing the work on these players that Bo was
in that category of Caleb in terms of being pro ready, right.
(25:42):
A lot of these other guys needed a little bit
more time, right. So Sean's leaning into the fact that
he can understand what is being asked of him. He's
not panicking in the pocket. He appears to be a
veteran type of player out there when you're watching him.
And then let's just talk about this quarterback room in Denver, rights,
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it's a bizarre one. You have Jared Stidham, who was
with Sean last year. You've got Zach Wilson traded from
the Jets now in Denver, and you have this rookie
bow Nicks and Zach Wilson's only like three months older
than Bo Nicks, so I say veteran, but it's not
like he's this big older brother. He just had a
little bit more experience than Bo. And you've got Davis Webb,
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the former backup quarterback of the New York Giants now
the quarterbacks coach there, which he's getting tons of praise
out there what he's been able to do in terms
of teaching this Sean Payton offense. Because I asked Bo
how he was digesting Sean all of it, from the
play calling to just Sean Payton, the person, the coach,
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the demands, the standard he holds for a quarterback, and
you know, he said that he just felt that everyone
has been on the same page and Sean has been
almost a better listener than a talker, which obviously was
the opposite on my podcast, that He's just done a
good job of understanding what Bow needs and Sean is
supplying that. And Sean even shared that with his play calling,
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he's cut down some of it to help Bo take
this next step and get comfortable in this offense.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Talking to Diana Roussini, the athletics senior NFL Insider co
host of Scoop City Podcast with Chase Daniel. Tom Brady
over the weekend at the Fanatics Fest talked about the
tragedy of forcing rookie quarterbacks to play early. Seems like
a little bit of hyperbole with the tragedy. We're there,
(27:38):
But as you've mentioned, Jaden Daniels, bow Knicks, Caleb Williams,
they've been quarterbacks with two different universities, two different offenses,
and they played upwards of forty five to sixty games.
I don't and they've gotten their money nil. It feels
like they're more pro ready than they've ever been. And
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I don't know if Tom is just thinking what it
was like when he was seventh string quarterback in New
England and moved up to be the third string and
then eventually the starter.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But is it a tragedy of what we're doing with
rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yeah. My takeaway from listening to Tom specifically talking on
the topic was more his experience of playing the position
and the challenges it brings, and it was almost like
he was admitting that this is a tall task, this
is hard. I had to go through this, this and this,
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and I think it's also human nature. We tend to
reflect back on our own experiences and you sort of
become the old man in the room now that I'm
calling Tom olds. But the way he reflects on his
career may not be exactly the way the game is now.
And I'll call them my football dads, the men that
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I've been around all the year that have helped me
understand this game and get better as a reporter covering it.
They would probably most of them, the majority of them
would probably side with Tom Brady in this respect because
there is definitely definitely value to sitting. I mean, everyone
uses the example because it's the best example, and that's
Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City having that time to sit
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and watch and learn and grow. Despite the fact that,
if you recall, we would hear during the season during
practices from players chatting behind Alex Smith's back. I guess
how good Patrick Mahomes was that he was already blowing
them away, but just getting that time to adjust and learn.
I spoke to Jordan Love on Friday. It was such
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a great conversation about that first year, not just the
hype around him, the fact that he became this controversial
quarterback to join the Green Bay Packers, knowing that Aaron
Rodgers obviously the start and the Green Bay Packers did
what they did at the time, the drama surrounding that,
forget that he did talk about it, but forget that
for this. For what I want to talk about, though,
is his ability to play in the NFL at that time.
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And I joked to him, I said, let's pull some
film ovele from your practices that that year. He's like,
oh my god, please, don't please. I don't even know
who that guy is. I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He is, you know.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And I appreciated how candid he was about it and
obviously very confident in what he is and who he
is now to go, yeah, I sunk. I was not good.
And look, I can remember back Jordan's first and second
year talking to people in Green Bay being like, Yep,
we messed up. He ain't the guy. Well, guess who's
the guy now? Guess who's blowing coaches the way, Guess
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whos understanding the offense? Guess who is the clear leader,
clear leader on the field when you're watching the Packers.
And just from the way he conducts himself and just
his understanding of what his job is now. And I
think him getting this deal done was the best for
his overall confidence, and I felt it to just just
talking to him. So really, to go back to your
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question about Brady, I do think times have changed, and
it's great that this quarterback crop we're gonna truly see it.
We're gonna be able to see some of these guys
that are to sit and some of these guys that
are to play, and more are going to be playing.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Obviously, as you as you pointed out, we got Caleb
and Jayden. I think JJ McCarthy had a really good
shot there before he got hurt. I was with Minnesota
the day that news came out. That was not fun.
You know, coach was heartbroken about it. The whole team was.
You just you felt that they just felt for the kid,
because I do think the plan was to play Sam,
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but JJ was making a strong case to get in there,
you know. And then and then now you have bo
Nix here, who who who seems such he won this
job fair and square.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, before I let you go, you were talking about
training camps have a vibe. Uh, you know, when you're
defending champs or you did well, you didn't do well,
and you go to camp them. When's the last time
you were at a training camp and you go, oh boy,
this isn't gonna be a good season.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Last week, we guess, guess the team, and it's like,
go to my Instagram, Look at all my pictures of
all the different pieces they stopped at to show the world.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Look at me.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I'm working.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay, everybody gets one guess. Hold on, Pauline, I'm gonna
just think, hold on, okay, but hold on. We got
a guess.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Okay, Paulie, your guests, the New York Giants, all right, Fritzy,
I'm gonna say New England, Okay, Seaton.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I don't remember which teams looked at last week.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Uh, I would say probably New England too.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Actually, all right, Marvin Titans, Titans. I'm gonna go Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Great. Guess I know why you did, because you were thinking, Oh,
the day that JJ McCarthy news comes out, maybe everyone
you know was a little on focus. Maybe they were
all alphabet Great. Guess it was the team that they
were practicing against that day, actually, and it was the
Cleveland Browns. And I just happened to be there on
a day that the offense was just off the offensive
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line didn't look as sharp as I was expecting them to.
Deshaun didn't look like he had a lot of presence
out there. Now I'm going to add I then returned
and it was different. But to your question of do
you ever show up, you know this isn't I'm not
a believer in Oh every camp is so great and
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everyone is optimistic. Yes, people are happy, people are excited
because everyone has the same record right now when everyone
believes that they're going to be the best team. But
the value of these joint practices has helped really sort
of burst a lot of bubbles. The question I would
have preferred was what's the camp I went to where
I went.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Oh wow?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
And that was the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Holy cow.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I know I knew they were good when I showed up.
I left like and look, I went on a day
that everyone told me CJ was unbeeskievable, but I just
was watching, going who.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Is going the super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Context all in on the Houston Texans, just based on
what they're building. Okay, something even simple and small. This
is tiny, but this is important and it's been told
to me by many people. It's important in the big,
grand scheme of things. When they make good plays during
the preseason, when guys are scoring touchdowns, backups players that
we may never even see again in the NFL, the
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way the sideline, the way the starters are running down
into the end zone and showing that support. Because what
that is. That's culture, right, that's the Miko Ryans. That's
him saying we are going to be there for everybody
on this team, not just the superstars. And I felt
it when I was there. I had conversations Stefan Diggs
told me this has just been refreshing for him. He's
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growing up. He reflects on some of his younger years
and just knows he made some mistakes and is ready
now to really try to be the best at his position.
And based on what I was watching out there, he's
just been such an added bonus to this offense.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Great to catch up with you. We'll talk to you
during the season, and good luck with Scoop City podcast
with our buddy Chase Daniel.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Thank you, Diana, thank you.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I can't wait for the aggregators Russini Cleveland Brown's horrendous
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Diana Rossini, the athletics senior NFL insider co host of
the Athletics Scoop City Podcast with Chase Daniel. When we
come back. A John Madden movie it's happening.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
We'll get to more phone calls coming up. There's a
John Madden movie that is going to be made. Nicholas
Cage is set to portray John Madden, and I was
curious and I placed a call yesterday afternoon about what
is the movie going to be around about? And then
I also saw where there was a report it's a
(36:24):
video game movie, so it's about the story of Madden NFL,
which of course one of the biggest video game franchises
of all time. And the director, David o' russell has
had a couple of sports movies. He did The Fighter,
he did Silver Linings Playbook. I think there's maybe one
(36:44):
other American American Hustle. Oh yeah, that was very good too,
not a sports movie, but had a lot of star
power in there. So it was reiterated to me that
this is really about the creation of Madden and a
video game, and a lot of times we'll see these
movies and you go like Moneyball. Now if you said, hey,
(37:09):
this is what Moneyball is about. It's about GM and
he is going to have a different way of cost cutting,
maybe have a small budget to work with, and it's
going to be about the Oakland as well. It became
more than just that. Bull Durham. Bull Durham is not
a baseball movie. It's about a relationship or relationships that
(37:33):
sometimes we get fooled. Hoosier's is not a basketball movie
in my opinion. Hoosier's is about relationships and how you
deal with those relationships on and off the basketball floor
in life. And maybe that's what this will be. So
when we say it's going to be a video game movie,
I don't know if they're going to give you the
(37:54):
backdrop on John Madden. A lot of people may not
even know that he was a Hall of Fame coach
with the Raiders. He coached for ten years and won
over one hundred games, and then became a broadcaster. So
he's had three different careers. He was coach and then
he was Madden, and then he was the maybe the
(38:15):
best football analyst we've ever had. And so the popularities there,
storylines are interesting. It was like when it was brought
up to me by somebody in Hollywood, they said, they're
still thinking about how do they do a movie about ESPN?
How do they do a movie about Sports Center? It
won't be I mean, it'll be about relationships. I'm guessing
(38:37):
I don't know what period they've talked about the beginning
of ESPN, how ESPN got on the air, social network.
If you would have said, hey, here's the movie, and
you go, I don't think I'm too interested in that,
and then you saw the movie and you go, it's
about relationships, yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
When I first heard about this movie, I thought it
would be more about John Mann's football career. But you're
saying it's about the video game. I wonder if they
saw the movie air with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon
bought Michael Jordan signing with Nike, and it's like, this
this urban legend story that you heard about for years,
and let's let's do it. It's still John Madden, it's
still Michael Jordan. There's a market for this type of
(39:16):
story to be told.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, And that was another thing. It was about Sonny
Baccaro signing Michael Jordan and you know, changing the shoe industry.
But at the time when you go, what's it about, Oh,
it's about the guy who signed Michael Jordan. Well, it
becomes the relationships, you know, decisions that were made or
not made, people who were forward and against it. I
(39:38):
don't know what the backdrop is going to be with
Madden of creating this. What went into this was their questions, controversy,
all of those things. But you know, John was such
a unique personality that but Nicholas Cage was the I
think Will Ferrell was trying for the role, but Nicholas
Cage is set to portrayed Madden. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Well, according to a backstory, the first choice was not
John Madden for the video game when it's being developed.
Guess who they went to first, but because he was
still playing, had another deal with the video game.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Joe Montana Joe Mutt Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, a lot of dope, a lot of yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
My dojo.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, that's a lot of coin there, Joe did, okay,
but Madden, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I think they were looking at Hugh Jackman as maybe
being involved in this, but they decided on Nicholas Cage.
That's where you want to see, how are they going
to make Nicholas Cage look. That's when it starts to
set in where you're like, damn, he looks just like
John Madden. We'll talk some baseball with Tim Kirkchin Show.
Hey o Tani fifty to fifty question mark
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hour two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan
Ens Dan Patrick Show come on in stay a while.
The Minister of Humor Fritzi is here. Seaton, Marv Paulie
and yours truly. Day two in the main Cave. Got
a pull question from our one. We'll clean that up.
Got one for hour two. We'll check in with NFL
reporter insider Diana Russini.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
She will join us.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She's spent some time with Bo Nix and Sean Payton.
Is Bonick's going to be the starter in Denver. She's
been bouncing around training camp. So we'll talk to Diana
Russini here in a little bit. All right, Seaton, poll
question from our one, and then what are we going
to go with our two?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, we have up there which coaching style, work's best,
criticism and tough love or support and encouragement right now?
The support and encouragement part winning sixty five percent? OK,
that's interesting, all right?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Uh Russell put up there.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Also put up there if I had to pick one
to make the Pro Bowl, Jaden Daniels, Drake may Bow Nicks, Caleb.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Williams, no Drake May.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You don't have to take one one representative from every team,
because then maybe he would have a shot. He might start,
Which is kind of surprising because I think most analysts
were saying that he needed probably the most work of
the you know, the first round quarterbacks here. Talent wise,
he has that, but I don't know if he's going.
(01:35):
If Belichick was there, I don't think Drake May would
be in contention to start.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, see right now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Unfortunately, Drake May has three point two percent of the votes. Okay,
he is very much in lasts. Okay, let me get
through the details here. Each seven to seven three DP show,
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, we say good
morning to our radio affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio, Fox
Sports Radio as well. Justin Herbert back to practice. Cleared
to practice. Jaden Daniels would be the starter for the Commanders.
(02:04):
And there's talk that NFL players in the Olympics, and
this is flag football.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So I don't know how this came up that we
felt the need to have NFL players play flag football,
but there's been a real push with the NFL and
the NFL Players Association. The NFL will be involved in this,
and you're going to have players who strictly play flag
football who we're going to have a problem with the
(02:34):
NFL trying to bigfoot to get in here. But if
you can put big names in there in the Olympics,
I don't know if you're going to get Patrick Mahomes
wanting to play or Tyreek Hill wanting to play. But
if you're the Olympics and you're NBC, You're like, the
more names we can get in here, the better off
we're going to be. I just don't know where this
(02:55):
push came from. That flag football in the Olympics will
watch it. I just didn't know where the initiative was
kind of hatched, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
There's a statement by Jeff Miller from the NFL said
a number of players have shown interest in the twenty
twenty eight Olympics to participate. One of them was Patrick
Mahomes that said, if I own the Kansas City Chiefs,
I love my country. I love my country, but I
don't love my country enough to let Patrick Mahomes play
any side football.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, but isn't there something in the NBA the NBA,
the owners can't prevent their players from playing in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yees a basketball. Yeah, it comes off.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Mark Cuban couldn't do it with Luca And I don't
know if the NFL is going to have to adopt
that because NBA players have been playing in the Olympics
for quite some time. Now. Did you see Anthony Edwards, man,
he is he's a quote machine. He said Michael Jordan
was the only NBA player with skill in older generations.
(03:54):
He did an interview with the Wall Street Journal. So
here's Anthony Edwards or the Timberwolves, and he said he
can't speak on it because he didn't see it. He
wasn't born.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Then.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Everybody tells me that it was tougher back then. I
don't think anybody had skill. Back then, Jordan was the
only one that really had skill, you know what I mean.
So that's why when they saw Kobe, they were like,
oh my god. But now everybody has skill. So you
might have some old school folks who would say, you know,
(04:26):
Bird and Magic seem to have some skill there. You know,
the game has changed the game. You could be an enforcer,
you could be you know, we had power forwards back then.
The center mattered and he played on the low post,
So it's a different game. As far as the skill,
you know, just running and jumping is not the only
(04:46):
skill in basketball.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Do I think that there are far more talented the
big men are far more skilled versatile. Absolutely, But I
would think there's probably a couple of players that were
playing in say the eighties or nineties, that you would say, yeah,
they've got a lot of a lot of town. Like
last night, Look, Vince Carter seemed to have a lot
(05:09):
of skill a little bit, Tracy McGrady had a lot
of skill. Penny Hardaway had a lot of skill.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Yes, Mark, But even in Jordan's era, Isaiah Thomas is
one of those guys where his name doesn't get brought
up enough. He would be averaging, He'd be He'd be
Shay Gilders Alexander, He'd be putting up thirty a night
in his NBA, shooting more threes, getting the ball in
his hand, more possessions. Isaiah Thomas would go off in
this era.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I think Magic would be unstoppable in today's game.
Bird would he would be even better in today's game.
I just I feel like the ability, you know, Bird
wasn't taken more than three threes a game. Now it's open, Hey,
how many do you want to take? You can take ten.
Nobody's complaining. It's not a bad shot anymore. The philosophy
(05:57):
of basketball has changed. It's you can have a two,
We're going to take a three. But I think we
get caught up in running and jumping, and that's the
skill set, and that's the problem that Anthony Edwards is
falling victim too.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yes, Paul, yeah, I think you're absolutely right. People think
that skill means jumping and speed. But then if you
look at two of the best players in the league,
Nicola Jokic, he does not jump a lot, he does
not run a lot. He's just a chess player out there.
And then Steph Curry. You can make the case that
he's not a physical freak. He's a skilled ballplayer, but
his skill is finding his own shot. So I don't
(06:35):
know what Anthony Edwards is. I think he's US athleticism
in steap skill.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Maybe well yeah, because he's looking at Jordan and Kobe
and they were very similar. Vince Carter was, as you know,
athletic as them, maybe not as good as them, but
still athletic. I think we get caught up in like
we forget what is basketball can be. I'm a good passer,
I'm a good rebotter, i can block a shot, I
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can get my shot. I'm a really good deep shooter.
There's a variety of ways that you can display skill
in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, I think physicality is often a replacement for skill.
You're not as skilled, but you're a super physical player,
so you don't need a lot of skill to do
sort of force your way through something right that would
take skill takes a lot of technique. So and I
don't necessarily think that even say with Vince Carter, athleticism
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also isn't skill. Being able to run and jump high
doesn't mean that you're a skilled player. It means that
you're super athletic. So those are those are very different things.
Like I would say that Steph is super skilled, Kyrie
is crazy skilled.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. Yeah, And maybe in that.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Era that Anthony Edwards is referring to the skill set
there were a few people here and there, but it
wasn't quite.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
What the league is today in terms of skill.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, I look at Luca and Luca is skilled at scoring,
but you know he's not fast, he can't jump, he
doesn't play good defense. And then the Joker, he's not fast,
he doesn't jump it. Basketball is so much more mental
than people really believe. Those guys want to believe.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes they are.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's your definition of skill. There's athletic and then there's skill.
And I think Anthony should probably go back and watch
more video before he says something like this, because while
Jordan was extremely athletic, he wasn't the only athletic guy
back then. He just stood out because Mike would stand
out now if he was playing, we'd be like, wow,
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he's six six and he's dominating.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Yes, Marvin, that's why we put Lebron and Michael Jordan
up there at the top of the list, upper echelant
because they were athletic and skilled. There's plenty of guys
that are just athletes and it's like, all right, he's
the eighth pick in the draft and he average four
points a game. Well we're getting because he can running, jump,
what else can he do?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right?
Speaker 7 (09:01):
But there's other guys where it's like Luca and Joker
they're skipped. But Lebron and Jordan, they were athletic and skilled.
They can both pass the ball and do everything anything
they wanted to do with the basketball, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But Steph Curry, he doesn't do other things. Well, he
just does one thing better than anybody in the history
of the sport. Because he's not a defender. You're not fast,
can't jump. Uh, not a great passer. Underrated ball handler, yes,
underrated ball handling absolutely, But he's the greatest shooter in
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the history of the game. Yes, Michael Jordan today would
be Joe Johnson.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
By your time, I had just explore what he would
be that guy.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
You're like, oh, yeah, he's nice, Joe Johnson, Joseph Joe Johnson.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah he's nice. Yeah, So that's Anthony Edwards. In an
interview with The Wall Street Journal, Michael Jordan the only
NBA player with skill in older generations. All right, poll
question for hour two is going to.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Be not Seaton.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't know what it is about this chair that
just makes you want to say stupid stuff to see
what's action.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Sometimes I just entertain.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I'm like, wait, is mc lovin here you saying
something stupid?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So what what's pole question for hour two?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We just put up there the who would be a
pro bowler of these quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, okay, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Bo Nicks, Caleb Williams.
Right now, the early voting has Caleb Williams at about
fifty four percent of the vote, Jaden Daniels about twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, I could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'd probably agree with that. I have to look at
the talent around you, because I don't know. I think
Bo Nicks is going to be a good quarterback for Denver,
but I don't know. You know what weapons they have. Uh,
the Bears have weapons they have They have a tight
end and two receivers that he's gonna throw to and
a good running back. He I mean, that's all you
(11:09):
can ask for rookie quarterback. Give me some weapons. He
certainly has the weapons. Jayden Daniels. H McLaurin is a
great talent. You know. I don't know how many weapons
they have, but I do think that he is probably
gonna rush for seven hundred yards this year, you know,
(11:30):
maybe maybe even more than that. Uh with Washington, Drake May,
I don't know if he's going to start. Bo. I
think it's gonna be good. Michael Pennix Junior, the third
is not going to play, at least not yet. Who
else did I I leave out anybody there? Uh. JJ
McCarthy's done for the year as well. That's still a
(11:51):
great mystery. It's like, no play, wasn't it didn't get hit,
and you know, just wear and tear. I would think
that you would be able to spot wear and tear
when you do your physical you go in there and
they check you out. I would think that they would say,
you know what, we got some issues here, slight tear,
(12:12):
maybe some fraying. You know, I have that in my shoulder.
Went for an MRI and they're like, yeah, you know
you're going to need it scoped. Well, if you don't
go in then you probably don't know what you know
is looming in there. For JJ McCarthy, I was just
kind of surprised it came out of nowhere because I
thought PAULI even said, did he get hit in the game?
I go, no, They said it might have just been
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the turf and maybe just overall wear and tear on that.
But you got justin Herbert back clear do practice and
Jayden Daniels announced as the starter for the Commanders USC
has Caleb Williams successor Miller Moss is going to be
the starter I think he's thrown six touchdown passes and
(12:55):
all six came in the Holiday Bowl. Does that sound right?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
For?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
He was awesome in the Holiday Bawl for Miller Moss.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And we're already coming up, like you know, if he's good,
he's going to be Massome. And then we come up.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
I think you got something there?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, what do you think Tom?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
We got to go?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
That's a share?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know, get some USC colors there and uh I
print those up, get on that seat.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Yes, Mark, did Randy Moss copyright Moss? You got Moss. Yeah,
but he didn't get Mawsome at least I don't think.
I don't want another cease and to sist. You know,
we still have that letter that we got from the
Tom Brady's camp. Oh my goodness when we received that
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and I was like, oh my god, we're going we're
going down like he We're gonna get sued by Brady
because we did Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We did it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Before he did it, and then he came in and
you know, had these big lawyers. We didn't know how
powerful the lawyers were until McLevin, being a law NERD goes, uh,
you don't want to mess with them. You don't want
to mess with them, Paul, he's got the cease and desist. Yeah,
I got the actual letter. I'm gonna maybe get Tom
to sign it someday and put.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
On my wall.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
It's Latham and Watkins and Mcluby goes, oh no, not them,
like they've got a rep Yeah. Yeah. It was sent
to us by registered mail, both FedEx and the UPS.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
They sent it twice, by the way. Yeah, and it says, well.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I didn't want to be served, you know, you have
to be here like they serve your papers. And I'm
like hiding. I'm like, I don't want I don't want that.
And there came back again. Their letter to us. It
just it has all their it has their firm affiliate offices.
They've got twenty worldwide offices. It's like they're throwing it
in our face right out of the way. Yeah, and
then it says two Dan Patrick custom shirts at all,
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which means all of us, this firm represents quarterback and
six times Super Bowl champion Tom Brady and his intellectual
property matters. It has come to our attention that you
were selling T shirts and violation of mister Brady's intellectual rights.
We immediately we appreciate your enthusiasm for Mister Brady has
recent moved to Tampa Bay and requests that you us
immediately stopped selling all merchandise.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, didn't they say his name is Tom?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
As you know, mister Brady recently announced we joined Tampa Brady.
Mister Brady's first name is Tom and where's number twelve?
He recently filed for a trade bark for Tampa Bay,
even though it was after us, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
After us, we came up with it. Yes, didn't we
find it at least for a few seconds.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Pretty cool?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Well we got this note from Tom Brady, you immediately
were in Oh no.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes, absolutely. I think Seaton and Ben Paulie might have
been like this. School mc loveman was like, these guys
are serious, and I just kept thinking, I'm gonna get
sued by Tom Brady over Tampa Bay. And then I
forget who said, Hey, we came up with it, let's
go back after him. I go, no, no, no, no,
(15:55):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Going to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We were gonna be the falls of lawsuits. Yeah, we'll
be the big underdog and come after you. I remember
when we heard from the Masters with a T shirt.
We didn't get a cease and desist. I don't think
just a hey, stop stop doing that. And we're like, okay,
that's why they're like, stop doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Stop doing anything with the colors green, yellow, anything with
flowers or trees, anything with grass, anything with a golf
club or ball, anything.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
T shirt. That was a great T shirt. And they
even admitted, you know, the lawyer goes, look, it's too good,
and I said, well, okay. He said, you got it.
You gotta stop. It's too good. And I said, okay, yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's funny that we at the end of the Tom
Brady lawsuits mail it says we appreciate remedying this immediately
and I would like an email letter and email back
this week.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
They weren't kidding around. They wanted it like immediately.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Remember when we had there was somebody from the Big
twelve came in and we had the a T shirt.
Somebody sent in and it was the Baylor Bear doing
the Heisman pose, or maybe it was somebody from the Heisman.
I forget there's somebody from the Heisman. I think they
came in.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That was RG three.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That was the RG three shirt and that wasn't ours,
but it was somebody else's and they were like, oh,
contraband hanging on the wall.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
They immediately keyed into Okay, So whoever that is, we're
suing them great like that.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh like, we don't want our inventory to be too popular.
We just wanted to, you know, not fall into the
wrong hands there you know somebody who might be representing
that product. All right, let me take a break. We'll
talk to Diana Russini, NFL Insider. Always great to talk
to her. And some baseball with Tim Kirchin. Coming up
next hour. Baseball's floating out a minimum six inning pitching rule,
(17:52):
and we'll talk to Tim about that, also about the
possibility of Shoheu Tani going fifty to fifty or back.
After this and the dam past show.
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Speaker 2 (18:43):
Seating Update the poll results, because I'm going to ask
Diana Orsini the same question.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
If you had to pick one to make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Right now, we have Caleb Williams with about fifty five
percent of the vote, followed by Jaden Daniels at about
twenty four, Bo Nix and Drake May long shots.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, let's bringing Diana Rassini, the Athletics senior n F insider,
co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with our
buddy Chase Daniel. And let me start there. Who do
you think has the best chance to be a Pro
Bowl quarterback this year?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Well, I want to go with the people who know football,
and those are head coaches who I've been talking to
over the last week, Some coaches that I was even
talking to over the weekend as they were waiting to
go out and play their own games, and they had
the Bears game on and they were checking Caleb Williams out.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
And he is.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
As advertised in terms of being ready for this offense,
being pro ready. And look, we spent the entire offseason
singing his praise. Is highlighting how good of a player is.
It was a short thing that Chicago was going for him.
Probably about a week before the combine was when the
conversations really started to pick up that they were definitely
(19:55):
going to go with Caleb. And it was very difficult
to find an organization that didn't believe that Caleb was
the best quarterback of this class. So the fact that
he's already been able to start working towards being a
starter and a ready one and one that is good
to probably have a lot of success this season, especially
(20:15):
with the way they built the Chicago Bears team. My
vote is for Caleb. But it is so good to
be back, Dan. I feel like it's been a while.
Ye last time. The last time we chatted, I think
I was still at ESPN. I think I was in
stephen A's office with a cowboy hat on and a
cigar in my mouth. And if I recall, well, I
think we were talking about what the New York Jets
(20:36):
were selling to Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay and essentially,
come here, you can win a Super Bowl, We'll give
you everything. So two years later, two kids later, we
are back.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay, if you gave the Jets a do over, where
or am I starting? Would they keep Aaron Rodgers? Would
they still go after Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah? This has always been a great decision, the way
they've orchestrated this, or choreograph, the way this all came together.
At the time I was on television, I was writing
that the New York Jets are brilliant. They're doing what
they should be doing. An organization that hasn't won a lot,
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that hasn't had a lot of success, is handing over
the keys to a guy who knows how to do it,
a guy who understands how to win, how to run
a hard practice, how to win in big moments, and
how to lead a locker room. Give the keys to
Aaron Rodgers made all the sense in the world. But
what I didn't see in the moment, as someone covering
that team pretty closely, was that when you hand the
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keys to Aaron Rodgers, then all the rules go out
the window too. And I think the team ran into
a lot of issues, not just in the off season,
but during that time when they were trying to build
what they were going to be and Aaron say at
times became a problem because that's not exactly what the
(22:11):
head coach wanted to do. It's not what the GM
wanted to do all the time. So once the toothpaste
was out of the bottle, there that it was hard
to get it back in.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So, yeah, he brought in players who you know, he's
not a good GM. Yeah, you know the players that
he wanted brought in.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, he wanted players that he was comfortable with. And
it's not like I ever saw that list that he
handed over to the Jets that he shared with them
that most of them made sense to me at the time.
This is, you know, Aaron wants to be comfortable. He
wants to be around guys that he's played with before.
With the exception of Odell Beckham Junior, I think that
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was really the only one on the list that he
had never played with. But the Jets granted a lot
of those wishes, not all of them, a lot of them.
Remember David Bactiari was on that list that never worked out,
and look, Alan Wizard's having a better camp now, but
that obviously didn't work out great last year. He wasn't
(23:12):
doing much. Nathaniel Hackett is a really important element. Granted
he was hired before Rodgers became a Jet officially, but
obviously there were conversations being had Nathaniel Hackett's not getting
the offensive coordinator job for the New York Jets if
Aaron Rodgers isn't telling Woody this is what I want
right that he wanted his play caller there, and it
still makes all the sense in the world. This offseason,
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the Jets looked into adding another offensive coach, though they
talked to Arthur Smith. There was a time where they
wanted to bring Arthur Smith in to assist with perhaps
some of the play calling that they thought wasn't as
sharp as they wanted to be, that maybe Nathaniel Hackett
was losing his fastball, but that didn't work out. Obviously,
(23:55):
Arthur Smith now in Pittsburgh and he's got his own
set of challenges as we speak.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I know you spent some time with Sean Payton and
bo Nicks seems to be picking up Sean's system, which
isn't easy for anybody to pick up, but he seems
to be thriving. When does Sean make the call on
who's his starting quarterback?
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Yeah, I expect Boonicks to be named the quarterback over
the next few days. Sean hasn't done any media, I think,
since their preseason game, so I'm expecting when he steps
up to the microphone, most likely tomorrow, I would see
I could see that possibly happening. Look, I spent two
days around them and Dan. There's when you stop by
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a lot of different camps, you can there's a vibe
there is. It's not made up, you can feel it
on the ground. And the vibes in Denver were extraordinary,
from the head coach to the quarterback. And yet the
stars of the camp from my perspective, was actually the
Denver Broncos defense. Yes, bo Nicks and Sean Payton appear
(24:59):
to be a marriage meant to be. Sean Payton joined
my podcast Scoop City, and normally I like to have
my guests on for about ten minutes. Sean was on
with us for forty minutes, and that's not because I
ask good questions. It's because he talks a lot, and
when he's happy, he talks plenty, and he is glowing
about what bow Nicks has been able to do. And
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a lot of it has to do with his experience
in college. Obviously, he's twenty four years old, he's had
sixty one starts, He's had the most experience in going
back to even that draft process, I recall, you know,
lots of GM sharing with me and even guys that
were doing the work on these players that Bo was
in that category of Caleb in terms of being pro ready, right.
(25:42):
A lot of these other guys needed a little bit
more time, right. So Sean's leaning into the fact that
he can understand what is being asked of him. He's
not panicking in the pocket. He appears to be a
veteran type of player out there when you're watching him.
And then let's just talk about this quarterback room in Denver, rights,
(26:02):
it's a bizarre one. You have Jared Stidham, who was
with Sean last year. You've got Zach Wilson traded from
the Jets now in Denver, and you have this rookie
bow Nicks and Zach Wilson's only like three months older
than Bo Nicks, so I say veteran, but it's not
like he's this big older brother. He just had a
little bit more experience than Bo. And you've got Davis Webb,
(26:27):
the former backup quarterback of the New York Giants now
the quarterbacks coach there, which he's getting tons of praise
out there what he's been able to do in terms
of teaching this Sean Payton offense. Because I asked Bo
how he was digesting Sean all of it, from the
play calling to just Sean Payton, the person, the coach,
(26:47):
the demands, the standard he holds for a quarterback, and
you know, he said that he just felt that everyone
has been on the same page and Sean has been
almost a better listener than a talker, which obviously was
the opposite on my podcast, that He's just done a
good job of understanding what Bow needs and Sean is
supplying that. And Sean even shared that with his play calling,
(27:10):
he's cut down some of it to help Bo take
this next step and get comfortable in this offense.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Talking to Diana Roussini, the athletics senior NFL Insider co
host of Scoop City Podcast with Chase Daniel. Tom Brady
over the weekend at the Fanatics Fest talked about the
tragedy of forcing rookie quarterbacks to play early. Seems like
a little bit of hyperbole with the tragedy. We're there,
(27:38):
But as you've mentioned, Jaden Daniels, bow Knicks, Caleb Williams,
they've been quarterbacks with two different universities, two different offenses,
and they played upwards of forty five to sixty games.
I don't and they've gotten their money nil. It feels
like they're more pro ready than they've ever been. And
(28:00):
I don't know if Tom is just thinking what it
was like when he was seventh string quarterback in New
England and moved up to be the third string and
then eventually the starter.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But is it a tragedy of what we're doing with
rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Yeah. My takeaway from listening to Tom specifically talking on
the topic was more his experience of playing the position
and the challenges it brings, and it was almost like
he was admitting that this is a tall task, this
is hard. I had to go through this, this and this,
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and I think it's also human nature. We tend to
reflect back on our own experiences and you sort of
become the old man in the room now that I'm
calling Tom olds. But the way he reflects on his
career may not be exactly the way the game is now.
And I'll call them my football dads, the men that
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I've been around all the year that have helped me
understand this game and get better as a reporter covering it.
They would probably most of them, the majority of them
would probably side with Tom Brady in this respect because
there is definitely definitely value to sitting. I mean, everyone
uses the example because it's the best example, and that's
Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City having that time to sit
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and watch and learn and grow. Despite the fact that,
if you recall, we would hear during the season during
practices from players chatting behind Alex Smith's back. I guess
how good Patrick Mahomes was that he was already blowing
them away, but just getting that time to adjust and learn.
I spoke to Jordan Love on Friday. It was such
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a great conversation about that first year, not just the
hype around him, the fact that he became this controversial
quarterback to join the Green Bay Packers, knowing that Aaron
Rodgers obviously the start and the Green Bay Packers did
what they did at the time, the drama surrounding that,
forget that he did talk about it, but forget that
for this. For what I want to talk about, though,
is his ability to play in the NFL at that time.
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And I joked to him, I said, let's pull some
film ovele from your practices that that year. He's like,
oh my god, please, don't please. I don't even know
who that guy is. I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He is, you know.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And I appreciated how candid he was about it and
obviously very confident in what he is and who he
is now to go, yeah, I sunk. I was not good.
And look, I can remember back Jordan's first and second
year talking to people in Green Bay being like, Yep,
we messed up. He ain't the guy. Well, guess who's
the guy now? Guess who's blowing coaches the way, Guess
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whos understanding the offense? Guess who is the clear leader,
clear leader on the field when you're watching the Packers.
And just from the way he conducts himself and just
his understanding of what his job is now. And I
think him getting this deal done was the best for
his overall confidence, and I felt it to just just
talking to him. So really, to go back to your
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question about Brady, I do think times have changed, and
it's great that this quarterback crop we're gonna truly see it.
We're gonna be able to see some of these guys
that are to sit and some of these guys that
are to play, and more are going to be playing.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Obviously, as you as you pointed out, we got Caleb
and Jayden. I think JJ McCarthy had a really good
shot there before he got hurt. I was with Minnesota
the day that news came out. That was not fun.
You know, coach was heartbroken about it. The whole team was.
You just you felt that they just felt for the kid,
because I do think the plan was to play Sam,
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but JJ was making a strong case to get in there,
you know. And then and then now you have bo
Nix here, who who who seems such he won this
job fair and square.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, before I let you go, you were talking about
training camps have a vibe. Uh, you know, when you're
defending champs or you did well, you didn't do well,
and you go to camp them. When's the last time
you were at a training camp and you go, oh boy,
this isn't gonna be a good season.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Last week, we guess, guess the team, and it's like,
go to my Instagram, Look at all my pictures of
all the different pieces they stopped at to show the world.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Look at me.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I'm working.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay, everybody gets one guess. Hold on, Pauline, I'm gonna
just think, hold on, okay, but hold on. We got
a guess.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Okay, Paulie, your guests, the New York Giants, all right, Fritzy,
I'm gonna say New England, Okay, Seaton.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I don't remember which teams looked at last week.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Uh, I would say probably New England too.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Actually, all right, Marvin Titans, Titans. I'm gonna go Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Great. Guess I know why you did, because you were thinking, Oh,
the day that JJ McCarthy news comes out, maybe everyone
you know was a little on focus. Maybe they were
all alphabet Great. Guess it was the team that they
were practicing against that day, actually, and it was the
Cleveland Browns. And I just happened to be there on
a day that the offense was just off the offensive
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line didn't look as sharp as I was expecting them to.
Deshaun didn't look like he had a lot of presence
out there. Now I'm going to add I then returned
and it was different. But to your question of do
you ever show up, you know this isn't I'm not
a believer in Oh every camp is so great and
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everyone is optimistic. Yes, people are happy, people are excited
because everyone has the same record right now when everyone
believes that they're going to be the best team. But
the value of these joint practices has helped really sort
of burst a lot of bubbles. The question I would
have preferred was what's the camp I went to where
I went.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Oh wow?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
And that was the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Holy cow.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I know I knew they were good when I showed up.
I left like and look, I went on a day
that everyone told me CJ was unbeeskievable, but I just
was watching, going who.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Is going the super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Context all in on the Houston Texans, just based on
what they're building. Okay, something even simple and small. This
is tiny, but this is important and it's been told
to me by many people. It's important in the big,
grand scheme of things. When they make good plays during
the preseason, when guys are scoring touchdowns, backups players that
we may never even see again in the NFL, the
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way the sideline, the way the starters are running down
into the end zone and showing that support. Because what
that is. That's culture, right, that's the Miko Ryans. That's
him saying we are going to be there for everybody
on this team, not just the superstars. And I felt
it when I was there. I had conversations Stefan Diggs
told me this has just been refreshing for him. He's
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growing up. He reflects on some of his younger years
and just knows he made some mistakes and is ready
now to really try to be the best at his position.
And based on what I was watching out there, he's
just been such an added bonus to this offense.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Great to catch up with you. We'll talk to you
during the season, and good luck with Scoop City podcast
with our buddy Chase Daniel.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Thank you, Diana, thank you.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I can't wait for the aggregators Russini Cleveland Brown's horrendous
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Diana Rossini, the athletics senior NFL insider co host of
the Athletics Scoop City Podcast with Chase Daniel. When we
come back. A John Madden movie it's happening.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
We'll get to more phone calls coming up. There's a
John Madden movie that is going to be made. Nicholas
Cage is set to portray John Madden, and I was
curious and I placed a call yesterday afternoon about what
is the movie going to be around about? And then
I also saw where there was a report it's a
(36:24):
video game movie, so it's about the story of Madden NFL,
which of course one of the biggest video game franchises
of all time. And the director, David o' russell has
had a couple of sports movies. He did The Fighter,
he did Silver Linings Playbook. I think there's maybe one
(36:44):
other American American Hustle. Oh yeah, that was very good too,
not a sports movie, but had a lot of star
power in there. So it was reiterated to me that
this is really about the creation of Madden and a
video game, and a lot of times we'll see these
movies and you go like Moneyball. Now if you said, hey,
(37:09):
this is what Moneyball is about. It's about GM and
he is going to have a different way of cost cutting,
maybe have a small budget to work with, and it's
going to be about the Oakland as well. It became
more than just that. Bull Durham. Bull Durham is not
a baseball movie. It's about a relationship or relationships that
(37:33):
sometimes we get fooled. Hoosier's is not a basketball movie
in my opinion. Hoosier's is about relationships and how you
deal with those relationships on and off the basketball floor
in life. And maybe that's what this will be. So
when we say it's going to be a video game movie,
I don't know if they're going to give you the
(37:54):
backdrop on John Madden. A lot of people may not
even know that he was a Hall of Fame coach
with the Raiders. He coached for ten years and won
over one hundred games, and then became a broadcaster. So
he's had three different careers. He was coach and then
he was Madden, and then he was the maybe the
(38:15):
best football analyst we've ever had. And so the popularities there,
storylines are interesting. It was like when it was brought
up to me by somebody in Hollywood, they said, they're
still thinking about how do they do a movie about ESPN?
How do they do a movie about Sports Center? It
won't be I mean, it'll be about relationships. I'm guessing
(38:37):
I don't know what period they've talked about the beginning
of ESPN, how ESPN got on the air, social network.
If you would have said, hey, here's the movie, and
you go, I don't think I'm too interested in that,
and then you saw the movie and you go, it's
about relationships, yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
When I first heard about this movie, I thought it
would be more about John Mann's football career. But you're
saying it's about the video game. I wonder if they
saw the movie air with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon
bought Michael Jordan signing with Nike, and it's like, this
this urban legend story that you heard about for years,
and let's let's do it. It's still John Madden, it's
still Michael Jordan. There's a market for this type of
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story to be told.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, And that was another thing. It was about Sonny
Baccaro signing Michael Jordan and you know, changing the shoe industry.
But at the time when you go, what's it about, Oh,
it's about the guy who signed Michael Jordan. Well, it
becomes the relationships, you know, decisions that were made or
not made, people who were forward and against it. I
(39:38):
don't know what the backdrop is going to be with
Madden of creating this. What went into this was their questions, controversy,
all of those things. But you know, John was such
a unique personality that but Nicholas Cage was the I
think Will Ferrell was trying for the role, but Nicholas
Cage is set to portrayed Madden. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Well, according to a backstory, the first choice was not
John Madden for the video game when it's being developed.
Guess who they went to first, but because he was
still playing, had another deal with the video game.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Joe Montana Joe Mutt Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, a lot of dope, a lot of yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
My dojo.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, that's a lot of coin there, Joe did, okay,
but Madden, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I think they were looking at Hugh Jackman as maybe
being involved in this, but they decided on Nicholas Cage.
That's where you want to see, how are they going
to make Nicholas Cage look. That's when it starts to
set in where you're like, damn, he looks just like
John Madden. We'll talk some baseball with Tim Kirkchin Show.
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