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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show,
We'll check in with the former quarterback RG three, who
will stop by. I'm wondering if he watches Jayden Daniels
he sees himself. Commanders look good last night. It's not
a standalone game, but it's pretty close to it. You
had two games last night. Look, I'm all in favor
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did with Buffalo and Jacksonville, the Commander's game against the
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Seatan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I neglected you in the first hour because I spent
so much much time talking about Paulie and his birthday
that I.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just kill myself.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I've never met somebody who hates their birthdays more or
being recognized for their birthdays more than you do.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I think it's less about that and more so about
the over birthday effect of people around, like where it's
the birthday month, the birthday week. I'm fine for one
nice day, you know, if you want cakes and then
a little emails and texts. Great, It's a one day event,
that's the thing. It's a one day event.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yeah, seed, I think it's actually employed just to get
more attention for his birthday.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Fair point, because we've.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Spent so much time today talking about how Paul doesn't
like to talk about his birthday that we actually have
to end up spending way more time talking about it. Please, guys,
just don't. I don't want to do the whole birthday month.
No gifts, nobody did, nobody was doing a birthday month
for you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But please don't.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Don't. Don't.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Just please enough of me, guys, enough about me. I
know it's my birthday all but.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It it's like the actor goes out to a restaurant
and then lets the paparazzi know they're going out to
the restaurants and then comes out and it's like, oh,
come on, come on, God on, how about some privacy,
How about some privacy? I was at Craig's in West
Hollywood and there're you know, celebrities where we have my
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birthday party there. That's when we had was John Fogerty,
Josh Dumel, Jennifer Aniston, I think was Yeah, she wasn't
at the party, but she was in the building there.
And I remember towards the end of a meal that
I had there, my daughter goes, hey, that's Caitlyn Jenner.
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And I look over and it's Caitlyn Jenner and getting
ready to walk out. So I walk over to Caitlyn
and I said hey, and she goes, hey, Dan, and
I go and she goes watch this. And she walked
out the door. And you know, it's nine o'clock at night,
it might have been it felt like seven am. With
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the bright lights. It was like the sun just came up.
And she came out, and there had to be fifty
flashbulbs going off, and I'm probably sure that somebody tipped
off somebody and told somebody that somebody was going to
be there, and all these Jane Fonda came in like
it was wild. You're just going all right, hey that
it's like a wax museum that came to life where
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you go, oh, look at there's a that looks like, oh,
that is Tim Tebow was there one night, really one
of the models Gigi hadid. I didn't wreckon. John Mayer
was there one night, and a lot of those nights
there were that. That's how many people were there. I
went with Rich Eisen and his wife and my daughter
was going to USC at the time. We go to
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dinner and John Mayer is right next to us, and
then my daughter, my daughter goes, are you going to
introduce me? And I said, well, I've met John a
couple of times, but he's not a sports guy. And
so she goes, I don't care if he's a sports guy.
So I walk over and say, hey, John, how are
you you know? How's your watch collection? How's a legendary
watch collection? He goes, oh you know, ba ba ba.
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I said, oh, this is my daughter Georgia, and I
bring her over and she doesn't. She freezes up. She
didn't say anything. Then we go back, sit down. She goes,
never do that to me again.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I go what. She goes, introduce me to a celebrity.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I go, okay, we'll do but Yeah, you go in
there and it's like, Wow, there's a lot of famous
people around here, and of course me pole question for
hour two is going to be what Seaton o Connor?
By the way, it's Paulie's birthday, Okay birthday week.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Poll question for hour two is going to be.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Why does Trevor Lawrence get a criticism hall pass? This
one sent over from paul Okay for his birthday? Why
does Trevor Lawrence get a criticism hall pass?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Urban Meyer?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
He feels like a star quarterback spillover from his college
years or I have no idea. Yeah, why he gets
a haul pass from criticism?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I think it's the market that he's in. I
think if he was in a you know, in a
city where the team has national presence, then you would
get ESPN and Fox, their talk shows would would be
focusing on him a little bit more. He's in Jacksonville,
and that's not NFL purgatory, but for TV relevancy it
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probably is. You're not talking about certain teams in certain
markets just because they don't register. Now, if he's the
quarterback of the Eagles or the Giants, imagine if Trevor
Lawrence was with the Giants he would get. Yes, this
would not be pretty. I mean, look at Danny Dimes
getting roughed up there. But if Trevor Lawrence played this
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way in New York, then it would be different. There
would be a whole lot more heat headed that way. Yes, Seaton, Well, yes.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Some people have responded to the Pole question by saying
the option should be yet nobody cares about Jacksonville, which
is fair, But other people have said that it's because
because of his draft narrative.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, I think we do care about being the number
one pick in the draft.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
And well mention how he was framed within the draft
that he is a generational prospect, can't miss that he
gets more years because it's like, you know, eventually he's
going to catch on. This is a can't miss guy.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But why is it we don't allow that to Zach Wilson,
Like if you're the second pick in the draft, we
don't give you that same kind of leeway. We just
feel like, like Caleb Williams, Hey, he's going to be great,
don't worry about it. Whereas if somebody is drafted second, third, fourth,
it doesn't feel like we give you. You're not on
scholarships long, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I think you know. It starts with the Urban Meyer.
Year one, he got a complete Hall pass. Trevor Lawrence
year one. Year two is great, nine and eight, twenty
five touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Eight picks.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Last year he cooled off, like like Seton says, it
feels like an inevitability that he's going to be a
great quarterback based off college. But and this is an
Apples and Oranges comparison, the coverage of Ben Simmons five
years ago at the basketball player like, well, it's still
gonna happen. It has to happen. He was a generational
Magic Johnson with muscle, but it's not happening now. Again,
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it's a very different Apples and Orgy situation.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I still I go back to Ben Simmons, and I
told you guys, when I first saw him play, I go,
I think he's shooting with the wrong hand. That doesn't
sound like a generational talent. And he didn't make himself
better Magic made himself a better shooter. He was supposed
to be another Magic Johnson. Well we're not finding another
Magic Johnson. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, they're unicorns. But I'm
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watching Ben Simmons. I go well, first of all, I
can't shoot to start there. But he is six '
nine playing point. He could do other things, but I
don't think he loved playing basketball. And I think, you know,
I'm assuming Trevor Lawrence loves playing football. Ben Simmons famously
didn't want to play, and I think that's the difference.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yes, Todd, I think it's in part the flowing locks,
and he's like the high school dream me quarterback look.
And in some small fashion, it's like, we don't want
to hate on this guy as he walks in and
they showed him coming into the into the stadium with
his blonde hit and you're like, I don't want to
hate on this guy.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Look at him.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
He's too pretty to hate or something.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So if he wasn't as good looking, then we would
be okay with hating on him.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
I think we would be more likely to go after
him if he didn't have a certain look about him,
like he's Superman.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Really.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, we went after Zack Wilson.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We went after Zach Wilson.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Zach wasn't looks like he's twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He looks like a quarterback playing a quarterback in a
movie on you know c W. Yes, but like, no,
I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
We were talking about Zach Wilson when he was like
in high school, being like this guy is the real deal,
you know, yeah, yeah, I think I think that's the
different part. Zack Wilson was never described as a generational talent.
He was like, Hey, I think this kid might be good. Well, no,
Fritzie's talking about how he looks. Like we are factoring
in Trevor Jowls's looks. I don't really factor in much
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of what Todd's saying. Oh damn, what are we saying
that Caleb Williams is not a good looking guy.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I of course he is. You know, yeah, he's a
handsome kid.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Yeah, but he's got a reputation of being a bit
of a whiner and arrogant.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Just done. I don't know if Trevor has that way.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Now we're now we're factoring in whining and arrogance.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
That a factor at all, and it's all part of
the possible People like or don't like.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Long hair is just so humble, it's so humble.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I just want to know if you can play. That's
all I want. I want to know if you can play.
And I think coming from a guy who's bald. You
have a problem with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Oh, Harris, I just said that I like Trevor. I'm
having a I'm having a tough time also not liking him.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
You would think I would be jealous of that.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
But I can't say I like him.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
But I'm waiting for him to be great.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean I can.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
There's a lot of athletes I like, but that doesn't
mean I go, oh, you know they're they're uh, they
can sidestep criticism. I have to see it. You say it, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did the playoff win?
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Give him just a little bit of grace, like, so
now you know he can at least win a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, but they've been terrible.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
They've won what were they eight and three to start out,
and then they've lost what eight of their last nine
if you include the you know, the three this year.
That's that's where if you're a coach, your job's in jeopardy.
And they extended Trevor Lawrence after that finish. So but
a great night. Josh Allen was wonderful. Four touchdowns. They
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put this to bed in the first half. Up for
the Bills undefeated at the Ravens at the Texans at
the Jets, so tough sledding there. And here is Josh
Allen about staying undefeated.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
One game at the time.
Speaker 9 (10:39):
They don't win, you don't win a Super Bowl, get
into playoffs with three games, and I think this team
understands that. Like I said, well, we'll watch this film
and put this behind us as quickly as we can.
And you know, like I said, we have a really
good team that we're going into and you know, we.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Gotta be ready.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Did we come up with the snarky poll question for
hour or two? Paulie Trevor Lawrence? Okay, all right, so
that's the snarky poll question hour or two. We say,
good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for
downloading the app. Our radio affiliates around the country as well.
Over unders the Commanders. Now it's seven and a half,
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Jags are six and a half, Bengals eight.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And a half.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Bill's eleven and a half. The teams from last night.
It is interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I don't know if Josh Allen was taking a shot
at Stefan Diggs after the game, but he said, hey,
it's great to have guys who aren't worried about their stats.
We're having fun. It's great.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
That's not even availed. Jab. I don't think I mean, geez.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, yeah, but he you know, he said, I'm paraphrasing,
but basically, it's nice to have fun again and not
have guys who worry about their stats. It doesn't take
long Togo. Who could he be talking about? Stefan Diggs.
Let's see Ryan and Charlotte. Good morning, Ryan, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 10 (12:06):
Six two, three fifty.
Speaker 11 (12:10):
Happy birthday, Pauli. Josh Allen, the most overrated player, looked
pretty good last night. I think he looked well rated,
to be honest. Four touchdowns in the first half that
that hasn't happened since Big Ben seventeen years ago. A
couple other numbers seven past touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns, zero turnovers.
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Zero stuff on Diggs. No one's crying about the ball.
I think the pressure's off Josh and.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well and you bring up the great stat and that's
zero turnovers. That's that's been a problem for him. It's
a problem for Jalen Hurts. Like some of these quarterbacks.
It's it's not coincidental, it's almost habit forming here and
Josh taking care of the football. They lost defensive players,
Matt Mulano their best defensive player. Like there, I don't
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know how they're doing it, but they're doing it. They're
getting a running game and Josh is able to spread
the wealth around. You got some good receivers, tight ends.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
Yes, Marvin, this feels like a perfect season for Josh
Allen win MVP with the players that he's lost.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, and we talked about that because they don't have
all the weapons, we kind of downplayed what their success
could be. And now we're looking, well, this is Josh
Allen is being Josh Allen MVP like a legitimate MVP candidate,
not one of those that it felt like the media
was forcing Josh in there to make it a two
man race with Patrick Mahomes. Luke in Charlotte, Hi, Luke,
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what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (13:41):
Hey guys, I got a funny little anecdote for you.
But before that, it's a happy birthday, Helly birth birthday. Yeah, birthday. Anyways,
thanks for joining me. I was watching the Connor Stallions
documentary on that Netflix and there was a funny little
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mishap where they have a montage of different announcers, you know,
just little audio bites from different shows, and there's a
clip from the cow Herd Show with the subtitles of
Dane Patrick under it. Someone got a little name mix up.
I feel like you might have to reach out with
them our people to correct it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yes, Now I know that that documentary did ask for
a clip from our show, so it could have been
one of those Chiron Graphics issues because they had a
clip from The Herd Show and a clip from our show.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, Yeah, that's nice. Get a little credit for the show.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Just stealing our material as usual. Colin, I like, yeah,
I like thak accusation based off nothing, all right, Colin, Yeah,
like like he didn't reach out to those people and
ask them to put Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Let's not go there. Colin and I are playing nice.
We're playing nice in the sandboch jk JK, just kidding.
We're working. We're working together. Team, that's what this is
at Biever Happy birthday. All right, Let me take a break.
RG three will join us.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
We'll get to more phone calls is well on this Tuesday.
Back after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
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is Out of Pocket with RG three. Who joins us
back on the program.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
What did you see last night? Where do you want
to start?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
First of all, I want to say thank you for
having me on.
Speaker 10 (15:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Always a big fan of you guys. Always been great
to me. So, I mean the question is we're what
do you want to start? I mean, there's so much
that happened in that game.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
All right, Well let me start with Jayden Daniels, And
I want to know, with being a rookie quarterback, most
important element of a rookie quarterback? Is it the head coach,
the offensive coordinator or is it the tools around the quarterback?
If he had to pick one of those three, yeah,
you know, then I think it's all three.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
To answer your question specifically, I think it's the tools
around the quarterback. But I think that goes for not
just a rookie QB. But for any quarterback, you know,
for him to have Scary Terry McLarin there a true
bona fide number one wide receiver. To have Austin Eckler there.
I know he went out in the game with the concussion,
but his presence there on third downs throughout the season
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has been phenomenal. Of course, Brian Robinson also being there,
and then zach Ertz. We mentioned all these guys and
every single one of them showed up big in the game.
Scary Terry had the big catch at the end. He
also had the fifty five yard completion early in the game,
taking the top off the defense. Ach Ertz had the
huge fourth down conversion, and Eckler had a huge kickoff return.
But you know, for me, it's with Jayden Daniels. It's
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like a star wasn't born last night because he was
already a star. But he is now the brightest light
that we have coming out of Washington, DC. And that
includes anyone who becomes the President of the United States,
because in DC, there's no better city, there's no better
city to win in in my opinion, than in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, the star didn't come out. We validated the Star
it feels like because it's sort of a standalone game.
And now if this is a one o'clock game on Sunday,
people might go, oh, I saw the highlights when you
need to see the totality of a game, certainly with
a rookie to go he had a good game or
he didn't have a good game, because stats can lie
when we just showed the highlights there, can you run smart?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
How do you run smart? If you're Jaden Daniels? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I mean, I think his game is more than just
the Dan. You know, when you look at the way
that it went first and foremost, I think Jayden Daniels
gives DC hope, hope they haven't had in over a decade.
And that shows up when he makes the big throw
down the field to Terry McLaren, even though they're in
quarters coverage and he looks off, the safety doesn't just
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stare him down and he makes that throw. And if
you actually go back and watch the tape, he made
that throw slightly late, which shows you how much arm
talent he has and how much arm strength he has
that he was able to make up for being just
like a half a second late on the throw. To
drop a diamond to scary Terry McLaren. But I know
there's a lot of people out there breaking down taped
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in and I just have to say that unless you
played the position, you'll never understand how special of a
performance what Jayden Daniels did last night was fourth and
four on Since he's thirty nine yard line and they're
trying to determine are they going to go for it?
He tells the coach lets go, has ice in his
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veins and completes a nice stop route to Zach Ertz
for a first down. And then, of course I think
everyone's broken down the touchdown pass, you know at the
end against cover zero. Everyone in the world, in the
football world, should I say, knew that Luena Rumo was
gonna call cover zero. And for Cliff Kingsbury to have
the kahonas to trust his rookie quarterback to throw a
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double move against cover zero shows you how much the
coach is there in that organization believe in Jayden Daniels.
But then the throw itself, him having his eyes in
the right place, gaining depth out of the drop to
make sure he had enough time to stare down the
barrel of the shotgun, knowing that he's going to get hit,
waits just long enough and still makes the throw. I
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think what a lot of people understand is he didn't
even see how much of a dime he threw Dan
until his friends and family showed him after the game.
That's how Hardy got hit. And you know they weren't
showing that replay in Sincy. So for him to make
that type of play in that moment, to me, it
wipes out all the conversation about how does he run?
You know, is there a safe way to run? Because
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what he showcased last night was his prowess as a thrower,
and I was trying to stress that to everybody in
the offseason. Yes, he's the most dynamic runner in all
college football, but he was also the most dynamic passer
throwing the football down the field, and he showed that
off time and time again against the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You think he's better than Caleb Williams, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But I stated very specifically that I thought Caleb Williams
was the number one quarterback in the draft, but that
I believe that Jayden and Daniel was the most explosive
quarterback both as a runner and as a passer. And
I think that's to me, Dan, you know how this
thing goes and how the draft, you know, formulates, and
how all the storylines get created. But this isn't a
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Caleb Williams versus Jaden Daniels thing. To me, this isn't
a CJ. Stroud versus Bryce Young. I think it's a
battle or a fight upon expectations. And when you give
a quarterback like Caleb Williams, whose ultra talent had been
working since he's six years old to be in this position,
you give him three number one wide receivers, a dynamic
running back, a solid offensive line, and a defense that
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everybody expected to be top ten. Expectations are through the roof.
So now he's playing like a rookie. They're one and
two and people are panicking for Jaden Daniels. In Washington,
there were no expectations. I don't know who you picked
for the game, Dan, but I don't think anybody picked
Washington other than myself in true Washington commanders fans. So
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he has taken an opportunity where there was no expectations,
and now he's turned it into an opportunity to lead,
not just a team, but an entire city. So I
think that's where the comparison between him and Caleb Williams
kind of goes awry because they're in two totally different
situations with totally different expectations.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He's RG three, His podcast on YouTube is out of
pocket with RG three wherever you get your podcast. What's
different about Josh Allen with this team that it doesn't
seem like they have the manpower on defense. They lose
step On Diggs. He's playing great, Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well down. It's the old cliche, or I wouldn't say cliche,
but when you have a true number one wide receiver
like a Stephan Diggs, there's an expectation once again for
you to throw him football.
Speaker 10 (22:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Everything has to start with that guy because if it doesn't,
it can kind of throw your team off. And he's
so talented that you want to get him the football ten, twelve,
fifteen times a game, or at least get him that
many targets. I think for Josh Allen, a big he's
had a chance to take a big, deep breath, right,
get that monkey off his back. If you have to
throw the football to this guy consistently all the time,
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and now he's able to just drop back, go through
his progressions, make his reads, and get the football to
the right guy. And I look at this as the
same situation. And I also brought this up in the offseason.
It's the same situation that Mahomes have Tyreek Hill. Once
Tyreek Hill left, Mahomes now had to go through his
reads and he had He even talked about it. He
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had to read defenses a lot more studiously so that
he could get the ball to where it's supposed to
go instead of dropping back and saying, hey, Tyreek Hill's
got to be open somewhere down there. So now Josh
Allen is proving that their offense can be more efficient
without step On Diggs, and it's helping him as a
player because he doesn't have that that, you know, the
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one angel on his shoulder and the devil on the
other shoulder saying the Devi's like, you gotta throw the
stufboll Day's all the time. They're just like, no, read
the coverage, it's covered four, don't throw the post unless
the safety takes the out route. So I think Josh
Allen is experiencing that, and it was good to see
Keyon Coleman actually get his first NFL touchdown as well,
because I believe he can turn into that number one
wide out. But in the meantime, I think Josh Allen's
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having more fun playing football.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, you talk about an interesting luxury, but it's a
dichotomy or conundrum itche I got to keep that happy.
And I thought this was the detriment of Baker Mayfield
in Cleveland with OBJ that he kept having. You know,
you got to keep them happy. That's your guy. And
then it's to the detriment of you. And you see
this with quarterbacks and you bring up the great point.
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You lose Tyreek Hill and Mahomes became an even better quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Speaking of which, Trevor.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Lawrence keep waiting, We keep waiting, and he doesn't get
a lot of coverage, like negative coverage.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Correct, Why oh man, Dan, that's a that is this
is why you're one of the best, man, because those
It's a great question. I think part of the reason
is he's in Jacksonville and Jacksonville is not a big
market team, whereas if he was in New York or
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DC that he would certainly get negative coverage. It's kind
of the same reas and he got paid right, if
you look at what he got paid for what he
had produced on the field, that those don't add up.
And I don't think anyone with you know, who's thinking
clearly would say that, yeah, that adds up. I'm not
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trying to take money away from anybody. I'm happy he
got paid. I'm happy Daniel Jones Jones got paid. Should
they have probably not right. They probably should have had
more years to prove that they were the guy. But
when you're a guy like Trevor Lawrence, you come out
of high school as a top rated prospect, you go
to Clemson and and you're a top rated prospect coming
out as well, there's a little more leniency. And he
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has all the size, the strength, the measurables, the beautiful
luscious hair, head and shoulders hair, you know. But I don't.
I don't understand why he doesn't get more negative coverage
in the sense of constructive criticism. You know me, I'm
not a negative guy. I will constructively criticize guys and say, hey,
your feet aren't matching up, you're not making the right throws.
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You're trying to force this in there. And I think
right now Trevor Lawrence is trying to prove why they
paid him when I don't think that's how you should
ever play the quarterback position. For for instance, we're not
talking about him anymore, but Jaden Daniels, he has this
uncanny ability to not try to do too much. I
know as a runner he can, you know, maybe slide
a little bit earlier, not take some hits. But to
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have the highest completion percentage ever for a rookie quarterback
in a game at ninety one point three percent was
beyond incredible. But when you watch the actual game, he's
just taken what the defense gives him. And I think
for Trevor Lawrence, that's what he has to get back to.
It's not playing conservatively and it's not playing scared. It's
playing the position the right way. When it's time to
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take a shot, take the shot. When it's time to
throw the checkdown, throw the dang check down. And I
think that's how he can get himself back into playing
in a better rhythm and people will stop questioning why
he got paid and what's going on in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'm also trying to understand the Dolphins philosophy. I wouldn't
have extended to a hold my breath. I yeah, I
know that he had a wonderful year. I can't live
play to play with him, and if I do extend him,
then I really have to go after a quarterback who
can play this system and is a viable backup. Now
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that's where I would have said to Tua, you're gonna
take less money, and I got to make sure I
have a great backup in case you get injured. Otherwise
I can't extend you. It just to me, it didn't
make sense. And I know that he had a wonderful year. Yeah,
I just and now this situation, they don't have a
good backup.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
If you asked Pittsburgh, would you trade Russell Wilson?
Speaker 10 (27:41):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
This is a team that's ready to win now, supposed
to win now. So where do you stand on this
dolphin situation? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
You know, if you look at Tua in a vacuum, right,
no outside influences, I think you have some solid points. Hey,
he's had some concussion issues, we don't and some other
injury issues. You know, can we really can we really
trust that he's going to stay healthy. Those are all
solid points. But when you take in all the outside contexts,
and we just talked about a guy in Trevor Lawnce
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who got paid, who had a good year two years ago,
two US put together two top five quarterback seasons, so
he had earned the money and earned the right to
get paid at that level. But your point about the
backup QB is why the backup quarterback is the second
most important position on any team Because for years we've
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heard people say, since Mike McDaniel got there, anybody can
run the system. Anybody can throw the ball to Tyreek Hill,
anybody can throw the ball to Jaalen Waddle, anybody can
hand the ball off to a chain and moster. And
now you see that that's not really the case. So
for me, I'm you know one, I don't think anybody
should should be Everybody can have an opinion, right then,
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I don't think anybody should be telling twa what he
should do with his career. He's the only one that
can make that decision. Yeah, right, absolutely. But now with
them in the quarterback position, Skylett Thompson goes down. You
got Tim Boyle out there, Snoopontley is on the team.
They just claimed him from the Ravens practice squad. Who
is going to be able to run this system the
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right way. I don't know, but none of them are
going to be to a tongue of biolola. And if
you were to say, hey, well the starter got hurt,
the backup's not as good, everyone would tell you, yeah,
well no, duh. But this is why the veteran quarterback
is so important in the NFL. Andy Dalton in Carolina,
why was he so successful. It's not because the Carolina
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Panthers or Dave Kannalis or Dan Morgan developed him as
a player. Right He's been in the league first ninety years, okay,
and he's played at a high level at times, especially
when he was the starter for the Cincinnati Bengals. But
you need guys like Andy Dalton in the quarterback room
because if your quarterback does go down, you know that
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you have a quarterback that can make you a playoff contender.
And we don't know that. We didn't know that about
Skylett Thompson. We don't know that about Tim Boyle. I'm
pretty interested in seeing Snoopontle out there. Former teammate love him,
but we don't know that about him either. So their
situation is, you know, they're up a Creek without a paddle,
without two because of what they did at the backup
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quarterback position. And you can't fix that now. Trading for
Russell Wilson who has a calf injury. You're gonna trade
for a guy that that that's not healthy?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You know, No, once he's cleared lunch, he's cleared, would
you Adam Schefter said Zack Wilson to bring him in
in that situation?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, So how do you feel about that?
Speaker 11 (30:43):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I don't I don't know how the same as you.
You just haven't said it. You're you're telling me, you're
saying it right to me. Before I let you go,
I thought about this. If I lined you up at
your peak okay against Tyreek Hill, Oh wow, okay, who
wins let's go one hundred meters?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, who wins? Tyreek wins the hundred. Yeah, he's a
he's a ten ten to one one hundred guy out
of high school. You know, at my peak and at
his peak, I was a ten one hundred guy as well.
But at his peak he wins the hundred. Any anything else?
Any I think if you go down it's it's favoring
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him personally. Sixty forty one hundred him. Anything over two
hundred I win hands down. Two hundred is actually a
lot closer than you think, even though I know he
was a great two hundred meter runner, but uh, you know,
Tyreek is He's next level. I do think that he
could he could beat no Allows in a forty though
I think a sixty no Allows beats him. But in
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a forty, I think that that no Allows can be him.
I mean that's a that's Tyreek can be Noah.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Just because Noah gets a slow start and and Tyreek
is so great. I mean he gets into top gear
as quick, if not quicker than anybody.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I would tell you go look at tyreek sixty
that he ran a few years ago, and look at
obviously Noah's pr in the sixty. They're not close as
far as like in track terms their times. But if
you bring that down to a forty, yeah, Tyreek definitely
has a chance there because that, like you said, that's
not the strongest part of no A. Llows's race. I mean,
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of yeah, of no Allows race. What's it like to
run fast? Well, you know, Dan, I actually raced an
F one car like a few months ago. And I
don't mean like in the like driver's seat, I mean
like on foot. So I was actually winning for like
thirty yards. I was very proud of myself, Dan, And
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then the last ten I was like running and I
could see the car like seven blocks away. It was funny.
But to run fast, it's like, you know, you see
the images of the dogs running and like their ears
are flapping and the wind is blowing in their face.
That's what it feels like to run fast. The wind
is just you just feel that. And I hope you've
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experienced that at least no time in your life. I haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I the one thing I experienced, and I tell the Dan,
it's this. I was in London for the Olympics and
saw Bolt run the two hundred. And when you watch somebody,
you know, TV will frame it so you don't really
get an idea of how fast they're running. They're running fast,
but the camera stays with you. I'm on the turn
and Bolt is coming around the turn and I said
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to my wife, I said, the race is over, and
she goes, it's over. I said, no, it's going to
be over because if you didn't get him, you didn't
you get him there. You weren't getting him The visual
is incredible to watch somebody the fastest man in the
world in history and when he makes that turn, the
camera is not on him, My TV's not on him
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that way, It's just me watching him and it was
one of the most impressive things I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, I mean, it's why a lot of people in
the track world get upset when people talk about, Hey,
this football player is the fastest guy in the world
or whatever it may be, because they understand not just
you say bolt, but just how fast these track athletes are.
Like DK metcalf when he ran a few years ago
and ended up getting last in that race and there
was no premier runners in that race. Then you see
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the pole vaulter, Mondo de Plantis goes out and runs
a faster time than DK Metcalfe did in the hundred
as a pole vaulter. Right, it's crazy. But Dan, I know,
you gotta know you gotta let me go and you
gotta gotta move on. He's doing a great job at
your show. Can I tell one last story about Jaydon Daniels. Okay,
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they're playing the Bucks week one and they got blown out.
So Jane Daiels is a guy that I mentor and
I enjoy my conversations with him because of how dynamic
of a player he is, but how good of a
person he is as well. And if you remember, in
that game, late in the fourth quarter, he scored a
second rushing touchdown and he didn't celebrate, and I was
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talking to him about it, and for me, it was like,
that's all I needed to see to know where this
kid is going to go, because he's not focused on
anything else but winning, because winning is the standard. His
whole team wanted to celebrate the touchdown run, and he
waved him off, like, this is not what we're about.
And when I talk to him after that game, that's
what he said to me. The standard is winning. I'm
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not here for individual stats and individual accomplishments. Even though
it's really cool that his first touchdown passes to an
offensive lineman. Pretty awesome stuff, right, But I knew in
that moment that not only this kid is a star
and he's exactly what the Washington Commanders need, but I
truly believe that he can be the best quarterback the
Washington Commanders franchise has ever had. And I know that's
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a lot to say after just three games. But watching
him the way that he's processing his feeder and rhythm,
how he's not trying to do too much and he's
just taking what the defense gives him. That's a recipe
for long term success. And I'm very excited because Washington
deserves this. The fan base, the city, they deserve a
quarterback Daniels, and they've been through a lot over the years.
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So I'm very excited. That's why I got my Sean
Taylor Jersey on right now because this is this is
exactly what the city needed.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Great to talk to you, Good luck with the podcast
and thanks for joining us. Appreciate you man. RG three
or as mclvin once said, Robert Griffin Junior, the Third
and his podcast out of Pocket with RG three on
YouTube wherever you get your podcast back.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 2 (36:43):
Update the poll results. By the way, Jayden Daniels is
listed as the third quarterback since nineteen fifty to throw
their first career touchdown pass to an offensive lineman. Well,
I think it's he's the second quarterback because Chris Boswell.
This Dealers kicker through his first touchdown pass and that
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was to uh villin a Wava, So that doesn't count
as a quarterback. JP Lossman of Buffalo in five. JP
Lossman out of Tulane. We loved him, We love to
Jason Peters.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
JP lost.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Oh, he got a lot of love coming out into
the draft. I think because we loved Tulane uniforms. Maybe
that's what it was. Let's see. So RG three was good,
you know, breaking down some stuff sounds like he's in
love with Jayden Daniels and rightfully so. But uh now
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he's saying this isn't Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams. It is
for the rest of their careers.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It's c J.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Stroud, Bryce Young, It's Ryan Leaf, Peyton Manning. That's the
way it goes. It's uh Greg Odin, Kevin Durant goes
along with the territory. It's easy to you know, have
talk show hosts, you know, kind of give their take
on it. Everybody has an opinion on it. They're going
to be forever linked and it's usually one succeeds in
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one dozen. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
The last night's game put the Commanders into the B
segment category. Like you know when you're doing a show rundown,
not necessarily a segment team, but B segment.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Okay, we have a rundown. We had a rundown at
the Mothership. So you'd have the A block and then
you go to commercial break and then you come back.
You have the B block, and then you go to
break and then C block, and you know your top
stories are up there in the A block. I think
Jayden Daniels is in the A block. I think the
Commanders can be in the B block if that makes sense.
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If he as he goes and he's more successful, then
they're going to get more. And you're in Washington, DC.
So you're in a big market, a great tradition. There
a team that's been, a franchise that's been some of
them more embarrassing, well one of the most embarrassing franchises.
And now you have a chance. Now you have something
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there and having been there when Joe Thisman was the
quarterback and John Riggins, Dexter Manley, Art Monk, Gary Sanders,
Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, like I got to see Washington
that place at RFK, Rocked, Rocked, and it was great
to see covering some of those teams.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yes, Mark.
Speaker 8 (39:28):
Still one of the most impressive things is that the
team formerly known as the Redskins won three Super Bowls
with three different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah that is insane.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, yeah, Joe, thisman, Mark Rippen and Doug Williams correct that, right, Yeah,
Doug Williams loved Doug Williams. Trent in Virginia. Hey, Trent,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (39:53):
Adp Real good stuff there from Margie three earlier. But
as a Bears fan, just can't help but think whether
if Kingsbury's doing a better job putting Jade and Daniels
in a position to succeed than what the Bears offensive
coaching staff is. It kills me knowing the Bears interview Kingsbury.
I know I need to be patient, but that panic
meter is a little higher than I'd like you to be.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Thank you, You're not alone.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
It's you know, Bears fans want they want to they
want to have easy pass like let's just go. We
should be in the fast lane in the h V lane.
We what are we doing here? And it's not going
to be that easy, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Yeah, it was a rough weekend for Bears fans. The loss. Yeah,
Jane Daniels plays out of his mind.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Uh I think Mitch Trubisky had a completion last night,
just to throw that in there, justin Fields is three
and zero. And the fact that people are saying, you
know what, the great thing about Jade and Daniels, He
went to a better, more secure, more ready to win organization.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
The commanders are better than the Bears. Even in that Ouch.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Happy birthday, Oach Ouch, Happy birthday to Pauline. Let's go
Bear final hour. More phone calls coming up. Minister of Humor,
Fritzie Seat and Marv paul Yours truly