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October 23, 2024 40 mins

Dan talks about the Celtics raining 3-ptrs and the father/son debut of LeBron & Bronny James as the NBA season opened up last night. And MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred drops by and couldn’t be happier with the state of the game, especially with their two marquee franchises in the World Series and he confirms that an automated strike zone is coming to the big leagues sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred will join us.
We will play in or out. We'll get to your
phone calls as well. Robert Orriy, seven time NBA champ.
A little bit later on full slate of NBA openers tonight,
Lebron and company an impressive win the Celtics role of
the Knicks as well. But the big news happened about
two hours ago when it was reported by Adam Schefter

(00:28):
the Chiefs have traded for the Titans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hopkins is thirty two years of age. He's one of
those players that you'll see him in the highlights. His
teams usually weren't very good, but you would see like
one hundred catches, twelve hundred yards, ten touchdowns, and he
would do that on a yearly basis. And he didn't
have good quarterback play for most of his career, certainly
not in Tennessee. I love what the Chiefs do because

(00:57):
the future is now a lot of times you'll see
a team and they're like, uh, we don't want to
give up a fourth round draft pick here Kansas City
gave up a fourth round pick for DeAndre Hopkins. He's
thirty two years of age and he might not put
up those impressive seven eight nine catch games like he
used to, but mark my words, there'll be a moment

(01:17):
or moments where you go. That's why they got DeAndre Hopkins.
Patrick Mahomes is the constant, and you have him, you
build around him. You don't want to reload. You want
to and certainly not rebuild. You just you need Kareem
Hunt because Isaiah Pacheco goes out or Rashid Rice is out.

(01:38):
All right, we'll find somebody. We're gonna draft Xavier Worthy.
We're gonna move up, you know, we're gonna trade with
the Buffalo bit whatever it is. We're gonna bring back
Chris Jones. We're gonna make sure that he's signed. You
have a constant in Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, their defensive coordinator,
Steve Spagnolo, rttmeach, their GM. They've done it job and

(02:01):
here they are undefeated and perhaps we're going to have
a three peat. That's what you want in an organization.
Being smart. Kareem Hunt didn't cost him anything. DeAndre Hopkins.
There are probably a few teams that go, wait a minute,
they only gave up a fourth round pick, and there
are going to be other players traded and Cooper Cup,

(02:22):
as I mentioned in the first hour, I wouldn't be
surprised if he's traded now. I was told if the
Rams win on a Thursday night their game against the Vikings,
that might change everything. But if they lose, then Cooper
Cup probably will be traded with the Rams trade him
to the Niners in the division. Chargers could use him,

(02:44):
Steelers could use him. Tampa Bay losing Chris Godwin, They'll
be a lot of suitors there. The question is what
are you going to give up? And this goes back
to what Kansas City did. Kansas City did reach out
to the Rams, according to Dian and resining about Cooper Cup,
why not.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I would.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I don't know what they were asking for, probably a
little more than what Tennessee was asking for with DeAndre Hopkins.
But you have these teams looking for wide receivers. Pittsburgh's
a team. You could put him on Pittsburgh. That'd be
a big upgrade for them. Now he's been banged up.
I think he's only played in two games. Banged up
the year before as well. But you're going to get

(03:31):
to that point where buying and selling and it's fast
approaching November fifth. Who are you going to get? Would
he have to give up to get him? Is it
worth it? Kansas City? It's win now, win again, yes, Martin.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
What about the Ravens do you think they should make
any moves on offense?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, considering the number of receivers that Lamar went to
in his last game, I would say you're good. Defense
is probably where I would try to add something if
I'm Baltimore now. Is Baltimore with two losses, still the
team to beat in the AFC? Because it feels like

(04:11):
we've been caught up in this wave of emotion with
oh my god, Baltimore's offense okay, but Baltimore's defense has
been a real question here. Are you going to just
downscore people? That usually doesn't happen in the NFL. It's
not going to happen. You got to have defense, and
Kansas City has a really good defense. That would be

(04:33):
my question with Baltimore. Do I like what they're doing
on offense?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I do?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Defense always travels. Coaches will say that offense doesn't always
work whether it could play a role. Maybe you're not
connecting your quarterback. You fumble the ball a couple of times.
Defense always travels, no matter what it feels like, we're
going to plug and play and be ready to go.
That's our identity. Offense. It kind of varies weak to week,

(05:00):
month to month where you're going, what's wrong with the
offense here?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh? They'll get it back, yes, Mark.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So if you're the Ravens, do you just call the
Raiders a Max Crosby? What do you want?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
But Max is like what the bleep is going on
around here? Like what He's the one that said I
don't want to be part of a rebuild. Well you're
part of a rebuild. Do you trade Max Crosby? What
do you get from Max Crosby?

Speaker 4 (05:27):
How's his hamstring? I don't think he has a hamstring.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh he's sure he has hamstrings, But I don't think
they're bothering him.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Are you sure he plays? Yeah? Max? Yeah, Davante a
little bit of a limp there, Max.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Okay, Davante Adams hamstring miraculously became one hundred percent ALRIGHTY
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(06:25):
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Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's Big ten. It's Big ten Saturday Night.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
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Here comes Saturday Night, presented by Discover. Alrighty Satan, what
do we have? Poll question wise for hour two.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
We have who's having a better year? I'm in Rossing Brown,
rob Manfred Bryson Daily or Robert Or. I voted for
Robert ri but I'm in Rossaint Brown right now at
fifty six percent of that vote.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
We had him on first hour of the Detroit Lions
All Pro wide receiver rod Manfred is the answer.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
He had a great year, had a great year. Yes
he did.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Started out dicey as, yes it did, but man is
it did? He finish strong?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
By the way last night with the Celtics that made
twenty nine to three pointers. That ties the NBA record
for most threes. They had twenty nine. Then they went
oh for thirteen try to break the record. Jason Tatum
went thirty seven and ten, and Lebron joined Vince Carters
the only players in NBA history to play twenty two seasons.

(07:26):
This was the prediction yesterday on when Bronny James would
enter the game last night. Seven minutes and twenty two
seconds into the second quarter. Todd four minutes and twenty
four seconds left in the first quarter.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
All right, Seaton first quarter, seven minutes and twenty three
second Okay, Marvin.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Second quarter, two minutes in eighteen seconds.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
I'll go third quarter with two and a half minutes
to go.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
He came in with Lebron at the same time with
four minutes to go in the second quarter. He did
not score, but it was a great moment. I just
want to know, now, what do you do? Like you've
done this? They got the Phoenix Suns coming up on
Friday night, at home. Do we do it again? Is

(08:15):
he in the rotation? At what point does he go
to the g League? And then at what point does
he come back? You know, I'm thinking about Friday night
in LA, like I would leave my house now if
I wanted to get to the Dodger Yankee game on
Friday night, because you also have the Suns at the
Lakers Friday night. Rutgers will be at usc Friday night.

(08:41):
David Gilmour of Pink Floyd will be at the Clippers Arena,
and the band War will be at the Greek Theater.
So if you leave now, you probably will avoid traffic there.
War at the Greek Theater, David Gilmore, Pink Floyd. But Yankees, Suns, Lakers.

(09:01):
We'll talk to the commissioner. What's Major League Baseball going
to do? Remembering Fernando of Avenzuela passed away yesterday at
the age of sixty three.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Yes, Paul, you almost waste Like the Dodgers would have
a hotel attached to their stadium. You can get there,
you get set up, you just go in. You could
stay after the game. A lot of the new places,
a lot of new ballparks more like football, are having
those complexes where those hotels connected.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Patriots have that, don't they where they got a whole
little community there.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Indeed, remember the Toronto Blue Jays baseball team, didn't they
skido in the sky them? Didn't they have a hotel
or an apartment complex?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah? Yeah, I stayed there during the World Series.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh what a what an awesome time on the property,
on the property, Yes, had a room, looked right out
onto the field, and went down to Wayne Gretzky's restaurant,
Like I had everything in about a three block radius
there in Toronto, and so covering the World Series, the
Joe Carter World Series, and then we go down to Gretzki's,

(09:59):
have dinner. The look at all the memorabilia come back SkyDome,
Yeah beautiful, Yes, Todd, I think there was a couple.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Of SkyDome that forgot to close the curtains during one
of those baseball games.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Figures, you would put on quite a shell for the scene.
So you think that happened.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
I'm quite sure there was reports about some nefarious activity
that fans got a chance to watch besides baseball.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
How about we how about we get a phone calls,
A couple of phone calls here right, let me see.
How about Ryan and Pittsburgh? Hi Ryan, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (10:30):
DP? Fritzy five two Hannah. Do you guys think the
NFL will eventually mandate that all players have to play
with guardian helmets? I wonder if to was hesitation for
wearing one, of the fact that he would stand out
and be booked and be looked at as weak. But honestly,
I feel like the NFL eventually forced every player to

(10:50):
wear one within the next couple of years, just as
another step to make the game safer.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, I don't know if they can.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I tried to get an answer to that, because I
think if you could, then you would you would say, no,
everybody's going to wear this. I think if everybody wore them,
it would take away the Oh look at him, you know,
it look like you have a light bulb on your head.
But if safety is your number one priority and this
would bring about more safety, then why would the players

(11:20):
Association or why would the owners object to this?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Why would the players object to this?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Now?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I get the players because it does look odd, But
could you imagine going back in time when they said,
you know what we're going to do. We're going to
put face mask on our helmets. Oh are you kidding me?
That's soft? So back in the day, look at him.
I don't know if the NFL goes you know what,

(11:49):
I don't know how you mandate that, But I'm trying
to get an answer to that.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I have not Yeah, poem.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah, just a year ago, they weren't even allowed in games.
They were just in practice. Yeah, it does feel like
you know, hockey goalie masks fifty sixty years ago, where
once it becomes fifty to fifty players using them, players not,
there'll be a stigma if you're not using it. It
could be two years from not three years.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, even hockey when you're gonna wear a helmet, like
what are you doing? You're gonna wear a shield? That's
not hockey. Who was it, Craig McTavish. Yes, he was
the last guy. He was the holdout. I mean, if
I was a hockey player and I would have long
hair and i'd have it flowing, you know, I get
it that I wouldn't want to wear a helmet.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
But then you know, you.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
See some of those guys, they take shots, take a
stick to the face, like, yeah, you know I'm gonna
have a windshield on my helmet.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yes, Paul.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
So, the NHL made a rule in the late seventies
and early eighties that you had to wear a helmet.
But if you started playing before the cutouf date nineteen
seventy nine, you were grandfathered in because they figure you'll
be out of the game soon. McTavish milk this to
the end, old ironhead.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Mctabot, iron face mc tabbish. Woody in Kentucky, Hi, Woody,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (13:06):
How are you? How are you?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Gentlemen?

Speaker 9 (13:08):
Hey? I want to thank Vince for taking me off
the hook. I had some seat and hate about the
whole hockey thing. And you know, i'd never made got
to a voodoo doll. But thank you Vince for that.
But honestly, I want to thank you Pat because.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's Dan I am.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
I'm sorry. I know, I know what show?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Am I calling?

Speaker 9 (13:30):
Hey anyway?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
McAfee, I think.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
No, No, I've got I got a name forget it.
I should I hang up by myself?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, go ahead, I'll just hang up. Whatdy? Just hang up?
Why does he hate me because of a hockey thing?
I don't know. I don't know. And then they were
talking about the voodoo doll. Yeah he got that.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Dude got me, Vince in Austin, Austin, Yeah, yeah, he
really got me. He's got If I was him, I'd
start a voodoo doll company right now, because.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
So you're you're actually in pain. You think maybe Vince
sticking pins in a seating voodoo doll has impacted you
or is it just a coincidence?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Called here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
You know, A year ago I stopped drinking because I
was just like, ah, maybe I'll get more healthy.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
It'll be awesome.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
A year from now, I'm gonna feel great and I've
never felt worse in my entire life.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
So are you going to start drinking.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
I'm not going to start drinking again yet. But Vince
saying he has a voodoo doll of me because I
picked somebody to beat, well, I pick everybody to beat Texas.
But that makes a lot of sense other than I
don't know my age in general?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Should we sell voodoo dolls for the audience that they
can stick pins in those voodoo dolls? Now we do
have those be voodoo dolls, oh I know, But if
people could purchase them and they didn't like what we
were saying, and they just put a pin in us.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Maybe we can make a contest out of it. We'll
sell voodoo dolls, and then who whichever voodoo dolls sells
the most. That person is obviously the least liked. Who
would have Paul?

Speaker 7 (15:07):
Yeah, that's the right answer.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That you think more people would buy a Paully voodoo
doll to stick pins in it?

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Yeah, it's payback time.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
I don't know, I would say me or Todd Maybe,
I don't know. Maybe you think a lot of people
are hate listening to this show, like I hate you.
To him, that doesn't happen. I'm like, gotta do something
with your life. Man, I listen to you, but I

(15:38):
hate you guys.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm like, all right, like hate We're just five, you know,
goofy guys, just trying to have a little.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Fun interest the original name of the show.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, it's five goofy guys trying to have some fun
in the morning. All right, we'll take a break. The
Commissioner Major League Baseball joints this next.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
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Speaker 2 (16:10):
More phone calls coming up will revisit the Lakers with
their win at home, Phoenix Suns coming to town on Friday.
With the World Series in town as well. You have
the Bucks and Sixers, Sixers without Joe Ellenbid and Paul
George Tonight Magic against the Heat, the Suns against the Clippers.
We welcome back Commissioner Major League Baseball. He's Rob Manfred

(16:30):
joining us on the program. World Series kicks off on Fox.
First pitch will be Friday night at eight oh eight
between the Yankees and the Dodgers. How often do people
hit you up for World Series tickets?

Speaker 10 (16:44):
I would say I worked probably ten hours yesterday. I'd
say about five of them were devoted to ticket requests.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
How do you tell somebody no.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
You know, look, people understand, you know that even we
don't have unlimited supplies of World Series tickets obviously, you know,
season ticket holders kind of go first, and you just have.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
To be honest with people about availability.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
So I could be your plus one, is what you're.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Saying, Dan, if you want to go, we'll find you tickets.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay, Yeah, what about throwing out the first pitch is
that is that booked already?

Speaker 10 (17:27):
The first pitch is well booked well in advance.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, that's all done.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
How will Baseball honor Fernando Velezuela on Friday?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
There will be an activation in the ballpark.

Speaker 10 (17:41):
I think best to leave the details of that to
be disclosed when it happens. But look, Fernando was a
really important part of our history. You know, you don't
have many players who take over a season the way
he did.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
And we will honor him a court.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Could he go into the Hall of Fame as a
contributor if I look at his career really what he
did impact with race, relations with Mexico, with Los Angeles,
you know, it was more than just he was a
pitcher for a little while in baseball.

Speaker 10 (18:17):
You know, I think that's one of the you know,
I'm on the Hall of Fame board, but I don't
serve on these committees. I do think that after the
writers have their opportunity, which you know, is a process
that I think has served the whole well and I
had great respect for. You know, I do think that
the era committees, if you'll let me refer to him
that way, are important in terms of giving consideration to

(18:42):
factors like you raised with Fernando that you know, it's
not just how many wins and you know what your
VRA was, but what did you mean to the game
in a particular era.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, that's why I mean it's tricky with being a
contributor because I argued for Buck O'Neil for years that
Buck O'Neill was the voice for the negro leagues. When
somebody said what was cool Papa about, you know, like
what was Josh Gibson like, they went to Buck O'Neill.
So Buck was telling stories about everybody. I said, It's
an ultimate contributor while being a baseball player. So I

(19:18):
like that part of it. But I just don't know
what qualifies and what doesn't.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, No, I do think that.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
I think that in the Era committee process, you know,
individuals who didn't get in with the writers are given
consideration on a broader set of factors than the writers
may give credence to.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
He's the commissioner, Rob Manfred. If I would have told
you in March, hey, you're going to get through the
show Heyo Tani situation, and you're going to have the
Yankees and the Dodgers in the World Series, you would
have said, what it was.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
About time I caught up with no.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
Look, honestly, the season has been phenomenal for stand I mean,
I you know, our tenants really strong. You know, our
ratings are good, Our demographics are getting younger. You know,
our eighteen to thirty four numbers really strong. Our average
age of our ticket buyers has gone down almost five

(20:28):
years in the last four years. All of those things
are really strong. We had great markets in the postseason
with some of our you know, most exciting players represented,
and maybe the best thing about the postseason so far,
the actual individual games have been so compelling. I mean,
we have had all of the things that you know,

(20:50):
based on our research, fans want to see late inning, pitching, changes, action.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I mean, it's just been phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I think I love the three game series, so I
love a five game series. I think it caught people's
attention earlier than normal because there was urgency there, and
therefore we didn't wait till, you know, Championship series of
the World Series to watch. It was you better watch now,
this team could get bounced.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
You know.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
I think that we kind of found the sweet spot
on the wildcard round. I think that you know, in
the early years, it was a knockout game, and obviously
people pay attention to knockout games, but I think for
our fan base as a whole, that's not the way
baseball's played. And I think, you know, the quick three

(21:38):
game series in one market gives us an opportunity to
capture fans earlier in the in the playoffs, and when
you get the things I referred to before, the late
inning lead changes and those sorts of things going on,
you know, you capture people and it's you carry that
audience through.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
When's the last time you got a raise?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Let me see, I got to think about that. I
think I'm going to get a raised in January. How
about that? You know, Ira in January? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Okay, So you have a contract now, you know I
had a contract at ESPN that told me what it
was going to go up incrementally each year. Do you
have your Does your contract state what it's going to do?
You never thought you were getting this question today, did you.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
No, I do have a contract.

Speaker 10 (22:30):
I got four years left on my contract and it
sets forth compensation in a variety of forms, salary, bonus, whatever.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
How do you know you've had a good year.

Speaker 10 (22:42):
There is actually a review process that goes on. There's
a committee of owners that you know, we present information too,
and they go through and you know, I sit with
them at an owners meeting and they give me their
view of.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
How I've done for the year.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But do you want to hit home runs or you
want to have a great on base percentage? As commissioner,
you know, I.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Think it's important for a CEO to be steady.

Speaker 10 (23:14):
I mean, I think that stability, consistent progress is really
really important.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I know we're not there at the off season, but
what rule tweaks are we looking at.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, the biggest thing.

Speaker 10 (23:28):
That's going on right now is the automated strike zone.
We continued to testing in the minor leagues last year.
We are we have decided that we're going to test
the challenge version. You know, there's two versions of ABS,
one where every pitch gets called in the umpire's year

(23:49):
and the other that's a challenge system. We're going to
test test this challenge system in spring training with major
league players. You know, one of the things that we
learned with the rule changes that we did a couple
of years ago, and one of the things we've heard
from players is just remember whatever you're do in the
minor leagues, it's great, but the big leagues are different,

(24:12):
and we're going to try to determine whether the system
we have is up to snuff to be used by
major league players.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Is it inevitable we're going to have automatic balls and strikes?
In your opinion, during your next four years, will we
have automatic strikes?

Speaker 10 (24:29):
I think you will see some version of the automated
strikes on in the big leagues in the next four years.
You know, Look, the technology piece of it is so robust,
and I mean literally the path of the pitch is
tracked good to one one hundredth of an inch and
it's just hard to ignore that kind of technology when

(24:53):
it's available.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And I think the key is that remember the well
obviously you remember the pitch clock was all my gone,
what are they doing?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
And then nobody brought it up. It hasn't come up
in months.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
All the bigger bases, Oh we need pizza boxes out there,
It doesn't come up anymore.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
This is why you're so good at what you do.

Speaker 10 (25:16):
I have to tell you, when we think about change,
we think about it exactly the way that you describe it.
That We're going to put a change out there, and
no matter how big or how small it is, the
first month is going to be hell on wheels.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
You know, everybody's gonna hate it.

Speaker 10 (25:40):
And then you know, they see it and the game
is still the game, and it makes the game a
little better and people get used to it.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I mean even little things. Remember is a few years ago.

Speaker 10 (25:54):
Now we went to the you can just signal for
an intentional walk. You don't have to throw the four
pictures my voicemail after that change was made, for about
the first three.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Weeks, people called me.

Speaker 10 (26:07):
You can't repeat the things people say on my office voicemail.
It's just people like literally lose their mind over a
change is completely inconsequential.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Wait, wait, I can call you in your office and
leave a voice message.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Oh just just yeah. Unfortunately people figure out how to
get here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Oh, can I give out your number now in case
anybody wants to bet.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I would prefer we put them to the test.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
So they're leaving messages on there?

Speaker 10 (26:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, people leave messages, you know they you know, look,
one of the great things about the game, and you know,
it's taken me time to come to appreciate this, you know, good, bad,
or indifferent. The fact that people are passionate enough about
the game to take time to express their views in

(27:04):
very strong ways, that is a strength of our sport.
I mean, it demonstrates the connection that people have to
the game and how much they care about the game.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know what, I think you had a great year.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And I've said this before the last couple of months,
but you took chances get rid of those stupid All
Star Game uniforms. That's the next thing on the list,
right We're doing We're taking care of that, right, yeah,
we are. Okay, that's an easy fix.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well, you know, let's.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
Talk about that for a minute, because it's sort of
an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
One of the reasons that we stayed where we were
for as long as we did is the All Star
Game uniforms was a product that's sold a lot. And
you know, usually when people are buying something, it's an
indication that.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
They think it's a good idea. Yeah, this was a
really interesting one. People were buying it.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
But they hated it.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
I don't know why. I mean, I don't know why
they bought it if they hated it that much. But look,
I think it's a change that's good for us over
the long haul.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, but you can still do that, Commissioner, you can
still make an alternative jersey.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
But let's go back to the old school.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Uh. Yeah, we'll have.

Speaker 10 (28:25):
Jerseys that we used during the home run derby probably
that I think that's where it will land.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
That so we will still have the product.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
But it was an interesting one, and I do think
it's one of those experiments where, you know, we did it,
people spoke, we listened, and we're.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Back to where we were.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
The Pete Rose documentary, Uh did you watch it?

Speaker 10 (28:47):
I did?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I did.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Did you find out anything that you didn't know or
something that maybe you cared a little more about.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
Look, you know, I'd spent enough time with Pete over
the years that I had a pretty good feel for
what he was about.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I think the best thing.

Speaker 10 (29:10):
About the documentaries that presented a pretty accurate picture of who.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Pete is and was.

Speaker 10 (29:18):
I mean it, and he was a complicated person, combination
of appealing and unappealing aspects that you don't often find
in the human being.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
All Right, I want you to answer this so I
don't have to answer it anymore when my audience says Yeah,
but baseball is in bed with gambling, and so aren't
they being hypocritical with Pete Rose.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, here's here's how I think about that.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
I think it's a privilege to work in Major League
Baseball and to be a Major League Baseball player. Often
when you have a privilege, it comes with obligations. The obligation,
and in this case, is to stay away from gambling
because it involvement with gambling by people who work in

(30:09):
the game and can influence outcomes, reflects and presents a threat.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
To the integrity of the game. So that's a category
of people.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
Fans are different, you know, the government, you know, in
this case, the Supreme Court paved the way for legalization
of sports betting.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Fans want to engage with the game in.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
That way, they present no threat to the integrity of
the game, or a minimal threat to the integrity of
the game. And as a result, we have different rules
that applaied to those fans that have taken advantage of
that business opportunity. I don't see any inconsistency between those
two rules.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
I worry about prop bets Commissioner, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 10 (30:58):
I have to say we have lobbied against prop bets
in a variety of states, all the states. Actually they
are certainly more problematic. Then I'll come based. You know,
Google won the game kind of bets, and we have
tried to get the states to recognize that there are

(31:19):
some well betting per se sports betting may be fine,
there are certain kinds of bets that are problematic.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Great to talk to you, take a victory lap. You
certainly had a great year. Major League Baseball had a
great year as well, and hopefully we get a great
World Series.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Thanks again, Thank you, Dan.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's always a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's Rob Manfred. He's been the commissioner since twenty fifteen.
You know, I was there when Bouie kun the former commissioner,
was clearing out his office. I was working in New
York at CNN and I did a story. I went
to watch Booie Kyun clear out his office as the
former Baseball commissioner, and then you had Bud Seally come in.

(32:00):
But my boss at the time said you're going to
go watch Buie Kune clear out his office, and I go, huh,
And it was fascinating because he's done as the commissioner
and he's taking it. I mean, he's packing up and
it he's not. He wanted an emotional guy, but you

(32:22):
could tell there was emotion in there. And I was
trying to stay out of the way we were filming him,
but I had him miked up and I wanted him
talking about clearing out his office, and it was just
one of those weird moments where I go.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, this is different. This is different.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
We'll take a break when we come back. It's the
popular game that's sweeping the nation. It's called In or Out.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.
We're gonna play in or Ount. Very very complicated, very
very complicated.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Charles Barkley and Shack I watched a lot of Inside
the NBA on TNT last night. They were in Boston,
and Charles and Shack had this to say about the
report that Joe Ellenbiid says he won't be playing back
to back games again in his career.

Speaker 11 (33:27):
I was so disappointed in Joel Embiid said he wasn't
gonna play back to back game.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You're one of the.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
Three or four or five best players in the world.
You cannot say, as a leader of that team, I'm
not gonna play certain games. That's not the way to
start the season. And not only that, and it doesn't
make sense. The league isn't that physical for him to
say that. He's a picking popper. He's not a big guy,
you know. Me and Charles try to get him to
play it being so oh, the game is different when
I playing that you pick in power, you don't get double,

(33:54):
you don't get triple, you don't get flavoran filed. There's
no reason to say I'm not playing back to back.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Okay, So Shaq and Charles making their opinions known last night,
I mean I don't know. I guess Joe Ellenbiid announces
that or the Sixers do.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Let's do it early.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
So when people say, well, wait, Mint, why aren't you
playing in that game? After playing in that game, and
then you eventually have to get around to saying, well,
I'm not going to play in back to back games.
I mean, the NBA has got an issue with, you know,
load management. Kawhi Leonard once again, he's out. Joe Ellenbiid,
You're not going to play back to back games here.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
Yeah, maybe I'm wrong about this, but are constant knee
and foot injuries the result of being hacked on your
way to the basket.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
I don't know if there's a correlation there.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, he had a bad back when he was
at Kansas, he came in injured.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
But I mean Shack is talking about hey man, I
mean the way that you you're not getting to the hoop,
you're not getting hacked, You're not getting to just go play. Well,
that doesn't help his knees that are falling apart. That
doesn't help his feet that are falling it. That doesn't
help most of his injuries.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not looking at it
the right way.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
But if you dude, just go through his injury list,
it's knee, calf, foot, foot, foot, foot, foot, knee, foot, foot, knee, foot, foot, knee, foot,
there's a million of them.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, And I think being that size, you know, just
running up and down the floor, you're far more susceptible
than you know some you know, Shaq was down low.
I mean he was still getting beat up, but I
think you know, Embeid far more mobile. But I don't
know I mean he came in with injuries. He you know,
joined the Sixers. He was injured injured at Kansas as well.

(35:44):
But you know that's the old school. Get off my lawn,
go out there and playing back to back games. You know,
you don't believe in load management, but today's player, today's
player does because we've allowed them to load manage and
then they took advantage of it. But I still and
you know, the commissioner changed the rule. I brought it
up to him. I said, you should have to qualify

(36:06):
to be first, second, third team All NBA. You should
have to play a certain number of games to qualify
for awards. And he changed the rule. And then you
had you know, players saying that's not fair. No, they
to be the most valuable, you've got to play in
a certain number of games. I think that's only fair

(36:27):
to the award or Rookie of the Year, fair to
the award first team, the amount of money that's attached
to first, second, and third team All NBA. I mean,
you have to be accountable. You can't play forty two games.
You can be a great player. I think you got
to play. I think that, you know, be fair to
the fans. I don't think that's asking too much. All right,

(36:49):
let's time, let's let's play. It's time to play in
or out? PAULI, would you give the rules?

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Please?

Speaker 7 (36:55):
I give you a statement. You say you're in. If
you're in and if you're out, what do you say?

Speaker 6 (36:59):
In?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Out?

Speaker 7 (37:01):
That's right, It's just that's okay. In or quickly around
the room?

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Todd after that, Oh, is there a question?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:09):
I got to get there, don't they We just say like,
I'm in or I'm out. I think there's a question,
and then we comment on whether because I was.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Going to say in and I'm playing this game.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
Oh, if you went out of the segment, you could say.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Outright now, No, I want to be in your segment.

Speaker 7 (37:20):
You're in. I think we're all in. After the Chiefs
trade for DeAndre Hopkins, I would take them over the
field to win the AFC.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Who's in?

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Who's out?

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Todd out? See in Marvin and I'm going to go in.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
The Rams should not trade Cooper Cup to the forty
nine ers under any circumstances.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
God out, Seaton in Marvin out.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I'm going to say they shouldn't. Is that in?

Speaker 7 (37:54):
Even if it's the best offer you get.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I'm I'm not going to trade them to the forty
nine ers.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Yeah means you're in.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Okay, yeah, that I'm in.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
I'm being out of the Niners. Yes, perfectly worded. Okay,
Alabama will not make the college football playoffs.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh, Todd out?

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Okay, so you said the word in, I'm out.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
They will find a way in.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
So I'm out of the problem with the question.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I do think it's the phrasing on the question.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Alabama will not make it.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I'm out on the question on in.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
And out, which means you're in on Bama.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
I'm not. I'm in on Bama. I think mart Seaton
all right, So if you're in, that means they're out right.
So what Dan when you said you're in on Bama.
Oh no, I'm I think they make the playoff.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
You're out on the state.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
So you're out on the question. Yeah, I'm in on
the question. Marvin.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
It's like a Swiss watch. This is so good the Dodgers.
The Dodgers had the best looking uniforms in baseball. I'm
going to say, in you look like a star.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
We started with you. You're saying, wow, that's how.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Much I believe Okay, you look like a star when
you play.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Todd in around in Seaton, I'm out. Best uniform is
New yor.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, Marvin in around in. Absolutely, I thought the Blue
Jays have the best uniform.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
They have the best logo in sports. Not the best uniform.
I mean the heaven white, the red, the red in
the front and the blue in the bag, the.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Red jersey red. Yeah, never change. Yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm in best uniform absolutely in two more, I thought
you would go podres PAULI weren't you all about the press, dude?

Speaker 7 (39:45):
They're kitchy, cool kitchen like the Dodgers are emeritus. Okay, okay,
two Victor Winbanyama will be first team All NBA this season.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
Todd in Seaton in twice, I could be more in
than just in. I would be in double in capital yeah,
capital in all right, I'm high on.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
The on the spurs, all right, Uh, Marvin out, I'm
going to be out.

Speaker 7 (40:18):
All right.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Last one, although you should have been Defensive Player of
the Year last year.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
That was embarrassing. They gave it to Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
This one's a hammer, okay, and am I start by
saying I'm in on this statement, this is Lebron's last
season of professional basketball.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
You say it is Todd out Seaton, I'm in, Marvin out.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
It's not as last year, which means you're out there.
You go see how this works.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
In or out that Robert or Orio Well John is
coming up.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Final hour of the program. We're back after this
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