October 1, 2024 • 40 mins
Considering the last player chosen in the NFL Draft is labeled, “Mr. Irrelevant,” Dan wonders if there are entire teams in the NFL that we can label with that moniker. And, Hall of Fame Cincinnati Reds catcher Johnny Bench joins the show to talk about his former teammate and friend, Pete Rose.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Tuesday Hall of Famer Johnny Bench, he'll reminisce
on his former teammate Pete Rose coming up here in
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Think if I remember right our first World series that
we worked with San Francisco, our first road trip way
back in the day.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Me you Fritzy, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We went to the restaurant right across the street from
the ballpark.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
It starts with an M. And then we went to
this dive bar a couple of times. That was Starlight,
No South Beach, South something, Oh darn it, Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Man, Shanghai, Kelly's, Shanghai, Kelly's. We went there, Yes, spend
a little time there Shanghai a few times.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I remember meeting the bomb squad guys in the oh.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Yes, yes, yeah, they were nice guys.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right, Well, welcome to the program already in progress.
I think every Monday should be a doubleheader in the NFL.
I mean you're guaranteed of having one good game. No,
you didn't want to watch Titans Dolphins flip over? You
didn't want to watch Nick Folk kick five field goals?
How many games have we had so far where we've
had kickers with five field goals? This is the fifth
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game this season in which a kicker has made five
or more field goals. That's the most through the first
month of an NFL season in.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
History, dayDay.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
To day, out to day.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This is the st day stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Broughn't you buy bet in the America? The official trading
cards of the Dan Patrick show PAULI as a proposal.
Here you tell it, Okay, I don't want my name
attached to it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You're distancing your satisfy before you've heard it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Field goals are boring. Deep field goals are becoming easier.
What if you kept field goal attempts at four per
game per team so you really had to space it out,
because if you want to save one for the end
to win a game, you'd have more people go for
it on fourth downs or actual action.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So you're reevaluating it. Yeah, you're giving me a nod
s enough.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, well I did come up with I think
we need to narrow the goal post the further out
you get.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yours were actually yes, slide in an outlis.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, so the goalpost move in, so you get to
fifty yards and they're just a sliver there, and then
you know it's like a.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Big gate, big iron gate there. Balls would be hitting
off the iron gate, big doin.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
That's going to mess up with the kicking records that
happened before that change was made.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Though, Thank you, Jod.
Speaker 8 (03:09):
How could you possibly compare the previous era to the news.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, there are no records in football anymore due to
the change of seasons every couple of years. You know,
you go from twelve to fourteen to sixteen to seventeen.
Before this show's over, we're going to have an eighteen
game season. So the football records are the I don't
know what's the word blandest, because there's no real rhyme or.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Reason to them and not George bland It George Blandings.
Here's Dan Campbell on his quarterbacks near perfect game.
Speaker 9 (03:43):
I just gave the game ball to somebody else. So
I feel awful right now? Yeah? No, I well, I
knew he played a heck of a game. I did
not realize he was perfect. I did not know he
was literally eighteen for eighteen. I mean, but I knew
he played really well. You could feel it, and he
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really found his rhythm early, and I thought he was
seeing the field played with rhythm. He had to move
a little bit in the pocket. I thought, what really
kickstarted him is the you know, he had to kind
of move in the pog, got spun around and hung
with Jmo and hit him on the hook for the
first down was big man because he was rolling after that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, he's perfect, but didn't get a perfect QBR. So
you threw two touchdowns, you caught a touchdown pass, you
were eighteen of eighteen, But he didn't get the magic
number of one fifty eight point three. He was closed,
but he didn't have a perfect game. All right, poll
question for the final hour the program is going to
be what see don't counter.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
The final hour will.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
Be will Pete Rose to be allowed into Cooperstown posthumously, yes,
eventually or no? And the result of the hour two
pole was should Pete Rose ever be allowed into the
Hall of Fame posthumously? Seventy three percent say yes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, now we're going to go.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
With Will for the fust.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Okay, I did just refer to you as seatan.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I know what you meant.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Seaton's on here today, but he normally does the poll questions.
By the way, Paulie uh said, do I have your
permission that I can email the Hall of Fame and
have a few questions?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I said yeah, I said, just let me know the question.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So do you want.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
To say what the questions are?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I think it's fair as journalists.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Okay, we did reach out to the Baseball Hall of
Fame and ask for a phone call, and after my
questions on the phone call, they went, hey, maybe you
should email that we'll kick it upstairs.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
My question is, as of today, is it still the
case that it's a choice by the Hall of Fame
to put Rose on the ballot or not, and you
choose to follow MLB's lead with a lifetime suspension. Second
question was does MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred have any say
about Pete Roast being on the ballot or not being.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Those are fabulous questions.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's probably why we didn't get an answer right away.
He answered, Oh, I have to take that one upstairs.
By the way, I have the updated NFL over under
win totals after last night, and case you're curious, let
me see what would surprise you. Uh over under the
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Jags this year yet to win a game, Marvin, what
do you think the JAG's over under his four and
a half Paulie.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Since Marvin was wrong on going five and a half, Todd.
Speaker 10 (06:27):
I was thinking three and a half of them six
and a half. No, way, six and a half, six
and a half. Yeah, that seems aggressive a little bit.
The Jets over under.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Paulie uh nine and a half Marvin eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, bloop bloop, And I think we're going to be
looking back on that Broncos loss and we'll keep them
out of the playoffs. How about the Commanders, the new
one improved Washington command Marvin thirteen and a half, Wow,
Paul Commanders uh ten and a half, Todd nine and
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a half. Blo Blue Blue, the Niners, the banged up Niners.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Paul uh ten and a half bloo Blue Blue. We're
are the Cowboys now.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't have that on here. Here's one that will
I think surprise you. Cleveland Brown's over under this year.
Todd six and a half, Marvin five and a half. Blooolf, Paulie,
you got its five and.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
A half, five and a half. You went to the
playoffs last year.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You're gonna have the same quarterback next year? Oh my god?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
End the year after that?
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, probably question Mark.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
The artist formerly known as Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
My gosh, we don't hand out this award.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think I think we have kind of casually in
years gone by the most irrelevant team in the NFL,
Like there's mister irrelevant, there should be the team that's
kind of mister irrelevant? Are the Tennessee Titans the most irrelevant.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Team in the NFL? Oh we even get music, paul.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Now, the requirements are, you cannot be good, but you
could be good and irrelevant, but not really good. You
could be bad and relevant. Because of the number one
overall draft pick, the Titans are one in three. Their
quarterback is not very entertaining, their team's not very entertaining.
People don't even like their uniforms. They lost an interesting
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coach and replaced them with a person who you don't know.
That's a lot of points towards irrelevance.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And they let a Hall of Fame running back go.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Other than that, yes, Morton.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Oh, I agree with you. Okay, I'm the one that
said it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, the irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
For example, the New York Giants are not good, but
Malik Neighbors is somewhat tuning worthy and.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Daniel Jones you're kind of tuning in to see a
car wreck. And yeah, so I'd say they're relevant, but
not in a positive way like Arizona Cardinals are relevant.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
They're one and three though.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean you still have Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison
Junior the third, so you're at least interesting. It's just
it's hard to be in the NFL and be bland.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
And they did it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yay, congratulations. The Jags are there, but now they're a
little more relevant because you're wondering if that coach is
going to keep his job and could Bill Belichick end
up in Jacksonville?
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Yes, only if the Titans had a franchise wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Okay, let him go to.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Mike Mike Rabel's face during the draft when they traded him.
It was just like gotta be kidding me. What this is?
What the draft is for? Like, wait, we drafted a
franchise plan and now we let them go.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, it's weird how organizations do that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You would think it's a good thing that somebody does
live up to the hype, the billing of where you
drafted them, and they've actually played well during their contracts.
It's like ESPN has done. You get to a certain
level where you're really good and you're making good money,
then you're expendable, and then they bring in somebody else
at a lower level and then you kind of raise
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them up and then you kick them to the curb.
The NFL does that. It's like, uh, you're kind of
making too much money. Yeah, but I'm really good. Yeah
you are, but we can't afford to keep.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
A couple more irrelevant teams. Okay, the Patriots are one
in three. They started pretty well, but they don't even
have a rookie quarterback for the tune in factor.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Once they get Drake may in then they'll be relevant.
Issue dish.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
The Indianapolis Colts are only two and two, but the
Joe Flacco leftovers from last year gives some light interest
in them or am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
You're wrong on that, You're wrong trying to sell it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, Anthony Richardson makes them interesting because he's gonna be
a highlight for his team or your team, but.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Just not enough consistency.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Jonathan Taylor, I mean, he's a wonderful running back, but
that's not tune in factor.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Who else would be part of?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
How about this? The NFC South Buccaneers are fun.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna you know, they got they got
a Hall of Fame wide receiver. Baker's you know, still
playing pretty good football, So I'd say, yeah, I'd say
they're They're still they're interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Relevant, Yes, the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Like them. The Panthers relevant and the complete worst way
possible but relevant irrelevant.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
April, I don't. I don't think they're real of it
at all.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Would David Tepper?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, but I mean he's not playing. I mean, okay, Bryce,
he's not playing. You got the red rifle?
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Yeah, but maybe they'll take them on a good run
for the next few weeks.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
That could get interested who.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The red rifle?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Andy dal say they strength together three or four wins.
The Panthers with Andy Dalton had that up.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
They lost to the Bengals last year. After that, oh,
then they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Get Who is the only person in America who said
the Panthers would go to Las Vegas and beat the Raiders.
Thank you, Todd, But I bought into Andy Dalton, so
I thought, all right, get a little leadership there, maybe
maybe make it competitive. You were misled, Thank you, Thank
you to yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
The l a Rams are one and three. But as
long as Stafford's around and Sean McVeigh, yeah, they're tuning worthy.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And if you get Pooka back and Cooper Cup, then
well I thought they were a playoff team too.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
You can't abandon ship after four games. You can't.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
When is when is the designated abandoned ship? Like may day?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
May day? May Day?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Like when you jump off at how many?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
How many games are you allotted before you can officially
say they got no chance it's going to be a
losing season.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
We're terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Here's an example. The Cincinnati Bengals are one to three,
but they won their last game.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'm not abandoning ship there.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
If they were zero to four, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Still not right. I'm gonna have to go. If you
start out with five consecutive losses, then I would say
you can may Day. I didn't even abandon ship. When
the Lions started out what one in seven, the year
that I said they were going to make the playoffs,
I'm like, they're good, and then they were really good
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in the second half of the season.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yes, Tod, I.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Think after my magic number of eleven eleven games, you
have a very good idea.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Oh you've got to be able to, you know, yell
out may Day.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Before that, I would say the over under on May
Day is seven games.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I like pensiling against Pacifics seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
But there's also that high end team dip where remember
years and years ago, I think it was the Baltimore Ravens.
They were awesome, that awesome defense, and they went five
weeks without scoring a touchdown, Tony Banks and all those guys.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, but didn't they win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He did, like good teams always have a dip.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, Raj in Chicago before we take a break and
welcome in Johnny Bench.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Hey, roj Man, thanks again for taking my call.
Speaker 11 (14:36):
Mister Patrick.
Speaker 12 (14:37):
I got a pile of safe bet from my man,
my Melanatey brother in the front margin. I bet my man,
James and Madison my second favorite DP call to behind
christ and Syracuse. I'm pretty sure he gets his swag
like that because he got an African American wife. And
I would like to bet a patty pie to the
face and my man margin thanks you taking all?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay, so James and Virginia. Is he married? I think
he's married. I think he didn't. They just have a baby. Yes, Okay.
Is James's wife African American? I don't think so, but
Raj says he thinks James in Virginia's wife is African American?
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Pie of the face, Marvin, I'm gonna go, let's get
the item on this, sure, okay, twenty three and meter
we're going deep cut. Well, no, James just has to
send us a picture of his.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Wife and we still may not believe her. There.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, you had a hard time believing James was white
even when you saw him.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I know.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I showed my wife the video yesterday. She goes, nah, huh, oh.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Man, oh man, Hey hey the commanders, hey man, see
you at the meeting later.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah. Hey, we got our our month coming in February.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Oh man, hey, brother, what's going on? I was like, Jilly,
you won't even believe it. A couple of black calls
call in. I was like, man, dps for everybody, Come on,
james E Virgaine, we're going at ups. It's like, damn,
you got a good ass job.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Look at Jane, he's got benefits.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I was like, Calvin, gott a job.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Let's take a break. The great Johnny Bench joins us
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Speaker 2 (16:31):
He's the greatest catcher of all time. He's Johnny Bench,
the Hall of Famer and a two time World Series
champ with the Reds, and of course was a teammate
of Pete Roses. He's got his Pete and Johnny t
shirt on. And last time you saw Pete was win Johnny.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Actually I missed him in Nashville. He was there this
past weekend. They had a memorabilia show and I did
it on Saturday, and then he was in with Tony
and Davey and George and Kenny and they had one
last picture. I guess at the end of the show,
and I did not get to see him because I
was They put us on different days just for drawls
and stuff, But yeah, I would. And my plan was
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because everybody was saying that he wasn't looking great. He
was in a wheelchair, and my plan was the text
and we wish him, you know, better health. I think
it's a sad day for all of us and what
he meant to me, what he meant to the Big
Red Machine. But the guys were very concerned about him
yes on Sunday because they said he just wasn't the
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same old Pete. And it's sad. I mean, it really is.
I think back to the nineteen sixty seven, even sixty
six when I went to spring training, but being a
part of what Pete's life was and growing with him
for all the year we were in business, we played together.
His goal in life was to get two hundred hits.
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He wanted me to hit three hundred. I said, you
hit three hundred, I'll drive you one hundred times. But
nobody was more driven. He was the epitome of hustle,
of energy and desire. If he had three hits, he
wanted to get four. If he had four. He wanted
to get five. I've never seen anybody ever liked that.
And the day he got five hits off of gay
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Lord Perry is probably one of the greatest hitting days
that I can ever remember. He was in the batting
title and I think it was Mattie Alouke, and it
might have been Medlock, but it was like that, and
he was he was actually asking somebody in the stands
hall a lou was doing how many hits he had
as he was as he was going, and he needed
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one more, so he went out and got one. Boy,
and he told me stories. But it was we were
in business together, like I said. But his desire and
his need to win, his need to succeed, I think
it all became became part of his life because he
grew up in Western Hills and Cincinnati. He was a
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river rat, they called him, and barely got a chance
to even play the game of base while it was
an uncle of his that was newest scout that got
him a try out one hundred and forty five pounds,
and he was never going to make it, and he
wanted to prove to everybody. Wanted to be the first
hundred thousand dollars singles hitter. He wanted to drive a Cadillac,
and every day it was like he wanted more, and
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it was just, you know, it's heartbreaking because peach health
was a part of his life. His father died of
a heart attack in his early sixties, and Pete had
several procedures. But to think he reached space almost six
thousand times, six thousand times, I mean, there's nobody like that.
There's nobody but it, And damn it, why why? You know,
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you get up and you wonder why all of this happened,
and why a desire and a dream probably and the
greatest hitter in the game of baseball, how he could
possibly you know, get into a situation And yeah, it
bothered all of us, but it was our our desire
to try to help him. We did everything we could.
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There was more than people will ever know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, I know you're a big proponent in backer of Pete.
You know after your playing careers, did you know if
Pete bet? When he was playing?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
There were words, There were talk. There was friends of
mine who knew FBI agents and they actually passed along
the word that just hey, tell your friend to stay
as far away from him as you can. And I
thought that was kind of the as it turned out.
I wasn't sure why at the time did I know it? Now?
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Did I see him ever call in a bet? Now?
I mean we the only betting iver saw him do
was at the dog track in spring training.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But do you think, I mean, you talk about this competitiveness,
you can't turn that off. We see athletes when they're done,
they need something else. Pete needed something, you know, when
he played, he could you know as a manager or
you kind of but he needed that juice of gambling.
And then when you get busted by Major League Baseball,
his competitiveness, like Lance Armstrong, it doesn't allow you to apologize.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
That's true, and that was Yes, it's the adrenaline. And
let's face it. I mean, we talk about alcoholism. I've
had friends of an alcohol I see kids on drugs
all the time. They have a hard time getting off
gambling as an addiction. Let's just face it. We know
it is and it was for him, but he needed it.
He wanted it. He wanted to compete, and when he
didn't win, he had to double up, you know, and
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it's like he had to go after something else and
then when he he loved the horses, and then maybe
it was based basketball. Then it was football. You know
everybody bets football. And then what do you know best, Well,
let's just assume it was baseball. People say, well, he
only bet on the Reds to win. He said, well,
if you don't bet on one every night, you don't,
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you're betting against them. I mean it was I Look,
I got buried in Cincinnati because I didn't support Pete.
I didn't support all the things that you know. Oh
it's okay, and it's still rule twenty one. No matter
what you do. I don't care what you do. And people,
whenever you go to speak, first question is and I
look at them and I say what do you think?
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And they said yes, And I said, well do you
have kids? Yes? And I said, well go home and
tell them there's no more rules. And it's like WHOA,
Well I didn't, I said, well, I'm not. I didn't
make the rule. I didn't make the rule. I didn't
keep Pete out of it. In fact, I went to
the commissioner of Sea League twice. Went to him the
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third time. He said, no, don't bring it up again.
Twice Mike Smith Joe Morgan myself. But those are the
bad things, but what great things.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The Hall of Fame just says we're going to we
want him on the ballot. Since, I mean, they're independent
of Major League Baseball. Would you have a problem if
Cooperstown says we're going to have him on the on
the ballot.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
It's been their choice on SAD nine. Yeah, they they've
had that option. It was It wasn't major League Baseball.
It was the Hall of Fame that says, here's who's
on the ballot. These are the guys that have played
that for ten years or a certain amount of time
that makes you eligible to be voted on, and they
chose not to put him on the ballot. I don't
have a vote. I'm not a member. I'm you know,
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I'm a member of the Hall of Fame, but I
don't have a vote. And it's interesting to hear so
many people saying they would vote for him. So many
people say they're not vote for him. And there were
always lines drawn. And we are forgiving society. I mean,
there's people that right now have gone out and killed people.
There's people caught in drugs, sting. There's a deal in fraud,
they do everything, and yet they're now the face of
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sports in a lot of ways. And for Pete, you know,
I think he had a chance. I think when Uber
was the commissioner, he tried to get Pete to sign
off on a thing, and when Pete said, Noel beat it,
then it became I will challenge it. And it's been
a losing proposition for him. I mean in the times
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that my said, Bud, come on, let's let's try to
get him on. Okay, let's get him on. Let's see
if he'll do these things. It didn't work, It didn't take.
He didn't follow the rules that they had laid down.
And man, for all of us, I mean, there wasn't
a one. I mean, Tony Perez, Pete, to Joe Morgan,
there wasn't one of us that didn't say to Pete,
come on, let's do this. And it's sad. It's sad
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we have to he has to leave his legacy with
the gambling part of it, rather than the legacy with
forty two hundred and a jillion hits, forty two to
fifty six, whatever it is, five thousand beasts, five All
Star games in different positions, and the desire and to
make everybody better, everybody every where. When he made everybody better, Hey,
look what happened in Philadelphia when went over there and
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Mike Schmidt and all of those guys just stepped it
up a notch because their intensity level, because that's what
Pete had more than anybody.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I can't tell if you're more mad or sad that Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
I am. I am absolutely devastating. I mean I have cried.
I actually cried because I didn't want this to happen.
I didn't want this to happen to Pete. I wanted
to save Pete. Yeah, we had our difference. We knocked
heads on some certain things and everything else. There wasn't
one time that we didn't shake hands or a hug
whenever we saw each other. I didn't want it hanging
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over it. I didn't want this to be part of baseball.
I didn't want it to be a black eye on
baseball to begin with. But I didn't. More importantly, Pete
gave everything to all of us, all of us, and
yet this sickness, this addiction, was too much for him
to overcome.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
He gave you, but he didn't give you what you
ultimately wanted. And that is to help Pete help himself.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, we had a quite a talk out in California
when I was We were at an event together and
he said, can I see you a minute. He came
and he went into a different room and he said,
I apologize. I apologize for everything that I did to
you during the Hall of Fame year. I affected that
how I've affected you after your career because I know
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all the questions are coming about me, and it takes
away from what you achieved, and it probably takes away
from what I achieved. But I'm sorry, I'm I apologize,
And I thought, now is the opportunity, Pete, Now is
the opportunity to really step forward and and say I'm sorry.
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You know, Follo at your feet of everyone and say
I'm sorry, and America would forgive it him. I mean,
you know somebody said, you know, he would have been
even been a worse shooting, you know, better off shooting somebody.
I think than what what this has caused. And we
seem to make you know certain things out of you
know who who took drugs? You know? All right there,
(26:54):
let's go with Barry Bond, Let's go with Roger Clem.
Let's go to Samysus and then we take klee Kin
and maguire, And yet there's guys that probably have taken
it or accused of taking it. You know that's playing
now and played forever and played in the Hall of
Been or in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Probably, But I wonder about this. Let's say Pete didn't manage.
Let's say he was seven years after his career was over.
So he goes in first ballot, he's in the Hall
of Fame, he decides to manage, and then they realize
that he's gambling on baseball. Would the Baseball Hall of
Fame take Pete out? Do you think if he was
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already in for what he did as a player, but
he's accused of gambling as a manager.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I would hope that the club would interject. I would
hope that the club would step up in and say, Pete,
this is a warning. Everybody knows it. I mean, we
have now have all the detectives in the world in
Major League Baseball. They're checking everything that you do. And
if they found out or something that this was a situation,
you know, these are what is you know, what if
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he never made that first bet? What if he had
won his first bet. What if he had not lost
and doubled down? What if all of these things would
have happened. You know, if you don't bet on your
team every night, Okay, that's betting against them that we know.
But if he'd have these are all scenarios that had
he done it, I'm sure that I found out about it.
I was the owner. I would have come down and
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said Pete, no, knock this off, or they would have
fired him on the spot. Because the integrity of baseball
is still the most important thing we have.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What would you say to Commissioner Manfred today. Let's say
he's listening to this interview.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
He's made that decisions, he's had a one on one
with Pete. He's had a one on one hour hour and.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
A half, so no budgeting that that he What did
you hear from that conversation he had with Pete?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Well, we know what his decision was. Nothing. No, you're
not You're not going to be on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But he can't and he and you know this better
than anybody, Johnny, is this commissioner can't make that decision
because you're going against bud Sea League and you're going
against Barciamani, and I don't think he wants. This isn't
a legacy that you want. I mean, he's this commissioner,
has done some good things for baseball. I just don't know.
(29:19):
It seems hypocritical if you put him in posthumously.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Well, the thing that bothers me today is everything is gambling.
You're probably being sponsored by something. Yes, I mean we're
we're now condoning it, and we're now seeing it. I'm
watching the game yesterday and I see ninety probability the
Braves will win ten percent on the met now they
score three runs out sixty forty. I mean, now you
got it on your phone where you can you can
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bet on swings. They say, you can bet on foul balls,
you can bet on pitchers a tryout. I mean, it's
become part of it. And now we see a couple
of young players who now have been banned from baseball
or at least suspend it. I think that's that's the
thing we have have to have to figure out.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
But I can't.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
But you could always at it differently. Baseball is actually
looking at this differently.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Now, Well, they're doing this to make money off fans.
You can't have the people involved in these games with
the potential to alter the outcome. That's why I know
they're in bed with gambling. But players can't be involved
in this because they can manipulate the outcome, fix a game.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
So soaking the fans Strangely enough, I mean, if you've
ever been to a golf tournament when the guy's in
these backs, when somebody coughs or sneezes, or his phone
happens to chirp or anything else because he doesn't want
him to hit the ball in a fair way, or
he doesn't want all of these their scenarios. These are possibilities. Yes,
I understand the money's out there, and that's what it's
all about, is having the owners and paying for the
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salaries that they've got out there. That's that's understandable. That's
what we do. We're all in it for the dollar.
At this point, is they say, the owners would say,
and that's what we're going to have to do it.
We're gonna give a seven hundred million dollar contract. Somehow
we've got to pay for it. Yeah, I mean you know,
I mean sure that you know even in the wow,
seven hundred million, it's two million, fifty million. That's a lot,
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but it's it. I think baseball is starting to take
a different look at it now. Okay, working doning betting,
and should we take another look at Pete? I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Okay, Uh, your first reaction to when Pete slid head
first when you first saw.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
It, I was doing it in Binger, Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Because Pete was doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
No, no, no, I hadn't seen Pete. This is back
in the early sixties, so I had never TV. I
would know who Pete was in sixty three he came
up as a rookie, so I never saw Pete Rose
head first light. I was head first sliding with ing
the slaughter.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Is he the first one to do a head first slide.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
In a slaughter? Yeah? He was known for that. And
I did the head first slid, and then when I
got up to Cincinnati, Pete was doing the head first slid,
so I didn't do the hip first slide anymore. It's
his deal. I mean, I've never seen anybody. I don't
know if you can call it a slide. I mean,
the statue he has in front of his stadium is perfect. Yeah,
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that is absolutely Pete Rose. That's the way he dove
into everything with aggress aggressiveness. I mean you can see
you can still look back at the nineteen seventy five
World Series when he went into third, if you're going
to remember that base hitting there and he dove in
there like that. I mean he's two feet off the ground,
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flying through the air, and that's the way the statue
and that's a way of pitomize what Pete was. It's
just damn it, Pete. You did it to our us,
you did it to yourself, and we're we're have and
then we have to talk about this. We have to
talk about what was was your life and your life
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no matter how you want to do it, Forty two
hundred hits now goes No. He gambled real twenty one
beats four real twenty one beats for forty two fifty six.
And that's that's the sad thing about it, because God
could he played two hundred. I mean every year, hits, hits, hits,
get in score, run, run the bases as good as anybody.
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And for a guy to give up a position as
an All Star and be no, when when George Foster
was traded over Tony I mean, Smarty goes at the
Pete's on the age you to play third. Okay, he
was second base, then he goes to first base. I mean,
he created everything that he did with the determination and
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and love for the game. I don't think anybody loved
the game more than Pete.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And I hear what you're saying, we should be talking
about Pete the ballplayer, but he what he did overshadowed that,
and it's just hard to get through the trees with it.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
It's the greatest story ever forty two to fifty six.
When he beat Cobb, it was the greatest story. Nobody
can be Nobody there was impossible to beat cop and
then he goes past it. And then he goes past it.
I mean, we can talk about Ripkin and his so
longevity and everything else, but Pete was out there for
one hundred and ninety hits for thirteen years, and we
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brag about a guy who got one hundred and seventy.
Now we look at the top hitters in the game
of baseball and his batting titles and all the stuff,
and all the runs that he scored and all the things,
and no, we got to talk about this, and damn it, Pete,
that's just not the way I wanted to end this.
That's not the way I wanted to see you. Go out.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Stay healthy, Okay, work in my assof stay healthy.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Thank you Daniel too, all right, Love.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
You, Johnny Bench.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Take a break.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Last call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in
store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in store tomorrow.
I appreciate Johnny Bench coming on. You could hear the
sadness in his voice. I wasn't sure if it was
anger or sadness. Might have been a combination of both.
That we should be looking back on Pete Rose's career
as a baseball player, and what Pete did won't allow
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that to happen. It's stood in the way, and we'll
continue to stand in the way. Final results of the
poll question there, Fritzel, We've.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Got exactly fifty to fifty on the poll question, which
was will Pete Rose ever be allowed into Cooperstown posthumously?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yes, eventually or no?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Right down the middle, I want to give a shout
out if you watch on Peacock and the segments in between,
you know, during the commercial breaks. Rob who works in
the back does an unbelievable job in getting timely clips
from interviews, fun things, and just want to say, done
a wonderful job, you know, over the years, and he
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reacts in real time of getting you know, if there's
somebody who said something about Pete Rose and you have
that on during the what are the commercial breaks, but
you get to watch that on Peacock. So Rob, thank
you and the other backroom guys who take part in that.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
We appreciate that. Griffin in Cincinnati, Hi Griff, good to
have you back.
Speaker 13 (36:19):
Happy Hooday Tuesday, Dan, I got three quick things for
you in a shout out to Rob as well. Hoo day,
Hoo day. Who they think going to beat them Bengals
three out of the fourteenth they played already, but when
is the win? Doesn't matter?
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Who woke again?
Speaker 13 (36:34):
I am a little nervous for Sunday that the Ravens
are going to break the NFL rushing record in a
single game. That makes me nervous. I have a stepteen VP, Dan,
septeen VP. In college football, the Indiana Hoosiers five and
zero for the first time since nineteen sixty seven. Coach
Sigg has the boys lit up on fire. I'm enjoyed
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watching them for the first time in a few years,
and I don't want to back on Pete Road, but
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Speaker 2 (37:11):
All right, well done, Griff, well done, Well done. Dorsey
in North Carolina, Hi, Dorsey, hy Dan?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
How are you today?
Speaker 11 (37:20):
Average third time callar, I'm calling the guys just to
talk to a touch on what I was telling about
the juggernaut that is the Indiana University football team. And
you know, it's very hard to say that because there's
nothing but basketball, but this guy has done a marvelous job.
They're leading the country in touchdowns, there were third in
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the country in offense, and their defense is better than
their offense. And somebody needs to give them a little
bit of recognition.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
You just did back to back calls. I didn't plan
this Indiana football who knew, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, I remember a couple of years ago they had
the Michael PENNOCKX spike and they will good. Then they
cool off a little bit. It's a it's a nice return.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
For Okay, who have they played to become five and zero?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh, now you're gonna get fiu.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Fiu too at home Western Illinois the Leatherneck seventy seven
to three U silly forty two thirteen.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I did take note of that, just because they went
cross country and beat us.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Herero Rough Trump Charlotte, which is a school for fifty
two to fourteen, and then they housed Maryland last weekend
forty two to twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Okay, all right, what's their next game?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Well, it gets tougher slowly. Northwestern Nebraska, Washington, Michigan State, Michigan,
Ohio State, Perdue.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, all right, maybe they get bowled. They got one
more for Bowl eligible. About a round of applause for
Indiana football, right, Yeah, I don't know their fight, so
I don't I don't remember. Now, usually remember a fight
song from a football team. It's rarely from a basketball
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team that you remember it. Like USC, it was always
that football. You know, they'd play that after every first
down or something. It was great late afternoon at the
coliseum when usc was really good, Sun is shining, man,
they looked awesome, invincible.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Peter King, I think is going to stop by the
studio tomorrow, the retired Peter King. Although I think he's
doing that Let's Go podcast.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Yeah, semi retired doing the Let's Go podcast with Bill
Belichick and Jim Gray.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Okay, Tom Brady? Is Brady still doing it?
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Oh yeah, Okay, Let's go around the room. What we
learned on the program?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Todd?
Speaker 8 (39:42):
Would you learn today the Pete Rose Band was an
employment band, permanently ineligible from holding a job in Major
League Baseball?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
All right, Marvin, what did you learn today?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Herm Edwards likes the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And he also did not trademark. You play to win
the game? Pauli, what did you learn? Pete Rose own
owned the head of her slide, although he took it
from Enos Country Slaughter.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Todd, what did I learn?
Speaker 6 (40:06):
We all learned?
Speaker 8 (40:06):
The Hall of Fame doesn't need permission from mejor League
Baseball to put Pete Rose on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Tuesday Hall of Famer Johnny Bench, he'll reminisce
on his former teammate Pete Rose coming up here in
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Think if I remember right our first World series that
we worked with San Francisco, our first road trip way
back in the day.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Me you Fritzy, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We went to the restaurant right across the street from
the ballpark.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
It starts with an M. And then we went to
this dive bar a couple of times. That was Starlight,
No South Beach, South something, Oh darn it, Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Man, Shanghai, Kelly's, Shanghai, Kelly's. We went there, Yes, spend
a little time there Shanghai a few times.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I remember meeting the bomb squad guys in the oh.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Yes, yes, yeah, they were nice guys.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right, Well, welcome to the program already in progress.
I think every Monday should be a doubleheader in the NFL.
I mean you're guaranteed of having one good game. No,
you didn't want to watch Titans Dolphins flip over? You
didn't want to watch Nick Folk kick five field goals?
How many games have we had so far where we've
had kickers with five field goals? This is the fifth
(01:40):
game this season in which a kicker has made five
or more field goals. That's the most through the first
month of an NFL season in.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
History, dayDay.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
To day, out to day.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
This is the st day stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Broughn't you buy bet in the America? The official trading
cards of the Dan Patrick show PAULI as a proposal.
Here you tell it, Okay, I don't want my name
attached to it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You're distancing your satisfy before you've heard it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Field goals are boring. Deep field goals are becoming easier.
What if you kept field goal attempts at four per
game per team so you really had to space it out,
because if you want to save one for the end
to win a game, you'd have more people go for
it on fourth downs or actual action.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So you're reevaluating it. Yeah, you're giving me a nod
s enough.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, well I did come up with I think
we need to narrow the goal post the further out
you get.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yours were actually yes, slide in an outlis.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, so the goalpost move in, so you get to
fifty yards and they're just a sliver there, and then
you know it's like a.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Big gate, big iron gate there. Balls would be hitting
off the iron gate, big doin.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
That's going to mess up with the kicking records that
happened before that change was made.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Though, Thank you, Jod.
Speaker 8 (03:09):
How could you possibly compare the previous era to the news.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, there are no records in football anymore due to
the change of seasons every couple of years. You know,
you go from twelve to fourteen to sixteen to seventeen.
Before this show's over, we're going to have an eighteen
game season. So the football records are the I don't
know what's the word blandest, because there's no real rhyme or.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Reason to them and not George bland It George Blandings.
Here's Dan Campbell on his quarterbacks near perfect game.
Speaker 9 (03:43):
I just gave the game ball to somebody else. So
I feel awful right now? Yeah? No, I well, I
knew he played a heck of a game. I did
not realize he was perfect. I did not know he
was literally eighteen for eighteen. I mean, but I knew
he played really well. You could feel it, and he
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really found his rhythm early, and I thought he was
seeing the field played with rhythm. He had to move
a little bit in the pocket. I thought, what really
kickstarted him is the you know, he had to kind
of move in the pog, got spun around and hung
with Jmo and hit him on the hook for the
first down was big man because he was rolling after that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, he's perfect, but didn't get a perfect QBR. So
you threw two touchdowns, you caught a touchdown pass, you
were eighteen of eighteen, But he didn't get the magic
number of one fifty eight point three. He was closed,
but he didn't have a perfect game. All right, poll
question for the final hour the program is going to
be what see don't counter.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
The final hour will.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
Be will Pete Rose to be allowed into Cooperstown posthumously, yes,
eventually or no? And the result of the hour two
pole was should Pete Rose ever be allowed into the
Hall of Fame posthumously? Seventy three percent say yes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, now we're going to go.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
With Will for the fust.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Okay, I did just refer to you as seatan.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I know what you meant.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Seaton's on here today, but he normally does the poll questions.
By the way, Paulie uh said, do I have your
permission that I can email the Hall of Fame and
have a few questions?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I said yeah, I said, just let me know the question.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So do you want.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
To say what the questions are?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I think it's fair as journalists.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Okay, we did reach out to the Baseball Hall of
Fame and ask for a phone call, and after my
questions on the phone call, they went, hey, maybe you
should email that we'll kick it upstairs.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
My question is, as of today, is it still the
case that it's a choice by the Hall of Fame
to put Rose on the ballot or not, and you
choose to follow MLB's lead with a lifetime suspension. Second
question was does MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred have any say
about Pete Roast being on the ballot or not being.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Those are fabulous questions.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's probably why we didn't get an answer right away.
He answered, Oh, I have to take that one upstairs.
By the way, I have the updated NFL over under
win totals after last night, and case you're curious, let
me see what would surprise you. Uh over under the
(06:18):
Jags this year yet to win a game, Marvin, what
do you think the JAG's over under his four and
a half Paulie.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Since Marvin was wrong on going five and a half, Todd.
Speaker 10 (06:27):
I was thinking three and a half of them six
and a half. No, way, six and a half, six
and a half. Yeah, that seems aggressive a little bit.
The Jets over under.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Paulie uh nine and a half Marvin eight and a half.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, bloop bloop, And I think we're going to be
looking back on that Broncos loss and we'll keep them
out of the playoffs. How about the Commanders, the new
one improved Washington command Marvin thirteen and a half, Wow,
Paul Commanders uh ten and a half, Todd nine and
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a half. Blo Blue Blue, the Niners, the banged up Niners.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Paul uh ten and a half bloo Blue Blue. We're
are the Cowboys now.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't have that on here. Here's one that will
I think surprise you. Cleveland Brown's over under this year.
Todd six and a half, Marvin five and a half. Blooolf, Paulie,
you got its five and.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
A half, five and a half. You went to the
playoffs last year.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You're gonna have the same quarterback next year? Oh my god?
Speaker 7 (07:49):
End the year after that?
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, probably question Mark.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
The artist formerly known as Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
My gosh, we don't hand out this award.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think I think we have kind of casually in
years gone by the most irrelevant team in the NFL,
Like there's mister irrelevant, there should be the team that's
kind of mister irrelevant? Are the Tennessee Titans the most irrelevant.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Team in the NFL? Oh we even get music, paul.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Now, the requirements are, you cannot be good, but you
could be good and irrelevant, but not really good. You
could be bad and relevant. Because of the number one
overall draft pick, the Titans are one in three. Their
quarterback is not very entertaining, their team's not very entertaining.
People don't even like their uniforms. They lost an interesting
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coach and replaced them with a person who you don't know.
That's a lot of points towards irrelevance.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And they let a Hall of Fame running back go.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Other than that, yes, Morton.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Oh, I agree with you. Okay, I'm the one that
said it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, the irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
For example, the New York Giants are not good, but
Malik Neighbors is somewhat tuning worthy and.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Daniel Jones you're kind of tuning in to see a
car wreck. And yeah, so I'd say they're relevant, but
not in a positive way like Arizona Cardinals are relevant.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
They're one and three though.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean you still have Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison
Junior the third, so you're at least interesting. It's just
it's hard to be in the NFL and be bland.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
And they did it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yay, congratulations. The Jags are there, but now they're a
little more relevant because you're wondering if that coach is
going to keep his job and could Bill Belichick end
up in Jacksonville?
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Yes, only if the Titans had a franchise wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Okay, let him go to.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Mike Mike Rabel's face during the draft when they traded him.
It was just like gotta be kidding me. What this is?
What the draft is for? Like, wait, we drafted a
franchise plan and now we let them go.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yeah, it's weird how organizations do that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You would think it's a good thing that somebody does
live up to the hype, the billing of where you
drafted them, and they've actually played well during their contracts.
It's like ESPN has done. You get to a certain
level where you're really good and you're making good money,
then you're expendable, and then they bring in somebody else
at a lower level and then you kind of raise
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them up and then you kick them to the curb.
The NFL does that. It's like, uh, you're kind of
making too much money. Yeah, but I'm really good. Yeah
you are, but we can't afford to keep.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
A couple more irrelevant teams. Okay, the Patriots are one
in three. They started pretty well, but they don't even
have a rookie quarterback for the tune in factor.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Once they get Drake may in then they'll be relevant.
Issue dish.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
The Indianapolis Colts are only two and two, but the
Joe Flacco leftovers from last year gives some light interest
in them or am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
You're wrong on that, You're wrong trying to sell it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, Anthony Richardson makes them interesting because he's gonna be
a highlight for his team or your team, but.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Just not enough consistency.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Jonathan Taylor, I mean, he's a wonderful running back, but
that's not tune in factor.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Who else would be part of?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
How about this? The NFC South Buccaneers are fun.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna you know, they got they got
a Hall of Fame wide receiver. Baker's you know, still
playing pretty good football, So I'd say, yeah, I'd say
they're They're still they're interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Relevant, Yes, the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Like them. The Panthers relevant and the complete worst way
possible but relevant irrelevant.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
April, I don't. I don't think they're real of it
at all.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Would David Tepper?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, but I mean he's not playing. I mean, okay, Bryce,
he's not playing. You got the red rifle?
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Yeah, but maybe they'll take them on a good run
for the next few weeks.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
That could get interested who.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
The red rifle?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Andy dal say they strength together three or four wins.
The Panthers with Andy Dalton had that up.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
They lost to the Bengals last year. After that, oh,
then they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Get Who is the only person in America who said
the Panthers would go to Las Vegas and beat the Raiders.
Thank you, Todd, But I bought into Andy Dalton, so
I thought, all right, get a little leadership there, maybe
maybe make it competitive. You were misled, Thank you, Thank
you to yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
The l a Rams are one and three. But as
long as Stafford's around and Sean McVeigh, yeah, they're tuning worthy.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And if you get Pooka back and Cooper Cup, then
well I thought they were a playoff team too.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
You can't abandon ship after four games. You can't.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
When is when is the designated abandoned ship? Like may day?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
May day? May Day?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Like when you jump off at how many?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
How many games are you allotted before you can officially
say they got no chance it's going to be a
losing season.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
We're terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Here's an example. The Cincinnati Bengals are one to three,
but they won their last game.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'm not abandoning ship there.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
If they were zero to four, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Still not right. I'm gonna have to go. If you
start out with five consecutive losses, then I would say
you can may Day. I didn't even abandon ship. When
the Lions started out what one in seven, the year
that I said they were going to make the playoffs,
I'm like, they're good, and then they were really good
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in the second half of the season.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yes, Tod, I.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Think after my magic number of eleven eleven games, you
have a very good idea.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Oh you've got to be able to, you know, yell
out may Day.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Before that, I would say the over under on May
Day is seven games.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I like pensiling against Pacifics seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
But there's also that high end team dip where remember
years and years ago, I think it was the Baltimore Ravens.
They were awesome, that awesome defense, and they went five
weeks without scoring a touchdown, Tony Banks and all those guys.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, but didn't they win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He did, like good teams always have a dip.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, Raj in Chicago before we take a break and
welcome in Johnny Bench.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Hey, roj Man, thanks again for taking my call.
Speaker 11 (14:36):
Mister Patrick.
Speaker 12 (14:37):
I got a pile of safe bet from my man,
my Melanatey brother in the front margin. I bet my man,
James and Madison my second favorite DP call to behind
christ and Syracuse. I'm pretty sure he gets his swag
like that because he got an African American wife. And
I would like to bet a patty pie to the
face and my man margin thanks you taking all?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay, so James and Virginia. Is he married? I think
he's married. I think he didn't. They just have a baby. Yes, Okay.
Is James's wife African American? I don't think so, but
Raj says he thinks James in Virginia's wife is African American?
(15:18):
Pie of the face, Marvin, I'm gonna go, let's get
the item on this, sure, okay, twenty three and meter
we're going deep cut. Well, no, James just has to
send us a picture of his.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Wife and we still may not believe her. There.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, you had a hard time believing James was white
even when you saw him.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
I know.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I showed my wife the video yesterday. She goes, nah, huh, oh.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Man, oh man, Hey hey the commanders, hey man, see
you at the meeting later.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah. Hey, we got our our month coming in February.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Oh man, hey, brother, what's going on? I was like, Jilly,
you won't even believe it. A couple of black calls
call in. I was like, man, dps for everybody, Come on,
james E Virgaine, we're going at ups. It's like, damn,
you got a good ass job.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Look at Jane, he's got benefits.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I was like, Calvin, gott a job.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Let's take a break. The great Johnny Bench joins us
next here on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
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Speaker 2 (16:31):
He's the greatest catcher of all time. He's Johnny Bench,
the Hall of Famer and a two time World Series
champ with the Reds, and of course was a teammate
of Pete Roses. He's got his Pete and Johnny t
shirt on. And last time you saw Pete was win Johnny.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Actually I missed him in Nashville. He was there this
past weekend. They had a memorabilia show and I did
it on Saturday, and then he was in with Tony
and Davey and George and Kenny and they had one
last picture. I guess at the end of the show,
and I did not get to see him because I
was They put us on different days just for drawls
and stuff, But yeah, I would. And my plan was
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because everybody was saying that he wasn't looking great. He
was in a wheelchair, and my plan was the text
and we wish him, you know, better health. I think
it's a sad day for all of us and what
he meant to me, what he meant to the Big
Red Machine. But the guys were very concerned about him
yes on Sunday because they said he just wasn't the
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same old Pete. And it's sad. I mean, it really is.
I think back to the nineteen sixty seven, even sixty
six when I went to spring training, but being a
part of what Pete's life was and growing with him
for all the year we were in business, we played together.
His goal in life was to get two hundred hits.
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He wanted me to hit three hundred. I said, you
hit three hundred, I'll drive you one hundred times. But
nobody was more driven. He was the epitome of hustle,
of energy and desire. If he had three hits, he
wanted to get four. If he had four. He wanted
to get five. I've never seen anybody ever liked that.
And the day he got five hits off of gay
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Lord Perry is probably one of the greatest hitting days
that I can ever remember. He was in the batting
title and I think it was Mattie Alouke, and it
might have been Medlock, but it was like that, and
he was he was actually asking somebody in the stands
hall a lou was doing how many hits he had
as he was as he was going, and he needed
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one more, so he went out and got one. Boy,
and he told me stories. But it was we were
in business together, like I said. But his desire and
his need to win, his need to succeed, I think
it all became became part of his life because he
grew up in Western Hills and Cincinnati. He was a
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river rat, they called him, and barely got a chance
to even play the game of base while it was
an uncle of his that was newest scout that got
him a try out one hundred and forty five pounds,
and he was never going to make it, and he
wanted to prove to everybody. Wanted to be the first
hundred thousand dollars singles hitter. He wanted to drive a Cadillac,
and every day it was like he wanted more, and
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it was just, you know, it's heartbreaking because peach health
was a part of his life. His father died of
a heart attack in his early sixties, and Pete had
several procedures. But to think he reached space almost six
thousand times, six thousand times, I mean, there's nobody like that.
There's nobody but it, And damn it, why why? You know,
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you get up and you wonder why all of this happened,
and why a desire and a dream probably and the
greatest hitter in the game of baseball, how he could
possibly you know, get into a situation And yeah, it
bothered all of us, but it was our our desire
to try to help him. We did everything we could.
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There was more than people will ever know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, I know you're a big proponent in backer of Pete.
You know after your playing careers, did you know if
Pete bet? When he was playing?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
There were words, There were talk. There was friends of
mine who knew FBI agents and they actually passed along
the word that just hey, tell your friend to stay
as far away from him as you can. And I
thought that was kind of the as it turned out.
I wasn't sure why at the time did I know it? Now?
(20:37):
Did I see him ever call in a bet? Now?
I mean we the only betting iver saw him do
was at the dog track in spring training.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But do you think, I mean, you talk about this competitiveness,
you can't turn that off. We see athletes when they're done,
they need something else. Pete needed something, you know, when
he played, he could you know as a manager or
you kind of but he needed that juice of gambling.
And then when you get busted by Major League Baseball,
his competitiveness, like Lance Armstrong, it doesn't allow you to apologize.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
That's true, and that was Yes, it's the adrenaline. And
let's face it. I mean, we talk about alcoholism. I've
had friends of an alcohol I see kids on drugs
all the time. They have a hard time getting off
gambling as an addiction. Let's just face it. We know
it is and it was for him, but he needed it.
He wanted it. He wanted to compete, and when he
didn't win, he had to double up, you know, and
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it's like he had to go after something else and
then when he he loved the horses, and then maybe
it was based basketball. Then it was football. You know
everybody bets football. And then what do you know best, Well,
let's just assume it was baseball. People say, well, he
only bet on the Reds to win. He said, well,
if you don't bet on one every night, you don't,
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you're betting against them. I mean it was I Look,
I got buried in Cincinnati because I didn't support Pete.
I didn't support all the things that you know. Oh
it's okay, and it's still rule twenty one. No matter
what you do. I don't care what you do. And people,
whenever you go to speak, first question is and I
look at them and I say what do you think?
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And they said yes, And I said, well do you
have kids? Yes? And I said, well go home and
tell them there's no more rules. And it's like WHOA,
Well I didn't, I said, well, I'm not. I didn't
make the rule. I didn't make the rule. I didn't
keep Pete out of it. In fact, I went to
the commissioner of Sea League twice. Went to him the
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third time. He said, no, don't bring it up again.
Twice Mike Smith Joe Morgan myself. But those are the
bad things, but what great things.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
The Hall of Fame just says we're going to we
want him on the ballot. Since, I mean, they're independent
of Major League Baseball. Would you have a problem if
Cooperstown says we're going to have him on the on
the ballot.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
It's been their choice on SAD nine. Yeah, they they've
had that option. It was It wasn't major League Baseball.
It was the Hall of Fame that says, here's who's
on the ballot. These are the guys that have played
that for ten years or a certain amount of time
that makes you eligible to be voted on, and they
chose not to put him on the ballot. I don't
have a vote. I'm not a member. I'm you know,
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I'm a member of the Hall of Fame, but I
don't have a vote. And it's interesting to hear so
many people saying they would vote for him. So many
people say they're not vote for him. And there were
always lines drawn. And we are forgiving society. I mean,
there's people that right now have gone out and killed people.
There's people caught in drugs, sting. There's a deal in fraud,
they do everything, and yet they're now the face of
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sports in a lot of ways. And for Pete, you know,
I think he had a chance. I think when Uber
was the commissioner, he tried to get Pete to sign
off on a thing, and when Pete said, Noel beat it,
then it became I will challenge it. And it's been
a losing proposition for him. I mean in the times
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that my said, Bud, come on, let's let's try to
get him on. Okay, let's get him on. Let's see
if he'll do these things. It didn't work, It didn't take.
He didn't follow the rules that they had laid down.
And man, for all of us, I mean, there wasn't
a one. I mean, Tony Perez, Pete, to Joe Morgan,
there wasn't one of us that didn't say to Pete,
come on, let's do this. And it's sad. It's sad
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we have to he has to leave his legacy with
the gambling part of it, rather than the legacy with
forty two hundred and a jillion hits, forty two to
fifty six, whatever it is, five thousand beasts, five All
Star games in different positions, and the desire and to
make everybody better, everybody every where. When he made everybody better, Hey,
look what happened in Philadelphia when went over there and
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Mike Schmidt and all of those guys just stepped it
up a notch because their intensity level, because that's what
Pete had more than anybody.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I can't tell if you're more mad or sad that Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
I am. I am absolutely devastating. I mean I have cried.
I actually cried because I didn't want this to happen.
I didn't want this to happen to Pete. I wanted
to save Pete. Yeah, we had our difference. We knocked
heads on some certain things and everything else. There wasn't
one time that we didn't shake hands or a hug
whenever we saw each other. I didn't want it hanging
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over it. I didn't want this to be part of baseball.
I didn't want it to be a black eye on
baseball to begin with. But I didn't. More importantly, Pete
gave everything to all of us, all of us, and
yet this sickness, this addiction, was too much for him
to overcome.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
He gave you, but he didn't give you what you
ultimately wanted. And that is to help Pete help himself.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, we had a quite a talk out in California
when I was We were at an event together and
he said, can I see you a minute. He came
and he went into a different room and he said,
I apologize. I apologize for everything that I did to
you during the Hall of Fame year. I affected that
how I've affected you after your career because I know
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all the questions are coming about me, and it takes
away from what you achieved, and it probably takes away
from what I achieved. But I'm sorry, I'm I apologize,
And I thought, now is the opportunity, Pete, Now is
the opportunity to really step forward and and say I'm sorry.
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You know, Follo at your feet of everyone and say
I'm sorry, and America would forgive it him. I mean,
you know somebody said, you know, he would have been
even been a worse shooting, you know, better off shooting somebody.
I think than what what this has caused. And we
seem to make you know certain things out of you
know who who took drugs? You know? All right there,
(26:54):
let's go with Barry Bond, Let's go with Roger Clem.
Let's go to Samysus and then we take klee Kin
and maguire, And yet there's guys that probably have taken
it or accused of taking it. You know that's playing
now and played forever and played in the Hall of
Been or in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Probably, But I wonder about this. Let's say Pete didn't manage.
Let's say he was seven years after his career was over.
So he goes in first ballot, he's in the Hall
of Fame, he decides to manage, and then they realize
that he's gambling on baseball. Would the Baseball Hall of
Fame take Pete out? Do you think if he was
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already in for what he did as a player, but
he's accused of gambling as a manager.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I would hope that the club would interject. I would
hope that the club would step up in and say, Pete,
this is a warning. Everybody knows it. I mean, we
have now have all the detectives in the world in
Major League Baseball. They're checking everything that you do. And
if they found out or something that this was a situation,
you know, these are what is you know, what if
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he never made that first bet? What if he had
won his first bet. What if he had not lost
and doubled down? What if all of these things would
have happened. You know, if you don't bet on your
team every night, Okay, that's betting against them that we know.
But if he'd have these are all scenarios that had
he done it, I'm sure that I found out about it.
I was the owner. I would have come down and
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said Pete, no, knock this off, or they would have
fired him on the spot. Because the integrity of baseball
is still the most important thing we have.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What would you say to Commissioner Manfred today. Let's say
he's listening to this interview.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
He's made that decisions, he's had a one on one
with Pete. He's had a one on one hour hour and.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
A half, so no budgeting that that he What did
you hear from that conversation he had with Pete?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Well, we know what his decision was. Nothing. No, you're
not You're not going to be on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But he can't and he and you know this better
than anybody, Johnny, is this commissioner can't make that decision
because you're going against bud Sea League and you're going
against Barciamani, and I don't think he wants. This isn't
a legacy that you want. I mean, he's this commissioner,
has done some good things for baseball. I just don't know.
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It seems hypocritical if you put him in posthumously.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Well, the thing that bothers me today is everything is gambling.
You're probably being sponsored by something. Yes, I mean we're
we're now condoning it, and we're now seeing it. I'm
watching the game yesterday and I see ninety probability the
Braves will win ten percent on the met now they
score three runs out sixty forty. I mean, now you
got it on your phone where you can you can
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bet on swings. They say, you can bet on foul balls,
you can bet on pitchers a tryout. I mean, it's
become part of it. And now we see a couple
of young players who now have been banned from baseball
or at least suspend it. I think that's that's the
thing we have have to have to figure out.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
But I can't.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
But you could always at it differently. Baseball is actually
looking at this differently.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Now, Well, they're doing this to make money off fans.
You can't have the people involved in these games with
the potential to alter the outcome. That's why I know
they're in bed with gambling. But players can't be involved
in this because they can manipulate the outcome, fix a game.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
So soaking the fans Strangely enough, I mean, if you've
ever been to a golf tournament when the guy's in
these backs, when somebody coughs or sneezes, or his phone
happens to chirp or anything else because he doesn't want
him to hit the ball in a fair way, or
he doesn't want all of these their scenarios. These are possibilities. Yes,
I understand the money's out there, and that's what it's
all about, is having the owners and paying for the
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salaries that they've got out there. That's that's understandable. That's
what we do. We're all in it for the dollar.
At this point, is they say, the owners would say,
and that's what we're going to have to do it.
We're gonna give a seven hundred million dollar contract. Somehow
we've got to pay for it. Yeah, I mean you know,
I mean sure that you know even in the wow,
seven hundred million, it's two million, fifty million. That's a lot,
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but it's it. I think baseball is starting to take
a different look at it now. Okay, working doning betting,
and should we take another look at Pete? I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Okay, Uh, your first reaction to when Pete slid head
first when you first saw.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
It, I was doing it in Binger, Oklahoma.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Because Pete was doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
No, no, no, I hadn't seen Pete. This is back
in the early sixties, so I had never TV. I
would know who Pete was in sixty three he came
up as a rookie, so I never saw Pete Rose
head first light. I was head first sliding with ing
the slaughter.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Is he the first one to do a head first slide.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
In a slaughter? Yeah? He was known for that. And
I did the head first slid, and then when I
got up to Cincinnati, Pete was doing the head first slid,
so I didn't do the hip first slide anymore. It's
his deal. I mean, I've never seen anybody. I don't
know if you can call it a slide. I mean,
the statue he has in front of his stadium is perfect. Yeah,
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that is absolutely Pete Rose. That's the way he dove
into everything with aggress aggressiveness. I mean you can see
you can still look back at the nineteen seventy five
World Series when he went into third, if you're going
to remember that base hitting there and he dove in
there like that. I mean he's two feet off the ground,
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flying through the air, and that's the way the statue
and that's a way of pitomize what Pete was. It's
just damn it, Pete. You did it to our us,
you did it to yourself, and we're we're have and
then we have to talk about this. We have to
talk about what was was your life and your life
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no matter how you want to do it, Forty two
hundred hits now goes No. He gambled real twenty one
beats four real twenty one beats for forty two fifty six.
And that's that's the sad thing about it, because God
could he played two hundred. I mean every year, hits, hits, hits,
get in score, run, run the bases as good as anybody.
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And for a guy to give up a position as
an All Star and be no, when when George Foster
was traded over Tony I mean, Smarty goes at the
Pete's on the age you to play third. Okay, he
was second base, then he goes to first base. I mean,
he created everything that he did with the determination and
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and love for the game. I don't think anybody loved
the game more than Pete.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And I hear what you're saying, we should be talking
about Pete the ballplayer, but he what he did overshadowed that,
and it's just hard to get through the trees with it.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
It's the greatest story ever forty two to fifty six.
When he beat Cobb, it was the greatest story. Nobody
can be Nobody there was impossible to beat cop and
then he goes past it. And then he goes past it.
I mean, we can talk about Ripkin and his so
longevity and everything else, but Pete was out there for
one hundred and ninety hits for thirteen years, and we
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brag about a guy who got one hundred and seventy.
Now we look at the top hitters in the game
of baseball and his batting titles and all the stuff,
and all the runs that he scored and all the things,
and no, we got to talk about this, and damn it, Pete,
that's just not the way I wanted to end this.
That's not the way I wanted to see you. Go out.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Stay healthy, Okay, work in my assof stay healthy.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Thank you Daniel too, all right, Love.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
You, Johnny Bench.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Take a break.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Last call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in
store tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Call for phone calls, what we learn, What's in store tomorrow.
I appreciate Johnny Bench coming on. You could hear the
sadness in his voice. I wasn't sure if it was
anger or sadness. Might have been a combination of both.
That we should be looking back on Pete Rose's career
as a baseball player, and what Pete did won't allow
(35:21):
that to happen. It's stood in the way, and we'll
continue to stand in the way. Final results of the
poll question there, Fritzel, We've.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Got exactly fifty to fifty on the poll question, which
was will Pete Rose ever be allowed into Cooperstown posthumously?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yes, eventually or no?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Right down the middle, I want to give a shout
out if you watch on Peacock and the segments in between,
you know, during the commercial breaks. Rob who works in
the back does an unbelievable job in getting timely clips
from interviews, fun things, and just want to say, done
a wonderful job, you know, over the years, and he
(35:59):
reacts in real time of getting you know, if there's
somebody who said something about Pete Rose and you have
that on during the what are the commercial breaks, but
you get to watch that on Peacock. So Rob, thank
you and the other backroom guys who take part in that.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
We appreciate that. Griffin in Cincinnati, Hi Griff, good to
have you back.
Speaker 13 (36:19):
Happy Hooday Tuesday, Dan, I got three quick things for
you in a shout out to Rob as well. Hoo day,
Hoo day. Who they think going to beat them Bengals
three out of the fourteenth they played already, but when
is the win? Doesn't matter?
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Who woke again?
Speaker 13 (36:34):
I am a little nervous for Sunday that the Ravens
are going to break the NFL rushing record in a
single game. That makes me nervous. I have a stepteen VP, Dan,
septeen VP. In college football, the Indiana Hoosiers five and
zero for the first time since nineteen sixty seven. Coach
Sigg has the boys lit up on fire. I'm enjoyed
(36:56):
watching them for the first time in a few years,
and I don't want to back on Pete Road, but
I'm looking forward to the MLB hosting a Moment of
styl and sponsored by Draft Kings. Make sure you to
post five dollars for one hundred dollars into Draft Kings
in the free field. That'll get you a free win
for Draft Kicks.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
All right, well done, Griff, well done, Well done. Dorsey
in North Carolina, Hi, Dorsey, hy Dan?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
How are you today?
Speaker 11 (37:20):
Average third time callar, I'm calling the guys just to
talk to a touch on what I was telling about
the juggernaut that is the Indiana University football team. And
you know, it's very hard to say that because there's
nothing but basketball, but this guy has done a marvelous job.
They're leading the country in touchdowns, there were third in
(37:40):
the country in offense, and their defense is better than
their offense. And somebody needs to give them a little
bit of recognition.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
You just did back to back calls. I didn't plan
this Indiana football who knew, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, I remember a couple of years ago they had
the Michael PENNOCKX spike and they will good. Then they
cool off a little bit. It's a it's a nice return.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
For Okay, who have they played to become five and zero?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh, now you're gonna get fiu.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Fiu too at home Western Illinois the Leatherneck seventy seven
to three U silly forty two thirteen.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I did take note of that, just because they went
cross country and beat us.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Herero Rough Trump Charlotte, which is a school for fifty
two to fourteen, and then they housed Maryland last weekend
forty two to twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Okay, all right, what's their next game?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Well, it gets tougher slowly. Northwestern Nebraska, Washington, Michigan State, Michigan,
Ohio State, Perdue.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Okay, all right, maybe they get bowled. They got one
more for Bowl eligible. About a round of applause for
Indiana football, right, Yeah, I don't know their fight, so
I don't I don't remember. Now, usually remember a fight
song from a football team. It's rarely from a basketball
(39:02):
team that you remember it. Like USC, it was always
that football. You know, they'd play that after every first
down or something. It was great late afternoon at the
coliseum when usc was really good, Sun is shining, man,
they looked awesome, invincible.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Peter King, I think is going to stop by the
studio tomorrow, the retired Peter King. Although I think he's
doing that Let's Go podcast.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Yeah, semi retired doing the Let's Go podcast with Bill
Belichick and Jim Gray.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Okay, Tom Brady? Is Brady still doing it?
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Oh yeah, Okay, Let's go around the room. What we
learned on the program?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Todd?
Speaker 8 (39:42):
Would you learn today the Pete Rose Band was an
employment band, permanently ineligible from holding a job in Major
League Baseball?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
All right, Marvin, what did you learn today?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Herm Edwards likes the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And he also did not trademark. You play to win
the game? Pauli, what did you learn? Pete Rose own
owned the head of her slide, although he took it
from Enos Country Slaughter.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Todd, what did I learn?
Speaker 6 (40:06):
We all learned?
Speaker 8 (40:06):
The Hall of Fame doesn't need permission from mejor League
Baseball to put Pete Rose on the ballot.
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(40:31):
Thank you for the opportunity. Hope you have a great day.
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