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October 15, 2024 40 mins

Dan Patrick reacts to Jerry Jones getting fiery with Dallas radio hosts and explains the reason for the fair criticism of Jerry this season. Dan Lanning confirms Dan's theories about his late strategy versus Ohio State. Plus, Dan examines the transformation of athlete brands from on-court to off-court.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday. We had a
trade earlier today.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
DeVante Adams is going to the Jets third round pick,
a conditional that could be a second round pick depending
on his performance.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Just starting the week and already got some drama there
with the Jets. They lose, They fire their coach last week,
they demote their offensive coordinator and they still lose. Should
have won the game, but give credit to Buffalo and
Josh Allen. Josh Allen has truly been an MVP candidate
this year. Like legit, it felt like felt like the

(00:47):
media wanted Josh Allen to be an MVP candidate for years.
He truly is one now. Now he's always been a
great player, but he's played really well this year. Now,
if you're looking for m VP candidates, which we probably
always are, I guess you have to start with Lamar
Jackson with what he's done. Jayden Daniels has been wonderful.

(01:08):
Derrick Henry, Now, you're not going to have a running
back when MVP unless he rushes for two thousand yards,
then you probably have to give it to him. I
was wondering about that if you're looking for MVP candidates.
Patrick mahomes Is, I think six touchdowns, six picks. I
mean he's been kind of generic. Jordan Love has been good.

(01:30):
Anybody else come to mind. Brock Perty has played well.
The team hasn't played well, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Just because it's a great story and new Derrick Henry, Yeah,
i'd say, But I mean, like, do you think people
won't give it to him because he's a running back?
He can't even get it?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, So I just said it nless he rushes for
two thousand yards.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, but I had the feeling that Lamar Jackson splits
the vote.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, maybe, but then he won it last year and
then do anything in the playoffs. I don't know if
voters go, We're not going to go down that road again.
But I think Derick Henry has been the most valuable
person on that team. But Lamar Jackson's going to get
the attention. Sunday night, it's a showdown in Pittsburgh that
just got a little more intriguing. It's Aaron Rodgers and
Devonte Adams facing TJ. Watt and the Steelers. That'll be

(02:21):
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the Dan Patrick Show. Oregon head coach Dan Lanning's going
to be on the show tomorrow, And I brought this

(02:41):
up yesterday because I think Oregon did this on purpose
where they put the twelfth man on the field the
second to last play with Ohio State, knowing that it
would cost them only five yards, wouldn't put Ohio State
in field goal range, And as it turned out, Ohio
State didn't get a time out called and Dan Lanning,

(03:02):
the Oregon head coach, was asked about the twelfth man
on the field.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Much of the commentary world has decided and struck you
as a genius stand for the twelve man penalty and
declared that it was intentional. Was it indeed intentional to
induce to throw one on one against the bar in
that spot?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
He wasn't one on one. We actually had a safety
on top, so there was a So it's called dog
it's when you play but He wasn't an extremely tight coverage,
but he was in dog coverage where he had safety
on top of him. And yeah, there was a time
out before that. We spend an order amount of time
on situations. There are some situations that don't show up
very often in college football, but this is one that

(03:39):
obviously was something that we have worked on.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
So you could see the result.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, yeah, I said he did this on purpose and
it made sense and he should take credit for it.
We were the first to bring that up that, Hey,
you put him out there. Five yard penalty, doesn't put
him in field goal range. You take four seconds off
the clock. Now they don't have time. Quarterback scrambles doesn't
get down in time, Call a timeout and Oregon beat

(04:05):
to Ohio. Stick. He'll join us on the program tomorrow.
When you look at the Lions situation, I know Aiden
Hutchinson is out, probably for the rest of the season.
I would certainly give a call to the Raiders for
Max Crosby. I'd give a call to the Cleveland Browns
for Miles Garrett, but you lose him. Over the last
five years, there are two things in common teams that
win a Super Bowl. You have a good really good quarterback,

(04:28):
elite quarterback, and you have a pass rush. Now it
could be singular. It could be Chris Jones with Mahomes,
Aaron Donald, Von Miller, Matthew Stafford. The Buccaneers had Tom
Brady and they had a defensive line that was inside
the top ten in sacks in twenty twenty one. Detroit
doesn't have that luxury. Jared Goff very good quarterback, but

(04:51):
they don't have Hutchinson or Marcus Davenport. Right now, you
get high scoring offenses in the NFC with Green Bay,
San Francisco, Tampa, Washington. So the Lions' chances for an
NFC title have certainly taken a significant hit. Can you
get somebody? It was reported earlier this morning that Hassan Reddick,
the former Philadelphia Eagle who was traded to the Jets,

(05:14):
didn't sign, and now he brought in a new representative,
Drew Rosenhaus, who has been given permission by the Jets
to seek a trade. I don't know if Detroit reaches
out to him. I guess if you can't get the
other players that I mentioned, maybe you get Hassan Reddick
because he's not going back to the Jets. Apparently if
he's been given permission to go elsewhere. All right, we

(05:37):
got a new football game. We just had a football game,
but now we have another football game coming up. PAULI
explain the rules.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Now we have specific music, custom music just for this
football game. Marvin sounds familiar. I'm going to name a
team that's currently in first place and yell out when
you say this team will not make the playoffs or
not finishing first play. The a f C S Buffalo
Bills at four and two. Who thinks they will not
win the.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Division, not win the division or not win the division
or make the playoffs. I think they'll win the division. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
The tie of the Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers, both
at four and two.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Who thinks them will be out? I'm gonna say the
Steelers will be out.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
I would say the Steelers will be out. Steelers, Steelers.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's going a little slower than I expected. This game.
Not very radical. The Houston Texans at the AFC South
at five and one.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
I'm going they stay there.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Non threatening division. The FC East is kind of predictable.
The Kansadity Chiefs at five and.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh, I think they're still going to be there.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
The Washington Commanders at four and two, ramping up. You
got some softballs.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm gonna say they're going to be there.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
He goes at three and two Cowboys of three and three.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah, sticking, you're sticking.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sticker, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
I'm gonna say. No, Okay, Eagles are gonna get it
together and the Eagles are gonna somehow win that division.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Frizzy, let's go. Let's go the NFC North. The Minnesota
Vikings are five and oh do they win the division?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
No, no, After your no.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
You should say who will the Lions?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Lions lines? Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
The Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Bucks are both four
and two. One of them can't be win the division.
I looked it up.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
One of them has too, Yeah, one of them has to.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I checked that too. Who does win? Who does?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm gonna say the Falcons win.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
I'm taking the Bucks.

Speaker 9 (07:46):
I'm staying with the Magic City Miracles.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
They're staying. Okay.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
And lastly that San Francisco forty nine Ers and Seattle
Seahawks are both three and three. Anyone think the Niners
don't win the division?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
No?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
No, no, no, We'll revisit this name.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Okay, maybe it's a better game, and.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
How could it be better than that? How can it
be better than I guarantee it won't be better.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah. I saw where Jerry Jones was doing his weekly
radio show on a one oh five point three the
Fan to discuss the Cowboys season. I think I think
that's his normal pit stop that he shows up on.
And at one point during the show, Jerry got defensive

(08:29):
when the radio host asked Jerry a question about the
Cowboys offseason moves, and Jerry said, this is not your job.
Your job do we have this sound?

Speaker 9 (08:41):
Just got it in?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay? All right? And then here's here's Jerry snapping back
at the radio host.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
This is not your job. Your job is to let
me go over all the reasons that I did something
and I'm sorry that I did it. That's not your job.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, my job is asking.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
The job or I'll get another I'll get somebody else
to ask these questions.

Speaker 10 (09:01):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why
the team is.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. You're not going to
figure out it's what the team is doing right or wrong.
If you are are any five or ten like you?
You need to come to this meeting I'm going to today.
There are thirty two teams. Here are your geniuses?

Speaker 7 (09:22):
All right?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, he said, you think you're going to sit here
with a microphone and tell me all the things that
I've done wrong without going over the rights.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I'm curious that they were telling him or asking him.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
They're probably asking him about the off season moves. But look,
Jerry loves to go on these shows and talk, and
so I mean, I applaud the host. If you're asking questions,
that's what your job is. Instead, like Jerry just threatened
their jobs because they were doing their jobs. Like, how

(09:58):
dare you question me? I don't think they're questioning maybe
the totality of your ownership. They're talking about the off
season when you told everybody you were all in. They
did a terrible job in the off season. They weren't
all in, and they waited. They procrastinated on a couple
of those big deals and they probably could have gotten
Derrick Henry. And when we had Derrick Henry on the show,

(10:22):
he said, you know, he thought that the Cowboys were
going to reach out and they never did. And he's
from there, he'd love to go, he'd love to play
for the Cowboys, or would have. But I mean, if
you're going to have a show, at least tell us.
Are the host allowed to be professional or why don't
you just submit questions to them? Jaring if that's how

(10:45):
you want it to be. They're asking the questions that
Cowboy fans have and getting testing threatening their jobs. I'm
not kidding, Okay, all right, yeah, Paulin too bad?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
His team isn't more defense? Whoa okay, cyber truck line yesterday?
Follow up that blue bloo boo bloop.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
All right, Oh, Jerry, he just loves publicity, but he
you know, he wants the positive publicity. Well you're not
going to get that, not after you've been giving up
forty points at home getting blown down here. Let me
see Mike in Wisconsin. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (11:30):
Good morning?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Hellows A while back during the show, Hey interpreter gambling scandal.

Speaker 12 (11:35):
You guys discussed the best job in sports.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
While watching Bills and Jets last night, I kept thinking being.

Speaker 12 (11:43):
An NFL Rapids horrible.

Speaker 11 (11:44):
So I guess my question is to you guys, what's
the worst job in sports?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I would not want to be an official. I would
not want to be an umpire referee. Thank you for
the phone call, Mike. That to me is a thankless job.
We if if we don't know you, then you did
a good job. If we do know you, you did
a bad job. How many times have you set after
a game you know the officials did a good job.

(12:12):
How many times have you watched a baseball game? You go, man,
I don't played umpire and it was pretty good. I just
don't think now you get to be part of the action.
Maybe you're a failed baseball player, football player. You only
got to a certain level. You like being part of
the action. I get that, but I just I don't

(12:34):
see any real benefit from doing that. You kind of
go in knowing that somebody is going to be disappointed,
upset with you, no matter how you call the game,
somebody's going to be upset. Last night, we can all
be upset at the officials with twenty two flags and
then four more that were picked up. It's just a

(12:57):
Sunday one o'clock game. You can get away with it.
A stand alone Monday night or Sunday night game. You
can't because everybody was watching last night. I don't know
what else would stand out as Boy, that's a terrible job,
so thankless. Yeah, referee umpire official. I'd start with those guys.

(13:20):
Anybody else that comes to mind. The guy who's pulling
the cable for the coach and his headset. That always
seems like a thankless job. I don't think anybody says, hey,
great job, Karen Cable tonight, thank you sir, Yes, marm.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
Especially when they're angry, Yeah, running up and down the
sidelines and then throwing their their headset.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, no good, yeah, yes, Paulie.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Think of the jobs that are bad. This may be
a little off. Like those people who are head screenkeepers
for like the US Open or the PGA. Well, it's
a great job. What a pressure job. It's like weather dependant.
You get criticism if they like the US Open golf
course isn't perfect.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
They don't blame the guy who is mowing the greens, right,
they blame the greens keeper, but they rarely do that. Yeah,
they'll be like, man, these greens are running like fifteen
on the stimpmeter. I used to mow greens at a
Jack Nicholas golf course, and then when you'd have tournaments,
you had to hand mow them. What does that mean
that it's just a walk behind mower. And so normally

(14:22):
you'd be on a like a toro kind of a
three mower type setup and then you'd you'd be able
to mow it quicker. But when there's a tournament, you
had to hand mow, and so you're behind this toro
mower and making sure that you have straight lines, and
then you got to go all the way around, you know,

(14:43):
prior to the apron, make sure you cut it. You can't,
you know, clip it where it burns the edges and
the sun comes out and then all of a sudden
you've damaged the green. You got to pick up all
of the uh, you know, the debris from the greens.
So it that was a thankless job. But normally you
didn't get yelled at. It was usually the greenskeeper that

(15:04):
they would yell at. Let me see anything else? John
in Boston, Hi, John, WIT's on your mind?

Speaker 11 (15:12):
Add first Time Long Time six ' three a soft
You guys talked yesterday about the best bands of all time,
and I always respect your taste in music. My taste
is always a lot more modern, But I want to
be able to appreciate these legendary bands you guys always
talk about, And I was wondering, when it comes to
the Beatles, what should I be listening for to truly

(15:33):
appreciate them. Everyone always says is the best, and I've tried.

Speaker 13 (15:36):
Listening to them for a while, but I don't know.

Speaker 14 (15:38):
I don't think I have a great.

Speaker 11 (15:39):
Musical ear, but I want to be able to appreciate them.
So what should I be listening for?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, I mean the White Album, you can't go wrong
with that, Abbey Road, I mean all the stuff later
after they'd fully developed as musicians in the sound, what
they did, you know, I Helter Skelter. You listen to
that and you're like, wait a minute, that pop band
did Helter Skelter. And from what I was told the Who,

(16:04):
We're going to come out with something that sounded almost
punk rock like, like it was going to be loud,
and the Beatles beat them to the punch when they
did Helter Skelter, I believe. And if you listen to
Helter Skelter, it's like, I want to hold your hand
to Helter Skelter. Crazy that you think that band could

(16:25):
be that and that at the same time. But yeah,
i'd say later in their careers, at the end late sixties,
that's when you probably get the variation of what they
were capable of doing, not just a pop band. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (16:40):
See, I think a lot of times it's hard to
go back and listen to a band that's been around
for sixty years and figure out why they're so good
because what they did fifty or sixty years ago changed music,
and now everybody has taken pieces of that. Right, So,
like when you look at Ringo as a drummer, you're like,
I don't know, I didn't see that great. But at

(17:00):
the time he was phenomenal, you know, But like drumming
has progressed, say, or things like that, you know, where
the way things are recorded, or the way they did
some experimental things, or like Revolver and how fuzzy it is.
Maybe at the time those things were a little different
that now everybody kind of sounds has some elements of that.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, they were so far ahead of everybody else with
the sound, the quality. But also you know, I would
read like Rolling Stone will have the top songs of
all time, and then just listen to what they're telling
you about those songs. What you can listen for and
you know, maybe you don't get it, but having been

(17:42):
young when they got here in sixty four and then
all of a sudden what they did and they were
cranking out stuff constantly and even in their solo careers. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:52):
Seen, Like there are some bands that you can look
back at it say, like say the Beach Boys, right,
just mentioned them yesterday and you think, what what are
you listening for?

Speaker 7 (18:02):
That's so great?

Speaker 10 (18:03):
Well, you could just say the harmonies, right, and the
way Brian Wilson like conducts that band like it's an
orchestra not just a band.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Right.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
You can hear all of that and it's kind of
straightforward because I don't know that it does any more
than that.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
You know. Yeah, Brian Wilson was I mean musical genius
and I know we throw that around a lot, but
he was so meticulous. The fact that he put his
piano in his living room and had sand in his
living room with the piano on the sand, is that right?

(18:35):
So he's playing the piano and he's got the piano
in sand in his living room. That is different. You know,
I don't think Mozart did that, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
We'll check.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
All right, thank you, Let's take a break. Come back.
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Speaker 14 (19:12):
He the daddy, heybe, thanks for taking the call a
little a gentleman. So I had a thought with respect
to what John and Boston was just calling ut in
terms of the Beatles, because I grew up. I was
born in nineteen seventy and so when I grew growing up,
the Beatles were like always in the background, and I
was never a fan. It wasn't until probably like fifteen
years ago, maybe fifteen twenty years ago, when I started

(19:32):
listening to music mixes that I would put a phone
on like a Pandora for instance.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'd have a yeah, we lost you bad connection there.
You may not, you know, it's like a different generation
telling me how great Sinatra was. I didn't appreciate Sinatra.
I mean I listened, I got it had some you know,
nice songs, but I wasn't caught up in Sinatra. Elvis

(19:58):
I was just because you know, it was a different sound,
different style what he was doing. But you know, Elvis
took what black artists weren't able to do, and you know,
he became the biggest name in music. But you know,
if I look at certain music acts depending on when

(20:19):
they came out, the kind of music, then I probably
wouldn't have appreciated certain acts. And Sinatra was a classic example.
I was listening to Sinatra last night at dinner and
my wife said, let's put on some Sinatra, and I'm like, okay,
and you know, he's got some wonderful songs, but I
just wasn't caught up in that. Yeah, Paul, I think.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
It works this way in sports as well. I missed
Johnny Unitis, I didn't see Bart Starr, and when I
read their stats, I'm like, these guys were awesome. And
it's hard for me to picture because I didn't watch
Johnny Knights, but I've heard from you and many other
people like this guy was a.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
But you can't call up games, but I can call
up Sinatra music, right. I can play the Beatles, I
can play Sinatra, I can play the Beach Boys. You
can't do that with a Bard Star game, unless you
go the you know, Super Bowl one and two or
Johnny Unitas against the Giants, the you know, so called
greatest game ever played. With music, you can listen to

(21:17):
you can listen to Mozart, you can listen to Bach
and Beethoven, and you can compare and contrast if you
want to. But with sports, you know, being around Babe
Ruth all the time, you know, because that was by
word of mouth. You weren't seeing Babe Ruth lets you
went to watch him or you listen on the radio
and you're like, oh my god. You know, he seems fictional.

(21:40):
But you know today with what we're seeing with Otani
or Aaron Judge, Barry Bonds, it felt, you know, fictional
at some point where you're like, really now, I no
Bonds was fictional, but to a certain degree, yes, Martin.

Speaker 9 (21:58):
Was there any player when you were young? Were you
looking at them in real time like this is the
greatest player I've ever seen?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh, there are quite a few of them in all sports.
And that held up well, you know, you start with
so I went to my first basketball professional basketball game.
I was twelve, and I got to see Wilt Chamberlain
and Jerry West, they kind of held up. I got

(22:25):
to see the Knicks with Walt Frasier kind of held up.
I got to see Maravich kind of held up. So
just start with those and then the Big Red Machine.
I got to see Rose and Bench and Morgan and
Perez and kind of held up. I got to see
my first football game I got to see I got

(22:45):
to see John Hadel, and I got to see Lance Alworth.
Lance Alworth's one of the most underrated wide receivers of
all time. Hall of Famer great. So I was able
to see, you know, quality growing up. So and you
know it kind of withstood the test at time. Yeah, Pauline, I.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Think it bothers me a little bit that I didn't
get to see Kareem Abdul Jabbar as like a Milwaukee
Buck or a young early Laker, because I can't have
a true appreciation for him or even Doctor J. I
saw Doctor J in eighty three, you know, and that
would be the back half of his career, the back third.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I saw him play in the ABA Virginia Squires and
then when he was with the Nets. Kareem I got
to see once in person, see Kareem in college. Was
that was the phenomenon. There's no but there's no better
basketball player than Kareem. I mean, yeah, I know we

(23:43):
can talk Jordan and Kareem's name always gets left out
of that conversation. Kareem changed the game, and he was
doing it against modern day really good centers. You know, Wilt.
We can argue he played against Bill Russell and not
much more than that. Kareem was when against Bill russ
or Willed at the end of his career, went against

(24:03):
a lot of great, great centers and and Kareem is underrated,
which is hard to imagine, but he he was so great.
There's been nobody like that. Nobody's ever come close to
the skyhook. There are guys who are the same height,
nobody could do it. He was so graceful. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:22):
See, it is interesting how like almost right place, right time,
at the right age influences your sports fandom. Like I know,
I was lucky enough to be at the right age
where the first football game I went to, going into
Giants Stadium seeing Jeff Hostetler being like, okay.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
All time great, Yeah that held up.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
Oh yeah, would be like, so this is what it's like,
Jeff Hussey.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, but I think you know that in that sweet spot,
that sweet spot of your fandom where you're collecting cards
and it's so important and you know there's no went
you know, girls as distractions. You just love sports. Memorize that,
you know all the stats there, and that's when you

(25:09):
really get immersed in fandom because that's your territory. Like
I was there. I'm on, you're not gonna tell me
different about you know, Michael Jordan when he was playing,
you know, to see Jordan in the garden, I'd never
seen anything like that before. But I got to see
doctor j in the Aba. You know Wilt when I
saw him at the end of his career. He wasn't

(25:30):
a scorer. He was a rebounder and you know, a
shot blocker. But I got to see Jerry West, and
Jerry West was so different than any other player. I
keeps shooting jump shots off the dribble. We're like, what
is that guy doing? Maravich, I'd never seen anything like that,
and so you know, you're you're able to see. And

(25:51):
quarterbacks back then weren't throwing twenty times in a game.
That just you look at Bob Greasy or you look
at Art Star even Johnny Uniteds. I mean, they weren't
throwing the ball and af a lot the way we
see now. You ran the ball and played good defense.
But Johnny Unitas he changed the game. He gave us

(26:12):
the two minute drill. Seeing Joe Namath, I've never seen
somebody flick the ball and throw it the way he did,
and look the way he did, and white shoes and
he had haircut like the Beatles, and I'm like, those
things just that's the impression. You can't Joe Namath wasn't
a great quarterback. He won maybe the most important game

(26:34):
in NFL history, and he did it in New York.
But there was a style, a swag about him, charisma.
He's one of the nicest people you ever meet. But
to me, Lenny Dawson was a better quarterback. And that
sounds blasphemous, but Lenny, to me, was a better quarterback.
Joe was a personality. Like when we talk about brands now,

(26:56):
Joe had a brand. He didn't know he had a
brand back then, but they're like, now, all these athletes
are looking for my brand. Joe had a brand. Ali
had a brand. To watch Ali in the ring in
the seventies, mind boggling. There was nothing like that even

(27:18):
now they're still trying to do. You know, when guys
talk trash, he did. He invented that. I think he
invented rap. And I know that he's never going to
get credit for that. And maybe I'm totally off base,
but if you look at how he was rhyming, where
he's calling out I'm gonna knock him out, Joe Freight.

(27:41):
I mean he Ali was incredible, absolutely incredible, But to
back it up and be that big and that quick,
and he had it all looks, charisma style, he was
not afraid. He's probably I never got to see Jackie

(28:03):
Robinson or Jesse Owens like those are the two that
I wish I'd been able to see along with Babe Ruth.
But I got to Ali's as big as any athlete
in history with what he did that he was known,
people would follow him. He was like a religious figure
to people. And to see that, to feel that, get

(28:26):
a chance to be around him at the end of
his life, Oh that's those are the magical moments with
all of this meeting. There's great athletes, there are great personalities,
but he was a great athlete who had a great personality.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, pot one that stands out to me that I'm
just very grateful that I was there to see and around,
not around like I covered it, but Bo Jackson from
nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety he was as transfixing
as any athlete on earth with two sports. And you know,
baseball is not prone to highlights. It's usually a home run,
throw someone out. He did everything on both the baseball

(29:04):
and football field. And to see it nightly or to
hear about it nightly and what he could have done
is makes even more mysterious.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I interviewed him the night he won his Heisman Trophy.
I was working at CNN and he had a really
bad stutter back then, and they really didn't want him
to do the interview, but he did. And fast forward many, many,
many years later, I'm playing golf with Bo Jackson in
Chicago and I told him about that night and he

(29:34):
was so humble, like he didn't he didn't, never wanted
to talk about him, his career, nothing, he didn't care.
And I just said, you know, I remember when you
came in, and so he's just kind of waiting for
me to come up with something to say to him
about that like, Yo, I interviewed you the night you
won the Heisman Trophy and he goes okay, and then

(29:55):
I go, yeah, that's it. I mean, I just I mean,
he was waiting for some revelution, like oh my god,
but he was shy, had this stutter. And then you're
realizing that guy on the football field, nobody wanted to
tackle it. Him and Herschel seeing Herschel one time in
college at Georgia and I'm thinking, yeah, that's not fair,

(30:20):
that's not fair. I saw Jim Brown, but not in person.
Herschel's the first time I saw somebody in person where
I go, somebody's gonna get hurt.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
There's gonna be hurt.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, they should have called him Hirtschel because he's gonna
hurt you.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
Yes, Marvin, it's crazy that bo Jackson's a mythological figure,
but a lot of you guys saw him.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, and he's still he is. He still is. Yes,
Ken Griffy Junior is in that too. They're like there's
a little bit of that mythology with him. Like, you know,
Junior was doing something because he was playing in Seattle.
You didn't get to see him. They had the you know,
junior for president Nike campaign. It was you know, even

(31:03):
bow No's I had the bow Nos baseball that Nike
put out. It's a sign that I have I collected
that I had that probably thirty years Yeah, Pauling.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
And going back to Hersha Walker. He was famous at
eighteen when he joined Georgia. They won the national title
when he was a freshman. He ran for seventeen hundred
yards as a freshman in only eleven games. By the way,
it wasn't like thirteen games these days, there's no playoff,
so he did sixteen hundred and eleven games. He was
on the cover of Sports Illustrated twice at the age
of eighteen. That's that's nutty. Like arch Manning we think

(31:36):
is famous. He's Internet famous.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah yeah, but there's so much coverage now that in
so much exposure, over exposure, you still need that. Oh
my god, I didn't see that, but I heard about it.
Now you see everything because like Wilt's one hundred point game,
I mean, it's still like, you got to be kidding me,

(31:59):
one hundred point who is there? You know, there's no
video of that, so it became even larger. You know,
babe calling is shot in the home you know, in
the World Series getting a home run. You know, there's
pictures of that, some grainy video, But I think it's
the word of mouth was so important growing up that
it created an even larger aura around a lot of

(32:22):
these athletes or a lot of these teams, and I
think you benefit from that as opposed to everything is
on display now, everything's available now, so there's not that
mystery that we once had growing up. All Right, last
call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in store tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And the Met's first National League team with multiple Grand
Slams in the postseason since the twenty sixteen Cubs.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Never forget, never going back.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
What hope you enjoy it. It's not going to happen
again in your life.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
You know the deal I told you, I asked for one.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's all you're getting, I know, but it's yeah, you're
fine with that.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
I said to the big guy, give me one. He goes,
that's it, partner, And he did the same with the Bears.
You get one.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Theo Epstein, You said, the THEO big guy, big guy. Absolutely,
Oh you're talking about jac JC.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
And theo Epstein are like interchangeable, the man.

Speaker 9 (33:28):
Of stairs THEO.

Speaker 10 (33:29):
Yeah, he said, yes, I've decided this year I'm rooting
for the Cubs two right.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Cheryl in California, Hi, Cheryl, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (33:38):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Dan?

Speaker 15 (33:40):
I wanted to thank you for having Larry Fitzgerald on
last week. I really enjoyed the interview. And he's somebody
that he don't see very much, and I really admired
him when he was playing, and I thought that when
you asked him about whether or not he'd liked to
continue to play, and he he said no, he was

(34:02):
retired and going to stay retired. He'd seen too many
players chase the ring and it didn't go well.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well, I'm glad you enjoyed at Cheryl. I had Larry
on just for you knowing that you like Larry Fitzgerald.
Really a nice, nice man, nice guy. Yes. Dave in Pennsylvania,
Hey Dave, what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (34:22):
Hey Bud Pepe, Hey, I got a T shirt idea
for you guys. I don't think Shay and Irving will
like it very much, but here goes. Okay. It's a
Detroit Lions T shirt number sixteen, and on it it
says Jared Golfence and Dan, if you allow me to
channel my inner Fritzy, I can explain that to you.

(34:43):
See it has a G in front of the offense
and Jared's last name is goff So Jared Golfence.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Okay. I appreciate that, Thank you, Dave, because I wouldn't
have gotten.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
That one, combining the last name with that side of
the ball.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Like golfense, Yeah, yeah, Jared Goffence.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
You put them together.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, Like you put the G there.

Speaker 8 (35:05):
You get the awe from goff and then you put
the ends from offense and you can kind of make
one word that.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Uh, Dave and Iowa? Hi, Dave, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 16 (35:13):
Mane Kirk Barren seed the game like that?

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Dan?

Speaker 16 (35:16):
Do you know that not only did he get his
two hundred career Big ten win, second only would he
hay now, but the Iowa offense put up forty points
And Dan, they are five out of six games and
Iowa football games covered the over five times this year.
You gotta get on the bus, buddy. This weekend one
or forty and a half against Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Let's do it all right, Dave, thank you. I got
to get on the Indiana bus. I gotta get on
a lot of buses here. Maybe we have Jerome Bettis
on so we get on that bus too, Shawn and Oregon. Hi, Sean,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Hey? Dan?

Speaker 13 (35:51):
Two quick things. You know, with all these fireball pitchers
out there that came Harley fine strike zone, we'll probably
never see a solid pitcher like Jamie Moore again. And
the other thing I want to say, if you ever
want to get to the bottom what's going on with
the Jets or anything else, you go to your most
reliable source. He's your top insider. He's Jimmy Jimmerson, Dan.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
And he's been busy. He's been on other networks because
everybody wants him. Maybe we could locate Oh we have
we found Jimmy Jimmerson. Jimmy, can you help us with
the Jets? Tell us what has been ailing the Jets? Well, Dan,
that's what the Jets have been asking themselves right now.
They've made a few changes with the head coaching situation. Obviously,

(36:33):
they've brought in DeVante Adams, they feel like Aaron Rodgers
needs a little more firepower there. DeVante Adams obviously unhappy
with the Raiders. He made no secret of that.

Speaker 10 (36:42):
Then he asked for a trade and made it very
clear he wanted to go play for one of his
former quarterbacks, whether that was Aaron Rodgers or Derek Carr. Obviously,
now we see that he has landed in New York
with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Thank you, Jimmy, back to you. That kind of summed
that up right there, Jimmy Jimmerson. That might be my
next life being an insider.

Speaker 10 (37:07):
I might just go into an insider because I like
now that like whoa, Hey Wolage has retired or whatever,
and it's like.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh, I'll be the insider guy.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Adam Schefter, you be the NBA guy now, okay, I.

Speaker 10 (37:17):
Will're like what why he does it the NFL?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
He wasn't he'd have to wear two hats.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
He just jump in and be like, depending on the season,
I'm the guy, I'm the insider.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
This day in sports history, Paul, this.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Guy's almost always on it. Nineteen eighty nine, Wayne Gretzky
with the Kings surpassed Gordy House NHL scoring record of
one and fifty career.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
And in two thousand and one, these two teams were
both oh and four and they played on Monday Night
Football two thousand and one. It was the only time
in a thirty one year history of mondayn Football that
two oh and four teams played. Who are the teams
and what was the result? Browns must have been on there,
Cowboys redskin both oh and four. Cowboy it's won the

(38:00):
shootout nine to seven.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
On this date, nineteen eighty eight, Kurt Gibson two out
to run Homer off Dennis Eckersley, giving the Dodgers Game
one of the World Series. This is gonna be a
home run for Gripson.

Speaker 16 (38:16):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I do not believe what I just saw.

Speaker 9 (38:20):
I don't believe what I just saw.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Thank you, Tod, Thank you.

Speaker 10 (38:27):
If you ever wondered what it's like to take a
car ride with Todd, Yeah that's it.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, Yeah, that's it. I think I've taken one car
ride with Todd, thankfully. It was about twelve minute drive
to Bass Pro Shop and.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
I think I made a wrong turn. You got off
the highway one exit too soon or something.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Then he was singing the entire time song would come on,
he'd start singing. Yeah, it's one of those where if
you don't have to stop the car, you can have
it still moving and I'll jump out, Todd, I'm kind
of done with you. Nice. Oregon head coach Dan Lanning
on the program tomorrow, I think we come up with

(39:06):
twelfth Man twelfth Man t shirt. Yeah yeah, I mean
I know their fans are the twelfth Man, but Oregon
they put their twelfth Man on the field. Twelve ducks
in a row, Thank you, Ton.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
What did we learn today, Tod? What did you learn?

Speaker 8 (39:26):
I learned that Bill Belichick probably won't be coaching the
Jets anytime soon, because he says their owner Woody Johnson
takes a ready fire aim approach.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yes, he is not coaching the Jets. Seatan, would you
learn today.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
We need to free Max Crosby?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, yeah, get him out of Vegas? Marvin, what'd you
learn today?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
See?

Speaker 9 (39:45):
You saw Jeff Hosteler play and his night life was
never the same effort.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
When you look back on history and you say, when
did you When did you see your first great quarterback?
When I walked in and saw Jeff Hosk.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
You listened to all of these like a big red machine.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I saw Kareem, I saw like.

Speaker 10 (40:00):
So I really like, Oh yeah, Jeff Hosteler.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yes, really that was it, Paul.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
The Raiders are onto the draft, Toddwood and I learned today.

Speaker 8 (40:10):
Over his first ninety eight NFL career games, Bill's quarterback
Josh Allen has never lost three straight games.

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