October 2, 2024 • 40 mins
NFL insider Albert Breer joins the show to break down the Davante Adams trade request and talk about where he might land. Plus, Dan and the Danettes play “Are You In or Are You Out” to determine which NFL teams/players they believe in this season, and which are pretenders.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick show
Down to Danette. Seaton's out again today. But Fritzy is
in the back row, the Minister of Humor, Marvin and
Pollier in the front row, and yours truly the Monday
Morning quarterback Albert Breer. Last time he was on, he
brought up Bill Belichick and the Jags that got a
lot of headlines nationally. I was told Bill Belichick already
(00:31):
has the outline of a coaching staff. Now, I don't
know if he would take a job during the season.
Let's say Jacksonville opened up, Let's say Philadelphia opened up.
He's got all of these commitments media wise. Does he
jump in and you know, plug and play and now
you bring your coaching staff in. If I'm Bill Belichick,
(00:53):
I would want to wait. Have the whole off season.
I have the draft, I have free agency, like you
have to ramp up to this. But we'll talk to
Albert Breer. But I was told Belichick has an idea
of who he would hire offensive defensive coordinators, et cetera. Also,
Peter King will join us coming up a little bit
later on as well, and we'll have Peter and Albert
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play the Davante Adams where will he be also in
or out?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes? Week three?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, Week three of are you in on a player
or a team or are you out? Eight seven seven
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Todd clean up the our one poll question.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Which team will DeVante Adams be traded?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
To?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Forty seven percent of the Jets? Thirteen percent of the
Chiefs in division? Interesting, and there's a type of third
between the Commanders and Cowboys at about eleven and a
half percent.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Of course, you got to throw the Cowboys in their Steelers.
They're in there. Chiefs listed as a dark horse right
now by a couple of websites here. You also have
the Jets in there, the Buffalo Bills. Now, if I'm Buffalo,
you just got out from under step On Diggs that
you don't want to have a number one wide receiver.
(02:17):
Now you can have a number one wide receiver, you
just don't want one that acts like he's the number
one wide receiver. That personality because they're better off without
Stephan Diggs. It feels like, because now you don't have
to acquiesce to him, you can win. And he had
two catches. May not be happy. Although Josh Allen said
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he wasn't referring to Stephan Diggs when he said, hey,
it's nice to have fun and not have people care
about their stats, what certainly sounded like it was directed
to Stephan Digs. DeVante Adams is great. But if I'm
Buffalo Josh Allen, don't do it. Don't be tempted by that.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you're the Jets, I would definitely do it. If
I'm Aaron Roddy, absolutely, If I'm Aaron Rodgers on the
flight to London, I am restructuring my contract. I'll have
the capologist sit with me and go, okay, what can
we do so I can get Devonte Adams. Well, we'll
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switch it to Euros like whatever it is. We're going
to get him before we land and go play the
Vikings at Tottenham. I think they're at Tottenham Tottenham Hotspur.
I don't think they're at Wembley. But if I'm Aaron Rodgers,
ab absolutely absolutely all right. Poll question for hour two
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is going to be one seed, no count or uh see,
I keep going that out of habits, I have it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
We're going with which wildcard team in an O one
hole is most done?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Which would be the Astros, Braves, Brewers, and Orioles who
fell last night?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now the process of getting results, there's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
A fan base or two that are going to be
surprised at the results that their team is out in
a best of three, and then they're going to be
saying it should have been a best of seven. That's
not fair. Change the look. If you're gonna complain about
the format in the wild card round, you gotta do
it before it starts, not the end result where the
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Astros get knocked out, Braves get knocked out, that's not fair.
You know, two out of three and this is the format.
It makes it far more exciting. Now you have must
see TV. This is what baseball is trying to create,
appointment viewing. They want this. Now you're tuning in too,
(04:39):
Tigers in the Astros because the Astros can be eliminated.
That's what you want. I mean, the Kansas City Royals
may advance. You want to have something that you understand
that's at stake instead of well, all right, it's the
best of seven. They lost the opener. This is now.
It is right and of you. Plus, if you're gonna
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make a name for yourself, you get an opportunity. Whether
it's Bobby Witt Junior, who's probably the second most valuable
player in the American League. You get a pitcher Michael
King with the Padres. You know, there were just a
few players that stood out yesterday. Uh Tarik Schooble, he's
gonna you know, win the cy Young he looked great.
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You got him on the national stage against the Astros
in a big environment. That's what you want. You you
have to, you know, hatch these stars and this is
where you get him to the postseason. And they keep
adding postseason. Person, we're gonna get, We're gonna get. It's
like the NBA when they go, how do we get
(05:45):
Zion into the postseason? I don't know, have a like
a play in tournament? How about a play in tournament
then to the play in tournament. How about we just
call it the Zion Tournament. You know we're gonna get
him in there somehow.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Yes, Paul, it is time for my yearly question that
I asked, do we still not like the Houston Astros
or can we move on?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I think we're six years into this.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't think well, Dodger fans will never move on, right,
Yankee fans aren't going to move on?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
How about the casual fans says Oh, the Astros? Those cheaters?
Is that three years ago?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think they still they're going to hold on for
dear life with this because it wasn't a player using steroids.
This was an entire team cheated right in front of
our ears, and you had a pitching staff that knew
exactly what was going on as well, and nobody said
(06:44):
anything about anything. And if they got punished, then I
think we would have moved on. I think that's if
Bregman and al tuo Vey got suspended for a year,
then I think people would have moved on. We just
we don't feel like they paid the price. Yes, marm
And I.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Think some fans got even more angered when they won
the World Series after you know, like.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You didn't even need it.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
It's almost like the Barry Bonds. Why are you doing steroids?
You're already great? Why do you need another boost?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't think baseball fans will move on. I think
that's always good. I mean, this is gonna be with
L two V when he's in Cooperstown, like it's that
question is going to be there even when he gets
into the Hall of Fame, it's still going to be there.
Now they put do they put that information on his plaque?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean he was He wasn't punished, but it's you know,
they they were punished, The manager and the GM were punished,
lost their jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Two they gotta pay raise.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I saw some people on social media the past couple
of days after Pete Rose passed away, and they're compared
during levels of cheating. Pete Rose never cheated as a player,
officially never cheated.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But do you know that Johnny Bench came pretty close
first time I've ever heard this, saying did he think
Pete was betting when he played? And he said that
he got a call from the FBI saying stay away
from Pete. Now, Pete wasn't caught up in anything other
(08:26):
than gambling. He wasn't a drinker. There was a lot
of smoke there. And do I think Pete gambled as
a player. I do. I don't have any information just
my gut feeling is I think he did. But you
start to get into this, you know, well that guy
did that. Yeah, but this guy did that, Pete. He
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broke a role that's right there in the clubhouse. I mean,
that's the problem with this. There's no sign in the
locker rooms that say, don't use steroids or performance enhancing
drug uggs, don't steal signs. It's don't gamble.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
That was it.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
Don't gamble, and he did and he paid the ultimate price. Yes, boy,
it's still weird.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I think what Marvin said is that the Astros players
that were proven and testified, you know, they got no
punishment whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Not even like a ten game courtesy suspension or.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well then the commissioner comes out and says, it's the
trophy is just a piece of metal, Like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What are you doing.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So so your ultimate prize is meaningless? Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Like it just.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And I know that he had to get cooperation, so
he gave them immunity, and that's the problem. They got
away with it. They got away with it to what degree.
Maybe we'll never find out, but it feels like that's
that's gonna be without two vay the rest of his career.
Let me see a couple of phone calls in here.
(09:58):
How about Tom and North Carolina? Hi Tom, welcome back?
Speaker 8 (10:04):
Hey DP.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I got two quick things.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
So a team that you guys didn't mention earlier as
a team I think needs to go all in in
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, okay, what else?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
The second? The second thing? Uh, could we as the
audience maybe look forward to a dual zoom call when
they UH with Shy and Irvin and James and Virginia
when the Cowboys played the Commanders next month.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I think we could try to, Uh, I think we
could try to orchestrate that. Thank you Tom. We've already
seen James in Virginia. Put Shan Irving up there when
the Cowboys played the Commanders. Chris and Pennsylvania. Hi Chris,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (10:57):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (10:58):
I just want to put this to your uniforms are
poly pats. Okay, you guys went on. You guys went
on the you're on the uniform craze a little bit today.
And the Oakland A's of the early seventies with the
vests and the green undershirt. They had the green stirrups
with the yellow hose and the white spikes. I mean,
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growing up, and I'm a little bit younger than you,
but I remember, man, you all you wanted.
Speaker 12 (11:26):
Were the white spikes.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
But also Dan, as a Cincinnati Red fan, didn't Pete
Rose didn't they have the vest things there with the
uniforms and they had the red undershirt. Yes, I thought,
but those as uniforms.
Speaker 12 (11:40):
You guys talk.
Speaker 11 (11:41):
About popping the white spikes. I mean, Paully, you gotta
check out.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Back, okay, but they had white spikes. Joe Namath had
white spikes a few years prior to that when he
was playing with the Jets. But I love the Oakland
I hated the Oakland A's because they were so good,
but I love those uniforms. And I loved seeing Reggie
Jackson swinging for the downs Man and I loved Vita Blue.
(12:07):
They had so many fun players. I go back to
Campy Campanias. I mean, they had Charlie Finley, crazy owner,
cheap owner, not sure if everybody liked one another on
the team, but Joe, Rudy, Raleigh Fingers they had. They
had a lot of household names back then.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, those seventies eighth uniforms of the green, yellow,
and white. They always wore stirrups. They had the high
knee socks, one of the best in sports. And we
were talking about this the other day. Did Oakland a
still have one of the more original cool uniforms in
all the sports? Do they travel? Do they go to
Vegas with them? Or is it a complete rebrand?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, I don't know. If Oakland owns it.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I would think that the franchise could bring they gonna
Oh you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Think this owner is gonna be like, let's expunge any
memory of the Oakland the Oakland A's.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I hate to say it, but what I've read about
this guy, he's not uh, he doesn't really care about that.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Are they going to be called the A's.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
That's also unclear. But imagine he goes brand new branding
and then does the the old throwback stuff to sell it.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's what the usually the move is that'd be. I
would I would bet they go with complete rebranding in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, I would definitely rebrand if I'm if I want
to make money, yes, sell some merchandise.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
But it'll bother, it'll alienate the wise.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
They're already gone.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Right, they're gone, They're gone.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't think you can make somebody angrier than they
already are. Boxer in New York, Hey, box.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 13 (13:42):
Okay, So me and my mom we're streaming This is
Us a little while back, and we noticed in an
episode you were in it. It was something to do
with the Super Bowl. It's just a little clip on
the TV. Yeah, but I was wondering if you specifically
he did it for that or that was just a
click take.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
No, no, they just took that. Thank you, Boxer. Yeah,
but they asked for permission. But yeah, that was in
the background, But yeah, they did ask for permission. Nick
and Louisville. Then we'll take a break. The Monday morning
quarterback Albert Breer give us his thoughts on DeVante Adams. Hey,
Nick Quo on DP.
Speaker 12 (14:23):
Got a good story about a gentleman's club you guys
are talking about, Paul. You ever been to the Sugar
Shack up in Lake Geneva.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, I've never been there.
Speaker 12 (14:32):
Okay, go across the boarder. Anyway, we're going there for
my buddy's bachelor party and his dad wearing the Jabu
Jabu Lovelace Jersey represent Rutgers as a Rutgers graduate. We're
sitting there having a nice cold couple beers, and a
nice little older dancer gets to be called to a
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stage and her name is Barb. I think we all
spit our beer out all over the place. Really interesting situation,
but so I'm gonna have to go get you guys
Portia Crystal. Now there is a Barb up there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And uh yeah, yeah yeah, but that's Lake Geneva. You
can probably get away with a Barb up there.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Every third woman's name Barb.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah right.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Here's also the lunch lady.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, there's no Sally or Debbie, Anne, Marie, none of
that to the main stage. Can't because it might be
your wife's name. Let's start a train from what I
was told. All righty, take a break here back with
Albert Breer the Monday morning quarterback after this.
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So Michigan and Washington. Okay, Washington struggled a little bit,
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haven't they last game? That sound right? But uh, Michigan
has a great running quarterback. They just don't have a
great passing quarterback. As a quarterback, he's a great runner, yes, Pauli.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The Washington Huskies are three and two. Okay, did they
just lose? Yes, you didn't have to bring that up.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, yeah, that's that's where Okay, but.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It was at Rutgers, and that's what.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, not many people go in there and come out
with a w Yeah, no way in New York market, Yeah,
I still love that. The Big ten one of the
New York market. The New York market's not a college
football market though they don't care. They're college basketball market,
not a college football mark. Hey we got Rutgers, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Yeah, go ahead, take that quick trip from Piscataway, New
Jersey to Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah yeah, good luck. It'll take you a little little
while to get just a little bit yeah, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
I can remember the first Rutgers game. It was on
national TV when they kind of are making a play
for the Big Ten and they go Welcome to the
Big Apple, and they're doing all these exterior shots of
New York City and Broadway, and then they cut quickly
to Piscataway, New Jersey, which is like going to you know, Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think it's probably closer to Philadelphia.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Uh, Logan in Cincinnati. Hi, Logan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
How you doing.
Speaker 14 (17:39):
I'm about six three. I would say a hard to thirty. Okay, Unfortunately,
I fortunately probably have another soft thirty on top of that.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Well, I apologize. So I just wanted to call. I've
been listening listen to you guys that love the show.
Listen in the morning if I'm driving, or listening to
the podcast after you and listen a lot about the
Pep Gross stuff. I'm from Cincinnati, same age as you,
grew up in the same area as you, so it
hurts me when I hear you say he shouldn't get in.
They kind of hurt Yeah. So, I you know, I
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think it's hypocritical because you know, all sports is betting now.
All sports is getting scammered now, So I understand Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know you can't be part of something where you're
affecting the outcome logan, we have to trust the game's integrity.
That's the issue here. You can do ads for DraftKings,
but you can't manipulate or be in the position to
manipulate the outcome. Pete was betting on baseball and games
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he was managing. Pete was aware of the rule. Pete
thought that, you know what, this will pass. I'll get
back in on Pete Rose. It just didn't happen. So
it's not that I didn't love Pete Rose. I did,
But I mean, where do you draw the line? I mean,
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you have to there's something in the locker room that
says you can't bet on baseball. Pete knewitt and it
caused him dearly. He's Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks
senior NFL reporter. You have a situation with DeVante Adams.
He is preferring a trade, not demanding a trade. What's
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the difference between preferring a trade but not demanding a trade.
Speaker 15 (19:38):
It's better pr right, Like It's like somebody saying somebody
applied the franchise tag versus being slapped with the franchise tag,
right like, so it just still a little friendlier.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 15 (19:51):
I think part of it probably Dan is you know,
Davante maybe being a little bit sensitive to the eye
idea that he'd be a malecontent because I do think
like he likes Antonio Pierce and you know, I think
and you know, a nuance this is what like went
on there last year, you know, and the how there
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were a small group of veteran players that you know,
really played a role in getting ap that job in
the first place. And you know, ironically enough, like if
if Deavante Adams has traded, two of the three would
be gone, because the three guys were really Max Crosby,
Josh Jacobs and and DeVante Adams, you know, and so
now you know Jacobs was in Green Bay and Adams
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would both be gone. So I think that's part of
the reason why is because you know, Adams I don't
think does I don't think Adams wants to disrespect Antonio Peers.
But at the same time, his contract sets up in
a way where it's pretty clear he's not going to
be there next year, and you know, as a guy
is turning thirty two in December, I'm sure wanting to
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play for a contender right now and have a chance
to go compete for a super Bowl is a big
priority of his.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, what's he worth? What's it gonna cost? In turn?
And do you do you have a list of teams
pecking order.
Speaker 15 (21:14):
Where you I think the obvious ones are the ones
that he's got. You know, he's got connections to. So
the Jets, you know, obviously played all those years with
Aaron Rodgers, the Saints. You know he has the relationship
with Derek Carr, played in college with him. Derek Carr
is a huge reason why he wanted to be in
Vegas to begin with. So you know, you start with
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those two teams. We're sure the obvious connect the dot teams.
Those teams actually also have guys is number one receivers
and Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave that I think could
take the pressure off of them as an older player,
you know, just in you know what sort of coverage
he's seeing and everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So those are the teams I start with.
Speaker 15 (21:54):
That's for his value. I don't think they're going to
get like a Brandon AYUK type of package. The reality
is a Uk is twenty six, Adams is thirty two.
So I think the more reasonable comps for an Adams
trade would be Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs. And if
you really dig into what those trades were, and you
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both those guys, their production last year was actually a
little bit better than Devonte Adams. And those guys have
better quarterbacks, you know, Diggs had Josh Allen and Keenan
Allen had you had had Justin Herbert. But those guys
had similar production, had had better production, slightly better but
better production last year. Adam, you know, Adams or Alan
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went up wound up getting traded from the Chargers to
the Bears for a fourth round pick. Diggs got traded
from you know, Buffalo to the Texans for a future
second round pick. So a second round pick that was
a year out and fifth and sixth round picks went
to Houston with Digs, So there was a gear back there.
So that's roughly the value of a third rounder. So
(23:00):
I think that's what you're looking at here, probably a
three or a four. My guess is that Vegas probably
wouldn't move DeVante Adams for a four. I think some
teams will try to go fishing and see if a
four would do it. Ultimately, I think a three is
probably what winds up being the price.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, I was told to two, but that might be
a two. That's what Vegas wants, But that doesn't mean
that's what Vegas is going.
Speaker 15 (23:22):
That's what I'm saying, Yeah, I mean what Vegas wants
Vegas is actually going to ask for is obviously going
to ask for.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
A little bit more, I'd be.
Speaker 15 (23:29):
I mean, I think the value probably most teams would tell.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You is a three or a four. But then what
does Max Cronsby do? Does he prefer a trade after
Davante to trade?
Speaker 15 (23:44):
You know, Like, I think it's certainly a question, you know.
I I don't think the Raiders as competitive as they've
been in Antonio Pierce deserves a lot of credit for this.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There aren't very many spots in their.
Speaker 15 (23:55):
Rosters that that that that don't qualify as need positions, right,
So this is a very real ground up rebuild for
Tom Tolasco and Antonio Pierce. They are not close, but
I think they are walking this tightrope of we know
we need to rebuild the roster, but we also need
to provide the new coaching staff some proof of concept
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and not make it look like we're taking this thing
down to the studs. So, you know, I think with Crosby,
it sort of rides a little bit more on where
are you on Halloween right when you're you know whatever,
it is a week two weeks out from the trade deadline?
What does your record look like? Are you still in
the race. If you're still competing for a playoff spot,
(24:41):
then I think you keep Max Crosby, you know, and
I think you do it almost regardless.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Of what he wants. But ef that's the case, then
are you keeping DeVante Adams as well that you're in
the playoff for.
Speaker 15 (24:53):
No, Because I think I think at this point, like
Davante Adams is DeVante Adams isn't a building block for
you going forward to Crosby.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I have to look up his agen twenty seven twenty Okay, So.
Speaker 15 (25:03):
Like Crosby, like let's say, if you're if you're Telesco
and and Pierce right now you say, realistically, realistically, we
can build this into a contender, a real contender in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
How much does Atoms have left in twenty twenty six,
not much.
Speaker 15 (25:23):
How much does Crosby have left.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Hold a lot? Yeah right, yeah, probably still a really
good But if you're the Raiders, don't you try to
trade Adams like now, like immediate are you gonna Are
you gonna go all the way up to the deadline,
because yeah, you're not gonna.
Speaker 15 (25:40):
Drag this out. No, I do not think you want
to drag this out where you get into the you know,
phantom injury thing, you know what I mean, Like you
just might have that room. What he's dealing with this
week was that. I'm not saying that, but like, I
don't think you want.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
To deal with that on a week to week basis.
Speaker 15 (25:56):
I don't think that that winds up being something that
is good for your locker room, is good for your program.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So I'm with you on that, Like I don't I.
Speaker 15 (26:03):
Don't think you're going to get markedly more for DeVante
Adams a month from now than you would now now.
I mean, like, could you get a little bit more
because some team gets into an emergency injury situation. That's
certainly possible, you know, but I do think, like you
look at this and you say it'd be better if
we just get a resolution on this now, and then
we get a real view of where our team is
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over the next few weeks without Davonte Adams as part
of the equation. And then you know, we make decisions
on guys like Max Crosby and others on the roster
that maybe we could get some value back for.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
He's Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback lanch time you run,
you floated out there? Bill Belichick and the Jags. The
Jags continue to go in the wrong direction here. Do
you think Bill Belichick has his staff in mind that
would he plug and play with something like this or
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would he want to wait and give me the entire offseason,
not come in right away and be judged on somebody
else's team.
Speaker 15 (27:05):
I mean, like, I don't think he's coming in right away. Like,
if that's what you're asking, when was the lost time
that happened?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, if they if they continue to lose, right, are
they going to make it? So you think this owner
would give Doug Peterson the rest of the season. No,
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 15 (27:20):
I'm not saying that, Like I I look like I
look at it like they're they got a division game
this week. If they lose Indianapolis, they go to London
in oh to five. If they go to London in
oh and five, that's an embarrassing thing for a billionaire.
Billionaires don't like being.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
In and that's his, that's his city, that's his.
Speaker 15 (27:38):
And then yeah, and then you're going to a place
where he owns a soccer team, he owns Foham and
he's invested a lot in making the Jaguars a factor
in that city. They're going there own five. Then they
wind up coming back on seven. I think all that's
are off, you know, because that would mean they have
lost to the Bears and Patriots, all due respect, that's
not losing to the Chiefs and Niners.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know.
Speaker 15 (27:57):
So, like, I don't know, Like I I think, you know,
I like, I think there's a possibility that that that
this could be a mid season thing. I wouldn't rule
that out, but I just don't know how you go about,
you know, bringing in a new head coach in mid season,
if that's what you're asking you, you know, I think
they would. I think they would, you know, pick whoever
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on the staff and make Ryan Nielson the defensive coordinator
and make them the interim coach and then you know,
if you wanted to get a head start, you maybe
start working in the background with someone like Bill you
know what I mean. Like on that, now, could you
go and get a new general manager that I think
is possible like that we've seen that that.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I believe it was the.
Speaker 15 (28:39):
Browns that did that with John Dorsey years ago, right
like at the end of maybe at the end of
the Hugh Jackson. Now, yeah, it was while Hugh Jackson
was the coach when they brought Dorsey in in December.
And there are a number of guys that Belichick has
worked with, you know, Scott Pioli, John Robinson, Thomas de
Mittrov that are out there that don't have that that
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that don't that aren't working for NFL teams right now
that you might be able to to to install as
your general manager if you were going to make major
changes in mid season. That's aid to answer to the
other part of your question, Like I think Bill has
a real good idea of who you have on his staff.
Like I think that there would be bringing the band
back together element to all of this, Like I I
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think Josh McDaniels would be part of the equation Matt Patricia,
Joe Judge, Like, I think there'd be a lot of
familiar names as as part of the next staff wherever
Bill Lands.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You think Christian McCaffrey plays this season.
Speaker 15 (29:34):
I do, I you know, I think that this is
I mean, you and I both know this, right, Like
you've been around sports longer than me. But I know
well enough to know when an athlete goes over to Germany,
it's not for evaluation, it's for treatment, right, So, you know,
I I sort of the thing the thing that reminds
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me of the most is Andrew Locke, you know, like
when Andrew Luck just could not get in front of
the injuries that he had and kind of kept trying
to find different solutions and it just kind of became
too much for him. Now I'm not saying that McCaffrey's
going to become lock here, you know, but it's certainly concerning,
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you know, like.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That that he just can't seem to get in front
of this right now. So I think they find a way.
Speaker 15 (30:26):
I think that that that that a lot of this
is uncertain at this point, you know, and and and
how he feels. What I do know is I I
think they're going to find a way to get him
on the field, because I think maccaffrey's determined to get
back on the field.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I would never.
Speaker 15 (30:41):
Doubt that guy's drive, like in his his will, and
I think he's gonna want to find a way to
get back out there. Finding the most judicious way to
do that is the question. And that's how that started
in the first place. Dan, Like I I think you
know they're feeling coming out of out of week one.
Week two is like, okay, well, if this is the
NFC Championship game, he could have played, right, But this
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is langered to the point where it's you know, now
you're taking trips to.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Germany and everything else. I think there's a real level.
Speaker 15 (31:10):
Of determination on McCaffrey's part to be a part of
the Niners, like drive for Super Bowl this year, and
you know, I think the fact that this could be
the one of the final shots that this particular group
of players has at it together is a motivator too.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So I think he finds a way out there.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
The question is what forum, and you know what sort
of condition he's going to be in when he gets
out there, And I'm not sure like even he knows
that until he actually goes out there and tests how
the treatment worked on the practice field.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
The two tongue of ilois situation. Not many guys go
in concussion protocol and end up on the IR but
not many players have suffered the concussions that two a
hat does to a play for the Dolphins this season.
Speaker 15 (31:58):
Yes, and I say that like everybody else, you know,
waiting to see what comes of everything that he's done
and is doing with specialists. So I don't want to
put it on him that I'm guaranteeing anything, but I
I would say like that, there are zero people I've
talked to around Tua that think that he is even
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considering retiring or wanting to shut it down. And I
think the dolphins own actions here would tell you that
they're giving him every chance. I think the act of
putting him on an injured reserve was very, very smart
by the Dolphins, and I think the idea there was
to take the pressure off of.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Everybody doing that.
Speaker 15 (32:40):
Sidelining him for four games took the pressure off the coaches,
took the pressure off of Tua himself, took the pressure
off the trainers, took the pressure off, the doctors, took
the pressure off of everybody so he could make a
coherent decision on his future. I think he badly wants
to play again, and I think it's easy for the
rest of us to play mom and dad out there
and say I would never let my kid go back
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out there. And it was pointing for me listening to
like Tony Gonzalez's commentary right after the game and saying,
if that was my son, I wouldn't let him play.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think we all feel that way.
Speaker 15 (33:10):
If that was our son, if that was our brother,
if that was our dad, if that was our uncle,
we wouldn't want him going out there, right. But this
is to his decision, you know. And I think the
psychology of the pro athlete is an interesting one because
you know, you have something that you're so elite at
that somebody's willing to pay you millions for it, and
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it's been part of your identity since you were a
little kid. And invariably for all of these guys, at
some point in their twenties or thirties, somebody's going to
tap them on the shoulder and tell them that they
cannot do that anymore. And they still have more than
half of their life to live, right, it's a really
it's an interesting psychological thing there. And you know, Toua
now being in that position in his mid twenties, that's
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a tough spot to be in for a player. And
you know, so I can understand both sides of it.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think like the rest of us look at and say,
we would never let it.
Speaker 15 (34:02):
We would never want our brother or our son, or
our again, our dad or our uncle wanting going back
out there after what two has been through. But the
psychology of a pro athlete is very different than that.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, because if Tony Gonzalez was the player, Tony Gonzalez
would go out there and play exactly now he's saying,
you know, fifteen years.
Speaker 15 (34:22):
Which is totally understandable too.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right, Yeah, I get it, I get it. But the
mentality of the player is going to continue to play. Yeah,
And I think it was really interesting too.
Speaker 15 (34:31):
Just one last thing on that, what Mike McDaniel's comment
where he said, like you're the quarterback of your family
right like that ultimately is who he has to answer
to two. It doesn't have to answer to the Dolphins.
He doesn't have to answer He thinks he's got to
answer to his locker room, right, which is the natural
mentality the athlete and the coaching staff, ultimately the people.
He's got to answer to to the people who live
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under the same roof as him, not us.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Thank you, Albert, you got it. Thanks dam He's the
Monday morning quarterback. Will take a break, we play Are
You In or Are You Out?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
We'll get to phone calls coming up. By the way,
I have the updated odds on who's going to win
the Super Bowl according to DraftKings, the Chiefs, followed by
the Niners, Ravens, Bills, and then the Lions. So the
Chief's still the big favorite, then the Niners, Ravens, Bills,
and Lions. I'm surprised that the Lions are fifth here.
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I thought they might be a little bit higher there.
It feels like they're the best team in the NFC.
All right, time to play are You In or You're Out?
PAULI give us the guidelines as the host of In
or Out?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Thanks Dan. Week three of interor Out?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Do we have music for in a round.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Oh yeah, that's original. I'm going to read a statement.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
You either say I'm in, which means you back that
statement or in on it, or I'm out.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm not with that, Okay, I'm not with follow that, Okay,
feel me, marvh I feel you.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
The Raiders should not trade Davante Adams to the Chiefs,
even if it's the best offer.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I'm in on that.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I mean, and you can't help them, right you cannot?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
No, no, no, don't take the call or unless drive
up the trade market.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Unless they go we're going to give you a first
round draft pick. And then you go, okay, so you're
out then no, but they're not giving you a first
round draft pick, and you're back in. I'm in, Okay,
in or out.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
The Minnesota Viking will win the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I'm out. I'm in. Oh, I'm into. I took the
Lions to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (36:58):
I can't say the Viking is going to win the
l I mean, I guess I could, but the Lions
could still win the Super Bowl. You're out on bailing all.
I'm out on bailing.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
If the Commanders win the NFA East, the Commanders win
the NFC East Jaden Daniels should win league MVP. It's
the second worst record in football last year.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
Inter out, Well, if they win the division, and he's
obviously would have to ball out, as they say, like
kids like to say, yeah the kids, Okay, So am
I in that he would be the MVP. He'd have
the numbers to go with winning the division and the
story and.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The I'm going to be in. I'm in, all right,
I'm going to go in.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
All right, Dan, I'm out.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
I'm out.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Not necessarily, not a lot of rookies win MVP. I
think Jim Brown did it. Yeah, Okay, we're due a
couple more.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
The NFL should permanently stagger doubleheader games every Monday night.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I'm in, Oh, I.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Mean, I am out.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I don't think we need two games every single mon.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They Yeah, but you're guaranteed at least one good game. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
You could even do like a seven o'clock Eastern start
for the East Coast Ish game, Yeah, and then a
nine o'clock start for the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I'm in, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, a couple more.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
The Miami Dolphins will have the number one pick of
the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm out.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
I'm out out.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
They scored forty five points in four.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Games, and it's the only room for improvement. The Hunley
Era two is coming back.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Okay, this is the last one, and I got to
workshop this one a little bit. O Army football and
Navy football. They're both undefeated in October. If here's a bonus,
both Army and Navy play Notre Dame neutral site this year.
If either Army or Navy run the table, one of
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the two will be in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Who else does Army play besides Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Well, Army has waxed everybody so far. They're literally running
over people. The only big teams they play are at
Notre Dame. They play the AAC Conference championship game, which
is always a burner, and they finished with Navy, who
could be undefeated. Navy, they don't have a huge schedule here,
but they play Notre Dame in October National TV.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
But that's a neutral site.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Yeah, East Rutherford, and then the Army Notre Dame is
at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think in November going to that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Now there would be public sentiment to get one of
the service academies in.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
The Army, Navy game could be for a playoff spot
and that again this is forward thinking. But if they're
both undefeated.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I'm going in America. Yeah, I'm a patriot. I'm mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Too, let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Fritzy is gonna be out on that.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
But I was very close to saying I.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Think you're right though.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
The public sentiment around an Army or Navy last seed
in the in the playoffs would be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm in Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Is there a way we can get like a playoff
game at West Point?
Speaker 11 (40:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
No, they would likely arm your Navy.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Lest they have to host. They'd have to be one
of the top seats.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Maybe the president could like make a decreer. Oh really,
Richard Nixon would have done that. Yeah, but they don't
have their stadium done.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
They do not. Ye, you're renovating right now.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna try to
go up there in a couple of weeks. That is,
I'm in on going up to West Point. I see
you again. The popular Peter King is he semi retired?
He'll join us coming up in the band cave. More
phone calls as well. Two hours in the books already
on this Wednesday, final hour on the way, right after
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this
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick show
Down to Danette. Seaton's out again today. But Fritzy is
in the back row, the Minister of Humor, Marvin and
Pollier in the front row, and yours truly the Monday
Morning quarterback Albert Breer. Last time he was on, he
brought up Bill Belichick and the Jags that got a
lot of headlines nationally. I was told Bill Belichick already
(00:31):
has the outline of a coaching staff. Now, I don't
know if he would take a job during the season.
Let's say Jacksonville opened up, Let's say Philadelphia opened up.
He's got all of these commitments media wise. Does he
jump in and you know, plug and play and now
you bring your coaching staff in. If I'm Bill Belichick,
(00:53):
I would want to wait. Have the whole off season.
I have the draft, I have free agency, like you
have to ramp up to this. But we'll talk to
Albert Breer. But I was told Belichick has an idea
of who he would hire offensive defensive coordinators, et cetera. Also,
Peter King will join us coming up a little bit
later on as well, and we'll have Peter and Albert
(01:15):
play the Davante Adams where will he be also in
or out?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes? Week three?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, Week three of are you in on a player
or a team or are you out? Eight seven seven
to three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter
handle on DP show stat of the day brought to
you by Penny America, the official trading cards of the program,
Todd clean up the our one poll question.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Which team will DeVante Adams be traded?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
To?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Forty seven percent of the Jets? Thirteen percent of the
Chiefs in division? Interesting, and there's a type of third
between the Commanders and Cowboys at about eleven and a
half percent.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Of course, you got to throw the Cowboys in their Steelers.
They're in there. Chiefs listed as a dark horse right
now by a couple of websites here. You also have
the Jets in there, the Buffalo Bills. Now, if I'm Buffalo,
you just got out from under step On Diggs that
you don't want to have a number one wide receiver.
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Now you can have a number one wide receiver, you
just don't want one that acts like he's the number
one wide receiver. That personality because they're better off without
Stephan Diggs. It feels like, because now you don't have
to acquiesce to him, you can win. And he had
two catches. May not be happy. Although Josh Allen said
(02:40):
he wasn't referring to Stephan Diggs when he said, hey,
it's nice to have fun and not have people care
about their stats, what certainly sounded like it was directed
to Stephan Digs. DeVante Adams is great. But if I'm
Buffalo Josh Allen, don't do it. Don't be tempted by that.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you're the Jets, I would definitely do it. If
I'm Aaron Roddy, absolutely, If I'm Aaron Rodgers on the
flight to London, I am restructuring my contract. I'll have
the capologist sit with me and go, okay, what can
we do so I can get Devonte Adams. Well, we'll
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switch it to Euros like whatever it is. We're going
to get him before we land and go play the
Vikings at Tottenham. I think they're at Tottenham Tottenham Hotspur.
I don't think they're at Wembley. But if I'm Aaron Rodgers,
ab absolutely absolutely all right. Poll question for hour two
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is going to be one seed, no count or uh see,
I keep going that out of habits, I have it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
We're going with which wildcard team in an O one
hole is most done?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Which would be the Astros, Braves, Brewers, and Orioles who
fell last night?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now the process of getting results, there's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
A fan base or two that are going to be
surprised at the results that their team is out in
a best of three, and then they're going to be
saying it should have been a best of seven. That's
not fair. Change the look. If you're gonna complain about
the format in the wild card round, you gotta do
it before it starts, not the end result where the
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Astros get knocked out, Braves get knocked out, that's not fair.
You know, two out of three and this is the format.
It makes it far more exciting. Now you have must
see TV. This is what baseball is trying to create,
appointment viewing. They want this. Now you're tuning in too,
(04:39):
Tigers in the Astros because the Astros can be eliminated.
That's what you want. I mean, the Kansas City Royals
may advance. You want to have something that you understand
that's at stake instead of well, all right, it's the
best of seven. They lost the opener. This is now.
It is right and of you. Plus, if you're gonna
(05:02):
make a name for yourself, you get an opportunity. Whether
it's Bobby Witt Junior, who's probably the second most valuable
player in the American League. You get a pitcher Michael
King with the Padres. You know, there were just a
few players that stood out yesterday. Uh Tarik Schooble, he's
gonna you know, win the cy Young he looked great.
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You got him on the national stage against the Astros
in a big environment. That's what you want. You you
have to, you know, hatch these stars and this is
where you get him to the postseason. And they keep
adding postseason. Person, we're gonna get, We're gonna get. It's
like the NBA when they go, how do we get
(05:45):
Zion into the postseason? I don't know, have a like
a play in tournament? How about a play in tournament
then to the play in tournament. How about we just
call it the Zion Tournament. You know we're gonna get
him in there somehow.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Yes, Paul, it is time for my yearly question that
I asked, do we still not like the Houston Astros
or can we move on?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I think we're six years into this.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't think well, Dodger fans will never move on, right,
Yankee fans aren't going to move on?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
How about the casual fans says Oh, the Astros? Those cheaters?
Is that three years ago?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think they still they're going to hold on for
dear life with this because it wasn't a player using steroids.
This was an entire team cheated right in front of
our ears, and you had a pitching staff that knew
exactly what was going on as well, and nobody said
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anything about anything. And if they got punished, then I
think we would have moved on. I think that's if
Bregman and al tuo Vey got suspended for a year,
then I think people would have moved on. We just
we don't feel like they paid the price. Yes, marm
And I.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Think some fans got even more angered when they won
the World Series after you know, like.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You didn't even need it.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
It's almost like the Barry Bonds. Why are you doing steroids?
You're already great? Why do you need another boost?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't think baseball fans will move on. I think
that's always good. I mean, this is gonna be with
L two V when he's in Cooperstown, like it's that
question is going to be there even when he gets
into the Hall of Fame, it's still going to be there.
Now they put do they put that information on his plaque?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean he was He wasn't punished, but it's you know,
they they were punished, The manager and the GM were punished,
lost their jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Two they gotta pay raise.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I saw some people on social media the past couple
of days after Pete Rose passed away, and they're compared
during levels of cheating. Pete Rose never cheated as a player,
officially never cheated.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But do you know that Johnny Bench came pretty close
first time I've ever heard this, saying did he think
Pete was betting when he played? And he said that
he got a call from the FBI saying stay away
from Pete. Now, Pete wasn't caught up in anything other
(08:26):
than gambling. He wasn't a drinker. There was a lot
of smoke there. And do I think Pete gambled as
a player. I do. I don't have any information just
my gut feeling is I think he did. But you
start to get into this, you know, well that guy
did that. Yeah, but this guy did that, Pete. He
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broke a role that's right there in the clubhouse. I mean,
that's the problem with this. There's no sign in the
locker rooms that say, don't use steroids or performance enhancing
drug uggs, don't steal signs. It's don't gamble.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
That was it.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
Don't gamble, and he did and he paid the ultimate price. Yes, boy,
it's still weird.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I think what Marvin said is that the Astros players
that were proven and testified, you know, they got no
punishment whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Not even like a ten game courtesy suspension or.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well then the commissioner comes out and says, it's the
trophy is just a piece of metal, Like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What are you doing.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So so your ultimate prize is meaningless? Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Like it just.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And I know that he had to get cooperation, so
he gave them immunity, and that's the problem. They got
away with it. They got away with it to what degree.
Maybe we'll never find out, but it feels like that's
that's gonna be without two vay the rest of his career.
Let me see a couple of phone calls in here.
(09:58):
How about Tom and North Carolina? Hi Tom, welcome back?
Speaker 8 (10:04):
Hey DP.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I got two quick things.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
So a team that you guys didn't mention earlier as
a team I think needs to go all in in
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, okay, what else?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
The second? The second thing? Uh, could we as the
audience maybe look forward to a dual zoom call when
they UH with Shy and Irvin and James and Virginia
when the Cowboys played the Commanders next month.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I think we could try to, Uh, I think we
could try to orchestrate that. Thank you Tom. We've already
seen James in Virginia. Put Shan Irving up there when
the Cowboys played the Commanders. Chris and Pennsylvania. Hi Chris,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (10:57):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 11 (10:58):
I just want to put this to your uniforms are
poly pats. Okay, you guys went on. You guys went
on the you're on the uniform craze a little bit today.
And the Oakland A's of the early seventies with the
vests and the green undershirt. They had the green stirrups
with the yellow hose and the white spikes. I mean,
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growing up, and I'm a little bit younger than you,
but I remember, man, you all you wanted.
Speaker 12 (11:26):
Were the white spikes.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
But also Dan, as a Cincinnati Red fan, didn't Pete
Rose didn't they have the vest things there with the
uniforms and they had the red undershirt. Yes, I thought,
but those as uniforms.
Speaker 12 (11:40):
You guys talk.
Speaker 11 (11:41):
About popping the white spikes. I mean, Paully, you gotta
check out.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Back, okay, but they had white spikes. Joe Namath had
white spikes a few years prior to that when he
was playing with the Jets. But I love the Oakland
I hated the Oakland A's because they were so good,
but I love those uniforms. And I loved seeing Reggie
Jackson swinging for the downs Man and I loved Vita Blue.
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They had so many fun players. I go back to
Campy Campanias. I mean, they had Charlie Finley, crazy owner,
cheap owner, not sure if everybody liked one another on
the team, but Joe, Rudy, Raleigh Fingers they had. They
had a lot of household names back then.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, those seventies eighth uniforms of the green, yellow,
and white. They always wore stirrups. They had the high
knee socks, one of the best in sports. And we
were talking about this the other day. Did Oakland a
still have one of the more original cool uniforms in
all the sports? Do they travel? Do they go to
Vegas with them? Or is it a complete rebrand?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, I don't know. If Oakland owns it.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I would think that the franchise could bring they gonna
Oh you.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Think this owner is gonna be like, let's expunge any
memory of the Oakland the Oakland A's.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I hate to say it, but what I've read about
this guy, he's not uh, he doesn't really care about that.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Are they going to be called the A's.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
That's also unclear. But imagine he goes brand new branding
and then does the the old throwback stuff to sell it.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's what the usually the move is that'd be. I
would I would bet they go with complete rebranding in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, I would definitely rebrand if I'm if I want
to make money, yes, sell some merchandise.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
But it'll bother, it'll alienate the wise.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
They're already gone.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Right, they're gone, They're gone.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't think you can make somebody angrier than they
already are. Boxer in New York, Hey, box.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 13 (13:42):
Okay, So me and my mom we're streaming This is
Us a little while back, and we noticed in an
episode you were in it. It was something to do
with the Super Bowl. It's just a little clip on
the TV. Yeah, but I was wondering if you specifically
he did it for that or that was just a
click take.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
No, no, they just took that. Thank you, Boxer. Yeah,
but they asked for permission. But yeah, that was in
the background, But yeah, they did ask for permission. Nick
and Louisville. Then we'll take a break. The Monday morning
quarterback Albert Breer give us his thoughts on DeVante Adams. Hey,
Nick Quo on DP.
Speaker 12 (14:23):
Got a good story about a gentleman's club you guys
are talking about, Paul. You ever been to the Sugar
Shack up in Lake Geneva.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, I've never been there.
Speaker 12 (14:32):
Okay, go across the boarder. Anyway, we're going there for
my buddy's bachelor party and his dad wearing the Jabu
Jabu Lovelace Jersey represent Rutgers as a Rutgers graduate. We're
sitting there having a nice cold couple beers, and a
nice little older dancer gets to be called to a
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stage and her name is Barb. I think we all
spit our beer out all over the place. Really interesting situation,
but so I'm gonna have to go get you guys
Portia Crystal. Now there is a Barb up there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And uh yeah, yeah yeah, but that's Lake Geneva. You
can probably get away with a Barb up there.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Every third woman's name Barb.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah right.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Here's also the lunch lady.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, there's no Sally or Debbie, Anne, Marie, none of
that to the main stage. Can't because it might be
your wife's name. Let's start a train from what I
was told. All righty, take a break here back with
Albert Breer the Monday morning quarterback after this.
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So Michigan and Washington. Okay, Washington struggled a little bit,
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haven't they last game? That sound right? But uh, Michigan
has a great running quarterback. They just don't have a
great passing quarterback. As a quarterback, he's a great runner, yes, Pauli.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The Washington Huskies are three and two. Okay, did they
just lose? Yes, you didn't have to bring that up.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, yeah, that's that's where Okay, but.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It was at Rutgers, and that's what.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, not many people go in there and come out
with a w Yeah, no way in New York market, Yeah,
I still love that. The Big ten one of the
New York market. The New York market's not a college
football market though they don't care. They're college basketball market,
not a college football mark. Hey we got Rutgers, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Yeah, go ahead, take that quick trip from Piscataway, New
Jersey to Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah yeah, good luck. It'll take you a little little
while to get just a little bit yeah, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
I can remember the first Rutgers game. It was on
national TV when they kind of are making a play
for the Big Ten and they go Welcome to the
Big Apple, and they're doing all these exterior shots of
New York City and Broadway, and then they cut quickly
to Piscataway, New Jersey, which is like going to you know, Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I think it's probably closer to Philadelphia.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Uh, Logan in Cincinnati. Hi, Logan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
How you doing.
Speaker 14 (17:39):
I'm about six three. I would say a hard to thirty. Okay, Unfortunately,
I fortunately probably have another soft thirty on top of that.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
Well, I apologize. So I just wanted to call. I've
been listening listen to you guys that love the show.
Listen in the morning if I'm driving, or listening to
the podcast after you and listen a lot about the
Pep Gross stuff. I'm from Cincinnati, same age as you,
grew up in the same area as you, so it
hurts me when I hear you say he shouldn't get in.
They kind of hurt Yeah. So, I you know, I
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think it's hypocritical because you know, all sports is betting now.
All sports is getting scammered now, So I understand Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know you can't be part of something where you're
affecting the outcome logan, we have to trust the game's integrity.
That's the issue here. You can do ads for DraftKings,
but you can't manipulate or be in the position to
manipulate the outcome. Pete was betting on baseball and games
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he was managing. Pete was aware of the rule. Pete
thought that, you know what, this will pass. I'll get
back in on Pete Rose. It just didn't happen. So
it's not that I didn't love Pete Rose. I did,
But I mean, where do you draw the line? I mean,
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you have to there's something in the locker room that
says you can't bet on baseball. Pete knewitt and it
caused him dearly. He's Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks
senior NFL reporter. You have a situation with DeVante Adams.
He is preferring a trade, not demanding a trade. What's
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the difference between preferring a trade but not demanding a trade.
Speaker 15 (19:38):
It's better pr right, Like It's like somebody saying somebody
applied the franchise tag versus being slapped with the franchise tag,
right like, so it just still a little friendlier.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 15 (19:51):
I think part of it probably Dan is you know,
Davante maybe being a little bit sensitive to the eye
idea that he'd be a malecontent because I do think
like he likes Antonio Pierce and you know, I think
and you know, a nuance this is what like went
on there last year, you know, and the how there
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were a small group of veteran players that you know,
really played a role in getting ap that job in
the first place. And you know, ironically enough, like if
if Deavante Adams has traded, two of the three would
be gone, because the three guys were really Max Crosby,
Josh Jacobs and and DeVante Adams, you know, and so
now you know Jacobs was in Green Bay and Adams
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would both be gone. So I think that's part of
the reason why is because you know, Adams I don't
think does I don't think Adams wants to disrespect Antonio Peers.
But at the same time, his contract sets up in
a way where it's pretty clear he's not going to
be there next year, and you know, as a guy
is turning thirty two in December, I'm sure wanting to
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play for a contender right now and have a chance
to go compete for a super Bowl is a big
priority of his.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, what's he worth? What's it gonna cost? In turn?
And do you do you have a list of teams
pecking order.
Speaker 15 (21:14):
Where you I think the obvious ones are the ones
that he's got. You know, he's got connections to. So
the Jets, you know, obviously played all those years with
Aaron Rodgers, the Saints. You know he has the relationship
with Derek Carr, played in college with him. Derek Carr
is a huge reason why he wanted to be in
Vegas to begin with. So you know, you start with
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those two teams. We're sure the obvious connect the dot teams.
Those teams actually also have guys is number one receivers
and Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave that I think could
take the pressure off of them as an older player,
you know, just in you know what sort of coverage
he's seeing and everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So those are the teams I start with.
Speaker 15 (21:54):
That's for his value. I don't think they're going to
get like a Brandon AYUK type of package. The reality
is a Uk is twenty six, Adams is thirty two.
So I think the more reasonable comps for an Adams
trade would be Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs. And if
you really dig into what those trades were, and you
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both those guys, their production last year was actually a
little bit better than Devonte Adams. And those guys have
better quarterbacks, you know, Diggs had Josh Allen and Keenan
Allen had you had had Justin Herbert. But those guys
had similar production, had had better production, slightly better but
better production last year. Adam, you know, Adams or Alan
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went up wound up getting traded from the Chargers to
the Bears for a fourth round pick. Diggs got traded
from you know, Buffalo to the Texans for a future
second round pick. So a second round pick that was
a year out and fifth and sixth round picks went
to Houston with Digs, So there was a gear back there.
So that's roughly the value of a third rounder. So
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I think that's what you're looking at here, probably a
three or a four. My guess is that Vegas probably
wouldn't move DeVante Adams for a four. I think some
teams will try to go fishing and see if a
four would do it. Ultimately, I think a three is
probably what winds up being the price.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, I was told to two, but that might be
a two. That's what Vegas wants, But that doesn't mean
that's what Vegas is going.
Speaker 15 (23:22):
That's what I'm saying, Yeah, I mean what Vegas wants
Vegas is actually going to ask for is obviously going
to ask for.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
A little bit more, I'd be.
Speaker 15 (23:29):
I mean, I think the value probably most teams would tell.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You is a three or a four. But then what
does Max Cronsby do? Does he prefer a trade after
Davante to trade?
Speaker 15 (23:44):
You know, Like, I think it's certainly a question, you know.
I I don't think the Raiders as competitive as they've
been in Antonio Pierce deserves a lot of credit for this.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There aren't very many spots in their.
Speaker 15 (23:55):
Rosters that that that that don't qualify as need positions, right,
So this is a very real ground up rebuild for
Tom Tolasco and Antonio Pierce. They are not close, but
I think they are walking this tightrope of we know
we need to rebuild the roster, but we also need
to provide the new coaching staff some proof of concept
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and not make it look like we're taking this thing
down to the studs. So, you know, I think with Crosby,
it sort of rides a little bit more on where
are you on Halloween right when you're you know whatever,
it is a week two weeks out from the trade deadline?
What does your record look like? Are you still in
the race. If you're still competing for a playoff spot,
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then I think you keep Max Crosby, you know, and
I think you do it almost regardless.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Of what he wants. But ef that's the case, then
are you keeping DeVante Adams as well that you're in
the playoff for.
Speaker 15 (24:53):
No, Because I think I think at this point, like
Davante Adams is DeVante Adams isn't a building block for
you going forward to Crosby.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I have to look up his agen twenty seven twenty Okay, So.
Speaker 15 (25:03):
Like Crosby, like let's say, if you're if you're Telesco
and and Pierce right now you say, realistically, realistically, we
can build this into a contender, a real contender in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
How much does Atoms have left in twenty twenty six,
not much.
Speaker 15 (25:23):
How much does Crosby have left.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Hold a lot? Yeah right, yeah, probably still a really
good But if you're the Raiders, don't you try to
trade Adams like now, like immediate are you gonna Are
you gonna go all the way up to the deadline,
because yeah, you're not gonna.
Speaker 15 (25:40):
Drag this out. No, I do not think you want
to drag this out where you get into the you know,
phantom injury thing, you know what I mean, Like you
just might have that room. What he's dealing with this
week was that. I'm not saying that, but like, I
don't think you want.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
To deal with that on a week to week basis.
Speaker 15 (25:56):
I don't think that that winds up being something that
is good for your locker room, is good for your program.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So I'm with you on that, Like I don't I.
Speaker 15 (26:03):
Don't think you're going to get markedly more for DeVante
Adams a month from now than you would now now.
I mean, like, could you get a little bit more
because some team gets into an emergency injury situation. That's
certainly possible, you know, but I do think, like you
look at this and you say it'd be better if
we just get a resolution on this now, and then
we get a real view of where our team is
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over the next few weeks without Davonte Adams as part
of the equation. And then you know, we make decisions
on guys like Max Crosby and others on the roster
that maybe we could get some value back for.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
He's Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback lanch time you run,
you floated out there? Bill Belichick and the Jags. The
Jags continue to go in the wrong direction here. Do
you think Bill Belichick has his staff in mind that
would he plug and play with something like this or
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would he want to wait and give me the entire offseason,
not come in right away and be judged on somebody
else's team.
Speaker 15 (27:05):
I mean, like, I don't think he's coming in right away. Like,
if that's what you're asking, when was the lost time
that happened?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, if they if they continue to lose, right, are
they going to make it? So you think this owner
would give Doug Peterson the rest of the season. No,
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 15 (27:20):
I'm not saying that, Like I I look like I
look at it like they're they got a division game
this week. If they lose Indianapolis, they go to London
in oh to five. If they go to London in
oh and five, that's an embarrassing thing for a billionaire.
Billionaires don't like being.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
In and that's his, that's his city, that's his.
Speaker 15 (27:38):
And then yeah, and then you're going to a place
where he owns a soccer team, he owns Foham and
he's invested a lot in making the Jaguars a factor
in that city. They're going there own five. Then they
wind up coming back on seven. I think all that's
are off, you know, because that would mean they have
lost to the Bears and Patriots, all due respect, that's
not losing to the Chiefs and Niners.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You know.
Speaker 15 (27:57):
So, like, I don't know, Like I I think, you know,
I like, I think there's a possibility that that that
this could be a mid season thing. I wouldn't rule
that out, but I just don't know how you go about,
you know, bringing in a new head coach in mid season,
if that's what you're asking you, you know, I think
they would. I think they would, you know, pick whoever
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on the staff and make Ryan Nielson the defensive coordinator
and make them the interim coach and then you know,
if you wanted to get a head start, you maybe
start working in the background with someone like Bill you
know what I mean. Like on that, now, could you
go and get a new general manager that I think
is possible like that we've seen that that.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I believe it was the.
Speaker 15 (28:39):
Browns that did that with John Dorsey years ago, right
like at the end of maybe at the end of
the Hugh Jackson. Now, yeah, it was while Hugh Jackson
was the coach when they brought Dorsey in in December.
And there are a number of guys that Belichick has
worked with, you know, Scott Pioli, John Robinson, Thomas de
Mittrov that are out there that don't have that that
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that don't that aren't working for NFL teams right now
that you might be able to to to install as
your general manager if you were going to make major
changes in mid season. That's aid to answer to the
other part of your question, Like I think Bill has
a real good idea of who you have on his staff.
Like I think that there would be bringing the band
back together element to all of this, Like I I
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think Josh McDaniels would be part of the equation Matt Patricia,
Joe Judge, Like, I think there'd be a lot of
familiar names as as part of the next staff wherever
Bill Lands.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You think Christian McCaffrey plays this season.
Speaker 15 (29:34):
I do, I you know, I think that this is
I mean, you and I both know this, right, Like
you've been around sports longer than me. But I know
well enough to know when an athlete goes over to Germany,
it's not for evaluation, it's for treatment, right, So, you know,
I I sort of the thing the thing that reminds
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me of the most is Andrew Locke, you know, like
when Andrew Luck just could not get in front of
the injuries that he had and kind of kept trying
to find different solutions and it just kind of became
too much for him. Now I'm not saying that McCaffrey's
going to become lock here, you know, but it's certainly concerning,
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you know, like.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That that he just can't seem to get in front
of this right now. So I think they find a way.
Speaker 15 (30:26):
I think that that that that a lot of this
is uncertain at this point, you know, and and and
how he feels. What I do know is I I
think they're going to find a way to get him
on the field, because I think maccaffrey's determined to get
back on the field.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I would never.
Speaker 15 (30:41):
Doubt that guy's drive, like in his his will, and
I think he's gonna want to find a way to
get back out there. Finding the most judicious way to
do that is the question. And that's how that started
in the first place. Dan, Like I I think you
know they're feeling coming out of out of week one.
Week two is like, okay, well, if this is the
NFC Championship game, he could have played, right, But this
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is langered to the point where it's you know, now
you're taking trips to.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Germany and everything else. I think there's a real level.
Speaker 15 (31:10):
Of determination on McCaffrey's part to be a part of
the Niners, like drive for Super Bowl this year, and
you know, I think the fact that this could be
the one of the final shots that this particular group
of players has at it together is a motivator too.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So I think he finds a way out there.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
The question is what forum, and you know what sort
of condition he's going to be in when he gets
out there, And I'm not sure like even he knows
that until he actually goes out there and tests how
the treatment worked on the practice field.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
The two tongue of ilois situation. Not many guys go
in concussion protocol and end up on the IR but
not many players have suffered the concussions that two a
hat does to a play for the Dolphins this season.
Speaker 15 (31:58):
Yes, and I say that like everybody else, you know,
waiting to see what comes of everything that he's done
and is doing with specialists. So I don't want to
put it on him that I'm guaranteeing anything, but I
I would say like that, there are zero people I've
talked to around Tua that think that he is even
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considering retiring or wanting to shut it down. And I
think the dolphins own actions here would tell you that
they're giving him every chance. I think the act of
putting him on an injured reserve was very, very smart
by the Dolphins, and I think the idea there was
to take the pressure off of.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Everybody doing that.
Speaker 15 (32:40):
Sidelining him for four games took the pressure off the coaches,
took the pressure off of Tua himself, took the pressure
off the trainers, took the pressure off, the doctors, took
the pressure off of everybody so he could make a
coherent decision on his future. I think he badly wants
to play again, and I think it's easy for the
rest of us to play mom and dad out there
and say I would never let my kid go back
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out there. And it was pointing for me listening to
like Tony Gonzalez's commentary right after the game and saying,
if that was my son, I wouldn't let him play.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think we all feel that way.
Speaker 15 (33:10):
If that was our son, if that was our brother,
if that was our dad, if that was our uncle,
we wouldn't want him going out there, right. But this
is to his decision, you know. And I think the
psychology of the pro athlete is an interesting one because
you know, you have something that you're so elite at
that somebody's willing to pay you millions for it, and
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it's been part of your identity since you were a
little kid. And invariably for all of these guys, at
some point in their twenties or thirties, somebody's going to
tap them on the shoulder and tell them that they
cannot do that anymore. And they still have more than
half of their life to live, right, it's a really
it's an interesting psychological thing there. And you know, Toua
now being in that position in his mid twenties, that's
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a tough spot to be in for a player. And
you know, so I can understand both sides of it.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I think like the rest of us look at and say,
we would never let it.
Speaker 15 (34:02):
We would never want our brother or our son, or
our again, our dad or our uncle wanting going back
out there after what two has been through. But the
psychology of a pro athlete is very different than that.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, because if Tony Gonzalez was the player, Tony Gonzalez
would go out there and play exactly now he's saying,
you know, fifteen years.
Speaker 15 (34:22):
Which is totally understandable too.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right, Yeah, I get it, I get it. But the
mentality of the player is going to continue to play. Yeah,
And I think it was really interesting too.
Speaker 15 (34:31):
Just one last thing on that, what Mike McDaniel's comment
where he said, like you're the quarterback of your family
right like that ultimately is who he has to answer
to two. It doesn't have to answer to the Dolphins.
He doesn't have to answer He thinks he's got to
answer to his locker room, right, which is the natural
mentality the athlete and the coaching staff, ultimately the people.
He's got to answer to to the people who live
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under the same roof as him, not us.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Thank you, Albert, you got it. Thanks dam He's the
Monday morning quarterback. Will take a break, we play Are
You In or Are You Out?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
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Speaker 2 (35:15):
We'll get to phone calls coming up. By the way,
I have the updated odds on who's going to win
the Super Bowl according to DraftKings, the Chiefs, followed by
the Niners, Ravens, Bills, and then the Lions. So the
Chief's still the big favorite, then the Niners, Ravens, Bills,
and Lions. I'm surprised that the Lions are fifth here.
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I thought they might be a little bit higher there.
It feels like they're the best team in the NFC.
All right, time to play are You In or You're Out?
PAULI give us the guidelines as the host of In
or Out?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Thanks Dan. Week three of interor Out?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Do we have music for in a round.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Oh yeah, that's original. I'm going to read a statement.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
You either say I'm in, which means you back that
statement or in on it, or I'm out.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm not with that, Okay, I'm not with follow that, Okay,
feel me, marvh I feel you.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
The Raiders should not trade Davante Adams to the Chiefs,
even if it's the best offer.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I'm in on that.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I mean, and you can't help them, right you cannot?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
No, no, no, don't take the call or unless drive
up the trade market.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Unless they go we're going to give you a first
round draft pick. And then you go, okay, so you're
out then no, but they're not giving you a first
round draft pick, and you're back in. I'm in, Okay,
in or out.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
The Minnesota Viking will win the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I'm out. I'm in. Oh, I'm into. I took the
Lions to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (36:58):
I can't say the Viking is going to win the
l I mean, I guess I could, but the Lions
could still win the Super Bowl. You're out on bailing all.
I'm out on bailing.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
If the Commanders win the NFA East, the Commanders win
the NFC East Jaden Daniels should win league MVP. It's
the second worst record in football last year.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
Inter out, Well, if they win the division, and he's
obviously would have to ball out, as they say, like
kids like to say, yeah the kids, Okay, So am
I in that he would be the MVP. He'd have
the numbers to go with winning the division and the
story and.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The I'm going to be in. I'm in, all right,
I'm going to go in.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
All right, Dan, I'm out.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
I'm out.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Not necessarily, not a lot of rookies win MVP. I
think Jim Brown did it. Yeah, Okay, we're due a
couple more.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
The NFL should permanently stagger doubleheader games every Monday night.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I'm in, Oh, I.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Mean, I am out.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I don't think we need two games every single mon.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They Yeah, but you're guaranteed at least one good game. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
You could even do like a seven o'clock Eastern start
for the East Coast Ish game, Yeah, and then a
nine o'clock start for the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I'm in, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, a couple more.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
The Miami Dolphins will have the number one pick of
the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm out.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
I'm out out.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
They scored forty five points in four.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Games, and it's the only room for improvement. The Hunley
Era two is coming back.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Okay, this is the last one, and I got to
workshop this one a little bit. O Army football and
Navy football. They're both undefeated in October. If here's a bonus,
both Army and Navy play Notre Dame neutral site this year.
If either Army or Navy run the table, one of
(38:57):
the two will be in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Who else does Army play besides Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Well, Army has waxed everybody so far. They're literally running
over people. The only big teams they play are at
Notre Dame. They play the AAC Conference championship game, which
is always a burner, and they finished with Navy, who
could be undefeated. Navy, they don't have a huge schedule here,
but they play Notre Dame in October National TV.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
But that's a neutral site.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Yeah, East Rutherford, and then the Army Notre Dame is
at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think in November going to that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Now there would be public sentiment to get one of
the service academies in.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
The Army, Navy game could be for a playoff spot
and that again this is forward thinking. But if they're
both undefeated.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I'm going in America. Yeah, I'm a patriot. I'm mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Too, let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Fritzy is gonna be out on that.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
But I was very close to saying I.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Think you're right though.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
The public sentiment around an Army or Navy last seed
in the in the playoffs would be unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm in Yes, Marv.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Is there a way we can get like a playoff
game at West Point?
Speaker 11 (40:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
No, they would likely arm your Navy.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Lest they have to host. They'd have to be one
of the top seats.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Maybe the president could like make a decreer. Oh really,
Richard Nixon would have done that. Yeah, but they don't
have their stadium done.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
They do not. Ye, you're renovating right now.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm gonna try to
go up there in a couple of weeks. That is,
I'm in on going up to West Point. I see
you again. The popular Peter King is he semi retired?
He'll join us coming up in the band cave. More
phone calls as well. Two hours in the books already
on this Wednesday, final hour on the way, right after
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