November 5, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan thinks Tom Brady’s ownership stake in the Las Vegas Raiders is adversely affecting his ability to analyze games for FOX. And former NFL head coach Bill Cowher drops by to recap Week 9 of the NFL season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio OUR two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Eds Dan Patrick Show.
Adam Schefter reporting that Jerry Jones, the Cowboys owner, says
Dak Prescott likely to be placed on the injured reserve
list due to that hamstring injury, which means he would
be sidelined at least four games a minimum of four games.
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Our one, we talked about the Detroit Lions, they picked
up a defensive lineman and the trade deadline. Later on today, Paully,
would you recap the deal that the Lions struck with
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Zadarius Smith, the veteran pass rusher for the Browns, going
to the Lions for a fifth and sixth draft pick
in then upcoming draft.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, we didn't know if Max Crosby would be available,
Miles Garrett available, but you got to get somebody because
you don't have a pass rush. But the trade deadline
is here. Teams have until for Eastern to make any
last second deals, and teams have been uncharacteristically aggressive. Receivers
like Amari Cooper, DeVante Adams, DeAndre Hopkins, Deontay Johnson all
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been moved in twenty twenty four. But you can go
back the league history shows that there have been great trades.
Mike Haynes joined Lester Hayes, giving the Raiders one of
the greatest secondaries of all time. That was nineteen eighty three.
Von Miller traded to the Rams twenty twenty one right
before the deadline, helped the Rams win the Super Bowl
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twenty ten. The Bills sent a disgruntled Marshawn Lynch to
the Seahawks middle of the season, went on to power
them to a Super Bowl a couple of years later. See,
you never know if you can get that opportunity. Who's buying,
who's selling, But we'll keep an eye on that. Mike
Florio will join us a little bit later on. He's
keeping track with Pro Football Talk. We'll talk to Bill Kauer,
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former Steeler head coach Hall of Famer, will join us,
coming up in about twenty minutes from now. I mentioned
this last hour that there was some kind of speculation.
I don't know if anybody was on record saying this,
that it appeared as if the Buffalo Bills were aware
of to a tongue Ilois conditioned that maybe they were
easing up on him. I don't know if they have
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any plays that have been isolated there. I don't know
if anybody from Buffalo has confirmed that or not. But
that was interesting because I think PAULI may have brought
this up. Could you see a scenario where these players
ease up on to a tongua Ilo? And I thought,
I don't know how you can think that way because
it's so quick, it's split second reaction time. I'm going
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to try to protect him. But we'll talk to Bill
Kauer about that possibility. Also, Bill Cower is all in
on the Chargers. He'll join his coming up. Stat of
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two is going to be watch Seaton O'Connor. Let me
get you some results.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Here day, all right.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
We asked in our one if the Chiefs were good
or great? Okay, it's pretty close. The results right now,
sixty one percent have them as good.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I don't know if I'm making more out of this,
but I was surprised at this. DJ Moore is the
wide receiver for the Bears. There is a moment in
the loss this past weekend against Arizona where he just
walks off to the sidelines. I don't know if he
was injured. I don't know if they've given any explanation,
but the play is still going on. He just walks
over to the sideline. Well, he was on sixty seventy
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the score and the wide receive. Was asked if Matt
Eberflus has lost the locker room, and he says, I
want to say no.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That's not no. He's saying he wants to say no. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The audio is not very good because I want to
be fair to the situation. You know, does he say
that I want to say no? What was the other interpretation, Pauline.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I like, you know, we weren't sure because audio is
really tough. I sent a note over to the score
and this is what they posted that DJ Moore said,
I want to say no to the answer from the
question from the morning show guys.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, so not exactly the ringing endorsement of Matt Eberflus.
This has been a mess. So the Bears lose to Arizona.
Eber Flus was questioned for leaving Caleb Williams in the game.
You had the Tyreek Stevenson disciplinary action when he said
he wasn't going to do this, and then you have
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this where you got DJ Moore saying that he wants
to say no, that eber Flus hasn't lost the locker room,
and then he goes on to say the message yesterday
was that we know we're four and four. Now it's
like being zero and zero, oh and oh, but you
have to go out there and start stacking wins like
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we did. That's the best thing you can do, and
then let the chips fall how they fall after we do.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
So.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't know if it's a thing or not. It
feels like it is a little bit. It's obviously going
to be exacerbated amplified in Chicago because everything has been
this season. What's at stake, got a chance to make
the playoffs. Everybody else in the division is getting better,
but you're not everybody else is entertaining playoff aspirations.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Caleb Williams hasn't been great. Jaden Daniels has been even
Drake may has had moments.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Bo Nicks, but you're four and four. Four and four
not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But we wondered if the ending to the Commander's game
there would be a fallout, almost a hangover, and there
was you go to Arizona and you don't look threatening
at all, then you lose by twenty I don't know
if they do anything at the trade deadline, but this
feels like this is once it permeates the locker room. Man,
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it's tough to get out. You just can't bring Lisol
in there, and all of a sudden it's like, hey,
we're good. That ah false alarm. We love them, you
know you hear. Sometimes players are all in, but they
don't play all in.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Like the Raiders. Man, we're all in on Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Everybody went to management, Davante Adams, Max Crosby, we want
him here, and then all of a sudden, you don't
play like you really want him here. Also, this came
up yesterday that could you see a scenario where Bill
Belichick would come back and coach and coach the Raiders
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with Tom Brady as a minority owner. And I'm thinking,
I don't see that happening. Now Bill has hit this
fountain of youth with his girlfriend, and maybe you want
to just go out there and you want to live
the lifestyle and you want to be in Vegas, baby.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But that would be interesting if Tom Brady was sort
of Bill Belichick's boss in this situation. I I do
see this scenario. I have no information whatsoever. What if
the Raiders had the number one pick and I'm Mark Davis,
what I say to Dion Sanders, I'm gonna take We're
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gonna take Shador, and we want you to be our
head coach. I don't think it's crazy. And if you're
the Raiders, what's the downside? You got to get your
quarterback and you can love Antonio Pierce, but if you
get Dion Son in Vegas, now we've become relevant. They're
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not relevant even with Tom Brady as a minority owner. Now,
you know Brady, See, I wonder they fired the entire
offensive staff with the Raiders loss. Tom Brady's doing the game.
Isn't he did Tom know what was going on? Is
it part time owner or minority owner.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Because which would you'd be He would be mad if
he didn't.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Was not giving a heads up.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't know if he's doing double duties where he's
doing the game, but he's also being informed by the
way we're going to release the entire offensive staff here.
It's problematic with Tom trying to do both of these things,
and it's not something you normally focus on because we
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do trust that the analysts they go to practice, they
get a lot of inside information. Some coaches more forthcoming,
some quarterbacks more forthcoming. But you need to have your
announcer know what's going on. He's not allowed to go
into these meetings, now, can he get that information? Yes,
But if you said Tom Brady got to go in
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the locker room and say to Patrick Mahomes, hey, I'm
curious about this, chances are mahome is going to tell
Tom that. But he's not allowed to exchange information or
get information because he works for the Raiders. Crazy problematic.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yes, boy Luria will probably have more on this. But
Brady also was asked about if people were asking about
he critiqued an official who kicks someone out of a game,
So he was critiquing the decision of the official. Part
of his deal as being an owner, he's not allowed
to public or critique officials.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well he's They've got Tom Brady rules and that's unfortunate here.
They allowed him to be a minority owner and then
he's also the lead broadcaster for Fox, you know, And
that's why I say he's not going to be doing
ten years of broadcasting. It's just not I mean, okay,
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you get your fix. They're paying you a lot of money.
He's probably got other things he's going to do. But
you would hope he would be able to do his
job like everybody else in that position does their job.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But he can't.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And I do think that that would make him better
at his job, because there are times when Tom relies
on cliches. When you get information, when you have something pertinent,
that's what you want. I want Tom telling me something
that I don't know. And you know, he's going to
be graded at the end of the year. I'm you know,
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maybe Jim Gray, his buddy, will do it, do that,
or somebody at Fox would sit down and say, hey,
here's the deal or going into the super Bowl. Here's
the deal. These are things that are really good. Tom
is a rookie and needs to know what is good TV.
He's never, you know, probably been asked that question, Tom,
do you know what good TV is? And the answer
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is he does not because their job, their good TV
was how they play, not what they say. Now it's
what you say, and that's where Tom's going to be
able to do his job. And you can't have distractions.
It's tough enough. Everybody's watching, everybody's grading, everybody's critical.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Everybody loves Greg.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Olsen, and that I think is going to be problematic
for Tom. The learning curve. He doesn't get the benefit
of the doubt. He should, but he doesn't mean he's
the greatest quarterback, greatest player of all time, the most decorated.
You're getting paid all this money, you have to be great.
And we're still waiting for him to be able to
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relax and do a game instead of trying to be
a broadcaster doing a game. And that's why I look
forward to that. But I think being around these players
talking to these coaches, Hey, you know what, this is
what I heard. Hey, Coach Reid told me this. You
know what I noticed about the Chiefs. This is what
they do on third and long. Now you got my attention.
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That's where I always wanted to have. It would have
been the Peyton Manning cam where the team comes on
the field and you have the camera that follows you know,
the action on the field, gets right behind the quarterback.
And that's what I want, you know, I'd love to
have them do that with Tom. But I thought if
Peyton Manning was an analyst, that's what I would want.
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Peyton's taking me to the line of scrimmage. Now I'm
in the game. Now it's real time. He's saying something
to me, and then he would be like, you see this,
there's the mic linebacker there. You know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna I'm gonna look the other way. I'm gonna
I'm gonna use my eyes to get rid of him,
and I'm going down the left side of the field.
Like That's what I would want, because there's only a
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few guys who can give you that they can conceptualize,
and that's what Tom could do, and that's what they
should do with him. I want more of that, not
just giving me kind of cliche, you know, answers with
things so long winded way of saying, Tom, you know,
what kind of impact is he going to have with
the Raiders? And would they entertain? You know, Dion insure door.
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Could you imagine the AFC West, Andy Reid, Sean Payton,
Jim Harball, Dean Sanders. Wow, that would be That'd be
pretty entertaining there. All right, we'll talk to Bill Cower,
he'll join us. Do we have the poll question for
hour two?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Seaton? Right now?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
We're sticking with the pole question from our one?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Oh, has to do with the chiefs? Yeah? Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Did we forget about putting a new pole question on
for hour two? See what came to us? You know,
I'm sure Todd has one.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Actually Todd sent a whole bunch of them, and I
don't really want to use them. There's just too much, like, uh,
too many of Todd's private thoughts come through in his
pole questions. And I'm just not in the mood today.
My pet peeve for today is Todd's okay, genitalia?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
What whoa?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Sorry, can I not say that?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Left turn?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah? Is it really a left turn?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I didn't see that phrase?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Coming, Todd, what is the poll question that you know
we should at least be aware of.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
I was being a little fun with one of the four,
but I have to be invited to say that.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Okay, why don't you say it? Why don't you say it?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think I heard you run this by the back
room guys earlier. This Todd runs his lines, so nobody
out here listens to him.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Well, Dylan does the stand up comedy thing, so I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So Todd goes in back with the big german everybody
in the back, Mario, and then he does these one
liners and then he kind of gauges the audience there.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
So yeah, the questionable one of the four is what's
your excitement level? On this day? I'm feeling kind of soft,
if you must know, I have an election.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right, So that's that's like a little, uh, you know,
kind of a double entendree there.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
I can't imagine that.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
No, that's good.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
No, But there's really no reason to, uh make the
poll question about your genitalia.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
That's all it's about. Everybody's what's your excitement level? That's
what's my excitement level?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Well, what's about?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Really?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Then it would really be about men's genitalia, their excitement level.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
That is true. There will be women voters involved.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
They're allowed to do that, believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Currently this might be the last election, but they are
allowed currently to vote right now?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yes? Yes, wasn't that Susan b. Anthony? Wasn't she the
one that?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Sue?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, Remember Sue b Anthony, She's the first to vote.
Wasn't allowed to she was voting? All right, get out
and vote. By the way, Let's take a break. Bill
Cower will join us coming up next back after this.
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Bill Kauer back with us. Who do you get mistaken
for on the street?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
For myself, Actually, people don't believe it's me half the time.
So it's like, so, but I have to ask you
a question, though. If I send you a bobblehead, do
I make your artifacts that you have around you, so
sure why I make the what I so? I wasn't
just sure because you have almost like you had this categorized.
It looks like a categorized mess. Yes, and I used
to It's kind of like that's why my desk used
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to be as well, like when I was coaching.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, but how can you have a messy desk if
you're the coach, You're supposed to be buttoned up.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
It looked messy, but it is actually categorized. I knew
exactly that there were some things that I were prioritized
more than anything else, but I had to continue to
look at it because that always reminded me that there
were still things to do.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I know where everything is now. Nobody else knows
where everything is, but I do.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, you would know if something was out of Yes.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yes, they mess with me.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Sometimes they'll move things just to see if I'm aware,
and I'm aware.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'm aware.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
So I'm gonna send you a bibblehead. And the first
thing I want to do is find out somewhere in
that categorized mess that you have. I know that I've
been placed there, and there's a reason I was placed
where I was placed, all right, So.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I will do it, but you might have to find
it like.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I, I and I and I and I will recognize
it only when I recognize it. After I come on,
I will say, and I will then ask you, of
course of answering the question that you may have wish,
we will do it shortly. I will then ask you
the reason why I was placed there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, but you don't get mistaken for anybody, like any famous,
famous person actor, no.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I you know it's funny, though, Dan, funny because I
I came to New York and I walked down the
street and I would walk in and someone they would
stop me and they'd say, hey, well aren't you and
they would just I know, I know you do I know.
I go, yeah, I go, I said, uh football, I go, no, no, no, oh,
you're that Time Warner cable guy. I go, So I
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was a Time Warner cable guy for a couple of years.
I go football. I go, no, no, no, no, football, you're
that Time Warner cable guy. Well, yeah I am, I was.
But the reason I'm the Time Warned cable guy because
of football. Okay, So, so I was mistaken for that
Time Warner cable guy.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I love that uh where, what's your philosophy on the
Buccaneers at the end of the game going for to
on the road?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
No, you know what, I go back And so funny
because you know, I thought about this last night and
think about again this morning. As Marty Schottenheimer, who was
my mentor, he always said to me when he comes
down to make a decision, don't think of place, think
of players. And so I'm okay with what when what
took place? I mean, I think from Todd's standpoint of
watching it down through the years, and you talk about
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Gopher two, but you know the two point play. Keep
in mind the success rate this year is like thirty
one percent, So it doesn't really make sense to do that. Now.
I understand Patrick Mahomes be on the other side, would
make you think, do you want to give him a
chance in overtime if you don't get the coin flip?
And so those things come up, and we saw Mahomes
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do it against the forty nine ers in Super Bowl.
We saw them again do it last night. But at
the same time, you also have to believe in your
own football team and give them a chance. Again, let
the players dictate it, not in your decisions.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So if you had your wide receivers, you know who
you're missing, Evans and Godwin, would you have been more
likely to then go for the two point conversion.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
No, because I think he believed in his defense as well.
I think I think number one, let's let this thing
get in overtime. And again, if I had those receivers,
now we're coming down to a coin flip, and I
think the biggest thing I would just say, you know,
I think you want to revisit again. I know that
you let him score a touchdown, Just that having both
teams have a chance to touch the ball in overtime
to be and I know that what we have is fair.
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You got to play defense too, But man, if you
have two offensive football teams that are built and when
you want to see him, both touch the ball, even
if the first one is a touchdown. So that's the
only thing I've just saying about.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That, I can't. I can't let Mahomes have the ball.
I got a chance. I got to kill him. I do,
I know, I hear you. I just you're at the two.
You may not get back down there, and I know
that he's going to get back down there. I got
to kill him, can't can't do it. But doesn't it
feel I don't know if this feels the same way
with you Bill. They feel almost under dogish, like everybody's
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caught up in the Lions. They're scoring points like the Chiefs.
It's like, man, they're barely getting by. They don't know,
and they're undefeated.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
They're comfortable in close games. I mean, I think you
look at them and think about the people they're doing
this with. Travis Kelcey, we all said he was getting
too old, he's too slow, he's too worried about going
into Taylor Swifts concerts. He had ten catches last night.
Cream Hunt was on the street. Nobody wanted him as
a running back. Uh course Cleveland last year. You think
they wouldn't want him back in cream He's been there
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before DeAndre Hopkins. Why they give up for him like
a fifth or sixth round pick. These guys were only
integral parts of that and they come in and they
just keep plugging it in and they're going to get
some guys back. But Checko's going to come back at
some point in this season, and he does a masterful job.
Stea speG Nola I think is one of the best
defensive coordinators in the league. But they have a quarterback
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that is very comfortable in close games, very comfortable in
the fourth quarter, and you know, and they just continue
to do it. Weekend we got and they're playing they're
playing on the edge. But because they're playing on the edge,
they keep that edginess weekend and week out. They don't
get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We're talking to Bill Cower, the Hall of Famer, Sergeant Slaughter,
the rest of Ah.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I did get that. I used to. Yeah,
he's right, Sergeant Slaughter.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I knew it was going to come to me.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Right right, Yes, yes, yes, they actually I think Sergeant Slaughter.
I mean I think God bless him, and I said
sergeant Slaughter, but I think they actually said, aren't you
Bill Kawers. So I think we both bought it. So uh.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it was Dominic Foxworth on ESPN who said
it felt like the Bills were easing up on Tua
and I don't know if you can you know, and
Dominic's former defensive back. I don't know if you can
go into a game thinking about how you're going to
hit to a tongue of via looa did does that
seem viable real.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I mean, no, I mean, but I think it's there.
I mean, I think we all have a great respect
for Tua with what he's done. I think when the
heat of battle comes and you you get down to it,
I think early on maybe that be the case. But
the longer he plays, the more it's gonna be like
just like any other football game. But I could see
that being in the back of your mind. And particularly
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when he starts running board, you know he's to go down.
He's not trying to run over you. So I think
at that point it's almost out of the respect for
the game. I think that's true with the way we're
coaching the game with some of these guys, the quarterbacks,
and that they can give themselves up. And I think
that you're seeing it, not just with two, with a
lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
If the Chiefs play the Lions today for the Super Bowl,
who would you pick?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I think the Detroit Lions right now. I think they're
you know, I think them. I mean, listen, I think
the Chiefs of Baltimore. I don't dismiss the Baltimore Ravens,
and I look at them and the Lions to me
as the top two teams. I know the Chiefs are
right there, and the record says they are. But I
think if those three teams are in a league by themselves,
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to be honest with you, I think Buffalo is the
fourth team in that. But Detroit Lions right now, if
they played the Kansas City Chiefs, I just like the
Detroit Lions are. They're a very physical football team. I
think they got the best offensive line of foot ball.
I think they got a coach who exemplifies what they're
all about. I think Aaron Glenn has done a masterful job.
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And just god's a Darius Smith in the trade. I
think that this morning or last yesterday, whatever, I just
saw that. So they're they're going to get better and better.
And they're a team that just wears you down and
they impose themselves on you. But again, I don't know.
It's the fourth quarter and you got uh Patrick Mahomes
got the ball. I'll take the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
We you know, he's morphed into the Tom Brady category.
There's time on the clock. Tom has the ball. You know,
the question is how is he going to score a
touchdown or the game game winning field goal?
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And I think the thing that he does. I mean
he does it with his legs. He does what like
with the extending of plays, it's to play after the plays.
As I know Bill Belichick talked about that before, talking
about defending against him, and because there's the initial play,
but then if he doesn't like it, he extends it.
And he has that that sixth sense with Kelsey and
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everybody else, has a sense of what he to get
to open spaces and he can see. His vision to
the field is so unique to any other quarterback. His poise,
his calmness, knowing when to take off and run and
also when to throw it. And again you'll see him
take off more in the fourth quarter of games with
the games on the line as opposed to the first
three quarters. So his decision making feel for the game
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second to none.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Who is the quarterback that you'd have nightmares or you'd
wake up middle of the night if you were going
to face.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
The honest with you. Was Peyton Manning. I mean, because
I just it's like we had to work all week
on making sure that we did not show him the defense,
so we had disguise was everything, because if he saw
the defense before ten we used to see the ten
second role. We figured at ten seconds, at that point
you can probably get into it, maybe run nine or
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eight seconds. He didn't have time to change the play,
but if they snapped the ball early, we were running
the spots that we had to get to because we
were in a disguise no the entire time. So, I mean,
I think it led because we played them so many times.
It led to Troy Palmal who feeling like he could
do that against anybody. I said, no, no, no, justin Peyton Manning.
I said, we don't have to keep doing this to
everybody else. So disguise is a big thing. But Dan,
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I always as a defensive minded coach, I wanted to
show you one thing and do another, and I wanted
to create some indecision with you on the offensive side
of the ball where all of a sudden, it's not
what I thought it was going to be. Because the
pre snap information that you give to a quarterback, particularly
a good quarterback, they know where the weakness. Every defense
has a weakness, and if you give a good quarterback
that information before the ball snap, they'll go there every time.
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So he was a guy to me that like I
would pay. I mean, you can't show them anything. So
you're talking about you just prepared differently against Peyton Man
than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
But he knows that you're doing this, he knows you're disguising.
He knows what you're showing me is not what you're
going to run, which.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Is why times we did we did not. We showed
him exactly what I do. So I said, I said,
so you almost had to play that. You played that
minded like, no, you can't always disguise. Sometimes it was
like play it wes to call play it, which means
show it. Because everything else we did we had brain disguise, disguise,
play it, just play, show it and play it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That has to be frustrating here. You are defensive minded guy.
You're over there on the sidelines, you call something or
something's being called, and then you watch Peyton basically tell
you I know what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean, and I said, okay, we showed it
too quick. We did stay you know, It's almost like
I said, even if you're late getting there, just be
I'd rather you be late. And then like if len like, okay,
this give it up. I mean, if we had guys running,
every ball was snap, they had things going, people going places,
we had people going things. It looked like a there's
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a bunch of pieces moving like in that and it
was like a movie. It was like a moving piece
of art. I'm forty before your eyes.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I don't know if you were the coach.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think the Steelers had a defensive back or got
a defensive back.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And he knew one of Peyton's signals. He had played
with Peyton, and then he was telling everybody, Hey, when
he done does this, it means this. And then he
Peyton called that, and then Peyton did something different and
scored a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Right, I mean, and he'll do He used to call omaha, omaha,
and I used to think this he's not. He's when
he started calling a lot of different signals. It was
it was like whenever he's pointing to people and people
start pointing like okay, protect him, protect him, and going
they're going to run the football. They're not protecting anybody.
They're there. I go. When he starts pointing to people like,
oh yeah, this guy comes to that kind of I go,
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it's not even going to be a pass that like
this is the other you play the game on the
other side too. There's a lot of like little, you know,
little parts of the game. The arts of the craft
is to kind of try to mislead people with what
you're doing.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Project snap the Steelers, how are they looking?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
They look good. I'll tell you this is a big game.
I think when you think about them going against the
Washington Commanders, both these teams, ironically Washington with Philadelphia right
on their heels, Pittsburgh Baltimore right there, and they both
play the team that they're they're holding off next week.
So it's a very defining game. I think when you
look at who Washington has beaten, you look at Pittsburgh
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has beaten it. It'll be interesting to see them go
against each other. Jade and Daniels obviously, I think running
away with Rookie of the Year. I think Russell Wilson
phone into this offense right now and feel uncomfortable with
each week. We'll see what happens today. I know they're
looking to try to get another receiver to go with
George Pickens, but and the defense of the Pittsburgh Steels
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has been solid. TJ One I think is you know,
his numbers may not be up there, but he has
won more games in the fourth quarter with big plays.
I think he's still the defensive player of the year
when it's all gonna be all said and done. They're
solid in every face. I mean, they got the kickers,
I think, the best kicker in the game. But this
will be a very defining game, probably the toughest team
they faced all year.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, I'm wondering.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Having TJ is such a weapon, how do you use
him differently at the end of a game.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I think at the end of the game, you let
him get back to where he's comfortable. And I think
that's the biggest thing with him. I think he's one
of those guys you say, Okay, well they're gonna they're
going to put two people over there, let's drop him
in the coverage that we can get more people off
the other side. But you know what, what does he
do best. He's when you give him the freedom, have
a feel for the game and let him be able
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to do what he has to do. You know, he's
he was like Kevin and I never had the opportunity.
But it's like Trump Troy pol Wallow, like, you don't
want to harness a guy like that.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You don't want to say Kevin Green, that was the
other guy was.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Kevin Green and Greg Lloyd was that type of guy.
Greg Lloyd was a guy you moved around. You wanted
to get him to be where he was able to
rush the quarterback. That's what he did best. The ideally
you like to give him in a one on one situation,
and that was like, that was the thing we try
to do is move him around to get him a
one to one situation. You see TJ sometimes go to
the left side or to the right side, but he
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is a he's a left defensive end, and if he
uses up to guys, then you want to be able
to have the confidenty guy on the other side. They
got that high Smith right now. He's back playing. So
I just think of a guy like TJ. Don't try
to do too much, let him be himself, let him
get comfortable and and and get him the freedom to
really to make plays, and don't try to harness him.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
More likely to have another Lawrence Taylor or another Reggie white.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Well. Lawrence Taylor, I mean TJ is like a Lawrence Taylor.
I mean Lawrence Taylor. I had Derek Thomas in Kansas City,
and Derrek Thomas was one of those types of guys
and Reggie White though, to me, to be quite honest
with you, I think he's the greatest defensive player to
ever played the game. And I it's Reggie White. You
can line him up outside, you can line him up
over the centate and they they did that a lot.
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And Reggie White was one of those guys that you
just put him on the straightest path to the quarterback,
which is they put him inside because he's gonna run
over anybody that's in front of him. He'll get there
quicker than the guy from the outside. But I think
Reggie White to me is still like, to me, the
greatest defensive players ever played.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Again, Yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you. It's just
people tell stories. I got to see Lawrence Taylor and
Reggie White play in person. Yeah, I've never seen somebody
come off the edge like Lawrence Taylor, Like.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
No, he And you know, I used to sit there
and think Derrek Thomas and I and it's funny, Dann
I said. I said, Derek, if you could play the
run like Lawrence Taylor plays running like you're both are
great pass rushers, but Lawis played the run. Lawres was
he would he could go across a tight end his face.
He'd go into that backfield. He could take out two
blockers and still make the tackle. He played the run
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as passionately as he rushed the quarterback, and so he
was that type of guy that again another guy. If
he was supposed to drop, he would rush, and sometimes
with Derek I would. I would call defense and I say, Deck,
you're supposed to drop? He goes, Coach, why would I drop?
I can get to the quarterback before you can get
to go. But what if he throws in the flat?
And he goes, I'll get there before you get this
chance to throw it to the flat? I go, Okay, again,
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great players, giving them the freedom to let them express
themselves and make sure the other guys around them understand
that he's a special player and he's going to make
all of us better. What what do you? How are
we gonna know what he's gonna do? We no one
knows what he's gonna do. And if we don't know
what he's going to do, how's the offense gonna know
what he's going to do? This if you're ready to
cover up, but when he does something he probably shouldn't
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be doing.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Great to talk to you, coach, I'll look forward to
the babblehead all of yes on places strategically in front
of me, and I'll.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Come back next month and I'll make sure I find
out somewhere in that compartmentalized mess that you have, like
and I and I and I want to know the
reason behind why was place around his place?
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Absolutely, I'm on it. Okay, thank you, coach.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
All right, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Bill Cowen, Hall of Famer. We'll take a break. Phone
call coming up and do we have done or not done?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Don't it?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Teams that are done done, all done done, And I'm
back in all new segment.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I'm back in okay, and phone calls coming up after this.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
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Speaker 4 (34:25):
I enjoyed talking to Bill Kawer.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I'm good guy, and you're gonna send a bobb ahead
and I'll put it here on the desk, see if
he can find it. A couple of phone calls, Luke
and Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Hi, Luke, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I was happy you guys are aaron at your pet
thieves because mine has always been over time since Samarius
Thomas Rest in Peace, rips my little heart out, Well,
I was probably about eleven or twelve. But I just
if they're trying to fix it, I don't get why
they don't just do what college doesn't. I don't know
a soul on the planet that doesn't love call overtime.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Well, they don't want to have the extra plays for
the players. They don't want to put them at risk.
I think that's probably the big reason. And you know,
then do you factor in those stats in college? I
think they do count four touchdowns whether you catch, run,
or throw, and that's that shouldn't be. They shouldn't count those.
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I mean, you're starting it with the twenty five or
thirty yard line, but they do. But I think they
want to limit the amount of contact that you have
in the course of a game. And you don't want
to have overtime where you're going to have, you know,
fifteen or twenty minutes now to be a lot of action.
It'd be great for us. I'm just telling you from
the players Association perspective.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yes, Paul, there was a college game years ago with
the old overtime system. Eli Manning threw five touchdown passes
in the overtime against Arkansas when he's at all miss
just the overtime.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, Josh in North Carolina, Hi Josh, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Hey Josh? Hey John?
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Oh, Hey Dan, longtime first time caller five' eleven one
ninety seven calling in about the Detroit linebacker Branch. Branch
made the hard hit on the sideline gets a fifteen
yard penalty.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Everybody's getting ready to play.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
All of a sudden, they stop play, go over and
talk to the coach, and then he's disqualified from the game,
at which point he loses his mind. My question is,
can you actually get an unsportsmanlike conduct after you've been
disqualified from the game.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think you can, Like, if you're on the sidelines
and you do something, then you're gonna they can flag
you for that a team violation, I'm guessing. I mean,
I don't go too deep into the rule book, not
anymore the way I used to uh nate in Minneapolis.
I ate what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Hey, guys?
Speaker 10 (37:02):
So speaking of pet peas, and I don't know why
this bothers me so much, but hear me out players
today who put senior on the back of their jerseys
like great Devin kid now, but unless the boy makes
the league too, nobody's really that interested. And even then,
I don't remember Antoine Winfield senior with that on the
back of his Viking series.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Thank you, Nate.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Should you have a senior on there if you're the
only one putting a lot of pressure on your kids, right.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Marvin, that's why there's no Marvin Prince Jr.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah, Steven Pennsylvania. Hi Steve, a.
Speaker 11 (37:42):
First time long time five to nine and a dad
bod riddled two twenty five.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (37:49):
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Fritzy.
As much as I loathe Tat, I would like to
see a little more content when the Chiefs screw up.
I'd like to see Horie as well.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Okay, well, that's a guy from Pennsylvania, which is where
Taylor Swift is from.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Todd wants to see the anguish on her face when
Travis Kelsey fumbles.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
It's only fantasy both sides yay touchdown and oh we fumble?
Now what are we gonna do?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Krit I just I hate seeing her happy so much.
I'd really like to see her unhappy a little more
that is essentially what we're saying. You are rooting for
her unhappiness.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
I'm actually a big Tailor Swift fan. What I'm saying is,
if we're showing all fans reaction, good band, indifferent, we
treat her like all the other humans, regardless of how Yeah,
we're all human beings. We all get excited, we all
get said, we all get angry.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yes, Paul, I thought about this, believe it or not,
for the past hour. I think Fritzy's wrong because if
Travis Kelsey fumbled, let's say, at the goal line, and
it was a real serious play, that's a that's when
you show the coaching staff or Kelsey himself or Mahomes
because that's a real serious thing. If there's a touchdown,
there's no more story to it, and you can show
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her because it's just a celebration.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well, they have a camera fixed on that suite that
she's in. You can show if there's a fumble, Travis
Kelseer's reaction, Andy Reid's reaction, You're going to have time
to show Taylor Swift's reaction. So you would have time
to show it if you truly want it. But you
know that's up to the eye of the director and producer.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yes, time the buck.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
Took a lead, I believe on like three different occasions
when they were losing, and then Tampa went ahead just
for a couple of quick seconds, you know, just to
see how she's reacting to that. It's great to see
the high five from the celebration, but could show both
It's not a terrible thing. No one will hey Taylor
Swift any less if.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
They show no, no, no, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
Why don't they do that? Why do you have to
be just rejoicing in nothing negative.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's not like if something bad happens to you that
I instruct the big german to focus on you with
the camera. Okay, I mean I try to focus on
you when you're happy and you're having a good day,
which is very nice.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Yeah, but sports is filled with the motion on both sides.
It's just did he wasn't even sure if he should
have shown up.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
That's not that's not necessary. You don't have to put
up with it. That was I and I had nothing
to do with That.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Has to do with the subject matter what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Look, my hands are up here. I didn't touch any buttons.
That's Marvin who did that.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
He wasn't even sure if he should have shown up.
That's a little slap in the face.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
This is about Todd.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Oh darn, Tampa just went up seven three. I didn't
get any of that yesterday. You didn't get a three
second shot.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Quickly show Taylor Hatch then bucks Oh.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Taylor's upset final hour on the way, Mike Florio, Will
Jonas get his thoughts on the move the Lions made
earlier this morning and any other possible moves that will
be made. Jerry Jones says Dak Prescott likely to be
put on the injured reserve list with a hamstring injury,
out for a minimum four games.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Eds Dan Patrick Show.
Adam Schefter reporting that Jerry Jones, the Cowboys owner, says
Dak Prescott likely to be placed on the injured reserve
list due to that hamstring injury, which means he would
be sidelined at least four games a minimum of four games.
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Our one, we talked about the Detroit Lions, they picked
up a defensive lineman and the trade deadline. Later on today, Paully,
would you recap the deal that the Lions struck with
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Zadarius Smith, the veteran pass rusher for the Browns, going
to the Lions for a fifth and sixth draft pick
in then upcoming draft.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, we didn't know if Max Crosby would be available,
Miles Garrett available, but you got to get somebody because
you don't have a pass rush. But the trade deadline
is here. Teams have until for Eastern to make any
last second deals, and teams have been uncharacteristically aggressive. Receivers
like Amari Cooper, DeVante Adams, DeAndre Hopkins, Deontay Johnson all
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been moved in twenty twenty four. But you can go
back the league history shows that there have been great trades.
Mike Haynes joined Lester Hayes, giving the Raiders one of
the greatest secondaries of all time. That was nineteen eighty three.
Von Miller traded to the Rams twenty twenty one right
before the deadline, helped the Rams win the Super Bowl
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twenty ten. The Bills sent a disgruntled Marshawn Lynch to
the Seahawks middle of the season, went on to power
them to a Super Bowl a couple of years later. See,
you never know if you can get that opportunity. Who's buying,
who's selling, But we'll keep an eye on that. Mike
Florio will join us a little bit later on. He's
keeping track with Pro Football Talk. We'll talk to Bill Kauer,
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former Steeler head coach Hall of Famer, will join us,
coming up in about twenty minutes from now. I mentioned
this last hour that there was some kind of speculation.
I don't know if anybody was on record saying this,
that it appeared as if the Buffalo Bills were aware
of to a tongue Ilois conditioned that maybe they were
easing up on him. I don't know if they have
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any plays that have been isolated there. I don't know
if anybody from Buffalo has confirmed that or not. But
that was interesting because I think PAULI may have brought
this up. Could you see a scenario where these players
ease up on to a tongua Ilo? And I thought,
I don't know how you can think that way because
it's so quick, it's split second reaction time. I'm going
(02:37):
to try to protect him. But we'll talk to Bill
Kauer about that possibility. Also, Bill Cower is all in
on the Chargers. He'll join his coming up. Stat of
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Speaker 4 (03:17):
Here day, all right.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
We asked in our one if the Chiefs were good
or great? Okay, it's pretty close. The results right now,
sixty one percent have them as good.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I don't know if I'm making more out of this,
but I was surprised at this. DJ Moore is the
wide receiver for the Bears. There is a moment in
the loss this past weekend against Arizona where he just
walks off to the sidelines. I don't know if he
was injured. I don't know if they've given any explanation,
but the play is still going on. He just walks
over to the sideline. Well, he was on sixty seventy
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the score and the wide receive. Was asked if Matt
Eberflus has lost the locker room, and he says, I
want to say no.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That's not no. He's saying he wants to say no. Now.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The audio is not very good because I want to
be fair to the situation. You know, does he say
that I want to say no? What was the other interpretation, Pauline.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I like, you know, we weren't sure because audio is
really tough. I sent a note over to the score
and this is what they posted that DJ Moore said,
I want to say no to the answer from the
question from the morning show guys.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, so not exactly the ringing endorsement of Matt Eberflus.
This has been a mess. So the Bears lose to Arizona.
Eber Flus was questioned for leaving Caleb Williams in the game.
You had the Tyreek Stevenson disciplinary action when he said
he wasn't going to do this, and then you have
(04:57):
this where you got DJ Moore saying that he wants
to say no, that eber Flus hasn't lost the locker room,
and then he goes on to say the message yesterday
was that we know we're four and four. Now it's
like being zero and zero, oh and oh, but you
have to go out there and start stacking wins like
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we did. That's the best thing you can do, and
then let the chips fall how they fall after we do.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
So.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't know if it's a thing or not. It
feels like it is a little bit. It's obviously going
to be exacerbated amplified in Chicago because everything has been
this season. What's at stake, got a chance to make
the playoffs. Everybody else in the division is getting better,
but you're not everybody else is entertaining playoff aspirations.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Caleb Williams hasn't been great. Jaden Daniels has been even
Drake may has had moments.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Bo Nicks, but you're four and four. Four and four
not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But we wondered if the ending to the Commander's game
there would be a fallout, almost a hangover, and there
was you go to Arizona and you don't look threatening
at all, then you lose by twenty I don't know
if they do anything at the trade deadline, but this
feels like this is once it permeates the locker room. Man,
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it's tough to get out. You just can't bring Lisol
in there, and all of a sudden it's like, hey,
we're good. That ah false alarm. We love them, you
know you hear. Sometimes players are all in, but they
don't play all in.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Like the Raiders. Man, we're all in on Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Everybody went to management, Davante Adams, Max Crosby, we want
him here, and then all of a sudden, you don't
play like you really want him here. Also, this came
up yesterday that could you see a scenario where Bill
Belichick would come back and coach and coach the Raiders
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with Tom Brady as a minority owner. And I'm thinking,
I don't see that happening. Now Bill has hit this
fountain of youth with his girlfriend, and maybe you want
to just go out there and you want to live
the lifestyle and you want to be in Vegas, baby.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But that would be interesting if Tom Brady was sort
of Bill Belichick's boss in this situation. I I do
see this scenario. I have no information whatsoever. What if
the Raiders had the number one pick and I'm Mark Davis,
what I say to Dion Sanders, I'm gonna take We're
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gonna take Shador, and we want you to be our
head coach. I don't think it's crazy. And if you're
the Raiders, what's the downside? You got to get your
quarterback and you can love Antonio Pierce, but if you
get Dion Son in Vegas, now we've become relevant. They're
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not relevant even with Tom Brady as a minority owner. Now,
you know Brady, See, I wonder they fired the entire
offensive staff with the Raiders loss. Tom Brady's doing the game.
Isn't he did Tom know what was going on? Is
it part time owner or minority owner.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Because which would you'd be He would be mad if
he didn't.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Was not giving a heads up.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't know if he's doing double duties where he's
doing the game, but he's also being informed by the
way we're going to release the entire offensive staff here.
It's problematic with Tom trying to do both of these things,
and it's not something you normally focus on because we
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do trust that the analysts they go to practice, they
get a lot of inside information. Some coaches more forthcoming,
some quarterbacks more forthcoming. But you need to have your
announcer know what's going on. He's not allowed to go
into these meetings, now, can he get that information? Yes,
But if you said Tom Brady got to go in
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the locker room and say to Patrick Mahomes, hey, I'm
curious about this, chances are mahome is going to tell
Tom that. But he's not allowed to exchange information or
get information because he works for the Raiders. Crazy problematic.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yes, boy Luria will probably have more on this. But
Brady also was asked about if people were asking about
he critiqued an official who kicks someone out of a game,
So he was critiquing the decision of the official. Part
of his deal as being an owner, he's not allowed
to public or critique officials.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well he's They've got Tom Brady rules and that's unfortunate here.
They allowed him to be a minority owner and then
he's also the lead broadcaster for Fox, you know, And
that's why I say he's not going to be doing
ten years of broadcasting. It's just not I mean, okay,
(10:04):
you get your fix. They're paying you a lot of money.
He's probably got other things he's going to do. But
you would hope he would be able to do his
job like everybody else in that position does their job.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But he can't.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And I do think that that would make him better
at his job, because there are times when Tom relies
on cliches. When you get information, when you have something pertinent,
that's what you want. I want Tom telling me something
that I don't know. And you know, he's going to
be graded at the end of the year. I'm you know,
(10:35):
maybe Jim Gray, his buddy, will do it, do that,
or somebody at Fox would sit down and say, hey,
here's the deal or going into the super Bowl. Here's
the deal. These are things that are really good. Tom
is a rookie and needs to know what is good TV.
He's never, you know, probably been asked that question, Tom,
do you know what good TV is? And the answer
(10:56):
is he does not because their job, their good TV
was how they play, not what they say. Now it's
what you say, and that's where Tom's going to be
able to do his job. And you can't have distractions.
It's tough enough. Everybody's watching, everybody's grading, everybody's critical.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Everybody loves Greg.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Olsen, and that I think is going to be problematic
for Tom. The learning curve. He doesn't get the benefit
of the doubt. He should, but he doesn't mean he's
the greatest quarterback, greatest player of all time, the most decorated.
You're getting paid all this money, you have to be great.
And we're still waiting for him to be able to
(11:39):
relax and do a game instead of trying to be
a broadcaster doing a game. And that's why I look
forward to that. But I think being around these players
talking to these coaches, Hey, you know what, this is
what I heard. Hey, Coach Reid told me this. You
know what I noticed about the Chiefs. This is what
they do on third and long. Now you got my attention.
(12:03):
That's where I always wanted to have. It would have
been the Peyton Manning cam where the team comes on
the field and you have the camera that follows you know,
the action on the field, gets right behind the quarterback.
And that's what I want, you know, I'd love to
have them do that with Tom. But I thought if
Peyton Manning was an analyst, that's what I would want.
(12:25):
Peyton's taking me to the line of scrimmage. Now I'm
in the game. Now it's real time. He's saying something
to me, and then he would be like, you see this,
there's the mic linebacker there. You know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna I'm gonna look the other way. I'm gonna
I'm gonna use my eyes to get rid of him,
and I'm going down the left side of the field.
Like That's what I would want, because there's only a
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few guys who can give you that they can conceptualize,
and that's what Tom could do, and that's what they
should do with him. I want more of that, not
just giving me kind of cliche, you know, answers with
things so long winded way of saying, Tom, you know,
what kind of impact is he going to have with
the Raiders? And would they entertain? You know, Dion insure door.
(13:12):
Could you imagine the AFC West, Andy Reid, Sean Payton,
Jim Harball, Dean Sanders. Wow, that would be That'd be
pretty entertaining there. All right, we'll talk to Bill Cower,
he'll join us. Do we have the poll question for
hour two?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Seaton? Right now?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
We're sticking with the pole question from our one?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Oh, has to do with the chiefs? Yeah? Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Did we forget about putting a new pole question on
for hour two? See what came to us? You know,
I'm sure Todd has one.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Actually Todd sent a whole bunch of them, and I
don't really want to use them. There's just too much, like, uh,
too many of Todd's private thoughts come through in his
pole questions. And I'm just not in the mood today.
My pet peeve for today is Todd's okay, genitalia?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
What whoa?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Sorry, can I not say that?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Left turn?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah? Is it really a left turn?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I didn't see that phrase?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Coming, Todd, what is the poll question that you know
we should at least be aware of.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
I was being a little fun with one of the four,
but I have to be invited to say that.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Okay, why don't you say it? Why don't you say it?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think I heard you run this by the back
room guys earlier. This Todd runs his lines, so nobody
out here listens to him.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Well, Dylan does the stand up comedy thing, so I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So Todd goes in back with the big german everybody
in the back, Mario, and then he does these one
liners and then he kind of gauges the audience there.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
So yeah, the questionable one of the four is what's
your excitement level? On this day? I'm feeling kind of soft,
if you must know, I have an election.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right, So that's that's like a little, uh, you know,
kind of a double entendree there.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
I can't imagine that.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
No, that's good.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
No, But there's really no reason to, uh make the
poll question about your genitalia.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
That's all it's about. Everybody's what's your excitement level? That's
what's my excitement level?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Well, what's about?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Really?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Then it would really be about men's genitalia, their excitement level.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
That is true. There will be women voters involved.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
They're allowed to do that, believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Currently this might be the last election, but they are
allowed currently to vote right now?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yes? Yes, wasn't that Susan b. Anthony? Wasn't she the
one that?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Sue?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, Remember Sue b Anthony, She's the first to vote.
Wasn't allowed to she was voting? All right, get out
and vote. By the way, Let's take a break. Bill
Cower will join us coming up next back after this.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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Bill Kauer back with us. Who do you get mistaken
for on the street?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
For myself, Actually, people don't believe it's me half the time.
So it's like, so, but I have to ask you
a question, though. If I send you a bobblehead, do
I make your artifacts that you have around you, so
sure why I make the what I so? I wasn't
just sure because you have almost like you had this categorized.
It looks like a categorized mess. Yes, and I used
to It's kind of like that's why my desk used
(16:43):
to be as well, like when I was coaching.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, but how can you have a messy desk if
you're the coach, You're supposed to be buttoned up.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
It looked messy, but it is actually categorized. I knew
exactly that there were some things that I were prioritized
more than anything else, but I had to continue to
look at it because that always reminded me that there
were still things to do.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I know where everything is now. Nobody else knows
where everything is, but I do.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, you would know if something was out of Yes.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yes, they mess with me.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Sometimes they'll move things just to see if I'm aware,
and I'm aware.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'm aware.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
So I'm gonna send you a bibblehead. And the first
thing I want to do is find out somewhere in
that categorized mess that you have. I know that I've
been placed there, and there's a reason I was placed
where I was placed, all right, So.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I will do it, but you might have to find
it like.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I, I and I and I and I will recognize
it only when I recognize it. After I come on,
I will say, and I will then ask you, of
course of answering the question that you may have wish,
we will do it shortly. I will then ask you
the reason why I was placed there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Okay, but you don't get mistaken for anybody, like any famous,
famous person actor, no.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I you know it's funny, though, Dan, funny because I
I came to New York and I walked down the
street and I would walk in and someone they would
stop me and they'd say, hey, well aren't you and
they would just I know, I know you do I know.
I go, yeah, I go, I said, uh football, I go, no, no, no, oh,
you're that Time Warner cable guy. I go, So I
(18:14):
was a Time Warner cable guy for a couple of years.
I go football. I go, no, no, no, no, football, you're
that Time Warner cable guy. Well, yeah I am, I was.
But the reason I'm the Time Warned cable guy because
of football. Okay, So, so I was mistaken for that
Time Warner cable guy.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I love that uh where, what's your philosophy on the
Buccaneers at the end of the game going for to
on the road?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
No, you know what, I go back And so funny
because you know, I thought about this last night and
think about again this morning. As Marty Schottenheimer, who was
my mentor, he always said to me when he comes
down to make a decision, don't think of place, think
of players. And so I'm okay with what when what
took place? I mean, I think from Todd's standpoint of
watching it down through the years, and you talk about
(19:01):
Gopher two, but you know the two point play. Keep
in mind the success rate this year is like thirty
one percent, So it doesn't really make sense to do that. Now.
I understand Patrick Mahomes be on the other side, would
make you think, do you want to give him a
chance in overtime if you don't get the coin flip?
And so those things come up, and we saw Mahomes
(19:21):
do it against the forty nine ers in Super Bowl.
We saw them again do it last night. But at
the same time, you also have to believe in your
own football team and give them a chance. Again, let
the players dictate it, not in your decisions.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So if you had your wide receivers, you know who
you're missing, Evans and Godwin, would you have been more
likely to then go for the two point conversion.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
No, because I think he believed in his defense as well.
I think I think number one, let's let this thing
get in overtime. And again, if I had those receivers,
now we're coming down to a coin flip, and I
think the biggest thing I would just say, you know,
I think you want to revisit again. I know that
you let him score a touchdown, Just that having both
teams have a chance to touch the ball in overtime
to be and I know that what we have is fair.
(20:07):
You got to play defense too, But man, if you
have two offensive football teams that are built and when
you want to see him, both touch the ball, even
if the first one is a touchdown. So that's the
only thing I've just saying about.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That, I can't. I can't let Mahomes have the ball.
I got a chance. I got to kill him. I do,
I know, I hear you. I just you're at the two.
You may not get back down there, and I know
that he's going to get back down there. I got
to kill him, can't can't do it. But doesn't it
feel I don't know if this feels the same way
with you Bill. They feel almost under dogish, like everybody's
(20:42):
caught up in the Lions. They're scoring points like the Chiefs.
It's like, man, they're barely getting by. They don't know,
and they're undefeated.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
They're comfortable in close games. I mean, I think you
look at them and think about the people they're doing
this with. Travis Kelcey, we all said he was getting
too old, he's too slow, he's too worried about going
into Taylor Swifts concerts. He had ten catches last night.
Cream Hunt was on the street. Nobody wanted him as
a running back. Uh course Cleveland last year. You think
they wouldn't want him back in cream He's been there
(21:12):
before DeAndre Hopkins. Why they give up for him like
a fifth or sixth round pick. These guys were only
integral parts of that and they come in and they
just keep plugging it in and they're going to get
some guys back. But Checko's going to come back at
some point in this season, and he does a masterful job.
Stea speG Nola I think is one of the best
defensive coordinators in the league. But they have a quarterback
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that is very comfortable in close games, very comfortable in
the fourth quarter, and you know, and they just continue
to do it. Weekend we got and they're playing they're
playing on the edge. But because they're playing on the edge,
they keep that edginess weekend and week out. They don't
get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We're talking to Bill Cower, the Hall of Famer, Sergeant Slaughter,
the rest of Ah.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I did get that. I used to. Yeah,
he's right, Sergeant Slaughter.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I knew it was going to come to me.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Right right, Yes, yes, yes, they actually I think Sergeant Slaughter.
I mean I think God bless him, and I said
sergeant Slaughter, but I think they actually said, aren't you
Bill Kawers. So I think we both bought it. So uh.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it was Dominic Foxworth on ESPN who said
it felt like the Bills were easing up on Tua
and I don't know if you can you know, and
Dominic's former defensive back. I don't know if you can
go into a game thinking about how you're going to
hit to a tongue of via looa did does that
seem viable real.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I mean, no, I mean, but I think it's there.
I mean, I think we all have a great respect
for Tua with what he's done. I think when the
heat of battle comes and you you get down to it,
I think early on maybe that be the case. But
the longer he plays, the more it's gonna be like
just like any other football game. But I could see
that being in the back of your mind. And particularly
(22:58):
when he starts running board, you know he's to go down.
He's not trying to run over you. So I think
at that point it's almost out of the respect for
the game. I think that's true with the way we're
coaching the game with some of these guys, the quarterbacks,
and that they can give themselves up. And I think
that you're seeing it, not just with two, with a
lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
If the Chiefs play the Lions today for the Super Bowl,
who would you pick?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I think the Detroit Lions right now. I think they're
you know, I think them. I mean, listen, I think
the Chiefs of Baltimore. I don't dismiss the Baltimore Ravens,
and I look at them and the Lions to me
as the top two teams. I know the Chiefs are
right there, and the record says they are. But I
think if those three teams are in a league by themselves,
(23:45):
to be honest with you, I think Buffalo is the
fourth team in that. But Detroit Lions right now, if
they played the Kansas City Chiefs, I just like the
Detroit Lions are. They're a very physical football team. I
think they got the best offensive line of foot ball.
I think they got a coach who exemplifies what they're
all about. I think Aaron Glenn has done a masterful job.
(24:06):
And just god's a Darius Smith in the trade. I
think that this morning or last yesterday, whatever, I just
saw that. So they're they're going to get better and better.
And they're a team that just wears you down and
they impose themselves on you. But again, I don't know.
It's the fourth quarter and you got uh Patrick Mahomes
got the ball. I'll take the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
We you know, he's morphed into the Tom Brady category.
There's time on the clock. Tom has the ball. You know,
the question is how is he going to score a
touchdown or the game game winning field goal?
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And I think the thing that he does. I mean
he does it with his legs. He does what like
with the extending of plays, it's to play after the plays.
As I know Bill Belichick talked about that before, talking
about defending against him, and because there's the initial play,
but then if he doesn't like it, he extends it.
And he has that that sixth sense with Kelsey and
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everybody else, has a sense of what he to get
to open spaces and he can see. His vision to
the field is so unique to any other quarterback. His poise,
his calmness, knowing when to take off and run and
also when to throw it. And again you'll see him
take off more in the fourth quarter of games with
the games on the line as opposed to the first
three quarters. So his decision making feel for the game
(25:24):
second to none.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Who is the quarterback that you'd have nightmares or you'd
wake up middle of the night if you were going
to face.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
The honest with you. Was Peyton Manning. I mean, because
I just it's like we had to work all week
on making sure that we did not show him the defense,
so we had disguise was everything, because if he saw
the defense before ten we used to see the ten
second role. We figured at ten seconds, at that point
you can probably get into it, maybe run nine or
(25:57):
eight seconds. He didn't have time to change the play,
but if they snapped the ball early, we were running
the spots that we had to get to because we
were in a disguise no the entire time. So, I mean,
I think it led because we played them so many times.
It led to Troy Palmal who feeling like he could
do that against anybody. I said, no, no, no, justin Peyton Manning.
I said, we don't have to keep doing this to
everybody else. So disguise is a big thing. But Dan,
(26:19):
I always as a defensive minded coach, I wanted to
show you one thing and do another, and I wanted
to create some indecision with you on the offensive side
of the ball where all of a sudden, it's not
what I thought it was going to be. Because the
pre snap information that you give to a quarterback, particularly
a good quarterback, they know where the weakness. Every defense
has a weakness, and if you give a good quarterback
that information before the ball snap, they'll go there every time.
(26:42):
So he was a guy to me that like I
would pay. I mean, you can't show them anything. So
you're talking about you just prepared differently against Peyton Man
than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
But he knows that you're doing this, he knows you're disguising.
He knows what you're showing me is not what you're
going to run, which.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Is why times we did we did not. We showed
him exactly what I do. So I said, I said,
so you almost had to play that. You played that
minded like, no, you can't always disguise. Sometimes it was
like play it wes to call play it, which means
show it. Because everything else we did we had brain disguise, disguise,
play it, just play, show it and play it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
That has to be frustrating here. You are defensive minded guy.
You're over there on the sidelines, you call something or
something's being called, and then you watch Peyton basically tell
you I know what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean, and I said, okay, we showed it
too quick. We did stay you know, It's almost like
I said, even if you're late getting there, just be
I'd rather you be late. And then like if len like, okay,
this give it up. I mean, if we had guys running,
every ball was snap, they had things going, people going places,
we had people going things. It looked like a there's
(27:53):
a bunch of pieces moving like in that and it
was like a movie. It was like a moving piece
of art. I'm forty before your eyes.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I don't know if you were the coach.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think the Steelers had a defensive back or got
a defensive back.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And he knew one of Peyton's signals. He had played
with Peyton, and then he was telling everybody, Hey, when
he done does this, it means this. And then he
Peyton called that, and then Peyton did something different and
scored a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Right, I mean, and he'll do He used to call omaha, omaha,
and I used to think this he's not. He's when
he started calling a lot of different signals. It was
it was like whenever he's pointing to people and people
start pointing like okay, protect him, protect him, and going
they're going to run the football. They're not protecting anybody.
They're there. I go. When he starts pointing to people like,
oh yeah, this guy comes to that kind of I go,
(28:43):
it's not even going to be a pass that like
this is the other you play the game on the
other side too. There's a lot of like little, you know,
little parts of the game. The arts of the craft
is to kind of try to mislead people with what
you're doing.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Project snap the Steelers, how are they looking?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
They look good. I'll tell you this is a big game.
I think when you think about them going against the
Washington Commanders, both these teams, ironically Washington with Philadelphia right
on their heels, Pittsburgh Baltimore right there, and they both
play the team that they're they're holding off next week.
So it's a very defining game. I think when you
look at who Washington has beaten, you look at Pittsburgh
(29:23):
has beaten it. It'll be interesting to see them go
against each other. Jade and Daniels obviously, I think running
away with Rookie of the Year. I think Russell Wilson
phone into this offense right now and feel uncomfortable with
each week. We'll see what happens today. I know they're
looking to try to get another receiver to go with
George Pickens, but and the defense of the Pittsburgh Steels
(29:44):
has been solid. TJ One I think is you know,
his numbers may not be up there, but he has
won more games in the fourth quarter with big plays.
I think he's still the defensive player of the year
when it's all gonna be all said and done. They're
solid in every face. I mean, they got the kickers,
I think, the best kicker in the game. But this
will be a very defining game, probably the toughest team
they faced all year.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, I'm wondering.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Having TJ is such a weapon, how do you use
him differently at the end of a game.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I think at the end of the game, you let
him get back to where he's comfortable. And I think
that's the biggest thing with him. I think he's one
of those guys you say, Okay, well they're gonna they're
going to put two people over there, let's drop him
in the coverage that we can get more people off
the other side. But you know what, what does he
do best. He's when you give him the freedom, have
a feel for the game and let him be able
(30:36):
to do what he has to do. You know, he's
he was like Kevin and I never had the opportunity.
But it's like Trump Troy pol Wallow, like, you don't
want to harness a guy like that.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You don't want to say Kevin Green, that was the
other guy was.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Kevin Green and Greg Lloyd was that type of guy.
Greg Lloyd was a guy you moved around. You wanted
to get him to be where he was able to
rush the quarterback. That's what he did best. The ideally
you like to give him in a one on one situation,
and that was like, that was the thing we try
to do is move him around to get him a
one to one situation. You see TJ sometimes go to
the left side or to the right side, but he
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is a he's a left defensive end, and if he
uses up to guys, then you want to be able
to have the confidenty guy on the other side. They
got that high Smith right now. He's back playing. So
I just think of a guy like TJ. Don't try
to do too much, let him be himself, let him
get comfortable and and and get him the freedom to
really to make plays, and don't try to harness him.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
More likely to have another Lawrence Taylor or another Reggie white.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Well. Lawrence Taylor, I mean TJ is like a Lawrence Taylor.
I mean Lawrence Taylor. I had Derek Thomas in Kansas City,
and Derrek Thomas was one of those types of guys
and Reggie White though, to me, to be quite honest
with you, I think he's the greatest defensive player to
ever played the game. And I it's Reggie White. You
can line him up outside, you can line him up
over the centate and they they did that a lot.
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And Reggie White was one of those guys that you
just put him on the straightest path to the quarterback,
which is they put him inside because he's gonna run
over anybody that's in front of him. He'll get there
quicker than the guy from the outside. But I think
Reggie White to me is still like, to me, the
greatest defensive players ever played.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Again, Yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you. It's just
people tell stories. I got to see Lawrence Taylor and
Reggie White play in person. Yeah, I've never seen somebody
come off the edge like Lawrence Taylor, Like.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
No, he And you know, I used to sit there
and think Derrek Thomas and I and it's funny, Dann
I said. I said, Derek, if you could play the
run like Lawrence Taylor plays running like you're both are
great pass rushers, but Lawis played the run. Lawres was
he would he could go across a tight end his face.
He'd go into that backfield. He could take out two
blockers and still make the tackle. He played the run
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as passionately as he rushed the quarterback, and so he
was that type of guy that again another guy. If
he was supposed to drop, he would rush, and sometimes
with Derek I would. I would call defense and I say, Deck,
you're supposed to drop? He goes, Coach, why would I drop?
I can get to the quarterback before you can get
to go. But what if he throws in the flat?
And he goes, I'll get there before you get this
chance to throw it to the flat? I go, Okay, again,
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great players, giving them the freedom to let them express
themselves and make sure the other guys around them understand
that he's a special player and he's going to make
all of us better. What what do you? How are
we gonna know what he's gonna do? We no one
knows what he's gonna do. And if we don't know
what he's going to do, how's the offense gonna know
what he's going to do? This if you're ready to
cover up, but when he does something he probably shouldn't
(33:33):
be doing.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Great to talk to you, coach, I'll look forward to
the babblehead all of yes on places strategically in front
of me, and I'll.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Come back next month and I'll make sure I find
out somewhere in that compartmentalized mess that you have, like
and I and I and I want to know the
reason behind why was place around his place?
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Absolutely, I'm on it. Okay, thank you, coach.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
All right, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Bill Cowen, Hall of Famer. We'll take a break. Phone
call coming up and do we have done or not done?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Don't it?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Teams that are done done, all done done, And I'm
back in all new segment.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I'm back in okay, and phone calls coming up after this.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I enjoyed talking to Bill Kawer.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I'm good guy, and you're gonna send a bobb ahead
and I'll put it here on the desk, see if
he can find it. A couple of phone calls, Luke
and Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Hi, Luke, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I was happy you guys are aaron at your pet
thieves because mine has always been over time since Samarius
Thomas Rest in Peace, rips my little heart out, Well,
I was probably about eleven or twelve. But I just
if they're trying to fix it, I don't get why
they don't just do what college doesn't. I don't know
a soul on the planet that doesn't love call overtime.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Well, they don't want to have the extra plays for
the players. They don't want to put them at risk.
I think that's probably the big reason. And you know,
then do you factor in those stats in college? I
think they do count four touchdowns whether you catch, run,
or throw, and that's that shouldn't be. They shouldn't count those.
(35:23):
I mean, you're starting it with the twenty five or
thirty yard line, but they do. But I think they
want to limit the amount of contact that you have
in the course of a game. And you don't want
to have overtime where you're going to have, you know,
fifteen or twenty minutes now to be a lot of action.
It'd be great for us. I'm just telling you from
the players Association perspective.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yes, Paul, there was a college game years ago with
the old overtime system. Eli Manning threw five touchdown passes
in the overtime against Arkansas when he's at all miss
just the overtime.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, Josh in North Carolina, Hi Josh, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Hey Josh? Hey John?
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Oh, Hey Dan, longtime first time caller five' eleven one
ninety seven calling in about the Detroit linebacker Branch. Branch
made the hard hit on the sideline gets a fifteen
yard penalty.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Everybody's getting ready to play.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
All of a sudden, they stop play, go over and
talk to the coach, and then he's disqualified from the game,
at which point he loses his mind. My question is,
can you actually get an unsportsmanlike conduct after you've been
disqualified from the game.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think you can, Like, if you're on the sidelines
and you do something, then you're gonna they can flag
you for that a team violation, I'm guessing. I mean,
I don't go too deep into the rule book, not
anymore the way I used to uh nate in Minneapolis.
I ate what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Hey, guys?
Speaker 10 (37:02):
So speaking of pet peas, and I don't know why
this bothers me so much, but hear me out players
today who put senior on the back of their jerseys
like great Devin kid now, but unless the boy makes
the league too, nobody's really that interested. And even then,
I don't remember Antoine Winfield senior with that on the
back of his Viking series.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Thank you, Nate.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Should you have a senior on there if you're the
only one putting a lot of pressure on your kids, right.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Marvin, that's why there's no Marvin Prince Jr.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah, Steven Pennsylvania. Hi Steve, a.
Speaker 11 (37:42):
First time long time five to nine and a dad
bod riddled two twenty five.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (37:49):
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Fritzy.
As much as I loathe Tat, I would like to
see a little more content when the Chiefs screw up.
I'd like to see Horie as well.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Okay, well, that's a guy from Pennsylvania, which is where
Taylor Swift is from.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Todd wants to see the anguish on her face when
Travis Kelsey fumbles.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
It's only fantasy both sides yay touchdown and oh we fumble?
Now what are we gonna do?
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Krit I just I hate seeing her happy so much.
I'd really like to see her unhappy a little more
that is essentially what we're saying. You are rooting for
her unhappiness.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
I'm actually a big Tailor Swift fan. What I'm saying is,
if we're showing all fans reaction, good band, indifferent, we
treat her like all the other humans, regardless of how Yeah,
we're all human beings. We all get excited, we all
get said, we all get angry.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yes, Paul, I thought about this, believe it or not,
for the past hour. I think Fritzy's wrong because if
Travis Kelsey fumbled, let's say, at the goal line, and
it was a real serious play, that's a that's when
you show the coaching staff or Kelsey himself or Mahomes
because that's a real serious thing. If there's a touchdown,
there's no more story to it, and you can show
(39:02):
her because it's just a celebration.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well, they have a camera fixed on that suite that
she's in. You can show if there's a fumble, Travis
Kelseer's reaction, Andy Reid's reaction, You're going to have time
to show Taylor Swift's reaction. So you would have time
to show it if you truly want it. But you
know that's up to the eye of the director and producer.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yes, time the buck.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
Took a lead, I believe on like three different occasions
when they were losing, and then Tampa went ahead just
for a couple of quick seconds, you know, just to
see how she's reacting to that. It's great to see
the high five from the celebration, but could show both
It's not a terrible thing. No one will hey Taylor
Swift any less if.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
They show no, no, no, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
Why don't they do that? Why do you have to
be just rejoicing in nothing negative.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's not like if something bad happens to you that
I instruct the big german to focus on you with
the camera. Okay, I mean I try to focus on
you when you're happy and you're having a good day,
which is very nice.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Yeah, but sports is filled with the motion on both sides.
It's just did he wasn't even sure if he should
have shown up.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
That's not that's not necessary. You don't have to put
up with it. That was I and I had nothing
to do with That.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Has to do with the subject matter what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Look, my hands are up here. I didn't touch any buttons.
That's Marvin who did that.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
He wasn't even sure if he should have shown up.
That's a little slap in the face.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
This is about Todd.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Oh darn, Tampa just went up seven three. I didn't
get any of that yesterday. You didn't get a three
second shot.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Quickly show Taylor Hatch then bucks Oh.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Taylor's upset final hour on the way, Mike Florio, Will
Jonas get his thoughts on the move the Lions made
earlier this morning and any other possible moves that will
be made. Jerry Jones says Dak Prescott likely to be
put on the injured reserve list with a hamstring injury,
out for a minimum four games.
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Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
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