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November 8, 2024 41 mins

Dan reminds us that NFL teams have mostly shown us who they are now that we are past the trade deadline and through half of the season. And former NFL CB and current analyst, Domonique Foxworth drops by to weigh in on last night’s game and preview the rest of Week 10.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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it better than we do? I said to Tyler, just
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(00:25):
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we can. I even suggested maybe some garlic bread. But
we just made it nice, clean and simple. And this
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where we're going to have some real gumbo for the
Super Bowl. Who's going to the super Bowl? Are the

(00:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:43):
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doesn't feel like Glenn Powell was like he was there
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realize he's been in other things? People start, you know,

(02:04):
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guy and then you google and you go, oh, he's
been in or she's been in other things.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
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movie scene. Also, oh you see m there's a big
Hallmark movie.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, all right, nothing like an after school special something
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, Paul, he was in a movie about almost a
decade ago called Everybody Wants Some Have You guys seen
that I have none. It's a movie about a bunch
of college baseball players that live in a house. And
it's made by the same guy who did I think
it's the same guy did Dazed and Confused. It's all about
one weekend in college with a bunch of kind of
like jocks and girls and m It's funny. It's a

(02:44):
Dazed and Confused with you know, college baseball.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh, what's it called?

Speaker 5 (02:49):
You?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Everybody wants some? It came up at least i'd say
seven eight years ago. It's about the eighties in Texas
and college freshman showing up on campus.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
It's fun and funny. Okay, recommendation, full recommendation, Yeah boy, okay,
full recommendation. All right, it's our two poll question sheet.
And what are we gonna go? I don't even know
what we went with an hour one on the program.

Speaker 7 (03:12):
Uh, let's see we have one here.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
We were going with at the end of the game,
what should refs do with their whistle?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Blow it?

Speaker 7 (03:20):
Swallow it?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay? Wow, I think we gotta maybe come up with it.
I need to reword that don't yes you do. I
need to reword that yes you do.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
At the end of the whistle, at the end of
the Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Let's tryin at the end of the game.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
What should refs do? UH? I prefer refs at the
end of the game to call penalties or not call
pal that's what that's cleaner.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's cleaner.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, well we're gonna go with that.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I want them to call that. When there's a penalty,
you call penalty. Don't miss what are our penalties? And
I do believe we had a caller last hour. If
Mahomes gets hit in the face masks, they're going to
call that. I really believe that they should have called that.
With Joe Burrow, it was a penalty. But there's a

(04:12):
bigger there's a systemic issue with the Bengals, and that
is you've got to close out games. If you have
a quarterback who's playing this well, a wide receiver playing
this well. I know defense hasn't been great, but you've
got to win these games. This is the difference between
making the playoffs and not making the playoffs, or having

(04:33):
home field advantage or being on the road. It's little things.
It's games where a lot of times we will zero
in on a game and go, well, that show down
between those two. It's the other games, like when the
Jets lose it home to the Broncos. Those are the
games that crush you later in the season where you go,
wait a minute, you lost to who where by how much?

(04:56):
But the Ravens last night they prove that they can
put up points and they're gonna have to put up points.
They also prove that they can give up a lot
of points as well. But when you have the twenty
sixth ranked defense, and it's not like you go, boy,
you know what at the trade deadline, No, nothing's gonna

(05:17):
happen here. Waiver wire maybe, but you are who you
are now after the trade deadline, unless you know, Hamilton
has to get healthy. He went out tweaked his ankle
last night. They just they don't have a formidable front,
and they're the Ravens linebackers, to me are a little
suspect as well. But I just I watched and I go,

(05:41):
they're going to score, but they are going to allow
other people to score as well. And Paulie's trying to
get a betting line. If the Chiefs and Ravens played
right now in Kansas City for the AFC title game,
I think Kansas City's got to be at least a
three point favorite. Yes, Paulin the.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Time period we're on is the tough time in the
world to get someone on. Who's awake in Vegas?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Because we reach out at like nine thirty our time,
which is six thirty in the morning, people are either
in bed or they haven't got up there.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, what about in turn, Ray, he's looking into it too. Yeah,
a couple of people asked DraftKings there. Damn they should
be able to come up with something. All right. So
stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of the program. The poll question
seating from the first hour? Clean that up, and then
what are we going to go with an hour or two?

Speaker 7 (06:29):
We're going with? Which can I see happening more? The
Bengals scramble to a wild card spot or the Ravens
win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh, I would say the Ravens winning the Super.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Bowl rather than the Bengals clawing their way in.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, are they going to beat the Chargers in LA?
Are they going to beat the Steelers twice?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
If they do all of that, then they're going to
make the playoffs and it's weird if you said teams
that don't have a good record but are more dangerous
than teams who do have a good record. If you
said the Bengals and the Broncos, I would say the
Bengals are more dangerous than the Broncos are because the
Broncos did have a good defense until they don't have

(07:14):
a good defense and you're relying on bow Knicks, a
rookie quarterback. But there are certain teams like Miami feels
better than a two win team, yes, het.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean if you're looking at teams that are
better than their record, right, most threatening team below five hundred, okay,
you would have the Dolphins in there. You would obviously
have the Bengals, you know, right, you know, the Cowboys,
Yeah for clicks, the Jets, Yeah, for clicks. Is there

(07:53):
anybody else that's below five hundred that's actually threatening?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Though?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Are the Jags threatening? No, I'm gonna say that again.
You said it too quick. And the Jags threatening? Mmm? No?

Speaker 7 (08:09):
Yeah, the Patriots are not threatening? No, despite having basically
the same record as the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, you know, it's gonna be weird though. If the
Bengals have a worse record with Joe Burrow than they
did last year without Joe Burrow. Dang, Joe Burrow is
the problem, Dan Patrick.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
You just said it by turns on Bengals, just the problem.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah. I love watching Burrow play man, but he could
be the you know, the modern day. Dan Marino, you
got to a super Bowl. You never get to another
super Bowl. But Lamar Jackson, You're gonna be hard pressed
to try to come up with a way or ways

(08:50):
or reasons why you're not gonna vote Lamar Jackson MVP.
And I know there's a lot of football left to
be played. He's not turning the ball over, he doesn't
get sacked, he doesn't get hit. The only time he
gets hit is when he runs. The Bengals hit him,
I think one time last night, and I mentioned this
stat first hour, but I'm gonna say it again because

(09:11):
Lamar Jackson has been hit, not talking sack, hit in
the pocket twenty times this year. Josh Allen has been
hit sixteen times dropping back to pass. Now, if you
look at some of the other quarterbacks, Gino Smith has
been hit sixty two times, Deshaun Watson when he was

(09:32):
still playing fifty seven times.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
C J.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Stroud, who plays the Lions on Sunday Night forty nine times.
Rogers has been hit forty nine times, Kirk Cousins forty
eight times. That's an incredible disparity between those, you know,
those numbers and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, but those
are probably the two leading candidates for MVP throwing Jared

(09:55):
Goff as well. All right, we'll get phone calls, operators
sitting by. It's football weekend. We're getting to that point
of the season where you can't afford another law. If
you have two losses, you can't afford another loss. You
got Alabama and LSU the loser Gonzo, you got Georgian
and Old Miss. If All Miss loses ballgame, and then

(10:21):
you know, you got some other games that appear to
be okay. Michigan getting fourteen and a half against Indiana,
I'm waiting for Michigan to be Michigan and maybe Indiana
to be Indiana. That's fourteen and a half. I don't
think I ever think that Indiana, unless it was basketball,
would be favored by fourteen and a half against Michigan.

(10:44):
Colorado against Texas Tech, Colorado quietly moving along. They're four
point favorites South Carolina against Vandy. Todd has his Diego
Pavia Vanderbilt Commodores. Yeah, yes, Marvin.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
So can Indiana afford a loss?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I guess they can. But here's the thing. You your
game at Ohio State has to be competitive. If Donald,
if you're going to lose as a fourteen and a
half point favored against Michigan, that's that's gonna that's gonna sting.
That'll leave a mark. They they probably can't afford another,
can't afford a loss because they have to go to

(11:25):
Ohio State and assuming they lose that game, they have
to make that competitive. If they get roughed up by
twenty one points, you know, then all of a sudden
got an uphill climb. Jamar Chase was wonderful last night.
Eleven catches, two hundred and sixty four yards, three touchdowns,
So he has had multiple games of at least two

(11:47):
hundred and fifty receiving yards and three receiving touchdowns. That's
never happened before in NFL history. Like these are historical numbers.
Two game total against the same opponent four hundred and
fifty seven and receiving yards. That is the record all
time record of receivers against the same team two games

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in one season.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Crazy Statu the day, stat of the day, stat of
the day, stat of the day, A stat of the
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Speaker 10 (12:21):
Of the day.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Brought to you by a Penni America. The official trading
cards of the Dan Patrick Show. By the way, Joe
Burrow's passer rating the highest passer rating by starting quarterback
with a losing record through the first ten games of
a season since Deshaun Watson was with the Texans, and
that was four years ago. A couple more phone calls
in here Andrew and Washington, Andrew, welcome back, Good.

Speaker 11 (12:44):
Morning, DP and Dan. That's happy meet Friday. I got
like a bad beat stat. I'm not sure if this
was a prop better or not. But the Ravens though
one yard shy at rushing for one hundred yards in
the game when Lamar Jackson needled to end the game.
This left Ravens one game short of the NFL record
forty three games for most consecutive games rushing for one

(13:06):
hundred yards. But Dan, I think you don't get Jamar
Chase enough credit for being the best ride receiver in NFL.
I think he's better than Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson does
have one more year in the league than Jamar Chase,
and Jamar Chase, even without his touchdowns last night, has
more touchdowns than Justin Jefferson does in his career. With
one season last plus Jamar Chase has gotten his team,

(13:29):
helped his team get to a super Bowl. It seems
like Justin Jefferson is a compiler, but Jamar Chase, he's
shown that he actually has one.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
More in the NFL. Well, and thank you, thank you, Andrew.
But I have to factor in who's thrown the ball
to Jamar Chase and who has thrown the ball to
Justin Jefferson. So let's be fair. Joe Burrow might be
the second best or third best quarterback in the NFL.
Nobody is going to mistake Sam Darnold, even Kirk Cousins

(13:58):
in that category. Let's just be fair to the combination
quarterback and wide receiver. Ben in Texas, Hi, Ben, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Five eleven hard.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Hard?

Speaker 5 (14:15):
My buddy and his mother loved the show, and unfortunately
we're going to be burying his mother today at the funeral,
and I know that. I just want to give a
shout out. She loved Texas Tech, and I know she'd
want to see Dion and Colorado lose tomorrow. So love you, buddy,
and thanks for listening. Bye.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I would think she probably would want other things besides
just Texas Tech beating Colorado, though, Ben, I don't know
about that. Well, rest in peace. What's her name, Vicky Smith?
All right? Well, thank you, thank you for calling in
for that. Shown all right, it's Ben in Texas, Kevin

(14:59):
in Florida, Hi, Kevin boring DP, Good morning.

Speaker 12 (15:05):
So I think the stat of the day needs to
be my fantasy football scorer right now. One hundred and
twenty two to three. Jamar Chase. And this is not
the chase from main Cabin Masters. I wish he was
playing last night. They got one hundred and twenty two points.
Two guys. I'm lucky if I score one hundred points
this week. Brutal, brutal.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Thank you, Kevin. You know I love hearing about your
fantasy team. I like, I like when you lose. Then
it's fun when somebody talks about their fantasy team. Because
I've been in a group where you're watching a game
and then you'll get somebody. Oh he's on my fantasy team.
Oh he's on my fantasy team. It's how many fantasy teams?
I got five? Everybody's on your fantasy team. Stop it.

(15:53):
Let's see Paul and Cincinnati. Hi Paul, Hey Dan, Good morning.

Speaker 10 (15:58):
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Everything's great?

Speaker 13 (16:00):
Great?

Speaker 10 (16:01):
Well, I wish I could say the same. So I've
got a probably the saddest stat of the day for
you guys this morning, that the heartbreak in my life
has direct correlation with the Bengals and how they've played
through five decades. So I have a philosophical question for
you and the group of guys. There maya Angelo said,
when someone shows you who they are, believe them. So

(16:24):
the Bengals ownership, front office, and coaching for over fifty
years has shown us who they are, and as a fan,
you refuse to believe them. So who's more at fault
the Bengals for not going all in or fans for
believing in them.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, that's why you're a fan. You have to believe,
but you also have to have realistic optimism. If you're
a cowboy fan, you can't be surprised at anything. Over
the last twenty five thirty years, but you act surprised
with that what's happened. The same with the Bengals. They
give you the highest of highs they've been in what

(17:01):
three super Bowls, but the lowest of lows with everything
else that's happened. And they've lost those super Bowls and
they've lost them. They're all three close Kenny Anderson, Boomer
Science and Joe Burrow all three competitive super Bowls and
you lost. But they have had those moment they at
least got to super Bowls. They're franchises that haven't gotten

(17:25):
there even if you're going to lose. All right, let
me take a break. We're going to talk. Is Dominic
Foxworth from the Mothership going to join us up next? Okay,
former defensive back. I want to know his thoughts on
the final two minutes there and is he buying into
the Ravens as the best team in the AFC. So

(17:46):
we'll talk to dom he'll join us coming up next.

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Speaker 2 (18:01):
We will talk to the former head of NFL officials
Dean Blendino. He'll join us coming up at the top
of next hour. More phone calls as well, update the
poll results as well. That'll be coming up. Also the
most must win game of the weekend, We make way
for Dominique Foxworth, ESPN writer commentator and also he's got

(18:21):
his own podcast and he contributes to get Up. Former
NFL player, grew up in Baltimore, University of Maryland. Probably
still Ravens fans, so maybe his opinion is slanted a
little bit here.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
Dominie's First of all, Dan, thanks for having me. I'm
not still a Ravens fan because I never was a
Ravens fan. They didn't get a team there until I
was like fourteen, and by then I was trying to
get a scholarship and get some girls to like me.
It's too late to become a fan when you're like fourteen, right,
I'm in ninth grade.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Who did you grow up liking?

Speaker 13 (18:55):
I just love football. I was a big Barry Sanders fan.

Speaker 8 (18:58):
One of my best friends was a Cowboys fans, so
then of course I had the root for forty nine
Ers and Jerry Rice.

Speaker 13 (19:04):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (19:04):
Didn't really have a team and when you're I don't
know if anybody else can relate, but we had Washington
had a team, but we're Baltimore, so we're close enough
to Washington to hate them and be far enough away
that you can't actually consider that your team, so like
you root against them, and ironically I live in DC.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now, Okay, give me the headline. What is the headline
after last night's game? And should there be a different
headline from last night's game?

Speaker 8 (19:32):
So I think the headline from last night's game is
probably some weird pun on Lamar's name. It's probably the
top headline because that's what that game really felt like
it was about. And honestly, I watched a lot of
film and try to analyze the like schematic decisions in
all these games. And I'm not rewatching last night's coaches
film because it wasn't about scheme. It was about Jamar

(19:55):
Chase being better than everybody on the field, Lamar Jackson
being better than everybody on the field. And I think
the next headline would probably be about the Ravens defense
might cost them a shot at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I can come
away with a not negative angles on this. But with
the Bengals, they lose another close game, and I thought
that they were going to win that game last night,
and then I look at the Ravens and I have
to look at a bigger picture. So I'm going to
extrapolate and go, what's this mean for them bigger picture?
Can they beat Kansas City in Kansas City in January?

Speaker 13 (20:32):
It depends on the week. You talk to me. A
couple weeks ago, I would.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Have said yes.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Then you see what d Hopp is doing there, and
you see how poor this defense is playing, and it
feels like a no.

Speaker 13 (20:42):
And if they win.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
I mean, the Ravens offense is so impressive this season
that it's possible that they could score on every drive,
and that seems like that's what they're gonna have to
do to beat anybody in the playoffs. Right now, this
defense is a problem, and it's weird because they have
so many big names and players that we know to
be good, from mattabk to Smith to Hamilton's out with

(21:05):
the ankle and Humphrey. But then you get out there
and it's just they can't get pressure. That's when it
comes down. They can't get pressure. The simulated pressures that
they use to trick people early in the season, and
last season they're not working and they've had quite a
brain drain there from the decordinator to I think Denard
Wilson was probably the next best coach on that on

(21:26):
that team, and he's moved on to be a very good,
seems like defensive coordinator down in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So I think that's really hurting them. Also, Okay, you
played the game final two minutes there? Do you want
you want everything called? There? You know there was holding
on that two point conversion. Burrow got hit in the
face mask there, Like, you know, how do you guys,
how how do you want it called? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (21:48):
I mean I think you nailed it off the top
with the biases. Whatever team I'm on, I'm creating a
rationale around that. But honestly, if I am a coach
and if I'm a leader on one of those teams,
shut the hell up and play man like. That's what
it comes down to for us is normally those calls.
I feel like complaining about the referees is also like
complaining about the weather. It's like you're it's not your control,

(22:10):
yet it's going to impact the game. There was a
holding call on the Ravens on that fourth and two
earlier in the game that I thought was a little
TICKI tag uh. It sucks when you're on the wrong
end of those, but it just kind of happens. And
neither of those felt like egregious at the end, which
I know is not a consolation to anybody who wanted
the Bengals to win. But that little tap on the

(22:31):
face mask is a defensive player. That's ridiculous, Like, I
never think that should be called ever when someone gets
their face a quarterback gets his face mask grazed after
he's released released the ball.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Wait, do you think Mahomes gets that call? Uh?

Speaker 13 (22:47):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, okay, yeah, all right, the.

Speaker 13 (22:49):
Rules are a little different for certain pays.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
But but why, I.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Mean, I think that we're human, the Reughs are human.
You're influenced by those things. I think the reason why
they called that holding on on Jamar Chase early in
the game that I thought on Stevens that I didn't
think was a real call was because it's Jamar Chase
and they expect Jamar Chase to be open and he's
not wide open.

Speaker 13 (23:09):
There must be something.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Wrong when it comes to MVP, and I've been on
this campaign on this soapbox. I hope they don't hold
what Lamar Jackson doesn't do in the playoffs against him
during the regular season, because you know, we're gonna get there,
We're gonna go, You're gonna give Lamar another MVP. And
he's like, I don't remember them ever saying that about

(23:32):
Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or farv. It just it
feels like we're so postseason conscious of what we do
in the regular season. You know, the Joker in the NBA,
it felt like, uh, he's got to win, Okay, then
he won. Now, Jannis, He's got to win. Then he won.

(23:53):
Now people are like, why did indeed get the MVP?
You know, he like, it's weird how we do that.
And I hope that the voter don't do that with
Lamar this year. If he is the MVP, he's the MVP,
and it's called the regular season MVP.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
We wanted to match up because these are the only
things as we get further from history, the only things
that we can.

Speaker 13 (24:12):
Point to is like who won MVP, who won the
Super Bowl? And so we wanted to match up.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
We want the MVPs to also be the guys who
dominated the playoffs, and you're right, it influences the way
that we appreciate their their following seasons. And Lamar has
to do it in the playoffs obviously, but when you
are playing the way he is playing this year, there
really is There's no question that he's the MVP of
the league right now. He's making it such that all

(24:37):
the important important passing categories he's number one in, and
then he does ridiculous things like he did last night
on the sideline in the red zone to make plays
that or make yeah, make plays that allow them to
win that go far beyond coaching or any talent of
the players around him.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
We're talking to Dominique Funksworth, ESPN writer and commentary See
him on Get Up Here's his own podcast. The biggest
reason I want to have you on is I think
you brought this up maybe on Monday, that you felt
like Buffalo Bill's players were easing up on Tua, as
if to consciously say we don't want to end his career.

(25:16):
How did you come to that conclusion.

Speaker 13 (25:19):
It was just watching the.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Game and it popped into my head when I saw
it on that fourth down, and also when I saw
it on one of the past rushing attempts, and it
wasn't like a completely prevalent thing, but it looked odd
to me, and maybe I was out there looking for
it because we all were kind of nervous watching to
a play. And it shocked me because that's not the
mentality I would have had, or the mentality any player

(25:42):
that I've played with would have ever had.

Speaker 13 (25:44):
And I could be wrong.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
I'm sure no Bills players would step up and say that,
and I imagine that Tua did not experience it that way.
But when I was watching the game, particularly that fourth
down went to a dove for the first down, an
important moment.

Speaker 13 (25:58):
That's a play as you normally meet him head to
head right there.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
So I'm not passing any judgment one way to other,
but that was the way that I experienced that game,
and it shocks me.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
But did you ever ease up on somebody for any reason?

Speaker 8 (26:11):
Hell no, Like never. I had one play where Eddie
Royal I think, eased up on me. He was a
receiver for the Broncos and Jay Cutler was scrambling. He
scrambled left and then he came back right and instead
of hitting me in the head on the blind side block,
which was legal back then, Eddie hit me in the chest.
So I was awake when I got up and coughed

(26:33):
up some blood and I had and I thanked Eddie.
I got traded from the Broncos earlier in that season,
so we were teammates, and I was like, I appreciate
it Eddie because he could have knocked me out, but
instead he bruised my lung or something. I don't know
what he did.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Who's the guy that you faced where you went? This
isn't fair. This guy is old Randy Mos.

Speaker 13 (26:55):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry you finished the question. But is
it an easy one? Is qu question that I get often.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
And the funny thing is I in my career, I
always liked the big, fast, long stride of receivers like
Randy Moss. I was like, I played well against them.
The guys I struggled more with was like the quick
change the direction guys. But Randy was just special man.
It was it was always a task like I played
well against to and those bigger guys, but Randy.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Nah, Randy's underrated.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
It's It's funny because my son I coached my son's
flag football team and we're champions once again, which was nice.

Speaker 13 (27:33):
But it's funny that you say that. But these kids
play a.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
Game called moss and it's like he is somewhat underrated,
but he is also like kind of the prototype when
we talk about a receiver. Everyone's the way that we
years ago would compare people to. Rice Mosta is the
guy that everyone young kids compare to.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Who can do more damage in the postseason. The Steelers
are the Commanders.

Speaker 13 (28:05):
I'm a sucker man.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
It's I want to give you some real smart, deep analysis.
But the Commander's got a better quarterback, and I think
the Marshawn Ladder Moore acquisition means more. In the NFC,
there is like a dearth of great quarterback play. Have
a hard time imagining Russell Wilson going past Lamar and

(28:27):
Allen and Mahomes. It's easier for me to see a
situation where Daniels pulls off a few surprise victories in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Jared Goff is having a six game stretch that's the
best we've seen in NFL history. But it's weird how
he just sort of is there and I liken it too,
when you get traded and they throw in draft picks
to get you out of town. I think that has

(28:59):
stayed with Jared Golf. You got to the super Bowl
with the Rams, but you didn't do anything, and it's
almost like Sean McVay got you there, Like, how do
you assess Jared Goff's career?

Speaker 8 (29:11):
I mean, it's similar to the questions you were asking earlier,
where it's about perception, like about Lamar. It's the same
sort of thing. Is we have to get over those
biases that we have where someone is drafted is going
to change the way that we feel about them. What
they've done in the past is going to change the
way we feel about him.

Speaker 13 (29:27):
And I think a lot.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
Of the criticism of Jared Goff, even in his success,
is valid. Until last year's playoff run, he made the
plays like he was making the plays even when some
people were dropping him. He was making the plays that
we expected. But what I don't want to do is
pretend that he's more important to his team than some
of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about. This is

(29:50):
an offensive line driven team, like this is Penne Sewel
is the MVP of that team.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's interesting that you say that. Is there a most
must win game of the weekend for you win the NFL?
Like this team has to win this weekend. That's a
tough one.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
I mean, it would have been the Bengals because they
want to stay in the hunt. It comes down to
probably the Jets. It's you look around divisions, you know,
Like that's the way that I think about it, is
like who's in a division. There are a lot of
teams and divisions that they can they can survive without winning.
The Jets are in a situation where they can't afford
to lose anymore.

Speaker 13 (30:27):
But I think they might be.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's against the Cardinals. Yeah, the Cardinals. Why isn't Trey
Lance playing for the Cowboys?

Speaker 13 (30:38):
My guess is that Trey Lights isn't very good.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
And you remember that draft and how unique the COVID
situation was and where Trey came from in his play
seven man football in high school and the small college Like,
my guess is all the tools, like the the Josh
Allen era of quarterbacks, where all coaches thought was you
needed with tools and we can make you into something.

(31:02):
This is one of the casualties I feel like of
the Josh Allen experiment working out. Other coaches thought they
could do it.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, but you have Cooper Rush, who's what thirty one?
You already know what you have. I just thought maybe
the Cowboys give him a chance to play a little bit.

Speaker 13 (31:21):
Yeah, I don't think that's a terrible idea unless he's terrible.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
That's the thing is, like the players know, and there's
some things you can't get away with. And my guess
is the reason why the forty nine ers came up
off of them despite all of what they put into
it was in part because he's just not very good.
And I think the rest of the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
How do you scout and whiff that badly?

Speaker 13 (31:47):
It's a tough So that's the thing is.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
I've been arguing on the side of and this is
probably a broader conversation about analytics, but I've been arguing
on the side of the Michael Pennocks draft pick despite
the fact that everyone doesn't like it, and I argued
for the Trey Lance draft pick also that that was
the guy that you want to pick in part because

(32:10):
these moves that look stupid in hindsight, like there are
so many of them, but you have to do some
stupid stuff to kind of crack the code. Like there's
if you follow the traditional status quo, you will be
amongst the pack. And of course the volatility of your
decision goes up, so nine times out of ten.

Speaker 13 (32:32):
If you do something risky, you're going to be wrong.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
But if you sincerely believe that you found some spot
in there that other people haven't figured out, then that's
how you have success.

Speaker 13 (32:42):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
Like we point to the running back situation, that's like
the current version of it where everyone's like, you don't
pay running backs. The reason why that rule exists is
because some dumb general managers will overpay running backs. But
it's not a hard and fast rule, you know, Like
I think that absolutees are for children and dumb people,
but smart people look and say, oh, eight million.

Speaker 13 (33:05):
Dollars for Dereck Henry.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Yeah, I take that, and I think that if there
were if I had a choice between a shutdown corner
or an unblockable pass rusher or all pro level running back,
I go for the corner or the pass rusher.

Speaker 13 (33:21):
But they don't cost eight million dollars.

Speaker 8 (33:24):
So if I have that choice, then you go with
the guy who's eight million dollars. We see Saquan and McCaffrey, like,
these are unique situations and being comfortable and that's why,
like these are decisions are often made by coaches that
are in have security or teams have security.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Because these are unique situations. Well, the Chiefs they cracked
the code. They had Alex Smith and they drive Patrick Mahomes.
The forty nine ers had Alex Smith, they took Colin Kaepernick.
Like you, but exactly, I don't like when you can
get a guy and you don't have to trade up
to get the guy. So when you spend, you want
to take a risk up top, Okay, but don't compound

(34:03):
it by saying, and we're gonna give you, you know,
first round picks here. Then I have a problem with
cracking the code.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
And in less in less Trey Lance was Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 13 (34:16):
Like that's the thing is football is a risky ass game.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But you didn't have to go up and get Lamar Jackson.
He fell in the ravens lap.

Speaker 8 (34:24):
But wouldn't you have gone up and gotten Lamar Jackson
if you could. I guess I get your point. It's
it's a high risk maneuver. I get it, and I
think you're right.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I know people got caught up with Lamar and they go, ah,
he can run, but Kenny throw. And my point is,
and you would know it better as a defensive back,
I need to get from A to B. I don't
have to look. You know, Jim Furix's golf swing is ugly.
He's a Hall of Famer and and that's you know,
it doesn't have to look like Dan Marino. It has

(34:54):
to act like Dan Marino, and getting it from A
to B is what he's done.

Speaker 13 (34:58):
You're right.

Speaker 8 (34:59):
I mean, I don't dis agree with you, and I
can't argue with the numbers when it comes to making
decisions like it never really pays off to cobble together
picks and move up like you see Michael Parson's falls
of mind is a great player who falls to you.
I think you're right generally, and I think generally it's

(35:19):
more advantageous to throw the ball than it is to
run the ball. However, there are situations where you have
to go against the status quo and make these decisions.
And I guess, from my perspective, the person that I
imagine that I am, and the type of general manager
coach that I imagine I would be would be one who's.

Speaker 13 (35:37):
Not sitting back hoping the odds work for me.

Speaker 8 (35:40):
It's one who plays the odds as much as possible
until I see an opportunity, and then I say, this
is my spot. We're going all in because I'm not
going to go out like I just do what everyone
said and it didn't work out for me. I'd rather
be fired because they could point to the one risky
decision I made and it didn't work out, or then
I'm the greatest coach of all time because I figured out.

Speaker 13 (36:00):
I cracked the code.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
He's Dominique Foxworth, the In Season Football podcast three times
a week, also contributor to ESPN's Get Up. Great to
talk to you man. Thanks for joining us. All right,
it's Dominique. Let's take a break back after this.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
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Speaker 2 (36:26):
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I like that one. Lions had won six in a row.

(36:48):
They're averaging thirty six points per game. You know, you
look at Baltimore great offense. Looks like the Lions are
a better offense right now. Steelers Commanders, spicy. These are
two teams in first place in their respective divisions. And
you have Jayden Daniels against Russell Wilson Junior the third

(37:11):
mm hmm. We mentioned ole Miss hosting Georgia and if
ole Miss you know that loss to Kentucky that that's
gonna hurt, that's gonna that's gonna leave a mark there.
But they have one two in a row. But they
can't lose this game. Got to win this game. Alabama
at LSU, loser is done. Can you say that confidently?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Paul Alabama has some roots to still get in there.
They get a lot of them saban spillover credibility. So
if they had three losses somehow, there's a way. Okay,
they're gonna need some help.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Men's college basketball Baylor against Arkansas. That's number eight Baylor,
number sixteen Arkansas John Caliperry taking on bail. Todd has
a problem with Arkansas scheduling lipscam and.

Speaker 14 (38:06):
On your debut game on a you know, after I'm
leaving Kentucky for Arkansas and that's your first.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Game, Well you want to win your first game.

Speaker 14 (38:12):
Yeah, but that's not really count as a win, I
guess in the standings, but no other way.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Technically it does justin the standing. Yeah, I don't think
you need to come out of the gate and say,
you know, we want Yukon.

Speaker 13 (38:23):
Play Kansas or Michigan State are.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, you have some of these teams next week who
have some there's some marque matchups.

Speaker 14 (38:29):
That's when the season really starts.

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the best week in sports? Any sport, any person, any team, anybody? Yes?
WHOA Todd?

Speaker 14 (38:48):
Yeah, I'm excited about this one. I'm giving it to
Matthew Stafford and the Rams now at four and four
right there, a half game behind the Cardinals NFC West
overtime come back victory of the Seahawks and they host
the Dolphins on Monday Night. Foot all coming up in
a few days. It's all about the Rams right now
for you.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
I think Cooper Flag has had a great week.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
He has, I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Okay, Uh, the people are already writing columns about how
Cooper Flag has to join the Eastern Conference in order
to balance the league. All of the hype leading up
to appears to be paying off, and people are already
jumping him ahead.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Let's slow down on that.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Okay, that's fine, that's fine, we can slow down.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I think he's having a good week, Marvin.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I'm gonna go with your Cleveland Cavaliers start out nine
and oh the Milwaukee twice. They beat the Pelicans, they
beat the Magic, they beat the Lakers. Yeah, great week
for them, great start, okay, Paul. Best week in sports
BYU football.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
You know, the conferences may change in a few years,
but right now.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
You may have just jinked them against you.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Should I retrack that staate?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, when the Utes pick up the victory, the people
BYU are going to be upset at you. You why you?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
They're eight to No. They control their own destiny.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
You can't control your destiny, right, which is fun to
say that. I know but we say it all the time,
but you can't control your destiny.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Hence destiny it's written for you. Yes, you can't control it,
even if you're BYU at nine to zero or eight.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yes, they're going to try to control their destiny against
Utah coming up this week.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Have you said that line Notre Dame Florida State. I
think it's like twenty eight and a half.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Notre Dame has favored by twenty eight and a hat.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I gotta check. It is so ugly for Florida State
right now. I got Notre Dame given them twenty six
and a half and the over unders only forty two
and a half.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh, Florida State's going to score a touchdown. That's it.
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get his thoughts on what was called in what wasn't
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