September 27, 2024 • 37 mins
Dan talks to former NFL QB Mark Sanchez about the Cowboys’ issues and how concerned their fans should be. Sports business insider Darren Rovell discusses the ownership dispute over Shohei Ohtani’s 50th homerun ball. MLB insider Bob Nightengale chimes in on the future of the A's after their final game in Oakland. And college football insider Andy Staples explains why he thinks Alabama will beat Georgia this weekend and weighs in on Matthew Sluka’s NIL contract dispute with UNLV and what it means for the future of the NCAA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Springing Mark Sanchez, Fox NFL analyst. He's in Chicago. He
is getting ready for the Rams and the Bears on
Fox on Sunday at one eastern. How would you answer
the pole question about the Cowboys being Super Bowl contenders?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I think it's way too early to tell. I think, uh, gosh,
we they didn't play well last night, as most of
these teams tend to do on Thursday. It's a short week.
Heem looked great, but they found a way to get
an ugly win. But I need to back up a second, Dan,
I'm sorry. Fritzy gets me on the show, says come
(00:43):
hang out, and he's a no show. You're down to
the Danette. Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You like the Rams, You're like the Rams? No Cooper cop.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I wouldn't put him in that category. I think it's
kind of like Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. I'm not
sure what I have or I don't have. So those
are my two guys that are missing in action. But
they're visiting family, so they have legitimate excuses. They just
happen to do it on the same day, all right,
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so I'm just curious about the Cowboys as they move forward.
I know we focus on them too much, but you
have Cede Lam and you have Dak. They don't have
a running game. They're not very good at stopping the run.
Their secondary continues to get banged up. And I'm looking
at the schedule the next six games they have, and
(01:36):
they're playing against six playoff contenders.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think because they have the talent on offense, the
score points, it's an offensive league, they're always going to
be competitive. I think what really hurt them, not necessarily
last night, but last Sunday. If you go back and
watch that Ravens game, they were so far out of
the game and then they started chasing points. It was
(02:03):
like a fourth and fourteen or something, and they went
for it when they were in field goal range. They
got a field goal kicker who's elite. I mean, this
dude can knock it from the locker room and make
it so you cross the fifty and you're already thinking alert.
We got three points potentially in the bag. So that's
going to keep them competitive. Plus, as you mentioned, the
(02:24):
Cowboys are always in the Super Bowl hunt unless they're
like zero to fifteen they're always you know, somebody we're
going to talk about. That's just who they are now.
So the biggest thing in this league, and we've talked
about this before, but these are one score games. One
score games in the fourth quarter, and if you can
keep it there, more games are lost and given away
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by the other team or mismanage clock, timeouts, you know,
time management stuff. Then they're actually one you know what
I mean. Sometimes you got to go down and v
s Antonio Holmes in the back of the end zone,
super Bowl and go win the game. When when that happens,
everybody's just firing on all cylinders. You know, you're kind
of throwing caution to the win and you're just throwing
the ball all over the yard. That's fine, it's desperation,
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you're trying to win. But these other games, for the
most part, you got to just keep it close. And
because they have the offensive firepower, I think they really
can go deep. It's just you're gonna need some help
on first down. You're gonna need some help with that
run game. Don't put Dak in third and ten. You know,
drive after drive, series after series.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And I don't know if you know the sample size
of the first three weeks, teams are running the football, oh,
no doubt. And I don't know. I mean, you've got
a game with the Rams and the Bears, and I
don't know if you know who's winning is going to
be predicated on running the football. But we're starting to
see and feels like, you know what, the safeties are
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playing so deep. I mean they did this to homes
that was the year.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Remember for seven weeks we're like, oh that was it.
Patrick flamed out. He's no good at aymon. You can't
dink and dunk. Well, he figured that out pretty quick,
you know what I mean. So you're one hundred percent right.
And if I can just go in that vein, you
have to tailor your system. In the old days, let's
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go quickly. I'd hand you a playbook. It's this thick. Hey,
run my system, and I'm gonna get the best players
I can to run that system. Now, these systems, you
want guys together over a long period of time, because
that original playbook is gonna evolve over time, it's gonna grow,
it's gonna change, it's gonna experience things and change with
the players. A core group of players that you try
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and keep together that can run certain things really well,
and then you get counters off of stuff, then you
get you know, the sizzle plays whatever. Well, these guys
in Los Angeles, Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford are in lockstep.
It is incredible to watch them play. He understands the
play caller's purpose as soon as it comes in the headset,
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and he's already anticipated what's coming next. They're so good together.
They for the first time since mcvay's been there, since
twenty seventeen whatever it is, ran twelve personnel, one back,
two tight ends, two wide receivers. Why Cooper's gone and
Pookah's gone. Those guys are such they're straight up gangsters
in the run game. They basically act like tight end,
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so they can run eleven, which is a three wide
receiver set, one back, one tight end. They've been used
to running eleven sets or eleven personnel sets and letting
those guys go in and dig out linebackers, safeties, whatever.
They didn't have that anymore. You can't do that with
two two out Well, that's not He's out of his
weight class trying to do that. So what do we
do keep those guys spread out bringing Hunter Long, a
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journeyman tight end from Boston College who is in Miami.
First now here, finally healthy, get some blocking, and Kolby Parkinson,
a guy who knows their system from Shane Waldron and
the Seattle Seahawks. They ran almost exclusively twelve last week
and won a game for the first time that they've
ever done that. So what I mean by these playbooks evolving,
that's a perfect example of tailoring your system to what
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you have and hanging around to the fourth quarter. The
week before in Arizona, the Rams got embarrassed, just flat
out embarrassed. They had run eleven ten offensive plays and
they were down twenty one points. Thing was just a
runaway train and they were left at the station chilling.
The next week, the Niners go fourteen to nothing. They
had only run three offensive plays. I called both games
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back to back, and I'm literally looking at Adam and
me and my partner, I go, oh boy, here we
go again. And then they make one special teams play.
They score right before halftime. They get the ball out
of the half like it just started to turn so fast,
and you could tell they learned the lesson from the
week before, not that they're perfect, but they learned the
lesson from the week before. Don't let this thing get
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away from us, hang around till the end, and with
somebody like Matt Stafford, Dak Prescott back to your Cowboys question,
you're gonna have a chance, but you gotta keep it
closed early. And these early games, these early games that
the Chiefs seem to win, that that the really good
teams later in the year like, oh, they got home
field advantage again. This is where you win home field
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advantage the first five six weeks of the season, bottom line,
that's where that's where it happens. How do you do that?
You stay close, keep it close, keep it a one
score game till the fourth quarter, and then take your shot.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Talking to Mark Sanchez, he's in Chicago preparing to call
the Rams Bears. That'll be kick off one Eastern. If
you have your hair in a bun, I do turn around.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So we said, I look like they got when I
parted like real hard. Kay Adams the other day said
I look like Colin Crisp, remember kindergarten cop, the bad
guy just crushed me.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, congratulations, you could wear your hair in a.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Bun, thanks sir. Yeah, I was going for more of
it like an Antonio Bandette.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, it didn't really work.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It didn't really work. Yeah, talk about your all time backfires.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
If I'm a Bears fan and I'm seeing Caleb Williams, yeah,
what kind of feeling should I have so far with
what you've seen of him?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Listen, it's a work in progress. The first thing I
said his very first game in the league is patience,
and nobody seems to have that, regardless of what we're
talking about in the world. I don't care if it's politics, sports, finan,
it like, it doesn't matter. Everybody wants it and they
want instant grits. That's not the way you develop a quarterback.
That's not the way this league works. So are there
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a couple quick fixes that can really help him out? Absolutely?
I think they can help him on first down running
the ball. We talked about teams running the ball. They're
not running the ball well. Bottom line, I think DeAndre
Swift is a great complimentary back. I think he's he
can be the guy who comes in and gives you
more of a spark. But Khalil Herbert and Roshawan Johnson
(08:59):
have to be there. Their main powerbacks They love to
run this outside zone because it's a Shane Waldron system.
And if you can run outside zone, you have athletic
enough tackles and guards that can move and get on
the move quickly. So you can't tell me these guys
can't hold up in the past game. They should be
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able to slide and move, which they like to do
in their protections all the time. The problem is they
have more pre snap penalties then. I mean, just about
anybody I've seen there, you know, first and fifteen. I
don't want to see first and fifteen. If I see
first in fifteen once in four games, that's too many times.
You know what I mean as a coordinator, And I'm
being critical obviously, but you put your your rookie quarterback
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behind the eight ball like that to start off drives.
It's just like a pitcher going you know, three to zero.
I mean, what do you think they expect on third
and fifteen? And then because he's so competitive, because he's
so talented, on third and fifteen backed up in his
own area. Yeah, I can make this throw. And dude,
if anybody knows what the guy's going through, it's your
(10:04):
boy in a bun here are you kidding me. I've
done the exact same thing thirty times, like easily thirty times,
and I got it. I can make it. I can
make dude dump it to the back. Cut bait. Move
on with your life. Your job is to put the
ball in play and put it on the defense. Make
them tackle. Just see what happens. Even like, think about this.
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He's had five turnovers in the last two games. Okay,
they've lost both of those games. The first game he
had no turnovers, did not play well, but they won
the game. If you don't give it away. Once again,
more games are given away than they are one. If
you don't give it away, Caleb, your boys are going
to be in a chance. You're gonna have a chance
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to win this thing. And they kept it a six
point game for the bulk of the game against Houston
two weeks ago. We're in it to win it, baby.
They had a chance and they couldn't get anything going
on off. Okay, then give it away. Just don't give
it to him. Let your guys at least have a chance.
And I think that's that's what they're still working through.
Caleb's still working through some of that, and I think
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they have They're in a difficult position because he is
so talented and so good. You don't want to take
it away from him. You want him to develop, you
want him to understand the game, but you also don't
need him to be Superman all the time. And he's
still you know, battling with that. He's wrestling with when
(11:30):
it's time to turn it on, when it's time to
make the throw, and when it's time to just hang back,
distribute and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Is it fair as we move forward that Caleb is
always going to be compared to Jaden Daniels and vice versa.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, of course, And I mean as soon as one
one one player type, like you know, rookie quarterback and
you're going to compare the guy's new system. You know,
franchise that's been struggling. Oh it's this same thing. Well,
it's not totally the same thing. The thing that's different
about Jayden Well, one, you know, I'm not trying to
(12:06):
be Debbie Downer. He had an incredible game last week
National TV against a Cincinnati defense. It's not playing very well,
so okay, call what you want. He got out of
trouble a lot with his legs. The dude has elite speed.
We watched him at LSU pull away from really fast
defenders and just take off for seventy yards. So that
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I mean, that's a little something. That's something that Caleb
doesn't quite have. He doesn't have that like Jaden has
like a step on him that way, if that makes sense.
So he's gonna get out of some trouble. And that's
where Caleb might make one of those throws that goes
the other way, the old boomerang ball, right, you throw
it one way and there goes back the other way.
So for Jaden, listen, I don't want to I don't
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want to anoint the guy too early, and I don't
want to say he didn't play well. He did play well,
but is that going to be your sustainable way to play.
He's got a rush for one hundred yards like every week.
That's really really hard to do. So yes, Unfortunately, he
will be compared to those guys just like me and
Matt Stafford were in two thousand and nine. Joe flackol
Matt Ryan rookie quarterbacks in two thousand and eight make
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the playoffs. Me and Matt Stafford were like, well they
did it. You got to do it, but their teams
weren't good last year. You should Whether that's fair or not,
it doesn't matter. But you sign up for everything when
you play this position.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He's a man in a bun. He's a man in
his hotel room in Chicago, and he'll be in the
booth on Sunday at one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Wait, wait, are you going to be in that new
series Chad Powers.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
By the way, I haven't been asked to be. Oh
what yeah, okay?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Wi. My wife sent it and she's all fired up
and I told her I was going to be on
Dan Patrick and she goes, wait, I thought he was
going to be in the show.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So I'm gonna be in Happy Gilmore two.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
When does that come out?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, we're shooting it now. Samer's shooting it now in
New Jersey. But I haven't haven't gotten my u my
script yet.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Okay, yeah, I'm fired up for that. That's great.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, But who's the star in Chad Powers?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
The Glen Powell?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh yeah, Glenn Powell.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Steve's on and Perry Mattfeld, Perry Sanchez. We're working on
her changing the last name, you.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Know, but you don't worry about her on set with
Glenn Powell.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Do you sorry my connection? You can't?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Really you don't worry about that, do you?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm driving through the canon. Can't hear about.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Your Your wife's on set with Glenn single?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Can't hearty Fritz? Hello, Hello, No need to worry.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That never happens on a movie set. Mark, where somebody
you knows? Thank you, Mark. That's Mark Sanchow. What damn,
I've been on a movie set before we got to Mark.
(15:03):
You play with your bun, Mark Sanchez. I'm just saying,
been on a set. I'm staring Jennifer Aniston in the
eyes and vice versa. Things happen, Marks are flying, Yes,
they are. Ye, things happen when you're on this set.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
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Speaker 2 (15:29):
Darren Ravel, founder of collect He's been following the show.
Heyo Tani fiftieth home run ball and it was up
for auction, going to auction, then maybe it was not,
and mail maybe it's back. So Darren Revel joining us
on the program to update us. Where do we stand
with show? Heyo Tani home run ball number fifty going
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to auction.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Dan, we are one hour and thirteen minutes away from
the auction starting. What happened was last Thursday. I think
a lot of people, like historiques came so quick that
I think a lot of people didn't know, Like people
were not going to the game to watch the fifty
to fifty happen right day game Marlins, They're getting ready
(16:14):
to go to Dodger Stadium for a six game homestand
he's not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
He wouldn't even do he won't, he's not even gonna try.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
So I don't think fans were ready. And obviously he
hits a home run in the sixth say's forty nine.
And then he hits a home run in the seventh,
he's stolen two bases, so it became fifty to fifty.
I don't think everyone when that went into the left field,
I didn't. I don't think a lot of people really
were aware. You know, when you're at a game, you
don't know. So it goes in, guy has a chance
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to catch it, Missus falls down. Guy comes across, looks
like he has it, and then there's kind of a
scrum with him and a kid, and he picks it
up and he holds it and then he goes away
and it's his ball. But soon after the kid said
I had it and he wrestled it out. Now this
might be a little bit too long, but it's really good,
(17:05):
so you'll have to cut a commercial.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Ah, Okay. So in two thousand and.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
One, when I was covering the Barry Bonds home run story,
where for well two thousand and one it was seventy
three the seventy three, one guy caught it. There was
then a scrum and another guy picked it up. The
court ruled that both of them had possession and both
of them owned it because the guy who wound up
(17:29):
with it didn't assault the guy who caught it, he
didn't touch him. There was a scrum, he lost it technically,
and then he had it. So you have two owners here.
It's hard to say there's two owners. There's one guy
who caught it or one guy who had it originally.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
And there's one guy who stole it.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
This kid, eighteen year old kid turned eighteen on fifty
to fifty on that day, went to the courthouse, fought
in the lawsuit, says it's mine tried to get a
temporary restraining order yesterday. They said no, the auction can
go ahead, but you cannot actually sell the ball until
we meet in court and see if there's a trial here.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well wait a minute, so it's gone to auction. You
can you can buy it.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
You cannot buy it immediately. So the auctioneer originally said,
if you want this for four point five million dollars,
you can buy it immediately. The court said you can't
buy it now. You can bid on it, and you
can bid on it until the auction closes on October sixteenth.
The next hearing is October tenth, so we'll take all
the bids. October tenth, we'll talk about whether this goes
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to trial or not. So I think that they made
the right decision here because the longer you take, the
less valuable it is. So it's better for both for
both parties to get this thing going. I don't think
he's doing sixty sixty, but I'm just saying it's top
of mind.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Bidding starts at twelve noon. No no money wise.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Five hundred thousand dollars, which means with the buyers premium,
which is the extra cost you have to pay it's
six hundred and ten thousand dollars, So with the first
bid it'll be the sixth most valuable home run ball
ever behind McGuire seventy. So that was three million, the
judge sixty two one point five million. There was a
Babe Ruth nineteen thirty three All Star home run eight
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hundred five thousand, missing one. But then there's Hank Aaron's
final home run ball that's over six und fifty thousand.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
So with one bid, this is the sixth most valuable
home run ball of all time.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What's McGuire's home run ball worth?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Probably one hundred fifty grand one, that's over three million.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Will I will say this though, Todd McFarlane bought a
bunch of those balls for five million dollars. He got
twenty five million in publicity, and he would have got
one hundred million if it was in the social media.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Era, so let's write off those costs.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
He was doing the spawn thing, he was getting into
figurines and sports figurines, so I think he got his
money's worth.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
What's Bond's ballworth? Now?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
You know, I don't know that that yeah, that that
ball actually that's the one I missed that ball went
for I think like seven hundred and seventy thousand.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Oh, you're talking about the seventy.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Three or the seventy six seventy three. So the story with.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
The seventy three is these guys fought for three years
and it was probably worth a million dollars when they started.
At the end it sold for two hundred twenty five thousand,
and then they had to split it. Oh so it
was two twenty five back then. I don't think a
lot of people are buying it, but those guys probably
had a net loss when you consider all their layeraphies.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us. Darren.
That's Darren Ravelle, founder of collect cl LCT, and he'll
be following that auction.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
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Speaker 2 (21:04):
We bring in Bob Nightingale, USA Today Baseball columnist. How
did we get to this point, Bob, where Oakland is
losing their a's to Las Vegas?
Speaker 7 (21:16):
What's been going on about twenty years?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
I mean they've been trying to get a new ballpark
since two thousand and five, every sent John Fisher bought
the team with lou Wolf, and they wanted to go
to San Jose. The Giants blocked them, tried five different places, nothing,
nothing worked, and finally these surrendered say, you know what,
we're done. We're going to Las Vegas. So it's too bad.
(21:39):
I meant the crowd they got yesterday, the crowd they
got this past homestand and if that was going on
all along, they never were left.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What kind of stadium are they going to move into
in Vegas in a couple of years, you'll be we.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Talked about one, you know, uh, you know glass, let's
you know, let's let's see clamorous everything you want. But
you know, next three years, I mean Sacramento in marri
League Ballpark, so it'd be a little tough to attract
some pre agents in that place. But Vegas, we'll see
how it works. I still have my doubts, you know,
in Phoenix, where I live, it's the fifth largest state
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in the country, and they have they struggle to make
it work. I don't know, Dama's going to fly in
the Vegas in the summertime and want to go to
a baseball game.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering about.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I think if you made it more of an intimate
stadium like thirty five thousand had a retractable roof there.
But I don't know what the baseball climate is going
to be. Well, I should say the baseball fan climate
is going to be for a team that Oakland, you know,
didn't really support, and now Vegas is going to be
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diehard Oakland A's fans.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I don't see either. I mean the Raiders it works,
of course, playing you know, nine home games, but to
play eightium one, I don't know. I don't see it.
I mean the diehard A's fans will follow them up
to Sacramento about hour and a half two hour drive,
but they're not going to fall into Las Vegas. And
you know, even guys like Bryce Harper or Las Vegas native,
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said I don't think it's going to work. Expansion team
will work, but not somebody else's rejects.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm just wondering about. That that you
have this is it two years in Sacramento or three years?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
A minimum of three, so three for sure, and the
dam's not ready. It could be four, but yeah, minimum
three years.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What role did the commissioner play in this happening.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
It really kind of started under buds ceiling. Remember when
they gained the team to John Fish and Lou Wolf.
Lou Wolf was Bud's attorney brother at University of Wisconsin,
and so he's supposed to get some kind of favor.
Remember now, that area San Jose and all that used
to belong to the A's. They gave it to the
Giants saying, you know what, we don't want you to
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move to Tampa Bay. Here, will help help you out here.
And Giants never give it back. So they fell along. Okay,
we'll be allowed to move to Fremont, San Jose, something
like that. So the Giants have been very complicit this
whole thing. Now they got the entire northern California to themselves.
That thing's going be a gor mine.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But could the commissioner see, I know he wants new
business and everybody wants to be in Vegas, but I
just I think the relocation fee didn't he waive that?
So that to me, you know, he was ready to
put them in the hov lane and send them to Vegas.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
He was, You're right, I mean what he did was say,
you know what, I'm tired of it. We've given Oakland
twenty years to figure this out. They haven't figured out.
I'm done with it. Wherever you guys want to go,
go ahead, and you know, Vegas stepped up. They're gonna
give Hi about three hundred and fifty million dollars in public funding.
And uh yeah, I mean everybody blames John Fisher, but
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you know, like Dave Stewart said, Ricky Anderson said, blames
to go all around, like the age of the first
team to leave that place, just the last team, last
team to leave, you know, with the Warriors Raiders volting
before them.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Have you run out of ways to describe I have?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I mean, it's unbelievable, you know, I think I do
think some people will get carried away. The fifty to
fifties very cool, but with the new rules, was you know,
chilling bases and you know the pickoff throws me. Ricky
Henderson probably stole two hundred bases. But unbelievable year. But
I do think Dan, after what we've seen, how long
is this guy going to pitch? He'll pitch next year,
(25:37):
how much longer? I think he loves hitting. I think
he only pitches because he knows he can do it.
I don't see him pitching, you know, much longer than
a couple of years. I think hitting is just you know,
too valuable.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, because he's not going to put up these numbers
if he was pitching.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
And no, he's sortaly not going to run the bases
like this, even if Dave Roberts said, you're not going
to sacrifice your body and do all that when you
still have to bitch every five days. So yeah, we
may never see this offen some season again by him
until he stops vision.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Good to talk to you, Bob, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
No pleasant, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's Bob Nightingale, USA Today Baseball columnists there.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
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Speaker 2 (26:29):
Andy Staples, our good buddy, covers college football for on
three Sports. He has recently attended the Miami Florida game, Texas, Michigan, Alabama, Wisconsin.
Andy joins us on the program for some reason. Now,
I'm excited about Fresno State and UNLV. What do you
think there?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Andy?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I wonder how many people knew this game was happening,
knew what time it was happening to what channel it
was going to be on before you and these quarterback
decided to dip out in the middle of the week.
This week, as his three and oh team prepares for
its conference opener, Dan, It's one of the strangest things
I've ever seen. We kind of knew something like this
was going to happen eventually. Still when it came is like, WHOA,
(27:13):
what he's done? That's it?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Okay, But how did we get here? With a player
leaves holy Cross, he says he's promised one hundred thousand
dollars by an assistant coach. There's no paper trail. You're
not supposed to entice a recruit with money if you're
on the coaching staff. The collection, No you can now,
oh you can, okay. So he said that he didn't
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entice him with money, So I like, how do you
prove any of this?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You don't just press That's the craziest part. And so
one of the things when when all these nil deals
blow up, When when there's a bad nil deal that
blows up, you can usually find blame on every side.
You can usually find a lot of stupidity everywhere and
in this particular case. So if you have an assistant
coach promising X dollars, the family needs to understand. But
more importantly, the agent representing the family, who works for
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a big agency by the way, needs to understand, well,
the coach is not exactly authorized to do that because
he's not the one who'd be paying it. The collective
is who's paying it. So if that dollar figure is
thrown out there, the first call you should make is
to the collective to say, hey, is this money here?
Because is this accurate? Because because if it is, we
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have a lot to talk about. But they didn't do that.
And like you heard the agent's boss say, well, he
wasn't allowed to sign a contract with the collective before
he enrolled. Okay, apparently the entire agency missed the giant
federal case earlier this year that got the NIL rules scrapped,
where yeah, you can sign a contract with a collective
(28:50):
before you enroll. So they absolutely could have signed a contract.
They didn't start negotiating until August though. And what's interesting
about this, though, is given you and LV situation where
they're three and zero, they've beaten two big twelve teams.
They have Syracuse next week. They could easily win the
Mountain West and be a playoff team if they do it.
(29:11):
Did all this well, if it's that important to you,
you can come up with the money. And in fact,
I think there was a casino owner who did pledge
the money if they needed to do it.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
And.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
They decided not to, which leads me to believe that
they didn't necessarily think Matthew Sluka was that critical to
this run. They have a guy named Hodjabaligue Williams who
transferred in from the fighting Campbell University Camels in North Carolina.
He was with the starters for all the spring, all
the summer, and I think they feel pretty comfortable with him.
(29:45):
We'll find out during the game against Presno State on
Saturday whether they're just blowing smoke here or if that's
the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All right, let's recamp here. So if I'm going to
a university, the assistant coach says, hey, eight hundred thousand dollars,
if you want to come here, I then say, put
me in touch with a collective. Let's put it in writing. Yep,
so you can do that. That's all you do that?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Now you couldn't do that, and so when they were
engaged in January, you probably couldn't do that. But by
March you could. And this guy was still at Holy
Cross in March. He could have done this at any
point before he ended up going to UNLV.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Andy Staples covers college football for on three Sports. You
got the big show down with Alabama and Georgia, And
this is a perception game for me with Alabama, Kaitlin
de Boor, because now, if you beat Kirby Smart, you
beat Georgia Jalen Milroe if he would happen, you know this,
The perception is Alabama. Okay, we now know why they
(30:47):
got that guy, Jalen Milroe. We now know that he's
a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. How do you think this
game plays out?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Though?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
So I have said all week on my show that
I think Alabama's gonna win this game, that I think
this is gonna be the one where we se Jalen
Molrose Heisman moment. I got a phone call yesterday from
somebody who talked to some coaches who played some of
these teams, and they're like, you know you're wrong about this.
George is gonna come in there and smash them. I'm like, no, no,
I have faith here. I do think Alabama is insanely talented.
(31:19):
I think Alabama probably the second most talented roster in
America behind Ohio State right now. And Georgia has a
very talented roster too. Like if Georgia, if Alabama's two,
George is probably three. But I think Alabama's built really
well this season. We've seen them struggle for three quarters
exactly against USF and that was when both their starting
offensive tackles were out. Both of their starting offensive tackles
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played against Wisconsin. They looked amazing. They're going to be
playing in this game. George is still recovering from losing
its best offensive lineman to injury. I think Alabama wins
this game.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Comfortably.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
No, no, there are no comfortable games against Kirby Smart's
Georgia Dan. I had a trivia question to get asked
in my mailbag the other.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Day, but it is in. George is favored in this game, right.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yes, a road favorite at Alabama, which is unheard of.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
When's the last time that happened?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It was a long time trying to remember there was
a Georgia Alabama game during the mark rickt Era, where
I think Georgia might have been favored in Alabama just
absolutely smashed him. Now, I don't think anybody's getting smashed
in this game one way or the other. I think
this is going to be a very close game. I'm
really excited to see it. My fear for Georgia dan
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is we have not really seen who scares you down
the field for them. Last year was Lad McConaughey and
Brock Bowers. This year, there's not really been that person.
And like Alabama, I can tell you exactly who it is.
It's Ryan Williams, who you're gonna hear on the broadcast
fifty times. That he's seventeen years old makes it no
less amazing every time.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Other game that we should can't. How about upset alert,
how about Louisville against Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
It's crazy we're even talking about it like it would
be an upset. Now it's a pretty close point spread.
I think it's four and a half. Notre Dame favored.
Louisville crushed Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Last year crushed him.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Now this is at Notre Dame instead of at Louisville,
and obviously the teams are a little different because of what
happened out of the transfer portal. But Jeff Brahm has
done a really good job at Louisville and that was
a program that really retooled its roster through the portal
this year, and in fact, you haven't even seen it
at full strength yet because they have a receiver named
Colin Lacey from South Alabama who's been hurt and we
don't even know if he's gonna play in this game either.
(33:30):
But you got Tyler Shook at quarterback, who was one
of those five star guys was at Oregon, it never worked.
He goes to Texas Tech, he was never healthy. Well
he's healthy now and maybe he fulfills all that promise.
I think Louisville probably has the better QB in this matchup.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Really, Okay, I've got Louisville getting seven against Notre Dame
this according.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
To early in the week, it was four and a half.
So yeah, the public disagrees with me, but I appreciate
that because I got in on a Louisville at four
and a half, because I've picked Louisville cover.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
How do you think morale is at USC?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Well, the bar Alexander leaving situation, I think is one
of the deals. So Bar Alexander, for those who don't know,
defensive tackle who transferred from Georgia, was considered a huge
get at the time, but he's been kind of an issue,
threatened to leave in the spring, isn't playing as much
as he wanted to, and now he's leaving. I don't
think that's going to be a big problem for USC.
I think the bigger thing is just figure out, Okay,
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how did we get beat by Michigan when we knew
they couldn't throw the ball. I still think that USC
is in a better place than they were the last
couple of years because I think Lincoln Riley it feels
to me like he has decided defense actually matters. They
are practicing in a way that defense matters. You see
them making open field tackles. Did they get beat in
(34:53):
the Michigan game?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Are they going to play an offensive line as good
as Michigan, a back as good as Coloe Mullings the
rest of their schedule? Probably not. So I do think
that they're going to be okay. Are they going to
beat Penn State? Are they going to win the Big Ten? No?
I don't think they're gonna do that, but they're going
to get better, and I think if you build on that,
you got something.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Before I let you go. We brought this up yesterday.
Could you see a scenario where team qualifies for the playoffs?
Star player says, I'd like to get more money.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh yeah, Oh that's the whole thing. Oh I thought
they were leaving or yo. Yeah, I mean that happens now, Dan,
That happened all year last year at various teams. So yeah,
you're a free agent every day in the system and time.
The only way they can make that stop is find
a way to make the players employees, get them unionize,
(35:53):
and bargain a CBA with them. But here's the thing,
this is the part that people don't understand. It's never
going to get better than it is now for players.
If I'm a player, I'm like, I don't want to
be in a union, I don't want a CBA. Let's
just keep this money coming. Because right now, there's nothing
the schools can do that won't get them sued and
that they won't lose in court. They can't make rules
(36:16):
that won't get knocked down by the courts. So if
I'm a player, I'm like, let's go. However, just bring
it on.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Now.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I do think there are negative consequences for that sort
of thing what you just said, Like, if I'm an
NFLGM and I see that, I don't want that player
on my team, I don't want that player anywhere near
my team. And I think that that hopefully is one
of the negative incentives that that stops people from doing
something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, but we had Christian McCaffery and Leonard Fornatt Fournette
not playing in a bowl game. When they're like, oh
my god, what's that going to do to their draft stock?
It did nothing to their drafts that that was a
bowl game that was there was no championship on the line.
So that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And I think, and I may be wrong, I may
be being too idealistic about this. It may be that
they are, Hey, you're you're a businessman, we run a business.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
But I just I think that would be problematic for
me because at that point you've gotten most of the
way you've got to. We're talking about playoff teams, so
we're probably talking about big time schools where they're getting
pretty big money deals like it would take a lot
of cojones for somebody to try to pull that.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Have a good week on Andy. Thanks for joining us.
As always, thank you Dan,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Springing Mark Sanchez, Fox NFL analyst. He's in Chicago. He
is getting ready for the Rams and the Bears on
Fox on Sunday at one eastern. How would you answer
the pole question about the Cowboys being Super Bowl contenders?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I think it's way too early to tell. I think, uh, gosh,
we they didn't play well last night, as most of
these teams tend to do on Thursday. It's a short week.
Heem looked great, but they found a way to get
an ugly win. But I need to back up a second, Dan,
I'm sorry. Fritzy gets me on the show, says come
(00:43):
hang out, and he's a no show. You're down to
the Danette. Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You like the Rams, You're like the Rams? No Cooper cop.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I wouldn't put him in that category. I think it's
kind of like Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. I'm not
sure what I have or I don't have. So those
are my two guys that are missing in action. But
they're visiting family, so they have legitimate excuses. They just
happen to do it on the same day, all right,
(01:15):
so I'm just curious about the Cowboys as they move forward.
I know we focus on them too much, but you
have Cede Lam and you have Dak. They don't have
a running game. They're not very good at stopping the run.
Their secondary continues to get banged up. And I'm looking
at the schedule the next six games they have, and
(01:36):
they're playing against six playoff contenders.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I think because they have the talent on offense, the
score points, it's an offensive league, they're always going to
be competitive. I think what really hurt them, not necessarily
last night, but last Sunday. If you go back and
watch that Ravens game, they were so far out of
the game and then they started chasing points. It was
(02:03):
like a fourth and fourteen or something, and they went
for it when they were in field goal range. They
got a field goal kicker who's elite. I mean, this
dude can knock it from the locker room and make
it so you cross the fifty and you're already thinking alert.
We got three points potentially in the bag. So that's
going to keep them competitive. Plus, as you mentioned, the
(02:24):
Cowboys are always in the Super Bowl hunt unless they're
like zero to fifteen they're always you know, somebody we're
going to talk about. That's just who they are now.
So the biggest thing in this league, and we've talked
about this before, but these are one score games. One
score games in the fourth quarter, and if you can
keep it there, more games are lost and given away
(02:45):
by the other team or mismanage clock, timeouts, you know,
time management stuff. Then they're actually one you know what
I mean. Sometimes you got to go down and v
s Antonio Holmes in the back of the end zone,
super Bowl and go win the game. When when that happens,
everybody's just firing on all cylinders. You know, you're kind
of throwing caution to the win and you're just throwing
the ball all over the yard. That's fine, it's desperation,
(03:09):
you're trying to win. But these other games, for the
most part, you got to just keep it close. And
because they have the offensive firepower, I think they really
can go deep. It's just you're gonna need some help
on first down. You're gonna need some help with that
run game. Don't put Dak in third and ten. You know,
drive after drive, series after series.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And I don't know if you know the sample size
of the first three weeks, teams are running the football, oh,
no doubt. And I don't know. I mean, you've got
a game with the Rams and the Bears, and I
don't know if you know who's winning is going to
be predicated on running the football. But we're starting to
see and feels like, you know what, the safeties are
(03:49):
playing so deep. I mean they did this to homes
that was the year.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Remember for seven weeks we're like, oh that was it.
Patrick flamed out. He's no good at aymon. You can't
dink and dunk. Well, he figured that out pretty quick,
you know what I mean. So you're one hundred percent right.
And if I can just go in that vein, you
have to tailor your system. In the old days, let's
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go quickly. I'd hand you a playbook. It's this thick. Hey,
run my system, and I'm gonna get the best players
I can to run that system. Now, these systems, you
want guys together over a long period of time, because
that original playbook is gonna evolve over time, it's gonna grow,
it's gonna change, it's gonna experience things and change with
the players. A core group of players that you try
(04:36):
and keep together that can run certain things really well,
and then you get counters off of stuff, then you
get you know, the sizzle plays whatever. Well, these guys
in Los Angeles, Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford are in lockstep.
It is incredible to watch them play. He understands the
play caller's purpose as soon as it comes in the headset,
(04:58):
and he's already anticipated what's coming next. They're so good together.
They for the first time since mcvay's been there, since
twenty seventeen whatever it is, ran twelve personnel, one back,
two tight ends, two wide receivers. Why Cooper's gone and
Pookah's gone. Those guys are such they're straight up gangsters
in the run game. They basically act like tight end,
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so they can run eleven, which is a three wide
receiver set, one back, one tight end. They've been used
to running eleven sets or eleven personnel sets and letting
those guys go in and dig out linebackers, safeties, whatever.
They didn't have that anymore. You can't do that with
two two out Well, that's not He's out of his
weight class trying to do that. So what do we
do keep those guys spread out bringing Hunter Long, a
(05:43):
journeyman tight end from Boston College who is in Miami.
First now here, finally healthy, get some blocking, and Kolby Parkinson,
a guy who knows their system from Shane Waldron and
the Seattle Seahawks. They ran almost exclusively twelve last week
and won a game for the first time that they've
ever done that. So what I mean by these playbooks evolving,
that's a perfect example of tailoring your system to what
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you have and hanging around to the fourth quarter. The
week before in Arizona, the Rams got embarrassed, just flat
out embarrassed. They had run eleven ten offensive plays and
they were down twenty one points. Thing was just a
runaway train and they were left at the station chilling.
The next week, the Niners go fourteen to nothing. They
had only run three offensive plays. I called both games
(06:30):
back to back, and I'm literally looking at Adam and
me and my partner, I go, oh boy, here we
go again. And then they make one special teams play.
They score right before halftime. They get the ball out
of the half like it just started to turn so fast,
and you could tell they learned the lesson from the
week before, not that they're perfect, but they learned the
lesson from the week before. Don't let this thing get
(06:50):
away from us, hang around till the end, and with
somebody like Matt Stafford, Dak Prescott back to your Cowboys question,
you're gonna have a chance, but you gotta keep it
closed early. And these early games, these early games that
the Chiefs seem to win, that that the really good
teams later in the year like, oh, they got home
field advantage again. This is where you win home field
(07:11):
advantage the first five six weeks of the season, bottom line,
that's where that's where it happens. How do you do that?
You stay close, keep it close, keep it a one
score game till the fourth quarter, and then take your shot.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Talking to Mark Sanchez, he's in Chicago preparing to call
the Rams Bears. That'll be kick off one Eastern. If
you have your hair in a bun, I do turn around.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So we said, I look like they got when I
parted like real hard. Kay Adams the other day said
I look like Colin Crisp, remember kindergarten cop, the bad
guy just crushed me.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, congratulations, you could wear your hair in a.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Bun, thanks sir. Yeah, I was going for more of
it like an Antonio Bandette.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, it didn't really work.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It didn't really work. Yeah, talk about your all time backfires.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
If I'm a Bears fan and I'm seeing Caleb Williams, yeah,
what kind of feeling should I have so far with
what you've seen of him?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Listen, it's a work in progress. The first thing I
said his very first game in the league is patience,
and nobody seems to have that, regardless of what we're
talking about in the world. I don't care if it's politics, sports, finan,
it like, it doesn't matter. Everybody wants it and they
want instant grits. That's not the way you develop a quarterback.
That's not the way this league works. So are there
(08:37):
a couple quick fixes that can really help him out? Absolutely?
I think they can help him on first down running
the ball. We talked about teams running the ball. They're
not running the ball well. Bottom line, I think DeAndre
Swift is a great complimentary back. I think he's he
can be the guy who comes in and gives you
more of a spark. But Khalil Herbert and Roshawan Johnson
(08:59):
have to be there. Their main powerbacks They love to
run this outside zone because it's a Shane Waldron system.
And if you can run outside zone, you have athletic
enough tackles and guards that can move and get on
the move quickly. So you can't tell me these guys
can't hold up in the past game. They should be
(09:19):
able to slide and move, which they like to do
in their protections all the time. The problem is they
have more pre snap penalties then. I mean, just about
anybody I've seen there, you know, first and fifteen. I
don't want to see first and fifteen. If I see
first in fifteen once in four games, that's too many times.
You know what I mean as a coordinator, And I'm
being critical obviously, but you put your your rookie quarterback
(09:43):
behind the eight ball like that to start off drives.
It's just like a pitcher going you know, three to zero.
I mean, what do you think they expect on third
and fifteen? And then because he's so competitive, because he's
so talented, on third and fifteen backed up in his
own area. Yeah, I can make this throw. And dude,
if anybody knows what the guy's going through, it's your
(10:04):
boy in a bun here are you kidding me. I've
done the exact same thing thirty times, like easily thirty times,
and I got it. I can make it. I can
make dude dump it to the back. Cut bait. Move
on with your life. Your job is to put the
ball in play and put it on the defense. Make
them tackle. Just see what happens. Even like, think about this.
(10:27):
He's had five turnovers in the last two games. Okay,
they've lost both of those games. The first game he
had no turnovers, did not play well, but they won
the game. If you don't give it away. Once again,
more games are given away than they are one. If
you don't give it away, Caleb, your boys are going
to be in a chance. You're gonna have a chance
(10:48):
to win this thing. And they kept it a six
point game for the bulk of the game against Houston
two weeks ago. We're in it to win it, baby.
They had a chance and they couldn't get anything going
on off. Okay, then give it away. Just don't give
it to him. Let your guys at least have a chance.
And I think that's that's what they're still working through.
Caleb's still working through some of that, and I think
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they have They're in a difficult position because he is
so talented and so good. You don't want to take
it away from him. You want him to develop, you
want him to understand the game, but you also don't
need him to be Superman all the time. And he's
still you know, battling with that. He's wrestling with when
(11:30):
it's time to turn it on, when it's time to
make the throw, and when it's time to just hang back,
distribute and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Is it fair as we move forward that Caleb is
always going to be compared to Jaden Daniels and vice versa.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, of course, And I mean as soon as one
one one player type, like you know, rookie quarterback and
you're going to compare the guy's new system. You know,
franchise that's been struggling. Oh it's this same thing. Well,
it's not totally the same thing. The thing that's different
about Jayden Well, one, you know, I'm not trying to
(12:06):
be Debbie Downer. He had an incredible game last week
National TV against a Cincinnati defense. It's not playing very well,
so okay, call what you want. He got out of
trouble a lot with his legs. The dude has elite speed.
We watched him at LSU pull away from really fast
defenders and just take off for seventy yards. So that
(12:30):
I mean, that's a little something. That's something that Caleb
doesn't quite have. He doesn't have that like Jaden has
like a step on him that way, if that makes sense.
So he's gonna get out of some trouble. And that's
where Caleb might make one of those throws that goes
the other way, the old boomerang ball, right, you throw
it one way and there goes back the other way.
So for Jaden, listen, I don't want to I don't
(12:52):
want to anoint the guy too early, and I don't
want to say he didn't play well. He did play well,
but is that going to be your sustainable way to play.
He's got a rush for one hundred yards like every week.
That's really really hard to do. So yes, Unfortunately, he
will be compared to those guys just like me and
Matt Stafford were in two thousand and nine. Joe flackol
Matt Ryan rookie quarterbacks in two thousand and eight make
(13:14):
the playoffs. Me and Matt Stafford were like, well they
did it. You got to do it, but their teams
weren't good last year. You should Whether that's fair or not,
it doesn't matter. But you sign up for everything when
you play this position.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He's a man in a bun. He's a man in
his hotel room in Chicago, and he'll be in the
booth on Sunday at one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Wait, wait, are you going to be in that new
series Chad Powers.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
By the way, I haven't been asked to be. Oh
what yeah, okay?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Wi. My wife sent it and she's all fired up
and I told her I was going to be on
Dan Patrick and she goes, wait, I thought he was
going to be in the show.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So I'm gonna be in Happy Gilmore two.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
When does that come out?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, we're shooting it now. Samer's shooting it now in
New Jersey. But I haven't haven't gotten my u my
script yet.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Okay, yeah, I'm fired up for that. That's great.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, But who's the star in Chad Powers?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
The Glen Powell?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh yeah, Glenn Powell.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Steve's on and Perry Mattfeld, Perry Sanchez. We're working on
her changing the last name, you.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Know, but you don't worry about her on set with
Glenn Powell.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Do you sorry my connection? You can't?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Really you don't worry about that, do you?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm driving through the canon. Can't hear about.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Your Your wife's on set with Glenn single?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Can't hearty Fritz? Hello, Hello, No need to worry.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That never happens on a movie set. Mark, where somebody
you knows? Thank you, Mark. That's Mark Sanchow. What damn,
I've been on a movie set before we got to Mark.
(15:03):
You play with your bun, Mark Sanchez. I'm just saying,
been on a set. I'm staring Jennifer Aniston in the
eyes and vice versa. Things happen, Marks are flying, Yes,
they are. Ye, things happen when you're on this set.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (15:29):
Darren Ravel, founder of collect He's been following the show.
Heyo Tani fiftieth home run ball and it was up
for auction, going to auction, then maybe it was not,
and mail maybe it's back. So Darren Revel joining us
on the program to update us. Where do we stand
with show? Heyo Tani home run ball number fifty going
(15:49):
to auction.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Dan, we are one hour and thirteen minutes away from
the auction starting. What happened was last Thursday. I think
a lot of people, like historiques came so quick that
I think a lot of people didn't know, Like people
were not going to the game to watch the fifty
to fifty happen right day game Marlins, They're getting ready
(16:14):
to go to Dodger Stadium for a six game homestand
he's not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
He wouldn't even do he won't, he's not even gonna try.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
So I don't think fans were ready. And obviously he
hits a home run in the sixth say's forty nine.
And then he hits a home run in the seventh,
he's stolen two bases, so it became fifty to fifty.
I don't think everyone when that went into the left field,
I didn't. I don't think a lot of people really
were aware. You know, when you're at a game, you
don't know. So it goes in, guy has a chance
(16:44):
to catch it, Missus falls down. Guy comes across, looks
like he has it, and then there's kind of a
scrum with him and a kid, and he picks it
up and he holds it and then he goes away
and it's his ball. But soon after the kid said
I had it and he wrestled it out. Now this
might be a little bit too long, but it's really good,
(17:05):
so you'll have to cut a commercial.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Ah, Okay. So in two thousand and.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
One, when I was covering the Barry Bonds home run story,
where for well two thousand and one it was seventy
three the seventy three, one guy caught it. There was
then a scrum and another guy picked it up. The
court ruled that both of them had possession and both
of them owned it because the guy who wound up
(17:29):
with it didn't assault the guy who caught it, he
didn't touch him. There was a scrum, he lost it technically,
and then he had it. So you have two owners here.
It's hard to say there's two owners. There's one guy
who caught it or one guy who had it originally.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
And there's one guy who stole it.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
This kid, eighteen year old kid turned eighteen on fifty
to fifty on that day, went to the courthouse, fought
in the lawsuit, says it's mine tried to get a
temporary restraining order yesterday. They said no, the auction can
go ahead, but you cannot actually sell the ball until
we meet in court and see if there's a trial here.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well wait a minute, so it's gone to auction. You
can you can buy it.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
You cannot buy it immediately. So the auctioneer originally said,
if you want this for four point five million dollars,
you can buy it immediately. The court said you can't
buy it now. You can bid on it, and you
can bid on it until the auction closes on October sixteenth.
The next hearing is October tenth, so we'll take all
the bids. October tenth, we'll talk about whether this goes
(18:34):
to trial or not. So I think that they made
the right decision here because the longer you take, the
less valuable it is. So it's better for both for
both parties to get this thing going. I don't think
he's doing sixty sixty, but I'm just saying it's top
of mind.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Bidding starts at twelve noon. No no money wise.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Five hundred thousand dollars, which means with the buyers premium,
which is the extra cost you have to pay it's
six hundred and ten thousand dollars, So with the first
bid it'll be the sixth most valuable home run ball
ever behind McGuire seventy. So that was three million, the
judge sixty two one point five million. There was a
Babe Ruth nineteen thirty three All Star home run eight
(19:23):
hundred five thousand, missing one. But then there's Hank Aaron's
final home run ball that's over six und fifty thousand.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
So with one bid, this is the sixth most valuable
home run ball of all time.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What's McGuire's home run ball worth?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Probably one hundred fifty grand one, that's over three million.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Will I will say this though, Todd McFarlane bought a
bunch of those balls for five million dollars. He got
twenty five million in publicity, and he would have got
one hundred million if it was in the social media.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Era, so let's write off those costs.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
He was doing the spawn thing, he was getting into
figurines and sports figurines, so I think he got his
money's worth.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
What's Bond's ballworth? Now?
Speaker 5 (20:10):
You know, I don't know that that yeah, that that
ball actually that's the one I missed that ball went
for I think like seven hundred and seventy thousand.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Oh, you're talking about the seventy.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Three or the seventy six seventy three. So the story with.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
The seventy three is these guys fought for three years
and it was probably worth a million dollars when they started.
At the end it sold for two hundred twenty five thousand,
and then they had to split it. Oh so it
was two twenty five back then. I don't think a
lot of people are buying it, but those guys probably
had a net loss when you consider all their layeraphies.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us. Darren.
That's Darren Ravelle, founder of collect cl LCT, and he'll
be following that auction.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six eight m
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
We bring in Bob Nightingale, USA Today Baseball columnist. How
did we get to this point, Bob, where Oakland is
losing their a's to Las Vegas?
Speaker 7 (21:16):
What's been going on about twenty years?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
I mean they've been trying to get a new ballpark
since two thousand and five, every sent John Fisher bought
the team with lou Wolf, and they wanted to go
to San Jose. The Giants blocked them, tried five different places, nothing,
nothing worked, and finally these surrendered say, you know what,
we're done. We're going to Las Vegas. So it's too bad.
(21:39):
I meant the crowd they got yesterday, the crowd they
got this past homestand and if that was going on
all along, they never were left.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What kind of stadium are they going to move into
in Vegas in a couple of years, you'll be we.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Talked about one, you know, uh, you know glass, let's
you know, let's let's see clamorous everything you want. But
you know, next three years, I mean Sacramento in marri
League Ballpark, so it'd be a little tough to attract
some pre agents in that place. But Vegas, we'll see
how it works. I still have my doubts, you know,
in Phoenix, where I live, it's the fifth largest state
(22:14):
in the country, and they have they struggle to make
it work. I don't know, Dama's going to fly in
the Vegas in the summertime and want to go to
a baseball game.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering about.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I think if you made it more of an intimate
stadium like thirty five thousand had a retractable roof there.
But I don't know what the baseball climate is going
to be. Well, I should say the baseball fan climate
is going to be for a team that Oakland, you know,
didn't really support, and now Vegas is going to be
(22:45):
diehard Oakland A's fans.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I don't see either. I mean the Raiders it works,
of course, playing you know, nine home games, but to
play eightium one, I don't know. I don't see it.
I mean the diehard A's fans will follow them up
to Sacramento about hour and a half two hour drive,
but they're not going to fall into Las Vegas. And
you know, even guys like Bryce Harper or Las Vegas native,
(23:10):
said I don't think it's going to work. Expansion team
will work, but not somebody else's rejects.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm just wondering about. That that you
have this is it two years in Sacramento or three years?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
A minimum of three, so three for sure, and the
dam's not ready. It could be four, but yeah, minimum
three years.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What role did the commissioner play in this happening.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
It really kind of started under buds ceiling. Remember when
they gained the team to John Fish and Lou Wolf.
Lou Wolf was Bud's attorney brother at University of Wisconsin,
and so he's supposed to get some kind of favor.
Remember now, that area San Jose and all that used
to belong to the A's. They gave it to the
Giants saying, you know what, we don't want you to
(23:57):
move to Tampa Bay. Here, will help help you out here.
And Giants never give it back. So they fell along. Okay,
we'll be allowed to move to Fremont, San Jose, something
like that. So the Giants have been very complicit this
whole thing. Now they got the entire northern California to themselves.
That thing's going be a gor mine.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But could the commissioner see, I know he wants new
business and everybody wants to be in Vegas, but I
just I think the relocation fee didn't he waive that?
So that to me, you know, he was ready to
put them in the hov lane and send them to Vegas.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
He was, You're right, I mean what he did was say,
you know what, I'm tired of it. We've given Oakland
twenty years to figure this out. They haven't figured out.
I'm done with it. Wherever you guys want to go,
go ahead, and you know, Vegas stepped up. They're gonna
give Hi about three hundred and fifty million dollars in public funding.
And uh yeah, I mean everybody blames John Fisher, but
(24:56):
you know, like Dave Stewart said, Ricky Anderson said, blames
to go all around, like the age of the first
team to leave that place, just the last team, last
team to leave, you know, with the Warriors Raiders volting
before them.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Have you run out of ways to describe I have?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I mean, it's unbelievable, you know, I think I do
think some people will get carried away. The fifty to
fifties very cool, but with the new rules, was you know,
chilling bases and you know the pickoff throws me. Ricky
Henderson probably stole two hundred bases. But unbelievable year. But
I do think Dan, after what we've seen, how long
is this guy going to pitch? He'll pitch next year,
(25:37):
how much longer? I think he loves hitting. I think
he only pitches because he knows he can do it.
I don't see him pitching, you know, much longer than
a couple of years. I think hitting is just you know,
too valuable.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, because he's not going to put up these numbers
if he was pitching.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
And no, he's sortaly not going to run the bases
like this, even if Dave Roberts said, you're not going
to sacrifice your body and do all that when you
still have to bitch every five days. So yeah, we
may never see this offen some season again by him
until he stops vision.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Good to talk to you, Bob, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
No pleasant, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's Bob Nightingale, USA Today Baseball columnists there.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
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Speaker 2 (26:29):
Andy Staples, our good buddy, covers college football for on
three Sports. He has recently attended the Miami Florida game, Texas, Michigan, Alabama, Wisconsin.
Andy joins us on the program for some reason. Now,
I'm excited about Fresno State and UNLV. What do you
think there?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Andy?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I wonder how many people knew this game was happening,
knew what time it was happening to what channel it
was going to be on before you and these quarterback
decided to dip out in the middle of the week.
This week, as his three and oh team prepares for
its conference opener, Dan, It's one of the strangest things
I've ever seen. We kind of knew something like this
was going to happen eventually. Still when it came is like, WHOA,
(27:13):
what he's done? That's it?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Okay, But how did we get here? With a player
leaves holy Cross, he says he's promised one hundred thousand
dollars by an assistant coach. There's no paper trail. You're
not supposed to entice a recruit with money if you're
on the coaching staff. The collection, No you can now,
oh you can, okay. So he said that he didn't
(27:39):
entice him with money, So I like, how do you
prove any of this?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You don't just press That's the craziest part. And so
one of the things when when all these nil deals
blow up, When when there's a bad nil deal that
blows up, you can usually find blame on every side.
You can usually find a lot of stupidity everywhere and
in this particular case. So if you have an assistant
coach promising X dollars, the family needs to understand. But
more importantly, the agent representing the family, who works for
(28:08):
a big agency by the way, needs to understand, well,
the coach is not exactly authorized to do that because
he's not the one who'd be paying it. The collective
is who's paying it. So if that dollar figure is
thrown out there, the first call you should make is
to the collective to say, hey, is this money here?
Because is this accurate? Because because if it is, we
(28:28):
have a lot to talk about. But they didn't do that.
And like you heard the agent's boss say, well, he
wasn't allowed to sign a contract with the collective before
he enrolled. Okay, apparently the entire agency missed the giant
federal case earlier this year that got the NIL rules scrapped,
where yeah, you can sign a contract with a collective
(28:50):
before you enroll. So they absolutely could have signed a contract.
They didn't start negotiating until August though. And what's interesting
about this, though, is given you and LV situation where
they're three and zero, they've beaten two big twelve teams.
They have Syracuse next week. They could easily win the
Mountain West and be a playoff team if they do it.
(29:11):
Did all this well, if it's that important to you,
you can come up with the money. And in fact,
I think there was a casino owner who did pledge
the money if they needed to do it.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
And.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
They decided not to, which leads me to believe that
they didn't necessarily think Matthew Sluka was that critical to
this run. They have a guy named Hodjabaligue Williams who
transferred in from the fighting Campbell University Camels in North Carolina.
He was with the starters for all the spring, all
the summer, and I think they feel pretty comfortable with him.
(29:45):
We'll find out during the game against Presno State on
Saturday whether they're just blowing smoke here or if that's
the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
All right, let's recamp here. So if I'm going to
a university, the assistant coach says, hey, eight hundred thousand dollars,
if you want to come here, I then say, put
me in touch with a collective. Let's put it in writing. Yep,
so you can do that. That's all you do that?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Now you couldn't do that, and so when they were
engaged in January, you probably couldn't do that. But by
March you could. And this guy was still at Holy
Cross in March. He could have done this at any
point before he ended up going to UNLV.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Andy Staples covers college football for on three Sports. You
got the big show down with Alabama and Georgia, And
this is a perception game for me with Alabama, Kaitlin
de Boor, because now, if you beat Kirby Smart, you
beat Georgia Jalen Milroe if he would happen, you know this,
The perception is Alabama. Okay, we now know why they
(30:47):
got that guy, Jalen Milroe. We now know that he's
a legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate. How do you think this
game plays out?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Though?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
So I have said all week on my show that
I think Alabama's gonna win this game, that I think
this is gonna be the one where we se Jalen
Molrose Heisman moment. I got a phone call yesterday from
somebody who talked to some coaches who played some of
these teams, and they're like, you know you're wrong about this.
George is gonna come in there and smash them. I'm like, no, no,
I have faith here. I do think Alabama is insanely talented.
(31:19):
I think Alabama probably the second most talented roster in
America behind Ohio State right now. And Georgia has a
very talented roster too. Like if Georgia, if Alabama's two,
George is probably three. But I think Alabama's built really
well this season. We've seen them struggle for three quarters
exactly against USF and that was when both their starting
offensive tackles were out. Both of their starting offensive tackles
(31:42):
played against Wisconsin. They looked amazing. They're going to be
playing in this game. George is still recovering from losing
its best offensive lineman to injury. I think Alabama wins
this game.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Comfortably.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
No, no, there are no comfortable games against Kirby Smart's
Georgia Dan. I had a trivia question to get asked
in my mailbag the other.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Day, but it is in. George is favored in this game, right.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yes, a road favorite at Alabama, which is unheard of.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
When's the last time that happened?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It was a long time trying to remember there was
a Georgia Alabama game during the mark rickt Era, where
I think Georgia might have been favored in Alabama just
absolutely smashed him. Now, I don't think anybody's getting smashed
in this game one way or the other. I think
this is going to be a very close game. I'm
really excited to see it. My fear for Georgia dan
(32:33):
is we have not really seen who scares you down
the field for them. Last year was Lad McConaughey and
Brock Bowers. This year, there's not really been that person.
And like Alabama, I can tell you exactly who it is.
It's Ryan Williams, who you're gonna hear on the broadcast
fifty times. That he's seventeen years old makes it no
less amazing every time.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Other game that we should can't. How about upset alert,
how about Louisville against Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
It's crazy we're even talking about it like it would
be an upset. Now it's a pretty close point spread.
I think it's four and a half. Notre Dame favored.
Louisville crushed Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Last year crushed him.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Now this is at Notre Dame instead of at Louisville,
and obviously the teams are a little different because of what
happened out of the transfer portal. But Jeff Brahm has
done a really good job at Louisville and that was
a program that really retooled its roster through the portal
this year, and in fact, you haven't even seen it
at full strength yet because they have a receiver named
Colin Lacey from South Alabama who's been hurt and we
don't even know if he's gonna play in this game either.
(33:30):
But you got Tyler Shook at quarterback, who was one
of those five star guys was at Oregon, it never worked.
He goes to Texas Tech, he was never healthy. Well
he's healthy now and maybe he fulfills all that promise.
I think Louisville probably has the better QB in this matchup.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Really, Okay, I've got Louisville getting seven against Notre Dame
this according.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
To early in the week, it was four and a half.
So yeah, the public disagrees with me, but I appreciate
that because I got in on a Louisville at four
and a half, because I've picked Louisville cover.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
How do you think morale is at USC?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Well, the bar Alexander leaving situation, I think is one
of the deals. So Bar Alexander, for those who don't know,
defensive tackle who transferred from Georgia, was considered a huge
get at the time, but he's been kind of an issue,
threatened to leave in the spring, isn't playing as much
as he wanted to, and now he's leaving. I don't
think that's going to be a big problem for USC.
I think the bigger thing is just figure out, Okay,
(34:31):
how did we get beat by Michigan when we knew
they couldn't throw the ball. I still think that USC
is in a better place than they were the last
couple of years because I think Lincoln Riley it feels
to me like he has decided defense actually matters. They
are practicing in a way that defense matters. You see
them making open field tackles. Did they get beat in
(34:53):
the Michigan game?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Are they going to play an offensive line as good
as Michigan, a back as good as Coloe Mullings the
rest of their schedule? Probably not. So I do think
that they're going to be okay. Are they going to
beat Penn State? Are they going to win the Big Ten? No?
I don't think they're gonna do that, but they're going
to get better, and I think if you build on that,
you got something.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Before I let you go. We brought this up yesterday.
Could you see a scenario where team qualifies for the playoffs?
Star player says, I'd like to get more money.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh yeah, Oh that's the whole thing. Oh I thought
they were leaving or yo. Yeah, I mean that happens now, Dan,
That happened all year last year at various teams. So yeah,
you're a free agent every day in the system and time.
The only way they can make that stop is find
a way to make the players employees, get them unionize,
(35:53):
and bargain a CBA with them. But here's the thing,
this is the part that people don't understand. It's never
going to get better than it is now for players.
If I'm a player, I'm like, I don't want to
be in a union, I don't want a CBA. Let's
just keep this money coming. Because right now, there's nothing
the schools can do that won't get them sued and
that they won't lose in court. They can't make rules
(36:16):
that won't get knocked down by the courts. So if
I'm a player, I'm like, let's go. However, just bring
it on.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Now.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I do think there are negative consequences for that sort
of thing what you just said, Like, if I'm an
NFLGM and I see that, I don't want that player
on my team, I don't want that player anywhere near
my team. And I think that that hopefully is one
of the negative incentives that that stops people from doing
something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, but we had Christian McCaffery and Leonard Fornatt Fournette
not playing in a bowl game. When they're like, oh
my god, what's that going to do to their draft stock?
It did nothing to their drafts that that was a
bowl game that was there was no championship on the line.
So that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And I think, and I may be wrong, I may
be being too idealistic about this. It may be that
they are, Hey, you're you're a businessman, we run a business.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
But I just I think that would be problematic for
me because at that point you've gotten most of the
way you've got to. We're talking about playoff teams, so
we're probably talking about big time schools where they're getting
pretty big money deals like it would take a lot
of cojones for somebody to try to pull that.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Have a good week on Andy. Thanks for joining us.
As always, thank you Dan,
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