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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on the program, at least for this Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Big news.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Earlier today, three hours ago, the Chiefs announced the trade
for DeAndre Hopkins. He was with the Titans, and they
gave up a conditional fourth round pick.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I love the move.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Kansas City not afraid to add and subtract here. They've
had injuries here, Kareem Hunt. They brought him in after
they lost Isaiah Pacheco. Pachecko was expected back. You know,
they lose Rashi Rice. That was a big loss. Now
you put DeAndre Hopkins in there, and it just feels
like you got another underneath receiver with Travis Kelce. I mean,
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this is what defenses have done. It's really because of
Patrick Mahomes. You see these defensive backs. They're so deep
because they're not letting anything over the top. This goes
back when Tyreek Kill was with Kansas City. Everything's in
front of you. Now you're going to get down the field,
but it's going to take you a little bit longer
going to have those big plays. Kansas City is saying,
(01:02):
all right, if you're going to do that, we got Kelsey,
we got DeAndre Hopkins. If by chance we get Xavier
Worthy over the top, maybe we can have a home
run play there. But Kansas City doesn't have those home
run plays anymore. Their defense is what is leading them
and the offense is trying to keep up, and you've
certainly seen that so far undefeated. So the Chiefs they
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trade for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
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You can watch the program and our radio affiliates around
the country. Full slate of NBA games tonight. The Dodger
Great Fernando of ellen Zuealer died at the age of
sixty three. We had the Commissioner of Baseball on last hour.
He said there is a tribute coming up Friday night,
but he didn't want to spoil that tribute.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Lebron and Bronni play.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The Lakers win, and it's the debut for JJ Reddick,
and probably in that order that it was about Lebron
and Bronny playing in the same game. Anthony Davis had
a wonderful game. He talked about Lebron and Ronnie after
the game.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
This is the first time we had a Lebron moment
that was you know, something huge and we won so
area I think we always lost, so it kind of
kills the moment. But he knows a special moment for everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Now what happens because they played in the same game,
they checked in at the same time, four minutes left
in the second quarter. Now what Because he's not in
the rotation, He's not even close to being in the rotation.
He's not ready to play on a nightly basis in
the NBA. In my opinion, I don't see that yet.
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But I want to give him the benefit of the
doubt by getting some games in the G League and
let's see what he does well. Let's let him find
out what he's going to be able to do well
and contribute.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Maybe he's a specialist.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Maybe it's just he's going to be in there's a
back cup point guard and play good defense. He does
have the ability to hit the three, But Dalton Connect,
the rookie out of Tennessee who hit a three last night,
he's going to be in the rotation there, I thought,
JJ Reddick quietly and that's, you know, kind of strange
to say, is the Laker head coach doing something quietly?
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Had a really good night calling timeouts. It felt like
there was more strategy involved with JJ Reddick and understanding
who to put in, who to take out react in
real time when Minnesota was making a comeback there. But
I thought JJ Reddick had a nice debut as well.
Eight seven seven to three DP Show email address DP
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at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show College Football.
We're going to talk to the Army quarterback. He's Bryce
and Daily He's got nineteen rushing touchdowns this year. He's
thrown for seven more and Army is undefeated. Now they
got air Force coming up. Then they're going to have
Notre Dame. There is a chance Navy and or Army
could slip in to the playoffs, the twelve teen playoffs,
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So we'll talk to him coming up here in a moment.
By the way, the top twenty five rankings. How many
teams from the SEC have teams ranked in the top
twenty five?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Paul five, Marvin seven, Todd six, Seaton three nine. Wow
many Big ten? How many teams in the Big ten
in the top twenty five?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Martin five bloop blop, the ACC four, Big twelve three,
The American Conference has two, but the SEC they have
a second, fifth, seventh, eight fourteenth, eighteenth, eighteenth or fifteenth, eighteenth,
twenty first and twenty fifth, and some of the games
coming up. You have Illinois at Oregon. I didn't think
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that that was going to be great, but it's been.
It's been a lot of on with Illinois just coming
off the win against Michigan. They are going to see
a little more offense with Oregon than they did with Michigan.
Texas at Vandy, all right. Once again, at the beginning
of the year, I didn't think I'd be circling that one.
LSU at A and m see that if I'm LSU,
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don't screw it up. Notre Dame at Navy. I'm debating
if I'm going to go to this game that'll be
at the Meadowlands, and then Missouri at Alabama. Can you
imagine if Alabama loses again, then they're out of the playoffs, right,
I think that'd be yikes, pretty yeah boy, yikes, yeah, yeah, yikes.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Robert or will join us.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Seven time NBA champion'll join us coming up in about
twenty minutes from now. He's the quarterback of Army. Ranked
in the top twenty five, He's Bryson daily joining us
on the program. I was just talking about your rushing numbers,
your passing numbers. How's the fence different with Army this
year as opposed to last year.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
I think, you know, scheme wise, you know, we changed
some stuff. We kind of went back to what we
were doing originally under center. But besides scheme, I think
we're just a lot closer as a group.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know, I have a.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Really good relationship with coach Warley, you know, first year
offensive coordinator, really good relationship with him, and I think
things just really clicked from a relationship standpoint.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
How many schools recruited you out of high school?
Speaker 6 (06:35):
So Army is my only FBS school that recruited me.
And then I had about four FCS schools in Texas
and about four Ivy League schools.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Uh why Army?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
It was really the easy choice.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
It was the best football, the best education, and an
opportunity to serve in the military, and those are all
things that were appealing to me.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
It was really the easy choice.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Give us an idea what that first year is like
at west Point.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It's tough, you know that that first basic training, those six.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Weeks pretty tough, especially when you don't come from military background,
which I did not. You know, you're learning new things
every day. You know, your question if you if you
want to go here, you're questioning if you know you're
tough enough for this, if you're built for this. It's
it's very mentally taxing on you. And but luckily I
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made it through.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
How many phone calls to home about maybe leaving army
that first year.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Yeah, there was really It came in letters during uh
basic training, you know, on for phones, so I'd write
my grandpa, I think, wrote me a card every day.
I got one of them, which helped out a lot,
but i'd I'd write home and you know, tell him
it was tough.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I don't think I ever really, like I said, I
want to leave, and I forgot quite to that point.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
But just encouragement from them and seeing how proud family
and friends were back home really encouraged me to stay
here and tough it out.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Was football the easy part of trying to get acclimated
to West Point.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It was.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Physically harder, of course, but not near as mentally challenging,
because when you're going through a tough day of football,
it's like, all right, you still love football, So it
made it.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Not as bad.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
But when you're doing, when you're on the field, getting
yelled at, that's not something you love naturally, so that
was harder in that aspect.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Give us an idea of your schedule today.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
So we'll up about six point thirty, got my uniform ready,
We went to morning formation. We stand there, they count
us off, make sure we're all alive and well. We
go to breakfast at about seven fifteen, and then we
have class seven forty until lunch.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Right now. I was able to miss miss some stuff
to come up here and interview with you today, and then.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Practice and treatment start about you know, one to two,
and that goes on until about seven and eight tonight,
and then we'll go home and do do some more work.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
When's the last time you got yelled at or disciplined discipline?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You don't get yelled at as much as a first
year senior, but I'd say probably about two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What you do wrong?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
I had the had the wrong uniform. All they let
me know a quick correction. We gotta fix.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Bryson daily, the Army quarterback. Are you rooting for Navy
or Notre Dame?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This weekend.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
That is a good question, you know, not too worried about.
And if they could both lose, that'd be awesome. But
you're never never gonna say we're rooting for that school
in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
So I guess we'll say Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Okay, if you could beat Navy or Notre Dame, you.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Had to pick, we're gonna try to be both of them.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
No, no, no, no, no no. If you have two
plays in the huddle, you got to call one play.
So that's what this is. You got Navy or Notre Dame,
and I can wave a magic one and you're going
to win one of those two games, not both, only one.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Well, there's a championship on the line for our for
our game against Navy, if you know, if everything goes
as playing against air.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Force, there'll be a championship on the line. So we'll
say Navy.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay, do you hate Navy?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I dislike Navy, But but what did they do to you?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You know, they they're just arrival, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
They we say, beating Navy is ingrained in us when
we got here. Beating Navy all the time is what
we break it down on. So, yeah, we we dislike
Navy here.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But you don't hate air Force the way you hate Navy.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
It's a different it's a different relationship with air Force.
Different relationship for sure, but we also dislike them.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Have you ever done the Heisman pose?
Speaker 7 (11:30):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, privately, you've never done it. Joking around in the practice,
you've never done it.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Maybe as a maybe as a little kid or.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Some Okay, there's a good chance you could get invited
to the Heisman ceremony. I mean the numbers that you have,
you guys are undefeated. I mean, there's a real chance here, Bryson.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Well, if that were to be the case. Chance Keith,
one of my teammates, would be very happy. He hits
He hits a posed every time I run to the sideline,
so he would be very happy about that.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Come true for him for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Do you watch college football?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I do. I'm a big fan of college football. You know.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Bye weeks are exciting because I get to watch a
lot of good games this weekend.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So yeah, I'm a fan.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
As soon as we play on Saturdays, I try to
find the closest TV and catch all the.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Games after What are you going to do when you're
done at West Point.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I'm going to serve as an officer.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I'm gonna start out, hopefully start off as an infantry officer,
and then move into the Engineer Corps later into my
army career. But that's the plan right now. I don't
know how long I'll stay in, but that's that's my
five year plan up to that point.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Let's play the rice and daily push up game. How
many push ups can he do?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Todd? I'm going to start with you, how many do
you think he can do?
Speaker 8 (13:00):
One hundred and twenty five?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
One twenty five? He looks like he's in really good shape,
just saying seaton.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't think he knows a number that he would
have to stop at. I think he'll just go straight through,
ok to be like, I don't know. It might be
one hundred and fifty, might be three hundred and fifty eight.
He just keeps going, Okay, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
He's a man's man. So I'm going to say five hundred.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And eighty five hundred and eight.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
Wow, Paulie, I've got the exact answer. However, menu, however
many you need me to do?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Beat navy ooh uh you want to you want to answer?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Then, I like that like that last time.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
So whatever you need, could you could you do five hundred?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I couldnot not in one sitty No, I've never done
triple digits and one go so okay.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, but if you had to give me a hundred
today in a day, I could give you one hundred, okay,
if it meant you were going to beat Navy exactly. Yeah,
it's good to talk to you. Maybe I'll see you
at the Notre Dame game. Maybe I'll maybe I'll see
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you and I'll be on your sideline by the way.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Good, I hope, so yeah, hopefully that shoulders killed up.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I can't even give you one push up right now.
Good to talk to you, and good luck with the
upcoming schedule there. Thanks for joining US yep, thank you
beating Navy, Bryson Daily ready to go, got air Force,
you got Navy. See, that would be a dilemma. You
could beat Notre Dame, but then you lose to Navy.
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Your season has always been about beating Navy. But if
you beat Notre Dame then all of a sudden you
got a lot of people's attention. But if you lose
to Navy, then you screw up that opportunity to maybe
play the postseason. But Navy and now they're playing in
Annapolis May Are they playing in at Navy this year
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or DC? Is that right, Tod, Yeah, they're playing like
in a DC.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So kind of a neutral field there, I guess of
sorts there, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
I guess it is for that for them. But is
it that huge a deal these days to beat Notre
Dame or is it because of that school that's looking
to try to sneak into it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, if you're going to STA undefeated, you got to
beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
But as far I'm talking about in general, the weight
of the Notre Dame program as it is right now,
is that considered?
Speaker 9 (15:32):
Oh my god, you beat Notre Dame, you must be.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Great for Navy or Army to beat Notre Dame?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Huge?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Still huge?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. Well, we'll talk
to Robert Orring, seven time NBA champ. We'll recap what
we saw last night, have him handicap what he thinks
going to happen in the NBA season. We'll take a break.
We're back after this in the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (16:08):
Every time I bring up Robert Or's name, I always
go ri ri O Jungle Love.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I don't. I don't know why We've been doing that
for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, never gets old. He's Robert or Or Oh Jungle Love.
Lakers ans for Spectrum Sports. Now you know the game?
Speaker 9 (16:29):
You know that?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
You know that song?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Oh? I do know.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
They used to do that in high school and that
was until I get a dunk.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
They would chant that.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oririo was that from Purple Rain?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
That was from Purple.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Morris Day, Morris Day, Morris Day in the Night. Did
you ever meet Prince?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
I met Prince once when we had the All Star
Game in Minnesota, just once.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
It was in Passing. So yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
But Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis the whole crew. Janet Jackson.
That's one thing about the NBA. It allows you to
meet some of your the stars that you grew up
loving or wanted to be.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Like. The only person I haven't met that I want
to meet you is Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You're in LA. Haven't you seen him in a Laker game.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
No, I have not, and my wife has seen him
at a coffee shop plenty of times, but I don't
drink coffee, so.
Speaker 11 (17:17):
Since starting to coffee, and you can go meet him,
I know, right, who aside from Eddie Murphy, who is
somebody else you met along the way in the NBA
where you went?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Damn, I'm actually talking to this person.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Whitney Houston, you know, before she passed away. I met
her and she was so nice and she was talking
to me and Bruce Willis. I met Bruce Willis in
New York and I grew up a big Moonlighting fan.
So yeah, And it's so funny how when those people
they meet you, they talking to you like they know
you and they like fans of yours. So that's always
a big pound of back when those guys know who
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you are and they love you.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Okay, But when you're playing for the Lakers, do you,
you know, kind of take in everybody who's court side.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah, especially like when Halle Berry came to the game.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
We're all fighting to take the ball.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Hey, that's my job, not the way.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
She's like staring into the sun though. Back then, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I mean, it was so many people come, you know,
like I can't remember the name, but she was from
Days of Our Lives. I was the big Days of
Our Lives fan and she came to a game. She
played with Marlena on Days of Line and I met
her and it's like she really has a glow around
her like.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
She does the show.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, how was the atmosphere last night at the game.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
The atmosphere was great, man, You know, something about the
home opening for a Laker game has always fantastic.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
But the buzz was really crazy.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Everybody anticipating, you know, the Brinnie and Lebron moment when
they stepped on the court and everybody was looking at
me because I predicted. I said it's gonna be in
the second quarter. It's gonna be four to two minutes left.
And they looked at me, like, are we bet We're
gonna bet on anything else this year? Because you knocked
that right on the nail.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, it is bet online. Is Roberts joining us on behalf?
So check out bet online for updated NBA Title Conference
Division awards odds, plus updated win totals and players stats.
But I've said before and I had him going in
I ended him checking in it like seven minutes ago
in the second quarter. But I don't know how long
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he stays on the NBA roster here.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
What do you think happens.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I think it's all depending on when Van Doo gets
healthy and the other guys get healthy, because they're roster
is stacked, you know, they're full. And there's no disrespect
to him. It's just the fact that those guys are veterans.
They got a little bit more, you know, they a
little better than him, and he needs a little bit
more season you know. He's like when I watch him,
the one thing that I don't know if they looking
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at it, but his sense of urgency to get back
down to quote on defense, it's not how it should be.
It is great when he's on ball, but off the ball,
he kind of he doesn't pay attention to you know,
so someone sees that they can hit him with some lobs.
But other than that, he you know, everybody's going to
hate on him because they think that he didn't get
there deservedly.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
But I think the kid has a lot of.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Potential and he just needs to be you know, seasoned,
a little bit more season vet.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I think, you know, get him down to the
G League, let him find out what he does well,
let him be healthy or get healthier for an entire season,
and then you want to bring him up for like
the I don't know, Christmas Day game, whatever it is.
You can bring him up and send him back down.
Kind of a carrot dangling out there for him.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I think? So, I think that's perfect.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
You know, if you look at players around me, I
think one player that he reminds me is Gary Payton Junior.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
He's athletic.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
Like him, he's strong, and you know, you have to
find a niche you think about it. You know, Gary
Payton Junior is not a great score, but he can
d you up. He does he does all those things
that people don't want to do, like dive on the floor,
get extra rebounds, extra shots, and stuff like that. So
I think he can find a niche like that, he
can stay in his league for a minute.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, I've mentioned you know, focus on Dalton connect because
that's the guy who's going to be in the rotation.
He could be the best shooter deep shooter on the
team already, and that's the guy who's going to help
you not Bronnie. I know the novelty is there, but
what do you see with Dalton Connect?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
You know, I think I've said this from day one.
I thought Dalton Connect was the best player in the draft,
and I thought when you But the thing is, everybody
wants potential. You know. For me, I'm a type person.
I want it now. And you see Dalton Connect play.
He can give you something now. And I think the
Laker's gonna have to find a way to put him
on the court because if you watch, you know, you
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got Gabe Benson coming in from the Jackson Hayes and
all these people. I'm like, yo, man, this rookie something special,
and you got to play him. You got to throw
him into the fire early. And you see when he
came out there, he ran plays for him and this
day he doesn't. He doesn't run plays with Gabe Vincent.
He doesn't run plays well anybody else coming off that bitch.
So that's to tell you something right there. As a coach,
you got to play Dalton Connect because he's he's he's
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a shooter. You know, everybody talks about the guy, the
Rockets guy that's a shooter. But I think Connected is
a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He's Robert or the Lakers analyst for Spectrum Sports Net.
Is this Lebron's last year?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
No, Hey, Briddy's in the league now he gonna try
to play as mini as he.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Can with Lebron, with Broddie James.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
So it did the crazy part about when you watch
Lebron's game, it really hasn't changed in the last six years.
You know, I know, his his ability to play a
lot of minutes is not there, but still that when
he's on the court, he plays with the same force.
You know, you think about that baseline cut and then
he dunk. I'm like, dude, your head is still by
the rim. In my tenth year, I could badly get
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my head by nets and I'm sixteen. And so you
got to understand he still has a lot of bounce
in him and the love and the joy. And you know,
think about it, when you play sports, you come in
as a young man and you become you know, you
have that kid like love for the game. He's a
grown man forty years old. He's still has that kid
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like love, like as a twin of ye old. So
I expect him to be around for as long as
his bidy lets him.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, that's what I said when people said, oh, you know,
Lebron got his son drafted. Okay, If it means Lebron
continues to play and he's excited about playing, then I
don't view it as a negative. Now, if Bronnie's taken
a roster spot away from somebody who can truly help
this team, then I could see, you know, there would
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be some negative reaction there. But Bronnie is going to
be the twelfth man if he's even on the roster.
But if Lebron is still engaged, because these guys get
bored after a while, or you lose that enthusiasm you're
talking about, you know, that youthful attitude that he still has,
I can't see that's a negative. If I got a
guy still giving me twenty seven, eight and seven exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
And when you talk about, you know, the top twenty
players in the league, this dude has been a top
twenty player in the league for thirty.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Years, you know. So he's so great.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
And that's one of the things that people understand that
the mind, when the mind goes.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You know, you don't want to play no more.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
For me, you know, I had a sick daughter, my
kids were starting to play sports, they were starting to
be acting.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
It's like, I'm like, what do I want to want
to play basketball? Do I want miss?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
You know parts of their lives that happened with Brian.
I know he has two other kids, but he has
one kid he can go to work with every day.
He can try to get this kid to be an
elite athlete like he is. And so there's a different
type of joy and a different type of love, a
different type of push there that's gonna keep Lebron James
Senior in this league for about maybe three to four
more years.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
There's an award that I hate. You want to guess
what it is. I hate this award clutch player. I
don't know, no, because it's new.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
The Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh yeah, because there was nobody more impactful last year
in my opinion than Victor Wembenyama. Whether he blocked your
shot or he altered your shot. He could guard inside,
he could guard the perimeter. He could do that on
the same play where he could be inside and still
be guarding the perimeter. I know Rudy Gobert got it,
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but he's.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Not the defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I don't know what people.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I want to know who's voting for this defensive player
of the Year, because when you say Rudy Gobert, like, dude,
he can't even plan in the play house. Come on, man,
But I totally agree with you. I was just talking
about this earlist friends. I said, you think about it.
There's so many people that drive to the paint and
they's like they looking around he on the bench and
they won't shoot the ball. And that's the impact defense
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that he has. And people don't understand how important that is,
you think. But it hasn't been a player, not Shaq,
not Dream, not Patrick Ewan, not David Robbins, not Tim
Duncan that players were scared.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Of like that. There's nobody you look over your show,
not even My New Bowl.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
This is the only part I've ever seen what guys
are afraid to try to eat a challenge him. You
think about when we came in the league, that was
like a thing, you coming, Oh, Mark Eaton, be dunking
on him.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But it didn't work, got into your favorite.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Nobody's challenged him at all because they're too afraid of
that length in his ability to block shots.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, and I know I pick on Rudy Gobert, but
you're right. I mean they sat him down in the postseason,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Shat him down in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yes, because like just stomp.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It feels like if you have the most block shots,
you're the best defensive player. And that's like Michael Jordan
could have won Defensive Player of the Year every single
year if he wanted to.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
True.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yeah, you know, like with Kobe, Bruce Bowen, all these
guys who can play perimeter defense. And to me, that's
harder than blocking shot. You know, and I was a
shot blocker. You know, think about you sit back there,
you wait for someone bring it to you, and you
know they they come in, you blocked the shot.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
You know, are you really playing defense? Yes, you're playing defense.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
But the guys on the perim, like what eighty does
he can guard ones, he can guard doing guard five.
You know, guys like you know, Mike Bridges, mckil bridge.
These are defenders, you know. And to me, Drew Holliday,
you know, these are defenders. Rudy Gobert is not a defender.
He's a shot blocker, and it's defensive Player.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Of the Year.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Drew Holliday Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
You know, I think so.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I think so because this is the thing everybody when
you talk about the Hall of Fame, people.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Always look at how many points do this go? Dude?
Basketball is not about points. You know. The stupidest thing
that you know, one of your pet peeves is defense.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
But mind is two way player because basketball is your
basketball player. That means you play offense and defense is
that is the stupidest term I've ever heard. And so
for me, Drew Holliday can do it all and he
does what the team needs. You think about how bad
the Milwaukee Bucks missed him. You think about how much
the Celtics like, thank you for coming here. Because he's
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a game changer. He can control the offense. He puts
people in the position to succeed, and that's what this
game is about, helping your teammates to get to the
uptimate goal of winning a championship.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
How did the Celtics not repeat.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Injuries? That's the only way they don't repeat.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
You know, you think about if Presingias comes back healthy
and he can sell on the court, that makes him
that much more dangerous. And you think, these guys, you know,
it reminds me when when Steph didn't win the NBA
Finals MVP, he.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Was pissed off and came back that next year with
a vengeance.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
And I think, you know, looking at the first game,
I know it's just the first game, but JT looked
like he's coming out to let everybody know. He would
be my pick for MVP this year, me too, him
or SGA, because those two teams I think have the
best records in the East and West. And I think
also when you talk about Jason you talked about last year,
(28:31):
he was to me, he was disrespected. He had the
best record in basketball and nobody even talked about him
as MVP. And if you look at the history of
this game, that's one of the things you look at
best records and unless you do some incredible or average
triple double like Westbrook did, and he was very disrespected.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I thought, last year, is there a big man you
would take over Shank.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Had to It depends you give me two thousand, two
thousand championship Shack No, but if you give me a
longevity it probably either like dream of Tim Duncan you
know those two guys and I played with them, so
I know what I'm gonna get with them. I know
what I'm gonna get with Shaq, But that two thousand
Shack Championship, Shack MVP Shack was one of the most
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dominant players I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Tim Duncan told me a story about Kevin Garnett that
Kevin loved to talk trash, oh a lot of trash.
But Tim didn't talk trash at all. Tim didn't talk
you know.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
I got Tim to talk trash one time and it
was in practice, and it was it was before we
got ready to play Utah, and I was like, I
was like, this is why boozs be kicking.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Your book and He's like, you can't stop me. He
just went to work. I'm like, okay, Tim, I'm like
what I said, why don't you do that the booze?
And when we get in the game with you talk
you know.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
And then Pop actually started me that game and it's
like talk shit to it language and so we and
we had beat Utah in Utah in a minute. So
we went out and won that game. I'm looking at Tim,
I said, dude.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Where is that fire every game? Do I need to
cuts you out every game?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, is he underrated?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Tim? Yeah? I think when you have those quiet guys
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Like we don't show his highlight. There's no real highlight.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
This sory.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
That's why people won't excitement. And you think about Tim
you know, the bank shot. Nobody uses as boy. He blockshot.
He kind of walks with his head down, you know,
kind of unassuming for me, but he You know, in
the basketball world, when you talk about Dominic Biggs, we
talk about him because the dude was you know, he
was spectacular. He had a you know, he wasn't flashy,
(30:35):
He couldn't do any spectacular dunks. He was just basic,
you know, and people sometimes shy away from basic. And
I think for me, it's basic gets the job done.
You know, five championships, lads, he did a great job.
He's one of the best big men I ever played with.
You know, when you talk about top twenty five all time,
you got to throw him in there because he's a winner.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Well, he's probably banging on the top ten. I would
think with just winning five Steph Curry in the top ten.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
You know, it's weird because Steph is right there, and
I think about it is Steph.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
To me, I would put him in the top ten.
But my top ten.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
When you look at it, probably twenty people because it's
so many people that are equal, you know, and you
think about you got guys that don't get talked about,
like Clyde Drexel, he was great. You've got guys like
Joe Dumars that was great. You got you know, think
about he got through Larry Bird in it.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
But so it's so.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Many people that, you know, because of the athleticism, the
athletes now kind of push guys down, but still they're
still great. You know, the only guy I wasn't putting
my top twenty five is Charles Bark because he went.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
To Auburn before I let you go. You have to
place a bet on this team to win the West.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
When the West is gonna be Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Okay, you know, I think if you look what.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
They did this summer by adding a c Fresh and Hartenstein,
you know, you always add something to you if you don't
win a check, you add something to your team that
you really need that you're missing. And that's what they're missing.
A big that can get up and down and play
different guys and get them extra shots. But the athleticism
they have, the energy and enthusiasm and the way they
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love to play together.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'm betting no okac.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Great to talk to you again, Robert, Thank.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
You always, thanks for having me again.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
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Speaker 2 (32:46):
How many games tonight in the NBA? I have three games?
Are there more than that?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I got?
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Oh no, there's there's twelve, at least.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Twelve at least okay, all the big NBA games. I'm
being told the big games. The Bucks against the Sixers.
That's not a big game. I don't have Joe el
Embiid or Paul George my magic against the Heat. And
then the Suns against the Clippers. Worst game of the
night for you?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
For you?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Would you want to watch the Nets at the Hawks tonight?
Marto's Helena Nets at Hawks? What is it doing that for.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You, m You're not all over your your magic versus
the heat. No, no, this is the worst game.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, yeah, I'm watching. I'm gonna watch the magic. Yeah,
I believe in magic. Calves Raptors Calves. Remember the Calves
were my team a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, I was like, alright, man, then I had the Okay,
see thunder, I like the Rockets and I like Orlando
Rockets Hornets. Tonight, I that that would be interesting to me.
I could see, uh LaMelo ball is he is? He
officially he is?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
He is?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Okay, Read Shepherd, Yeah, I got it. I gotta see something.
Come on, Read, let's go. He had a couple of
games in the preseason where I'm like, pretty good summer league.
All Right, I gotta let's go. Let's see what you
can do. High draft pick, top five, let's go.
Speaker 13 (34:15):
Yes, Marv Memphi's Utah sounds pretty bad. Also, well, now,
Ja Morant, can Josh say that?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be curious. I'd be curious, Jomarant that
this could be interesting this year. They should be.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
They were a sexy team a couple of years ago,
sex two seed in the West at one point.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, yeah, it could be so the worst game to Yeah,
I mean Net's Hawks is that's dicey.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
Like if I were in the building, Like if it
were in the building I was in, I would walk
over and watch.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well, when I was at CNN, we were in the
same building as the Hawks, so you could, let's say,
you know, I was an hour for lunch or hour
for dinner. I would go over to the Omni and
I just walked down. You sit down there and you
watch them play. I remember the Jazz were in town
and just walked over, sat down for like forty minutes,
and then got back up and went back to work
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at CNN. It was great to have. I mean, that's
the only way I was going to go watch some
of those teams. But I was there when Dominique was playing,
when Doc Rivers was playing, and Twan Carr, Cliff Levingston,
John Battle. They had some fun they had. Now that's
a talented team that never won. When you're talking about
(35:29):
talented teams that never won, Atlanta Hawks with Dominique Le
magnavieq on, that was certainly up there.
Speaker 14 (35:35):
Yeah, Seaton, the Hawks kind of fumbling Trey Young well
when they had a guy there for a bit and
then they're like, h but.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I think he had like twenty seven and nine last year.
I mean it's kind of hard to have those kind
of numbers and people go, yeah, I don't know, like
he was a thing and then he wasn't a thing anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean he had his moment against the Knicks where he.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Beat the Nannicks and it was awesome, and then they
made fun of him going bald.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Which is also awesome. That was fun. That's that's exactly
what I want.
Speaker 12 (36:16):
They were in the Eastern Conference finals.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, against Philly. Weren't they four years ago?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
No?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
No, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But uh, Clint Capella still that yeah, Clint Hawks, Yeah,
getting the alley oops.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Yes, Joe Johnson and Josh Smid, No, I don't think
they're not.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
They have a Jalen Johnson for consistence.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Dalen Johnson Junior that there. Yeah, gotta have a JJ
on there. Gary in California, Hi, Gary, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 15 (36:45):
Good morning again? First long time fall eleven to fifteen.
I had a part of the face Challenge for uh
you okay, I truly believe well Tommy's going to be
(37:09):
called upon to pitch in the World Series, and he
will probably top Robert's sulder and said, hey, you need me,
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Okay, we have to speed it up a little bit.
Gary shot, yeah, yeah, we have a caller clock on.
Does anyone want a piece of that bet? Gary says, show, Hey,
Tony will pitch in the World Series. Todd, okay, Todd,
Todd is going to take you up on the bet.
That was quick, So Gary, we'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Gary's probably on hold for like ninety minutes, and then
he took ninety minutes to tell me what his bet was.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Let's go. Come on, no, come on, no, no, no,
We're not taking our time.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
He's through the day, easy, does it? This ain't sports
history calling.
Speaker 12 (38:03):
On this day in sports history?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
No, come on, own, speed it up?
Speaker 12 (38:07):
Oh sorry bad.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
In nineteen forty five, the Brooklyn Dodgers signed Jackie Robinson.
Dan Marino in nineteen eighty eight had five hundred and
twenty one yards three touchdowns in the game through sixty passes.
Speaker 12 (38:18):
Course against the Jets.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
Joe Carter in nineteen ninety three or the Blue Jays
became the only the second player to end the World
Series with a home run.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
So that's where I was on this date. How many
years ago?
Speaker 12 (38:30):
Nineteen ninety three, nineteen.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Ninety three, I was there in Toronto?
Speaker 12 (38:34):
Is that thirty one years?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's good, Matt, thirty one, man, I've been around a
long time.
Speaker 12 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Better than the opposite, though, than not being there, not
being around, oh, not being around.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
And then I went that off season, and then I
went to Joe Carter's house in Kansas City, and I
wanted I wanted to profile Mitch Williams, who gave up
the home run, and Joe Carter, who hit the home run,
on what their lives were like after that pitch. And
I just remember walking into Joe Carter's kitchen and I.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Said, Hey, where is the baseball? Where's that home run ball?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
He goes right there, and he points to a drawer
right by the stove, and I go, no, No, where's
the home run ball that you hit?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
He goes right there.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Todd, I'm not done with the story. And then he says,
how's that possible?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Why would you put it in a drawer? How's that possible?
Speaker 8 (39:31):
It's right there by the spatul Where do you think
I was gonna put it?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
It's not easy doing this. That's not your shoulder.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
Is the best thing going on right now?
Speaker 9 (39:41):
How do you catch with the dog?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
But then I say, okay, I open it up and
the ball rolls out and it's got like oven mits
in there, and I went, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
And he had given it to his wife, the home
run ball. Then hear the oven.
Speaker 9 (39:59):
That is just not possible that he would do that.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
What a better spot for the ball?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Thank you to come out.
Speaker 14 (40:04):
I do not believe you would possibly put them anywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Randy Johnson, the Big Unit's gonna join.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Us, the Big.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Unit and Mad Dog Russo.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
The game winning World Series homewin, don't put in the drawer.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
What did you learn? Todd?
Speaker 2 (40:17):
No, no, no, no. You don't even get to answer.
Seen would you learn today?
Speaker 14 (40:20):
I learned Robert Riy was a big Moonlighting fan. Shout
out Deirdre Hall too, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
I'm a Ross Saint Brown looked up to Kobe.
Speaker 12 (40:30):
Paul rob Manfred caught a break this year.
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