October 24, 2024 • 53 mins
Dan discusses "The Wall" at the Clippers new arena. Chris “Mad Dog” Russo shares his opinion on Bronny James’ debut. And baseball Hall of Famer Randy Johnson explains how he'd pitch to Shohei Ohtani and Aaron Judge.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Football coming up tonight, Vikings at the Rams. Rams getting
two and a half here, And as I said yesterday,
and I was told by a source over the weekend,
this could be a real tail tail game for the
Rams moving forward, the Rams as we know them? Will
there be changes if they lose? Will they be sellers?
(00:25):
Is there a chance Cooper Cup is traded? After that?
And I know that there was some chatter about maybe
Matthew Stafford being available. There was a story that came
out that maybe the Vikings were interested in him. I
think everybody has denied that, but I was told two
weeks ago, is Matthew Stafford going to be available if
the Rams are not in a race for the playoffs?
(00:47):
And then Cooper Cup, that name came up. And then
I talked to my source and I said, would they
trade them? Trade him to the forty nine ers. You know,
Tampa Bay lost Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, god went out
for the year. You got the Chargers. Who could use
a weapon. I mean there's a variety of suitors out there,
the Steelers as well, but just some of the things.
So it's it's a standalone game. But there's a lot
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more that could be attached to this depending on the outcome.
But the Vikings they are favored by two and a
half in Los Angeles. Los Angeles has been the epicenter
of sports, certainly with Opening Night with the Lakers with
Bronning and his dad, and then you have what's going
on with the World Series on Friday night. You have
this Rutgers against USC football game coming up as well
(01:33):
this week, Socibi do.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You say Rutgers USC as a feature?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah? Host the coast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the coast. Paul,
it's a big ten matcha Paul all An, A vintage. Yes,
that's an old school big ten MATCHA.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
A lot more juicy than you guys realize.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I know, you know, you'll be a facetious Paul Is.
I'm not Carlett Knight's Trojans.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That's going to be something.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's tomorrow night. I don't know which one I'm going
to watch. World Series, Suns, Lakers, Rutgers USC. Yes, do
we want to guess on that that game on Rutgers USC,
Like somebody from Rutgers.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Somebody from the News Tribune covering the local.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, New Brunswickataway Area.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, USC losers at the Coliseum to the Scarlet Knights.
Things are gonna get very messy if they're not already.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know, you heard it here first all that, Thank you, captain.
But you know my attention is going to be tonight.
What I'm going to watch is Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
It's funny too, because if your Rutgers going to USC,
You're like, hell, yeah, man, we're going to be in
California for a couple of days. La, this rules your
USC going to Rutgers. You're like, we got to go
to Piscataway.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, but this will this will be at the Coliseu.
It will be. It will be to say it's not
fair when you yeah, what what is the line on
that one?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
USC is favored by thirteen and a half.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Okay, Now, I know Rutgers football is better than it
has been in the path or they're a solid squad.
But if you're in southern California and you wake up
in the morning and you hear your team lost, USC
lost of Rutgers, that is unrecoverable, unrecoverable.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's't worry coverable.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yes, because you would be three and five in mid October.
The loss of Rutgers, which perception? What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Though? So you do you get embarrassed at home against Rutgers,
But what's the fallout.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That Lincoln Riley's on the clock.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I think he's on the clock, but you know he's
also on the payroll. They gotta get him a lot
of money to get rid of him. I don't from
what I was told that he's not on the hot seat.
And I was like, okay, you know he's an offensive
minded coach. We all know that. But you know the
game against the Scarlet Knights of Rutgers coming cross country? Lookout, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Bigger, New York, LA matchup Rutgers versus USC or Yankees Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Fair question.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay, well let me ask Tom Todd brought up USC
Rutgers wow earlier today about that's a big game.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm excited about that game. I know my brother went there.
But the Scarlet Knights, that's Greg Ciano choppin. You may
do some chopping in LA and could surprise some folks
at USCE. Everyone's talking about Rutors basketball and all of
a sudden, Records football slides in and causes Lincoln Riley
to be I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Everybody is talking about that.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
It's word on the street.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
No, no records is gonna be like in the Sweet
sixteen in basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well okay, but I have other things to worry about.
I got the Spurs against the Mavericks coming up tonight.
And you know what that means. Victor Wembnyama against Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So I mean they're guarding each other, They're just playing
against each other in the same.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So earlier this morning, about an hour ago, Paulie brought
up the game games that are coming up tonight, and
Fritzy goes, yeah, I'm looking forward to that matchup, Klay
Thompson versus Victor Wembenyama, and I go, they're not guarding
each other. In fact, do you think the ticket stub
is going to have Victor Wemby Victor Wembnyama against Clay
(04:57):
Thompson tonight?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
The graphics people should put that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, no, no, no, They would probably have Luca Lucas both of
them though, or Kyrie versus.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm disappointed you guys thought I meant that. I thought
they'd be guarding each other the weast.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You made it seem like that's the game that The
reason why we're going to watch this game is Victor
wem Ben Yama versus Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Right, because them both Ay're both gonna be on the court.
Clay's going to be now in a Maverick's uniform for
the first time.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
If I said it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
To I misspoke, But I think I know a little
bit more about the NBA than I think that Wenby
and Klay Thomps would be guarding one another.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
But that's okay, you guys gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Be You made it seem like that was the matchup,
Like the promo was going to be Victor wem Ben
Yama versus Klay Thompson. I was saying and elbowing each
other or my wrong on Marvin. Is that how it
was presented this morning?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I think it was because Fritzy goes Klay Thompson. He's
available tonight, right. I was like, Yeah, it's been hurt
a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I'm glad he's going to be actually playing in Game
one for his new team.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, he's got a guard, Victor web Benyama, so it's
gonna be tough. I hope he's healthy.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Should probably find someone else to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, So that's why we're kind of in a weird
mood today because well Todd for a couple of reasons there,
but Rutgers USC. I'm going to circle that one on
my calendar.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Take a peek at the baseball but you really want
to walk to work as USC.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, you stay on your phone. Lakers sons, Lakers sons
as well.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, Ston, I'm glad that you brought this up because
it is our first poll question for the day. If
you were a graphic designer working for the TNT, that game.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh I don't. I think you have to have your
best team on that one.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
If you were a graphic designer working for tn T,
who would you put on the poster for Spurs? Matt
Victor Wimbanyama or or and rather not or but and
Luca Kyrie or Clay or Mark Cuban Cubes?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah Cube, I'm going to guess Luca. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Just the iteam has a direct quote from Fritzy. I said,
you know one game to tune in tonight, Spurs at
Matt Fricaues. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to Wembama
versus Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
As if that's the that was the that was the quote.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I still don't think that necessarily means that they're guarding
each other. That's a different phraseology to me, and that's
where I may be mistaken.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Okay, so tonight it's Vikings Rams. Well, I'm sorry, tonight
it's the MAVs versus the Spurs. Then you have Vikings Rams,
Syracusean Pitts and College Football World Series tomorrow and uh
to a tongue of Ioloa returns to practice with the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I have a question.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Yes, I say that's gonna be a fun game tonight.
Sam Donald versus Matthew Stafford, do you think that. I
don't think one's gonna sack the other one. They're gonna
like try, No, Sam Donald versus Matthew Stafford. One's not
going to tackle the other one on the field.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Okay, they both play offers Klay Thompson and Victor Wembnyama
on the court at the same time. Yes, are Sam Donald?
It all looks for a little Matthew Stafford on the field.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Just the wording.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
One guarding the other.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
That's what you do.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You doubled down, used to take it quietly, and now
all of a sudden.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
I'm sicking.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's an L. Just take the L, I know, but
you double down and then you get a couple of
l's in there. You're L McPherson.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, Yes, I have the official Thursday Night football promo
from Is that on Apple? Amazon Prime? Yes, the picture is.
It's not Justin Jefferson, it's Sam Darnold and Matthew Staff.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Kind of like Klay Thompson and Victoria.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
But then I have a secondary one where it's Justin Jefferson,
who definitely won't be covered by Matthew Staff.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
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Speaker 5 (09:20):
Let's see we also have up there other than that
one which is going up right now, this is from
the t dubs. Might as well keep the train rolling
if the product is bad. Would you still go see
a team played just because they're new in a new arena,
Yes or no.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I have done that. I did that with the Pittsburgh
Pirates when they moved into their new stadium. I was
in Pittsburgh, got tickets, walked across the bridge because I
wanted to see that stadium and I loved it. The
game wasn't good, but the views of downtown Pittsburgh, everything
they did with that, they did it right in my opinion.
(09:56):
So yeah, I have done that before. Where I'd go see,
you know, I mean I went to Cowboys Stadium. I
wanted to see. Is this what we're headed? You know,
the direction we're headed into with stadiums and jumbo trons
and everything that bells and whistles, and hopefully we're not.
But what the Clippers did with their new arena is
(10:20):
it would be It'll take away from I think how
bad the team is going to be. I think the
experience that's there and the opposing players. Kevin Durant and
Devin Booker were talking about it that this is a
true home court advantage, something they had never seen before,
and the Clippers did lose a close game to the
Phoenix Suns. Here's Kevin Durant, uh and the question to
(10:42):
Kevin Durant and his answer anthy much.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
It liked to play in this building incredible.
Speaker 11 (10:47):
I loved it last I absolutely loved the water. They guys, yeah,
I says, saying I knowing the playoffs, and you know,
once people get more and more comfortable with the arena,
it's going to be insane here. So I always love
when lou venues go up in our league. Is always cool,
always sets the standard for what they come down the line.
Speaker 12 (11:07):
You know.
Speaker 11 (11:08):
So Steve is doing great job this franchise.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Kevin Durant effusive there talking about the Clippers and Steve Balmer.
Twelve of his twenty five points came in the fourth quarter,
went into overtime. James Harden is the only thing to
see so far with the Clippers, says he had a
pretty good night. He had twenty nine, twelve rebounds and
eight assists. But you know, the wall is what they
(11:31):
talk about and there's certain requirements of being there on
the wall there, but it is a two billion dollar arena,
which is nothing to Steve Balmer, and he's really kind
of set the standard here if you're building an arena.
It's like when Camden Yards opened up and you're like, godly,
(11:52):
is that awesome? It was new, but it was old.
It had retro. You had the warehouse there, the fences
were you know, six feet high.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It was downtown revitalization on the waterfront there. They did
a great job with that. It's weird how we're trying
to get you know, it's modern, but you want old
school like Fenway and Wrigley. I'm you know, thrilled that
they're still kept those buildings because Yankee Stadium got torn
down Old Yankee Stadium to basically replicate old Yankee Stadium
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a few blocks away. But I love the fact that
they kept it with that feel of of old, you know.
And I had gone to Metropolitan Stadium. I was there
for the last game the Orioles played, and that was
a terrible ballpark. Great players, great franchise, but that was
not a good friend, you know ballpark. But Camden Yards,
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that was kind of like ushering in the Hey, if
you're going to build a stadium, this is what you
need to do, and that might be the case with
what the Clippers have done with you know, the into
it Dome. Also, if you miss back to back free throws,
everybody gets Chick fil a sandwiches. There. So Durand shoots
eighty eight from the line. He misses two free throws
and people are going crazy and he's like, wait, what's
(13:10):
going on here? And then he realized he missed back
to back free throws. Everybody got Chick fil a sandwiches. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
And the wall has a lot of restrictions. I'm looking
at the official Clippers website. You know, the typical of
no profanity. But you get to enter the stadium a
little earlier the normal fans, and they funnel you into
the wall area. It's like a fan zone. But you've
got to be a fan of the Clippers. If you
are seen wearing any other NBA team's gear, you can't
go into the wall.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Things like that. You have to be an all pro
Clipper gear.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, but how does that work? If I have a ticket,
I go in and I have a son's jersey.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
On, they have a wallguard.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I know, but I got that's my ticket.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
They're not They will physically not let you into the
wall area. Even if you have a ticket for the wall,
but you're wearing opposing teams merchandise, it's on the ticket
where that.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You buy feels like a Yeah, I'm not saying this
about you, but if you are a Suns fan and
you buy a ticket in the wall knowing that that's
what that is, you're a massive loser.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Fair and it says that in the thing.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
No you are say that, you know language, go in
there and be a gigantic loser.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Fifty one uninterrupted rows of seats. The first thirteen rows
are filled with Clipper fans, diehard fans. They vetted them
by the franchise beforehand to get those seats. And the
first thirteen rows are expected to stand and chant for
the entire game. So that's your atmosphere. And Devin Booker
and Kevin Durant talked about a collegiate like atmosphere that
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it felt like and that's what you want. There are
a lot of times, you know where I've gone to
arenas and they have something on the jumbo tron to
make you clap or make you cheer, or there'll be
music constantly. Everybody cut their hands. Oh, don't tell me
what to do, yes, but that's what they're trying to do.
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And you never have to do that at college basketball,
like at Duke, you could never think that they would
go and come on, get on your feet. It'd be like,
we're on our feet, we never sit down. Yes, there
are that whole idea of the wall.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
There's like soccer stadiums all over the world that have that,
Like Liverpool have the cop which is like at anfield,
very famous fan area. They're usually located right behind the goal.
And yeah, it's like where like the supporter sections sit.
I think Minnesota United they have one. There's a lot
of places that do that. It's super effective.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the Premier League does have the diehard fans that
do have special access or they give them something extra,
like what the Clippers are doing is.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
That yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like if you go in there,
if you're gonna go sit in the supporter section, then
you have to be a fan of the team. And
then they'll have a supporter section for the other team
and they're usually separate, rated and they usually have to
go in different entrances just so there's not any issues.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, I think you know you're you're trying to get
people to go to games because watching a game at home,
they've made it so good, surround sound, the quality of
the TV. It's like, wait a minute, what were we doing?
What were we thinking? The TV experience is so good
that you don't want to go to a game or
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you if you are given the choice, you might say,
you know what, I'm not going to fight the crowd,
you know, to go and have an experience. That's what
it's all about. Going to a ballpark and that first time.
I think we all remember the first time you went
to a baseball game or a football game. That just
the smell of it, the you know, kind of the
feel of you know, being in this environment. Though, And
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good for the Clippers. I don't think they're a good team.
You know, you've got Kawhi out for a while. That's
James Harden's team, and that's not necessarily a good team
thing because the West is loaded.
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
Christopher mad Dog Russo, host of mad Dog Unleashed on
Sirius XM channel eighty two also brings the high heat
on MLB Network and contributor to First Take on ESPN.
You gotta love this World Series. This is right up
your alley. This is old school. You're going to get
the entire Dodger infield probably on the show.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I Ron say, good morning, Danny.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Ron say, wait, wait, did you give any thought to
your hair today?
Speaker 9 (17:40):
I know I didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I know that time. I wait, but your wife helps you,
doesn't she?
Speaker 9 (17:46):
You know, she's away right now. My children on the
West Coast, so I don't have and I can't ask
my daughter Kira to do my makeup, so osresot. I
came up here, and I know that you guys put
it up last time. I look, but I mean I
figured out what the heck for you. I just want
to come on and chat. I did have Ron say
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on yesterday at the top of the show. And you know,
partly Fernando who passed away, and partly because of those
Yankee Dodgers series, and he was still very aggravated when
Reggie Jackson stuck out his hip. You remember that in
game four of the seventy eight World Series had changed
the whole game. Dodgers dropped two games to one at
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the time they ended up losing in six games. It
was still ticked off by that. But you know the
amazing thing about this World Series when you think about it, Dan,
there's two things. One, you know, they've been in the playoffs,
these two franchises before this year twelve times at the
same time together, and this is the first time in
thirteen they both made the World Series, which I find
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interesting since nineteen eighty one, and I find that interesting.
And the second thing that's interesting here Edmonton when I
lost to Florida, what are you gonna do? They had
a great year? Dallas when I lost the Celtics, do
they had a great year. You know, most of the time,
if you get to a Super Bowl, if you get
to an NBA Final, you get to a World Series.
The Mets had a great year, The Guardians had a
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good year. Not the case in this World Series. The
loser because of their payroll, Because of the fact the
Yankees haven't won in fifteen years, the Dodgers only won
that pandemic in forty years. You can make the argument
the loser year is going to be bitterly disappointed. So
I think that makes for a fascinating World series, and
I also think it's very close. You can make a
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case of the Dodgers, you can make case of the Yankees.
I don't think there's a prohibited favorite in this World Series,
so they should have length and drama.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
We had the commissioner on yesterday and I said he
deserved a victory. Lamp I think baseball had a really
good year. If you look at how we were starting
the year with Otani with the gambling situation, and then
you end up with Dodgers Yankees in the World Series,
how would you rank the season that baseball had excellent point?
Speaker 9 (20:00):
You know, they had drama late in the year with
the wild card. You know, Oltani has their record performance year.
Judge it's fifty something home runs. They would never admit it,
but Yankees and Dodgers is better than Guardians and Mets.
So from that standpoint, they got drama there. You know,
they had a very good performance at the rick Wood
Stadium when Willie Mays passed away. They with the game
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down there in Alabama where Willie played, So that turned out.
Do they do a great job at that field, the
Dreams and you know the Williams Port games. You know
they do an excellent job of that. I agree with you, Danny,
and I think you're the expert with this. Last year
the World Series with Arizona and Texas, they didn't do
that well. You know, nine to ten million the average.
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I would think this World Series, if it goes length deep,
I got to figure what fifteen eighteen million on the average.
You would be the better rate judge of that because
you know the ratings game better than I do.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
What you thought.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I hope that you're approaching fifteen million. I hope that
that's sort of where we start. You can't ask for
a better matchup because you have you know, you have Otani,
you have the Dodgers, you have the Yankees, and you
have a judge, and you know this is worldwide too.
When you bring in Otani, now it's worldwide. Now. I
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know you don't get credit for those ratings in Japan,
but this will be a monstrous rating as well. But
it's good for baseball that more eyes are on this.
I think there's a younger demo watching. I think the
game now it's sped up. Now, there's movement, stolen bases
are back. It just feels like there's a lot of
momentum there, and I know we're going to go to
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the automatic balls and strikes here, and the commissioner said
that in the next four years we're going to have
some version of that. I don't And he even said,
you got to get past the first month when you
have changed, whether it's the size of the bases or
the pitch clock, once you get past the first thirty day.
Nobody brought up the pitch clock. Nobody's know about a base,
(22:02):
none of that.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Now we accept it, and I think the big key,
the big jump is going to be automatic balls and
strikes over the next couple of years.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Be interesting if they do a challenge system with that,
or if they actually have the automated scenario.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That I think he talked about, there would be a
challenge scenario attached to this.
Speaker 9 (22:21):
Yeah, so I mean that will be interesting. And I know, listen,
I don't love that. But okay, they want to go
use technology for it, let them do it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But you're a tennis fan, Chris, you want to get
the calls right. They've mastered it. That's I mean, can
you like it in tennis and not like it in baseball?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Fair point?
Speaker 9 (22:41):
The fair point, I guess you could make that argument.
I mean, in tennis, you also can make an argument
that a line call is much more significant than it
would be a ball and strike call on a second
in it that's true. I mean, you can make that
argument that the decision with line calls from a three
or a five set match are more important than a
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ball and strike call on the bottom of the third.
So that's the argument I would make. And I also
don't want a huge delay, but I understand that I
do like the human element. See, the other thing is
there is an apple, there's a there's a there's some
charm to the umpire with balls and strikes. There's no
charm to a lines person making a call. So I
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think that So I'm not in love with it. But listen,
I can't argue with the scenario, with the situation with
the pitch, with the pitch clock, and it moved quickly
on everything else. But I think a very very good
World Series. I think the big edge the Yankee saff
Danny is they got a better starting rotation. Yeah, I mean,
I got five or six pitchers. The Dodgers don't really
have that. Dodgers have other advantages, but the Yankee advantage
(23:47):
in the rotation to me, gives them a little ledge.
Now I could not. I would not be shocked if
the Dodgers won. Here's the thing I would be shocked at.
I would be very surprised if this goes in less
than six games. I can this going to be a
ball game A week from fine night, Game six at
Dodger Stadium. Somebody's up three to two, I would say that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
We're talking to Christopher mad Dog Russo you were doing
high heat yesterday on MLB I think yesterday this week,
and you had Brian Cashman on the Yankee GM. I'm
going to play your question and then here's his answer.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
Give me your thoughts here fun of getting back and
winning a pennant after a fifteen year I don't want
to say drought, that's not fair. But you want to
say what I'm saying with the gap? How about being
a pennant?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
How does that mean to you?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
It means a lot.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
And I hate the fifteen year thing because it doesn't
It completely forgets some discounts that some other organization cheated
us when we were all the way in the end.
You know, if you knew what was going on, I
don't think they would be your dancing at that during
that time thing, I think we would have been advancing.
So I hate that fifteen year thing because I don't
think it accurately reflects history.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, is Brian being fair to the word cheating?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
It's always nuts. First off, Brian's for getting two other
about four things. The Astros beat the Yankees in twenty
and fifteen. The Astros beat the Yankees in two thousand
and nineteen. The Astros beat the Yankees in two thousand
and then they beat him again two years ago in
four straight games. So the Astros eliminated the Yankees in
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three other rounds in three other years. Number two, if
you be fair about it, what did the Yankees hit
in that series against Houston? They hit about one sixty.
What did the Yankees hit with runners in scoring position
in that well in that seven game series, they hit
about one eighty five. I understand he's frustrated. I understand that.
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You know, maybe there was a scenario where the Yankees,
you know, you can I know the Astros shooting is
a is a joke and they should have been punished
as they were. But remember in Game seven, the Yankees
pitched C. C. Sabbathia. I mean, he was old and
he was shot at that point of Hall of Famer, So,
I mean, it's not like the Yankees pitched, you know,
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Whitey Ford and for someone god the reason, he gave
up eight runs in the first in it. I know
the Yankees feel that way. I know the Dodgers feel
that way. The Dodgers in the World Series lost that
year in seven games.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
They had.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Dodgers lost two games at home that year in the
World Series at the Astros cheat in Dodger Stadium, the
addfields also that year in the World Series, in Game two,
they trailed and they buried Jansen in the ninth inning
to win the game. So well did the Astros chet
when he happened when the Dodgers had a blown safe.
I understand Bryan's frust. Jason, he's a great general manager.
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I think that's a little unfair to pin the seventeen
loss on the idea that the Yankees were jobbed. When
the Yankees in that World Series in Houston hit one fifty,
they hit one fifty in twenty runs in four games
they lost two nothing to one. Erlander beat him, So
I think it's a little misleading when the Yankees bring
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that up, and it's still sore as you can say.
The Yankees are still ticked off about the seventeen World Series,
about the seventeen Alcs.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I didn't see this that I read it where you
kind of dismiss the Bronni Lebron James concocted scratch can What.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
A waste of time that is? Yes, I think that's
so stupid. That is so dan, that is so artificial,
that is so I mean, come on, he had one
rebound in three minutes. He's going to be in the
G League in about a week. You know, they listen.
Lebron is a wonderful player, and I understand that Lakers
are trying to make sure that he is motivated and
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he's galvanized and it meant something to him. So I
understand that. But I walked around town all the time.
I did not have one person tell me, wow, did
you see that Bronni played with Lebron last night? The
American sports fan could care less. Let's be fair and
don't compare it to Griffy. I looked it up when
Ken Griffy played with his son with Seattle. You know,
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he hit three to zero six that year, and he
and one year and then another year he had a
three eighty batting average. Griffy could still hit when he
was forty one years of age. Bronni's not an NBA
player right now. Olakers did this to pacify Lebron, which
I understand. He's the second greatest player of all time.
It meant something to him, Okay, but don't try to
convince the American sports fan that this is a big
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deal that Lebron played with his kid and it's the
first effort, because I think it's fake. That's my take.
I know a lot of people disagree. That's my take.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay, your son's just starting out in the business. He
doesn't warrant being on a big stage. But let's say
you say to management, I'd like to do a radio
show with my son on Serious XCM.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Well, I wouldn't say that, but I understand what your
point is. I wouldn't say that because these jobs are
very difficult to get and I think that that advantage
of him wouldn't be be unfair, So I would not tell.
You know, bosses, hey do me a favor. Make sure
Colin Russo gets on Serious and does a once a
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week show with me.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Way to God.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
You can tell anybody that in West com I wouldn't
say that. And I'll say this, and I'll say this
right now. Well, I won't say that because that will
get me in trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Your wife's out of town. You can't get in I
say it.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I'll say it, Colin Well, on a radio perspective, he
is better at what he does right now, then Bronnie
is what he does, has that, I'll say that all
sorts of confidence. Okay, I just think to me it
was You don't think that was a little artificial.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, yes, yes, the whole draft was artificial.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Okay, so you agree with yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But I still think it was pretty cool that they
were able to pull this off. Now, Bronnie is a
g lead player, and but this is this was just
a Lebron If it keeps Lebron engaged, Chris, yeah, I
understand he's one of the top ten players in the
game at age twenty. Yes, you're two years in better
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me means that he's going to be excited still playing.
If I'm a Laker fan or the NBA, like, I
want Lebron still in the game playing at a very
high level at some point. Excellent point, and Bronni should go.
This is what I think is going to happen. Bronnie's
twelfth man. He got in. He he'll get seasoned in
the G the G League, and then they'll bringing up,
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probably for the Christmas Day game. Like I think they'll
pick spots to bring him up, let him play a
little bit, and then send him back down. That's what
I would hope. I Dalton connect is the rookie that
we should be talking about.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
And he's good.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
James, I agree.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
So so your point is you're okay with it because
it's good for the Lebron and what's good for Lebron
is good for the game, which means is good for us.
That's where you come down on this.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, because he didn't play that long, I think it
was all right. We'll put him in. It's kind of
a like a ceremonial first pitch.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Well, they'll make it historical. Then don't say, wow, this
is the.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
First places don't like the Griffies. I agree with you.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Don't make it historical. If if your point is, hey, listen,
Lebron's earned this, and that's your point, that's fair. I'll
give you that. But don't make this some unbelievable event
that the sports fans got to pay attention to because
because they're pacifying Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, but you work part time for a network that
makes this bigger than what it needs to be.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
I agree, I agree, and that is why yesterday part
time is a little strong. Then you're you're a ESPN.
I'm on there at two hours a week to give
them to help Stephen Eddie. I mean to say that
I'm an esp employees a little strong.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
But do you have ESPN? I d no, I don't. Okay,
all right, then you're not an I can.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Get into Disney World with a discount that it passaged me.
Now I tell you a little secret I told him yesterday.
I said, guys, listen, I'll play the You know, this
is how I feel about Ronnie. If you don't want
me to get into this, because if it's gonna bother people,
all lay low and to Stephen, as Krety said, Chris,
you say what you have to say. If you get pounded,
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who cares? We all get pounded on first, Dad, say
what you have to say. So that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, I know, but that's where I couldn't do it anymore.
And I did it when I was there where they'd say, hey,
you got to go Duke North Carolina basketball, you gotta
talk Yankees, Red Sox and you know you guys are
told here's topics there and the amount of times that
you can create. Now everybody's doing this. What's the cowboy
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angle today?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (32:35):
I know, Doc Prescott, But I love when you fight
back because you're gonna stand, You're gonna speak to more
people instead of playing the hits like they do.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Like, Well, here's what I would say, and I'm pat
myself on the back. This is just me telling you
because you and I have been together and known each
other for a very long time, is what I would say.
How many people? And I didn't do this on purpose.
I just did this because this is how I felt.
How many people are gonna go on ESPN, no matter
what the show and not the idea that I've seen
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too much of Jason Kelsey. How many people are going
to do that? Yes, because he was all of that
Atlanta Philadelphia game.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean that was that was not good.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
That was too much. Let's be fair. Yes, right along, Danny,
I'm a runner, a.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Wround no, but Steven a going to a Knicks playoff
game and you would have thought that he was playing.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
I said that yesterday bad I said, Steve, how about
a T shirt?
Speaker 14 (33:33):
That?
Speaker 8 (33:38):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Most importantly, everything's great, everything's great.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
That's a good spot with Manford. That's a good spot
with Manford.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, And you know, I like him, he's a good guy.
I like him. I did. I haven't liked everything he's done.
But you know what it's like David Stern. I really
loved Stern. We had battles, but you know what, I thought,
at least he would listen. I thought at least he
was honest with me. And that's all I can ask
for when you have these like the commissioner Goodell doesn't
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come on the show. The other commissioners come on, and
I feel like I can say to Adam Silver, this
is wrong, or you got to change the all NBA
don't make it. You know, positions, it's positionless. Basketball is positionless.
And he changed that, and so.
Speaker 9 (34:25):
I had some influence with that.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I do appreciate that. All Right, I gotta go, and
you need to comb you here. You got to comb
your heart comment. Thank you dog. That's Christopher mad Dog
Russo be sure to catch the live edition of The
Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. He's
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Randy Johnson joining us on behalf of direct TV, where
fans can catch all of their sports world series NFL, NBA, NHL,
all satellite free. The bird Ballpark campaign, launched earlier this year,
has been an acknowledgment by the Baseball Hall of Fame
Randy Johnson joining us on the program. Where are your
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cy Young's?
Speaker 14 (35:12):
Uh, one's a door stop here in my office, and
the others are throughout the house. One's a paper way
to hear on my desk, and one is a doorstop,
and then the other two or three or somewhere, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Let me let me see the one on your desk there.
Speaker 14 (35:32):
Uh, it's not it's not viewable right now because I'm
talking with with my desktop computer.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Oh you can't lift that up and just hold it
and show it to us?
Speaker 14 (35:41):
No, Yah?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Can I have one of them?
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes, thank you, Yes.
Speaker 14 (35:50):
As soon as you as soon as you personally get
off the disabled list.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I understand you had shoulder surgery.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yep. Yeah, when's the last time you had shoulder surgery?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Uh?
Speaker 14 (36:00):
Well, I tore my rotator cuff my last year in
San Francisco and I just let it scar over. I
never went and had surgery, and that's the.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
Way my career ended.
Speaker 14 (36:14):
And so but I have had knee replacement surgery last
year in November. A lot of wear and tear on
my landing leg, and I liked it so much that
surgery part of it that I'm going back next week
and having them clean up scar tissue I had because
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just because I liked the meds that they give me.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I had the knee done a couple of years ago,
and it's one of those where you go, why didn't
I do this sooner? Because they they got hips and
knees down shoulders, they don't have down to an exact science.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (36:52):
Well, you know, I've been retired for about fourteen years, Dan,
And when you're playing, you've got youth in and you
got trainers and doctors and things like that that you know,
the aches and pains don't seem to show up as much.
But when you get away from the game, you're removed
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from it fourteen years, the aches and pains, and the
injuries seem to circle back and they let you know
that they're still here. So I hope you get up
the disabled US soon because someone will be come calling
for you for your free agent year this year.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, if I was only a left handed pitcher, you know,
I got a couple of random questions here. Why is
it still a big deal when a left handed batter
has to face a left handed pitcher, Like, oh my god,
what an advantage?
Speaker 14 (37:41):
Like why don't they talk about right handed pictures face
a right handed hitter?
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Well, I don't know. That's a good question. I'm going
to have my staff work.
Speaker 14 (37:49):
On that question and hopefully we can get the answer
before we're done here.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But haven't we evolved where it's not a novelty Where
you go, we don't see left handers very often, I
would think with.
Speaker 14 (38:01):
I think it's just a novel idea to talk about it,
because there's not that many left handed pitchers in baseball.
There's not that many left handed people generally in the world,
let alone in sports, and so I guess it's just
kind of a novel idea.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
How would you pitch to Otani carefully? I still watch seriously.
Speaker 14 (38:22):
I mean, you know, and Soto and Judge, I mean
these people that you know. And I faced a lot
of big home run hitters, you know, for twenty two years.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
I gave up a lot of home runs.
Speaker 14 (38:34):
I don't know where, you know, I gave up four
hundred and something home runs.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
And we walk me through this. Otani's at the plate,
let's say first and bat against you well.
Speaker 14 (38:45):
And I've seen I've seen he pulls off the ball
a lot, and so I would probably be very careful
pitching any left hander down and in. The swing plane
for a left handed hitter is usually down and up,
where as a right handed hitter usually has a more
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level swing plane. If you throw a ball, if you
look at a lot of home runs hit by a
left handed hitter, the ball is usually down and in
because that's the swing plane for a left handed hitter,
whereas a right handed hitter out over the middle of
the plate. The swing plane is more straight across, sweeping
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across home plate. But I would be very careful with them.
I would start off, whether it was a ball or strike,
letting him know that I'm pitching in, get him off
the plate, and then I would try to elevate pitches.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
I wouldn't pitch down and in.
Speaker 14 (39:42):
I would elevate, but I know he can hit a
ball up too as well, and then I would work
them down and.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
A way, what about Judge, Judge.
Speaker 14 (39:52):
I would pitch like a Frank Thomas someone like that.
I've made mistakes to Frank and the ball still orbiting somewhere.
But but I would get ahead, hopefully hopefully, and then throw
my breaking ball down and in, and hopefully I wouldn't
hang it because if I did, he's going to hit
at six hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
If I would have told you your rookie year that
you would win five cy Youngs, what would you have said, I.
Speaker 14 (40:20):
Would have had you administer to some kind of pee
test or drug test. I don't think that would have.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (40:29):
You know, a lot a lot happened, uh, and it's
well documented. After I'd you know, got together and and
uh talked to Tom House and Nolan Ryan. You know,
that was really a pivotal and turning point of my career.
I had had a lot of pitching coaches in the
minor leagues up to that point, uh, and I'm very
thankful for all of them, but none of them really
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had that one little thing where it got me over
the hill and really got my you know, uh, consistency
with my mechanics. Having a conversation with them was you know,
a fifteen minute conversation down the in the bullpen, Tom
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House talking to me, watching Noel and Ryan do what
Tom House is talking and then and then it was
really up to me to you know, go out there
and do that and work on it. It was the
middle of the season when we had that conversation. Uh,
and then it was you know, a matter of me
working on this. And when you've been doing something wrong
or you know your way and now all of a
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sudden you're trying to change something, it's not easy. It's
just like you know, I had hitters tell me that
I was tipping my pitches, and you know, I would
fan my glove on a breaking ball and I would
squeeze my glove on a fastball, and hitters, Wow, when
you're looking at me getting ready to deliver, it's just
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that fraction of a second that they need to determine
whether what's coming. And evidently I was doing that. I
would see it after they would tell me. But you
know what, I talked to lots of Hall of Fame pitchers,
and they said that they were doing it. It's not
the easiest thing to change, even though you want to,
because you don't want to go out. You might as
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well just say, hey, fastballs coming, kind of like.
Speaker 8 (42:20):
You're throwing batting practice.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
But yeah, I mean, I just think changing things, whether
it's mechanics, you know, it's just difficult. But you know
I was able to do that, and then it was
early enough of my career and then and then really
reap the benefits of having those conversations with Nolan and Tom.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
But what kind of picture would you be today? Let's
say you know you're ready to be in the major leagues,
But how would baseball use Randy Johnson?
Speaker 8 (42:55):
I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 14 (42:58):
I think the only picture that would probably be still
really special as he was when he played, because he
was so good. He would be that same kind of
pitcher in today's game. I don't think is Greg Maddox
people like that. I don't think a power pitcher like
myself or Pedro or Roger in today's game would be
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looked at in the same regards as we were in
our era. I think because velocity is more prevalent in
today's game, I think hitters can hit more velocity, high
velocity pitches. It's coming out of your starting pitchers, coming
out of your bullpen all the time. And I just
think they're adjusted to do it more now than they
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were back in the nineties. Win maybe a handful of
people through the upper nineties, you know, ninety five to
one hundred, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I'm talking to Randy Johnson, Hall of Famer and joining
us on behalf of DirecTV the bird Ballpark campaign. We
got one of those that you sent to me. That
thing still, I mean, I was gonna say it lives on.
The bird doesn't live on, But just you blasting a
bird in spring training twenty three years ago, Dan, and.
Speaker 14 (44:14):
And that seems to be running into anybody you know
here there. That seems to be the highlight of my
career or what they may remember.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
And so it was a great h It's been a
great partnership with direct TV.
Speaker 14 (44:30):
They used their Direct TV satellite dishes in mimicking these
these bird ballparks, and so it was a lot of
fun to be a part of that. And they're going
to bring one now to the Hall of Fame. And
so I think more there'll be more exposure and it's
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just been a great campaign, a lot of fun and
you know, Dan, for more information on on streaming DirecTV
Satellite free, go to DirecTV dot com.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Look at you being a salesman. You're a you're a
regular Peyton Manning.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
Did you oh yeah, sure?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Did you go to USC for baseball and basketball? I
see you got your Trojan Henna baseball and basketball.
Speaker 14 (45:20):
Well, let's be honest, Dan, I couldn't really jump, and
I didn't start playing basketball until my freshman year in
high school.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
Uh. But the story is the.
Speaker 14 (45:34):
When I got to high school being a freshman, I
was probably around you know, six eight, six nine then
maybe about one hundred and sixties hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
If you can.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Imagine intimidating, very intimidating.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
Yoh yeah, sure.
Speaker 14 (45:53):
Uh. My pe teacher was also the basketball coach and asked,
because there wasn't a lot of you know, tall people
at my high school, he asked if I had any
interest in playing basketball, and I said, well, I've never
really played organized basketball before. You know, I played Pop
Warner football, was a quarterback in a tennis and obviously baseball.
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I would try, but I don't know much about, you know,
my footwork and playing basketball. So we worked at it
in pe classes and then I went out and played
three years of high school and I actually got offered
scholarships to play basketball.
Speaker 8 (46:33):
And that's not to say that I was.
Speaker 14 (46:34):
Going to be any good, but you know, it just
goes to show for.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
Anybody that's listening right now.
Speaker 14 (46:41):
You know, if you, you know, put your time and
effort into something, you never know what will come from it.
And so, but the USC thing was strictly baseball, Okay,
I think, but you know how you know, scholarships work.
There's a limited amount of scholarships in sports, and there
probably was even less or more of a little bit
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more back in the eighties. So I think they just
kind of said it was baseball slash basketball.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
In nineteen ninety two, Randy Johnson led the league in
strike ounce walks, batters hit by pitch, and wild pitches. Congratulations,
thank you, you were new to us.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
That's a record, they were. Surely they would be broken.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Nobody wants to break that. Did you ever feel bad
when you hit somebody?
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Not always no.
Speaker 14 (47:34):
But you know what a lot of times it was
my breaking ball, my slider that and I would hit
their back foot.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Okay? Yeah, But how many guys do you think you
hit on purpose in your career?
Speaker 8 (47:47):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
How many guys do you think you hit on purpose?
Speaker 8 (47:50):
And I don't know, Dan? Where do I rank as
your staff right now?
Speaker 14 (47:55):
My staff is out on the front sidewalk right now
because I overworked them and pay them.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
So that's your staff?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Okay? Where you rank on hit by pitches?
Speaker 9 (48:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (48:05):
So where do I rank?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
All right? PAULI do you know how many is that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (48:09):
I'm checking.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
It's easier to find batter's hit by pitch, But Randy
Johnson I haven't hitting one hundred and ninety people in
his career, which is up there.
Speaker 14 (48:18):
But where does that rank? Is there any pitcher there's
thrown hit batter more than that we're.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Checking right now.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I gotta believe Nolan Ryan hit more guys than you, y,
I would think, and probably on purpose too, probably half
of them. He might have been the meanest guy. Him
and Bob Gibson might have been the meanest guys I
ever saw in the mound.
Speaker 14 (48:37):
Yeah, I obviously I got to see Nolan pitch. I
actually even pitched against him.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Wait, you have more? Does he have more hit by
pitches than Nolan Ryan?
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Randy Johnson one ninety Nolan Ryan one fifty eight?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
What is wrong with Nolan? Damn? I think I could
get Nolan Ryan throwing ninety miles an hour if I
gave him six weeks. Randy, I don't doubt it.
Speaker 14 (48:59):
Don't you know?
Speaker 8 (49:01):
He's just he's one of those.
Speaker 14 (49:04):
Truly pitchers, athletes that come along once in a lifetime,
not once in a decade or whatever, you know, just
once in a lifetime. You won't you know that movie
that facing Nolan? Uh, you watch the end of it.
And when when you're usually rolling the credits for a movie,
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you know the names and all that stuff, those are
all of his accomplishments. It's just like, come on you wh.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Do you have an update?
Speaker 6 (49:33):
PAULI, yeah, this is big news unit your second all
time only too. I got Walter Johnson no relation and.
Speaker 14 (49:43):
Yes, absolutely look that up to Walter john family tree.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
No, that was different. Walter Johnson pitched when you pitched
like sixty games a year than Randy Johnson. If you
look at in the modern day, Randy Johnson hit more
guys than any other pitch.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yes and hit batsman by start, you're the all time champ.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Congratulate about a round of a pause for a hitting.
Speaker 8 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah, right, I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
About But you're not sure that I didn't know before
this conversation today. But you don't know how many you
hit on purpose?
Speaker 8 (50:15):
No, I wouldn't say very many.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well, who pissed you off for? You go? You know what,
somebody's got to take. Somebody's getting drilled here?
Speaker 8 (50:22):
Well, you know it was. Uh.
Speaker 14 (50:26):
I usually only retaliated if and I would always ask
my hitter if he felt like he got hit on purpose,
and if he did, then I obviously would hit retaliate. Uh.
But what I come to realize, uh, and what would
be kind of like the inside joke on the bench
during the game was the days that I was pitching
(50:47):
most of our hitters.
Speaker 8 (50:49):
My hitters didn't have to worry about.
Speaker 14 (50:51):
Getting hit because if they did, then there was going
to be you know, hell to pay, you know. And
so I'm sure though hitters on the other team told
the picture, make sure you don't put inside too much today.
But I but I did protect my hitters, and I
didn't have a problem with that at all. I'm not
out there to you know, hit anybody, or not out
(51:13):
there to hurt anybody, but I'm out there to protect
my players, and that was just a way the game
has always been played.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Who's your pick on the World Series?
Speaker 14 (51:22):
Well, I saw today that it's Coal and Flahrity. I
was kind of hoping. I wanted to see Cole and Yakamoto.
Speaker 8 (51:31):
Is that is that his name? I'm unpronounced it yamamot.
Excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 14 (51:36):
I was kind of hoping to see that matchup because
I think that will be the tail tale of how
this whole thing is going to pan out. But uh,
I think anything can happen. I don't think it's going
to be a short series. I think, you know, I
watched the National League much more than the American League,
(51:58):
so I've been watching the dog a lot, and obviously
when they come through Arizona, I see them.
Speaker 8 (52:02):
I watched this series against San Diego.
Speaker 14 (52:07):
I think I think, excuse me, I think the Dodgers
will inevitably win, but I think it's gonna be a
close series. I'm just kind of curious to see how
Roberts uses the bullpen.
Speaker 8 (52:18):
Like he's been doing.
Speaker 14 (52:21):
You know, if they can hold up and keep doing
what they've been doing for the most part successfully.
Speaker 8 (52:28):
You know.
Speaker 14 (52:29):
Then I then I think, uh, the pitching is really
what's going to you know, have to you know, rise
to the top. That's what That's what's gonna shut down
both mega offenses.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Great to talk to you again, my pleasure next.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
Year at some point the State of the Union address again.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Okay, I appreciate that. And uh, if you you know,
once you find that cy Young that I mean, you
got five of them, Like, what's what's losing one really
mattered to you?
Speaker 14 (53:02):
How About how about like some kind of baseball or patcher,
like a bablehead for your desk right here.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
M cy Young, I would look a whole lot better.
Speaker 8 (53:12):
All right, Well, you.
Speaker 14 (53:13):
Know what, next time we have a conversation, I'll have
all five of them right behind me.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Okay, there'd be a nice little backdrop. Okay, be nice.
Great to talk to you. Thank you, Randy, and good
luck to your shoulder. Thank you. That's Randy Johnson.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Football coming up tonight, Vikings at the Rams. Rams getting
two and a half here, And as I said yesterday,
and I was told by a source over the weekend,
this could be a real tail tail game for the
Rams moving forward, the Rams as we know them? Will
there be changes if they lose? Will they be sellers?
(00:25):
Is there a chance Cooper Cup is traded? After that?
And I know that there was some chatter about maybe
Matthew Stafford being available. There was a story that came
out that maybe the Vikings were interested in him. I
think everybody has denied that, but I was told two
weeks ago, is Matthew Stafford going to be available if
the Rams are not in a race for the playoffs?
(00:47):
And then Cooper Cup, that name came up. And then
I talked to my source and I said, would they
trade them? Trade him to the forty nine ers. You know,
Tampa Bay lost Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, god went out
for the year. You got the Chargers. Who could use
a weapon. I mean there's a variety of suitors out there,
the Steelers as well, but just some of the things.
So it's it's a standalone game. But there's a lot
(01:09):
more that could be attached to this depending on the outcome.
But the Vikings they are favored by two and a
half in Los Angeles. Los Angeles has been the epicenter
of sports, certainly with Opening Night with the Lakers with
Bronning and his dad, and then you have what's going
on with the World Series on Friday night. You have
this Rutgers against USC football game coming up as well
(01:33):
this week, Socibi do.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You say Rutgers USC as a feature?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah? Host the coast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the coast. Paul,
it's a big ten matcha Paul all An, A vintage. Yes,
that's an old school big ten MATCHA.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
A lot more juicy than you guys realize.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I know, you know, you'll be a facetious Paul Is.
I'm not Carlett Knight's Trojans.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That's going to be something.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's tomorrow night. I don't know which one I'm going
to watch. World Series, Suns, Lakers, Rutgers USC. Yes, do
we want to guess on that that game on Rutgers USC,
Like somebody from Rutgers.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Somebody from the News Tribune covering the local.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, New Brunswickataway Area.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, USC losers at the Coliseum to the Scarlet Knights.
Things are gonna get very messy if they're not already.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know, you heard it here first all that, Thank you, captain.
But you know my attention is going to be tonight.
What I'm going to watch is Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
It's funny too, because if your Rutgers going to USC,
You're like, hell, yeah, man, we're going to be in
California for a couple of days. La, this rules your
USC going to Rutgers. You're like, we got to go
to Piscataway.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, but this will this will be at the Coliseu.
It will be. It will be to say it's not
fair when you yeah, what what is the line on
that one?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
USC is favored by thirteen and a half.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Okay, Now, I know Rutgers football is better than it
has been in the path or they're a solid squad.
But if you're in southern California and you wake up
in the morning and you hear your team lost, USC
lost of Rutgers, that is unrecoverable, unrecoverable.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's't worry coverable.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Yes, because you would be three and five in mid October.
The loss of Rutgers, which perception? What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Though? So you do you get embarrassed at home against Rutgers,
But what's the fallout.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That Lincoln Riley's on the clock.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I think he's on the clock, but you know he's
also on the payroll. They gotta get him a lot
of money to get rid of him. I don't from
what I was told that he's not on the hot seat.
And I was like, okay, you know he's an offensive
minded coach. We all know that. But you know the
game against the Scarlet Knights of Rutgers coming cross country? Lookout, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Bigger, New York, LA matchup Rutgers versus USC or Yankees Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Fair question.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay, well let me ask Tom Todd brought up USC
Rutgers wow earlier today about that's a big game.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm excited about that game. I know my brother went there.
But the Scarlet Knights, that's Greg Ciano choppin. You may
do some chopping in LA and could surprise some folks
at USCE. Everyone's talking about Rutors basketball and all of
a sudden, Records football slides in and causes Lincoln Riley
to be I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Everybody is talking about that.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
It's word on the street.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
No, no records is gonna be like in the Sweet
sixteen in basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well okay, but I have other things to worry about.
I got the Spurs against the Mavericks coming up tonight.
And you know what that means. Victor Wembnyama against Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So I mean they're guarding each other, They're just playing
against each other in the same.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So earlier this morning, about an hour ago, Paulie brought
up the game games that are coming up tonight, and
Fritzy goes, yeah, I'm looking forward to that matchup, Klay
Thompson versus Victor Wembenyama, and I go, they're not guarding
each other. In fact, do you think the ticket stub
is going to have Victor Wemby Victor Wembnyama against Clay
(04:57):
Thompson tonight?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
The graphics people should put that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, no, no, no, They would probably have Luca Lucas both of
them though, or Kyrie versus.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I'm disappointed you guys thought I meant that. I thought
they'd be guarding each other the weast.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
You made it seem like that's the game that The
reason why we're going to watch this game is Victor
wem Ben Yama versus Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Right, because them both Ay're both gonna be on the court.
Clay's going to be now in a Maverick's uniform for
the first time.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
If I said it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
To I misspoke, But I think I know a little
bit more about the NBA than I think that Wenby
and Klay Thomps would be guarding one another.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
But that's okay, you guys gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Be You made it seem like that was the matchup,
Like the promo was going to be Victor wem Ben
Yama versus Klay Thompson. I was saying and elbowing each
other or my wrong on Marvin. Is that how it
was presented this morning?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I think it was because Fritzy goes Klay Thompson. He's
available tonight, right. I was like, Yeah, it's been hurt
a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I'm glad he's going to be actually playing in Game
one for his new team.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, he's got a guard, Victor web Benyama, so it's
gonna be tough. I hope he's healthy.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Should probably find someone else to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, So that's why we're kind of in a weird
mood today because well Todd for a couple of reasons there,
but Rutgers USC. I'm going to circle that one on
my calendar.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Take a peek at the baseball but you really want
to walk to work as USC.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, you stay on your phone. Lakers sons, Lakers sons
as well.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, Ston, I'm glad that you brought this up because
it is our first poll question for the day. If
you were a graphic designer working for the TNT, that game.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh I don't. I think you have to have your
best team on that one.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
If you were a graphic designer working for tn T,
who would you put on the poster for Spurs? Matt
Victor Wimbanyama or or and rather not or but and
Luca Kyrie or Clay or Mark Cuban Cubes?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah Cube, I'm going to guess Luca. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Just the iteam has a direct quote from Fritzy. I said,
you know one game to tune in tonight, Spurs at
Matt Fricaues. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to Wembama
versus Klay Thompson.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
As if that's the that was the that was the quote.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I still don't think that necessarily means that they're guarding
each other. That's a different phraseology to me, and that's
where I may be mistaken.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Okay, so tonight it's Vikings Rams. Well, I'm sorry, tonight
it's the MAVs versus the Spurs. Then you have Vikings Rams,
Syracusean Pitts and College Football World Series tomorrow and uh
to a tongue of Ioloa returns to practice with the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I have a question.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Yes, I say that's gonna be a fun game tonight.
Sam Donald versus Matthew Stafford, do you think that. I
don't think one's gonna sack the other one. They're gonna
like try, No, Sam Donald versus Matthew Stafford. One's not
going to tackle the other one on the field.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Okay, they both play offers Klay Thompson and Victor Wembnyama
on the court at the same time. Yes, are Sam Donald?
It all looks for a little Matthew Stafford on the field.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Just the wording.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
One guarding the other.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
That's what you do.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You doubled down, used to take it quietly, and now
all of a sudden.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
I'm sicking.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's an L. Just take the L, I know, but
you double down and then you get a couple of
l's in there. You're L McPherson.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, Yes, I have the official Thursday Night football promo
from Is that on Apple? Amazon Prime? Yes, the picture is.
It's not Justin Jefferson, it's Sam Darnold and Matthew Staff.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Kind of like Klay Thompson and Victoria.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
But then I have a secondary one where it's Justin Jefferson,
who definitely won't be covered by Matthew Staff.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
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Speaker 5 (09:20):
Let's see we also have up there other than that
one which is going up right now, this is from
the t dubs. Might as well keep the train rolling
if the product is bad. Would you still go see
a team played just because they're new in a new arena,
Yes or no.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I have done that. I did that with the Pittsburgh
Pirates when they moved into their new stadium. I was
in Pittsburgh, got tickets, walked across the bridge because I
wanted to see that stadium and I loved it. The
game wasn't good, but the views of downtown Pittsburgh, everything
they did with that, they did it right in my opinion.
(09:56):
So yeah, I have done that before. Where I'd go see,
you know, I mean I went to Cowboys Stadium. I
wanted to see. Is this what we're headed? You know,
the direction we're headed into with stadiums and jumbo trons
and everything that bells and whistles, and hopefully we're not.
But what the Clippers did with their new arena is
(10:20):
it would be It'll take away from I think how
bad the team is going to be. I think the
experience that's there and the opposing players. Kevin Durant and
Devin Booker were talking about it that this is a
true home court advantage, something they had never seen before,
and the Clippers did lose a close game to the
Phoenix Suns. Here's Kevin Durant, uh and the question to
(10:42):
Kevin Durant and his answer anthy much.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
It liked to play in this building incredible.
Speaker 11 (10:47):
I loved it last I absolutely loved the water. They guys, yeah,
I says, saying I knowing the playoffs, and you know,
once people get more and more comfortable with the arena,
it's going to be insane here. So I always love
when lou venues go up in our league. Is always cool,
always sets the standard for what they come down the line.
Speaker 12 (11:07):
You know.
Speaker 11 (11:08):
So Steve is doing great job this franchise.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Kevin Durant effusive there talking about the Clippers and Steve Balmer.
Twelve of his twenty five points came in the fourth quarter,
went into overtime. James Harden is the only thing to
see so far with the Clippers, says he had a
pretty good night. He had twenty nine, twelve rebounds and
eight assists. But you know, the wall is what they
(11:31):
talk about and there's certain requirements of being there on
the wall there, but it is a two billion dollar arena,
which is nothing to Steve Balmer, and he's really kind
of set the standard here if you're building an arena.
It's like when Camden Yards opened up and you're like, godly,
(11:52):
is that awesome? It was new, but it was old.
It had retro. You had the warehouse there, the fences
were you know, six feet high.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It was downtown revitalization on the waterfront there. They did
a great job with that. It's weird how we're trying
to get you know, it's modern, but you want old
school like Fenway and Wrigley. I'm you know, thrilled that
they're still kept those buildings because Yankee Stadium got torn
down Old Yankee Stadium to basically replicate old Yankee Stadium
(12:26):
a few blocks away. But I love the fact that
they kept it with that feel of of old, you know.
And I had gone to Metropolitan Stadium. I was there
for the last game the Orioles played, and that was
a terrible ballpark. Great players, great franchise, but that was
not a good friend, you know ballpark. But Camden Yards,
(12:48):
that was kind of like ushering in the Hey, if
you're going to build a stadium, this is what you
need to do, and that might be the case with
what the Clippers have done with you know, the into
it Dome. Also, if you miss back to back free throws,
everybody gets Chick fil a sandwiches. There. So Durand shoots
eighty eight from the line. He misses two free throws
and people are going crazy and he's like, wait, what's
(13:10):
going on here? And then he realized he missed back
to back free throws. Everybody got Chick fil a sandwiches. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
And the wall has a lot of restrictions. I'm looking
at the official Clippers website. You know, the typical of
no profanity. But you get to enter the stadium a
little earlier the normal fans, and they funnel you into
the wall area. It's like a fan zone. But you've
got to be a fan of the Clippers. If you
are seen wearing any other NBA team's gear, you can't
go into the wall.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Things like that. You have to be an all pro
Clipper gear.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, but how does that work? If I have a ticket,
I go in and I have a son's jersey.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
On, they have a wallguard.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I know, but I got that's my ticket.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
They're not They will physically not let you into the
wall area. Even if you have a ticket for the wall,
but you're wearing opposing teams merchandise, it's on the ticket
where that.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You buy feels like a Yeah, I'm not saying this
about you, but if you are a Suns fan and
you buy a ticket in the wall knowing that that's
what that is, you're a massive loser.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Fair and it says that in the thing.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
No you are say that, you know language, go in
there and be a gigantic loser.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Fifty one uninterrupted rows of seats. The first thirteen rows
are filled with Clipper fans, diehard fans. They vetted them
by the franchise beforehand to get those seats. And the
first thirteen rows are expected to stand and chant for
the entire game. So that's your atmosphere. And Devin Booker
and Kevin Durant talked about a collegiate like atmosphere that
(14:43):
it felt like and that's what you want. There are
a lot of times, you know where I've gone to
arenas and they have something on the jumbo tron to
make you clap or make you cheer, or there'll be
music constantly. Everybody cut their hands. Oh, don't tell me
what to do, yes, but that's what they're trying to do.
(15:05):
And you never have to do that at college basketball,
like at Duke, you could never think that they would
go and come on, get on your feet. It'd be like,
we're on our feet, we never sit down. Yes, there
are that whole idea of the wall.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
There's like soccer stadiums all over the world that have that,
Like Liverpool have the cop which is like at anfield,
very famous fan area. They're usually located right behind the goal.
And yeah, it's like where like the supporter sections sit.
I think Minnesota United they have one. There's a lot
of places that do that. It's super effective.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the Premier League does have the diehard fans that
do have special access or they give them something extra,
like what the Clippers are doing is.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
That yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like if you go in there,
if you're gonna go sit in the supporter section, then
you have to be a fan of the team. And
then they'll have a supporter section for the other team
and they're usually separate, rated and they usually have to
go in different entrances just so there's not any issues.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, I think you know you're you're trying to get
people to go to games because watching a game at home,
they've made it so good, surround sound, the quality of
the TV. It's like, wait a minute, what were we doing?
What were we thinking? The TV experience is so good
that you don't want to go to a game or
(16:25):
you if you are given the choice, you might say,
you know what, I'm not going to fight the crowd,
you know, to go and have an experience. That's what
it's all about. Going to a ballpark and that first time.
I think we all remember the first time you went
to a baseball game or a football game. That just
the smell of it, the you know, kind of the
feel of you know, being in this environment. Though, And
(16:48):
good for the Clippers. I don't think they're a good team.
You know, you've got Kawhi out for a while. That's
James Harden's team, and that's not necessarily a good team
thing because the West is loaded.
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You gotta love this World Series. This is right up
your alley. This is old school. You're going to get
the entire Dodger infield probably on the show.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I Ron say, good morning, Danny.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Ron say, wait, wait, did you give any thought to
your hair today?
Speaker 9 (17:40):
I know I didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I know that time. I wait, but your wife helps you,
doesn't she?
Speaker 9 (17:46):
You know, she's away right now. My children on the
West Coast, so I don't have and I can't ask
my daughter Kira to do my makeup, so osresot. I
came up here, and I know that you guys put
it up last time. I look, but I mean I
figured out what the heck for you. I just want
to come on and chat. I did have Ron say
(18:07):
on yesterday at the top of the show. And you know,
partly Fernando who passed away, and partly because of those
Yankee Dodgers series, and he was still very aggravated when
Reggie Jackson stuck out his hip. You remember that in
game four of the seventy eight World Series had changed
the whole game. Dodgers dropped two games to one at
(18:28):
the time they ended up losing in six games. It
was still ticked off by that. But you know the
amazing thing about this World Series when you think about it, Dan,
there's two things. One, you know, they've been in the playoffs,
these two franchises before this year twelve times at the
same time together, and this is the first time in
thirteen they both made the World Series, which I find
(18:48):
interesting since nineteen eighty one, and I find that interesting.
And the second thing that's interesting here Edmonton when I
lost to Florida, what are you gonna do? They had
a great year? Dallas when I lost the Celtics, do
they had a great year. You know, most of the time,
if you get to a Super Bowl, if you get
to an NBA Final, you get to a World Series.
The Mets had a great year, The Guardians had a
(19:09):
good year. Not the case in this World Series. The
loser because of their payroll, Because of the fact the
Yankees haven't won in fifteen years, the Dodgers only won
that pandemic in forty years. You can make the argument
the loser year is going to be bitterly disappointed. So
I think that makes for a fascinating World series, and
I also think it's very close. You can make a
(19:30):
case of the Dodgers, you can make case of the Yankees.
I don't think there's a prohibited favorite in this World Series,
so they should have length and drama.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
We had the commissioner on yesterday and I said he
deserved a victory. Lamp I think baseball had a really
good year. If you look at how we were starting
the year with Otani with the gambling situation, and then
you end up with Dodgers Yankees in the World Series,
how would you rank the season that baseball had excellent point?
Speaker 9 (20:00):
You know, they had drama late in the year with
the wild card. You know, Oltani has their record performance year.
Judge it's fifty something home runs. They would never admit it,
but Yankees and Dodgers is better than Guardians and Mets.
So from that standpoint, they got drama there. You know,
they had a very good performance at the rick Wood
Stadium when Willie Mays passed away. They with the game
(20:23):
down there in Alabama where Willie played, So that turned out.
Do they do a great job at that field, the
Dreams and you know the Williams Port games. You know
they do an excellent job of that. I agree with you, Danny,
and I think you're the expert with this. Last year
the World Series with Arizona and Texas, they didn't do
that well. You know, nine to ten million the average.
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I would think this World Series, if it goes length deep,
I got to figure what fifteen eighteen million on the average.
You would be the better rate judge of that because
you know the ratings game better than I do.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
What you thought.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I hope that you're approaching fifteen million. I hope that
that's sort of where we start. You can't ask for
a better matchup because you have you know, you have Otani,
you have the Dodgers, you have the Yankees, and you
have a judge, and you know this is worldwide too.
When you bring in Otani, now it's worldwide. Now. I
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know you don't get credit for those ratings in Japan,
but this will be a monstrous rating as well. But
it's good for baseball that more eyes are on this.
I think there's a younger demo watching. I think the
game now it's sped up. Now, there's movement, stolen bases
are back. It just feels like there's a lot of
momentum there, and I know we're going to go to
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the automatic balls and strikes here, and the commissioner said
that in the next four years we're going to have
some version of that. I don't And he even said,
you got to get past the first month when you
have changed, whether it's the size of the bases or
the pitch clock, once you get past the first thirty day.
Nobody brought up the pitch clock. Nobody's know about a base,
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none of that.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Now we accept it, and I think the big key,
the big jump is going to be automatic balls and
strikes over the next couple of years.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Be interesting if they do a challenge system with that,
or if they actually have the automated scenario.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That I think he talked about, there would be a
challenge scenario attached to this.
Speaker 9 (22:21):
Yeah, so I mean that will be interesting. And I know, listen,
I don't love that. But okay, they want to go
use technology for it, let them do it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But you're a tennis fan, Chris, you want to get
the calls right. They've mastered it. That's I mean, can
you like it in tennis and not like it in baseball?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Fair point?
Speaker 9 (22:41):
The fair point, I guess you could make that argument.
I mean, in tennis, you also can make an argument
that a line call is much more significant than it
would be a ball and strike call on a second
in it that's true. I mean, you can make that
argument that the decision with line calls from a three
or a five set match are more important than a
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ball and strike call on the bottom of the third.
So that's the argument I would make. And I also
don't want a huge delay, but I understand that I
do like the human element. See, the other thing is
there is an apple, there's a there's a there's some
charm to the umpire with balls and strikes. There's no
charm to a lines person making a call. So I
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think that So I'm not in love with it. But listen,
I can't argue with the scenario, with the situation with
the pitch, with the pitch clock, and it moved quickly
on everything else. But I think a very very good
World Series. I think the big edge the Yankee saff
Danny is they got a better starting rotation. Yeah, I mean,
I got five or six pitchers. The Dodgers don't really
have that. Dodgers have other advantages, but the Yankee advantage
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in the rotation to me, gives them a little ledge.
Now I could not. I would not be shocked if
the Dodgers won. Here's the thing I would be shocked at.
I would be very surprised if this goes in less
than six games. I can this going to be a
ball game A week from fine night, Game six at
Dodger Stadium. Somebody's up three to two, I would say that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
We're talking to Christopher mad Dog Russo you were doing
high heat yesterday on MLB I think yesterday this week,
and you had Brian Cashman on the Yankee GM. I'm
going to play your question and then here's his answer.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
Give me your thoughts here fun of getting back and
winning a pennant after a fifteen year I don't want
to say drought, that's not fair. But you want to
say what I'm saying with the gap? How about being
a pennant?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
How does that mean to you?
Speaker 9 (24:29):
It means a lot.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
And I hate the fifteen year thing because it doesn't
It completely forgets some discounts that some other organization cheated
us when we were all the way in the end.
You know, if you knew what was going on, I
don't think they would be your dancing at that during
that time thing, I think we would have been advancing.
So I hate that fifteen year thing because I don't
think it accurately reflects history.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, is Brian being fair to the word cheating?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
It's always nuts. First off, Brian's for getting two other
about four things. The Astros beat the Yankees in twenty
and fifteen. The Astros beat the Yankees in two thousand
and nineteen. The Astros beat the Yankees in two thousand
and then they beat him again two years ago in
four straight games. So the Astros eliminated the Yankees in
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three other rounds in three other years. Number two, if
you be fair about it, what did the Yankees hit
in that series against Houston? They hit about one sixty.
What did the Yankees hit with runners in scoring position
in that well in that seven game series, they hit
about one eighty five. I understand he's frustrated. I understand that.
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You know, maybe there was a scenario where the Yankees,
you know, you can I know the Astros shooting is
a is a joke and they should have been punished
as they were. But remember in Game seven, the Yankees
pitched C. C. Sabbathia. I mean, he was old and
he was shot at that point of Hall of Famer, So,
I mean, it's not like the Yankees pitched, you know,
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Whitey Ford and for someone god the reason, he gave
up eight runs in the first in it. I know
the Yankees feel that way. I know the Dodgers feel
that way. The Dodgers in the World Series lost that
year in seven games.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
They had.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
Dodgers lost two games at home that year in the
World Series at the Astros cheat in Dodger Stadium, the
addfields also that year in the World Series, in Game two,
they trailed and they buried Jansen in the ninth inning
to win the game. So well did the Astros chet
when he happened when the Dodgers had a blown safe.
I understand Bryan's frust. Jason, he's a great general manager.
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I think that's a little unfair to pin the seventeen
loss on the idea that the Yankees were jobbed. When
the Yankees in that World Series in Houston hit one fifty,
they hit one fifty in twenty runs in four games
they lost two nothing to one. Erlander beat him, So
I think it's a little misleading when the Yankees bring
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that up, and it's still sore as you can say.
The Yankees are still ticked off about the seventeen World Series,
about the seventeen Alcs.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I didn't see this that I read it where you
kind of dismiss the Bronni Lebron James concocted scratch can What.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
A waste of time that is? Yes, I think that's
so stupid. That is so dan, that is so artificial,
that is so I mean, come on, he had one
rebound in three minutes. He's going to be in the
G League in about a week. You know, they listen.
Lebron is a wonderful player, and I understand that Lakers
are trying to make sure that he is motivated and
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he's galvanized and it meant something to him. So I
understand that. But I walked around town all the time.
I did not have one person tell me, wow, did
you see that Bronni played with Lebron last night? The
American sports fan could care less. Let's be fair and
don't compare it to Griffy. I looked it up when
Ken Griffy played with his son with Seattle. You know,
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he hit three to zero six that year, and he
and one year and then another year he had a
three eighty batting average. Griffy could still hit when he
was forty one years of age. Bronni's not an NBA
player right now. Olakers did this to pacify Lebron, which
I understand. He's the second greatest player of all time.
It meant something to him, Okay, but don't try to
convince the American sports fan that this is a big
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deal that Lebron played with his kid and it's the
first effort, because I think it's fake. That's my take.
I know a lot of people disagree. That's my take.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay, your son's just starting out in the business. He
doesn't warrant being on a big stage. But let's say
you say to management, I'd like to do a radio
show with my son on Serious XCM.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Well, I wouldn't say that, but I understand what your
point is. I wouldn't say that because these jobs are
very difficult to get and I think that that advantage
of him wouldn't be be unfair, So I would not tell.
You know, bosses, hey do me a favor. Make sure
Colin Russo gets on Serious and does a once a
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week show with me.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Way to God.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
You can tell anybody that in West com I wouldn't
say that. And I'll say this, and I'll say this
right now. Well, I won't say that because that will
get me in trouble.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Your wife's out of town. You can't get in I
say it.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I'll say it, Colin Well, on a radio perspective, he
is better at what he does right now, then Bronnie
is what he does, has that, I'll say that all
sorts of confidence. Okay, I just think to me it
was You don't think that was a little artificial.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, yes, yes, the whole draft was artificial.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Okay, so you agree with yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
But I still think it was pretty cool that they
were able to pull this off. Now, Bronnie is a
g lead player, and but this is this was just
a Lebron If it keeps Lebron engaged, Chris, yeah, I
understand he's one of the top ten players in the
game at age twenty. Yes, you're two years in better
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me means that he's going to be excited still playing.
If I'm a Laker fan or the NBA, like, I
want Lebron still in the game playing at a very
high level at some point. Excellent point, and Bronni should go.
This is what I think is going to happen. Bronnie's
twelfth man. He got in. He he'll get seasoned in
the G the G League, and then they'll bringing up,
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probably for the Christmas Day game. Like I think they'll
pick spots to bring him up, let him play a
little bit, and then send him back down. That's what
I would hope. I Dalton connect is the rookie that
we should be talking about.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
And he's good.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
James, I agree.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
So so your point is you're okay with it because
it's good for the Lebron and what's good for Lebron
is good for the game, which means is good for us.
That's where you come down on this.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, because he didn't play that long, I think it
was all right. We'll put him in. It's kind of
a like a ceremonial first pitch.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Well, they'll make it historical. Then don't say, wow, this
is the.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
First places don't like the Griffies. I agree with you.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Don't make it historical. If if your point is, hey, listen,
Lebron's earned this, and that's your point, that's fair. I'll
give you that. But don't make this some unbelievable event
that the sports fans got to pay attention to because
because they're pacifying Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, but you work part time for a network that
makes this bigger than what it needs to be.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
I agree, I agree, and that is why yesterday part
time is a little strong. Then you're you're a ESPN.
I'm on there at two hours a week to give
them to help Stephen Eddie. I mean to say that
I'm an esp employees a little strong.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
But do you have ESPN? I d no, I don't. Okay,
all right, then you're not an I can.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Get into Disney World with a discount that it passaged me.
Now I tell you a little secret I told him yesterday.
I said, guys, listen, I'll play the You know, this
is how I feel about Ronnie. If you don't want
me to get into this, because if it's gonna bother people,
all lay low and to Stephen, as Krety said, Chris,
you say what you have to say. If you get pounded,
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who cares? We all get pounded on first, Dad, say
what you have to say. So that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, I know, but that's where I couldn't do it anymore.
And I did it when I was there where they'd say, hey,
you got to go Duke North Carolina basketball, you gotta
talk Yankees, Red Sox and you know you guys are
told here's topics there and the amount of times that
you can create. Now everybody's doing this. What's the cowboy
(32:34):
angle today?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (32:35):
I know, Doc Prescott, But I love when you fight
back because you're gonna stand, You're gonna speak to more
people instead of playing the hits like they do.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Like, Well, here's what I would say, and I'm pat
myself on the back. This is just me telling you
because you and I have been together and known each
other for a very long time, is what I would say.
How many people? And I didn't do this on purpose.
I just did this because this is how I felt.
How many people are gonna go on ESPN, no matter
what the show and not the idea that I've seen
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too much of Jason Kelsey. How many people are going
to do that? Yes, because he was all of that
Atlanta Philadelphia game.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean that was that was not good.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
That was too much. Let's be fair. Yes, right along, Danny,
I'm a runner, a.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Wround no, but Steven a going to a Knicks playoff
game and you would have thought that he was playing.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
I said that yesterday bad I said, Steve, how about
a T shirt?
Speaker 14 (33:33):
That?
Speaker 8 (33:38):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Most importantly, everything's great, everything's great.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
That's a good spot with Manford. That's a good spot
with Manford.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, And you know, I like him, he's a good guy.
I like him. I did. I haven't liked everything he's done.
But you know what it's like David Stern. I really
loved Stern. We had battles, but you know what, I thought,
at least he would listen. I thought at least he
was honest with me. And that's all I can ask
for when you have these like the commissioner Goodell doesn't
(34:08):
come on the show. The other commissioners come on, and
I feel like I can say to Adam Silver, this
is wrong, or you got to change the all NBA
don't make it. You know, positions, it's positionless. Basketball is positionless.
And he changed that, and so.
Speaker 9 (34:25):
I had some influence with that.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I do appreciate that. All Right, I gotta go, and
you need to comb you here. You got to comb
your heart comment. Thank you dog. That's Christopher mad Dog
Russo be sure to catch the live edition of The
Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. He's
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has been an acknowledgment by the Baseball Hall of Fame
Randy Johnson joining us on the program. Where are your
(35:09):
cy Young's?
Speaker 14 (35:12):
Uh, one's a door stop here in my office, and
the others are throughout the house. One's a paper way
to hear on my desk, and one is a doorstop,
and then the other two or three or somewhere, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Let me let me see the one on your desk there.
Speaker 14 (35:32):
Uh, it's not it's not viewable right now because I'm
talking with with my desktop computer.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Oh you can't lift that up and just hold it
and show it to us?
Speaker 14 (35:41):
No, Yah?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Can I have one of them?
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yes, thank you, Yes.
Speaker 14 (35:50):
As soon as you as soon as you personally get
off the disabled list.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I understand you had shoulder surgery.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yep. Yeah, when's the last time you had shoulder surgery?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Uh?
Speaker 14 (36:00):
Well, I tore my rotator cuff my last year in
San Francisco and I just let it scar over. I
never went and had surgery, and that's the.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
Way my career ended.
Speaker 14 (36:14):
And so but I have had knee replacement surgery last
year in November. A lot of wear and tear on
my landing leg, and I liked it so much that
surgery part of it that I'm going back next week
and having them clean up scar tissue I had because
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just because I liked the meds that they give me.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I had the knee done a couple of years ago,
and it's one of those where you go, why didn't
I do this sooner? Because they they got hips and
knees down shoulders, they don't have down to an exact science.
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (36:52):
Well, you know, I've been retired for about fourteen years, Dan,
And when you're playing, you've got youth in and you
got trainers and doctors and things like that that you know,
the aches and pains don't seem to show up as much.
But when you get away from the game, you're removed
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from it fourteen years, the aches and pains, and the
injuries seem to circle back and they let you know
that they're still here. So I hope you get up
the disabled US soon because someone will be come calling
for you for your free agent year this year.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, if I was only a left handed pitcher, you know,
I got a couple of random questions here. Why is
it still a big deal when a left handed batter
has to face a left handed pitcher, Like, oh my god,
what an advantage?
Speaker 14 (37:41):
Like why don't they talk about right handed pictures face
a right handed hitter?
Speaker 8 (37:44):
Well, I don't know. That's a good question. I'm going
to have my staff work.
Speaker 14 (37:49):
On that question and hopefully we can get the answer
before we're done here.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But haven't we evolved where it's not a novelty Where
you go, we don't see left handers very often, I
would think with.
Speaker 14 (38:01):
I think it's just a novel idea to talk about it,
because there's not that many left handed pitchers in baseball.
There's not that many left handed people generally in the world,
let alone in sports, and so I guess it's just
kind of a novel idea.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
How would you pitch to Otani carefully? I still watch seriously.
Speaker 14 (38:22):
I mean, you know, and Soto and Judge, I mean
these people that you know. And I faced a lot
of big home run hitters, you know, for twenty two years.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
I gave up a lot of home runs.
Speaker 14 (38:34):
I don't know where, you know, I gave up four
hundred and something home runs.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
And we walk me through this. Otani's at the plate,
let's say first and bat against you well.
Speaker 14 (38:45):
And I've seen I've seen he pulls off the ball
a lot, and so I would probably be very careful
pitching any left hander down and in. The swing plane
for a left handed hitter is usually down and up,
where as a right handed hitter usually has a more
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level swing plane. If you throw a ball, if you
look at a lot of home runs hit by a
left handed hitter, the ball is usually down and in
because that's the swing plane for a left handed hitter,
whereas a right handed hitter out over the middle of
the plate. The swing plane is more straight across, sweeping
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across home plate. But I would be very careful with them.
I would start off, whether it was a ball or strike,
letting him know that I'm pitching in, get him off
the plate, and then I would try to elevate pitches.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
I wouldn't pitch down and in.
Speaker 14 (39:42):
I would elevate, but I know he can hit a
ball up too as well, and then I would work
them down and.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
A way, what about Judge, Judge.
Speaker 14 (39:52):
I would pitch like a Frank Thomas someone like that.
I've made mistakes to Frank and the ball still orbiting somewhere.
But but I would get ahead, hopefully hopefully, and then throw
my breaking ball down and in, and hopefully I wouldn't
hang it because if I did, he's going to hit
at six hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
If I would have told you your rookie year that
you would win five cy Youngs, what would you have said, I.
Speaker 14 (40:20):
Would have had you administer to some kind of pee
test or drug test. I don't think that would have.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (40:29):
You know, a lot a lot happened, uh, and it's
well documented. After I'd you know, got together and and
uh talked to Tom House and Nolan Ryan. You know,
that was really a pivotal and turning point of my career.
I had had a lot of pitching coaches in the
minor leagues up to that point, uh, and I'm very
thankful for all of them, but none of them really
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had that one little thing where it got me over
the hill and really got my you know, uh, consistency
with my mechanics. Having a conversation with them was you know,
a fifteen minute conversation down the in the bullpen, Tom
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House talking to me, watching Noel and Ryan do what
Tom House is talking and then and then it was
really up to me to you know, go out there
and do that and work on it. It was the
middle of the season when we had that conversation. Uh,
and then it was you know, a matter of me
working on this. And when you've been doing something wrong
or you know your way and now all of a
(41:33):
sudden you're trying to change something, it's not easy. It's
just like you know, I had hitters tell me that
I was tipping my pitches, and you know, I would
fan my glove on a breaking ball and I would
squeeze my glove on a fastball, and hitters, Wow, when
you're looking at me getting ready to deliver, it's just
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that fraction of a second that they need to determine
whether what's coming. And evidently I was doing that. I
would see it after they would tell me. But you
know what, I talked to lots of Hall of Fame pitchers,
and they said that they were doing it. It's not
the easiest thing to change, even though you want to,
because you don't want to go out. You might as
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well just say, hey, fastballs coming, kind of like.
Speaker 8 (42:20):
You're throwing batting practice.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
But yeah, I mean, I just think changing things, whether
it's mechanics, you know, it's just difficult. But you know
I was able to do that, and then it was
early enough of my career and then and then really
reap the benefits of having those conversations with Nolan and Tom.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
But what kind of picture would you be today? Let's
say you know you're ready to be in the major leagues,
But how would baseball use Randy Johnson?
Speaker 8 (42:55):
I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 14 (42:58):
I think the only picture that would probably be still
really special as he was when he played, because he
was so good. He would be that same kind of
pitcher in today's game. I don't think is Greg Maddox
people like that. I don't think a power pitcher like
myself or Pedro or Roger in today's game would be
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looked at in the same regards as we were in
our era. I think because velocity is more prevalent in
today's game, I think hitters can hit more velocity, high
velocity pitches. It's coming out of your starting pitchers, coming
out of your bullpen all the time. And I just
think they're adjusted to do it more now than they
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were back in the nineties. Win maybe a handful of
people through the upper nineties, you know, ninety five to
one hundred, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I'm talking to Randy Johnson, Hall of Famer and joining
us on behalf of DirecTV the bird Ballpark campaign. We
got one of those that you sent to me. That
thing still, I mean, I was gonna say it lives on.
The bird doesn't live on, But just you blasting a
bird in spring training twenty three years ago, Dan, and.
Speaker 14 (44:14):
And that seems to be running into anybody you know
here there. That seems to be the highlight of my
career or what they may remember.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
And so it was a great h It's been a
great partnership with direct TV.
Speaker 14 (44:30):
They used their Direct TV satellite dishes in mimicking these
these bird ballparks, and so it was a lot of
fun to be a part of that. And they're going
to bring one now to the Hall of Fame. And
so I think more there'll be more exposure and it's
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just been a great campaign, a lot of fun and
you know, Dan, for more information on on streaming DirecTV
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Speaker 2 (45:06):
Look at you being a salesman. You're a you're a
regular Peyton Manning.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
Did you oh yeah, sure?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Did you go to USC for baseball and basketball? I
see you got your Trojan Henna baseball and basketball.
Speaker 14 (45:20):
Well, let's be honest, Dan, I couldn't really jump, and
I didn't start playing basketball until my freshman year in
high school.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
Uh. But the story is the.
Speaker 14 (45:34):
When I got to high school being a freshman, I
was probably around you know, six eight, six nine then
maybe about one hundred and sixties hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
If you can.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Imagine intimidating, very intimidating.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
Yoh yeah, sure.
Speaker 14 (45:53):
Uh. My pe teacher was also the basketball coach and asked,
because there wasn't a lot of you know, tall people
at my high school, he asked if I had any
interest in playing basketball, and I said, well, I've never
really played organized basketball before. You know, I played Pop
Warner football, was a quarterback in a tennis and obviously baseball.
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I would try, but I don't know much about, you know,
my footwork and playing basketball. So we worked at it
in pe classes and then I went out and played
three years of high school and I actually got offered
scholarships to play basketball.
Speaker 8 (46:33):
And that's not to say that I was.
Speaker 14 (46:34):
Going to be any good, but you know, it just
goes to show for.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
Anybody that's listening right now.
Speaker 14 (46:41):
You know, if you, you know, put your time and
effort into something, you never know what will come from it.
And so, but the USC thing was strictly baseball, Okay,
I think, but you know how you know, scholarships work.
There's a limited amount of scholarships in sports, and there
probably was even less or more of a little bit
(47:01):
more back in the eighties. So I think they just
kind of said it was baseball slash basketball.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
In nineteen ninety two, Randy Johnson led the league in
strike ounce walks, batters hit by pitch, and wild pitches. Congratulations,
thank you, you were new to us.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
That's a record, they were. Surely they would be broken.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Nobody wants to break that. Did you ever feel bad
when you hit somebody?
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Not always no.
Speaker 14 (47:34):
But you know what a lot of times it was
my breaking ball, my slider that and I would hit
their back foot.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Okay? Yeah, But how many guys do you think you
hit on purpose in your career?
Speaker 8 (47:47):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
How many guys do you think you hit on purpose?
Speaker 8 (47:50):
And I don't know, Dan? Where do I rank as
your staff right now?
Speaker 14 (47:55):
My staff is out on the front sidewalk right now
because I overworked them and pay them.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
So that's your staff?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Okay? Where you rank on hit by pitches?
Speaker 9 (48:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (48:05):
So where do I rank?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
All right? PAULI do you know how many is that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (48:09):
I'm checking.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
It's easier to find batter's hit by pitch, But Randy
Johnson I haven't hitting one hundred and ninety people in
his career, which is up there.
Speaker 14 (48:18):
But where does that rank? Is there any pitcher there's
thrown hit batter more than that we're.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Checking right now.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I gotta believe Nolan Ryan hit more guys than you, y,
I would think, and probably on purpose too, probably half
of them. He might have been the meanest guy. Him
and Bob Gibson might have been the meanest guys I
ever saw in the mound.
Speaker 14 (48:37):
Yeah, I obviously I got to see Nolan pitch. I
actually even pitched against him.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Wait, you have more? Does he have more hit by
pitches than Nolan Ryan?
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Randy Johnson one ninety Nolan Ryan one fifty eight?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
What is wrong with Nolan? Damn? I think I could
get Nolan Ryan throwing ninety miles an hour if I
gave him six weeks. Randy, I don't doubt it.
Speaker 14 (48:59):
Don't you know?
Speaker 8 (49:01):
He's just he's one of those.
Speaker 14 (49:04):
Truly pitchers, athletes that come along once in a lifetime,
not once in a decade or whatever, you know, just
once in a lifetime. You won't you know that movie
that facing Nolan? Uh, you watch the end of it.
And when when you're usually rolling the credits for a movie,
(49:25):
you know the names and all that stuff, those are
all of his accomplishments. It's just like, come on you wh.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Do you have an update?
Speaker 6 (49:33):
PAULI, yeah, this is big news unit your second all
time only too. I got Walter Johnson no relation and.
Speaker 14 (49:43):
Yes, absolutely look that up to Walter john family tree.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
No, that was different. Walter Johnson pitched when you pitched
like sixty games a year than Randy Johnson. If you
look at in the modern day, Randy Johnson hit more
guys than any other pitch.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yes and hit batsman by start, you're the all time champ.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Congratulate about a round of a pause for a hitting.
Speaker 8 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah, right, I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
About But you're not sure that I didn't know before
this conversation today. But you don't know how many you
hit on purpose?
Speaker 8 (50:15):
No, I wouldn't say very many.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well, who pissed you off for? You go? You know what,
somebody's got to take. Somebody's getting drilled here?
Speaker 8 (50:22):
Well, you know it was. Uh.
Speaker 14 (50:26):
I usually only retaliated if and I would always ask
my hitter if he felt like he got hit on purpose,
and if he did, then I obviously would hit retaliate. Uh.
But what I come to realize, uh, and what would
be kind of like the inside joke on the bench
during the game was the days that I was pitching
(50:47):
most of our hitters.
Speaker 8 (50:49):
My hitters didn't have to worry about.
Speaker 14 (50:51):
Getting hit because if they did, then there was going
to be you know, hell to pay, you know. And
so I'm sure though hitters on the other team told
the picture, make sure you don't put inside too much today.
But I but I did protect my hitters, and I
didn't have a problem with that at all. I'm not
out there to you know, hit anybody, or not out
(51:13):
there to hurt anybody, but I'm out there to protect
my players, and that was just a way the game
has always been played.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Who's your pick on the World Series?
Speaker 14 (51:22):
Well, I saw today that it's Coal and Flahrity. I
was kind of hoping. I wanted to see Cole and Yakamoto.
Speaker 8 (51:31):
Is that is that his name? I'm unpronounced it yamamot.
Excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 14 (51:36):
I was kind of hoping to see that matchup because
I think that will be the tail tale of how
this whole thing is going to pan out. But uh,
I think anything can happen. I don't think it's going
to be a short series. I think, you know, I
watched the National League much more than the American League,
(51:58):
so I've been watching the dog a lot, and obviously
when they come through Arizona, I see them.
Speaker 8 (52:02):
I watched this series against San Diego.
Speaker 14 (52:07):
I think I think, excuse me, I think the Dodgers
will inevitably win, but I think it's gonna be a
close series. I'm just kind of curious to see how
Roberts uses the bullpen.
Speaker 8 (52:18):
Like he's been doing.
Speaker 14 (52:21):
You know, if they can hold up and keep doing
what they've been doing for the most part successfully.
Speaker 8 (52:28):
You know.
Speaker 14 (52:29):
Then I then I think, uh, the pitching is really
what's going to you know, have to you know, rise
to the top. That's what That's what's gonna shut down
both mega offenses.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Great to talk to you again, my pleasure next.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
Year at some point the State of the Union address again.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Okay, I appreciate that. And uh, if you you know,
once you find that cy Young that I mean, you
got five of them, Like, what's what's losing one really
mattered to you?
Speaker 14 (53:02):
How About how about like some kind of baseball or patcher,
like a bablehead for your desk right here.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
M cy Young, I would look a whole lot better.
Speaker 8 (53:12):
All right, Well, you.
Speaker 14 (53:13):
Know what, next time we have a conversation, I'll have
all five of them right behind me.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Okay, there'd be a nice little backdrop. Okay, be nice.
Great to talk to you. Thank you, Randy, and good
luck to your shoulder. Thank you. That's Randy Johnson.
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