September 18, 2024 • 41 mins
After Shohei Ohtani hit his 48th homerun in his chase for 50/50, Dan wonders if his amazing season will be forgotten if he doesn’t reach his goals in either stat despite being one of the greatest offensive seasons in history. And NFL Network analyst and former NFL WR Steve Smith Sr. stops by and weighs in on the struggle for Carolina Panthers QB Bryce Young after he was benched in favor of Andy Dalton.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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The Dan Patrick Show. And speaking of stats, we like
round numbers. It's just easier that way. Somebody had a
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triple double, Oh, that's awesome. Somebody rushed for one thousand yards.
We like that. And it feels like if sho Hey
Otani doesn't go fifty to fifty, it'll be a disappointment
because we want the fifty to fifty because then it's
easier to then talk about it. If he ends up
with forty nine homers in forty eight stolen bases or
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vice versa, it's like, oh, remember Otani had the forty
nine forty eight or was it the forty eight to
forty nine. But if he goes fifty to fifty, never
been done, and it'll be treated differently historically, I think,
because we'll look back and go, man, he went fifty
to fifty. I mean it's unfair to him. And once again,
(01:09):
this is how it sounded last night where he hit
his latest home runch.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Tony swings HiT's a dry deep to right field.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It is into the upper deck for home run number
forty eight, and.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
The Dodgers on the board it's forty two.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's shaw hel Toney hits.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Us first home run on the road trip.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Number forty eight.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Dodgers Radio Network, AM five seventy. You guys look like
you're in disagreement there on how history will treat a
fifty to fifty as opposed to was it forty nine
forty eight or forty eight forty nine? Yes, Seden, But yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Don't think forty eight is as good as fifty. I
don't think forty nine is as good as fifty fifty
as it's like a whole other level that you just reached.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But is it only because it sounds better, No, that
makes it better.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It's like it's like hitting another tier where it's like
and you know, hey, you won one or you won ten,
what's the difference or kind of right next to each other.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Not really, they're totally different. So for us, well, Westbrook
didn't average ten assist he averaged nine point eight. Is
that somehow take away from nearly averaging a triple double
as opposed to averaging a triple double. Yeah, the word
nearly is massive.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
He almost did like like they always say, like my
dad always says, a close only counts in horseshoes and
hand grenades. You know, yeah, oh you almost did. Wow,
that was almost awesome. It's still awesome, just not as awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, it's because we don't take the time then to go, oh,
you average nine point eight assist. It's just easier to say, man,
I got a triple double, he had a great game,
or he averaged a triple double, he had a great season.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yes, Pauline, Yeah, I disagree with seating and that it's
it's more consumable. Like you said, it's easier to consume.
But if I said, it's one of the historic greatest
power speed seasons in baseball history from a guy who
shouldn't be doing that at his size, it's unfortunate that
forty nine to forty nine would diminish it because it's
the same. It's just a concocted number and a concocted stat.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, you had Ronald Acunya Junior the third who had
one of the greatest seasons in baseball history, but it
didn't have a magic ring to it. What did he have?
Seventy seventy two stolen bases and forty homeless.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Forty one homers, seventy three steals. I think the forty
one seventy three clock, Why isn't that a thing? Okay,
so it's diminished, then it isn't diminished. It's it's an
unbelievable accomplishment. It's just not what the other one is.
Hitting fifty home runs is a season, but it's not
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as good as hitting sixty home runs. That doesn't mean
fifty is is an awesome but it's just not as good.
There's not a magical ring to Akunya's season. The forty
one seventy three club. I mean, you're right in that
he if he went forty four, he might get more
recognition if he went forty forty then forty one seventy three,
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But then I don't know what numbers do we really
care about anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
In baseball, orange sports in general.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Let's just say in general, like, what numbers do you
go that still has a magical ring? If somebody gets
to that point, you know in baseball, fifty fifty to
fifty would be you know, kind of the final frontier. Yes, pone.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
So with Otani, if he hits forty nine forty nine,
it's a drop off from fifty to fifty, but he
goes fifty one fifty one, it doesn't help at all.
So that one extra doesn't change it. It actually makes
it more awkward because we're still going to call it
the fifty to fifty club when he's in the fifty
one fifty.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Technically you're in the fifty to fifty club if you
hit fifty one steel fifty, but.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
He's in the back room of the fifty to fifty
club at the fifty one.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's one clubs Like it's like, would you rather have
forty nine million dollars or fifty million dollars? Forty Nine's
close enough, still good, Yeah, but right, I take the
fifty though, But I'm Richie's better. I'm rich either way, correct,
and shoe Heo. Tani in this scenario is rich either way.
He's either hitting forty nine, forty eight and forty nine, fifty,
fifty one and fifty two, whatever it is. But the
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five in the beginning is better. Than the four in
the beginning. It's like basic mathematics.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It is there's a perceptions actually true, fifty is more
than forty nine.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Checking This is like one of those things that like
like if Paul said, the fact is teams win better
when they have piping on their uniforms is indisputable fact, Like, uh, okay,
I guess, but it's not really you know what I mean.
Just I don't know that we're really only focused on
the fifty to fifty because it's easy to say.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
God, I'm hoping Otani gets fifty to fifty. Now just
get fifty to fifty and then you know week and
wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Rather be hoping that he doesn't so you can well
for the topic use, I mean, it's just as good.
Forty nine is just as good as fifty. Everybody that
it's still a great season.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It'll feel like it'll feel The point I'm making is
it'll feel like a disappointment to people because he didn't
get to fifty to fifty, because they don't want to
go I think he had forty nine forty eight or
was a forty eight forty It makes it easier on
people to say, hey, he went fifty to fifty that
year is it?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Are?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So you're saying, are people are disappointed he's not going
to get there because man, no, it's harder for me
to say yes, not that fifty is better than forty nine.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yees yeah, okay, yeah, because when I say, Russell, you're
not going.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
To get into the Hall of Fame because you hit
forty nine and it's hard to say, or because you
hit fifty and that's a better number.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, no, those people actually do a deep dive into
your numbers before they elect you to the Hall of Fame,
whereas the casual sports fan probably wouldn't. People didn't even
I brought up Bronocunya Junior. You guys didn't even know
that he was in the forty one of such baseball
Nobody cares. You may not watch baseball, but you'll rememb
number fifty to fifty with Otani because of the numbers.
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It's it's rounded off. If I say Russell, what Westbrook
Junior the third? If I try to say Russell Westbrook
Junior the third, it's a tough name. MVP season, then
you go, oh, yeah, you average a triple double. Hey,
if I bring up any of Lebron's MVP seasons, you
have no idea the numbers. Hey, how about Jordan's MVP?
(07:27):
You have no idea. The one MVP we know Russell
Westbrook Junior, the third he averaged a triple double. We
like it, so it's easy, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I think with Otani it's about being in a new
club because if he gets forty nine to forty nine,
he's still in the forty forty club. Oh he's in
the back room. So he's still in the same club.
Fifty to fifty it's a whole new club.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yes, let's say hypothetic. Hypothetically.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
JK.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Dobbins of the Chargers ran fornineteen hundred and ninety four
yards this year. We what we instead of we would
congratulate them and be semi historic because it's hasn't been
done in a long time. Two thousand, But he didn't
get two thousand. It's a bit similar like if you
ran for nineteen hundred and ninety six.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, okay, Tyreek Hill didn't get to two thousand yards
last year, but he came pretty close. Does anybody know
what the final tab was? No, because he didn't get
to two thousand. We love it. It's really easy for
us to remember. Yees see.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So if he ran for the people wouldn't remember two
thousand and one yards. I just remember two.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Thousand, he would. I don't know how many yards Terrell
Davis had. It was two thousand. Yeah, but nobody cares
about football numbers. Wait, so nobody cares about baseball numbers.
Nobody cares about football.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
People used to care about baseball numbers until steroids. Okay,
and at that time, we were doing the radio show saying,
why don't we care about football numbers?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Nobody cares about football namers. I can rattle off all
these baseball numbers. I know all of this stuff, but
nobody cares about football. Now we don't care. We don't care.
There's no, there's no, there's no I know. I'm the
one who said it originally, No I did. I did.
We don't care about numbers because unless there's nothing in
football where you go, wow, that's a magical season. I
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mean two thousand yards, Yes, that would be if a
receiver gets to two thousand yards even when somebody broke up.
You know Tom Brady's single season touchdown mark? I mean,
did Peyton do that?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
How many is what's the record. I don't think anybody cares.
But if somebody throws sixty touchdown passes, we'll remember that.
If a receiver gets to two thousand yards, we'll remember that.
I'm just saying I think we like convenient numbers.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Yes, Marvin, I think the magical number of football was
two thousand yards for a running back. Because, off the
top of my head, I can name Chris Johnson, Jamal Lewis,
O J. Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson. That's just off
the top of my head. That's the only number in football.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Kind of a brag by you there, what's that? I
thought that was kind of a brag. I would just
be ahead and flex off the top of my head.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
No flex zone over here.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sorry guys. By the way, Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I do have the list. It's Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson,
Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, Derrick Henry, Terrell Davis, Chris Johnson,
and O. J. Simpson. Want to hear the guy who's
never going to get his due for this, because no
one's going to go to bat for this guy. OJ
Simpson should be considered the single season rushing king. He
had two thousand and three yards in a fourteen game season. Yeah,
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everyone else had sixteen chances to get two thousand. He
had fourteen chances. He rushed for one hundred and forty
three yards a game. No one else ran for over
one hundred and thirty two yards a game. He's clearly
the single season rushing king. But because no one's gonna
go to bat for OJ first of all historically, Yeah,
but uh, it's you know, the season has been expanded.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But did Jim Brown? Did they play twelve games? Right?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Jim Brown? Brown rushed for like eighteen sixty three or
cracked eighteen sixty three are on the screws bop nineteen
sixty three in twelve games. I have that as fourteen games.
Oh okay, Well, then he started his career, Jim Brown.
He started with twelve games I think as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
But OJ Simpson has the record, Okay, yards per game.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
In a season. Well, congratulations, Jeeves. Yes, Tom Pauli said
it with his JK.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Dobbins theoretical if he's got under two thousand yards, he
used the word semi historic, and that's what it is.
Were you a great season? But if you don't hit
those magic numbers that are easy to abbreviate and digest.
It just becomes a semi historic accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Thank you, Tom Well. All right, Pole question for hour
two is going to be but Steve Smith, senior NFL
Network former Carolina Panther, five time Pro Bowl wide receiver
joins us in about ten minutes. Kirk Cousins joinses in
an hour from now. Just got word from Saquon Barkley's
camp next Tuesday. Wait a minute, what happens if the
(12:00):
Eagles don't win in New Orleans? So he's got to
join us on Tuesday, win or lose?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
You know, I would I would expect.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, who's taking the Eagles in New Orleans this weekend?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Oh? I, I think we all have to take it
right if if.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Barkley's uh health and well being, guest, I'm going to
take the.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Eagles, Especially the way the last game ended, They've got
to take it out on somebody, and the way that
game played out at the end, I think they're going
to be a very angry bunch of birds going to
the Big easy.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Okay, thank you, Tod Chiefs bring back Kareem Hunt and
it looks like Justin Fields gets the start again for Pittsburgh.
Did Mike Tomlin talk about how he came up with
naming Justin Fields as his starter? He had a press
conference yesterday. I know food was involved with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
There's certain things that go on among teams that I
don't talk about. Whether it gets out or how it
gets out is unimportant to me, and I'm not overly
guarded against it. But it's just certain things as a
leader that I talked to the collective about that I
have zero intentions of sharing with the larger public because
it's about our collective and how we come together and
how we appreciate and support one another. And you know,
(13:24):
I can't give you all the ingredients of the hot dog.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You might not like it. Coach, who's going to be
your starting quarterback?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
One question like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Just all we want to know. I don't need the
ingredients of a hot dog. We don't need to see
how the sausage is made. Just tell me who your
quarterback is. That's all long winded way of saying none
of your business there.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yes, by the way, I just googled ingredients and a
hot dog do not look at that. Thank you, just
move out your life.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Just enjoy them. You enjoy them, Yeah, just enjoy You
may not like the ingredients of Justin Fields, just enjoy
him as he's out there. I think Steve Smith Senior
is saying he said this a couple of weeks ago
about Russell Wilson. I think the analogy is he's like
the dad who went out to get cigarettes and never
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came back. That Russ isn't coming back. So we'll talk
to Steve Smith, he'll join us.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I mean, he's just got a caf sprain. He didn't
abandon this.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Family, no, no, yeah. And also, sources close to me
tell me this could be the anniversary of one of
the more stranger things that happen on this program. Okay,
I think this might be the day. But I'm going
to have to get some of my best people on
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this obviously, not the people in front of me, but
the people behind the scenes can help me with this
anniversary of sorts. All right, we'll take a break, talk
some football, try to get some phone calls in here
as well. Back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (16:16):
Before we get to our next guest, he is one
of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to
have the triple Crown. Now that's he did it in
two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL
in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to
Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm
(16:38):
gonna throw out. So there's four other guys who have
won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
There's four, including Steve Smith's.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh okay, so life to name three?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So if I say Randy Moss, he did not. If
I say Lance Alworth.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay,
the first one was it in our list? Here is
nineteen ninety cow uh uh Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice is okay,
all right, I've heard of him. The other one was
within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh yeah, that's right. We did mention that.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
And then the other one. Here's the big hints. This
guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for
a neck injury. Sterling Sharp, Sterling Sharp is correct?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Sterling sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts.
That's a pretty good company there, Steve. What do you
remember about that two thousand and five season.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Well, well, first, good morning, Uh, it was a long
time ago. I think I had hair back then, So
that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
But do you help Cam? That was Cam's rookie year,
wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, sir, No, Cam was uh I think in middle
school at that.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, No, this was Jake de Low. Okay, but you know,
you look at that. Why haven't we had more receivers
win the triple Crown?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I mean, it's it's a tough it's a tough deal
to do, to leak in all the categories, it's very rare.
I'm not gonna sit here into my own horn, but
you know, everything has to lie. You got to have
the right combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense
got to be flowing, good pass game, good run game.
(18:33):
You know, kind of just structurally things have to fall
in place.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I had a couple of topics to get to. Two
of going on the IR as opposed to concussion protocol.
What does that mean to you when you see him
go on the IR so he's gone for at least
four weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It gives an opportunity where you could take your time
and figure out what you need to do, sort out
some kind of plan. Also, like the fact that on
those four weeks, it's not like he has to play,
so that means he gets to take his time to
talk to his doctors. You know. Going through decision making
like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to
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be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows,
and a lot of conversations that he needs to have
and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I
believe it at least gives him the starting point not
to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow,
because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes
(19:32):
based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, just concerned me that it was four weeks as
opposed to week by week that And I don't know
if you agree. If you get a concussion, you're more
susceptible to getting another concussion.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's
had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like what
for myself, I've only had one concussion in my career. However,
it took me about three weeks to really just come
out of it. It was a pretty bad concussion. It
was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I
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got a concussion. Actually I was getting up and someone
I didn't know and someone at the back of my head.
I hit their knee Like they didn't hit me. I
hit them obviously because I don't really have even though
my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the
back of my head. And I hit it right there
in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong
(20:37):
because I was in a huddle. We said break and
they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me,
I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So,
I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys
who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know,
everybody's built differently, so to be able to say that
(20:58):
we know how everyone handles it, and all of these
armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know,
I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters.
So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we
all should sit back and allow to it to make
his own decision on his career and allow him fit
(21:19):
to deal with what he wants to deal with, versus
us giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, let's be honest,
if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why
do we have to Why are we giving our input
on something that really we don't have a hand in it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl
wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were
a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the
decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, he's got to roll with the next guy.
People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is.
If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing.
Who's the next guy up? Next man? Is there for
whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is now
all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm hearing
everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him. I
(22:10):
think the fact that they sat him down, I think
that's a good thing. And the reason why I believe
that's a good thing is because this. If you see
a young man sitting there and you throw him in
a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a little bit,
you don't remove him from the swimming pool and throw
him in the ocean and say, okay, with the bigger tides,
he should be okay because he was drafted first overall,
(22:33):
should he should be fine? Or hey, get rid of him?
How about do what they're doing is allow him to
sit back, evaluate and then maybe train them and gradually
put them back in there when he can also learn
the game. He was a great processor in college, that's
what got him drafted. That doesn't mean what you did
(22:57):
in college you're gonna do that in the NFL, because
that's the that's the level up that's called advancing. That's
why his professionals and amateurs are collegiate. I know NIL
makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what, there are
eighty wide receivers next year and that are trying to
(23:19):
come out. In next year's draft, there were I believe
twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician, but guess what,
not everybody's gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the
word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him,
putting Andydalton in there, and it's hard for him. You
get into bad habits and it feels like he's a
little you know, he wants to make a quick decision.
He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean,
(23:53):
there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen,
and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe
he doesn't play for them, but I would give I
hope he gets another chance this season.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I agree. I think he's I don't know, giving him
another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton does
well and you've brought him in to help him, what
if having a successful season or seeing someone else do
it not every Some people learn differently visual aids. Some
people learn by example. Some people learn by watching other
(24:29):
people do it. So sitting him down and letting him
ride out the season and learning. And now he doesn't
have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things,
maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective. And
maybe you won't, but I'm pretty sure it will because
because when you think about it, this is probably the
first time he's looked at the game from this position,
(24:51):
which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a
bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some
things that you don't see. And that's what makes football
players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we
can take a negative and turnament turn it into a positive.
If we're gonna bitch and say he's he bryce young,
(25:15):
can never recover. Does that mean some of these coaches
who have been giving a head coaching job maybe too
early or or a position too early in their career,
does that mean that they never should get a job there?
You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen, So why
does it happen with players? But yet we could give
(25:36):
a guy a job in the NFL or NBA or
too early, be terrible, god awful, and then a couple
of months later he's at another place worse, and then
it takes them three or four times to realize maybe
he's just a coordinator, not a head coach. That's just me.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Would you stick with Justin Fields in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would
stick with Justin Phils. He's he's winning games for you.
Why why change it because you have a guy that
you brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's
the best trend or personality. This is about who can
(26:21):
do the best job to help you win.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct
that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the
guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we
known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for
cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there
in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and
(26:56):
and and being Russell Dazzel in Denver?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Bro out for cigarettes? Man? He ain't there?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Where did it go?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Steve?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Where did it go?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I don't know. That's why when you go out for
cigarettes get their new ports, Bro, they'll never come back.
So that's just the whole point.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So you would stick with Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, definitely, you know that answer.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Ask, I know you do. You're great at that. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining
us from heaven.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty dreary here in Carolina.
It's raining, So you know what, I want to be
sunshine and rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know,
you know I played with this attitude and this persona man,
and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you
know what, it's good to be allied. Bro. There's some
people that didn't wake up. There's some people that's going
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through some worse circumstances. I get. I get to talk
about football, a game that I love playing. I get
to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here
and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look,
I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life. Bro.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can
you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after
you're done playing?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Absolutely? You know what it's called is called golf, It's
called iron out. I sit there and uh play play
golf and look at it and and and uh I
get on the course, I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper,
and get out there. First first hole, Uh mat I'll
get a par, may even get a birdie. Second hole.
I'm over here looking for my ball out in the woods.
(28:40):
What you're gonna do? Get mad? You just you just
got to take it for what it is, man. And
so that's what I'm trying to do and enjoin it.
I'm forty five years old. Uh hell, I got I
gotta slow down and enjoy life at some point before
life is no more.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us,
tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, you just gotta hang out with me a little
bit more and see you see, you'll see the change
if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've heard worse from
worse and better people, so I'll be okay, better people
than me, Yeah, like my wife. Yeah it's fair. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any
more beefs with players, Like if you see a player
is there still a beef with somebody that you played against.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No, not really, I saw I've running the guys all
the time.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem
with me. I don't have a problem with him.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you
have a he's spit on you?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, but I can't sit around it. I can't sit around.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Him though, Steve, Like.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
To be honest, there, I don't even know where I
would see him. He and I would run into each other.
But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just
fan looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro,
I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him
at a super Bowl or something.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
If if that is the case, I'm gonna I don't
have a really good I don't really have time for that. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, thanks for joining us as always and uh appreciation. Yeah,
enjoy your golf game, Oh will I can't today is raining? Yeah?
My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Should be?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Should be? Not always though always okay, of course always
she was born. Thank you, Steve, No problem both, that's
Steve Smith, senior NFL Network analyst. Remember the three NFC
champion Panthers. We booked him before the Super Bowl, like
(31:14):
five days before the Super Bowl and said, hey, when
you win, come on and join us. And they lost.
But he lived up to his word joined us on
the program. He played with Like you talk about somebody
who played with attitude, Steve played with attitude. He was.
This is one of those where you go pound for
(31:35):
pound in boxing, you would recognize Steve Smith as a
pound for pound guy, like one of the best, because
he was. He was not going to be denied, not
at all. All Right, We're going to take a break.
We have NFL DOUR rankings, so it's either power or Dour. Also,
(31:56):
we celebrate an anniversary eleven years ago on this show,
and I'm just here to talk about qualcomm.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh my god, it is uncomfortable even eleven years later.
Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is
a young star in New York and looking at Tommy
John surgery he had talked about that the day before.
(32:42):
We have him on the day after, and he just
wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the
kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on,
you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to
ask you some questions. It happens all the time on
the show. And we start out, I think it's okay,
(33:02):
but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit.
He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder
and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And
all of a sudden, well, this is how it sounded.
And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen
to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy
(33:24):
John surgery, what does that mean to you as a picture?
Speaker 11 (33:30):
You know? I mean, it's, uh, it's something that obviously
everybody you know knows about. It's it's so common, but
you know, it's it's something you never you never know.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And is it scary when you hear that that you
know that possibility of you're deciding not to do it?
How scary is it?
Speaker 11 (33:49):
You know? It's, uh, it's it's it's kind of where
I mean every picture, can you can you know, relate
to to what's going on? But you know, I think
I didn't. I did all those answers yesterday and and
you know, maybe at the appropriate time we can we
can talk a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh,
(34:10):
you know, today is about call Comb.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You don't want to talk about your you know, this
whole rehab and Tommy John, well, I will, I mean, I.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
We can set up another call if you'd like too
about that subject. But uh, you know, today obviously today
we're honoring and supporting call Com.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh
tell us about Qualcomm. Uh then Matt, Well.
Speaker 11 (34:35):
You know obviously we uh you know, average average person
uses their phone, you know, over a hundred, one hundred
times per day, and you know sometimes.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
This went on for another ninety seconds. You can leave
it underneath me, Marvin, have a way to connect and
like I really cared about Qualcomm. We didn't even know
what Qualcomm was.
Speaker 11 (35:02):
Baseball is you know obviously huge, and stadiums are sold
out everywhere and people.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Are When he says, hey, we could talk about this
at another time, I my head pops up and I
stare right at Fritzy La fantastic. How did we get
into this?
Speaker 11 (35:20):
Pretty much everybody tweeting and using face.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But you know, Todd had no idea bring bring Matt
Harvey up again. And I see just going.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
On Future fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, is unlimited and ordering.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Food, participating in game.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Promotions here, you know, and support, yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:39):
You know, information about the game. You know that way
you don't have to buy a booklet of of.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
All the rock don't want a booklet obviously, information, right, Yeah,
So he just kept going, and then I knew the
interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Your head snaps up, and he says, well, I mean,
I'm happy to set up another an interview at another
time where we can talk about that. Oh my god,
And your head snaps up and you look right over it.
I looked at Todd's so funny.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And all I know is that when that interview ended,
we heard from somebody, a PR person or an agent,
said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry about that. He
nobody told him what he's supposed to do. You can
get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to talk to
you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew He wasn't
(36:27):
a good interview, but he became kind of an interesting
interview because a legendary interview. By the way he answered
the question.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Honored Qualcomb very well.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Did his credit. I will cover. I will say that
that's what he was doing, and he is. He did
a great job with that. Oh it's painful, so painful,
yes to But.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
When you looked at me like that, I really hope
to this day they didn't think for second I had
some kind of agreement with them. Yeah, just we'll just
talk about qualkm you't have to ask him any questions
about baseball, the Mets or surgery.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I know that it was insane, No, I know, you
would you assume that they know, like Kyler Murray did this.
Kyler Murray got on and he didn't say anything, and
then I said, well, tell me about gatorade. And then
he told me about gatorade and then that was it.
He didn't want to answer anything.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Please tell us an advance, you know, sometimes a certain
topic that are up the limits. And then we decided
as a group, then is it worth having that person
on if we can't ask AB or C.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave
us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically
what I was getting out of him.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
It was essentially you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
So the fallout from that, like you said, there was
a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from
PR people over the next several hours. It was decided
that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day.
They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening,
and the next day he reappeared on our show and
said he was going through a lot, he didn't know
(37:57):
what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty well
the next day.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
How could he possibly think correct?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yes, how could he possibly think that we were here
just to talk about like, you know what?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
You know what I've been really thinking about a lot
is Qualcomm? Who can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey
would be the guy to have on. Uh hey, do
you want to talk to him about his elbow?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
No, no, I'm want to talk about Qualcomm. Are you
kidding me? Let's talk about that device? How it helps you?
Oh my god, I just it was one of those
where you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about
his his injury. I mean I already answered all those
questions yesterday. Yesterday. You are in New York, you're a
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star of the Mets, and you don't know how to
do an interview where you get to get your plug
in and answer four questions and then that's it. Oh
my god, he just is he still talking? Marvin?
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Actually he just stopped me.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
He did, and I let him get his plug. He
that's one of the longer plugs ever, the second in
his It did just keeps going on it and he
had no sensible awareness there. He's like, and I could
have said, and I swear to god, I almost did this, Matt,
tell me more about qualcomm because I like, I was
(39:21):
going to make a total farce out of this.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Is sure a website we can go?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah? Yes, Now he did call in yes the day
after that, and then we kind of moved it. I
didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
That that was even a little bit more awkward. Uh,
going back and forth with the PR people that evening.
We agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said, nah.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I
had no interest, but then the Dan answer, They're always
like no, no, no, no, we should have mo on,
you know.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
So crushed nationally as bad as it was, it was
like he really and rightfully so he was like ripped
across the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing
him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it
up that this just happened, but it just somebody else.
Another radio show had him on and treated it like
it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy
John surgery? And he's answering these questions you'd never know that,
(40:24):
you know. Minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to
talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this
show and he can have that provided he never comes
on the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes no, we
would have him back, I go no, one one man, Okay,
why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Well I thought about booking him when his career ended,
I think three years ago, but it didn't go over
well in the room.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Because well, no, but we're talking about today. If you
would have him on again, then you would have him
on today. Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No,
they haven't the last two to five years. Yes, two
to five is a funny line. By way, Wow, he'd.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Prefer to talk about Qualcom if I'm sure I believe.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
He would, and you know his surgery.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I think things have not gone well for Matt. Okay,
are you what analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcomm interview?
It all makes a lot more sense to know what
he was doing while he was with the Mets, and
then to be.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
That much of an idiot. You can google it. Get
it now, you can google it. I forgot about Kyler
Murray's Kirk Cousins on loan from the Falcons coming up,
(41:49):
or of your phone calls as well. What a day?
What a day,
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Nets Dan Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board.
If you're watching, or you're listening, or you're doing both,
Thanks for joining us. Stat of the Day has always
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The Dan Patrick Show. And speaking of stats, we like
round numbers. It's just easier that way. Somebody had a
(00:26):
triple double, Oh, that's awesome. Somebody rushed for one thousand yards.
We like that. And it feels like if sho Hey
Otani doesn't go fifty to fifty, it'll be a disappointment
because we want the fifty to fifty because then it's
easier to then talk about it. If he ends up
with forty nine homers in forty eight stolen bases or
(00:49):
vice versa, it's like, oh, remember Otani had the forty
nine forty eight or was it the forty eight to
forty nine. But if he goes fifty to fifty, never
been done, and it'll be treated differently historically, I think,
because we'll look back and go, man, he went fifty
to fifty. I mean it's unfair to him. And once again,
(01:09):
this is how it sounded last night where he hit
his latest home runch.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Tony swings HiT's a dry deep to right field.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It is into the upper deck for home run number
forty eight, and.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
The Dodgers on the board it's forty two.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's shaw hel Toney hits.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Us first home run on the road trip.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Number forty eight.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Dodgers Radio Network, AM five seventy. You guys look like
you're in disagreement there on how history will treat a
fifty to fifty as opposed to was it forty nine
forty eight or forty eight forty nine? Yes, Seden, But yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Don't think forty eight is as good as fifty. I
don't think forty nine is as good as fifty fifty
as it's like a whole other level that you just reached.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But is it only because it sounds better, No, that
makes it better.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
It's like it's like hitting another tier where it's like
and you know, hey, you won one or you won ten,
what's the difference or kind of right next to each other.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Not really, they're totally different. So for us, well, Westbrook
didn't average ten assist he averaged nine point eight. Is
that somehow take away from nearly averaging a triple double
as opposed to averaging a triple double. Yeah, the word
nearly is massive.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
He almost did like like they always say, like my
dad always says, a close only counts in horseshoes and
hand grenades. You know, yeah, oh you almost did. Wow,
that was almost awesome. It's still awesome, just not as awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, it's because we don't take the time then to go, oh,
you average nine point eight assist. It's just easier to say, man,
I got a triple double, he had a great game,
or he averaged a triple double, he had a great season.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yes, Pauline, Yeah, I disagree with seating and that it's
it's more consumable. Like you said, it's easier to consume.
But if I said, it's one of the historic greatest
power speed seasons in baseball history from a guy who
shouldn't be doing that at his size, it's unfortunate that
forty nine to forty nine would diminish it because it's
the same. It's just a concocted number and a concocted stat.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, you had Ronald Acunya Junior the third who had
one of the greatest seasons in baseball history, but it
didn't have a magic ring to it. What did he have?
Seventy seventy two stolen bases and forty homeless.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Forty one homers, seventy three steals. I think the forty
one seventy three clock, Why isn't that a thing? Okay,
so it's diminished, then it isn't diminished. It's it's an
unbelievable accomplishment. It's just not what the other one is.
Hitting fifty home runs is a season, but it's not
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as good as hitting sixty home runs. That doesn't mean
fifty is is an awesome but it's just not as good.
There's not a magical ring to Akunya's season. The forty
one seventy three club. I mean, you're right in that
he if he went forty four, he might get more
recognition if he went forty forty then forty one seventy three,
(04:13):
But then I don't know what numbers do we really
care about anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
In baseball, orange sports in general.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Let's just say in general, like, what numbers do you
go that still has a magical ring? If somebody gets
to that point, you know in baseball, fifty fifty to
fifty would be you know, kind of the final frontier. Yes, pone.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
So with Otani, if he hits forty nine forty nine,
it's a drop off from fifty to fifty, but he
goes fifty one fifty one, it doesn't help at all.
So that one extra doesn't change it. It actually makes
it more awkward because we're still going to call it
the fifty to fifty club when he's in the fifty
one fifty.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Technically you're in the fifty to fifty club if you
hit fifty one steel fifty, but.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
He's in the back room of the fifty to fifty
club at the fifty one.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's one clubs Like it's like, would you rather have
forty nine million dollars or fifty million dollars? Forty Nine's
close enough, still good, Yeah, but right, I take the
fifty though, But I'm Richie's better. I'm rich either way, correct,
and shoe Heo. Tani in this scenario is rich either way.
He's either hitting forty nine, forty eight and forty nine, fifty,
fifty one and fifty two, whatever it is. But the
(05:20):
five in the beginning is better. Than the four in
the beginning. It's like basic mathematics.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It is there's a perceptions actually true, fifty is more
than forty nine.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Checking This is like one of those things that like
like if Paul said, the fact is teams win better
when they have piping on their uniforms is indisputable fact, Like, uh, okay,
I guess, but it's not really you know what I mean.
Just I don't know that we're really only focused on
the fifty to fifty because it's easy to say.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
God, I'm hoping Otani gets fifty to fifty. Now just
get fifty to fifty and then you know week and
wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Rather be hoping that he doesn't so you can well
for the topic use, I mean, it's just as good.
Forty nine is just as good as fifty. Everybody that
it's still a great season.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It'll feel like it'll feel The point I'm making is
it'll feel like a disappointment to people because he didn't
get to fifty to fifty, because they don't want to
go I think he had forty nine forty eight or
was a forty eight forty It makes it easier on
people to say, hey, he went fifty to fifty that
year is it?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Are?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So you're saying, are people are disappointed he's not going
to get there because man, no, it's harder for me
to say yes, not that fifty is better than forty nine.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yees yeah, okay, yeah, because when I say, Russell, you're
not going.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
To get into the Hall of Fame because you hit
forty nine and it's hard to say, or because you
hit fifty and that's a better number.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, no, those people actually do a deep dive into
your numbers before they elect you to the Hall of Fame,
whereas the casual sports fan probably wouldn't. People didn't even
I brought up Bronocunya Junior. You guys didn't even know
that he was in the forty one of such baseball
Nobody cares. You may not watch baseball, but you'll rememb
number fifty to fifty with Otani because of the numbers.
(07:03):
It's it's rounded off. If I say Russell, what Westbrook
Junior the third? If I try to say Russell Westbrook
Junior the third, it's a tough name. MVP season, then
you go, oh, yeah, you average a triple double. Hey,
if I bring up any of Lebron's MVP seasons, you
have no idea the numbers. Hey, how about Jordan's MVP?
(07:27):
You have no idea. The one MVP we know Russell
Westbrook Junior, the third he averaged a triple double. We
like it, so it's easy, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I think with Otani it's about being in a new
club because if he gets forty nine to forty nine,
he's still in the forty forty club. Oh he's in
the back room. So he's still in the same club.
Fifty to fifty it's a whole new club.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yes, let's say hypothetic. Hypothetically.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
JK.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Dobbins of the Chargers ran fornineteen hundred and ninety four
yards this year. We what we instead of we would
congratulate them and be semi historic because it's hasn't been
done in a long time. Two thousand, But he didn't
get two thousand. It's a bit similar like if you
ran for nineteen hundred and ninety six.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, okay, Tyreek Hill didn't get to two thousand yards
last year, but he came pretty close. Does anybody know
what the final tab was? No, because he didn't get
to two thousand. We love it. It's really easy for
us to remember. Yees see.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So if he ran for the people wouldn't remember two
thousand and one yards. I just remember two.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Thousand, he would. I don't know how many yards Terrell
Davis had. It was two thousand. Yeah, but nobody cares
about football numbers. Wait, so nobody cares about baseball numbers.
Nobody cares about football.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
People used to care about baseball numbers until steroids. Okay,
and at that time, we were doing the radio show saying,
why don't we care about football numbers?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Nobody cares about football namers. I can rattle off all
these baseball numbers. I know all of this stuff, but
nobody cares about football. Now we don't care. We don't care.
There's no, there's no, there's no I know. I'm the
one who said it originally, No I did. I did.
We don't care about numbers because unless there's nothing in
football where you go, wow, that's a magical season. I
(09:16):
mean two thousand yards, Yes, that would be if a
receiver gets to two thousand yards even when somebody broke up.
You know Tom Brady's single season touchdown mark? I mean,
did Peyton do that?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
How many is what's the record. I don't think anybody cares.
But if somebody throws sixty touchdown passes, we'll remember that.
If a receiver gets to two thousand yards, we'll remember that.
I'm just saying I think we like convenient numbers.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Yes, Marvin, I think the magical number of football was
two thousand yards for a running back. Because, off the
top of my head, I can name Chris Johnson, Jamal Lewis,
O J. Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson. That's just off
the top of my head. That's the only number in football.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Kind of a brag by you there, what's that? I
thought that was kind of a brag. I would just
be ahead and flex off the top of my head.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
No flex zone over here.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sorry guys. By the way, Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I do have the list. It's Eric Dickerson, Adrian Peterson,
Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, Derrick Henry, Terrell Davis, Chris Johnson,
and O. J. Simpson. Want to hear the guy who's
never going to get his due for this, because no
one's going to go to bat for this guy. OJ
Simpson should be considered the single season rushing king. He
had two thousand and three yards in a fourteen game season. Yeah,
(10:34):
everyone else had sixteen chances to get two thousand. He
had fourteen chances. He rushed for one hundred and forty
three yards a game. No one else ran for over
one hundred and thirty two yards a game. He's clearly
the single season rushing king. But because no one's gonna
go to bat for OJ first of all historically, Yeah,
but uh, it's you know, the season has been expanded.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But did Jim Brown? Did they play twelve games? Right?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Jim Brown? Brown rushed for like eighteen sixty three or
cracked eighteen sixty three are on the screws bop nineteen
sixty three in twelve games. I have that as fourteen games.
Oh okay, Well, then he started his career, Jim Brown.
He started with twelve games I think as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
But OJ Simpson has the record, Okay, yards per game.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
In a season. Well, congratulations, Jeeves. Yes, Tom Pauli said
it with his JK.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Dobbins theoretical if he's got under two thousand yards, he
used the word semi historic, and that's what it is.
Were you a great season? But if you don't hit
those magic numbers that are easy to abbreviate and digest.
It just becomes a semi historic accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Thank you, Tom Well. All right, Pole question for hour
two is going to be but Steve Smith, senior NFL
Network former Carolina Panther, five time Pro Bowl wide receiver
joins us in about ten minutes. Kirk Cousins joinses in
an hour from now. Just got word from Saquon Barkley's
camp next Tuesday. Wait a minute, what happens if the
(12:00):
Eagles don't win in New Orleans? So he's got to
join us on Tuesday, win or lose?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
You know, I would I would expect.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, who's taking the Eagles in New Orleans this weekend?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Oh? I, I think we all have to take it
right if if.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Barkley's uh health and well being, guest, I'm going to
take the.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Eagles, Especially the way the last game ended, They've got
to take it out on somebody, and the way that
game played out at the end, I think they're going
to be a very angry bunch of birds going to
the Big easy.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Okay, thank you, Tod Chiefs bring back Kareem Hunt and
it looks like Justin Fields gets the start again for Pittsburgh.
Did Mike Tomlin talk about how he came up with
naming Justin Fields as his starter? He had a press
conference yesterday. I know food was involved with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
There's certain things that go on among teams that I
don't talk about. Whether it gets out or how it
gets out is unimportant to me, and I'm not overly
guarded against it. But it's just certain things as a
leader that I talked to the collective about that I
have zero intentions of sharing with the larger public because
it's about our collective and how we come together and
how we appreciate and support one another. And you know,
(13:24):
I can't give you all the ingredients of the hot dog.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You might not like it. Coach, who's going to be
your starting quarterback?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
One question like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Just all we want to know. I don't need the
ingredients of a hot dog. We don't need to see
how the sausage is made. Just tell me who your
quarterback is. That's all long winded way of saying none
of your business there.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yes, by the way, I just googled ingredients and a
hot dog do not look at that. Thank you, just
move out your life.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Just enjoy them. You enjoy them, Yeah, just enjoy You
may not like the ingredients of Justin Fields, just enjoy
him as he's out there. I think Steve Smith Senior
is saying he said this a couple of weeks ago
about Russell Wilson. I think the analogy is he's like
the dad who went out to get cigarettes and never
(14:19):
came back. That Russ isn't coming back. So we'll talk
to Steve Smith, he'll join us.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I mean, he's just got a caf sprain. He didn't
abandon this.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Family, no, no, yeah. And also, sources close to me
tell me this could be the anniversary of one of
the more stranger things that happen on this program. Okay,
I think this might be the day. But I'm going
to have to get some of my best people on
(14:48):
this obviously, not the people in front of me, but
the people behind the scenes can help me with this
anniversary of sorts. All right, we'll take a break, talk
some football, try to get some phone calls in here
as well. Back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (16:16):
Before we get to our next guest, he is one
of four wide receivers in the last fifty years to
have the triple Crown. Now that's he did it in
two thousand and five. That means he led the NFL
in catches, yards and touchdowns. So before we get to
Steve Smith Senior, can you name the other ones? I'm
(16:38):
gonna throw out. So there's four other guys who have
won the Triple Crown of receiving in the last fifty years.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
There's four, including Steve Smith's.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh okay, so life to name three?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So if I say Randy Moss, he did not. If
I say Lance Alworth.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Yes, nineteen sixty six, so that's beyond the scope. Oh okay,
the first one was it in our list? Here is
nineteen ninety cow uh uh Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice is okay,
all right, I've heard of him. The other one was
within the past four years, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh yeah, that's right. We did mention that.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
And then the other one. Here's the big hints. This
guy would be in the Hall of Fame except for
a neck injury. Sterling Sharp, Sterling Sharp is correct?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Sterling sure make way for Steve Smith's senior NFL network analysts.
That's a pretty good company there, Steve. What do you
remember about that two thousand and five season.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Well, well, first, good morning, Uh, it was a long
time ago. I think I had hair back then, So
that's that's one of the biggest things I remember.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
But do you help Cam? That was Cam's rookie year,
wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, sir, No, Cam was uh I think in middle
school at that.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, No, this was Jake de Low. Okay, but you know,
you look at that. Why haven't we had more receivers
win the triple Crown?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I mean, it's it's a tough it's a tough deal
to do, to leak in all the categories, it's very rare.
I'm not gonna sit here into my own horn, but
you know, everything has to lie. You got to have
the right combination of teams playing the right opponents. Offense
got to be flowing, good pass game, good run game.
(18:33):
You know, kind of just structurally things have to fall
in place.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I had a couple of topics to get to. Two
of going on the IR as opposed to concussion protocol.
What does that mean to you when you see him
go on the IR so he's gone for at least
four weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It gives an opportunity where you could take your time
and figure out what you need to do, sort out
some kind of plan. Also, like the fact that on
those four weeks, it's not like he has to play,
so that means he gets to take his time to
talk to his doctors. You know. Going through decision making
like this, it's an emotional roller coaster. There's going to
(19:12):
be some highs, are going to be most likely more lows,
and a lot of conversations that he needs to have
and wrestle with and grieve through and process. And I
believe it at least gives him the starting point not
to be pressured in making any kind of decision tomorrow,
because the league is about decisions and doing things sometimes
(19:32):
based off perspective, not based off reality. Sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, just concerned me that it was four weeks as
opposed to week by week that And I don't know
if you agree. If you get a concussion, you're more
susceptible to getting another concussion.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think everybody's different. I've played with some guys who's
had multiple concussions. I played with guys who like what
for myself, I've only had one concussion in my career. However,
it took me about three weeks to really just come
out of it. It was a pretty bad concussion. It
was an accident. I didn't get a concussion tackled. I
(20:15):
got a concussion. Actually I was getting up and someone
I didn't know and someone at the back of my head.
I hit their knee Like they didn't hit me. I
hit them obviously because I don't really have even though
my kids believe it, I don't have eyes behind the
back of my head. And I hit it right there
in the sweet spot, and they knew something was wrong
(20:37):
because I was in a huddle. We said break and
they said. Everybody broke out of the huddle, but me,
I was still there. So you know, everybody's different. So,
I mean, I played sixteen years one concussion. There's guys
who've played less than that and had multiple concussions. You know,
everybody's built differently, so to be able to say that
(20:58):
we know how everyone handles it, and all of these
armchair doctors who have their personal opinion, I think, you know,
I know where in this age where everybody's opinion matters.
So I'm throwing mine out there, and I think we
all should sit back and allow to it to make
his own decision on his career and allow him fit
(21:19):
to deal with what he wants to deal with, versus
us giving our opinion on something that unfortunately, let's be honest,
if you're not our circus, not our monkey, so why
do we have to Why are we giving our input
on something that really we don't have a hand in it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We're talking to Steve Smith, Senior, former NFL Pro Bowl
wide receiver working for the NFL Network. If you were
a player on the Carolina Panthers and they made the
decision to bench Bryce Young, how would you react?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, he's got to roll with the next guy.
People don't want to hear that, but that's how it is.
If Bryce got hurt, we'll be saying the same thing.
Who's the next guy up? Next man? Is there for
whatever reason, we feel like that this situation is now
all of a sudden that Bryce is done. I'm hearing
everybody talk about he should be done. Trade him. I
(22:10):
think the fact that they sat him down, I think
that's a good thing. And the reason why I believe
that's a good thing is because this. If you see
a young man sitting there and you throw him in
a swimming pool and you see he's drowning a little bit,
you don't remove him from the swimming pool and throw
him in the ocean and say, okay, with the bigger tides,
he should be okay because he was drafted first overall,
(22:33):
should he should be fine? Or hey, get rid of him?
How about do what they're doing is allow him to
sit back, evaluate and then maybe train them and gradually
put them back in there when he can also learn
the game. He was a great processor in college, that's
what got him drafted. That doesn't mean what you did
(22:57):
in college you're gonna do that in the NFL, because
that's the that's the level up that's called advancing. That's
why his professionals and amateurs are collegiate. I know NIL
makes people believe they're professionals, but guess what, there are
eighty wide receivers next year and that are trying to
(23:19):
come out. In next year's draft, there were I believe
twenty seven wide receivers drafted. I'm no mathematician, but guess what,
not everybody's gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm fine with them benching him, and even using the
word benching sounds rough. I think they're just replacing him,
putting Andydalton in there, and it's hard for him. You
get into bad habits and it feels like he's a
little you know, he wants to make a quick decision.
He doesn't let a play kind of unfold. I mean,
(23:53):
there's a there's a lot of bad things that can happen,
and I think sitting down for a little bit, maybe
he doesn't play for them, but I would give I
hope he gets another chance this season.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I agree. I think he's I don't know, giving him
another chance this season only because if Andy Dalton does
well and you've brought him in to help him, what
if having a successful season or seeing someone else do
it not every Some people learn differently visual aids. Some
people learn by example. Some people learn by watching other
(24:29):
people do it. So sitting him down and letting him
ride out the season and learning. And now he doesn't
have the pressure on him, maybe he'll learn some things,
maybe he'll see the game from a different perspective. And
maybe you won't, but I'm pretty sure it will because
because when you think about it, this is probably the
first time he's looked at the game from this position,
(24:51):
which is the sideline with no injury. That's not a
bad thing. Adversity is about dealing with dealing with some
things that you don't see. And that's what makes football
players athletes so much. So much we're intriguing because we
can take a negative and turnament turn it into a positive.
If we're gonna bitch and say he's he bryce young,
(25:15):
can never recover. Does that mean some of these coaches
who have been giving a head coaching job maybe too
early or or a position too early in their career,
does that mean that they never should get a job there?
You know this answer, No, that doesn't happen, So why
does it happen with players? But yet we could give
(25:36):
a guy a job in the NFL or NBA or
too early, be terrible, god awful, and then a couple
of months later he's at another place worse, and then
it takes them three or four times to realize maybe
he's just a coordinator, not a head coach. That's just me.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Would you stick with Justin Fields in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, yeah, I don't know why that. Yes, I would
stick with Justin Phils. He's he's winning games for you.
Why why change it because you have a guy that
you brought in as a vetter. This isn't about who's
the best trend or personality. This is about who can
(26:21):
do the best job to help you win.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I'm going to make sure I got the quote correct
that you said Russell Wilson was kind of like the
guy who goes out for cigarettes and never never comes back.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I said, just I said, Russell Wilson's game that we
known him to be in Seattle. Yeah, went out for
cigarettes and has not come back. He was he there
in Denver? Was he a Russell Wilson scrambling around and
(26:56):
and and being Russell Dazzel in Denver?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is he still out for cigarettes in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Bro out for cigarettes? Man? He ain't there?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Where did it go?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Steve?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Where did it go?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I don't know. That's why when you go out for
cigarettes get their new ports, Bro, they'll never come back.
So that's just the whole point.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So you would stick with Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, definitely, you know that answer.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, Well, sometimes they just kind of.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Ask, I know you do. You're great at that. Man.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You got a backdrop here. It looks like you're joining
us from heaven.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty dreary here in Carolina.
It's raining, So you know what, I want to be
sunshine and rainbows and smiles and be happy. Man. You know,
you know I played with this attitude and this persona man,
and sometimes you just gotta wake up and say, you
know what, it's good to be allied. Bro. There's some
people that didn't wake up. There's some people that's going
(27:57):
through some worse circumstances. I get. I get to talk
about football, a game that I love playing. I get
to you know, I do a little golf sometimes here
and there and talk on my podcast eighty nine. So look,
I'm just hanging out man and enjoying life and loving life. Bro.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
But you played with a chip on your shoulder. Can
you get rid of the chip on your shoulder after
you're done playing?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Absolutely? You know what it's called is called golf, It's
called iron out. I sit there and uh play play
golf and look at it and and and uh I
get on the course, I'm feeling good, look fresh, look dapper,
and get out there. First first hole, Uh mat I'll
get a par, may even get a birdie. Second hole.
I'm over here looking for my ball out in the woods.
(28:40):
What you're gonna do? Get mad? You just you just
got to take it for what it is, man. And
so that's what I'm trying to do and enjoin it.
I'm forty five years old. Uh hell, I got I
gotta slow down and enjoy life at some point before
life is no more.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes, yes, yeah, we all do. But we tell us,
tell ourselves that, but that doesn't mean we do it.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, you just gotta hang out with me a little
bit more and see you see, you'll see the change
if you don't believe it. Yeah, I've heard worse from
worse and better people, so I'll be okay, better people
than me, Yeah, like my wife. Yeah it's fair. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's a veteran move by you. You don't have any
more beefs with players, Like if you see a player
is there still a beef with somebody that you played against.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No, not really, I saw I've running the guys all
the time.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well Terrell Buckley, if you saw Terrell Buckley.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I think we're cool unless he has a problem
with me. I don't have a problem with him.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Wait, didn't you have the super Bowl moment? Didn't you
have a he's spit on you?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, but I can't sit around it. I can't sit around.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Him though, Steve, Like.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
To be honest, there, I don't even know where I
would see him. He and I would run into each other.
But if we did, Hey, what's how you doing? Just
fan looking man in the eye and keep it moving, bro,
I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, just in case, you know, you may see him
at a super Bowl or something.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
If if that is the case, I'm gonna I don't
have a really good I don't really have time for that. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, thanks for joining us as always and uh appreciation. Yeah,
enjoy your golf game, Oh will I can't today is raining? Yeah?
My best of the wife too? Who's better than me?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Should be?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Should be? Not always though always okay, of course always
she was born. Thank you, Steve, No problem both, that's
Steve Smith, senior NFL Network analyst. Remember the three NFC
champion Panthers. We booked him before the Super Bowl, like
(31:14):
five days before the Super Bowl and said, hey, when
you win, come on and join us. And they lost.
But he lived up to his word joined us on
the program. He played with Like you talk about somebody
who played with attitude, Steve played with attitude. He was.
This is one of those where you go pound for
(31:35):
pound in boxing, you would recognize Steve Smith as a
pound for pound guy, like one of the best, because
he was. He was not going to be denied, not
at all. All Right, We're going to take a break.
We have NFL DOUR rankings, so it's either power or Dour. Also,
(31:56):
we celebrate an anniversary eleven years ago on this show,
and I'm just here to talk about qualcomm.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh my god, it is uncomfortable even eleven years later.
Matt Harvey then with the Mets, so here he is
a young star in New York and looking at Tommy
John surgery he had talked about that the day before.
(32:42):
We have him on the day after, and he just
wants to talk about Qualcomm and he didn't understand the
kind of the quid pro quo is, I'll have you on,
you can get your sponsorship plug, but I get to
ask you some questions. It happens all the time on
the show. And we start out, I think it's okay,
(33:02):
but he's sort of dancing with me a little bit.
He doesn't want to say too much about his shoulder
and surgery or Tommy John surgery, whatever it was, And
all of a sudden, well, this is how it sounded.
And it doesn't get any easier for me to listen
to this or look at it. When you hear Tommy
(33:24):
John surgery, what does that mean to you as a picture?
Speaker 11 (33:30):
You know? I mean, it's, uh, it's something that obviously
everybody you know knows about. It's it's so common, but
you know, it's it's something you never you never know.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And is it scary when you hear that that you
know that possibility of you're deciding not to do it?
How scary is it?
Speaker 11 (33:49):
You know? It's, uh, it's it's it's kind of where
I mean every picture, can you can you know, relate
to to what's going on? But you know, I think
I didn't. I did all those answers yesterday and and
you know, maybe at the appropriate time we can we
can talk a little bit more about that. But obviously, uh,
(34:10):
you know, today is about call Comb.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You don't want to talk about your you know, this
whole rehab and Tommy John, well, I will, I mean, I.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
We can set up another call if you'd like too
about that subject. But uh, you know, today obviously today
we're honoring and supporting call Com.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, okay, I'll let you get your pitch and uh
tell us about Qualcomm. Uh then Matt, Well.
Speaker 11 (34:35):
You know obviously we uh you know, average average person
uses their phone, you know, over a hundred, one hundred
times per day, and you know sometimes.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
This went on for another ninety seconds. You can leave
it underneath me, Marvin, have a way to connect and
like I really cared about Qualcomm. We didn't even know
what Qualcomm was.
Speaker 11 (35:02):
Baseball is you know obviously huge, and stadiums are sold
out everywhere and people.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Are When he says, hey, we could talk about this
at another time, I my head pops up and I
stare right at Fritzy La fantastic. How did we get
into this?
Speaker 11 (35:20):
Pretty much everybody tweeting and using face.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But you know, Todd had no idea bring bring Matt
Harvey up again. And I see just going.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
On Future fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, is unlimited and ordering.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Food, participating in game.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Promotions here, you know, and support, yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:39):
You know, information about the game. You know that way
you don't have to buy a booklet of of.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
All the rock don't want a booklet obviously, information, right, Yeah,
So he just kept going, and then I knew the
interview was over. You can lower it now, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Your head snaps up, and he says, well, I mean,
I'm happy to set up another an interview at another
time where we can talk about that. Oh my god,
And your head snaps up and you look right over it.
I looked at Todd's so funny.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And all I know is that when that interview ended,
we heard from somebody, a PR person or an agent,
said hey, we'll set up something. Sorry about that. He
nobody told him what he's supposed to do. You can
get your plug for Qualcomm. I want to talk to
you about Tommy John surgery. And I knew He wasn't
(36:27):
a good interview, but he became kind of an interesting
interview because a legendary interview. By the way he answered
the question.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Honored Qualcomb very well.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Did his credit. I will cover. I will say that
that's what he was doing, and he is. He did
a great job with that. Oh it's painful, so painful,
yes to But.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
When you looked at me like that, I really hope
to this day they didn't think for second I had
some kind of agreement with them. Yeah, just we'll just
talk about qualkm you't have to ask him any questions
about baseball, the Mets or surgery.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I know that it was insane, No, I know, you
would you assume that they know, like Kyler Murray did this.
Kyler Murray got on and he didn't say anything, and
then I said, well, tell me about gatorade. And then
he told me about gatorade and then that was it.
He didn't want to answer anything.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Please tell us an advance, you know, sometimes a certain
topic that are up the limits. And then we decided
as a group, then is it worth having that person
on if we can't ask AB or C.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I wouldn't have had either on. But they certainly gave
us great content. That Seatan's Kyler Murray precision. That's basically
what I was getting out of him.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
It was essentially you were interviewing Beavis and butt Head.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
So the fallout from that, like you said, there was
a flurry of emails and apologies and incredulous responses from
PR people over the next several hours. It was decided
that Matt Harvey would call back in the next day.
They reached out, got a hold of Matt that evening,
and the next day he reappeared on our show and
said he was going through a lot, he didn't know
(37:57):
what to talk about, whatnot, and it went pretty well
the next day.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
How could he possibly think correct?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yes, how could he possibly think that we were here
just to talk about like, you know what?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
You know what I've been really thinking about a lot
is Qualcomm? Who can we get on? Hey, Matt Harvey
would be the guy to have on. Uh hey, do
you want to talk to him about his elbow?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
No, no, I'm want to talk about Qualcomm. Are you
kidding me? Let's talk about that device? How it helps you?
Oh my god, I just it was one of those
where you go, wait, he's blowing me off talking about
his his injury. I mean I already answered all those
questions yesterday. Yesterday. You are in New York, you're a
(38:42):
star of the Mets, and you don't know how to
do an interview where you get to get your plug
in and answer four questions and then that's it. Oh
my god, he just is he still talking? Marvin?
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Actually he just stopped me.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
He did, and I let him get his plug. He
that's one of the longer plugs ever, the second in
his It did just keeps going on it and he
had no sensible awareness there. He's like, and I could
have said, and I swear to god, I almost did this, Matt,
tell me more about qualcomm because I like, I was
(39:21):
going to make a total farce out of this.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Is sure a website we can go?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah? Yes, Now he did call in yes the day
after that, and then we kind of moved it. I
didn't want to have Matt Harvey on again.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
That that was even a little bit more awkward. Uh,
going back and forth with the PR people that evening.
We agreed upon it, and then you go, nah, you said, nah.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I didn't want him. I didn't want him on. I
had no interest, but then the Dan answer, They're always
like no, no, no, no, we should have mo on,
you know.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
So crushed nationally as bad as it was, it was
like he really and rightfully so he was like ripped
across the nation everywhere, headline everywhere.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
But I don't know who it was. Somebody was interviewing
him after me, and uh, like they didn't bring it
up that this just happened, but it just somebody else.
Another radio show had him on and treated it like
it was, Hey, Matt, how are you? How's the Tommy
John surgery? And he's answering these questions you'd never know that,
(40:24):
you know. Minutes earlier, he says, I'm only here to
talk about qualcomm He's he's got legendary status with this
show and he can have that provided he never comes
on the show again. Yeah, although Paula goes no, we
would have him back, I go no, one one man, Okay,
why didn't you guys book Matt Harvey for today?
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Well I thought about booking him when his career ended,
I think three years ago, but it didn't go over
well in the room.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Because well, no, but we're talking about today. If you
would have him on again, then you would have him
on today. Things haven't gone well for Matt Harvey. No,
they haven't the last two to five years. Yes, two
to five is a funny line. By way, Wow, he'd.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Prefer to talk about Qualcom if I'm sure I believe.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
He would, and you know his surgery.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I think things have not gone well for Matt. Okay,
are you what analyst next? Which actually makes the Qualcomm interview?
It all makes a lot more sense to know what
he was doing while he was with the Mets, and
then to be.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
That much of an idiot. You can google it. Get
it now, you can google it. I forgot about Kyler
Murray's Kirk Cousins on loan from the Falcons coming up,
(41:49):
or of your phone calls as well. What a day?
What a day,
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