November 4, 2024 • 55 mins
Talkin' Jake is breaking down all the reasons the Yankees lost the World Series, the Dodgers' quotes about the Yankees' sloppiness, his excitement for this Free Agent class, and recapping the NFL Weekend that Was
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0:00 Dodgers Won the World Series
5:30 LA Embarrassed the Yankees
9:30 Rizzo-Cole Play
20:15 The Dodgers are a MUCH Better Team and Now They're Talking
30:00 EXCITED For This Free Agency
34:55 NFL Recap
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Waken Jake myself, Jake's story Ellie,
a known Yankee fan and a known loser, circling up
on the wide world of sports, but mostly need to
put a final bow tie on the Dodgers winning the
World Series. You know, it's kind of funny coming into today.
(00:22):
It was a quiet weekend New York Marathon, daylight savings time,
kind of getting away from baseball, try to get away
from sports. But I like sports did finish two shows.
We'll talk about that later. But yeah, we'll put a
final bow tie on Yankees Dodgers because I haven't really
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done that yet. I mean, it's kind of funny. We
talk about the series so much between Wake and Jake
Talking Baseball, Talking Yanks, and then we recorded our final
Talking Yanks episode live from the stadium and put that out.
So that's just sadness and anger just coming through the
(01:07):
mics with everything we got while trying to be thankful
and appreciative for everything.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, as raw and fresh as you can get.
The formula, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Part of the formula that made it our most watched
Talking Yanks episode by a mile. And then so go home.
Sad might have had a sad beer in the street
with Jose McFly after the game. Sure, go home, you know,
probably sleep from four thirty am till nine thirty am.
(01:42):
Wake up, do talking baseball again. Give the Dodgers their
flowers while also still being sad and angry about a
baseball team, which you know, I don't know whether it's
cool or not anymore. It's it's kind of funky that
it's tied into company and business now that I think
the new phrase that we've learned as a company is
(02:05):
that if the Yankees win, one fan base likes that.
If the Yankees lose, a lot of fan bases like that,
that our streaming views and our final episode and everything
like that. If the Yankees lose, there's actually more numbers
for us. That's a sick game. But I'm still a
(02:25):
fan and I want the Yankees to win. So we
will go through some of the final notes, because the
last time I talked to you guys here, it was
three to one, and the Yankees had just a little
bit of momentum, just a little bit of juice, and
you wondered if it we wondered if it meant anything.
It did for four innings and then it didn't. And man,
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the Dodgers. A couple of these Dodger players are bearing
the Yankees, Joe, Kelly, Keike, Hernandez, couple of Red Sox Dodgers.
How do you like that? The scouting report came out
and it was every Yankee fans fear. So let's do that.
Not gonna do too much other baseball stuff, to be honest,
(03:12):
my brain is kind of foggy and still not wired
there yet. I haven't even gotten in the Yankees offseason plans.
I know a little bit of the free agent crop,
obviously talking about it throughout the year, but I haven't
like locked into that mode yet. A little bit of sadness.
Did watch NFL football this weekend, So we'll wrap up
(03:33):
with that, and I guess somewhere in between, I'll tell
you guys about the shows. And I'm wearing my blitz
Ball Battle five jersey team baggage that starts tonight November.
What's today, November fourth? If you're listening on our Warehouse
Games channel, and we've actually got a little preview for
(03:53):
you right now, blitz Ball Battle five Game one.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It is a true classic team baggage.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We got ice.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
We haven't seen this since the first ever game of
Blitzball Battle one. This game is gonna be one for
the ages. I've said it. These two teams have got
something to prove. We got Ice. They've been the favorites
for a lot of years and they haven't been out
to pulling out and look, we've got the company. This
is the company we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Peter, You're so right. Both of these teams do have
something to prove. When you think of these tournaments, you
think of these two squads, the fact that they both
have zero points is ridiculous. Honestly, it's horrible. Talking to
Jake before the game, I said, you got anything for me?
And he just said, baggage is back.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
What have they back from?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, a lot of things, a lot of losses, a
lot of things.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
What do you have.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I've gotta go. We got Ice. They're gonna get off
on a beautiful start today. Zoe has been the most
improved in this warehouse I've last few years. We'll see
what left go think. I'm gonna go with we got Ice.
We will see you later today. Blitzball Battle five Game one.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Hey, so make sure you guys go check that out.
It's honestly, in this weird world of John Boy Media,
it's one of the most fun, coolest things we do.
If you've never checked out, I ask you to. It's
a pretty incredible product. And I know there's some mental
hurdles to get over, like wait, I'm gonna tune into
these kind of out of shape guys playing a new
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version of wiffle ball in a warehouse. The product is amazing,
it's a lot of fun and let's go baggage. So
with that, let's put my waken Jake. Final closing thoughts
on the Dodgers winning the World Series. When we last
checked in Game five, Yankees they had beat up on
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the Dodgers' triple A pitchers. Okay, okay, okay, what does
it mean? Are you letting bats get hot? Do the
Dodgers care? They've essentially punted games this postseason? Is Aaron
Judge ever gonna show up? Because the Yanks aren't gonna
beat the mighty Mighty Dodgers without the MVP chipping in
Garrett Cole Legacy game. Yeah, and it was Garrett Cole
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came out. It was dominant, no hits through the first
four innings. Aaron Judge homered in the first inning to
run home or Jess Chisholm goes back to back with him.
In that first inning, they extend the lead. Verdugo gets
an RBA, Stanton hits another home run. It is five nothing,
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New York Yankees, like, let's get ready for this, let's
start to believe. That's Yankee fans. We were saying internally, Hey,
if this goes to six, we'll actually start to get
hope and belief. If we're being honest, being up five
to nothing in the third inning of a game that
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makes you have that belief that you're going to Game six.
And if you have belief you're going into game six,
that means you believe you can win a series. You know,
I still remember in the I think it's the fourth inning,
the Yank he's had a runner on, nobody out, and
we were saying, hey, let's get a seven on the board, like,
let's make this, let's make this official, because they should
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win this game. They've got coal, they've got their bullpen
guys ready to go, and Cole looked amazing. Man. Cole
was dominant in a big game where you needed someone
to be dominant. And then the fifth inning happens that
if you're listening to this program, you know about by
this point, Oh, flyball to judge, I mean, just just
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in it, catch it, line drive, flyball, just in it,
catch it. Eyes come off very last second. Instead of
the first out of the inning, no else, groundball to shortstop.
This one has become the most highly contested flub of
the inning. It's deep in the hole. Vulpi gets there
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because there's runners on first and second. He goes to
Jazz Chisholm at third. He chokes the throw, short hops it,
Jazz can't pick it. The runners also getting there at
a similar time, and for Jazz, a guy that hasn't
played a lot of third base only with the Yankees,
so since the trade deadline, Vulpi a young player. The
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Dodgers being aggressive on the basis this one. So in
live time I wasn't as mad because this point now
does stand. If Vulpy just doesn't choke that throw, it's
a fine play. It's a solid play. You got the
lead runner, you got an out. In live time, I
wasn't super mad about this one. Joe's and Jimmy were.
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They were really hot, and what they were saying was
it's a five to zero game, you have to get
an out. And that's a good point, and that point
resonated with me that yes, Anthony Volpi has to make
that play with Will Smith to catch her running. If
there's any question marks about the play, which clearly in
(09:10):
hindsight now there should have been some question marks. You
have to get an out anywhere. I don't think it
was at second base. I do think there would have
been a play that he had at first base, but
that's not the lead runner. You're taking away forces end
of the day. I get it, and that that is
a physical error. If Anthony Volpi makes a slightly better throw,
I think that play goes ignored. Or we'd even say like, hey,
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that was a pretty solid play by Volpi. That's not
how it gets reflected on. So if you heard me
and talk on Talking Baseball, Trev kind of called me
out because I was like, that Volpy play you need
to get an out there. It's a five to nothing game.
I don't think that's the right play he had. What
was my initial thought of, like, no, that is the
right play. Volpi just beefed it. Just gotta be better
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for them. You can't beef it, and if there's a
risk of that, I think there was out to be
had at first base, that you just up five nothing
you need an out. So I don't know, I've been
I'm open to both sides of the argument there. If
Anthony Volpi makes a throw there, if Aaron Judge squeezes
a ball there, None of these are anything the one
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that stings and will continue to sing me for years.
The bases are loaded in what is now a five
out inning for the Los Angeles Dodgers. The bases are
loaded with our captain not catching a ball. Keyk got
(10:37):
a single off of Cole KK does that especially in
the World Series. Tommy Edmond beef ball, Will Smith beefball
from the captain Aaron Judge to Volpi, the prince who
has promised to be the next New Jersey Yankee shortstop.
Bass is loaded. So what does Garrett Cole do in
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this game of games? Strikes out Gavin lux On four pitches,
three fastballs and a change up. He strikes out show
Hao Tani. Bass is loaded for Sho Heo Tani. Four pitches, cutter,
change up, fastball, knuckle curve. Knuckle curve looked great, so
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now it's Mooky Bets. And the thing I keep bringing
up is that Mooki Bets was lined up to win
the MVP Award this year. You know, a lot of
baseball still had to happen, and he gets hurt. But
if you remember, Mooki Bets was playing shortstop, racking up
war hitting at an amazing pace, and then he hurts
his wrists, I believe, and he's out for most of
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the season. You know, we were wondering if they were
going to shake up the shortstop position anyway, So who
knows how this would have played out. But I talked
about a lot and you guys heard my ups and
downs with Mookie Bets playing shortstop in his thirties for
the first time, where I was like, this breaks history,
this breaks baseball. That if Muki did it successfully, which
he was, I was locking him in as like an
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inner circle Hall of Famer, like the now respect we
have for utility players. Utility players get gold gloves, utility
players are getting silver sluggers. Mookie Betts was gonna be
the best shortstop in MVP winning shortstop that in your
Hall of Fame lineup if we're adding a util position
like I think Mookie Bets would have been the best
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ever utility player this game's ever seen. I'm sure there's
players and debates up to be had about that. Let's
have them when we're old and dying, and shit, whoa,
he's still kind of sad and emotional. Here comes Mookie
Bets cutter slider and he gets. He hits a squibber
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to first base, and Garrett Cole takes a couple steps
off the mound, basically gets ready to fist, pump and
give emotion that he rarely gives on a baseball field
because he's kind have done it all. He's won the
Cy young, he's as talented a pitcher is. He's gotten
out of jams, He's pitched in big games. This was
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a World Series elimination game, the last game that'll be
pitched at home in Yankee Stadium. The squiver to Rizzo,
Rizzo fields, He looks to toss to first base to
a not covering Garrett Cole. He freezes up, Mookie Bets
beats it out and what would have been a zero
on the scoreboard in an inning we would have said, WHOA?
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This Yankees defense, can you believe it? They get away
with another one Garrett Cole, legendary Mookie Bets reaches first
on an infield single what's labeled an infield single, and
then Freddy gets a hit, ta Oscar hits a double.
I got as kind of firm as I ever get
with Trevor because he's like, well, you know, Cole, he
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still needs to get guys out there. The guys coming
up and now a six out inning are Freddie Freeman,
who won Playoff MVP and for a couple of years
I have argued is the best pure hitter in baseball.
That's who's up in that inning. And then he's followed
by Tasker Hernandez, who, Hey, Tasker's awesome, and he's one
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of the bigger threats in baseball, and he's gonna get
more of a bag this offseason. And he was a
guy that was allowed to be signed this year because
of Otani's kind of flex contract he's signed.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I won't take any of that. I will take none
of that. Garrett Cole should not have been on that
mound in any way, shape or form at that point,
never mind facing two of the best hitters in baseball
in the World Series. So I don't do that normally.
I kind of do. It's like, yeah, whatever, I can't hear.
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I can't hear. It goes back to the play at
first base, and all the people that say Garrett Cole
should have covered first base on that play, they are right.
They are right. If there's a ball to the pitchers left,
they are supposed to cover first base until they're not
needed to cover first base. That's the rules. You show
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up day one of pitchers and catchers they report early,
and that's some of the stuff they do that there's
no argument against that Kara Cole should have been there.
Anthony Rizzo, he should have fielded that ball and stepped
on first where he fielded it. Maybe not, but that
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I believe. We looked up the exit villa on that
ball and it was forty five forty five exit villo.
My initial thought was seventies. That would have been a
slow hit ball, forty five miles per hour off a
squibber from Mookie Betts, who again was originally lined up
to win the MVP Award this year. That Rizzo should
have attacked that ball and he should have stepped on first.
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That was my initial reaction. That was everyone in the
crowd's initial reaction. Just the way it came off the
bat and the way Rizzo fielded it. Rizzo doesn't. And
then again, however, your brain works when you go through
the check marks of baseball. There is no denying that
Garrett Cole should have made more of an effort to
cover first base on that plane. And when I was
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going through that, I kept spiraling and spinning and going,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
What is this like?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Why wasn't I more mad at Eric Cole? Because I
can't deny that fact? And in my head, it was
just because Anthony Rizzo should have been more aggressive with
that ball and he should have stepped on first That's
what made sense in the play. It's what made sense
in my head. It's what made sense at the stadium.
It's what makes sense when you get a player like
Mookie Betts to squib out to end a World Series
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inning from hell, a World Series inning that ends up
deciding the World Series. If you don't get that it
ended up deciding the World Series? And why did I
Why did I have this kind of not even animosity
at Rizzo, just sadness. This guy that's won a Platinum
Glove has been a great first base defender, not this year.
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Reminder in previous games, Anthony Rizzo got subbed out from
first base for as Waldo Cabrera. That's playing first base.
Is his sixth best position, fifth or sixth, depending how
you want to label it in any.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Either way, not the one he has the most experienced.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
With, just not the not a position he plays, but
he's playing it better than Anthony Rizzo. And a reminder,
Alex Verdugo is playing left field because he can catch
fly balls. So that's just something to think about along
the way. And it's just whatever. Obviously sad broken the
inks going to lose that game. There's other questionable pitching decisions.
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Should they have gone to Weaver earlier? Looks like yes
in hindsight, which is the easiest way. Tommy Cainley gets
zero batters out in the bottom of their order. They
thought that was his lane. It turns out it was not.
I wasn't that mad at the time because you saved
Kinlee for this and it's the bottom of their order.
So would you rather go to Cainlee against Freddy or
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would you rather go to Kenlee against the bottom? Turns
out it was fresh, But it turns out it didn't
really matter. And that that outing. I wake up the
next day still in my pile of sadness, and someone
what did I tweet? I tweeted out, like, I'm I'm
still angry and say like, whatever pathetic stuff I'll get
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in there. I'm looking at I'm watching rich eyes and oh,
I tweeted out, there could have been? Or no, that's
too late. I was gonna say there could have been.
I tweeted out, haven't really been on my phone today.
Oh my god, I double checked the box score to
make sure this wasn't Ai messing with me. And it's
because I knew my soul had something else about that play.
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If you haven't seen it, Garrett Coal gets Mookie Bets
out in the first inning on the exact same squibber,
the exact same squibber.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
About as identical as two ground balls to first can be.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And just a reminder, still, Mookie Bets the guy that
should have won MVP in the first half or until
he got injured in the National League this year. It's
the exact same play, and what does Rizzo do. Rizzo
fields it a couple steps from the bag, comes in
on the ball because it's a squibber that even if
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you beefit, you could still pick it up and step
on the base because it's so lightly hit. It was
the same play, and that's why my soul just knew
this wasn't a coal thing. And for those that always
want it, and for those whose mind operates in that function,
you can never be wrong about playing Cole for that
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that he made part of his own mess. But he didn't, man,
he really didn't. In that moment, the whole stadium thought
Rizzo was gonna scrab it step on first and Garrett
Cole was gonna have a heroic moment. Instead, it goes
the complete opposite way. I know I just said a
lot and this might feel like sad loser cover up talk.
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None of that or none of what I'm about to
say is to knock the Dodgers down. The Dodgers were
the favorites in this world series. The Dodgers were the
better team. That's the only quote I would take back.
At one point, I think in the initial talking Rate
Yanks reaction, Jimmy says the Dodgers were the better team,
and I said, no, they're not. I meant to say more,
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They're not more.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Talented like the talented the pure talent level was close.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The talent is very similar flavor. In fact, I'd like
to say that they are a much better team. And
that is circus that's currently happening around baseball right now,
mostly with Dodger players dunking on the Yankees and Joel
Sherman and everything else coming out that if you have
no idea and you're kind of like, hey, Jake, let's
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get through the Yankees talk, well maybe this is this
is more general baseball talk, but it is targeted at
the Yankees. Basically, the Dodger players have come out and
said the scouting report was to make the Yankees play
baseball because they're so bad at base running and so
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bad at defense that as long as you make the
game of baseball happen, if you don't get give up
five homers and Cole doesn't strike you out fifteen times,
that as long as you make the game of baseball happen,
that these Yankees would be beat. And that's exactly what happened.
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The Dodgers game plan they came out at after and
said was to put the ball in play and make
the Yankees execute. That's not this isn't made up. This
isn't opinions are. This is what Joel Sherman got from
the Dodgers players in their scouting meetings. That's a little league.
That's a little league scouting report. Put the ball in
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play and make them execute. Isn't the whole thing that
these guys are big leaguers, like the only way to
make it to the big leagues if you're a big leaguer.
This is the scouting report about the New York Yankees.
And then Joe Kelly came out with his first line
of quotes saying, you know, they started kicking the ball
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around and playing Yankee defense, labeling a three error inning.
And the Yankees also they had a catcher's interference. Luke
Weaver stepped off disengaged for a third time game of
bass Runner in a World Series game, in a World
Series game, not a regular season game in August, a
World Series game.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Like not to distract us, but I don't think I've
seen the third disengagement like happen since that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Rule came in. I don't think the Yanks had won
this year. I'm sure there had to be two around
the league.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But I'm sure there's been a couple, and there's been
touches like, oh they threw over twice, they can't throw again.
Like rule's obviously been a big part of baseball, but
it's like a non competitive throwover that like is kind
of lost in the shuffle of this game. I have
that Joe Kelly audio if you want me to share
people why not they haven't heard it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You said you played Yankees, So did you guys know?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Was that sort of the thing we were saying every
single game. Just let them throw the ball to the
until they can make a play. I mean, you saw
show I got an extra base going a third on
sloppy glabor play. It's it's it's well known.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
We all knew.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, we're the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
We know every little detail.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
But I mean, past that, it was it was. It
was a fun series. I mean they almost they almost
snagged a couple of wins, you know what I mean.
But I mean, if if it was like if it
was like the NC doublea like basketball, baseball, hockey or football,
I mean, like it's it was just a mismatch from
the get go, like we had to playoff reranking like
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they might be ranked eighth or ninth best playoff team,
you know, what I mean, like you're putting the Posters
ahead of them, You're putting Phillies ahead of them, You're
putting the Mets ahead of them, You're putting the Braves
ahead of them. And the Braves just got unlucky because
they had to play that doubleheader you're putting. I mean,
the Guardians played like crap, but the Guardians played better, better,
be better baseball around Like there's it was just a
complete mismatch. And it's kind of the same feeling from
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twenty eighteen when we had to go play the Dodgers,
Like the Red Sox were just the way better team.
So all we knew that we just had to play
regular Dodger baseball. We didn't play out of our butts.
We didn't have to do anything crazy, and we're gonna
win the World Series.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
So that that was the more recent Joe Kelly quote
from today that the initial one I read was from
right after the game, and yeah, go click around. Joel
Sherman about a month ago was saying if the Yankees
losing the playoff, it'll be essentially because of poor defense
and base running, and almost to a level that they've
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stopped respecting the sport of baseball, and that's kind of
where exactly where it landed that rethinking all of it.
Part of what Joe Kelly is saying is right that, like, hey,
the NL is stacked. I think in hindsight, the Dodgers
Padres was playing for the World Series. I think both
of those teams were built perfectly for October. The Padres
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were up two to one, and then that Dodgers pitch
and kicked in and shut them out set a postseason
record that I think those two teams, I think the
winner of that series was going to win the World Series.
On the Yankee side of things, I think what's disappointing
in part of the thought process there is that, Okay,
let's say the Yankees before this season, an epiphany happened.
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They got they listened to their fan base, said hey,
maybe care about the fundamentals and run the first hard
and you know, care about base running, and hey, if
you do something bad, there might be a punishment to them.
You might get benched labor, you might get benched Volpy,
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you might anyone. You need to respect the game of baseball,
the baseball gods. I think if that actually got taught
into the Yankees organization. God, I think this team would
have won a lot of games this year. Clay Holmes
blew the most saves in baseball because they believed in
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what they wanted to believe instead of the facts that
Clay Holmes. And this is the part that probably stings
us the most. A lot of Clay home saves, blown
saves were the exact same thing. It was infield single,
it was infield air on a tricky play. It was
you know, one walk, one one weird infield play and
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then like a hit and that's what blew the save.
And you know, Boonie would come on our show and
he would talk to the press after and he'd say, well,
Clay's throwing the ball great. And you know, if if
Volpie makes that play, we never get there. If Glabor
makes your team doesn't make those plays, that's the problem.
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So although all of your metrics have told you that
Clay Holmes is throwing the ball great, what you have
put around him has not put him in a position
to be the best closer in baseball, never mind a
top ten closer in baseball, which for a month, the
month of June, they would come out the whole team
in interviews would say Clay is the best closer in baseball,
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not with what you've provided him with, and just know
in general, but if you say something enough, maybe it'll
come true. That Yeah, if this, if that mentality had
gone drilled into Yankees before the season this year, I
think they could have they could have won like one
hundred and five games. They could have won one hundred
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and eight games. I think part of the problem with
baseball is that means nothing currently, Like how many wins
you truly get in the regular season currently doesn't matter technically,
as long as there's enough to get in where the
seeding is, and having that one seed, like I guess
they would have had home field over the Dodgers, which
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who knows what could have happened.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But I think third base doesn't get just given up
three times in Game one.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Would have been interesting and that yeah, these these Yankees.
Because the other thing, when I'm talking about the regular
season wins, the AL East was down like the Orioles
limp to the finish line. The Rais and Socks and
J's were out of it. Uh, there was really no
other dominant team like Houston and essentially not limped into
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the finish line but they didn't run away.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They put themselves in such a hole at the beginning
that like they weren't pushing for anything.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
At the end, Oh, like, what what did they finish?
Wins wise?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
In my head, it's like eighty eight looking into it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Haven't looked at the regular season standings in a while,
eighty eight eighty eight wins. So I don't know. In
a way, it's therapeutic to hear all this come out
and the Dodgers saying this, and you pray that the
Yankees front office is gonna eat it and learn their lesson.
Yankee fans are not, are not believing that they think
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they're gonna come out and say a bunch of bs
and be happy they made it to the World Series
for the first time in fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And there's the thought that, like, even if they don't
come out and say that, that's what they would have
done if not for the Dodgers saying all of this
after right, Oh god, if they don't, there's no yuh
a part of anyone that we talked to that would
believe like they came to that conclusion on their own.
And it's not because they got embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I mean, they They're gonna say they lost the World
Series on one random inning when everything, the Dodgers and
everything everyone else is telling you it wasn't random. That's
the whole thing. That's the whole thing. Uh So we
will see what that turns into for this Yankees off season.
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The Wan Soto free agency has begun, will be quite,
will become quite the storyline throughout, And to be honest,
I'm I'm excited to get into all the other stuff now.
I'm excited to where's Pete Alonzo gonna actually land, where's
Bregman gonna go? There's a pitching crop.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Man, there's a group.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean, if if Cole's option doesn't get picked up,
I do think it will. But Corbyn Burns, Max Freed,
I mean, these are guys that are impact, change your
rotation type players. I feel like there's Blake snell Is
back in a free agency that's gonna be an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
No qualifying offer like you can you can make.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A couple actual rotations with the free agent pool, which
you can't normally say that. So there is some starting
pitching depth hitting. I think per usual hitting just gets
thinner than you'd like. Quick Soto Adamis. His market is
really big at the shortstop position, Pro far Bragman, Hernandez Antander,
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Christian Walker, Jah Hassan, Kim Pete, Tyler O'Neil, and then yeah,
I mean that's you can make like one good lineup
out of the hitters, the pitching, you can.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's better than last year's. But it's not, you know,
not in the territory of like an all time free agency.
But there's good players.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
There's good players that I'm excited to sink my teeth
and I'm excited to see who's gonna get in the
mix or the Tigers gonna gonna try to put some
money forward to try to boost that young team. It
was funny reading one of the articles about them because
they were like, well, you know, the Dodgers at the
end of the year, they were down to one pitcher
and they need a lot of hitting Tigers, excuse me,
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so they can they can kind of go whichever route
they really want in free agency play the value been game,
I don't know, And yeah, it's kind of what are
the behemoths gonna do? What can could the Yankees get
Sodo and ad will? They will so too go somewhere else.
How are the Phillies gonna be in the dance because
you know they love to dance, all the big boys,
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and then seeing what other teams are going to step
up and bolster, because I do think the other walk
away is the Dodgers did it and they're gonna be
here for a while. In the Brave, they're really good
and they add a down year, but they're probably gonna
bounce back. The Mets are looking to get in the mix.
They made the CS Padres is gonna be an interesting
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offseason for them. How much are they gonna.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Do the polka?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Will any Central teams evoke anything? And like, which step
does Houston take? Alex Bregman's a free agent after an
eighty eight win team the Mariners, did they ever have
a solution? Or is their team's goal to literally win
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eighty three games a year? They came out and said
that that's insane, that's insane. Well, the Boston Red Sox
get really back into a free agency again. Toronto, what's
happening up there? You always hear they have money? Are
they full rebuilding? The Rays will do something weird. I'm
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excited to get into all of it. We'll be doing
it here. We'll be doing it on Talking Baseball. You know,
if you thought that was a little bit of talking
Yanks there, we're obviously doing it there. But it was
down to the Yankees and the Dodgers, and the Yankees
got embarrassed, embarrassed at the party, and the Dodgers are
openly talking about it, not like tipping pitches, not like
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we thought we could be better at them than this,
just playing the game of baseball. The Yankees couldn't do it,
yet they had enough talent to take them to the
World Series and almost win three out of five games.
That's how much talent they had. Infuriating a little sad.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
One last infuriating thing about about that play there is
I just haven't been able to shake the last couple
of days. Just mookies not fast anymore. That's a pretty
underrated part of this And I haven't been able to
shake that for like two days.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
He can, uh, you know, I think if movie needs
to turn one on and get down the line, I
think on that play we were getting the best You're
twenty four movie has to offer. And then the breakdown
had a good side by side of the first inning
versus last one. I'm thinking he has a chance us
he's a step ahead. But not even talking about Stanton's
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base running. Let's see what happens for the upcoming Yankees
and the rest of the league, because part of getting
ridish shifts was like defense was supposed to be more
in vogue, and it was for other teams. It was
for other teams excited to get into the baseball offseason. Truly,
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let's do some foosball. Because we had a nice NFL Sunday.
I thought we were getting the Germany game this weekend.
You know that gets me excited. It's next weekend, big one.
I think it's our g men, right.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Giants, Panthers sending our best Jesus Man.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Sorry Munich. Let's see this goes back to Thursday, and
I'm if some of you were confused by what I
was saying. If you remember, the New York Jets were
favorites against the Texans on Thursday Night Football, the two
and six Jets at the time against the six and
two Texans, and it was just the Vegas smell test
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was off. Why were these Jets favored? It was a
do or die game for them and for the Texans,
it was not, and they lost two of their wide receivers,
so there was a little football side to it too.
But I mean, this is just an example of Vegas
knows something. Just question whatever you were thinking. Because the
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Jets they come out and they win this game twenty
one to thirteen. Rogers looks better. As the game goes on,
we get a Garrett Wilson signature catch that was disgusting,
and it kind of hits my new rule of sports.
I don't know if that should have been a catch,
Like his shin gets down kind of inbounds, and this
it's a weird like shin is part of the knee
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rule in football, and his shin does hit down before
the knee. I wish there was a rule in sports
that was something like, hey, this is so close and
so cool, count it. And maybe that's what did happen.
I think his shin does get in bounds, but to
overturn it from not catch to catch on replay.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's it's a little bit of this kind of all
that feels not in the spirit of the rule.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's it was tight, it was a sick catch. It counts.
The Jets win that game. They stay alive. And it
is funny how quickly their narrative people were looking at
their schedule and they were like, hey, there's no guaranteed wins,
like where's where's the one in one in eight team
or anything like that. I currently think that the there's
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two teams upcoming for them that have winning records, the
Cardinals next week, Mike Cardinals. I'm actually excited to talk
about them, and then a game against the Bills. So
like Colt Seahawks Dolphins, Jags Rams Dolphins to end it,
people have a little Jets hope. That's a very dangerous game,
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especially watching what I watched a Yankee Stadium last week.
But good for them for keeping the hope alive. This
brings us to the Sunday Slate. I'll check this one
off quickly, and I wish I had more of a
more resounding tone about it. My Broncos got routed by
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the Ravens. If you've been listening, you know the Ravens
are currently my Super Bowl favorites, and it's because some
of these stats. Lamar Jackson in this game was sixteen
of nineteen for three touchdowns, Derrick Henry one hundred and
six yards, two touchdowns, Zay Flowers five for one to
twenty seven two touchdowns. They won forty one to ten.
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It was actually somewhat close, and the Broncos showed a
little bit of fight in the first half. But these
Ravens are clearly in a different class of football right now.
Bo Nicks receiving touchdown. The only score of the Broncos
got touchdown in this game. So the Broncos wins were
against lesser competition. This all added up on it and
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they got beat up pretty good. The Atlanta Falcons a
nice twenty seven to twenty one win over the Cowboys.
Kurky kind of the modern passing line this year. The
yards aren't insane two twenty two, but nineteen of twenty
four for three touchdowns. Beijeon has a nice game. The
Cousin's Darnell Mooney connection, I've been pretty pleased with myself.
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Got that going in a couple fantasy leagues and those two,
you know, having a connection used to kind of mean something.
They like have it. It's kind of cool to watch.
They beat the Cowboys. The Cowboys are in a tough spot.
Dak leaves this game, CD leaves this game. Zeke Elliott
wasn't invited to this game because he's been missing team meetings.
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It's a bad sign. The Cowboys are just dearth of talent.
Like there's the guys you know, you know Ced Lamb,
you know Dak, you know Zeke, Michael Parsons has been out.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Dak is now out.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Dak is now out. That defense is kind of a
built to play from ahead defense to rush you and
make turnovers happen and make pressure happen. And they haven't
been ahead that They've been getting beat up on the
ground and in every which way. To be honest, the
three and five Cowboys, Man, it's not looking good. I
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saw a lot going on, people talking about Dak and
Kirk Cousins kind of doing a who would you rather have?
And it's been funny to watch Kirk like slowly climb
the QB chart in recent years, just because he went
from like, Okay, you're gonna get an average product, well
he might get killed on primetime games, to like, yay,
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you're kind of getting above average product, but he doesn't
really take chances to Now Kirk kind of balls out.
I've told people he's one of my favorite qbs to
watch because he like he tries to make plays out there.
I will say this, Kirk and Dak, I think if
you gave Dak the keys to this Atlanta offense, I
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think you would get a very similar, if not slightly
better result. But if you did a QB trade for
these two, I don't think anything changes for either team.
So I don't know. I heard Kirk and Kirk's kind
of become my guy, which is shocking. I heard Kirk
getting more love than Dak, and I think right now
these two are very much part of their circumstance that
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if you gave Dak Bijon. Hell, if you gave Dak
Alger with Mooney, with Drake London with Pitts, I think
you would get close, if not slightly better than Kirk.
Stats this year, they are six and three. The Falcons
look like they're running away with that division. Speaking of
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the Bills, Tyler Bass sixty one yard game winner, the
field goal kicking, It's insane, it's weird, man, how good
these guys are now? The Bills are four to oh
at home. The Dolphins made this a game. Josh Allen,
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I guess they get the final drive done at the end.
Although sixty one yard field goal not exactly what you're
looking for. Tua back out there for the Dolphins. Man
some of these efficiencies. Dolphin was a Dolphin Tua. It's
kind of a never mind. He was twenty five for
twenty eight passing. That's insane. That would have been like
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the best game to ever happen in two thousand and seven.
A chan for them. It's really fun to watch him
run the ball. Has a receiving touchdown two in this game.
But yeah, the Dolphins dropped to two and six with Tua.
They're obviously a different team, but they've got a big
uphill climb and the Bills are real. The Bills are real.
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Keon Coleman is I mean a rookie receiver. He has
a horrible drop that leads to an interception. He's also
got some dog in them. They're playing without Amari Cooper,
who they traded for. It's like they have just enough
weapons and if there's something that Khalil Shakira has been
really good, if Cooper can come in and be a
version of a Marii Cooper, They've got a lot of
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a lot of tools in their tool chest. My guy
Ray Davis listed five eight two twenty I'll let you
cook those numbers however you want. The Bills are here
and they are one of the I think there's like
four or so T teams that people are really considering
Super Bowl contenders right now, and I think they're one
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of those teams. Raiders, Bengals, Bengals. I'm not ready to
come back yet, although they've won three out of four.
They're at Baltimore next week, so that'll be the big
test for them. They're four and five. They end up
hanging forty one points on the Raiders. They still have
a lot of their pieces in place, and Chase Brown
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has kind of taken over that starting running back job
and looks good. So maybe that was the missing dynamic
from their offense. Hey, if they can do some against
the Ravens, I'll be back in on my Bengals. I'm
not there yet. I'm not there yet. Chargers Brown's will
the Jamis story continue? It did not. Chargers win twenty
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seven to ten, felt like even more than that, it
was twenty to twenty three. For a lot of this game,
Herbert with a Herbert stat line JK. Dobbins fourteen for
eighty five two touchdowns. I made a real ski trade.
In one of my fantasy leagues this week, I traded
Zay Flowers away ouch for JK. Dobbins. I had some
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wide receiver depth, I didn't have running back depth. I
thought they were on similar planes. I've always liked Dobbins.
He just always gets hurt, and I feel like running
backs are just more fucked up than ever.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Like I see feels like a weird running base.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
It just feels with NFL passing, like hey, you could
have a great day from like four Packers wide receivers
on any given day, each team has like one running
back that you can have odd day out of.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
So I made the move and it hurt at first
because Flowers scored first. I was like, oh boy, But
then Dobbins got me too. They both scored two touchdowns.
So fun trade. How about that? Uh Chargers five and
three go Chargers goal and Quinn Johnson. He's become the
first pick that I don't know people were selling on.
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I guess he's become their big play guy. And he
made a couple in this one. Four catches for one
to eighteen in a Tuddy Browns two and seven. Yeah,
Patriots Titans, No Titans winning overtime. Great game. Drake May
at the buzzer kind of a cool play. I'll give
him that.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
That play was cool cool.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Got no problems with Drake May him, him and Bo
Nicks are checking rookie quarterback boxes just everything else around
them more or less the Commander, They're the Commanders are
seven and two. Hello, they beat the New York Football Giants.
Giants showed some fight late in this one as they
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dropped to two and seven oh and five at home.
Justin Pennick not happy about it. Yeah, I don't know this.
This didn't even feel like the Commander's best brand of football.
They were missing Brian Robinson Junior, their usual other lead tailback,
with Austin Eckler man that there was a report before
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the game that players are asking to be traded to Washington,
which that sentence has never been said before. So they
are as hot in the streets as you can get,
while the New York Giants are as not. Another tough
one meatow Lands. The Panthers beat the Saints. I mean,
this is kind of a no except Derek Carr was
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just getting dragged by former teammates current teammates. They fire
their coach Dennis Allen. They should have won this game
and they didn't. The Panthers, I will say something that's
kind of cool, and I don't know. I need Kamara
to keep running the ball, so either trade them or
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figure it out. That's fantasy loser stuff. I'm sorry that
came out. Trek Carr just getting killed, crucified. If you
want to see something that you should like just as
a human being. Bryce Young smiling on a football field
after the game. He was smiling. He threw a touchdown
pass and he was smiling. Man. I know, we just
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we kind of do the NFL quarterback thing and it's like, well,
Carolina sucks and he's too small and he don't look good,
and we're just like whatever. This guy was like the man,
this guy was the top pick. This guy went to Alabama,
was a stut came to the NFL and was like,
you're the future. You're one of the futures of the league.
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And he's got bench for Dalton. To see him have
a smile on his face and playing some decent football,
was happy for him and maybe that's just something he
can build on. Where the Saints it seems like they're
gonna unbuild that whole thing. Not a phreezing Eagles beat
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the Jaguars should have been a dominant victory, Siriani. Guy's
out of his mind. Some of the decisions he's making
on a team where you have an automatic one and
a half yard game whenever you want it are just absurd.
Some of the fourth down plays and some of the
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things they were doing just completely out of hand. When
you have Saquon Barkley just creating like an all time
highlight if you haven't seen it, the juke out spin
move into the reverse hurdle, which if that doesn't make
sense to you, it shouldn't because those are words that
nobody said before watching it in livetime. It's pretty cool,
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just because I was like, I have never seen that,
and I think that was sick. Then when you got
the first replay, you were like, and it's confirmed that
was insanity. They have that guy, and with the catches,
DeVante Smith like him, and Garrett Mitchell like those catches.
I don't think those ever got made before. I think
those were just called incomplete and we moved on. Uh,
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those guys are sick puppies. AJ Brown is back for them.
The Eagles are six and two should probably be seven
and one. I think they need to start getting lumped
into the actual Super Bowl teams again, which good for
them for where they were. I think Eagles fans similar
to what I just watched with the Yankees. Their fear
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is themselves. Their fear is Sirianni. Their fear is the
dumb stuff that they do. And I don't know, I
just don't think Eagles fans are gonna really believe unless
they get really hot, which we should have been talking
about them winning this game in a blowout. They're up
sixteen to nothing at the half. The Jacks show some
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fight two and seven j Vill Cardinals beat the Bears
twenty nine to nine. I had this as my against
the spread pick. I bet actual money on this one
because I think the Cardinals are good and the Bears
are not. The Bears defense and special teams has saved
Caleb Williams in two to three games, and again I've admitted,
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like I I'm not a Caleb hater, but I just
need to see it, just like any rookie quarterback like
there was. If he had came out his first year
out of USC, I would have said, WHOA, this guy's
the next Mahomes passed the torch. He went to college
another year he did not play as well. That's scouts
and everyone I know. The team wasn't as good, but
he took a step down. Anyways, end up like rolling
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on the Bears twenty nine to nine. These Cardinals have
some fight. They get a blowout win after back to
back field goal kick wins, they've won three in a row.
They host the Jets and then they play the Seahawks.
Kyler looks great. Kyler looks fantastic as long as they
can keep him healthy, which that's the fear, But it
feels like he's been doing things to stay healthier and
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not get the big hit and not running around like
a crazy man as much. James Connor's just a workhorse.
Like we live in this get over running back societies,
James Connor. We didn't need to get over Derrick Henry.
I understand, like some guys run out of tread on
the tire, but some guys don't. Connor's killing it. Lions
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beat the Packers. This was another one where the Packers
were like, this should be a big game for them.
They can beat the Lions. They would go to seven
and two they've got them in Lambeau weather monster hurt
them here it's pouring rain, which I do feel like
that favors the Lions, who like to be nasty and
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pound the ball on the ground and all that jazz.
Where when the Packers are at their best, it's best.
It's Jordan Love spreading the ball out to all those
young talented receivers. I don't know how much of an
effect that had in this. The Lions are really good.
They're now seven and one, real super Bowl team. And
I also think there's some stat out there that the
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teams the Lions play the next week, those teams are
like horrible against the spread, and I think they lose
a lot because the Lions are so physical that they
just beat you down. Pretty good thing to have as
a football team. Four and oh on the road. What's
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that beat.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Cool stat?
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah right, No, it's it's very cool. It's badass. It's
Dan Campbell. It's these Lions rams beat the Seahawks in overtime.
Gonna be honest, was watching was red zoning and watching
some of this game. JSN has his breakout Seahawks game.
So they're hopeful for the future when they get DK
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Metcalf was out of this game that maybe that could
make their passing attack to the next level. They've been
waiting for this one with Kenneth Walker and Gino. Dude,
Matthew Stafford. Some of the throws he makes are disgusting.
DeMarcus Robinson had about three catches that if you saw
them once in a game, you'd be like, that's sick.
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Safford to him alone, he had three of those. It's
really cool. I know he's Trev's friend and shit whatever
that he's now appreciated as like a great quarterback because
he is. Yes, he was in Detroit during the bad
times for too long. He might have to. He got
out of there and it worked out. Your final game
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was Vikings Colts. Joe Flacco gets the start and a
game where the Vikings had a couple sloppy ones. Darnold
with an intercept red zone and interception in the red zone.
Excuse me, He ends up with three touchdown passings.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (54:41):
How do you like that? Justin Jefferson is a stud.
The Vikings are six and two. They're one of the
only like fringe, are they a Super Bowl teams right now?
I think them Packers maybe you could say Falcons like
those are kind of a tier below the tier. Hey,
if Sam Darnold can be a b I think they
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are super Bowl type team. That's the question. We'll see
as we're going in the Colts man, I don't know,
Flacco fighting out there while you got Ar five on
the bench. It's gonna be interesting to see how they
juggle that back to back losses for them. And they
are hosting the Bills next week, so hey, tune into
the Chiefs tonight trying to keep the wind streak going
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against the Yucks Tampa Bay Buccaneers Kansas City minus nine.
Will I touch it? Maybe? I don't know. See if
I'm bored tonight. Hey, a lot of baseball offseason, a
lot of other sports incoming. Thank you guys, you are
the best telling about Uncle Dan.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Waken Jacobs the production of Dan Patrick Productions, John Boy
Media and Workhouse Media.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Let's go back Edge
Hello, and welcome to Waken Jake myself, Jake's story Ellie,
a known Yankee fan and a known loser, circling up
on the wide world of sports, but mostly need to
put a final bow tie on the Dodgers winning the
World Series. You know, it's kind of funny coming into today.
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It was a quiet weekend New York Marathon, daylight savings time,
kind of getting away from baseball, try to get away
from sports. But I like sports did finish two shows.
We'll talk about that later. But yeah, we'll put a
final bow tie on Yankees Dodgers because I haven't really
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done that yet. I mean, it's kind of funny. We
talk about the series so much between Wake and Jake
Talking Baseball, Talking Yanks, and then we recorded our final
Talking Yanks episode live from the stadium and put that out.
So that's just sadness and anger just coming through the
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mics with everything we got while trying to be thankful
and appreciative for everything.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, as raw and fresh as you can get.
The formula, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Part of the formula that made it our most watched
Talking Yanks episode by a mile. And then so go home.
Sad might have had a sad beer in the street
with Jose McFly after the game. Sure, go home, you know,
probably sleep from four thirty am till nine thirty am.
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Wake up, do talking baseball again. Give the Dodgers their
flowers while also still being sad and angry about a
baseball team, which you know, I don't know whether it's
cool or not anymore. It's it's kind of funky that
it's tied into company and business now that I think
the new phrase that we've learned as a company is
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that if the Yankees win, one fan base likes that.
If the Yankees lose, a lot of fan bases like that,
that our streaming views and our final episode and everything
like that. If the Yankees lose, there's actually more numbers
for us. That's a sick game. But I'm still a
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fan and I want the Yankees to win. So we
will go through some of the final notes, because the
last time I talked to you guys here, it was
three to one, and the Yankees had just a little
bit of momentum, just a little bit of juice, and
you wondered if it we wondered if it meant anything.
It did for four innings and then it didn't. And man,
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the Dodgers. A couple of these Dodger players are bearing
the Yankees, Joe, Kelly, Keike, Hernandez, couple of Red Sox Dodgers.
How do you like that? The scouting report came out
and it was every Yankee fans fear. So let's do that.
Not gonna do too much other baseball stuff, to be honest,
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my brain is kind of foggy and still not wired
there yet. I haven't even gotten in the Yankees offseason plans.
I know a little bit of the free agent crop,
obviously talking about it throughout the year, but I haven't
like locked into that mode yet. A little bit of sadness.
Did watch NFL football this weekend, So we'll wrap up
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with that, and I guess somewhere in between, I'll tell
you guys about the shows. And I'm wearing my blitz
Ball Battle five jersey team baggage that starts tonight November.
What's today, November fourth? If you're listening on our Warehouse
Games channel, and we've actually got a little preview for
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you right now, blitz Ball Battle five Game one.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It is a true classic team baggage.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We got ice.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
We haven't seen this since the first ever game of
Blitzball Battle one. This game is gonna be one for
the ages. I've said it. These two teams have got
something to prove. We got Ice. They've been the favorites
for a lot of years and they haven't been out
to pulling out and look, we've got the company. This
is the company we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Peter, You're so right. Both of these teams do have
something to prove. When you think of these tournaments, you
think of these two squads, the fact that they both
have zero points is ridiculous. Honestly, it's horrible. Talking to
Jake before the game, I said, you got anything for me?
And he just said, baggage is back.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
What have they back from?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, a lot of things, a lot of losses, a
lot of things.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
What do you have.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I've gotta go. We got Ice. They're gonna get off
on a beautiful start today. Zoe has been the most
improved in this warehouse I've last few years. We'll see
what left go think. I'm gonna go with we got Ice.
We will see you later today. Blitzball Battle five Game one.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Hey, so make sure you guys go check that out.
It's honestly, in this weird world of John Boy Media,
it's one of the most fun, coolest things we do.
If you've never checked out, I ask you to. It's
a pretty incredible product. And I know there's some mental
hurdles to get over, like wait, I'm gonna tune into
these kind of out of shape guys playing a new
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version of wiffle ball in a warehouse. The product is amazing,
it's a lot of fun and let's go baggage. So
with that, let's put my waken Jake. Final closing thoughts
on the Dodgers winning the World Series. When we last
checked in Game five, Yankees they had beat up on
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the Dodgers' triple A pitchers. Okay, okay, okay, what does
it mean? Are you letting bats get hot? Do the
Dodgers care? They've essentially punted games this postseason? Is Aaron
Judge ever gonna show up? Because the Yanks aren't gonna
beat the mighty Mighty Dodgers without the MVP chipping in
Garrett Cole Legacy game. Yeah, and it was Garrett Cole
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came out. It was dominant, no hits through the first
four innings. Aaron Judge homered in the first inning to
run home or Jess Chisholm goes back to back with him.
In that first inning, they extend the lead. Verdugo gets
an RBA, Stanton hits another home run. It is five nothing,
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New York Yankees, like, let's get ready for this, let's
start to believe. That's Yankee fans. We were saying internally, Hey,
if this goes to six, we'll actually start to get
hope and belief. If we're being honest, being up five
to nothing in the third inning of a game that
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makes you have that belief that you're going to Game six.
And if you have belief you're going into game six,
that means you believe you can win a series. You know,
I still remember in the I think it's the fourth inning,
the Yank he's had a runner on, nobody out, and
we were saying, hey, let's get a seven on the board, like,
let's make this, let's make this official, because they should
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win this game. They've got coal, they've got their bullpen
guys ready to go, and Cole looked amazing. Man. Cole
was dominant in a big game where you needed someone
to be dominant. And then the fifth inning happens that
if you're listening to this program, you know about by
this point, Oh, flyball to judge, I mean, just just
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in it, catch it, line drive, flyball, just in it,
catch it. Eyes come off very last second. Instead of
the first out of the inning, no else, groundball to shortstop.
This one has become the most highly contested flub of
the inning. It's deep in the hole. Vulpi gets there
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because there's runners on first and second. He goes to
Jazz Chisholm at third. He chokes the throw, short hops it,
Jazz can't pick it. The runners also getting there at
a similar time, and for Jazz, a guy that hasn't
played a lot of third base only with the Yankees,
so since the trade deadline, Vulpi a young player. The
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Dodgers being aggressive on the basis this one. So in
live time I wasn't as mad because this point now
does stand. If Vulpy just doesn't choke that throw, it's
a fine play. It's a solid play. You got the
lead runner, you got an out. In live time, I
wasn't super mad about this one. Joe's and Jimmy were.
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They were really hot, and what they were saying was
it's a five to zero game, you have to get
an out. And that's a good point, and that point
resonated with me that yes, Anthony Volpi has to make
that play with Will Smith to catch her running. If
there's any question marks about the play, which clearly in
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hindsight now there should have been some question marks. You
have to get an out anywhere. I don't think it
was at second base. I do think there would have
been a play that he had at first base, but
that's not the lead runner. You're taking away forces end
of the day. I get it, and that that is
a physical error. If Anthony Volpi makes a slightly better throw,
I think that play goes ignored. Or we'd even say like, hey,
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that was a pretty solid play by Volpi. That's not
how it gets reflected on. So if you heard me
and talk on Talking Baseball, Trev kind of called me
out because I was like, that Volpy play you need
to get an out there. It's a five to nothing game.
I don't think that's the right play he had. What
was my initial thought of, like, no, that is the
right play. Volpi just beefed it. Just gotta be better
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for them. You can't beef it, and if there's a
risk of that, I think there was out to be
had at first base, that you just up five nothing
you need an out. So I don't know, I've been
I'm open to both sides of the argument there. If
Anthony Volpi makes a throw there, if Aaron Judge squeezes
a ball there, None of these are anything the one
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that stings and will continue to sing me for years.
The bases are loaded in what is now a five
out inning for the Los Angeles Dodgers. The bases are
loaded with our captain not catching a ball. Keyk got
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a single off of Cole KK does that especially in
the World Series. Tommy Edmond beef ball, Will Smith beefball
from the captain Aaron Judge to Volpi, the prince who
has promised to be the next New Jersey Yankee shortstop.
Bass is loaded. So what does Garrett Cole do in
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this game of games? Strikes out Gavin lux On four pitches,
three fastballs and a change up. He strikes out show
Hao Tani. Bass is loaded for Sho Heo Tani. Four pitches, cutter,
change up, fastball, knuckle curve. Knuckle curve looked great, so
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now it's Mooky Bets. And the thing I keep bringing
up is that Mooki Bets was lined up to win
the MVP Award this year. You know, a lot of
baseball still had to happen, and he gets hurt. But
if you remember, Mooki Bets was playing shortstop, racking up
war hitting at an amazing pace, and then he hurts
his wrists, I believe, and he's out for most of
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the season. You know, we were wondering if they were
going to shake up the shortstop position anyway, So who
knows how this would have played out. But I talked
about a lot and you guys heard my ups and
downs with Mookie Bets playing shortstop in his thirties for
the first time, where I was like, this breaks history,
this breaks baseball. That if Muki did it successfully, which
he was, I was locking him in as like an
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inner circle Hall of Famer, like the now respect we
have for utility players. Utility players get gold gloves, utility
players are getting silver sluggers. Mookie Betts was gonna be
the best shortstop in MVP winning shortstop that in your
Hall of Fame lineup if we're adding a util position
like I think Mookie Bets would have been the best
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ever utility player this game's ever seen. I'm sure there's
players and debates up to be had about that. Let's
have them when we're old and dying, and shit, whoa,
he's still kind of sad and emotional. Here comes Mookie
Bets cutter slider and he gets. He hits a squibber
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to first base, and Garrett Cole takes a couple steps
off the mound, basically gets ready to fist, pump and
give emotion that he rarely gives on a baseball field
because he's kind have done it all. He's won the
Cy young, he's as talented a pitcher is. He's gotten
out of jams, He's pitched in big games. This was
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a World Series elimination game, the last game that'll be
pitched at home in Yankee Stadium. The squiver to Rizzo,
Rizzo fields, He looks to toss to first base to
a not covering Garrett Cole. He freezes up, Mookie Bets
beats it out and what would have been a zero
on the scoreboard in an inning we would have said, WHOA?
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This Yankees defense, can you believe it? They get away
with another one Garrett Cole, legendary Mookie Bets reaches first
on an infield single what's labeled an infield single, and
then Freddy gets a hit, ta Oscar hits a double.
I got as kind of firm as I ever get
with Trevor because he's like, well, you know, Cole, he
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still needs to get guys out there. The guys coming
up and now a six out inning are Freddie Freeman,
who won Playoff MVP and for a couple of years
I have argued is the best pure hitter in baseball.
That's who's up in that inning. And then he's followed
by Tasker Hernandez, who, Hey, Tasker's awesome, and he's one
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of the bigger threats in baseball, and he's gonna get
more of a bag this offseason. And he was a
guy that was allowed to be signed this year because
of Otani's kind of flex contract he's signed.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
That.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I won't take any of that. I will take none
of that. Garrett Cole should not have been on that
mound in any way, shape or form at that point,
never mind facing two of the best hitters in baseball
in the World Series. So I don't do that normally.
I kind of do. It's like, yeah, whatever, I can't hear.
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I can't hear. It goes back to the play at
first base, and all the people that say Garrett Cole
should have covered first base on that play, they are right.
They are right. If there's a ball to the pitchers left,
they are supposed to cover first base until they're not
needed to cover first base. That's the rules. You show
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up day one of pitchers and catchers they report early,
and that's some of the stuff they do that there's
no argument against that Kara Cole should have been there.
Anthony Rizzo, he should have fielded that ball and stepped
on first where he fielded it. Maybe not, but that
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I believe. We looked up the exit villa on that
ball and it was forty five forty five exit villo.
My initial thought was seventies. That would have been a
slow hit ball, forty five miles per hour off a
squibber from Mookie Betts, who again was originally lined up
to win the MVP Award this year. That Rizzo should
have attacked that ball and he should have stepped on first.
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That was my initial reaction. That was everyone in the
crowd's initial reaction. Just the way it came off the
bat and the way Rizzo fielded it. Rizzo doesn't. And
then again, however, your brain works when you go through
the check marks of baseball. There is no denying that
Garrett Cole should have made more of an effort to
cover first base on that plane. And when I was
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going through that, I kept spiraling and spinning and going,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
What is this like?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Why wasn't I more mad at Eric Cole? Because I
can't deny that fact? And in my head, it was
just because Anthony Rizzo should have been more aggressive with
that ball and he should have stepped on first That's
what made sense in the play. It's what made sense
in my head. It's what made sense at the stadium.
It's what makes sense when you get a player like
Mookie Betts to squib out to end a World Series
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inning from hell, a World Series inning that ends up
deciding the World Series. If you don't get that it
ended up deciding the World Series? And why did I
Why did I have this kind of not even animosity
at Rizzo, just sadness. This guy that's won a Platinum
Glove has been a great first base defender, not this year.
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Reminder in previous games, Anthony Rizzo got subbed out from
first base for as Waldo Cabrera. That's playing first base.
Is his sixth best position, fifth or sixth, depending how
you want to label it in any.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Either way, not the one he has the most experienced.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
With, just not the not a position he plays, but
he's playing it better than Anthony Rizzo. And a reminder,
Alex Verdugo is playing left field because he can catch
fly balls. So that's just something to think about along
the way. And it's just whatever. Obviously sad broken the
inks going to lose that game. There's other questionable pitching decisions.
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Should they have gone to Weaver earlier? Looks like yes
in hindsight, which is the easiest way. Tommy Cainley gets
zero batters out in the bottom of their order. They
thought that was his lane. It turns out it was not.
I wasn't that mad at the time because you saved
Kinlee for this and it's the bottom of their order.
So would you rather go to Cainlee against Freddy or
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would you rather go to Kenlee against the bottom? Turns
out it was fresh, But it turns out it didn't
really matter. And that that outing. I wake up the
next day still in my pile of sadness, and someone
what did I tweet? I tweeted out, like, I'm I'm
still angry and say like, whatever pathetic stuff I'll get
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in there. I'm looking at I'm watching rich eyes and oh,
I tweeted out, there could have been? Or no, that's
too late. I was gonna say there could have been.
I tweeted out, haven't really been on my phone today.
Oh my god, I double checked the box score to
make sure this wasn't Ai messing with me. And it's
because I knew my soul had something else about that play.
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If you haven't seen it, Garrett Coal gets Mookie Bets
out in the first inning on the exact same squibber,
the exact same squibber.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
About as identical as two ground balls to first can be.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And just a reminder, still, Mookie Bets the guy that
should have won MVP in the first half or until
he got injured in the National League this year. It's
the exact same play, and what does Rizzo do. Rizzo
fields it a couple steps from the bag, comes in
on the ball because it's a squibber that even if
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you beefit, you could still pick it up and step
on the base because it's so lightly hit. It was
the same play, and that's why my soul just knew
this wasn't a coal thing. And for those that always
want it, and for those whose mind operates in that function,
you can never be wrong about playing Cole for that
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that he made part of his own mess. But he didn't, man,
he really didn't. In that moment, the whole stadium thought
Rizzo was gonna scrab it step on first and Garrett
Cole was gonna have a heroic moment. Instead, it goes
the complete opposite way. I know I just said a
lot and this might feel like sad loser cover up talk.
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None of that or none of what I'm about to
say is to knock the Dodgers down. The Dodgers were
the favorites in this world series. The Dodgers were the
better team. That's the only quote I would take back.
At one point, I think in the initial talking Rate
Yanks reaction, Jimmy says the Dodgers were the better team,
and I said, no, they're not. I meant to say more,
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They're not more.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Talented like the talented the pure talent level was close.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The talent is very similar flavor. In fact, I'd like
to say that they are a much better team. And
that is circus that's currently happening around baseball right now,
mostly with Dodger players dunking on the Yankees and Joel
Sherman and everything else coming out that if you have
no idea and you're kind of like, hey, Jake, let's
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get through the Yankees talk, well maybe this is this
is more general baseball talk, but it is targeted at
the Yankees. Basically, the Dodger players have come out and
said the scouting report was to make the Yankees play
baseball because they're so bad at base running and so
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bad at defense that as long as you make the
game of baseball happen, if you don't get give up
five homers and Cole doesn't strike you out fifteen times,
that as long as you make the game of baseball happen,
that these Yankees would be beat. And that's exactly what happened.
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The Dodgers game plan they came out at after and
said was to put the ball in play and make
the Yankees execute. That's not this isn't made up. This
isn't opinions are. This is what Joel Sherman got from
the Dodgers players in their scouting meetings. That's a little league.
That's a little league scouting report. Put the ball in
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play and make them execute. Isn't the whole thing that
these guys are big leaguers, like the only way to
make it to the big leagues if you're a big leaguer.
This is the scouting report about the New York Yankees.
And then Joe Kelly came out with his first line
of quotes saying, you know, they started kicking the ball
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around and playing Yankee defense, labeling a three error inning.
And the Yankees also they had a catcher's interference. Luke
Weaver stepped off disengaged for a third time game of
bass Runner in a World Series game, in a World
Series game, not a regular season game in August, a
World Series game.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Like not to distract us, but I don't think I've
seen the third disengagement like happen since that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Rule came in. I don't think the Yanks had won
this year. I'm sure there had to be two around
the league.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But I'm sure there's been a couple, and there's been
touches like, oh they threw over twice, they can't throw again.
Like rule's obviously been a big part of baseball, but
it's like a non competitive throwover that like is kind
of lost in the shuffle of this game. I have
that Joe Kelly audio if you want me to share
people why not they haven't heard it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You said you played Yankees, So did you guys know?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Was that sort of the thing we were saying every
single game. Just let them throw the ball to the
until they can make a play. I mean, you saw
show I got an extra base going a third on
sloppy glabor play. It's it's it's well known.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
We all knew.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, we're the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
We know every little detail.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
But I mean, past that, it was it was. It
was a fun series. I mean they almost they almost
snagged a couple of wins, you know what I mean.
But I mean, if if it was like if it
was like the NC doublea like basketball, baseball, hockey or football,
I mean, like it's it was just a mismatch from
the get go, like we had to playoff reranking like
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they might be ranked eighth or ninth best playoff team,
you know, what I mean, like you're putting the Posters
ahead of them, You're putting Phillies ahead of them, You're
putting the Mets ahead of them, You're putting the Braves
ahead of them. And the Braves just got unlucky because
they had to play that doubleheader you're putting. I mean,
the Guardians played like crap, but the Guardians played better, better,
be better baseball around Like there's it was just a
complete mismatch. And it's kind of the same feeling from
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twenty eighteen when we had to go play the Dodgers,
Like the Red Sox were just the way better team.
So all we knew that we just had to play
regular Dodger baseball. We didn't play out of our butts.
We didn't have to do anything crazy, and we're gonna
win the World Series.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
So that that was the more recent Joe Kelly quote
from today that the initial one I read was from
right after the game, and yeah, go click around. Joel
Sherman about a month ago was saying if the Yankees
losing the playoff, it'll be essentially because of poor defense
and base running, and almost to a level that they've
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stopped respecting the sport of baseball, and that's kind of
where exactly where it landed that rethinking all of it.
Part of what Joe Kelly is saying is right that, like, hey,
the NL is stacked. I think in hindsight, the Dodgers
Padres was playing for the World Series. I think both
of those teams were built perfectly for October. The Padres
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were up two to one, and then that Dodgers pitch
and kicked in and shut them out set a postseason
record that I think those two teams, I think the
winner of that series was going to win the World Series.
On the Yankee side of things, I think what's disappointing
in part of the thought process there is that, Okay,
let's say the Yankees before this season, an epiphany happened.
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They got they listened to their fan base, said hey,
maybe care about the fundamentals and run the first hard
and you know, care about base running, and hey, if
you do something bad, there might be a punishment to them.
You might get benched labor, you might get benched Volpy,
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you might anyone. You need to respect the game of baseball,
the baseball gods. I think if that actually got taught
into the Yankees organization. God, I think this team would
have won a lot of games this year. Clay Holmes
blew the most saves in baseball because they believed in
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what they wanted to believe instead of the facts that
Clay Holmes. And this is the part that probably stings
us the most. A lot of Clay home saves, blown
saves were the exact same thing. It was infield single,
it was infield air on a tricky play. It was
you know, one walk, one one weird infield play and
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then like a hit and that's what blew the save.
And you know, Boonie would come on our show and
he would talk to the press after and he'd say, well,
Clay's throwing the ball great. And you know, if if
Volpie makes that play, we never get there. If Glabor
makes your team doesn't make those plays, that's the problem.
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So although all of your metrics have told you that
Clay Holmes is throwing the ball great, what you have
put around him has not put him in a position
to be the best closer in baseball, never mind a
top ten closer in baseball, which for a month, the
month of June, they would come out the whole team
in interviews would say Clay is the best closer in baseball,
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not with what you've provided him with, and just know
in general, but if you say something enough, maybe it'll
come true. That Yeah, if this, if that mentality had
gone drilled into Yankees before the season this year, I
think they could have they could have won like one
hundred and five games. They could have won one hundred
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and eight games. I think part of the problem with
baseball is that means nothing currently, Like how many wins
you truly get in the regular season currently doesn't matter technically,
as long as there's enough to get in where the
seeding is, and having that one seed, like I guess
they would have had home field over the Dodgers, which
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who knows what could have happened.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But I think third base doesn't get just given up
three times in Game one.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Would have been interesting and that yeah, these these Yankees.
Because the other thing, when I'm talking about the regular
season wins, the AL East was down like the Orioles
limp to the finish line. The Rais and Socks and
J's were out of it. Uh, there was really no
other dominant team like Houston and essentially not limped into
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the finish line but they didn't run away.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They put themselves in such a hole at the beginning
that like they weren't pushing for anything.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
At the end, Oh, like, what what did they finish?
Wins wise?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
In my head, it's like eighty eight looking into it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Haven't looked at the regular season standings in a while,
eighty eight eighty eight wins. So I don't know. In
a way, it's therapeutic to hear all this come out
and the Dodgers saying this, and you pray that the
Yankees front office is gonna eat it and learn their lesson.
Yankee fans are not, are not believing that they think
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they're gonna come out and say a bunch of bs
and be happy they made it to the World Series
for the first time in fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And there's the thought that, like, even if they don't
come out and say that, that's what they would have
done if not for the Dodgers saying all of this
after right, Oh god, if they don't, there's no yuh
a part of anyone that we talked to that would
believe like they came to that conclusion on their own.
And it's not because they got embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I mean, they They're gonna say they lost the World
Series on one random inning when everything, the Dodgers and
everything everyone else is telling you it wasn't random. That's
the whole thing. That's the whole thing. Uh So we
will see what that turns into for this Yankees off season.
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The Wan Soto free agency has begun, will be quite,
will become quite the storyline throughout, And to be honest,
I'm I'm excited to get into all the other stuff now.
I'm excited to where's Pete Alonzo gonna actually land, where's
Bregman gonna go? There's a pitching crop.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Man, there's a group.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean, if if Cole's option doesn't get picked up,
I do think it will. But Corbyn Burns, Max Freed,
I mean, these are guys that are impact, change your
rotation type players. I feel like there's Blake snell Is
back in a free agency that's gonna be an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
No qualifying offer like you can you can make.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A couple actual rotations with the free agent pool, which
you can't normally say that. So there is some starting
pitching depth hitting. I think per usual hitting just gets
thinner than you'd like. Quick Soto Adamis. His market is
really big at the shortstop position, Pro far Bragman, Hernandez Antander,
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Christian Walker, Jah Hassan, Kim Pete, Tyler O'Neil, and then yeah,
I mean that's you can make like one good lineup
out of the hitters, the pitching, you can.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's better than last year's. But it's not, you know,
not in the territory of like an all time free agency.
But there's good players.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
There's good players that I'm excited to sink my teeth
and I'm excited to see who's gonna get in the
mix or the Tigers gonna gonna try to put some
money forward to try to boost that young team. It
was funny reading one of the articles about them because
they were like, well, you know, the Dodgers at the
end of the year, they were down to one pitcher
and they need a lot of hitting Tigers, excuse me,
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so they can they can kind of go whichever route
they really want in free agency play the value been game,
I don't know, And yeah, it's kind of what are
the behemoths gonna do? What can could the Yankees get
Sodo and ad will? They will so too go somewhere else.
How are the Phillies gonna be in the dance because
you know they love to dance, all the big boys,
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and then seeing what other teams are going to step
up and bolster, because I do think the other walk
away is the Dodgers did it and they're gonna be
here for a while. In the Brave, they're really good
and they add a down year, but they're probably gonna
bounce back. The Mets are looking to get in the mix.
They made the CS Padres is gonna be an interesting
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offseason for them. How much are they gonna.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Do the polka?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Will any Central teams evoke anything? And like, which step
does Houston take? Alex Bregman's a free agent after an
eighty eight win team the Mariners, did they ever have
a solution? Or is their team's goal to literally win
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eighty three games a year? They came out and said
that that's insane, that's insane. Well, the Boston Red Sox
get really back into a free agency again. Toronto, what's
happening up there? You always hear they have money? Are
they full rebuilding? The Rays will do something weird. I'm
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excited to get into all of it. We'll be doing
it here. We'll be doing it on Talking Baseball. You know,
if you thought that was a little bit of talking
Yanks there, we're obviously doing it there. But it was
down to the Yankees and the Dodgers, and the Yankees
got embarrassed, embarrassed at the party, and the Dodgers are
openly talking about it, not like tipping pitches, not like
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we thought we could be better at them than this,
just playing the game of baseball. The Yankees couldn't do it,
yet they had enough talent to take them to the
World Series and almost win three out of five games.
That's how much talent they had. Infuriating a little sad.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
One last infuriating thing about about that play there is
I just haven't been able to shake the last couple
of days. Just mookies not fast anymore. That's a pretty
underrated part of this And I haven't been able to
shake that for like two days.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
He can, uh, you know, I think if movie needs
to turn one on and get down the line, I
think on that play we were getting the best You're
twenty four movie has to offer. And then the breakdown
had a good side by side of the first inning
versus last one. I'm thinking he has a chance us
he's a step ahead. But not even talking about Stanton's
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base running. Let's see what happens for the upcoming Yankees
and the rest of the league, because part of getting
ridish shifts was like defense was supposed to be more
in vogue, and it was for other teams. It was
for other teams excited to get into the baseball offseason. Truly,
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let's do some foosball. Because we had a nice NFL Sunday.
I thought we were getting the Germany game this weekend.
You know that gets me excited. It's next weekend, big one.
I think it's our g men, right.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Giants, Panthers sending our best Jesus Man.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Sorry Munich. Let's see this goes back to Thursday, and
I'm if some of you were confused by what I
was saying. If you remember, the New York Jets were
favorites against the Texans on Thursday Night Football, the two
and six Jets at the time against the six and
two Texans, and it was just the Vegas smell test
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was off. Why were these Jets favored? It was a
do or die game for them and for the Texans,
it was not, and they lost two of their wide receivers,
so there was a little football side to it too.
But I mean, this is just an example of Vegas
knows something. Just question whatever you were thinking. Because the
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Jets they come out and they win this game twenty
one to thirteen. Rogers looks better. As the game goes on,
we get a Garrett Wilson signature catch that was disgusting,
and it kind of hits my new rule of sports.
I don't know if that should have been a catch,
Like his shin gets down kind of inbounds, and this
it's a weird like shin is part of the knee
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rule in football, and his shin does hit down before
the knee. I wish there was a rule in sports
that was something like, hey, this is so close and
so cool, count it. And maybe that's what did happen.
I think his shin does get in bounds, but to
overturn it from not catch to catch on replay.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's it's a little bit of this kind of all
that feels not in the spirit of the rule.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's it was tight, it was a sick catch. It counts.
The Jets win that game. They stay alive. And it
is funny how quickly their narrative people were looking at
their schedule and they were like, hey, there's no guaranteed wins,
like where's where's the one in one in eight team
or anything like that. I currently think that the there's
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two teams upcoming for them that have winning records, the
Cardinals next week, Mike Cardinals. I'm actually excited to talk
about them, and then a game against the Bills. So
like Colt Seahawks Dolphins, Jags Rams Dolphins to end it,
people have a little Jets hope. That's a very dangerous game,
(38:16):
especially watching what I watched a Yankee Stadium last week.
But good for them for keeping the hope alive. This
brings us to the Sunday Slate. I'll check this one
off quickly, and I wish I had more of a
more resounding tone about it. My Broncos got routed by
(38:36):
the Ravens. If you've been listening, you know the Ravens
are currently my Super Bowl favorites, and it's because some
of these stats. Lamar Jackson in this game was sixteen
of nineteen for three touchdowns, Derrick Henry one hundred and
six yards, two touchdowns, Zay Flowers five for one to
twenty seven two touchdowns. They won forty one to ten.
(38:56):
It was actually somewhat close, and the Broncos showed a
little bit of fight in the first half. But these
Ravens are clearly in a different class of football right now.
Bo Nicks receiving touchdown. The only score of the Broncos
got touchdown in this game. So the Broncos wins were
against lesser competition. This all added up on it and
(39:21):
they got beat up pretty good. The Atlanta Falcons a
nice twenty seven to twenty one win over the Cowboys.
Kurky kind of the modern passing line this year. The
yards aren't insane two twenty two, but nineteen of twenty
four for three touchdowns. Beijeon has a nice game. The
Cousin's Darnell Mooney connection, I've been pretty pleased with myself.
(39:45):
Got that going in a couple fantasy leagues and those two,
you know, having a connection used to kind of mean something.
They like have it. It's kind of cool to watch.
They beat the Cowboys. The Cowboys are in a tough spot.
Dak leaves this game, CD leaves this game. Zeke Elliott
wasn't invited to this game because he's been missing team meetings.
(40:07):
It's a bad sign. The Cowboys are just dearth of talent.
Like there's the guys you know, you know Ced Lamb,
you know Dak, you know Zeke, Michael Parsons has been out.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Dak is now out.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Dak is now out. That defense is kind of a
built to play from ahead defense to rush you and
make turnovers happen and make pressure happen. And they haven't
been ahead that They've been getting beat up on the
ground and in every which way. To be honest, the
three and five Cowboys, Man, it's not looking good. I
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saw a lot going on, people talking about Dak and
Kirk Cousins kind of doing a who would you rather have?
And it's been funny to watch Kirk like slowly climb
the QB chart in recent years, just because he went
from like, Okay, you're gonna get an average product, well
he might get killed on primetime games, to like, yay,
(41:11):
you're kind of getting above average product, but he doesn't
really take chances to Now Kirk kind of balls out.
I've told people he's one of my favorite qbs to
watch because he like he tries to make plays out there.
I will say this, Kirk and Dak, I think if
you gave Dak the keys to this Atlanta offense, I
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think you would get a very similar, if not slightly
better result. But if you did a QB trade for
these two, I don't think anything changes for either team.
So I don't know. I heard Kirk and Kirk's kind
of become my guy, which is shocking. I heard Kirk
getting more love than Dak, and I think right now
these two are very much part of their circumstance that
(41:58):
if you gave Dak Bijon. Hell, if you gave Dak
Alger with Mooney, with Drake London with Pitts, I think
you would get close, if not slightly better than Kirk.
Stats this year, they are six and three. The Falcons
look like they're running away with that division. Speaking of
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the Bills, Tyler Bass sixty one yard game winner, the
field goal kicking, It's insane, it's weird, man, how good
these guys are now? The Bills are four to oh
at home. The Dolphins made this a game. Josh Allen,
(42:39):
I guess they get the final drive done at the end.
Although sixty one yard field goal not exactly what you're
looking for. Tua back out there for the Dolphins. Man
some of these efficiencies. Dolphin was a Dolphin Tua. It's
kind of a never mind. He was twenty five for
twenty eight passing. That's insane. That would have been like
(42:59):
the best game to ever happen in two thousand and seven.
A chan for them. It's really fun to watch him
run the ball. Has a receiving touchdown two in this game.
But yeah, the Dolphins dropped to two and six with Tua.
They're obviously a different team, but they've got a big
uphill climb and the Bills are real. The Bills are real.
(43:20):
Keon Coleman is I mean a rookie receiver. He has
a horrible drop that leads to an interception. He's also
got some dog in them. They're playing without Amari Cooper,
who they traded for. It's like they have just enough
weapons and if there's something that Khalil Shakira has been
really good, if Cooper can come in and be a
version of a Marii Cooper, They've got a lot of
(43:44):
a lot of tools in their tool chest. My guy
Ray Davis listed five eight two twenty I'll let you
cook those numbers however you want. The Bills are here
and they are one of the I think there's like
four or so T teams that people are really considering
Super Bowl contenders right now, and I think they're one
(44:05):
of those teams. Raiders, Bengals, Bengals. I'm not ready to
come back yet, although they've won three out of four.
They're at Baltimore next week, so that'll be the big
test for them. They're four and five. They end up
hanging forty one points on the Raiders. They still have
a lot of their pieces in place, and Chase Brown
(44:27):
has kind of taken over that starting running back job
and looks good. So maybe that was the missing dynamic
from their offense. Hey, if they can do some against
the Ravens, I'll be back in on my Bengals. I'm
not there yet. I'm not there yet. Chargers Brown's will
the Jamis story continue? It did not. Chargers win twenty
(44:48):
seven to ten, felt like even more than that, it
was twenty to twenty three. For a lot of this game,
Herbert with a Herbert stat line JK. Dobbins fourteen for
eighty five two touchdowns. I made a real ski trade.
In one of my fantasy leagues this week, I traded
Zay Flowers away ouch for JK. Dobbins. I had some
(45:13):
wide receiver depth, I didn't have running back depth. I
thought they were on similar planes. I've always liked Dobbins.
He just always gets hurt, and I feel like running
backs are just more fucked up than ever.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Like I see feels like a weird running base.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
It just feels with NFL passing, like hey, you could
have a great day from like four Packers wide receivers
on any given day, each team has like one running
back that you can have odd day out of.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
So I made the move and it hurt at first
because Flowers scored first. I was like, oh boy, But
then Dobbins got me too. They both scored two touchdowns.
So fun trade. How about that? Uh Chargers five and
three go Chargers goal and Quinn Johnson. He's become the
first pick that I don't know people were selling on.
(46:03):
I guess he's become their big play guy. And he
made a couple in this one. Four catches for one
to eighteen in a Tuddy Browns two and seven. Yeah,
Patriots Titans, No Titans winning overtime. Great game. Drake May
at the buzzer kind of a cool play. I'll give
him that.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
That play was cool cool.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Got no problems with Drake May him, him and Bo
Nicks are checking rookie quarterback boxes just everything else around
them more or less the Commander, They're the Commanders are
seven and two. Hello, they beat the New York Football Giants.
Giants showed some fight late in this one as they
(46:44):
dropped to two and seven oh and five at home.
Justin Pennick not happy about it. Yeah, I don't know this.
This didn't even feel like the Commander's best brand of football.
They were missing Brian Robinson Junior, their usual other lead tailback,
with Austin Eckler man that there was a report before
(47:04):
the game that players are asking to be traded to Washington,
which that sentence has never been said before. So they
are as hot in the streets as you can get,
while the New York Giants are as not. Another tough
one meatow Lands. The Panthers beat the Saints. I mean,
this is kind of a no except Derek Carr was
(47:27):
just getting dragged by former teammates current teammates. They fire
their coach Dennis Allen. They should have won this game
and they didn't. The Panthers, I will say something that's
kind of cool, and I don't know. I need Kamara
to keep running the ball, so either trade them or
(47:48):
figure it out. That's fantasy loser stuff. I'm sorry that
came out. Trek Carr just getting killed, crucified. If you
want to see something that you should like just as
a human being. Bryce Young smiling on a football field
after the game. He was smiling. He threw a touchdown
pass and he was smiling. Man. I know, we just
(48:10):
we kind of do the NFL quarterback thing and it's like, well,
Carolina sucks and he's too small and he don't look good,
and we're just like whatever. This guy was like the man,
this guy was the top pick. This guy went to Alabama,
was a stut came to the NFL and was like,
you're the future. You're one of the futures of the league.
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And he's got bench for Dalton. To see him have
a smile on his face and playing some decent football,
was happy for him and maybe that's just something he
can build on. Where the Saints it seems like they're
gonna unbuild that whole thing. Not a phreezing Eagles beat
(48:52):
the Jaguars should have been a dominant victory, Siriani. Guy's
out of his mind. Some of the decisions he's making
on a team where you have an automatic one and
a half yard game whenever you want it are just absurd.
Some of the fourth down plays and some of the
(49:13):
things they were doing just completely out of hand. When
you have Saquon Barkley just creating like an all time
highlight if you haven't seen it, the juke out spin
move into the reverse hurdle, which if that doesn't make
sense to you, it shouldn't because those are words that
nobody said before watching it in livetime. It's pretty cool,
(49:39):
just because I was like, I have never seen that,
and I think that was sick. Then when you got
the first replay, you were like, and it's confirmed that
was insanity. They have that guy, and with the catches,
DeVante Smith like him, and Garrett Mitchell like those catches.
I don't think those ever got made before. I think
those were just called incomplete and we moved on. Uh,
(50:03):
those guys are sick puppies. AJ Brown is back for them.
The Eagles are six and two should probably be seven
and one. I think they need to start getting lumped
into the actual Super Bowl teams again, which good for
them for where they were. I think Eagles fans similar
to what I just watched with the Yankees. Their fear
(50:24):
is themselves. Their fear is Sirianni. Their fear is the
dumb stuff that they do. And I don't know, I
just don't think Eagles fans are gonna really believe unless
they get really hot, which we should have been talking
about them winning this game in a blowout. They're up
sixteen to nothing at the half. The Jacks show some
(50:44):
fight two and seven j Vill Cardinals beat the Bears
twenty nine to nine. I had this as my against
the spread pick. I bet actual money on this one
because I think the Cardinals are good and the Bears
are not. The Bears defense and special teams has saved
Caleb Williams in two to three games, and again I've admitted,
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like I I'm not a Caleb hater, but I just
need to see it, just like any rookie quarterback like
there was. If he had came out his first year
out of USC, I would have said, WHOA, this guy's
the next Mahomes passed the torch. He went to college
another year he did not play as well. That's scouts
and everyone I know. The team wasn't as good, but
he took a step down. Anyways, end up like rolling
(51:30):
on the Bears twenty nine to nine. These Cardinals have
some fight. They get a blowout win after back to
back field goal kick wins, they've won three in a row.
They host the Jets and then they play the Seahawks.
Kyler looks great. Kyler looks fantastic as long as they
can keep him healthy, which that's the fear, But it
feels like he's been doing things to stay healthier and
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not get the big hit and not running around like
a crazy man as much. James Connor's just a workhorse.
Like we live in this get over running back societies,
James Connor. We didn't need to get over Derrick Henry.
I understand, like some guys run out of tread on
the tire, but some guys don't. Connor's killing it. Lions
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beat the Packers. This was another one where the Packers
were like, this should be a big game for them.
They can beat the Lions. They would go to seven
and two they've got them in Lambeau weather monster hurt
them here it's pouring rain, which I do feel like
that favors the Lions, who like to be nasty and
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pound the ball on the ground and all that jazz.
Where when the Packers are at their best, it's best.
It's Jordan Love spreading the ball out to all those
young talented receivers. I don't know how much of an
effect that had in this. The Lions are really good.
They're now seven and one, real super Bowl team. And
I also think there's some stat out there that the
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teams the Lions play the next week, those teams are
like horrible against the spread, and I think they lose
a lot because the Lions are so physical that they
just beat you down. Pretty good thing to have as
a football team. Four and oh on the road. What's
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that beat.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Cool stat?
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah right, No, it's it's very cool. It's badass. It's
Dan Campbell. It's these Lions rams beat the Seahawks in overtime.
Gonna be honest, was watching was red zoning and watching
some of this game. JSN has his breakout Seahawks game.
So they're hopeful for the future when they get DK
(53:43):
Metcalf was out of this game that maybe that could
make their passing attack to the next level. They've been
waiting for this one with Kenneth Walker and Gino. Dude,
Matthew Stafford. Some of the throws he makes are disgusting.
DeMarcus Robinson had about three catches that if you saw
them once in a game, you'd be like, that's sick.
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Safford to him alone, he had three of those. It's
really cool. I know he's Trev's friend and shit whatever
that he's now appreciated as like a great quarterback because
he is. Yes, he was in Detroit during the bad
times for too long. He might have to. He got
out of there and it worked out. Your final game
(54:26):
was Vikings Colts. Joe Flacco gets the start and a
game where the Vikings had a couple sloppy ones. Darnold
with an intercept red zone and interception in the red zone.
Excuse me, He ends up with three touchdown passings.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
How do you?
Speaker 1 (54:41):
How do you like that? Justin Jefferson is a stud.
The Vikings are six and two. They're one of the
only like fringe, are they a Super Bowl teams right now?
I think them Packers maybe you could say Falcons like
those are kind of a tier below the tier. Hey,
if Sam Darnold can be a b I think they
(55:04):
are super Bowl type team. That's the question. We'll see
as we're going in the Colts man, I don't know,
Flacco fighting out there while you got Ar five on
the bench. It's gonna be interesting to see how they
juggle that back to back losses for them. And they
are hosting the Bills next week, so hey, tune into
the Chiefs tonight trying to keep the wind streak going
(55:25):
against the Yucks Tampa Bay Buccaneers Kansas City minus nine.
Will I touch it? Maybe? I don't know. See if
I'm bored tonight. Hey, a lot of baseball offseason, a
lot of other sports incoming. Thank you guys, you are
the best telling about Uncle Dan.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
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