October 26, 2024 • 38 mins
Detroit Lions WR Amon-Ra St. Brown joins the show to talk about what they need to do to make a real run at a Super Bowl winning season. MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred drops by and couldn’t be happier with the state of the game, especially with their two marquee franchises in the World Series and he confirms that an automated strike zone is coming to the big leagues sooner rather than later. And Dan limps to the finish line of this week while recovering from his shoulder surgery and reacts to the Thursday Night Football game between the Rams and Vikings. He hopes the controversial missed facemask call will instigate a change in the NFL replay rules.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
One of our favorite players. I'm on Ron Saint Brown,
the Lions wide receiver former USC why out joining us
on the program. Did you hear about the trade this
morning with DeAndre Hopkins?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, I heard about it and I was eating eating
breakfast this morning, looked at my phone and saw it.
So guys won't guess we won't be going against DeAndre
Hopkins this week. Crazy news, but I mean I feel
like it's kind of been that way this year all year.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
A lot of crazy news, especially at the receiver position.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I mean the value of that. I think Cooper
cub could be traded, you know, Mike Evans got hurt,
Chris God went out for the year. I mean, it's
how difficult is it to stay healthy at that position?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think I don't think it's the hardest position to
stay healthy at. But you know, it's football at the
end of the day, and you get in so many
different positions, different angles throughout the game, different catches that
you make. You never know what can happen throughout a
football game. So just depends, you know. I feel like
a lot of it has to do with luck. But yeah,
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you gotta I feel like you gotta train, you gotta,
you know, kind of callous your body for certain things.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But at the end of the day, there's some injuries
that you just can't prevent.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But also you have a coach who's a tough guy.
So are there times where you go I can't say
that I'm hurt, or like you can't tell Coach Campbell,
hey can I come out of the game or take
me out of the game.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I think it really depends on what you have going on.
But something serious, you definitely got to come out or
you will come out. But there's you know, if you
get a contusion, small things like that rolled ankle or
nothing two serious. I mean most guys on our team.
I think most guys in the league are going to
keep playing because of the competitors that we are. But
like I said, it depends on the injury. But I
just want to let you know that everyone here at
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the lines locker room is thinking about your shoulder with
revery that you can come back and make it in time.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm ready. Every day is a super Bowl for me,
like I could play for Coach Campbell like it, I'll
be out there. I mean, I'll tape it up even
though I got stitches, like I'll play hurt. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
just gonna let you know I'm not soft. The story
that you'll tell your grandkids about coach campbells what.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean, there's so many, so many stories I feel
like for me. I mean, every day he has a
different story, something else that he's telling us.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Are there a lot of stories you can't tell on
the air?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I wouldn't say there's not really, Okay, yeah, a lot
of them are really.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know, he's a character though, man, Yeah he is.
He's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I feel like us as players, you know, we really
we respect him as a coach so much because he's
the same guy every day. He brings the same energy
whether we win, lose, draw, whatever it is, he's the
same coach. Anybody knows how to get us going, whether
it's you know, long day of work, Wednesday practice, long
day of practice.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We got pads on. No one wants to have pads on.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
He's gonna make it fun, he's gonna make it good,
and he's gonna make his compete at the end of day.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You're supposed to learn from your losses. Certainly in the postseason.
What did you learn last year from that loss?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I think for us as a team, we learned a
lot last year. You know, obviously it was a big
year for us. We went we went pretty far. Obviously
we wanted to go to the Super Bowl and win it,
but we fell short. And I think going into this year,
the biggest thing for us was we just got to
do more. Whatever we did last year, it wasn't enough.
We got to do more in every you know, every facet,
whether it's in the weight room and the meeting room,
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out on the field and the training room, whatever it is, players, coaches, everyone,
we all have to do more because if we don't,
we expect different results. I mean that's kind of crazy.
So we got to do more and we got to
be better than we were last year.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He's I'm on Ron Saint Brown, the Lions wide receiver.
What was that like? It's almost like I wish halftime
didn't happen in that game because you guys had so
much momentum. It's like you went into halftime in a
different team or two different teams came out of that
locker room.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, it was like a tell two sides. I feel like,
you know, first half, everything went right. Second half, I
feel like everything went wrong. I remember going into the
you know, going into the locker room at halftime, feeling like,
you know, we're half away from going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I feel like we're going.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
We just got to continue we've been doing the first half,
don't mess it up. And I feel like as we
came out that second half, they did everything right and
we did everything wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And you know, that's how.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
This game is, to game of inches, and they just
made you know, a few more plays in us at
the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Who was your idol growing up? Playing wide receiver?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So my idol growing up, I didn't play receiver, you know,
growing up as a kid. I played running back for
most of my you know, childhood until I got to
high school.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
But my audo was Kobe Bryant. I love Kobe. That
was my guy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You know, his mentality, his mindset, his the way he
went about the game was something that I really admired.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Did you meet him when you were at USC.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So I never met Kobe.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I went to the to the parade when they won
the the finals. I believe it was like an eight
went to the parade, But I never got to shake
Kobe's hand.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wait, how old were you when I was.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
At the parade? I was about eight years old. I
was born in ninety nine, so eight years old.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That had to be a big moment. What did you
get to skip school that day?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I did. Yeah, it was awesome. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Did you watch the Lakers last night with Lebron and Bronni?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
No, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Actually, I was busy doing my own podcast, doing my
own thing, and I had to get the better ela
to be up in the morning. But I saw I
saw some of the highlights this morning. I saw Bronnie
checking in. I mean, I think that the whole deal
with him and Lebron is it's something that you just
can't replace. I mean, it's a time in history. You know,
one of the best players ever played, his son is
playing with him. They got the dub. I think it
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was an amazing time for sports in general.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But can you take that Mamba mentality and play football
that way?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think so for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think you can apply his his mentality and any
sport and anything in life.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
It doesn't even have to be sports.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It can be you know, you want to be a pilot,
you want to be a future whatever it is, you
can apply his mentality to try to be the best,
you know, version of yourself for you know, that particular
job that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He called me the White Mamba, but he yes, he did. Okay,
I think I think it's a positive. He signed his
all star jersey to the White Mamba, and I'm like,
all right, you know I can at my age, I
can still take on that Mamba mentality if I need to.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Like, yeah, of course you can. Alth you got to
take it on now.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, once again, But thank you for the prayers. I
appreciate that. But I'm I'm going to be able to play.
All right. You have a meeting in four minutes. If
you're late, what happens?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I get fined? So you got to pay it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
How much is it?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I've never gotten fined, so I'm not sure, but I
know it's a pretty hefty amount.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Okay, But if Golf walks in late, he's getting fine too.
It doesn't matter, don't matter who you are. Oh man,
you know, I would like for you to be one
minute late, and I'd be willing to pay the fine. Really, yeah,
what's it going to cost me? Five hundred?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah? Probably like five thousand.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, it's not costing five thousand.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Five thousand, No, you want to do that? Let me know.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I know coach before he was your head coach, So.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Okay, I got stories. Maybe you can talk to him,
talk him out of finding me.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hey, great to have you on and good luck against
the Titans. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Appreciate it, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's I'm on Ross Saint Brown Lions Wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We welcome back Commissioner Major League Baseball. He's Rob Manfred
joining us on the program. World Series kicks off on Fox.
First pitch will be Friday night at eight oh eight
between the Yankees and the Dodgers. How often do people
hit you up for World Series tickets?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
I would say I worked probably ten hours yesterday, say
about five.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Of them were devoted to ticket requests.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
How do you tell somebody no, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Look, people understand you know that even we don't have
unlimited supplies of World Series tickets. Obviously, you know, season
ticket holders kind of go first, and you just have
to be honest with people about availability.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I could be your plus one, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Dan, if you want to go, we'll find you tickets.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay, Yeah, what about throwing out the first pitch? Is
that is that booked already?
Speaker 6 (08:38):
The first pitch is well booked well in advanced Yeah,
that's done.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
How will Baseball honor Fernando Velezuela on Friday?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
There will be an activation in the ballpark.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
I think best to leave the details of that to
be disclosed when it happens. But look, Fernando was a
really important part of our history. You know, you don't
have many players who take over a season the way
he did, and we will honor him accordingly.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Could he go into the Hall of Fame as a contributor?
If I look at his career? Really what he did
impact with race, relations with Mexico, with Los Angeles, you know,
it was more than just he was a pitcher for
a little while in baseball.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, I think that's one of the you know,
I'm on the Hall of Fame board, but I don't
serve on these committees. I do think that after the
writers have their opportunity, which you know is a process
that I think has served the whole well, and I
had great respect for. You know, I do think that
the era committees, if you'll let me refer to him
that way, are important in terms of giving consideration to
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factors like you raised with Fernando that you know, it's
not just how many wins and you know what your was,
but what did you mean to the game in a
particular era.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, that's why I mean. It's tricky with being a
contributor because I argued for Buck O'Neil for years that
he Buck O'Neill was the voice for the negro leagues.
When somebody said what was cool Papa about? You know,
like what was Josh Gibson like, they went to Buck O'Neill.
So Buck was telling stories about everybody. I said, it's
the ultimate contributor while being a baseball player. So I
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like that part of it. But I just don't know
what qualifies and what does it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, No, I do think that.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I think that in the era committee process, you know,
individuals who didn't get in with the writers are given
consideration on a broader set of factors.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Than the writers may give credence to.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He's the commissioner Rob Manfred. If I would have told
you in March, hey, you're gonna get through the show
heyo Tani situation, and you're going to have the Yankees
and the Dodgers in the World Series, you would have said,
what it's.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
About time I cut up with.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Look, honestly, the season has been phenomenal for us. Stand
I mean, I you know, our tendants really strong. You know,
our ratings are good, Our demographics are getting younger. You know,
our eighteen to thirty four numbers really strong. Our average
age off our ticket buyers has gone down almost five
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years in the last four years. All of those things
are really strong. We had great markets in the postseason
with some of our you know, most exciting players represented,
and maybe the best thing about the postseason so far,
the actual individual games have been so compelling. I mean,
we have had all of the things that you know,
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based on our research, fans want to see late inning, pitching, changes, action.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I mean, it's just been phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think I love the three game series. I love
a five game series. I think it caught people's attention
earlier than normal because there was urgency there, and therefore
we didn't wait til you know, Championship series of the
World Series. To watch it was you better watch now,
this team could get bounced.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
You know, I think that we kind of found the
sweet spot on the wildcard round. I think that, you know,
in the early years, it was a knockout game, and
obviously people pay attention to knockout games, but I think
for our fan base as a whole, that's not the
way baseball's played.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
And I think, you know, the quick three game series in.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
One market gives us an opportunity to capture fans earlier
in the in the playoffs, and when you get the
things I referred to before the late any lead changes
and those sorts of things going on, you know, you
capture people and it's you carry that audience through.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
When's the last time you got a raise?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Let me see, I got to think about that. I
think I'm gonna get a raised in January. How about that,
you know raise in January?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, So you have a contract now, you know, I
had a contract at ESPN that told me what it
was going to go up incrementally each year. Do you
have your does your contract state what it's going to do?
You never thought you were getting this question today, did.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You no, I do have a contract. I got four
years left on my contract and it sets forth compensation
in a variety of forms, salary, bonus, whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
How do you know you've had a good year.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
There is actually a review process that goes on. There's
a committee of owners that you know, we present information
to and they go through and you know, I sit
with them at an owners meeting.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
And they give me their view of how I've done
for the year.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But do you want to hit home runs or you
want to have a great on base percentage? As commissioner,
you know, I think.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
It's important for a CEO to be steady.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I mean, I think that stability, consistent progress is really
really important.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I know we're not there at the off season, but
what rule tweaks are we looking at?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Well, the biggest thing that's going on right now is
the automated Strike Zone. We continued to testing in the
minor leagues last year. We are we have decided that
we're going to test the challenge version. You know, there's
two versions of ABS, one where every pitch gets called
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in the umpires of the year and the other that's
a challenge system. We're going to test this challenge system
in spring training with major league players. You know, one
of the things that we learned with the rule changes
that we did a couple of years ago, and one
of the things we've heard from players is just remember
whatever you're do in the minor league is it's great,
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but the big leagues are different, and we're going to
try to determine whether the system we have is up
to snuff to be used by major league players.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Is it inevitable we're going to have automatic balls and strikes?
In your opinion during your next four years, will we
have automated strikes on?
Speaker 6 (15:40):
I think you will see some version of the automated
strikes on in the big leagues in the next four years.
You know, look, the technology piece of it is so robust,
and I mean literally the path of the pitch is
tracked good to one one hundredth of an inch and
it's just hard to ignore that kind of technology when
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it's available.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I think the key is that remember the well,
obviously you remember the pitch clock was oh my god,
what are they doing? And then nobody brought it up.
It hasn't come up in months. All the bigger bases,
Oh we need pizza boxes out there. It doesn't come
up anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
This is why you're so good at what you do.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I have to tell you, when we think about change,
we think about it exactly the way that you describe it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
That we're going to put a change out there.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
And no matter how big or how small it is,
the first month is going to.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Be hell on wheez. You know, everybody's gonna hate it.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
And then you know, they see it and the game
is still the game, and it makes the game a
little better and people get used to it.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean even even little things.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Remember is a few years ago now we went to
the you can just signal for an intentional walk.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You don't have to throw the four pitchers.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
My voicemail after that change was made, for about the
first three.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Weeks, people called me.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
You can't repeat the things people say on my office voicemail.
It's just people like literally lose their mind over a
change is completely inconsequential.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Wait, wait, I can call you in your office and
leave a voice message.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Oh just just yeah. Unfortunately people figure out how to
get here.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah. Oh, can I give out your number now? In
case anybody wants.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I could prefer we put them to the test.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So they're leaving messages on there.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, people leave messages, you know they you know, look,
one of the great things about the game, and you know,
it's taken me time to come to appreciate this, you know,
good better indifferent. The fact that people are passionate enough
about the game to take time to express their views
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in very strong ways.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
That is a strength of our sport.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I mean, it demonstrates the connection that people have to
the game and how much they care.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
About the game.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You know what, I think you had a great year.
And I've said this before the last couple of months,
but you took chances get rid of those stupid All
Star Game uniforms. That's the next thing on the list,
right We're doing We're taking care of that, right, yeah,
we are. Okay, that's an easy fix. Right.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, you know, let's talk about that for a minute
because it's sort of an interesting one.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
One of the reasons that we stayed where we were
for as long as we did is the All Star
Game uniforms was a product that's sold a lot. And
you know, usually when people are buying something, it's an
indication that they think it's a good idea.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
This was a really interesting one. People were buying.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It, but they hated it.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I don't know why. I mean, I don't know why
they bought it if they hated it that much.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
But look, I think it's a change that's good for
us over the long haul.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, but you can still do that, Commissioner, you can
still make an alternative jersey, but let's go back to
the old school.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, we'll have jerseys that.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
We used during the home run derby probably that I
think that's where it will land that so we will
still have the product. But it was an interesting one,
and I do think it's one of those experiments where,
you know, we did it, people spoke, we listened, and
we're back to where we were.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The Pete Rose documentary Did you watch it?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I did?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I did.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Did you find out anything that you didn't know or
something that maybe you cared a little more about?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Look, you know, I'd spend enough time with Pete over
the years that I had a pretty good feel for
what he was about.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I think the best thing.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
About the documentaries that presented a pretty accurate picture.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Of who Pete is and was.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I mean it and he was a complicated person, combination
of appealing and unappealing aspects that you don't often find
in the human being.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
All Right, I want you to answer this so I
don't have to answer it anymore when my audience says, yeah,
but baseball is in bed with gambling, and so aren't
they being hypocritical with Pete Rose.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, here's here's how I think about that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I think it's a privilege to work in Major League
base Ball and to be a Major League Baseball player.
Often when you have a privilege, it comes with obligations.
The obligation in this case is to stay away from
gambling because it involvement with gambling by people who work
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in the game and can influence outcomes, reflects and presents
a threat.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
To the integrity of the game. So that's a category
of people.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Fans are different, you know, the government, you know, in
this case, the Supreme Court paved the way for legalization
of sports betting. Fans want to engage with the game
in that way, they present no threat to the integrity
of the game or a minimal threat to the integrity
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of the game. And as a result, we have different
rules that are played to those fans that have taken
advantage of that business opportunity. I don't see any inconsistency
between those two rules.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I really don't I worry about prop bets, Commissioner, Yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I have to say we have lobbied against prop bets
in a variety of states, all the states. Actually they
are certainly more problematic then I'll come based. You know,
Google won the game kind of bets, and we have
tried to get the states to recognize that there are
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some well betting per se sports betting may be fine,
there are certain kinds of bets that are problematic.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Great to talk to. You take a victory lap. You
certainly had a great year. Major League Baseball had a
great year as well, and hopefully we get a great
World Series.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Thanks again, Thank you, Dan, so always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
That's Rob Manfred.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We made it to a Friday limping. I had the under,
but we're here. It's our one on a meat Friday.
Morale is surprisingly high. Everybody in a good mood. Oh
Seton's got his hand raised early. You're limping to the finish.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Okay, I know you had shoulder surgery, but you don't
have to limp.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It is weird though, that I was limping and I
had surgery on my shoulder right and Todd goes, why
are you limping? I go, I have no idea. Maybe
it's my left side is a little top heavy than
my right side because I have all these stitches in there.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Strange equilibrium thing going on with.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got the stitches out yesterday. Somebody didn't have. Somebody
didn't have bedside manner when I was getting my stitches out.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Well, you just want to pull them and go. You
want to chit chat?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
What's yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I just have I don't know. You walk in, I
want to talk to them. I'm a personality, you know,
just trying to make their day.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
My questions about like the twins, bullpen No.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I wanted, you know, maybe her to ask about Brownie
James or something I don't know. Could have been about
the rams sellers or buyers. Who do you like in
the World Series. I didn't get anything. I got crickets.
When I went in, I said, hey, here's your day. Fine,
no return fire of how's your day? None of that
all business. Yeah, take off your shirt. And I said, well,
(24:23):
you should say please. It didn't. It was bad. It
was bad when I said you should say please. First, Yeah,
I don't want to buy me a drink. Yeah, So
I did say that to her, and then she said
what and I said no, no, And I always have
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to go back to this.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
My wife says, not everybody gets your sense of humor,
and she goes, okay, take off your shirt. So I
took off my shirt and then they snipped the sutures
there and then pretty much sent me on my way.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
What a shooter responded with my husband says, don't make
jokes to me at work.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I would have been fine with that. I didn't want
her to think that I was hitting on her. I
was just trying to make conversation. First of all. I
don't want to be thinking about her taking these stitches out,
so I'm trying to divert our attention to something else.
This is all nerves, really, yes, yeah, yeah, Like I'm
a little jittery in there, you know, so you know,
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shoulders a little banged up, so you're gonna go in there.
I can see you with you know, whatever you're taking
the stitches out with I can see you with the scissors.
I was hit just trying to have a little little conversation,
a little bedside manner in the uh, in the in
the room.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
There.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay, so here we go, come on, now, let's get up.
Should have played this for I know now starting adguard
six foot two, doctor tan Jack, You're like, oh, alrighty,
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it's meat Friday. In case you're wondering, here baked chicken
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you know.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
There are these moments where you I don't know, at
least for me, I start to understand that, like you
know those progressive commercials where it's like becoming your parents
and like you just go home on and all of
a sudden you're making like the worst jokes ever that
I'm living in a period of time in my life
where I understand that I am becoming that person that
I'm just trying to like make my son laugh, but
(26:41):
really what I'm doing is embarrassing him.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're like, oh, I'm that guy. Now, I am that dad.
Now I have zero apologies.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Like I used to be able to say like something
was dope, and now you can't say that anymore because
now you're just the dad saying old words.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You know, that's cap.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Yeah, no, I can't say that either. That's that's too
old but also too new.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
No cap like that cap No cap?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Who capped? You got riz? Thank you, Brady Quinn from
Fox Sports. A little later on, Jason Garrett NBC Sports
will join us tonight Yankees Dodgers Game one. It's Jack
Flaherty against Garrett Cole. Rams beat the Uh you have
the Dolphins on here, PAULI I do. Yeah, I think
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they beat the Vikings. If they beat the Dolphins and
the Vikings in one night, that should count as two
wins something. But the Rams beat the Vikings last night.
The Rams now three and four, the Vikings jumped to
five and two.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Not only put it, I put dolphins on there. I
spell dolphins wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You did. That's a double way you have dolphins.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
It's pretty much the use though.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Like I said, we're limping towards the finish line here.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Kind of ignore your typos at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
See he's good.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Degrees.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Do you want to start over again? We're cooking, Yeah, okay,
so eight seven seven three DP show email address DP
at Danpatrick dot com Twitter handle a TP show did
get the stitches out, so almost almost ready to be
at full strength.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Are you long tossing little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, no, no, none of that. And she said, don't
do anything stupid. That's simulating a game. Yeah, I can't
do that.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Scranton Wilkesbury. They're sending you down.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I can't do the golf simulator. I can't. I
can't do anything nothing. But when the you know, the
doctor or the kind of assistant doctor some said don't
do anything stupid. And I said, you're going to have
to define stupid. And she goes, let nothing, no heavy lifting,
none of that. Okay, we don't want to move forward.
Then we move back and I go, okay, got it.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Yes, I just went to the dentist two days ago. Yeah,
and they said, oh, you have to come back tomorrow
to like finish up some stuff. So it's like, all right,
no problem. So I went to the front desk to
make an appointment for the next day. She's like, okay,
you want to come back tomorrow. Yeah, she's looking it
looks like the earliest appointment here.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I have is two thirty. And I went.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
And she looked at me and I was like, two thirty.
You know, it sounds like a joke at the dentist
or whatever, and she went, so does that one work
for you? Oh my gosh, Well, okay, to be fair,
she's probably gotten that joke fifteen.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Times, that one every very single day when she gives
a too thirty, What time is your dentist appointment? Too
thirty thirty? And she was not at the stat of
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So last night, the they beat the Vikings, they're now
three and four and it doesn't sound like look like
they're going to be sellers. And I think that was
a real possibility had they lost that game. Talk a
(30:10):
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seven to three DP show. Coming into last night, the
Rams looked like they were going to be sellers. But
you got Pookin Akouop back, and you got Cooper Cup
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back and they're now three and four. So the season
far from over for the Rams. Because the NFC West,
it looked like it was the Niners, and the Niners
were going to run away with this. That's not the case.
Riddled with injuries, Cardinals, there are a few pieces slash
years away. Seattle the only team in the division with
a winning record. So the Rams, all right, maybe they're
(31:18):
not Super Bowl contenders, but they're certainly contenders to make
it back to the playoffs. You got a great coach,
got a great quarterback, you got two really good wide receivers,
good running back, and becoming sellers at the trade deadline
may be a little premature for a team that has
a lot of talent, and you saw that last night. Now,
there was a play late in the game, under two
(31:39):
minutes to go. Sam Darnold gets sacked in the end
zone for safety. They're down eight, now they're down ten.
There was a face mask on the play and Al
Michael's in kirk kurb Street who were doing the game,
and they described it this way, he got a hold
of something there.
Speaker 10 (31:57):
Let's see he got that face mask his shirt did yep,
And they cannot review that, but he definitely got the
face mask right there. I mean, anytime you see a
guy's head get spun backwards, something happened and he got
away with one right there.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
And blanking fans are going, what the hell.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
There's a lot of different things you can review.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Yeah, there's Jones, Jones saying, hey man, you gotta call that.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I missed it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
How about what the hell? From al ate Lean into
the evening, So up by eight, now they're up by
ten and no more drama left in the game. This
is what I don't understand if I'm to listen and
believe what the NFL says with their officials. You have
an official who was looking at the line, the line
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play offensive certainly defensive line, and then you have a
referee who's looking at the quarterback. How does one of
those two not see a lineman grabbing Sam Darnold's face
mask or just the body language of how he contorted back.
And the official whose job is to watch the quarterback,
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how do you miss that? You can't review it, and
it was an obvious face mask. Now, granted, if they're
down nine as opposed to eight, we're probably not up
in arms about this, but you do have a chance.
I don't think they had time any timeouts left, and
they had to go eighty yards and get a two
point conversion. We know all of that, but you're watching
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that and it's a standalone game and they missed it.
Not reviewable. Now, I wondered, since it was a scoring play,
is there a loophole that it's a scoring play even
though it's a safety. But there would have been a
penalty on the play. From what I'm told, you can't
review that. That's not the loophole. It's a scoring All
(33:55):
scoring plays are reviewed, but you can't review a scoring
play like that because then you'd have to call a
penalty and you can't do that, so I've been told,
but I thought there might be a loophole where you go, well,
that's a scoring play. I mean, they did score two,
but you can't add a flag to a play. I thought, oh, man,
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this is going to be genius tomorrow on the show.
And then I came in and then the dan z
shot me down. They're like, no, you can't add a flag,
and I'm like, okay, fair enough, but this is one
of those moments where we see it, it's right in
front of us, and then the officials are like, I
guess we missed it. I don't know if anything to
do with face mask is going to be reviewable. I
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don't think everything should be reviewed, but I think there
are certain things that in certain situations. Now, I don't know,
under two minutes to go, can you review something challenge flag,
anything like that, something that's egregious like that and does
have a big impact on the outcome of the game.
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I thought, may this is something the NFL. All it
takes is a moment, a standalone moment. That's when the
NFL changes things. When somebody gets hurt or how they
get hurt, or a scoring play. Hey, we're going to
review push tush. We're going to review all of these things.
That's what it takes. They never go, you know, what,
what happens. If this happens, it's always that happened. Now
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they react to it. I don't know if they change
next year where they go, Hey, any face mask or
questionable face mask penalties, we're going to make those reviewable.
I don't want everything reviewed, but given gambling, I think
you got to be careful. You know, you got to
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air to the side of We did everything we could
do to look at this, investigate this to get the
call right. But I don't want everything under review, yes, Pauline.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Social media last night had a lot of reaction like this.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
People thought that NFL has this sky judge system in
place for just this type of situation, tight game situation
with a clearly missed call, and they called down to
the officials before and a lot of people think that
that's a part of the NFL. While you say rightly
that they can't review this play, it does seem in
the past two years there's been a little sky Judge,
New York call down fix things movement and why didn't
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happen here? That was a lot of people on social
media last night.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Here's Kevin O'Connell, the Viking's head coach.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
What did you think of the non call on the
parent face mask therapy?
Speaker 11 (36:28):
And yeah, you know, it looked like you got a
pretty good amount of face mask there. Not going to
get into the call or no call and all that stuff.
It's just I told our team officiating and all that stuff.
For us to talk about that, for us to seek
comfort in that is not how we're going to respond
to this. It's just not going to happen. And I'm
going to do the same thing right now.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I really don't have a comment on whether.
Speaker 11 (36:51):
It was a It looked like you got a piece
of the face mask, but they didn't think so, so
they didn't throw the flag.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, he doesn't want to get fined there. You don't
have to necessarily read between the lines. You know exactly
what he's saying here. When Stafford Williams they're running back,
Cooper Cup, Pukainakua have all been in the lineup. The
Rams are seven and three in average nearly twenty eight
points per game and nearly four hundred yards of offense
per game. That's where you if they stay healthy, they
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can win this division. I thought they were a playoff
team when the season started. You have injuries. Everybody has injuries.
Now you got guys getting healthy. I know there was
talk about Cooper Cup being traded. He could still be traded,
but from what I was told, my source said if
they lost that game last night, then Cooper Cup was
probably going to be dealt. I mean, that's a very
(37:44):
fine line here because they're game back, Seattle's leading the division,
the Niners are banged up, Arizona probably not going anywhere.
I think Seattle's a really good team, but you still
have a chance. It's hard to be a seller when
you're that close to maybe winning the division. But we
saw that with the Rams last night. You got a
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great coach. Stafford was wonderful last night. Nikua and Cooper
Cup awesome when they're healthy and obviously dangerous
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
One of our favorite players. I'm on Ron Saint Brown,
the Lions wide receiver former USC why out joining us
on the program. Did you hear about the trade this
morning with DeAndre Hopkins?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, I heard about it and I was eating eating
breakfast this morning, looked at my phone and saw it.
So guys won't guess we won't be going against DeAndre
Hopkins this week. Crazy news, but I mean I feel
like it's kind of been that way this year all year.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
A lot of crazy news, especially at the receiver position.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I mean the value of that. I think Cooper
cub could be traded, you know, Mike Evans got hurt,
Chris God went out for the year. I mean, it's
how difficult is it to stay healthy at that position?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think I don't think it's the hardest position to
stay healthy at. But you know, it's football at the
end of the day, and you get in so many
different positions, different angles throughout the game, different catches that
you make. You never know what can happen throughout a
football game. So just depends, you know. I feel like
a lot of it has to do with luck. But yeah,
(01:06):
you gotta I feel like you gotta train, you gotta,
you know, kind of callous your body for certain things.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But at the end of the day, there's some injuries
that you just can't prevent.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But also you have a coach who's a tough guy.
So are there times where you go I can't say
that I'm hurt, or like you can't tell Coach Campbell,
hey can I come out of the game or take
me out of the game.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I think it really depends on what you have going on.
But something serious, you definitely got to come out or
you will come out. But there's you know, if you
get a contusion, small things like that rolled ankle or
nothing two serious. I mean most guys on our team.
I think most guys in the league are going to
keep playing because of the competitors that we are. But
like I said, it depends on the injury. But I
just want to let you know that everyone here at
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the lines locker room is thinking about your shoulder with
revery that you can come back and make it in time.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm ready. Every day is a super Bowl for me,
like I could play for Coach Campbell like it, I'll
be out there. I mean, I'll tape it up even
though I got stitches, like I'll play hurt. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
just gonna let you know I'm not soft. The story
that you'll tell your grandkids about coach campbells what.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I mean, there's so many, so many stories I feel
like for me. I mean, every day he has a
different story, something else that he's telling us.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Are there a lot of stories you can't tell on
the air?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I wouldn't say there's not really, Okay, yeah, a lot
of them are really.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
You know, he's a character though, man, Yeah he is.
He's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I feel like us as players, you know, we really
we respect him as a coach so much because he's
the same guy every day. He brings the same energy
whether we win, lose, draw, whatever it is, he's the
same coach. Anybody knows how to get us going, whether
it's you know, long day of work, Wednesday practice, long
day of practice.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
We got pads on. No one wants to have pads on.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
He's gonna make it fun, he's gonna make it good,
and he's gonna make his compete at the end of day.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You're supposed to learn from your losses. Certainly in the postseason.
What did you learn last year from that loss?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I think for us as a team, we learned a
lot last year. You know, obviously it was a big
year for us. We went we went pretty far. Obviously
we wanted to go to the Super Bowl and win it,
but we fell short. And I think going into this year,
the biggest thing for us was we just got to
do more. Whatever we did last year, it wasn't enough.
We got to do more in every you know, every facet,
whether it's in the weight room and the meeting room,
(03:31):
out on the field and the training room, whatever it is, players, coaches, everyone,
we all have to do more because if we don't,
we expect different results. I mean that's kind of crazy.
So we got to do more and we got to
be better than we were last year.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
He's I'm on Ron Saint Brown, the Lions wide receiver.
What was that like? It's almost like I wish halftime
didn't happen in that game because you guys had so
much momentum. It's like you went into halftime in a
different team or two different teams came out of that
locker room.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, it was like a tell two sides. I feel like,
you know, first half, everything went right. Second half, I
feel like everything went wrong. I remember going into the
you know, going into the locker room at halftime, feeling like,
you know, we're half away from going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I feel like we're going.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
We just got to continue we've been doing the first half,
don't mess it up. And I feel like as we
came out that second half, they did everything right and
we did everything wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And you know, that's how.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
This game is, to game of inches, and they just
made you know, a few more plays in us at
the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Who was your idol growing up? Playing wide receiver?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So my idol growing up, I didn't play receiver, you know,
growing up as a kid. I played running back for
most of my you know, childhood until I got to
high school.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
But my audo was Kobe Bryant. I love Kobe. That
was my guy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You know, his mentality, his mindset, his the way he
went about the game was something that I really admired.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Did you meet him when you were at USC.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So I never met Kobe.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I went to the to the parade when they won
the the finals. I believe it was like an eight
went to the parade, But I never got to shake
Kobe's hand.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wait, how old were you when I was.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
At the parade? I was about eight years old. I
was born in ninety nine, so eight years old.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That had to be a big moment. What did you
get to skip school that day?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I did. Yeah, it was awesome. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Did you watch the Lakers last night with Lebron and Bronni?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
No, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Actually, I was busy doing my own podcast, doing my
own thing, and I had to get the better ela
to be up in the morning. But I saw I
saw some of the highlights this morning. I saw Bronnie
checking in. I mean, I think that the whole deal
with him and Lebron is it's something that you just
can't replace. I mean, it's a time in history. You know,
one of the best players ever played, his son is
playing with him. They got the dub. I think it
(05:45):
was an amazing time for sports in general.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But can you take that Mamba mentality and play football
that way?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think so for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think you can apply his his mentality and any
sport and anything in life.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
It doesn't even have to be sports.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It can be you know, you want to be a pilot,
you want to be a future whatever it is, you
can apply his mentality to try to be the best,
you know, version of yourself for you know, that particular
job that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He called me the White Mamba, but he yes, he did. Okay,
I think I think it's a positive. He signed his
all star jersey to the White Mamba, and I'm like,
all right, you know I can at my age, I
can still take on that Mamba mentality if I need to.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Like, yeah, of course you can. Alth you got to
take it on now.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, once again, But thank you for the prayers. I
appreciate that. But I'm I'm going to be able to play.
All right. You have a meeting in four minutes. If
you're late, what happens?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I get fined? So you got to pay it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
How much is it?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I've never gotten fined, so I'm not sure, but I
know it's a pretty hefty amount.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Okay, But if Golf walks in late, he's getting fine too.
It doesn't matter, don't matter who you are. Oh man,
you know, I would like for you to be one
minute late, and I'd be willing to pay the fine. Really, yeah,
what's it going to cost me? Five hundred?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah? Probably like five thousand.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, it's not costing five thousand.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Five thousand, No, you want to do that? Let me know.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I know coach before he was your head coach, So.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Okay, I got stories. Maybe you can talk to him,
talk him out of finding me.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hey, great to have you on and good luck against
the Titans. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Appreciate it, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's I'm on Ross Saint Brown Lions Wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (07:37):
We welcome back Commissioner Major League Baseball. He's Rob Manfred
joining us on the program. World Series kicks off on Fox.
First pitch will be Friday night at eight oh eight
between the Yankees and the Dodgers. How often do people
hit you up for World Series tickets?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
I would say I worked probably ten hours yesterday, say
about five.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Of them were devoted to ticket requests.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
How do you tell somebody no, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Look, people understand you know that even we don't have
unlimited supplies of World Series tickets. Obviously, you know, season
ticket holders kind of go first, and you just have
to be honest with people about availability.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I could be your plus one, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Dan, if you want to go, we'll find you tickets.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay, Yeah, what about throwing out the first pitch? Is
that is that booked already?
Speaker 6 (08:38):
The first pitch is well booked well in advanced Yeah,
that's done.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
How will Baseball honor Fernando Velezuela on Friday?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
There will be an activation in the ballpark.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
I think best to leave the details of that to
be disclosed when it happens. But look, Fernando was a
really important part of our history. You know, you don't
have many players who take over a season the way
he did, and we will honor him accordingly.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Could he go into the Hall of Fame as a contributor?
If I look at his career? Really what he did
impact with race, relations with Mexico, with Los Angeles, you know,
it was more than just he was a pitcher for
a little while in baseball.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, I think that's one of the you know,
I'm on the Hall of Fame board, but I don't
serve on these committees. I do think that after the
writers have their opportunity, which you know is a process
that I think has served the whole well, and I
had great respect for. You know, I do think that
the era committees, if you'll let me refer to him
that way, are important in terms of giving consideration to
(09:53):
factors like you raised with Fernando that you know, it's
not just how many wins and you know what your was,
but what did you mean to the game in a
particular era.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, that's why I mean. It's tricky with being a
contributor because I argued for Buck O'Neil for years that
he Buck O'Neill was the voice for the negro leagues.
When somebody said what was cool Papa about? You know,
like what was Josh Gibson like, they went to Buck O'Neill.
So Buck was telling stories about everybody. I said, it's
the ultimate contributor while being a baseball player. So I
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like that part of it. But I just don't know
what qualifies and what does it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, No, I do think that.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I think that in the era committee process, you know,
individuals who didn't get in with the writers are given
consideration on a broader set of factors.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Than the writers may give credence to.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He's the commissioner Rob Manfred. If I would have told
you in March, hey, you're gonna get through the show
heyo Tani situation, and you're going to have the Yankees
and the Dodgers in the World Series, you would have said,
what it's.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
About time I cut up with.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Look, honestly, the season has been phenomenal for us. Stand
I mean, I you know, our tendants really strong. You know,
our ratings are good, Our demographics are getting younger. You know,
our eighteen to thirty four numbers really strong. Our average
age off our ticket buyers has gone down almost five
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years in the last four years. All of those things
are really strong. We had great markets in the postseason
with some of our you know, most exciting players represented,
and maybe the best thing about the postseason so far,
the actual individual games have been so compelling. I mean,
we have had all of the things that you know,
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based on our research, fans want to see late inning, pitching, changes, action.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I mean, it's just been phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think I love the three game series. I love
a five game series. I think it caught people's attention
earlier than normal because there was urgency there, and therefore
we didn't wait til you know, Championship series of the
World Series. To watch it was you better watch now,
this team could get bounced.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
You know, I think that we kind of found the
sweet spot on the wildcard round. I think that, you know,
in the early years, it was a knockout game, and
obviously people pay attention to knockout games, but I think
for our fan base as a whole, that's not the
way baseball's played.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
And I think, you know, the quick three game series in.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
One market gives us an opportunity to capture fans earlier
in the in the playoffs, and when you get the
things I referred to before the late any lead changes
and those sorts of things going on, you know, you
capture people and it's you carry that audience through.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
When's the last time you got a raise?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Let me see, I got to think about that. I
think I'm gonna get a raised in January. How about that,
you know raise in January?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, So you have a contract now, you know, I
had a contract at ESPN that told me what it
was going to go up incrementally each year. Do you
have your does your contract state what it's going to do?
You never thought you were getting this question today, did.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
You no, I do have a contract. I got four
years left on my contract and it sets forth compensation
in a variety of forms, salary, bonus, whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
How do you know you've had a good year.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
There is actually a review process that goes on. There's
a committee of owners that you know, we present information
to and they go through and you know, I sit
with them at an owners meeting.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
And they give me their view of how I've done
for the year.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But do you want to hit home runs or you
want to have a great on base percentage? As commissioner,
you know, I think.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
It's important for a CEO to be steady.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I mean, I think that stability, consistent progress is really
really important.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I know we're not there at the off season, but
what rule tweaks are we looking at?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Well, the biggest thing that's going on right now is
the automated Strike Zone. We continued to testing in the
minor leagues last year. We are we have decided that
we're going to test the challenge version. You know, there's
two versions of ABS, one where every pitch gets called
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in the umpires of the year and the other that's
a challenge system. We're going to test this challenge system
in spring training with major league players. You know, one
of the things that we learned with the rule changes
that we did a couple of years ago, and one
of the things we've heard from players is just remember
whatever you're do in the minor league is it's great,
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but the big leagues are different, and we're going to
try to determine whether the system we have is up
to snuff to be used by major league players.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Is it inevitable we're going to have automatic balls and strikes?
In your opinion during your next four years, will we
have automated strikes on?
Speaker 6 (15:40):
I think you will see some version of the automated
strikes on in the big leagues in the next four years.
You know, look, the technology piece of it is so robust,
and I mean literally the path of the pitch is
tracked good to one one hundredth of an inch and
it's just hard to ignore that kind of technology when
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it's available.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I think the key is that remember the well,
obviously you remember the pitch clock was oh my god,
what are they doing? And then nobody brought it up.
It hasn't come up in months. All the bigger bases,
Oh we need pizza boxes out there. It doesn't come
up anymore.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
This is why you're so good at what you do.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I have to tell you, when we think about change,
we think about it exactly the way that you describe it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
That we're going to put a change out there.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
And no matter how big or how small it is,
the first month is going to.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Be hell on wheez. You know, everybody's gonna hate it.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
And then you know, they see it and the game
is still the game, and it makes the game a
little better and people get used to it.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean even even little things.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Remember is a few years ago now we went to
the you can just signal for an intentional walk.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
You don't have to throw the four pitchers.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
My voicemail after that change was made, for about the
first three.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Weeks, people called me.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
You can't repeat the things people say on my office voicemail.
It's just people like literally lose their mind over a
change is completely inconsequential.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Wait, wait, I can call you in your office and
leave a voice message.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Oh just just yeah. Unfortunately people figure out how to
get here.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah. Oh, can I give out your number now? In
case anybody wants.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I could prefer we put them to the test.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So they're leaving messages on there.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, people leave messages, you know they you know, look,
one of the great things about the game, and you know,
it's taken me time to come to appreciate this, you know,
good better indifferent. The fact that people are passionate enough
about the game to take time to express their views
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in very strong ways.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
That is a strength of our sport.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I mean, it demonstrates the connection that people have to
the game and how much they care.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
About the game.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You know what, I think you had a great year.
And I've said this before the last couple of months,
but you took chances get rid of those stupid All
Star Game uniforms. That's the next thing on the list,
right We're doing We're taking care of that, right, yeah,
we are. Okay, that's an easy fix. Right.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, you know, let's talk about that for a minute
because it's sort of an interesting one.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
One of the reasons that we stayed where we were
for as long as we did is the All Star
Game uniforms was a product that's sold a lot. And
you know, usually when people are buying something, it's an
indication that they think it's a good idea.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
This was a really interesting one. People were buying.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It, but they hated it.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I don't know why. I mean, I don't know why
they bought it if they hated it that much.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
But look, I think it's a change that's good for
us over the long haul.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, but you can still do that, Commissioner, you can
still make an alternative jersey, but let's go back to
the old school.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, we'll have jerseys that.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
We used during the home run derby probably that I
think that's where it will land that so we will
still have the product. But it was an interesting one,
and I do think it's one of those experiments where,
you know, we did it, people spoke, we listened, and
we're back to where we were.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The Pete Rose documentary Did you watch it?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I did?
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I did.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Did you find out anything that you didn't know or
something that maybe you cared a little more about?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Look, you know, I'd spend enough time with Pete over
the years that I had a pretty good feel for
what he was about.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I think the best thing.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
About the documentaries that presented a pretty accurate picture.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Of who Pete is and was.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I mean it and he was a complicated person, combination
of appealing and unappealing aspects that you don't often find
in the human being.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
All Right, I want you to answer this so I
don't have to answer it anymore when my audience says, yeah,
but baseball is in bed with gambling, and so aren't
they being hypocritical with Pete Rose.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, here's here's how I think about that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I think it's a privilege to work in Major League
base Ball and to be a Major League Baseball player.
Often when you have a privilege, it comes with obligations.
The obligation in this case is to stay away from
gambling because it involvement with gambling by people who work
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in the game and can influence outcomes, reflects and presents
a threat.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
To the integrity of the game. So that's a category
of people.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Fans are different, you know, the government, you know, in
this case, the Supreme Court paved the way for legalization
of sports betting. Fans want to engage with the game
in that way, they present no threat to the integrity
of the game or a minimal threat to the integrity
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of the game. And as a result, we have different
rules that are played to those fans that have taken
advantage of that business opportunity. I don't see any inconsistency
between those two rules.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I really don't I worry about prop bets, Commissioner, Yeah,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I have to say we have lobbied against prop bets
in a variety of states, all the states. Actually they
are certainly more problematic then I'll come based. You know,
Google won the game kind of bets, and we have
tried to get the states to recognize that there are
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some well betting per se sports betting may be fine,
there are certain kinds of bets that are problematic.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Great to talk to. You take a victory lap. You
certainly had a great year. Major League Baseball had a
great year as well, and hopefully we get a great
World Series.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Thanks again, Thank you, Dan, so always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
That's Rob Manfred.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We made it to a Friday limping. I had the under,
but we're here. It's our one on a meat Friday.
Morale is surprisingly high. Everybody in a good mood. Oh
Seton's got his hand raised early. You're limping to the finish.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Okay, I know you had shoulder surgery, but you don't
have to limp.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It is weird though, that I was limping and I
had surgery on my shoulder right and Todd goes, why
are you limping? I go, I have no idea. Maybe
it's my left side is a little top heavy than
my right side because I have all these stitches in there.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Strange equilibrium thing going on with.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got the stitches out yesterday. Somebody didn't have. Somebody
didn't have bedside manner when I was getting my stitches out.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Well, you just want to pull them and go. You
want to chit chat?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
What's yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I just have I don't know. You walk in, I
want to talk to them. I'm a personality, you know,
just trying to make their day.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
My questions about like the twins, bullpen No.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I wanted, you know, maybe her to ask about Brownie
James or something I don't know. Could have been about
the rams sellers or buyers. Who do you like in
the World Series. I didn't get anything. I got crickets.
When I went in, I said, hey, here's your day. Fine,
no return fire of how's your day? None of that
all business. Yeah, take off your shirt. And I said, well,
(24:23):
you should say please. It didn't. It was bad. It
was bad when I said you should say please. First, Yeah,
I don't want to buy me a drink. Yeah, So
I did say that to her, and then she said
what and I said no, no, And I always have
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to go back to this.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
My wife says, not everybody gets your sense of humor,
and she goes, okay, take off your shirt. So I
took off my shirt and then they snipped the sutures
there and then pretty much sent me on my way.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
What a shooter responded with my husband says, don't make
jokes to me at work.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I would have been fine with that. I didn't want
her to think that I was hitting on her. I
was just trying to make conversation. First of all. I
don't want to be thinking about her taking these stitches out,
so I'm trying to divert our attention to something else.
This is all nerves, really, yes, yeah, yeah, Like I'm
a little jittery in there, you know, so you know,
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shoulders a little banged up, so you're gonna go in there.
I can see you with you know, whatever you're taking
the stitches out with I can see you with the scissors.
I was hit just trying to have a little little conversation,
a little bedside manner in the uh, in the in
the room.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
There.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay, so here we go, come on, now, let's get up.
Should have played this for I know now starting adguard
six foot two, doctor tan Jack, You're like, oh, alrighty,
(26:01):
it's meat Friday. In case you're wondering, here baked chicken
pot pie, very false, loaded mashed potatoes, fire pumpkin pie.
Who is it better than we do? No, buddy, buddy, yes, yes,
you know.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
There are these moments where you I don't know, at
least for me, I start to understand that, like you
know those progressive commercials where it's like becoming your parents
and like you just go home on and all of
a sudden you're making like the worst jokes ever that
I'm living in a period of time in my life
where I understand that I am becoming that person that
I'm just trying to like make my son laugh, but
(26:41):
really what I'm doing is embarrassing him.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're like, oh, I'm that guy. Now, I am that dad.
Now I have zero apologies.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Like I used to be able to say like something
was dope, and now you can't say that anymore because
now you're just the dad saying old words.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You know, that's cap.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Yeah, no, I can't say that either. That's that's too
old but also too new.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
No cap like that cap No cap?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Who capped? You got riz? Thank you, Brady Quinn from
Fox Sports. A little later on, Jason Garrett NBC Sports
will join us tonight Yankees Dodgers Game one. It's Jack
Flaherty against Garrett Cole. Rams beat the Uh you have
the Dolphins on here, PAULI I do. Yeah, I think
(27:31):
they beat the Vikings. If they beat the Dolphins and
the Vikings in one night, that should count as two
wins something. But the Rams beat the Vikings last night.
The Rams now three and four, the Vikings jumped to
five and two.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Not only put it, I put dolphins on there. I
spell dolphins wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You did. That's a double way you have dolphins.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
It's pretty much the use though.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Like I said, we're limping towards the finish line here.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Kind of ignore your typos at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
See he's good.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Degrees.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Do you want to start over again? We're cooking, Yeah, okay,
so eight seven seven three DP show email address DP
at Danpatrick dot com Twitter handle a TP show did
get the stitches out, so almost almost ready to be
at full strength.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Are you long tossing little bit?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, no, no, none of that. And she said, don't
do anything stupid. That's simulating a game. Yeah, I can't
do that.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Scranton Wilkesbury. They're sending you down.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I can't do the golf simulator. I can't. I
can't do anything nothing. But when the you know, the
doctor or the kind of assistant doctor some said don't
do anything stupid. And I said, you're going to have
to define stupid. And she goes, let nothing, no heavy lifting,
none of that. Okay, we don't want to move forward.
Then we move back and I go, okay, got it.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Yes, I just went to the dentist two days ago. Yeah,
and they said, oh, you have to come back tomorrow
to like finish up some stuff. So it's like, all right,
no problem. So I went to the front desk to
make an appointment for the next day. She's like, okay,
you want to come back tomorrow. Yeah, she's looking it
looks like the earliest appointment here.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I have is two thirty. And I went.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
And she looked at me and I was like, two thirty.
You know, it sounds like a joke at the dentist
or whatever, and she went, so does that one work
for you? Oh my gosh, Well, okay, to be fair,
she's probably gotten that joke fifteen.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Times, that one every very single day when she gives
a too thirty, What time is your dentist appointment? Too
thirty thirty? And she was not at the stat of
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So last night, the they beat the Vikings, they're now
three and four and it doesn't sound like look like
they're going to be sellers. And I think that was
a real possibility had they lost that game. Talk a
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little bit more about that. Jayden Daniels Iffy for the
Showdown with the Bears, game pitt goes to seven and
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You got LSU A and m Penn State, Wisconsin, Texas, Vandy,
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seven to three DP show. Coming into last night, the
Rams looked like they were going to be sellers. But
you got Pookin Akouop back, and you got Cooper Cup
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back and they're now three and four. So the season
far from over for the Rams. Because the NFC West,
it looked like it was the Niners, and the Niners
were going to run away with this. That's not the case.
Riddled with injuries, Cardinals, there are a few pieces slash
years away. Seattle the only team in the division with
a winning record. So the Rams, all right, maybe they're
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not Super Bowl contenders, but they're certainly contenders to make
it back to the playoffs. You got a great coach,
got a great quarterback, you got two really good wide receivers,
good running back, and becoming sellers at the trade deadline
may be a little premature for a team that has
a lot of talent, and you saw that last night. Now,
there was a play late in the game, under two
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minutes to go. Sam Darnold gets sacked in the end
zone for safety. They're down eight, now they're down ten.
There was a face mask on the play and Al
Michael's in kirk kurb Street who were doing the game,
and they described it this way, he got a hold
of something there.
Speaker 10 (31:57):
Let's see he got that face mask his shirt did yep,
And they cannot review that, but he definitely got the
face mask right there. I mean, anytime you see a
guy's head get spun backwards, something happened and he got
away with one right there.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
And blanking fans are going, what the hell.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
There's a lot of different things you can review.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Yeah, there's Jones, Jones saying, hey man, you gotta call that.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I missed it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
How about what the hell? From al ate Lean into
the evening, So up by eight, now they're up by
ten and no more drama left in the game. This
is what I don't understand if I'm to listen and
believe what the NFL says with their officials. You have
an official who was looking at the line, the line
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play offensive certainly defensive line, and then you have a
referee who's looking at the quarterback. How does one of
those two not see a lineman grabbing Sam Darnold's face
mask or just the body language of how he contorted back.
And the official whose job is to watch the quarterback,
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how do you miss that? You can't review it, and
it was an obvious face mask. Now, granted, if they're
down nine as opposed to eight, we're probably not up
in arms about this, but you do have a chance.
I don't think they had time any timeouts left, and
they had to go eighty yards and get a two
point conversion. We know all of that, but you're watching
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that and it's a standalone game and they missed it.
Not reviewable. Now, I wondered, since it was a scoring play,
is there a loophole that it's a scoring play even
though it's a safety. But there would have been a
penalty on the play. From what I'm told, you can't
review that. That's not the loophole. It's a scoring All
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scoring plays are reviewed, but you can't review a scoring
play like that because then you'd have to call a
penalty and you can't do that, so I've been told,
but I thought there might be a loophole where you go, well,
that's a scoring play. I mean, they did score two,
but you can't add a flag to a play. I thought, oh, man,
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this is going to be genius tomorrow on the show.
And then I came in and then the dan z
shot me down. They're like, no, you can't add a flag,
and I'm like, okay, fair enough, but this is one
of those moments where we see it, it's right in
front of us, and then the officials are like, I
guess we missed it. I don't know if anything to
do with face mask is going to be reviewable. I
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don't think everything should be reviewed, but I think there
are certain things that in certain situations. Now, I don't know,
under two minutes to go, can you review something challenge flag,
anything like that, something that's egregious like that and does
have a big impact on the outcome of the game.
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I thought, may this is something the NFL. All it
takes is a moment, a standalone moment. That's when the
NFL changes things. When somebody gets hurt or how they
get hurt, or a scoring play. Hey, we're going to
review push tush. We're going to review all of these things.
That's what it takes. They never go, you know, what,
what happens. If this happens, it's always that happened. Now
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they react to it. I don't know if they change
next year where they go, Hey, any face mask or
questionable face mask penalties, we're going to make those reviewable.
I don't want everything reviewed, but given gambling, I think
you got to be careful. You know, you got to
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air to the side of We did everything we could
do to look at this, investigate this to get the
call right. But I don't want everything under review, yes, Pauline.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Social media last night had a lot of reaction like this.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
People thought that NFL has this sky judge system in
place for just this type of situation, tight game situation
with a clearly missed call, and they called down to
the officials before and a lot of people think that
that's a part of the NFL. While you say rightly
that they can't review this play, it does seem in
the past two years there's been a little sky Judge,
New York call down fix things movement and why didn't
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happen here? That was a lot of people on social
media last night.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Here's Kevin O'Connell, the Viking's head coach.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
What did you think of the non call on the
parent face mask therapy?
Speaker 11 (36:28):
And yeah, you know, it looked like you got a
pretty good amount of face mask there. Not going to
get into the call or no call and all that stuff.
It's just I told our team officiating and all that stuff.
For us to talk about that, for us to seek
comfort in that is not how we're going to respond
to this. It's just not going to happen. And I'm
going to do the same thing right now.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I really don't have a comment on whether.
Speaker 11 (36:51):
It was a It looked like you got a piece
of the face mask, but they didn't think so, so
they didn't throw the flag.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, he doesn't want to get fined there. You don't
have to necessarily read between the lines. You know exactly
what he's saying here. When Stafford Williams they're running back,
Cooper Cup, Pukainakua have all been in the lineup. The
Rams are seven and three in average nearly twenty eight
points per game and nearly four hundred yards of offense
per game. That's where you if they stay healthy, they
(37:21):
can win this division. I thought they were a playoff
team when the season started. You have injuries. Everybody has injuries.
Now you got guys getting healthy. I know there was
talk about Cooper Cup being traded. He could still be traded,
but from what I was told, my source said if
they lost that game last night, then Cooper Cup was
probably going to be dealt. I mean, that's a very
(37:44):
fine line here because they're game back, Seattle's leading the division,
the Niners are banged up, Arizona probably not going anywhere.
I think Seattle's a really good team, but you still
have a chance. It's hard to be a seller when
you're that close to maybe winning the division. But we
saw that with the Rams last night. You got a
(38:06):
great coach. Stafford was wonderful last night. Nikua and Cooper
Cup awesome when they're healthy and obviously dangerous
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