November 8, 2024 • 41 mins
Former NFL CB and current NFL insider, Domonique Foxworth joined the show today to discuss the Baltimore Ravens big Thursday night win over their division rival Cincinnati Bengals, and FOX Sports NFL and College Football rules analyst Dean Blandino stopped by to share his thoughts on the controversial ending to Thursday Night Football.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Bengals thirty five thirty four, it's weird to have at
least for me an opinion on both teams and have
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a negative opinion on both teams after a game like that,
because with the Bengals, they don't have defense, and it
is rearing its ugly head here. They do have offense.
The Ravens have offense, but they don't have defense. Now,
for one, I'm thinking about just getting into the playoffs.
The Bengals the Ravens. I'm thinking about bigger picture winning
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a super Bowl. They're not going to win a super
Bowl this way. You know, you're barely scraping by Cincinnati.
And Cincinnati is a good team. They don't have a
good record. They can put up points, and both of
these quarterbacks look wonderful last night. But I'm looking at
the Ravens bigger picture because we saw the playoff version
of the Ravens last year, and they were great last year.
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I mean, they had a really good defense and a
really good offense. They have a really really good offense
this year and an average defense. Let's say I was
going to give grades Kansas City Chiefs offense. Let's say
I just said a B potential for a B plus.
Their defense is an A. If I said the Ravens
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offense I'll give you an A, but that defense, I'm
probably giving you a C minus the defensive backs. The
secondary not good. And you normally think of the Ravens
they run the football and they play great defense. Well,
they are running the football, they're really passing the football
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a whole lot more. But the defense not holding up
its end of the bargain. Now, let's get to the end,
because yes, would've gone for two. Yes, I would have
because your defense is getting you know, roughed up.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Second half. You guys got exposed. Go for it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You're on the road, go for the win. And I
had no problem with it. The problem I had that
there were a couple of penalties on that two point conversion.
Certainly they hit to I mean you could have called
two penalties on Burrow. He got hit after the play
and you got hit in the face, in the face mask.
You want to call holding, Okay, I mean there's going
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to be holding on those plays. It's like a hail Mary.
If you want to call it, you can that play.
Was it egregious? I had more of a problem that
the tight end didn't go deeper into the end zone.
You know, the Ravens did a good job in kind
of pushing him back a little bit. And therefore, even
if he caught the pass, I don't think he gets
the two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But that was a old.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Fashioned shootout against two teams that don't like each other
very I don't know if teams like each other. You
know when we say they don't like each other. I
don't know how many times you see a game and
you go, you know, those two teams like each other.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, I would say to the flip side, I don't know
how many teams hate each.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Other anymore, But do you like each other?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Maybe maybe hate is too strong, But is like too
strong a word? Like these two don't like each other.
Okay historically yes, but like the Ravens and the Steelers
hate each other.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I bet Jamar Chase and Lamar Jackson are pretty cool actually.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
After last night.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, Jamar Chase had eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty
four yards and three touchdowns, So he's the first player
in league history to have multiple games with at least
two hundred and fifty receiving yards and three receiving touchdowns.
Stat of the Day stat of the day, That beast
stat of the day stat of the.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
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Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know, Chase had one of those games where you go, boy,
that's right, he's right there. Now we talk about Justin Jefferson,
there there's a few wide receivers where there's nobody in
Justin Jefferson's category, I don't think, but Jamar Chase can
be in that category. What he did against Baltimore. He
had four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards in two
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games against Baltimore this year, four hundred and fifty seven.
That is an NFL record for one player against another
team in a single season, and he beat the previous
record by thirty yards. And there are times when you
watch and you go, boy, he makes it look easy. Now,
Baltimore's secondary certainly assisted in that, but when Burrow and
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Jamar Chase are on, they are as good, probably better
than any other combination in football.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yes, Mark Joe Burrow through to Justin Jefferson and Jamar
Chase on the same team. Yeah, crazy, that sounds that
is the great his college offense ever.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's why he had sixty touchdown passes that that final
year at LSU. And then you have Lamar Jackson like, oh,
by the way, with Lamar Jackson, another great performance. And
what he does is he beats the Cincinnati Bengals. I
think he's lost one one time to the Cincinnati Bengals.
And the other thing is he's not getting hit when
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you drop back to pass. And we've seen this where
you're gonna and Burrow got hit last night. He got
hit a lot. I think Lamar Jackson got hit once,
So Burrow got hit twelve times. Lamar Jackson, coming into
last night's game had been hit nineteen times on dropbacks
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this season total, So let's make that twenty twenty hits
on him. Among the quarterbacks who have at least one
hundred and fifty dropbacks this season, the only guy who
has been hit in the pocket fewer times is a
fellow MVP candidate, Josh Allen was sixteen.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Whoo how stall of a day? Stand to day? Stantata day,
Stannata day. This is the stant of the day. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
By comparison, Geno Smith has been hit sixty two times,
Deshaun Watson fifty seven times, c J. Stroud forty nine times,
Aaron Rodgers forty nine times, Kirk Cousins forty eight times.
This is crazy Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen getting the
protection and those are your two leading candidates for MVP now,
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and I'm gonna throw Jared goff In there as well.
But Lamar Jackson is putting up better numbers than last year.
And once again, I hope that the voters don't do this.
I hope they don't hold the postseason against Lamar Jackson
for what he's doing in the regular season to say yes,
but now I can do that to the team. I'm
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not going to do that for a regular season award
with Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn't throw, Remember he
was one dimensional. We weren't quite sure. You saw him
at Louisville Highlights and we wondered, well, you don't have
to throw the same way. It has to get there.
It's like golf swings. If you look at Jim Furicks swing,
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you'd go he can't be a good golfer. We he's
a Hall of Famer. Not everybody's going to look like
Ernie Else when he swings the golf club. Not everybody's
going to look like Joe Montana or Tom Brady's. It
needs to get from here to there. That's it doesn't matter.
Now you can say, well side arm if you're shorter
gets knocked down. I understand all of that. Lamar Jackson
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doesn't have that wow look at that throw or the
form of look at that throw, but he gets it
from A to B and he's done extremely well with that.
You have the threat of him running, not as much
as in previous years because you have Derrick Henry. It's
they have to score just about You're got to score
at least thirty points.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And that's where I go.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The negative part of this is if you faced Kansas
City today. Let's say the Ravens played Kansas City today
AFC Title Game and it's probably going to be in
Kansas City. They couldn't put them away in Baltimore last year.
Who were you taking?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You're taking Kansas City now.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Paulie likes to say, between those two, whoever has the
ball last, That's probably who I'm taking. I would take
Kansas City over Baltimore because I feel like I have
a complete team and the offense isn't as good as Baltimore's,
but that defense is a whole lot better. And it
comes to postseason, it's defense making plays or not making plays.
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And if you throw in the element of Mahomes has
been there and done this before, I would And I
don't know what the odds the number would be. Can
we check with Vegas or DraftKings. Let's say AFC Title
game today, Kansas City Baltimore in Kansas City. I gotta
believe Kansas City would be three and a half point favorite.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yes, Marvin, And even if the Ravens had the ball last,
Chris Jones on the other side of the ball, Yes,
and he's going to make a play.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Chris Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He's not the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes, but he is
the that guy's on the field and he'll probably make
a play. And that's how we assess Patrick Mahomes. So
here is the call of the Ravens stopping the two
point conversion last night.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Burrow takes the snap, Ravens brings Bliss pressure, Burrow throws
at the end zone.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's in complete.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It's in complete and with thirty eight seconds left the
play by Hazel Lebarno. What a wild way end to
night as the Ravens will sweep the series from the
Bengals and improved just seven and three.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
The Hey he is in the Barn ninety eight Rock
Ravens Radio Network. Here's Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
He's gonna make the opportunities that are there, make the plays.
You know, we did in spots and we didn't in
spots tonight, and that's the story of our season. So Dean,
I'm going to do everything in my power to continue
to be ready for the opportunities that come, try to
take advantage of them.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not done done on the Bengals.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think they got the Chargers in LA coming up.
They got the Steelers a couple of times. They but
you know you're looking for a wild card spot. Are
they better than the Broncos. Yes, but the Broncos have
a better record. Can they get to.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Nine wins?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Nine wins might do it in the AMC, So you
have to have five wins in seven games, very very
small margin for era. I think the end they end
the season against the Steelers, Steelers would love nothing better
than to bounce them.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Those two teams don't like each other. Yes, Pony, it.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Would be great if that were for the wild card spot.
But your Bengals have Chargers, Steelers, then they get Cowboys, Titans, Browns,
Broncos some winnable December.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
The call so they don't end the season with the Steelers.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
You have the Steelers to on January fifth, Okay and
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (12:35):
We make way for Dominique Foxworth, ESPN writer, commentator and
also he's got his own podcast and he contributes to
Get Up. Former NFL player, grew up in Baltimore, University
of Maryland. Probably still Ravens fans, so maybe his opinion
is slanted a little bit here.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Dominie's first of all, Dan, thanks for having me. I'm
not still a very fan because I never was a
Ravens fan. They didn't get a team there until I
was like fourteen, and by then I was trying to
get a scholarship and get some girls to like me.
It's too late to become a fan when you're like fourteen, right,
I'm in ninth grade.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Who did you grow up liking?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
I just love football. I was a big Barry Sanders fan.
One of my best friends was a Cowboys fan, so
then of course I had the root for forty nine
ers and Jerry Rice. So yeah, I didn't really have
a team. And when you're I don't know if anybody
else can relate, But we had Washington had a team,
but we're Baltimore, so we're close enough to Washington to
hate them and be far enough away that you can't
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actually consider that your team, so like you root against them,
and ironically I live in DC.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Now, okay, give me the headline. What is the headline
after last night's game? And should there be a different
headline from last night's game?
Speaker 9 (13:52):
So I think the headline from last night's game is
probably some weird pun on Lamar's name. It's probably at
the top headline because that's what that game really felt
like it was about. And honestly, I watch a lot
of film and try to analyze the like schematic decisions
in all these games, and I'm not rewatching last night's
coaches film because it wasn't about scheme. It was about
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Jamar Chase being better than everybody on the field, Lamar
Jackson being better than everybody on the field. And I
think the next headline would probably be about the Ravens
defense might cost them a shot at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I can come
away with a not negative angles on this. But with
the Bengals, they lose another close game and I thought
that they were going to win that game last night,
and then I look at the Ravens and I have
to look at a bigger picture. So I'm going to
extrapolate and go, what's this mean for them? Bigger picture?
Can they beat Kansas City in Kansas City in January?
Speaker 9 (14:52):
It depends on the week. You talked to me a
couple weeks ago. I would have said yes. Then you
see what d Hop is doing there, and you see
how poor this defense is play and it feels like
a no. And if they win. I mean, the Ravens
offense is so impressive this season that it's possible that
they could score on every drive, and that seems like
that's what they're gonna have to do to beat anybody
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in the playoffs. Right now, this defense is a problem.
And it's weird because they have so many big names
and players that we know to be good, from Mattabik
to Smith to Hamilton's out with the ankle and Humphrey.
But then you get out there and it's just they
can't get pressure. That's when it comes down. They can't
get pressure. The simulated pressures that they use to trick
people early in the season and last season they're not working.
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And they've had quite a brain drain there from the
decordinator to I think Denard Wilson was probably the next
best coach on that on that team, and he's moved
on to be a very good, seems like defensive coordinator
down to Tennessee. So I think that's really hurting them.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Also, Okay, you played the game final two minutes there?
Do you want you want everything called?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
There? You know there was holding on that two point conversion.
Burrow got hit in the face mask there, Like, you know,
how do you guys, how how do you want it called?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (16:07):
I mean, I think you nailed it off the top
with the biases. Whatever team I'm on, I'm creating a
rationale around that. But honestly, if I am a coach
and if I'm a leader on one of those teams,
shut the hell up and play man like. That's what
it comes down to for us is normally those calls
I feel like complaining about the referees is also like
complaining about the weather. It's like it's not your control,
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yet it's going to impact the game. There was a
holding call on the Ravens on that fourth and two
earlier in the game that I thought was a little
TICKI tac. It sucks when you're on the wrong end
of those, but it just kind of happens. And neither
of those felt like egregious at the end, which I
know is not a consolation to anybody who wanted the
Bengals to win. But that little tap on a face
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masks a defensive player, that's ridiculous, Like, I never think
that should be called. Ever when someone gets their face
a quarterback gets his face mask grazed after he's release
the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh wait, do you think Mahomes gets that call?
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Probably? Okay, okay, yeah, all right, the rules are a
little different for certain But why, I mean, I think
that we're human, the refs are human. You're influenced by
those things. I think the reason why they called that
holding on Jamar Chase early in the game that I
thought on Stevens that I didn't think was a real
call was because it's Jamar Chase and they expect Jamar
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Chase to be open, and he's not wide open. There
must be something.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Wrong when it comes to MVP. And I've been on
this campaign on this soapbox. I hope they don't hold
what Lamar Jackson doesn't do in the playoffs against him
during the regular season, because you know we're gonna get there,
We're gonna go, You're gonna give Lamar another MVP. And
he's like, I don't remember them ever saying that about
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Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or farv. It just it
feels like we're so postseason content of what we do
in the regular season, you know, the joker in the NBA,
it felt like, uh, he's got to win. Okay, then
he won. Now, Yannis, He's got to win. Then he won.
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Now people are like, why did Inbiid get the MVP?
You know, he like, it's weird how we do that.
And I hope that the voters don't do that with
Lamar this year. If he is the MVP, he's the MVP,
and it's called the regular season MVP.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
We wanted to match up because these are the only things,
as we get further from history, the only things that
we can point to is like who won MVP, who
won the Super Bowl, and so we wanted to match up.
We want the MVPs to also be the guys who
dominated the playoffs, and you're right, it influences the way
that we appreciate their their following seasons. And Lamar has
to do it in the playoffs obviously, but when you
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are playing the way he is playing this year, there
really is There's no question that he's the MVP of
the league right now. He's making it such that all
the important important passing category he's number one in and
then he does ridiculous things like he did last night
on the sideline in the red zone to make plays
that or make yeah, make plays that allow them to win,
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that go far beyond coaching or any talent of the
players around him.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We're talking to Dominique Funksworth, ESPN writer and commentaryor you
can see him on Get Up.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
He has his own podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The biggest reason I want to have you on is
I think you brought this up maybe on Monday, that
you felt like Buffalo Bill's players were easing up on Tua,
as if to consciously say we don't want to end
his career.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
How did you come to that conclusion?
Speaker 9 (19:38):
It was just watching the game and it popped into
my head when I saw it on that fourth down,
and also when I saw it on one of the
past rushing attempts, And it wasn't like a completely prevalent thing,
but it looked odd to me, and maybe I was
out there looking for it because we all were kind
of nervous watching to a play. And it shocked me
because that's not the mentality I would have had, or
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the mentality any player that I've played with would have
ever had. And I could be wrong. I'm sure no
Bills players would step up and say that, and I
imagine that Tua did not experience it that way. But
when I was watching the game, particularly that fourth down
went to a dove for the first down, an important moment.
That's a play that you normally meet him head to
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head right there. So I'm not passing any judgment one
way to other. But that was the way that I
experienced that game, and it shocks me.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But did you ever ease up on somebody for any reason?
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Hell No, Like never. I had one play where Eddie
Royal I think eased up on me. He was a receiver.
For the Broncos and Jay Cutler was scrambling. He scrambled
left and then he came back right and instead of
hitting me in the head on the blind side block,
which was legal back then, Eddie hit me in the chest.
So I was awake when I got up and coughed
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up some blood I had, and I thanked Eddie. I
got traded from the Broncos earlier in that season, so
we were teammates, and I was like, I appreciate it
because he could have knocked me out, but instead he
bruised my lung or something. I don't know what he did.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Who's the guy that you faced where you went? This
isn't fair, this guy is I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I'm sorry to finished the question, but it's an easy one.
It's a question that I get often. And the funny
thing is I in my career, I always liked the big, fast,
long strider receivers like Randy Moss. I was like, I
played well against them. The guys I struggled more with
was like the quick change the direction guys. But Randy
was just special man. It was it was always a
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task like I played well against to and those bigger guys.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But Randy Nah, Randy's underrated.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
It's it's funny because my son I coached my son's
flag football team and we're champions once again, which was nice.
But it's funny that you say that. But these kids
play a game called moss and it's like he is
somewhat underrated, but he is also like kind of the
prototype when we talk about a receiver. Everyone's the way
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that we years ago would compare people to. Rice Mosta
is the guy that everyone young kids compare.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
To, who can do more damage in the postseason. The
Steelers are the Commanders.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Who I'm a sucker man. It's I want to give
you some real smart, deep analysis. But the Commander's got
a better quarterback, and I think the Marshawn ladder More
acquisition means more. In the NFC, there's like a dearth
of great quarterback play. Have a hard time imagining Russell
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Wilson going past Lamar and Alan and Mahomes. It's easier
for me to see a situation where Daniels pulls off
a few surprise victories in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Jared Golf's having a six game stretch that's the best
we've seen in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But it's weird how he just sort of is there.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And I liken it too, when you get traded and
they throw in draft picks to get you out of town.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think that has stayed with Jared Goff. You got
to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
With the Rams, but you didn't do anything, and it's
almost like Sean McVay got you there, Like, how do
you assess Jared Goff's career?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I mean, it's similar to the questions you were asking earlier,
where it's about perception, like about Lamar. It's the same
sort of thing. Is we have to get over those
biases that we have where someone is drafted is going
to change the way that we feel about him. What
they've done in the past is going to change the
way we feel about him. And I think a lot
of the criticism of Jared Goff, even in his success,
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is valid. Until last year's playoff run, he made the
plays like he was making the plays even when some
people were dropping him. He was making the plays that
we expected. But what I don't want to do is
pretend that he's more important to his team than some
of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about. This is
an offensive line driven team. Like this is Penne Seul
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is the MVP of that team.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's interesting that you say that. Is there a most
must win game of the weekend for you in the NFL?
Like this team has to win this weekend.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
That's a tough one. I mean, it would have been
the Bengals because they want to stay in the hunt.
It comes down to probably the Jets. It's you look
around divisions, you know, Like that's the way that I
think about it is like who's in a division. There
are a lot of teams and divisions that they can
they can survive without winning. The Jets are in a
situation where they can't afford to lose anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But I think they might be that's against the Cardinals. Yeah,
the Cardinals. Why isn't Trey Lance playing for the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (24:58):
My guess is that Trey Lance is very good. And
you remember that draft and how unique the COVID situation
was and where Trey came from in his play seven
man football in high school and a small college. Like
my guess is all the tools, like the Josh Allen
era of quarterbacks where all coaches thought was you needed
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with tools and we can make you into something. This
is one of the casualties. I feel like of the
Josh Allen experiment working out, other coaches thought they could
do it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, but you have Cooper Rush, who's what thirty one?
You already know what you have. I just thought maybe
the Cowboys give him a chance to play a little bit.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Yeah, I don't think that's a terrible idea unless he's terrible.
That's the thing is, like the players know, and there's
some things you can't get away with. And my guess
is the reason why the forty nine ers came up
off of them despite all of what they put into
it was in part because he's just not very good.
I think the rest of the Cowboys, how do you
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scout and whiff that badly?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's a tough So that's the thing is.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
I've been arguing on the side of and this is
probably a broader conversation about analytics, but I've been arguing
on the side of the Michael Pennocks draft pick despite
the fact that everyone doesn't like it, and I argued
for the Trey Lance draft pick also that that was
the guy that you want to pick in part because
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these moves that look stupid in hindsight, like there are
so many of them, but you have to do some
stupid stuff to kind of crack the code. Like there's
if you follow the traditional status quo, you will be
amongst the pack. And of course the volatility of your
decision goes up, so nine times out of ten, if
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you do something risky, you're gonna be wrong. But if
you sincerely believe that you found some spot in there
that other people haven't figured out, then that's how you
have success. And that's the thing. Like we point to
the running back situation, that's like the current version of
it where everyone's like, you don't pay running backs. The
reason why that rule exists is because some dumb general
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managers will overpay running backs. But it's not a hard
and fast rule, you know, Like I think that absolutes
are for children and dumb people, but smart people look
and say, oh, eight million dollars for Derick Henry. Yeah,
I take that, and I think that if there were
if I had a choice between a shutdown corner or
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an unblockable pass rusher or all pro level running back,
I go for the corner or the pass rusher. But
they don't cost eight million dollars. So if I have
that choice, then you go with the guy who's eight
million dollars. We see Saquon and McCaffrey, Like, these are
unique situations and being comfortable and that's why, like these
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are decisions are often made by coaches that are in
have security or teams have security because these are unique situations.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Well, the Chiefs they cracked the code. They had Alex
Smith and they draft Patrick Mahomes. The forty nine ers
had Alex Smith, they took Colin Kaepernick. Like you, but exactly,
I don't like when you can get a guy and
you don't have to trade up to get the guy.
So when you spend, you want to take a risk
up top, okay, but don't compound it by saying, and
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we're gonna give you, you know, first round picks here.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Then I have a problem with cracking the code.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
And in less in less, Trey Lance was Lamar Jackson.
Like that's the thing is football is a risky ass game.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But you didn't have to go up and get Lamar Jackson.
He fell in the Ravens lap.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
But wouldn't you have gone up and gotten Lamar Jackson
if you could, I guess I get your point. It's
it's a high risk maneuver. I get it, and I
think you're right.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I know people got caught up with Lamar and they go, ah,
he can run, but Kenny throw. And my point is,
and you would know better. As a defensive back, I
need to get from A to B. I don't have
to look. You know, Jim Furix's golf swing is ugly.
He's a Hall of Famer, and that's you know, it
doesn't have to look like Dan Marino. It has to
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act like Dan Marino, and getting it from A to
B is what he's done.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You're right.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
I mean, I don't disagree with you, and I can't
argue with the numbers when it comes to making decisions
like it never really pays off to cobble together picks
and move up like you see Michael Parson's falls of
mind is a great player who falls to you. I
think you're right generally, and I think generally it's more
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advantageous to throw the ball than it is to run
the ball. However, there are situations where you have to
go against the status quo and maybe these decisions. And
I guess from my perspective, the person that I imagine
that I am, and the type of general managerer coach
that I imagine I would be would be one who's
not sitting back hoping the odds work for me. One
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who plays the odds as much as possible until I
see an opportunity, and then I say, ah, this is
my spot. We're going all in because I'm not gonna
go out like I just do what everyone said and
it didn't work out for me. I'd rather be fired
because they could point to the one risky decision I
made and it didn't work out, or then I'm the
greatest coach of all time because I figured out I
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cracked the code.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
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Speaker 2 (30:29):
Great to talk to you man, Thanks for joining us
on no problem, Thank you, all right, It's Dominique.
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and is going to be.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
What dot hot uh?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Which can I see happening more Bengals getting into a
wild card or the Ravens winning the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now Bengals have about sixty percent of that vote. Oh okay,
I'm a little surprised at that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, winning the super Bowl is, yeah, but you're you're
viewed as the second Actually, I.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Can say that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Okay, winning the Super Bowl is difficult to do, true, Right,
I'm gonna have to have a little larger sample size
on that. It looked into Jimmy Jimmerson there. You know what,
maybe we get a little Jimmy Jimmerson on the Ravens
chances to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Right now, the Bengals are trying to figure out why
their record is so terrible when they're playing this. Well, yeah,
and winning the super Bowl is very difficult, thank you,
Thank you, Jimmy. Yeah, and that could be making two
point two seventy five million dollars a year doing you could.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Get a job at ESPN. I might. I might by
just being Jimmy Jimmerson being Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
My sources are telling me the exact same thing that
Adam Schefter's sources told him.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Jamar Chase had a night eleven receptions, two hundred and
sixty four yards, and three touchdowns. He had four hundred
and fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore
this season, four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's one of those.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You're the secondary, you're the defensive coordinator, Dean piece, you
know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
There's nothing you could do.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You can't go wow, didn't know that guy was that good.
It's okay, Jamar's gonna get the ball. We got to
make sure he doesn't get the ball that often, and
when he does, he doesn't score touchdowns. But the big
story was the officiating at the end of the game.
Certainly here is Zach Taylor, Bengals head coach.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
We got to find a way to close out these games.
You know, we had our opportunity. We got down there,
went for two and just didn't work out for us.
But this team's going to continue to put us in
good positions and there's going to be a point the
season where that turns and we'll respond the right way.
From this game, we got a one game season next
week against the Chargers before the buye and so we'll
get our bodies right and get ready to go fight them.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, you got Chargers, bye week, Steelers. You got Steelers
twice in the last six or seven games of the season.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Dean Blandino.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
He's doing college and NFL games on Fox, including Colorado,
Texas Tech and the Falcons in the Saints. Former head
of officials for the NFL. You know, we only call
you when somebody's upset about something, So thanks for joining us.
Let's look at that play, that two point conversion. What
do you see and was it called correctly?
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Well, no, it wasn't called correctly. You watch the contact
on JASICKI, I mean he's held. And I went back
and watched the coaches film the All twenty two and
the back judge, who's in the middle of the field
and actually standing on the endline, is responsible for that action.
And the back judge actually reaches first flag, and there's
a mechanic where you see the action, you see the hold,
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and then you find the football and if the ball
is out somewhere else already, then then there's no flag
because the theory is there's no impact on the play
and the back just looked and Burrow was kind of
in the in the process of throwing, and I think
that's why he didn't throw the flag. But it's early
enough where that's clearly a hole. It should have been
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called and then you go to the contact on Burrow.
I mean it's it's forcible contact to the headneck area.
There's no way, there's no way around it. Referee looks
to be in good position, just just either felt it
wasn't enough, didn't see it. But it's a foul and
you know the Bengals should have had another shot at it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But ken officials do they Let's say, somebody sees it
or can you gather can you get yeah, I mean,
it doesn't happen very often, Dean, And I don't know
if it's because of pride, professional pride of hey I
didn't see it, or I mean I didn't see it
that way, or you know, whatever it might be. I
would think, collectively, we have to get this right. Whether
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you got it right or not, we do no.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
Doubt and pride goes out the window. They don't. Nobody
wants the game to be officiated perfectly more than the officials.
And we know perfections not a not a reasonable expectation.
But yeah, they get together. You know the contact on Burrow,
the umpire is the other official and in addition to
the referee, who could see that and if there umpire
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sees it and says hey, yeah, I've got contact to
the headneck area. Okay, great, let's let's drop a flag
or if another official. I think at the goal line,
you're going to have one set of eyes on each
of those receivers, so there's going to be less help
in that action. But yeah, absolutely you want them to
get together. If somebody sees something a different way, okay, But.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Do you see a point where we we start with
the final two minutes where we're there's a you know,
the eye in the sky is able to say, guys,
you miss this, let's clean this up. Do we get
to that point where this is what we're going to do,
and let's say we just start out with the final
two minutes.
Speaker 11 (37:06):
We're heading in that direction. Absolutely. You look at the
couple weeks ago, right, Sam Donold Thursday night, we don't
get the face mask in the end zone, big play safety.
So yeah, we're headed in that direction. I think the
Competition Committee has always taken a more measured approach, and
right now there's some situations when there's a flag down,
replay can assist. I think we're gonna see I don't
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know when, if it's next year, if it's three years,
five years, we're gonna see somebody up there that's going
to say, hey, and the last two minutes is a perfect,
perfect starting place or is it scoring plays as the turnovers?
Because officials aren't perfect. There's one hundred and fifty to
one hundred and fifty five plays a game. Overwhelming number
of decisions are correct, but there's four or five plays
that really affect the outcome, that decide the outcome, and
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you got to be perfect on those plays, and a
lot of them happen in the last two minutes. So yeah,
it's a great starting place, and I think that'll be
an off season discuss with the committee for sure.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I never understood this with the NBA that the star
players would get calls or the benefit of the doubt,
because I always thought they're the stars, they don't need
the benefit of the doubt. It's the guy who's the
ninth man on the bench. Does Mahomes gets, you know,
preferential treatment because he's Patrick Mahomes. Did Brady get preferential
treatment because he was Tom Brady?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
And if so, why?
Speaker 11 (38:24):
I think that's a perception. I really do high profile. Look,
Tom Brady probably the greatest of all time. Patrick Mahomes
on his way there. So there's going to be more eyeballs,
there's going to be more attention, whether they get the
call they don't. But when you look at the numbers,
and I don't know the numbers this year, but whenever
we did that, whenever we did a deep dive, it
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wasn't that Tom Brady's or the Peyton Mannings, you know,
or the Patrick Mahomes that were getting all the calls.
It was more even imbalanced. And you know, look, there's
kind of this perception that Joe Burrow doesn't get at
those calls.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
You know.
Speaker 11 (39:01):
I read today that he needs to start arguing more,
he needs to start complaining more. I don't officials don't
the good ones that doesn't affect them. They want to
get it right and it doesn't matter if it's Tom
Brady or if it's a you know, a backup quarterback
that's in the game. So yeah, I think that's more perception.
I don't think that's reality. But look, sometimes perception becomes reality.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, but Brady jawing at you and you're an official,
that doesn't impact.
Speaker 11 (39:27):
It could go one or two ways. Because I've I've
I've heard officials that said, you're not going to get that.
The more you jaw it me, the more I'm gonna
I'm not, you know, like, oh this guy, like all right,
shut up? You know and I and I work with
Tom now and I love him and he's he's a sweetheart.
I can't believe I say, you used to complain a lot.
That's not what I'm getting from you today.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
What current rule do we have to do away with?
H You know, I don't.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
I just I honestly think today and I never would
have said this ten or fifteen years ago. I think
it's what we're talking about. I think it is giving
the officials, giving somebody the opportunity to help correct some
of these mistakes. And I use mistakes, you know. I
think it's just lack of a better term, because the
game is so fast.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Indeed, we keep hearing we need to make them full time,
Like what does being full time? Your eyesight doesn't get better?
And like you missed that call.
Speaker 11 (40:25):
That call happens. That call is missed whether they're full
time or not. And then during this season they are
as full time as anybody else. They spend hours upon
hours upon hours looking at film. You're never going to
prevent that call. You know, you're gonna have situations where
they miss calls. I don't think it's full time. I
think we've gotten to the point where the technology is
so good and it can be seamless, where if you
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and I are sitting up there and I go, oh man,
we just missed a hit on the quarterback. Hey guys,
put a flag down. I think that's where we're headed.
I think we got to get there. I think it
has to be limited. You can't. What we don't want
is somebody reofficiate every aspect of everything. You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
True.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's always great to talk to you. One of these
days we'll have you on and uh we'll just you know,
talk about you know, just.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
Say hey, great again of officiating. Love to talk to you, Dean.
How's the family one day?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Congratulations on your Dodgers too. Oh thanks, Jan, It's Dean Blandino.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We did it. We made it to a Friday morale
is high.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Just went out and inspected the Traeger grills Chicken in
sausage gumbo today.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're not playing around today. Who's got it better than
we do? No body?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
This is kind of a precursor to the super Bowl
in New Orleans. I said to Tyler, could you whip
up a little New Orleans for me? He said, got it? Boss,
Chicken in sausage gumbo today.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
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you can place your order. The Ravens holding off the
Bengals thirty five thirty four, it's weird to have at
least for me an opinion on both teams and have
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a negative opinion on both teams after a game like that,
because with the Bengals, they don't have defense, and it
is rearing its ugly head here. They do have offense.
The Ravens have offense, but they don't have defense. Now,
for one, I'm thinking about just getting into the playoffs.
The Bengals the Ravens. I'm thinking about bigger picture winning
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a super Bowl. They're not going to win a super
Bowl this way. You know, you're barely scraping by Cincinnati.
And Cincinnati is a good team. They don't have a
good record. They can put up points, and both of
these quarterbacks look wonderful last night. But I'm looking at
the Ravens bigger picture because we saw the playoff version
of the Ravens last year, and they were great last year.
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I mean, they had a really good defense and a
really good offense. They have a really really good offense
this year and an average defense. Let's say I was
going to give grades Kansas City Chiefs offense. Let's say
I just said a B potential for a B plus.
Their defense is an A. If I said the Ravens
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offense I'll give you an A, but that defense, I'm
probably giving you a C minus the defensive backs. The
secondary not good. And you normally think of the Ravens
they run the football and they play great defense. Well,
they are running the football, they're really passing the football
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a whole lot more. But the defense not holding up
its end of the bargain. Now, let's get to the end,
because yes, would've gone for two. Yes, I would have
because your defense is getting you know, roughed up.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Second half. You guys got exposed. Go for it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You're on the road, go for the win. And I
had no problem with it. The problem I had that
there were a couple of penalties on that two point conversion.
Certainly they hit to I mean you could have called
two penalties on Burrow. He got hit after the play
and you got hit in the face, in the face mask.
You want to call holding, Okay, I mean there's going
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to be holding on those plays. It's like a hail Mary.
If you want to call it, you can that play.
Was it egregious? I had more of a problem that
the tight end didn't go deeper into the end zone.
You know, the Ravens did a good job in kind
of pushing him back a little bit. And therefore, even
if he caught the pass, I don't think he gets
the two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But that was a old.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Fashioned shootout against two teams that don't like each other
very I don't know if teams like each other. You
know when we say they don't like each other. I
don't know how many times you see a game and
you go, you know, those two teams like each other.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, I would say to the flip side, I don't know
how many teams hate each.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Other anymore, But do you like each other?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Maybe maybe hate is too strong, But is like too
strong a word? Like these two don't like each other.
Okay historically yes, but like the Ravens and the Steelers
hate each other.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I bet Jamar Chase and Lamar Jackson are pretty cool actually.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
After last night.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, Jamar Chase had eleven receptions, two hundred and sixty
four yards and three touchdowns, So he's the first player
in league history to have multiple games with at least
two hundred and fifty receiving yards and three receiving touchdowns.
Stat of the Day stat of the day, That beast
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Speaker 2 (04:50):
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Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know, Chase had one of those games where you go, boy,
that's right, he's right there. Now we talk about Justin Jefferson,
there there's a few wide receivers where there's nobody in
Justin Jefferson's category, I don't think, but Jamar Chase can
be in that category. What he did against Baltimore. He
had four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards in two
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games against Baltimore this year, four hundred and fifty seven.
That is an NFL record for one player against another
team in a single season, and he beat the previous
record by thirty yards. And there are times when you
watch and you go, boy, he makes it look easy. Now,
Baltimore's secondary certainly assisted in that, but when Burrow and
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Jamar Chase are on, they are as good, probably better
than any other combination in football.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yes, Mark Joe Burrow through to Justin Jefferson and Jamar
Chase on the same team. Yeah, crazy, that sounds that
is the great his college offense ever.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's why he had sixty touchdown passes that that final
year at LSU. And then you have Lamar Jackson like, oh,
by the way, with Lamar Jackson, another great performance. And
what he does is he beats the Cincinnati Bengals. I
think he's lost one one time to the Cincinnati Bengals.
And the other thing is he's not getting hit when
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you drop back to pass. And we've seen this where
you're gonna and Burrow got hit last night. He got
hit a lot. I think Lamar Jackson got hit once,
So Burrow got hit twelve times. Lamar Jackson, coming into
last night's game had been hit nineteen times on dropbacks
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this season total, So let's make that twenty twenty hits
on him. Among the quarterbacks who have at least one
hundred and fifty dropbacks this season, the only guy who
has been hit in the pocket fewer times is a
fellow MVP candidate, Josh Allen was sixteen.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Whoo how stall of a day? Stand to day? Stantata day,
Stannata day. This is the stant of the day. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
By comparison, Geno Smith has been hit sixty two times,
Deshaun Watson fifty seven times, c J. Stroud forty nine times,
Aaron Rodgers forty nine times, Kirk Cousins forty eight times.
This is crazy Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen getting the
protection and those are your two leading candidates for MVP now,
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and I'm gonna throw Jared goff In there as well.
But Lamar Jackson is putting up better numbers than last year.
And once again, I hope that the voters don't do this.
I hope they don't hold the postseason against Lamar Jackson
for what he's doing in the regular season to say yes,
but now I can do that to the team. I'm
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not going to do that for a regular season award
with Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn't throw, Remember he
was one dimensional. We weren't quite sure. You saw him
at Louisville Highlights and we wondered, well, you don't have
to throw the same way. It has to get there.
It's like golf swings. If you look at Jim Furicks swing,
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you'd go he can't be a good golfer. We he's
a Hall of Famer. Not everybody's going to look like
Ernie Else when he swings the golf club. Not everybody's
going to look like Joe Montana or Tom Brady's. It
needs to get from here to there. That's it doesn't matter.
Now you can say, well side arm if you're shorter
gets knocked down. I understand all of that. Lamar Jackson
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doesn't have that wow look at that throw or the
form of look at that throw, but he gets it
from A to B and he's done extremely well with that.
You have the threat of him running, not as much
as in previous years because you have Derrick Henry. It's
they have to score just about You're got to score
at least thirty points.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And that's where I go.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The negative part of this is if you faced Kansas
City today. Let's say the Ravens played Kansas City today
AFC Title Game and it's probably going to be in
Kansas City. They couldn't put them away in Baltimore last year.
Who were you taking?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You're taking Kansas City now.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Paulie likes to say, between those two, whoever has the
ball last, That's probably who I'm taking. I would take
Kansas City over Baltimore because I feel like I have
a complete team and the offense isn't as good as Baltimore's,
but that defense is a whole lot better. And it
comes to postseason, it's defense making plays or not making plays.
(09:53):
And if you throw in the element of Mahomes has
been there and done this before, I would And I
don't know what the odds the number would be. Can
we check with Vegas or DraftKings. Let's say AFC Title
game today, Kansas City Baltimore in Kansas City. I gotta
believe Kansas City would be three and a half point favorite.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yes, Marvin, And even if the Ravens had the ball last,
Chris Jones on the other side of the ball, Yes,
and he's going to make a play.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Chris Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He's not the equivalent of Patrick Mahomes, but he is
the that guy's on the field and he'll probably make
a play. And that's how we assess Patrick Mahomes. So
here is the call of the Ravens stopping the two
point conversion last night.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Burrow takes the snap, Ravens brings Bliss pressure, Burrow throws
at the end zone.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's in complete.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It's in complete and with thirty eight seconds left the
play by Hazel Lebarno. What a wild way end to
night as the Ravens will sweep the series from the
Bengals and improved just seven and three.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
The Hey he is in the Barn ninety eight Rock
Ravens Radio Network. Here's Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
He's gonna make the opportunities that are there, make the plays.
You know, we did in spots and we didn't in
spots tonight, and that's the story of our season. So Dean,
I'm going to do everything in my power to continue
to be ready for the opportunities that come, try to
take advantage of them.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm not done done on the Bengals.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think they got the Chargers in LA coming up.
They got the Steelers a couple of times. They but
you know you're looking for a wild card spot. Are
they better than the Broncos. Yes, but the Broncos have
a better record. Can they get to.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Nine wins?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Nine wins might do it in the AMC, So you
have to have five wins in seven games, very very
small margin for era. I think the end they end
the season against the Steelers, Steelers would love nothing better
than to bounce them.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Those two teams don't like each other. Yes, Pony, it.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Would be great if that were for the wild card spot.
But your Bengals have Chargers, Steelers, then they get Cowboys, Titans, Browns,
Broncos some winnable December.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
The call so they don't end the season with the Steelers.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
You have the Steelers to on January fifth, Okay and
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
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Speaker 3 (12:35):
We make way for Dominique Foxworth, ESPN writer, commentator and
also he's got his own podcast and he contributes to
Get Up. Former NFL player, grew up in Baltimore, University
of Maryland. Probably still Ravens fans, so maybe his opinion
is slanted a little bit here.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Dominie's first of all, Dan, thanks for having me. I'm
not still a very fan because I never was a
Ravens fan. They didn't get a team there until I
was like fourteen, and by then I was trying to
get a scholarship and get some girls to like me.
It's too late to become a fan when you're like fourteen, right,
I'm in ninth grade.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Who did you grow up liking?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
I just love football. I was a big Barry Sanders fan.
One of my best friends was a Cowboys fan, so
then of course I had the root for forty nine
ers and Jerry Rice. So yeah, I didn't really have
a team. And when you're I don't know if anybody
else can relate, But we had Washington had a team,
but we're Baltimore, so we're close enough to Washington to
hate them and be far enough away that you can't
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actually consider that your team, so like you root against them,
and ironically I live in DC.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Now, okay, give me the headline. What is the headline
after last night's game? And should there be a different
headline from last night's game?
Speaker 9 (13:52):
So I think the headline from last night's game is
probably some weird pun on Lamar's name. It's probably at
the top headline because that's what that game really felt
like it was about. And honestly, I watch a lot
of film and try to analyze the like schematic decisions
in all these games, and I'm not rewatching last night's
coaches film because it wasn't about scheme. It was about
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Jamar Chase being better than everybody on the field, Lamar
Jackson being better than everybody on the field. And I
think the next headline would probably be about the Ravens
defense might cost them a shot at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering, because I can come
away with a not negative angles on this. But with
the Bengals, they lose another close game and I thought
that they were going to win that game last night,
and then I look at the Ravens and I have
to look at a bigger picture. So I'm going to
extrapolate and go, what's this mean for them? Bigger picture?
Can they beat Kansas City in Kansas City in January?
Speaker 9 (14:52):
It depends on the week. You talked to me a
couple weeks ago. I would have said yes. Then you
see what d Hop is doing there, and you see
how poor this defense is play and it feels like
a no. And if they win. I mean, the Ravens
offense is so impressive this season that it's possible that
they could score on every drive, and that seems like
that's what they're gonna have to do to beat anybody
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in the playoffs. Right now, this defense is a problem.
And it's weird because they have so many big names
and players that we know to be good, from Mattabik
to Smith to Hamilton's out with the ankle and Humphrey.
But then you get out there and it's just they
can't get pressure. That's when it comes down. They can't
get pressure. The simulated pressures that they use to trick
people early in the season and last season they're not working.
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And they've had quite a brain drain there from the
decordinator to I think Denard Wilson was probably the next
best coach on that on that team, and he's moved
on to be a very good, seems like defensive coordinator
down to Tennessee. So I think that's really hurting them.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Also, Okay, you played the game final two minutes there?
Do you want you want everything called?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
There? You know there was holding on that two point conversion.
Burrow got hit in the face mask there, Like, you know,
how do you guys, how how do you want it called?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (16:07):
I mean, I think you nailed it off the top
with the biases. Whatever team I'm on, I'm creating a
rationale around that. But honestly, if I am a coach
and if I'm a leader on one of those teams,
shut the hell up and play man like. That's what
it comes down to for us is normally those calls
I feel like complaining about the referees is also like
complaining about the weather. It's like it's not your control,
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yet it's going to impact the game. There was a
holding call on the Ravens on that fourth and two
earlier in the game that I thought was a little
TICKI tac. It sucks when you're on the wrong end
of those, but it just kind of happens. And neither
of those felt like egregious at the end, which I
know is not a consolation to anybody who wanted the
Bengals to win. But that little tap on a face
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masks a defensive player, that's ridiculous, Like, I never think
that should be called. Ever when someone gets their face
a quarterback gets his face mask grazed after he's release
the ball.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh wait, do you think Mahomes gets that call?
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Probably? Okay, okay, yeah, all right, the rules are a
little different for certain But why, I mean, I think
that we're human, the refs are human. You're influenced by
those things. I think the reason why they called that
holding on Jamar Chase early in the game that I
thought on Stevens that I didn't think was a real
call was because it's Jamar Chase and they expect Jamar
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Chase to be open, and he's not wide open. There
must be something.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Wrong when it comes to MVP. And I've been on
this campaign on this soapbox. I hope they don't hold
what Lamar Jackson doesn't do in the playoffs against him
during the regular season, because you know we're gonna get there,
We're gonna go, You're gonna give Lamar another MVP. And
he's like, I don't remember them ever saying that about
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Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning or farv. It just it
feels like we're so postseason content of what we do
in the regular season, you know, the joker in the NBA,
it felt like, uh, he's got to win. Okay, then
he won. Now, Yannis, He's got to win. Then he won.
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Now people are like, why did Inbiid get the MVP?
You know, he like, it's weird how we do that.
And I hope that the voters don't do that with
Lamar this year. If he is the MVP, he's the MVP,
and it's called the regular season MVP.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
We wanted to match up because these are the only things,
as we get further from history, the only things that
we can point to is like who won MVP, who
won the Super Bowl, and so we wanted to match up.
We want the MVPs to also be the guys who
dominated the playoffs, and you're right, it influences the way
that we appreciate their their following seasons. And Lamar has
to do it in the playoffs obviously, but when you
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are playing the way he is playing this year, there
really is There's no question that he's the MVP of
the league right now. He's making it such that all
the important important passing category he's number one in and
then he does ridiculous things like he did last night
on the sideline in the red zone to make plays
that or make yeah, make plays that allow them to win,
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that go far beyond coaching or any talent of the
players around him.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We're talking to Dominique Funksworth, ESPN writer and commentaryor you
can see him on Get Up.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
He has his own podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The biggest reason I want to have you on is
I think you brought this up maybe on Monday, that
you felt like Buffalo Bill's players were easing up on Tua,
as if to consciously say we don't want to end
his career.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
How did you come to that conclusion?
Speaker 9 (19:38):
It was just watching the game and it popped into
my head when I saw it on that fourth down,
and also when I saw it on one of the
past rushing attempts, And it wasn't like a completely prevalent thing,
but it looked odd to me, and maybe I was
out there looking for it because we all were kind
of nervous watching to a play. And it shocked me
because that's not the mentality I would have had, or
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the mentality any player that I've played with would have
ever had. And I could be wrong. I'm sure no
Bills players would step up and say that, and I
imagine that Tua did not experience it that way. But
when I was watching the game, particularly that fourth down
went to a dove for the first down, an important moment.
That's a play that you normally meet him head to
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head right there. So I'm not passing any judgment one
way to other. But that was the way that I
experienced that game, and it shocks me.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But did you ever ease up on somebody for any reason?
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Hell No, Like never. I had one play where Eddie
Royal I think eased up on me. He was a receiver.
For the Broncos and Jay Cutler was scrambling. He scrambled
left and then he came back right and instead of
hitting me in the head on the blind side block,
which was legal back then, Eddie hit me in the chest.
So I was awake when I got up and coughed
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up some blood I had, and I thanked Eddie. I
got traded from the Broncos earlier in that season, so
we were teammates, and I was like, I appreciate it
because he could have knocked me out, but instead he
bruised my lung or something. I don't know what he did.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Who's the guy that you faced where you went? This
isn't fair, this guy is I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I'm sorry to finished the question, but it's an easy one.
It's a question that I get often. And the funny
thing is I in my career, I always liked the big, fast,
long strider receivers like Randy Moss. I was like, I
played well against them. The guys I struggled more with
was like the quick change the direction guys. But Randy
was just special man. It was it was always a
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task like I played well against to and those bigger guys.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But Randy Nah, Randy's underrated.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
It's it's funny because my son I coached my son's
flag football team and we're champions once again, which was nice.
But it's funny that you say that. But these kids
play a game called moss and it's like he is
somewhat underrated, but he is also like kind of the
prototype when we talk about a receiver. Everyone's the way
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that we years ago would compare people to. Rice Mosta
is the guy that everyone young kids compare.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
To, who can do more damage in the postseason. The
Steelers are the Commanders.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Who I'm a sucker man. It's I want to give
you some real smart, deep analysis. But the Commander's got
a better quarterback, and I think the Marshawn ladder More
acquisition means more. In the NFC, there's like a dearth
of great quarterback play. Have a hard time imagining Russell
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Wilson going past Lamar and Alan and Mahomes. It's easier
for me to see a situation where Daniels pulls off
a few surprise victories in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Jared Golf's having a six game stretch that's the best
we've seen in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But it's weird how he just sort of is there.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And I liken it too, when you get traded and
they throw in draft picks to get you out of town.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think that has stayed with Jared Goff. You got
to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
With the Rams, but you didn't do anything, and it's
almost like Sean McVay got you there, Like, how do
you assess Jared Goff's career?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I mean, it's similar to the questions you were asking earlier,
where it's about perception, like about Lamar. It's the same
sort of thing. Is we have to get over those
biases that we have where someone is drafted is going
to change the way that we feel about him. What
they've done in the past is going to change the
way we feel about him. And I think a lot
of the criticism of Jared Goff, even in his success,
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is valid. Until last year's playoff run, he made the
plays like he was making the plays even when some
people were dropping him. He was making the plays that
we expected. But what I don't want to do is
pretend that he's more important to his team than some
of these other quarterbacks that we're talking about. This is
an offensive line driven team. Like this is Penne Seul
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is the MVP of that team.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's interesting that you say that. Is there a most
must win game of the weekend for you in the NFL?
Like this team has to win this weekend.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
That's a tough one. I mean, it would have been
the Bengals because they want to stay in the hunt.
It comes down to probably the Jets. It's you look
around divisions, you know, Like that's the way that I
think about it is like who's in a division. There
are a lot of teams and divisions that they can
they can survive without winning. The Jets are in a
situation where they can't afford to lose anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But I think they might be that's against the Cardinals. Yeah,
the Cardinals. Why isn't Trey Lance playing for the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (24:58):
My guess is that Trey Lance is very good. And
you remember that draft and how unique the COVID situation
was and where Trey came from in his play seven
man football in high school and a small college. Like
my guess is all the tools, like the Josh Allen
era of quarterbacks where all coaches thought was you needed
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with tools and we can make you into something. This
is one of the casualties. I feel like of the
Josh Allen experiment working out, other coaches thought they could
do it.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, but you have Cooper Rush, who's what thirty one?
You already know what you have. I just thought maybe
the Cowboys give him a chance to play a little bit.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Yeah, I don't think that's a terrible idea unless he's terrible.
That's the thing is, like the players know, and there's
some things you can't get away with. And my guess
is the reason why the forty nine ers came up
off of them despite all of what they put into
it was in part because he's just not very good.
I think the rest of the Cowboys, how do you
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scout and whiff that badly?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's a tough So that's the thing is.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
I've been arguing on the side of and this is
probably a broader conversation about analytics, but I've been arguing
on the side of the Michael Pennocks draft pick despite
the fact that everyone doesn't like it, and I argued
for the Trey Lance draft pick also that that was
the guy that you want to pick in part because
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these moves that look stupid in hindsight, like there are
so many of them, but you have to do some
stupid stuff to kind of crack the code. Like there's
if you follow the traditional status quo, you will be
amongst the pack. And of course the volatility of your
decision goes up, so nine times out of ten, if
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you do something risky, you're gonna be wrong. But if
you sincerely believe that you found some spot in there
that other people haven't figured out, then that's how you
have success. And that's the thing. Like we point to
the running back situation, that's like the current version of
it where everyone's like, you don't pay running backs. The
reason why that rule exists is because some dumb general
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managers will overpay running backs. But it's not a hard
and fast rule, you know, Like I think that absolutes
are for children and dumb people, but smart people look
and say, oh, eight million dollars for Derick Henry. Yeah,
I take that, and I think that if there were
if I had a choice between a shutdown corner or
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an unblockable pass rusher or all pro level running back,
I go for the corner or the pass rusher. But
they don't cost eight million dollars. So if I have
that choice, then you go with the guy who's eight
million dollars. We see Saquon and McCaffrey, Like, these are
unique situations and being comfortable and that's why, like these
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are decisions are often made by coaches that are in
have security or teams have security because these are unique situations.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Well, the Chiefs they cracked the code. They had Alex
Smith and they draft Patrick Mahomes. The forty nine ers
had Alex Smith, they took Colin Kaepernick. Like you, but exactly,
I don't like when you can get a guy and
you don't have to trade up to get the guy.
So when you spend, you want to take a risk
up top, okay, but don't compound it by saying, and
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we're gonna give you, you know, first round picks here.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Then I have a problem with cracking the code.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
And in less in less, Trey Lance was Lamar Jackson.
Like that's the thing is football is a risky ass game.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But you didn't have to go up and get Lamar Jackson.
He fell in the Ravens lap.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
But wouldn't you have gone up and gotten Lamar Jackson
if you could, I guess I get your point. It's
it's a high risk maneuver. I get it, and I
think you're right.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I know people got caught up with Lamar and they go, ah,
he can run, but Kenny throw. And my point is,
and you would know better. As a defensive back, I
need to get from A to B. I don't have
to look. You know, Jim Furix's golf swing is ugly.
He's a Hall of Famer, and that's you know, it
doesn't have to look like Dan Marino. It has to
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act like Dan Marino, and getting it from A to
B is what he's done.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You're right.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
I mean, I don't disagree with you, and I can't
argue with the numbers when it comes to making decisions
like it never really pays off to cobble together picks
and move up like you see Michael Parson's falls of
mind is a great player who falls to you. I
think you're right generally, and I think generally it's more
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advantageous to throw the ball than it is to run
the ball. However, there are situations where you have to
go against the status quo and maybe these decisions. And
I guess from my perspective, the person that I imagine
that I am, and the type of general managerer coach
that I imagine I would be would be one who's
not sitting back hoping the odds work for me. One
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who plays the odds as much as possible until I
see an opportunity, and then I say, ah, this is
my spot. We're going all in because I'm not gonna
go out like I just do what everyone said and
it didn't work out for me. I'd rather be fired
because they could point to the one risky decision I
made and it didn't work out, or then I'm the
greatest coach of all time because I figured out I
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cracked the code.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
He's Dominique Foxworth, the in season football podcast three times
a week, also contributor to ESPN's Cut Up.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Great to talk to you man, Thanks for joining us
on no problem, Thank you, all right, It's Dominique.
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Speaker 2 (31:55):
What dot hot uh?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Which can I see happening more Bengals getting into a
wild card or the Ravens winning the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now Bengals have about sixty percent of that vote. Oh okay,
I'm a little surprised at that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, winning the super Bowl is, yeah, but you're you're
viewed as the second Actually, I.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Can say that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Okay, winning the Super Bowl is difficult to do, true, Right,
I'm gonna have to have a little larger sample size
on that. It looked into Jimmy Jimmerson there. You know what,
maybe we get a little Jimmy Jimmerson on the Ravens
chances to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Right now, the Bengals are trying to figure out why
their record is so terrible when they're playing this. Well, yeah,
and winning the super Bowl is very difficult, thank you,
Thank you, Jimmy. Yeah, and that could be making two
point two seventy five million dollars a year doing you could.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Get a job at ESPN. I might. I might by
just being Jimmy Jimmerson being Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
My sources are telling me the exact same thing that
Adam Schefter's sources told him.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Jamar Chase had a night eleven receptions, two hundred and
sixty four yards, and three touchdowns. He had four hundred
and fifty seven receiving yards in two games against Baltimore
this season, four hundred and fifty seven receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's one of those.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You're the secondary, you're the defensive coordinator, Dean piece, you
know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
There's nothing you could do.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You can't go wow, didn't know that guy was that good.
It's okay, Jamar's gonna get the ball. We got to
make sure he doesn't get the ball that often, and
when he does, he doesn't score touchdowns. But the big
story was the officiating at the end of the game.
Certainly here is Zach Taylor, Bengals head coach.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
We got to find a way to close out these games.
You know, we had our opportunity. We got down there,
went for two and just didn't work out for us.
But this team's going to continue to put us in
good positions and there's going to be a point the
season where that turns and we'll respond the right way.
From this game, we got a one game season next
week against the Chargers before the buye and so we'll
get our bodies right and get ready to go fight them.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, you got Chargers, bye week, Steelers. You got Steelers
twice in the last six or seven games of the season.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Dean Blandino.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
He's doing college and NFL games on Fox, including Colorado,
Texas Tech and the Falcons in the Saints. Former head
of officials for the NFL. You know, we only call
you when somebody's upset about something, So thanks for joining us.
Let's look at that play, that two point conversion. What
do you see and was it called correctly?
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Well, no, it wasn't called correctly. You watch the contact
on JASICKI, I mean he's held. And I went back
and watched the coaches film the All twenty two and
the back judge, who's in the middle of the field
and actually standing on the endline, is responsible for that action.
And the back judge actually reaches first flag, and there's
a mechanic where you see the action, you see the hold,
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and then you find the football and if the ball
is out somewhere else already, then then there's no flag
because the theory is there's no impact on the play
and the back just looked and Burrow was kind of
in the in the process of throwing, and I think
that's why he didn't throw the flag. But it's early
enough where that's clearly a hole. It should have been
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called and then you go to the contact on Burrow.
I mean it's it's forcible contact to the headneck area.
There's no way, there's no way around it. Referee looks
to be in good position, just just either felt it
wasn't enough, didn't see it. But it's a foul and
you know the Bengals should have had another shot at it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But ken officials do they Let's say, somebody sees it
or can you gather can you get yeah, I mean,
it doesn't happen very often, Dean, And I don't know
if it's because of pride, professional pride of hey I
didn't see it, or I mean I didn't see it
that way, or you know, whatever it might be. I
would think, collectively, we have to get this right. Whether
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you got it right or not, we do no.
Speaker 11 (36:04):
Doubt and pride goes out the window. They don't. Nobody
wants the game to be officiated perfectly more than the officials.
And we know perfections not a not a reasonable expectation.
But yeah, they get together. You know the contact on Burrow,
the umpire is the other official and in addition to
the referee, who could see that and if there umpire
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sees it and says hey, yeah, I've got contact to
the headneck area. Okay, great, let's let's drop a flag
or if another official. I think at the goal line,
you're going to have one set of eyes on each
of those receivers, so there's going to be less help
in that action. But yeah, absolutely you want them to
get together. If somebody sees something a different way, okay, But.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Do you see a point where we we start with
the final two minutes where we're there's a you know,
the eye in the sky is able to say, guys,
you miss this, let's clean this up. Do we get
to that point where this is what we're going to do,
and let's say we just start out with the final
two minutes.
Speaker 11 (37:06):
We're heading in that direction. Absolutely. You look at the
couple weeks ago, right, Sam Donold Thursday night, we don't
get the face mask in the end zone, big play safety.
So yeah, we're headed in that direction. I think the
Competition Committee has always taken a more measured approach, and
right now there's some situations when there's a flag down,
replay can assist. I think we're gonna see I don't
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know when, if it's next year, if it's three years,
five years, we're gonna see somebody up there that's going
to say, hey, and the last two minutes is a perfect,
perfect starting place or is it scoring plays as the turnovers?
Because officials aren't perfect. There's one hundred and fifty to
one hundred and fifty five plays a game. Overwhelming number
of decisions are correct, but there's four or five plays
that really affect the outcome, that decide the outcome, and
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you got to be perfect on those plays, and a
lot of them happen in the last two minutes. So yeah,
it's a great starting place, and I think that'll be
an off season discuss with the committee for sure.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I never understood this with the NBA that the star
players would get calls or the benefit of the doubt,
because I always thought they're the stars, they don't need
the benefit of the doubt. It's the guy who's the
ninth man on the bench. Does Mahomes gets, you know,
preferential treatment because he's Patrick Mahomes. Did Brady get preferential
treatment because he was Tom Brady?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
And if so, why?
Speaker 11 (38:24):
I think that's a perception. I really do high profile. Look,
Tom Brady probably the greatest of all time. Patrick Mahomes
on his way there. So there's going to be more eyeballs,
there's going to be more attention, whether they get the
call they don't. But when you look at the numbers,
and I don't know the numbers this year, but whenever
we did that, whenever we did a deep dive, it
(38:47):
wasn't that Tom Brady's or the Peyton Mannings, you know,
or the Patrick Mahomes that were getting all the calls.
It was more even imbalanced. And you know, look, there's
kind of this perception that Joe Burrow doesn't get at
those calls.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
You know.
Speaker 11 (39:01):
I read today that he needs to start arguing more,
he needs to start complaining more. I don't officials don't
the good ones that doesn't affect them. They want to
get it right and it doesn't matter if it's Tom
Brady or if it's a you know, a backup quarterback
that's in the game. So yeah, I think that's more perception.
I don't think that's reality. But look, sometimes perception becomes reality.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, but Brady jawing at you and you're an official,
that doesn't impact.
Speaker 11 (39:27):
It could go one or two ways. Because I've I've
I've heard officials that said, you're not going to get that.
The more you jaw it me, the more I'm gonna
I'm not, you know, like, oh this guy, like all right,
shut up? You know and I and I work with
Tom now and I love him and he's he's a sweetheart.
I can't believe I say, you used to complain a lot.
That's not what I'm getting from you today.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
What current rule do we have to do away with?
H You know, I don't.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
I just I honestly think today and I never would
have said this ten or fifteen years ago. I think
it's what we're talking about. I think it is giving
the officials, giving somebody the opportunity to help correct some
of these mistakes. And I use mistakes, you know. I
think it's just lack of a better term, because the
game is so fast.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Indeed, we keep hearing we need to make them full time,
Like what does being full time? Your eyesight doesn't get better?
And like you missed that call.
Speaker 11 (40:25):
That call happens. That call is missed whether they're full
time or not. And then during this season they are
as full time as anybody else. They spend hours upon
hours upon hours looking at film. You're never going to
prevent that call. You know, you're gonna have situations where
they miss calls. I don't think it's full time. I
think we've gotten to the point where the technology is
so good and it can be seamless, where if you
(40:47):
and I are sitting up there and I go, oh man,
we just missed a hit on the quarterback. Hey guys,
put a flag down. I think that's where we're headed.
I think we got to get there. I think it
has to be limited. You can't. What we don't want
is somebody reofficiate every aspect of everything. You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
True.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's always great to talk to you. One of these
days we'll have you on and uh we'll just you know,
talk about you know, just.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
Say hey, great again of officiating. Love to talk to you, Dean.
How's the family one day?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Congratulations on your Dodgers too. Oh thanks, Jan, It's Dean Blandino.
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