November 6, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan provides his midseason NFL MVP picks and you might be surprised who he has at the top of his list. Plus, Dan recaps the strongest moves after yesterday’s the NFL trade deadline and talks to Tom Pelissero about it.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Every day is the Super Bowl? How's morale?
Let's go our one. This Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Net's Dan Patrick Show. Trade Deadline came and went, had
a little bit of action there. Tom Pelsero, NFL network insider,
will join us coming up a little bit. Also Robert
(00:22):
Griffin Junior, the third former Heisman winner. He will join
us a little bit later on as well. Phone calls
always welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Every day, Tyler's sitting by eight seven to seven three
DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock. That's
our streaming partner and our radio affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio,
Fox Sports Radio over four hundred cities that carried the program.
Stat of the Day is always brought to you by
Panini America, the official trading cards of the program and
(00:50):
the new Foliage flannels available in the store at Danpatrick
dot com. First Down are brought to you by Rapid
Radios Instant push to Talk Talky Talkies offering national LTE coverage,
clear connection at the touch of a button. Great communication
device for kids after school you want to stay in
touch with them one push of a button, rapid Radios
(01:12):
dot Com up to sixty percent off in free shipping,
Play of the Day, poll, question stat of the Day.
All of that coming up. NBA suspends Joellenbiid for three
games for the incident with a reporter, so you're going
to have him play even less basketball. I would make
Joe Ellenbiid play three games. Maybe we start there. The
(01:34):
first college football rankings released, we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We have the NFL octob VP.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
SEPTEMVP went so well.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, the NFL octob VP. That'll be coming up a
little bit later on as well. We play in or out.
We got a lot of things to get to today.
Shoheo Tani has shoulders surgery, so it wasn't just it
was popped out of place. He's got labram surgery and
(02:06):
from first hand knowledge of that, that's going to be
a little more recovery time than if he dislocated his shoulder.
But torn labraam non pitching shoulder, and I'm sure he'll
be ready for spring training all right. The Commanders got
a cornerback out from the Saints, Marcus Lattimore. And if
(02:27):
I would have said at the start of the year, hey,
by the way the Commanders are buying at the trade deadline,
they're going all in. And then you'd go, well, they
got a rookie quarterback Dan Quinn, first year coach there,
although he's coached before. You're in a pretty tough division.
Feels like you're going to have the Eagles gonna be
really good. Maybe the Cowboys are good. The Giants could
(02:50):
they be good? Probably not. But the Saints gave up
Marcus Lattimore. Latimore was the pick after Patrick Rick Mahomes,
So Drew Brees was going to take or no, Sean
Payton was going to take Patrick Mahomes and that's when
the Chiefs went up and got him. And then he said, look, uh,
(03:12):
if he was there, we were taking him. Instead, they
took Marcus Lattimore, who is I think a three time
All Pro. I mean he's a really good defensive back.
The Steelers get Mike Williams. I found it interesting. You know,
we do give credit to Aaron Rodgers that he's running
the Jets. He was on the Pat McAfee show when
he found out his former teammate was now being traded.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Mike's good guy, he'll be uh, he'll be good in
that locker room. Obviously, I had a lot of great
veteran leadership. He's he said, a nice career, and sometimes
change the scenery is uh is great for great for
certain guys. I mean it was great for me. It's
fun kind of get rian re and thews and stuff.
And you know, we kind of knew with what DeVante
coming in that uh, there'd be less targets for everybody
(03:56):
because you know, Geez lead league targets. He even to
get his targets and tell his dynamic players need his target.
So if this gives Mike more opportunities, that's awesome, and
we wish.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Mike well, okay, wow, surely nice. He did call him
out when he ran the wrong pass route and he
threw an interception, but hey, you love Mike and Mike
Snell going to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Even the Steelers picking
up somebody, I know they did need another wide receiver.
I don't know what Mike Williams has left, but better
(04:29):
than nothing, I guess. You know who's got a lot
of wide receivers and tight ends. The Baltimore Ravens. The
Ravens have probably more weapons than anybody in football right now,
and that includes the Lions. So when you talk about
two great offenses, it feels like the Ravens said, Okay,
our defense isn't that good, but our offense is going
(04:51):
to be great. And I want to talk to Tom
Pels Tom peliserro the NFL Network and ask him our
team's gearing up with whatever moves they made to face
the Kansas City Chiefs, because that's used to a lot
of teams will do that. Hey, we're going to improve
our team because we have to beat that team. And
(05:12):
I find that what the Commanders did. You get a
really good defensive back, but I looked at what the
Ravens were doing bringing in another wide receiver. You're gonna say,
we might not be able to stop the Kansas City Chiefs,
but we don't believe they can stop us either, because
you don't want to get into that one dimensional game
(05:33):
that happened last year in the playoffs, and you want
to be able to have your game plan. And it
feels like the Ravens are all in on offense this year.
And normally you think of the Ravens, you do think
of defensive players. But they made some moves there. Now,
some other teams made moves but they made moves prior
to the trade deadline, so we get caught up in
what happened yesterday. Other teams made moves a week ago.
(05:58):
But now we move on. This is it, This is
who your team is the rest of the season. So
we'll talk to Tom coming up, all right, Seaton Pole
question for hour one is going to be what.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Pole?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Question for hour one?
Speaker 6 (06:11):
What kind of mood did you wake up in today?
Couldn't be better, couldn't be worse?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Back?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Football is great?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, that's a trade deadline question? Yeah the trade?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Did your team do what you wanted them to do
for the trade deadline?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Got another question? I can't even have fun. By the way, Todd.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Fritzy was sending notes last night during the election coverage
as if he was Kevin Harlan, And if Kevin Harlan
was working the election last night, he would have sounded
like this.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
The vice president hit a three with Vermont, but the
former president has gone on an eighteenth three electoral vote run.
The Harris campaign holds play through group and talk things over.
We step a ry for stations to identify themselves. You're
listening to the Race to the White House exclusively on
West wood one.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
All right, than you have been nice.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
So Todd credits you want to talk about it, take
a thirty and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Todd is doing this and I'm I'm watching mac football.
I just it got to the point. I'm exhausted with
all of the election coverage. Commercials uh, you know, sides,
people pinions, all that, and I'm like, Okay, whatever happens happens.
I'm going to watch some mac football. And then Todd
(07:36):
starts doing play by play.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He kicked a field goal with Vermont, and all of
a sudden, it's eighteen three. I'm like, what's going on here?
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Uh, it's eighteen to three an eighteen oh run team.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Kamala is going to talk about it than you. This
is the electoral College.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Loan him out.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Uh. And then I was like, all right, he made
me laugh there. I thought we'd been trying to tell
you about these swing states. I try to tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I thought we'd have to wait till Thursday to sort
all of this out. It was like, uh, nope, midnight
ball game. Oh, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's like baseball. It's a lot quicker these days.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's it. Yeah, you know, pitch count, Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
What if the election was best out of three, and
like this was the first game, and then what would
the results be for the next In two days from
now you have another one, and then if there's a
need for a third election.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Then you go for that.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
So opening round to the baseball playoff. Yeah, yeah, it's
a best of three. It's spread out over a.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Week if necessary.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
All right, what's the other? What's the other?
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, since I brought up this first pole question, Paul
has sent me four. Oh okay, Jack, I was just
going to steer away from that one. I'm going to
jump ahead to a segment. But I want to get
this on the record now. I know we're doing October VP. Okay, later,
but I'm gonna put up there your mid season MVP
is dot dot. I'll throw out a couple of options
(09:06):
for you. Is that okay?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Or no?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Or you want me to just save the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Why don't we save NFL October VP.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm gonna dead.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
This is your mid season MVP, a combination of September
and October.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Everybody gets the trophy?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, mid season MVPs.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yes, that's the most Valuable Player.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
All right, thank you to.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Clarifying just in case anyone knows wondering or person. Yeah,
how about Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bill. Yeah, that
fella right there.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, he's doing some nice things, doing some nice things.
How about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
He's doing some nice thing, Baltimore Ravens quarterback. I heard
some blowbacks and pushback about Lamar winning another MVP. Well
did they say this when Aaron Rodgers won his MVPs. Hey,
he doesn't do anything in the playoffs, Like we can't
move the goalpost on Lamar Jackson or Peyton Manning when
(10:04):
he won his MVPs, he wasn't winning super Bowls like
Rogers has won.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Peyton has really won. He won the other one in Denver.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But we're talking about when you win an MVP, how
many times do we go, well, what did he do
in the postseason? And it feels like we're trying to
do that with Lamar And I don't think any I
don't remember people doing that. Darreon Rodgers like, yeah, they
usually don't do well in the playoffs. I'm not voting
for him next time. He's got four MVPs, he's got
(10:35):
one super Bowl. Now do I want to see Lamar
cash in and do well in the playoffs. I do
you know, I don't like when you know, we go, oh,
you know, he was really good. But you want to
see great players be great, get the opportunity to be
on a big stage. But I don't think we held
that against Peyton. I don't think we held that against
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes, Marv.
Speaker 10 (10:56):
Do you think Derek Henry having the season Eddi's having
is going to hurt Lamar's chance is this season?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, He's got incredible number. Both have incredible numbers. I
think Josh Allen is the MVP, and Jared Goff I'd
put him in there as well. I just it feels
like people are like hesitant. It's it's almost like when
you're going to vote for a Heisman candidate, but you're like,
(11:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Jared Goff feels like I don't know. But you look
at the numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
This six game stretch is the greatest stretch completion wise
in NFL history. But if I say, hey, how about
that percentage with Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So gone two touchdowns seven percent, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
There's nothing there where Lamar Jackson will do something or
Josh Allen will do something, Mahomes will do something. With
Jared Goff, you're like, oh, man, I don't think they've
dropped a pass. Wow, they're scoring forty two points. But
he's not going to get the credit there. But the
whole MVP thing is tricky, well documented on this show
(12:10):
with how I've voted in different sports, different categories here,
but I don't want to hear this argument. Lamar Jackson
doesn't do anything in the postseason. Aaron Rodgers didn't either.
Peyton had his moments, but the Patriots had his number.
You win the MVP by what you do during the
(12:32):
regular season. I have no problem with that. It gets
back to the NBA. They didn't want to give it
to Joker and give him another one because of the
category that it would put him in, Like are you
going to put him.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
In there with Larry Bird and Bill Russell? And yes, yes,
he's been the best player in basketball. Not Wait, I
didn't do anything in the postseason. Joe Ellenbiid hasn't and
he got MVP. We waited for Giannis to win a title.
Now you can validate giving the MVP. It's tricky like that.
(13:06):
It shouldn't be like that, but it is for a
lot of voters.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yes, Paul, I disagree a little bit on the Rogers
angle because Rogers won the Super Bowl in twenty ten,
and that following season he won his first MVP. After that,
not a lot of playoff victories, but he didn't get
a league MVP till he won Super Bowl, so they
did wait for him. And then after that his MVPs.
If you look at his three that he got afterwards,
and you're right, he didn't do much in the playoffs
(13:31):
after the first Super Bowl. His numbers were silly. They
were like almost impossible to ignore. Like that Joe Burrow
year at LSU, he had the MVP thirty eight touchdowns,
five picks in a season. Another one he had forty
eight touchdowns and five picks. That might be the single
greatest season of all time for a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But if I told you he's not going to do
anything in the postseason, that's where Lamar is kind of
you're right, But that would that have affected somebody's vote?
And I think it would have, yeah, because hey, look
I can't deny what Rogers did.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
He was spectacular.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now you do get ex teammates will say, you know,
he was trying to boost his stats so he didn't
have intercell Like he wasn't throwing those passes that were
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I wish my Bears quarterbacks would do that.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
I know, whatever that selfish thing is, I'm like, really,
I mean, there are people who are really divided with
Rogers who played with him, and they're like selfish, you know,
on his own agenda.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And then you'd have people say, hey, you know, I'd
walk through fire for him, loved him, Yes, Paulin.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
He's won Super Bowl away from being equal to Peyton Manning,
an equal to all those guys. If you look at
his numbers, his super Bowl is early. I think he
was twenty seven when he won it, and so it's
kind of way in the past. If he picked off
one more Super Bowl, let's say he got one in
two thousand, but.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He might get it the way Peyton got it, where
oh yeah, you're kind of like, hey, your team won
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know that would be enough though, because his stats
he has four hundred and ninety crew touchdowns and one
hundred and twelve picks.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, who would you rather have Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.
You're starting your team. They're both twenty seven years event.
Speaker 11 (15:13):
Oh man, who you starting your team?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Is it too early to bring that up?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That might be the toughest because there's no wrong answer.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
If I threw Brady in there, does Brady separate himself
from those those two? You start in your team? Brady Rogers, Peyton?
How about we take a break?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Wow, it's insult I'm gonna add what is insulting?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh well you would say Tom Brady? Okay, well, who
in the right mind? Okay, I can take him off.
I can take him off. We'll just have Peyton manning
Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna hit Tom Pelsero from NFL Network
with that. Now, I'm gonna start his morning with that.
All right, we're just getting started. Settle on a pull question,
got our play of the day coming out?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Take a break. We're back after that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was asking the hypothetical question yesterday if the Lions
in Chiefs met today or this weekend and on a
neutral field, what would the line be and I was
initially told Paul had a connection said that it would
be a pick em DraftKings has sent me something as
a follow up. They said they would have the Chiefs
(16:33):
as a one point favorite over the Lions if they
played in the Super Bowl neutral field.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Today.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I like what the Commanders did. You got Jaden Daniels
and the team is seven and two. Dan Quinn has
done a nice job. Defensive minded coach gets a second
chance to be a head coach, Cliff Kingsbury, former Arizona
head coach. He's the offensive coordinator. And they really changed
it almost overnight. When you think about the new ownership there,
(17:03):
who is it. Josh Harris became the new owner, Adam
Peters the new GM. They got rid of the stink
of Daniel Snyder, and you feel like they're a competent,
competitive franchise and it's been a long time before we've
been able to say that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And they made the move.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They got Marcus Lattimore, who's a high end defensive back.
So they're in it. They're in it to win it,
and I love it. I think it's great. And that's
what I wanted to see. Who was buying who was
selling at the trade deadline and not as much action
as we would hope for because I didn't know if
you would get a big name. I didn't know if
Miles Garrett or Max Crosby would be traded, if the
(17:43):
Cowboys would entertain trading Micah Parsons. I just don't know
how they're going to pay all three of those guys.
And I think it was last year. I don't know
if it was around this time. But Seaton goes, you know,
the Cowboys, they have an interesting problem. And I said
how So he goes, well, you got to pay CD,
you gotta pay Dak Prescott, you got to pay Michael
Parsons like it's a It was a good thing that
(18:05):
they developed, but now you got to pay them, and
it's a bad thing. He's Tom Peblisero, NFL Network Insider.
You can see him on The Insiders on NFL Network
tonight at seven Eastern. All right, Tom, before we get started,
you can start your team with Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning.
They're both twenty seven years of age. Who you taken
(18:28):
as your quarterback?
Speaker 12 (18:30):
So Peyton Manning won his first MVP, I believe, at
age twenty seven in three So he was very much
like coming into his prime at that point. I was
covering the Packers in the early stages of Aaron Rodgers' career.
I was on at the Green Bay Prescazette from seven
to nine, so he was a little bit but below
aged twenty seven. He was coming into his MVP years
(18:53):
there too. I think it's probably Peyton, honestly, just because
the track record was there. You know, Aaron had gone
the Juco route and then it played at Cal and
they totally remade his mechanics early on you were still
finding out now, you know, nine, ten eleven, he suddenly
was playing at you know, the best level in the NFL.
(19:14):
But just in terms of like the safety, who I
feel most confident about, I'd probably say Payton Man.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah. I don't know if there's a wrong answer. Aaron
I think was twenty eight when he won his MVP. Peyton.
Because I mentioned this, I wonder if there's gonna be
a bias with Lamar Jackson because he hasn't won a
Super Bowl. And it feels like we sometimes base our
regular season vote on or against somebody because they haven't
(19:39):
done well in the postseason. We do this in the
NBA you know, Joe Ellenbiid hadn't won anything, but he
somehow got an MVP. Joker, they held it against him.
You can't give him another MVP. Janni's got an MVP
after he won a title there, so I wonder Lamar
probably with a bias against him. And then you got
what's happening with Derrick Henry as well?
Speaker 12 (20:01):
Yeah, well, I think I think that's the more compelling
point Dan is Derrick Henry. If you've got two people
on the same team and you can make a coach
and argument for either of them being the MVP, then
is either of them the MVP or is it kind
of the perfect you know, collective. I don't think that
the now. Everybody does it differently. I had a vote
(20:23):
for a number of years, and then they don't let
you vote when you go to NFL Network, so I
lost my vote. My procedure was I just talked to
every coaching GM in the league that I could and said, like,
who would you vote for on all these awards? I
think other people probably just vote on gut feeling or
what they're seeing on the field. I know that's Aaron
Rodgers won four MVPs and he's got one super Bowl win.
(20:45):
Lamar's won two MVPs without a super Bowl win. I
think that we liked the new thing. I think that's
the biggest bias that we see is, Hey, you know,
Cam Newton had an unbelievable year, and he did in
twenty fifteen, but at no point before after that was
he an MVP level type of a player. He won
in a landslide in twenty fifteen. Because you know, it
(21:08):
just gets boring voting for Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
Bill Belichick I think only won like one or two
Coach of the Year awards because people get bored. They
like the new thing, you know, and then half the
time the coach of the year two years later they're fired.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, but Jared Goff, you can't play any better than
he's played in the last six games. These are historical numbers,
and they're winning it. There's efficiency, they appear to be
the best team in the NFC. But it doesn't feel
like Jared Goff gets mentioned when And look, I'm not
(21:41):
campaigning for him. I just know what he's doing hasn't
been done before. So the value you get for him
with your team has to be factored in as well,
Jared Goffs.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
Had a really weird career when when you think about it,
I mean, he's the number one overall pick in twenty sixteen.
He plays his first year, takes over under Jeff Fisher,
and it's just abysmal, and everyone in the world is
saying the Rams messed up. They should have drafted Carson Wentz.
This guy can't play. Sean mcveigat's there. The following year,
(22:15):
Jared goff starts playing All a Sudden at a really
high level, and there was a lot made of, you know,
the communication and how McVeigh was in Golf's here and
helping him through, but Jared was learning all the way through. There,
they go to a Super Bowl, they get shut down
by the Patriots. A year or two later, McVeigh decides,
I can't win with the guy. He's the throw. I
think they had to trade a first round pick to
offload his guaranteed money to get Matthew Stafford. Obviously it
(22:38):
worked on well for the Rams, because you know, they
won a Super Bowl in that first year with Stafford.
But for golf to go from he's a joke to oh,
my goodness, he's one of the best players in the
league too. He's a joke again back to he's one
of the best players in the league. Like, you don't
see that type of arc a whole lot here. I
think that, yeah, I mean I think that that some
of that does perhaps get held against people everybody knows.
(22:59):
Ben Jonson since really good. Dan Campbell's really good. They
got tons of weapons on that Lion's team, but they're
still you know, going out there. They lose Aydon Hutchinson,
one of the best young defensive players in the league,
and it doesn't even matter because they're scoring fifty points
a game. I think that Jared Goff has to be
considered among the MVP candidates, even though you know, if
you put together the Jared Goff highlight reel versus the
(23:20):
Lamar or Holmes highlight reel, you know, golf loses.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Tom Pelvisero NFL Network insider, give me the best trade
rumor you heard yesterday that didn't come to fruition or
the last week or so.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
I would say. I mean, there's always, you know, various
names that pop up at different points, and there was
a lot made of you know, the Rams stuff, which
was real, I mean, the Cooper Cuff stuff. They absolutely
explored it. He didn't end up getting traded all of
a sudden, they win three games in a row and
they're like a half game back in the division lead. Now,
you know, if that season goes a different direction, are
we talking about Matthew Stafford potentially being traded. I mean,
(23:56):
there were definitely people speculating about that when they were
one and four, But we didn't have We never had
a quarterback suffer a major season ending injury. That's one
of the biggest differences last year versus this year. You know,
you had that early spate last year of Aaron Rodgers
gets hurt right out of the gate, and Cousins gets
hurt and Anthony Richardson gets hurt. Like there was this
line of quarterbacks suffering major injuries. We didn't have it.
(24:20):
So a lot of the quarterback stuff never really got
ramped up just because there wasn't the need there. I
would say, you know, one of the wildest trades that
happened was what happened with Marshawn Lattimore. Because the Saints
go from firing Dennis Allen on Sunday or Monday or
Monday morning, whatever. It was a very unique statement. I
(24:41):
think it's fair to say for Mickey Loomis where he
basically says like, this wasn't Dennis Allen's fault. He's a
great coach. We had a ton of injuries and we're
gonna miss him. I don't recall seeing a GM say
something No, there was no turn in the statement too,
but we needed to make a change. So Mickey Loomis
feels like Stilly's got a really good team. The one
guy that were going to trade was Latimore, and credit
(25:01):
to Mickey for you know, stirring up a market. They
had four different teams. I thought it was getting done
to the Chiefs that they were going to make yet
another splash.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Oh wow.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
You know, the Ravens were in that mix, the Chargers were,
I believe in that mix. And then in the end
it's the Commanders who a year ago were the big
story of trade deadline because they traded everybody, because they
traded Chase Young to San Francisco and they traded Montes
Sweat to Chicago to get a year later and for
them to be the team that really came out of
nowhere in the last hour before that trade got done
(25:31):
and give up a third and fourth round pick to
add a veteran quarterback. You know, it's a fun time
to watch what the what the commanders are doing. But
that was definitely one where you're chasing all these different permutations,
and I did not think until the final twenty minutes
or so that he was going to Washington.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Who should have been traded?
Speaker 12 (25:49):
It's a good question. I'm a little bit surprised that
the Browns didn't do more. I think that that's probably
indicative of the fact that they feel like they had
a playoff team last year in but for you know,
the up and down quarterback play that they've had throughout
the course of the season, and now with Deshan Watson
hurt yet again, another guy who got hurt last year,
(26:09):
another one of those ones where they went through five
different quarterbacks, they feel like they, you know, they still
could have been good. I mean, it sounded like they
were willing to trade just about anybody. I wasn't surprised
that they didn't trade Miles Garrett, but I thought, you know,
between listen, they already traded Amari Cooper and that was
a fairly significant deal. They traded Zadarius Smith to Detroit. Finally,
yesterday after after several weeks of work. But you know
(26:32):
between let's say, you know, Greg Newsom, I'm just throwing
out names, and I thought, like made sense on paper,
Greg Newsom, maybe David Nijoku. You've got some good players
Elijah Moore that you probably could get value for. I
thought maybe this would be a especially knowing the Browns
analytical approach, I thought maybe this would be more of
a go down to build back up. They seem to be,
(26:53):
you know, looking forward twenty twenty five of let's get
a new quarterback potentially, you know, see where DeShawn Watson is. Realistically,
they got to draft a quarterback next year, and they
did pick up some ammunition. I thought maybe they'd pick
up even more.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I don't know if you can rebuild with Deshaun
Watson's contract there.
Speaker 12 (27:11):
It's it's a really valid point, Dan, I would say this,
you know, ninety two million dollars is what they still
over the next two years. Forget this year for a second,
because they already paid that down. Anyway, they own ninety
two million over the next two years. That would be
the most cash that we've ever seen a team eat.
But we just saw the Broncos last year. Eat it
(27:32):
somewhere around forty million of Russell Wilson just to say
we are moving on. How do the Browns get out
out of things with Deshaun Watson. I mean, there's several
different ways this could go. One is you just say
we're paying them anyway, Let's draft a quarterback, sign a quarterback, whatever,
Let the Shawn come in. It's an open competition, and
we see what happens and we either cut them or
(27:54):
is the backup or maybe you know, he finally gets
back and is the starter again, but we let it ride.
The second option of this is you pull off a
brock Osweiler style trade or you send you know, assets
with the player to get rid of the player and
get rid of his money. Ninety two million would be
(28:15):
an extreme amount to trade. I mean brock Osweiler, you know,
that's always the example because the Browns at the time
took on his seventeen million dollars salary and got a
second round pick out of it. Well, if the second
round picks were seventeen million, what do you get for
ninety two million? I mean, you're probably throwing good money
after bad literally and figuratively. If you're saying all right,
(28:37):
let's send two first round picks just to try to
get rid of Deshawn's money. So the third option is
you cut them. You just say, we're gonna eat the
ninety two million. It is what it is. We're going
to take it now, and Deshaun can go on to
the next thing and we are getting a clean break.
That would hurt, obviously, because they put so much into
this trade and several first round picks, giving him a
(28:57):
two or three million dollar fully guaranteed contract, taking all
the flat that they did, and a lot of it
justified for making that trade at the time that they
did it. But you know, they thought they were getting
a top five quarterback. Instead they got a guy who
on paper is the least efficient quarterback in the entire NFL.
Is hurt once again, and it's played a grand total,
if I want to say, it's nineteen games over the
(29:19):
past four seasons combined. That's where they are. I think
you can rebuild, but it's gonna take a little bit
of you know, it's going to take some pain. We've
seen teams do it. The Bills did it early on
when Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean were there. Just took
the boatload of the cap consequences and everything else. They
had a really down second year, but then you know,
you got that thing building in the right direction. It's
(29:42):
not impossible. It will hurt, it's gonna be pain, but
it's not impossible.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Dan, great to talk to you. Thank you again. Tom
appreciate it as always.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Tom Pelsero. You can see him the NFL Network Insiders.
That's coming up tonight at seven eastern. Yeah, I had
mentioned this. I think I came in on that Monday
and I said that I had spoken with somebody who's
affiliated with the Rams and they said Cooper will be
available if we lose on Thursday night. Well, they ended
(30:10):
up winning, and now they've won a couple of games
in a row. And then when I started to explore
it a little bit, and I only asked this in passing.
I said, what about Matthew Stafford? And he said why
do you ask? I said, well, I don't know. Is
there something there? He goes, well, I think everything is open.
(30:31):
You know, the Rams have done this before where we
don't need draft picks and we're going to get guy
we want to win. You know, that's the approach they
have so that was why I was like, could Matthew
Stafford have been available? And as Tom mentioned, apparently he
could have been. Now I don't know if there was anything,
and he offers any of that, so I don't want
(30:51):
to go too deep into it down the rabbit hole.
But Cooper was available and then we've seen him. I
think he had eleven catches last week and now the
Rams are back in it. So just want to make
sure that I clarify that we're not, you know, giving
too much credence to what they could have done with
Matthew Stafford. I was just this was what I was told,
(31:13):
and Cooper cup was going to be available. All right,
let's go around the room, Todd. You can start your
team with Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning, okay,
seat no Connor.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
At gosh, I was gonna say Peyton Manning, but I
really don't know the whole Peyton Manning was his own offense.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Thing.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Is you want me to come back the screen? No, No,
I just want to talk about this. It feels like
it's more fun when we talk about it rather just
like rip through like four names and then that said.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's done.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Peyton Manning was his own offense, but at the same time,
the Patriots new like at some point he's going to
cough the ball up, so we know we're gonna win.
That's what makes me think it's Aaron Rodgers is the guy.
I'm going with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, Marvin, I'm going with
Aaron Rodgers. Also, do you want to add anything to that?
Since Seaton was able to add to his answer, I.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Think they're one and the same. I just think I
hate saying this, but there's just more arm talent. I
think Aaron Rodgers could just do more than Peyton Manning could.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, Paul Aaron Rodgers Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
It's really close. Aaron Rodgers has half as many career
interceptions as Peyton Manning did, less than half. In the playoffs,
they have this exactly similar record, one over five hundred.
Aaron Rodgers playoff stats are also way better than Aaron
Peyton Manning's. My only hesitation on Rodgers is his demeanor
sometimes with his teammates and his franchise. Peyton seemed all
(32:41):
in to help the team at all points.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
I am going with Aaron Rodgers, though you're going with
Aaron rod I'm going with Aaron. Kay, Yeah, I would
go with Aaron Rodgers. And we didn't find out really
nationally about Aaron Rodgers and how he was. His personality. Now,
there were always people to talking about it that he
you know, he was on his own agenda and it
(33:04):
was all about him.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You know, I got all that.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
There's it's hard to be great without being selfish, and
some of the greatest athletes we've ever had, they're selfish,
but that greatness will spill over to team greatness. You know,
Jordan was selfish and then he learned that you can't
be selfish and he took less money. They brought in people,
(33:29):
you know, Kobe's Kobe mean, you know, Mamba mentality spilled
over to a team in how they played, you know,
magic with what he was doing, and that personality spilling over.
Bird probably not the easiest guy to get along with
with the Celtics, but the way he played, how he played,
everybody else had to pick up their game. So you
(33:49):
see that sometimes where yes, Rogers could he be difficult,
yet we're seeing more of that now. Back then he
was making every throw that I mean, we look at Mahomes. Now,
Rogers was Mahomes before Mahomes. As far as talent, you know,
the throws that he had, being nimble, getting extra yards,
(34:10):
making tough throws, game on the line. That's the quarterback
you wanted. Peyton did change the NFL. He changed the
NFL when you think about your calling plays at the
line of scrimmage. He was the offensive coordinator and doing
it didn't have you know, that much postseason success, but
(34:32):
he was awesome. He was awesome to think that he's
doing all of that. Bill Cowherd talked about it yesterday.
He'd be on the sidelines and Peyton would be like,
all right, that there, that's there. And then Bill Cowers said,
and he realized exactly what we were doing. No other
quarterback had done that before. All right, well take a break.
Play of the Day up next.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP, Oh my God,
The Play of the.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Day, Cutter, Lipsy go.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Play.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Check this out. The Big White turn Weenburt cuts his
way in, Wentburt to the.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
Time.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's courtesy of NBC Sports, California. Since losing nine straight
to start the season, why Sharks.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Have now won four of their last five. That's your
play of the day.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Play of the day brought to you by Express Employment
Professionals helping you hire your next pro. Forget about posting jobs,
sifting through resumes, interviews with unqualified applicants. Move up to
the pros expresspros dot com find the location nearest you. Seaton,
would you update the poll results from the first forty
nine minutes of the program?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I sure?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Or who would you start your team with? Aaron Rodgers
or Peyton Manning? These are to me, what are shocking results?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, all shocking.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I would bet Manning has at least seventy five percent.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Of the vote.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Recncy bias ninety two percent of the audience right now
we're voting for Pete ninety two.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That would be a recentcy bias of how Aaron Rodgers
has played. Peyton hadn't played in a long time. I
hadn't played in a long time. All right, let me
see get some phone calls in here. Amanda in Michigan
leads us off. Good morning, Amanda. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Hedp, How are you saying average, average, excellent. Well, I
was calling because I wanted to wish my husband, who
is probably sitting on a meeting not listening at the moment,
a very happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And his name is his name is Ryan, Ryan. Happy
by Wie. There you go, man. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
You guys the best.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Thank you all right, every day super Bowl trying to
raise morale one person every time Ryan in a meeting
didn't even hear his birthday greeting Curtis in Illinois, Hi,
Curtis Warner DP.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Kind of a conspiracy theory I throughout there for you,
since you announced your retirement on December twenty fourth of
twenty twenty seven, it sets up you to be take
about a three month vacation and then immediately hit the
campaign trail for Dan Patrick twenty twenty eight, which the
follow up question of who are you taking with you?
Because I think time for it would make one of
(37:54):
the best press secretaries.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You could have.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
What would your guys' roles be in the White House?
Todd is the press secretary, I could put.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
A spin on things, I could play with words.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I would hope MM put you in a good light
no matter what.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
You're you're putting that dude in front of the public
on a daily basis, in front of the media.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I would talk so much it I'll be like, no
more questions, we gotta go.
Speaker 10 (38:17):
We don't have time for any fo.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You would you would fill a buster, you would, you
would be good at that. You would only call on
female reporters that Yeah, true, I would hold my hand
up for thirty minutes. Yeah, I'll get to you. Maybe
a blonde from the Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
What do you got? What role? Were roles would you
guys play in?
Speaker 9 (38:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
In my White House? Uh? So, Fritzie is my press secretary? Seeton?
What do you want to head up here?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Man? That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Can you want to be an ambassador? Oh? I could
handle being an ambassador?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Okay, I want to go secretary of State, chief of staff,
secretary has dates something good?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Man.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I'm I mean I'll take the you know, ambassador to
Ireland or Italy or something like that. I'll do that
all day, frantic. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Let's roll Marvin. What role would you like in my
White House? You know what secret service? Oh? You're going
to be heading up my secret service? Look, I can
spot sketch people.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know, Wow, that's a shot at Todd PAULI but roll, let's.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
See Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of the Interior. I don't
know what Secretary of the Interior actually does, so that
might be perfect.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Do they have a secretary of the extraterior?
Speaker 4 (39:37):
No, and you got to take care of that house.
You can't just powerwash it.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I know.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah, I would say I think i'd be a good
vice president living off Oh oh wow, don't they live
at the naval base. You're ready, but you can you
can go do the dignitary things.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well, I didn't know that you were going to be
my vice president.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
I'll give you feedback and throw things in there.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But hmmm, okay, it'll be a fun roll.
Speaker 10 (40:01):
Yes, I could say Paul ahead of travel and wardrobe
and flannel and all that stuff too, because he's always
you know.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But I don't think they don't have a head of wardrobe.
You're the president.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
You create your own positions.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Be chief of staff, don't. I don't want somebody to
know that I have a chief of wardrobe. That probably
doesn't seem like. Maybe that's what politics is missing.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Wardrobe, A little more wardrobe a little more focus on wardrobe, Daniel,
a little more flannel.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm looking at the White House cabinet. There is not
a director of wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Okay, all right, one hour in the books.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Two more to go on this Wednesday, twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Let's go, let's go. Yeah, Robert Griffin Junior, the third
is going to join us, going up here in about
twenty five minutes. More of your phone calls as well.
We're just getting started. Got a few things to get to,
including the NFL October VP in or out, and we'll
talk about the college football playoff rankings that came out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Hour two on the way
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Every day is the Super Bowl? How's morale?
Let's go our one. This Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Net's Dan Patrick Show. Trade Deadline came and went, had
a little bit of action there. Tom Pelsero, NFL network insider,
will join us coming up a little bit. Also Robert
(00:22):
Griffin Junior, the third former Heisman winner. He will join
us a little bit later on as well. Phone calls
always welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Every day, Tyler's sitting by eight seven to seven three
DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock. That's
our streaming partner and our radio affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio,
Fox Sports Radio over four hundred cities that carried the program.
Stat of the Day is always brought to you by
Panini America, the official trading cards of the program and
(00:50):
the new Foliage flannels available in the store at Danpatrick
dot com. First Down are brought to you by Rapid
Radios Instant push to Talk Talky Talkies offering national LTE coverage,
clear connection at the touch of a button. Great communication
device for kids after school you want to stay in
touch with them one push of a button, rapid Radios
(01:12):
dot Com up to sixty percent off in free shipping,
Play of the Day, poll, question stat of the Day.
All of that coming up. NBA suspends Joellenbiid for three
games for the incident with a reporter, so you're going
to have him play even less basketball. I would make
Joe Ellenbiid play three games. Maybe we start there. The
(01:34):
first college football rankings released, we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We have the NFL octob VP.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
SEPTEMVP went so well.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, the NFL octob VP. That'll be coming up a
little bit later on as well. We play in or out.
We got a lot of things to get to today.
Shoheo Tani has shoulders surgery, so it wasn't just it
was popped out of place. He's got labram surgery and
(02:06):
from first hand knowledge of that, that's going to be
a little more recovery time than if he dislocated his shoulder.
But torn labraam non pitching shoulder, and I'm sure he'll
be ready for spring training all right. The Commanders got
a cornerback out from the Saints, Marcus Lattimore. And if
(02:27):
I would have said at the start of the year, hey,
by the way the Commanders are buying at the trade deadline,
they're going all in. And then you'd go, well, they
got a rookie quarterback Dan Quinn, first year coach there,
although he's coached before. You're in a pretty tough division.
Feels like you're going to have the Eagles gonna be
really good. Maybe the Cowboys are good. The Giants could
(02:50):
they be good? Probably not. But the Saints gave up
Marcus Lattimore. Latimore was the pick after Patrick Rick Mahomes,
So Drew Brees was going to take or no, Sean
Payton was going to take Patrick Mahomes and that's when
the Chiefs went up and got him. And then he said, look, uh,
(03:12):
if he was there, we were taking him. Instead, they
took Marcus Lattimore, who is I think a three time
All Pro. I mean he's a really good defensive back.
The Steelers get Mike Williams. I found it interesting. You know,
we do give credit to Aaron Rodgers that he's running
the Jets. He was on the Pat McAfee show when
he found out his former teammate was now being traded.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Mike's good guy, he'll be uh, he'll be good in
that locker room. Obviously, I had a lot of great
veteran leadership. He's he said, a nice career, and sometimes
change the scenery is uh is great for great for
certain guys. I mean it was great for me. It's
fun kind of get rian re and thews and stuff.
And you know, we kind of knew with what DeVante
coming in that uh, there'd be less targets for everybody
(03:56):
because you know, Geez lead league targets. He even to
get his targets and tell his dynamic players need his target.
So if this gives Mike more opportunities, that's awesome, and
we wish.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Mike well, okay, wow, surely nice. He did call him
out when he ran the wrong pass route and he
threw an interception, but hey, you love Mike and Mike
Snell going to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Even the Steelers picking
up somebody, I know they did need another wide receiver.
I don't know what Mike Williams has left, but better
(04:29):
than nothing, I guess. You know who's got a lot
of wide receivers and tight ends. The Baltimore Ravens. The
Ravens have probably more weapons than anybody in football right now,
and that includes the Lions. So when you talk about
two great offenses, it feels like the Ravens said, Okay,
our defense isn't that good, but our offense is going
(04:51):
to be great. And I want to talk to Tom
Pels Tom peliserro the NFL Network and ask him our
team's gearing up with whatever moves they made to face
the Kansas City Chiefs, because that's used to a lot
of teams will do that. Hey, we're going to improve
our team because we have to beat that team. And
(05:12):
I find that what the Commanders did. You get a
really good defensive back, but I looked at what the
Ravens were doing bringing in another wide receiver. You're gonna say,
we might not be able to stop the Kansas City Chiefs,
but we don't believe they can stop us either, because
you don't want to get into that one dimensional game
(05:33):
that happened last year in the playoffs, and you want
to be able to have your game plan. And it
feels like the Ravens are all in on offense this year.
And normally you think of the Ravens, you do think
of defensive players. But they made some moves there. Now,
some other teams made moves but they made moves prior
to the trade deadline, so we get caught up in
what happened yesterday. Other teams made moves a week ago.
(05:58):
But now we move on. This is it, This is
who your team is the rest of the season. So
we'll talk to Tom coming up, all right, Seaton Pole
question for hour one is going to be what.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Pole?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Question for hour one?
Speaker 6 (06:11):
What kind of mood did you wake up in today?
Couldn't be better, couldn't be worse?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Back?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Football is great?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, that's a trade deadline question? Yeah the trade?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Did your team do what you wanted them to do
for the trade deadline?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Got another question? I can't even have fun. By the way, Todd.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Fritzy was sending notes last night during the election coverage
as if he was Kevin Harlan, And if Kevin Harlan
was working the election last night, he would have sounded
like this.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
The vice president hit a three with Vermont, but the
former president has gone on an eighteenth three electoral vote run.
The Harris campaign holds play through group and talk things over.
We step a ry for stations to identify themselves. You're
listening to the Race to the White House exclusively on
West wood one.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
All right, than you have been nice.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
So Todd credits you want to talk about it, take
a thirty and figure it out.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Todd is doing this and I'm I'm watching mac football.
I just it got to the point. I'm exhausted with
all of the election coverage. Commercials uh, you know, sides,
people pinions, all that, and I'm like, Okay, whatever happens happens.
I'm going to watch some mac football. And then Todd
(07:36):
starts doing play by play.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He kicked a field goal with Vermont, and all of
a sudden, it's eighteen three. I'm like, what's going on here?
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Uh, it's eighteen to three an eighteen oh run team.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Kamala is going to talk about it than you. This
is the electoral College.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Loan him out.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Uh. And then I was like, all right, he made
me laugh there. I thought we'd been trying to tell
you about these swing states. I try to tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I thought we'd have to wait till Thursday to sort
all of this out. It was like, uh, nope, midnight
ball game. Oh, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's like baseball. It's a lot quicker these days.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's it. Yeah, you know, pitch count, Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
What if the election was best out of three, and
like this was the first game, and then what would
the results be for the next In two days from
now you have another one, and then if there's a
need for a third election.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Then you go for that.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
So opening round to the baseball playoff. Yeah, yeah, it's
a best of three. It's spread out over a.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Week if necessary.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
All right, what's the other? What's the other?
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, since I brought up this first pole question, Paul
has sent me four. Oh okay, Jack, I was just
going to steer away from that one. I'm going to
jump ahead to a segment. But I want to get
this on the record now. I know we're doing October VP. Okay, later,
but I'm gonna put up there your mid season MVP
is dot dot. I'll throw out a couple of options
(09:06):
for you. Is that okay?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Or no?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Or you want me to just save the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Why don't we save NFL October VP.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm gonna dead.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
This is your mid season MVP, a combination of September
and October.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Everybody gets the trophy?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, mid season MVPs.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yes, that's the most Valuable Player.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
All right, thank you to.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Clarifying just in case anyone knows wondering or person. Yeah,
how about Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bill. Yeah, that
fella right there.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, he's doing some nice things, doing some nice things.
How about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
He's doing some nice thing, Baltimore Ravens quarterback. I heard
some blowbacks and pushback about Lamar winning another MVP. Well
did they say this when Aaron Rodgers won his MVPs. Hey,
he doesn't do anything in the playoffs, Like we can't
move the goalpost on Lamar Jackson or Peyton Manning when
(10:04):
he won his MVPs, he wasn't winning super Bowls like
Rogers has won.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Peyton has really won. He won the other one in Denver.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But we're talking about when you win an MVP, how
many times do we go, well, what did he do
in the postseason? And it feels like we're trying to
do that with Lamar And I don't think any I
don't remember people doing that. Darreon Rodgers like, yeah, they
usually don't do well in the playoffs. I'm not voting
for him next time. He's got four MVPs, he's got
(10:35):
one super Bowl. Now do I want to see Lamar
cash in and do well in the playoffs. I do
you know, I don't like when you know, we go, oh,
you know, he was really good. But you want to
see great players be great, get the opportunity to be
on a big stage. But I don't think we held
that against Peyton. I don't think we held that against
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes, Marv.
Speaker 10 (10:56):
Do you think Derek Henry having the season Eddi's having
is going to hurt Lamar's chance is this season?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, He's got incredible number. Both have incredible numbers. I
think Josh Allen is the MVP, and Jared Goff I'd
put him in there as well. I just it feels
like people are like hesitant. It's it's almost like when
you're going to vote for a Heisman candidate, but you're like,
(11:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Jared Goff feels like I don't know. But you look
at the numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
This six game stretch is the greatest stretch completion wise
in NFL history. But if I say, hey, how about
that percentage with Jared Goff.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So gone two touchdowns seven percent, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
There's nothing there where Lamar Jackson will do something or
Josh Allen will do something, Mahomes will do something. With
Jared Goff, you're like, oh, man, I don't think they've
dropped a pass. Wow, they're scoring forty two points. But
he's not going to get the credit there. But the
whole MVP thing is tricky, well documented on this show
(12:10):
with how I've voted in different sports, different categories here,
but I don't want to hear this argument. Lamar Jackson
doesn't do anything in the postseason. Aaron Rodgers didn't either.
Peyton had his moments, but the Patriots had his number.
You win the MVP by what you do during the
(12:32):
regular season. I have no problem with that. It gets
back to the NBA. They didn't want to give it
to Joker and give him another one because of the
category that it would put him in, Like are you
going to put him.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
In there with Larry Bird and Bill Russell? And yes, yes,
he's been the best player in basketball. Not Wait, I
didn't do anything in the postseason. Joe Ellenbiid hasn't and
he got MVP. We waited for Giannis to win a title.
Now you can validate giving the MVP. It's tricky like that.
(13:06):
It shouldn't be like that, but it is for a
lot of voters.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yes, Paul, I disagree a little bit on the Rogers
angle because Rogers won the Super Bowl in twenty ten,
and that following season he won his first MVP. After that,
not a lot of playoff victories, but he didn't get
a league MVP till he won Super Bowl, so they
did wait for him. And then after that his MVPs.
If you look at his three that he got afterwards,
and you're right, he didn't do much in the playoffs
(13:31):
after the first Super Bowl. His numbers were silly. They
were like almost impossible to ignore. Like that Joe Burrow
year at LSU, he had the MVP thirty eight touchdowns,
five picks in a season. Another one he had forty
eight touchdowns and five picks. That might be the single
greatest season of all time for a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But if I told you he's not going to do
anything in the postseason, that's where Lamar is kind of
you're right, But that would that have affected somebody's vote?
And I think it would have, yeah, because hey, look
I can't deny what Rogers did.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
He was spectacular.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Now you do get ex teammates will say, you know,
he was trying to boost his stats so he didn't
have intercell Like he wasn't throwing those passes that were
fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I wish my Bears quarterbacks would do that.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
I know, whatever that selfish thing is, I'm like, really,
I mean, there are people who are really divided with
Rogers who played with him, and they're like selfish, you know,
on his own agenda.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And then you'd have people say, hey, you know, I'd
walk through fire for him, loved him, Yes, Paulin.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
He's won Super Bowl away from being equal to Peyton Manning,
an equal to all those guys. If you look at
his numbers, his super Bowl is early. I think he
was twenty seven when he won it, and so it's
kind of way in the past. If he picked off
one more Super Bowl, let's say he got one in
two thousand, but.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He might get it the way Peyton got it, where
oh yeah, you're kind of like, hey, your team won
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You know that would be enough though, because his stats
he has four hundred and ninety crew touchdowns and one
hundred and twelve picks.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, who would you rather have Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.
You're starting your team. They're both twenty seven years event.
Speaker 11 (15:13):
Oh man, who you starting your team?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Is it too early to bring that up?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That might be the toughest because there's no wrong answer.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
If I threw Brady in there, does Brady separate himself
from those those two? You start in your team? Brady Rogers, Peyton?
How about we take a break?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Wow, it's insult I'm gonna add what is insulting?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh well you would say Tom Brady? Okay, well, who
in the right mind? Okay, I can take him off.
I can take him off. We'll just have Peyton manning
Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna hit Tom Pelsero from NFL Network
with that. Now, I'm gonna start his morning with that.
All right, we're just getting started. Settle on a pull question,
got our play of the day coming out?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Take a break. We're back after that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was asking the hypothetical question yesterday if the Lions
in Chiefs met today or this weekend and on a
neutral field, what would the line be and I was
initially told Paul had a connection said that it would
be a pick em DraftKings has sent me something as
a follow up. They said they would have the Chiefs
(16:33):
as a one point favorite over the Lions if they
played in the Super Bowl neutral field.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Today.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I like what the Commanders did. You got Jaden Daniels
and the team is seven and two. Dan Quinn has
done a nice job. Defensive minded coach gets a second
chance to be a head coach, Cliff Kingsbury, former Arizona
head coach. He's the offensive coordinator. And they really changed
it almost overnight. When you think about the new ownership there,
(17:03):
who is it. Josh Harris became the new owner, Adam
Peters the new GM. They got rid of the stink
of Daniel Snyder, and you feel like they're a competent,
competitive franchise and it's been a long time before we've
been able to say that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And they made the move.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They got Marcus Lattimore, who's a high end defensive back.
So they're in it. They're in it to win it,
and I love it. I think it's great. And that's
what I wanted to see. Who was buying who was
selling at the trade deadline and not as much action
as we would hope for because I didn't know if
you would get a big name. I didn't know if
Miles Garrett or Max Crosby would be traded, if the
(17:43):
Cowboys would entertain trading Micah Parsons. I just don't know
how they're going to pay all three of those guys.
And I think it was last year. I don't know
if it was around this time. But Seaton goes, you know,
the Cowboys, they have an interesting problem. And I said
how So he goes, well, you got to pay CD,
you gotta pay Dak Prescott, you got to pay Michael
Parsons like it's a It was a good thing that
(18:05):
they developed, but now you got to pay them, and
it's a bad thing. He's Tom Peblisero, NFL Network Insider.
You can see him on The Insiders on NFL Network
tonight at seven Eastern. All right, Tom, before we get started,
you can start your team with Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning.
They're both twenty seven years of age. Who you taken
(18:28):
as your quarterback?
Speaker 12 (18:30):
So Peyton Manning won his first MVP, I believe, at
age twenty seven in three So he was very much
like coming into his prime at that point. I was
covering the Packers in the early stages of Aaron Rodgers' career.
I was on at the Green Bay Prescazette from seven
to nine, so he was a little bit but below
aged twenty seven. He was coming into his MVP years
(18:53):
there too. I think it's probably Peyton, honestly, just because
the track record was there. You know, Aaron had gone
the Juco route and then it played at Cal and
they totally remade his mechanics early on you were still
finding out now, you know, nine, ten eleven, he suddenly
was playing at you know, the best level in the NFL.
(19:14):
But just in terms of like the safety, who I
feel most confident about, I'd probably say Payton Man.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah. I don't know if there's a wrong answer. Aaron
I think was twenty eight when he won his MVP. Peyton.
Because I mentioned this, I wonder if there's gonna be
a bias with Lamar Jackson because he hasn't won a
Super Bowl. And it feels like we sometimes base our
regular season vote on or against somebody because they haven't
(19:39):
done well in the postseason. We do this in the
NBA you know, Joe Ellenbiid hadn't won anything, but he
somehow got an MVP. Joker, they held it against him.
You can't give him another MVP. Janni's got an MVP
after he won a title there, so I wonder Lamar
probably with a bias against him. And then you got
what's happening with Derrick Henry as well?
Speaker 12 (20:01):
Yeah, well, I think I think that's the more compelling
point Dan is Derrick Henry. If you've got two people
on the same team and you can make a coach
and argument for either of them being the MVP, then
is either of them the MVP or is it kind
of the perfect you know, collective. I don't think that
the now. Everybody does it differently. I had a vote
(20:23):
for a number of years, and then they don't let
you vote when you go to NFL Network, so I
lost my vote. My procedure was I just talked to
every coaching GM in the league that I could and said, like,
who would you vote for on all these awards? I
think other people probably just vote on gut feeling or
what they're seeing on the field. I know that's Aaron
Rodgers won four MVPs and he's got one super Bowl win.
(20:45):
Lamar's won two MVPs without a super Bowl win. I
think that we liked the new thing. I think that's
the biggest bias that we see is, Hey, you know,
Cam Newton had an unbelievable year, and he did in
twenty fifteen, but at no point before after that was
he an MVP level type of a player. He won
in a landslide in twenty fifteen. Because you know, it
(21:08):
just gets boring voting for Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
Bill Belichick I think only won like one or two
Coach of the Year awards because people get bored. They
like the new thing, you know, and then half the
time the coach of the year two years later they're fired.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, but Jared Goff, you can't play any better than
he's played in the last six games. These are historical numbers,
and they're winning it. There's efficiency, they appear to be
the best team in the NFC. But it doesn't feel
like Jared Goff gets mentioned when And look, I'm not
(21:41):
campaigning for him. I just know what he's doing hasn't
been done before. So the value you get for him
with your team has to be factored in as well,
Jared Goffs.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
Had a really weird career when when you think about it,
I mean, he's the number one overall pick in twenty sixteen.
He plays his first year, takes over under Jeff Fisher,
and it's just abysmal, and everyone in the world is
saying the Rams messed up. They should have drafted Carson Wentz.
This guy can't play. Sean mcveigat's there. The following year,
(22:15):
Jared goff starts playing All a Sudden at a really
high level, and there was a lot made of, you know,
the communication and how McVeigh was in Golf's here and
helping him through, but Jared was learning all the way through. There,
they go to a Super Bowl, they get shut down
by the Patriots. A year or two later, McVeigh decides,
I can't win with the guy. He's the throw. I
think they had to trade a first round pick to
offload his guaranteed money to get Matthew Stafford. Obviously it
(22:38):
worked on well for the Rams, because you know, they
won a Super Bowl in that first year with Stafford.
But for golf to go from he's a joke to oh,
my goodness, he's one of the best players in the
league too. He's a joke again back to he's one
of the best players in the league. Like, you don't
see that type of arc a whole lot here. I
think that, yeah, I mean I think that that some
of that does perhaps get held against people everybody knows.
(22:59):
Ben Jonson since really good. Dan Campbell's really good. They
got tons of weapons on that Lion's team, but they're
still you know, going out there. They lose Aydon Hutchinson,
one of the best young defensive players in the league,
and it doesn't even matter because they're scoring fifty points
a game. I think that Jared Goff has to be
considered among the MVP candidates, even though you know, if
you put together the Jared Goff highlight reel versus the
(23:20):
Lamar or Holmes highlight reel, you know, golf loses.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Tom Pelvisero NFL Network insider, give me the best trade
rumor you heard yesterday that didn't come to fruition or
the last week or so.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
I would say. I mean, there's always, you know, various
names that pop up at different points, and there was
a lot made of you know, the Rams stuff, which
was real, I mean, the Cooper Cuff stuff. They absolutely
explored it. He didn't end up getting traded all of
a sudden, they win three games in a row and
they're like a half game back in the division lead. Now,
you know, if that season goes a different direction, are
we talking about Matthew Stafford potentially being traded. I mean,
(23:56):
there were definitely people speculating about that when they were
one and four, But we didn't have We never had
a quarterback suffer a major season ending injury. That's one
of the biggest differences last year versus this year. You know,
you had that early spate last year of Aaron Rodgers
gets hurt right out of the gate, and Cousins gets
hurt and Anthony Richardson gets hurt. Like there was this
line of quarterbacks suffering major injuries. We didn't have it.
(24:20):
So a lot of the quarterback stuff never really got
ramped up just because there wasn't the need there. I
would say, you know, one of the wildest trades that
happened was what happened with Marshawn Lattimore. Because the Saints
go from firing Dennis Allen on Sunday or Monday or
Monday morning, whatever. It was a very unique statement. I
(24:41):
think it's fair to say for Mickey Loomis where he
basically says like, this wasn't Dennis Allen's fault. He's a
great coach. We had a ton of injuries and we're
gonna miss him. I don't recall seeing a GM say
something No, there was no turn in the statement too,
but we needed to make a change. So Mickey Loomis
feels like Stilly's got a really good team. The one
guy that were going to trade was Latimore, and credit
(25:01):
to Mickey for you know, stirring up a market. They
had four different teams. I thought it was getting done
to the Chiefs that they were going to make yet
another splash.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Oh wow.
Speaker 12 (25:09):
You know, the Ravens were in that mix, the Chargers were,
I believe in that mix. And then in the end
it's the Commanders who a year ago were the big
story of trade deadline because they traded everybody, because they
traded Chase Young to San Francisco and they traded Montes
Sweat to Chicago to get a year later and for
them to be the team that really came out of
nowhere in the last hour before that trade got done
(25:31):
and give up a third and fourth round pick to
add a veteran quarterback. You know, it's a fun time
to watch what the what the commanders are doing. But
that was definitely one where you're chasing all these different permutations,
and I did not think until the final twenty minutes
or so that he was going to Washington.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Who should have been traded?
Speaker 12 (25:49):
It's a good question. I'm a little bit surprised that
the Browns didn't do more. I think that that's probably
indicative of the fact that they feel like they had
a playoff team last year in but for you know,
the up and down quarterback play that they've had throughout
the course of the season, and now with Deshan Watson
hurt yet again, another guy who got hurt last year,
(26:09):
another one of those ones where they went through five
different quarterbacks, they feel like they, you know, they still
could have been good. I mean, it sounded like they
were willing to trade just about anybody. I wasn't surprised
that they didn't trade Miles Garrett, but I thought, you know,
between listen, they already traded Amari Cooper and that was
a fairly significant deal. They traded Zadarius Smith to Detroit. Finally,
yesterday after after several weeks of work. But you know
(26:32):
between let's say, you know, Greg Newsom, I'm just throwing
out names, and I thought, like made sense on paper,
Greg Newsom, maybe David Nijoku. You've got some good players
Elijah Moore that you probably could get value for. I
thought maybe this would be a especially knowing the Browns
analytical approach, I thought maybe this would be more of
a go down to build back up. They seem to be,
(26:53):
you know, looking forward twenty twenty five of let's get
a new quarterback potentially, you know, see where DeShawn Watson is. Realistically,
they got to draft a quarterback next year, and they
did pick up some ammunition. I thought maybe they'd pick
up even more.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I don't know if you can rebuild with Deshaun
Watson's contract there.
Speaker 12 (27:11):
It's it's a really valid point, Dan, I would say this,
you know, ninety two million dollars is what they still
over the next two years. Forget this year for a second,
because they already paid that down. Anyway, they own ninety
two million over the next two years. That would be
the most cash that we've ever seen a team eat.
But we just saw the Broncos last year. Eat it
(27:32):
somewhere around forty million of Russell Wilson just to say
we are moving on. How do the Browns get out
out of things with Deshaun Watson. I mean, there's several
different ways this could go. One is you just say
we're paying them anyway, Let's draft a quarterback, sign a quarterback, whatever,
Let the Shawn come in. It's an open competition, and
we see what happens and we either cut them or
(27:54):
is the backup or maybe you know, he finally gets
back and is the starter again, but we let it ride.
The second option of this is you pull off a
brock Osweiler style trade or you send you know, assets
with the player to get rid of the player and
get rid of his money. Ninety two million would be
(28:15):
an extreme amount to trade. I mean brock Osweiler, you know,
that's always the example because the Browns at the time
took on his seventeen million dollars salary and got a
second round pick out of it. Well, if the second
round picks were seventeen million, what do you get for
ninety two million? I mean, you're probably throwing good money
after bad literally and figuratively. If you're saying all right,
(28:37):
let's send two first round picks just to try to
get rid of Deshawn's money. So the third option is
you cut them. You just say, we're gonna eat the
ninety two million. It is what it is. We're going
to take it now, and Deshaun can go on to
the next thing and we are getting a clean break.
That would hurt, obviously, because they put so much into
this trade and several first round picks, giving him a
(28:57):
two or three million dollar fully guaranteed contract, taking all
the flat that they did, and a lot of it
justified for making that trade at the time that they
did it. But you know, they thought they were getting
a top five quarterback. Instead they got a guy who
on paper is the least efficient quarterback in the entire NFL.
Is hurt once again, and it's played a grand total,
if I want to say, it's nineteen games over the
(29:19):
past four seasons combined. That's where they are. I think
you can rebuild, but it's gonna take a little bit
of you know, it's going to take some pain. We've
seen teams do it. The Bills did it early on
when Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean were there. Just took
the boatload of the cap consequences and everything else. They
had a really down second year, but then you know,
you got that thing building in the right direction. It's
(29:42):
not impossible. It will hurt, it's gonna be pain, but
it's not impossible.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Dan, great to talk to you. Thank you again. Tom
appreciate it as always.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Tom Pelsero. You can see him the NFL Network Insiders.
That's coming up tonight at seven eastern. Yeah, I had
mentioned this. I think I came in on that Monday
and I said that I had spoken with somebody who's
affiliated with the Rams and they said Cooper will be
available if we lose on Thursday night. Well, they ended
(30:10):
up winning, and now they've won a couple of games
in a row. And then when I started to explore
it a little bit, and I only asked this in passing.
I said, what about Matthew Stafford? And he said why
do you ask? I said, well, I don't know. Is
there something there? He goes, well, I think everything is open.
(30:31):
You know, the Rams have done this before where we
don't need draft picks and we're going to get guy
we want to win. You know, that's the approach they
have so that was why I was like, could Matthew
Stafford have been available? And as Tom mentioned, apparently he
could have been. Now I don't know if there was anything,
and he offers any of that, so I don't want
(30:51):
to go too deep into it down the rabbit hole.
But Cooper was available and then we've seen him. I
think he had eleven catches last week and now the
Rams are back in it. So just want to make
sure that I clarify that we're not, you know, giving
too much credence to what they could have done with
Matthew Stafford. I was just this was what I was told,
(31:13):
and Cooper cup was going to be available. All right,
let's go around the room, Todd. You can start your
team with Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning, okay,
seat no Connor.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
At gosh, I was gonna say Peyton Manning, but I
really don't know the whole Peyton Manning was his own offense.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Thing.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Is you want me to come back the screen? No, No,
I just want to talk about this. It feels like
it's more fun when we talk about it rather just
like rip through like four names and then that said.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's done.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Peyton Manning was his own offense, but at the same time,
the Patriots new like at some point he's going to
cough the ball up, so we know we're gonna win.
That's what makes me think it's Aaron Rodgers is the guy.
I'm going with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, Marvin, I'm going with
Aaron Rodgers. Also, do you want to add anything to that?
Since Seaton was able to add to his answer, I.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Think they're one and the same. I just think I
hate saying this, but there's just more arm talent. I
think Aaron Rodgers could just do more than Peyton Manning could.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, Paul Aaron Rodgers Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
It's really close. Aaron Rodgers has half as many career
interceptions as Peyton Manning did, less than half. In the playoffs,
they have this exactly similar record, one over five hundred.
Aaron Rodgers playoff stats are also way better than Aaron
Peyton Manning's. My only hesitation on Rodgers is his demeanor
sometimes with his teammates and his franchise. Peyton seemed all
(32:41):
in to help the team at all points.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
I am going with Aaron Rodgers, though you're going with
Aaron rod I'm going with Aaron. Kay, Yeah, I would
go with Aaron Rodgers. And we didn't find out really
nationally about Aaron Rodgers and how he was. His personality. Now,
there were always people to talking about it that he
you know, he was on his own agenda and it
(33:04):
was all about him.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You know, I got all that.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
There's it's hard to be great without being selfish, and
some of the greatest athletes we've ever had, they're selfish,
but that greatness will spill over to team greatness. You know,
Jordan was selfish and then he learned that you can't
be selfish and he took less money. They brought in people,
(33:29):
you know, Kobe's Kobe mean, you know, Mamba mentality spilled
over to a team in how they played, you know,
magic with what he was doing, and that personality spilling over.
Bird probably not the easiest guy to get along with
with the Celtics, but the way he played, how he played,
everybody else had to pick up their game. So you
(33:49):
see that sometimes where yes, Rogers could he be difficult,
yet we're seeing more of that now. Back then he
was making every throw that I mean, we look at Mahomes. Now,
Rogers was Mahomes before Mahomes. As far as talent, you know,
the throws that he had, being nimble, getting extra yards,
(34:10):
making tough throws, game on the line. That's the quarterback
you wanted. Peyton did change the NFL. He changed the
NFL when you think about your calling plays at the
line of scrimmage. He was the offensive coordinator and doing
it didn't have you know, that much postseason success, but
(34:32):
he was awesome. He was awesome to think that he's
doing all of that. Bill Cowherd talked about it yesterday.
He'd be on the sidelines and Peyton would be like,
all right, that there, that's there. And then Bill Cowers said,
and he realized exactly what we were doing. No other
quarterback had done that before. All right, well take a break.
Play of the Day up next.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP, Oh my God,
The Play of the.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Day, Cutter, Lipsy go.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Play.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Check this out. The Big White turn Weenburt cuts his
way in, Wentburt to the.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
Time.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's courtesy of NBC Sports, California. Since losing nine straight
to start the season, why Sharks.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Have now won four of their last five. That's your
play of the day.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Play of the day brought to you by Express Employment
Professionals helping you hire your next pro. Forget about posting jobs,
sifting through resumes, interviews with unqualified applicants. Move up to
the pros expresspros dot com find the location nearest you. Seaton,
would you update the poll results from the first forty
nine minutes of the program?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I sure?
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Or who would you start your team with? Aaron Rodgers
or Peyton Manning? These are to me, what are shocking results?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, all shocking.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I would bet Manning has at least seventy five percent.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Of the vote.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Recncy bias ninety two percent of the audience right now
we're voting for Pete ninety two.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That would be a recentcy bias of how Aaron Rodgers
has played. Peyton hadn't played in a long time. I
hadn't played in a long time. All right, let me
see get some phone calls in here. Amanda in Michigan
leads us off. Good morning, Amanda. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Hedp, How are you saying average, average, excellent. Well, I
was calling because I wanted to wish my husband, who
is probably sitting on a meeting not listening at the moment,
a very happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And his name is his name is Ryan, Ryan. Happy
by Wie. There you go, man. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
You guys the best.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Thank you all right, every day super Bowl trying to
raise morale one person every time Ryan in a meeting
didn't even hear his birthday greeting Curtis in Illinois, Hi,
Curtis Warner DP.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
Kind of a conspiracy theory I throughout there for you,
since you announced your retirement on December twenty fourth of
twenty twenty seven, it sets up you to be take
about a three month vacation and then immediately hit the
campaign trail for Dan Patrick twenty twenty eight, which the
follow up question of who are you taking with you?
Because I think time for it would make one of
(37:54):
the best press secretaries.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You could have.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
What would your guys' roles be in the White House?
Todd is the press secretary, I could put.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
A spin on things, I could play with words.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I would hope MM put you in a good light
no matter what.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
You're you're putting that dude in front of the public
on a daily basis, in front of the media.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I would talk so much it I'll be like, no
more questions, we gotta go.
Speaker 10 (38:17):
We don't have time for any fo.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You would you would fill a buster, you would, you
would be good at that. You would only call on
female reporters that Yeah, true, I would hold my hand
up for thirty minutes. Yeah, I'll get to you. Maybe
a blonde from the Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
What do you got? What role? Were roles would you
guys play in?
Speaker 9 (38:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
In my White House? Uh? So, Fritzie is my press secretary? Seeton?
What do you want to head up here?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Man? That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Can you want to be an ambassador? Oh? I could
handle being an ambassador?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Okay, I want to go secretary of State, chief of staff,
secretary has dates something good?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Man.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I'm I mean I'll take the you know, ambassador to
Ireland or Italy or something like that. I'll do that
all day, frantic. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Let's roll Marvin. What role would you like in my
White House? You know what secret service? Oh? You're going
to be heading up my secret service? Look, I can
spot sketch people.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know, Wow, that's a shot at Todd PAULI but roll, let's.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
See Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of the Interior. I don't
know what Secretary of the Interior actually does, so that
might be perfect.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Do they have a secretary of the extraterior?
Speaker 4 (39:37):
No, and you got to take care of that house.
You can't just powerwash it.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I know.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah, I would say I think i'd be a good
vice president living off Oh oh wow, don't they live
at the naval base. You're ready, but you can you
can go do the dignitary things.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well, I didn't know that you were going to be
my vice president.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
I'll give you feedback and throw things in there.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But hmmm, okay, it'll be a fun roll.
Speaker 10 (40:01):
Yes, I could say Paul ahead of travel and wardrobe
and flannel and all that stuff too, because he's always
you know.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But I don't think they don't have a head of wardrobe.
You're the president.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
You create your own positions.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Be chief of staff, don't. I don't want somebody to
know that I have a chief of wardrobe. That probably
doesn't seem like. Maybe that's what politics is missing.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Wardrobe, A little more wardrobe a little more focus on wardrobe, Daniel,
a little more flannel.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm looking at the White House cabinet. There is not
a director of wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Okay, all right, one hour in the books.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Two more to go on this Wednesday, twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Let's go, let's go. Yeah, Robert Griffin Junior, the third
is going to join us, going up here in about
twenty five minutes. More of your phone calls as well.
We're just getting started. Got a few things to get to,
including the NFL October VP in or out, and we'll
talk about the college football playoff rankings that came out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Hour two on the way
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.