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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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No body?
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All right, we'll talk some quarterbacks coming up here in
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think we should remove Patrick Mahomes off the list. He's
I think he's list less, maybe his own tier. But
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Were you rooting for or against Colorado last night? Our
pole question? And it seemed like there were close to
(01:11):
seventy percent of you who were rooting against Dion Sanders
in company, and if you were Dion had this to
say after the win last night.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Some of you upset that we got a w You know,
I'm really mad that we didn't get dal So God
bless y'all.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You have to wait again to next week.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And then he said, drive home safely. They have Nebraska
next week on the road. It was a fun game
to watch, and I don't know if it's going to
matter anywhere down the road. You know, probably for North
Dakota State, they might look back at this as they,
you know, go through their playoff in their FBS. For Colorado,
(01:54):
maybe you're getting six to seven wins, maybe they surprise us.
And even more than that, I just don't think they
have improved that much. But they do have two of
the best players in the country. Dion Sun and then
Travis Hunter. Hunter played one hundred and twenty nine snaps.
He had fifty seven on offense, seventy two on defense.
(02:15):
He can probably pick what he wants to play when
he gets to the pros. And we had Brady Quinn
on half hour ago and he said, you could probably
have him as a full time defensive back and then
maybe you have well he said, sixty percent of the
offensive plays, which is a lot. I was thinking maybe
you have ten to fifteen where you bring him in.
(02:38):
Now I know when he comes in, you're gonna go, oh,
they're going to pass. Well, for the most part, you
kind of know when everybody's going to pass in the
NFL because that's just about every down. So it's not
like you go, oh, this is a big surprise. He's
going to come in. You still have to stop him
as well. But impressive. North Dakota State had a chance
to win. This put up a great, great supporting cast there. Offensively,
(03:02):
defensively played pretty well to go into Colorado. Now, if
that would have been at the Fargo Dome, I think
it would have been a different result, But it wasn't.
Colorado won, and Dion said, if you were rooting against them,
you're gonna have to wait until next week. College football
Week one is pretty spicy though. Penn State, West Virginia, Clemson, Clemson,
(03:25):
Georgia by the way noon kickoff, Clemson getting twelve. When's
the last time Clemson was a double digit underdog. I
don't think it's happened too many times. South Dakota State
getting nine and a half against Oaky State Miami two
and a half, given two and a half to Florida.
Notre Dame gets three at A and M and LSU
(03:46):
usc LSU is giving four on Sunday night, So a
lot of fun stuff there. You also have basketball tonight,
you have the Indiana Fever, and you have the Chicago
Sky Specifically it is Caitlin Clark versus is Angel Reese.
Now you're gonna have to find it. It's on Ion TV.
(04:06):
And I don't know where Ion TV is, but I
mean I'll find the channel. And I think it's like uh,
Hawaii five, oh reruns, Murder she Road or things like that.
All right, PAULI, I need you to find Ion TV
for me, like how much now? Fifteen seconds, fourteen, thirteen, eleven, ten, nine, eight, seven, six, yes.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Paul, how many other more time?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh? I thought you okay?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I thought it was in the two forties. Who knows? Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Ion channels, by the way, are proteins that form pores
and membranes that allow ions to pass through.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You found that faster?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, it's on Ion TV.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
I've seen Ion because they play like a lot of
Law and Order reruns. Oh, Law and Order, Hawaii O
and yeah, Criminal Minds. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't watch
any of those shows.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
The scripts Family then.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
A right, uh, but.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We want to be we want to be a full
service show.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We want to tell you where you can find it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It's definitely in your cable programming guy.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh, thank you?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Can't you just google what channel is Ion TV? It
is on Google. You can watch it on Google. I
just saw that.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Oh, I got it, you got it? Okay, yeah, okay,
it took me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, hawi fi what was on right now?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
It's the episode where there's a girl in bikini and
they saved the day.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Is Maggie Q in Hawaii five?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is that her name?
Speaker 7 (05:44):
That seems like the best probably the best gig like
a mid level actor can get, being on Hawaii. Oh,
it's been on like a decade. And I'm sure they shoot,
you know, fifty percent of the time in Hawaii and
then fifty percent in LA.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know, they might shoot close to one hundred
percent in Hawaii, really, I would think.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I McBride, our buddy is on that show, the actor.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh he is, yeah, he may.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
He used to call in all time.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, he did the Mike Tyson impersonation a great and
they did a Yeah, Christopher Walking brought alligators.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, no, he the kittens. I brought kitten.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He went to a dinner party and Christopher Walking came
in with a trench coat on, and he pulled out
two kittens and says to everybody there, I brought kittens.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So bizarre kittens.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
He nailed the invitation.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Kittens.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Kittens. All right, pull question for the final hour is
going to be what seat no counter?
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Oh man, let me update you here real quick.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
By the way, have a lot of hater Big ten
Saturday Night, it's gonna be Michigan against Presno State. Here
comes Saturday Night NBC and Peacan coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, all right, yes, all right, okay.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Generally I'm rooting for Colorado to seven to sixty nine
percent of the audience they lose.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's lame.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
By the way, I'm a win on that.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
If you were a Travis Hunter, which would you play
in the NFL? Right now? Seventy eight percent would play offense.
And now for this hour we have if you had
to pick one of these teams to miss the playoffs,
your options are the Bills, Texans, Lions, and Packers. Oh
one of those, all right, right now? The Packers at
thirty four percent, followed very closely by the Bills. Last
(07:23):
place Lions. Okay, congratulations coming in last as means you
one yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
This is where you want to finish last.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, and you got the highest ticket prices in the
NFL average ticket prices.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
He made it, baby Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Josh Allen was on Mad Dog Radio Man he was
asked about being named the most overrated quarterback.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
My reaction is, I'm not mad that eleven players not
on my team don't like me, right, So that's that's
number one. I actually think that's a term of endearment.
When other players don't like me, that means I'm doing
something the right way. I am mad at However, I'm
never ever invited to participate in these anonymous surveys, so
(08:09):
that's that's where I find this frustrating. I want to
be a part of these surveys too and give my
input as well.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well well done there, Josh, well done.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Well done by med Doug Radio to getting Josh Allen.
That's a good get.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh, you're saying it right in front of fritzy.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Dude on a Friday.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
I have a unique job that can be compared, I
guess to others. So everyone else's jobs, you can't really
compare them to like staffers on other shows.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I can't compare what Pauli does to Stu Gotts with
Dan Levitard.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
Not very very specific way. Then that would be tough
to do.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And Setan is your buddy, he's your back. Yeah, it
was your buddy. Seaton had a shot and it was
the merrimack or the monitor. I mean he hit a shot.
Odd saw where I saw where Mike Tomlin was on
Rich Eisen show, and I go, oh, I saw where
Rich Eisen had Mike Tomlin on the show, and then.
Speaker 10 (09:11):
That was important to just say for some reason.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well he doesn't want to come on this show. And
then I was like, oh, rich Eisen got him on.
And then you go, well, yeah, he's going on with
the face of NFL, and I go, I just brought
it up.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
I don't think it was just brought up. I said
for a reason. And there's a thing you can kick
to yourself. How would the person that's in charge of
booking the guests. I don't know what I'm supposed to
have no reaction to that. You just kind of threw
it out there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But I wasn't saying it to make you feel bad.
Speaker 10 (09:38):
Not necessarily. Why would not process?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I didn't think Tomlin did these interviews.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
You're seeing the rundown from some of these other shows.
They're really nailed it, like and then Paul supposed to
have like no reaction to that, right on point with
those rundowns.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
No, Ton, once again, I did not bring it up
as a means to, you know, hurt you. And I
didn't bring it up initially.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Oh so I don't know what the reaction is supposed
to be. But no, I was just a random thought.
Part it's supposed to be sunny this week, and that's
a random thought. Mike Tomlin was on a show other
than ours. I don't know how I'm supposed to not
have a actor.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He brought up Josh Allen. Okay, that was mean spirited.
Speaker 10 (10:21):
I was done as a joker.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I wouldn't have done it if the Mike Tomlin thing
hadn't happened. Honestly, Oh God, that Mike Tomlin joke happened
that I was like, Oh, this is perfect, because why
would like Christopher mad Dog Luzzo, essentially a tennis and
baseball guy, got a great get.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, no, it might not have been on it's on
his network. Maybe he wasn't on mad Dog's show. Maybe
it was uh.
Speaker 10 (10:44):
Serious x NFL channel maybe or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
No, no, it's no, No, it's mad Dog Radio.
Speaker 10 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Mad Dog Radio has channels like for just NBA shows
and just NFL show.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They got hosts there and.
Speaker 10 (10:57):
Of NBA show.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, no, no, they just have They just have host
there like somebody does the mornings and then they do
mid day and then they do it.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
We've had him on the show before, though according to
my notes, it's not like we it's funny on the show.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't remember, no that we we could have used
him where he's the most overrated player in the Biggest
trash talker. Yeah, I guess, so did you reach out
to the buffet? Are you the most overrated?
Speaker 11 (11:21):
But wow, this is a Friday, it's a Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, you're right, you're right, Todd.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I was just having I swear, I swear I've only
been working with you twenty two.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Years and I wouldn't get sentive to that and anytime
anyone I've done with that on previous shows in place
I've worked that show.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I was surprised Mike Tomlin was doing a national interview.
That was the surprise. It could have been on Jim
Rome or Colin Cowhard. I would have said, oh, Mike
Tomlin doing an interview. I just said, he's doing an
interview with Rich Eisen. You go, yeah, the face of
the NFL. And then I was like.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Unlike you that for some reason, I have not been
able to get my topoho the show.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
That's how I heard it. I guess that's just my
sensitivity and make it about me all the time.
Speaker 11 (12:17):
Yes, Martin, Yeah, Friszy just sent me a rhyme time
seating Mario Lopez, seating Mario Lopez. Okay, Trader Slater recovery.
You're laughing, we're laughing, we're laughing.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
You haven't gotten on the show.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Reason do we have time for rhyme time?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Checking my rundown?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And I'm not sure, Paulie, you're the producer here if
other producers would.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Probably find time for rhyme time.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I don't want to be overrated.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
List okay, checking, Okay, Todd, I'm here, Okay, are you
gonna have rhyme time a little later on, I do
have okay, I just want to make sure right after
our quarterbacking segment here coming up and Josh Allen, one
of those quarterbacks that we didn't get on the show,
was making the lounge.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
I think it was on like ten different shows except
for promote except.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
God, just pour all the salt in the womb.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I don't know. Oh God, you got forty five more
minutes to put up.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
Yeah, I get I get censorive about that stuff and
not such because of you.
Speaker 9 (13:29):
I've worked on other shows and for other companies and
things where that came up. Where that's a long long
time I know, but I know I'm not holding you
responsible for it. But there is that that did bother
me back in the day. And you know what, up
close God versus.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Another show, nobody cares about that now. I'm just saying
that's twenty five years ago. Nobody cares.
Speaker 10 (13:46):
That's that.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
I'm particularly censive about what one show God versus our show.
If you want to push my buns, I guess.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Congratulation I did.
Speaker 10 (13:53):
That's that's an accomplished.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
So you're saying it does bother you when to bring
this stuff, I didn't mean for it to turn into this.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yes, I thought it.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
Yes, but don't you want somebody that cares about their
job like this and maybe not like this?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, we would love someone like.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay, hold on, no, we're not. I don't want to
do this.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I didn't try to do this because I god knows
i'd take credit if I.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Was trying to do this, but I wasn't. I and
Seton started it. No, you started it. You did the
Mike Tomlin thing, and then I followed your lead. No,
but you made it worse by bringing up Josh Allen.
I brought up Mike tom and just say, oh, I
didn't know he did. I don't see him do national radio.
But if I said, did you, Dann.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
Leberton had Brady Quinn on, he got that question that
now that based on that question that got all kinds
of Everyone was playing these sound bytes and this great
question that Lebatta asked Brady Quinn. It was genius and
now everybody's running with it. I wish I could have
thought of that. Try to make comparisons between like all
of our job other shows, people play similar roles.
Speaker 10 (14:58):
I think that's all.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So you're making fun of me.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
I said that, like, Wow. There was some interviewed by
Dan Lebatone.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
I had Pretty Quinn on and he asked such questions
that pretty Quinn opened up and said all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
He's never said no no.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
If he had Mike Tomlin, then then I would have
been impressed with his questions, or Josh Allen, if Levitard
was asking the question of him, I don't. There are
guys who asked great questions too. Tom It's okay. I
don't get offended.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
I'm just giving an exampt I go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I know, but it doesn't. It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 10 (15:29):
You're a less sensive, You're you're tough with them me.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I am, yes, I am. Do you want to go
home now? I'm fine, No you can't.
Speaker 10 (15:36):
I don't know what the trophy is for being who's
less and more censive. I don't really win anything.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
Just being honest that that's a button pusher for me.
This show got this guy and we didn't get God.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
We all lose. We all lose. When you lose, we
all lose. Okay, how about how about a round of
applause for Todd.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
I'm looking for him.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Come on, come on, let's go.
Speaker 10 (16:01):
I don't need to be Patrick Patrick.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh yeah, Patrick, Yes you do.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
I do like a patter of the back.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Oh my god, once in a while. Stop now you're lying.
I'm out a round of applause for toime. Come on,
I can't even get a round of applause from here.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Hello, down, position.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
To take.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
All right.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Let me tell you, I gotta take a break. I
gotta take a break. It's Meet Friday by the way. Yeah,
sausage juice. All right, we're gonna take a break. We're
gonna read group. Come on, let's get up. Come on.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yes, you know who loves chicking meat? False Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Oh, I just read out his bio.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
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I was curious the last time Clemson came into a
game as an underdog of ten or more points. September
of twenty twelve, Clemson tenth in the country, fourteen and
a half point underdog at number four Florida State. Florida
State won that game forty nine to thirty seven, twelve
point underdog against Georgia coming up on Saturday. He's Mike
(18:07):
Sando back on the program, senior NFL writer at the
Athletic and he has ranked the quarterbacks different tiers here,
so it's not ranking them now. This is yearly that
he does this, and for the first time since twenty sixteen,
only three quarterbacks landed in Tier one. Aaron Rodgers not
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there for the first time in the eleven year history
that he's been doing it. Mike, good to see you again. Now,
based on your rankings, the lowest ranked quarterback who will
start Week one is who.
Speaker 13 (18:42):
Probably Jacoby Brissett. By to scroll all the way down,
Joe Verssett is just seen as a really great backup
quarterback and somebody you wouldn't probably want to have start
the whole season. So it may be a little unfair
to compare him to the other guys that are earning
a lot more money. But we wanted to have all
the veteran starters represented, and I think that probably accurately
(19:02):
reflects how even the Patriots feel about him. They want
them to start, but probably not for too long.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Did you think about putting Mahomes on his own tier?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Well? I did.
Speaker 13 (19:13):
First off, to do this ranking, I talked to fifty
coaches and execs in the league, seven GM's, eight head coaches,
a dozen coordinators.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
A bunch of people.
Speaker 13 (19:21):
So it's there rankings really based on their criteria that
I've gleaned from them. And one of the comments was
from one of the guys I spoke with, can we
have a tier zero for Mahomes? Because I think Mahomes
is different historically Dan. If you look at the multiple
championship winning quarterbacks, you can start Bradshaw, Joe Montana, get
(19:42):
into Aikman, far Brady. They usually did it with not
just good defenses, but elite. The forty nine ers led
the league in fewest points allowed in the eighties. People
don't really know that Mahomes in nineteen and twenty two
won the Super Bowl on teams that weren't even top
half of the league, and then last year's defense was
(20:03):
good and he was able to win it without as
good of an offense. But that is a differentiator to me,
not just among the quarterbacks playing today, but it's hard
to find guys who win multiple championships.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Without really good defenses.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
And that's why Brady, and that's why Rogers and Breeze
great quarterbacks Hall of Famers, one ring each. That was
the missing component. They couldn't overcome it. Mahomes has.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So you have three quarterbacks on Tier one, Mahomes and
then the other two quarterbacks.
Speaker 13 (20:36):
Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, with Lamar Jackson just next missing
Tier one by about three votes.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
But if I factor in turnovers here with Josh Allen, like,
how do you quantify the turnovers, and he's had more
turnovers than any other quarterback.
Speaker 13 (20:53):
I don't think any Whenever I talked to coaches or executives,
they never start talking about as.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
They're not.
Speaker 13 (21:03):
The number one reason that Alan wasn't higher and unanimous
he got eleven votes lower than Tier one was because
of the turnovers. Sometimes he just risks the football too much.
They do feel, though he can not only carry an offense.
One of the key components of Tier one for people
in the league is how expertly do you handle the
(21:23):
peer pass situations? Meaning we strip away the run game,
we even strip away your scrambling. Can you drop back
to win the game when we're down and throw and
throw and throw? And they do feel that not only Mahomes,
but Burrow and Alan do that just to tick better
than the other quarterbacks that are below them in the league.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
You know, guys who played the position they love Burrow
like they really they Now the sample size isn't as
big for me as I think it needs to be
to look at his greatness. I mean we saw it
in college. Obviously, they did get to the super Bowl.
He's been banged up a little bit, but it's amazing
how these former quarterbacks look at him and they they
(22:05):
see something you know, Montana like like special, really really special, obvious,
not mahomes Ian. But what is it about Burrow that
makes him, you know, one of the you know, two
best quarterbacks in the league or three.
Speaker 13 (22:19):
Toughness, swag and just incredible passing ability. I think he's
really a good just has an amazing feel for the game.
The defensive guys marvel about him too. More than one
defensive coordinator told me about the time their team played him.
Beat the snot out of them, hit him, and the
defensive linemen are coming back to the coach going, oh
(22:39):
my gosh, this is a real guy.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So I think he really does have you know, he
takes a lot of boxes.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
Now, people all the worry is he takes too many hits,
and these had too many injuries.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
You know, usually the great quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Don't miss games.
Speaker 13 (22:55):
I mean even you know these guys who played for
a long time, I have two hundred starts in a row,
the rivers or some of the elis, some of your
guys or yeah, farv And so that's the weird thing.
One defensive coach who's played him a number of times
said the guy doesn't fall right. I don't know if
there's some science to that, but usually these guys like
Burrow have such a great feel for the game that
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they kind of avoid some of those injuries.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
How do you evaluate Rock Purdy?
Speaker 13 (23:23):
Well, so, Brock Purdy moved up thirteen spots from last year.
He was a little bit of a provisional guy last
year because he didn't have as many starts coming in.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But here's what I think.
Speaker 13 (23:33):
Everybody points to Kyle Shanahan and the weaponry, and I think.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That's rightly so.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
But if you're just a consistent producer, you're gonna move
solidly into Tier two. And if he were to do
this for ten years straight, he'd probably find his way
into Tier one. But when people play him, they're not like,
oh my god, there's not some amazing superpower that he
has that wows you. You just can't discount the production
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when it's that good and consistent. So I think that's
why he's in Tier two. He's kind of in the
bottom half of Tier two. I bet you he could
come up to the middle. But I do see a
little bit of a line. If you look at the
first four guys in Tier two Lamar, Herbert Stafford, Rogers.
Those guys are like it's a debate. They get a
ton of Tier one ers, you know, tier one votes.
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I'm not sure Perdy. We'll see if Perdy is going
to get that. You know, maybe maybe he leads them
to the Super Bowl win and that does it.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
If I think we looked at the numbers the other day,
Mahomes has had the best start of a career I
think of any quarterback in the modern era. Ye, but
if I look at him and Brady at twenty seven,
twenty eight years of age, is that a fair comparison?
I give is Brady second to Mahomes if we look
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at that first, you know, five years, six years in
the league.
Speaker 13 (24:56):
I think he is because I think the composition of
that New England team, they were so good defensively from
the from the start, and he was amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Unless not.
Speaker 13 (25:07):
I mean we're comparing a Ferrari and a Lamborghini here.
Not discounting Tom Brady at all. But I do look
at degree of difficulty, and to me, the way you
look at that is just what are the things that
the quarterback can't control?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
An influence?
Speaker 13 (25:20):
Yeah, you can put your defense in a better position
or a worse position. But that is what I look
at defense and even special teams was was lights out
I think for most of the Belichick era. So to me,
it's been a little bit higher degree of difficulty, with
probably more placed on the quarterback earlier. I think the way,
you know, the mobility of Mahomes and his resourcefulness that way,
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you know, has probably put a little bit more of
it on his back than it was for Brady that early.
You look at Tom Brady going along when they get
to seven and they had the weaponry, then I think he,
you know, was really putting it on his shoulders more.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Talking to Mike Sando's senior NFL writer at the Athlete
and eleven year history of ranking these quarterbacks in different tiers,
and for the first time in the eleven year history,
Aaron Rodgers is not in that tier one. How do
you assess Rogers now or how did the coaches assess Rogers?
Speaker 13 (26:15):
Yeah, I think everybody, most people feel that if he's healthy,
he's still a top tier quarterback. But he got votes
in like four tiers. I mean, it's kind of silly,
but there's a lot of uncertainty. There's some feeling among
people that hey, he wasn't quite as good at the
end of Green Bay, then doesn't last very long New Environment,
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whole season on turf. All sort of believe it when
I see it. So a good number of people, I
think twenty three put him in Tier one, but eighteen
people that put him in Tier two are probably thinking
that I'm just going to knock him down a tier
because there is some uncertainty.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And then there was a minority of.
Speaker 13 (26:51):
People nine that put him in that put him lower
than that, and I think they're saying, hey, the decline
has started.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
It's going to be hard for him to reac acture
what he was. So we'll see. I can't wait.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
That's one of the things this season you just can't
wait for, is like what rogers are we going to get?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
How do you look at the rookie quarterbacks?
Speaker 13 (27:13):
So Caleb Williams would be the one I think people
are most excited about and optimistic about. And then I
do believe that it would be Jaden Daniels next. And
then I feel like there's a split on may you know,
just some of the people that I've talked to, you
get a little bit more of disagreement of how good
they think he can be. And then you go on
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to Pennix, who I personally really liked him and just
as a pastor in college. But it seems like a
lot of people think he's more of a finished product
and they wonder how much better he's going to get.
So we'll see about that. JJ McCarthy. I think we're
just gonna have to wait on and then bow Nix.
It's really all the fit with Peyton. I think if
you like bo Nicks, you like Sean Payton, and you're
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betting on that combination more than and that's sart of
the skill set.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Of bo Nicks or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Well, a lot of good stuff, a lot of good
information here. It's at the Athletic and it's Mike Sando's column,
senior NFL writer there.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Good to talk to you again, Mike. Good luck, have
fun in the upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Thank you you too.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
That's Mike Sando and joined the Athletic. He spent twelve
years I think at the mothership, the Pro Football Hall
of Fame voter.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Yes, Paul, I'm with you on the Mahomes thing. It
does feel like he's earned the right to have his
own tier it's weird that I'm actually a little bothered.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
By You're bothered by it.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Well, it's like Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, their careers
really aren't that close to Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
No, it's a big he's a lapping the field.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I guess I'm surprised.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
It feels like there's this negative blowback on Josh Allen
that he can't win the big one here, can't handle
you know, the big moment there, he too many turnovers,
whatever it might be. I always feel like when he's playing,
Buffalo has a chance to win, and I can't say
that about every quarterback. I feel like because of him
they can win a game. Burrow, I feel that way. Mahomes,
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I feel that way. And then it starts to get
a little diceier where you're going?
Speaker 11 (29:13):
All Right?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Do I fully believe that that quarterback can somehow find
a way to win a game? And that sometimes is
the real litmus test, at least for me.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yes? Yes, uh, Marvin, Yes.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
So it is?
Speaker 11 (29:25):
Marvin Hey, Marvin Hey, is this the perfect storm for
Josh Allen to win MVP? No, Stefan Diggs, everyone's kind
of down to you guys this year, not expecting you
guys to be Super Bowl contenders.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Might be harder.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, I guess the storyline is there, but he's
still got to produce and these young these young receivers,
they got to be able to step up. And they
do have young talent there and a couple of good
tight ends. But trying to assess this handicap this, you know,
the draft is loaded with people where we go. Man
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didn't see that one for variety of reasons, either really
good or really bad. Dak Prescott had something to say
about his owner, Jerry Jones. The coverage doesn't always match
the headline here because it feels like no Dak Prescott
takes a shot at his owner. Here is Dak Prescott,
and it starts with the reporter's question.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Jerry said, the negotiation isn't about your merit as the
Cowboys quarterback, but more about there.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
What do you take from that when he says, you know,
it's not really about what you're doing.
Speaker 14 (30:31):
Yeah, I understand that that's the business and the nature
of this game that we play. Yeah, I mean I
stopped honestly listening to things that he says to the
media a long time ago, so it doesn't really hold
away with me.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Okay, Now if I just printed that as opposed to
you hearing that, you would have a different take on that.
He was also asked about is he going to get
a contract before the season starts?
Speaker 14 (30:56):
As I said, well back in camp, it's two parts
of this. Both sides have to come to the room.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
You don't need a deal done before the season. I
don't need a no no, do what you like it
done before the season.
Speaker 14 (31:07):
I think it says a lot if it is or
if it isn't. But however it doesn't. It doesn't really
matter to me, to be honest.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
With you, What does this say if it isn't.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Just how people feel?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Okay, and I applaud the reporter, good follow up question there.
But if I'm Dak Prescott, I'm not Once the season starts,
I'm going to play this out because you had your time,
nothing's changed. I am who I am, and you know
what the market's going to be. And then if you
play well, I mean, didn't he get a new deal
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after you know, messing up his ankle, breaking his ankle?
Like I think he's okay, and he handles this well,
he really does, because this is every day, this is
many times a day people want to ask you about this,
pin you down, relationship with Jerry, relationship with cde Lamb,
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you know, your play amongst the great quarter like all
of this stuff, and I think he handles it extremely well.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Does that sound easy?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Not many quarterbacks get all of these questions all of
the time, and Dak Prescott does. It goes along with
the territory being the Cowboys quarterback. But hey, if he
plays well, bets on himself. Get to the off season,
they're going to be teams waiting to sign him. Let
me take a break. Last call for phone calls? What
we learn, what's in store tomorrow? And Todd has his
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rhyme time. We're all excited for rhyme time.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Come on now, did that sound fake.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
A little bit?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Okay? Good catch?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
You see right through us, don't you okay? Okay? Now
you're here going to be his buddy?
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Don't okay?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
You know your microphone is on. I can hear what
you're saying.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
You know how they are?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
All right?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Let me take a break, and if you're watching on Peacock,
we're going out to the grilling area Triggerville and sampling
meat Friday back After.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
This, be sure to catch the live edition of The
Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It's a meat Friday. Fifteen more minutes. Here we go. Oh,
since I was a time that ball.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Last call for phone calls? What we learn, what's in
store for Monday? All of that forthcoming, but we make
way for rhyme time. Come on, now here we go.
This is exciting. Todd, tell the audience how rhyme time works.
Speaker 9 (33:47):
I'm gonna give you two words. The answers are words
that rhyme with one another, Okay. For example, Bengal keenum
Bengal keenum tiger. We were looking for Chase case.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I thought it was a angled tiger. Okay, so jamar
Chase case keenu. That's how rime time works.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
How about Utah cheeks Utah.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Cheeks special agent.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Or or a school's nickname Utah cheeks.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Special cheeks glutes. Okay, that's how it works.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
That's how about goat Eminem, not the chocolate goat Eminem?
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Who's the goat?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Brady?
Speaker 10 (34:44):
Who's Eminem?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Please stand on?
Speaker 10 (34:51):
Gilmore Chelsea Gilmore Chelsea Girls.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Gilmore like your buddy, oh happy Gilmore.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Right, I know you're talking about the Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Girl, Gilmore Chelsea girls, Sandler Chandler handler.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
Handler Gilmore Chelsea.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
How about booters not throwing up booters candy bar booters,
candy bar booters.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
What is a booter?
Speaker 10 (35:20):
A booter would be someone like that, like kicks a ball.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Booters.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I've never heard somebody.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
I'm just I'm just looking for a ryk booters candy bar.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
If if booters is someone who kicks the ball, that
would be what and.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
What uh kicker kicker snickers snickers.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Improvement labors, improvement like significant improvement in the sports world,
improvements and labors. Who's a team that significantly improved that
we were talking about recently in baseball? The royals and
labors another word for labors, royal toils, royals, toyls.
Speaker 10 (36:03):
I can't make them too easy. Got to challenge a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Cat skills, how about you make them good cat skills.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
N D State cat skills in D State.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Something Hoosiers who trained in the.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Cat skills that was pretty devastated cat skills.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
And there you go.
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Tyson piano man Samari piano that was an easy one,
uh Express Hibbin Express. That was a nickname of someone
that played express.
Speaker 10 (36:39):
It would be Ryan Lyon. That's exactly what that would be.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Mouth guard and you know how I feel about that
mouthguard concern, mouth guard concern.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
Who plays with their mouthguard?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Curry worry, curry worry would be mouth guard concerned. Are
we proud or embarrassed that we get the Yes?
Speaker 9 (37:02):
Humorous badger, humorous badger.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Like a football player badger.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Humorous badger, honey, humorous badger, honey, honey, honey. When sometimes
I think of it in my head and I'm like, Nah,
that can't be well, let me say it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And then it is two more.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
Quick ones Tennis Nathaniel Tennis Nathaniel.
Speaker 11 (37:27):
Racket, Hackey hacket.
Speaker 10 (37:30):
And we'll wrap it up with the sports car Insider.
Sports Car Insider.
Speaker 15 (37:38):
Something we're gonna make fun of because it's not an
exact rhyme. Just after Ferrari, look at.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
The judges had a Camaro Peliso, Camaro Peliso sports car.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Did you add that one in the last minute? Man,
you know what, We're all done? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Thanks, then it's great, Todd, thank you, thank you for.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
All your contributions.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No, I'm serious. Thanks for all your contributions. Coming up
on Monday, Josh Allen and Mike Tomlin will be on
the show.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
It to me you can't get those guys.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Maybe we could get Rich Eizen on to talk about interviews.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Interview? Yes, what's it like to interview? Great guests?
Speaker 10 (38:25):
You get those guys?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
How's that work this day?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Oh damn, I'm gonna have to deal with this as
soon as the show ends.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I got to do it.
Speaker 10 (38:35):
Not even in the face of the NFL. Why would
football players and coaches come the whole team?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'm only one, that is true, Paulie, this dame sports.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
I'll just give you a quick one.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Two thousand and one, Ashley Martin became the first woman
to play in a D one football game. She kicked
three extra points.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Oh, Pete Rose, your boy in nineteen sixty six hit
home runs from both sides of the plate. It's the Cardinals,
not a.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Home run hitter.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
By the way, when Ashley was kicking for Jacksonville State,
she was kicking.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
The game was against Cumberland.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Isn't Cumberland the one that lost two hundred and twenty
two to nothing to Georgia Tech when John Heisman was
the head coach.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
They covered them. They did cover the spread.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Okay, the Longest Yard the original nineteen seventy four was
released in movie theaters.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
I see anything else here. Ti Cobb made his debut.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Mike Powell broke Bob Beaman's record in the long jump.
That was nineteen ninety one. I never thought that that
would be broken because he did it. What at sea
level with in Mexico City? Is that right, Bob Beaman?
I remember watching that. I was like, he just kept floating,
just like, oh my god. I wonder how far could
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he have left from the top of the key? Could
Bob Beaman? I don't know if Bob played basketball if
he could done. But if I look at where he
ran and took off.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
From, because the three point line would be what about
twenty three feet yeah, and he's jumping thirty he's.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Jumping twenty nine, twenty nine to four. He would have
got so obviously from the top of the key, he
would have gone from outside the three point line. I
don't know if he could have dunked it, but that's
pretty impressive. Okay, let's go around the room. What we
learned on the program Todd, would you learn today?
Speaker 9 (40:24):
You talk to you b Cam Rising in his seventh
season playing college. Well, time to grow up, move on
with your life and get a job.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Seaton, what did you learn today?
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Brady Quinn had a boring time as the Notre Dame
head coach.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah. When I said what'd you do like crazy?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
He goes, Oh, I was driving my car on this
sidewalk one time to get you because there was construction
and then the cops came.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Wow.
Speaker 15 (40:45):
Marvin Josh Allen was on Mad Dog Radio Fall League
guys suck. I'm not gonna take the bait.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
I'm I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
There's no Tier zero Yes for Mahomes, Yeah, Todd, Would
I learn.
Speaker 9 (40:59):
Travis hu appears to be the frontrunner right now with
a septizement or would it be the oggsman?
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