November 6, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan loves Golden State Warriors HC Steve Kerr’s anticipation of the reception he will receive tonight in Boston after he left Jaylen Brown off the Olympic roster over the summer. And former NFL QB Robert Griffin III drops by to break down the winners and losers at the NFL trade deadline.
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Commanders get Marshawn Lattimore, which is a big pickup for them.
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Steelers get wide receiver Mike Williams. Kind of a quiet
trade deadline. First college football rankings released. We'll talk about
that a little bit. We will talk to Robert Griffin
junior third. He'll stop buying about twenty minutes show. Hey,
Otani shoulder surgery and it's not a dislocation as I think.
We first thought, this is a torn laborum and by
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all accounts should be ready for spring training. It's one
of those that I could advise him on this since
I've had torn laboram and if he does.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Call Todd put him through, I'll do that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't know if we need an interpreter for me
to help him with the torn laborum, but I will
say it was about a month where I wasn't fun
to be around, Not like rotator cuff. Rotator cuff is
a little bit longer than that, but torn laboram, as
most grave athletes do. You get through it, and it'll
probably take him a month and he'll be ready for
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spring training.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
You've had the laborum pains.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh, I see with that?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, all right, all right, you've started off pretty well today.
The Kevin Harlan if he was covering the election last night,
you had that last hour that was pretty good.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
This is the road to the White House, so in
Westwood one.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
And you start off with a good play on words there. Yeah,
you're doing well, doing well, Pole question, play of the day.
We've got stat of the day, all of that forthcoming,
and your phone calls eight seven to seven three DP
show Seaton Pole question for hour two is going to
be one.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Oh brother, are you sure you want to hear these?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Are you sure you're ready?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is this the Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers one? Are we
getting rid of that one since it's a runaway?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
No way, Let's see how lopsided it can get. Well,
let's see. Here's one for you. Here's a new one
for hour two from the mind of Paul Papps. Okay,
team that nobody really liked in August that I think
can do some damage in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Little wordy?
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Okay, how about the Washington Commanders?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
How about the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Hmm?
Speaker 7 (03:01):
How about the Arizona Cardinals? How about the Minnesota Viking?
Anyone else? You Falcons that they didn't make the list? Sorry,
I'm just throwing them out.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Falcons Commanders were of the my two surprise teams. Of
course I picked that you has to go to the
Super Bowl surprise.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Here's the one that might be slightly related to that
pole question. Okay, this one's from Gary on the Twitter.
Oh NFL team that is October rated.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So jealous?
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Sorry, Paul, I knew that this is I should have
warned your first toted NFL team that is October rated.
That's a good team, that's a team with a good record,
but they're not really a good team. Should have maybe
should have seen that one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Come oh, but you only have one good eye.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I would say the Denver Broncos can I I
have them on my list, Denver Broncos, I would say
October rated. How about the Cardinals? They're my Cardinals, they're not.
They might be October rated though, maybe they could be.
That was my other choice, but I couldn't say the Cardinals.
After yesterday I said, hey, I'm in on the Cardinals,
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your Falcons, I'm in on the phone.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
October rated.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Do you think they're real?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah? Yeah, they're They're for real.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Okay, well they're going to stay on the pole. Question though,
just because it's fine be a hater, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
How about my.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Los Angeles Chargers? Are they October rated?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
They might be?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
They might be.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Good defense. I don't know. I'm going to say a
smidge October rated.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Anyone else?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, Todd? What about the Houston Texans in a weak
AFC South?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Are we a little too excited about them?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Are we not expecting a lot from c J.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Strad and the guys.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh no, people expected a lot. They thought that that's
a af A title contender.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
It's a very weak division. I think they might be
October rated.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't think they'd make the playoffs, so
I faded them.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
You faded them?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I did. But I thought Jacksonville was gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Why I don't know, because they went all in the
off season. They spent money and now here we go. Here,
you know you're gonna see the real Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yes see.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Would you'd rather whiff on a team that you thought
was gonna be good but ended up stinking or a
team you thought was gonna stink but ended up being good.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, I whiffed on a team I thought was gonna
be really good in the Jets. Yeah, I'd rather whiff
on a team that I thought was gonna be bad
that turned out to be good, because then it's a
feel good story as opposed to the Jets, where.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's not well.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
I think my Super Bowl hot take, I think we
did a Super Bowl hot take segment, and mine was
the Cowboys over the Bengals in the Super Bowl as
a that was my Super Bowl hot take with the
Cowboys and winning the Super Bowl. Okay, and they're terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well, they got three wins.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Which I don't think is good enough to get you there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
A couple of phone calls in here. Joe ellenb got
suspended for three games. I still think his punishment should
be he has to play three games, Like, I can't
sit you for three games until you play at least
three games. Here that he pushed a reporter, so they
decided that they were going to punish him by having
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him set out. We got basketball with the Warriors and
the Celtics. Is that coming up tonight, Marvion, Yes, sir, Okay,
Warriors are getting seven against the Celtics. I think the
Warriors are the team to beat in the West.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I said it. The Warriors are.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now. The last time I said this, they won the title.
I'm declaring the Warriors of the team to beat out West.
I like that they got some younger players there. You
still have Steph, you still have Draymon in there, and
you got Steve Kerr. Well, what kind of reception do
you think Steve Kerr is going to get in Boston?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Here is the head coach of the Warriors.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
I'm excited. I think the fans are really going to
cheer for me because you know what I did this
past summer. I played Drew Holliday and Derek White a
ton and given that both guys are Celtics, and the
fact that you know Tatum also played a huge role
in the proceedings, all three guys major fact, we won
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the gold medal. This is America, it's the day after
election Day. I think Celtic fans are going to welcome
me with open arms and just to maybe even like
Bouquets snarky.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Great, but he's right because he is going to hear
nothing but booze, Hey, you played the other Celtics. You
didn't take the one Celtic and Jalen Brown and Jason
Tatum just won a title and he didn't get to
play much in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oo. But I do think this could be a finals preview.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I do like the Warriors a lot, probably more than
I should right now, but I do like what I'm
seeing some other games coming up tonight. You got Heat
and Sons, OKC, Nuggets, Lakers getting one against Memphis, and
Spurs Rockets. My Rockets against the Spurs. Also the Magic
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without Hollow Van Cairo facing the Pacers. So we have
some basketball coming up tonight. And also a college football
it's action again. It's Ohio against Kent State, Northern Illinois
versus Western Michigan. A couple of phone calls David san Antonio, Hi, Dave,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Danet?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I'm back.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
I love the major prediction, Dan, the Warriors in the West,
obviously the Calves in the East meeting up with the
Warriors who are making that prediction. I'd just like to
say the last time the.
Speaker 10 (09:31):
Calves have been eight to oh was in nineteen seventy six,
seventy seven season. A little small group called the Queens
came out with a song called we Are the Champions
in seventy seven, and I'm thinking of destiny, Dan, So
I'm gonna double down, wow with my pie in the
face with Marvin and I'm gonna say you take a
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pie also, Dan, once the Calves win the finals, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Uh sure, yeah, sure, Who's who's blasting you with pies?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Dave? Because you got a couple of them.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Well, I've got I've got six kids, Dan, so.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Uh around good.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I love that, all right, Dave, we were talking about
the uh Draymond Green. So Golden State played Washington and
that meant Jordan Poole Draymond Green back on the court
when they were teammates.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Draymond dropped him and knocked him out.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Something was said during practice, and uh, they were kind
of jawing against at each other during that game. But
Draymond uses one word to describe Jordan Poole, and it
begins with a B, and he kept saying that to
Jordan Pool. Jordan Poole played pretty well and I don't
think anybody has ever disputed that. But whatever happened behind
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the scenes when those two were at Golden State, I'd
love to know, because if you go back and watch
that video, no one came to the aid of Jordan Poole.
Steph has got his back to, you know, the punch,
and nobody reacts like, oh hey, wait a minute, let
me separate you two guys. The the hatred, the vitriol,
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the disdain, whatever it was that Draymond Green had for
Jordan Poole, it felt like it permeated through the team
because you hit a teammate. You knock a teammate out
and it's not like Golden State and the franchise. They're like, oh,
that's embarrassing. We got to get rid of Draymond. It
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was like, oh, what happened in practice today? Not much,
you know, we worked on this. Oh dmon, Draymond knocked
down Jordan Poole. Oh okay, so nothing really happened. No, no, no,
and then he gets traded to Washington, which is mean spirited.
We're really angry at you. You let your face take
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that punch. You're going to Washington. Let me see Jason
in Indiana. Hi, Jason, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (12:07):
Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Guys?
Speaker 11 (12:09):
First of all, I just want to tell you I
love your show. Longtime fan, first time caller. Five eleven
s by the way, So, uh, my buddy and I
hear at work were an otter hell were cleaning. So
we wanted to find something that distracted us from our health,
and we started talking about, you know, sports and quarterbacks.
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So the question I asked, and we were hashing back
and forth, is what do you think is the greatest
talent that was wasted by a franchise as far as
a quarterback, goes, well, we were just on the subject
of football, so we were talking quarterback. But then I'm
twenty years older than him, so then I mentioned Barry Sanders,
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and then we got on the subject to Andrew Luck.
So we were just sticking kind of with the football.
But I was just curious what you guys thought were
the biggest wasted talents and sports by franchise.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So you had a great talent, you didn't surround him,
you didn't produce or like JaMarcus Russell was a great
talent at least we thought, and he turned out to
be a bust. I guess you could look at it
a couple of different ways. I mean, the Lions did
have a little bit of talent around Barry Sanders. They
made the playoffs. I thought what happened to Andrew Luck
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was malpractice because you're going to spend all this money
on him and yet a terrible offensive line. And I
kept saying, you're going to drive the guy out of
the NFL because the NFL was a job for him.
I don't know, it felt like Andrew Luck was going
to do different things once he got out of the game.
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He got beat up, and then the fact that you
got good and he walked away. He was just tired
of being banged up. So I would say, considering that
he was on the fast track to be a whole
famed quarterback, that would be somebody that I would start
with Barry Sanders. The fact that Barry never got injured.
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I don't remember him ever being injured, and well you
couldn't hit him, Like, do you ever remember somebody going, man,
did they put a lick on Barry Sanders? I'm sure
they did it just he was able to survive and
they became relevant just because people tuned in to watch
him play.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Yes, Pauline, Yeah, Barry Sanders only missed I got him
at only missing six games and ten years due to injury.
The other quarterback I throw this is really obvious, but
when David Carr was selected out of Fresno State by
the Texans, he could play. He was a very good
drop back passer. There's no doubt he could have worked
out in this league if he didn't get just lit
up his first couple of years by that fra by
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that offensive line.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That didn't help him out.
Speaker 12 (14:51):
I mean two thousand and two in Houston, he was
sex seventy six times.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, he would have made.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It, I thought, And I remember having lunch with him
in New Orleans and it might have been at the
Super Bowl, and you could just see it like, that's
not the way he thought his rookie season was going
to go.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And to get sack seventy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Six times, it sounds almost impossible to do, but he did.
And he never recovered from that, because that's when they
take away your confidence. Quarterback has step on the field
and have confidence, but you go back to pass and
you're like, it's not a question of if, but when
I'm going to get sacked? All right, let me take
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a break. Got more phone calls to come up. Coming up,
we'll talk about the college football rankings. They came out
and it's weird to see BYU as one of the
top four teams that they would have a first round
by wild All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
RG three will join us next.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
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Speaker 2 (16:03):
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Always got the black cowboy hat on You got a
Sean Taylor throwback jersey as well.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Hey man, I appreciate you having me on the show.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
How you doing, brother good?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
What's the black cowboy hat?
Speaker 13 (16:27):
For?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Black cowboy hat?
Speaker 14 (16:30):
Honestly, I just I've been wearing it for a few
months now, being at home creating content, you know, connecting
with the fans.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
So just felt like.
Speaker 15 (16:38):
It was it was time to bring the cowboy hat
on the Dan.
Speaker 14 (16:41):
Patrick Show, especially with a lot of the stuff that's
going on in the league right now.
Speaker 15 (16:45):
I just I just felt very cowboy ish, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, but it feels like you're anti cowboy if you're
wearing the black hat.
Speaker 14 (16:52):
I mean, I did play for the Washington Commanders. I
wouldn't say I'm anti cowboy. I just like to live
in reality. And we all know who the biggest loser
of the trade deadline were and who was that?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Oh it's Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 14 (17:06):
Then for the Cowboys to come away with Jonathan Mingo,
who I love Jonathan Mingo, the player was very high
on him coming out and think that he can still
be a great contributor in the NFL. But for them
to give up a fourth round pick to get him.
When the kans City Chiefs gave up a fifth rounder
to get seven times, I think it was thousand yard
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receiver DeAndre Hopkins, the Ravens gave up a fifth round
pick to get Deontay Johnson. Who else gave up some
picks to get a receiver?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It was.
Speaker 14 (17:38):
Oh, the Steelers gave up a fifth round pick to
get Mike Williams. Now, everyone will say, hey, those guys
are older expiring contracts, But every single NFL executive that
I talked to told me that it was a bad
deal for the Cowboys to give up so much to
get Jonathan Mingo. So when we talked about the Cowboys
in the offseason, it was, Hey, they're all in, and
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I just understand how they're making these moves now that
their quarterback is on ir did Dak Prescott not being available,
and they think that this move signing or trading for
Jonathan Mingo is gonna make their fan base believing what
they're doing.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
It's not.
Speaker 15 (18:14):
It's gonna make everybody rebel and continue to.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Laugh at the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Would you make of the Commanders in what they did
with Marshaun Lattimore.
Speaker 14 (18:23):
I mean, it was just It's glorious to me. It
was the stamp of approval for Adam Peters being the
NFL Executive of the year. I think he's been making
win move after when move. From the very beginning of
the offseason. You talk about bringing in offensive production that's
veteran led with zach Ertzitt tight end and Austin Eckler
at running back. Noah Brown, a late pickups was their
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leading receiver last week. And then you also talk about
what he did on the defense side of the ball,
bringing in Bobby Wagner to make him the centerpiece of
the Commander's defense with Dan Quinn essentially running that defense
in the style that both of them know together. Bringing
in Dante Fowler Junior, who's playing out of his mind.
Frankie Louvo has also added an identity to that defense.
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Into that locker room, Adam Peters has made move after move,
including drafting Jayden Daniels that has put Washington position to
win this year. He basically turned Jahadan Dotson into Marshaun Lattimore.
I don't know how you couldn't say that at this
point in the season. This guy is the executive of
the year and I'm just so happy for the team.
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I'm happy for the fans. The fans in Washington, DC
deserve this type of winner at seven and two, and
it further proves my point of what I made earlier
this year about them being the best situation for a
young quarterback because coaching matters and structure matters, and they
have all of that lockdown right now.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I can't argue with what he's done and the
pieces that he's had. I would probably push back and say,
Brett Beach with the Chiefs is I mean, they lose
players and he just plugs and plays. Man, they plug
and play and they play well. I Mean, anybody could
have had these guys and they bring them in and
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that's why if you're looking at an MVP, it wouldn't
be Patrick Mahomes, it would be Andy Reid and Brett Beach.
With what they're doing with this talent, I think it's
been incredible.
Speaker 14 (20:21):
Yeah, Dan, it's been nothing short of amazing, and they're
trying to accomplish something different. If we were giving away,
the Executive of the Year away at the end of
the season. I think we could all agree that if
the kans City Chiefs three peete for the first time
in NFL history, then yeah, it goes to Brett Veach.
I think from the Commander's point of view, it's more
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of where they came from. The Chiefs have already been
at the top and are staying at the top. The
Commanders have forced their way to seven and two in
a year where people didn't even think they would be
contenders in their own division, and right now they're leading
that division. But to speak of the Kansas City Chiefs,
I mean the move they made, I do think they're
the You know, obviously I'm wearing the Commander's jersey or
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Reskins jersey. You know fans out there, I still want
that name back, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 15 (21:08):
I'm wearing the Commander's jersey.
Speaker 14 (21:10):
But I fully understand that the Kansas City Chiefs are
the team that won the trade deadline because they brought
in DeAndre Hopkins. He's a receiver that helps them get
closer to that three peat because it gives them two
chain movers on offense. You saw what Kelsey did this
past week fourteen catches one hundred yards. Having DeAndre Hopkins
there allows Mahomes to continue to have this this moment
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of like his BS meter like not his BS meter,
his his I don't give a shit meter is off
the radar. Right now, he's throwing a bunch of interceptions.
You saw the throw that he made down the field
of DeAndre Hopkins. To make that catch, that's trust. And
when you've had a receiver for two weeks and you're
already doing those types of things. I completely understand why
d Hopp is posting pictures of Randy Moss and Tom
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Brady because these two could have that impact.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He SRG three. You can check out his podcast, Out
of Pocket with RG three. It's available on YouTube wherever
you get your podcast. We stumbled upon this question that
you probably didn't think you would be answering today. You
can start your team with Peyton Manning O or Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Man.
Speaker 14 (22:17):
I mean, I'm starting with Peyton Manning. I like all
these guys, you know, I think Peyton Manning's with the
greatest ever. I think Aaron Rodgers is one of the
greatest ever. I think for me, when you're building a team,
you want to build the culture, and I think that
Peyton Manning, over the course of his career had less
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issues with the media in the locker room, and I
think that part of it would make you pick Peyton Manning.
From a talent perspective, no, I believe that Aaron Rodgers
is overtly more talented than Peyton was. But when it
comes to their personalities, when you think of Peyton Manning,
you think of commercials and him being funny, his massive forehead,
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whatever you want to think about, right, But when you
think of Aaron Rodgers, if you go negative, it's some
of the locker room distractions. It's the darkness, retreats, it's
the missing of of you know, offseason workouts at times,
even though I didn't have a problem with that this
past offseason because he was there every single day for
all the other days of the offseason. So I would
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just say their their ability to manage the media is
something that is a big deal when it comes to
being a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So I would I would started with Payton Manny.
Speaker 14 (23:35):
If I threw Brady in there, yeah, I mean I'd
go it's all Brady. I don't think guy's got seven rates.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'm just I'm just looking at if we just did talent.
Oh yeah, Aaron's got to be the most talented quarterback
who's probably ever played.
Speaker 14 (23:53):
I would disagree just because of Patrick Mahomes, just because
of Mahomes, and I don't think that's Recncy biased.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I think that he's.
Speaker 14 (23:59):
Proved over the career, the years of his career, that
he is the most talented quarterback we have ever seen.
He can do everything Rogers does, he can do everything
Manning does, and he can do everything Brady does. And
he's on track to to go break Brady's record of
Super Bowl championships. So I would say it's Mahomes, But
after that, I think Aaron is certainly within the top five.
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There's some guys that Michael Vick, you know, one of
the most talented quarterbacks ever accomplished.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
No, yeah, Aaron's more accomplished.
Speaker 14 (24:29):
But there's some guys out there that have been super
talented that maybe haven't put up the same numbers as Aaron.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The college football playoffs, the brackets came out, yep, and
I love the fact that you got Indiana against Tennessee,
Boise State, Ohio State, Alabama, Texas opening round, Notre Dame,
Penn State, and then you can't help but notice waiting
in the quarterfinals is BYU.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Here.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
People are gonna they're gonna lose their minds if you
have Texas or Alabama, these schools the blue bloods, and
BYU is there waiting. They would be waiting for the
winner of Boise State in Ohio State in the quarterfinals.
What do you make of the first showing of the rankings.
Speaker 14 (25:16):
I just think what you just mentioned, Dan is exactly
why it didn't matter if it was four teams, twelve teams,
or thirty two teams. People are always going to have
a problem with whatever the end result ends up becoming.
BYU's earned that spot to be and have have a
bye week with the way that they've played, and no one.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Should be upset about that.
Speaker 14 (25:38):
The beauty to me of the twelve team playoff is
the fact that we're going to see matchups that we
traditionally wouldn't see at higher stakes, not in the regular season,
not the first week of the season. But these are
going to give teams like a Boise State with Aston genty,
who is the leader for the Heisman Trophy right now,
despite popular opinion or the waves of support behind other players.
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This guy's on pace to break Barry Sanders rushing record,
which is unheard of. So I want to see those matchups.
Even if it is against one of the vaunted blue
blood programs. They still have to go out and earn
that week in week out in the college football playoff
when the stakes are at their highest. A couple of
years ago, who saw TCU with Max Duggan having an
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opportunity to play for a national championship. Yeah, I don't
think anybody did, so I think that's the beauty of it.
College football is getting closer and closer to March Madness.
We just can't have that many games because obviously these
kids can't play a thirty game season.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think we're eventually going to get to the NFL model,
and I think you're going to have these teams that
are on the West coast. So the Pac twelve teams
now in the Big Ten, they're going to be playing
regional again. So we're going to go back to this
eventually where you'll have teams in the Midwest, teams in
East Southeast.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And if you just like the NFL and you're.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Gonna be playing each other twice and then you'll play
you know, the the Midwest. One year, it'll be it'll
be that model. I think we'll have, you know, maybe
forty teams, and you know there's gonna be revenue sharing
and everything that goes along with that. What was the
most money What was the best offer you got from
a school coming out of high school?
Speaker 14 (27:22):
I mean they were not paying when I was playing, Okay,
because Dan, if they were paying when I was playing,
you know, my family is financially secure and very well off,
but the amount of money that we'd demanded to bring
in at that time would have been astronomical. I will
tell you a story, though, I did get pranked one
time one of my offensive linemen. We were about to
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play Texas A and M my my freshman year big
rival obviously Baylor and AM don't play anymore, but a
big rivalry at the time, right down the road from
each other, and he told me, hey, you know, last
time last year, when we won this game, I came
back to my apartment and there was like fifty thousand
bucks in a duck out front of my apartment. And
I'm like, okay, He's like, hey, man, if we win
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this game, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened to you.
So we go, we win the game. You know, I
throw for like three touchdowns. We're balling out. We blow
them out. I literally sprinted back to my apartment, Dan,
I was so ready to see that duffel bag of
fifty K. And when I got back to my point
my apartment, my offensive lineman was was sitting in the
parking lot in this truck laughing.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
There was the funniest thing for me.
Speaker 14 (28:29):
But, like I always tell people, if you think that
you would not have taken money if it was offered
to you, especially when if you're a kid like myself
who wasn't well off, you're lying to yourself. That's not
a moral thing. A lot of the guys that talk
on TV, you know that were players. They took money
in their time. But I didn't get any of those offers.
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And if I did, obviously we probably wouldn't be talking
about it. But I didn't get any offers, unfortunately, And
that's just being honest. We've got to be honest with
each other here.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Know, I'm just surprised that nobody's offering you like a car.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No no, no car offer.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
No car offer.
Speaker 14 (29:09):
The only offer I ever got that was material was
like a job to like go work at a law
firm because I went to school for political science and
that was my degree. That's what I got my undergrad
degree in. So one school had like offered me a
job at a law firm in the in the off
season or in the summer.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Which is also illegal. It was illegal at the time.
Speaker 14 (29:30):
So I turned that down because I didn't want to
lose my eligibility. But I didn't get any car offers
or anything like that. Now I'm not saying I am
not saying that there aren't some people that I know
that did, but I am not going to snitch on them.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
What's the best offer? You don't have to mention a
name like this guy got taken care of.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
He got what.
Speaker 14 (29:51):
Oh, they were making five hundred thousand dollars a year,
So when whenever?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
When? When? Back then?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Back then? So yeah, back then. So I was two.
Speaker 14 (30:03):
That was two thousand and eight when I came out,
So back then they were making five hundred thousand a year.
This was not at Baylor, by the way, No one
at Baylor. The compliance the compliance team at Baylor top notch.
I got a free pizza one time, and they made
me go back and pay for the pizza. Okay, So
I don't know how they even found out I got
the free pizza, but they found out I got the
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free pizza.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But imagine the Ohio State guys with Terrell Pryor where
they're trading gear for tattoos like nowadays. Like if you
say that nowadays, you're like, wait a minute, they got
in trouble for that.
Speaker 14 (30:36):
Yeah, and their coach got fired. Jim Tressel, Yes, you're
spot on. And the thing about it is, it's so
crazy when I hear people talk about the wild wild
West that college football is. It's always been the wild
wild West. It's now just legal and people can be
more forthcoming and they can track that information with nil
earnings that not everybody loves. But understand that what you
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see now in the forefront was happening behind the scenes
at a lot of major and massive, blue blood programs
well before it became public.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Good to talk to you again, Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
God bless RG three out of pocket his podcast RG
three on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, I
love you know that people are now hearing these totals
of what players are getting and it's not a big deal.
It's like, oh, that guy's getting a million dollars, but
before you were getting half of that. But it was
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all undercover. I mean it was, you know, in the
shadows Jim Bags. I remember what was it Tulane basketball
where they had a big man, Oh, what's his name.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Played in the end.
Speaker 12 (31:53):
Keith Lee, No John Williams, Williams for Tulane.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, Keith Lee was Memphis, I think, okay, yeah, Keith
Lee Memphi.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But I remember there was an article where he was
getting just a duffel back or shoe boxes full of money.
Shoe boxes full of money, like hey, here's a new
pair of Adidas. Wow, I'm going to put these on.
Wink wink, open it up and you got twenty five
or fifty k in there?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yes, Mark, That's like when Ole miss had a great
recruiting class one year with the Quan Treadwell. Oh yeah,
we were like wait Candichi, Yeah, like they weren't form Mississippi.
Somebody was from like Illinois, Wait, how did you get
down here?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, that's like when the guys got to Kansas State
to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Michael Michael Beasley, A lovely place, Michael Beasley.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's like, Hey, Michael Beasley's going to Manhattan, Kansas.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
What of oj Mayo?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
How could that be possible? Things that make you go hmmm.
Take a break back after this.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Be sure to catch the live and of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Get a couple of phone calls here once again. Sunday night,
it'll be the Lions and the Texans. That's It's seven
eastern on NBC and Peacock. I do love this college
football playoff, the projected bracket that came out last night.
Just the fact that you have Boise State and Ohio State, Indiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas,
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Notre Dame, Penn State. That's how we would start the
playoffs if the season ended, and then BYU in the quarterfinals, Oregon,
Miami and Georgia in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
There's gonna be people who won't like the fact that BYU,
if BYU wins its conference, will have a ticket to
the quarterfinals. There's gonna be no matter what, there is
no full proof playoff where you go, you know what
the best teams are there. I don't know how many
times we do this in college basketball, where we go,
you know, those aren't the two best teams. But in
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college football we do. You know, people had doubts about TCU,
like are they any good? Well, they made it to
the championship game. That'd be like when Butler goes to
the title game to play against Duke.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
But we kind of accept it.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
We go, hey, this could be like you know, Hoosiers
where you have a big upset here, and we nearly
had that with Gordon Hayward, Yes, Paulin.
Speaker 12 (34:29):
Yeah, BYU getting that advanced bid. It's almost like the NFL.
Last year the NFC, the Tampa Bay Bucks had nine
wins and got a home playoff game. Yeah, and their teams.
There's a couple more teams. The Rams had more wins,
the Eagles had more wins. But that's how the divisions are.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But the Big Twelve doesn't have powerhouse football. They don't
have great teams. I mean, it's kind of like the
NFC South, where you go, Okay, somebody's going to win
and represent you know, the conference. Or division and they
get a playoff game of sorts, they get to go
to the quarterfinals. There, let me get a couple of
(35:05):
phone calls in there and Joey and Texas. Hi, Joey,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 13 (35:11):
Hey?
Speaker 16 (35:11):
How's it going down? By ten one night? What's going
on on this show today? Is appalling, disgusting and just
absolutely disrespectful to pay In Manning. Manning is not only
one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, but he
has earned a spot on the Mount Rushmore of the NFL,
college football, and high school football all levels Mount Rushmore
time and time again. Rogers had the easiest path to
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the Super Bowl, and time and time again, he lost
two subpar quarterbacks. He lost to Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 11 (35:39):
Where is he?
Speaker 16 (35:40):
He lost to Jimmy G. Jimmy G only completed eight passes.
That's two passes per quarter in the twenty twenty NFC
Championship Game. That's how much Aaron Rodgers is trashed. He
lost to a broke down Kurt Warner.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
He lost to an.
Speaker 16 (35:52):
Old Tom Brady time and time again. Peyton Manning had
a face tough defenses Steelers the Ravens. He had to
go through Tom Brady, Philip Rivers and those fully loaded Chargers.
And I just want to say this, Aaron Rodgers is
the Allen Iverson of the NFL, just all time talent,
but doesn't capitalize on it. Aaron Rodgers going on that
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darkness retreat is the same thing about Alan Alan Everson
saying practice, practice practice. Aaron Rodgers is just trash. Yes,
he has all this talent, but at the end of
the day, when it's atin and done, what did he do?
He only won one super Bowl? He is the Allen
Iverson of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, Peyton won two, but he does he shouldn't get
credit for the second one.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
He did win one super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
So if we're really gonna be honest about this, we
were talking about the talent of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Now, if you get.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Into who he is in the locker room, yeah, then
you're gonna have a lot of people side with Peyton Manning.
And I certainly understand that, and I would too, But
I was just looking at the talent of Aaron Rodgers.
If you're starting when both of them win their MVPs.
One was twenty seven, one was twenty eight, I don't
think there's a wrong answer.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Maybe there's a more correct answer.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
But you know, if you say the consolation prize is
either one of them, you win.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yes, Marv, I'm sorry that analogy was crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Alan Iverson took one of the worst teams in the
in the history of NBA to the NBA Finals, Eric
snow and olded the Kembai mc tumble, George Lynch, Aaron
McKee and at six feet, one hundred and sixty five pounds,
he came on this show and he said he didn't
want to lift weights because they were heavy. And he's
the only the only person to beat the two thousand
and one Lakers in Game one. I know, Alan Iverson, No, no,
(37:39):
you might want to somebody else, but not Allen Iverson
and Colin Kaepernick went off against the Packers that game.
Yes he did, and that defense was really really good. Yes,
so sorry, stop it go ahead, DP.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Sorry, but the Allen Iverson thing, we won't allow that.
I'm gonna ma tumbo that right.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
In practice if people hear the full cut, if that's
not context, he's not talking. He's talking about his friend.
I had a friend died. Hey, you're talking about practice. Yes,
he wasn't talking about practice. In itself.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yes, although he probably didn't want to practice, but probably
wanted to go to Atlantic City and gamble.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
But yeah, don't bring Iverson in here.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Iverson, with what he did with what he was surrounded with,
is remarkable and I'll never ever have a negative word
to say about Iverson. Whenever I watched him play, certainly
in Philadelphia, he never ever cheated me. He always played hard.
And I was there at that game one between the
Lakers and Sixers, and I said, I can't believe they
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have beaten the Lakers and then they lost four straight
I think, but they were on a roll. Uh, Chris
in Pennsylvania. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Hey? Dan Dennett, how are you? Uh? I'm a big
fan of the San Patrick takes a Gamble podcast. And
I understand Larry's daughter's getting married, I think on Friday, yep.
And I was just wondering, I think you're taking some
of the boys, don't Is there travel arrangements? So are
we all pineling into the car together and maybe maybe
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even doing the podcast on the way.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, we're going to do the podcast tomorrow, I think
tomorrow after the show, and then as soon as the
show ends on Friday, I'm heading down to the Jersey
Shore for Bad Larry's daughter's wedding. But I did say
to Dylan and Shay if they want to go, they
have to make their own travel arrangements. And I'm not
(39:33):
sure if they're serious or not, but I said, go.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
It's all about content here. Chad and Dayton, Hey Chad.
Speaker 13 (39:42):
Hey Dan and the dan As. How are you doing great?
I got two questions for you on this post election day.
Number One, I'm fortunate enough to get through the second time,
which is awesome, And I was just wondering how many
times do I have to get through before I can
put on my resume at Dan Patrick's show contributor. That's
the first one. And the second one is as frustrated
as I am with Jerry Jones and how he runs
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the Cowboys, I can barely be a fan anymore. So
I wanted to know you, Dan Patrick, and all your
years of covering, have you ever gotten so frustrated with
the team that you liked that you said there's no
way I can root for them as long as this GM,
this player, this coach. Have you had to walk away
and frustration over over something like that?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
No, I never did.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I stopped rooting when I became a full time sports
anchor at ESPN. I stop rooting for teams that I
grew up rooting for the Bengals, the Cincinnati Reds because
I have to be fair to all the other fan bases.
But I was never I could be frustrated with the Bengals,
but I never went, man, I'm going to start rooting
for the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Never happened.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Final hour on the way, talk a little bit more
about the college playoff picture here more of your phone
calls as well.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Back after this
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that a little bit. We will talk to Robert Griffin
junior third. He'll stop buying about twenty minutes show. Hey,
Otani shoulder surgery and it's not a dislocation as I think.
We first thought, this is a torn laborum and by
(01:16):
all accounts should be ready for spring training. It's one
of those that I could advise him on this since
I've had torn laboram and if he does.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Call Todd put him through, I'll do that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't know if we need an interpreter for me
to help him with the torn laborum, but I will
say it was about a month where I wasn't fun
to be around, Not like rotator cuff. Rotator cuff is
a little bit longer than that, but torn laboram, as
most grave athletes do. You get through it, and it'll
probably take him a month and he'll be ready for
(01:51):
spring training.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
You've had the laborum pains.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh, I see with that?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, all right, all right, you've started off pretty well today.
The Kevin Harlan if he was covering the election last night,
you had that last hour that was pretty good.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
This is the road to the White House, so in
Westwood one.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
And you start off with a good play on words there. Yeah,
you're doing well, doing well, Pole question, play of the day.
We've got stat of the day, all of that forthcoming,
and your phone calls eight seven to seven three DP
show Seaton Pole question for hour two is going to
be one.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Oh brother, are you sure you want to hear these?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Are you sure you're ready?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is this the Peyton Manning Aaron Rodgers one? Are we
getting rid of that one since it's a runaway?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
No way, Let's see how lopsided it can get. Well,
let's see. Here's one for you. Here's a new one
for hour two from the mind of Paul Papps. Okay,
team that nobody really liked in August that I think
can do some damage in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Little wordy?
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Okay, how about the Washington Commanders?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Okay, all right?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
How about the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Hmm?
Speaker 7 (03:01):
How about the Arizona Cardinals? How about the Minnesota Viking?
Anyone else? You Falcons that they didn't make the list? Sorry,
I'm just throwing them out.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Falcons Commanders were of the my two surprise teams. Of
course I picked that you has to go to the
Super Bowl surprise.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Here's the one that might be slightly related to that
pole question. Okay, this one's from Gary on the Twitter.
Oh NFL team that is October rated.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So jealous?
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Sorry, Paul, I knew that this is I should have
warned your first toted NFL team that is October rated.
That's a good team, that's a team with a good record,
but they're not really a good team. Should have maybe
should have seen that one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Come oh, but you only have one good eye.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I would say the Denver Broncos can I I
have them on my list, Denver Broncos, I would say
October rated. How about the Cardinals? They're my Cardinals, they're not.
They might be October rated though, maybe they could be.
That was my other choice, but I couldn't say the Cardinals.
After yesterday I said, hey, I'm in on the Cardinals,
(04:13):
your Falcons, I'm in on the phone.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
October rated.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Do you think they're real?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah? Yeah, they're They're for real.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Okay, well they're going to stay on the pole. Question though,
just because it's fine be a hater, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
How about my.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Los Angeles Chargers? Are they October rated?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
They might be?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
They might be.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Good defense. I don't know. I'm going to say a
smidge October rated.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Anyone else?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, Todd? What about the Houston Texans in a weak
AFC South?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Are we a little too excited about them?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Are we not expecting a lot from c J.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Strad and the guys.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh no, people expected a lot. They thought that that's
a af A title contender.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
It's a very weak division. I think they might be
October rated.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't think they'd make the playoffs, so
I faded them.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
You faded them?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I did. But I thought Jacksonville was gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Why I don't know, because they went all in the
off season. They spent money and now here we go. Here,
you know you're gonna see the real Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yes see.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Would you'd rather whiff on a team that you thought
was gonna be good but ended up stinking or a
team you thought was gonna stink but ended up being good.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, I whiffed on a team I thought was gonna
be really good in the Jets. Yeah, I'd rather whiff
on a team that I thought was gonna be bad
that turned out to be good, because then it's a
feel good story as opposed to the Jets, where.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's not well.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
I think my Super Bowl hot take, I think we
did a Super Bowl hot take segment, and mine was
the Cowboys over the Bengals in the Super Bowl as
a that was my Super Bowl hot take with the
Cowboys and winning the Super Bowl. Okay, and they're terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Well, they got three wins.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Which I don't think is good enough to get you there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
A couple of phone calls in here. Joe ellenb got
suspended for three games. I still think his punishment should
be he has to play three games, Like, I can't
sit you for three games until you play at least
three games. Here that he pushed a reporter, so they
decided that they were going to punish him by having
(06:48):
him set out. We got basketball with the Warriors and
the Celtics. Is that coming up tonight, Marvion, Yes, sir, Okay,
Warriors are getting seven against the Celtics. I think the
Warriors are the team to beat in the West.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I said it. The Warriors are.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now. The last time I said this, they won the title.
I'm declaring the Warriors of the team to beat out West.
I like that they got some younger players there. You
still have Steph, you still have Draymon in there, and
you got Steve Kerr. Well, what kind of reception do
you think Steve Kerr is going to get in Boston?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Here is the head coach of the Warriors.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
I'm excited. I think the fans are really going to
cheer for me because you know what I did this
past summer. I played Drew Holliday and Derek White a
ton and given that both guys are Celtics, and the
fact that you know Tatum also played a huge role
in the proceedings, all three guys major fact, we won
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the gold medal. This is America, it's the day after
election Day. I think Celtic fans are going to welcome
me with open arms and just to maybe even like
Bouquets snarky.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Great, but he's right because he is going to hear
nothing but booze, Hey, you played the other Celtics. You
didn't take the one Celtic and Jalen Brown and Jason
Tatum just won a title and he didn't get to
play much in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oo. But I do think this could be a finals preview.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I do like the Warriors a lot, probably more than
I should right now, but I do like what I'm
seeing some other games coming up tonight. You got Heat
and Sons, OKC, Nuggets, Lakers getting one against Memphis, and
Spurs Rockets. My Rockets against the Spurs. Also the Magic
(08:51):
without Hollow Van Cairo facing the Pacers. So we have
some basketball coming up tonight. And also a college football
it's action again. It's Ohio against Kent State, Northern Illinois
versus Western Michigan. A couple of phone calls David san Antonio, Hi, Dave,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (09:13):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Danet?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So I'm back.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
I love the major prediction, Dan, the Warriors in the West,
obviously the Calves in the East meeting up with the
Warriors who are making that prediction. I'd just like to
say the last time the.
Speaker 10 (09:31):
Calves have been eight to oh was in nineteen seventy six,
seventy seven season. A little small group called the Queens
came out with a song called we Are the Champions
in seventy seven, and I'm thinking of destiny, Dan, So
I'm gonna double down, wow with my pie in the
face with Marvin and I'm gonna say you take a
(09:53):
pie also, Dan, once the Calves win the finals, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Uh sure, yeah, sure, Who's who's blasting you with pies?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Dave? Because you got a couple of them.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Well, I've got I've got six kids, Dan, so.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Uh around good.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I love that, all right, Dave, we were talking about
the uh Draymond Green. So Golden State played Washington and
that meant Jordan Poole Draymond Green back on the court
when they were teammates.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Draymond dropped him and knocked him out.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Something was said during practice, and uh, they were kind
of jawing against at each other during that game. But
Draymond uses one word to describe Jordan Poole, and it
begins with a B, and he kept saying that to
Jordan Pool. Jordan Poole played pretty well and I don't
think anybody has ever disputed that. But whatever happened behind
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the scenes when those two were at Golden State, I'd
love to know, because if you go back and watch
that video, no one came to the aid of Jordan Poole.
Steph has got his back to, you know, the punch,
and nobody reacts like, oh hey, wait a minute, let
me separate you two guys. The the hatred, the vitriol,
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the disdain, whatever it was that Draymond Green had for
Jordan Poole, it felt like it permeated through the team
because you hit a teammate. You knock a teammate out
and it's not like Golden State and the franchise. They're like, oh,
that's embarrassing. We got to get rid of Draymond. It
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was like, oh, what happened in practice today? Not much,
you know, we worked on this. Oh dmon, Draymond knocked
down Jordan Poole. Oh okay, so nothing really happened. No, no, no,
and then he gets traded to Washington, which is mean spirited.
We're really angry at you. You let your face take
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that punch. You're going to Washington. Let me see Jason
in Indiana. Hi, Jason, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (12:07):
Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Guys?
Speaker 11 (12:09):
First of all, I just want to tell you I
love your show. Longtime fan, first time caller. Five eleven
s by the way, So, uh, my buddy and I
hear at work were an otter hell were cleaning. So
we wanted to find something that distracted us from our health,
and we started talking about, you know, sports and quarterbacks.
(12:32):
So the question I asked, and we were hashing back
and forth, is what do you think is the greatest
talent that was wasted by a franchise as far as
a quarterback, goes, well, we were just on the subject
of football, so we were talking quarterback. But then I'm
twenty years older than him, so then I mentioned Barry Sanders,
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and then we got on the subject to Andrew Luck.
So we were just sticking kind of with the football.
But I was just curious what you guys thought were
the biggest wasted talents and sports by franchise.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So you had a great talent, you didn't surround him,
you didn't produce or like JaMarcus Russell was a great
talent at least we thought, and he turned out to
be a bust. I guess you could look at it
a couple of different ways. I mean, the Lions did
have a little bit of talent around Barry Sanders. They
made the playoffs. I thought what happened to Andrew Luck
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was malpractice because you're going to spend all this money
on him and yet a terrible offensive line. And I
kept saying, you're going to drive the guy out of
the NFL because the NFL was a job for him.
I don't know, it felt like Andrew Luck was going
to do different things once he got out of the game.
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He got beat up, and then the fact that you
got good and he walked away. He was just tired
of being banged up. So I would say, considering that
he was on the fast track to be a whole
famed quarterback, that would be somebody that I would start
with Barry Sanders. The fact that Barry never got injured.
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I don't remember him ever being injured, and well you
couldn't hit him, Like, do you ever remember somebody going, man,
did they put a lick on Barry Sanders? I'm sure
they did it just he was able to survive and
they became relevant just because people tuned in to watch
him play.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Yes, Pauline, Yeah, Barry Sanders only missed I got him
at only missing six games and ten years due to injury.
The other quarterback I throw this is really obvious, but
when David Carr was selected out of Fresno State by
the Texans, he could play. He was a very good
drop back passer. There's no doubt he could have worked
out in this league if he didn't get just lit
up his first couple of years by that fra by
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that offensive line.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That didn't help him out.
Speaker 12 (14:51):
I mean two thousand and two in Houston, he was
sex seventy six times.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, he would have made.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It, I thought, And I remember having lunch with him
in New Orleans and it might have been at the
Super Bowl, and you could just see it like, that's
not the way he thought his rookie season was going
to go.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
And to get sack seventy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Six times, it sounds almost impossible to do, but he did.
And he never recovered from that, because that's when they
take away your confidence. Quarterback has step on the field
and have confidence, but you go back to pass and
you're like, it's not a question of if, but when
I'm going to get sacked? All right, let me take
(15:32):
a break. Got more phone calls to come up. Coming up,
we'll talk about the college football rankings. They came out
and it's weird to see BYU as one of the
top four teams that they would have a first round
by wild All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
RG three will join us next.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
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Speaker 2 (16:03):
He's OURG three former NFL Quarterback Rookie of the Year.
Heispin winner and check out his podcast out of Pocket
with RG three on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast.
Always got the black cowboy hat on You got a
Sean Taylor throwback jersey as well.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Hey man, I appreciate you having me on the show.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
How you doing, brother good?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
What's the black cowboy hat?
Speaker 13 (16:27):
For?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Black cowboy hat?
Speaker 14 (16:30):
Honestly, I just I've been wearing it for a few
months now, being at home creating content, you know, connecting
with the fans.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
So just felt like.
Speaker 15 (16:38):
It was it was time to bring the cowboy hat
on the Dan.
Speaker 14 (16:41):
Patrick Show, especially with a lot of the stuff that's
going on in the league right now.
Speaker 15 (16:45):
I just I just felt very cowboy ish, if you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, but it feels like you're anti cowboy if you're
wearing the black hat.
Speaker 14 (16:52):
I mean, I did play for the Washington Commanders. I
wouldn't say I'm anti cowboy. I just like to live
in reality. And we all know who the biggest loser
of the trade deadline were and who was that?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Oh it's Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 14 (17:06):
Then for the Cowboys to come away with Jonathan Mingo,
who I love Jonathan Mingo, the player was very high
on him coming out and think that he can still
be a great contributor in the NFL. But for them
to give up a fourth round pick to get him.
When the kans City Chiefs gave up a fifth rounder
to get seven times, I think it was thousand yard
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receiver DeAndre Hopkins, the Ravens gave up a fifth round
pick to get Deontay Johnson. Who else gave up some
picks to get a receiver?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It was.
Speaker 14 (17:38):
Oh, the Steelers gave up a fifth round pick to
get Mike Williams. Now, everyone will say, hey, those guys
are older expiring contracts, But every single NFL executive that
I talked to told me that it was a bad
deal for the Cowboys to give up so much to
get Jonathan Mingo. So when we talked about the Cowboys
in the offseason, it was, Hey, they're all in, and
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I just understand how they're making these moves now that
their quarterback is on ir did Dak Prescott not being available,
and they think that this move signing or trading for
Jonathan Mingo is gonna make their fan base believing what
they're doing.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
It's not.
Speaker 15 (18:14):
It's gonna make everybody rebel and continue to.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Laugh at the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Would you make of the Commanders in what they did
with Marshaun Lattimore.
Speaker 14 (18:23):
I mean, it was just It's glorious to me. It
was the stamp of approval for Adam Peters being the
NFL Executive of the year. I think he's been making
win move after when move. From the very beginning of
the offseason. You talk about bringing in offensive production that's
veteran led with zach Ertzitt tight end and Austin Eckler
at running back. Noah Brown, a late pickups was their
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leading receiver last week. And then you also talk about
what he did on the defense side of the ball,
bringing in Bobby Wagner to make him the centerpiece of
the Commander's defense with Dan Quinn essentially running that defense
in the style that both of them know together. Bringing
in Dante Fowler Junior, who's playing out of his mind.
Frankie Louvo has also added an identity to that defense.
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Into that locker room, Adam Peters has made move after move,
including drafting Jayden Daniels that has put Washington position to
win this year. He basically turned Jahadan Dotson into Marshaun Lattimore.
I don't know how you couldn't say that at this
point in the season. This guy is the executive of
the year and I'm just so happy for the team.
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I'm happy for the fans. The fans in Washington, DC
deserve this type of winner at seven and two, and
it further proves my point of what I made earlier
this year about them being the best situation for a
young quarterback because coaching matters and structure matters, and they
have all of that lockdown right now.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I can't argue with what he's done and the
pieces that he's had. I would probably push back and say,
Brett Beach with the Chiefs is I mean, they lose
players and he just plugs and plays. Man, they plug
and play and they play well. I Mean, anybody could
have had these guys and they bring them in and
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that's why if you're looking at an MVP, it wouldn't
be Patrick Mahomes, it would be Andy Reid and Brett Beach.
With what they're doing with this talent, I think it's
been incredible.
Speaker 14 (20:21):
Yeah, Dan, it's been nothing short of amazing, and they're
trying to accomplish something different. If we were giving away,
the Executive of the Year away at the end of
the season. I think we could all agree that if
the kans City Chiefs three peete for the first time
in NFL history, then yeah, it goes to Brett Veach.
I think from the Commander's point of view, it's more
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of where they came from. The Chiefs have already been
at the top and are staying at the top. The
Commanders have forced their way to seven and two in
a year where people didn't even think they would be
contenders in their own division, and right now they're leading
that division. But to speak of the Kansas City Chiefs,
I mean the move they made, I do think they're
the You know, obviously I'm wearing the Commander's jersey or
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Reskins jersey. You know fans out there, I still want
that name back, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 15 (21:08):
I'm wearing the Commander's jersey.
Speaker 14 (21:10):
But I fully understand that the Kansas City Chiefs are
the team that won the trade deadline because they brought
in DeAndre Hopkins. He's a receiver that helps them get
closer to that three peat because it gives them two
chain movers on offense. You saw what Kelsey did this
past week fourteen catches one hundred yards. Having DeAndre Hopkins
there allows Mahomes to continue to have this this moment
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of like his BS meter like not his BS meter,
his his I don't give a shit meter is off
the radar. Right now, he's throwing a bunch of interceptions.
You saw the throw that he made down the field
of DeAndre Hopkins. To make that catch, that's trust. And
when you've had a receiver for two weeks and you're
already doing those types of things. I completely understand why
d Hopp is posting pictures of Randy Moss and Tom
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Brady because these two could have that impact.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He SRG three. You can check out his podcast, Out
of Pocket with RG three. It's available on YouTube wherever
you get your podcast. We stumbled upon this question that
you probably didn't think you would be answering today. You
can start your team with Peyton Manning O or Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Man.
Speaker 14 (22:17):
I mean, I'm starting with Peyton Manning. I like all
these guys, you know, I think Peyton Manning's with the
greatest ever. I think Aaron Rodgers is one of the
greatest ever. I think for me, when you're building a team,
you want to build the culture, and I think that
Peyton Manning, over the course of his career had less
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issues with the media in the locker room, and I
think that part of it would make you pick Peyton Manning.
From a talent perspective, no, I believe that Aaron Rodgers
is overtly more talented than Peyton was. But when it
comes to their personalities, when you think of Peyton Manning,
you think of commercials and him being funny, his massive forehead,
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whatever you want to think about, right, But when you
think of Aaron Rodgers, if you go negative, it's some
of the locker room distractions. It's the darkness, retreats, it's
the missing of of you know, offseason workouts at times,
even though I didn't have a problem with that this
past offseason because he was there every single day for
all the other days of the offseason. So I would
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just say their their ability to manage the media is
something that is a big deal when it comes to
being a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So I would I would started with Payton Manny.
Speaker 14 (23:35):
If I threw Brady in there, yeah, I mean I'd
go it's all Brady. I don't think guy's got seven rates.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'm just I'm just looking at if we just did talent.
Oh yeah, Aaron's got to be the most talented quarterback
who's probably ever played.
Speaker 14 (23:53):
I would disagree just because of Patrick Mahomes, just because
of Mahomes, and I don't think that's Recncy biased.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
I think that he's.
Speaker 14 (23:59):
Proved over the career, the years of his career, that
he is the most talented quarterback we have ever seen.
He can do everything Rogers does, he can do everything
Manning does, and he can do everything Brady does. And
he's on track to to go break Brady's record of
Super Bowl championships. So I would say it's Mahomes, But
after that, I think Aaron is certainly within the top five.
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There's some guys that Michael Vick, you know, one of
the most talented quarterbacks ever accomplished.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
No, yeah, Aaron's more accomplished.
Speaker 14 (24:29):
But there's some guys out there that have been super
talented that maybe haven't put up the same numbers as Aaron.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The college football playoffs, the brackets came out, yep, and
I love the fact that you got Indiana against Tennessee,
Boise State, Ohio State, Alabama, Texas opening round, Notre Dame,
Penn State, and then you can't help but notice waiting
in the quarterfinals is BYU.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Here.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
People are gonna they're gonna lose their minds if you
have Texas or Alabama, these schools the blue bloods, and
BYU is there waiting. They would be waiting for the
winner of Boise State in Ohio State in the quarterfinals.
What do you make of the first showing of the rankings.
Speaker 14 (25:16):
I just think what you just mentioned, Dan is exactly
why it didn't matter if it was four teams, twelve teams,
or thirty two teams. People are always going to have
a problem with whatever the end result ends up becoming.
BYU's earned that spot to be and have have a
bye week with the way that they've played, and no one.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Should be upset about that.
Speaker 14 (25:38):
The beauty to me of the twelve team playoff is
the fact that we're going to see matchups that we
traditionally wouldn't see at higher stakes, not in the regular season,
not the first week of the season. But these are
going to give teams like a Boise State with Aston genty,
who is the leader for the Heisman Trophy right now,
despite popular opinion or the waves of support behind other players.
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This guy's on pace to break Barry Sanders rushing record,
which is unheard of. So I want to see those matchups.
Even if it is against one of the vaunted blue
blood programs. They still have to go out and earn
that week in week out in the college football playoff
when the stakes are at their highest. A couple of
years ago, who saw TCU with Max Duggan having an
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opportunity to play for a national championship. Yeah, I don't
think anybody did, so I think that's the beauty of it.
College football is getting closer and closer to March Madness.
We just can't have that many games because obviously these
kids can't play a thirty game season.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think we're eventually going to get to the NFL model,
and I think you're going to have these teams that
are on the West coast. So the Pac twelve teams
now in the Big Ten, they're going to be playing
regional again. So we're going to go back to this
eventually where you'll have teams in the Midwest, teams in
East Southeast.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And if you just like the NFL and you're.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Gonna be playing each other twice and then you'll play
you know, the the Midwest. One year, it'll be it'll
be that model. I think we'll have, you know, maybe
forty teams, and you know there's gonna be revenue sharing
and everything that goes along with that. What was the
most money What was the best offer you got from
a school coming out of high school?
Speaker 14 (27:22):
I mean they were not paying when I was playing, Okay,
because Dan, if they were paying when I was playing,
you know, my family is financially secure and very well off,
but the amount of money that we'd demanded to bring
in at that time would have been astronomical. I will
tell you a story, though, I did get pranked one
time one of my offensive linemen. We were about to
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play Texas A and M my my freshman year big
rival obviously Baylor and AM don't play anymore, but a
big rivalry at the time, right down the road from
each other, and he told me, hey, you know, last
time last year, when we won this game, I came
back to my apartment and there was like fifty thousand
bucks in a duck out front of my apartment. And
I'm like, okay, He's like, hey, man, if we win
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this game, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened to you.
So we go, we win the game. You know, I
throw for like three touchdowns. We're balling out. We blow
them out. I literally sprinted back to my apartment, Dan,
I was so ready to see that duffel bag of
fifty K. And when I got back to my point
my apartment, my offensive lineman was was sitting in the
parking lot in this truck laughing.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
There was the funniest thing for me.
Speaker 14 (28:29):
But, like I always tell people, if you think that
you would not have taken money if it was offered
to you, especially when if you're a kid like myself
who wasn't well off, you're lying to yourself. That's not
a moral thing. A lot of the guys that talk
on TV, you know that were players. They took money
in their time. But I didn't get any of those offers.
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And if I did, obviously we probably wouldn't be talking
about it. But I didn't get any offers, unfortunately, And
that's just being honest. We've got to be honest with
each other here.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Know, I'm just surprised that nobody's offering you like a car.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No no, no car offer.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
No car offer.
Speaker 14 (29:09):
The only offer I ever got that was material was
like a job to like go work at a law
firm because I went to school for political science and
that was my degree. That's what I got my undergrad
degree in. So one school had like offered me a
job at a law firm in the in the off
season or in the summer.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Which is also illegal. It was illegal at the time.
Speaker 14 (29:30):
So I turned that down because I didn't want to
lose my eligibility. But I didn't get any car offers
or anything like that. Now I'm not saying I am
not saying that there aren't some people that I know
that did, but I am not going to snitch on them.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
What's the best offer? You don't have to mention a
name like this guy got taken care of.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
He got what.
Speaker 14 (29:51):
Oh, they were making five hundred thousand dollars a year,
So when whenever?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
When? When? Back then?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Back then? So yeah, back then. So I was two.
Speaker 14 (30:03):
That was two thousand and eight when I came out,
So back then they were making five hundred thousand a year.
This was not at Baylor, by the way, No one
at Baylor. The compliance the compliance team at Baylor top notch.
I got a free pizza one time, and they made
me go back and pay for the pizza. Okay, So
I don't know how they even found out I got
the free pizza, but they found out I got the
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free pizza.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But imagine the Ohio State guys with Terrell Pryor where
they're trading gear for tattoos like nowadays. Like if you
say that nowadays, you're like, wait a minute, they got
in trouble for that.
Speaker 14 (30:36):
Yeah, and their coach got fired. Jim Tressel, Yes, you're
spot on. And the thing about it is, it's so
crazy when I hear people talk about the wild wild
West that college football is. It's always been the wild
wild West. It's now just legal and people can be
more forthcoming and they can track that information with nil
earnings that not everybody loves. But understand that what you
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see now in the forefront was happening behind the scenes
at a lot of major and massive, blue blood programs
well before it became public.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Good to talk to you again, Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
God bless RG three out of pocket his podcast RG
three on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, I
love you know that people are now hearing these totals
of what players are getting and it's not a big deal.
It's like, oh, that guy's getting a million dollars, but
before you were getting half of that. But it was
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all undercover. I mean it was, you know, in the
shadows Jim Bags. I remember what was it Tulane basketball
where they had a big man, Oh, what's his name.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Played in the end.
Speaker 12 (31:53):
Keith Lee, No John Williams, Williams for Tulane.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, Keith Lee was Memphis, I think, okay, yeah, Keith
Lee Memphi.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But I remember there was an article where he was
getting just a duffel back or shoe boxes full of money.
Shoe boxes full of money, like hey, here's a new
pair of Adidas. Wow, I'm going to put these on.
Wink wink, open it up and you got twenty five
or fifty k in there?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yes, Mark, That's like when Ole miss had a great
recruiting class one year with the Quan Treadwell. Oh yeah,
we were like wait Candichi, Yeah, like they weren't form Mississippi.
Somebody was from like Illinois, Wait, how did you get
down here?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, that's like when the guys got to Kansas State
to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Michael Michael Beasley, A lovely place, Michael Beasley.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's like, Hey, Michael Beasley's going to Manhattan, Kansas.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
What of oj Mayo?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
How could that be possible? Things that make you go hmmm.
Take a break back after this.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Be sure to catch the live and of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (33:09):
Get a couple of phone calls here once again. Sunday night,
it'll be the Lions and the Texans. That's It's seven
eastern on NBC and Peacock. I do love this college
football playoff, the projected bracket that came out last night.
Just the fact that you have Boise State and Ohio State, Indiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas,
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Notre Dame, Penn State. That's how we would start the
playoffs if the season ended, and then BYU in the quarterfinals, Oregon,
Miami and Georgia in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
There's gonna be people who won't like the fact that BYU,
if BYU wins its conference, will have a ticket to
the quarterfinals. There's gonna be no matter what, there is
no full proof playoff where you go, you know what
the best teams are there. I don't know how many
times we do this in college basketball, where we go,
you know, those aren't the two best teams. But in
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college football we do. You know, people had doubts about TCU,
like are they any good? Well, they made it to
the championship game. That'd be like when Butler goes to
the title game to play against Duke.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
But we kind of accept it.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
We go, hey, this could be like you know, Hoosiers
where you have a big upset here, and we nearly
had that with Gordon Hayward, Yes, Paulin.
Speaker 12 (34:29):
Yeah, BYU getting that advanced bid. It's almost like the NFL.
Last year the NFC, the Tampa Bay Bucks had nine
wins and got a home playoff game. Yeah, and their teams.
There's a couple more teams. The Rams had more wins,
the Eagles had more wins. But that's how the divisions are.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But the Big Twelve doesn't have powerhouse football. They don't
have great teams. I mean, it's kind of like the
NFC South, where you go, Okay, somebody's going to win
and represent you know, the conference. Or division and they
get a playoff game of sorts, they get to go
to the quarterfinals. There, let me get a couple of
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phone calls in there and Joey and Texas. Hi, Joey,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 13 (35:11):
Hey?
Speaker 16 (35:11):
How's it going down? By ten one night? What's going
on on this show today? Is appalling, disgusting and just
absolutely disrespectful to pay In Manning. Manning is not only
one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, but he
has earned a spot on the Mount Rushmore of the NFL,
college football, and high school football all levels Mount Rushmore
time and time again. Rogers had the easiest path to
(35:34):
the Super Bowl, and time and time again, he lost
two subpar quarterbacks. He lost to Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 11 (35:39):
Where is he?
Speaker 16 (35:40):
He lost to Jimmy G. Jimmy G only completed eight passes.
That's two passes per quarter in the twenty twenty NFC
Championship Game. That's how much Aaron Rodgers is trashed. He
lost to a broke down Kurt Warner.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
He lost to an.
Speaker 16 (35:52):
Old Tom Brady time and time again. Peyton Manning had
a face tough defenses Steelers the Ravens. He had to
go through Tom Brady, Philip Rivers and those fully loaded Chargers.
And I just want to say this, Aaron Rodgers is
the Allen Iverson of the NFL, just all time talent,
but doesn't capitalize on it. Aaron Rodgers going on that
(36:15):
darkness retreat is the same thing about Alan Alan Everson
saying practice, practice practice. Aaron Rodgers is just trash. Yes,
he has all this talent, but at the end of
the day, when it's atin and done, what did he do?
He only won one super Bowl? He is the Allen
Iverson of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, Peyton won two, but he does he shouldn't get
credit for the second one.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
He did win one super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
So if we're really gonna be honest about this, we
were talking about the talent of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Now, if you get.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Into who he is in the locker room, yeah, then
you're gonna have a lot of people side with Peyton Manning.
And I certainly understand that, and I would too, But
I was just looking at the talent of Aaron Rodgers.
If you're starting when both of them win their MVPs.
One was twenty seven, one was twenty eight, I don't
think there's a wrong answer.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Maybe there's a more correct answer.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
But you know, if you say the consolation prize is
either one of them, you win.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yes, Marv, I'm sorry that analogy was crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Alan Iverson took one of the worst teams in the
in the history of NBA to the NBA Finals, Eric
snow and olded the Kembai mc tumble, George Lynch, Aaron
McKee and at six feet, one hundred and sixty five pounds,
he came on this show and he said he didn't
want to lift weights because they were heavy. And he's
the only the only person to beat the two thousand
and one Lakers in Game one. I know, Alan Iverson, No, no,
(37:39):
you might want to somebody else, but not Allen Iverson
and Colin Kaepernick went off against the Packers that game.
Yes he did, and that defense was really really good. Yes,
so sorry, stop it go ahead, DP.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Sorry, but the Allen Iverson thing, we won't allow that.
I'm gonna ma tumbo that right.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
In practice if people hear the full cut, if that's
not context, he's not talking. He's talking about his friend.
I had a friend died. Hey, you're talking about practice. Yes,
he wasn't talking about practice. In itself.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yes, although he probably didn't want to practice, but probably
wanted to go to Atlantic City and gamble.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
But yeah, don't bring Iverson in here.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Iverson, with what he did with what he was surrounded with,
is remarkable and I'll never ever have a negative word
to say about Iverson. Whenever I watched him play, certainly
in Philadelphia, he never ever cheated me. He always played hard.
And I was there at that game one between the
Lakers and Sixers, and I said, I can't believe they
(38:38):
have beaten the Lakers and then they lost four straight
I think, but they were on a roll. Uh, Chris
in Pennsylvania. Hi, Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Hey? Dan Dennett, how are you? Uh? I'm a big
fan of the San Patrick takes a Gamble podcast. And
I understand Larry's daughter's getting married, I think on Friday, yep.
And I was just wondering, I think you're taking some
of the boys, don't Is there travel arrangements? So are
we all pineling into the car together and maybe maybe
(39:09):
even doing the podcast on the way.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, we're going to do the podcast tomorrow, I think
tomorrow after the show, and then as soon as the
show ends on Friday, I'm heading down to the Jersey
Shore for Bad Larry's daughter's wedding. But I did say
to Dylan and Shay if they want to go, they
have to make their own travel arrangements. And I'm not
(39:33):
sure if they're serious or not, but I said, go.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
It's all about content here. Chad and Dayton, Hey Chad.
Speaker 13 (39:42):
Hey Dan and the dan As. How are you doing great?
I got two questions for you on this post election day.
Number One, I'm fortunate enough to get through the second time,
which is awesome, And I was just wondering how many
times do I have to get through before I can
put on my resume at Dan Patrick's show contributor. That's
the first one. And the second one is as frustrated
as I am with Jerry Jones and how he runs
(40:04):
the Cowboys, I can barely be a fan anymore. So
I wanted to know you, Dan Patrick, and all your
years of covering, have you ever gotten so frustrated with
the team that you liked that you said there's no
way I can root for them as long as this GM,
this player, this coach. Have you had to walk away
and frustration over over something like that?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
No, I never did.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I stopped rooting when I became a full time sports
anchor at ESPN. I stop rooting for teams that I
grew up rooting for the Bengals, the Cincinnati Reds because
I have to be fair to all the other fan bases.
But I was never I could be frustrated with the Bengals,
but I never went, man, I'm going to start rooting
for the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Never happened.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Final hour on the way, talk a little bit more
about the college playoff picture here more of your phone
calls as well.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Back after this
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