October 11, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan Patrick looks at the current rookie quarterback class, as two more look to make their NFL debut in Week 6. Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joins Dan to look at what other coaches may lose their jobs prior to the end of the season. Plus, Dan previews one of the biggest college football rivalry games of the season!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio hour two on this Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's a meat Friday at that and yes, there will
be another pea bomb coming up. Pauli week in and
week out shocking the college football world with upsets. Here,
what will it be today? You'll have to wait and see.
It's a meat Friday, smash burgers, pigs in a blanket,
fries and I think there's an apple pie out there too.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
No body.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Start of the Day brought to you by Penni America,
the official Trading Cards. The Dan Patrick Show Pole question
for hour two is going to be once Seaton O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We got many up there for our one, Dan, why
don't we run down those results? A bigger game this
weekend for the Cowboys or the Lions. Right now, seventy
three percent say the Cowboys. This is interesting to me.
Biggest win last night Guardians, Lynx, Niners, Yankees. Right now
the Guardians have about thirty six percent of that, followed
(01:04):
by the Yankees Niners in the links not really getting
a ton of love there. And then it is advancing
from the Alds to the Alcs champagne worthy right now.
Sixty six percent say no. That means thirty three percent
say yes, actually wants thirty four percent.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm in that thirty four percent. Yeah, I'm okay with celebrating.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't want to celebrate. I don't I don't want
to celebrate like we won the World Series.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Should we cut down the nets after the first round
of the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, they would discourage that because there are other games than.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Wait, why are we playing with the Rims that don't
have nets on advancing out of Dayton gets Yeah, the
first four. Well you cut down the nets after you win, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Actually, they do cut down the nets at different stages
of the NCAA tournament. You don't see it on TV,
but if you attend like a sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Sixteen game, well, regional final.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, So that's similar to this stage of the baseball playoffs,
like if you get if you advanced to the Sweet sixteen,
you win your first two, I've seen teams cut them down,
but there's no one around to televise it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But then after the Sweet sixteen you have the Elite
eight of the final four, you have the thing Okay,
I don't know that. I don't know. Why are you
a buzzkill? Though? What's wrong with celebrating? There's nothing wrong
with celebrating, having some fun appropriate things to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
All right, Okay, who is against champagne dreams after winning
the divisional Series?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh? Everybody on the other side.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
There's different types of celebration.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
I think the champagne part of it that's more for
we won the pennant than go.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, when I see the goggles, then maybe that's a
step too far. Yes, okay, that was last night, but
they were still celebrating with champagne. Not everybody had goggles on.
But I would like to tamp that down a little bit.
No goggles then I'd be fine with that. But it's
like us, We're never going to win a Sports Emmy,
(03:06):
So I say, why not celebrate the nomination? And then
you guys don't want to celebrate the nomination, And I said,
why don't we just get champagne and spray it all
over one another? And we did that one time. I
think we had champagne when we lost the Sports Emmy.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, we didn't win the Sports Emmy.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You don't lose if you're in the you know, in
the running for a Sports Emmy. But we should celebrate
all of those years we got nominated. We never celebrated,
did we? Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
No, I could remember the first one we got nominated.
I think I think we're in Houston and we heard
about it in the midday after the show and we
all went out to a dinner. And remember that rainstorm
that hit in the middle of our dinner when we
were sitting outside in Houston and we were with all
our DIRECTORV crew. We were celebrating that night. Okay, that
was our first nomination. Okay, and there was a big rainstorm.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But we haven't celebrated since. No, Yes, Tod, I don't.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Want to be a downer, but I guess you kind
of do lose the Sports Emmy or anything. Where as
a winner, everyone else would be a loser. You could
be a nominee for an Academy Award, but ultimately one
box has the person smiling and the rest of them,
you know, pretend to clap for them and act like
they're happy that somebody won. If you have a winner,
then there's got to be a loser.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I feel like we win by being nominated.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That's a healthy attitude.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yes, and that's the way you should look at it.
Took ye.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now you know what the problem is is that people
are like, well, you guys got like a dozen already anyway,
I know, Like, no, we don't. We don't have any.
You've never won any like, No, that's why I want
to win one.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, we're not going to.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
We had a run of like I don't know, five
years or so where we probably should have gotten one. Yeah,
and then we didn't get it. In that win though,
I don't think we're winning it. I think Pete are either.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Pete Rose has a better chance getting into the Hall
of Fame than we do winning a Sports Emmy.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Wow, that's a statement.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
RG.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, what happens first we win a Sports Emmy or
Pete gets on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
For the Hall of Fame. I think Pete's.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, because the novelty of this show is over. Yeah,
you know they're like, oh, look at that. They're going
up against Sports Center, Baseball tonight and like all these
big shows, College Game Day and they go where can
you hear that? Or I didn't know he was still
doing broadcasting. He's still doing a show. How old is he?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes? Tom?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What about that twenty twenty seven Lifetime Achievement kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I don't want one of those.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Months before you get it, I will not accept well
accept No, I don't want a lifetime Achievement award.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I don't call it that.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
You just all of a sudden, we happen to win
the Sports Time in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't want it. I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
You'll think it's because if we won, that it's because
you're leaving seven months later.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yes, and I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I'm just letting the academy know I don't want that,
not that they were going to give it to me.
But we win. If I win, we win. When we win,
I win.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It'd be cool though if like if like like we
won though, yeah, I know when you win, like, yeah,
look we all won. But it'd be cool if there
was one where it was like, hey, look, you guys
all won.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
There'd be nothing better than if the show won with
all the I mean, we only have twelve people in
this show.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's you got twelve people at ESPN who you know
work in the cafeteria, the checkout line. I mean, we
don't have many people. And that's why I would take great,
great pride in that that we as a group we
took on the giants and we won.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of times where it's like, hey,
Dan Patrick won this, and it's like, oh, yeah, you
guys too.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's kind of how it is.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, no, but it would be awesome if the Dan Patrick
Show and everyone under that Animal Kingdom umbrella also is included.
I agree, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So this show ends in three years and four months,
that will be eligible for the next Emmy, the one
three months after that. They could nominate us or not nominated.
If we get nominated and go, we wear goggles and
bring champagne to that last Emmy Awards. Goggles and champagne,
all right, because it would be a great bit whether
we won or lost.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We see, we'd make a mess up there.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
And then we're gone, we're out.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You'd have Melissa Stark out there handing out an award
and maybe she'd you know, slip on the champagne. Don't
want that, No, we don't want that. Don't want anything
happening there. Ernie Johnson wins another one. He comes out
and he's like, you know, trudging through.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Puddles, maybe as a presenter if.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
He slipped, that would be okay.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah, bonus coverage.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Did you see jose Canseco tweeted, he hates a RB.
It's like, I hope everyone in Florida except one person
is okay. Wow. If we did.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
A poll question more likable Knseko or a Rod, I think.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It might be tight. I'm gonna take Kenseko.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I think he's winning the poll because.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
He's not in the spotlight. It's just all right. That
guy's wild. He hates a rob. I hope everybody's okay
in Florida except for one guy.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Dang, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Alrighty, welcome already in progress here, good morning. If you're
watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around the country.
I don't know if we can top what we did
in the first hour because we touched on a lot
of things, including Fritzie's physique is similar to a bullfrog,
and a bullfrog is an animal. And Todd had a
(08:28):
long night last night.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Significant dinner, yes, very heavy dinner.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, But at no point did you go, you know what,
maybe I don't need to have all of this for
my birthday.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I didn't really think about that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
It was dessert time when when she said, would you
like to see a dessert menu? And I immediately say, yeah,
I'll take a look and take a peek and see
what you.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Got after you'd had steak mac and cheese.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Lapto mac and cheese calamario, at least three rolls with
like a little pumpkin butter kind of thing on it,
and uh a big baked potato with all the fixens.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go, carrot cake.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I think, oh my gosh, vegetables and yeah, all the
food groups that Todd loves.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Cake and I got a three in the morning wick.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Up, Yeah, Todd things, carrot cake is vegetables.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I did kind of count that as like something that's
of course somewhat course got the word carroten winner, all.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, thank you, Tom. I just feel like the healthier
of the cakes, got it. Man. I've fallen to that too,
where I'm like, it's not that bad.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Because one said molten lava cake, one said brownie cookie thing,
and they said carrot cake.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
All right, that's not bad.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Let's be responsible. We'll have some carrot cake.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You're not going to get the fruit platter or whatever
that thing, if they give your cantle open to whatever
coming up.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Mike Floria from Pro Football Talk will join us and
the Most must Win Game of the Weekend or the
mm W g O t W, speaking of which Tom
in North Carolina. Hi Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (09:54):
DP, you got two quick things. So my most must
win is the Eagles, and that's probably going to be
the same the whole year. I think they're gonna be
maybe in the same situation as the Jets. They may
be touching on that with Mike Florio later, But also
(10:15):
I was going to talk about North Carolina's favorite son,
Drake May starting this weekend, and also Spencer Rattler. The
Saints went from two point favorites to two and a
half point underdogs when that announcement was made, and then
when they announced Drake May was going to be starting,
the line didn't move at all, And I was wondering
(10:35):
about your opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I didn't notice.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's the Texans are favored by six and a half
over the Patriots, and let's see the Saints they are
getting three and a half against the Buccaneers. Yeah, Spencer
Rattler can make some plays. He just doesn't make enough
of them. He's not consistent enough. But the Saints against
(11:00):
the Buccaneers and then Drake May against Houston against that
front four. I was kind of surprised at then.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
The question is when you throw Drake May in like it,
you're just you're putting him in the uh the washing machine,
and like, uh, hey, go in there and see what
you can come out with, and uh, it's probably gonna
feel like that. You're just going to be in the
spin cycle there and you're like, whoa, And Houston's good?
(11:36):
New England is I mean, New England could have won
the game against Miami, probably should have won the game
against Miami. But I think they're probably to the let's
all right, let's see what he can show. But because
you're also looking around the NFL and you're going, all right, well,
Bo Nicks is winning games, Jayden Daniels might be an
MVP candidate here, Caleb Williams coming off his best performance.
(11:58):
I don't know, Let's throw our guy in there a
little bit. Let's see the problem is the Bears are
a better team, the Commanders are a better team, and
Denver's a better team than New England and Drake May
is going to feel that Mac Jones feeling of damn,
I feel all alone out here with this offense.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Let me see Dan in Virginia. Hi, Dan, what's on
your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Dan Colin to talk about the origins of the pea
bomb word? Okay, when I was in high school, I
worked for the county painting schools. But the guys that
ran the mowers the mode the highways would call pea
bombs gatorade bottles that people would throw out of their cars.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh oh wow. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I used to work for the city in my hometown,
and I used to drive one of those mowing tractors
all over the city, so I would be cutting grass
out in large swaths of fields.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Good money.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah. And I had a friend who lived, I don't know,
a couple of miles away from you know where the
building was that we had to drive the tractor from.
And I'd show up in his backyard and I say,
care if I sleep for in a while, So occasionally
I'd go in and fall asleep on his couch while
I was supposed to be mowing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh the great good old days.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Statue limitation.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, that is that is true. But I was in
between schools at the time. I had just transferred and
I needed some money, and I was in the portal.
Nobody knew I was in the portal. Todd was in
the portal partty last night.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I was several times that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Portal potty. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
By the way, if there's one piece of a life
advice you want to give about using a porta potty
at like a tailgate or a football game, never look down,
look forward or up. Never ever look down. Do your
whatever you got to do in that porta potty with
your periphile vision.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't know why they don't include something that's universal
in all of those that you can look at. Maybe
it's a mirror, or maybe it's you know, like a
football schedule for each school that you're going to upcoming.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Schedule and you but.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Man, eyes up, yep, eyes up, And just.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
If you're looking for where to do your stuff, just
use your perifle vision. There's nothing good south on the border.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
M Yes, Tom.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I don't like when someone taps on the door. Almost
done in there. You know, we've got some people. I
got a long line out here.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's always a little frustrating. When you feel like you're
on the clock.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, how do you think they feel following you?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That is a whole other problem. But I don't like
feeling rush plants.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Fritzy.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, he's going to be in there for a while.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes see. I told you guys this one time. I
was at Olive Garden and uh, they had like a
bath room. It was like right in like the by
the front door, and for some reason that the place
is packed. There was like people waiting in line. There
was like a dozen people waiting by the front door
of your family couches and stuff. And I was sitting
at the table and I got the uh, the gurgle,
(15:17):
the rumble, if you will, and I was like, oh,
I gotta go. I got up and went and it.
I just unleashed holy hell in that bathroom, so much
so that I was laughing myself, which actually only made
it worse. And there were people going in and out,
and a guy definitely went in and was like Jesus
and uh, and it was just unbelievable what happened in there.
(15:41):
And then I had to walk out and all of
the people were waiting. I am positive everybody heard what
was happening. I'm also positive, and nobody was interested in
eating after that. It was horrible. Absolutely, it was so bad.
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I was even cracking up, which was just making everything.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh my god, that's crazy. I was.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was at a sporting event. I'm not going to
give great details on this, but a famous actress went
into a bathroom and it was a universal bathroom and
came out and she had detonated the bathroom. And every
time I see her, not in person, every time I see.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Her, I just think, oh my god, poor thing.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Last show.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
We're going to guess it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, probably, I mean, and I'm not. I'm not even
going to tell you the event I was at.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But US Open. No, you were watching a tennis match. Oh,
gonna take tennis.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It's going to take a break. Here, more phone calls
coming up inside, and we like knows we are back
after this.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
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Speaker 2 (17:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:43):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
The most must win game of the weekend is which
game in the NFL?
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Well, I would have said last night's game. The forty
nine ers desperately needed to avoid going oh and three
in their division, and they even were desperately needed to
avoid blowing another lead to a division rival. But now
that that one's over, it's got to be the Bengals
on Sunday Night. And I'm not saying that so I
get my check this week from NBC. But the Bengals
are desperate at one in four, and yeah, they start
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slowly every year, but the slow start has continued. They
fall to five losses, and Dan, I don't know that
there's a magic number of losses that disqualify you from
the playoffs. With seven spots per conference and seventeen games,
nine to eight I would think is the absolute minimum
to get in. They're already halfway to eight losses through
five games. They need this one on Sunday Night.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
What teams do you feel great about? Here we are
mid October. Could you put I feel great about this
team or teams?
Speaker 9 (18:44):
No? No, because the teams that I think are the
best don't have the best records. I think the forty
nine Ers and Ravens are the best teams I've seen
so far, but they have flaws. And the forty nine
Ers are what three and two? Three and three, and
the Ravens are three and two. So the Vikings are
a flawed five and oh, the Chiefs are a flawed five.
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And oh, I guess I feel good about the Chiefs
because we know they get better as the season goes on.
And these wins now are just money in the bank
that will make it easier for them to force playoff
games to come to Kansas City. But we know they
can go on the road and win in the playoffs. Two.
So I guess the Chiefs just because they're so damn resilient,
their defense is great, and their offense will improve and
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play well when it has to.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We saw Robert Sala relieved of his duties. Will we
have a coach another coach fired during the season In
your opinion, well.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Probably just because somebody's gonna lose these games, and if
you hit enough of a rough stretch, that's that. If
the Jaguars get embarrassed both games in London, they play
the Bears and then the Patriots. Doug Peterson's win this
past weekend over the Colts might not matter. It felt
like he was getting closer and closer to the end
because the owner made it pretty clear before the season,
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this is the most talented Jaguars team ever. He's wrong,
But when the owner thinks it, it doesn't matter if
he's wrong. He's the guy who's making the decision on
whether or not the coaching staff's getting it done with
the most talented team. So I still keep an eye
on the Jaguars. But what we learned on Tuesday, Dan,
it can happen to anyone. I would have never dreamed
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that it was going to happen to Robert Sala on Tuesday,
six days before they play a game that if they win,
it their time for first place in the division. A
defensive expert whose defense is great, an offense that is
off the rails, and it's his fault and he's the
one who's got to go. I was stunned that it happened,
and I wouldn't have picked it if I was ranking
who's most likely to get fired on Tuesday. I don't
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know that it would have been in the bottom half,
but it wouldn't have been in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, I said at the start of the year, Robert
sala is either going to be coach of the Year
or fired. And I don't think he was the right
person for the job. He's a defensive coordinator. Not every
coordinator deserves to be a head coach. But he did
do a good job with what he was told to
be a do a good job with their defense. The
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offense is on Aaron Rodgers. I mean, now, he did
take blame yesterday. He said, yeah, if I play better,
Robert Slick keeps his job. Now, moving forward, what do
you expect out of the Jets?
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Well, the question is now that Todd Downing is taking
over as essentially offensive coordinator, with Nathaniel Hackett taking a
back seat, how much will that limit the things that
Rogers does at the line of scrimmage. He likes to
have the freedom to change plays if he wants who
He cites his extensive experience, and there's an argument to
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be made that at some point you got to defer
to what this guy has seen, what this guy has done.
I don't know how much better it's going to be.
I don't know how much philosophically it's going to change.
I don't know how well Aaron Rodgers and Todd Downing
get along or don't get along. All I know is
Aaron Rodgers isn't the guy that he was a few
years ago. He looked disinterested at times in the first
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half on Sunday. Rodney Harrison's interpretation is that's how a
guy looks when he can no longer do what he
used to do and he's coming to terms with it. Now.
The arm is still there, but the legs go first.
And if you're Tom Brady and the legs never mattered anyway,
you go into you're forty five, if you're Aaron Rodgers
and you made your living by getting out of trouble,
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and all of a sudden you can't. I think that's
where we see that frustration starting to come out.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I have mentioned this, this isn't an attractive job.
And I know we love to throw out Mike Rabel
and Bill Belichick. I would run from this opportunity, not
to absolutely because and I never thought I would say this.
The reason why it's one of the reasons why it's
not attractive is because of Aaron Rodgers. I don't know
how long he stays, and I would take over that
(22:57):
job if Aaron Rodgers decided to retire, then it becomes
a little more attractive. You got a really good defense,
you got some younger offensive players, you still have that
ownership there. I don't know what you do at the GM,
but Belichick's not going there. Is Rabel going to go there?
Or Ben Johnson or the Lion's gonna go there? I
just doesn't It doesn't feel attractive.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
We talked about this earlier in the week on PFT Live.
I'm a firm believer that anyone who has options is
not going to want to go there. I don't think
Rogers will be back if they don't make the playoffs,
and even if they do, I'm not sure he's going
to want to put himself through it again with or
without Rogers. Though the owner is the one constant is
Jed York of the forty nine Ers said seven or
eight years ago, you can't fire the owner, and the
thread for the Jets and Jets fans get mad about
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this because there's nothing they can do about it. They're
stuck with Woody Johnson until he sells the team or
otherwise naturally ends his tenure as the owner of the team.
So you can't do anything about it. You can't deprive
yourself the thing you love. The only way to force
a guy to sell would be to boycott. So thoroughly
there losing money, and the only thing we can do
is sell the team. That's ever going to happen. People
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love the Jets, they want to go to the games,
they want to follow the team. So I look at
a guy like Steve Spagnolo, who might not have an
option anywhere else, bring him back to New York. He
was great with the Giants. We've been saying he deserves
another opportunity. If no one else is going to give
it to him, why not get it with the Jets?
Or like a Ryan Grubb, you know Dave Canalis last year,
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one year's offensive coordinator the Panthers, or Bucks goes to
the Panthers. Who else was taking the Panthers job? Ryan Grubb,
great job with Gino Smith goes to the Jets, because
who else is going to take the Jets job.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host,
I saw where you were mixing it up a little
bit with the New York media in their coverage of
Aaron Rodgers. What were you bothered about by how they
were covering Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Well, I wasn't mixing it up with them. They chose
to mix it up with me rather than address it
on the merits with on ad Hominem attacks and other things.
And I don't care about that anymore. I'm too old
and I met the I call it the NFG phase
of my career. No f's given where it's not worth it.
Life's too short to get into these stupid fights. Dan,
I've learned a lot from working with you and listening
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to you and watching you over the years. You're one
of the best interviewers ever. You know how to ask
questions in a way that doesn't piss people off, but
it gets to the heart of the matter. And I
was just disappointed yesterday by the press conference of Aaron Rodgers.
All that had to be asked if Aaron Rodgers, with
one very simple question seven words, did Robert Sola deserve
to be fired? The answer to that would have been
(25:32):
incredibly revealing, because so much time has been spent this
week with Rogers kind of puffing his chest out. I
resent any suggestion that I caused this, Okay, fine, but
you could have stopped it. You could have prevented it.
And I think that's what we need to drill down on.
Did you have a chance to prevent it? And if
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you didn't, man, that's a hell of a story too.
So that's what bothered me. It was a golden opportunity
to ask him questions, not belligerent, not rifled with animosity,
just simple questions like you do that get right to
the heart of the matter. And they whift. They just whiffed.
And if they're mad about it, show some of that
to Aaron Rodgers. Don't direct it at me. Redirect it
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back to Rodgers the next time you can ask him questions.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Is there a franchise in worse shape than Cleveland?
Speaker 9 (26:23):
No, because they are not stuck with a contract it
requires ninety two million dollars to be paid in twenty
twenty five and twenty twenty six combined. The Browns are
in one of the worst situations of the salary cap era,
and it's clearly the worst trade and sign that we've
seen in the salary cap era. You can say the
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herschel Walker trade was worse, but this is a combination
of three first round picks, three other picks, and two
hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed for a guy that
was facing a suspension and a guy who hadn't played
at all in twenty twenty one. And now here we
are in the third year. They're not getting a return
and they're in a damn thing they can do. They
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have to pay him, they don't have to play him.
And at this point, Dan, I would trade off assets.
I would get extra draft picks, I would bench him,
and I would go young because the young guys are
cheap enough. You can carry the ninety two million and
pay that money and fill out your roster with young,
cheap players. That's what I would do if I was
the Browns and you.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Look back on this trade and you would have thought that,
you know, the Texans would have been saying, hey, please
take him. We'll give you this and this and this.
They got draft picks, they got first round picks. This
guy was damaged goods, and that's they didn't get a bargain.
This is where you get a bargain. You go, hey,
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let's take a chance on this guy. You know, he's
got a shady past here, Bud, he's shown glimpses. You know, hey,
well we'll take him off your hands. You got to
pay part of his salary. You got to throw in
a draft pick or two, like that's what you would think.
But the fact that the Browns gave him a deal
he couldn't refuse and gave them those draft picks and
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they that's helped the Texans become a playoff team.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Amazing, amazing, moved by Nick Cassero, the gym of the team, Dan,
I remember when it was happening. The Texans created a competition,
even though it was March, months away from an actual game,
they were able to set up a four team basically
chase for Deshaun Watson. And in the offseason that's when
teams try to spend or otherwise maneuver their way to relevance.
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And so you had the Saints, the Panthers, the Falcons,
and the Browns. And the Browns were the first team
that got tapped on the shoulder at the dance contest.
And what did they do? What did they do? They said,
let's make this guy an offer he can't refuse and boom,
there it was. And the other thing Casceo did it
was brilliant Dan, You basically got preapproved for the loan.
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You couldn't even talk to Watson unless you put on
the table a trade package the casser would have accepted.
And it was great, it was brilliant. Four teams show up,
Browns get thrown overboard, Browns come back with this ridiculous offer,
and now they're stuck with the aftermath of it.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
All quiet on the two afront any updates.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
Well, everything's pointing toward him coming back week eight, when
he's able to return from injured reserve. What we saw
this week with Josh Allen, I think brings into focus
the balance between the boxes that are checked to put
a player back on the field after an actual or
suspected head injury brain injury to be more accurate, and
(29:36):
healthcare an endgame when somebody's possibly suffered a brain injury.
I think a lot of times we see that urgency
to check the boxes and get the guy back on
the field rather than engaging in actual healthcare. And I
say that because with the urgency that we're feeling now
with the Dolphins all they need toolback so badly, everything's
pointing that direction. He's on the sidelines for the games.
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I thought we would have the conversation after the season
as to whether or not he'd continue. I don't know
if it's in his best interest to jump back into it,
because this wasn't some fluke injury. This is like in
the top three of the things that can happen to
a quarterback. This isn't what happened to Tamorrow Hamlin one
in a billion. This is something that happens all the time,
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and it's happened repeatedly to Tuam with the fencing posture
on top of it. I'm very concerned about Tua. I
know it's his right, it's his right, the right to life.
Liberty in the pursuit of happiness includes the right to
screw up your life if you choose to do so,
and people take far greater risks for far less money.
I'm just concerned about him. If he was my son,
my brother, my cousin, I'd be I wouldn't be able
to watch a game. I wouldn't be able to function
(30:38):
for those three hours worrying about him having another brain injury.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
The Josh Allen situation, the optics were terrible. I mean,
I now he I think set his ankle I mean,
I mean, I don't know if he grabbed his ankle,
but it's like Tua had another concussion where he said
it was his back.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
They're going to find the nature of it.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
That's the thing. These guys want to play willing. Joe
Burrow said after the two stuff was going on a
couple of years ago. This is what we signed up for.
That's why it's all the more important. If you're going
to create this many little healthcare apparatus that assesses a
guy for a concussion during a game, it can't be
you know, the urgency that we saw last Thursday night,
when the Falcons are rushing to the line of scrimmage
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and spiking the ball and the officials are helping, it's like,
we got to check them. We got to get the
guy back in and see the league. Even though the
doctor that makes the final call is unaffiliated from the team,
the league wants the best players on the field. When
Derek Carr left on Monday night, Jake Haner came in
just turn off the damn game. If Mitch Rubisky had
stayed in on Sunday and Allen had been ruled out,
turn off the damn game. The league doesn't want that,
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so they've got Even though the doctors are disconnected from
the team, there's still a conflict of interest there where
we want these guys on the field and they want
to go on the field. That's the problem. Who's the
voice of reason that says, hang on, hang on, you
shouldn't go out and we're not letting you go out
on the field.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But do you see these guardians helmets actually being mandatory.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Well, the NFL says that the guardian cap is less
effective than the position specific helmets that they've now developed.
I responded to that by saying, well, if you put
a guardian cap on those helmets, they would be even safer.
I think the NFL is very concerned about the aesthetics
because it's such a visual sport. TV is what made
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football what it is, and when you see a guy,
it looks like a lumpy beanbag chair that needs to
be you know, like re sculpted. There was a guy
last night and it stands out got for the forty
nine ers had that big thing and fans don't want
to see that. I think it's incumbent on the league
to keep improving the helmet technology so it gets to
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the point where guardian caps are irrelevant. But at the
same time, no matter how good that helmet is, if
you put a guardian cap on it, it's going to
be even safer.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Have a great weekend, Mike. Thanks for joining Pro Football
Talk Live, co host and contributor to Football Night in America.
When we come back, the mm W g O t
W and Dylan stops by with some gambling advice.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Alright, let's run down the list of great games this weekend.
Commanders at the Ravens Markey game, Yes, it is big time.
This is where we find out are the Commanders really
the Commanders? Lions at the Cowboys O Markey game? How
about that? Of course, we remember last year came down
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to the wire. Remember it came down to this, the
Dan Skipper not reporting as eligible.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes, the Dan Skipper not reporting his eligible.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Game, the jersey wipe thing, Dan Skipper, but he.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Went over to the officials and they kind of did it,
but then didn't and then he wasn't. Yes, that was
a big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
This game features the largest over undertotal of the weekend
at fifty two and a half. College football, Ohio State
at Oregon Massive. Yeah Yeah. Ducks have reeled off wins
over Michigan State, Oregon State, and UCLA. This will be
This will be as talented as any team they will
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face this year. And of course Jeremiah Smith the star
wide receiver for the buck Geys. Texas at Oklahoma. It's
the Red River rivalry. Texas has won all five of
its game so far and they have blown everybody out.
Quinn Yours he has not played since the second week
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in September. They didn't miss him with arch Manning in there.
And then you have the Tigers at the Guardians. That'll
be carry Scouble will be on the mound, the cy
young winner in the American League, and he's as the
kids like to say, he's filthy. He has some great
stuff there. You also have the Podres and the Dodgers
(35:19):
coming up tonight. So the what would be the most
must win game of the weekend?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
The most must win game?
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Yes, Todd, I am going to go with one of
our calls earlier, Tom in North Carolina, who says it's
a must must win for the Eagles at home against
the lowly Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It feels like the Cleveland Browns are going to pull
off a win at some point where you go wow,
that they will actually be who we thought maybe they
were going to be started the season.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Pea bombs.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, that's not a pea bob. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't have a pea bomb. It felt pea bombs.
PAULI has it. The Browns will beat the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's a P bomb. If it's actually a P two
BOMBA bomb.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Okay, a Seaton Most must win game of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I feel like it's kind of a most must win
game for Ohio State and Oregon, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
H You can have two losses, You could have two
dog Yeah, I think so. Two losses can still make
the plans.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
It feels like two losses is acceptable for some teams
and not others.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Though, yes, Alabama could have two losses. Ole Miss cannot.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Ohio State can have two losses. I don't know if
Oregon can. Can. They it's getting a.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Little late in the season to have two losses.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
A little late, a little late in the season.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Two losses, Yeah, to start two Marvin.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The mmwg ot W quick question, is this for all sports? Yeah?
The Dodgers. Okay, you spent all that money, you got Otani,
you had a great season not getting out of the
d Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, no, good, right, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I'm gonna go off the board here with college football,
the Tennessee Valls. They lost one last week. They should
have won. Everyone was on their bandwagon in September. They're
four and one, they're favored by fourteen and a half
versus Florida. You need a nice clean win to make
people ignore last week.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
And then I think they have Alabama the following week.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Tennessee Alabama, That's correct. The mm W got W for
me is the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals must win. Can
we bring in Dylan? I would say, our gambling expert.
He's not an expert, but he does gamble.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So actually I think I've been Jami listening into ball
these days and me. But I mean that's okay though.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
All right, So Dylan, who's part of the Dan Patrick
takes a gamble podcast with bad Larry Shane Irvin. I
think Seaton does a better Dylan impersonation than Dylan does.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hi Dylan, Hi Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, hey fellas, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
I would agree with that. I think Seton has you
could say, mastered that one.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's like the like when he sits down, he's like,
oh hey, Dan, how you doing? And then the more
that he talked, and then it just kind of settled
into this.
Speaker 10 (38:11):
The fans seem to like it. To half of the
stuff we get on social media is like, I love
Seatans Dylan in personally.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I mean, yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I guess yeah, yeah, I don't like Dylan, but I
like Seaton's impersonation of Dylan. All Right, you got a
couple of the best bets.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Iowa and Washington under forty one and a half. Big
shocker there. Okay, they're back hit the under last week,
so we are wheels are in motion again, okay. And
I've got Ole Miss minus three and a half at
LSU Night Game and Death Valley.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
This one's.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
That one scares me, man.
Speaker 10 (38:46):
It scares me so much that I'm liking it more.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Of course, Dylan's logic on the gambling podcast is illogical,
you know, and he takes great pride in that.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
I've been burned by logic way too many times.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
What else do you have?
Speaker 10 (39:01):
So those are my two for college and then for
the NFL. As we talked about on the Gambling podcast,
I'm taking all of the biggest underdogs against the spread.
That trend has been working out pretty well this season.
So I do like the Commanders plus six and a
half against my Ravens. I think Ravens in a favorite
spot that big rarely pays off well. And I do
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like those Browns plus nine and a half against the
Eagles with a little sprinkling on Brown's money line.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh okay, yep.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
Those are two teams that you could say are in shambles,
so race to the bottom.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I don't think the Eagles are in shambles.
Speaker 10 (39:38):
Relative to their potential coming into this season and people's opinion.
And I think they're they're pretty low on the tone.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Oh whole analyst work. Yeah, and uh, I think you
should let the audience know how successful you've been this year.
Speaker 10 (39:53):
Oh yeah, so I'm down eleven units.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
That's not good.
Speaker 10 (39:57):
No, But I like to start slow, Dan and then
pick things up.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, you're like the Bengals.
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Yeah the first half of the season.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yah, all right, that's Dylan the graphics guy. That's Dylan
the graphics guy. It's yeah, makes y yeah. Final hour
in fact, coming up in ten minutes. Todd Blackledge will
be on the call for Ohio State in Oregon that's
made the Ravens running back. Derrick Henry will stop by
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as well. Two hours in the books on this Meet Friday,
the Minister of Humor, Seaton O'Connor, Marvin the Prince Polyester
with a pea bomb in yours truly final hour on
the way
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio hour two on this Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's a meat Friday at that and yes, there will
be another pea bomb coming up. Pauli week in and
week out shocking the college football world with upsets. Here,
what will it be today? You'll have to wait and see.
It's a meat Friday, smash burgers, pigs in a blanket,
fries and I think there's an apple pie out there too.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
No body.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Start of the Day brought to you by Penni America,
the official Trading Cards. The Dan Patrick Show Pole question
for hour two is going to be once Seaton O'Connor.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We got many up there for our one, Dan, why
don't we run down those results? A bigger game this
weekend for the Cowboys or the Lions. Right now, seventy
three percent say the Cowboys. This is interesting to me.
Biggest win last night Guardians, Lynx, Niners, Yankees. Right now
the Guardians have about thirty six percent of that, followed
(01:04):
by the Yankees Niners in the links not really getting
a ton of love there. And then it is advancing
from the Alds to the Alcs champagne worthy right now.
Sixty six percent say no. That means thirty three percent
say yes, actually wants thirty four percent.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm in that thirty four percent. Yeah, I'm okay with celebrating.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't want to celebrate. I don't I don't want
to celebrate like we won the World Series.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Should we cut down the nets after the first round
of the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, they would discourage that because there are other games than.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Wait, why are we playing with the Rims that don't
have nets on advancing out of Dayton gets Yeah, the
first four. Well you cut down the nets after you win, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Actually, they do cut down the nets at different stages
of the NCAA tournament. You don't see it on TV,
but if you attend like a sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Sixteen game, well, regional final.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, So that's similar to this stage of the baseball playoffs,
like if you get if you advanced to the Sweet sixteen,
you win your first two, I've seen teams cut them down,
but there's no one around to televise it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But then after the Sweet sixteen you have the Elite
eight of the final four, you have the thing Okay,
I don't know that. I don't know. Why are you
a buzzkill? Though? What's wrong with celebrating? There's nothing wrong
with celebrating, having some fun appropriate things to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
All right, Okay, who is against champagne dreams after winning
the divisional Series?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh? Everybody on the other side.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
There's different types of celebration.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
I think the champagne part of it that's more for
we won the pennant than go.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, when I see the goggles, then maybe that's a
step too far. Yes, okay, that was last night, but
they were still celebrating with champagne. Not everybody had goggles on.
But I would like to tamp that down a little bit.
No goggles then I'd be fine with that. But it's
like us, We're never going to win a Sports Emmy,
(03:06):
So I say, why not celebrate the nomination? And then
you guys don't want to celebrate the nomination, And I said,
why don't we just get champagne and spray it all
over one another? And we did that one time. I
think we had champagne when we lost the Sports Emmy.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, we didn't win the Sports Emmy.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You don't lose if you're in the you know, in
the running for a Sports Emmy. But we should celebrate
all of those years we got nominated. We never celebrated,
did we? Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
No, I could remember the first one we got nominated.
I think I think we're in Houston and we heard
about it in the midday after the show and we
all went out to a dinner. And remember that rainstorm
that hit in the middle of our dinner when we
were sitting outside in Houston and we were with all
our DIRECTORV crew. We were celebrating that night. Okay, that
was our first nomination. Okay, and there was a big rainstorm.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But we haven't celebrated since. No, Yes, Tod, I don't.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Want to be a downer, but I guess you kind
of do lose the Sports Emmy or anything. Where as
a winner, everyone else would be a loser. You could
be a nominee for an Academy Award, but ultimately one
box has the person smiling and the rest of them,
you know, pretend to clap for them and act like
they're happy that somebody won. If you have a winner,
then there's got to be a loser.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I feel like we win by being nominated.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That's a healthy attitude.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yes, and that's the way you should look at it.
Took ye.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now you know what the problem is is that people
are like, well, you guys got like a dozen already anyway,
I know, Like, no, we don't. We don't have any.
You've never won any like, No, that's why I want
to win one.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, we're not going to.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
We had a run of like I don't know, five
years or so where we probably should have gotten one. Yeah,
and then we didn't get it. In that win though,
I don't think we're winning it. I think Pete are either.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Pete Rose has a better chance getting into the Hall
of Fame than we do winning a Sports Emmy.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Wow, that's a statement.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
RG.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, what happens first we win a Sports Emmy or
Pete gets on the ballot.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
For the Hall of Fame. I think Pete's.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, because the novelty of this show is over. Yeah,
you know they're like, oh, look at that. They're going
up against Sports Center, Baseball tonight and like all these
big shows, College Game Day and they go where can
you hear that? Or I didn't know he was still
doing broadcasting. He's still doing a show. How old is he?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes? Tom?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What about that twenty twenty seven Lifetime Achievement kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I don't want one of those.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Months before you get it, I will not accept well
accept No, I don't want a lifetime Achievement award.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I don't call it that.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
You just all of a sudden, we happen to win
the Sports Time in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't want it. I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
You'll think it's because if we won, that it's because
you're leaving seven months later.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yes, and I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I'm just letting the academy know I don't want that,
not that they were going to give it to me.
But we win. If I win, we win. When we win,
I win.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It'd be cool though if like if like like we
won though, yeah, I know when you win, like, yeah,
look we all won. But it'd be cool if there
was one where it was like, hey, look, you guys
all won.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
There'd be nothing better than if the show won with
all the I mean, we only have twelve people in
this show.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's you got twelve people at ESPN who you know
work in the cafeteria, the checkout line. I mean, we
don't have many people. And that's why I would take great,
great pride in that that we as a group we
took on the giants and we won.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of times where it's like, hey,
Dan Patrick won this, and it's like, oh, yeah, you
guys too.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's kind of how it is.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, no, but it would be awesome if the Dan Patrick
Show and everyone under that Animal Kingdom umbrella also is included.
I agree, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So this show ends in three years and four months,
that will be eligible for the next Emmy, the one
three months after that. They could nominate us or not nominated.
If we get nominated and go, we wear goggles and
bring champagne to that last Emmy Awards. Goggles and champagne,
all right, because it would be a great bit whether
we won or lost.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We see, we'd make a mess up there.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
And then we're gone, we're out.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You'd have Melissa Stark out there handing out an award
and maybe she'd you know, slip on the champagne. Don't
want that, No, we don't want that. Don't want anything
happening there. Ernie Johnson wins another one. He comes out
and he's like, you know, trudging through.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Puddles, maybe as a presenter if.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
He slipped, that would be okay.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah, bonus coverage.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Did you see jose Canseco tweeted, he hates a RB.
It's like, I hope everyone in Florida except one person
is okay. Wow. If we did.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
A poll question more likable Knseko or a Rod, I think.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It might be tight. I'm gonna take Kenseko.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I think he's winning the poll because.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
He's not in the spotlight. It's just all right. That
guy's wild. He hates a rob. I hope everybody's okay
in Florida except for one guy.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Dang, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Alrighty, welcome already in progress here, good morning. If you're
watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around the country.
I don't know if we can top what we did
in the first hour because we touched on a lot
of things, including Fritzie's physique is similar to a bullfrog,
and a bullfrog is an animal. And Todd had a
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long night last night.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Significant dinner, yes, very heavy dinner.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, But at no point did you go, you know what,
maybe I don't need to have all of this for
my birthday.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I didn't really think about that.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
It was dessert time when when she said, would you
like to see a dessert menu? And I immediately say, yeah,
I'll take a look and take a peek and see
what you.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Got after you'd had steak mac and cheese.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Lapto mac and cheese calamario, at least three rolls with
like a little pumpkin butter kind of thing on it,
and uh a big baked potato with all the fixens.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go, carrot cake.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I think, oh my gosh, vegetables and yeah, all the
food groups that Todd loves.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Cake and I got a three in the morning wick.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Up, Yeah, Todd things, carrot cake is vegetables.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I did kind of count that as like something that's
of course somewhat course got the word carroten winner, all.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, thank you, Tom. I just feel like the healthier
of the cakes, got it. Man. I've fallen to that too,
where I'm like, it's not that bad.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Because one said molten lava cake, one said brownie cookie thing,
and they said carrot cake.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
All right, that's not bad.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Let's be responsible. We'll have some carrot cake.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You're not going to get the fruit platter or whatever
that thing, if they give your cantle open to whatever
coming up.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Mike Floria from Pro Football Talk will join us and
the Most must Win Game of the Weekend or the
mm W g O t W, speaking of which Tom
in North Carolina. Hi Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (09:54):
DP, you got two quick things. So my most must
win is the Eagles, and that's probably going to be
the same the whole year. I think they're gonna be
maybe in the same situation as the Jets. They may
be touching on that with Mike Florio later, But also
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I was going to talk about North Carolina's favorite son,
Drake May starting this weekend, and also Spencer Rattler. The
Saints went from two point favorites to two and a
half point underdogs when that announcement was made, and then
when they announced Drake May was going to be starting,
the line didn't move at all, And I was wondering
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about your opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I didn't notice.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's the Texans are favored by six and a half
over the Patriots, and let's see the Saints they are
getting three and a half against the Buccaneers. Yeah, Spencer
Rattler can make some plays. He just doesn't make enough
of them. He's not consistent enough. But the Saints against
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the Buccaneers and then Drake May against Houston against that
front four. I was kind of surprised at then.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
The question is when you throw Drake May in like it,
you're just you're putting him in the uh the washing machine,
and like, uh, hey, go in there and see what
you can come out with, and uh, it's probably gonna
feel like that. You're just going to be in the
spin cycle there and you're like, whoa, And Houston's good?
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New England is I mean, New England could have won
the game against Miami, probably should have won the game
against Miami. But I think they're probably to the let's
all right, let's see what he can show. But because
you're also looking around the NFL and you're going, all right, well,
Bo Nicks is winning games, Jayden Daniels might be an
MVP candidate here, Caleb Williams coming off his best performance.
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I don't know, Let's throw our guy in there a
little bit. Let's see the problem is the Bears are
a better team, the Commanders are a better team, and
Denver's a better team than New England and Drake May
is going to feel that Mac Jones feeling of damn,
I feel all alone out here with this offense.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Let me see Dan in Virginia. Hi, Dan, what's on
your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Dan Colin to talk about the origins of the pea
bomb word? Okay, when I was in high school, I
worked for the county painting schools. But the guys that
ran the mowers the mode the highways would call pea
bombs gatorade bottles that people would throw out of their cars.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh oh wow. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I used to work for the city in my hometown,
and I used to drive one of those mowing tractors
all over the city, so I would be cutting grass
out in large swaths of fields.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Good money.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah. And I had a friend who lived, I don't know,
a couple of miles away from you know where the
building was that we had to drive the tractor from.
And I'd show up in his backyard and I say,
care if I sleep for in a while, So occasionally
I'd go in and fall asleep on his couch while
I was supposed to be mowing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh the great good old days.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Statue limitation.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, that is that is true. But I was in
between schools at the time. I had just transferred and
I needed some money, and I was in the portal.
Nobody knew I was in the portal. Todd was in
the portal partty last night.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I was several times that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Portal potty. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
By the way, if there's one piece of a life
advice you want to give about using a porta potty
at like a tailgate or a football game, never look down,
look forward or up. Never ever look down. Do your
whatever you got to do in that porta potty with
your periphile vision.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't know why they don't include something that's universal
in all of those that you can look at. Maybe
it's a mirror, or maybe it's you know, like a
football schedule for each school that you're going to upcoming.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Schedule and you but.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Man, eyes up, yep, eyes up, And just.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
If you're looking for where to do your stuff, just
use your perifle vision. There's nothing good south on the border.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
M Yes, Tom.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I don't like when someone taps on the door. Almost
done in there. You know, we've got some people. I
got a long line out here.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's always a little frustrating. When you feel like you're
on the clock.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, how do you think they feel following you?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That is a whole other problem. But I don't like
feeling rush plants.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Fritzy.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, he's going to be in there for a while.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes see. I told you guys this one time. I
was at Olive Garden and uh, they had like a
bath room. It was like right in like the by
the front door, and for some reason that the place
is packed. There was like people waiting in line. There
was like a dozen people waiting by the front door
of your family couches and stuff. And I was sitting
at the table and I got the uh, the gurgle,
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the rumble, if you will, and I was like, oh,
I gotta go. I got up and went and it.
I just unleashed holy hell in that bathroom, so much
so that I was laughing myself, which actually only made
it worse. And there were people going in and out,
and a guy definitely went in and was like Jesus
and uh, and it was just unbelievable what happened in there.
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And then I had to walk out and all of
the people were waiting. I am positive everybody heard what
was happening. I'm also positive, and nobody was interested in
eating after that. It was horrible. Absolutely, it was so bad.
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I was even cracking up, which was just making everything.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh my god, that's crazy. I was.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was at a sporting event. I'm not going to
give great details on this, but a famous actress went
into a bathroom and it was a universal bathroom and
came out and she had detonated the bathroom. And every
time I see her, not in person, every time I see.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Her, I just think, oh my god, poor thing.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Last show.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
We're going to guess it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, probably, I mean, and I'm not. I'm not even
going to tell you the event I was at.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But US Open. No, you were watching a tennis match. Oh,
gonna take tennis.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
It's going to take a break. Here, more phone calls
coming up inside, and we like knows we are back
after this.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
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Speaker 2 (17:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:43):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
The most must win game of the weekend is which
game in the NFL?
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Well, I would have said last night's game. The forty
nine ers desperately needed to avoid going oh and three
in their division, and they even were desperately needed to
avoid blowing another lead to a division rival. But now
that that one's over, it's got to be the Bengals
on Sunday Night. And I'm not saying that so I
get my check this week from NBC. But the Bengals
are desperate at one in four, and yeah, they start
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slowly every year, but the slow start has continued. They
fall to five losses, and Dan, I don't know that
there's a magic number of losses that disqualify you from
the playoffs. With seven spots per conference and seventeen games,
nine to eight I would think is the absolute minimum
to get in. They're already halfway to eight losses through
five games. They need this one on Sunday Night.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
What teams do you feel great about? Here we are
mid October. Could you put I feel great about this
team or teams?
Speaker 9 (18:44):
No? No, because the teams that I think are the
best don't have the best records. I think the forty
nine Ers and Ravens are the best teams I've seen
so far, but they have flaws. And the forty nine
Ers are what three and two? Three and three, and
the Ravens are three and two. So the Vikings are
a flawed five and oh, the Chiefs are a flawed five.
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And oh, I guess I feel good about the Chiefs
because we know they get better as the season goes on.
And these wins now are just money in the bank
that will make it easier for them to force playoff
games to come to Kansas City. But we know they
can go on the road and win in the playoffs. Two.
So I guess the Chiefs just because they're so damn resilient,
their defense is great, and their offense will improve and
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play well when it has to.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We saw Robert Sala relieved of his duties. Will we
have a coach another coach fired during the season In
your opinion, well.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Probably just because somebody's gonna lose these games, and if
you hit enough of a rough stretch, that's that. If
the Jaguars get embarrassed both games in London, they play
the Bears and then the Patriots. Doug Peterson's win this
past weekend over the Colts might not matter. It felt
like he was getting closer and closer to the end
because the owner made it pretty clear before the season,
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this is the most talented Jaguars team ever. He's wrong,
But when the owner thinks it, it doesn't matter if
he's wrong. He's the guy who's making the decision on
whether or not the coaching staff's getting it done with
the most talented team. So I still keep an eye
on the Jaguars. But what we learned on Tuesday, Dan,
it can happen to anyone. I would have never dreamed
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that it was going to happen to Robert Sala on Tuesday,
six days before they play a game that if they win,
it their time for first place in the division. A
defensive expert whose defense is great, an offense that is
off the rails, and it's his fault and he's the
one who's got to go. I was stunned that it happened,
and I wouldn't have picked it if I was ranking
who's most likely to get fired on Tuesday. I don't
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know that it would have been in the bottom half,
but it wouldn't have been in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, I said at the start of the year, Robert
sala is either going to be coach of the Year
or fired. And I don't think he was the right
person for the job. He's a defensive coordinator. Not every
coordinator deserves to be a head coach. But he did
do a good job with what he was told to
be a do a good job with their defense. The
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offense is on Aaron Rodgers. I mean, now, he did
take blame yesterday. He said, yeah, if I play better,
Robert Slick keeps his job. Now, moving forward, what do
you expect out of the Jets?
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Well, the question is now that Todd Downing is taking
over as essentially offensive coordinator, with Nathaniel Hackett taking a
back seat, how much will that limit the things that
Rogers does at the line of scrimmage. He likes to
have the freedom to change plays if he wants who
He cites his extensive experience, and there's an argument to
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be made that at some point you got to defer
to what this guy has seen, what this guy has done.
I don't know how much better it's going to be.
I don't know how much philosophically it's going to change.
I don't know how well Aaron Rodgers and Todd Downing
get along or don't get along. All I know is
Aaron Rodgers isn't the guy that he was a few
years ago. He looked disinterested at times in the first
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half on Sunday. Rodney Harrison's interpretation is that's how a
guy looks when he can no longer do what he
used to do and he's coming to terms with it. Now.
The arm is still there, but the legs go first.
And if you're Tom Brady and the legs never mattered anyway,
you go into you're forty five, if you're Aaron Rodgers
and you made your living by getting out of trouble,
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and all of a sudden you can't. I think that's
where we see that frustration starting to come out.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I have mentioned this, this isn't an attractive job.
And I know we love to throw out Mike Rabel
and Bill Belichick. I would run from this opportunity, not
to absolutely because and I never thought I would say this.
The reason why it's one of the reasons why it's
not attractive is because of Aaron Rodgers. I don't know
how long he stays, and I would take over that
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job if Aaron Rodgers decided to retire, then it becomes
a little more attractive. You got a really good defense,
you got some younger offensive players, you still have that
ownership there. I don't know what you do at the GM,
but Belichick's not going there. Is Rabel going to go there?
Or Ben Johnson or the Lion's gonna go there? I
just doesn't It doesn't feel attractive.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
We talked about this earlier in the week on PFT Live.
I'm a firm believer that anyone who has options is
not going to want to go there. I don't think
Rogers will be back if they don't make the playoffs,
and even if they do, I'm not sure he's going
to want to put himself through it again with or
without Rogers. Though the owner is the one constant is
Jed York of the forty nine Ers said seven or
eight years ago, you can't fire the owner, and the
thread for the Jets and Jets fans get mad about
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this because there's nothing they can do about it. They're
stuck with Woody Johnson until he sells the team or
otherwise naturally ends his tenure as the owner of the team.
So you can't do anything about it. You can't deprive
yourself the thing you love. The only way to force
a guy to sell would be to boycott. So thoroughly
there losing money, and the only thing we can do
is sell the team. That's ever going to happen. People
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love the Jets, they want to go to the games,
they want to follow the team. So I look at
a guy like Steve Spagnolo, who might not have an
option anywhere else, bring him back to New York. He
was great with the Giants. We've been saying he deserves
another opportunity. If no one else is going to give
it to him, why not get it with the Jets?
Or like a Ryan Grubb, you know Dave Canalis last year,
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one year's offensive coordinator the Panthers, or Bucks goes to
the Panthers. Who else was taking the Panthers job? Ryan Grubb,
great job with Gino Smith goes to the Jets, because
who else is going to take the Jets job.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host,
I saw where you were mixing it up a little
bit with the New York media in their coverage of
Aaron Rodgers. What were you bothered about by how they
were covering Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Well, I wasn't mixing it up with them. They chose
to mix it up with me rather than address it
on the merits with on ad Hominem attacks and other things.
And I don't care about that anymore. I'm too old
and I met the I call it the NFG phase
of my career. No f's given where it's not worth it.
Life's too short to get into these stupid fights. Dan,
I've learned a lot from working with you and listening
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to you and watching you over the years. You're one
of the best interviewers ever. You know how to ask
questions in a way that doesn't piss people off, but
it gets to the heart of the matter. And I
was just disappointed yesterday by the press conference of Aaron Rodgers.
All that had to be asked if Aaron Rodgers, with
one very simple question seven words, did Robert Sola deserve
to be fired? The answer to that would have been
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incredibly revealing, because so much time has been spent this
week with Rogers kind of puffing his chest out. I
resent any suggestion that I caused this, Okay, fine, but
you could have stopped it. You could have prevented it.
And I think that's what we need to drill down on.
Did you have a chance to prevent it? And if
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you didn't, man, that's a hell of a story too.
So that's what bothered me. It was a golden opportunity
to ask him questions, not belligerent, not rifled with animosity,
just simple questions like you do that get right to
the heart of the matter. And they whift. They just whiffed.
And if they're mad about it, show some of that
to Aaron Rodgers. Don't direct it at me. Redirect it
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back to Rodgers the next time you can ask him questions.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Is there a franchise in worse shape than Cleveland?
Speaker 9 (26:23):
No, because they are not stuck with a contract it
requires ninety two million dollars to be paid in twenty
twenty five and twenty twenty six combined. The Browns are
in one of the worst situations of the salary cap era,
and it's clearly the worst trade and sign that we've
seen in the salary cap era. You can say the
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herschel Walker trade was worse, but this is a combination
of three first round picks, three other picks, and two
hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed for a guy that
was facing a suspension and a guy who hadn't played
at all in twenty twenty one. And now here we
are in the third year. They're not getting a return
and they're in a damn thing they can do. They
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have to pay him, they don't have to play him.
And at this point, Dan, I would trade off assets.
I would get extra draft picks, I would bench him,
and I would go young because the young guys are
cheap enough. You can carry the ninety two million and
pay that money and fill out your roster with young,
cheap players. That's what I would do if I was
the Browns and you.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Look back on this trade and you would have thought that,
you know, the Texans would have been saying, hey, please
take him. We'll give you this and this and this.
They got draft picks, they got first round picks. This
guy was damaged goods, and that's they didn't get a bargain.
This is where you get a bargain. You go, hey,
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let's take a chance on this guy. You know, he's
got a shady past here, Bud, he's shown glimpses. You know, hey,
well we'll take him off your hands. You got to
pay part of his salary. You got to throw in
a draft pick or two, like that's what you would think.
But the fact that the Browns gave him a deal
he couldn't refuse and gave them those draft picks and
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they that's helped the Texans become a playoff team.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Amazing, amazing, moved by Nick Cassero, the gym of the team, Dan,
I remember when it was happening. The Texans created a competition,
even though it was March, months away from an actual game,
they were able to set up a four team basically
chase for Deshaun Watson. And in the offseason that's when
teams try to spend or otherwise maneuver their way to relevance.
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And so you had the Saints, the Panthers, the Falcons,
and the Browns. And the Browns were the first team
that got tapped on the shoulder at the dance contest.
And what did they do? What did they do? They said,
let's make this guy an offer he can't refuse and boom,
there it was. And the other thing Casceo did it
was brilliant Dan, You basically got preapproved for the loan.
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You couldn't even talk to Watson unless you put on
the table a trade package the casser would have accepted.
And it was great, it was brilliant. Four teams show up,
Browns get thrown overboard, Browns come back with this ridiculous offer,
and now they're stuck with the aftermath of it.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
All quiet on the two afront any updates.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
Well, everything's pointing toward him coming back week eight, when
he's able to return from injured reserve. What we saw
this week with Josh Allen, I think brings into focus
the balance between the boxes that are checked to put
a player back on the field after an actual or
suspected head injury brain injury to be more accurate, and
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healthcare an endgame when somebody's possibly suffered a brain injury.
I think a lot of times we see that urgency
to check the boxes and get the guy back on
the field rather than engaging in actual healthcare. And I
say that because with the urgency that we're feeling now
with the Dolphins all they need toolback so badly, everything's
pointing that direction. He's on the sidelines for the games.
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I thought we would have the conversation after the season
as to whether or not he'd continue. I don't know
if it's in his best interest to jump back into it,
because this wasn't some fluke injury. This is like in
the top three of the things that can happen to
a quarterback. This isn't what happened to Tamorrow Hamlin one
in a billion. This is something that happens all the time,
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and it's happened repeatedly to Tuam with the fencing posture
on top of it. I'm very concerned about Tua. I
know it's his right, it's his right, the right to life.
Liberty in the pursuit of happiness includes the right to
screw up your life if you choose to do so,
and people take far greater risks for far less money.
I'm just concerned about him. If he was my son,
my brother, my cousin, I'd be I wouldn't be able
to watch a game. I wouldn't be able to function
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for those three hours worrying about him having another brain injury.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
The Josh Allen situation, the optics were terrible. I mean,
I now he I think set his ankle I mean,
I mean, I don't know if he grabbed his ankle,
but it's like Tua had another concussion where he said
it was his back.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
They're going to find the nature of it.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
That's the thing. These guys want to play willing. Joe
Burrow said after the two stuff was going on a
couple of years ago. This is what we signed up for.
That's why it's all the more important. If you're going
to create this many little healthcare apparatus that assesses a
guy for a concussion during a game, it can't be
you know, the urgency that we saw last Thursday night,
when the Falcons are rushing to the line of scrimmage
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and spiking the ball and the officials are helping, it's like,
we got to check them. We got to get the
guy back in and see the league. Even though the
doctor that makes the final call is unaffiliated from the team,
the league wants the best players on the field. When
Derek Carr left on Monday night, Jake Haner came in
just turn off the damn game. If Mitch Rubisky had
stayed in on Sunday and Allen had been ruled out,
turn off the damn game. The league doesn't want that,
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so they've got Even though the doctors are disconnected from
the team, there's still a conflict of interest there where
we want these guys on the field and they want
to go on the field. That's the problem. Who's the
voice of reason that says, hang on, hang on, you
shouldn't go out and we're not letting you go out
on the field.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But do you see these guardians helmets actually being mandatory.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Well, the NFL says that the guardian cap is less
effective than the position specific helmets that they've now developed.
I responded to that by saying, well, if you put
a guardian cap on those helmets, they would be even safer.
I think the NFL is very concerned about the aesthetics
because it's such a visual sport. TV is what made
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football what it is, and when you see a guy,
it looks like a lumpy beanbag chair that needs to
be you know, like re sculpted. There was a guy
last night and it stands out got for the forty
nine ers had that big thing and fans don't want
to see that. I think it's incumbent on the league
to keep improving the helmet technology so it gets to
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the point where guardian caps are irrelevant. But at the
same time, no matter how good that helmet is, if
you put a guardian cap on it, it's going to
be even safer.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Have a great weekend, Mike. Thanks for joining Pro Football
Talk Live, co host and contributor to Football Night in America.
When we come back, the mm W g O t
W and Dylan stops by with some gambling advice.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
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Speaker 2 (33:24):
Alright, let's run down the list of great games this weekend.
Commanders at the Ravens Markey game, Yes, it is big time.
This is where we find out are the Commanders really
the Commanders? Lions at the Cowboys O Markey game? How
about that? Of course, we remember last year came down
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to the wire. Remember it came down to this, the
Dan Skipper not reporting as eligible.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes, the Dan Skipper not reporting his eligible.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Game, the jersey wipe thing, Dan Skipper, but he.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Went over to the officials and they kind of did it,
but then didn't and then he wasn't. Yes, that was
a big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
This game features the largest over undertotal of the weekend
at fifty two and a half. College football, Ohio State
at Oregon Massive. Yeah Yeah. Ducks have reeled off wins
over Michigan State, Oregon State, and UCLA. This will be
This will be as talented as any team they will
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face this year. And of course Jeremiah Smith the star
wide receiver for the buck Geys. Texas at Oklahoma. It's
the Red River rivalry. Texas has won all five of
its game so far and they have blown everybody out.
Quinn Yours he has not played since the second week
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in September. They didn't miss him with arch Manning in there.
And then you have the Tigers at the Guardians. That'll
be carry Scouble will be on the mound, the cy
young winner in the American League, and he's as the
kids like to say, he's filthy. He has some great
stuff there. You also have the Podres and the Dodgers
(35:19):
coming up tonight. So the what would be the most
must win game of the weekend?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
The most must win game?
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Yes, Todd, I am going to go with one of
our calls earlier, Tom in North Carolina, who says it's
a must must win for the Eagles at home against
the lowly Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It feels like the Cleveland Browns are going to pull
off a win at some point where you go wow,
that they will actually be who we thought maybe they
were going to be started the season.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Pea bombs.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, that's not a pea bob. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't have a pea bomb. It felt pea bombs.
PAULI has it. The Browns will beat the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's a P bomb. If it's actually a P two
BOMBA bomb.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Okay, a Seaton Most must win game of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I feel like it's kind of a most must win
game for Ohio State and Oregon, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
H You can have two losses, You could have two
dog Yeah, I think so. Two losses can still make
the plans.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
It feels like two losses is acceptable for some teams
and not others.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Though, yes, Alabama could have two losses. Ole Miss cannot.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Ohio State can have two losses. I don't know if
Oregon can. Can. They it's getting a.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Little late in the season to have two losses.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
A little late, a little late in the season.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Two losses, Yeah, to start two Marvin.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
The mmwg ot W quick question, is this for all sports? Yeah?
The Dodgers. Okay, you spent all that money, you got Otani,
you had a great season not getting out of the
d Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, no, good, right, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I'm gonna go off the board here with college football,
the Tennessee Valls. They lost one last week. They should
have won. Everyone was on their bandwagon in September. They're
four and one, they're favored by fourteen and a half
versus Florida. You need a nice clean win to make
people ignore last week.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
And then I think they have Alabama the following week.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Tennessee Alabama, That's correct. The mm W got W for
me is the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals must win. Can
we bring in Dylan? I would say, our gambling expert.
He's not an expert, but he does gamble.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So actually I think I've been Jami listening into ball
these days and me. But I mean that's okay though.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
All right, So Dylan, who's part of the Dan Patrick
takes a gamble podcast with bad Larry Shane Irvin. I
think Seaton does a better Dylan impersonation than Dylan does.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hi Dylan, Hi Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, hey fellas, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
I would agree with that. I think Seton has you
could say, mastered that one.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's like the like when he sits down, he's like,
oh hey, Dan, how you doing? And then the more
that he talked, and then it just kind of settled
into this.
Speaker 10 (38:11):
The fans seem to like it. To half of the
stuff we get on social media is like, I love
Seatans Dylan in personally.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I mean, yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I guess yeah, yeah, I don't like Dylan, but I
like Seaton's impersonation of Dylan. All Right, you got a
couple of the best bets.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Iowa and Washington under forty one and a half. Big
shocker there. Okay, they're back hit the under last week,
so we are wheels are in motion again, okay. And
I've got Ole Miss minus three and a half at
LSU Night Game and Death Valley.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
This one's.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
That one scares me, man.
Speaker 10 (38:46):
It scares me so much that I'm liking it more.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Of course, Dylan's logic on the gambling podcast is illogical,
you know, and he takes great pride in that.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
I've been burned by logic way too many times.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
What else do you have?
Speaker 10 (39:01):
So those are my two for college and then for
the NFL. As we talked about on the Gambling podcast,
I'm taking all of the biggest underdogs against the spread.
That trend has been working out pretty well this season.
So I do like the Commanders plus six and a
half against my Ravens. I think Ravens in a favorite
spot that big rarely pays off well. And I do
(39:23):
like those Browns plus nine and a half against the
Eagles with a little sprinkling on Brown's money line.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh okay, yep.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
Those are two teams that you could say are in shambles,
so race to the bottom.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I don't think the Eagles are in shambles.
Speaker 10 (39:38):
Relative to their potential coming into this season and people's opinion.
And I think they're they're pretty low on the tone.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Oh whole analyst work. Yeah, and uh, I think you
should let the audience know how successful you've been this year.
Speaker 10 (39:53):
Oh yeah, so I'm down eleven units.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
That's not good.
Speaker 10 (39:57):
No, But I like to start slow, Dan and then
pick things up.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, you're like the Bengals.
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Yeah the first half of the season.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yah, all right, that's Dylan the graphics guy. That's Dylan
the graphics guy. It's yeah, makes y yeah. Final hour
in fact, coming up in ten minutes. Todd Blackledge will
be on the call for Ohio State in Oregon that's
made the Ravens running back. Derrick Henry will stop by
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as well. Two hours in the books on this Meet Friday,
the Minister of Humor, Seaton O'Connor, Marvin the Prince Polyester
with a pea bomb in yours truly final hour on
the way
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