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October 3, 2024 40 mins

Dan thinks we should throw analytics out the window during the MLB Postseason. And former NFL GM Mike Tannenbaum weighs in on the situations facing Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa and Raiders WR Davante Adams.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hour in this Thursday. Baseball tonight, Football tonight. Great day
so far, my brother got to ring the bell. No
more chemotherapy for leukemia. A couple of hot dogs already
this morning. Who is it better than we do? Nobody.
I've watched so much baseball yesterday. And then Paulie goes, well,

(00:25):
that's why you wanted hot dogs today. You're right. And
if I was Pat McAfee, i'd be able to drink
a beer and have a hot dog on the show.
I can't pour your coal on it in between commercial breaks. No, no,
you know people would ask me that did you ever
drink before you did Sports Center? I go no, I

(00:47):
may have acted like I was drinking, but no, never.
Even if you had a barbecue or something that was
on a Sunday afternoon, then I'd have to do the
Sunday Sports Center. Be like not having any beers before
I go in there. We'd have somebody that I work
with who like to have a couple of beers. They'd
go out to, but they were uncomfortable sometimes on the air,

(01:10):
and so they would have something that just kind of
calmed them. Down a little bit, and it's like, and
I had somebody else I worked with who would occasionally
spark up a bone, and I'd go, dang. I have
a hard enough time doing live TV. I don't want
to be getting a little dented here going out there
and trying to entertain a nation. All righty, So final

(01:33):
hour here, we'll talk to Mike Tannenbaum of the mother Ship,
a former general manager with a couple of teams. Tigers
close out the Astros, Royals over the Orioles, Padres close
out the Braves, and you got Brewers Mets coming up tonight,
Buccaneers Falcons, Buccaneers getting one and a half. You have
some random college football games as well, Texas State against

(01:57):
Troy and Sam Houston versus Tech. I'll pass. So, okay,
I did talk about playoff baseball that this is great.
I love the atmosphere. It was tense. It's you know,
the best of three, and if you did lose, you
get eliminated. There's no excuses you had all three games
at home. If it went to three games and you

(02:18):
had one hundred and sixty two games. We never say
that about March Madness, where the number one seed Bowls
out in the second round, and we go that's not fair. Well,
it is fair. It's you got one and done. Survive
and the Astros or the Orioles, no excuses whatsoever. You
had all three games at home and you got beat

(02:40):
by teams. And this goes back to what we've talked about.
Those teams that are scratching and calling to get into
the postseason. They are dangerous because they have been playing.
The Tigers have been playing playoff atmosphere at least that atmosphere,
the Royals that kind of atmosphere. So this isn't like, oh,
you got to ramp your game up. That's the hard part.

(03:01):
Like the Dodgers Padres coming to town. Dodgers got to
flip it on. Get ready to go because the Padres
are coming in ready to go. The Royals with the
Yankees coming in ready to go, Tiger's Guardian, same thing.
You got to be ready to go. And that's why
we see surprises all the time with wildcard teams. Good morning,

(03:21):
if you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app.
And our radio affiliates iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. Stat of
the Day is always brought you by Panini America, the
official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I was
talking about Mike Trout. Will he be the Hall of
Famer with the fewest playoff games in a career? Now,

(03:41):
this is since nineteen ninety five when they went to
the wild card. He has one hit in his playoff career.
He's played in three playoff games. Fewest playoff games since
nineteen ninety five by Hall of Famers. Now, this is hitters,
and some of the guys played a larger share of
their careers prior to the wild card era that began

(04:03):
in nineteen ninety five. Ozzie Smith played in five playoff games,
Barry Larkin five playoff games. Joe Maher ten, Frank Thomas
ten so stat of the day, stat of the day,
best stead of the day, stat of the day. Here
it comes out what stat of the day? Yes, Paoni.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Could you imagine if this scenario like Mike Trout and
the Angels played out in the NFL, where clearly the
best player of a fifteen year stretch made one postseason.
People critique the Green Bay Packers for getting one Super
Bowl out of Rogers and one out of far I'll
bet each of those guys went to the playoffs at
least ten times. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine at

(04:48):
the best player in football never got to the postseason.
What criticism there would be on that franchise and the men.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, let's say Dan Marino didn't make the playoffs, but
he was the best quarterback in the NFL, the most
exciting quarterback, but he didn't make the postseason. Yeah, there
would be and Don Shula was his head coach, there
would be criticisms of that, Yes, Marv, quick question.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
So guys like Ozzie Smith and Barry Larkin, they're not
counting what they did before nineteen ninety five. Correct, I
don't know Barry Larkin won a World Series? Yeah, Okay,
then it's probably from ninety five on. I'm guessing Ozzie
Smith won a World Series, right, yeah, go crazy, Jack

(05:35):
Bunt with the call.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
So we're kind of debunking this.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, no, no, this is from ninety five on. I
was wondering Hall of Famers, how many playoff appearances? So
they shouldn't be in here just because of what they
did prior to nineteen ninety five. You're right, I'll fire whoever, Fritzy,
You're fire. Yeah, you're fire a fewest playoff games since
nineteen sixty nine. That's the division era. Hank Aaron played

(06:02):
in three, Orlando Cipeida three, Billy Williams three, William mccubby four,
out Kline five, Bill Massarowski five, Ernie Banks, Joe Torre,
Ron Santo didn't play in a playoff game. But that
was careers that predated the divisional era. You gotta have stars,
and they gotta have them on the biggest stage. And

(06:22):
this is great. This is why baseball's had an unbelievable year.
You do have young, young players, you do have young teams.
They're stealing bases. Now, you got sho Hey Otani like you.
You have some drama in here, new blood in here,
and I think baseball's had a great year. You know,
the pitch clock, remember that was going to be a
big deal. When has that been brought up? Haven't heard anything?

(06:47):
Cruising along games quicker? You're seeing more action, you know,
we're still dealing these damn managers and the analytics. I mean,
I I.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Like where you get upset.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I I just don't want a piece of paper to
tell me, God, that guy is dealing on the mound.
Let me take him out. He had a near perfect,
a perfect inning, and then all of a sudden, the
Mets go, you know, I think we should take him out.
Then they lose the game. More games have been lost

(07:24):
by managers. It feels like in the last couple of
years just due to analytics. What happened to a gut feel,
what happened to momentum man? That guy is on a
burner right now. He is killing, he's dealing. Well, it
says here that he's going to come out. He's pitched
twelve pitches.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
The analytics guy sounds like he's from nineteen forty.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yes, well, he shouldn't sound like he's from nineteen forty
because nineteen forty, say, lave him in there, he's only
thrown one hundred and fifty six penches. Get out there,
Rob's some dirt on it. Yes, yes, Todd.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Do managers somehow think they're more likely to save their
jobs if they can prove on a paper that they
went with the analytics as opposed to saying I just
had this feeling that we should take.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Him out as well.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I have no Aaron Boone kept his job with the Yankees.
Now in a different era, he didn't keep his job,
but it feels like he manages himself out of a
winning situation with just pictures. I just don't I don't
understand that. You know that I can see and I

(08:33):
can hear how you're throwing. You know what's the catcher say? Hey,
you know what? How you feeling good? Let me go
after him? Let me get I'm good, I can go,
you know, fifteen more pitches, twenty more pit whatever it is.
I like that we baby pitchers, but then we also
asked them to throw over one hundred miles an hour.

(08:54):
Doesn't that seem opposite? Hey, how many pitches he thrown?
He's thrown nine? Okay, we're gonna have to take him out,
but we want you to go out there and continue
to throw one hundred miles an hour, okay, and maybe
get a Tommy John surgery or two crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes, I'm being lightly facetious here. I'm not saying I
managers in baseball don't do anything. But if everyone's using
the same analytics card in baseball and going with the
same moves, when does the team decide I'm not going
to pay seven million dollars for a manager to run
a system. You know, the clubs are paying Craig Council
eight million dollars a year, and if he uses analytics,

(09:32):
what are they getting for the eight million?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Aren't the analytics the analytics for everybody? I would think
so unless somebody's come up with new analytics that's different
than the old analytics.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And Craig Council is running a playbook that is given
to him by their analytics team. Yeah, who's making the decisions,
He's just passing them along.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's big ten Saturday Night. Michigan, I think is a
two point underdog at Washington. Does that sound right? Saturday
on NBC in Peacock, here comes Saturday Night, presented by
Discover Todd. Poll results from the first two hours since
Seaton's not here today.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
One of those two polls was how happy are you
the Ashes have been eliminated from the postseason?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Fifty percent thrilled, thirty.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Percent no emotional reaction to those cheaters, ten percent a
bit disappointed, nobody's very upset, and the other pole the
wild caught round of the MLB playoffs should be leave
it as a best of three fifty five percent, best
of five twenty one percent one game elimination twelve percent.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Best of seven nobody.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
And we've got another poll for the rest of the
third hour, which I'm going to give you right here.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Same price.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Who would you want as your quarterback the next three seasons?
Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence, Tua, Kyler Murray, same price?
Who would you want as your quarterback for the next
three years?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, that's one of those that comes back to haunt
you three years from now, two years and none. You
know when you said this, I have to look at
the state of the Dolphins with Tua, Trevor Lawrence, with Jacksonville,
I Kyler is. I don't know, Kyler has a chance.

(11:17):
I wish Michael Vick would talk to Kyler and say,
I didn't put in the time, I had all the ability.
I didn't have a work ethic. You gotta have that.
You can get buying high school, you can get buying college.
You can't get buying the pros without being all in
understanding the game. He makes plays that probably nobody else

(11:39):
in the game can make. It just he doesn't make
enough of enough of those. I would say Baker Mayfield
right now because he's playing really well. So even though
out of all of those guys, they're all getting paid
a lot more than he is. I would say Baker Mayfield,
it feels like he is in a great comfort zone,

(12:00):
but he had to get kicked to the curb a
couple times to find that comfort zone. And he'll have
a chip on his shoulder the rest of his career.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I watched Trevor Lawrence and I keep keep waiting, like,
when's this happen. It feels like he's going in the
wrong direction. Kyler Murray, I don't know, Deshaun Watson, that's
that's not good. No, I don't not at all, all right,

(12:30):
So that's the poll question there. Mets and Brewers coming
up tonight for some of the marbles, according to Fritzie,
some of the marbles, Tim and Wisconsin. Hi Tim, what's
on your mind today? Hey Tim?

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Hey Dan?

Speaker 7 (12:47):
But six three and impressive, two seventy five. Congratulations to
your brother. That's just absolutely fabulous to recover from that
treatment and it's great. Just a little flavor for the game.
We were at the game last night in Milwaukee and

(13:09):
ninety in attendance. New York was well represented. They were loud.
The Polish sausage edged out the broth for the sausage race.
There was a Murphy did a great job managing the
bullpen again. But our game started out with our pitcher

(13:31):
mishandling the ball at the first base, getting a base
runner on, kind of like what Peralta did the game before,
starting out the game with an error. Where this team
has been terrific all year long in the field, but
two back to back games we start out with pitching
ears mishandling the ball. I think it was a fifth inning.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
No no no, no, no, no, no no no. I
watched the game, thank you, Tom.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And then the sixth inning, yeah, I mean their beer hot.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I did watch it. I did watch the game, but
thank you, thank you for play by play. And then
he threw a break and ball and then just his
clubs two outs, and then and somebody brought up last hour.
My best interviews that I've had now, I can usually

(14:28):
tell you my worst ones, my most uncomfortable ones, but
best interviews that's usually just sometimes it's somebody you don't
expect or don't know, and then they turn out to
be great. So, Paula, you have a list.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I have a couple that really just popped in my head.
Because that's a good judgment for that. We had Senator
John McCain on the show. This is quite a long
time ago, probably I'm going twenty ten, and you asked him,
did you hear about sports at all when you were
a prisoner of war? And he said yes. Whenever a
new prisoner of war American would come into the where
they're held, they would ask him who won the World Series?

(15:03):
Who won the Super Bowl? And that was transfixing, you know,
to hear that detail. Dale Earnhart Junior talking about being
outside his home when it burnt down and crying for his.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Dad, and it was around Christmas time. Yeah, and he
just he saw the house burned down. I think he
said he was like five years old.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
One of the again, we've had many with Dale and
her junior.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
They're always great.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Early in the day of this show, we had Bob
Knight and beaucham Beckler together and Bob loved beaucham Beckler
and it was a surprise for Coach Knight to have
beaucham Beckler on and it was an all timer. And
then I would say, also, there's a few of them,
but the Jerry West one where he talked about his
dad and how upset he was with his dad. That's

(15:49):
they stay in my head.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, that one. It's it was heartbreaking when Jerry was
saying that. When he said that he was I think
twelve years of age. He was sleeping with a shotgun
under his mattress because he was going to kill his
dad if his dad abused his mom anymore. And like,
you can't wrap your head around that he was going

(16:14):
to he told him he was going to kill his dad,
had a shotgun there. But yeah, once again having people
who are willing to open up, and Dale Junior has
always been willing talking about his father, and you know,
some of it's really heartbreaking that he grew up and
he wanted his dad's love and his dad was tough.

(16:35):
Your your house burns down at Christmas time, and you know,
those are things that they share and normally, you know,
you'll get people who don't want to share that deeply.
I'm always like Barkley, anybody can interview, you know, Reggie's
always great. I Mean, there's certain people that they're just great,
But it's the other ones that you kind of have

(16:57):
to chip away a little bit and then all of
the sudden you see you know, there's a piece of
art there that they've allowed you to kind of chip away.
All right, let me take a break. We'll talk to
Mike Tannenbaum and get his thoughts on this whole DeVante
Adams situation here and is Tyreek Hill flirting with the
Kansas City Chiefs. We little talk some football coming up next.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 2 (17:31):
Mike Tannenbaum, ESPN, NFL Front Office in Cider, former NFL GM.
You can see him on ESPN programs like Get Up,
Sports Center, NFL Live. Good have Mike t back with
us the Davante Adams situation. I guess the quote was
he preferred a trade. How does the player tell management

(17:53):
that he wants to be traded?

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Dan?

Speaker 8 (17:55):
Great to be with you, sos they walk in, knock
on your door, either them or they're agent. And something
that's really important though in twenty twenty four is we
saw it recently a couple of years ago with Jalen Ramsey.
He says, hey, I'm no longer a Jaguar and he
doesn't play until he's traded. So Devonte Adams could hamstring
could last a very long time. So you know, in

(18:18):
the past, maybe five ten years ago, you could try
to work things out. But I think the way it
is now with some of these A players, when they
decide on something, they do have leverage under the rules
to say they quote unquote can't play and they're holding in,
not holding out.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, you bring up a great point with Davonte, he's
got the hamstring injury. Well, he's already said he wants
to play elsewhere. So if you're the Raiders, if he
even is cleared to play, are you going to play him?

Speaker 8 (18:46):
Yeah? Well, look I probably wouldn't because if I'm Antonino Peers,
I'm in year one dan of a massive rebuilt I
got to get the quarterback. I'd rather have a second
or third round pick, knowing that if I need it
to trade up in the draft to go get quarterback X,
that's probably better for us long term than having a
guy that's, let's face it, a great player, but clearly
much closer to the end and probably won't help us

(19:08):
in two to three years anyway.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Okay, Davante says the Jets, are the Saints, Well, the
Raiders don't care who he wants to go to. How
does that work if all of a sudden, you get
a better deal from New England and he doesn't want
to go there.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
I've been in that situation before, like, hey, look, we're
going to try to accommodate you, but we will do
what is best for the Las Vegas Raiders. So if
it's Team X, look we got to get the best
compensation we can. If it's the Jets, if it's the Saints,
as it's been reported as of the Derek Carr relationship, absolutely,
but we're not going to give you a way to
those teams because we also have an organization to run

(19:46):
and that's who my responsibility is to. So we will
be open, we will be transparent, but we are not
indiscriminately letting you walk to New York, you know, to
Aaron Rodgers for a six round pick him in. You
know what we gave up for you just two short
years ago.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Is Tyreek Hill trying to flirt with the Kansas City Chiefs?

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (20:04):
I think Tyreek Hill's savvier than people realize. I think
he's saying all the right things, and you want to
take care of your home base, which I think he's
done very well. He's been a great player for Miami. Obviously,
there was a bump in the road with what happened
a couple of weeks ago, but I think he hitle
that situation really well, and it looks like he's really
maturing as a player and as a person. I would

(20:25):
say he is being really pragmatic from a standpoint that. Look,
if I have a chance to go with a title
with Patrick Mahomes and I just got paid again, sure
I'll take my keke and eat it too. I just
would be hard pressed Dan to see Miami move on.
He's been a great player for them. They just paid him.
I just don't see them wanting to do that.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Okay, that brings us to the tooist situation. If you're
the Dolphins GM. Now, once again we've said that this
is a business. We're looking at this from a business perspective,
trying not to be insensitive. But if you're the Dolphins GM,
do you is there any part of you that says
we have to look at moving on from our quarterbacking position?

(21:06):
Can we move on from our quarterbacking position?

Speaker 8 (21:09):
I think you know both things can be true that
we believe in Tua. We also have to act in
a responsible way. Just give them what's happened obviously in
the last couple of weeks and earlier in his career.
And I think the best way to do that Dan
Candidley is probably next year's draft. I just think the
cost when you're paying a guy over fifty million a year,
I think it's really hard to bring in you know,

(21:30):
fill in the blank, Gardon Minshew, Joe Flacco and add
another ten million dollars of resources where you have obviously
a lot of other needs you want to address. So
to me, maybe it's a second round pick. You know,
I mentioned it last year. It's a little bit apple starrages,
but similar like with Dak Prescott, like at that time,
Dak's heading into the last year of his deal. If
I'm Jerry Jones, I'm drafting Spencer Rattler in the second

(21:51):
or third round just to give me a little insurance.
And those second or third round quarterbacks stand are such
a value relative to the cap that to me, if
I'm Miami or another team that just Trevor Lawrence is
another one. Hey, I'm going to start hedging, But I
got to hedge through the draft.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out do you think
the NFL wants to to be medically cleared.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
That's a simple question and complicated answer. First of all,
just for the audience. The last step for any player,
including to it to be clear to play, he has
to be cleared by an independent neurologist. I've been in
situations where a player went through the other four steps,
we got to a Saturday expecting the player would play,
had no setbacks, and an independent neurologist wouldn't clear a player,

(22:35):
which includes things like having contact at practice, having your
baseline test compared to where it was in the spring.
So I think the league, ultimately Dan, they're going to
stand on we've changed our protocol and process and if
AND one two is cleared, it's by a jointly appointed physician.
So be it the Dolphins or any other team, they're

(22:57):
not dealing with the issue of hey, we're clearing a
player for our interests, not the players.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I just can't imagine holding your breath, Mike for another
seventy games with Tua when you sign him to this deal,
and what are the odds that he'll never have another concussion.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean, obviously those are very low. And that's
why to me like their next step is, look, when
he's played, he's played well, but Jill, he's been issued.
He played full season last year, Let's give him credit.
But beyond that, be it at Alabama or in the pros,
he's had issues. That's why I think Miami's next step
would probably be in the draft, because you're right, if
you and I were running a team, it wouldn't be
reasonable to think that he's going to play seventeen games

(23:37):
without another pump of the road.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Can you see a situation where and once again I
have no information on this. I did ask about this
yesterday with an NFL scout that maybe Shudor Sanders would say,
I'm not going to Carolina, Like, do you think we'll
see an Eli Manning situation with any of these quarterbacks
in the coming years?

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Absolutely? And here's why they have a lot more money.
You know, some of these guys are coming in with
eight figures worth of you know, nil deal or what
suon will be revenue share, and so you know, if
you have ten million dollars in your bank account, you're
going to comport yourself differently than if you're coming in
as someone that's just trying to make it economically. So
it's not going to be a lot of players, but

(24:20):
it's a sure door. Sanders certainly and arch Banning will
certainly come to mind, not just because of his lineage,
but presumably by all the money he's probably making at Texas.
So when these higher profile quarterbacks are working their way
through the system, without question, Look, Caleb Williams didn't do that.
He probably had the stature if he wanted to for
whatever reason. Hey I don't want to be a bear.

(24:42):
He may have been able to do it economically.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And I wonder about this being a former GM. They're
getting paid now, they're professionals in college and they have money.
So does that help you when you're drafting these quarterbacks
of mature level or you know, they they understand finances
a little bit more. They're not going to go out

(25:05):
and blow their money on you know, Amaserani as soon
as they get there. Does that help in drafting somebody
when you feel like they got a little bit of
a head start in that category.

Speaker 8 (25:17):
Yes, But here's the counter that Dan. I've talked to
a lot of people in the league about this. Here's
what we don't know. And Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels
are just the most recent examples when quarterbacks transfer, that
used to be a big red flag. Obviously the world's
different now, but when you've only had adulation and been
able to move situations when you weren't happy, that doesn't

(25:39):
happen in the NFL. So if in one Kitla Williams
has a four game losing streak, he's not going to
be able to go from the Bears to the Packers
and to be able to have the mental toughness and
the resiliency you know when you talk to Parcels about
Phil Simmonson's formative years and what was like to develop
a quarterback in New York or Eli Manning early on,
like they had a mental toughness that is rare. And

(26:01):
that's something we don't know about these young quarterbacks. And
we're going to learn, I think, both good and bad
in the coming years on especially the guys that have transferred,
and how they handle criticism and how they handle hard
coaching when things aren't going well.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Good stuff, Mike, great to talk to you again.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
Thank you all right, Dan, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Mike tannebaumy ESPN NFL Front Office Insider. You can see
them on Get Up Sports Center, NFL Live. Yeah, it's tricky,
you know, when you have money and therefore and also
you know, you look at these quarterbacks. Our Heisman winners
have all transferred, So you're playing on a different team

(26:39):
and you're running a different you're running a business. You're
already running a business the way college football is now
you're being paid like you're a CEO of a business.
And I think that's the interesting part is I see
these you know, quarterbacks coming into the NFL, maybe with
a little more seasoning. A couple of phone calls in
here Allin in New York. Fritzy has his Sports Center

(27:02):
tees as well, Hey Colin hey.

Speaker 9 (27:06):
Man, talking about some of your best interviews. I love
the Pedro Martinez interview when he's talking about what did
he buy when he got money? The first thing he
bought fruit juice and he bought jeans. I thought that
was awesome. It really puts it like the perspective. I
don't know about you, but I take for granted those things,
and like when you are able to put things into
perspective in an interview like that. It's really great. It

(27:27):
really just makes an interview even better when you're doing that,
or when talking about Billy Bob Thornton's dad was really
a high school coach fucking Texas or whatever and he
played that role, or when he was talking about the
character he played in Goliath was the closest to him
that he ever played. It's like it blows you back
because I mean, who is in a big fan and
Billy Bob Thornton's great. I mean, you got some great interviews.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Man, Well thank you, Colin. Yeah, it's it's getting the
right person on the show. And a lot of times
I had not talked to Billy Bob Thornton or Michael
Douglas when he came in, Orana Reeves.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
But I do.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I do have the ability to be curious, and that's
what I try to be. I'm curious. Hopefully you live
through me by proxy that you'll be curious as well,
or you want answers to things that maybe you didn't
even think you cared about, and to be able to
have like Canu. Reeves is one of my top five interviews,

(28:24):
just because he couldn't have been more delightful and nice
and willing to have fun, make fun of himself, you know,
when he's making fun of a movie role that he's
in and how he sounded in that movie role. I
just I appreciated that Michael Douglas came in and blew
us away. I mean that, like, that's a star. Michael

(28:45):
Douglas walked in and we're like, damn, he's a star.
And I'm thinking, and we were told, hey, doesn't know
much about sports. I was like, well, we're going to
find out. And that wasn't true. You know, maybe that
he's not up on the nuts and bolts of sports,

(29:06):
but he told stories. He was just great. And sometimes
you get people in that position and they want to
be great. You're competitive. I always tap into I want you.
I got to compete with you for your answers. I
got to work and I got to let you know
that we're going here. Let's see what we can get

(29:27):
out of this. You know, did you base your role
on pat Riley and the way he looked with the Lakers?
Did you talk to pat Riley when you're in Wall
Street when you're Gordon get Go? And I know he's
been asked these questions over the years, But when you
get somebody who actually answers a question as if it's
the first time you've asked it, that's when you're onto

(29:48):
something and it's something special. I was told Billy Bob
Thornton is difficult, and I said, all right, let's give
it a go. And there were times when I thought
he could have been a little irascible, little difficult, but
he told stories and he had fun, and that's all

(30:10):
you want. I don't want to waste your time. I
always want if you're spending time in the car or
at home, who are you having on? Why are you
having them on? And you know this is where you
know it's collective, Pauli'll say I got an idea here,
Seaton might say something, or Marvin Fritzy, and then Fritzi's

(30:31):
job is to try to get them on and that
so it's collaborative. It's certainly not just me. I get
the credit and get the blame, but that's the way
it works. I have no problem with that. But to
be able to have that opportunity. See, I always envied
Howard Stern because he gets an hour with somebody like
you give me an hour, and you know, if it's

(30:52):
a big time celebrity. I'm gonna get some things out
of it. You know, you do your research and you're curious,
and they come in knowing that they're there for an hour.
We got a lot to talk about. That's a luxury.
I might get seven minutes, I might get ten minutes.
But you try to get as much as you can

(31:12):
out of that that whatever time they give you. Yeah, pulling.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I love when we get something that we didn't know
out of someone who you think you know everything about. You,
asked Michael Douglas, who played Gordon Gek on Wall Street, Say,
was it inspired by pat Riley? Was totally inspired by
pat Riley? The hare he goes, I wanted to look
like a superstar in a boardroom. And then the other
one was Wayne Gretzky. You think Wayne Gretzy's talked all

(31:37):
hockey ego. He told you, oh, I want to play baseball.
I wanted to play second base for the Detroit Tigers.
I didn't want to be a hockey player. And people
are like, no, I never heard that story before.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, if you're watching on Peacock, we re air interviews,
and there are times when I'm watching an interview I
don't remember that response, because we've done so many over
the years. But it's nice where you remember something where
you go, oh, well, okay, we got something out of
that person. And that's the goal every day. If you

(32:09):
don't remember what somebody said on the show, anything from
that guest, then I didn't do my job because it's
not up to them to entertain you. It's up to
me to get them to entertain you. All right, blah
blah blah. Let me take a break here. I know
I get all, hey, how about me, I'm I'm the goat. No,

(32:31):
but I do have a love of interviewing, and I
think you know, you have to want to find out
something about somebody. You don't want to I don't want
to hear my question. I want to hear your answer.
All right, Well, take a break. Class Call for phone calls.
What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? Yes, Fritsy will
have his sports entertees. We will make time for that.
We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Last call for phone calls. What we learn? Once in
store tomorrow, this day in sports History, and Fritzie also,
we're gonna write today's tomorrow's headlines today. Let's do Sports
Center tees first with Fritzie. Let's get that. I mean,
let's get that. That's get that out so we don't
miss out on that. That's what I meant to say. Okay,

(33:27):
alrighty are we ready?

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Marv coming up on Sports Center? Cheaters prospered until they didn't.
How the Strows got squeezed that minute made by the
men from Motown.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
The Yankees better have their wit about them. Bobby's headed
to the Bronx after closing camped in.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yards, Tomahawk chopped Capada showed their bark and their bite
at pet Goo.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Let's go Mets, not so fast?

Speaker 6 (33:52):
How the brew crew brought about a deciding Game three
and old Milwaukee.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Will Baker get cooked in hot Lantern?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
How the Birds plan to.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Do the Bucks dirty? In an NFC South till all
in the Adams family.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Will Devonte be silver and back with his former QB
from the Pack also taking command. Who Jane Daniel's credits
for becoming a welcome leader in Washington. He's willing to
die on the hill Tyreek explains why he's not moving
from Miami. A South Beach studio would be nice, but
we're not budging from Bristol Sports Centers.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Next, no acapella.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
It's not a pre recorded thing like the big shots
do in Bristol. This is a live thing I'm doing.
It's hard to time it exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, maybe less you overrite.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
I overwrote it by about two lines.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, it could have been great, But it's not just saying.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
So close.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
You care so much about this I do.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
I'd like to see the guys that actually do this, like,
do it live and see how it nail, how they
hit the post and nail it just to the right second,
doing it love.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
We don't have to do it live.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
It's fun to do it live. And then you get
to make fun of me that I went too longer
with your shot.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know, but you should time it out where it's
always a little less.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
And I was talking as fast as I could there.
Oh yeah, we too.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's not a good thing. Would you talk too much? Okay?

Speaker 5 (35:05):
You like the content even though I don't even.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't what I mean. I wasn't listening.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Wow, forgetable.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, I listen like you a sweeper room, you know.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Eleven.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, not there. And we do have a lot of
people volunteered therapists to volunteered to listen to your issues
and do it on camera.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
They would probably quit their job as if they're.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Well, they they have I mean, this is their job
to listen to troubled people.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Yeah, but then you've reached every time, every so often
you reach somebody, You're like, oh my god, this is
not what I bargained for me.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
I'm done with this whole therapist thing.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yes, the therapist would have to know in advance that
whatever advice they give to Fritzy he will ignore and
not do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah. Yeah, I because I'll say, for over twenty years,
I've asked, you, told, you, recommended, suggested, and it's rare
and you ever follow my advice.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
I appreciate the suggestions anyway, this is what I think
is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
That's why I just don't There's no need to give
you advice anymore.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
What an arrogance person.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
How about this day in sports history, let's go.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
A couple of them. Artchell became the first African American
head coach in the modern NFL, took over the Raiders
in eighty nine. Barry Bonds two thousand and one broke
Bayreuth's single season record for walks at one seventy one.
A couple of years later he did two thirty two
and twenty twelve. Miguel Cabrera triple crown. He three thirty average,

(36:36):
forty four homers, and one hundred third and nine.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
RBI underrated underrated professional hitter. On this date in nineteen
seventy four, Jerry West retires after fourteen NBA seasons. On
this date in two thousand, Rick Angkeel he throws five
wild pitches in the third inning. I remember watching that,
and that was just tormented. And then he gave up

(37:03):
pitching and then became an outfielder. But I mean, you're
watching that, that ability to just throw a baseball, but
the mental block that you have with that, that was
that was really really difficult to watch. Okay, how about
tomorrow's headline today, Todd, you're mister headline.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
This one's for the birds. Not pretty, but Falcons beat Bucks.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Okay, they weren't impressed.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I don't know. I just Marvin, what about you.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Shake and bake?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Buccaneers take down the Falcons all right, who's the shake?
I don't know, but it bake like Bacaker.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, Okay, PAULI, this one be gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Patty Cake, patty Cake Baker's man handling the Falcons a
little wordy.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
But but there's creativity on that. I'm gonna give you
a blop on that.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Patty Cake Patty Baker's man handle out.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Yeah, when they're singing, involved them all, let's.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
The kids, yeah, Okay. Final results of the pole question
tot why.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
When I was just going to get the same price.
Who would you want as your quarterback the next three seasons?
Baker Mayfield seventy one percent, Trevor Lawrence fourteen, Kyler Murray
twelve to two, and Deshaun Watson under one percentage.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Dang, pretty crazy, pretty crazy, fretty crazy. Let me see
Andrew in California. Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Dan?

Speaker 10 (38:37):
Dennett's six foot in spikes and healthy one seventy.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Uh Dan?

Speaker 10 (38:45):
So I was just trying to get your opinion. What
do you think about bringing Michael Pennix into the Dolphins
situation to already have a you know, a pro year
under his belt. You're not starting some scratch. You know,
he was a good college player, but you know he's
not doing any good riding the pine behind Cousins. What
do you think bringing him in behind Tua?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Uh? Nope, if you're Atlanta, hold on to him because
I think he's got a chance to be a star. Yeah,
it'd be great for the Dolphins, but that means you're
totally giving up on Tua. What happens when Tua comes
back and he's healthy. So I thought Russell Wilson might
be an option for them, but you know, he's still

(39:26):
got to get healthy, and you know, Steelers probably wouldn't
trade him, but trying to get somebody who can sort
of be that band aid there. I mean, you gotta
wait and see if two is cleared, and then what
happens after that? Then do they get to the point
of let's sell off things by the trade deadline? Right,
let's go around the room. What we learn on the program.

(39:46):
By the way, it's Big ten Saturday Night, number twelve,
Michigan at Washington Saturday on Nbcpeacock Here comes Saturday Night,
presented by Discover the Gambling Podcast. We'll be up at
Danpatrick dot com a little bit later on This safter Noon,
Shay and Irving, Dylan the graphics Guy, and bad Larry
uh righty uh Todd, Wou'd you learn today?

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Nick Wright insists that even though something Cowboys related maybe
on the screen during his show, at all times they're
not necessarily talking.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
About Dallas every second.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Marvin, you never drink before Sports Center? No, I didn't,
Paulie Nick right as a man, and he's forty. I
did drink after Sports Center, though, Todd, what did I
learn today?

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Tiger's whole roster, of course, eighteen point eight million dollars
Astros relieve of Josh Hayter nineteen million alone.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
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(40:50):
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