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October 28, 2024 41 mins

Dan thinks the Bears loss to the Commanders on a Hail Mary yesterday indicates bigger problems in the Bears’ organization. And college football insider Paul Finebaum stops by to talk about the latest weekend of college football action.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hour this Monday, and this has moved fast. We'll talk
to Paul Finebaum. He'll join us coming up here in
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The guest list a lot of great things. The back
room guys do a wonderful job. So the Dodgers up
two to zero and the Yankees they're favored tonight. Sho
Heyo Tani injured but will play. And Freddy Freeman has

(01:11):
been crushing so certainly helps. I think the last time
somebody homered in the first two games of a World Series,
Big Poppy twenty thirteen. I believe so, Freddie Freeman with
the walk off Grand Slam, and Aaron Judge has been
pedestrians so far. This is where you get stats sometimes,
and it's always misleading. The last team to come back

(01:33):
from a two oz deficit to win the World Series
nineteen ninety six Yankees who beat the Braves. Now, there's
nobody on that ninety six team who's playing now. But
we say, hey, the Yankees did this before. This has
nothing to do with nineteen ninety six. Jim Layritz is
not going to be taking now bat it. That's a

(01:54):
nice poll, wow, Jim Leyrich. Yes, So John Wetland isn't
He's not closing.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
John Wetland.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Charlie Hayes, Charlie Hayes' third basic Hayes was a boss here.
He was he played you know, was Scott Rochus?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Did you no? Sious? Was he on that team?

Speaker 4 (02:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Because if Charlie was playing third.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I think he was like two thousand and two thousand
and one.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh he was. Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
One of the coolest things, though, I have to admit,
is when they do go around the infield, when they
do roll call. That is that is one of the
cooler things in sports, and they do a wonderful job.
Not a Yankee fan, but I did like that when
I heard that, and going back to you know, the

(02:38):
playoffs in the early two thousands where you would hear
that and it was just cool.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was just a cool moment there. Yeah, Paul quickly.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
The ninety six Yankees had a real group of randos
on that roster besides the guys you know, like Tino
Martinez and Jerry Cheater, but they had Wade Boggs was
on that team. You kind of forget. Tim Rains was
on that team. Rocklayins essel Fielder was on that team
for a stretch. Whoa Darryl Strawberry was on that squad.

(03:05):
Those are random. So those guys all got World Series rings.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, and Don Mattingly retired the year before and Donnie misses.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Out the cruelest, cruelest thing, Dwight Gooden got eleven wins
for that team.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Okay, that's nuts. Yeah, what a random But didn't Doc
throw no hitter for the Yankees that year.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
That whole run. David Conk threw one through one.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, Cony has his stuff is similar to Yamamoto. Cony
had really really great stuff. Sometimes you can have a
guy who has too much movement and watching Yamamoto and
once again, I love that center field camera shot because
you're going, that is if we're looking at it and

(03:49):
we're amazed. Do you imagine being at the plate and
you're going, I got to.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Try to hit that damn thing.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
All right, So temperatures in the low fifties for tonight's game.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
The Eagles are quietly.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like they're moving along with no drama, and we know
that there's drama.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's sort of like a.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Duck top of the water swan is going, oh, everything
is good. Paddling though really hard, it feels like you
know they're doing the right things. That's a really good
win to beat a desperate Cincinnati team, and Jalen Hurts
played well. They're they're kind of forgotten, and that's a

(04:28):
good thing because we're not talking about the quarterback coach
relationship the Browns over the Ravens. Of course we all
saw that, right Here's Kevin Stefanski, the Browns head coach.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
I thought he played well. I thought the protection was
outstanding all day. I thought the guys really took the
challenge of that. And I thought he got through his
reads and the guys got open. He made good decisions.
Wasn't perfect. You know, he's not going to play perfect.
I'm not going to coach perfect. But I thought he
played well.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Jameis Winston, now he should have had too interceptions. He
should have thrown an interception that would have ended their
chances for a comeback.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
But they did win.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
At least he's aggressive, and with Deshaun Watson not there,
you know, they were very vanilla when he was in there.
You have Flacco who threw for three hundred yards five
times when he was with the Browns. Winston throws for
over three hundred yards. That's what you need. Take some
chances here, and they did beating the Ravens. The Cards

(05:27):
are an interesting team.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Kyler Murray has played well.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yes, I don't think they're a good team, but I
think when he plays, he can elevate them to being
a good team. Packers get by the Jags and then
Niners last night over the Cowboys. You're going to look
at those stats by Dak and you're going to go,
all right, okay, no, don't do that, because that's really
mop up time. Bears lose at the buzzer and it

(05:58):
sounded like this form with.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
The goal on, they bring free, Daniel's backing up, gets
himself of time, now steps up, fires heads towards the
end zone.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It okay, that's the commander's booth. That's on some You

(06:34):
could be at somebody's house and they probably would have
sounded just like that. You could be in some dude's
garage and it would have sounded like that. That's a
big one hundred commander's radio network. And in case you're wondering,
and I know you are, how did the Bears radio
network sound?

Speaker 9 (06:50):
Jaded Daniels sitting back being pressured.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Jaden Daniels hemmed into.

Speaker 9 (06:55):
The pocket looking for blockers, watches deep pass into the
area and it's caught by Noah Brown. He was the
chip man and this place has now gone into Petland.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Mold washy tenth put the miracle.

Speaker 9 (07:10):
Finish for a place seventy six.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yards and twenty five stinking seconds on real thinking.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh, inexcusable, inexcusable, I think what will get lost and
it shouldn't is the play before the play and Romo
points this out. So Romo says, look, they got no timeouts.
You can get maybe ten twelve thirteen yards go out
of bounds. You're gonna have two seconds left. That's exactly
what they had. Jayden Daniels couldn't even get to the
end zone from where they were on the final play

(07:42):
of the game. I don't know how you don't guard
the sidelines, let him catch whatever they want in the
field of play because they don't have timeouts, and after
they get the first down, they move the sticks. If
you're the Bears, you call timeout. Guys, come here, let's
get together. I need somebody behind all of the offensive players,

(08:04):
somebody in front, and then we start boxing out every
man for himself. They're not going to call interference here,
and they're not going to call holding on the offensive line,
and we're not going to spy Jaden Daniels because what
does that matter. He's not running. Either send another blitzer
or have another guy back. So what they do none

(08:25):
of those and that's why they lost, and they deserve
to lose. And I don't want to hear oh how
many holding penalties could you have called on the last play.
They're not calling them if you put yourself in that position.
They're not calling holding, and they're not calling pass interference.

Speaker 10 (08:40):
Yes, mar I think this game definitely helped the Commanders
get back into the national consciousness. The rest of this
year and going into next year, they're going to be
poised to be a real primetime team where they're going
to get two or three Monday night football Sunday night
football games for sure.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I mean Jaden Daniels changed this team, and that's
saying a lot. We're waiting for Caleb Williams to change
the Bears. He hasn't been able. I think the Bears
have more talent than the Commanders do. Caleb Williams hasn't
made a big enough difference. Like Jayden, Daniels is being
mentioned as an MVP candidate now you might say a

(09:17):
distant one. He's being mentioned as an MVP candidate. He
gives you an extra value. He's calm under pressure and
even after the game, he's very calm.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
He was chill.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
But that's where you've been the starting quarterback for two
different teams in college. You played against good competition. You
come in a little more season and a little older
and you're ready to go. And we've seen that Mark
in Myrtle Beach. Hi, Mark, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (09:53):
Hey, Dan, good morning to day and that what's happening
is a great Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
You must be a commander's fan.

Speaker 11 (10:00):
Well you know a Dan, but you know two. I
got two really good things happened this weekend, and I
am a commander's fan. But I have two good things
I want, and I got a question for you and
the dan Nete. My first thing good thing one of
the weekend was Saturday, was the fighting Irish sneaking back
into the top ten and their defense proven that it's

(10:21):
good enough to win a championship. And my second favorite one,
you're right, Dan, it's the Messiah throwing hail to the Redskins,
pass to Noah's Ark Brown. And my question is you
asked the dan Nets with y'all you Last year I

(10:42):
called you Dan, and during the football season you said
that I said the Redskins have one win. I said
that I thought they were going to win the division.
You said, Mark, you're on an island by yourself, and
you were absolutely right. Dan, I was on an alabamaself
for the whole season without my son, my daughter, I mean,
my granddaughters, and my wife.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
But this year, Hey, I loved him from beginning, I said,
I really them and the Falcons were the two teams
that I really really liked out of nowhere. And and
Dan Quinn's done a wonderful job there. You know, they
have a pulse. They're relevant, that's what you want. I mean,
their relevancy had to do with their ownership and all

(11:24):
the stuff that was happening. They were a bad football
team and you had the worst owner in all the sports.
And you know, if you could have the second coming
of Donald Sterling, you did a pretty good job. Now
they're trying to clean up things. I like the uniforms.
I like Jayden Daniels. I'm not big on that field.
That turf, I don't know. It always looks like it's

(11:47):
ready to tear up or something. Didn't RG three get
hurt on that turf? Was that in the postseason?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
A lot of gaps? Yeah? Yeah, long time ago.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
All right, pull question for the final hour of the
program going to be Watchet o' connor.

Speaker 12 (12:03):
Let me update you again, Dan on this the one
we currently have because there is a lot of jockeying
for position.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
People really believe.

Speaker 12 (12:10):
That the Jets are absolutely having the worst weekend.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay, absolutely terrible. The Dwayne Wade statue maker has really
taken off since we did that.

Speaker 12 (12:19):
Look in, let's use playoff chances. Not too bad, Dak
and the Cowboys, they're towards the bottom. Nobody's too bummed
about Anthony Richardson or the Ravens losing. It's pretty top
heavy at this point.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, Anthony Richardson, I just thought that there should have
been a mercy rule for playing poorly.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
And I think at one time.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
He was two for sixteen or two for eighteen. He
just doesn't belong out there, not yet. And just because
you have the talent doesn't mean you can play the position.
He is proof of that. But Joe Flacco is a
better quarterback than him, just like Joe Flacco was a
better quarterback than Deshaun Watson. Not more talented, but a
better quarterback. And there's a difference in that understanding how

(13:01):
to play, and that was evident. Colts could have won
that game. Uh, Jake and Colorado, Hey Jake, what's on
your mind?

Speaker 13 (13:11):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
DP?

Speaker 14 (13:12):
I enjoyed listening to the hot take about Dion Sanders
and Shaduur going to the Jets, And after you guys
hung up, I started thinking about it, and I said, Okay,
Rogers has got one more year on his contract. You
bring in Shador. He sits behind Rogers, and there's got
to be an unbelievably short list of people who would

(13:34):
be able to put Aaron Rodgers in his place and
tell him how to play the position if he needed to,
and that'd be prime. I just kind of laughed at
the whole thing, and I still think it'd be a boondoggle,
but it kind of made sense.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I got to have a clean slate, though, Jake, And
first you got to remember this. If Shador is going
number one overall, you have to have that number one
overall pick. Then you could make a decision on Dion.
You can't bring in Dion and all of a sudden
to get his son if that were the case. But
if I would not want this job, I do not
want it. With the baggage that's there, the ownership that's there.

(14:08):
You're gonna have a new GM, you're gonna have a
new coach. You still have Aaron Rodgers. There, I got
Davante Adams at the end of his career. Sauce Gardner
has not lived up to the expectations. I just I
don't want that. If I'm taking the job, I can't
go you know what, this is going to be a
great job in a year.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
You can't go in coaching.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
That way because there's no guarantee it's going to be
any better next season. Because Aaron Rodgers is blaming everybody
and he's going back into the darkness.

Speaker 15 (14:43):
Yeah, I've been in the darkness. You got to go
in there, make peace with it. Offensively, our goal has
just got to be score thirty. Doesn't matter what the
the two sides are doing. You know, we have trust
in our defense and teams, but if we're not scoring thirty,
I wander achievement. This offense can do that every single week.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Okay, gotta make peace, make peace with the darkness.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Gotta go in there sometimes just.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Deal with it.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's way too zen waku, way too hiku for me.

Speaker 9 (15:18):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
You got to go in there and you gotta make
peace with the darkness.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I mean, without darkness, there can be no light.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Right the fact, So I go into the darkness to
then come out in the light and then I find
what I'm looking for. Mister Miyagi, do I go into
the darkness? How long do I stay in the darkness
before I make peace? What if darkness doesn't want to
make peace with me? I'm gonna have to ask McAfee

(15:48):
about this.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
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Speaker 2 (15:51):
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He's a flamethrow, he's a hot teaker. We're gonna ask
him who the A and M coach is talking about
after the win against LSU, and we'll ask him about
could he see Dion coaching the Jets if he had

(16:12):
a chance to coach his son?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Been waiting all morning long for a call from James
in Virginia. We'll talk to him coming up in a
little bit. He had a hard time getting through to
talk about his commanders after the big win against the Bears,
eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle a DP show. We should have called James
in Virginia after that comeback win by his commanders. He's

(16:51):
Paul Finebaum, host of the Paul Finebaum Show, Voice of
the SEC, joining us on the program. All right, let's
put this to bed. A and M big win against LSU.
Mike Elko, the head coach at A and M, after
the game, has some things to say. I don't know
if a reporter said, coach, who were you talking about?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
But let's play it.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Then you can tell us who you think Mike Elko
is taking a shot at.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
We're very honest, we're very open, and this is a
real program. It's not fake. It's not a politician running
this program talking fast and BS and everybody. This is
a real program. And for all the recruits out there,
this is a real place. And if you want to
be really good at football, this is a really good
place to be.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Who are the candidates Paul that he could be talking about. Well,
first of.

Speaker 16 (17:40):
All, you don't have to be a PhD from the
Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting to know the answer to this.
So I'll eliminate the candidates and name only one. He
is referring to one, Jimbo Fisher, one of the biggest
bs ers in the history of college football and not
a very good politician, and a man who walked away

(18:02):
a year ago next week with thinking seventy seven million
dollars not to coach this team that Mike Elko is
coaching exquisitely. So it didn't mean to give you such
a long answer to an easy question.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, we didn't know if he was taken a shot
at Brian Kelly because he coached with Brian for a
year at Notre Dame. I didn't know if he was
taking a shot at Dion Sanders. So thank you for
clearing that up, all right. The number of teams that
are playoff worthy, the number of teams that are in
contention to win it all, how big a disparity do

(18:37):
you have with that?

Speaker 16 (18:39):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's something like twenty nine
schools right now competing for twelve birth. It gets a
little complex because of the naturally convoluted system that the
CFP has. We're not identifying the twelve best, we're figuring
out conference champions. But I think we're about to get
into the point of the schedule, we're getting off eliminators

(19:00):
Like Saturday, Missouri went away. They only have two losses,
but they're not coming back. I mean they've lost I
think seventy five to ten and their two biggest games
this year and they have their biggest win is Boston College.
So the next big one comes in twelve days with
the aforementioned Brian Kelly, you have Alabama and Ler Shoe.

(19:22):
This is a loser is done, the winner stays alive,
and very likely we'll get in. So we're going to
see a series of games like this. I mean everything
is not equal, but just within the big ten the SEC.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
There are more.

Speaker 16 (19:38):
I mean nobody had Indiana, nobody looked at Pittsburgh from
the ACC and quite frankly, nobody had Texas, A and
M in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I know, when we went to the twelve team playoff,
I had a lot of pushback and I was probably
in the minority. I said, this makes the regular season
more relevant. More teams have hope. All you know, all
you want to do is get into the big dance
in March Madness.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
That's it. You just want to be able to say
we're in.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
You know, we got past the velvet ropes and we
got in And I think having games that mean something
in November is something that we have missed here. Where
do you stand with where we are with twelve? And
how long does it take to get to twenty four?

Speaker 16 (20:23):
It will keep growing. Just let me refer you to
the NCAA Basketball Tournament. It was thirty two and now
it's how they're trying to get ninety six. It makes
too much sense. We used to spend November figuring out
bad conference divisional matchups, which in the Big Ten and
the SEC, we're always one sided because there was the

(20:45):
one dominant. Now it is fascinating and I think we're
in for a really extraordinary month. And I'm not sitting
here as a heighte machine for SEC on ABC. It's
doing quite well, by the way. But every conference is
going to have these games, and you know, especially when

(21:06):
there is literally a playoff berth on the line. It's
an old saying, Dan, but I mean we are College
football is now entering that NFL phase where even the
conference championship games won't determine a playoff then, but they
will determine who has a buy and maybe home field
advantage that matters as you well know.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
All right, I know it's been a few weeks. It's
hard to keep track of where you stand on Dion Sanders.

Speaker 16 (21:33):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It's not the toughest schedule, but you know, you don't
get style points.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
You just win.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
And with Travis being out for a while or being
banged up, and you know, Shardoor Sanders is playing well
and maybe the you know, a Heisman winner.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
But how good is Colorado?

Speaker 16 (21:53):
They're a lot better than the last time I was
here then when we were both lamenting. Can they just
win a couple of four games? It has been remarkable
to watch and maybe we shouldn't have been surprised when
when you have two of the three or four best
players in the country. But they're not beating what I
would call high quality teams. But but they are winning. Uh,

(22:15):
And they'll get a couple of opportunities. I mean, I
think that what they need. I mean, they're at a bowl game,
which is great, but now, I mean they've got a
very narrow path to the Big twelve Championship. I wouldn't
I wouldn't put my stamp on it right now, but
the fact that it's almost November uh, and there's still
a relevant conversation piece as opposed to what they were

(22:35):
last year. A freak show. I think is very significant.
And you know, I know one of my colleagues and
one of your former colleagues has been clapping for Dion
to the national Coach of the Year. I think Mike
Elko might be a slightly better choice right now, or
or a number of other coaches, like like Kurt Signetti

(22:55):
at Indiana. But but I do think that Dion has
quieted everyone, including me. I mean, I've been in traction
for three weeks trying to have myself on the back
or flip flop from all the different takes. But that's
the damn that's sports, Okay, I mean, why I apologize,
Just come up with.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
A new day.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
He's Paul Finbaum hosted the Paul Finbaum Show. Well, that
leads me into where do you stand with Lincoln Riley
and USC. It's been a while since we talked about
that situation.

Speaker 16 (23:23):
Yeah, very little has changed there. He's still a fraud
as an elite major college coach. He's had one or
two decent wins, including the LSU game, but there's just
been too many drop games at at nowhere sits in
the Big Ten for me to believe in him. I

(23:43):
think it won't be this year because there's too much
invested in him. But I think anyone with twenty one
hundred vision or below can see that he's not going
to last very long as the sc head coach.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
We're seeing something that's now becoming there's enough of a
ample size of teams, you know, crossing a couple of
time zones here, especially going out to the West Coast,
than the success rate or lack thereof. This is something
that is going to be there for the Big Ten.
If you're like, how do you think coaches can better

(24:16):
prepare for the traveling part of this in this conference.

Speaker 16 (24:21):
Well, I'm sure they'll be talking to all the experts
in the off season about bio rhythms DAN, but ultimately
they just have to get out there a day early
and become acclimated. It's not unusual. We see it in
the NFL every week. We see it in every sport.
I think it's doable, although we haven't seen many of
them done. Have to do a better job of scheduling too.

(24:45):
I don't know if you stay out there for two weeks,
which seems like it might make sense. But then again,
the quote unquote student athletes would would be missing valuable
class time, wouldn't they.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yes, they would be, Yes, they would be.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I can't remember a season where I didn't think we
a front runner for the Heisman, and I didn't think
we had a front runner for being the best team
in the country.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Can can you? And it might be a good thing, Paul,
But can you remember when we had sort of I'm
not quite sure who's who and what's what. No, it's
hard the Heisman.

Speaker 16 (25:17):
I mean we usually declare that in July and then
readjust and I think I think Travis Hunters is the
X factor there. If he's healthy and he's playing in
semi significant games, I think he's going to be the
last man standing. All these other guys are great, but
he's the biggest name. And as far as the best team, no,

(25:38):
there really isn't one. We've had four number ones already.
I believe I'm moving back towards Georgia, even though I
got off their bandwagon quickly, like like every other bandwagon
I've gotten off of this year. But I think I'm
back on there now. Just by the way, when you
get off a bandwagon. Never give up your by your seat,
don't don't gitive it away because there's always time to

(26:00):
get back on. I've learned that working at ESPN, Dan.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
What's the fan base that has a real problem with
you more than any other one.

Speaker 16 (26:09):
It was Michigan last year under Harball, because that story
was for three years, and I mean they were fairly belligerent.
It comes and goes, I mean within the sec let's
either sixteen. Give me a minute on that. I'll come
over with a long list. But I have the one

(26:30):
I've been around the longest is Alabama, and they can
be very difficult. But the one thing I'll say about Alabama,
I was there over the weekend in tuscaloosave that fan
base was on the verge of a revolt with calin
de bor. But it just took a thirty four to
nothing went over a halpitalist Missouri team with no quarterback

(26:51):
for them to now be back and dust it and
winning at all.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
That's how quickly it changes.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, I don't think you know cover this sport the
way you do, obviously, but I like I have Tennessee
fans mad because I you know, reported that they were
paying recruits in fast food bags years ago, and I
wasn't doing it. I just broke the news that a
coach who was involved in it told me that that's

(27:16):
how they were paying recruits come onto the campus. Here's
money in a in a bag of McDonald's bag, or
you know whatever Wendy's.

Speaker 12 (27:26):
I was in.

Speaker 16 (27:27):
I was in Knoxville a week ago, Dan, and you're right,
they're still.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Mad at it.

Speaker 16 (27:33):
But the best way to get a college football fan
mad at you is not to pick their team, which
is one reason. When I used to work in Birmingham
the year after SAVING got there, I picked Alabama literally
from two thousand and eight until until two years ago
in Knoxville when when they beat when Tennessee beat them,
I mean, that's that's a lifetime. I never went against them,

(27:56):
and people say, well, that's crazy, you're.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Being a homer.

Speaker 16 (27:58):
You know what, I didn't miss her many times. I
think I missed about eight times in seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, good to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Stay on those or stay off those bandwagons, whatever, it is.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Good to talk to you.

Speaker 13 (28:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Paul Finebaumb, host of The Paul Finebaumb Show, the Voice
of the SEC and you'll see him sec Nation. He's
a busy guy Saturday mornings. And a couple more phone
calls in here, Griffin and Cincinnati is back. Hi, Griff,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (28:29):
Well a lot, Dan, I got a best and worst
of the weekend. I'll start with the best, though, the
Hoosiers Indiana remaining undefeated and undaunted. Back up QBO Hoosiers,
so they are they're crushing it, just trying to stay
undefeated until we get to Columbus. Now, from the Hoosiers
to the who days, Dan, they are dead.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Dead.

Speaker 13 (28:52):
Bengals are dead, and it sucks because we have, in
my opinion, the second best quarterback in the league, not
just this year, but we're all Mahomes will be first obviously.
But it's an ownership problem, family run business. It's been
bad for years and years and now it's mass behind
two great years of going to the super Bowl in

(29:12):
the AFC Championship. I mean, we're more like the Jets
than anybody else in the NFL. You look at Jets
in like two thousand nine, two ten, they have those
two great years. Nothing outside of that. No hope for
the Bengals right now. We're dead. It sucks. I love
Joe Burrow, love Chase, pay your players, draft and develop
and figure it out. Dam but it's bad times in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
All right, Griff, thank you. Look who we have. It's
James in Virginia.

Speaker 17 (29:42):
It's my call brother. Happy Monday, DP Day, and then
salute the commanders. Man, you know, I didn't really get
to see the game. Did something crazy happened? I mean,
then you can fill me in. I mean, we we
had a wonderful Sunday, man. We went to home depot,
We looked at the wallpaper, almost bought some Florence, couldn't
couldn't get to bed, bathroom beyond. We just didn't have
enough time, you know what I mean. No, man, it

(30:04):
was an amazing ending to the game. Washington definitely pulled
it out. They dominated the game the whole game, and
it looked like the Bears were gonna steal it at
the end, and a miracle happened.

Speaker 16 (30:17):
Man.

Speaker 17 (30:17):
It's just something crazy. It's something that can propel a
team forward six and two, number two seed in the
NFC right now. I was telling a friend last night,
I mean, outside of Detroit, I don't know who really
up scares you. So I mean it's possible dp we
might be seeing each other in February. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Man.

Speaker 17 (30:35):
We see what happened.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Easy there, James pumped the brakes.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
James and Virgin a wonderful day. Thank you, Thank you, James.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I can't imagine what he must have been like, you know,
when that balls up in the air and then all
of a sudden ricochet touchdown.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
The hail Maryland.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yes, PAULI you're right though, I do root for guys
like him, like when their teams do well. You're like,
I bet he's having a great day.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, And I think I kind of root against Shaye
and Irving because he's far more entertaining when his cowboys lose.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
But here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
He invited me to his house a few weeks ago,
and I was on his podcast and then he said, Danny,
when are you going to invite me to her house?
So I said to my wife, I said, hun, we
have to have Shaye and Irving over.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
And she goes why, I said, well, because he invited
me over.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
She goes, Okay, I said, you know, I'm going to
invite his wife, but I'm tell him keep his daughters
at home, just so you know. Because his youngest is
wild and so he's coming over tomorrow. But the Cowboys
just lost, so he didn't sound like he was going
to be a great dinner mate tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (31:50):
Yeah, Shaye is already that full of bravado and his
team is terrible. Could you imagine if if the Cowboys
were actually good? That it would be unbearable.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I find a lot of people are born into fandom
that you don't have a choice, Like it's you know,
child abuse by parents, you know sports child abuse by
You're going to be a Jets fan, okay, daddy, and
then all of a sudden you're old enough to realize,
why did.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
You do that to me? I ran into a guy
who's a Jets.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Fan and they hadn't even played yet yesterday, and he's miserable.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
He goes, I know it's going to end horribly. I
know it is.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I just the question is how does it end horribly?
And it's ended horribly year after year after year after
and I'm going it's okay. He goes, no, it's not.
I didn't ask for this. I was born into this.
And I said, well, why don't you get an NFC team?
He goes, I have one. I have the forty nine ers.

(32:55):
They break my heart too.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'm like, dude, therapy, It's okay, yes, Marv.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Why can't these people leave their teams?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I think if you've gone through this much hardship, now
you bail. Because if you said to that to a
Cubs fan, just bail, just bail. And if you bailed
and then the Cubs win the World Series, if by
some chance, the Cowboys win a Super Bowl in the
next ten years, or the Jets happened to I don't know,

(33:32):
win a game.

Speaker 12 (33:33):
Yeah, you can't just jump on a team and then
be like, truly celebrate when you win.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think because it doesn't actually matter that much when
you lose.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Let's say your team was the Saint Louis Rams and
they go to LA. Now you get a new team.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I think that that we allow that hall pass.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, PAULI, you're right though, the idea of being a
lifelong fan and say I'm going to convert at fifty,
the fear is your team will win it the day
for you convert as a Bears fan our Cubs fan.
In twenty sixteen, the entire playoffs was one long stomach ache,
and when they'd score, run, the stomach would get lessened
for a couple innings. It was not an enjoyable experience

(34:13):
till they won it.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yes, Todd and good or.

Speaker 10 (34:15):
Bed you have all those childhood memories going with family
and friends to games and jerseys and.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Stuff all over the house and everything.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
Whether they end up winning it or not, you feel
like you've invested so much mental energy in that team.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
How do you be very weird to just all of
a sudden stuff rooting for another team?

Speaker 11 (34:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (34:30):
Seton, Yeah, I mean I became a Patriots fan ninety
five percent because of the bit And yeah it was fun,
like they won a bunch of world a bunch of
Super Bowls and stuff, and you're like, yeah, this is awesome.
And then when they did this kind of like, eh,
that's all right. Yeah, it didn't really bother me all
that much because it's not real, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
All right, let me take a break, last call for
phone calls.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
What we learn, what's in store tomorrow? How about we
write tomorrow's headlines today? You can either pick the football
or the World Series. We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Here's one for you. Good friend of mine has a
daughter and her name is his team's nickname. His daughter's
name is Jet, so he has like every Jet helmet
it feels like they ever had in his office. But

(35:38):
you imagine every time you look at your daughter, you
see that it's your Jets. You named her after the Jets. Hey,
how'd you get your name?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
My dad?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
He's a Jets fan. That's mean spirited. Also, here's something
for you now. I don't know if you've thought about this.
Last game, Lebron James passed Kobe Bryant for the most
missed shots in NBA history. Now let's put it into
perspective here. Lebron played in one hundred and forty seven

(36:09):
more games and took over thirty one hundred more shots
to get to that, and scored almost seven thousand more points.
So yes, he did pass Kobe in missed shots. But
there are some other things that you got to throw
in there, just to put it in perspective of what

(36:30):
Lebron has been able to accomplish. And they're undefeated. I
still think people are losing sight of This is Lebron
in his twenty second year. It's not like Robert Parrish
still trying to play, even Vince Carter. This is Lebron
who's still wanted the top ten to fifteen players in
the game, and that should be celebrated.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
It won't be.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It'll be about Bronni James. So Bronni's going on the
road trip. Then he goes down to the G League.
And it makes sense because the Lakers will play in
Cleveld and it's a pretty cool moment Lebron in Cleveland
with Bronnie James. Everybody is just, you know, sideways on this.
It's okay, it's not the end of the world. Nobody

(37:13):
cares about the regular Now we care about the regular season.
Now we care about the Lakers' rotations. Bronnie's taken away minutes.
It's not a big deal. Does it keep Lebron engaged?
That's the point I keep trying to make. He wants
to play, he's playing well, he's got his son there.
His son will come back up. He's the twelfth man
on the team. It's not the end of the world.

Speaker 10 (37:34):
Yes, Mark, Yeah, Bronni's going to the G League. A
novel idea second round pick that's going to spend time
in the G League.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yes, and everybody else. I said that from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
That's where he's a G league player, letting get some seasoning.
He hasn't played a lot of basketball, not on a
high level, going back to even college. All right, this
day and sports history, Paulie.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Punter named Fats Henry not nice nineteen twenty three, was
credited with a ninety four yard punt. Fat's Henry.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I know you can get away with that. Now, can
you call them fats? Yeah? Maybe it's self declared fatty.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, you don't see that a lot. Let's see.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Nineteen ninety seven, the NBA announced that they had hired
the first women to officiate a major league all male
sporting event. Women were d Caantner and Violet Palmer nineteen
ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah INBA, Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing violence.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Here's one twenty sixteen. This guy had fifty one points,
thirteen rebounds, ten assists, the first fifty point triple doubles
since Kareem in nineteen seventy five. If you said Russell
Westbrook Junior the third you would be correct. He's not
an upgrade for the Denver Nuggets. I hate to break
it to you, Denver. Your team is not good this year.

(38:49):
You're not championship caliber. They inure their face, they're not.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
They're not. They did. This is where they're going to
look back.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
You have the best player in basketball, and I don't
think you've surrounded him with a great roster. Let me see,
let's right, the headline tomorrow's headline today, Todd either the
football game of the baseball game.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yanks a lot Judge, doom and Broom and Bronx.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Okay, it's pretty good doom and Broom Seaton who hates this? Right?
Tomorrow's headline today, six and ow.

Speaker 12 (39:27):
Steelers survive ugly Wilson performance to stay at.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Top the AFC North.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, kind of wordy Nixon Ow, Marvin Mookie does the
right thing.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Dodgers win in New York.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Okay, all right, little Spike Lee call back there against Spikes.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yankees Paulie Buehler. Buehler, no day off.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Walker takes down the Yankees.

Speaker 12 (39:50):
Okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
James Walker Buler.

Speaker 12 (39:55):
It's like a Ferris Bueller yeah deep cut, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Chicago movie.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program, Todd,
Would you learn today.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Aaron Rodgers has been in the darkness?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Problem is he ain't got no candle larned to the
flash flaw, Thank you, doctor Phil. Problem is you got
a fish in.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
A fish tang.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
He ain't got no candle of flashlight. He can't see
in the dark yank the Jets do, and.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
So he got a fish tang he ain't got ain't fish?
Uh Seaton? Would you learn Dwayne Wade's statue maker by
far had the worst week? Man?

Speaker 10 (40:26):
Marvin paul Fine Palm's back on the Colorado train.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah me, not on USC's train, Pauline.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
The Bears only win our poll questions?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Uh, Todd, whit did I learn?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Julian Charleston referred to watching as the command Skins.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Never heard that one.

Speaker 9 (40:44):
I know.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
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