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August 29, 2024 41 mins

Dan weighs in on Bengals HC Zac Taylor’s latest comments about Ja’Marr Chase and his contract dispute. And former NFL head coach, Jason Garrett drops by to talk about the upcoming season and how to manage quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan
enstan Patrick Show. College football coming up tonight. Some interesting
matchups led by Colorado and North Dakota State.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Some ranked teams are in action.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
A lot of these are let's get these games out
of the way, give a payday these smaller schools and
get ready for conference play. We do have news, it's
not breaking news anymore. It was last hour that New
England has decided that Jacobe Brissett will get the start
against the Cincinnati Bengals. Pittsburgh made it official, Russell Wilson,

(00:37):
we'll get the start. Will you look at the Steelers
second half of the season schedule, Pauli, because it feels
like a really really rough road for them that if
that offense isn't it hasn't found itself by the time
they get to week eleven, they're going to be in
pretty tough shape there.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, pol Yeah, the Steelers starting week eleven, Ravens, Brown's Bengals,
Brown's Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, Bengals. Pretty tough. There's not a
break in there.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, you got playoff teams there and that's where that
offense better be figured out. It has to be figured
out by then. If it's not, then you're not going
to have a winning record in Pittsburgh. But Russell Wilson,
I think we all expected that I would have gone
with Russ, even though I thought Justin Fields did show

(01:29):
some signs of not greatness, but you know, dynamic playmaking ability.
And I don't know if he's great. I know he's exciting,
and they need all the help they can get right
now with that offense. That's why I think he might
be one of those let's bring him in, let him

(01:49):
play a little bit. I don't know if Russ it's
a situation where he plays himself out of the starting role,
but it might be where Mike Tomlin is going to
use him the way Pittsburgh US Cordell Stewart many many
years ago. All right, good morning, if you're watching on Peacock,
thank you for downloading the app. Our radio affiliates around
the country, phone calls welcome, Tyler sitting body, take your calls.

(02:12):
Our one poll question, thought it was kind of a
snarky one, had to do with quarterbacks you're interested in
seeing making their debuts This season Seaton.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah, let's see which quarterback debut are you most interested in,
Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, or Tom Brady. Right now,
Aaron Rodgers is still running away with it with over
fifty three percent of the vote.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, and Brady a second.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Brady is second, Yeah with twenty percent, followed by Kirk
Cousins and Russell Wilson are really sort of tied for
the bottom.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I am curious about Kirk Cousins with those weapons. In Atlanta,
Atlanta feels like they're on the verge of something. I
mentioned this yesterday when I started the show. Every year,
every other year, you have somebody go from three wins
to eight wins or nine wins or ten wins. It happens.
Usually a couple of teams will do that in a season.

(03:06):
Who's going to be that team or those teams that
are going to make that big jump? In Atlanta feels
like they're on the verge of something. I don't know
exactly what that means, but it does feel like they're
ready to kind of take that next step that we've
seen some of these teams, like the Lions take in
recent memory. We've talked about the wide receivers and for

(03:30):
the top five highest paid wideouts came to a contract
agreement in the offseason. We saw this coming and that's
why when it happened, we talked about how it's going
to impact the Cowboys because we saw the quarterbacks get paid.
How was that going to affect the Cowboys the wide receivers,
how was that going to affect Dak is not getting

(03:50):
a contract probably to start the season. And if I'm Dak,
I'm at the point where I go, if you don't
want me, then somebody else is going to pay me.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Bet on yourself.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now, maybe he signs a deal that's, you know, five
years for three hundred million dollars. But it felt like
Jerry Jones said yesterday they're not going to get a
deal done to start the season. Once the season starts,
I would say, we're not We're not discussing this anymore
because it's tough enough to play, tough enough to play

(04:22):
quarterback for the Cowboys. Now you're going to have that
weekend and week out. Jerry might say something, Well, he
will say something. Now you have to answer it. Jerry said,
still working on a deal, So it's going to be constant.
And if you're Dak Prescott, you don't want that constant there.
You're already going to have Mike McCarthy with they lose
two in a row. Hey, is your job in jeopardy?

(04:44):
Are you on the hot seat? Like? This is how
it goes because you know they're part of the machine.
The Cowboys are part of the machine.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You just keep spitting out information there, headlines, there, controversy there.
But you look at what happened in the off season.
The Lion struck first thirty million dollars a year for
amon Ra Saint Brown. The Eagles responded just a couple
of days later with AJ Brown. Now that's when he
got thirty two million. That's when I thought the Cowboys

(05:13):
would go, you know what, let's sign up CD, Let's
get him four you know, thirty two million dollars, thirty
three million dollars. Now, I don't know Ceedee Lamb's representation,
but the Cowboys always act late, sometimes too late. So
AJ Brown got thirty two million. Now you can make
an argument maybe the Cowboys are being patient. Maybe that's

(05:36):
the prudent approach here. I don't think so. But justin
Jefferson then he gets thirty five million. Ceedee Lamb comes
in and gets thirty four million. So they all got paid.
Now you have Brandon Ayuk and Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase
deserves as much as any of these receivers. He deserves

(05:56):
what Justin Jefferson is worth, and certainly Cdee Lamb. He
has gotten his team to the Super Bowl. Now, I
know we give credit to the quarterback. Jamar Chase and
Joe Burrow are a package deal as much of a
package deal as any QB wide receiver, maybe more so.

(06:16):
Now you could say Dak and CD they haven't been
to a Super Bowl. I'm just talking about these guys
and we know Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. I'm going
to take them off the board. He's a sure thing
for them. Brandon Ayuk is a B plus receiver, maybe
asking for a minus money. Jamar Chase is an maybe

(06:38):
eight plus wide receiver. He's only twenty four years of age,
and he's trying to get his contract the way we
do quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
After his third year. Now, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
If he's going to play or not, but here is
his head coach, Zach Taylor, talking about what he said
yesterday and then having to clean up the mess.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Smartest thing for us to do is just keep working
through it, keep taking a day to day again. He's
a he's a huge member of our team and and
UH appreciate him and look forward to getting them back,
hopefully at some point soon.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
What we talked was yesterday that he's great expectation that
he was. He was killed wresting.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
I think I probably put my foot in my mouth
speaking too quickly. And it's just again, this is a
day to day situation. We'll just keep seeing this as that.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I did like that, Zach said, yeah, yeah, yeah he did.
He did because coaches shouldn't talk about this. This is
about agents and GM's owners, maybe the player himself, but
not the coach. The coach just says, whoever's out here
is who I'm going to coach. I can't do anything

(07:45):
about it. We want Jamar back. I hope he's back.
B Vanilla, be generic because I'm guessing what happened was, yeah,
we expect him to play week one. Agent h Yeah,
Mike Brown, we have Jamar's agent online one? Okay, yeah,
could you tell coach that there's nothing official here? With

(08:07):
Chamara being there for week one. He's in cargo shorts
and flipblops. Doesn't look like he's ready to play in
week one, But like the fact that he said, yeah,
I might have put my foot in my mouth. Robert Salah,
the Jets head coach. He says that this team is
actually going to be better because of how bad they

(08:28):
were last year.

Speaker 8 (08:30):
To grow in the world, to grow as an individual,
you've got you got to live in uncomfortable environments, and
I would I would say that last year was probably
one of the more uncomfortable environments that you could possibly
create for an organization. And because of it, I think
our players, are coaches, everybody in this building are better
for it, and because of it, I think the team
is better for it and better equipped as coaches. I

(08:53):
think we've we learned a lot from last year in
terms of with regards to adjustments and the things that
we need to do to make sure that we can
I've said it before, be not fully injury proof, but
a little injury proof where we can adjust and move
things on the fly a little bit better. But yeah,
we're definitely all better for what happened less.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Here, damn. He sounds sad.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Hey, I have got about some positivity, coach, Come on,
how about some ra ra rah.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think we're better because of last season. I don't
know that somebody kicked my dog here. I don't know.
We're gonna be good. They're gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
The Jets are favored to win the division now I don't.
Once again, I don't know if that's just wishful, but
I was surprised. I thought Miami would be I thought
Miami and Buffalo, but even the Bills by default. But
I was like, okay, big expectations there for the Jets.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, Paul, you know, I think this is gonna sound
really dumb because it's obviously been a painful forty years
for Bills fans with the four Super Bowls. But if
you're a Bills fan three years ago, you're thinking to yourself,
we're getting one, We're probably gonna get one, We're gonna
get an appearance in the Super Bowl, and it just
it feels like it's just getting a touch further away
every every month. Like when you said that the Jets

(10:16):
were favorite, I was a little bit shocked, you know,
like the Bills two years ago, I think where the
AFC favorites to go to the Super Bowl before I
remember doing this show, and now feels like they're amongst
the favorites at best.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah yeah, jeez, it's the window. We talked about it,
that the window was going to close. And then you
pay Josh Allen. I mean, now he's underpaid, but you
pay Josh Allen. Stefan Diggs is gone. You got some
young receivers in there, a couple of good tight ends,
and it just feels like it's starting to heat up

(10:49):
in Buffalo, maybe in a negative way, because you know,
is coach going to survive this. It's just like with
the Jets. If the Jets don't play well this year,
if they don't make the playoffs, I can't imagine Robert
Solick keeps his job. I mean, I'm kind of surprised
he's kept his job. Just feels like there's this dysfunction
in that organization. But with Buffalo, the expectation level is

(11:14):
super Bowl contender, and I don't know if it still
is that. It almost feels like Miami has higher expectations
than Buffalo does. But that's because you paid your receivers,
you paid your quarterback. Now we expect you to play great.
Everybody's under contract. Let's go out and play. I mean
we got a factor in that their defense not up

(11:36):
to the standard. I would think of a team that
will go deep into the playoffs. Yes, ton, are you
feeling more pressure?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
If you're Josh Allen Lamar Jackson coming into this season,
I'd probably say it's a tie between those two.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean, Josh gets there, he went to an AFC
title game, and I know Lamar has Lamar's won two MVPs,
like you get into that category where oh yeah, he
won another MVP, but then doesn't do anything in the postseason.
It's not all on him, but it is on him.
I mean, that's just the way we are with quarterbacks.
It's not fair, but nobody said it was going to

(12:18):
be fair. You get paid a lot of money to
win a game. You might win ugly, but you got
to win a game. And I think that's on Lamar Jackson.
Josh has been there, but I don't know how many
opportunities he gets moving forward.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, it's weird though, that Lamar Jackson is in the
position of being an MVP, a multi time MVP, and
still not doing enough for his team. To win. Yeah,
like the MVP should be like, it not my fault.
I did everything I could. But for him, it's still
he's not doing enough though, you need to do more

(12:57):
for his team.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, but Peyton Manning was there, same thing. It's like, oh,
it's his fault that the Colts didn't win.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I think he was blamed, whether it's his fault or not,
because he was compared to Tom Well. Lamar's winning MVP.
So you're compared to Patrick Mahomes and I you know,
Mahomes is winning. His stats might not be great, but
when he gets to the postseason, that's when he shows greatness.

(13:24):
Now is he on a better team? You know, that's
up for debate as well. Baltimore was a really good
team last year. Yeah they were. Well, they win thirteen games,
they had home field advantage against Kansas City.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yes See, the game can be so tricky because like
Paul is just pointing out before about Russell Wilson's stats.
You know, right, he had a better year than all
of these other starting quarterbacks this year. If you look
at how many games the Broncos lost by like two
or three points last year, I don't know how many
of those are on the offense. But Russell Wilson is
the one that was sort of hung out to dry

(13:57):
on that. I mean, if you lose, however many games
thirty one to twenty eight, you put up twenty eight points,
you probably win the game.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yes, unless you have a drive to win a game.
Then we put that on the quarterback, like what did
you do when the game is on the line. I mean,
that's that's Montana, that's l Way, that's Brady, that's greatness,
that's like real legacy stuff. Yes, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, absolutely,
And Russ was that in Seattle. You know what he

(14:25):
was doing when they were in the Super Bowls until
they had the you know that last drive where he
threw the interception. He was going to be then he
was going to stand out as you want him to
have the ball with two minutes to go. And I
really felt that, having witnessed that game in person and
realize New England had no no game plan to stop

(14:45):
Russell Wilson that night, he stopped himself with you know
the interception.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yes, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
When he started with Nathaniel Hackett, they had the thirty
second ranked offense in Denver. Last year they had the
nineteenth ranked offense in the league. They made a nice jump.
Defense dropped at twenty seventh in the league. And then
the other thing you were comparing Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson
at age twenty seven has two MVPs and no Super
Bowl appearances. Peyton Manning at age twenty eight two MVPs, no.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Super Bowl news.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, because that followed Peyton can you win the big One?
That was the label that he had against when he
was in college. And then you know, facing the Bears,
you were waiting for Peyton to match Tom. Hey, it's
like it was like the Red Sox and the Yankees
when the Red Sox couldn't beat the Yankees. But we

(15:36):
wanted it to be a rivalry, Peyton versus Tom. Tom
was winning Super Bowls, Peyton wasn't. It wasn't really a
rivalry unless it was just a regular season rivalry. All right,
we'll take a break. We'll talk more football. Jason Garrett,
former Cowboys head coach, now working for NBC Football Night
in America.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
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Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yea, he is Jason Garrett Football Night in America studio analyst.
The season begins on NBA's NBC and Peacock Chiefs and Ravens.
That'll be the Thursday night game and then uh Friday,
you're going to have football on Peacock as well, where
the Eagles and the Packers, and Jason also serves as

(17:06):
a game analyst for Notre Dame working with Dan hick Man.
You're busy. Look at you. You're like Belichick. You got
a lot of jobs here.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
A lot of jobs. Yeah. Excited about the start of
football season, though, Dan.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Let me, I don't know if you saw this.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
The Patriots name Jacoby Brissett as their starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Give me that philosophy.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do you think with girod Mayo, rookie coach, going with
a little more experienced quarterback instead of his rookie quarterback?

Speaker 7 (17:34):
You know, I agree with the decision. I keep thinking
back of what and You Reid did in Kansas City
with Patrick Mahomes and just the idea that you draft
the guy high. You know he's going to be your
quarterback of the future. But in Kansas City they had
Alex Smith. Alex is going to play this year. Patrick,
You're going to learn And I think that's probably going
to be a similar situation for Drake may in New England.

(17:56):
And Jacoby Brissett's an accomplished player, He's played a lot
of football. He'll do a good job for them. I
don't think they're a great team right now. I don't
think the environment is great, So you'd probably rather have
a veteran guy who can handle that the ups and
downs of it, maybe a little bit better than a rookie,
and Drake will learn at some point this season. I

(18:17):
suspect he plays a little bit and he'll be their
quarterback of the future. He certainly showed a lot in
the preseason for Patriots fans to be excited about.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
What do you need to see from a rookie in
preseason that would lead you to believe that he could
be your starting quarterback week one.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
You know, we had Dak Prescott, we drafted him in
the fourth round in twenty sixteen, but you know, Tony
Romo was going to be our quarterback and Kellen Moore
was going to be our backup, and Dak was going
to be our third guy. And you know, Dak just
played so well at the outset that we felt really
good about him, but you know, he wasn't going to play.
Kellen gets hurt in the preseason, Tony gets hurt in

(18:56):
the preseason. All of a sudden, you go from three
to one, and we're all looking at each other like, okay,
we got to figure out how we create an environment
for Dak to play well. And we lost our first game,
they won an eleven in a row, and then we
ended up winning thirteen games. So it wasn't by design.
That's not what we intended to do, but I thought

(19:18):
we responded well to create an environment for him. And
I think what you do as a staff, as you say, okay,
what does this guy do well? What has he shown us?
Let's try to feature that. I don't know that there's
any litmus tests that you say, Okay, I need to
see this in order for him to play. The different
situations are what they are. I think it makes sense

(19:42):
for Jayde and Daniels to play in Washington and for
Caleb Williams to play in Chicago. But you know they
have Jakobe. They did that on purpose. Their team isn't
necessarily great, why not let them wait. He hasn't played
as much football as Jayde and Daniels did in college,
so maybe he's a little less experienced. And I don't
mind this route at all.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Tom Brady came out recently and said that it's a
tragedy we're dumbing offenses down for these quarterbacks, and I
disagreed because a lot of these quarterbacks have played for
two different schools. And you know you saw that with
Bo Nicks and Jade and Daniels, Caleb Williams. They're coming
in at twenty three, twenty four, they've already been paid money.
I mean, they're ready to go. So I know, Tom,

(20:27):
it sounds like they get off my lawn back in
my day. This is the way we do it. But
are they dumbing down offenses for Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams
and bow Knicks this year?

Speaker 7 (20:36):
You know, it's a great conversation. I think the kids
growing up these days are so much more advanced in
some ways than the quarterbacks way back, when you know,
there's all these seven on seven leagues, there's all this
exposure when they're really young to throw in the football.
You know, they have these summer leagues and so there's

(20:58):
a lot of throwing and catching going on in this
generation that didn't happen quite as much in previous generations.
So I think in some ways they're really advanced. In
other ways they're not. Uh to to to Tom Brady's point,
I do think there's like a simplicity that these guys
grow up with. You hear a lot of people say, hey,

(21:19):
it's a one word play the one word tells them
everything to do. Like back in the day, you know,
the plays were longer. You need to know formation, you
need no variety of defenses, You need to all these
things before you're ready to play.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Give me, give me an old school play call that
you remember.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Oh god, I'm gonna I'll give you an easy one. Okay,
explode to bunch right, motor scout right five twenty five
f post swing right and that that's the digit system,
and so uh if you want to that's the Don Coriel,
sid Gilman, Ernie's MPs North Turner system, Mike Martz, those guys.

(22:01):
There's also the West Coast system. Let me think of
one there far double wing right Z short seventy two
flank or drive. You know that that's sort of a thing,
and you know they get much longer than that if
you have shifts and motions and all of that. And

(22:23):
I'm not necessarily advocating that, but there has been an evolution.
And I do think you have to be careful of saying, Okay,
we're gonna just make it easy on the player and
kind of dumb things down. I think you need to
challenge them. They're pro football.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Players, but if but if I look at now you
go to the line of scrimmage, I just have one
word and then then we're going to go to the
other play.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
Right, Well, that's been in football forever. Yeah, they used
to call them. Check with me. You go to the
line of scrimmage, you have two plays. Then they became
what you call kills and cans. We're going to run
the first play to a kill it or can it
to the second play. That's been in football for a
long time. You know. Now they have three and four
and five plays and go to the line of scrimmage

(23:08):
with depending on your offense. But kids, you know, quarterbacks
have grown up looking at the sideline and having a
coach hold pictures up and nobody calls plays. So you
know that's part of football. You don't want to be
like you said, the guy screaming get off my lawn.
So there's an evolution there. But I also think you

(23:30):
need to challenge not only quarterbacks but all the players
to be pro football players and to learn and not
to simplify it so much that you're not as comprehensive
as you used to be. You know, there's an interesting thing,
Dan that a lot of very smart. People talk about
you need to you need to understand learning styles of players,

(23:53):
and I've had really good coaches share this with me
and it's something that we always valued. Okay, how does
Dan Patrick learn? Okay? How does Drake may learn? How
does whoever?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Learn?

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Are they visual learners? Are they better watching film? Are
they better at walkthroughs? Whatever that is? I think it's
important to understand that. But if you if you are
in football, you understand that. In a meeting, typically you'll
see a list of plays. Okay, that's the game plan.
It's a list, and then that meeting will evolve too.

(24:25):
We're going to show you drawings of those plays, then
we're gonna show you film of those plays. Then we're
gonna go walk through those plays. Then we're gonna go
practice those plays. Then we're going to come back afterwards
and watch the film of those plays, and then we're
going to walk through them again. So whatever kind of
learner you are, the essence of teaching in football has
been you're gonna get it a lot of different ways.

(24:47):
So to say that he can't handle it Patrick, you
know he can't handle it. So we're going to give
them one word. Sometimes I think you're diminishing the player,
and I get things evolve, I get things grow. I
want to keep it simple for guys, but at the
same time, you want to challenge them and help them
be pro football players. I think that's probably the essence
of what Tom Brady was talking about.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, that's fair, but also I think aren't we saying
to the entire offense, you guys need to learn to play.
So if I have one word and I say it's banana,
everybody knows what banana is. I don't have to give
the tight end or the line blocking assignments.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Am I running back? So why not make it more simple?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
So your entire team is they have to learn the system,
not just the quarterback. Who's then going to be the
conductor to the orchestra.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
It's a great question. But if you look at a
call sheet in the NFL, and I'm not necessarily advocating this,
there might be three hundred plays on an offensive call
sheet for a game. Now, you're not going to run
three hundred plays. If it's a good offensive day, you
run seventy of them. But there's a lot of different
situational things that you have to be prepared for. They
may or may not come up in a game. Right,

(26:01):
So the question for me is, okay, let's use banana.
Let's use banana. They'll use avocado, we'll use orange, we'll
use apple, we'll use How many of those fruits and
vegetables can you use to get to the number of
plays that you want? And my experience has been for
me when you're saying, okay, banana means all these things,

(26:21):
Apple means all these things. Arizona means all these things.
Your brain only can handle so much of that stuff
and know all the little specific intricacies of all the
different things. Sometimes you want to tell a guy, hey,
you know five point twenty five f posts. The f
is running a post. Now, we used to call that

(26:43):
Ernie because it was Ernie Zampezi. Right. We evolved to
a word too, Scott, Right, Ernie got it. Okay, But
if you want to have the number of plays that
you want and all the volume you have in your offense,
you run out of fruits and states.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And okay, how about we do this though, Jason, how
about we just go I'm going to throw the ball
on a post pattern to Michael Irvin, that's the play.
What's the protection, just the formation. Just just just protect me.
Just like it feels like you guys like having your

(27:20):
own language. You know that somebody has oily hips or
they're a wastebender, or you know, there's always some new
three technique. There's every year that you've got to have
a new one.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Here. It's like you guys are lawyers and you're speaking
to one another.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well, that's a great point. I do think, Uh, descriptions
are great. But if you said, okay, instead of calling
Aaron Donald a three technique, if every time you refer
to the position he played as he's the guy that
lines up on the outside shoulder of the left guard,
you'd rather just say he's the three technique.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Right now, I would just say it's Aaron Donald, Like
I don't need to tell you anything other than that's
Aaron Donald.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
He doesn't have a position to me, He's.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Just where to line up, though, yeah, he knows where
to line up wherevery damn well pleases to line up.
We're talking about Jason Garrett NBC Football Night in America
studio analyst. Did you ever get involved in contract negotiations?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Not really, no, not specifically. I mean we talked about
the macro ideas of it, but never specifically with the numbers.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Will you ever ask about a certain player?

Speaker 7 (28:33):
Oh, constantly, No.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
But with money attached to it, you have.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Those discussions all the time. You're always thinking about, Okay,
the priorities. You know, this is a guy that we
should go pay. We needed to pay Zach Martin. It's
a six time pro bowler. Let's go pay Zach. I
don't know if it's fifteen million dollars, sixteen million dollars, whatever,
you get it. The people who are doing the actual
negotiation get all those specifics. But the essence of it is,

(29:02):
we need him on our team.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
But weren't you going to take Johnny Manziel instead?

Speaker 7 (29:10):
We were not going to take Johnny Manziel. There's a
good story about that.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, it felt like the owner wanted to take him.
Maybe the GM didn't, or the GM wanted to and
the owner did. Wasn't that with Jerry that it felt
like Manziel? But then weiser heads prevailed and then it
was Zach Martin.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Yeah. I think the essence, I think the best way
to describe that in hindsight is Jerry was enamored with
the idea of having, you know, a quarterback transition. We
had Tony Romo at the time. He loved the idea
of Montana to Steve Young, Farv to Rogers, those kinds

(29:52):
of things. So he was being forward looking on who
was the next quarterback for the Cowboys and not being
afraid to draft that guy. He really liked Johnny Manziel.
But it worked out there. We had an opportunity to
get Zach Martin and we all embraced that.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
You got to smile on your face.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
So he's only made he's only made ten straight pro
bram Oh, I know you made the right call, but
it felt like that's where Jerry could have used veto
power to say, Nope, we're going to take Johnny Manziel.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
He likes he likes shiny objects, So Johnny was a
shiny object.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Well, the shiny object there was. Zach Martin was the
blinking light on the draft board, like, this is the guy,
he's graded way higher than everybody else. Let's take him.
And we followed that blinking light.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Have we gotten to the point where we've taken Mahomes
for granted that we just expect him. You know, we
did this with Tom, We did this with Michael George.
I mean, we do this with greatness, but have we
done that with Mahomes that we just assume he's going
to be great and we assume they're going to be
a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
Yes, we have gotten to that point, and that just
the way it is in society. It's human nature. But
you know one thing that I was so amazed by,
and I've said this out loud a few times. I
thought what they did at the end of last year
was remarkable. I thought it was Andy Reid's best coaching
job he's ever done. If you think about how much

(31:21):
they were flopping around on offense all year long. They
were playing really good defense, but they weren't good on offense.
They were trying to find their way. And it's almost
like some guys got into a room and said, Okay,
enough of that. This is what we're doing. And I
saw it with my own eyes. I said, they're going
to hand it to Pacheco, They're going to throw it

(31:43):
to Kelsey, they're going to throw it to Rashi Rice,
period and if anybody else gets it, that's fine. But
these guys are the guys that we're going to give
the ball to. And if you watch them the last
part of the season and through the playoffs, that's exactly
what they did. We did the Kansas City Miami game.
They're really cool game. Mike Turrico and I and I'm watching,

(32:03):
I'm like, this is what they're going to do. And
it's exactly what they did. It's like, we're going to
throw it to the guys who have complete faith and
confidence in and we're going to roll right through this.
And they just got their act together and played so
confidently and decisively in the biggest moments. Their defense played
great and it was really fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
But also you saw this transition of they realized they
were a defensive team.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
First.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
It wasn't usually you think Mahomes and Kelsey and Andy
that is going to be offense. That they realized they're
going to lean on their defense the way the defense
used to lean on the offense. That game against the Raiders,
where they got embarrassed, they got humbled, I thought that
was the you know, you don't want to want to
have a loss, a good loss, but that was a
good loss because that woke them up and they realized,

(32:49):
we can't win this way. We got to win another way.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
Right, And I do think that consciously or subconsciously, they
had the standard of their success in the past in
the back of their mind. It's like, Okay, this is
the offense that we've been We got to try to
get back there. And then they looked at each other
and said, Okay, that guy's playing in Miami. That's guys
no longer with us. Okay, here's what we got. How
do we maximize this group? And I'm sure there was

(33:14):
a meeting after that game that you're referred to. I'm
sure there was a meeting where they said, Okay, what
are we doing? Who can we trust? These are the
guys who can trust build it around them, And that's
what they did. And that's why I thought it was
so remarkable. They still relied on their defense, but their
offense played plenty well enough through the playoffs and they
were fantastic And the coach is on another level and

(33:37):
the quarterbacks on another level.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Great to talk to you is always have fun with
the season, Notre dame as well. Thank you for joining us, Jason.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
Always enjoy it. Thanks Dan Jaysing.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Gerrett Football Night in America analyst, former Cowboys head coach
and now an analyst for Notre Dame again with Dan Hicks.
They've got the opening night on Thursday night next week.
That'll be at Arrowhead Stated and Football Night in America
will be there. Coverage begins at seven Eastern with the
Ravens and the Chiefs. Sorry, we'll take a break, We'll

(34:07):
come back. We got phone calls. And also we have
the rudest rudeist cities in America.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, we got a list.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
We've got them a quiz the rudest sports cities in America.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wap.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Plan Accordingly, Friday Night, Caitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese the
Fever favored by five and a half. Caitlyn Clark, she's
breaking all the rookie records. But most of your rookies
weren't this great this soon. And it took Kelsey Plumb

(34:55):
and iron Esque and some of these other players who
were in the league now took him a couple of
years before they got to that all star level. Caitlin
Clark is playing great and the second half the season
her team has played great as well. Plus get them
in the postseason. That always helps too when you have
star power being able to play in the postseason. Seaton
has the rudest sports cities in America. And then the

(35:19):
rationale as to why they're on this list.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Just cities, not sports cities, just cities. Oh is it
just the rudest cities? Oh, rudest city. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
This is a study done by Prepley or Preply. I'm
not really sure which, but I think it's Prepley r
rank the rudest cities among the forty six largest metropolitan
areas in the US. The survey assess behaviors such as
lack of self awareness, rudeness to service workers, not acknowledging strangers.

(35:50):
It highlights tendencies to be loud in public, disrespect personal space,
and show a lack of care for others.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
That's that's the easy answer. Number one on the list, Marvin,
New York City.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yeah, New York City is not in the top ten.
Whoa Philadelphia. Philadelphia would be very fittingly number two, just
to guess, they can't even be number one in then
they are number two for all right, don't have to

(36:23):
start at ten and work my way down.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Number ten Charlotte, North Carolina. They're nice in Charlotte. Yeah,
that's what you think. As long as you're from Charlotte,
they're nice. This is the closest. Los Angeles gets to
the list. But Long Beach, California, very rude. Number eight,
Las Vegas, Nevada. Number seven, Memphis, Tennessee. Number six, very.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Rude place that you guys could guess.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Very rude. Chicago, No, not on the list, very rude.
East Coast, Boston, Boston exactly number six.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
It's a crazy list. If Boston is the rudest, that's six.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I know.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Number five is Oakland, California. Four Louisville, Kentucky. Three Tampa, Florida.
Number two Philadelphia, as we've discussed, number one rudest, rudest city,
and according to this one random.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Website, not sports, just rudest city. Yes, Paul, I have
no reason.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Miami, Florida, loop bloop.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
You know, I blame it on Dan Lebtto clearly rude
him and got rude.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Stu Gotts alone could win this far. Very rude.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
They set the tone for that kind.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of very rude study.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
The study noted Miamians are perceived as ruder to newcomers. Uh,
especially in downtown Miami.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
How about that Miami very rude place.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Also, I have the this franchise has the highest average
ticket price in the league this year. If you guys
want to guess NFL, this team highest average ticket price
in the league at two hundred and fifty four dollars.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Los Angeles Rams, No Marvin Philadelphia Eagles, No Seaton. You
say Dallas, It's not Dallas.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
It's not Dallas.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
If you said Detroit Lions.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
You.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Really see that is a huge mistake. What terrible? Why
are they doing? That?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Is a wait till you win a Super Bowl or
go to a Super Bowl. It's like, hey, you guys
have struggled along with us and now we got good
and now we're going to charge you a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
That doesn't seem right.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Uh. Most expensive game of the season. It's a game
in October. It's a game in Las Vegas. Who is
the team going to Vegas? The most expensive game of
the season. Tickets averaging over four hundred dollars. Paly Jets

(39:24):
at Vegas. No seat in forty nine Ers, No, the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh's visit to Vegas, the most expensive game
of the season, vacation day.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah travel, well those Steeler fans, thank you. That's a
home game for the Steelers for sure.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
Yeah, Yenn's going to the.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Game lowest get in price of the season, Carolina gainst anybody.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Carolina and the Cardinals December twenty second, eighteen dollars and
you can get in the game.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
What a deal.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
They call it a hot going to drink into for.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Five dollars more. You can start for Carolina if you
want to tell me that, that is me.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
The NFC South is the best bargain. The get in
price is I think best in the NFC South. NFC
South offers the most affordable tickets in the league. New
Orleans has the lowest average ticket price at forty three dollars.

(40:26):
So just plan accordingly. Final hour on the way, Tom
Berducci's going to join us. We're going to have him
talk about the Kansas City Royals, and then the Royals
lose last night, but the turnaround, they lost one hundred games,
what one hundred and six games last year and now
they're hanging in there with the Guardians for first place.

(40:46):
So we'll talk a little baseball with him. The starting
quarterbacks have been named in Pittsburgh and New England. It's
Jacoby Brissette with the Patriots and Russell Wilson. Was this
ever an open competition, which I don't think it was
in Pittsburgh. I think it was in New England. So
final hour on this Thursday on the way more of
your phone calls as well with Fritzie Seat and Marv

(41:07):
Paul yours truly the BRGS Gambling Podcast will tape that
after the show that'll be available at danpatrick dot com.
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