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October 3, 2024 40 mins

First Things First co-host Nick Wright drops by on his 40th birthday to talk some sports. Plus, Dan and the Danettes pick their Dour Rankings as Week 5 of the NFL season gets underway tonight.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Thursday, our good buddy Nick Wright from Fox
Sports will stop by. Former GM Mike Tannenbaum from the
Mothership will join us as well. As we look at
the options for DeVante Adams and the Raiders, and no
surprise that the two top teams on his list have
to do with quarterbacks that he's played with before, Derek

(00:25):
Carr with New Orleans, Aaron Rodgers with the Jets. And
you start to look at compensation. Is it a second
round pick, it is a third round pick, a fourth
round pick. He's thirty two years of age. The Jets
need him. The Saints could certainly use him. I think
we were all in, or a lot of people were
all in on the Saints early when they had a

(00:45):
couple of impressive wins. That has subsided greatly here. But
wanting to reconnect with Derek Carr. The Raiders got rid
of Derek Carr. That should have been the writing on
the wall if you're DeVante Adams to say, you know what,
if he's not here, I don't want to be here.
He's the reason why I came here. You have Aaron
Rodgers the Jets situation, and it feels like it's a

(01:09):
two now. If you're another team like the Ravens or
the Steelers, it doesn't matter where DeVante Adams wants to go.
I would think if you give them a better draft pick,
then maybe you have that chance. If you're the Steelers,
I'd roll the dice. If you're the Ravens, sure, If
you're the Lions, sure. I was told yesterday, don't role

(01:31):
out the Niners. They have money to spend, and I go, okay,
they have cap room, which is kind of surprising because
it feels like everybody's gotten paid except for rock Perty
all right, eight seven to seven three DP show email
address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp show.
I had a hot dog this morning. I don't know

(01:51):
why I was jonesen for a hot dog. I think
because I watched so much baseball yesterday and I'm like,
I could use a hot dog today. So we got
the hot dog roller out, you know kind you see
in the convenience store. You know, I bought one of
those for the man Cave. Put him on there. Fritzie
all of a sudden goes why I was going to
have a banana. Now I'm gonna have a hot dog.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Not only that, there was like eight like small hot
dogs and one like jumbo thick one. And I turned
to tell and I said, is this, you know, belong
to somebody? Or can I take this kind of plump
when you cook them kind of hot dog? And I
took the one big one off the thing no other
than mitteeth. I just grabbed that thing right up the middle.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I know, I know, your big fat meaty pauls there. Yeah, yes, Paul. I.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
When I go to a baseball game, I don't feel
complete unless I have a hot dog, brought pole of sausage,
some type of handheld meat I gotta eat.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I'm dead serious.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I went last Friday. I went to the Cubs game
and we ate, like on the way in, we had
like this big breakfast. So when we got to the
Cubs game last Friday, I wasn't even hungry, but I
got the biggest pole of sausage with onions and peppers
and just it's destroyed it. It felt like part of
the ritual.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Respect.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Thank you, Tod.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Todd's here in rare form mid season form. But maybe
you know I'm gonna say your postseason form. Okay, yeah,
Seaton's not here, Marvin's here, Paula yours truly. Nick Wright
will join us, coming up here in a little bit.
Stat of the Day is always brought to you by
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We got baseball tonight. It's Mets and the Brewers for

(03:23):
all the marbles. According to Todd.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Some of the marbles.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Some of the marbles, because then you have to play
another series and then another.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
And more marbles than what the Bucks Falcons is offering,
even though NFL is fun. But it's just a start
a week five.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Thank you, Todd. The Buccaneers and the Falcons. That's Thursday
Night Football. The Buccaneers getting one and a half against
prime time, Mister Primetime Kirk t Cousins.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
Tigers close out the Astros. That was fun.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Royals close out the Orioles, Padres close out the Braves.
I love the three game series. I think it's great
if you're the home team, you get all three games
at home. I don't want to hear any excuses. I
thought baseball had a great Baseball's had a great week.
I think baseball had a great year. When you think
about Judge for an encore. Obviously, with what Sho hee

(04:12):
o Tani has done, you got some younger stars.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Now you don't have Mike Trout.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I don't think we're ever going to have Mike Trout
unless he's on another team. I don't know the fewest
playoff games for a Hall of Famer, but Mike Trout
is probably going to have that record the fewest game
playoff games for a Hall of Fame hitter.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yes, Martin, what.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
About a lot of those guys back in the forties
and fifties where only the two best teams were playing
in the World Series. So I'm sure there a bunch
of guys that may have not well.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Ted Williams, I don't know how many playoff games he
was in because the Yankees would win the division, they'd
win the American League, and if you finished second, you
didn't you know, there were no wild card berths back then, Yes, Pauline.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, you really would have to look at that pre
nineteen eighty or nineteen seventy five. One that stands out
pretty sure. Ernie Banks of the Cubs in nineteen years
never played a postseason.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Game, Okay, and he had five hundred and twelve home.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, I think when we so, yeah, when did we
expand when did we have wild card teams? What was
the first year? From then on, Mike Troun's probably gonna
have the fewest playoff games three in a Hall of
Fame career. And how long ago was that that he
played it? And was that eleven years ago?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Twenty fourteen or thirteen? Checking Mike Trout has played in.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
It's so sad.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
It's sad even look at postseason batting for Mike Trout.
He played in three games, twelve at bats in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Hit one hit, so a decade ago, the best player
in the game. And look, there's a lot of opportunities
here to make the playoffs. A lot of teams make
the playoffs, not the way it used to. But when
you think about fewest advats, you bring up Ernie Banks.
That's a yeah, let's play too, Yes, yes, Marv.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
In nineteen ninety five the wild card was put into place.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
All right, So what are we talking about? Ninety five,
two thousand and five, two thousand, so last thirty years,
thirty years, I don't think you'll have somebody playing in
fewer playoff games going to the Hall of Fame than
Mike Trout.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yes, Mar, And that's sad because there's so many more
opportunities to get in.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, all right, phone calls eight seven to seven three
DP show. Good morning.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for allowing us
into your homes and our radio affiliates around the country.
Pole question for hour two, Todd, is going to be
what I'm gonna give.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You the hour one results when we guess, But first
the hour two we're gonna go with, how happy you
the Astros have been eliminated from the postseason? Thrilled, a
bit disappointed, very upset, no emotional reaction to those cheaters.
That's what we're gonna look up for the second hour
that we stuffed into.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
The first hour results.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm I've moved past it, you know, I just you
have to.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Do you know they cheated.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, if they were in the World Series, I probably
root against him, but I just you know, the Tigers
story is a great story, and I'm happy their former
manager comes back. They end up, you know, taking the
first two games to you know, win the best of three.
So I've moved past it. I don't even think about

(07:24):
it until somebody brings it up to me. When al
Tuba comes to the play, I mean, I think he's
a great player. I think he's a Hall of Famer.
Bregman is a really good player. But I don't go there.
There he is, They're probably cheating. I just I had
to move past that now. I you know, wasn't a
diehard Dodger fan where we got to witness this and

(07:44):
they were cheating and roughing up Kershaw or the Yankees
when you know they were getting cheated on.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
So I move on with it.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
But then I don't have any bias here towards anybody.
No what else do you have?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
So from the first hour, PAULI had an interesting one.
What would be the best story team to win the
World Series? If you guys want to guess what the
results are, the only hints I'll give you was the
two at the top are very close, and then there's
a drop. The third, fourth, and fifthteams are very close.
In third, fourth and last place.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
I would say the Padres.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
The Padres are at twenty seven percent, but this team
is at thirty percent above the Padres. For the best
story Tigers, the Detroit Tigers, the thirty, Padres twenty seven.
Brewers are at about eighteen, Mets and Royals at about thirteen.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, because the Royals, I think we look at them
when you go, you know, kind of a mid market
and a nice little team. And Bobby Witt Junior looks
they won a World Series in the last ten years.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
So Detroit.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Detroit's a great story because that payroll, there is no payroll,
and the fact that you go into Houston and take
you know, take that team down with all of that
playoff experience, that's pretty impressive. But I would say the
Padres because of the history, because he I mean for years,

(09:09):
you know the Podre. Oh my god, the Padres. Now
I did love Tony Gwinn, but that was it. I
mean it's not like you tuned in to see the
entire Padres. It was you'd watch Tony gwyn come to
the plate. Yes, Marv.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
What about Ken KIMMINNITTI for a little bit, you know
when I was a kid, When I was a.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Kid, I interviewed him.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I was going to do either a book or some
kind of documentary on Ken Kemanitty.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
We were in.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Scottsdale and he was he was a troubled soul. He
was but a fascinating guy. Had an MVP season and
we talked about this now. He said he would sit
down with me, but he had to have his back

(09:56):
to the wall, that he always had to see the room.
So when we sat down, I got ready to sit down,
you know, and he goes, no, no, no, no, no,
I have seen the room. And so he was just nervous.
He just kept looking around and you know, there were
you know, steroid I think he was busted for that.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yes, ton I was working on a show many years
ago in LA and he walked off the set in
the middle. He had some type of social anxiety disorder
right in the middle of a taped interview.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
He just couldn't handle it.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
He started getting sweaty and nervous and just could not
continue with the interview.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Yes, and he was that way. He was just wired.
And his eyes were black, he had his pupils were black.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I just remember talking to him and I'm going, I
don't I feel bad, like I'm I'm going to take
advantage of this guy by trying to do this.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
And he died less than a year later, I think
four four, But yeah, it was he was troubled.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
He really was, and I remember getting a call from
him and like he needed he couldn't be alone, he
wanted to talk to somebody. It was late at night,
and I just remember just listening to him and uh,
I think that was probably the last time I talked
to him. And then I think he died in New York.

(11:23):
Was he outscoring drugs?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I think, yeah, he died in the apartment in the Bronx.
Now one one call and he died of a drug overt.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, but it was man, that brings back bad memories.
But we were at a famous steakhouse in Ssconsin.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I can remember that night because you met me afterwards
at a bar down the street and you look like
kind of like shell shocked. I was like, I just
sat with Ken Kaminitty. I knew nothing about him besides
great baseball player, and like that guy's got some issues.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, he was talented, but he it's you know, he
needed he needed help right away, and I'm just meeting him.
But I had talked to him and then we thought,
you know what, let me let him talk about this.
Maybe maybe there's a cautionary tale. And I just remember, man,

(12:14):
it stayed with me a long time, and I even
said to my wife, I said, I can't do this.
I'm exploiting him because I thought it might be cathartic
that he's talking about everything he went through. But he
needed he needed far more help than I was going
to be able to offer. All Right, So Baseball playoffs.
So the Padres, maybe they get to the World Series.

(12:36):
That's what a roundabout way of saying. They've had some interesting,
interesting players there with the Padres. Now they get the
Dodgers coming up. So stat of the Day brought to
you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the
Dan Patrick Show. Let me see how abound Doug in
North Carolina? Hi Doug, what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Well? Dan, in front of me right now, I have
the two thousand and eighteen NFL Draft and I pulled
this up because you were talking about Baker Mayfield earlier.
Four out of the first five picks are still in
the lead, but they're not with the team that drafted them.
And here I just want to know if you're a
fan who regrets moving on from their twenty eighteen pick

(13:18):
the most the Cleveland Browns losing Baker Mayfield or the
Jets losing Sam Darnold.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
The Jets at least have Aaron Rodgers. The Browns have
a very very very expensive Deshaun Watson, and it doesn't
look promising.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think the Arizona Cardinals are fine moving on from
John Josh.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
I think they did the wise thing there, jumped a
gun on that. But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Speaking to somebody yesterday, and I mentioned this first down,
I talked to an NFL scout.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
We talked about a variety of things.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Jalen Milroe, he thinks is a better throwing LaMarche and
you know, lamar the last pick of the first round
that year. And we started talking about Deshaun Watson because
I said, help me understand what's going on. He looks
like a shell of himself. He said, well, he's getting
hit so often and he doesn't want to run anymore,

(14:19):
so he's got to stay back there and pass. But
his offensive line has let him down. And he said
he's at least showing a little emotion yelling at his
offensive line. But I don't know if anybody's been hit
more than Deshaun Watson. But he doesn't want to run anymore.
According to this NFL scout, so You're really in a
conundrum there. He's going back to pass. You don't have

(14:41):
a good offensive line. He's getting hit. The cowboy's hitting
seventeen times, and then he doesn't want to run because
he doesn't want to get hit. That's why he looks
like he's a shell of what he once was. Alan Atlanta, Hi, Al,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Hasn't been a good one since last Saturday? But I'm
calling I hope I'm not a buzzkilling in here. But Paully,
your idea kind of already exists.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Kind of okay, So this is where you're watching your
TV tonight and you say, hey, bro, put on Mets Brewers,
and then it goes to Mets Brewers. You're saying that
that invention has already been created.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
Yes, Now, if you have a Direct TV or Comcast,
there's a microphone button, but I understand PAULI doesn't want
to push a button. So if you have a smart
TV that you connected correctly to your table box, you
can use Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, or sam Sun Bixby
and just activate the assistant and tell it what game

(15:49):
you want to watch and it goes directly there.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Well, women, hold on now, yes, I'd like to do
some light debunking, as I've been known to do.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Dan.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
I've tried this with a Google TV and it's shoddy
at best, and you do have to press buttons to
get there. It doesn't take you immediately there. This is
a high end sports system app that where you won't
have to wait for it to find it and then
press a button and then hope it gets you actually there.
This is within three seconds.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, because there could be something where you get a
text and somebody says put on ABC, like Fritzi did,
and then all of a sudden, I go ABC.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
Then you go right to it.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Then you don't miss the final ounce of the Tigers
putting away Fritzie's astros. Thank you, Al, I think all right,
let me take a break here. Nick Wright's gonna join us.
We'll get to your phone. More phone calls as well.
We're back after this in the Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
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Speaker 2 (16:57):
He turns forty today, Nick Wright turns, it's forty today.
How about a round of happy birthday for Nick. Right, Happy,
happy birthday, Happy birthday, Nick.

Speaker 9 (17:13):
Thank you. You know, I didn't know what it would
take to be invited back on the show for the
first time in months, maybe more than a year, I'm
not sure at this point. But it took me, you know,
becoming an old man like you so that you you
were you know, you were sick of sick of talking
to this young up and comer. And now that I'm
just old and washed, It's fine, I get it.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well, you tell me that you prefer to go on
Colin Coward show, So that's why have you invited me
on your show on Fox Sports one.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
Open invite?

Speaker 6 (17:48):
But no, that's not that's not him.

Speaker 9 (17:50):
Tomorrow tomorrow, okay, tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
What time do I have to be there?

Speaker 9 (17:56):
Well, tomorrow's usually our shows three to five Eastern. Tomorrow
it's three to four thirty because playoff Baseball something takes it.
Anytime you want, what time do you want to come on?

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
You know what, I'm gonna have to get back to
you because I have to travel into the city.

Speaker 9 (18:12):
Okay, well, listen, this is sincere. If you would like
to come on the show, yeah, I bet we can
send a car. If tomorrow doesn't work, we'll make it happen. Yeah,
so it's a different format of shows. I kind of hell,
you didn't have to invite yourself. I just don't know
how good your cowboys takes are.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And that's a are you talking? You guys even talk
about Oklahoma State Cowboys mean any chance to get in cowboys, Wyoming,
Wyoming Cowboys.

Speaker 9 (18:41):
We just need it on the lower third. As long
as it says cowboys, we can really see. That's the thing.
You think we're always talking Dallas cowboys. But that's because
our show is probably on where you're at without the sound,
you're just seeing it. So you think we're talking cowboys.
We're actually talking about the racial politics of the WNBA.

(19:02):
We just have Dak Prescott into the lower third in
the corner.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Well I mentioned that though if shows could somehow work
the Lakers into DeVante Adams that and Caitlin Clark, that
they would su try to do that.

Speaker 9 (19:16):
Listen, man, it's a business. I know you're we're out here.
We're out here talking, you know, trying to capture the zeitgeist.
If you want to spend I don't know how much
time you're spending tonight on uh the Falcons tonight?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
What is it?

Speaker 9 (19:31):
Falcons Bucks tonight? Yeah, like, uh, you know Kirk Cousins,
how you know, did how how much better as he
looked in week four from week one on the Achilles?
You can do that. We're you know, we've carved out
ninety seconds for that on today's show. But I don't
know if you've heard Tyreek Kills flirting with the Chiefs again.
So that's probably going to be discussed on my on

(19:52):
my television show. And the Royals are gonna beat the Yankees,
which is going to be terrible for me professionally but
great for me personally.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Okay, I think Baker Mayfield is an interesting storyline because
I agree we got a larger sample size. If I
go back to last year, so twenty one games, his
stats are second best to Dak Prescott. If I look
at touchdowns, interception he I think he's gotten to the

(20:20):
point where we have to recognize him as he's a
is he a very good quarterback?

Speaker 6 (20:26):
But I mean he's certainly a good quarterback.

Speaker 9 (20:29):
He's definitively a good quarterback. And you did a larger
sample if you go to like week twelve of last
year and now, which is including the playoffs, maybe week thirteen,
it's like ten games. It's elite numbers, like truly elite
numbers across the board, rating yards, all of it. He
also has going for him miss the guys played four

(20:52):
career playoff games, has gone for three hundred plus or
had awesome games in three of them, even though they
did lose to you know, one of those ones that
he was awesome in, and his story kind of makes
sense to me. Awesome college player comes into Cleveland, is
instantly good, has maybe a rough sophomore season, then is

(21:13):
awesome again, and then his last year in Cleveland, Week
one tears his labrahm in his showing throwing arm and
is really bad the rest of that year, and people
were very quick to kind of throw him out. Obviously,
he wasn't great, and he wasn't even good in Carolina,
seems like nobody is. And now in Tampa has had

(21:34):
a chance to be rejuvenated a bit. He also has learned,
in my opinion, his biggest weakness early in his career
was it felt like he thought he was faster than
he was, Like it felt like he thought he was
a better athlete than he actually was, and so he
would try to escape and get run down. I also
think there is a we're seeing it with a with Baker.

(21:57):
I don't really believe in Darnold, but maybe with the Arnold.
We've seen it in other instances. The Geno Smith is
a great example the veteran quarterback who gets the experience
of being in the league five, eight, ten years, but
isn't thought of highly, so he's not paid highly. So
you get like the rook not the rookie contract, but

(22:19):
you get a cheap quarterback, but with all this experience,
so you can then have a bunch of great weapons
around him that thus far this season has been a
very effective through line for teams.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, and Sam Darnold. I still maintain that there has
to be a landing spot that makes sense for both
team and player. And Baker signed that deal, Yes, I
mean thirty thirty five million. That's that's a nice if
Mitch Trubisky should have taken that deal when he was
in Pittsburgh because now or Chicago, he might still be

(22:52):
their quarterback.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
If he had had.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
A it felt like, hey, you're next up, so you
got to get you know, forty five to fifty million
not everybody deserves fifty million, sixty million.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
And so that's listen. You know, I'm a big Trevor
Lawrence guy. He's been brutal this year. The team's been bad,
and that contract is going to be an albatross. I
was worried to his contract was going to be an albatross.
There is there are some weird things happening with the
NFL salary structure. Where so listen, I know it's a

(23:24):
passing league, obviously it is, but it is it's weird
that the market. Someone had a tweet about this, I
think was Mina, and she's right. The market told us
that Alan Lazard brings as much value to a team
as Derrick Henry and no one bats an eye like
that's not correct, you know what I mean? Like Derrick

(23:44):
Henry gets ten million a year and people are like,
oh man, that's a lot for a wide receiver. Christian
Kirk gets fourteen, all right, a lot for running back.
Christian Kirk gets fourteen and nobody cares. So there is
that has touched the quarterback position as well, which is
Mahomes is worth one hundred a year, Josh Allen is
worth sixty a year, Lamar is worth fifty a year.

(24:06):
I'm not sure where Dak is. But that next Joe
Burrow's worth fifty a year. But that next group of
guys is not. And but it's just where the market
has moved to.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
He's nick right. He turns forty today.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, I was wondering about with this.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yeah, you were gonna say.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
I was just just because you mentioned my age. Is
the only person on your staff younger than me?

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Marvin, Yeah, you guys are pretty close.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
I turned forty in April.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Oh, be the youngest. I'm the youngest person in your
in your kind of you know area, in your team. Yeah,
if I'm on the team, yes, say I'm on the team.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean you're invited to come in to the studio.
I got a basketball hoop, We got meat Friday tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
I mean a lot of things going on.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
Okay, well, okay, I will you know what I'm going
home at home that it'll be great. It will be
a Syracuse Dayton home at home. I can't wait for it.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
That is awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I was wondering about this with Andy Reid since I
knew we were going to have you on Andy Reid's
genius to me is if you look at the Chiefs
game winning touchdowns in the playoffs, Super Bowl, it's not
the Stars, correct, that's that's the brilliance of you use
Sky Moore. Uh, McCole coole hardman like. That to me

(25:41):
is the brilliance of Andy Reid uh pacheco Like. It's
not the guys that you think are going to score
these touchdowns, but his ability to find those guys and
use them in the right moment at the right you know,
the right time.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
Well, and it's also so and we can kind of go,
you know, I can go a step further with it. Uh.
The the game ceiling play in the AFC Championship game
was a bomb to NBS who had dropped that ball
all year long. They finally had to give up on

(26:14):
Kadarius Tony, but Tony, they gave chance after chance after chance,
McCole hardman like. Right now, the Chiefs running back in
wide receiver room because of injury. Here are the guys
Kareem Hunt Cleveland said, we can't use you. Cleveland's no good.
Samajip Ryan waived by the Broncos they stink. And Carson Steele,

(26:38):
whose NFL prospects were so grim when he was at
UCLA that his sister scheduled her wedding for a Saturday
for a Sunday in the fall in September, knowing he
was draft eligible, so his own family didn't believe in him.
The receivers are a rookie who I think is gonna
be good, but Juju who the Patriots said we can't
use you, McCole Hardman who the Jets and we can't

(27:00):
use you, and Justin Watson who went to Penn and
all year long, what the Chiefs they have. They have
the benefit of having this great young defense and Mahomes
who hasn't played great this year, and because of that,
they can all year long get these guys reps and
opportunities and involved in regular season games, as opposed to

(27:25):
we are just gonna rely on our stars and then
in the playoffs if someone can take one of those
stars away. These guys have no experience with it. I
think Andy is the people keep asking me what would
it take for me to worry about the Chiefs, and
even though they're four and zero and they asked it
last year, and the enter as long as they have
Andy Patrick and the most underrated player in the sport,

(27:48):
Chris Jones, they are in better position than any other
team week after week after week.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, I agree. Before I let you go, the Knicks
took a big swing here with Karl Anthony Towns. It's
I don't know where I land on this right now.
I'm not a Julius Randall fan. Ball ends up in
his hands and it stays there. Devincenzo a lot of threes. Yeah,

(28:14):
the Villanova connection. I just I don't know Carl Anthony
Towns if like he's.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 9 (28:23):
I this was the I don't want to call it
a lose lose trade, but I don't know who won.
And I'm a little confused by it. Minnesota's side of things,
I just thought you could have gotten more for Carl
Anthony Towns. And I don't love him, but he is
a good to very good player. He's an excellent offensive player,

(28:45):
and the contract's you know, a tough But I don't
think Julius Randall is helpful when it comes to winning
a championship. And Minnesota just came off the best year
they've had in the history of their franchise, or second
best year, and they totally shake the snow Globe. The
Nick on the other hand, I thought made their big
move with Mikhale Bridges this trick. I would have wanted

(29:07):
to see what it looks like with this group before
I then take this swing as well. Now I understand
why the Knicks. It's like, we gave up Randall, who
didn't seem to want to be here, only one pick
and Dante and we got the best player in the trade.
I don't think it's a bad move for the Knicks,
but it's a confusing one. I agree with you entirely

(29:29):
that it's like it just didn't It seemed rushed when
they didn't need to do it, and I thought they
would want to see what the Villanova crew looks like
together plus Og and Randall before they make this drastic
of a move. I'll say one other thing that this
signaled to me out West, the Timberwolves, right or wrong,

(29:51):
no longer feel like, oh, we have to build our
team with Denver first and foremost in mind. Like the
Carl Down to Rudy Gobert combo was a really good
combo to get through the Nuggets to go off that
to me, they're saying, we don't look at Denver as
this ultimate alpha that we have to build, you know,

(30:14):
in relation to.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yeah, And we see this a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Teams are building their team because there's there's a championship
team that they know they have to go through. The
Lebron James comments and I'm paraphrasing like, don't have expectations
on our season.

Speaker 9 (30:31):
So I think those comments were I'm somewhat misinterpreted. I
think the more interesting comments he made were I have
nothing left to prove, which is Lebron I think trying
to set the conversation of I don't care what you
guys think. I think the goat debates over and when

(30:54):
he said it's all extra credit, he is, he is
making it clear to everyone again. People can disagree with
him that I'm the greatest player ever. That's that part's done.
So everything else I do from here is just to
see how far I can take it. And I know
that'll make people mad. I know people will argue, but
I happen to think, not only do I agree with

(31:17):
Lebron on the merits, I also agree with his sentiment,
which is, you know, it's election season, there aren't any
undecided voters left in this thing, and even if the
Lakers won the title this year, the Jordan folks would
be like, oh, win was five better than six. And
even if they won it this year and next year,
they would be like, okay, so it's six to six,

(31:39):
but Jordan's got more MVPs and never lost in the finals.
Those people are not reachable. I'm not gonna call them deplorables,
but they're somewhere in that vicinity. And so I just
don't I think Lebron is saying, look at the record books.
Every youngest ever record it says my name, and now
every oldest ever it says my name. And so I

(32:02):
think that's why he said that. And as far as
the expectations, I just think he was saying, it's a
blank canvas.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, it's almost like when Jordan went to the Wizards
and I, you know, I don't know if there was
this oh my god, he's got to live up to
air Jordan. I think we were just happy that he
came back and he was playing. I don't remember expectation
levels where like, oh what a disappointment. It was no, Hey,
we get a chance to see Mike play a little
bit more.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
It's totally true now, I mean I think some people
when Jordan went to the Wizards, were like, maybe this
is the year he can prove he can play five
hundred basketball without Scottie Pippen, And.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Of course he couldn't.

Speaker 9 (32:38):
But that's five season.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Can you can you say this one is a has
had a better career, one is a better player with it.

Speaker 9 (32:49):
I mean, I understand the concept of what you're saying,
but the problem is you want me to say the
guy that was a better player is the guy who
is small, not as athletic, and a worst shooter. So no,
I can't say that. I think I agree with the
idea that you could. You could say, like Peyton Manning

(33:12):
Tom Brady, you know that. I mean, one guy at
his peak was better, but the other guy clearly had
a better career. I just think Lebron's career is unimpeachably better,
and I think Apex versus Apex, Lebron was the better player.
And so I get the idea of it. I just
don't subscribe to the thinking of it.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, it's like Aaron Rodgers is supposed to be the
most talented quarterback to ever play the position, but Tom
Brady is more decorated.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Yeah, I know, it exists across sports. Luckily, in basketball,
the most talented best is also the one who had
the best career. We're really fortunate in that space. Like, yeah,
so I just disagree with it on its merits, but again,
this is a great if you don't want to, if
you don't have a hot cowboys take when you come on.

(34:02):
First things first. We can do this, for sure, we can.
We don't do Listen the Lebron Jordan debate. I've said
it before, I'll say it again. It's like a pumpkin
spice latte. You don't want it every day, but a
couple of times a year it hits the spot you
just want to you want to mix.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
It in once again.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
Happy birthday, it's a sweet butterscotch.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, mocha. Hey, happy birthday, and we'll talk.

Speaker 9 (34:32):
So I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Love you.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's Nick right, great show in the afternoon on Fox
Sports one. It's his birthday today, turns forty. I'd go
down there and do a cameo and do a drive
by on that show. I'd like I like the group there. Yeah, Mark,
would you do a walk by like you did Pat McAfee, Sure, Okay, Yeah,
I mean I wouldn't get made up like they do,

(34:55):
and you know, I wouldn't do any of that or
you know, color my hair or anything. I've just kind
of just go in there and just sit down and go, hey, guys,
what's up?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Hey, Paul, you should walk in there and insist on
talking like preseason hockey, maybe some Olympic leftover takes that
you've had.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Bernie, Yeah, because they have a rundown there. They're playing
the hits, and he's right. I just don't want He's
actually very right. He's Nick Ray. I just never wanted
somebody to tell me what I had to talk about
each day. Now that happened at ESPN, but I just
wouldn't want. Hey, you got to talk about the Jets today.
Let me take a break here. We'll get to more

(35:32):
phone calls coming up back after this.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Just got word that my brother got to ring the
bell today. No more treatments, no more chemo went through
uh leukemia and congratulations, wow nough ringing the bell him
and his wife. Great day. Great day.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
All right, time to go Dowur rankings. How do we
do that after that? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's the highs and the lows from this Dowur rankings,
which NFL fan base should feel the worst after one month?
I think got some music sounds familiar, Todd You go
first with Dowur rankings.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Deshaun Watson and the one in three type for last
place Cleveland Browns. Listen to these upcoming games. It's not
getting any better at Washington at the Eagles host, the
Bengals host, the Ravens, host the Chargers later in the year.
They have to play the Chiefs on December fifteenth, and
they get the Ravens last game of the season in Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Good luck to the Browns.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
All right, that's dour rankings. That's the fan base in Cleveland, Marvin.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
The Miami Dolphins, I mean, the issues at quarterback, no
backup quarterback Insight Skylet Thompson's not going to be the answer.
Tyreek's probably frustrated. Jalen Wadder, You're wasting great receivers in
their primes the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Is Tyreek Hill trying to flirt with the Kansas City Chiefs?
Now he says he wants to stay in Miami. He
even said to people who were speculating that you guys
are basically idiots. I don't know if he's flirting, but
I think there were a lot of people felt like
it's pretty close to that. It's like you're getting ready
to ask somebody out for a second date.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, Pauline, this guy is on his way to a
first ballot Hall of Famer career, and he's gonna remember
when Larry Fitzgerald was rolling and then all of a
sudden they had like Max Hall and different guys at quarterback,
and all of a sudden, he was catching like sixty
five balls a year. Tyreek Hill may be looking at
that and saying, the next two years could be really
ugly for me with this the quarterbacks thrown to me.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
Yeah. Dower rankings Paulie.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Fritzy took by Cleveland Browns. I'm gonna go with the
Philadelphia Eagles two and two. They don't feel threatening. Two
years ago they were very close to winning a Super Bowl,
and they feel like they're going the wrong direction and
it doesn't feel like it's going to get cleaned up
in the next ten weeks.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I would say the Miami Dolphins, because even if Tua
comes back, even if Tua plays well, even if Tua
stays healthy, you have about seventy more games with his
contract that you're going to hold your breath.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
That's not I don't want.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
To go into a situation a game like that, a
season like that with my quarterback. When he plays well,
he plays at a very high end. You know, gets
the ball out quickly, completion seventy percent. He's got receivers
who can you know, take any pass and take it
to the house. I just I don't I don't want that.
I don't want that hanging over my franchise because we've

(38:46):
seen what happens when he does suffer concussion. The backup
situation that they never emphasized, that's what I never understood.
Don't give him the money, all right, you gave him
the money, Okay, spend some money on a backup because
just about every quarterback sits out for one game injuries.

(39:07):
We had over sixty quarterbacks start a game last year.
And look at the Cleveland Browns. Deshaun Watson's out, they
get Joe Flacco in. Could Joe Flacco be better than
the quarterbacks in Miami. I have to believe, so you
got to spend some money if you're going to have
a quarterback who is injury prone. So I would say
definitely the Miami Dolphins. Dour Jason and Stowe. Hey Jason,

(39:32):
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (39:34):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
DP?

Speaker 6 (39:35):
How you doing good?

Speaker 7 (39:36):
Sir?

Speaker 10 (39:37):
Five eleven going dimes at Tom Brady.

Speaker 8 (39:42):
So you have a great show today? They got me thinking.

Speaker 10 (39:45):
I really called because I wanted to talk about Qualcomm.
They've got me thinking about I've been watching you for
over twenty years. You've done some incredible interviews and it
really got me thinking today, other than the Matt Harvey
the interview, what was your most memorable or favorite interview
that you've ever had.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I'm asked this quite frequently, and I don't have an
answer to it because they're all varying degrees.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Of was that good? Was that good? Or is that good?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
So Tanya Harding, Kyler Murray, those are kind of the
bad ones that were entertaining, But as far as the
good ones, I usually Paulie's pretty good at assessing that.
I mean, we can run down a few of these
next hour. More phone calls coming up. Also, former GM

(40:40):
Mike Tannenbaum on the reality of trading springing in Devontae,
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