The Best of the Week on The Dan Patrick Show

Hall of Fame NFL QB Steve Young joins the show to weigh in on Week 2 of the NFL season. Atlanta Falcons QB Kirk Cousins joins the show to talk about their unbelievable comeback win against the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night. Dan sat down with Los Angeles Dodgers Manager Dave Roberts before Shohei Ohtani’s historic game and did not close the door on the possibility of Shohei pitching in the postseason. And actor Will Ferrell drops by to crack some jokes and provide some laughs to close out the week.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Three times Super Bowl Champ, Super Bowl MVP Hall of
Famer Steve Young back on the program. What was it
like to play behind a bad offensive line?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Life is too short? Dan? Like, in football, like you
need a lot of help to be a great quarterback
or even a good quarterback or competent. You need help,
and you need it from the owner down and especially
in today's game. And if you're behind a bad offensive line,
you can't be yourself. You can't show who you are.

(00:36):
You can scrape it through. I always said, no matter
how bad it is, if you're if you're gonna be
really good, you're gonna figure out a way to send
up a flare. You know, You'll like you'll send up
some smoke signals that tells people I can still play.
I promise. I just I can't show you right now.
But I'm I you know, and I'm and I watch
for those smoke signals for people, you know, guys that

(00:57):
are on terrible teams, like Daniel Joe. I mean, like
you watch guys like no, they can't they like Russell
Wilson went to Denver. I'm like, wait, where's the smoke signal,
tell me you know what you're doing, Tell me no,
you're what's going on? I was like, no, I got
nothing for you, bro, And so I just I think
behind a bad line it there's nothing good that can
not much good that can happen. But you can let
me know that you can. You're still you're still competing,

(01:21):
You're still you still can be good. You just got
to need more help.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, but I don't know what to make of Bryce Young.
It gets not fair to him, but I don't know
if he can play.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it's the classic conundrum, right, because you get into it,
you know your high draft pick, you come out of it,
you know all the success in college. You feel like
you're you should you should be really good, and you
don't get any help, and now you don't know and
then you then you lose your job and you bounce
around the league, and then some guy's number get never
really get straightened up. And that's the that's the somewhat

(01:51):
the curse of being the number one pick. But if
he was again, do you think he's sent you some
smoke signals, He's put up some flares that he can
be like and get it right? I can take care
of you. I'm going to say, I'm not sure that
he has. And that's what you have to wonder about.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
When did you learn that there was only so much
you could do on a play before you kind of
have to take the loss on that play, whether you know,
because in college you could improvise, extend a play. You
were more athletic. But you get to the pros and
eventually you have to learn how to go Nope, not
going to happen on this play.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well again, the prototypes have changed, Dan, I was the
oddity back in the day. Now you know I would
be prototype now. And so the challenge that you just
asked is that is the question of every quarterback, justin
Fields last year, and I talked to him, all the guys,
Patrick Mahomes. Every week's got to figure out when do

(02:50):
I you know, I'm superman, I can't you call the play.
I'll get the most out of it. And then I
got another play for you, and then maybe another one
at at the tail end when I can throw it
down the field for eighty yards on the you know,
on the run, when do I When do I quit?
What does Josh Allen say? Okay, I know they asked
me to ask too much of me. I'm superman every week.
When when is too much? And that is that is

(03:14):
the eighty you know, sixty million dollar question now at
quarterback and the guys that have figured out and I
think Patrick has done that. Patrick went back to school
in two thousand and you read it, you know, said
to him, Hey, Patrick, what you really need to do
is focus on the play that's called in the huddle,
get every inch of that, and then go do something
else and then throw it away. And so that discipline

(03:35):
that Patrick put into his game I think made him
the best in the in the league. And there's others
that had the capability of being the best in the
league that haven't figured out that discipline. And you know
that's when people say why not, how so obvious? Well,
you know that's the that's the challenge of the toughest
job in sports is to try to figure out when

(03:56):
and how that that that that story ends. It's easier
for guys like Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, you know, Tom Brady.
They don't have all the options and so they can
be more disciplined much quickly, much more quickly.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But so you rush for four thousand yards. How much
of that was by design when you were playing None,
none of it.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
But but but yet that was the that's where you
get capitulation from defenses. That's where in today's game especially,
you have to You saw Caleb at the end of
the game, Yesterdy, you saw cg at the end of
the game. It's like the NBA. You know, you play around,
play on three and a half quarters, and all of
a sudden, there's the finishers, the guys that can throw
it all over the field, big strong, you know, athletic guys,

(04:40):
and then they have to get on the horse. They
have to go out and take those free yards. They're
out there and you're gonna If you're not gonna take him,
it's just going to be making it that much more hard.
That's what Patrick Mahomes didn't play well, but he made
it from some key first down runs, some things that
really moved the chains made the difference and those that's
out there. And if you can't do it, you really
can't drive in today's game. But if you don't, uh,

(05:06):
if you're not capable of of getting like the game
has changed so much that they're free yards out there
for quarterbacks. You got to go get him like college
used to be. And but yet you have to be
in college. Dan, there's there's runners who can throw, and
there's a lot of them in the pros. You got
to be a thrower. You got to be a you know,
sophisticated pass for the football. Who can run? And that's

(05:28):
the challenge of today's game is who could Everyone can run.
Most of the guys that are being drafted today high uh,
they're all big, strong guys that can run. But can
you become a sophisticated passer of the Football.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Hall of Famer Steve Young, Joni is you didn't slide though.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I always thought sliding was more dangerous and and and
the only thing with Josh Allen Bevans and Josh Allen's
too crazy. He's gotta gotta call him down. He's gonna
get hurt. I agree. There's some things he does at
the end, the last move of when the journey is over.
You know there he's a famously saying you got to
know when the journey's over. And Josh he extends that

(06:05):
little bit that puts himself at risk. I always felt
the safest on the field out of the pocket on
the run, make it my own way. And then how
to get down to the ground, how to make sure
that you get down there safely? Sliding get you get
less yards and you get pounded in the face Like
I'm not doing that. Like you can always find a
safe way to the ground if you want to. And

(06:26):
I the most dangerous place in the field for quarterback
is stand in the pocket trying to deliver. Now, that
is the job. That's what I tried to prove. The
people did for eighteen years that I'm not a scrambler.
I am an efficient, sophisticated pass of the football. And
because I could run around, they just could they you know,
they wouldn't capitulate. I don't know who they are, but

(06:47):
they wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm going to preface this by saying, I know this
might be difficult for you to answer, but you did
go through concussions. Can you put yourself into his situation
at his age where you've had multiple concussions and now
you have to look at a bigger picture.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I can't put myself. Oddly, I can't put myself into
a spot because what I'm witnessing. And again, you know,
the brain is the last frontier of medical science. You
go to in the world's greatest neurologist and ask them
how you know should I play? Should not play? They
they can't look inside, and all is that. It's kind
of all symptomatic. And how do you feel what we witnessed?

(07:26):
What is the reaction? How how devastating were the hits?
I always had what I would call grade one where
I felt a little diusy. The next day I woke
up and I wanted to sleep a little bit more
than I was fine. So I never had what what
you witnessed on the field the other day with Tua,
where you know you've got the fencers posed and you're
definitely knocked out, and it happens multiple times, and and

(07:48):
you know people, you know, people would come to me
through the years, Hey Steve, you you've had concussions. What
you know? I can't remember my wife's name. I can't
remember where I parked my car. I can't sleep now
for three weeks. Are now with five months? You know,
I'm sitting in the basement. I'm like, bro, I don't
know what to tell you. I never that was never me,
and so I don't know how to help you. I

(08:09):
can tell you that if that happened to me where
you're in these dramatic situations on the field, where you
have these obviously severe concussions. Now that I've lived a
long time, I would scream in into the you know,
I would screen back, you know, be super careful. It
doesn't mean. Look. The problem is you can go to

(08:30):
all neurologists and they'll say, well I would if I
were you, or it does seem like the best idea,
and nobody's gonna say go play because that's dangerous. And
two is now in a place where it's double dangerous
because not only is his health but everyone on the
street's gonna be I mean, you know, old women will
walk up tillm and grab his cheek. Please don't play anymore,

(08:52):
Please don't do it. Please for you, you know all we
just can't watch it anymore. So there's that social pressure
as well, so as you try to make it a
great decision, that is going to be on them, and
especially a young age when you feel like you've got
your whole career in front of you, very very difficult.
But what you're witnessing seems to be pretty severe concussions.
And I'm you know, I'm not an expert. But even
the experts will say me, that just seems they're loaded

(09:16):
on on top of each other. That just it feels
super heavy and something he should be super careful about.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
What would were you more susceptible to concussions after having now.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
There are I always believe that there were people, like
you know, injury prone people where their bodies just can't
hold up to the riggor It was nothing against them,
they just their bodies just kind of betrayed them. I
do feel that about heads injuries as well. It seemed
like some guys can just get bounced around and never
have any issues, and some guys just seem to be
susceptible to them. So I think there is that genetic

(09:50):
part of it that's possible. I don't know. It's probably
in the middle, I guess, but it does. Yeah, but
it's hard to say. The hits are the hits, and
and it's super dangerous, it's and and there is a
long life ahead of people. And when you're twenty five
or trying to make decisions about your career, and it's
the thing you're best at, Dan, when you're world famous

(10:13):
for a skill that you have that's part genetically given
and part that you've you know, kind of earned, and
now you have to leave it and the next day
you're not good at anything else. It's not nobody wants
to be there. Super difficult to make that kind of
a decision.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well there's all this money though, too, Steve, we're talking.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, but I mean again, yes, that and I'll never
diminish it, especially today. It's amazing, no question. But again, emotionally,
where do you live at the core of yourself? You
want to do things that you're you're great at, and
if you're great at something, you want to keep doing
it because the next day, again, if I was really
honest with myself, I'm not good at anything else. It

(10:53):
certainly not great at anything else, And so your life
changes so dramatically. Always said it was like falling off
a cliff. You're just a bag of broken bones at
the bottom when you do quit the thing that you're
great at, because the humility that comes with it is brutal,
and nobody people say why can't you quit? Why can't
you You know, that's you know, give it up. It's

(11:15):
like you give up the thing that you're best at,
you know, forever. It's tough, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Is it real? The West Coast team going east coast
to play that one o'clock game. We saw the Niners
against the Vikings, Like, do you remember how real that was?
When you played?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was always something. It was always hard to play
ten am your time when you went across the country.
I actually waited the Central Games worse because for whatever reason,
noon felt, you know, I know, still ten am my time.
Like I get it, Dad, I get the math. But somehow,

(11:54):
somehow noone hit me wrong, hit me in a different way.
So you're playing. You got a noon kickoff in the
super Dome in front of eighty thousand crazy people screaming.
You can't hear anything. It's like it's noon. It's like
it's too early for this. I need a couple more
hours to get ready for this. But there's there's something
to it, and it's always harder to go west to east.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
We know that our audience watching on Peacock wants to
know if you're in an suv or a minivan. Let's
let's guess not no hold on, hold on Todd suv
or minivan. For Steve, a minivan would be bad for
the brand. But we'll get to that. At the moment time,
I think he's running errands in a minivan. Minivan?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
All right, seating, I think it's a SUV eight Marvin,
he's in a gmc gmc wow, PAULI.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, three row suv Steve Young, No minivan.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, there's no minivan in your life. That's an SUV.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You just do not know me.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I roll in the sweetest Toyota swagger wagon you've ever seen.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Come on, dang, it's a swagger wagon.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You go to I go something. People in the neighbor
the sweet eighteen cup holders. I got outlets, I can,
I can outlet, I can people get in and out
of this car. I got five ways in and out.
This is amazing this thing.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Wait, Paulie, would you check and see if it's officially
called the swagger wagon.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
I'm on the Toyota website. I don't see that model.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Did you create the swagger wagon?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
If you don't, If you're gonna roll in the van,
you better make it swagger because that's that's how.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't think it's thumping in there with you driving
your daughters. Have it thumping in there? Maybe with the music.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, you know what I've been thumping in there for years.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Don't even damn yes, Paulie. I'm on the Toyota website.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
There's an article from twenty twenty one, the Toyda Sienna
driving the swagger Wagon into twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I started it. I started it. Whoa, I represent toilet,
I started the swagger wagon. It's it's they do they
say it? They're paully? Do they tell the Steve Young
started this?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
But I could feel that it's about you.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, you just don't get enough credit in your life innovation.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I've been innovated my whole life.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I threw it. You were Michael Vick before Michael Vick.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, screw this. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it.
I got nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, you got Montana's shadow. I mean you got you
had everything there, Steve. And it's just not fair. Life
has not been fair to you.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It has been a rough right from the means, from
getting out of the main streets of Greenwich, Connecticut, all
the way to today. It is tough.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Thoughts and prayers, man, thoughts and prayers. You could have
probably rushed for eight thousand yards in the NFL, like
if you're playing today.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Uh yeah, today today's get Look, we don't want to
you guys are sick of me telling you this. But
but when they when they made all the changes for
safety and the defense, so they couldn't launch anymore. You
see it yesterday when they're if you get somebody hard,
they throw a flag, you cannot launch in any way.
It opened up all of the space in the field
and made pro football college football. You used to have

(15:04):
to go make space. That's why Derek Henry was famous
for a little while because in the old days in
twenty seventeen, sixteen fifteen, you had to go make space.
Now that space is made for you and now you
just have to go fill it up. And so all
the innovative minds like Sean McVay and Kyle Shannan and
Andy Reid that his age sixty seven years old, is
dominating because he keeps reinventing himself and they're innovative. Every

(15:27):
week they go fill the space they don't have. They
don't line up in the eye and pound you anymore.
It's all getting the ball out in space, and it's
amazing to watch. So and you know Tom Brady at
the end of his career is he says Tom, how's
it compared to the old days? He goes completely different,
Like the middle of the field is unpatrolled, the flats
are always open and no one can hit me. And

(15:48):
so in that way, even for Tom, it was significantly different.
Let alone the prototypes of today that can go get
all those yards and kind of just dominate. I would look, Dan,
you've heard me say this. I'm not jealous, that's that's
a weird word. But do I like watch the game
today and go, holy, this is my like what this

(16:08):
is what I would dream of and that everyone say
you're the You're the man. This is exactly what NFL.
You know, the NFL is all about, as you like,
I would have dreamed to have someone say that to
me back in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Good to talk to you. Maybe go through your scrap
book today, feel a little bit better about yourself. Maybe
just drive around.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I'm over, I'm over. Look, let's be honest. I know
the swaggen wagon is mine. I got that as but
I don't get crafts. Okay, I don't need credit. I
don't need the credit. I don't need to go feel
better abound. I feel totally fine about you know, innovation
and bringing things into the world and just watching them
kind of thrive. And so this is just another one.
So I don't I'm I'm don't. Don't think that I'm

(16:48):
leaving you kind of dejected him down.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, I'm about a round of applause from Steve. You
know what he was, Steve Jobs before Steve John. Yeah,
that's the innovator that Steve Young is.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And I don't. I don't have to wear a black
tin turtlenapp Yeah, yeah, I got I got a dumber
number of things in my repertory and I can put
it on on the parties this weekend with my wife.
She's like, man, you you can do it, so you
can just see it in your mind. Catch it.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't want to see it in my mind, but
it's there. It was, Yeah, it was something. I'm sure
it was in the swagger Wagon. Thank you, Steve, Steve Boys,
that's Steve. Yeah.

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Speaker 2 (18:48):
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He's Kirk Cousins, he Founcons quarterback, four time Pro bowler,
fresh off the win Monday night against the Eagles, back
on the program. How you doing.

Speaker 9 (19:02):
I'm doing well, Dan. I'm also a big fan of
a Mercedes Benz now that I move to Atlanta driving
Mercedes Benz. But I'm here on this interview for one
reason and one reason only, and that's to talk about
another brand that I have a great respect for and
want to honor, and that's Qualcomm, O, my conductor software
and telecommunications company that really just inspired me to go

(19:23):
on this interview today.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Thank you. I hope you'll allow me to indulge in
you and some other questions about like the win against
the Eagles. But if you want to get around talking
about Qualcomm, we'll get to that pitch coming up.

Speaker 9 (19:35):
Unlike Matt Harvey, I will allow you to talk football, okay,
But Qualcomm does mean a great deal to me as
it does Matt.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
All right, last Drive by Philly. You're on the sidelines.
What do you think is going to happen. How's that
going to play out?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Dan?

Speaker 9 (19:54):
The final drive of the game. I've got some scars
in my football career where I thought we had won
the game and then it didn't end up the way
I had hoped. So I get a little skeptical when
I'm standing there watching, but you also believe, you know,
we can do this. And all the Eagles needed was
a field goal. So I was just standing and watching,

(20:14):
and our defense made a great play. Jesse Bates was
instinct got the interception and at that point just needed
to take a knee.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
But when you see them passing, because on the Manning
cast you had Peyton Eli and Matt Ryan saying the
only way the Falcons can get the ball back is
if the Eagles put the ball in the air. You
see the pass and then what are you thinking when
Saquon drops that?

Speaker 9 (20:38):
Yeah, I think that's what's kind of so fun about
pro football is the strategy and the different options you
have there. I had heard an argument for you do
the the sneak that they've made famous on third down
and see if you can get it to a fourth
and one. And then because that play is seemingly so unstoppable.
Just do it again on fourth down and believe that
you're going to get it again. So there's an argument

(20:59):
for just doing that sneak all the way down the field.
But the play was a good play in the sense
that he he he is opening the flat and it's
a safe throw and h your odds are he's gonna
catch it and potentially convert, and and you can ice
the game. So you know, when you don't know the future,
you don't know how it's gonna play out, all you
can do is is make your best call that you

(21:19):
believe in and and let it go from there.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
What was it like you get in the huddle for
that last drive and you say, what.

Speaker 9 (21:27):
You know, I get very methodical. I'm kind of just
processed driven. So the play comes in, Hey we got
to run this play. If anything, it's all game. It's hey, guys,
let's just have fun competing and and let's wait.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wait, that's what you say. You're just like, hey, let's
let's compete, have some fun.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
I think there's a little bit of that. Just let's
not overcomplicate this. We don't need to talk about, you know,
the magnitude of the moment. We don't need to talk
about how John Candy's in the stands. You know, they
talk about it. Joe Montana said that, like, that's all
well and good, but let's just go play and uh,
find the open guy, get rid of the ball, and
try to get that first first down, and I think
I play my best. Just kind of simplifying the process

(22:03):
and just treat it like you're playing the job the
position you've always played.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm going to give your offensive line credit. But also
in the process question, the Eagles didn't blitz you, how
surprised were you? And I know their defensive coordinator normally
doesn't do that, but you don't have great mobility coming
off surgery. How surprised were you that they didn't send
an extra guy or two.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
Well, so the touchdown of Darnell Moone was cover zero,
so that was an all outputs. So if anything, when
they did bring the blitz, you know, we had our
biggest play of the night in terms of an explosive play.
So he may have said, hey, I learned my lesson
sending the pressure there, let's not do that. And secondly,
until the final drive when they were playing more of
a prevent coverage to just keep us out of the
end zone. They really did have a roof on the

(22:49):
defense and we weren't getting many explosives throughout the game,
so I would say their plan was reasonably effective outside
of that cover zero and then outside of the final drive,
So I wouldn't really second guess that plan. And Vic
Fangio is the decorner. I have a lot of respect
for it. Played against the lot he's always kind of
been tough. It's been hard to find explosives, and in
the first game against the Packers they didn't blitz a

(23:10):
ton either, so it was pretty pretty consistent with what
they've been doing.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Let's go around the room and gainst the percentage that
Kirk's achilles is or what he's gonna say. So, Todd,
what do you think Kirk is gonna say as far
as how far along he is with the recovery.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm gonna say eighty three percent.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Three ninety ninety five, ninety, Well, I need you to pick.
I'm gonna go towards ninety ninety Marvin Zeeden ninety five.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Only.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Kirk's a very positive guy. I let's say one hundred
and five percent.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Better better Now he's faster faster. Okay, I'm gonna go
I'm gonna say he's eighty eight percent right now.

Speaker 9 (23:49):
I'm somewhere between like ninety five and one oh five,
So you're there. I create a good parameter. Okay, I'm
feeling good. I think the challenge for me Dan, honestly
would be the red jersey of pract this and the
rust that I think needed to be worked off. I
think they being out since week eight last year or
after week eight, and when you come back, you're not
really back. You're in a red jersey, and it just

(24:10):
doesn't have the same feel of live football. I've always
said that going into week one that it's a little hard,
but just felt that again this year. And you know,
I'm optimistic that as we go here that that that
Russ gets off pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
But how does that affect you as far as planting
or running or lateral movement?

Speaker 9 (24:30):
You know, I think I think in the first game
against the Steelers, the final play really basically the interception
that I threw, I'm getting you know, I'm there's push,
but I'm used to in practice. Basically the Sea's part,
you know, it's like Moses and the Red Sea or
I just stand there and everybody just gets out of
the way and I make the throw. And then you
play against the Steelers and you realize they're not getting
out of the way. They're just going to continue to

(24:50):
make it a telephone booth for you. And so kind
of realizing that I've been playing in a much much
bigger telephone booth in practice, you get this false sense
of security of oh, I got space here, I got room,
when in reality, no, you don't. And so it takes
live bullets to realize, you know, just how fast the
game is moving and how just how small that telephone
booth can get.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
He's mister Primetime now, Kirk d Cousins joining us on
the program for the last five Monday Night.

Speaker 9 (25:16):
You couldn't then, I guess the tables have turned along
those lines.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
What happened?

Speaker 9 (25:20):
What I couldn't figure it out in primetime? And I
always shrugged my shoulders at both sides because some of
these Primetime wins I've had recently, I really haven't played
that that great.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You know.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
I remember we had won a couple of money night
games at the Bears, and I walked on the field.
We won, but I wasn't outstanding and there's been games
in the past we lost and I thought that's the
best I've ever played, So I kind of shrugged my
shoulders at it. But I'll much rather take mister primetime
than what it used to be.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
But what is that like when you throw that interception
that you know you feel like, Okay, we've lost this
game or I've cost us. That feeling of walking off,
you know, to the sidelines, going into the locker room,
you know.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
It definitely ruined my afternoon in my ing Dan, it's
pretty miserable.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Uh, But when you go home to the kid's wife.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Nah, No, it's there's no there's no consolation. I was
sitting there watching the Lions and Rams and I'm, uh,
pretty miserable on Sunday night. That's honestly again, that's the
challenge I've had my whole career is how do you
how do you still sort of sleep at night? How
do you you know cause you're gonna fail, this league's
gonna test you. Is being able to kind of let

(26:26):
it roll off your back and just move forward. For me,
it's always been you just wear it so hard, And
that was something that both Sean mcvayh and I used
to kind of, you know, have a kindred spirit about it.
Is it just it just eats at you, and it's
what it's what makes you great. It's one of your
greatest strengths. But then it can also be one of
your biggest challenges you face. And and just that that
how much it means to you something I've always tried

(26:48):
to kind of balance.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
But the pressure that I see on these rookie quarterbacks.
You played I think one game your rookie season, but
you know, high draft pick, come on in and let's
see some magic here. Uh Bryce Ung from last year,
now he gets binged. I can you can you put
us in that position of what that pressure is like
for these kids?

Speaker 9 (27:09):
Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. First of all, football's a
team game. And so when you have a great system,
great coaches around you, getting people wide open, the protection
plans outstanding, you're gonna look a little better, and vice versa.
When you you know, if you got to you know
people around you who aren't really helping move the needle.
That can make it a lot harder too. So the

(27:31):
quarterback gets evaluated so much as if he's on an island,
when in reality, it's a team deal, and then uh,
certainly as a rookie, there's gonna be you know, a
learning curve. There's gonna be things that you've got to
figure out. And then then year two comes where defenses say, okay,
we we've got a year of film on you. Now
we're gonna study you and start to figure out better

(27:51):
how to defend you. So even once you have a
good rookie year, that doesn't suddenly mean you've got it
all figured out. So it's a marathon, not a sprint.
I learned that firsthand being a fourth round pick, thinking
that going to Washington was a dead end and seeing
how my career played out. You got to play for
the long game and just believe that if you have
good habits and a good process, that the long game
will work itself out.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
You got the Chiefs coming to town.

Speaker 9 (28:12):
Yep, Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Howell. How often do you you watch the other quarterback too?
Not as a fan, but just watching during the game
of what Mahomes would do, or Brady would do or
Josh whoever it might be.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
Well, it's funny because I remember driving home from a
game last year. We play at noon in Minnesota Central Time,
so we'd be driving home at like four o'clock and
my wife, who loves following it all, said in the cars,
she said, all the Sunday night football this week is
Mahomes versus Stafford. That's gonna be great. It's gonna be
a lot of fun or whatever the two quarterbacks were,
and I remember kind of kind of laughing. I like, well,

(28:49):
it's the Chiefs versus the Rams, it's not Mahomes verse Stafford.
But her point is is that the quarterbacks are what
makes it fun to watch. And I would tend to
agree with her that when you have two really high leveled,
experienced quarterbacks with a lot of skins on the wall,
that's what kind of draws my interest the most to
watch and to study and to see. And so I

(29:10):
think that's where football gets really fun, is when you
get those quarterbacks so you feel really know what they're doing.
It's it's really the best product.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, full disclosure. I wasn't big on the uniforms, the
away uniforms, the.

Speaker 9 (29:24):
All white with the black helmet.

Speaker 10 (29:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I needed I need a little more umph in there,
a little bit more contrast in there. And I know,
if you can work this in your contract.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
Well, your I negotiated a lot of contracts over the years,
so I'm open any here.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
You're very good at it. You're very good at it.
I think we gotta we gotta do a little better
on the road. It just felt a little your uniforms
felt incomplete.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
See, well, I don't want I don't want incomplete uniforms.
But when I played at Michigan State, our style was
all white head to toe with with the green helmet.
And so when I came in the locker room the
other night and saw it's gonna be all white with
the black helmet, it kind of took me back to
my Michigan State days and I thought, I can I
can work with this. We had success with this in college,
so I was open to it. You know, the linemen

(30:09):
tend to like all black because black is slimming. They
do not like all white. They feel like they're walking
out there looking like the michelin Man. So linemen would
be more in your corner. The all white does not
work for them.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
When Drake London goes to the line of scrimmage, does
he have any options thereof? I mean, the move is
incredible to score the game winner, but right like, how
does that work? What's the play call? And it's going
to him, but does he have any can he change anything?

Speaker 10 (30:41):
You know?

Speaker 9 (30:42):
So it's designed for him to kind of have that
basketball crossover. Drake has a basketball background and so he
has a real natural feel for how to break down
and kind of sell one way and go the other
like he's a point guard. And that's really what the
route called for. And Darius Slay is such an instinctive
corner and plays with great vision, and so we knew
that this route kind of kind of play to Darius's

(31:03):
game where if Drake gives that move inside, he'll he'll
react and he'll go for that big play and then
we can break back out to the front pylon. Really,
the freedom that Drake has is which angle to set do?
What does he flatten into the front pilon? Does he
kind of set it higher, so based on the coverage contour,
he'll change that angle. But once I saw him kind
of get Darius to bite inside, I just knew I
had to put it out to the sideline and he'll

(31:25):
go get it. And uh, very rarely do you get
that much separation down in the low regident. So Drake
made my jab a lot easier.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
How where will you be where Chris Jones is, Yeah, you.

Speaker 9 (31:36):
Have to be He'll he'll wreck the game if you're not.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
But do you go to the line of scrimmage and
how often do you look for a defensive player single
out a defensive player?

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Yeah? No, I think there's a lot of awareness. Certainly
where's ninety five and uh and for our O line,
our center, you know that whole thing. You know, whether
it's Aaron Donald, whether it's Max Crosby, whether it's Nick Bosa.
You know, there's there's just over a half dozen, maybe
a dozen guys in the league like that who will
wreck the game if you don't have four hands on
them as many plays as possible, you know, And Chris

(32:10):
is a personality on the field. He'll make himself known.
You know, you don't really have to go look at
for him because he's gonna he'll break the huddle he's making,
he's having a conversation, you're in a TV time out,
he's having a conversation. So they were the lineman last
year in Minnesota and we played him. We're joking, they said,
Chris is, you know, big personality. He's pretty friendly, he's
positive out there, but I don't really want to hear
any of it because he's ruining my day. So uh yeah,

(32:33):
we'll hopefully be able to corral him on Sunday. But
he's the real deal.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Do those guys Do you get yelled at by defensive players?

Speaker 9 (32:40):
Yeah? Usually, you know it's everything from the week one
TJ Watt after a play where you know, he does
a drive by and I kind of hear him and
feel him as I throw the ball. He'll he'll walk
back to the next play and just say, hey, what's up, Kirk,
and just kind of like he's saying hello. And there's
other guys who you know, they may yell you like
that at me. Uh you know, you'll get guys who
have more to say. You know, Brandon Graham at the

(33:02):
coin toss, I I, you know, go back to playing
in at the University of Michigan. We both grew up
in Michigan, so I've always you know, followed him and
dap him up at the coin toss and he's gonna
let me know, Hey, you know you're gonna see me
at the coin toss, but you're gonna see me a
lot this game. So he tries to, you know, kind
of get in your head from the from the coin toss.
So there's always talk going.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
But you're not a trash talker.

Speaker 9 (33:21):
So my my perspective is the same perspective of most quarterbacks,
which is why in the world would I gas them up?
Like like football is hard enough, Why in the world
would I add fuel to that fire. And sometimes I
see teammates who are adding fuel to their fire, and
I look like, go, guys, you're not the one standing
back in the pocket that they're foaming at the mouth
to come get Please stop, please stop adding fuel to

(33:44):
their fire. Do you try to be overly nice? Uh,
there's a little bit of that. I don't think there's
anything wrong with Hey, nice play, good rush. Uh you know,
how are the wife and kids?

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Good?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Cheap shot you say anything like that. You don't say
a nice cheap shot.

Speaker 9 (34:00):
No, No, you just kind of try to keep it civil.
Don't give him any additional reason that they already have
to come take your head off.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
He is the new mister Primetime and Primetime Sunday Night.
Kirk d Cousins, Hey, great to talk to you again.
Congratulations on the win.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
Good catching up. Thanks Dan and only here.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
To talk about qualcom.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
We spoke with Dave Roberts yesterday. This is prior to
yesterday's game. We reached out because I said to Fritzie,
I think that Show Hey will break this record join
the fifty to fifty club over the weekend, and we
wanted to talk to Dave Roberts and get that opportunity.
So he joined us prior to the game with Miami yesterday.
And the first thing I ask is how much credit

(34:53):
do you take for Show Hey Tony season.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
Zero?

Speaker 6 (35:00):
As a man, he is one of one. It's been
fun to have a front row seat watching what he
does each night.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
If I told you in March that he was approaching
a fifty to fifty season, you would have said, what, very.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Unlikely, very unlikely, but wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But he has this. What were you told after the procedure.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
I was told that he was just going to DH
and the plan was to rehab him on the pitching side,
the arm to get him ready for twenty twenty five.
But count on him as a full time hitter.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Where does he stand in his progress of pitching.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
He is throwing active, complete bullpens as far as using
his pitch mix, but not facing hit is yet. So
he's still a ways away what I see being in
a competitive game.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
There's no possibility that he's pitching in the postseason.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
You know, I think that I guess I left the
door open, and I think that with Showhead, I've learned
that nothing is impossible. But I still feel that the
progression is still a long ways away from being in
a major league game. But I think that it's okay
to leave that door just slightly cracked.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, that's what I was wondering. Given the pitching staff,
the state of your starting pitching, you know, do you
you kind of run that risk of can we can
we speed it up a little bit or can you
take a chance maybe sooner than you had thought with
using him.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
I don't think so, And certainly with the starting staff
injury injuries that we've accrued this season, thinking of him
as a starter to give us any length that is
in that there's a zero cent chance of that happening.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Talking to Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, How would you describe
this season if somebody didn't know what the Dodgers had done,
only saw your record, how would you sum it up?

Speaker 6 (37:21):
Challenging? I think is a very fair word.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
You have before guaranteed a World Series.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
God, you just never let that lie. And I love
the way it's such a bias take. That's great. Great.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
So that leads me to how do you feel about
your team this year?

Speaker 6 (37:45):
I like our kid. It's certainly with with the potential roster,
it's not the talent how we envisioned it. And I
think that any team that's contending for the World Series
this year probably to say the same thing. And I
do know that with baseball, it's not always the most
talented team. You know that that that wins the World Series.

(38:10):
And I think for our club, Dan and I and
I say this is talent is the floor for our
ball club, which we certainly still have a lot of talent,
and our fight is going to be the ceiling. So
I expect our ceiling to be significantly raised this postseason.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I talked to Jeff Passion of ESPN yesterday. I said,
how many teams could win the World Series? Take a
guess how many teams.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
He said, every team that gets a good that gets
an invite to the postseason.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, that's exactly what he said. He said, twelve team.
Do you think it's that wide open?

Speaker 6 (38:49):
I do. I do because I think that, you know,
I think that each all twelve teams that are going
to get in, I think that have some strengths clearly
and then have some clear flaws. And then so I
think with that it just comes down to, you know,
which team is playing the best. And I know everyone

(39:09):
says it every year, but when you have twelve different participants,
there's a lot of variables. And so, yeah, so I
agree with.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Jeff, best team you faced this year?

Speaker 6 (39:24):
You know, that's a good question. I think the it's
interesting is I could say the Cubs, you know, they
they every time we play them, they seem like they're
just kick our butts and they're playing the best. But
I think, you know, at one point I thought the
Phillies weren't going to lose a game this year, you know,

(39:45):
I thought, you know, we fortunately caught the Indians at
the right time. The Brewers have obviously had a great season.
I think probably the best team that we've played this year.
Is probably the Hadres.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Okay, yeah, certainly second half of the season, they've been great.
I'm just curious, go back to the Phillies. Can you
ever remember a player who was like Kyle Schwarber?

Speaker 6 (40:13):
You know, No, you know, he's certainly a three what
do they call three potential outcomes or whatever type of
hitter as far as they hit the walk and then
the homer, the walk and the strikeout.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
But I just love this guy's GrITT. He's very tough.
I think that you know, you see this guy and
you can clearly see that his teammates kind of take
his personality. And you know, even with the WBC, I've
talked to some players and they say he was kind
of the guy that was like the heart and soul
of that that you team.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I say, but to go up there in homer that
first at bat, that has to be so demoralizing when
you're the opposing manager pitch, Sure it.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Is, you know, because I think that, you know, that's
why we have show Hay Hitten in the one, you know,
because pitchers want to get into the game and they
want to throw that heater for a strike. But a
guy like Schwarber can make it one zero pretty quickly.
And when they when he's in the batter's box, like
Show Hey, they're already in scoring position. So uh, you know,

(41:23):
hitter pitchers are like hitters, and they have egos. They
don't want to throw a first pick slider or a break involved.
But if you don't, you throw it over the plate,
it's going to be damage.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I was wondering about this since you had one of
the more famous stolen bases in the history of baseball.
Have you helped or how have you helped show Hay
with stealing bases?

Speaker 6 (41:43):
You know what I actually, Dan, I haven't. I've left
that to show Hey and Clayton McCullough and does they
do a great job at setting. And it started in
spring training with show Hay working on his explosiveness as
jumps and the way he studies pitchers tendencies ells. It's
really remarkable, it really is. And I will say this
is that you know, there was a point I think

(42:05):
sometime in May where I really saw a show Hey
as a base dealer and not just an athletic past
the baseball player that outruns the baseball because in years
past his stolen base percentage was was you know, really pedestrian,
but this year it's very efficient.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
And but see that's what I wondered, with injuries coming
off of procedure surgery and then allowing him to run
as much as he's been running. I was surprised at then.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Yeah, but it's it's he doesn't dive, he slides, he
uses legs. So you're talking about the right elbow. And
I just don't think that there's any real risk with
the stolen bases. And I do think that it's thought
out in the sense that this is the only year
that he expects to not pitch as well, So that's
why I think he's used his legs a lot more

(42:57):
and just a more dynamic hitter.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Any chance that Mookie Benz plays all nine positions in
a game, I.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Will guarantee Dan there's no chance that he plays all
by positions in the game.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
How about for fun one day, there's no.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Chance I see him behind the plate? That can happen?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Might fight.

Speaker 10 (43:24):
All right?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Eight positions? Can you see MOOKI playing eight positions?

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Can I see him playing eight positions in a game?
You know what, there's a possibility, That's all I'm asking.
I think there's a possibility of that. We'll see if
we can make that happen.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well, Hey, good luck with Colorado. Thanks for joining us.
Always great to talk to.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
You, all right, DT, take care.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
He's Will Ferrell. He has a documentary, Will and Harper
that comes out next Friday, September twenty seventh, and Will's
good friend of thirty years, Harper Steele, comes out as
a trans woman and then they decide to go on
a road trip. The trailer looks awesome. Will Ferrell joining
us on the program. By the way, before we get

(44:19):
to this, Al Michaels was on yesterday. Okay, al Michaels
said he he's done everything. He wants to do the
Westminster Dog Show, but he will he will do it
if you do it with him. Would you be willing
to do the Westminster Dog Show with Al Michaels.

Speaker 10 (44:39):
I would do that in a heartbeat. Yeah, there's no question. Okay,
all right, Well, okay, how do we get this going?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Paulie? Can you send you Paulie knows the person or
somebody there.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yes, Paul, I'm tight with the dog people there. Will
I broached them yesterday. They're on hold your commitment.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, I think it's go. I think this is green
light time.

Speaker 10 (45:04):
Well, will you guys be involved in any way?

Speaker 2 (45:06):
We would be there like a support you know, we'll
be support dogs, like we would be there for you
to keep you company.

Speaker 10 (45:15):
Uh, what I'm thinking live remote? I think I'm thinking
you guys do the show from the Westminster Dog Show.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
All right?

Speaker 10 (45:23):
Done that either late precedes or follows.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, we'll have a post Westminster Dog Show like
a wrap up show.

Speaker 10 (45:32):
And you can have guest trainers and guest dogs.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
And kind of like a Manning cast but for dogs.
It okay, So tell me how you came about this.
That the trailer looks great. And you've known Harper Steele
from Saturday Night Live day so you've known him thirty
years now trans trail her.

Speaker 10 (45:58):
Now, Yeah, yeah, we met. We met in nineteen ninety five.
We've known each other almost thirty years. She was one
of the first writers who befriended me at the show.
We joke about it in the dock that you know
Saturay Night Live isn't necessarily a warm, fuzzy place, and

(46:20):
when you show up on the job, especially back then,
I think we had eight new cast members, an entire
brand new writing staff, and no one really told you
gave you marching orders. So I was kind of trying
to meet people and say hello. But it was not
I wouldn't say it was going well. In fact, I
found out later that people were like, what's up with

(46:42):
that guy? He seems nice, he doesn't seem very funny Harper.
Harper and I went to lunch one day and we
hadn't really met each other, and she was one of
the first people that I had kind of a one
on one and we were able to She was able
to report back to the group of writers, going, don't
sleep on him. He's actually really funny, and that's kind

(47:05):
of that's kind of how we kicked it off.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, did you know she was coming out as a
trans woman.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
Well, she sent she sent an email out to uh,
you know, our our friend group, probably three summers ago,
simply with the subject line and only the way a
comedy writer could do it. Hey, everyone, here's a weird one,

(47:34):
and then proceeds that at age fifty nine, I'm going
to transition to be a woman.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
And did you think you were being punked?

Speaker 6 (47:43):
There was?

Speaker 10 (47:43):
There was part of me that for sure, that's that's always,
that's always the knee jerk. And yet as I as
I read through the email again and again, I couldn't
figure out what the endgame would be here. So I
knew it was real, and I of course reached out
to her and said, Wow, congrats, can't wait to can't
wait to see you. And it took it took about

(48:04):
that was during a it was during COVID, so it
took took a good six months for us to finally
kind of have coffee and have a face to face.
And one of the things, if you know, if you
know Harper, she loves taking cross country road trips. That's
as long as I've known steel. She's driven. She's allowed
for time in her schedule to take five days to

(48:24):
go from LA to New York or back and forth.
And she was lamenting to another friend of ours that
now as a trans woman, I don't know if I
feel safe going into the same dive bars I used
to not think twice about. And an idea popped into
my head when we when we first met I said, Harper,
what if we take a road trip and it'll serve

(48:49):
two purposes you. I can maybe be a buffer for
you to go into these places that you're now experiencing
as Harper for the first time. At the same time,
I get a chance to ask you all the questions
that I have have that I think a lot of
us have who who don't know anyone who's transit, or
don't know that we know anyone. And I go, please,

(49:10):
I expect you to say no, I'm not trying to
exploit our friendship. And she did. She said no, And
then I think the more she wrapped her head around it,
she thought, no, this could be this could be cool,
and this could help me with my transition. And to
be quite frank, to not get too deep on it,

(49:30):
it would just be a blast to get someone to
pay for us to take us up. So we did it,
and it is one of the more remarkable things I've
ever gotten to be a part of the response to this.
We've been at a number of film festivals and we
were just in London. We're going to do some more
promotion here in the States, and people are really responding

(49:54):
to this discussion that we have. Obviously we're talking about
the trans experience, but at the same time, it's really
just a movie about having your friends back. It's about friendship,
it's about advocacy, it's about it's really about civility, which
we're finding that everyone's thirsting for. Just let's just be

(50:18):
nice to each other. And it's really funny. We make
funny fun of each other the entire road trip. And yeah,
it's I'm very proud of it.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Talking to Will Ferrell. The documentary comes out Friday, September
twenty seventh, that's called Will and Harper and Harper Steel
comes out as a trans woman and they embark on
a road trip. There is a great line in the
trailer where the fact that she's now a woman, you
ask if about her driving skills.

Speaker 10 (50:48):
Yes, yes, Immediately I say, now that you're a woman,
are you a worst driver? And she immediately starts to
dispute it and say, come on, give me a break,
And then she says, but yes.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I am risk for you and doing something like this,
I mean it's not in your normal wheelhouse here, right,
you know.

Speaker 10 (51:17):
I've thought about all the ramifications prior to doing something
like this, positive or negative, and you know, I, once
I kind of make a decision about any sort of
creative choice, or really any sort of life choice, I'm
not want to really look back and second guess it.
So yeah, possibly. At the same time, I think this

(51:41):
is an opportunity for someone who'd be considered part of
my audience, a chance to be educated in an area
that they wouldn't think about. Also, it helps when you're
kind of on the downside of your career. There's uh,

(52:01):
you know, I'm I'm I'm a low a lister, high
B list actor these days, so I think there's no
risk whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
When were you an a lister?

Speaker 10 (52:13):
Well, that doesn't dan, Come on, I had a great run.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Well I know, what, when did you become that a lister?
Was there was there a moment where you go, yep, honey,
I'm an a lister.

Speaker 10 (52:27):
Well, I that's my mantra. I tell myself that every
day I look in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
But I by the way, your hair is looking Napoleon
Dynamite like you're you're with the glasses and the hair.
It's never the same way twice.

Speaker 10 (52:48):
Yeah, Well that's the that's why.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Hollywood, that's an a lister.

Speaker 10 (52:52):
Yeah, don't cut your hair. You never know if you
need it long or short.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
But you did become an a lister at one point.

Speaker 10 (52:59):
I guess I guess it was. It was kind of
the It was kind of the trifecta of old school
Elf and anchorman that that that put me on the.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Map an elf. I mean, who would have thought, Well,
you didn't think that was gonna be.

Speaker 10 (53:19):
I certainly didn't.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
That was career suicide. Probably it could have been. I
guess well, I.

Speaker 10 (53:26):
Think we I think we talked about it and how
this is uh, yeah, I I just remember sitting in
a very small trailer in New York kind of the
first week of filming, staring at myself with a with
a very dangerous space heater in the wall that was sparking,

(53:49):
and thinking to myself, oh, this this movie better work
or or or you're done?

Speaker 9 (53:56):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Are you a European soccer owner? Now is it official?
With it official?

Speaker 10 (54:02):
So you're remember leads leads understand In fact, I just
caught a match last weekend. Yeah, and it was, uh,
it was fantastic. They they lost, but so I hope
I'm invited back. But no amazing atmosphere, you know, going
over there watching those games or unlike any other I'm

(54:25):
not this.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
These are preliminary talks, but somebody at ESPN said they're
thinking of doing a thirty for thirty on our trip
to Dublin. And oh yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
This is our one year, one month anniversary.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yes, right around the time, Yes, yes, yes, your favorite
memory of going with this show to Dublin was.

Speaker 10 (54:50):
Favorite memory? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
If you don't remember anything, that's okay.

Speaker 10 (55:00):
I do remember. I do remember going to that. We
went to that whiskey bar after one of the shows
and we were having some Keeper's Heart, but there was
always was this collection of whiskeys, and I remember we
were standing out front and I think we were I

(55:22):
think we were having a cigar out there in front.
And I do remember getting you to laugh because the police.
There was a police car coming down the road and
I just took off running and everyone looked. Half the
people thought, oh god, he's really in trouble. Did you right.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
A yellow jumpsuit?

Speaker 10 (55:43):
And Dan, you were right there on the bed, you knew.
I always that's a go do move of mine. If
I hear a siren, I just take off.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
The start running. My favorite moment was seeing you and
Brady Quinn wrestling.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Well.

Speaker 10 (56:01):
Also to uh the the form tackle of the Notre
Dame coach when he lifted me three feet off the ground. Oh,
Marcus Freeman, yeah, Marcus Freeman.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah. Yeah, you're like a stunt man. You do your
own stunts. You're like Tom Crue kind of.

Speaker 10 (56:17):
I was supposed to do that movie that Ryan Gosling did.
Oh really, but I turned it down. I let Ryan.
I let Ryan do it.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Eh.

Speaker 10 (56:27):
Wait, I got a question, Dan, did you guys go
to Minneapolis?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (56:31):
Were you in a parade?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (56:34):
What where was I?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I don't I always feel like I asked too much
of you.

Speaker 10 (56:41):
I would have been there in a heart I would
have I would have.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
You would have been there in a keeper's heart beat. Yes,
but yes, I was the Grand Marshal.

Speaker 10 (56:54):
Oh you were the Grand Marshal. So you didn't want
you didn't want anyone getting in your baby, ok I
get it.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Probably so, probably in retrospect, I wanted the state. See,
you're right, I didn't want you there. Yeah, I didn't
want you there. Next year, Next year, I.

Speaker 10 (57:14):
Want to be I want to be on my own
float way in the back.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Okay, we can do that.

Speaker 10 (57:20):
I want to be on just a bicycle with some streamers.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
But we could just get liquored up and have a
good time.

Speaker 10 (57:26):
I still need to Brian, Brian Nation keeps counting me.
I got to go out and and sample from my
own barrel.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
You have your barrel there.

Speaker 10 (57:34):
I have my barrel and and it's had to buy
an extra seat and coach.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
To bring it.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Uh, your Trojan's in the big house tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (57:45):
I know, very exciting. Uh this is a this is
a real litmus test for us. What do you say?
I mean, it all comes down to stopping to run.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Right and playing good defense and protecting the football.

Speaker 10 (58:01):
But I'm not talking about football. I'm talking about in life.
All comes down is stopping the run.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Good luck with the movie the documentary. It's on Netflix.
It's next Friday, September twenty seventh, and if you want
to taste of it, you can download the trailer. It
is emblematic. I hope with the documentary and if it is,
it'll be awesome. But Will and his good friend of
thirty years, Harper Steele, comes out as a trans woman,

(58:29):
and hilarity Ensue says, they embark on a road trip there.

Speaker 10 (58:33):
Absolutely, it's surprisingly funny. Thanks Dan, I appreciate you having
me on and getting to talk about this. Yeah, it's
one of the cooler things I've gotten to be a
part of.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Well, you said that playing all nine positions in spring
training might have been a little better than this, more rewarding.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
But.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Well, the Westminzard Dogs
show will be.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
The Okay, now I'm serious. Al Michael's wants to do this.

Speaker 10 (59:04):
God love him. Yeah, I can't say no to that.
There's no way I could say no to that.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
All right, thanks for joining us as always. All right,
he's a European soccer club owners leads